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Happy Dethemberween

Mariko — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:42:33 GMT

Mariko:

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|dethemberween|Toikey TV|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Strong_bad_dream.png|thumb|200px|"He's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman, oh well he'll make your dreams come true..."]]

The true meaning of Decemberween is... the Thnikkaman?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Brundo the Decemberween Yak]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{film|Homsar}}.

'''Places:''' [[The Basement]], [[The Classroom]], [[The Field]], [[The Office]], [[The Brick Wall]], [[Homestar Runner's House]], [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], [[Club Technochocolate]] (dance floor)

'''Date:''' Monday, December 17, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:51

'''Page Title:''' Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf

==Transcript==
''{Front view of the downstairs TV, a Christmas special plays on the TV. The characters appear to be made of felt. We see Brundo as tears fall from his eyes.}''

'''BRUNDO:''' ''{dejected}'' Oh, I lost all my magics.

'''ELF:''' Don't you see? The magic of Decemberween is inside everyone!

''{The TV cuts to a shot of a Sheriff, with Brundo and the Elf visible in the background.}''

'''SHERIFF:''' And so they returned the sword of St. Olaf to its rightful owner, and discovered the true meaning of Decemberween. Buh-buh-buh-buh-bye, kids!

''{Sheriff exits the scene, cut to a blue screen with snowflakes on it, as "The End!" appears on the screen.}''

''{Cut to a view of [[The Couch]], with every main character (except Homsar and Bubs) sitting on or around it.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Can someone please explain again what a mystical sword has to do with Decemberween?

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar sitting on the floor.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You heard that nasty ol' puppet! The magic of Decemberween is inside all of us!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, sitting on the couch with Strong Sad behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, that's not what Decemberween's all about!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Then I suppose ''you're'' gonna to tell us—

''{Cut back to the view of the whole couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll tell you what Decemberween is all about! 
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' ... what Decemberween is all about.

''{Stong Bad begins singing, accompanied by music, doing hand motions as he sings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' It happens each Decemberween though some would say it doesn't. The best thing that you've ever seen, even better than your hot cousin!

''{Music stops.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Better than Debora?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{talking normally}'' Oh, maybe not better than Debora. ''{slower and more sultry}'' Ooh, Debora.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm talking about a magic man, who defies the laws of physics.

'''STRONG BAD:''' He turns Decemberween into DeTHemberween!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Tell us, man, who is it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman, and he'll make your dreams come true. No, there ain't no beatin' that holiday feelin', when he says "Shut up" to you.

'''THE THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, shut up, kid!

'''STRONG BAD:''' When the sun goes down, he creeps into town, and borrows your hedge clippers. And while you're sleeping, safe and sound, he puts blank media in your slippers!

'''COACH Z:''' It was 8-Tracks in my day!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sometimes he'll cold call random kids with discount travel packages!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{talking}'' Las Vegas? For 20 dollars a night? Thanks, Dethemberween Thnikkaman!

'''SHERIFF:''' Yes, he's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman. Flying through the night in an unmarked van. You never know what he'll bring us when you hear those high-pitched singers!

'''SINGERS:''' Here comes the Dethemberween Thnikkaman!

'''STRONG BAD:''' One, two, three!

'''ALL CHARACTERS:''' He's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman, oh, and he'll make your dreams come true!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do-Do-La-Do-Do-Do-Doo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' There ain't no ceilin' on that holiday feelin',

'''ALL CHARACTERS:''' When he says "Shut up" to you!

'''THE THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, shut up! To one and all o' dang y'all!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, just so we're all on the same page here, we are just talking about Bubs with a piece of paper taped to his chest, right? You guys? Bubs? Paper tape? Anybody?

''{With one final note, the words "yeah, shut up! to one and all o' dang y'all!" appear in a night sky, written in stars. The word "back" is written in cursive in the lower left corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on "dang" to play on the Homsar chimes.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Cold calling|Cold calling]] is the practice of making sales calls to potential customers who were not expecting one.

===Remarks===
*This toon points out that not only does Marzipan have a cousin but a female one at that, possibly referencing the fact that, so far, she is the only [[female character]].
*The trees in the scenery of the television show are Little Debbie [http://www.littledebbie.com/products/ChristmasCakes.asp Christmas Tree Cakes].
*In the Easter egg, The Homsar chimes play G, F, E, and D from left to right, which correspond to the tonal 5, 4, 3, and 2 in the key of the toon's song. However, during the toon they play D/F—one chime plays two pitches, somehow—G, A, and B.
*The brass run played while the [[Wikipedia:Horn (instrument)|French horn]] appears on-screen is, at best, near the extreme low end of the instrument's range.
*The Homsar chimes are another instance of [[twin characters]].
*Strong Bad's description of the meaning of Decemberween here defies its meaning in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].
*This marks the first time any character has identified The Thnikkaman as Bubs. It had been a running gag since his first appearance to wonder about his true identity.

===Inside References===
*One of the travel advertisements is for [[Scalding Lake]].
*Strong Bad's lab coat is from [[technology]].
*The Thnikkaman's [[Baloney Sammich Truck|flying bologna van]] is actually the same van that Bubs himself used in [[Weclome Back]].
*Strong Mad is wearing the same sweater as from [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*At one point, The King of Town, Strong Sad, Homestar, and Coach Z all appear from behind Strong Mad, similar to how The Cheat, Homestar, Strong Mad, Bubs, and Coach Z all appear from behind Strong Bad in [[Some Stupid Turkey]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Olaf II of Norway|Saint Olaf]] is a real-life saint after whom towns, colleges, and many other things have been named.
*The TV special at the beginning is a parody of the numerous [[stop motion]] Christmas specials produced by [[Wikipedia:Rankin/Bass|Rankin/Bass]] such as 1964's ''[[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]]''. The sheriff's voice is very similar to that of [[Wikipedia:Burl Ives|Burl Ives]], who voiced the similar-looking Sam the Snowman. Strong Sad's wondering what a mystical sword has to do with Decemberween may be particularly inspired by their final stop motion production, ''[[Wikipedia:The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus|The Life & Adventures of Santa Claus]]'', which confusingly features an epic fantasy battle sequence.
*The Dethemberween Thnikkaman's cry of "Yeah, shut up! To one and all o' dang y'all!" is a parody of Santa's final line in [[Wikipedia:A Visit from St. Nicholas|A Visit from St. Nicholas]]: "Happy Christmas to all and to all a good night!"

==External Links==
*[[HR:dethemberween.html|Watch "Happy Dethemberween"]]
*[[HR:dethemberween.swf|View the Flash file for "Happy Dethemberween"]]
*[[Forum:13151|Forum thread re: Happy Dethemberween]]

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Talk:nightlife

Mariko — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:40:15 GMT

Mariko: /* Soma */

== Homestar's t-shirt ==

Anybody know what Homestar's t-shirt says? I'm sure it's a reference to something, but I don't know what it is, and I can't make out what it says. Also, I tried moving his bathrobe by decompiling the Flash file, but the robe and the t-shirt are the same graphic. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:See shape 501. Hotrod, it seems. No idea if it's a real shirt. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Trey, what does homestar look like under there without being pixelly? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:::OF: Ooh, nice work! That means it's a reference to [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Ysm&q=roddy+piper&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Rowdy Roddy Piper]! :D DeFender: Hmm, I forgot to check... ''{gives DF a funny look}'' {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badia? ==

When people mention Strong Badia in their emails, Strong Bad seems to have stopped bothering to either a) actually assume they mean Strong Badia, and set the email there or b) correct them. I think this is the first time he goes ahead and assumes "Strong Badia" means "Free Country USA". Worth noting? {{User:Tim333}}
:No, he does it all the time. This is not the first. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::When has he done it before? "local news" is set in strong badia. In "keep cool" there's a deliberate fourth wall break explaining the error. "unnatural" is set (at least at the start) in Strong Badia. In "mini-golf" he says "Strong Badia doesn't have a place of its own..." I could go on, but I can't think of a single time he's simply ignored the mention of Strong Badia. {{User:Tim333}}

Technically this time he didn't quite ignore it, the FIRST place he shows is IN Strong Badia. Strong Badia has that hill. Then he says "but when it comes to good clubs...." like he's finished answering the actual e-mail and has moved on to other non-StrongBadian clubs.
..
But seriously those people need to learn that Free Country Usa =/= Strong Badia. {{unsigned|75.72.21.221|00:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:Actually, no, [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]] is not in Strong Badia, since you can see Strong Badia in the ''distance'' from the hill. But seriously, sign your posts. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

==Strong Badia vs. Bubs' Concession Stand==
[[Image:Freecountry silhouette.png|150px]] [[Image:CarrotandKazoo.png|150px]]

We have a strange reversal here. Strong Badia and Bubs' Concession Stand seem to have switched places! How do we mention this? Or do we? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:Probably should just go on [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]]... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:It's also possible that it's just the same, only viewed from the other side... {{unsigned|Capt. Ido Nos|18:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:: But we can clearly see that the stand is facing us in both shots, as well as the relative positions of the fence and the flag. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::It's the same place, the difference is the ELEVATION and RANGE of the image. Carrot and Kazoo hill would be in the middle-right of the black area in the first picture, hence you wouldn't see it in that picture. (Imagine looking at a hill from above - it would appear flat). This of course doesn't change that the two seem to be in the wrong places. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 18:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::And not just the fence and flag, but the tire as well (which IS there in nightlife, if you look closely). It's clear they somehow switched places. Anyway, the wording escapes me on how to phrase it on the inconsistencies page, so I'll let someone else do that. (And please sign your edits, Capt.) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Just had a thought... if Bubs is working nights at Club Technochocolate tending bar, why is the light on at Bubs' Concession Stand??? [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 23:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Those two times couldn't have taken place on the same night as both Strong Sad and Homestar were at the club. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Additionally, isn't is possible that Club Technochocolate is ''in'' the concession stand? We've never seen the outside of it, Bubs works there, and in the Cheat's video, he says he DJ's down ''at Bubs's''[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::They could have been the same night, just not at the same time. In either case, if Bubs' stand was open, where's Bubs? His silhouette should be there.

::::::'''Postulation:''' Club Technochocolate is actually in the Basement of Bubs' stand, as we have seen him descend into at least twice before. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 04:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== disdance ==

Strong Bad dances '''exactly''' like in the email [[disconnected]]. Should we make it in inside references? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 19:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

No, TBC reuse stuff a lot. It's not too surprising. By the way, I rearranged this topic a little bit. Easier on the eyes.-[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 20:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Edit ==
:''The quote "But that's for another e-mail." is a reference to Good Eats, where host Alton Brown constantly implies that a recipe or topic has been or will be discussed on another episode with a similar phrase.''
I don't mind, just I'd like to know a reason. It ''is'' a real reference, I watch the show a great deal, but I'd at least like to know [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 19:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:The phrase "but that's another email" could stem from many common phrases, not least of which is the idiom "but that's another story". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so very common then, thas cool. At least it was a good reason. I've seen some edits removed when the reason wasn't very clear, thats why I posted this.[[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 19:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Stinkoblade raises a good point here. A hasty perusal of the pages in the HRWiki Policy category didn't turn up anything on this point, but it would seem to me that it's a little "brusque" to remove anything from a page without a few words of explanation in the edit comment. It does happen a lot in the heat of the moment. Newbies learn faster when you repeatedly point them to such well-trod pages as [[HRWiki:Standards]] and [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines]], and everyone's favorite [[HRWiki:Glossary#TTATOT]]. On the other hand, implying that their contribution wasn't even worth the extra twenty seconds to explain why it wasn't worth an extra twenty seconds has got to be frustrating. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Soma ==

Is it worth noting anything about Soma (''Brave New World'', etc.)? It's not exactly relevant, given it's just a strange pronunciation, but perhaps it's worthy of a mention.

* When I saw it, I thought more of Soma as in the one [[Wikipedia:South of Market, San Francisco, California|in San Francisco]], which has a lot of bars and nightlife... [[User:Criacow|Criacow]] 05:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think this is a reference to anything: I think it's just a corruption name signed by the sender. There's nothing to link this to ''Brave New World'' at all, and I don't know that the SF reference is too strong, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If we're shooting for wild stretches, maybe it's a reference to Soma Cruz, the main character from Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow. After all, Strong Bad used it as a name, and the Castlevania games are definitely about "the night"! ...only, no. It's not. Because there's no reason for it to be. Because it makes no sense in context. And because, as I said, it's a ridiculous stretch and a coincidence that ends beyond name. Not *everything* is a reference... -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Soma's also a japanese last name (see all the main characters if Fruits Basket, for example) and a common japanese place name, the cell body of the [[wikipedia:soma (biology)|neuron]], a [[wikipedia:soma|ritual drink]], and [[wikipedia:soma (disambiguation)|lots of other stuff]]. So, there's your "other reference." TTATOT, yet? =3 -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 07:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I think it's a reference to Sora, from [[Wikipedia:Kingdom Hearts (series)|Kingdom Hearts]]. Strong Bad probably saw "Somekindaguy" and wanted to pronounce the first part similar to "Sora", and "Soma" was the best he could do. I'll go add the reference. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Honestly, I have to agree with our anonymous idea poster. I didn't think of the reference at first, but when the lyrics for Smart Drinks came out, I began thinking. The song is rather hypnotic and subliminally suggestive, which makes the Brave New World reference seem much more plausible.
::::::On the other hand, TBC don't strike me as the kind of guys to put a random reference to a classic sci-fi novel in one of the cartoons. Classic other things, yes. But not sci-fi novels. Even if it's unlikely, though, must we really be so hard on poor Anonny? --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Brave New World was the first thing that I thought of, particularly due to the hypnotic happiness induced by the drugs. Although soma was originally, I believe, a type of hypnotic drink from the Indus river. And Brave New World isn't really a sci-fi novel, but rather a dystopian one. [[User:Mariko|Mariko]] 18:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== A scandal every week ==

Removed from the Remarks section, but interesting enough for the Talk page:
* Strong Bad's email song is rhythmically identical to the one from [[dragon]] ("Here I go once again with the email...").
Check it out. It's probably unintentional, but it's almost a perfect match. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

: It's not *that* close. Here's a comparison between the two:
http://www.alextemplemusic.com/sbemailsongs.jpg

:(Note that Strong Bad swings the eighth notes, so it comes out less stiff than what I wrote down. Still, this should be pretty accurate.)
-invisible_map

: I felt it was very similar in both rhythm and tone (especially the slight rise at "SCAN-dal") to the chorus of the song "Give It Away" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, from their Blood Sugar Sex Magik album, which is why I originally put it there. Could anyone who happens to know that song confirm/deny this? I could be wrong :P - [[User:Stele|Stele]] 09:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::It does bear a similarity to that song, as well as others. It's [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

Can anyone make out what the lyrics are to the song playing in Club Technochocolate? It sounds like "soft drink" or something...
:I was wondering this too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:It sounds like 'soft driiink..... seize a soft driink....'but i cant tell what the low part is. Sublimimal(dont know how to spell this) messaging?--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 20:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I imagine they'll put it up as a QotW later, but for now my Rorschach answer is "Palm trees. See the palm trees." --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Salt Dream. She's a salt dream. -Alex H.
::Had an anony update the page saying that it's "sloshy". I removed it. I feel dumb that I typed "other people here other lyrics" since I obviously meant "hear" .. sigh .. well, I have no idea what they're singing. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::: When I first heard it, I thought it sounded like Coach Z's impersonation of the Geddup Noise... I ''know'' it's not that, but it's making me think it's going "Reeeerrr, reeeeerr!" I honestly can't hear anything legible (??) in that garglemesh either. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 02:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Intelligible? Yeah, me either. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Reminded me of Homestar's "Party! Pizza party!" song from the tune of it, but those clearly aren't the lyrics. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 16:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm. It's kind of weird how so many people heard different things. It sounded like "Slushy, she's a slushy." To me [[User:Biscuithead1293|Biscuithead1293]] 22:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:My guess was "Star scream- hear the star scream." -James E.
::I heard "Brother in a jar" no, wait.... (actually, to me it was just unintelligible, so I can't help) [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "Haldo, Happy T, Tasteball." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Wow! That's a lot of references! That's gotta be what it is. I'll go add it to Inside Refs right now! -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:58, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I hope YK isn't serious... It almost looks like TBC heard our confusion. Check out the new QotW. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:Of course he's not serious. And TBC do that all the time. Almost scary how they do that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Heh, yeah. I was just playing along with DeFender (see the edit summaries for our two odd comments here). I actually fully expected to see this song make it as a Quote of the Week, though. It's in the background, there's confusion over it, and it's a song. Perfect Quote of the Week material. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Has anyone noticed that, nine out of ten, when there's a line that there's confusion about, it gets QotW'd? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 23:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)'
:::Yes, it happens with eerie frequency. They've also used [[Sketchbook]] captions to answer questions, too. At least once. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:i think it should be pointed out now that the music has been posted as the QotW that the music in the email isn't exactly the same, namely that the singers move between lines differently, and the second singer says "don't have another round" instead of just "don't", so the transcript should probably reflect that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 15:57, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nope, you're wrong. ^_^ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::About what? the fact that they sing the lines in the different order, or that the transcript should reflect that? just saying i'm wrong just pisses me off. give a reason. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 19:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC):
::::The robots just sing "don't". [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::DorianGray, when have they used the sketchbook? Just curious. -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 20:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Bozar's first line in [[best thing]] was a mystery until the sketchbook captioned "riddle me twice, limolosers" was released. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::...which, unfortunately, it... still doesn't sound like to me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Drive-Thru ==

I kind of thought that including the whale on the fast-food bag really removed a lot of the strangeness from "Drive-Thru," because at least we know now that actual food can be ordered from this "whale," or that there's more of them in FC. {{User:The President/sig}} 21:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe he got takeout. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Drive-Thru Whale ==

Should we include the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] as a charcter?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 21:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Nope, a picture is not an appearance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Chicken Melt ==
I found this under real-world references--
*The "Crispy Chicken Melt" and its spicy variety are a reference to Burger King's Tendercrisp Chicken sandwich.
I thinks this is TTATOT, because every fast food restaurant in existence has some variety of chicken melt. Shall we remove it? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry, my bad. I just thought too quickly without analyzing the situation. {{User:The President/sig}} 22:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I thought it was the Spicy Crispy Chicken Sandwich at Jack in the Box. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I was thinking that it was a reference to the way fast food restaurants keep changing their sandwiches just a bit to make them a different kind of sandwich. Like how Arby's (or maybe it was Jack in the Box) has both a crispy chicken sandwich and a spicy chicken sandwich. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:For the ignorant Aussie: what's a chicken melt, and how is it different from a chicken burger? [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 02:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::See [[Wikipedia:Melt sandwich|Melt sandwich]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks! [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 03:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:It brought KFC to my mind... --[[User:Jordo EX|Jordo EX]] 07:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I thought about the 4th Meal radio ad for Taco Bell where the food is trying to get into a club. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V]] 08:18, 11 December 2007 (CST)
::I thought of the Fourth-Meal ad before i even saw the sbemail and was reading the transcript. If not, it's probably a reference to the fact that tons of Fast Food places have recently been unveiling "New Spicy Chicken Fahita wrap!" "New Crispy Chicken Melt" and all that.-[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 19:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Signoff ==
Is it worth mentioning in the article that Strong Bad has a 'until next time' style message on the end of this email, and that it's done in the style of a radio announcer signing off? (possible inside reference to local news?) -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Bubs's arms! ==

Did anybody notice that Bub's arms were done with shape tweening?! Thats... different. --Mysterious Mysterio.

I totally did. I wasn't sure, but my first thought was that this new, curvier movement was used here for the first time. If it persists it might merit a mention on Bubs's page, but for now I don't know that it's significant enough to include here—but that's just my opinion. —I-don't-sign-these-things-but-Anonymous-Contributor-was-taken McGee

I noticed this as well. Whether or not Bubs's arms have changed for good, I do think it's a striking enough change to warrant a mention in the Remarks section of this email. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 06:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I definitely noticed the difference in the animation of Bubs's arms, too. It's pretty striking, I agree. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 13:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Pwawty Cloughb ==

My edit referencing a previous email concerning pronounciation of "club" was reverted. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=nightlife&diff=prev&oldid=526337 See here.] maybe I need to discuss on here first... [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 04:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:My first inclination is to agree that it's a coincidence, but then I don't know anything about 50 Cent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::My 2 cents: Is it really a unique pronounciation that you can attribute only/first to 50 Cent? Somehow I doubt it. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 04:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::: well, no of course, but The first reference to "da club" or "cloughb" as it is now, was from extra plug, and referenced AGAIN in disconnected, so maybe this is another running gag in the works. [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 19:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's not really much of a gag, though. And it could just as easily be SB's way of pronouncing the word (remember, he does have something of an accent).

== Cinnamon stubble ==

It looks like Homestar has his cinnamon stubble again in this one. In the transcript, it just observes that he's "unshaved." I'm not entirely sure this is accurate, as HSR has never actually, to my knowledge, said that he shaves, and I'm pretty certain that he said he doesn't. I'm too lazy and tired to find the email where this happens, though. Anyways, should the transcript be changed to acknowledge the cinnamon-ness, or should it be pointed out as a running joke in the remarks section? Or is it understood at this point that anytime HSR has stubble that it's cinnamon, and thus it need not be mentioned? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 09:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Add a link to [[cinnamon]] somewhere in, like, remarks or inside refs, and we're all... fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:: I'm not so sure about this "cinnamon" thing anymore, to be honest. [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 19:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Could you clarify what you mean, a little bit? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== My Goof ==
Somebody removed this goof I put on the page:
''In the first dancing scene, Marzipan's mouth is in it's old style.'' Someone also removed my image of Marzi's mouth. Can we discuss this first? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:As I said when I removed it: "See [[Marzipan Evolution]]; her old mouth is used from time to time, so we can't assume it's a goof." {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::But under Remarks in [[Fall Float Parade]], it mentions Marzipan's old mouth. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Name and place ==

I cannot find evidence of a Josh, Colorado, but the sender would have written two names for himself if Josh is his name. Does anyone thinks they has the solution? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:I think "Somekindaguy" is somehow his closing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

*I agree with the last remark. Some people just don't include a last name, and if i were to use a weird word and then name my town as "Josh", i'd probably notice that it looks like Josh is my name and make a bracketed remark, à la Jody (not a girl). —Jody (Bulldozer)

== Eye goof ==
Can someone check on this: I thought I noticed some weirdness going on with SB's eyes when he walks up to SM. Like, the sizes aren't the same. Maybe I'm making it up, but I know that kinda thing has happened before. Speaking of which, does anyone know what would cause it? {{unsigned|DAGRON|15:12, 12 December 2007}}
:The glare on Strong Bad's left eye just looks a little lower and to the center than normal, maybe just because of the perspective. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 19:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sleepwalking Explanation ==
Ummm....K. Why come there is an explanation for sleepwalking? I mean really? ''Really''? Hmph-[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 20:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:An Important Rap Song

Mariko — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:36:17 GMT

Mariko: /* Grandmaster Flash */

==MP3==
Someone post a mp3 of the song LOL i laughed so hard

:Here you go: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/songs/Too%20Many%20Knives.mp3] {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Song lyrics ==

Since this is a song, I think the transcript should show the lyrics in lyric style, like they've been done on other pages. How is that done, exactly? And how do we handle the visuals separately from the lyrics? (Or do we?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... I'd say do the lyrics like:

Poo-ha ha ha ha

Poo ha ha ha ha ha ha

Or however it goes, and then

Poo-ha ha ha ha

''{Cut to Bluebry's house}''

Poo ha ha ha ha ha ha

You know, something like that maybe. But, there's probably some standard I'm overlooking. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
: For most songs, we write them like this:

Well you're a rich kid, living in the suburbs 
and there's not a whole lot to do. 
You're strolling to the kitchen and what do you find? 
A bunch of knives cold staring at you.

: And the visuals are separate. That's really how this one should have been transcribed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which I've just done... I agree, it does read a lot easier that way. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Humans! Ahhh! ==

Should we mention that this is the first time the Brothers Chaps animated a human? This is the first time we get to see Mike's skill as a real life artist! (ha ha ha.) --[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 23:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:We see his real life skillz all the time! Anyway, don't forget [[best thing]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... well... It sorta counts. But that was supposed to be done in a different style, like some other guy drew it. And this is more realistic. (again, ha ha ha.)--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 00:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget [[for kids]]. That one was fairly realistic. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 00:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think this is the first. Remember the guy from the Senor Cardgage commercials? The middle aged guy? And remember the girl from the PBTC segment in Strong Badathon? [[User:Spyrox6|Spyrox6]] 00:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I think this is worth a mention, in that it's the first time a musician-type guy has been animated (outside of TGS). All the other guys have been live-action: Limozeen, Tarantula... I will admit that Limozeen was animated in [[best thing]], but that was the point and the "real" Limozeen was still live action. I'm pretty sure that Crack is the first in this category to have his "real" version animated. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 01:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:But how do you know this ''was'' the "real" version of Crack Stuntman? Maybe it was an animated rap video. : ) [[User:65.26.154.192|65.26.154.192]] 01:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, this is the first time TBC animated an ''actual'' human. best thing had cartoons in it. This is fairly realistic. And I'm pretty sure the real Crack Stuntman stood up in this episode. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 01:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Regardless of whatever sort of convoluted way you guys make this a breakthrough, I don't think it deserves a mention on the page. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it does. It really is the first time a human has been animated. Oh well, whatever -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 02:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Excluding Limozeen, Balding Man, the Videlectrix Guy, Don Knotts, Teen Girl Squad, or Kid Speedy... some more than others. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::When I first saw it, I thought it was notable, but now I agree with Joshua. It's like an internal TTATOT.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:Can we call it the first realistic 3-D animation of a human? TGS had a 3D episode, but it was stick figure 3D. {{User:Csours/sig}} 11:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::In what way are either 3D? - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 11:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The animation on Crack Stuntman isn't really much more realistic than Limozeen-in-space... the only remotely 3D part of Crack's animation was him nodding his head in the "LOUD BASS" bit, and that was done with the same techniques they've done for years to make Strong Bad's head turn from side to side... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::TBC do humans pretty often. Crack Stuntman was probably meant to be a cartoon, like Limozeen and TGS. Not really notable. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 12:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's the first human that isn't based on one of the Chaps, and isn't the guy from the Senor Mortgage commercial. I always forget to sign my things. --[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 15:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Not that this is likely to settle anything, but it may be notable for the discussion that Crack Stuntman is animated in the Cheat Commandos style- fixed thickness lines, grainy bitmap backgrounds, etc. So it's almost certain that Crack was intended to be a cartoon (assuming that Cheat Commandos is a cartoon in the HR universe) rather than a "real" person like the central Homestar crew. --[[User:Fiasco|Fiasco]] 17:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:the assumption that crack stuntman is a 'real' human is made because he claims to be the 'voice' of gunshaver. fictional cartoons are usually voiced by 'real' people.  {{User:Csours/sig}} 21:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Well, of course Crack is a 'real' person. I'm just saying the depiction of him in the video is meant to be a toon. Consider that in the '80s, Cheat Commandos' biggest inspiration, G.I. Joe, featured professional wrestler Sgt. Slaughter as a cartoon character and as a live action host. And Crack Stuntman looks like Duke. And... and... well, I'm not sure. But I can taste the parallel. Can you taste the parallel? --[[User:Fiasco|Fiasco]] 18:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I am convinced. I withdraw my arguments and categorize this as "it sounded good in my head." I do still think this is the "real" Crack Stuntman, by which I mean the only version we'll ever see. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 11:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wait, the Videlectrix Guy, Don Knotts, Teen Girl Squad and Kid Speedy are humans? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 05:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
::I'd like to take this moment to say that Strong Mad (even though he has no neck) is about as "human" as Crack [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 04:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
:HOLY CRAP!! I relized I was wrong a long time ago, and was going to post it, but I kept forgetting. I didn't relize it would be such a big topic! Sorry about all this. --[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 00:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC), the no0b who started it all. :(

== Just Wonderin' ==

About what time did this toon come out, eastern time? [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]] 00:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I watched it shortly after 6:30 PM, and the first edits here are about then. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== First mention ==
I noticed something. If the "Poo-ha-he-ha-he" is supposed to be Crack Stuntman laughing to the word "Poo", then wouldn't that be the first mention of the word "Poo" (aside from the Poopsmith)? All I remember is everyone either saying "Crap" or "Whatzit". [[User:Spyrox6|Spyrox6]] 01:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:"Poo-ha-hoo-ha-hoo" (or whatever) is just him imitating the sound of drums, not laughing at the word poo.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 04:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Im laughing at it. I think its making fun of fake white rappers that try too hard, getting the words wrong. {{User:Csours/sig}} 11:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I thought he was imitating record-scratching. This is implied by the shot of Crack Stuntman's arm scratching a record, seen just before "Holler for a dollar". Although you weren't the only one who was laughing. :) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Beats ==

Doesn't this sound sort of like that rap (I think it's Puff Daddy or P.Diddy or whatever) Losing My Head? Or is it just me?--[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 01:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Heh, I can't imagine any two raps sounding the same :P -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 02:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the first section, the "2 Many Knives" bit is cribbed from "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash - compare "Kids don't play wit' 2 many knives" with "Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge"

==Break==

The way he says "break" sounds like a specific Cheat Commandos cartoon. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, it could be in [[Let us give TANKS!]], when Gunhaver says "Thanksgiving break." I'm sure this is a complete and utter coincidence, though.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 12:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::It would be fair enough, really, since Gunhaver is voiced by Crack Stuntman.. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Cheap Commandos? ==

When Crack is introducing himself, it also sounds like he says "Cheap" (Or Chief) Commandos.
Yes/No/Maybe? --[[User:Jrgilby|Jrgilby]] 02:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe. It's hard to tell. I'll wait for confirmation from someone on that one. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 19:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "cheap" but only once I had seen this, definitely not "chief" though [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 22:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

==Email Styles==
I really think the line "Kidz don't play wit' 2 many knives, c'mon, c'mon" sounds almost identical to Strong Bad's "Can you see that I've got e-mail styles, c'mon, c'mon" from [[senior prom]]. Somebody agree with me on this one!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 04:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I was just thinking that, but it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 09:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. It does sound very similar. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Clout? ==

Whassa clout mean? D'AAAAAAAAMM A CODFISH!
:http://m-w.com/dictionary/clout – see definition 4 in particular. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:It means influence. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:Unrelated to homestar, had I not read this article, I would have missed a government test question dealing with Russia's "clout" on the world stage. So thanks.

==Arthur==

The animation of the pictures on the dollar bills is similar to the intro of Arthur. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzuQIgIQqk] (at 0:13). [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

==King of the Hill==

Crack Stuntman resembles the characters from King of the Hill. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Both King of the Hill and Crack Stuntman are drawn in "realistic style" with black lines and no shading, but that's the only thing they share. Also, there's no thematic reason why TBC would make a King of the Hill reference in a kid's public service announcement parody. Not a reference. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 19:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

not really... KOTH characters are all ugly, while Crack is arguably sexy. ''This message was left unsigned by [[71.104.226.62]]''

Holy crap... Who said that? {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}}

[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:King_of_the_Hill_alley.jpg]] [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:AnImportantRapSong.PNG]] I'm not a registered user, so I can't post screenshots. Just compare these two. Not the same at all. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 19:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
==Blubry==

If I remember right, I think that a user worked on this transcript. -{{User:Viklas/sig}} 11:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Not exactly a politician ==

Rather than get into revision war, I figured I'd just take this straight here. One Fun Fact caught my attention on this article:

*This toon is a parody of various [[Wikipedia:Public service announcement|public service announcements]] in which prominent media figures (celebrities, politicians, etc.) attempt to give advice to children in the form of catchy songs, rap, etc. Common examples include campaigns against smoking and drug use.

If anything I'd say that this is ''much'' more along the lines of the public service announcements at the end of Saturday morning cartoon shows (such as G.I. Joe and Captain Planet) than political announcements. I think the fact is terribly misleading as it stands now. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 20:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, because it showed the very end of a Cheat Commandos episode, followed by the rap. Come to think of it, it did kinda remind me of those Captain Planet-type announcements.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 20:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Saturday Morning Cartoon fact. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto. The cartoon fact. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think that makes sense too: how does this version sound? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>This toon is a parody of various [[Wikipedia:Public service announcement|public service announcements]] at the end of cartoon shows (such as ''[[Wikipedia:G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (TV series)|G.I. Joe]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Captain Planet and the Planeteers|Captain Planet]]'') that attempt to give advice to children in the form of catchy songs, rap, etc. Common examples include campaigns against smoking and drug use.</blockquote>

I don't think that in this case it is specifically one or the other. I certainly don't remember captain planet or G.I. Joe rapping or singing. I seem to remember Paula Abdul singing. I don't remember any rapping about safety on TV in general. Rather, this seems to be a mismash of Public Service Announcements, After School Specials, end of show safety announcements, and even In-Class learning tools. I can't think of a particularly short way of summarizing this, but I think it does the toon injustice to refer to it as a direct parody of any of these.

::Well, I went ahead and changed it, per this discussion. If there are any major disagreements, we could always [[STUFF]] this one. Although it seems as though we're in reasonable tandem, so that probably won't be necessary. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 04:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The revision sorta killed the joke to me. --{{User:Ang the Ephemeral/sig}} 06:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, when I wrote that original fun fact, the politician reference I had in mind was Arnold Schwarzenegger, then Chairman for Bush Sr.'s position of President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports (1990-93). He and other political figures would occasionally appear on these Saturday morning PSAs saying things like "Hi, I'm (politician), here to remind you to just say No to drugs" and similar messages. They basically would try to serve as role models to children. They weren't allowed to campaign politically in these PSAs, though, and to my knowledge they still aren't. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

::Wouldn't this fact be better in the Real World References rather than the Explanations section? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 04:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Delay ==

:Did anyone else notice that the new stuff bubble didn't appear for this toon until today (the 26th)? --[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 00:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Incorrect Location!? ==

In the locations section, it lists Blue Laser Cottage. I assume this means that Blue Laser is supposedly in the cottage. However, The Commander and Minions appear to be in the Cheat Commandos HQ, as evidenced by Gunhaver's picture on the wall. This same background was used for the CC HQ in [[Let us give TANKS!]], when Gunhaver was ''staying behind'' at the base. Also, the Blue Laser Cottage was 'splown up. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 04:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

:Naw. Compare the kitchens shown in Tanks and Rap Song. They're obviously the same room.{{User:Bluebry/sig}} 04:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, okay. I got you now. I think when I first looked at it, Reynold's Parent's House was also there, so I thought it meant that Blue Laser Cottage is where Blue Laser and his minions were. In that case, is it notable that Blue Laser is in the Cheat Commandos HQ? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Possible Real World Reference ==

The lines "Meet a bunch of kids from Alabama/ beach volleyball slamma jamma!" may be a reference to a popular cheer for the Crimson Tide. (The Crimson Tide are the football team for the University of Alabama, and the cheer itself goes "Ramma jamma yella hamma, give 'em Hell, Alabama!") Crack's mispronunciation of certain things might explain why it's "slamma jamma" instead of "ramma jamma," but I also don't think the odds are very good that TBC would be familiar with that cheer so it may just be coincidence.

Just puttin' it out there.
:I think they were just rhyming things with "Alabama". {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 12:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Grandmaster Flash ==

I was wondering if anyone else noted the similarities to Grandmaster Flash's classic of rap, "The Message," particularly the way the line "Kids, don't play with too many knives," relates to the refrain "Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge." Dig:

[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/The_Message.ogg OGG Sample]

(Or perhaps you have to be of a certain age?)

Wonder if this merits mentioning in the article?

:I just watched this cartoon and the very first thing I thought of was that Grandmaster Flash tune...especially that Poo ha ha ha part.
:(and yes, perhaps you do have to be of a certain age) [[User:Ceilidthbear|Ceilidthbear]] 14:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

::That's what I thought of, too. And nah, you don't have to be of a certain age--I'm eighteen, and I like Grandmaster Flash and some of the earlier rap (not a big fan of most of the stuff today, though). I'm not sure if it's reference-worthy, but it certainly sounds a lot like "The Message." [[User:Mariko|Mariko]] 18:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reversion Comment ==

There's a comment under "Goofs" stating that the second Pistols for Pandas visor is just a reversion of the first. However, I feel that this was more of an intended effect than a goof that TBC missed. Does it really belong there?

:It's a fuzzy area when you're talking about music videos, but since Crack is wearing both visors at the same time and they're not completely symmetrical on his head (ie. intentionally mirrored), I think it's more likely that he was just supposed to be wearing two identical visors and the cheap way to get the second one there was just to flip it horizontally.
:Keep in mind that there are other precedents for this sort of thing happening, too - [[Let us give TANKS!]] has a scene where one of the Blue Laser Minions has a fork stuck in one eye, but when he turns to face the other direction, the fork switches eyes. This is again due to the horizontal flip.
:That said, this seems like a common enough occurrence that we can validly debate about why it keeps happening - are TBC consciously doing the flip, hoping nobody will notice? Are they doing it to make fun of similar animation goofs elsewhere? Are they not aware of the goofs? Do they simply not care? Unfortunately, we don't know what they're thinking, and it's usually a bad idea to speculate in the article. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== Can anyone think of an example where this happened? ==

OK, I offer a preliminary slap in the back of the head to anyone who tries to push this into "breaking the 4th wall" category, but was there ever a cartoon where the voice of the cartoon came out at the end and said "Hi, I'm the voice of such and such?" We mentioned Seargent Slaughter, but there, they just animated a pro-wrestler, and the Spongebob guy does some live action promos...but never...actually acknowledges who he is, he pretends to be a pirate. The idea of a cartoon character's voice stepping forward in person, to a child, seems at first tantamount to Mickey Mouse taking off his head mask in front of kids at Disney World, but somewhere in the back of my head I vaguely remember, "Hi, you might remember me as the voice of such and such," then uses both their voice, and the cartoon voice for the PSA point. Was it the Roger Rabbit guy? Too long here, I know, but can anyone think of an example?
:Perhaps being the voice of "gun-shaver" is Crack's only claim to fame. [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 04:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Poo hahahaha ==

Was that human guy laughing at the word poo? I'm laughing right now!--[[User:74.234.58.172|74.234.58.172]] 13:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, that was me who said that above, I just wasn't logged in.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 13:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:An_Important_Rap_Song#First_mention|above]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 15:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

==Baywatch ref?==
The pink letters scrolling to the left with the beach in the background looks like a ref to baywatch. But I'm not sure. [[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 22:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

==TR-909?==
How sure are you that's a real TR-909 making the beats (see Trivia), for all we know it could be a VST, or samples, or clone...{{unsigned|69.55.193.129|1:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)}}

:Hm, that was added {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=An_Important_Rap_Song&diff=435794&oldid=435793 here}}. You raise a good point, as it could easily be from [[Wikipedia:ReBirth RB-338|ReBirth RB-338]] or something like that (assuming that the sounds are unique to the TR-909). -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Sound Quality ==

OK, so there's been this fact in the [[An Important Rap Song#Remarks|Remarks]] section saying that the sound quality is significantly higher than in most other cartoons on the site. I really think this fact is questionable. Isn't the whole thing subjective? Can different people have differing opinions on the sound quality of this toon? And now someone has adding to it, saying that the character videos of [[The King of Town]] and [[Marzipan]] also have better sound. To be honest, I could not hear any difference at all. This fact should be removed. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

:I agree with you, however, methinks it need be STUFFed. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps there is a technical reason for the claim that the quality is better (like a higher bitrate). Let's ask around about that before sending it to STUFF. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== There's a difference? ==

I don't get out much so I'm kinda curious about something. In the hip-hop lingo, what's the difference between "Fresh" and "Fly"? - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 18:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:There used to be an explanation on this, but it was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=An_Important_Rap_Song&diff=435731&oldid=435729 removed]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::I put it back 'cause it's interesting (on the assumption that it's true; if it's not true, someone please say so). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Well, according to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/ urbandictionary.com], "fresh" means "cool, in style", whilst "fry" means "cool, in style". The joke is they mean the same thing. For example, the TV Show ''The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air'' and The Offspring's ''Pretty Fly (for a White Guy)''. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. I believe that the joke of it is that there is no difference, thus is why he says "And trust me. There is a difference." Simply because he isn't exactly the smartest character on Homstar Runner. -Some person who does not yet have an account.

==Riggity Roll!==

Does anyone else thing Gunhaver changing the cathphrase to "Riggity Roll", possibly be beacuase of Crank Stuntman, who simply forgot then changed it? (After all, he can't remember his charecters name...)
-{{User:HeyMama/sig}}
:He would have had his lines memorized from a script, so I don't think it's possible... but who's Crank Stuntman? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]], 10:03 PM, March 31, 2007 (EST)
::[[Crack Stuntman]] does the voice of [[Gunhaver]] on the Cheat Command-show. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}
:::No, I don't think it's Crack's bad knowledge of the show, and it's the script reason I think so. It seems improbable Crack'd remember it for, what, four toons and suddenly forget it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Not remembering a character's name right could definitely be easy to do, depending on how the voice acting is done. A lot of times, especially with low budget stuff, people are just handed a paper with lines on it to read into the mic. No direction, no being told what you're saying a line in response to, nothing even resembling a script, and no actual dialogue with the other voice actors. Just read an entire episode's worth of lines, one after the other, then go home. Lot of low budget stuff, especially crappy computer games, you can really tell they did it that way, because their inflection will be off. Especially on one-word lines, like "who?" or "what?". Like "I figured out who murdered Joe!" "Who?" (inflected more like "who are you talking about? I don't know anyone named Joe," than the obviously intended "who was it that killed him?")

::::So anyway, a catchphrase, like "rock rock on!" would be said a lot, and the voice actor would probably remember it. But most characters don't say their own name that often. And if everyone's lines are all recorded seperately, and Stuntman never watches the show, he could conceivably have never heard Gunhaver's name actually said out loud, and may not even see it in print that often, if it's not written on his line-sheet. [[User:Arrkhal|Arrkhal]] 06:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::I also don't think it's a flub. You don't memorize lines for an animated show; you read them. Stuntman would have the copy in front of him. The only way a flub makes sense is if he was completely unwilling to record the correct line, and so the producers had no choice but to use the flub, animate his arms in a funny way as he said it, animate the other Commandos' reactions to it, and record Silent Rip's line (which could possibly have been an ad lib if the recording session included more than one voice actor, but still). I think it makes more sense simply to attribute it to Gunhaver, not Stuntman. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::This wouldn't be the first time in the H*R universe that editors have tried to pick up the slack for the characters. In the "first time here?" video homestar's bungled lines show up on screen magically, as though they were deliberately editted in there.
:::::::Plus, in [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]], the cancellation is announced ''during'' the pilot itself by [[Teeg Dougland]], and all the other characters react to his bad news. Since cartoons can't be live action, either the pilot was cancelled during production but was aired anyway, or it's a cartoon about dumb animal characters so illogical crap like this can happen all the time for the purpose of humor. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Plunges? ==

I'm looking at the definition [http://www.webster.com/dictionary/plunges in Webster's], and I can't really see where any of them fit. All of the definitions listed mention plunging ''into'' or ''off of'' something, which is not really the case here. [http://www.webster.com/dictionary/lunges Lunge], on the other hand, seems to fit the situation exactly. I'm curious as to how you're reading these definitions, Bluebry. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 12:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Sneeze? ==

In the popular humor blog [http://www.thesneeze.com The Sneeze] there has been a multi-instalment joke about a conversation the author had with his 4 year-old son. He asks, "Please put your pants on," and the son answers, "Fine. Pickles!" I'm not sure if the opening segment is a reference to this or not.

Other than putting pants back on... meh, I'd say it's a stretch. If BLC said "Fine. Pickles!", then I'd have considered it a reference. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 19:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== Inside References error ==

"Although not explicitly stated as such, the knives that Reynold's brother finds are rather big."
*I dissagree. They are merely in the foreground. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 07:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

:With the background seen outside the frame if you look at the flash or have one of the viewer scripts, you can scale the knives to their appropriate size next to Reynold's brother. They're about 80% of the shown size (on each dimension). Still pretty big, at least the left two are. Of course it's real hard to define 'big' in terms of Cheat sized and shaped beings. [[User:70.146.127.129|70.146.127.129]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

"Bubs foot isn't giant, it's just in the foreground." [[User:KanineKommander|KanineKommander]] 19:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== Summertime? ==

Did anyone else think that the lyrics might have been inspired by/poking fun at The Fresh Prince's [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/w/will+smith/summertime_20146987.html Summertime]? It didn't sound the same, but nevertheless I thought the lyrics seemed sort of modeled after it.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

== The other Crack? ==
I noticed that during the lines:
Well you're a rich kid, living in the suburbs,
and there's not a whole lot to do.
Crack points to his name printed on his shirt on the word "do". Coincidence, or does this PSA have a deeper message? [[User:Arkyopterix|Arkyopterix]] 22:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:Definitely noticed this. Seemed ''extremely'' blatant to me. I mean, "you're a rich kid living in the suburbs and there's not a whole lot to do"? Plus the fact that the ''actual'' message of the song is an extremely non-issue that an ironically placed allusion to a real issue seems somewhat appropriate (and quite funny). Don't really know if it's worth mentioning or anything. [[User:68.223.138.23|68.223.138.23]] 04:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

::Wait, I don't understand. He points to his name. So what? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
:::They think he's referring to crack. Like, the drug. Personally, I think it's a ridiculous notion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
::::It's probably just a stupid coincidence that he seems to point at his name. The rap song isn't about the dangers of drugs, it's about knife safety and spring break. He's just doing finger gestures in a futile attempt at being cool. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Thiiiiis is Crack Stuntman ==

I don't know if it's worth noting or not, but the way "BLAAAAH'm Crack Stuntman" is said is very similar to the way "Thiiiiis is Crack Stuntman" is said in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]]. On the one hand, each character has a particular way of talking, and noting it each time they speak that way seems redundant. On the other hand the dragged out greeting seems to be a gimmick for Crack Stuntman, so should it be noted somewhere? — [[User:moeroris|moeroris]] ([[User talk:moeroris|talk]]) 18:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== Senior Prom email song ==
The rhythm of the line "Kids don't play wit 2 many knives" is very similar to the e-mail song in the easter egg at the end of [[Senior Prom]]. Has anyone else noticed this?
[[User:74.114.133.55|74.114.133.55]] 05:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC) Unregistered User - Shard

== Numbers? ==

The numbers on the dolla (34678234678 and 67834jq8nds respectively) must mean something, right? If they were totally random, why do nine, five, and zero not apear, and why are the numbers always in order? Do they refer to dates (3/4/67, 8/23/46, 6/78 mean anything to anyone?) or possibly a representation of musical notes since it is base eight? Or am I looking too far into this?
:i think the jq and nds are supposed to be capital ( another thing that might need be here )--[[User:72.172.198.130|72.172.198.130]] 13:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::That's already noted in Trivia. As to randomness, randomness does not mean you can't randomly get a string of 5s or not see 9 in a long series of random generations or anything like that. It's ''random'' - anything can happen. Dice have no memory. There may be dates or other numerological references within those numbers, but unless a '''strong''' association can be find, any connectionj proposed will most likely be seen as speculative. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Re: "possibly a representation of musical notes since it is base eight" - Base 8 implies 8 different possibilities within a place. Music offers (depending on how you look at it) 7 or 12, so base 8 can't readily apply to music. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== The Song MP3... ==

I've noticed that the song is a direct link...and I'd really want to download the song, but because the link is in flash, and it isn't in a zip folder, I can't download it. Does anyone have a copy of the song as an MP3 possibly? If so, I'd really appriciate it if you posted a link to a file hosting site (like filesend.net) with the song on it, so people with computers that play mp3 files in their browser can download it.
:That's easy to fix, simply right click the link and choose 'Save Link As...' or something similar, and it'll save as a .mp3. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}
::<s>You can also see [[#MP3|this]] discussion (it contains a link to the mp3). Happy wiki-ing!</s> Nevermind. Listen to TSSG3. He is wise like the owl of night... {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I have parental controls on my pc, so I can't save stuff like that. does anyone have the mp3 uploaded somewhere?
::::hmm, ill upload it to my site. tell ya when!--[[User:72.172.198.130|72.172.198.130]] 12:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::: As I posted in the above topic of mp3s, if you go to "Save Target As..." it saves as mpeg and not mp3. It really would be helpful if someone actually posted an mp3.
::::::You need to tell your browser to save it as an mp3, then it'll work just fine.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Er....how exactly do I do that? And does the fact my default internet is Firefox have to do with it?

== Homestar and not www.homestar? ==

I've noticed the address is <nowiki>http://homestarrunner.com/2manyknives.html</nowiki> when most of the others have a www. at the beginning ( i.e. <nowiki>http://www.homestarrunner.com/lilbrudder.html</nowiki> ) maybe it's just my browser, but plz answer!--[[user:72.172.198.130 12:28|72.172.198.130 12:28]], 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:In many - perhaps most - cases, you don't need to add the "www" part of the address, as internet servers are usually configured to assume that you intend that. You'll find that <nowiki>http://homestarrunner.com/2manyknives.html</nowiki> and <nowiki>http://www.homestarrunner.com/2manyknives.html</nowiki> point to the same document. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::cool thx!--[[User:72.172.198.130|72.172.198.130]] 13:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)