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User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Tue, 31 May 2011 01:37:13 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* The "Bowels" of homestarrunner.com. */

== Hello ==
Umm... Hi. That's pretty much all I have to say. Yep. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}}

Got anything to say? Well, say it [[User_talk:NighttimeDriver50000|here]].

== A Haiku ==
A baby Chapman. 
SBCG4AP. 
No more new sbemails.

Did I seriously just write a haiku? I hope I'm not turning into this guy: [[File:strong sad tuxedo.png]]

== The "Bowels" of homestarrunner.com. ==
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#Click “sb emails” at the bottom.
#Scroll down and click “[[website]].”
#At the end of the email, click “Strong Bad’s Website.”
#Click "Get on in!"
#Scroll down all the way and click “F10” (not the key on your keyboard).
#Click “user profile.”
#Click “None.”
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User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Tue, 31 May 2011 01:34:44 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: My Page!

== Hello ==
Umm... Hi. That's pretty much all I have to say. Yep. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}}

Got anything to say? Well, say it [[User_talk:NighttimeDriver50000|here]].

== A Haiku ==
A baby Chapman. 
SBCG4AP. 
No more new sbemails.

Did I seriously just write a haiku? I hope I'm not turning into this guy: [[File:strong sad tuxedo.png]]

== The "Bowels" of homestarrunner.com. ==
Speaking of that guy, here's the "deepest" part of homestarrunner.com by number of clicks:
#Go to "[[HR:index.html|homestarrunner.com]]".
#Click “sb emails” at the bottom.
#Scroll down and click “[[website]].”
#At the end of the email, click “Strong Bad’s Website.”
#Scroll down all the way and click “F10” (not the function key).
#Click “user profile.”
#Click “None.”
#Click any of the items in the box.
#Congratulations! You have reached the [[HR:sadjournal/wonderyears.html|deepest bowels]] of homestarrunner.com!

Talk:Best Caper Ever

NighttimeDriver50000 — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:23:32 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /**/What is Bubs hinting at?

The doctor and vet explanation - that makes no sense to me. But I'd like to offer someone the opportunity to explain it or clean it up a little. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Tv Time ==

In the T.V. Time Toons Menu preview, there's visible static to the left of the image. --[[Special:Contributions/66.29.169.1|66.29.169.1]] 00:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:Already noted on the toons menu page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Caper Page? ==

Should there be a Caper page now?
References now include [[Best Caper Ever]], [[Caper]] (and subsequent song), [[Ballad of the Sneak]] and [[Dangeresque: Puppet Squad]]. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:[[Capers|Done.]] {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:19, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Sat Phone ==

Should there be an explaination for Satalite Phones (and perhaps the Flare Gun as well?) --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== sketchbook? ==

The image of Homestar being lured onto a Cargo plane looks quite simular to a picture of him from the Sketchbook for August 18th, 2006, http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Sketchbook060818.png . The only difference I can see is that Homestar is facing the other way, has his usual Star in the pic, and his tounge is sticking out. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:There's another similarity: They were both drawn by the same person. As such, they're bound to be similar. Plus, that's a sketch from ''three years ago.'' TBC require the wiki for archiving basically everything they make, they're not exactly the most organized people in the world. I doubt that sketch was fresh in their minds when they made this. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 07:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== No Worky ==

Is this cartoon refusing to load for anyone else? [[Special:Contributions/173.32.221.240|173.32.221.240]] 18:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. Works fine here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

:I was (and as of this morning, still am) unable to view the toon either through the page, or directly accessing the SWF, while using Opera 9.63. It works fine in Internet Explorer 8 though. Your mileage may vary. [[Special:Contributions/72.139.105.130|72.139.105.130]] 03:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

It is now not not working. No idea what the problem was. I blame my horrible internet connection. [[Special:Contributions/173.32.221.240|173.32.221.240]] 06:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Best/Worst X Ever ==
I think the title of this short is a reference to the reoccuring use of "Best/Worst X Ever", and that it should be mentioned on the page. Anyone else agree?
:Already been done. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 06:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Noteworthy? ==

Should it be noted that this is the first appearance of Strong Sad since his "Passing" in Most in the Graveyard? [[Special:Contributions/216.83.96.84|216.83.96.84]] 12:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:No, because characters "die" and come back to life all the time in cartoons. Also, Strong Sad appears in [[Coach Z's 110%]], so your fact is wrong anyway. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Old Design ==

Could Homestar pretending one of his legs is shorter than the other reference his old design? I don't think it's likely, but there might be some here who think it is. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 03:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think it is. Note away! [[Special:Contributions/208.70.52.88|208.70.52.88]] 23:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::Well now, lets not be hasty here. I don't think it's specific enough to merit a fun fact. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 23:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

== Creepy Walrus? ==

Is it just me, or does that walrus on the right look like that creepy guy from those creepy furniture TV commercials? :[[Special:Contributions/68.32.116.46|68.32.116.46]] 08:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Which "creepy furniture TV commericals" are you talking about? Do you mean real-life commericals or fake commericals seen on homestarrunner.com? Either provide a link or elaborate on your comments, because otherwise no one will have any idea what you're talking about. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jubP3t27IQ&feature=related Link Provided]. Sorry, I just assumed this guy's existance was common knowledge. A lot of the comments on this video mention a similarity to Senor Cardgage, so I figured the walrus was of some significance. But I could be wrong.
:Dear lord, that man is terrifying. Until this day, I had no idea that there were people in this world who actually ''are'' Senor Cardgage. But no, I think it's too much of a stretch to be added to the article. It's an obscure commerical originally broadcast in Cleveland, Ohio, so it's unlikely TBC would have seen it, let alone make a clear reference to it. The only thing the man and walrus really have in common is that they either wear glasses or shades, and the man only looks like a walrus because of his mustache. So it's probably just you. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Suddenly Angry? ==

Is that exactly the best way to put it. Bubs is not angry, per se, more so heavily hinting something. Should we change it? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 20:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:I agree that suddenly angry is not the most accurate description. I dunno the best way to put it, though. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.34|132.183.138.34]] 21:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Curved arms not new ==

One remark notes that Strong Bad has new curved arms in this toon. However, I noticed that they have been curved in earlier toons, as well. I thought I'd bring it up here, instead of deleting that fun fact myself. Anyone care to delete the fun fact, or explain why it merits being noted here? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== No star from far away? ==

When it cuts to the view of the screen where Strong Bad and Teh C are watching, is it just me, or is Homestar suddenly missing his star? --[[File:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|18px]] [[User:Bubz|Bubz]] [[File:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|18px]] 20:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it is a very distant view. Not every tiny detail can be expected to be seen from far away. (He's also missing his eyes and buzzer.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::I think the missing star is especially noticeable, and given how Flash elements are typically built (at an average size and then scaled to fit the needs of the toon), I think it's notable that they're not there. Hard to say whether or not it's a goof. I think it's unlikely that they just forgot these elements. They probably figured the elements would be too small (as others have said) and simply didn't bother. Either way, I don't see anything wrong with giving them the benefit of the doubt and listing it in remarks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== What is Bubs hinting at? ==

Does anyone know what Bubs is talking about in the easter egg? {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 21:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:11:09 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Edit of user page

== Hello ==
Umm... Hi. That's pretty much all I have to say. Yep. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}}

Got anything to say? Well, say it [[User_talk:NighttimeDriver50000|here]].

== The "Bowels" of homestarrunner.com. ==
The deepest part of homestarrunner.com by number of clicks:
#Go to "[[HR:index.html|homestarrunner.com]]".
#Click “sb emails” at the bottom.
#Scroll down and click “[[website]].”
#At the end of the email, click “Strong Bad’s Website.”
#Scroll down all the way and click “F10” (not the function key).
#Click “user profile.”
#Click “None.”
#Click any of the items in the box.
#Congratulations! You have reached the [[HR:sadjournal/wonderyears.html|deepest bowels]] of homestarrunner.com!

Talk:coloring

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:11:10 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* And over, and over, and over. Amen. */ add sig

== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just to go back to what J@ said a while ago, we've had a pretty long debate about it here.

Y'Know I think Salty might be on to something I've never seen [[The Cheat]] with his mouth open while talking in fact the only time he had his mouth open was in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (which was creepy). Also that might mean The Cheat only opens his mouth while making [[Powered by The Cheat|powered by the cheat cartoons]] y'know cause there's nobody around.
[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== "College sign in coloring book?" ==
It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion.
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Corna|the long version]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also it's most commonly known as "Rock on!" --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::They're called "the evil fingers" in [[fingers]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::-ahem- SB says ''Tofu'' is made out of baby seals. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, and tofu is made of soy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with PolarBoy, I think that the point is that Marzipan is part of the hippie idea that you can influence people to stop doing things by making them feel guilty about it. Kind of like fur. So, through whatever her logic is, consuming soy is akin to condoning murder, just as meat is. Spreading the feelings of guilt, myan!--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::O. -scuttles away-.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been told by quite a few people that areas of the Amazonian Rainforest are cut down to grow soya, usually from meateaters who want to have a go at vegans making out that soya milk and tofu are worse than dairy. However, the vast majority of soya that is grown is fed to cattle anyway. Could it be a reference to this?
:That sounds... oblique. The simple answer is that it's just playing on "Meat Is Murder", like has been stated at least a couple times here already. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It could be kind of like that person in ''Notting Hill,'' I think...I've only seen the movie once, but she said that the carrots were murdered or something like that because they were "killed" by being taken out of the ground. [[User:BlueStar|BlueStar]] 06:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with IRF and It's dot com on this one. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 20:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's possible that Strong Bad's head is blocking a "NOT" there, and "pressed bunson" is just a type of soy (made-up, of course). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, you can see the full text when SB is entering the frame. Either way, it's no use speculating what a made-up word means unless we find a good reference ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

perhaps its a solidified version of the gas used by bunson burners, you know, the things used for heation stuff for science experiments in schools
:That's spelled [[Wikipedia:Bunsen burner|Bunsen]], named after the [[Wikipedia:Robert Bunsen|chemist]] who invented it the burner. The gas is generally [[Wikipedia:Liquified petroleum gas|LPG]] or [[Wikipedia:Natural gas|natural gas]], incidentally. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunson[[User:67.184.9.80|67.184.9.80]] 21:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Does the DVD Commentary say anything? My guess is that they misspelled it on purpose to see if someone would notice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

google comes up with a answer if you take off the "pressed" part: a slang term for money,
mabe they eat money?

I found something from Yahoo! that said a pressed bunson was a hemorrhoid... --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, 'cause, you know, the jokes in H*R are always rooted in realism [[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I saw the email was the Dudley Do-right movie. In one scene, Dudley compares his suit to the the villain's, to prove that he nemesis' suit was, in fact, dark blue and not black. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think its more of a denial of any badness in the world, which seems to be the new age thing to do. Calling black "blue" would deny the negative connotations connectied to black, an idea much older than American racial issues, and puts a happy idea over the bad idea.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

well what about dermal discoveries? --((some anonymous twit on wheels))

I believe it could be a joke playing on the fact that grays and blacks in color palettes used in picture editing software fall just about under the blue stripe. If you take a screenshot, and paste it into a simple graphics editor, you may see what I mean. I probably shouldn't give you the name of the editor that I used. Just use the "most readily available with the mainstream OS" --((anonymous))

Do you notice that, as soon as Marzipan talks about calling it blue, Homestar appears in silhouette? In shadow, he's colored with what appears to be a dark blue color. Then, as soon as the camera turns to face him, we see StrongBad and Marzipan in silhouette with the same dark blue color. Perhaps it's an inside joke that dark blue works better than what we non-graphic-types would assume black is good for, such as shadowing characters.
-- [[User:Bofko]]

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ssh... it's close enough!
:::What? No, it isn't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::What about [[Thy Dungeonman]]? [[User:Seahen|Seahen]] 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: But it's not just a Homestar gag, Strongbad says it to. I remember there was an e-mail signed "Cat" to which he refered to as catman.
:::::::[[garage sale]]. But it's definitely more a Homestar thing than Strongo Baddo. Homestar's done it at least four times, and Sib's done it, what, once? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::In Strong Badia the Free, SB calls Homsar "floatyman".--[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::This is a reference to the age of consent in Canada, which is 14. There's no doubt about it.
:::::: The age of consent in Canada is 18...
::::::: No, it's 14. Look it up on Wikipedia.
I first tough they where comparing Limozeen to Rush...

:Highly doubt it. TBC choose to stay away from controversial issues like this. Not to mention that referencing real-world events is [[Flashforward_2006_Seattle_-_28_Feb_2006#Pre-animation_Process_-_4:05_p.m.|a type of SBEmail that won't be answered]]. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 00:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, that goes on my list of "Best Quotes of All Time" winners.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

strong bad crashing the seinor prom was a '''flashback'''

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
::Also, in high school, when everyone is babies, Homestar isn't shown as a baby but is seen an adult mother/nanny/whatever, but in this he is kindergarden.

he is in a 2nd kindergarten

Something I noticed: The alphabet above the chalkboard is the Leet-Speak alphabet.

Everyone is a baby in middle school, not high school but it's like I said it's weird that homestar is in preschool, when in old toons he's often shown wearing a graduate cap Andrew911 (forgot to login)

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear '''beans'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Beans''' speak to me too. --[[User:Benn|Benn]] 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I distinctly hear '''bea''m''s''', which makes ''more'' sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"'''Beans''' is heard by me. But it kinda sounds like "carrots" if you listen closely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I hear "Beams", although if I try, I can hear beans. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yep, i hear '''beams'''. Although I can hear '''Lays or Beans?''' if I listen closely. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I definitely hear '''beans'''. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''Beams''' for me. Think about it. He says "Maybe just laser beams/beans." It seems to me if you say "maybe just", you're trying to bring something down to the lowest common denominator (If I may use math terms.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I turned the volume to the max and Strong Bad definitely put an 'n' at the end of "beam," so I think he said "Beans." [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
:It actually sounds like there's both an "m" and an "n" sound in there. It's really hard to tell, but I think I hear more of the "m" sound. Also, notice how Strong Bad says, "Or maybe just laser bea...s". The way he words that statement, with the word "just" and the way he says the b word, leads me to believe that he no longer wanted The Cheat to make red-iculous laser types such as "laser limes", and wanted him to switch back to something more normal and practical, like laser beams. "Laser beans" does not seem to fit the logic of Strong Bad's statement. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...
: It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.
:::I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Best guess... Coach Z Would pronounce it as "Crains" :)

"Crowns" is how crayons is pronounced in Philadelphia PA.

== Goody Marzipan ==

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for [[Wikipedia:goodwife|Goodwife]] meaning a married woman.
:It's currently in [[STUFF]]. Please vote! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Um... what's a <s>Colt?</s> Cult? ==

Umm... HUTTAH! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Umm... What?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Er... a colt is a young male horse, but do you perhaps mean "cult"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Cult|Cult]] would be a good place to start. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== A squeak ==

Does anyone else hear that squeak noise before MArzipan says "No lifeblossom shines brighter than another."

== Transcript Thing ==

I'm 99.5% certain that SB says "crap-crap" when his crayon breaks, not "crudcrap".
:Nah, it's clearly "crud-crap". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "crud-crap" too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Webmaster in 1989 ‽ ==

I can’t believe that nobody has mentioned the fact that a coloring book for a 1989 tour has someone with the role of “Webmaster”. What could it have meant in 1989? Some variant of D&D perhaps? :) [[User:24.32.101.168|24.32.101.168]] 20:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's not? It was for a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It was deleted because the term "web" was actually used in hypertext systems since at least 1988. It might be worth mentioning the fact that the term only became popular with the World Wide Web in the early 90s.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pie-pie comics ==

I hadn't thought of Pie-pie = Popeye. The first thing I thought of was Tintin (pie...tin...). I didn't even know Popeye was a comic, too, and not just a cartoon.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it was Tintin, too! I went to a Monosorri school and most kids would sneek out to the library and read them, gotta love those Belgians--[[User:74.140.182.213|74.140.182.213]] 20:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it meant sci fi comics

== Trogdooor! ==

Okay, the music that plays when Strong Bad starts "melting off" Gary's face is ''clearly'' exactly the same as the music from when he first designed Trogdor. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and put it in the transcript, but if anyone has a problem with that, you know who did it. -- Dragoon5464 (having login problems.) [[User:4.244.36.219|4.244.36.219]] 03:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, goody. ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad refers to Marzipan as Goody Marzipan, the word "Goody" means goodwife, a courtesy title of married women.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)|09:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)|declined|18|6. A proposed revision was also declined, 9–1|coloring}}

== Homestar Going to the Library to read some Pie-Pie Comics? ==

We know about [[Pie|Pies]], but why does Homestar says that he wants to go to the library to read some Pie-Pie comics?

:There's been interesting speculation about various ideas, but basically there's no one thing that sticks out as an obvious reference. Oh, and do this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to let us know who you are. Like I will, right now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Popeye comics? [[User:A The Cheatcake|A The Cheatcake]] 05:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Over and Over ==

Randy Travis's "Forever & Ever Amen" - is it a reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spinal Tap reference ==
I am almost certain the drumming it plays while its showing while he shoots off the names of the colors it came with are a reference to the movie "This is Spinal Tap." A very similar drum beat is played before they perform the song Big Bottom.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ee8IBmK-9MQ

See for yourself.

:I don't think so. DSifferent tempo, different fills, bass follows rather than guitar and vocals; it's not the same at all, other than being drums. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

== Three pages?! ==

About the coloring book in where you can color, the email page says the book has three pages, but I counted 12. Should it be fixed or I'm misunderstanding it? -[[User:200.159.196.35|200.159.196.35]] 03:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Demon of Screamin' ==

It says in real-world references that Larry's "screamin' like a demon" is a reference to Gene Simmons. It seems to me as though it's clearly a reference to Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, who is nicknamed "The Demon of Screamin'." The two instances use the same two words, same rhyme, same everything except the order of the words.
:I live fairly near the Brothers Chaps compared to most viewers- i live in South Carolina, and I don't know the geographical extent of the phrase, but "screamin' like a demon" is a pretty common saying.

== Lakers and Larry Bird ==
Reference to Magic Johnson vs. Larry Bird, perhaps?[[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Tag...? ==
Does anyone think commentary deserves a template, just like stub? Cuz I made one already...
[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]]
:That's something we should discuss on [[Template talk:commentary]], not on some random article's talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== I'm going to make the commentary ==

I'm not home right now, But I'm claiming the {{tl|commentary}} for this page. I just wanted to clarify. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:We don't actually do claiming, Michael. But assuming no one else starts before you get around to it, be my guest. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== And over, and over, and over. Amen. ==

(Yes, I see that Qermaq brought this up already, but that was referring to a popular song, and it was like two years ago.) 
Now, before I continue, let's agree not to stir up a religious storm and get off-topic here, shall we? Good? Good. Now, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=coloring&diff=prev&oldid=621666 this edit] (no offense, Dorian) removed what I think is a valid point without providing much counterargument. As a kid, I went to Catholic church fairly often (mostly for grandparental satisfaction), and I know that after a few years in a church, stuff like that sticks with you. Reciting certain prayers is much like riding a bike; it becomes to the mind a meaningless mantra, more sound than meaningful word, and impossible to forget despite years of non-use. 
Obviously, I don't know that much about TBC's current habits, but being Caucasians in midwest America (where I have lived all my life, and believe I know quite well), I think it quite likely that for at least some time in their childhood they attended Christian church services of some kind. The phrase "and over, and over, and over, Amen" appears in many prayers in many sects of Christianity. 
Perhaps to reinstate the trivia bit and keep everyone happy, we should simply tone down the religious aspect? A better wording might be
<blockquote>Strong Bad's reading of "Andover, MN" as "and over and over and over, M-N" closely resembles many prayers in Christianity, which end "for ever and ever, Amen."</blockquote>
Again, let me state: I believe there is no real religious meaning in this; the phrase and its rhythm are simply a part of the mind, just as [[sloshy]] uses "Christmas lights" on their bass drum without implying their Christianity whatsoever. 
Please, let this fact be put to a vote. Mine is a resounding '''yes'''; whether we regard Christianity as "right," wrong, crazy or the path to eternal bliss, we cannot deny that it is likely the single most powerful cultural force in European history. 
--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 06:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of all, he repeats it thrice, not twice. Second of all, we don't vote here, we discuss. Thirdly, if that's what they were going for, the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was. Fourthly, "and over" getting repeated is funny in its own right. If it were something that wouldn't be funny unless it was a reference to this, i might agree, but this seems (to me at least) to be clearly just be a joke on "Andover" with the "M-N" as an afterthought. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::This is totally a reference to praying, as anyone who was forced to go to church as a kid would know. He even says it in the same way, and for the record, he sounds closer to "Amen" than "M N" (not that there's really much difference between the two). Just to give a little more background - many churches have you repeat [[Wikipedia:The Lord's Prayer| the Lord's Prayer]] '''every single Sunday'''. Anyone who's been through it knows - Strong Bad is deliberately making fun of this by turning the location into something that is instantly recognizable as a [[Wikipedia:Trope_(linguistics)|trope]] sounding like a prayer. He is mocking the mantra-like nature of many commonly spoken prayers. In any case, definitely not the Randy Travis song (besides, the song title ITSELF is a reference to this kind of prayer). I think the wording suggested by Onamuji is fine, however, References would be a better place for it.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 15:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::i disagree. Nebulon, i go to church every Sunday. (not like i'm "forced" to or anything, since there is no such thing...) and I say the Lord's Prayer at least once a day, sometimes more than that. not saying i'm better than you, i'm just saying i'm very familiar with it. but the O sound is too definite to be anything close to the Lord's Prayer. besides, there is only one "and ever" in the Lord's Prayer. I've also heard people include zero "and ever"s. DeFender is right: Strong Bad is just making fun of Andover being spelled "and over". To quote Strong Sad: "I dream of my own death, over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over..." that's the type of use of repetitive "and over" Strong Bad was referencing. not that specific example, but you get my point. and DeFender also brought up a good point when he said, "''the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was.''" whether you pronounce the A like the A in "all" or the A in "way", neither one sounds like the vowel Strong Bad said when he said the M. i didn't actually think about the Lord's Prayer while watching this until i saw this discussion about two months ago (four months after it took place), coincidentally right after i found out about my friend who forgot how to ride a bike after years of non-use. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::A similar argument could have been made in [[highschool]] against "cowichewa" being a reference for 今日は (konnichiwa), a Japanese greeting. I view these two as being rather similar, in that the thing that makes the reference is every bit as much the tone of voice and the rhythm Strong Bad is using as it is the words being used. The similarity is what makes me bust out laughing when I hear "well cowichewa to you too" and "and over and over, Amen." In "highschool", it seems to have been accepted that this kind of reference stands as an "aural allusion" despite there being too much of a "we" sound instead of a "ni" sound. You have to remember, of course many of the things Strong Bad says are deliberately poor imitations of the real thing. Simply having a different vowel sound has not stood in the way of Strong Bad's desire to make it fit before, has it? (especially when there's a punnable e-mail hometown at stake)
::::Also, to respond to your other statement, yes, there is such a thing as being forced to go to church, especially if you're a kid and your parents are making you. Be thankful you are not in that category. For those who were (are?), the "and over and over and over, Amen" part is especially funny if you grow up in an environment of having to listen to other people pray for a really long time and wishing they'd finish :D. Anyway, not everyone has to make the same connection in order for it to be a reference - just a significant enough number that find it funny. I often enjoy reading the "references" stuff for things I'd never thought of before, to see why other people laughed. I hope you don't take the idea of this being a reference as an offense against your belief - it's just Strong Bad having fun with the English language, as he is wont to do.
::::P.S. - do you say "ahh-men", "ey-men" or "uh-men"? The latter pronounciation is what I'm used to, and I guess that could be part of why I make that connection. The other ways of saying it aren't as close to "M.N." as "uh-men" is.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 04:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that "Andover Andover" could be a joke by itself, where "cowichewa" doesn't really make sense if it's not alluding to konnichiwa. (Was that clear?) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 17:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I have a feeling that "Andover, Andover" and the "M-N" (Which I have no doubt is meant to be "Amen") are two different jokes. Either probably would have been made if it were alone. Also, the entire thing just kind of flows. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 21:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remark? ==

I can't beleive this hasn't been brought up yet, but the crayon at the end never really ''touches'' the paper, it rests in Stro Bro's hand. I want to put this in remarks but I'm sure someone will delete it if i don't get some back-up. Who else noticed this? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Above Chalkboard ==

Above the Chalk board where the ABC's or Number line should be there are numbers and symbols which looked at closely resemble the alphabet ie -4 is A, I3 is B, ( is c etc. I was just wondering if that should be put in the description of the classroom? [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
: It's already on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:10:24 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* And over, and over, and over. Amen. */

== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just to go back to what J@ said a while ago, we've had a pretty long debate about it here.

Y'Know I think Salty might be on to something I've never seen [[The Cheat]] with his mouth open while talking in fact the only time he had his mouth open was in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (which was creepy). Also that might mean The Cheat only opens his mouth while making [[Powered by The Cheat|powered by the cheat cartoons]] y'know cause there's nobody around.
[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== "College sign in coloring book?" ==
It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion.
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Corna|the long version]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also it's most commonly known as "Rock on!" --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::They're called "the evil fingers" in [[fingers]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::-ahem- SB says ''Tofu'' is made out of baby seals. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, and tofu is made of soy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with PolarBoy, I think that the point is that Marzipan is part of the hippie idea that you can influence people to stop doing things by making them feel guilty about it. Kind of like fur. So, through whatever her logic is, consuming soy is akin to condoning murder, just as meat is. Spreading the feelings of guilt, myan!--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::O. -scuttles away-.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been told by quite a few people that areas of the Amazonian Rainforest are cut down to grow soya, usually from meateaters who want to have a go at vegans making out that soya milk and tofu are worse than dairy. However, the vast majority of soya that is grown is fed to cattle anyway. Could it be a reference to this?
:That sounds... oblique. The simple answer is that it's just playing on "Meat Is Murder", like has been stated at least a couple times here already. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It could be kind of like that person in ''Notting Hill,'' I think...I've only seen the movie once, but she said that the carrots were murdered or something like that because they were "killed" by being taken out of the ground. [[User:BlueStar|BlueStar]] 06:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with IRF and It's dot com on this one. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 20:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's possible that Strong Bad's head is blocking a "NOT" there, and "pressed bunson" is just a type of soy (made-up, of course). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, you can see the full text when SB is entering the frame. Either way, it's no use speculating what a made-up word means unless we find a good reference ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

perhaps its a solidified version of the gas used by bunson burners, you know, the things used for heation stuff for science experiments in schools
:That's spelled [[Wikipedia:Bunsen burner|Bunsen]], named after the [[Wikipedia:Robert Bunsen|chemist]] who invented it the burner. The gas is generally [[Wikipedia:Liquified petroleum gas|LPG]] or [[Wikipedia:Natural gas|natural gas]], incidentally. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunson[[User:67.184.9.80|67.184.9.80]] 21:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Does the DVD Commentary say anything? My guess is that they misspelled it on purpose to see if someone would notice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

google comes up with a answer if you take off the "pressed" part: a slang term for money,
mabe they eat money?

I found something from Yahoo! that said a pressed bunson was a hemorrhoid... --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, 'cause, you know, the jokes in H*R are always rooted in realism [[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I saw the email was the Dudley Do-right movie. In one scene, Dudley compares his suit to the the villain's, to prove that he nemesis' suit was, in fact, dark blue and not black. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think its more of a denial of any badness in the world, which seems to be the new age thing to do. Calling black "blue" would deny the negative connotations connectied to black, an idea much older than American racial issues, and puts a happy idea over the bad idea.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

well what about dermal discoveries? --((some anonymous twit on wheels))

I believe it could be a joke playing on the fact that grays and blacks in color palettes used in picture editing software fall just about under the blue stripe. If you take a screenshot, and paste it into a simple graphics editor, you may see what I mean. I probably shouldn't give you the name of the editor that I used. Just use the "most readily available with the mainstream OS" --((anonymous))

Do you notice that, as soon as Marzipan talks about calling it blue, Homestar appears in silhouette? In shadow, he's colored with what appears to be a dark blue color. Then, as soon as the camera turns to face him, we see StrongBad and Marzipan in silhouette with the same dark blue color. Perhaps it's an inside joke that dark blue works better than what we non-graphic-types would assume black is good for, such as shadowing characters.
-- [[User:Bofko]]

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ssh... it's close enough!
:::What? No, it isn't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::What about [[Thy Dungeonman]]? [[User:Seahen|Seahen]] 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: But it's not just a Homestar gag, Strongbad says it to. I remember there was an e-mail signed "Cat" to which he refered to as catman.
:::::::[[garage sale]]. But it's definitely more a Homestar thing than Strongo Baddo. Homestar's done it at least four times, and Sib's done it, what, once? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::In Strong Badia the Free, SB calls Homsar "floatyman".--[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::This is a reference to the age of consent in Canada, which is 14. There's no doubt about it.
:::::: The age of consent in Canada is 18...
::::::: No, it's 14. Look it up on Wikipedia.
I first tough they where comparing Limozeen to Rush...

:Highly doubt it. TBC choose to stay away from controversial issues like this. Not to mention that referencing real-world events is [[Flashforward_2006_Seattle_-_28_Feb_2006#Pre-animation_Process_-_4:05_p.m.|a type of SBEmail that won't be answered]]. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 00:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, that goes on my list of "Best Quotes of All Time" winners.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

strong bad crashing the seinor prom was a '''flashback'''

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
::Also, in high school, when everyone is babies, Homestar isn't shown as a baby but is seen an adult mother/nanny/whatever, but in this he is kindergarden.

he is in a 2nd kindergarten

Something I noticed: The alphabet above the chalkboard is the Leet-Speak alphabet.

Everyone is a baby in middle school, not high school but it's like I said it's weird that homestar is in preschool, when in old toons he's often shown wearing a graduate cap Andrew911 (forgot to login)

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear '''beans'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Beans''' speak to me too. --[[User:Benn|Benn]] 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I distinctly hear '''bea''m''s''', which makes ''more'' sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"'''Beans''' is heard by me. But it kinda sounds like "carrots" if you listen closely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I hear "Beams", although if I try, I can hear beans. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yep, i hear '''beams'''. Although I can hear '''Lays or Beans?''' if I listen closely. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I definitely hear '''beans'''. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''Beams''' for me. Think about it. He says "Maybe just laser beams/beans." It seems to me if you say "maybe just", you're trying to bring something down to the lowest common denominator (If I may use math terms.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I turned the volume to the max and Strong Bad definitely put an 'n' at the end of "beam," so I think he said "Beans." [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
:It actually sounds like there's both an "m" and an "n" sound in there. It's really hard to tell, but I think I hear more of the "m" sound. Also, notice how Strong Bad says, "Or maybe just laser bea...s". The way he words that statement, with the word "just" and the way he says the b word, leads me to believe that he no longer wanted The Cheat to make red-iculous laser types such as "laser limes", and wanted him to switch back to something more normal and practical, like laser beams. "Laser beans" does not seem to fit the logic of Strong Bad's statement. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...
: It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.
:::I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Best guess... Coach Z Would pronounce it as "Crains" :)

"Crowns" is how crayons is pronounced in Philadelphia PA.

== Goody Marzipan ==

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for [[Wikipedia:goodwife|Goodwife]] meaning a married woman.
:It's currently in [[STUFF]]. Please vote! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Um... what's a <s>Colt?</s> Cult? ==

Umm... HUTTAH! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Umm... What?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Er... a colt is a young male horse, but do you perhaps mean "cult"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Cult|Cult]] would be a good place to start. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== A squeak ==

Does anyone else hear that squeak noise before MArzipan says "No lifeblossom shines brighter than another."

== Transcript Thing ==

I'm 99.5% certain that SB says "crap-crap" when his crayon breaks, not "crudcrap".
:Nah, it's clearly "crud-crap". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "crud-crap" too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Webmaster in 1989 ‽ ==

I can’t believe that nobody has mentioned the fact that a coloring book for a 1989 tour has someone with the role of “Webmaster”. What could it have meant in 1989? Some variant of D&D perhaps? :) [[User:24.32.101.168|24.32.101.168]] 20:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's not? It was for a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It was deleted because the term "web" was actually used in hypertext systems since at least 1988. It might be worth mentioning the fact that the term only became popular with the World Wide Web in the early 90s.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pie-pie comics ==

I hadn't thought of Pie-pie = Popeye. The first thing I thought of was Tintin (pie...tin...). I didn't even know Popeye was a comic, too, and not just a cartoon.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it was Tintin, too! I went to a Monosorri school and most kids would sneek out to the library and read them, gotta love those Belgians--[[User:74.140.182.213|74.140.182.213]] 20:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it meant sci fi comics

== Trogdooor! ==

Okay, the music that plays when Strong Bad starts "melting off" Gary's face is ''clearly'' exactly the same as the music from when he first designed Trogdor. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and put it in the transcript, but if anyone has a problem with that, you know who did it. -- Dragoon5464 (having login problems.) [[User:4.244.36.219|4.244.36.219]] 03:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, goody. ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad refers to Marzipan as Goody Marzipan, the word "Goody" means goodwife, a courtesy title of married women.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)|09:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)|declined|18|6. A proposed revision was also declined, 9–1|coloring}}

== Homestar Going to the Library to read some Pie-Pie Comics? ==

We know about [[Pie|Pies]], but why does Homestar says that he wants to go to the library to read some Pie-Pie comics?

:There's been interesting speculation about various ideas, but basically there's no one thing that sticks out as an obvious reference. Oh, and do this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to let us know who you are. Like I will, right now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Popeye comics? [[User:A The Cheatcake|A The Cheatcake]] 05:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Over and Over ==

Randy Travis's "Forever & Ever Amen" - is it a reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spinal Tap reference ==
I am almost certain the drumming it plays while its showing while he shoots off the names of the colors it came with are a reference to the movie "This is Spinal Tap." A very similar drum beat is played before they perform the song Big Bottom.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ee8IBmK-9MQ

See for yourself.

:I don't think so. DSifferent tempo, different fills, bass follows rather than guitar and vocals; it's not the same at all, other than being drums. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

== Three pages?! ==

About the coloring book in where you can color, the email page says the book has three pages, but I counted 12. Should it be fixed or I'm misunderstanding it? -[[User:200.159.196.35|200.159.196.35]] 03:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Demon of Screamin' ==

It says in real-world references that Larry's "screamin' like a demon" is a reference to Gene Simmons. It seems to me as though it's clearly a reference to Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, who is nicknamed "The Demon of Screamin'." The two instances use the same two words, same rhyme, same everything except the order of the words.
:I live fairly near the Brothers Chaps compared to most viewers- i live in South Carolina, and I don't know the geographical extent of the phrase, but "screamin' like a demon" is a pretty common saying.

== Lakers and Larry Bird ==
Reference to Magic Johnson vs. Larry Bird, perhaps?[[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Tag...? ==
Does anyone think commentary deserves a template, just like stub? Cuz I made one already...
[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]]
:That's something we should discuss on [[Template talk:commentary]], not on some random article's talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== I'm going to make the commentary ==

I'm not home right now, But I'm claiming the {{tl|commentary}} for this page. I just wanted to clarify. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:We don't actually do claiming, Michael. But assuming no one else starts before you get around to it, be my guest. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== And over, and over, and over. Amen. ==

(Yes, I see that Qermaq brought this up already, but that was referring to a popular song, and it was like two years ago.) 
Now, before I continue, let's agree not to stir up a religious storm and get off-topic here, shall we? Good? Good. Now, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=coloring&diff=prev&oldid=621666 this edit] (no offense, Dorian) removed what I think is a valid point without providing much counterargument. As a kid, I went to Catholic church fairly often (mostly for grandparental satisfaction), and I know that after a few years in a church, stuff like that sticks with you. Reciting certain prayers is much like riding a bike; it becomes to the mind a meaningless mantra, more sound than meaningful word, and impossible to forget despite years of non-use. 
Obviously, I don't know that much about TBC's current habits, but being Caucasians in midwest America (where I have lived all my life, and believe I know quite well), I think it quite likely that for at least some time in their childhood they attended Christian church services of some kind. The phrase "and over, and over, and over, Amen" appears in many prayers in many sects of Christianity. 
Perhaps to reinstate the trivia bit and keep everyone happy, we should simply tone down the religious aspect? A better wording might be
<blockquote>Strong Bad's reading of "Andover, MN" as "and over and over and over, M-N" closely resembles many prayers in Christianity, which end "for ever and ever, Amen."</blockquote>
Again, let me state: I believe there is no real religious meaning in this; the phrase and its rhythm are simply a part of the mind, just as [[sloshy]] uses "Christmas lights" on their bass drum without implying their Christianity whatsoever. 
Please, let this fact be put to a vote. Mine is a resounding '''yes'''; whether we regard Christianity as "right," wrong, crazy or the path to eternal bliss, we cannot deny that it is likely the single most powerful cultural force in European history. 
--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 06:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of all, he repeats it thrice, not twice. Second of all, we don't vote here, we discuss. Thirdly, if that's what they were going for, the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was. Fourthly, "and over" getting repeated is funny in its own right. If it were something that wouldn't be funny unless it was a reference to this, i might agree, but this seems (to me at least) to be clearly just be a joke on "Andover" with the "M-N" as an afterthought. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::This is totally a reference to praying, as anyone who was forced to go to church as a kid would know. He even says it in the same way, and for the record, he sounds closer to "Amen" than "M N" (not that there's really much difference between the two). Just to give a little more background - many churches have you repeat [[Wikipedia:The Lord's Prayer| the Lord's Prayer]] '''every single Sunday'''. Anyone who's been through it knows - Strong Bad is deliberately making fun of this by turning the location into something that is instantly recognizable as a [[Wikipedia:Trope_(linguistics)|trope]] sounding like a prayer. He is mocking the mantra-like nature of many commonly spoken prayers. In any case, definitely not the Randy Travis song (besides, the song title ITSELF is a reference to this kind of prayer). I think the wording suggested by Onamuji is fine, however, References would be a better place for it.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 15:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::i disagree. Nebulon, i go to church every Sunday. (not like i'm "forced" to or anything, since there is no such thing...) and I say the Lord's Prayer at least once a day, sometimes more than that. not saying i'm better than you, i'm just saying i'm very familiar with it. but the O sound is too definite to be anything close to the Lord's Prayer. besides, there is only one "and ever" in the Lord's Prayer. I've also heard people include zero "and ever"s. DeFender is right: Strong Bad is just making fun of Andover being spelled "and over". To quote Strong Sad: "I dream of my own death, over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over..." that's the type of use of repetitive "and over" Strong Bad was referencing. not that specific example, but you get my point. and DeFender also brought up a good point when he said, "''the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was.''" whether you pronounce the A like the A in "all" or the A in "way", neither one sounds like the vowel Strong Bad said when he said the M. i didn't actually think about the Lord's Prayer while watching this until i saw this discussion about two months ago (four months after it took place), coincidentally right after i found out about my friend who forgot how to ride a bike after years of non-use. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::A similar argument could have been made in [[highschool]] against "cowichewa" being a reference for 今日は (konnichiwa), a Japanese greeting. I view these two as being rather similar, in that the thing that makes the reference is every bit as much the tone of voice and the rhythm Strong Bad is using as it is the words being used. The similarity is what makes me bust out laughing when I hear "well cowichewa to you too" and "and over and over, Amen." In "highschool", it seems to have been accepted that this kind of reference stands as an "aural allusion" despite there being too much of a "we" sound instead of a "ni" sound. You have to remember, of course many of the things Strong Bad says are deliberately poor imitations of the real thing. Simply having a different vowel sound has not stood in the way of Strong Bad's desire to make it fit before, has it? (especially when there's a punnable e-mail hometown at stake)
::::Also, to respond to your other statement, yes, there is such a thing as being forced to go to church, especially if you're a kid and your parents are making you. Be thankful you are not in that category. For those who were (are?), the "and over and over and over, Amen" part is especially funny if you grow up in an environment of having to listen to other people pray for a really long time and wishing they'd finish :D. Anyway, not everyone has to make the same connection in order for it to be a reference - just a significant enough number that find it funny. I often enjoy reading the "references" stuff for things I'd never thought of before, to see why other people laughed. I hope you don't take the idea of this being a reference as an offense against your belief - it's just Strong Bad having fun with the English language, as he is wont to do.
::::P.S. - do you say "ahh-men", "ey-men" or "uh-men"? The latter pronounciation is what I'm used to, and I guess that could be part of why I make that connection. The other ways of saying it aren't as close to "M.N." as "uh-men" is.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 04:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that "Andover Andover" could be a joke by itself, where "cowichewa" doesn't really make sense if it's not alluding to konnichiwa. (Was that clear?) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 17:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I have a feeling that "Andover, Andover" and the "M-N" (Which I have no doubt is meant to be "Amen") are two different jokes. Either probably would have been made if it were alone. Also, the entire thing just kind of flows.

== Remark? ==

I can't beleive this hasn't been brought up yet, but the crayon at the end never really ''touches'' the paper, it rests in Stro Bro's hand. I want to put this in remarks but I'm sure someone will delete it if i don't get some back-up. Who else noticed this? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Above Chalkboard ==

Above the Chalk board where the ABC's or Number line should be there are numbers and symbols which looked at closely resemble the alphabet ie -4 is A, I3 is B, ( is c etc. I was just wondering if that should be put in the description of the classroom? [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
: It's already on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:coloring

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:57:15 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Screamin' like a demon personal experience

== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just to go back to what J@ said a while ago, we've had a pretty long debate about it here.

Y'Know I think Salty might be on to something I've never seen [[The Cheat]] with his mouth open while talking in fact the only time he had his mouth open was in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (which was creepy). Also that might mean The Cheat only opens his mouth while making [[Powered by The Cheat|powered by the cheat cartoons]] y'know cause there's nobody around.
[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== "College sign in coloring book?" ==
It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion.
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Corna|the long version]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also it's most commonly known as "Rock on!" --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::They're called "the evil fingers" in [[fingers]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::-ahem- SB says ''Tofu'' is made out of baby seals. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, and tofu is made of soy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with PolarBoy, I think that the point is that Marzipan is part of the hippie idea that you can influence people to stop doing things by making them feel guilty about it. Kind of like fur. So, through whatever her logic is, consuming soy is akin to condoning murder, just as meat is. Spreading the feelings of guilt, myan!--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::O. -scuttles away-.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been told by quite a few people that areas of the Amazonian Rainforest are cut down to grow soya, usually from meateaters who want to have a go at vegans making out that soya milk and tofu are worse than dairy. However, the vast majority of soya that is grown is fed to cattle anyway. Could it be a reference to this?
:That sounds... oblique. The simple answer is that it's just playing on "Meat Is Murder", like has been stated at least a couple times here already. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It could be kind of like that person in ''Notting Hill,'' I think...I've only seen the movie once, but she said that the carrots were murdered or something like that because they were "killed" by being taken out of the ground. [[User:BlueStar|BlueStar]] 06:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with IRF and It's dot com on this one. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 20:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's possible that Strong Bad's head is blocking a "NOT" there, and "pressed bunson" is just a type of soy (made-up, of course). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, you can see the full text when SB is entering the frame. Either way, it's no use speculating what a made-up word means unless we find a good reference ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

perhaps its a solidified version of the gas used by bunson burners, you know, the things used for heation stuff for science experiments in schools
:That's spelled [[Wikipedia:Bunsen burner|Bunsen]], named after the [[Wikipedia:Robert Bunsen|chemist]] who invented it the burner. The gas is generally [[Wikipedia:Liquified petroleum gas|LPG]] or [[Wikipedia:Natural gas|natural gas]], incidentally. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunson[[User:67.184.9.80|67.184.9.80]] 21:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Does the DVD Commentary say anything? My guess is that they misspelled it on purpose to see if someone would notice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

google comes up with a answer if you take off the "pressed" part: a slang term for money,
mabe they eat money?

I found something from Yahoo! that said a pressed bunson was a hemorrhoid... --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, 'cause, you know, the jokes in H*R are always rooted in realism [[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I saw the email was the Dudley Do-right movie. In one scene, Dudley compares his suit to the the villain's, to prove that he nemesis' suit was, in fact, dark blue and not black. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think its more of a denial of any badness in the world, which seems to be the new age thing to do. Calling black "blue" would deny the negative connotations connectied to black, an idea much older than American racial issues, and puts a happy idea over the bad idea.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

well what about dermal discoveries? --((some anonymous twit on wheels))

I believe it could be a joke playing on the fact that grays and blacks in color palettes used in picture editing software fall just about under the blue stripe. If you take a screenshot, and paste it into a simple graphics editor, you may see what I mean. I probably shouldn't give you the name of the editor that I used. Just use the "most readily available with the mainstream OS" --((anonymous))

Do you notice that, as soon as Marzipan talks about calling it blue, Homestar appears in silhouette? In shadow, he's colored with what appears to be a dark blue color. Then, as soon as the camera turns to face him, we see StrongBad and Marzipan in silhouette with the same dark blue color. Perhaps it's an inside joke that dark blue works better than what we non-graphic-types would assume black is good for, such as shadowing characters.
-- [[User:Bofko]]

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ssh... it's close enough!
:::What? No, it isn't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::What about [[Thy Dungeonman]]? [[User:Seahen|Seahen]] 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: But it's not just a Homestar gag, Strongbad says it to. I remember there was an e-mail signed "Cat" to which he refered to as catman.
:::::::[[garage sale]]. But it's definitely more a Homestar thing than Strongo Baddo. Homestar's done it at least four times, and Sib's done it, what, once? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::In Strong Badia the Free, SB calls Homsar "floatyman".--[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::This is a reference to the age of consent in Canada, which is 14. There's no doubt about it.
:::::: The age of consent in Canada is 18...
::::::: No, it's 14. Look it up on Wikipedia.
I first tough they where comparing Limozeen to Rush...

:Highly doubt it. TBC choose to stay away from controversial issues like this. Not to mention that referencing real-world events is [[Flashforward_2006_Seattle_-_28_Feb_2006#Pre-animation_Process_-_4:05_p.m.|a type of SBEmail that won't be answered]]. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 00:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, that goes on my list of "Best Quotes of All Time" winners.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

strong bad crashing the seinor prom was a '''flashback'''

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
::Also, in high school, when everyone is babies, Homestar isn't shown as a baby but is seen an adult mother/nanny/whatever, but in this he is kindergarden.

he is in a 2nd kindergarten

Something I noticed: The alphabet above the chalkboard is the Leet-Speak alphabet.

Everyone is a baby in middle school, not high school but it's like I said it's weird that homestar is in preschool, when in old toons he's often shown wearing a graduate cap Andrew911 (forgot to login)

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear '''beans'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Beans''' speak to me too. --[[User:Benn|Benn]] 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I distinctly hear '''bea''m''s''', which makes ''more'' sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"'''Beans''' is heard by me. But it kinda sounds like "carrots" if you listen closely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I hear "Beams", although if I try, I can hear beans. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yep, i hear '''beams'''. Although I can hear '''Lays or Beans?''' if I listen closely. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I definitely hear '''beans'''. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''Beams''' for me. Think about it. He says "Maybe just laser beams/beans." It seems to me if you say "maybe just", you're trying to bring something down to the lowest common denominator (If I may use math terms.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I turned the volume to the max and Strong Bad definitely put an 'n' at the end of "beam," so I think he said "Beans." [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
:It actually sounds like there's both an "m" and an "n" sound in there. It's really hard to tell, but I think I hear more of the "m" sound. Also, notice how Strong Bad says, "Or maybe just laser bea...s". The way he words that statement, with the word "just" and the way he says the b word, leads me to believe that he no longer wanted The Cheat to make red-iculous laser types such as "laser limes", and wanted him to switch back to something more normal and practical, like laser beams. "Laser beans" does not seem to fit the logic of Strong Bad's statement. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...
: It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.
:::I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Best guess... Coach Z Would pronounce it as "Crains" :)

"Crowns" is how crayons is pronounced in Philadelphia PA.

== Goody Marzipan ==

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for [[Wikipedia:goodwife|Goodwife]] meaning a married woman.
:It's currently in [[STUFF]]. Please vote! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Um... what's a <s>Colt?</s> Cult? ==

Umm... HUTTAH! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Umm... What?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Er... a colt is a young male horse, but do you perhaps mean "cult"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Cult|Cult]] would be a good place to start. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== A squeak ==

Does anyone else hear that squeak noise before MArzipan says "No lifeblossom shines brighter than another."

== Transcript Thing ==

I'm 99.5% certain that SB says "crap-crap" when his crayon breaks, not "crudcrap".
:Nah, it's clearly "crud-crap". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "crud-crap" too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Webmaster in 1989 ‽ ==

I can’t believe that nobody has mentioned the fact that a coloring book for a 1989 tour has someone with the role of “Webmaster”. What could it have meant in 1989? Some variant of D&D perhaps? :) [[User:24.32.101.168|24.32.101.168]] 20:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's not? It was for a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It was deleted because the term "web" was actually used in hypertext systems since at least 1988. It might be worth mentioning the fact that the term only became popular with the World Wide Web in the early 90s.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pie-pie comics ==

I hadn't thought of Pie-pie = Popeye. The first thing I thought of was Tintin (pie...tin...). I didn't even know Popeye was a comic, too, and not just a cartoon.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it was Tintin, too! I went to a Monosorri school and most kids would sneek out to the library and read them, gotta love those Belgians--[[User:74.140.182.213|74.140.182.213]] 20:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it meant sci fi comics

== Trogdooor! ==

Okay, the music that plays when Strong Bad starts "melting off" Gary's face is ''clearly'' exactly the same as the music from when he first designed Trogdor. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and put it in the transcript, but if anyone has a problem with that, you know who did it. -- Dragoon5464 (having login problems.) [[User:4.244.36.219|4.244.36.219]] 03:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, goody. ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad refers to Marzipan as Goody Marzipan, the word "Goody" means goodwife, a courtesy title of married women.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)|09:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)|declined|18|6. A proposed revision was also declined, 9–1|coloring}}

== Homestar Going to the Library to read some Pie-Pie Comics? ==

We know about [[Pie|Pies]], but why does Homestar says that he wants to go to the library to read some Pie-Pie comics?

:There's been interesting speculation about various ideas, but basically there's no one thing that sticks out as an obvious reference. Oh, and do this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to let us know who you are. Like I will, right now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Popeye comics? [[User:A The Cheatcake|A The Cheatcake]] 05:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Over and Over ==

Randy Travis's "Forever & Ever Amen" - is it a reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spinal Tap reference ==
I am almost certain the drumming it plays while its showing while he shoots off the names of the colors it came with are a reference to the movie "This is Spinal Tap." A very similar drum beat is played before they perform the song Big Bottom.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ee8IBmK-9MQ

See for yourself.

:I don't think so. DSifferent tempo, different fills, bass follows rather than guitar and vocals; it's not the same at all, other than being drums. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

== Three pages?! ==

About the coloring book in where you can color, the email page says the book has three pages, but I counted 12. Should it be fixed or I'm misunderstanding it? -[[User:200.159.196.35|200.159.196.35]] 03:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Demon of Screamin' ==

It says in real-world references that Larry's "screamin' like a demon" is a reference to Gene Simmons. It seems to me as though it's clearly a reference to Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, who is nicknamed "The Demon of Screamin'." The two instances use the same two words, same rhyme, same everything except the order of the words.
:I live fairly near the Brothers Chaps compared to most viewers- i live in South Carolina, and I don't know the geographical extent of the phrase, but "screamin' like a demon" is a pretty common saying.

== Lakers and Larry Bird ==
Reference to Magic Johnson vs. Larry Bird, perhaps?[[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Tag...? ==
Does anyone think commentary deserves a template, just like stub? Cuz I made one already...
[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]]
:That's something we should discuss on [[Template talk:commentary]], not on some random article's talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== I'm going to make the commentary ==

I'm not home right now, But I'm claiming the {{tl|commentary}} for this page. I just wanted to clarify. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:We don't actually do claiming, Michael. But assuming no one else starts before you get around to it, be my guest. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== And over, and over, and over. Amen. ==

(Yes, I see that Qermaq brought this up already, but that was referring to a popular song, and it was like two years ago.) 
Now, before I continue, let's agree not to stir up a religious storm and get off-topic here, shall we? Good? Good. Now, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=coloring&diff=prev&oldid=621666 this edit] (no offense, Dorian) removed what I think is a valid point without providing much counterargument. As a kid, I went to Catholic church fairly often (mostly for grandparental satisfaction), and I know that after a few years in a church, stuff like that sticks with you. Reciting certain prayers is much like riding a bike; it becomes to the mind a meaningless mantra, more sound than meaningful word, and impossible to forget despite years of non-use. 
Obviously, I don't know that much about TBC's current habits, but being Caucasians in midwest America (where I have lived all my life, and believe I know quite well), I think it quite likely that for at least some time in their childhood they attended Christian church services of some kind. The phrase "and over, and over, and over, Amen" appears in many prayers in many sects of Christianity. 
Perhaps to reinstate the trivia bit and keep everyone happy, we should simply tone down the religious aspect? A better wording might be
<blockquote>Strong Bad's reading of "Andover, MN" as "and over and over and over, M-N" closely resembles many prayers in Christianity, which end "for ever and ever, Amen."</blockquote>
Again, let me state: I believe there is no real religious meaning in this; the phrase and its rhythm are simply a part of the mind, just as [[sloshy]] uses "Christmas lights" on their bass drum without implying their Christianity whatsoever. 
Please, let this fact be put to a vote. Mine is a resounding '''yes'''; whether we regard Christianity as "right," wrong, crazy or the path to eternal bliss, we cannot deny that it is likely the single most powerful cultural force in European history. 
--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 06:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of all, he repeats it thrice, not twice. Second of all, we don't vote here, we discuss. Thirdly, if that's what they were going for, the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was. Fourthly, "and over" getting repeated is funny in its own right. If it were something that wouldn't be funny unless it was a reference to this, i might agree, but this seems (to me at least) to be clearly just be a joke on "Andover" with the "M-N" as an afterthought. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::This is totally a reference to praying, as anyone who was forced to go to church as a kid would know. He even says it in the same way, and for the record, he sounds closer to "Amen" than "M N" (not that there's really much difference between the two). Just to give a little more background - many churches have you repeat [[Wikipedia:The Lord's Prayer| the Lord's Prayer]] '''every single Sunday'''. Anyone who's been through it knows - Strong Bad is deliberately making fun of this by turning the location into something that is instantly recognizable as a [[Wikipedia:Trope_(linguistics)|trope]] sounding like a prayer. He is mocking the mantra-like nature of many commonly spoken prayers. In any case, definitely not the Randy Travis song (besides, the song title ITSELF is a reference to this kind of prayer). I think the wording suggested by Onamuji is fine, however, References would be a better place for it.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 15:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::i disagree. Nebulon, i go to church every Sunday. (not like i'm "forced" to or anything, since there is no such thing...) and I say the Lord's Prayer at least once a day, sometimes more than that. not saying i'm better than you, i'm just saying i'm very familiar with it. but the O sound is too definite to be anything close to the Lord's Prayer. besides, there is only one "and ever" in the Lord's Prayer. I've also heard people include zero "and ever"s. DeFender is right: Strong Bad is just making fun of Andover being spelled "and over". To quote Strong Sad: "I dream of my own death, over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over..." that's the type of use of repetitive "and over" Strong Bad was referencing. not that specific example, but you get my point. and DeFender also brought up a good point when he said, "''the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was.''" whether you pronounce the A like the A in "all" or the A in "way", neither one sounds like the vowel Strong Bad said when he said the M. i didn't actually think about the Lord's Prayer while watching this until i saw this discussion about two months ago (four months after it took place), coincidentally right after i found out about my friend who forgot how to ride a bike after years of non-use. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::A similar argument could have been made in [[highschool]] against "cowichewa" being a reference for 今日は (konnichiwa), a Japanese greeting. I view these two as being rather similar, in that the thing that makes the reference is every bit as much the tone of voice and the rhythm Strong Bad is using as it is the words being used. The similarity is what makes me bust out laughing when I hear "well cowichewa to you too" and "and over and over, Amen." In "highschool", it seems to have been accepted that this kind of reference stands as an "aural allusion" despite there being too much of a "we" sound instead of a "ni" sound. You have to remember, of course many of the things Strong Bad says are deliberately poor imitations of the real thing. Simply having a different vowel sound has not stood in the way of Strong Bad's desire to make it fit before, has it? (especially when there's a punnable e-mail hometown at stake)
::::Also, to respond to your other statement, yes, there is such a thing as being forced to go to church, especially if you're a kid and your parents are making you. Be thankful you are not in that category. For those who were (are?), the "and over and over and over, Amen" part is especially funny if you grow up in an environment of having to listen to other people pray for a really long time and wishing they'd finish :D. Anyway, not everyone has to make the same connection in order for it to be a reference - just a significant enough number that find it funny. I often enjoy reading the "references" stuff for things I'd never thought of before, to see why other people laughed. I hope you don't take the idea of this being a reference as an offense against your belief - it's just Strong Bad having fun with the English language, as he is wont to do.
::::P.S. - do you say "ahh-men", "ey-men" or "uh-men"? The latter pronounciation is what I'm used to, and I guess that could be part of why I make that connection. The other ways of saying it aren't as close to "M.N." as "uh-men" is.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 04:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that "Andover Andover" could be a joke by itself, where "cowichewa" doesn't really make sense if it's not alluding to konnichiwa. (Was that clear?) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 17:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Remark? ==

I can't beleive this hasn't been brought up yet, but the crayon at the end never really ''touches'' the paper, it rests in Stro Bro's hand. I want to put this in remarks but I'm sure someone will delete it if i don't get some back-up. Who else noticed this? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Above Chalkboard ==

Above the Chalk board where the ABC's or Number line should be there are numbers and symbols which looked at closely resemble the alphabet ie -4 is A, I3 is B, ( is c etc. I was just wondering if that should be put in the description of the classroom? [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
: It's already on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:39:55 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Interesting coincidence... or did I?? */

== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just to go back to what J@ said a while ago, we've had a pretty long debate about it here.

Y'Know I think Salty might be on to something I've never seen [[The Cheat]] with his mouth open while talking in fact the only time he had his mouth open was in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (which was creepy). Also that might mean The Cheat only opens his mouth while making [[Powered by The Cheat|powered by the cheat cartoons]] y'know cause there's nobody around.
[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== "College sign in coloring book?" ==
It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion.
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Corna|the long version]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also it's most commonly known as "Rock on!" --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::They're called "the evil fingers" in [[fingers]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::-ahem- SB says ''Tofu'' is made out of baby seals. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, and tofu is made of soy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with PolarBoy, I think that the point is that Marzipan is part of the hippie idea that you can influence people to stop doing things by making them feel guilty about it. Kind of like fur. So, through whatever her logic is, consuming soy is akin to condoning murder, just as meat is. Spreading the feelings of guilt, myan!--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::O. -scuttles away-.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been told by quite a few people that areas of the Amazonian Rainforest are cut down to grow soya, usually from meateaters who want to have a go at vegans making out that soya milk and tofu are worse than dairy. However, the vast majority of soya that is grown is fed to cattle anyway. Could it be a reference to this?
:That sounds... oblique. The simple answer is that it's just playing on "Meat Is Murder", like has been stated at least a couple times here already. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It could be kind of like that person in ''Notting Hill,'' I think...I've only seen the movie once, but she said that the carrots were murdered or something like that because they were "killed" by being taken out of the ground. [[User:BlueStar|BlueStar]] 06:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with IRF and It's dot com on this one. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 20:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's possible that Strong Bad's head is blocking a "NOT" there, and "pressed bunson" is just a type of soy (made-up, of course). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, you can see the full text when SB is entering the frame. Either way, it's no use speculating what a made-up word means unless we find a good reference ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

perhaps its a solidified version of the gas used by bunson burners, you know, the things used for heation stuff for science experiments in schools
:That's spelled [[Wikipedia:Bunsen burner|Bunsen]], named after the [[Wikipedia:Robert Bunsen|chemist]] who invented it the burner. The gas is generally [[Wikipedia:Liquified petroleum gas|LPG]] or [[Wikipedia:Natural gas|natural gas]], incidentally. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunson[[User:67.184.9.80|67.184.9.80]] 21:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Does the DVD Commentary say anything? My guess is that they misspelled it on purpose to see if someone would notice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

google comes up with a answer if you take off the "pressed" part: a slang term for money,
mabe they eat money?

I found something from Yahoo! that said a pressed bunson was a hemorrhoid... --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, 'cause, you know, the jokes in H*R are always rooted in realism [[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I saw the email was the Dudley Do-right movie. In one scene, Dudley compares his suit to the the villain's, to prove that he nemesis' suit was, in fact, dark blue and not black. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think its more of a denial of any badness in the world, which seems to be the new age thing to do. Calling black "blue" would deny the negative connotations connectied to black, an idea much older than American racial issues, and puts a happy idea over the bad idea.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

well what about dermal discoveries? --((some anonymous twit on wheels))

I believe it could be a joke playing on the fact that grays and blacks in color palettes used in picture editing software fall just about under the blue stripe. If you take a screenshot, and paste it into a simple graphics editor, you may see what I mean. I probably shouldn't give you the name of the editor that I used. Just use the "most readily available with the mainstream OS" --((anonymous))

Do you notice that, as soon as Marzipan talks about calling it blue, Homestar appears in silhouette? In shadow, he's colored with what appears to be a dark blue color. Then, as soon as the camera turns to face him, we see StrongBad and Marzipan in silhouette with the same dark blue color. Perhaps it's an inside joke that dark blue works better than what we non-graphic-types would assume black is good for, such as shadowing characters.
-- [[User:Bofko]]

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ssh... it's close enough!
:::What? No, it isn't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::What about [[Thy Dungeonman]]? [[User:Seahen|Seahen]] 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: But it's not just a Homestar gag, Strongbad says it to. I remember there was an e-mail signed "Cat" to which he refered to as catman.
:::::::[[garage sale]]. But it's definitely more a Homestar thing than Strongo Baddo. Homestar's done it at least four times, and Sib's done it, what, once? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::In Strong Badia the Free, SB calls Homsar "floatyman".--[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::This is a reference to the age of consent in Canada, which is 14. There's no doubt about it.
:::::: The age of consent in Canada is 18...
::::::: No, it's 14. Look it up on Wikipedia.
I first tough they where comparing Limozeen to Rush...

:Highly doubt it. TBC choose to stay away from controversial issues like this. Not to mention that referencing real-world events is [[Flashforward_2006_Seattle_-_28_Feb_2006#Pre-animation_Process_-_4:05_p.m.|a type of SBEmail that won't be answered]]. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 00:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, that goes on my list of "Best Quotes of All Time" winners.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

strong bad crashing the seinor prom was a '''flashback'''

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
::Also, in high school, when everyone is babies, Homestar isn't shown as a baby but is seen an adult mother/nanny/whatever, but in this he is kindergarden.

he is in a 2nd kindergarten

Something I noticed: The alphabet above the chalkboard is the Leet-Speak alphabet.

Everyone is a baby in middle school, not high school but it's like I said it's weird that homestar is in preschool, when in old toons he's often shown wearing a graduate cap Andrew911 (forgot to login)

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear '''beans'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Beans''' speak to me too. --[[User:Benn|Benn]] 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I distinctly hear '''bea''m''s''', which makes ''more'' sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"'''Beans''' is heard by me. But it kinda sounds like "carrots" if you listen closely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I hear "Beams", although if I try, I can hear beans. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yep, i hear '''beams'''. Although I can hear '''Lays or Beans?''' if I listen closely. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I definitely hear '''beans'''. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''Beams''' for me. Think about it. He says "Maybe just laser beams/beans." It seems to me if you say "maybe just", you're trying to bring something down to the lowest common denominator (If I may use math terms.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I turned the volume to the max and Strong Bad definitely put an 'n' at the end of "beam," so I think he said "Beans." [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
:It actually sounds like there's both an "m" and an "n" sound in there. It's really hard to tell, but I think I hear more of the "m" sound. Also, notice how Strong Bad says, "Or maybe just laser bea...s". The way he words that statement, with the word "just" and the way he says the b word, leads me to believe that he no longer wanted The Cheat to make red-iculous laser types such as "laser limes", and wanted him to switch back to something more normal and practical, like laser beams. "Laser beans" does not seem to fit the logic of Strong Bad's statement. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...
: It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.
:::I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Best guess... Coach Z Would pronounce it as "Crains" :)

"Crowns" is how crayons is pronounced in Philadelphia PA.

== Goody Marzipan ==

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for [[Wikipedia:goodwife|Goodwife]] meaning a married woman.
:It's currently in [[STUFF]]. Please vote! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Um... what's a <s>Colt?</s> Cult? ==

Umm... HUTTAH! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Umm... What?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Er... a colt is a young male horse, but do you perhaps mean "cult"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Cult|Cult]] would be a good place to start. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== A squeak ==

Does anyone else hear that squeak noise before MArzipan says "No lifeblossom shines brighter than another."

== Transcript Thing ==

I'm 99.5% certain that SB says "crap-crap" when his crayon breaks, not "crudcrap".
:Nah, it's clearly "crud-crap". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "crud-crap" too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Webmaster in 1989 ‽ ==

I can’t believe that nobody has mentioned the fact that a coloring book for a 1989 tour has someone with the role of “Webmaster”. What could it have meant in 1989? Some variant of D&D perhaps? :) [[User:24.32.101.168|24.32.101.168]] 20:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's not? It was for a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It was deleted because the term "web" was actually used in hypertext systems since at least 1988. It might be worth mentioning the fact that the term only became popular with the World Wide Web in the early 90s.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pie-pie comics ==

I hadn't thought of Pie-pie = Popeye. The first thing I thought of was Tintin (pie...tin...). I didn't even know Popeye was a comic, too, and not just a cartoon.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it was Tintin, too! I went to a Monosorri school and most kids would sneek out to the library and read them, gotta love those Belgians--[[User:74.140.182.213|74.140.182.213]] 20:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it meant sci fi comics

== Trogdooor! ==

Okay, the music that plays when Strong Bad starts "melting off" Gary's face is ''clearly'' exactly the same as the music from when he first designed Trogdor. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and put it in the transcript, but if anyone has a problem with that, you know who did it. -- Dragoon5464 (having login problems.) [[User:4.244.36.219|4.244.36.219]] 03:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, goody. ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad refers to Marzipan as Goody Marzipan, the word "Goody" means goodwife, a courtesy title of married women.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)|09:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)|declined|18|6. A proposed revision was also declined, 9–1|coloring}}

== Homestar Going to the Library to read some Pie-Pie Comics? ==

We know about [[Pie|Pies]], but why does Homestar says that he wants to go to the library to read some Pie-Pie comics?

:There's been interesting speculation about various ideas, but basically there's no one thing that sticks out as an obvious reference. Oh, and do this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to let us know who you are. Like I will, right now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Popeye comics? [[User:A The Cheatcake|A The Cheatcake]] 05:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Over and Over ==

Randy Travis's "Forever & Ever Amen" - is it a reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spinal Tap reference ==
I am almost certain the drumming it plays while its showing while he shoots off the names of the colors it came with are a reference to the movie "This is Spinal Tap." A very similar drum beat is played before they perform the song Big Bottom.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ee8IBmK-9MQ

See for yourself.

:I don't think so. DSifferent tempo, different fills, bass follows rather than guitar and vocals; it's not the same at all, other than being drums. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

== Three pages?! ==

About the coloring book in where you can color, the email page says the book has three pages, but I counted 12. Should it be fixed or I'm misunderstanding it? -[[User:200.159.196.35|200.159.196.35]] 03:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Demon of Screamin' ==

It says in real-world references that Larry's "screamin' like a demon" is a reference to Gene Simmons. It seems to me as though it's clearly a reference to Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, who is nicknamed "The Demon of Screamin'." The two instances use the same two words, same rhyme, same everything except the order of the words.

== Lakers and Larry Bird ==
Reference to Magic Johnson vs. Larry Bird, perhaps?[[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Tag...? ==
Does anyone think commentary deserves a template, just like stub? Cuz I made one already...
[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]]
:That's something we should discuss on [[Template talk:commentary]], not on some random article's talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== I'm going to make the commentary ==

I'm not home right now, But I'm claiming the {{tl|commentary}} for this page. I just wanted to clarify. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:We don't actually do claiming, Michael. But assuming no one else starts before you get around to it, be my guest. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== And over, and over, and over. Amen. ==

(Yes, I see that Qermaq brought this up already, but that was referring to a popular song, and it was like two years ago.) 
Now, before I continue, let's agree not to stir up a religious storm and get off-topic here, shall we? Good? Good. Now, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=coloring&diff=prev&oldid=621666 this edit] (no offense, Dorian) removed what I think is a valid point without providing much counterargument. As a kid, I went to Catholic church fairly often (mostly for grandparental satisfaction), and I know that after a few years in a church, stuff like that sticks with you. Reciting certain prayers is much like riding a bike; it becomes to the mind a meaningless mantra, more sound than meaningful word, and impossible to forget despite years of non-use. 
Obviously, I don't know that much about TBC's current habits, but being Caucasians in midwest America (where I have lived all my life, and believe I know quite well), I think it quite likely that for at least some time in their childhood they attended Christian church services of some kind. The phrase "and over, and over, and over, Amen" appears in many prayers in many sects of Christianity. 
Perhaps to reinstate the trivia bit and keep everyone happy, we should simply tone down the religious aspect? A better wording might be
<blockquote>Strong Bad's reading of "Andover, MN" as "and over and over and over, M-N" closely resembles many prayers in Christianity, which end "for ever and ever, Amen."</blockquote>
Again, let me state: I believe there is no real religious meaning in this; the phrase and its rhythm are simply a part of the mind, just as [[sloshy]] uses "Christmas lights" on their bass drum without implying their Christianity whatsoever. 
Please, let this fact be put to a vote. Mine is a resounding '''yes'''; whether we regard Christianity as "right," wrong, crazy or the path to eternal bliss, we cannot deny that it is likely the single most powerful cultural force in European history. 
--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 06:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of all, he repeats it thrice, not twice. Second of all, we don't vote here, we discuss. Thirdly, if that's what they were going for, the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was. Fourthly, "and over" getting repeated is funny in its own right. If it were something that wouldn't be funny unless it was a reference to this, i might agree, but this seems (to me at least) to be clearly just be a joke on "Andover" with the "M-N" as an afterthought. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::This is totally a reference to praying, as anyone who was forced to go to church as a kid would know. He even says it in the same way, and for the record, he sounds closer to "Amen" than "M N" (not that there's really much difference between the two). Just to give a little more background - many churches have you repeat [[Wikipedia:The Lord's Prayer| the Lord's Prayer]] '''every single Sunday'''. Anyone who's been through it knows - Strong Bad is deliberately making fun of this by turning the location into something that is instantly recognizable as a [[Wikipedia:Trope_(linguistics)|trope]] sounding like a prayer. He is mocking the mantra-like nature of many commonly spoken prayers. In any case, definitely not the Randy Travis song (besides, the song title ITSELF is a reference to this kind of prayer). I think the wording suggested by Onamuji is fine, however, References would be a better place for it.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 15:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::i disagree. Nebulon, i go to church every Sunday. (not like i'm "forced" to or anything, since there is no such thing...) and I say the Lord's Prayer at least once a day, sometimes more than that. not saying i'm better than you, i'm just saying i'm very familiar with it. but the O sound is too definite to be anything close to the Lord's Prayer. besides, there is only one "and ever" in the Lord's Prayer. I've also heard people include zero "and ever"s. DeFender is right: Strong Bad is just making fun of Andover being spelled "and over". To quote Strong Sad: "I dream of my own death, over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over..." that's the type of use of repetitive "and over" Strong Bad was referencing. not that specific example, but you get my point. and DeFender also brought up a good point when he said, "''the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was.''" whether you pronounce the A like the A in "all" or the A in "way", neither one sounds like the vowel Strong Bad said when he said the M. i didn't actually think about the Lord's Prayer while watching this until i saw this discussion about two months ago (four months after it took place), coincidentally right after i found out about my friend who forgot how to ride a bike after years of non-use. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::A similar argument could have been made in [[highschool]] against "cowichewa" being a reference for 今日は (konnichiwa), a Japanese greeting. I view these two as being rather similar, in that the thing that makes the reference is every bit as much the tone of voice and the rhythm Strong Bad is using as it is the words being used. The similarity is what makes me bust out laughing when I hear "well cowichewa to you too" and "and over and over, Amen." In "highschool", it seems to have been accepted that this kind of reference stands as an "aural allusion" despite there being too much of a "we" sound instead of a "ni" sound. You have to remember, of course many of the things Strong Bad says are deliberately poor imitations of the real thing. Simply having a different vowel sound has not stood in the way of Strong Bad's desire to make it fit before, has it? (especially when there's a punnable e-mail hometown at stake)
::::Also, to respond to your other statement, yes, there is such a thing as being forced to go to church, especially if you're a kid and your parents are making you. Be thankful you are not in that category. For those who were (are?), the "and over and over and over, Amen" part is especially funny if you grow up in an environment of having to listen to other people pray for a really long time and wishing they'd finish :D. Anyway, not everyone has to make the same connection in order for it to be a reference - just a significant enough number that find it funny. I often enjoy reading the "references" stuff for things I'd never thought of before, to see why other people laughed. I hope you don't take the idea of this being a reference as an offense against your belief - it's just Strong Bad having fun with the English language, as he is wont to do.
::::P.S. - do you say "ahh-men", "ey-men" or "uh-men"? The latter pronounciation is what I'm used to, and I guess that could be part of why I make that connection. The other ways of saying it aren't as close to "M.N." as "uh-men" is.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 04:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that "Andover Andover" could be a joke by itself, where "cowichewa" doesn't really make sense if it's not alluding to konnichiwa. (Was that clear?) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 17:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Remark? ==

I can't beleive this hasn't been brought up yet, but the crayon at the end never really ''touches'' the paper, it rests in Stro Bro's hand. I want to put this in remarks but I'm sure someone will delete it if i don't get some back-up. Who else noticed this? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Above Chalkboard ==

Above the Chalk board where the ABC's or Number line should be there are numbers and symbols which looked at closely resemble the alphabet ie -4 is A, I3 is B, ( is c etc. I was just wondering if that should be put in the description of the classroom? [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
: It's already on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:coloring

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:37:18 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Interesting coincidence... or did I?? */

== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just to go back to what J@ said a while ago, we've had a pretty long debate about it here.

Y'Know I think Salty might be on to something I've never seen [[The Cheat]] with his mouth open while talking in fact the only time he had his mouth open was in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (which was creepy). Also that might mean The Cheat only opens his mouth while making [[Powered by The Cheat|powered by the cheat cartoons]] y'know cause there's nobody around.
[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== "College sign in coloring book?" ==
It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion.
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Corna|the long version]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also it's most commonly known as "Rock on!" --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::They're called "the evil fingers" in [[fingers]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::-ahem- SB says ''Tofu'' is made out of baby seals. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, and tofu is made of soy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with PolarBoy, I think that the point is that Marzipan is part of the hippie idea that you can influence people to stop doing things by making them feel guilty about it. Kind of like fur. So, through whatever her logic is, consuming soy is akin to condoning murder, just as meat is. Spreading the feelings of guilt, myan!--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::O. -scuttles away-.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been told by quite a few people that areas of the Amazonian Rainforest are cut down to grow soya, usually from meateaters who want to have a go at vegans making out that soya milk and tofu are worse than dairy. However, the vast majority of soya that is grown is fed to cattle anyway. Could it be a reference to this?
:That sounds... oblique. The simple answer is that it's just playing on "Meat Is Murder", like has been stated at least a couple times here already. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It could be kind of like that person in ''Notting Hill,'' I think...I've only seen the movie once, but she said that the carrots were murdered or something like that because they were "killed" by being taken out of the ground. [[User:BlueStar|BlueStar]] 06:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with its dot com on this one. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 20:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's possible that Strong Bad's head is blocking a "NOT" there, and "pressed bunson" is just a type of soy (made-up, of course). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, you can see the full text when SB is entering the frame. Either way, it's no use speculating what a made-up word means unless we find a good reference ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

perhaps its a solidified version of the gas used by bunson burners, you know, the things used for heation stuff for science experiments in schools
:That's spelled [[Wikipedia:Bunsen burner|Bunsen]], named after the [[Wikipedia:Robert Bunsen|chemist]] who invented it the burner. The gas is generally [[Wikipedia:Liquified petroleum gas|LPG]] or [[Wikipedia:Natural gas|natural gas]], incidentally. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunson[[User:67.184.9.80|67.184.9.80]] 21:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Does the DVD Commentary say anything? My guess is that they misspelled it on purpose to see if someone would notice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

google comes up with a answer if you take off the "pressed" part: a slang term for money,
mabe they eat money?

I found something from Yahoo! that said a pressed bunson was a hemorrhoid... --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, 'cause, you know, the jokes in H*R are always rooted in realism [[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I saw the email was the Dudley Do-right movie. In one scene, Dudley compares his suit to the the villain's, to prove that he nemesis' suit was, in fact, dark blue and not black. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think its more of a denial of any badness in the world, which seems to be the new age thing to do. Calling black "blue" would deny the negative connotations connectied to black, an idea much older than American racial issues, and puts a happy idea over the bad idea.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

well what about dermal discoveries? --((some anonymous twit on wheels))

I believe it could be a joke playing on the fact that grays and blacks in color palettes used in picture editing software fall just about under the blue stripe. If you take a screenshot, and paste it into a simple graphics editor, you may see what I mean. I probably shouldn't give you the name of the editor that I used. Just use the "most readily available with the mainstream OS" --((anonymous))

Do you notice that, as soon as Marzipan talks about calling it blue, Homestar appears in silhouette? In shadow, he's colored with what appears to be a dark blue color. Then, as soon as the camera turns to face him, we see StrongBad and Marzipan in silhouette with the same dark blue color. Perhaps it's an inside joke that dark blue works better than what we non-graphic-types would assume black is good for, such as shadowing characters.
-- [[User:Bofko]]

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ssh... it's close enough!
:::What? No, it isn't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::What about [[Thy Dungeonman]]? [[User:Seahen|Seahen]] 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: But it's not just a Homestar gag, Strongbad says it to. I remember there was an e-mail signed "Cat" to which he refered to as catman.
:::::::[[garage sale]]. But it's definitely more a Homestar thing than Strongo Baddo. Homestar's done it at least four times, and Sib's done it, what, once? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::In Strong Badia the Free, SB calls Homsar "floatyman".--[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::This is a reference to the age of consent in Canada, which is 14. There's no doubt about it.
:::::: The age of consent in Canada is 18...
::::::: No, it's 14. Look it up on Wikipedia.
I first tough they where comparing Limozeen to Rush...

:Highly doubt it. TBC choose to stay away from controversial issues like this. Not to mention that referencing real-world events is [[Flashforward_2006_Seattle_-_28_Feb_2006#Pre-animation_Process_-_4:05_p.m.|a type of SBEmail that won't be answered]]. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 00:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, that goes on my list of "Best Quotes of All Time" winners.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

strong bad crashing the seinor prom was a '''flashback'''

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
::Also, in high school, when everyone is babies, Homestar isn't shown as a baby but is seen an adult mother/nanny/whatever, but in this he is kindergarden.

he is in a 2nd kindergarten

Something I noticed: The alphabet above the chalkboard is the Leet-Speak alphabet.

Everyone is a baby in middle school, not high school but it's like I said it's weird that homestar is in preschool, when in old toons he's often shown wearing a graduate cap Andrew911 (forgot to login)

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear '''beans'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Beans''' speak to me too. --[[User:Benn|Benn]] 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I distinctly hear '''bea''m''s''', which makes ''more'' sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"'''Beans''' is heard by me. But it kinda sounds like "carrots" if you listen closely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I hear "Beams", although if I try, I can hear beans. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yep, i hear '''beams'''. Although I can hear '''Lays or Beans?''' if I listen closely. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I definitely hear '''beans'''. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''Beams''' for me. Think about it. He says "Maybe just laser beams/beans." It seems to me if you say "maybe just", you're trying to bring something down to the lowest common denominator (If I may use math terms.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I turned the volume to the max and Strong Bad definitely put an 'n' at the end of "beam," so I think he said "Beans." [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
:It actually sounds like there's both an "m" and an "n" sound in there. It's really hard to tell, but I think I hear more of the "m" sound. Also, notice how Strong Bad says, "Or maybe just laser bea...s". The way he words that statement, with the word "just" and the way he says the b word, leads me to believe that he no longer wanted The Cheat to make red-iculous laser types such as "laser limes", and wanted him to switch back to something more normal and practical, like laser beams. "Laser beans" does not seem to fit the logic of Strong Bad's statement. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...
: It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.
:::I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Best guess... Coach Z Would pronounce it as "Crains" :)

"Crowns" is how crayons is pronounced in Philadelphia PA.

== Goody Marzipan ==

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for [[Wikipedia:goodwife|Goodwife]] meaning a married woman.
:It's currently in [[STUFF]]. Please vote! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Um... what's a <s>Colt?</s> Cult? ==

Umm... HUTTAH! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Umm... What?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Er... a colt is a young male horse, but do you perhaps mean "cult"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Cult|Cult]] would be a good place to start. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== A squeak ==

Does anyone else hear that squeak noise before MArzipan says "No lifeblossom shines brighter than another."

== Transcript Thing ==

I'm 99.5% certain that SB says "crap-crap" when his crayon breaks, not "crudcrap".
:Nah, it's clearly "crud-crap". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "crud-crap" too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Webmaster in 1989 ‽ ==

I can’t believe that nobody has mentioned the fact that a coloring book for a 1989 tour has someone with the role of “Webmaster”. What could it have meant in 1989? Some variant of D&D perhaps? :) [[User:24.32.101.168|24.32.101.168]] 20:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's not? It was for a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It was deleted because the term "web" was actually used in hypertext systems since at least 1988. It might be worth mentioning the fact that the term only became popular with the World Wide Web in the early 90s.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pie-pie comics ==

I hadn't thought of Pie-pie = Popeye. The first thing I thought of was Tintin (pie...tin...). I didn't even know Popeye was a comic, too, and not just a cartoon.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it was Tintin, too! I went to a Monosorri school and most kids would sneek out to the library and read them, gotta love those Belgians--[[User:74.140.182.213|74.140.182.213]] 20:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it meant sci fi comics

== Trogdooor! ==

Okay, the music that plays when Strong Bad starts "melting off" Gary's face is ''clearly'' exactly the same as the music from when he first designed Trogdor. I'm gonna be '''bold''' and put it in the transcript, but if anyone has a problem with that, you know who did it. -- Dragoon5464 (having login problems.) [[User:4.244.36.219|4.244.36.219]] 03:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, goody. ===
{{stufffact|When Strong Bad refers to Marzipan as Goody Marzipan, the word "Goody" means goodwife, a courtesy title of married women.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)|09:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)|declined|18|6. A proposed revision was also declined, 9–1|coloring}}

== Homestar Going to the Library to read some Pie-Pie Comics? ==

We know about [[Pie|Pies]], but why does Homestar says that he wants to go to the library to read some Pie-Pie comics?

:There's been interesting speculation about various ideas, but basically there's no one thing that sticks out as an obvious reference. Oh, and do this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to let us know who you are. Like I will, right now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Popeye comics? [[User:A The Cheatcake|A The Cheatcake]] 05:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Over and Over ==

Randy Travis's "Forever & Ever Amen" - is it a reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spinal Tap reference ==
I am almost certain the drumming it plays while its showing while he shoots off the names of the colors it came with are a reference to the movie "This is Spinal Tap." A very similar drum beat is played before they perform the song Big Bottom.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ee8IBmK-9MQ

See for yourself.

:I don't think so. DSifferent tempo, different fills, bass follows rather than guitar and vocals; it's not the same at all, other than being drums. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

== Three pages?! ==

About the coloring book in where you can color, the email page says the book has three pages, but I counted 12. Should it be fixed or I'm misunderstanding it? -[[User:200.159.196.35|200.159.196.35]] 03:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Demon of Screamin' ==

It says in real-world references that Larry's "screamin' like a demon" is a reference to Gene Simmons. It seems to me as though it's clearly a reference to Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, who is nicknamed "The Demon of Screamin'." The two instances use the same two words, same rhyme, same everything except the order of the words.

== Lakers and Larry Bird ==
Reference to Magic Johnson vs. Larry Bird, perhaps?[[User:Yt2005|Yt2005]] 16:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Tag...? ==
Does anyone think commentary deserves a template, just like stub? Cuz I made one already...
[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]]
:That's something we should discuss on [[Template talk:commentary]], not on some random article's talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== I'm going to make the commentary ==

I'm not home right now, But I'm claiming the {{tl|commentary}} for this page. I just wanted to clarify. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:We don't actually do claiming, Michael. But assuming no one else starts before you get around to it, be my guest. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== And over, and over, and over. Amen. ==

(Yes, I see that Qermaq brought this up already, but that was referring to a popular song, and it was like two years ago.) 
Now, before I continue, let's agree not to stir up a religious storm and get off-topic here, shall we? Good? Good. Now, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=coloring&diff=prev&oldid=621666 this edit] (no offense, Dorian) removed what I think is a valid point without providing much counterargument. As a kid, I went to Catholic church fairly often (mostly for grandparental satisfaction), and I know that after a few years in a church, stuff like that sticks with you. Reciting certain prayers is much like riding a bike; it becomes to the mind a meaningless mantra, more sound than meaningful word, and impossible to forget despite years of non-use. 
Obviously, I don't know that much about TBC's current habits, but being Caucasians in midwest America (where I have lived all my life, and believe I know quite well), I think it quite likely that for at least some time in their childhood they attended Christian church services of some kind. The phrase "and over, and over, and over, Amen" appears in many prayers in many sects of Christianity. 
Perhaps to reinstate the trivia bit and keep everyone happy, we should simply tone down the religious aspect? A better wording might be
<blockquote>Strong Bad's reading of "Andover, MN" as "and over and over and over, M-N" closely resembles many prayers in Christianity, which end "for ever and ever, Amen."</blockquote>
Again, let me state: I believe there is no real religious meaning in this; the phrase and its rhythm are simply a part of the mind, just as [[sloshy]] uses "Christmas lights" on their bass drum without implying their Christianity whatsoever. 
Please, let this fact be put to a vote. Mine is a resounding '''yes'''; whether we regard Christianity as "right," wrong, crazy or the path to eternal bliss, we cannot deny that it is likely the single most powerful cultural force in European history. 
--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 06:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of all, he repeats it thrice, not twice. Second of all, we don't vote here, we discuss. Thirdly, if that's what they were going for, the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was. Fourthly, "and over" getting repeated is funny in its own right. If it were something that wouldn't be funny unless it was a reference to this, i might agree, but this seems (to me at least) to be clearly just be a joke on "Andover" with the "M-N" as an afterthought. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::This is totally a reference to praying, as anyone who was forced to go to church as a kid would know. He even says it in the same way, and for the record, he sounds closer to "Amen" than "M N" (not that there's really much difference between the two). Just to give a little more background - many churches have you repeat [[Wikipedia:The Lord's Prayer| the Lord's Prayer]] '''every single Sunday'''. Anyone who's been through it knows - Strong Bad is deliberately making fun of this by turning the location into something that is instantly recognizable as a [[Wikipedia:Trope_(linguistics)|trope]] sounding like a prayer. He is mocking the mantra-like nature of many commonly spoken prayers. In any case, definitely not the Randy Travis song (besides, the song title ITSELF is a reference to this kind of prayer). I think the wording suggested by Onamuji is fine, however, References would be a better place for it.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 15:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::i disagree. Nebulon, i go to church every Sunday. (not like i'm "forced" to or anything, since there is no such thing...) and I say the Lord's Prayer at least once a day, sometimes more than that. not saying i'm better than you, i'm just saying i'm very familiar with it. but the O sound is too definite to be anything close to the Lord's Prayer. besides, there is only one "and ever" in the Lord's Prayer. I've also heard people include zero "and ever"s. DeFender is right: Strong Bad is just making fun of Andover being spelled "and over". To quote Strong Sad: "I dream of my own death, over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over..." that's the type of use of repetitive "and over" Strong Bad was referencing. not that specific example, but you get my point. and DeFender also brought up a good point when he said, "''the "M-N" could have been pronounced a lot closer to "Amen" than it was.''" whether you pronounce the A like the A in "all" or the A in "way", neither one sounds like the vowel Strong Bad said when he said the M. i didn't actually think about the Lord's Prayer while watching this until i saw this discussion about two months ago (four months after it took place), coincidentally right after i found out about my friend who forgot how to ride a bike after years of non-use. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::A similar argument could have been made in [[highschool]] against "cowichewa" being a reference for 今日は (konnichiwa), a Japanese greeting. I view these two as being rather similar, in that the thing that makes the reference is every bit as much the tone of voice and the rhythm Strong Bad is using as it is the words being used. The similarity is what makes me bust out laughing when I hear "well cowichewa to you too" and "and over and over, Amen." In "highschool", it seems to have been accepted that this kind of reference stands as an "aural allusion" despite there being too much of a "we" sound instead of a "ni" sound. You have to remember, of course many of the things Strong Bad says are deliberately poor imitations of the real thing. Simply having a different vowel sound has not stood in the way of Strong Bad's desire to make it fit before, has it? (especially when there's a punnable e-mail hometown at stake)
::::Also, to respond to your other statement, yes, there is such a thing as being forced to go to church, especially if you're a kid and your parents are making you. Be thankful you are not in that category. For those who were (are?), the "and over and over and over, Amen" part is especially funny if you grow up in an environment of having to listen to other people pray for a really long time and wishing they'd finish :D. Anyway, not everyone has to make the same connection in order for it to be a reference - just a significant enough number that find it funny. I often enjoy reading the "references" stuff for things I'd never thought of before, to see why other people laughed. I hope you don't take the idea of this being a reference as an offense against your belief - it's just Strong Bad having fun with the English language, as he is wont to do.
::::P.S. - do you say "ahh-men", "ey-men" or "uh-men"? The latter pronounciation is what I'm used to, and I guess that could be part of why I make that connection. The other ways of saying it aren't as close to "M.N." as "uh-men" is.{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 04:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that "Andover Andover" could be a joke by itself, where "cowichewa" doesn't really make sense if it's not alluding to konnichiwa. (Was that clear?) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 17:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Remark? ==

I can't beleive this hasn't been brought up yet, but the crayon at the end never really ''touches'' the paper, it rests in Stro Bro's hand. I want to put this in remarks but I'm sure someone will delete it if i don't get some back-up. Who else noticed this? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Above Chalkboard ==

Above the Chalk board where the ABC's or Number line should be there are numbers and symbols which looked at closely resemble the alphabet ie -4 is A, I3 is B, ( is c etc. I was just wondering if that should be put in the description of the classroom? [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
: It's already on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/188.141.14.79|188.141.14.79]] 01:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:15:20 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Forced-downloads */

If anyone wants to say anything, this is the place:

== Forced-downloads ==

Hey there, Mr. Drivin' 'Cause it's Midnight. You've said that you're having trouble listening to your [[:File:H*RslowKickABall.ogg|recent upload]] in your browser. OGG is one of those formats that isn't universally supported by browsers. When a browser attempts to view a file that isn't a web page, it will check if it has built-in support for that file format. Then, it will check for installed and/or available plug-ins that support said format. As a last resort, it will treat the file as a download so the user can open it in a stand-alone application. Contrary to what I might have implied in a recent edit, MediaWiki doesn't hand out forced-downloads like some websites. So what you're experiencing is normal; your browser just doesn't know what do to with OGG files. I hope this helps. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
*That makes sense. Thanks, SB. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 20:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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== Help Please ==
Does anyone know how to make your singniture look different?
:Yes. We have instructions on how to do so [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, man. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 01:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Just out of curiosity, did you mean for your signature to say 500000 (five hundred thousand) instead of 50000 (fifty thousand)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, oops. Thanks, I didn't notice, what with all those zeros. I'll go fix it. 
Corrected! Again, thanks. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 02:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hey bro, you sig is changing all the other text colors. (as seen above). You might want to change that. You need to put a <nowiki> after every (every) tag.</nowiki> {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 02:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It's changing the other text when you view it? That's strange. I'll change it. Fixed? {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 03:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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Talk:3D Menu Screen Tests

NighttimeDriver50000 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:38:14 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Not long after all */

==Broken Saints reference?==
When Strong Bad announces that he "didn't buy this DVD to read a bunch of text," it might be a verbal jab at the proprietors of Broken Saints.com, another popular flash website. Broken Saints features manga-style flash dramas, arranged in an episodic format, that contain no dialogue. Floating speech bubbles & copious amounts of text are used instead to create the feel of an animated comic book. A DVD set of the series' 24 episodes was released around the same time as the [[strongbad_email.exe]] DVD.

:Sorry, I think it is just a joke, not a reference. -[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]] 08:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

==Not long after all==

In the email "Gimmicks" we see that Strong Bad flys quite a long way before finally crashing through the wall in Strong Sad's room. In this thing however, Strong Sad's room is only a few feet away. --Cyberdemon 8:42 PM, July 2 2007

* Location of places is quite a large inconsistency group for [[Homestar Runner (body of work)| Homestar Runner]]. It may even be intentional now... to a degree. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 22:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

File:H*RslowKickABall.ogg

NighttimeDriver50000 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:14:05 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Summary */

== Summary ==
Homestar from kick a ball when he supposedly said "and strong sad" slowed down to almost double its length. Notice: clicking on the above link will download the file, not play it. I don't know how to get it to play in the browser.

== Licensing ==
{{web-soundclip}}

Kick-A-Ball

NighttimeDriver50000 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:12:36 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Remarks */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|kickball|Career Day|2 Part Episode: Part 1}}
[[Image:Kickball.png|thumb|"What perfect teams, huh, guys?"]]

The Even Stevens take on Little Stevie and the Evens in a game of [[Wikipedia:kickball|kickball]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, [[The Umpire]], {{film|The Announcer}}, [[Poms|Tim Tom]], [[Onion Bubs]]

'''Places:''' [[The Athletic Field]], [[Outer Space]], [[Beaches|A Beach]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, March 17, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:24

'''Page Title:''' A Kick-a-ball jam named Saturdays

==Transcript==
''{A kickball juts forward on a musical sting, while "Kick-a Ball!" appears around it. The ball zooms in and its blue texture forms the background. The letters in "The Captains!" fall into place. A red bar with Homestar's face and a green bar with Strong Bad's face appear above and below that, respectively. That disappears and "The Draft!" falls into place. The ball zooms out quickly and lands between Strong Bad and Homestar, standing near the Umpire and a number of other characters.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, gentlemen, dukes up! It's one-potato-two-potato see who gets first pick!

''{Strong Bad leans forward menacingly, holding both arms forward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{growls}''

''{Homestar leans forward too.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as though growling}'' Hmmmm!

''{Crickets chirp for a few moments as nothing happens. The Umpire looks between both characters, particularly where Homestar's hands would be.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ummmmm...

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Ah, right! Sorry! ''{produces a Trogdor-themed coin}'' Coin toss to see who gets first pick!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wait! Why? I love 'tatoes!

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Call it in the air!

''{Strong Bad tosses the coin.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh... Sonic. I mean, Tails!

''{The coin lands tails-up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Yes! Pom Pom, you have been and always will be my dog, but today, I gotta play the strategy card. I'm goin' with Pom Pom.

'''POM POM:''' ''{cocks an eyebrow in confusion, then bubbles and bounces toward Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, get your spotted yellow hinder over here!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{excited The Cheat noise, walks toward Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' YOU CUT ME DEEP! ''{frowns sadly and sobs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let's see, let's see. Who's good in the field? Ooh! I'll take Pom Pom! Surprised he hasn't been snatched up yet!

''{Pom Pom lowers his eyes, annoyed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um, but you just—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stepping toward Strong Bad}'' Ah, ah, ah! Too late! I called 'im! You'll just have to be quicker next time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rolling his head around}'' Ooooooooooooooooooooo... kay. I got Bubs!

''{Bubs walks toward Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT THE CRAP?!

'''POM POM:''' ''{quiet bubbles, leaning toward Homestar's ears}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{whispering}'' Yeah, yeah, good call, he's got a great arm. ''{loudly}'' We'll take Pom Pom!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What a surprise. All right, Graw Mad, get over here.

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{singing happily}'' YOU ARE FORGIVEN!

''{Pom Pom looks on in exasperation as Homestar considers.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, this one's a toughie. But, we gotta go with Pom Pom.

''{Pom Pom lowers his head.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This keeps teetering between hilarious and maybe-we-should-put-him-in-a-home.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...And what wouldn't be hilarious about that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, Poopsmith!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{leaning out from behind Pom Pom}'' Pom Pom! Let's do this!

''{The remaining four characters are shown side by side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Coach Z!

''{Coach Z disappears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll go with Pom Pom.

'''STRONG BAD:''' K.O.T., you're with me.

''{The King of Town disappears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pooooooom!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly, to the side, and disgustedly}'' Marzipan...

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'm sorry, what was that?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{smiling}'' Oh, I think he picked me! ''{starts to walk forward}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I didn't, I picked Marzipan.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{turns back, in the same cheerful tone as the last line}'' Cool!

''{By this point, Pom Pom is lying on the ground in sheer annoyance.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{unintelligible}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, well, well, look who's—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up! You play eighth base!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sounds important!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looking at the now-empty space where the characters were previously standing}'' Ouch! Pom Pom! Picked last?! It's okay. You can be on our team.

''{Cut back to show the eleven characters split among the teams.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What perfect teams, huh, guys? Even Stevens!

''{Cut back to the blue texture on the ball. A red bar with Homestar and Pom Pom appears at the top labeled "the even stevens", and a green bar appears at the bottom with everyone else labeled "vs. little stevie & the evens". The Umpire appears in a circle in the corner.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, kickbaaaall!

''{Cut to the playing field. Pom Pom is winding up to pitch the ball. He looks toward the ball.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

''{He throws the ball. It flies through the air in an extremely improbable whirling motion. Strong Bad, at the plate, attempts to kick it—}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oop... RAAAH!

''{—but misses and falls down with a "whiff!"}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Stee-riiiiike!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, no fair! He was tellin' the ball what to do! It's probably one of his cousins or something!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Are you talkin' about little Tim Tom? He's ''way'' better-looking than that!

''{A kickball rolls across the screen to transition to The Cheat at the plate. He attempts to kick the ball, somehow resulting in both him and the ball flying across the field. He lands just next to first base, but then the ball lands on top of him before he can touch it.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Yer oooooouuuut!

''{Coach Z leans in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{angrily}'' I don't know what kinda low-rent, three-bedroom, two-bath, section 8 sport ''you're'' playin' here, ''{suddenly calmly}'' but I'm playing women's lacrosse. ''{He holds up a lacrosse stick.}''

''{Cut back as Coach Z turns to walk away. He's wearing a pink skirt.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' Ooo-doo-doo-doo-dooooooo...

''{Marzipan steps up to the plate.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, well, well! Look who it is!

''{Marzipan stamps the ground twice in preparation.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You got nothin', sister! You couldn't kick your way out of lookin' at a thing in a bag! Your momma wears combat boots! ''{he pitches the ball}'' Whoop!

'''MARZIPAN:''' She does not!

''{Marzipan kicks with a thick boot and the ball goes flying. Homestar tries to follow its movement but falls over. The King of Town is now at the plate and the ball rolls up to him. He jumps as the ball goes past.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' ''{appearing in a bubble next to the King of Town}'' Stee-rike three, yer out!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sadly}'' Guess I'll go on back to the dugout.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh... that's not what happens when you strike out in kickball.

''{The King of Town is then seen being loaded into a catapult.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I never got my sunflower ''{he's fired from the catapult}'' seeeeeeeeeeeeds!

''{The scoreboard behind him flashes "yer out!" Strong Mad is seen kicking the ball, and it flies over Pom Pom's head, travels around the world, flies over the head of a Pom with identical coloring to the kickball, continues its path, and strikes Strong Mad in the back of the head.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' ''{again appearing in a bubble}'' Yer oooooouuuuut!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{sadly}'' Awwwwww...

''{Following this is a montage where Bubs catches the ball, Homestar kicks the ball, The Poopsmith throws the ball at Pom Pom, and Strong Sad (standing next to a white 8-shaped "base" on the ground) pats his belly, all four making kickball sounds in time with the music. Cut to The Announcer in a booth nearby.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' It all comes down to this! Two outs! Bottom of the ninth! Down by two!

''{Cut to a shot of the scoreboard for a moment showing this. "Home" or "HS" has 127 runs, and "Visitor" or "SB" has 125.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Strong Bad has a chance to win it, right here, right now! It doesn't get more exciting than this!

''{Cut to Onion Bubs sitting next to the BooOOM Box.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{through the radio}'' I have no idea who I'm broadcasting to!

''{Cut to Homestar, holding the ball. The Cheat can be seen on base behind him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Two outs, bottom of the ninth, down by two. Strong Bad has a chance to win it, right here, right now. It doesn't g—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{yelling}'' JUST PITCH THE FREAKIN' BALL!!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Comin' up!

''{He throws the ball. It rolls toward Strong Bad...}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hyaaaah!

''{...and he kicks it! It flies high and far. Strong Mad can be seen on third base, as well as The Cheat on second. Cut to Strong Sad, still standing by "eighth base".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's ''four'' different types of grass I've identified now!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Sad! Why don't you recite your favorite Cartier Baudelaire couplet?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, you mean... ''{He holds out his arms and closes his eyes as he recites.}'' The beige malaise can last for—

''{The kickball lands in Strong Sad's arms. He grabs it, surprised.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oooh!

''{Strong Bad is about to cross home plate, but...}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Yer ooooouuuut! That's the ball game!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the crap?! B-but he's on ''my'' team!

''{Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Au the contrary, Strong Bad. If you'll watch the official tape of the draft, you'll see that Strong Sad is on ''my'' team!

''{Cut to the "REPLAYTRON", replaying the scene where Pom Pom was lying on the ground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{unintelligible}''

''{The scene rewinds.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{The tape slows down immensely. In a low, slow voice, out of the corner of his mouth:}'' And Strong Sad!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, but that's cheating! You cheated! ''{smiles}'' For once, ''you'' cheated, and ''I'' win!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' On the contraire, Strong Bad. If you'll review the official rule book,

''{He produces said book and looks into it. The page reads:

<blockquote>
Official Kick-a Ball Rules 
 
Rule 1. Same rules as 
kickball, except with 
"-a" added. 
AND double side-mouth whisper 
drafts are totally legal! 
signed, the commish 
(not strong bad) 
Rule 2. Striking out results 
in vehement catapultery.
</blockquote>

''{The parts in blue are in Strong Bad's handwriting, and a small picture of a fire-breathing Strong Bad is drawn in the same color next to this.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You'll see that double side-mouth whisper drafts have been quite legal since 1989!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, the ding and the dang! ''{He turns around to look at The Cheat, standing behind him.}'' The Cheat! I told you to check our Cheaters' Almanac to make sure we didn't step on any of our own Cheat-toes!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises, holds up a bag of "CHEAT-TOES".}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, everybody! Line up!

''{Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad stand still, with Homestar inexplicably sad, while Strong Bad, Coach Z, The Cheat, Bubs, Strong Mad, and Marzipan all walk past sadly in turn. Strong Bad's team takes a single step forward one at a time as each visible character says the following simultaneously on each step:}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER and STRONG SAD:''' Good game... ''(etc.)'' 
'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}'' 
'''STRONG BAD, COACH Z, BUBS, STRONG MAD, and MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, right... ''(etc.)'' 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}

''{As they continue forward, The King of Town flies by in the background.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!

''{Cut to a final screen reading "end." The circles inside the E and D, and the period, are all kickballs. "back" is written in the corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the period after "end" (a kickball) to see a scene in the announcer's booth.
:'''THE UMPIRE:''' Honest to God, Mookie Blaylock gave this kickball my aunt, 1984.
:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' I simply cannot express how impressive that kickball is!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*When arguing with the umpire, Coach Z refers to "low rent, three bedroom, two bath, Section 8" sport.
**[[Wikipedia:Section 8 (housing)|Section 8]] is a federal voucher-subsidized housing program in the United States. Rental housing occupied by Section 8 participants is indeed generally low rent.
**It might also refer to a [[Wikipedia:Section 8 (military)|Section 8 military discharge]]. In the TV series [[Wikipedia:M*A*S*H (TV series)|M*A*S*H]], Corporal Klinger tried to obtain one of these by wearing women's clothing, as Coach Z does here.
*One-potato, two-potato is a kind of [[Wikipedia:Counting-out game|counting-out game]].

===Trivia===
*This is the first appearance of the Umpire since [[Where My Hat Is At?]], and his first animated appearance. He was previously scheduled to appear in a 2006 [[Strong Bad Email]] (according to the DVD commentary), but the Brothers Chaps forgot.
*The theme song for this toon is a remixed version of the theme used in [[Weclome Back]].
*This is the first appearance of [[Coach Z]]'s new angry eyes.

===Remarks===
[[Image:Homestarareal.PNG|thumb|200px|Aerial Homestar]]
*Although the Umpire told everyone to line up, The Poopsmith was absent in the final scene.
*Even if Homestar did not repetitively pick Pom Pom, he and Strong Bad would be unable to have equal teams because there are nine (i.e. an odd number) players to choose from.
*Homestar blinks at an excessive and erratic rate after lecturing Strong Bad to be quicker when selecting his players.
*Homestar's mouth does not move to "good game" when he is silhouetted.
*Strong Bad's team is at bat in the bottom of the ninth, even though the scoreboard shows them as the visiting team.
*An aerial view of Homestar can be briefly seen as Strong Bad flips the coin, before the view is obscured by it. Homestar, Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are also [[:File:Kick-a-ball Aerial.png|seen from above]] before Strong Bad's kick.
*During The Cheat's at bat, Homestar appears to be playing both catcher (when The Cheat "kicks") and one of the basemen (when he lands). This could be another example of [[twin characters]].
*When slowed down, Homestar sounds like he's saying "wait," not "and Strong Sad: [[File:H*RslowKickABall.ogg]]. 

===Inside References===
*[[Trogdor]]'s face (without his consummate V teeth), and tail can be seen on the coin.
*In the Easter egg, the Umpire's conversation with the Announcer about Mookie Blaylock and the kickball closely resembles [[the Grape Fairie]]'s conversation with the Announcer about Mookie Wilson and the [[Golbol]], seen in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Homestar taunts Marzipan, declaring she couldn't kick her way out of [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]].
*All three of [[The Brothers Strong]] smile in this toon - [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]] when Strong Bad picks him for the latter's team, [[Strong Bad Smiling|Strong Bad]] when he learns that Homestar (almost) cheated and lost, and [[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] throughout.
*Homestar calls Pom Pom [[my dog|his dog]].
*The ball has the exact same design as the one in [[Theme Song Video]], which was also used to play kickball with.
*Coach Z [[Cross-dressing|cross-dresses]] when he claims to be playing women's lacrosse.
**It may also be an instance of [[gender confusion]].
*The Umpire's cancellation of One Potato Two Potato is a reference to Homestar's [[lack of visible arms]].
**Marzipan apparently [[lack of visible body parts|lacks visible legs]] as well.
*Strong Bad refers to Strong Mad as [[Graw Mad]], as he has in many other toons.

===Real-World References===
*The page title is a reference to the [[De La Soul]] song "[[Wikipedia:A Roller Skating Jam Named "Saturdays"|A Roller Skating Jam Named 'Saturdays']]".
*During the coin toss, Homestar calls out "Sonic! I mean, Tails!" This is in reference to the [[Sega]] character [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]], and his sidekick "[[Wikipedia:Miles "Tails" Prower|Tails]]".
*Homestar asks Strong Sad to recite a couplet from [[French]] poet [[Wikipedia:Charles Baudelaire|Charles Baudelaire]].
*The bag of "Cheat-Toes" that The Cheat pulls out is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Cheetos|Cheetos]].
**The bag itself is done in the style of [[Wikipedia:Andy Capp's fries|Andy Capp's Fries]].
*The Umpire mentions basketball player [[Wikipedia:Mookie Blaylock|Mookie Blaylock]].
*When Strong Mad yells "YOU ARE FORGIVEN," it is in reference to [[Wikipedia:The Who|The Who]]'s [[Wikipedia:A Quick One|"A Quick One While He's Away"]] of 1966, being a refrain sung in similar rapturous tones towards the end of that song. This song was also referenced in [[vacation]].
*Homestar's statement that Pom Pom "[has been], and will always be, [his] dog" is possibly a reference to the film [[Wikipedia: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan]], in which Spock tells Kirk "I have been, and always shall be, your friend."




==External Links==
*[[HR:kickball.html|watch "Kick-A-Ball"]]
*[[HR:kickball.swf|view the Flash file for "Kick-A-Ball"]]
*[[forum:15186|forum thread re: "Kick-A-Ball"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Kick-A-Ball

NighttimeDriver50000 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:11:29 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Help!

{{toonnav|Big Toon|kickball|Career Day|2 Part Episode: Part 1}}
[[Image:Kickball.png|thumb|"What perfect teams, huh, guys?"]]

The Even Stevens take on Little Stevie and the Evens in a game of [[Wikipedia:kickball|kickball]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, [[The Umpire]], {{film|The Announcer}}, [[Poms|Tim Tom]], [[Onion Bubs]]

'''Places:''' [[The Athletic Field]], [[Outer Space]], [[Beaches|A Beach]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, March 17, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:24

'''Page Title:''' A Kick-a-ball jam named Saturdays

==Transcript==
''{A kickball juts forward on a musical sting, while "Kick-a Ball!" appears around it. The ball zooms in and its blue texture forms the background. The letters in "The Captains!" fall into place. A red bar with Homestar's face and a green bar with Strong Bad's face appear above and below that, respectively. That disappears and "The Draft!" falls into place. The ball zooms out quickly and lands between Strong Bad and Homestar, standing near the Umpire and a number of other characters.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, gentlemen, dukes up! It's one-potato-two-potato see who gets first pick!

''{Strong Bad leans forward menacingly, holding both arms forward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{growls}''

''{Homestar leans forward too.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as though growling}'' Hmmmm!

''{Crickets chirp for a few moments as nothing happens. The Umpire looks between both characters, particularly where Homestar's hands would be.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ummmmm...

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Ah, right! Sorry! ''{produces a Trogdor-themed coin}'' Coin toss to see who gets first pick!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wait! Why? I love 'tatoes!

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Call it in the air!

''{Strong Bad tosses the coin.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh... Sonic. I mean, Tails!

''{The coin lands tails-up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Yes! Pom Pom, you have been and always will be my dog, but today, I gotta play the strategy card. I'm goin' with Pom Pom.

'''POM POM:''' ''{cocks an eyebrow in confusion, then bubbles and bounces toward Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, get your spotted yellow hinder over here!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{excited The Cheat noise, walks toward Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' YOU CUT ME DEEP! ''{frowns sadly and sobs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let's see, let's see. Who's good in the field? Ooh! I'll take Pom Pom! Surprised he hasn't been snatched up yet!

''{Pom Pom lowers his eyes, annoyed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um, but you just—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stepping toward Strong Bad}'' Ah, ah, ah! Too late! I called 'im! You'll just have to be quicker next time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rolling his head around}'' Ooooooooooooooooooooo... kay. I got Bubs!

''{Bubs walks toward Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT THE CRAP?!

'''POM POM:''' ''{quiet bubbles, leaning toward Homestar's ears}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{whispering}'' Yeah, yeah, good call, he's got a great arm. ''{loudly}'' We'll take Pom Pom!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What a surprise. All right, Graw Mad, get over here.

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{singing happily}'' YOU ARE FORGIVEN!

''{Pom Pom looks on in exasperation as Homestar considers.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, this one's a toughie. But, we gotta go with Pom Pom.

''{Pom Pom lowers his head.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This keeps teetering between hilarious and maybe-we-should-put-him-in-a-home.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...And what wouldn't be hilarious about that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, Poopsmith!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{leaning out from behind Pom Pom}'' Pom Pom! Let's do this!

''{The remaining four characters are shown side by side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Coach Z!

''{Coach Z disappears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll go with Pom Pom.

'''STRONG BAD:''' K.O.T., you're with me.

''{The King of Town disappears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pooooooom!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly, to the side, and disgustedly}'' Marzipan...

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'm sorry, what was that?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{smiling}'' Oh, I think he picked me! ''{starts to walk forward}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I didn't, I picked Marzipan.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{turns back, in the same cheerful tone as the last line}'' Cool!

''{By this point, Pom Pom is lying on the ground in sheer annoyance.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{unintelligible}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, well, well, look who's—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up! You play eighth base!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sounds important!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looking at the now-empty space where the characters were previously standing}'' Ouch! Pom Pom! Picked last?! It's okay. You can be on our team.

''{Cut back to show the eleven characters split among the teams.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What perfect teams, huh, guys? Even Stevens!

''{Cut back to the blue texture on the ball. A red bar with Homestar and Pom Pom appears at the top labeled "the even stevens", and a green bar appears at the bottom with everyone else labeled "vs. little stevie & the evens". The Umpire appears in a circle in the corner.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, kickbaaaall!

''{Cut to the playing field. Pom Pom is winding up to pitch the ball. He looks toward the ball.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

''{He throws the ball. It flies through the air in an extremely improbable whirling motion. Strong Bad, at the plate, attempts to kick it—}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oop... RAAAH!

''{—but misses and falls down with a "whiff!"}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Stee-riiiiike!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, no fair! He was tellin' the ball what to do! It's probably one of his cousins or something!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Are you talkin' about little Tim Tom? He's ''way'' better-looking than that!

''{A kickball rolls across the screen to transition to The Cheat at the plate. He attempts to kick the ball, somehow resulting in both him and the ball flying across the field. He lands just next to first base, but then the ball lands on top of him before he can touch it.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Yer oooooouuuut!

''{Coach Z leans in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{angrily}'' I don't know what kinda low-rent, three-bedroom, two-bath, section 8 sport ''you're'' playin' here, ''{suddenly calmly}'' but I'm playing women's lacrosse. ''{He holds up a lacrosse stick.}''

''{Cut back as Coach Z turns to walk away. He's wearing a pink skirt.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' Ooo-doo-doo-doo-dooooooo...

''{Marzipan steps up to the plate.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, well, well! Look who it is!

''{Marzipan stamps the ground twice in preparation.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You got nothin', sister! You couldn't kick your way out of lookin' at a thing in a bag! Your momma wears combat boots! ''{he pitches the ball}'' Whoop!

'''MARZIPAN:''' She does not!

''{Marzipan kicks with a thick boot and the ball goes flying. Homestar tries to follow its movement but falls over. The King of Town is now at the plate and the ball rolls up to him. He jumps as the ball goes past.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' ''{appearing in a bubble next to the King of Town}'' Stee-rike three, yer out!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sadly}'' Guess I'll go on back to the dugout.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh... that's not what happens when you strike out in kickball.

''{The King of Town is then seen being loaded into a catapult.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I never got my sunflower ''{he's fired from the catapult}'' seeeeeeeeeeeeds!

''{The scoreboard behind him flashes "yer out!" Strong Mad is seen kicking the ball, and it flies over Pom Pom's head, travels around the world, flies over the head of a Pom with identical coloring to the kickball, continues its path, and strikes Strong Mad in the back of the head.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' ''{again appearing in a bubble}'' Yer oooooouuuuut!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{sadly}'' Awwwwww...

''{Following this is a montage where Bubs catches the ball, Homestar kicks the ball, The Poopsmith throws the ball at Pom Pom, and Strong Sad (standing next to a white 8-shaped "base" on the ground) pats his belly, all four making kickball sounds in time with the music. Cut to The Announcer in a booth nearby.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' It all comes down to this! Two outs! Bottom of the ninth! Down by two!

''{Cut to a shot of the scoreboard for a moment showing this. "Home" or "HS" has 127 runs, and "Visitor" or "SB" has 125.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Strong Bad has a chance to win it, right here, right now! It doesn't get more exciting than this!

''{Cut to Onion Bubs sitting next to the BooOOM Box.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{through the radio}'' I have no idea who I'm broadcasting to!

''{Cut to Homestar, holding the ball. The Cheat can be seen on base behind him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Two outs, bottom of the ninth, down by two. Strong Bad has a chance to win it, right here, right now. It doesn't g—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{yelling}'' JUST PITCH THE FREAKIN' BALL!!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Comin' up!

''{He throws the ball. It rolls toward Strong Bad...}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hyaaaah!

''{...and he kicks it! It flies high and far. Strong Mad can be seen on third base, as well as The Cheat on second. Cut to Strong Sad, still standing by "eighth base".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's ''four'' different types of grass I've identified now!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Sad! Why don't you recite your favorite Cartier Baudelaire couplet?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, you mean... ''{He holds out his arms and closes his eyes as he recites.}'' The beige malaise can last for—

''{The kickball lands in Strong Sad's arms. He grabs it, surprised.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oooh!

''{Strong Bad is about to cross home plate, but...}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Yer ooooouuuut! That's the ball game!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the crap?! B-but he's on ''my'' team!

''{Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Au the contrary, Strong Bad. If you'll watch the official tape of the draft, you'll see that Strong Sad is on ''my'' team!

''{Cut to the "REPLAYTRON", replaying the scene where Pom Pom was lying on the ground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{unintelligible}''

''{The scene rewinds.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{The tape slows down immensely. In a low, slow voice, out of the corner of his mouth:}'' And Strong Sad!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, but that's cheating! You cheated! ''{smiles}'' For once, ''you'' cheated, and ''I'' win!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' On the contraire, Strong Bad. If you'll review the official rule book,

''{He produces said book and looks into it. The page reads:

<blockquote>
Official Kick-a Ball Rules 
 
Rule 1. Same rules as 
kickball, except with 
"-a" added. 
AND double side-mouth whisper 
drafts are totally legal! 
signed, the commish 
(not strong bad) 
Rule 2. Striking out results 
in vehement catapultery.
</blockquote>

''{The parts in blue are in Strong Bad's handwriting, and a small picture of a fire-breathing Strong Bad is drawn in the same color next to this.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You'll see that double side-mouth whisper drafts have been quite legal since 1989!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, the ding and the dang! ''{He turns around to look at The Cheat, standing behind him.}'' The Cheat! I told you to check our Cheaters' Almanac to make sure we didn't step on any of our own Cheat-toes!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises, holds up a bag of "CHEAT-TOES".}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, everybody! Line up!

''{Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad stand still, with Homestar inexplicably sad, while Strong Bad, Coach Z, The Cheat, Bubs, Strong Mad, and Marzipan all walk past sadly in turn. Strong Bad's team takes a single step forward one at a time as each visible character says the following simultaneously on each step:}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER and STRONG SAD:''' Good game... ''(etc.)'' 
'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}'' 
'''STRONG BAD, COACH Z, BUBS, STRONG MAD, and MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, right... ''(etc.)'' 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}

''{As they continue forward, The King of Town flies by in the background.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!

''{Cut to a final screen reading "end." The circles inside the E and D, and the period, are all kickballs. "back" is written in the corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the period after "end" (a kickball) to see a scene in the announcer's booth.
:'''THE UMPIRE:''' Honest to God, Mookie Blaylock gave this kickball my aunt, 1984.
:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' I simply cannot express how impressive that kickball is!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*When arguing with the umpire, Coach Z refers to "low rent, three bedroom, two bath, Section 8" sport.
**[[Wikipedia:Section 8 (housing)|Section 8]] is a federal voucher-subsidized housing program in the United States. Rental housing occupied by Section 8 participants is indeed generally low rent.
**It might also refer to a [[Wikipedia:Section 8 (military)|Section 8 military discharge]]. In the TV series [[Wikipedia:M*A*S*H (TV series)|M*A*S*H]], Corporal Klinger tried to obtain one of these by wearing women's clothing, as Coach Z does here.
*One-potato, two-potato is a kind of [[Wikipedia:Counting-out game|counting-out game]].

===Trivia===
*This is the first appearance of the Umpire since [[Where My Hat Is At?]], and his first animated appearance. He was previously scheduled to appear in a 2006 [[Strong Bad Email]] (according to the DVD commentary), but the Brothers Chaps forgot.
*The theme song for this toon is a remixed version of the theme used in [[Weclome Back]].
*This is the first appearance of [[Coach Z]]'s new angry eyes.

===Remarks===
[[Image:Homestarareal.PNG|thumb|200px|Aerial Homestar]]
*Although the Umpire told everyone to line up, The Poopsmith was absent in the final scene.
*Even if Homestar did not repetitively pick Pom Pom, he and Strong Bad would be unable to have equal teams because there are nine (i.e. an odd number) players to choose from.
*Homestar blinks at an excessive and erratic rate after lecturing Strong Bad to be quicker when selecting his players.
*Homestar's mouth does not move to "good game" when he is silhouetted.
*Strong Bad's team is at bat in the bottom of the ninth, even though the scoreboard shows them as the visiting team.
*An aerial view of Homestar can be briefly seen as Strong Bad flips the coin, before the view is obscured by it. Homestar, Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are also [[:File:Kick-a-ball Aerial.png|seen from above]] before Strong Bad's kick.
*During The Cheat's at bat, Homestar appears to be playing both catcher (when The Cheat "kicks") and one of the basemen (when he lands). This could be another example of [[twin characters]].
*When slowed down, Homestar sounds like he's saying "wait," not "and Strong Sad: [[Media:H*RslowKickABall.ogg]]. 

===Inside References===
*[[Trogdor]]'s face (without his consummate V teeth), and tail can be seen on the coin.
*In the Easter egg, the Umpire's conversation with the Announcer about Mookie Blaylock and the kickball closely resembles [[the Grape Fairie]]'s conversation with the Announcer about Mookie Wilson and the [[Golbol]], seen in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Homestar taunts Marzipan, declaring she couldn't kick her way out of [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]].
*All three of [[The Brothers Strong]] smile in this toon - [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]] when Strong Bad picks him for the latter's team, [[Strong Bad Smiling|Strong Bad]] when he learns that Homestar (almost) cheated and lost, and [[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] throughout.
*Homestar calls Pom Pom [[my dog|his dog]].
*The ball has the exact same design as the one in [[Theme Song Video]], which was also used to play kickball with.
*Coach Z [[Cross-dressing|cross-dresses]] when he claims to be playing women's lacrosse.
**It may also be an instance of [[gender confusion]].
*The Umpire's cancellation of One Potato Two Potato is a reference to Homestar's [[lack of visible arms]].
**Marzipan apparently [[lack of visible body parts|lacks visible legs]] as well.
*Strong Bad refers to Strong Mad as [[Graw Mad]], as he has in many other toons.

===Real-World References===
*The page title is a reference to the [[De La Soul]] song "[[Wikipedia:A Roller Skating Jam Named "Saturdays"|A Roller Skating Jam Named 'Saturdays']]".
*During the coin toss, Homestar calls out "Sonic! I mean, Tails!" This is in reference to the [[Sega]] character [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]], and his sidekick "[[Wikipedia:Miles "Tails" Prower|Tails]]".
*Homestar asks Strong Sad to recite a couplet from [[French]] poet [[Wikipedia:Charles Baudelaire|Charles Baudelaire]].
*The bag of "Cheat-Toes" that The Cheat pulls out is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Cheetos|Cheetos]].
**The bag itself is done in the style of [[Wikipedia:Andy Capp's fries|Andy Capp's Fries]].
*The Umpire mentions basketball player [[Wikipedia:Mookie Blaylock|Mookie Blaylock]].
*When Strong Mad yells "YOU ARE FORGIVEN," it is in reference to [[Wikipedia:The Who|The Who]]'s [[Wikipedia:A Quick One|"A Quick One While He's Away"]] of 1966, being a refrain sung in similar rapturous tones towards the end of that song. This song was also referenced in [[vacation]].
*Homestar's statement that Pom Pom "[has been], and will always be, [his] dog" is possibly a reference to the film [[Wikipedia: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan]], in which Spock tells Kirk "I have been, and always shall be, your friend."




==External Links==
*[[HR:kickball.html|watch "Kick-A-Ball"]]
*[[HR:kickball.swf|view the Flash file for "Kick-A-Ball"]]
*[[forum:15186|forum thread re: "Kick-A-Ball"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Kick-A-Ball

NighttimeDriver50000 — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:02:01 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Adding slowed down clip of Homestar.

{{toonnav|Big Toon|kickball|Career Day|2 Part Episode: Part 1}}
[[Image:Kickball.png|thumb|"What perfect teams, huh, guys?"]]

The Even Stevens take on Little Stevie and the Evens in a game of [[Wikipedia:kickball|kickball]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, [[The Umpire]], {{film|The Announcer}}, [[Poms|Tim Tom]], [[Onion Bubs]]

'''Places:''' [[The Athletic Field]], [[Outer Space]], [[Beaches|A Beach]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, March 17, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:24

'''Page Title:''' A Kick-a-ball jam named Saturdays

==Transcript==
''{A kickball juts forward on a musical sting, while "Kick-a Ball!" appears around it. The ball zooms in and its blue texture forms the background. The letters in "The Captains!" fall into place. A red bar with Homestar's face and a green bar with Strong Bad's face appear above and below that, respectively. That disappears and "The Draft!" falls into place. The ball zooms out quickly and lands between Strong Bad and Homestar, standing near the Umpire and a number of other characters.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, gentlemen, dukes up! It's one-potato-two-potato see who gets first pick!

''{Strong Bad leans forward menacingly, holding both arms forward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{growls}''

''{Homestar leans forward too.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as though growling}'' Hmmmm!

''{Crickets chirp for a few moments as nothing happens. The Umpire looks between both characters, particularly where Homestar's hands would be.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ummmmm...

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Ah, right! Sorry! ''{produces a Trogdor-themed coin}'' Coin toss to see who gets first pick!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wait! Why? I love 'tatoes!

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Call it in the air!

''{Strong Bad tosses the coin.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh... Sonic. I mean, Tails!

''{The coin lands tails-up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Yes! Pom Pom, you have been and always will be my dog, but today, I gotta play the strategy card. I'm goin' with Pom Pom.

'''POM POM:''' ''{cocks an eyebrow in confusion, then bubbles and bounces toward Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, get your spotted yellow hinder over here!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{excited The Cheat noise, walks toward Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' YOU CUT ME DEEP! ''{frowns sadly and sobs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let's see, let's see. Who's good in the field? Ooh! I'll take Pom Pom! Surprised he hasn't been snatched up yet!

''{Pom Pom lowers his eyes, annoyed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um, but you just—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stepping toward Strong Bad}'' Ah, ah, ah! Too late! I called 'im! You'll just have to be quicker next time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rolling his head around}'' Ooooooooooooooooooooo... kay. I got Bubs!

''{Bubs walks toward Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT THE CRAP?!

'''POM POM:''' ''{quiet bubbles, leaning toward Homestar's ears}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{whispering}'' Yeah, yeah, good call, he's got a great arm. ''{loudly}'' We'll take Pom Pom!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What a surprise. All right, Graw Mad, get over here.

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{singing happily}'' YOU ARE FORGIVEN!

''{Pom Pom looks on in exasperation as Homestar considers.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, this one's a toughie. But, we gotta go with Pom Pom.

''{Pom Pom lowers his head.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This keeps teetering between hilarious and maybe-we-should-put-him-in-a-home.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...And what wouldn't be hilarious about that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, Poopsmith!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{leaning out from behind Pom Pom}'' Pom Pom! Let's do this!

''{The remaining four characters are shown side by side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Coach Z!

''{Coach Z disappears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll go with Pom Pom.

'''STRONG BAD:''' K.O.T., you're with me.

''{The King of Town disappears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pooooooom!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly, to the side, and disgustedly}'' Marzipan...

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'm sorry, what was that?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{smiling}'' Oh, I think he picked me! ''{starts to walk forward}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I didn't, I picked Marzipan.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{turns back, in the same cheerful tone as the last line}'' Cool!

''{By this point, Pom Pom is lying on the ground in sheer annoyance.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{unintelligible}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, well, well, look who's—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up! You play eighth base!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sounds important!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looking at the now-empty space where the characters were previously standing}'' Ouch! Pom Pom! Picked last?! It's okay. You can be on our team.

''{Cut back to show the eleven characters split among the teams.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What perfect teams, huh, guys? Even Stevens!

''{Cut back to the blue texture on the ball. A red bar with Homestar and Pom Pom appears at the top labeled "the even stevens", and a green bar appears at the bottom with everyone else labeled "vs. little stevie & the evens". The Umpire appears in a circle in the corner.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, kickbaaaall!

''{Cut to the playing field. Pom Pom is winding up to pitch the ball. He looks toward the ball.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

''{He throws the ball. It flies through the air in an extremely improbable whirling motion. Strong Bad, at the plate, attempts to kick it—}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oop... RAAAH!

''{—but misses and falls down with a "whiff!"}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Stee-riiiiike!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, no fair! He was tellin' the ball what to do! It's probably one of his cousins or something!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Are you talkin' about little Tim Tom? He's ''way'' better-looking than that!

''{A kickball rolls across the screen to transition to The Cheat at the plate. He attempts to kick the ball, somehow resulting in both him and the ball flying across the field. He lands just next to first base, but then the ball lands on top of him before he can touch it.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Yer oooooouuuut!

''{Coach Z leans in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{angrily}'' I don't know what kinda low-rent, three-bedroom, two-bath, section 8 sport ''you're'' playin' here, ''{suddenly calmly}'' but I'm playing women's lacrosse. ''{He holds up a lacrosse stick.}''

''{Cut back as Coach Z turns to walk away. He's wearing a pink skirt.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' Ooo-doo-doo-doo-dooooooo...

''{Marzipan steps up to the plate.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, well, well! Look who it is!

''{Marzipan stamps the ground twice in preparation.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You got nothin', sister! You couldn't kick your way out of lookin' at a thing in a bag! Your momma wears combat boots! ''{he pitches the ball}'' Whoop!

'''MARZIPAN:''' She does not!

''{Marzipan kicks with a thick boot and the ball goes flying. Homestar tries to follow its movement but falls over. The King of Town is now at the plate and the ball rolls up to him. He jumps as the ball goes past.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' ''{appearing in a bubble next to the King of Town}'' Stee-rike three, yer out!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sadly}'' Guess I'll go on back to the dugout.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh... that's not what happens when you strike out in kickball.

''{The King of Town is then seen being loaded into a catapult.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I never got my sunflower ''{he's fired from the catapult}'' seeeeeeeeeeeeds!

''{The scoreboard behind him flashes "yer out!" Strong Mad is seen kicking the ball, and it flies over Pom Pom's head, travels around the world, flies over the head of a Pom with identical coloring to the kickball, continues its path, and strikes Strong Mad in the back of the head.}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' ''{again appearing in a bubble}'' Yer oooooouuuuut!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{sadly}'' Awwwwww...

''{Following this is a montage where Bubs catches the ball, Homestar kicks the ball, The Poopsmith throws the ball at Pom Pom, and Strong Sad (standing next to a white 8-shaped "base" on the ground) pats his belly, all four making kickball sounds in time with the music. Cut to The Announcer in a booth nearby.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' It all comes down to this! Two outs! Bottom of the ninth! Down by two!

''{Cut to a shot of the scoreboard for a moment showing this. "Home" or "HS" has 127 runs, and "Visitor" or "SB" has 125.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Strong Bad has a chance to win it, right here, right now! It doesn't get more exciting than this!

''{Cut to Onion Bubs sitting next to the BooOOM Box.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{through the radio}'' I have no idea who I'm broadcasting to!

''{Cut to Homestar, holding the ball. The Cheat can be seen on base behind him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Two outs, bottom of the ninth, down by two. Strong Bad has a chance to win it, right here, right now. It doesn't g—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{yelling}'' JUST PITCH THE FREAKIN' BALL!!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Comin' up!

''{He throws the ball. It rolls toward Strong Bad...}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hyaaaah!

''{...and he kicks it! It flies high and far. Strong Mad can be seen on third base, as well as The Cheat on second. Cut to Strong Sad, still standing by "eighth base".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's ''four'' different types of grass I've identified now!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Sad! Why don't you recite your favorite Cartier Baudelaire couplet?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, you mean... ''{He holds out his arms and closes his eyes as he recites.}'' The beige malaise can last for—

''{The kickball lands in Strong Sad's arms. He grabs it, surprised.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oooh!

''{Strong Bad is about to cross home plate, but...}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' Yer ooooouuuut! That's the ball game!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the crap?! B-but he's on ''my'' team!

''{Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Au the contrary, Strong Bad. If you'll watch the official tape of the draft, you'll see that Strong Sad is on ''my'' team!

''{Cut to the "REPLAYTRON", replaying the scene where Pom Pom was lying on the ground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{unintelligible}''

''{The scene rewinds.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom! Bullpen! ''{The tape slows down immensely. In a low, slow voice, out of the corner of his mouth:}'' And Strong Sad!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, but that's cheating! You cheated! ''{smiles}'' For once, ''you'' cheated, and ''I'' win!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' On the contraire, Strong Bad. If you'll review the official rule book,

''{He produces said book and looks into it. The page reads:

<blockquote>
Official Kick-a Ball Rules 
 
Rule 1. Same rules as 
kickball, except with 
"-a" added. 
AND double side-mouth whisper 
drafts are totally legal! 
signed, the commish 
(not strong bad) 
Rule 2. Striking out results 
in vehement catapultery.
</blockquote>

''{The parts in blue are in Strong Bad's handwriting, and a small picture of a fire-breathing Strong Bad is drawn in the same color next to this.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You'll see that double side-mouth whisper drafts have been quite legal since 1989!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, the ding and the dang! ''{He turns around to look at The Cheat, standing behind him.}'' The Cheat! I told you to check our Cheaters' Almanac to make sure we didn't step on any of our own Cheat-toes!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises, holds up a bag of "CHEAT-TOES".}''

'''THE UMPIRE:''' All right, everybody! Line up!

''{Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad stand still, with Homestar inexplicably sad, while Strong Bad, Coach Z, The Cheat, Bubs, Strong Mad, and Marzipan all walk past sadly in turn. Strong Bad's team takes a single step forward one at a time as each visible character says the following simultaneously on each step:}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER and STRONG SAD:''' Good game... ''(etc.)'' 
'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}'' 
'''STRONG BAD, COACH Z, BUBS, STRONG MAD, and MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, right... ''(etc.)'' 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}

''{As they continue forward, The King of Town flies by in the background.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!

''{Cut to a final screen reading "end." The circles inside the E and D, and the period, are all kickballs. "back" is written in the corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the period after "end" (a kickball) to see a scene in the announcer's booth.
:'''THE UMPIRE:''' Honest to God, Mookie Blaylock gave this kickball my aunt, 1984.
:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' I simply cannot express how impressive that kickball is!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*When arguing with the umpire, Coach Z refers to "low rent, three bedroom, two bath, Section 8" sport.
**[[Wikipedia:Section 8 (housing)|Section 8]] is a federal voucher-subsidized housing program in the United States. Rental housing occupied by Section 8 participants is indeed generally low rent.
**It might also refer to a [[Wikipedia:Section 8 (military)|Section 8 military discharge]]. In the TV series [[Wikipedia:M*A*S*H (TV series)|M*A*S*H]], Corporal Klinger tried to obtain one of these by wearing women's clothing, as Coach Z does here.
*One-potato, two-potato is a kind of [[Wikipedia:Counting-out game|counting-out game]].

===Trivia===
*This is the first appearance of the Umpire since [[Where My Hat Is At?]], and his first animated appearance. He was previously scheduled to appear in a 2006 [[Strong Bad Email]] (according to the DVD commentary), but the Brothers Chaps forgot.
*The theme song for this toon is a remixed version of the theme used in [[Weclome Back]].
*This is the first appearance of [[Coach Z]]'s new angry eyes.

===Remarks===
[[Image:Homestarareal.PNG|thumb|200px|Aerial Homestar]]
*Although the Umpire told everyone to line up, The Poopsmith was absent in the final scene.
*Even if Homestar did not repetitively pick Pom Pom, he and Strong Bad would be unable to have equal teams because there are nine (i.e. an odd number) players to choose from.
*Homestar blinks at an excessive and erratic rate after lecturing Strong Bad to be quicker when selecting his players.
*Homestar's mouth does not move to "good game" when he is silhouetted.
*Strong Bad's team is at bat in the bottom of the ninth, even though the scoreboard shows them as the visiting team.
*An aerial view of Homestar can be briefly seen as Strong Bad flips the coin, before the view is obscured by it. Homestar, Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are also [[:File:Kick-a-ball Aerial.png|seen from above]] before Strong Bad's kick.
*During The Cheat's at bat, Homestar appears to be playing both catcher (when The Cheat "kicks") and one of the basemen (when he lands). This could be another example of [[twin characters]].
*When slowed down, Homestar sounds like he's saying "wait," not "and Strong Sad: [[Media:H*RslowKickABall.ogg]]

===Inside References===
*[[Trogdor]]'s face (without his consummate V teeth), and tail can be seen on the coin.
*In the Easter egg, the Umpire's conversation with the Announcer about Mookie Blaylock and the kickball closely resembles [[the Grape Fairie]]'s conversation with the Announcer about Mookie Wilson and the [[Golbol]], seen in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Homestar taunts Marzipan, declaring she couldn't kick her way out of [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]].
*All three of [[The Brothers Strong]] smile in this toon - [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]] when Strong Bad picks him for the latter's team, [[Strong Bad Smiling|Strong Bad]] when he learns that Homestar (almost) cheated and lost, and [[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] throughout.
*Homestar calls Pom Pom [[my dog|his dog]].
*The ball has the exact same design as the one in [[Theme Song Video]], which was also used to play kickball with.
*Coach Z [[Cross-dressing|cross-dresses]] when he claims to be playing women's lacrosse.
**It may also be an instance of [[gender confusion]].
*The Umpire's cancellation of One Potato Two Potato is a reference to Homestar's [[lack of visible arms]].
**Marzipan apparently [[lack of visible body parts|lacks visible legs]] as well.
*Strong Bad refers to Strong Mad as [[Graw Mad]], as he has in many other toons.

===Real-World References===
*The page title is a reference to the [[De La Soul]] song "[[Wikipedia:A Roller Skating Jam Named "Saturdays"|A Roller Skating Jam Named 'Saturdays']]".
*During the coin toss, Homestar calls out "Sonic! I mean, Tails!" This is in reference to the [[Sega]] character [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]], and his sidekick "[[Wikipedia:Miles "Tails" Prower|Tails]]".
*Homestar asks Strong Sad to recite a couplet from [[French]] poet [[Wikipedia:Charles Baudelaire|Charles Baudelaire]].
*The bag of "Cheat-Toes" that The Cheat pulls out is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Cheetos|Cheetos]].
**The bag itself is done in the style of [[Wikipedia:Andy Capp's fries|Andy Capp's Fries]].
*The Umpire mentions basketball player [[Wikipedia:Mookie Blaylock|Mookie Blaylock]].
*When Strong Mad yells "YOU ARE FORGIVEN," it is in reference to [[Wikipedia:The Who|The Who]]'s [[Wikipedia:A Quick One|"A Quick One While He's Away"]] of 1966, being a refrain sung in similar rapturous tones towards the end of that song. This song was also referenced in [[vacation]].
*Homestar's statement that Pom Pom "[has been], and will always be, [his] dog" is possibly a reference to the film [[Wikipedia: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan]], in which Spock tells Kirk "I have been, and always shall be, your friend."




==External Links==
*[[HR:kickball.html|watch "Kick-A-Ball"]]
*[[HR:kickball.swf|view the Flash file for "Kick-A-Ball"]]
*[[forum:15186|forum thread re: "Kick-A-Ball"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

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NighttimeDriver50000: Homestar from kick a ball when he supposedly said "and strong sad" slowed down to almost double its length.

== Summary ==
Homestar from kick a ball when he supposedly said "and strong sad" slowed down to almost double its length.
== Licensing ==
{{web-soundclip}}

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Talk:Main Page

NighttimeDriver50000 — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 04:33:55 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /**/Stuttering? Stammering?

{{Main Page Talk}}

== New... Game soon? ==

[[Telltale Games]] has just released a new teaser trailer for an upcoming game to be announced on 02 Sept:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-untitled-telltale/703720?type=flv

A silhouette of [[Strong Bad]] can be clearly seen. Stay tuned for info... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

:Huh. That explains a lot. I guess we only have to wait four days for more info, if not the full game. At the end it said 9-2-2010, so... Thursday. We should finally see what's been going on Thurday. For now, the question remains: who are the other three he was posing with? One was definitely Max the rabbit, and another might have been Sam, from the same game. That leaves... The Heavy Weapons Guy from Team Fortress? Who knows? Anyway, let's check back next Thursday and see what all the commotion is up to.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 00:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
::According to Kotaku, from left to right it's one of the guys from [http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Penny Arcade], Max from Sam & Max, Heavy from Team Fortress 2, and, of course, [[Strong Bad]]. Based on the silhouette, there's been rumors that it's just a sequel to Telltale's poker game. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Not to turn this into a forumy-style post, but the [http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18930 TellTale forum] people have mainly decided that the four are Thycho from Penny Arcade, Max from Sam&Max, Heavy from Team Fortress Two,  and Strong Bad from, well, duh. Since two of them are holding cards, it's speculated that it's a TellTale Texas Hold'em sequel. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 00:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Hey, maybe after the game comes out this long period of inactivity will finally end! One can only hope.... [[Special:Contributions/71.29.168.29|71.29.168.29]] 21:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
==did it die==
lets face it, there has been no updates in months. whats going on over there. did they just stop or are they working that hard on poker night at the inventory? please whats going on with our dear website that we worship?
:TBC have been working on a few projects (baby, Poker Night at the Inventory, Jim Henson movie), so I would just be patient. They've hinted numerous times that they're not done yet. Also, this kind of thing should be posted in the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 01:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
::Jim Henson movie? Whats that? {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Yessir. [http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEMOaRPMDPdJQV Here's the link]. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 03:17, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Do we have a "Experience the Fury of..." page? ==

It's a "phrase running gag" I believe, since it's been in more than one toon. [[Special:Contributions/71.87.114.122|71.87.114.122]] 17:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Our policies say it has to be in at least three toons to merit a page. Honestly, that's one i've looked for too. Right now it is in two: [[theme park]] (thrice) and [[boring (really)]] (which i think was a direct reference back to theme park). The way I understand it, it would need to be in a third toon before we could create a page on it. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::See also: [[Talk:Experience the fury of]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, we used to have a page of it. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 08:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== jayisgames mention ==

The website jayisgames.com has posted Peasants Quest on their front page as one of their "gems from the vault." I wasn't sure if this was frontpage worthy or not.
--[[User:Shaggy|Shaggy]] | [[User talk:Shaggy|talk]] 07:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:It wouldn't go on the main page, but a section in [[Website Sightings]] would be a good place. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:26, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
--Gotcha. I also noticed that on the games review page someone links to the walkthrough on hrwiki.--[[User:Shaggy|Shaggy]] | [[User talk:Shaggy|talk]] 07:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect for <Article Name>s? ==

Just wondering, how do we do a no-pipe redirect again? for articles that we need to redirect from <ArticleName>s to just <ArticleName>. (Without using Move feature) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:Do you mean like this?
:<pre><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[</nowiki>''name of the target page''<nowiki>]]</nowiki></pre>
:{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 17:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
::You don't need to manually create redirects for this... if the page name is "<something>s", and you make a link to <code><nowiki>[[<something>]]</nowiki></code> then the [[HRW:Autopipe|autopipe]] will handle it, and for vice-versa, if the page name is "<something>" and you want to make a link labelled "<something>s", then you can just use <code><nowiki>[[<something>]]s</nowiki></code>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:28, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Nevermind! I misunderstood the question. What he said. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 21:32, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Apparently, the MediaWiki over at Aeria Games doesn't have autopipe :( So how do we do it then? For exa, when someone searches for [http://wiki.aeriagames.com/kitsusaga/index.php?title=Sharptooth_Stone_Ant Sharptooth Stone Ants], they get a search results page, rather than the page linked here. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 19:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

== In the "browse the knowledge base" thingy... ==

Should we have a link to [[The Brothers Chaps]] somewhere in the "browse the knowledge base" section on the Main Page? (most likely "miscellany") {{User: Power Pie/sig}}
:Sure, that's not a bad idea. Maybe for the name of the link, "Real Life People"? [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 14 October 2010

== Special pages ==

Special pages like [[Special:Ancientpages|Ancient Pages]] and [[Special:Popularpages|Popular Pages]] only show mainspace articles. Is there a way of making them show articles from a different namespace? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 00:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:I don't believe there's a way to do so in MediaWiki without being an admin, if even at all. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 19:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

== Halloween: Make it or break it? ==

Anyone else think that if the Brothers Chaps are gonna make a new cartoon this year it has to be for Halloween? {{unsigned|88.193.42.92|13:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)}}
:This kind of discussion would be better suited for the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 14:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
::Though perhaps also better suited for the forum, I would just like to point out that TBC have put out a Halloween toon every single year since the year 2000, they've done [[Punkin Stencils]] every year since 2003, and [[Fan Costumes]] every year since 2003 (with one exception in 2004). Anyway, here's hoping! {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Speculation 2 ==
I know I proposed this idea in March and it got shot down, but I really feel we need to make a HR Wiki speculation page. The discussion above is happening way too often. We really need to get this thing off our chests. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 22 October 2010
:I don't really think there needs to be a speculation page, since we have a forum for that purpose. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 02:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::Is there a page that addresses the hiatus? [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 11:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I understand your point DENNIS, but while most users understand that, it's the anonymous/new users that really need to be addressed. I think it's a rising issue that really needs to be addressed. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 23 October 2010
::::What exactly is the difference between saying "Take it to the forum!" and "Take it to the speculation page!"? {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 18:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I agree with Strong Awesome. There is no difference, and that's why there is a forum. We don't need pages like that on a '''Knowledge''' base. A Forum is a Forum, and there's nothing wrong with it. --{{User:Record307/sig}} 21:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I see all of your points. I understand we have a forum, and that's where people speculate as much as they please. But here's the main problem: people don't know that. We are wasting our time going on each and every time it's mentioned and say, "I think this is for the forum." I understand that many people really don't see the point, but here's my main question: isn't it starting to get on people's nerves? [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 24 October 2010
:::::::StrongAwesome74 and Record307 make a good point though: creating a speculation page would only change where we tell them to go. So, for example, when an anon posts in the Main Page Talk "Hey guys. I bet we're gonna get a punkin stencils this year" or something similar, instead of telling them to take it to the forum, we'd be telling them to take it to the speculation page. New users simply won't know where to go either way. And like Record307 said, it would also bring up the problem of putting non-factual things in a knowledge base dedicated to facts. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 12:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::An article on speculation isn't going to happen. Our articles are strictly for factual content. It's not going to solve any problems, anyway, since people are going to keep posting speculation on our talk pages no matter what we do. Making a speculation page isn't going to solve that problem any more than the forum does. Making notes telling people "take it to the forum" is an inevitable part of our existence here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree we don't need (and shouldn't have) a speculation page. What we need is a page that presents the known facts of the hiatus, which (let's face it) is a pretty huge event in HR history. Facts may be few, but they're in no way absent -- we know when it began, what the brothers said about it, what little has been released during the break, and a little about other projects with which they're involved. Even if it's short, it'll at least be someplace that people interested in the subject can go to see ''what's known for sure''. Then if they want to speculate, they can take it elsewhere. [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 14:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
I fully see all of your points now. I just thought it might help get this stuff off. Sorry... [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 24 October 2010
:There's no need to be sorry, as you have nothing to be sorry about. It was a valid suggestion. {{User:DENNIS/sig}} 01:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Hiatus page ==
I just posed the question above, but decided it's probably better as its own section. Does the HR Wiki have an article about the hiatus? If it does, I wasn't able to find it. If it doesn't, I suggest that one should be created. [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 11:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:No it does not. But yes, I'd also like such an article to be created. This hiatus has gone on for a long time now, and has annoyed many fans (myself included), not so much the hiatus, but the fact that they gave no explanation about it. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::I may create one then, or at least the stub of one that can be further expanded. Given that there have been occasional (though much shorter) hiatuses in the past, I wonder what an appropriate title for the article would be? ''Hiatus of 2009-2010''? (I trust it won't soon need to be renamed ''Hiatus of 2009-2011''...) [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 13:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:::After careful deliberation, I agree. This is not just a delay. This was the longest break in Homestar Runner history, a fan crisis, and a long period of uncertainty. That, and it was likely a time where they had [[Poker Night At The Inventory|other things]] in mind. Yes, this is relevant. Perhaps as a supplementary page for Poker Night, but either way, this page has my support.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 22:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::::So, what do you think should be on that page? "There's been a long hiatus from November 2009 to the present (with a brief interruption around April Fool's 2010)."? That's not really going to make it for an article, and that's really about all there is to say about this. We don't know why the hiatus occurred (other than the baby), and airing our complaints (which is the main thing that's been written about the hiatus thus far) is not an acceptable use of our articles. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 13:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::No one is suggesting that the page will be an airing of complaints. My thought is that the page could be about the brothers' hiatuses in general, including sections both on the earlier nine-month one and on the current ongoing absence. Certainly there's not a ''lot'' known for sure, but what little is known can at least be presented there for those who are interested (and seemingly a lot of people are). Further information can then be added as it becomes available. Also, the fact that there's not volumes of material to include certainly shouldn't be a limiting factor -- we already have scores of pages that treat subjects very briefly (e.g., [[Russ T.]]).
:::::As to whether it merits having its own article... If I understand correctly, one can usually decide if it's appropriate for a subject to have its own article by first determining if it has both relevance and significance. The hiatus meets both criteria in spades. Is there any reason why it should be considered either an insignificant or an irrelevant event in the world of HR? Personally I'd say it's quite the reverse: at the moment it's arguably the ''most'' significant and relevant HR subject, one that bears on the very existence and future of HR and is on the mind of practically every fan. It merits an article. [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 14:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Articles are about content, though. The idea of an article about a lack of content doesn't seem terribly convincing to me. Of course, you're free to try, but don't be surprised if it's TBD'd. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not opposed to a hiatus article in theory, but I agree with Heim that there really isn't much to say. But, who knows, maybe there is. At this point, I think the only way for us to know one way or the other is for someone to make the article and see if it has legs to stand on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I've made a [[User:StrongAwesome74/Hiatus|rough draft]] of such a page. If anyone wants to add more, please do so. Obviously, i also think a Hiatus page would be a good idea. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 17:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Good start, SA74! I like that it's entitled simply ''Hiatus'', since that can be both the singular and the plural form of the word (something I didn't know until recently). One thing I'd suggest that I think would strengthen the page would be to have at least two sections: one for the brothers' earlier nine-month hiatus and one for the current one. Then the page is about their breaks in general, and covers more material/content. I'll see what I can contribute. [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 18:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT:'''I made a few edits to said draft. I have to say, this article could have merit, but I still have a few problems. The way it is written now doesn't sound very encyclopedic. It sounds more like a high school essay. Also, there's a point where enough is enough. As Elcool said in [[Talk:Ron Planet]], we're a Homestar Runner wiki, not a Brothers Chaps wiki. We should stick to in-universe issues and what they choose to publish about themselves, and not do too much digging into their personal lives. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::I've done some rewording and have started to add some additional bits and pieces. I agree that the wiki is about HR, and in that spirit I think that addressing the year-long absence of significant material to HR is entirely pertinent. As it stands now it doesn't really speculate about anything, and just cites the brothers' own freely-made statements, as well as other publicly available information about their projects. Obviously some mention of the brothers has to be made, but I don't think it's at all prying. [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 19:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Needs expansion. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 23:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The way it's going now, it looks like it'll just turn into a clone of [[Acknowledged Update Delays]] but with less information. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:Remember me? I used to come on this wiki before there were no edits to be made. I feel that this proposed article may not be too good of an idea to create right now because, in my opinion, it does wouldn't look too great to write an article about a hiatus and not be able to place an end date anywhere on it. A hiatus is not a hiatus unless updates resume at some point. At this point, there is no way of knowing for sure whether or not there will ever be any new updates. But if the updates resume, I think this article would be a great idea to write! {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 02:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
::Interesting point. I think it's being considered a hiatus (rather than a complete termination) because of the brothers' own statements, which suggest that HR will indeed return. [[User:Huwmanbeing|Huw]] 12:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:::At this point, I don't think Homestar Runner will return. </opinion> But seriously though, I agree with Dan completely. There's no way we could separate [[Acknowledged Update Delays|these]] [[User:StrongAwesome74/Hiatus|two]] pages with any sort of pact or trofessionalism. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 20:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I really like the idea, as I feel this hiatus is an important part of HR history. But I have to agree with DeFender1031, I'm afraid when this whole thing is over this is just going to become a clone of AUD. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 26 October 2010
:::::I concede. I would suggest creating a new section on AUD, but that may be overkill. Seeing how our rough draft is more or less finished, and still is lacking, maybe we should merge them.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 01:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Actually, the two are vastly different. AUD talks about instances when TBC have acknowledged the fact that they have not updated the site in a long time within the context of a cartoon. The hiatus has not been acknowledged in an update to the main site (Feedburner and wikileaks aside). This hiatus is significant because it has been significantly longer than any other, and it has caused a lot of doubt amongst the fanbase. It deserves its own article. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Since the article has actually been made, perhaps it would be best to discuss it there instead. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Great Idea!! ==

I have a great idea for the Wiki! We should have friends. It would be like Facebook. A user could send a friend request and you can either accept or ignore it. Thoughts? {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 23:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:NOT#HRWiki_is_not_a_social_network|HRWiki is not a social network]], and doing this would promote the idea that we are. I don't agree with doing this. You can already say who your on-wiki friends are on your userpage, anyway. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:32, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

== Archiving the Changing Username page ==

I recently archived the requests on [[HRWiki:Changing username]], but reverted myself because I'm not sure if normal users are allowed to archive that page. Are they? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 07:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Sadly ==

It doesn't look like the brothers chaps will be releasing a Halloween Toon this year. That game they're making must be taking up all their time.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
:[http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Forum.] {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

== Poker Night at the Inventory ==

Recently, a [[User:Guybrush20X6|user]] or two has been adding [[Poker Night at the Inventory]] to many of our pages, and personally, I disagree with this. This game isn't made or endorsed by the Chapman Brothers in any way, except for the fact that it has Strong Bad in it. If they actually made this game or Strong Bad had [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People|the leading role]], that would be one thing. But a minor appearance doesn't warrant being counted on pages as a reference, in my opinion. Any [[Wikipedia:Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney|objections]]? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 11:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:I think we should. I mean this wiki known for it's disturbing comprihensiveness and as long as we don't start adding irrelevent things form the other characters series (Like adding "All characters in Team Fortress 2 use guns" to the [[gun]] page) I think it should be fine. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 12:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think that only things that strong bad says or does in that game are relevant. Entries like "Strong Bad plays poker with characters from other games." on [[Gambling]] are fine. Entries like "At one point Heavy says: "Beat me once, shame on me. Beat me twice, also shame on me. Beat me three times, I am sent to my death." on [[Death]] and "The Pac-Man watch that Tycho wagers is blood stained due to the rather bloody fights he and Gabe had over it." on [[Blood]] are not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:::How about a comprise? We keep the entry on cool shades and we can remove the others until the game is released and if strong Bad in particular mentions them we can add them back in. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 12:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::::That's more of a compromise than what I suggest. I went through the links to the page, and of them, the only ones I find problematic are [[Guns]], [[Death]], and [[Blood]], as they have nothing to do with SB and aren't TBC's reference. For example, [[Big Butts]] seems to be a perfectly valid reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ok then that sounds fair. Do you wanna revert them or should I?[[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 12:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Whoever, really. [[Wikipedia:Bohemian Rhapsody|It doesn't really matter]] to me. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 20:31, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

==Crossover policies?==
With the impending release of Poker Night at the Inventory, I think we need to define a proper wiki policy on how we deal with crossovers. Do we write about them as a whole or just the parts involving Homestar Runner characters? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 14:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:The latter. It's worked for [http://www.mariowiki.com Super Mario Wiki], it should work for us. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 20:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::Definitely the latter. Poker Night isn't just a one off thing. We're talking about some three-dimensional interactions between our beloved luchador and three other, rounded characaters. We can't just brush this off as "out of scope". Our policies of crossovers have been outdated. We need a new one. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 21:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Of course at the other end of the scale is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl Bulbapedia's] pages which only give token mention to the non-pokemon elements of Smash Bros. If we are giong to do it SMW style we would have to give Max, Heavy and Tycho there own pages detailing how they interact with SB. Of course I may be getting a bit ahead of myself here. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 22:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm not following this conversation very well. I strongly suspect some of you are saying "latter" when you mean "former", but I'm not sure. To help me out, I think you should clarify your positions using fuller sentences. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::In my opinion, we should cover stuff with the other characters just on the poker night page. No need for every other character to have their own page. {{User:Nova Scotia/sig}} 03:15, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

::::::When [[They Might Be Giants]] did crossover work with Homestar, we talked about them in one sentence. When [[Y-O-U]] worked with TBC, we gave them a pity paragraph. I say we cover mostly the stuff dealing with the Homestar Runner universe, meaning when we do response transcripts, we should only transcribe what Strong Bad says. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::: Should we have an offical policy page or just use our own judgment? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 18:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Hmmm... yes, a policy page might work. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

==forum==
there is a problem, nobody who uses the forum knows about the wiki and vica versa we need more integration perhaps move the forum link from externals to navagation for starters, ideas?
:But Navigation is for pages that are on this wiki and External Links is for other sites (which the forum is). As for people at the forum "not knowing about the wiki and vica [sic] versa", I think many people at the forum know very well about the wiki and vice versa. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 21:32, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

==Shades==

Has String Bod ever worn the Shutter shades? {{unsigned|Muttbrain|02:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)}}
:Erm, who?
:Well, ''Strong Bad'' [[Cool Shades|hasn't ever]] worn them. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:08, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
::Strong Bad is seen as putting them in as collateral in the trailer for Poker Night at the Inventory, though. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 17 November 2010

==Poker Night at the Inventory Wiki==
I set up a "Poker Night at the Inventory" Wiki and I need the help of more experianced wiki people to help it develop. Here's the link [http://theinventory.wikia.com/wiki/Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory_Wiki] Strong Bad's page needs some help definettly. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 14:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:Sadly, Wikia is severely limited, among other differences from full-blown MediaWiki sites (Different code usage, etc. even.) People who are used to editing MediaWiki all the time may not feel at home when editing such remotely hosted "wiki" sites that don't even use normal wikicode. Just saying. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 11:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
::I know Wikia is currently a cluster[BADWORD] but if this takes off maybe I can find some other server to put it on and switch it to MediaWiki code. I'm not going to get that far if I can't get the dialogue section finished at the very least so if you think you can add to it please do. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 11:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Consider me in. I'm experienced with Wikia and PMWiki, having been a Tvtroper for the past year. Beyond some difficulties inexperienced users to Wikia may face tranlating our code to their code, I think this is a good idea. My Wikia username is Master Chump, if anyone is wondering. I'll provide all the help I can. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 15:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== Store Update: New Calendar ==

It's on the main page button, so you might as well update the template (As I don't think I will.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:50, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article (DNA Evidence) Typo ==

"...who admits that was the one that carried..." - the word HE is omitted.
:Fixed. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:39, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

== SBCG4AP Coming to PS3 ==

Here's the [http://www.gamespot.com/news/6285034.html article]. Also says it will be coming to Macs, but I think that was known already. --[[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 03:34, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
: Combolations Elizagerth. If you help me cut this to the forum, I'd be lucky. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 23:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
::How exactly is this forum related? This is news worthy of being put on the [[SBCG4AP]] page. Its not speculation or anything, its fact. Its already been added anyway, but this is in no way something that should be dismissed as forum-chat. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 21:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Message ==

Earlier this year, it was [http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_37#Edit_shortage suggested] that there be a site notice that asks people to give their opinion on deletion discussions. Should we put up such a message? Not only will this help clean out the Articles for Discussion category, which some pages have been in for over a year, but it may also boost the wiki's edit count, which is quite low these days (that was also pointed out in that discussion). And on a partially related note, is the fundraising drive still going? 'Cause autumn (spring where I live) is over. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:13, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. We may or may not change the name, but the fundraising drive will be going on for the foreseeable future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:I don't really see boosting the edit count as that important, but seeing as a lot of those articles have been in the category for a while, we should do ''something'' to garner attention. Not sure what, though. {{User:Power Pie/sig}} 20:01, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

== well the brothers Chaps have returned ==

good to know they have returned ey?

cheers
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think we are all happy about that! :) {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== Wiki image ==
I noticed the Homestar image in the top left corner (of every page) is just a gif, and a high quality one at that. It's over a megabyte. That's a GB of bandwidth for every thousand people who have to download that gif when they visit the site. I dunno, considering you guys are always asking for donations to help pay for the server, it seems like you could be cutting down a bit by replacing that gif with a light-weight SWF or something. --[[Special:Contributions/184.56.45.155|184.56.45.155]] 03:36, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Normally it's a [{{SERVER}}{{SCRIPTPATH}}/skins/common/images/wiki-kb.gif small image]. We only use the larger one for a week or two at Decemberween time. We monitored our bandwidth last year and, while it did increase noticeably, it was only a fraction of our overall usage. Besides, we have unlimited bandwidth in our current setup, and it was over a year since our previous fundraiser. Not that a SWF is a bad idea, if only because it would give us more flexibility. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

''See also [[User talk:It's dot com#New Logo|User talk:It's dot com → New Logo]]''

== Stuttering? Stammering? ==

Does anyone else think that we should have a page on characters stuttering/stammering? {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 04:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Which Ween Costumes? Costumes

NighttimeDriver50000 — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 03:42:19 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Adding Decemberween nav

[[Halloween Costumes|Costumes]] that the characters wore in [[Which Ween Costumes?]], Halloween/Decemberween 2010.

{| class="wikitable"

! Image !! Character !! Costume !! Explanation !! External Links

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| [[File:Bubs_as_Dead_Guy_from_Die_Hard.png|125px]]|| [[Bubs]] || Dead Guy from Die Hard || The dead guy Bruce Willis writes on and sends down to the bad guys in ''Die Hard''. || [[wikipedia:Die Hard|Wikipedia article]]

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| [[File:KOT_as_Heat_Meiser.PNG|125px]] || [[The King of Town]] || Heat Miser || The Heat Miser is a character from the [[stop motion]] animated film ''A Year Without a Santa Claus''. || [[Wikipedia:Heat Miser|Wikipedia article]]

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| [[File:Strong_Mad_as_Abominable_Snowman.png|125px]]|| [[Strong Mad]] || The Abominable Snowman || Bumble, the Abominable Snowman, is a character from the Rankin/Bass stop-motion animated film ''Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer''. || [[wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:Pom_Pom_as_Snow_Globe.png|125px]]|| [[Pom Pom]] || A Snow Globe || A snow globe is a popular decoration and Christmas gift. || [[wikipedia:Snow globe|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:The_Poopsmith_as_Voldar.png|125px]]|| [[The Poopsmith]] || Voldar || Voldar is a character from ''Santa Claus Conquers the Martians''. The movie is most famously known because it was used in ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]''. || [[wikipedia:Santa Claus Conquers the Martians|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:Coach_Z_as_question.png|125px]]|| [[Coach Z]] || ??? || Coach Z is dressed in a paper with ??? as his description. The joke reveals him to be "rapping paper", a pun on wrapping paper, decorative paper used to wrap presents. || [[wikipedia:Notebook paper|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:The_Cheat_as_Max.png|125px]]|| [[The Cheat]] || Max || Max is the Grinch's dog from [[Dr. Seuss]]'s children's book ''How the Grinch Stole Christmas!'' || [[wikipedia:How the Grinch Stole Christmas!|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:Strong_Bad_as_Fragile_Lamp.png|125px]]|| [[Strong Bad]] || Fragile Lamp || A Woman's Leg Lamp is a kitsch home decoration from ''A Christmas Story''. || [[wikipedia:A Christmas Story|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:Marzipan_as_Cindy_Lou_Who.png|125px]]|| [[Marzipan]] || Cindy Lou Who || Cindy Lou Who is a character from Dr. Seuss's children's book ''How the Grinch Stole Christmas!'' || [[wikipedia:How the Grinch Stole Christmas!|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:Homestar_as_The_Alien_Super-Being.png|125px]]|| [[Homestar]] || The Alien Super-Being || The Alien Super Being is a character from ''Christmas on Mars,'' a film by the rock band The Flaming Lips || [[wikipedia:Christmas on Mars|Wikipedia article]]

|-
| [[File:Strong_Sad_as_Ralphie.png|125px]]|| [[Strong Sad]] || Ralphie Parker || Ralphie Parker is the main character in the film ''A Christmas Story''. || [[wikipedia:A Christmas Story|Wikipedia article]]

|}

{{decemberweennav|nocat=yes}}
{{halloweennav|nocat=yes}}

[[Category:Halloween Costumes|Which Ween Costumes?]]

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:56:16 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

If anyone wants to say anything, this is the place:

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:Yes. We have instructions on how to do so [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, man. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 01:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Just out of curiosity, did you mean for your signature to say 500000 (five hundred thousand) instead of 50000 (fifty thousand)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, oops. Thanks, I didn't notice, what with all those zeros. I'll go fix it. 
Corrected! Again, thanks. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 02:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hey bro, you sig is changing all the other text colors. (as seen above). You might want to change that. You need to put a <nowiki> after every (every) tag.</nowiki> {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 02:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It's changing the other text when you view it? That's strange. I'll change it. Fixed? {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 03:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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NighttimeDriver50000:

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Does anyone know how to make your singniture look different?
:Yes. We have instructions on how to do so [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, man. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 01:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Just out of curiosity, did you mean for your signature to say 500000 (five hundred thousand) instead of 50000 (fifty thousand)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, oops. Thanks, I didn't notice, what with all those zeros. I'll go fix it. 
Corrected! Again, thanks. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 02:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hey bro, you sig is changing all the other text colors. (as seen above). You might want to change that. You need to put a <nowiki> after every (every) tag.</nowiki> {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 02:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:52:19 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Fixing span problem

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:48:26 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

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Does anyone know how to make your singniture look different?
:Yes. We have instructions on how to do so [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, man. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 01:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Just out of curiosity, did you mean for your signature to say 500000 (five hundred thousand) instead of 50000 (fifty thousand)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, oops. Thanks, I didn't notice, what with all those zeros. I'll go fix it. 
Corrected! Again, thanks. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 02:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hey bro, you sig is changing all the other text colors. (as seen above). You might want to change that. You need to put a <nowiki> after every (every) tag.</nowiki> {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 02:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It's changing the other text when you view it? That's strange. I'll change it, though.
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:Yes. We have instructions on how to do so [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, man. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 01:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Just out of curiosity, did you mean for your signature to say 500000 (five hundred thousand) instead of 50000 (fifty thousand)? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, oops. Thanks, I didn't notice, what with all those zeros. I'll go fix it. 
Corrected! Again, thanks. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 02:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 02:23:47 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: fifty thousand instead of five hundred thousand

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:34:47 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Talk Page Cleanup

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NighttimeDriver50000 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:13:51 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: User Page Cleanup

== Hello ==
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Talk:Homsar

NighttimeDriver50000 — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:14:31 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* A Hypothesis About Homsar's Behavior */

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==Quotes==
I'm not happy with the "Homsar Quotes" section. It's not uniform, it's not objective and it's not needed. Who's with me? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Not me- I think all main characters should have it, especially Homsar! -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]

There. Deleted Homsar Quotes, got rid of all the quotes on his page. He already has his own little section in Quotes. He isn't ''that'' special. He needs only one page of quotes, just like everyone else. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]-[[User_Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

Do we realy need the MSN Orbit page of the guy who emailed Strong Bad? It doesn't even mantion Homsar!

Have to tell ya, this article is in need of serious rewrite. [[User:213.169.4.137|213.169.4.137]] 07:25, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)
:Where is that list of quotes anyway, just want to see em and add em if you forgot some.--The quill, the page, ly-ric, ram-page 11:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re-Write Is Definitely Re-Right ==

This does need re-writing, it says that "Hi, Wonder Mike!" is "One of the few references to pop culture on H*R", when the whole freaking site references pop culture! Please delete that line, someone, it is really bugging me.
This is a wiki, why don't you remove it? [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:04, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Why don't you? [[User:70.44.146.95|70.44.146.95]] 03:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== A Song From The Sixties? ==

Can anyone come up with song references from Homsar's speeches? 'Gravy train' could be a reference to Pink Floyd's 'Have a Cigar' but maybe it's just some of his home-spun wisdom. Also, not a direct quote, but 'a million ladies tall' feels sort of like 'half a century high' ala Phil Ochs. Just some random stabs here, it seemed a lot more cohesive in my mind.
:"Gravy Train" is a common phrase meaning getting a lot of money (or something along those lines. Also, Have a Cigar was written in 1975, so it's clearly not a song from the sixties.

[[TTATOT]]. [[User:70.44.146.95|70.44.146.95]] 03:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Move? ==

I think this article should be renamed Homsar (Character). The email article should be moved to Homsar (email).
--[[User:ZekeMacNeil|ZekeMacNeil]] 23:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

:We actually used to have the articles titled that way. Then we changed it to the current setup. The titles you mentioned redirect accordingly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:25, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== A Hypothesis About Homsar's Behavior ==

I have a hypothesis concerning why Homsar behaves the way he does.

I believe that Homsar was drafted and sent to Vietnam in the late sixties ("I'm a song from the sixties." could be a reference to this because many songs in the sixties were about the war in Vietnam) and there he witnessed some horrible things that resulted in a dreadful case of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). To escape his flashbacks after retuning home he began taking copious amounts of LSD and rapidly became psychologically dependant on it. After a decade or so of this heavy use, Homsar cleaned himself up; but the side effects from the long-term LSD use compounded by his PTSD cause him to be detached from reality much to this day in the form of incorrect visual identification of objects, mental incongruity, and flashbacks to Vietnam (explaining Homsar's frequent screaming episodes).

Some might argue with me about my analysis, saying that Homsar is simply retarded. I admit to you that this might be tempting to say, but if he were truly retarded many of the pop culture references Homsar makes would be near impossible because most forms of retardation limit the individual's vocabulary for such things; and furthermore, retardation does not often result in rampant grammatical structure disjunction and word misapplication, as seen in Homsar's case, especially when compared to the symptoms seen in long-term LSD ex-users.

Submitted By: Eli Mann

:I know you thought of some big words and obviously spent some time on this, but really- it's just a cartoon. Not everything needs an explanation. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Exactly. Interesting hypothesis, but it's a freakin' cartoon!

Course homsar could be based on a figure in the Brother's Chap's life that had those same syndroms.
Wedge Antilles

Interesting but unlikely. Homsar is just the standard gibberish-spouting idiot that all cartoons have. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

Wow. You really must have thought this out. If people look at this page, they can marvel at it. -Alice

I'm a be an agree: This is pretty unlikely. You sure did spend some good thinking time on it, though. What, did you get bored during math class? :) --[[User:65.31.46.157|65.31.46.157]] 23:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Wow, you've got too much time on your hands man, it's a cartoon for pete's sake. Besides, this isn't all too likely. He's probably just really weird, I know a dude who acts pretty similar to him in real life. -Ryan

Come on, guys. It's obvious. He's actually a genius that's just trying to hide his true identity by making himself look like a complete moron. It's that simple. -Neverending Soda

My theory is that the head trauma he suffered from the weight dropping on his head gave him some sort of weird amnesiac condition. Check out my full theory [[Wikipedia:Talk:Homsar|here]]! I command you! --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 09:14, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

You're all wrong, Homsar has schizophrenia! --[[User:Cocoa|Cocoa]]

Look, cut the guy some slack. This is a discussion page on an obscure article in the Homestar Runner Wiki - clearly, everyone here has too much time on their hands. Kudos on coming up with a plausible theory, Eli. --[[User:mayosolo|mayosolo]] 04:08, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I'll second this sentiment. Nobody who chats about or looks up Homsar in a fansite wiki, for goodness sakes, has a right to talk! Besides, Homsar is an enigma, floating between the intelligible and the random, like a dream. I say he is a being of great power for this. Regardless, he begs this sort of exploration! -Shufei

You got it all wrong. Homsar is a jar of mayonase from the sixties that got left out next to the TV (hense the constant references to old shows) and witnessed the goings on of the kitchen (thus being raised by a cup of coffee). The mayo spoiled and some odd bacteria gegan to grow on it, eventualy evolving into a half-sentient being that can walk and talk, albeit strangely. Given a few centuries, he may hope to attain Homestar's level of inteligence. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:54, 21 Jul 2005 (PDT)

*I like the mayonaisse theory, but I consider Homsar to be the same thing that Homestar is. Whatever that is, they apparently seem to be the same creature. That's kind of like Superman and that oddball supervillian that was also from Krypton.

I agree about the Heavy Lourde being Homsar's problem, but I believe it's just brain and/or spinal cord damage, considering it fell on his head.
-Mortacai

I Think The [[Heavy Lourde|Lourde]] Caused It, Too. It Fell Right On Top Of Him And Gave Hm A Serious Body Blow. He Still [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0|Couldn't Feel His Legs]] After Four Months! I'm Surprised It Didn't [[stunt double|Screw Up]] Strong Sad. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}

Maybe Homsar's just not too intelligent.My friend says this quote by Homsar-"Iiiii was raised by a cup of coffee."--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 02:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)Zaak

If something actually caused Homsar to become nonsensical, it would probably have been the [[Heavy Lourde]]. I kind of doubt [[TBC]] would have such a complicated reason for it; he either suffered brain damage from the Lourde, or he's just your standard insane cartoon character. [[User:74.119.26.14|74.119.26.14]] 20:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Or maybe he's just a born idiot. Ever think about that? Or maybe he escaped from an insane asylum. Also, you wouldn't be that smart if you were raised by a cup of coffee! [[User:Andtrogdorcomesinthenight|AND TROGDOR COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!]] 18:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll bet there are hundreds of possible explanations for homsar, if you really want to try to think of them. There should really be some kinda contest on that.
[[User:The Big Eye|The Big Eye]] 01:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Its really that Homsar is an exaggerated homestar. Homestar has a poor grasp of reality, and Homsar has amost no grasp of reality. This also explains his accent and looks.

That theory must have taken a lot of time and I wouldn't be able ti come up with one like that. It's complicated but make sense and I think it's true. {{unsigned|71.201.63.185|22:32, 12 March 2008}}
i agree with Eli Mann --[[User:Joemll|joe aka joemll]] 16:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

homsar perfectly fits as being severely autistic, i have dealt with people like that, he fits the behavior patterns well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

It seems fairly likely that Homsar is in reality a super-intelligent, super-powerful, multi-dimensional being who simply appears imcomprehensible to people in our dimension, somewhat like the Superman villain Mr. Mxyzptlk. This interpretation seems reasonable, given his portrayal in Strong Badia the Free and his numerous superhuman abilities.

My theory is that Homsar actually has several people living inside of him and everything he says is something that one of these people tell him to say. They can't hear very well (since they're inside of Homesar) so whatever comes out doesn't make much sense.

What about strong Bad's insight in Strong Badia the Free? When he uses the pylon-thing and he can understand Homsar? No disorder or drug causes that. However, trying to understand how that happened would be as hard as ^this argument. Putting so much thought into a character so unlikely to have the complex backstory required to allow the viewer to understand him like you are trying to is a waste of time. Read H*R's FAQ. They don't care much about inconsistencies. The only time they ever put things together in a cartoon was in DNA Evidence. {{User:NighttimeDriver50000/sig}} 22:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== homsar.com ==

I don't think this should be listed as "may or may not be by the Brothers Chaps". I checked it out on archive.org, and until February of last year it was a blog site entitled "Home Of My Stories And Rants". I wouldn't be surprised if they shut down after they got a lot of misdirected attention from their name, which would explain why the site now just says "go away"

:I've removed this from the article. A [http://www.whois.sc/homsar.com quick WHOIS] confirms it clearly isn't The Brothers Chaps.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:16, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

* We're not shut down, we just took a different direction. -John from homsar.com

== Sensical Stuffs ==

I think this page should have a list of all the stuff Homsar's said that makes sense, like "Uh, yeah, what eeys eet, Strong Bay-ad?" and "I do as ah'm told." for example. What do you guys think? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]
* No, I don't. It's arguable if what much of Homsar says makes sense (For instance, I think "I do as I'm told" is just Homsarish gibberish despite the fact that it makes some sense in context), and this isn't a page for Homsar quotes—aside from his character transcript (which EVERY character has) this is just a biography page. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:23, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Plus, everything that Homsar says is in completly perfect grammatical form. All of his sentences are complete and, albeit a bit weird, are normal. [[User:Stramstar Hummer|Stramstar Hummer]]

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Homsar Winner? ===
{{stufffact|The idea of Homsar may not have just originated from bad spelling. There is a noticeable resemblance between Homsar and [[Homeschool Winner]]. Homsar may or may not have evolved from this character.}}
{{stuffverdict|07:15, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)|00:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|15|5|Homsar}}

== What happened? ==

Diddn't we used to have a list of everything Homsar has said? It can't be that hard to maintain, as he has only had 24 appearences to date.--[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]]

:We ''used'' to, but it was decided that just because he doesn't speak normally doesn't mean he deserves a separate section on his character page. See the conversation at the top of this page. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:02, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Talk moved from deleted article: "Homsar's Bowler Hat" ==
Does this have any real significance?
-tapd260

sorta i think --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 02:14, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This is becoming a new '''Coach Z's Z''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}

Agreed. '''Delort'''. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 16:37, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Nowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynoway this is awesome.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:16, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

If it was baleeted I would just go and make another one along with a new Coach Z's Z. Haw Haw.

:Uh, that would not be proper. Is everything okay Darklinkskywaker?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:24, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Why delteat this? Just merge it with Homsar's article. -[[Giranan]]

If anything, this page should be deleted because it states something that is speculation as fact - how do we know Homsar's hat has a mind of it's own? - Grover Junior

I'm with Giranan. This hardly needs it's own article. '''Merge'''. ---[[User:mihoshi|mihoshi]] 13:38, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This is an important part to one of the funniest characters on the website. Keep. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

I think it's cute. Let's keep it. Besides, it wouldn't do any good to delete it as Giranan said. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:15 PM, July 22, 2005

I'd go with a merge, except I disagree that it "has a mind of its own," because it always seems to follow a particular logic to its flight paths (or orbit) from and back to Homsar's head. I think it usually "takes flight" when Homsar is trying to emphasize something, which is pretty much every time he says anything. Anyway, the hat is an integral part of the character, but probably doesn't need its own page. [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|The Smoking Monkey]] 17:43, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Oh, come on! Homsar's hat deserves 12 pages! Homsar himself deserves his own wiki!

I sincerely think that this page must not be deleted! This is Homsar's Hat! I mean, the fact that the hat goes flying everywhere is so cool! If an item on Homestar runner has been shown once, and then never even mentioned again, there is no need to even post it! However, Homsar's Hat has been shown with Homsar every single time he is seen on the site! Taking a page about Homsar's hat off this site is like taking Homsar's hat away from him on the official site!

Signed,

DarkMario

No. We've removed pages for individual clothing items before, if only BECAUSE they appear pretty much every time the character in question appears, meaning every single word can be moved over to the (more relevant) character article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:True that and a half. '''Merge.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

There is no reason this needs it's own article. If not deleted, it shold be merged. Does Homestar's eyes have it's on article? NO! It's merged. ''MERGE''--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

== Examples in Biography? ==

Okay, this is coming up fairly consistently in the Biography, so I wanted to pose a question to the people who run the show around here: Do we need specific examples of oddness in interacting with Homsar in his biography? For example, is it appropriate to point out that Homsar called Strong Sad "That Rhinoceros", and quoting Strong Bad's comment about Homsar in [[interview]]?

:I think the [[Nicknames|nickname]] could be found on the page that follows its name. As for the latter, I don't think we need mention that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::On questions of content, ''you'' are one of the people who run the show around here. You know that, right? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:06, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I understand how a wiki works. :) I was referring to those of you with more experience enforcing Wiki standards. Remember, I'm still new here, and this was a grey area. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:08, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Well, to answer your specific question, I don't see what harm that info is doing, and it adds a little color. You should probably wait till you get a few replies before considering a question answered. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:09, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Huh... so much for consistency. I remember making several edits similar to that in different articles, and most of them were reverted immediately. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::I guess more importantly, I've seen a lot of similar edits get reverted for one reason or another. My reason for changing the line about "That Rhinoceros" was to clarify that Homsar SOMETIMES does refer to other characters by their real names, and I felt the best way to write that was to say "He refers to other characters by random nicknames from time to time". Also, the "conversations" example seemed redundant and unnecessary to me, and like I said, I've seen things like that get zapped pretty consistently in the past. That's why I brought this up. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:16, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::I'm not sure the version of the page I reverted to is the best one. All I'm saying is that, as long as you've asked for input, you should give people a chance to respond. It might turn out that more people want that stuff gone than want it kept. Consistency is a tricky thing around here, because it all depends on what you ask and, probably more importantly, when you ask and ''whom'' you ask. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::::::By the way, other than when he was introduced, when has Homsar called someone by their given name? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], when he thanks Marzipan for the flowers. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Wow. I just listened to that, and Homsar was so... ''normal'' sounding. Weird. But you gotta consider the context: that answering machine was released when the Strong Bad Emails were still in single digits, and was only Homsar's second appearance—before his personality was developed at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Wow. All this discussion because I put examples in Homsar's Biography? Trippy. I just thought it would be nice to have some specific times he is being strange rather than just stating it. Just saying someone is wierd isn't nearly as effective as citing examples, but that's just my opinion. In response to It's Dot Com, yeah, Homsar does sound way too normal in that answering machine. He's almost...intelligable. Freaky. Anyway, just stating my reasons. thanks! {{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 01:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::Heya Jeff. Just wanted to make sure you didn't feel like I was trying to pick on you there - I wasn't. I guess we just disagree on the specific-examples idea, so I was posing the question to a larger audience. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 19:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

== Up-side Down ==
I just realized. Homsar's stood upside-down twice in the Field before! His character video, and A Folky Tale! A coupla more times and we's gots a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:He also stood on the top of the screen in [[Halloween Fairstival]], but it's more an element of his character than a running gag. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==separate pages==
I dont know where to put this, so I'll just put this here.
<center>WE NEED A SEPERATE PAGE FOR CHARACTER VIDEOS</center>
It looks messy how it is right now, not just on Homsars page, but on all the other characters' pages. The fun facts seem a bit out of place on the characters pages, but they'd fit just fine on a character videos page. Anyone with me? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think we need separate pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I TOTOALLY agree. seperate pages. - [[User:Lopolo42|lopolo42]]

== Nonsense Incarnate ==

Just opening this thread to discuss the phrase "Nonsense incarnate" (Homsar is nonsense incarnate). My understanding is that "Person is X incarnate" is grammatically correct, and that it means the concept X is embodied in Person. The most common real-life use of this phrasing I'm aware of is "Person is the Devil incarnate" - usually to refer to an unruly child, a particularly heinous criminal, etc. I have, however, NEVER heard the phrase "Person is the Devil incarnated" (past-tense). Anyone wanna discuss this? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:That's how I understand and use it. I've never heard past tense either. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The reason I brought it up is because I reverted [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar&diff=prev&oldid=226437 this edit], but I don't know for sure that the phrase "nonsense incarnated" is INcorrect. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I saw that edit and figured that to be the reason. I dunno if that one's incorrect, but I do know that the first one IS correct. Go with what you know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Meh, I learn something new every day. (: --[[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 19:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Being "the Devil incarnate" means you are the incarnation - that is, the human representation - of the Devil. That's the real meaning of "incarnate". To be "nonsense incarnate" means you are the flesh-version of nonsense. That is nonsense itself, clearly. Nonsense is not some entity which can take human form. There is plenty of nonsense in the H*R universe that is not embodied in Homsar, so calling him "nonsense incarnate" is somewhat of a misnomer. That said, there is a (weak) argument that the "stock phrase" can be stretched to include such non-standard things as "nonsense" in the "X incarnate" construction, but as a knowledge base I'd submit we do not want to traverse that particular path. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Accent? ==

Does anyone think Homsar's thick southern accent should be mentioned?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:To me, it doesn't really sound much like a southern accent {even though I live in the south). I think Homsar just has an accent all his own. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:55, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I live in the South as well, and I don't have that accent, but some people around me do. Anyway, southern or not, do you think it is worth mentioning? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:48, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Nope; it's not so much an accent as a "voice," in the way that all H*R characters have distinctive voices. I seriously doubt that any particular geographical location could be linked to Homsar's speech patterns (or, if so, I wanna go there ''right now''!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hidden message ==

Why is there a hidden message in the caption for Homsar that says "DO NOT CHANGE THIS. The revert wars are getting tedious"? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, a few months ago we had a few people who went around constantly changing the captions on the pages, so we had to keep changing it back. Hence, revert war. We could probably take it down now, but whatever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What kinda things were they changing it too? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, with Homsar, you know how it is. Everyone has their favourite Homsar quote. They kept changing it between 'Captain of the Gravy Train' to something else and back again. Eventually, they settled on a non-quote caption and added the little message. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Oh, OK. That's what I thought it was, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::It was changed. I had to put it back in. I don't want to see the revert wars. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar the SB E-Mail ==

One of my Friends, Vincent, sent that one in. Apparently when he was 10 he wanted to be called "Vinnie". now he's just plain old Vincent.Dont believe me?Ask Wagonafullapancakes.That's his Name.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 23:14, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Excuse me. I'm sorry. It's Wagon-Fulla-Pamcackes.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==mike==
couldnt wonder mike be a reference to mike chapman????? {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Um..maybe!Not likely but still!--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 23:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Thats what i thought to, like mike was controlling the camera or something, he did when homestar was intoducing you to the website.
:Nuh uh, that was [[Cherry Greg]]. --{{User:The4sword/sig}} 14:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Anyone else notice the caption used on the pic on this page is one of the things Homsar never actually said? He may not have been raised by a cup of coffee. But he is the captain of the gravy train. Well, that's why I'm editing the caption. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone changed it after you edited it. I set it to be the same as the slogan on his T-shirt (the cup of coffee). I have a bigger question, though: Why does his caption have to be static? He has a lot of good ones. What difference would it really make if we changed it once a week? Some pages get edited a lot more often than that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

::Edit wars. Before the comment, several times a day the caption was changed. We don't want it again. And who shall get to decide what to change it to every week? If we are to avoid edit wars, then we'll have to form a commity, vote on it... Just leave it static. OK? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Ooh! I have an out-of-the-box solution. Gimme a few minutes to work it up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I think I has the solution! So...what are you going to do? ???— {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, on an experimental basis, I have enabled a random quote feature, based on <s>MediaWiki:HomsarQuotes (unfortunately, only sysops can edit MediaWiki pages, but we should be fine for a while)</s> [[Template:homsarquote]]. Also, if you don't like the current quote, you can press the handy "cycle quote" button at the top of this talk page. Everybody go press that button ''right now!'' Got that out of your system? Good. Now if the anonnies will just cooperate... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Can't the cycle button be under the pic or something? That way visitors will be able to do it without knowing how to work a Wiki. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Speculation? ==

A new section called "Analysis of Homsar's Character" was recently added to this page. While I'm duly impressed that someone took the trouble to write this analysis, the section seems to me to be speculatory and non-encyclopedic. I didn't feel right just removing it without getting others' opinions, though. What do you all think? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm not sure either way. Yes, it is speculative, but we've allowed speculation in smaller doses elsewhere, like sbemail fun facts. And the preponderance of the preceding text paints him out to be a "little weirdo" so the few inches taken up proposing he might actually be a savant genius isn't so intrusive.

:Again, I'm not sure, but I don't think it's so bad it should be deleted. STUFF'ed, maybe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::Just one little note: STUFFing is only for Fun Facts. Discussions about other contents of pages usually takes place on talk pages, like is happening now. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ya, what you said. I meant, if STUFF was used for this sort of thing. I guess we simply need more input. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I liked it, but now I see it is just another one of the theories about Homsar. I say delete if you say delete. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:I got rid of it. It was uncohesive, largely speculative, and didn't really make a whole lot of sense. Plus the small bits of the section that ''were'' legitimate and plausible were already covered at different places on the page. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

== Psychokinesis ==

"Support for this theory is not only the fact that Homsar's hat floats whenever he speaks, but that it can float even when he isn't. "
This sentence seems very odd to me. I fully support all of the armless characters' psychokinesis (as opposed to invisible arms) but I don't see this sentence supporting it. What does it matter that his hat floats both when he is and isn't talking? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:I strongly disagree with psychokinesis. As just proved in [[DNA Evidence]], Homestar has invisible arms. I think the same about Homsar.--[[User:Brad|Brad]] 22:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::Arms without shoulders? not possible--[[User:4.243.182.63|4.243.182.63]] 17:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

== Word Salads ==

Since I couldn't find the place where we discussed this previously, I'll bring it up again here. I have an issue with the Speech section stating that Homsar speaks in "word salads". The description of word salad in that section is totally correct, but I don't think it applies to Homsar's general speech. The only time I've seen word salads connected with Homsar has been in [[interview]], where Strong Bad was basically mocking Homsar with a pen puppet. "DaAa, Rightio. I think I can twice" is probably the best word salad on the site, and that was Strong Bad making that up, not Homsar actually saying it.

Generally speaking, Homsar's statements are less gibberish and more out-of-context. Aside from his first two appearances ([[homsar]] and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]), virtually everything he's said has made some sort of sense, but it's rare that two sentences relate to each other, or that a statement to another character matches the context of what the other character said. This isn't quite "word salad", however.

Not sure what my ultimate point with this Talk topic is, but I figured I'd bring it up anyway. :) T'would be the pride of the peaches, I'm sure. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

:The first mention I can find of it in the article is in [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar&diff=76749&oldid=75741 this edit] from 2 May 2005. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

::Right. My point, though, is that Homsar does make SOME sense in some cases, whereas he doesn't in others. An example: "Hi Strong Bayad! Is that rhinoceros around?" in [[interview]] - Homsar was looking for Strong Sad, so his question makes sense. His next statement, "I'm a song from the sixties", makes no sense at all in that context, and that could qualify as a word salad. As another example, though, "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine!" in [[army]], could be a perfectly reasonable response to Homestar's call to action.

::So, to say that he speaks frequently or entirely in word salads would be incorrect, IMO - in fact, I think he tends to just have a funny way of saying things most of the time, and he uses word salads only every now and then. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Note that Wikipedia mentions Homsar on both the [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|article]] and [[Wikipedia:Talk:Word salad (mental health)|talk page]] about word salads. I bring this up not to suggest that we necessarily follow their article, just that we take into account what they have to say and, if anything big is decided from this discussion, that the appropriate comments and/or changes be made there too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

::::[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|I've done a detailed analysis]] on Homsar's speech patterns, and I think I've conclusively proven that Homsar does not suffer (much) from word salad. In fact, he's actually quite coherent most of the time. It seems that if he needs to, he can and does relate well to his environment, but when he doesn't need to, he's prone to saying random things - if for no other reason than just to have something to say.

::::What's everyone's opinion on posting this analysis as an official article, or posting it to this Talk page, so we can link to it from the main Homsar article without it linking to my user space? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

::::(PS to It's dot com: Because of this analysis, I removed the reference to Homsar from the word salad article on WP. :)) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 08:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::I definitely think the analysis should be linked to for all to see (and build upon). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

::::::Done and done! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== Need examples of wailing affecting environment ==

"...he often begins sentences by wailing "AaAAaaAAaaAAaa!". (In some cases, this wailing can seem to affect the environment around him in strange ways.)" Can we have examples here? Unfortunately I don't know of any myself. -- [[User:Xzqx|Xzqx]] 20:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:[[Homsar Main Page]] is the prime example; I don't know whether there are others. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did some "research" (namely clicking on the Homsar's Speech Patterns page and clicking each link and then watch the toon) and here's what I got: His Character Video, [[homsar]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[your friends]], [[interview]], Homsar Main Page, [[suntan]], [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[for kids]]. {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mom and Dad ==

In the DVD version of the Theme Sone Video, Homsar appears on the line ''"Homestar Runner '''Mom and Dad'''"''. Could this be a hint that Homsar is Homestar's father? I doubt it, but it's just a little point. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:And he's not in the original version, because he hadn't been thought up. I think it's such a big stretch that the cats are jealous, myself. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::I think they just needed a lyric that rhymes with "Strong Bad." Also, if Homsar is Homestar's dad, then where's his mom? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Back up a bit. The song was written WAY before the DVD video. The lyrics make sense, "Mom and Dad" are important to young kids, which Homestar is (mentally). Later, Homsar is added to the video. I highly doubt there was an intentional connection there. Likeliest, a coincidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
::::"Intentional connection" with what? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Uh, what we were discussing. Homsar being Homestar's dad. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

== The Homsar Runner ==
Is it just me,or does Homsar seem to be [[The Homestar Runner]]?
He resembles him quite a bit
-not-in-same-direction legs
-Shortness
-Head area
He seems to be a bit older than the others(I personally think of him as the confused old guy type)
THR seems to not be that old in his filmography,so thee Old Timeys(Scratch OTB and Sickly Sam) could still have live.

:This is what we call "stretching it" or, more descriptively, scouring the truth, and even your own opinions, for "the truth within the truth". In summarization, there's about a 99.9% chance that no, Homsar and The Homestar Runner have no relation to each other, other than Homsar is a misspelled-spinoff off of Homestar Runner, who is The Homestar Runner's present-day counterpart. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe Homsar's like, a sixties version of Homestar runner. Called Homsar Runner. I mean, 1936 and 1996 have a long time in between, long enough for an additional character.

-edit- A side note on this, Homsar originated from a StrongBad email in which someone misspelled Homestar. The sentence was as follows "Dear Strong Bad, If you hate Homsar so much why don't you just kill him?", in which they proceeded to a clip of a new charater called Homsar with a striking resmblence to Homestar Runner, with obvious differences. He was created as a joke on a fan's spelling and just stuck with the cast.

Also in the old timey cartoons the character is an old black and white version of Homester Runner, not Homsar.

== Word Salads ==

In the article it says homsar does not have schizophrenia due to the fact he speaks in incorrect grammar. However varying degrees of schizophrenia can cause improper grammar as well.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad_%28mental_health%29

{{unsigned|69.40.117.97|23:22, 23 November 2006}}

:I might be misinterpreting your comment, but the article doesn't say that at all. The [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar&oldid=385823 current version of the article] states:<blockquote>Many believe that Homsar speaks in [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salads]] (a speech disorder characteristic of [[Wikipedia:Schizophrenia|schizophrenia]] in which grammar and sentence structure is intact, but the words have no particular meaning), but a [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|detailed analysis of his speech patterns]] has shown that this is seldom the case. Instead, it seems that Homsar can and does relate well to his environment and other characters when he needs to, but is also prone to saying completely random things when there's no particular reason for him to stay in context.</blockquote>
:The article doesn't make any assertion as to Homsar having or not having schizophrenia. It just says that word salads can be a characteristic of schizophrenia. It also says that our research shows he seldom speaks in word salads. It also links to the same Wikipedia article you cited here.
:What exactly do you mean? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

::It says "Many believe that Homsar speaks in Word salad... in which grammar and sentence structure is intact..." word salads do not have to have correct grammar. Btw, I noticed there is another topic called word salad, should this be merged with it or what?

::{{unsigned|69.40.117.97|5:16, 25 November 2006}}

== "Reggie" ==

From the page:

Homsar often assigns the other characters, including himself, strange names. This could be because he has forgotten their real names, is confused, or disregards their real names. These "names" are sometimes based on the character's appearance (Strong Sad: That Rhinoceros) or a similar-sounding name (Bubs: Tubbs). '''Others (Strong Bad: Reggie) just don't make much sense.'''

Calling Strong Bad Reggie makes decent sense, although it's a bit of a stretch. Strong Bad is highly self-centered, believing that all ladies naturally love him, and that he is naturally popular. He also lies to make people be impressed with him. Reggie Mantle, from Archie Comics, is also highly self-centered, loving himself more than he loves women, carrying a mirror around with him so he can admire himself, buying expensive cars to be popular - so connecting Strong Bad to Reggie Mantle makes a relative degree of sense.
:It's speculation to assume this, though, which is why it's not included in either article. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Both comics have a similar cast with two main opposed male characters, one dumb and happy go lucky (Homestar / Archie), and one vain and continually pulling pranks (Strong Bad / Reggie). I guess that would make Homesar Jughead on acid?

Everybody!!!!Everybody!!!! That makes a whole lot of sense, but dont you think "Rhinocereous" and "Reggie" are kinda related. "Reggie the Rhinocereous"... i think i heard something like that when i was three for a bed time story or something... -smartkidhen

Reggie probably refers to the particular red monster from Number Munchers. It has some resemblance to Strong Bad's red mask. Monsters in Number Munchers are are called Troggles, and the red monster Reggie is the most common. That's all i remember from elementary school computer lab. Haha wow. Search Google images to see. Now I hope I've contributed my little bit to our scientific understanding of Homestarrunner.com

== hats? ==

shoudn't that article homsar's hat be merged with this one?--[[User:Dj teh homsar|Dj teh homsar]] 03:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar%27s_Hat&diff=470573&oldid=461244 It has been!}} By the way, welcome to the wiki :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== Cleanup of the laws of physics ==

This section needs cleanup. Remove speculation etc. Re-write to takes focus off the hat, perhaps? A possible merge with [[Homsar's odd powers]] might be coming soon, too.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar's Language ==

This page desperately needs a rewrite. All the bits about the word salads and random phrases especially need to be thrown out,
since Strongbadia the Free revealed that Homsar ''isn't'' speaking nonsense, but merely a language that is comprised of seemingly random english words. Any references to this character being a dullard or a nincompoop should be removed as well, since Strong Bad actually held an intelligent conversation with Homsar. {{unsigned|209.62.199.78|20:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)}}

:It's clear that this is a one time gag unique to this game only. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 21:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

That "one time gag" was written with full support from the Chapman brothers. Are you saying that the games aren't canon?
If it was supposed to be intended as a one time gag, they wouldn't have bothered undoing the effects of the pylon, would they?
Strong Bad could continue to understand Homsar, and everything fine because the games exist outside the cartoon's continuity, right?
WRONG.

::It still needs to rewritten, even though nobody will again be able to understand him, because it was revealed that he indeed is NOT speaking nonsence. If you want a clearer explaination, I suggest reading the comment made by 209.62.199.78 above. (In short, you're just not paying attention.) Seriously, this needs to be re-written! {{User:Haldo/sig}}

I don't think the games are canon, actually. And even if they were, you're putting way to much importance on what is obviously just a one time joke. [[Special:Contributions/75.175.115.65|75.175.115.65]] 07:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think We totally need a vote. I actually belive that it is a language, and in the cartoon sometimes others were able to understand him based on his being around english speakers... kinda like when you live with English people when your a baby you learn english easily, but if you grow up with spanish people, you learn spanish easily.
Just a theory. smartkidhen

==Homsar's House==

I've noticed that almost every other character has his/her domicile (aka house) near the debut spot. Do any of you think that [[Strong Badia the Free]] reveals that Homsar's "house" could be considered the [[Homsar Reservation]]? {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}}

== Duplication? ==

Homsar said he had "his people". Isn't it possible that there always just more than 1 Homsar? --[[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|20px]][[User:PartyBrd20X6|PartyBrd20X6]][[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|20px]] 12:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Um, that's the joke. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 12:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Another Homsar behavior hypothesis ==

I was reading through a lot of the theories about Homsar's behavior and was really surprised that this one was never raised! Allow me to draw a comparison:

In the television show Pinky and the Brain, the Brain is book-smart with an incredible knowledge of science, psychology, engineering, etc., whereas Pinky is something of a goofball, speaking frequently in non sequiturs and appearing to be the 'stupid one' in the relationship. However, it's been suggested that Pinky is truly the genius because he manages to bypass all of the Brain's fancy plans and come up with solutions that are winning in their simplicity and tend to introduce Brain to situations that allow him to be happy or to feel good emotions he has otherwise shut out.

Is it possible that this is true for Homsar as well? He, similar to Pinky, appears to be just stupid and frequently chatters away in non sequiturs, but he seems happier in his simple life than many of the other characters. Some might say this would apply to Homestar more, but I think that Homestar is not truly happy, considering his frequent fights with Marzipan and other clashes with characters. Homsar, however, appears content in his life and goes on his merry way. Is there a possibility that word salads and all, Homsar has a unique brand of genuine intelligence that allows him to be so at peace with how others view him?
: I think that you're reading way too far into a silly cartoon about dumb animal characters (as the creators themselves refer to it. ;) Anyway, how can one tell that Homsar is content? Short of a few scattered instances, he rarely shows any emotion at all. Pinky's got at least ''some'' grounding in reality. Definitely enough for him to show genuine emotion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==Senile==
When I first saw Homestar Runner for the first time, I didn't know about the Sbemails.I thought that he was a senile old Homestar (I mean whatever creature Homestar Runner is.) It just came to me. Perhaps he is just a senile old man? He sure acts like it, and his bowler hat makes him look old timey, like, ... oh my... Old timey Homestar! IMO, he is the old Homestar Runner, except senile, to the point where he almost forgot his name. Homsar sounds like he is mispronouncing his name, don't you guys?
:This is a great theory to bring up on the forum. Here, it's considered speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::So, are we to assume that at some point in his life, Homestar will attain unimaginable powers, and travel back in time to the present day?
:::No. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Referring to Homsar ==
I'm fairly certain that only 2 people have ever referred to Homsar by his real name: Strong Bad, who says his name most of the time, and Strong Sad, who said his name twice in Strong Badia the Free.
Am I wrong? [[Bearholdingashark]], 21:59 PM July 31, EST
:Marzipan says his name in [[Fall Float Parade]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== "flowered" ==

To me, it doesn't sound like his saying "best foot flowered" - it sounds like "best foot froward" (as in forward with two letters switched). What does everyone else think? Should it be changed? [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 15:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:No. For one, homsar doesn't jumble letters within words, that's cardgage's job. For another, it's clearly either "flowered" or "floured" (I wonder why we never had that debate though). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Homsar = house? ==

I think it's worth mentioning that Homsar might have several people living inside of him. In DNA evidence, there are a few unseen people talking and they stop when Homsar closes his mouth.
:Eh, I think that chatter going on inside Homsar is just another incarnation of Homsar's nonsense. As for the theory as a whole, like most theories about why Homsar is what he is, it's basically speculation. Even Strong Sad, the most academic of all the main characters, can't make sense of that guy in Strong Badia the Free. Homsar is what he is because he is what he is. There's just not much more to it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Heimstern is right. It's just Homsar being his usual self. {{User:Star Guy/sig}} 19:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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=What are you supposed to be?=
[[Image:StrongBad Ozone.PNG|thumb|150px|"No, I'm Carmen freakin' Mir—no, wait. I'm Ozone. From ''Breakin'''."]]

During [[Halloween]], the [[Characters#Main characters|characters]] dress up in [[Halloween Costumes|costumes]], in which they often go [[Wikipedia:Trick or Treating|trick or treating]]. Many of these costumes are icons or celebrities from the 1970s, '80s, and '90s, leaving most of the other characters unable to identify '''who a particular character is supposed to be dressed as'''.

This is put quite frankly by [[The King of Town]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], in which he says, "I wish you'd dress up as something I could recognize! Pop culture... mumble grumble!"
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== Occurrences ==
===[[Sketchbook (museum)]]===
*The last [[:Image:Sketchbook Thirteen.PNG|image]] offered ten dollars to anyone who can identify all of the costumes. They have all since been identified.
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===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
*[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] thought [[Strong Bad]] was the [[Wikipedia:Chiquita Brands International|Chiquita Banana]] Lady, when Strong Bad was really [[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]] (although the Chiquita Banana Lady's appearance was intentionally based on Miranda's).

===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
*Homestar thought Strong Bad was the [[Wikipedia:The Spanish Inquisition (Monty Python)|Spanish Inquisition]], and it is implied he thought Strong Bad was [[Wikipedia:Cab Calloway|Cab Calloway]] and Strong Bad Wearing a Yellow Turtleneck, when Strong Bad was really [[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]].

===[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]===
*[[Marzipan]] doesn't know [[The King of Town]] is [[Mario]] from the long-running, well-known [[Wikipedia:Mario (series)|video game series]] by [[Nintendo]]. This could be because Marzipan insists she doesn't play video games, as said in the same toon.
*Strong Bad, who was in a Homestar Runner costume, said he thought [[The Goblin]] (in a Strong Bad costume) was the [[Wikipedia:The Green Hornet|Green Hornet]]. Strong Bad then thought The Goblin was a [[Witches' Brew]], while he was actually [[Bees|The Bee]].
*Homestar thought [[The Cheat]] was [[Witches' Brew]] when The Cheat was [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids#Characters|Russell]].

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
*Homestar thought Strong Bad was [[Wikipedia:El DeBarge|El Debarge]], [[Bubs]] thought he was [[Wikipedia:Gloria Estefan|Miami Sound Machine]], [[Coach Z]] thought he was [[Wikipedia:Sananda Maitreya|Terence Trent D'Arby]], and he himself almost said he was Carmen Miranda again, while he was actually Ozone from ''[[Wikipedia:Breakin'|Breakin']]''.
*Homestar thought Coach Z was [[Wikipedia:Wesley Snipes|Wesley Snakes]], when in fact he was [[Wikipedia:Kool Moe Dee|Kool Moe Dee]] from The [[Wikipedia:Treacherous Three|Treacherous Three]].
*Homestar couldn't identify what Bubs's costume was, calling it a "dirty man outfit", when Bubs was dressed as [[Wikipedia:Mel Sharples|Mel Sharples]], the owner of Mel's Diner in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore|Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore]]'' and the TV show it spawned, ''[[Wikipedia:Alice (TV series)|Alice]]''. [[Wikipedia:Vic Tayback|Vic Tayback]] played the role.

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===
*Strong Bad asked Bubs, "So, Bubs, your approach this year was to ensure that absolutely no one recognized your costume?" Bubs was dressed as One of the 3 Most Important People in the World, from [[Wikipedia:Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure|''Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure'']].
*Homestar was confused about his own costume. He thought he was some sort of a golf cart. He was actually Carl Spackler from [[Wikipedia:Caddyshack|''Caddyshack'']].
*Homestar thought The Cheat was a pile of leaves. The Cheat was actually Sigmund, from [[Wikipedia:Sigmund and the Sea Monsters|''Sigmund and the Sea Monsters'']].
*Coach Z thought Pom Pom was [[Wikipedia:Big Boi|Big Boi]] from [[Wikipedia:OutKast|OutKast]]. Pom Pom was actually ''Big Boy'', the mascot for the restaurant chain [[Wikipedia:Bob's Big Boy|"Bob's Big Boy"]].

===[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]===
*Homestar, seeing Strong Sad's [[Wikipedia:Devo|Devo]] member costume, comments on it, saying, "Nice fire hydrant costume."
*Homestar thought Strong Bad was [[Wikipedia:Blanche Devereaux|Blanche]] from [[Wikipedia:The Golden Girls|The Golden Girls]]. Bubs thought he was [[Wikipedia:Phyllis Diller|Phyllis Diller]]. Coach Z thought he was supposed to be his hot mom. The King of Town couldn't recognize his costume at all. Strong Bad was dressed as Jambi the genie, from ''[[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-Wee's Playhouse]]''.
*Homestar also thought Bubs was [[Wikipedia:Lando Calrissian|Lando Calrissian]]. He was actually the master of disaster, Apollo Creed from ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky|Rocky]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky II|Rocky II]]''.
*Strong Bad thought Pom Pom's costume, which was of Walter Sobchak from ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'', was of "every guy at a truck stop."

===[[TrogdorCon '97]]===
*Homestar asked Strong Bad to guess who he is supposed to be, to which Strong Bad answers successfully with very little effort.

===[[Happy Hallow-day]]===

*Homestar remarked to Marzipan that he likes her "I have a caterpillar crawling across my forehead" costume. Marzipan was dressed up as [[wikipedia:Frida Kahlo|Frida Kahlo]].
*When Homestar sees Strong Bad's [[wikipedia:Father Guido Sarducci|Father Guido Sarducci]] costume, he thinks it is an evil [[wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] costume. Incidentally, Strong Bad ''did'' dress up as Carmen Sandiego [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats|five years earlier]].
*Strong Bad teases Strong Sad asking him if his costume was Strong Sad at his 20-year high school reunion. Strong Sad was actually [[wikipedia:Tony Clifton|Tony Clifton]].

===[[Decemberween Short Shorts]]===
* The Homestar ornament thinks the Strong Bad ornament is dressed up as a [[Wikipedia:Rhinestone Cowboy|rhinestone cowboy]]. However, it isn't even Halloween.

===[[Jibblies 2]]===
*Homestar mistakes Bubs for Schnieder from ''[[Wikipedia:One Day at a Time|One Day at a Time]],'' The King of Town mistakes him for Monroe from ''[[Wikipedia:Too Close for Comfort|Too Close for Comfort]],'' and Marzipan can't figure out his costume at all. Bubs was really Ross from ''[[Wikipedia:You Can't Do That on Television|You Can't Do That on Television]].''
*Homestar mistakes The King of Town for a melted [[Wikipedia:Don King|Don King]]. The King was actually [[Wikipedia:Al Sharpton|Al Sharpton]].

===[[Fan Costumes '07]]===
*Homestar thinks one of the photos is a picture of Marzipan, when it is actually of someone dressed as [[The Yello Dello]].

===[[yes, wrestling]]===
*In an Easter egg, Homestar thinks Strong Bad (dressed as his "il Cartographer" wrestling persona) is dressed up as Rudy from ''[[Bill Cosby|Fat Albert]]''.

===[[Costume Commercial]]===
*In an Easter egg, Coach Z is dressed as Marzipan, but he thinks he is dressed as himself.

===[[Most in the Graveyard]]===
*Homestar confuses his own costume for [[Wikipedia:Carrot Top|Carrot Top]], then turns around and [[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's relationship|"corrects" himself]] as being [[Wikipedia:Crocodile Dundee|Crocodile Dundee]]. He was actually [[Wikipedia:Yahoo Serious|Yahoo Serious]][[Seriously|(ly)]].
*Homestar confuses Strong Sad's [[Wikipedia:Sam Kinison|Sam Kinison]] costume for one of Ma Fratelli from ''[[Wikipedia:The Goonies|The Goonies]]''.

===[[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]]===
*As everyone stands silhouetted, Homestar thinks everyone is dressed in "covered-all-black-ink costumes", and accuses everyone of stealing his idea.

===[[Doomy Tales of the Macabre]]===
*Speaking very quickly, Homestar identifies Pom Pom as "the underwater orange juice man" (he's a Pooka from ''[[wikipedia:Dig Dug|Dig Dug]]''), Strong Bad as the [[Wikipedia:Scarecrow and Mrs. King|Scarecrow and Mrs. King]] (he's the [[wikipedia:Recurring_characters_in_The_Legend_of_Zelda_series#Skull_Kid|Skull Kid]] from ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]: Majora's Mask''), The Cheat as "the [[wikipedia:Thorax|thorax]]" (he's actually [[wikipedia:The Lorax|The '''L'''orax]]), asks Coach Z if he stole [[Disney|Mickey Mouse]]'s pants (he's [[wikipedia:MC Skat Kat|MC Skat Kat]]), and claims Marzipan is "off-duty [[McDonald's|Ronald McDonald]]" (she's Lola from ''[[wikipedia:Run Lola Run|Run Lola Run]]'').

==Hey, X, I really like your X costume==
[[File:Ween 09 Teaser.png|thumb|"I really like your covered all in black ink costumes."]]
[[Homestar Runner]] will often [[What are you supposed to be?|mistake a costume]] that someone (including [[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's Relationship|himself]]) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and has happened on several instances outside of Halloween toons.

===Appearances===
*'''Debut''': [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] — "Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great."
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] —
**"Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume."
**"Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit."
**"Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit."
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — "Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume."
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — "Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from Fat Albert costume."
*[[Most in the Graveyard]] — "Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume."
*[[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]] — "Hey, everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?"

== See also ==
*[[Halloween Costumes]]
*[[Icon References In Halloween Costumes]]

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==Quotes==
I'm not happy with the "Homsar Quotes" section. It's not uniform, it's not objective and it's not needed. Who's with me? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Not me- I think all main characters should have it, especially Homsar! -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]

There. Deleted Homsar Quotes, got rid of all the quotes on his page. He already has his own little section in Quotes. He isn't ''that'' special. He needs only one page of quotes, just like everyone else. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]-[[User_Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

Do we realy need the MSN Orbit page of the guy who emailed Strong Bad? It doesn't even mantion Homsar!

Have to tell ya, this article is in need of serious rewrite. [[User:213.169.4.137|213.169.4.137]] 07:25, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)
:Where is that list of quotes anyway, just want to see em and add em if you forgot some.--The quill, the page, ly-ric, ram-page 11:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re-Write Is Definitely Re-Right ==

This does need re-writing, it says that "Hi, Wonder Mike!" is "One of the few references to pop culture on H*R", when the whole freaking site references pop culture! Please delete that line, someone, it is really bugging me.
This is a wiki, why don't you remove it? [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:04, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Why don't you? [[User:70.44.146.95|70.44.146.95]] 03:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== A Song From The Sixties? ==

Can anyone come up with song references from Homsar's speeches? 'Gravy train' could be a reference to Pink Floyd's 'Have a Cigar' but maybe it's just some of his home-spun wisdom. Also, not a direct quote, but 'a million ladies tall' feels sort of like 'half a century high' ala Phil Ochs. Just some random stabs here, it seemed a lot more cohesive in my mind.
:"Gravy Train" is a common phrase meaning getting a lot of money (or something along those lines. Also, Have a Cigar was written in 1975, so it's clearly not a song from the sixties.

[[TTATOT]]. [[User:70.44.146.95|70.44.146.95]] 03:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Move? ==

I think this article should be renamed Homsar (Character). The email article should be moved to Homsar (email).
--[[User:ZekeMacNeil|ZekeMacNeil]] 23:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

:We actually used to have the articles titled that way. Then we changed it to the current setup. The titles you mentioned redirect accordingly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:25, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== A Hypothesis About Homsar's Behavior ==

I have a hypothesis concerning why Homsar behaves the way he does.

I believe that Homsar was drafted and sent to Vietnam in the late sixties ("I'm a song from the sixties." could be a reference to this because many songs in the sixties were about the war in Vietnam) and there he witnessed some horrible things that resulted in a dreadful case of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). To escape his flashbacks after retuning home he began taking copious amounts of LSD and rapidly became psychologically dependant on it. After a decade or so of this heavy use, Homsar cleaned himself up; but the side effects from the long-term LSD use compounded by his PTSD cause him to be detached from reality much to this day in the form of incorrect visual identification of objects, mental incongruity, and flashbacks to Vietnam (explaining Homsar's frequent screaming episodes).

Some might argue with me about my analysis, saying that Homsar is simply retarded. I admit to you that this might be tempting to say, but if he were truly retarded many of the pop culture references Homsar makes would be near impossible because most forms of retardation limit the individual's vocabulary for such things; and furthermore, retardation does not often result in rampant grammatical structure disjunction and word misapplication, as seen in Homsar's case, especially when compared to the symptoms seen in long-term LSD ex-users.

Submitted By: Eli Mann

:I know you thought of some big words and obviously spent some time on this, but really- it's just a cartoon. Not everything needs an explanation. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Exactly. Interesting hypothesis, but it's a freakin' cartoon!

Course homsar could be based on a figure in the Brother's Chap's life that had those same syndroms.
Wedge Antilles

Interesting but unlikely. Homsar is just the standard gibberish-spouting idiot that all cartoons have. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

Wow. You really must have thought this out. If people look at this page, they can marvel at it. -Alice

I'm a be an agree: This is pretty unlikely. You sure did spend some good thinking time on it, though. What, did you get bored during math class? :) --[[User:65.31.46.157|65.31.46.157]] 23:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Wow, you've got too much time on your hands man, it's a cartoon for pete's sake. Besides, this isn't all too likely. He's probably just really weird, I know a dude who acts pretty similar to him in real life. -Ryan

Come on, guys. It's obvious. He's actually a genius that's just trying to hide his true identity by making himself look like a complete moron. It's that simple. -Neverending Soda

My theory is that the head trauma he suffered from the weight dropping on his head gave him some sort of weird amnesiac condition. Check out my full theory [[Wikipedia:Talk:Homsar|here]]! I command you! --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 09:14, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

You're all wrong, Homsar has schizophrenia! --[[User:Cocoa|Cocoa]]

Look, cut the guy some slack. This is a discussion page on an obscure article in the Homestar Runner Wiki - clearly, everyone here has too much time on their hands. Kudos on coming up with a plausible theory, Eli. --[[User:mayosolo|mayosolo]] 04:08, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I'll second this sentiment. Nobody who chats about or looks up Homsar in a fansite wiki, for goodness sakes, has a right to talk! Besides, Homsar is an enigma, floating between the intelligible and the random, like a dream. I say he is a being of great power for this. Regardless, he begs this sort of exploration! -Shufei

You got it all wrong. Homsar is a jar of mayonase from the sixties that got left out next to the TV (hense the constant references to old shows) and witnessed the goings on of the kitchen (thus being raised by a cup of coffee). The mayo spoiled and some odd bacteria gegan to grow on it, eventualy evolving into a half-sentient being that can walk and talk, albeit strangely. Given a few centuries, he may hope to attain Homestar's level of inteligence. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:54, 21 Jul 2005 (PDT)

*I like the mayonaisse theory, but I consider Homsar to be the same thing that Homestar is. Whatever that is, they apparently seem to be the same creature. That's kind of like Superman and that oddball supervillian that was also from Krypton.

I agree about the Heavy Lourde being Homsar's problem, but I believe it's just brain and/or spinal cord damage, considering it fell on his head.
-Mortacai

I Think The [[Heavy Lourde|Lourde]] Caused It, Too. It Fell Right On Top Of Him And Gave Hm A Serious Body Blow. He Still [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0|Couldn't Feel His Legs]] After Four Months! I'm Surprised It Didn't [[stunt double|Screw Up]] Strong Sad. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}

Maybe Homsar's just not too intelligent.My friend says this quote by Homsar-"Iiiii was raised by a cup of coffee."--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 02:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)Zaak

If something actually caused Homsar to become nonsensical, it would probably have been the [[Heavy Lourde]]. I kind of doubt [[TBC]] would have such a complicated reason for it; he either suffered brain damage from the Lourde, or he's just your standard insane cartoon character. [[User:74.119.26.14|74.119.26.14]] 20:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Or maybe he's just a born idiot. Ever think about that? Or maybe he escaped from an insane asylum. Also, you wouldn't be that smart if you were raised by a cup of coffee! [[User:Andtrogdorcomesinthenight|AND TROGDOR COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!]] 18:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll bet there are hundreds of possible explanations for homsar, if you really want to try to think of them. There should really be some kinda contest on that.
[[User:The Big Eye|The Big Eye]] 01:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Its really that Homsar is an exaggerated homestar. Homestar has a poor grasp of reality, and Homsar has amost no grasp of reality. This also explains his accent and looks.

That theory must have taken a lot of time and I wouldn't be able ti come up with one like that. It's complicated but make sense and I think it's true. {{unsigned|71.201.63.185|22:32, 12 March 2008}}
i agree with Eli Mann --[[User:Joemll|joe aka joemll]] 16:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

homsar perfectly fits as being severely autistic, i have dealt with people like that, he fits the behavior patterns well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

It seems fairly likely that Homsar is in reality a super-intelligent, super-powerful, multi-dimensional being who simply appears imcomprehensible to people in our dimension, somewhat like the Superman villain Mr. Mxyzptlk. This interpretation seems reasonable, given his portrayal in Strong Badia the Free and his numerous superhuman abilities.

My theory is that Homsar actually has several people living inside of him and everything he says is something that one of these people tell him to say. They can't hear very well (since they're inside of Homesar) so whatever comes out doesn't make much sense.

What about strong Bad's insight in Strong Badia the Free? When he uses the pylon-thing and he can understand Homsar? No disorder or drug causes that. However, trying to understand how that happened would be as hard as ^this argument. Putting so much thought into a character so unlikely to have the complex backstory required to allow the viewer to understand him like you are trying to is a waste of time. Read H*R's FAQ. They don't care much about inconsistencies. The only time they ever put things together in a cartoon was in DNA Evidence. [[User:NighttimeDriver50000|-NighttimeDriver50000]] 22:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== homsar.com ==

I don't think this should be listed as "may or may not be by the Brothers Chaps". I checked it out on archive.org, and until February of last year it was a blog site entitled "Home Of My Stories And Rants". I wouldn't be surprised if they shut down after they got a lot of misdirected attention from their name, which would explain why the site now just says "go away"

:I've removed this from the article. A [http://www.whois.sc/homsar.com quick WHOIS] confirms it clearly isn't The Brothers Chaps.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:16, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

* We're not shut down, we just took a different direction. -John from homsar.com

== Sensical Stuffs ==

I think this page should have a list of all the stuff Homsar's said that makes sense, like "Uh, yeah, what eeys eet, Strong Bay-ad?" and "I do as ah'm told." for example. What do you guys think? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]
* No, I don't. It's arguable if what much of Homsar says makes sense (For instance, I think "I do as I'm told" is just Homsarish gibberish despite the fact that it makes some sense in context), and this isn't a page for Homsar quotes—aside from his character transcript (which EVERY character has) this is just a biography page. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:23, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Plus, everything that Homsar says is in completly perfect grammatical form. All of his sentences are complete and, albeit a bit weird, are normal. [[User:Stramstar Hummer|Stramstar Hummer]]

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== Homsar Winner? ===
{{stufffact|The idea of Homsar may not have just originated from bad spelling. There is a noticeable resemblance between Homsar and [[Homeschool Winner]]. Homsar may or may not have evolved from this character.}}
{{stuffverdict|07:15, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)|00:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|15|5|Homsar}}

== What happened? ==

Diddn't we used to have a list of everything Homsar has said? It can't be that hard to maintain, as he has only had 24 appearences to date.--[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]]

:We ''used'' to, but it was decided that just because he doesn't speak normally doesn't mean he deserves a separate section on his character page. See the conversation at the top of this page. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:02, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Talk moved from deleted article: "Homsar's Bowler Hat" ==
Does this have any real significance?
-tapd260

sorta i think --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 02:14, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This is becoming a new '''Coach Z's Z''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}

Agreed. '''Delort'''. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 16:37, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Nowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynoway this is awesome.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:16, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

If it was baleeted I would just go and make another one along with a new Coach Z's Z. Haw Haw.

:Uh, that would not be proper. Is everything okay Darklinkskywaker?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:24, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Why delteat this? Just merge it with Homsar's article. -[[Giranan]]

If anything, this page should be deleted because it states something that is speculation as fact - how do we know Homsar's hat has a mind of it's own? - Grover Junior

I'm with Giranan. This hardly needs it's own article. '''Merge'''. ---[[User:mihoshi|mihoshi]] 13:38, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This is an important part to one of the funniest characters on the website. Keep. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

I think it's cute. Let's keep it. Besides, it wouldn't do any good to delete it as Giranan said. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:15 PM, July 22, 2005

I'd go with a merge, except I disagree that it "has a mind of its own," because it always seems to follow a particular logic to its flight paths (or orbit) from and back to Homsar's head. I think it usually "takes flight" when Homsar is trying to emphasize something, which is pretty much every time he says anything. Anyway, the hat is an integral part of the character, but probably doesn't need its own page. [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|The Smoking Monkey]] 17:43, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Oh, come on! Homsar's hat deserves 12 pages! Homsar himself deserves his own wiki!

I sincerely think that this page must not be deleted! This is Homsar's Hat! I mean, the fact that the hat goes flying everywhere is so cool! If an item on Homestar runner has been shown once, and then never even mentioned again, there is no need to even post it! However, Homsar's Hat has been shown with Homsar every single time he is seen on the site! Taking a page about Homsar's hat off this site is like taking Homsar's hat away from him on the official site!

Signed,

DarkMario

No. We've removed pages for individual clothing items before, if only BECAUSE they appear pretty much every time the character in question appears, meaning every single word can be moved over to the (more relevant) character article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:True that and a half. '''Merge.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

There is no reason this needs it's own article. If not deleted, it shold be merged. Does Homestar's eyes have it's on article? NO! It's merged. ''MERGE''--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

== Examples in Biography? ==

Okay, this is coming up fairly consistently in the Biography, so I wanted to pose a question to the people who run the show around here: Do we need specific examples of oddness in interacting with Homsar in his biography? For example, is it appropriate to point out that Homsar called Strong Sad "That Rhinoceros", and quoting Strong Bad's comment about Homsar in [[interview]]?

:I think the [[Nicknames|nickname]] could be found on the page that follows its name. As for the latter, I don't think we need mention that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::On questions of content, ''you'' are one of the people who run the show around here. You know that, right? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:06, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I understand how a wiki works. :) I was referring to those of you with more experience enforcing Wiki standards. Remember, I'm still new here, and this was a grey area. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:08, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Well, to answer your specific question, I don't see what harm that info is doing, and it adds a little color. You should probably wait till you get a few replies before considering a question answered. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:09, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Huh... so much for consistency. I remember making several edits similar to that in different articles, and most of them were reverted immediately. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::I guess more importantly, I've seen a lot of similar edits get reverted for one reason or another. My reason for changing the line about "That Rhinoceros" was to clarify that Homsar SOMETIMES does refer to other characters by their real names, and I felt the best way to write that was to say "He refers to other characters by random nicknames from time to time". Also, the "conversations" example seemed redundant and unnecessary to me, and like I said, I've seen things like that get zapped pretty consistently in the past. That's why I brought this up. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:16, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::I'm not sure the version of the page I reverted to is the best one. All I'm saying is that, as long as you've asked for input, you should give people a chance to respond. It might turn out that more people want that stuff gone than want it kept. Consistency is a tricky thing around here, because it all depends on what you ask and, probably more importantly, when you ask and ''whom'' you ask. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::::::By the way, other than when he was introduced, when has Homsar called someone by their given name? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], when he thanks Marzipan for the flowers. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Wow. I just listened to that, and Homsar was so... ''normal'' sounding. Weird. But you gotta consider the context: that answering machine was released when the Strong Bad Emails were still in single digits, and was only Homsar's second appearance—before his personality was developed at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Wow. All this discussion because I put examples in Homsar's Biography? Trippy. I just thought it would be nice to have some specific times he is being strange rather than just stating it. Just saying someone is wierd isn't nearly as effective as citing examples, but that's just my opinion. In response to It's Dot Com, yeah, Homsar does sound way too normal in that answering machine. He's almost...intelligable. Freaky. Anyway, just stating my reasons. thanks! {{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 01:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::::Heya Jeff. Just wanted to make sure you didn't feel like I was trying to pick on you there - I wasn't. I guess we just disagree on the specific-examples idea, so I was posing the question to a larger audience. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 19:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

== Up-side Down ==
I just realized. Homsar's stood upside-down twice in the Field before! His character video, and A Folky Tale! A coupla more times and we's gots a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:He also stood on the top of the screen in [[Halloween Fairstival]], but it's more an element of his character than a running gag. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==separate pages==
I dont know where to put this, so I'll just put this here.
<center>WE NEED A SEPERATE PAGE FOR CHARACTER VIDEOS</center>
It looks messy how it is right now, not just on Homsars page, but on all the other characters' pages. The fun facts seem a bit out of place on the characters pages, but they'd fit just fine on a character videos page. Anyone with me? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think we need separate pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I TOTOALLY agree. seperate pages. - [[User:Lopolo42|lopolo42]]

== Nonsense Incarnate ==

Just opening this thread to discuss the phrase "Nonsense incarnate" (Homsar is nonsense incarnate). My understanding is that "Person is X incarnate" is grammatically correct, and that it means the concept X is embodied in Person. The most common real-life use of this phrasing I'm aware of is "Person is the Devil incarnate" - usually to refer to an unruly child, a particularly heinous criminal, etc. I have, however, NEVER heard the phrase "Person is the Devil incarnated" (past-tense). Anyone wanna discuss this? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:That's how I understand and use it. I've never heard past tense either. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The reason I brought it up is because I reverted [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar&diff=prev&oldid=226437 this edit], but I don't know for sure that the phrase "nonsense incarnated" is INcorrect. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I saw that edit and figured that to be the reason. I dunno if that one's incorrect, but I do know that the first one IS correct. Go with what you know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Meh, I learn something new every day. (: --[[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 19:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Being "the Devil incarnate" means you are the incarnation - that is, the human representation - of the Devil. That's the real meaning of "incarnate". To be "nonsense incarnate" means you are the flesh-version of nonsense. That is nonsense itself, clearly. Nonsense is not some entity which can take human form. There is plenty of nonsense in the H*R universe that is not embodied in Homsar, so calling him "nonsense incarnate" is somewhat of a misnomer. That said, there is a (weak) argument that the "stock phrase" can be stretched to include such non-standard things as "nonsense" in the "X incarnate" construction, but as a knowledge base I'd submit we do not want to traverse that particular path. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Accent? ==

Does anyone think Homsar's thick southern accent should be mentioned?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:To me, it doesn't really sound much like a southern accent {even though I live in the south). I think Homsar just has an accent all his own. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:55, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I live in the South as well, and I don't have that accent, but some people around me do. Anyway, southern or not, do you think it is worth mentioning? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:48, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Nope; it's not so much an accent as a "voice," in the way that all H*R characters have distinctive voices. I seriously doubt that any particular geographical location could be linked to Homsar's speech patterns (or, if so, I wanna go there ''right now''!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hidden message ==

Why is there a hidden message in the caption for Homsar that says "DO NOT CHANGE THIS. The revert wars are getting tedious"? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, a few months ago we had a few people who went around constantly changing the captions on the pages, so we had to keep changing it back. Hence, revert war. We could probably take it down now, but whatever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What kinda things were they changing it too? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, with Homsar, you know how it is. Everyone has their favourite Homsar quote. They kept changing it between 'Captain of the Gravy Train' to something else and back again. Eventually, they settled on a non-quote caption and added the little message. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Oh, OK. That's what I thought it was, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::It was changed. I had to put it back in. I don't want to see the revert wars. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar the SB E-Mail ==

One of my Friends, Vincent, sent that one in. Apparently when he was 10 he wanted to be called "Vinnie". now he's just plain old Vincent.Dont believe me?Ask Wagonafullapancakes.That's his Name.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 23:14, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Excuse me. I'm sorry. It's Wagon-Fulla-Pamcackes.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==mike==
couldnt wonder mike be a reference to mike chapman????? {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Um..maybe!Not likely but still!--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 23:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Thats what i thought to, like mike was controlling the camera or something, he did when homestar was intoducing you to the website.
:Nuh uh, that was [[Cherry Greg]]. --{{User:The4sword/sig}} 14:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Anyone else notice the caption used on the pic on this page is one of the things Homsar never actually said? He may not have been raised by a cup of coffee. But he is the captain of the gravy train. Well, that's why I'm editing the caption. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone changed it after you edited it. I set it to be the same as the slogan on his T-shirt (the cup of coffee). I have a bigger question, though: Why does his caption have to be static? He has a lot of good ones. What difference would it really make if we changed it once a week? Some pages get edited a lot more often than that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

::Edit wars. Before the comment, several times a day the caption was changed. We don't want it again. And who shall get to decide what to change it to every week? If we are to avoid edit wars, then we'll have to form a commity, vote on it... Just leave it static. OK? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Ooh! I have an out-of-the-box solution. Gimme a few minutes to work it up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I think I has the solution! So...what are you going to do? ???— {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, on an experimental basis, I have enabled a random quote feature, based on <s>MediaWiki:HomsarQuotes (unfortunately, only sysops can edit MediaWiki pages, but we should be fine for a while)</s> [[Template:homsarquote]]. Also, if you don't like the current quote, you can press the handy "cycle quote" button at the top of this talk page. Everybody go press that button ''right now!'' Got that out of your system? Good. Now if the anonnies will just cooperate... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Can't the cycle button be under the pic or something? That way visitors will be able to do it without knowing how to work a Wiki. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Speculation? ==

A new section called "Analysis of Homsar's Character" was recently added to this page. While I'm duly impressed that someone took the trouble to write this analysis, the section seems to me to be speculatory and non-encyclopedic. I didn't feel right just removing it without getting others' opinions, though. What do you all think? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm not sure either way. Yes, it is speculative, but we've allowed speculation in smaller doses elsewhere, like sbemail fun facts. And the preponderance of the preceding text paints him out to be a "little weirdo" so the few inches taken up proposing he might actually be a savant genius isn't so intrusive.

:Again, I'm not sure, but I don't think it's so bad it should be deleted. STUFF'ed, maybe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::Just one little note: STUFFing is only for Fun Facts. Discussions about other contents of pages usually takes place on talk pages, like is happening now. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ya, what you said. I meant, if STUFF was used for this sort of thing. I guess we simply need more input. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I liked it, but now I see it is just another one of the theories about Homsar. I say delete if you say delete. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:I got rid of it. It was uncohesive, largely speculative, and didn't really make a whole lot of sense. Plus the small bits of the section that ''were'' legitimate and plausible were already covered at different places on the page. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

== Psychokinesis ==

"Support for this theory is not only the fact that Homsar's hat floats whenever he speaks, but that it can float even when he isn't. "
This sentence seems very odd to me. I fully support all of the armless characters' psychokinesis (as opposed to invisible arms) but I don't see this sentence supporting it. What does it matter that his hat floats both when he is and isn't talking? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:I strongly disagree with psychokinesis. As just proved in [[DNA Evidence]], Homestar has invisible arms. I think the same about Homsar.--[[User:Brad|Brad]] 22:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::Arms without shoulders? not possible--[[User:4.243.182.63|4.243.182.63]] 17:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

== Word Salads ==

Since I couldn't find the place where we discussed this previously, I'll bring it up again here. I have an issue with the Speech section stating that Homsar speaks in "word salads". The description of word salad in that section is totally correct, but I don't think it applies to Homsar's general speech. The only time I've seen word salads connected with Homsar has been in [[interview]], where Strong Bad was basically mocking Homsar with a pen puppet. "DaAa, Rightio. I think I can twice" is probably the best word salad on the site, and that was Strong Bad making that up, not Homsar actually saying it.

Generally speaking, Homsar's statements are less gibberish and more out-of-context. Aside from his first two appearances ([[homsar]] and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]), virtually everything he's said has made some sort of sense, but it's rare that two sentences relate to each other, or that a statement to another character matches the context of what the other character said. This isn't quite "word salad", however.

Not sure what my ultimate point with this Talk topic is, but I figured I'd bring it up anyway. :) T'would be the pride of the peaches, I'm sure. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

:The first mention I can find of it in the article is in [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar&diff=76749&oldid=75741 this edit] from 2 May 2005. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

::Right. My point, though, is that Homsar does make SOME sense in some cases, whereas he doesn't in others. An example: "Hi Strong Bayad! Is that rhinoceros around?" in [[interview]] - Homsar was looking for Strong Sad, so his question makes sense. His next statement, "I'm a song from the sixties", makes no sense at all in that context, and that could qualify as a word salad. As another example, though, "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine!" in [[army]], could be a perfectly reasonable response to Homestar's call to action.

::So, to say that he speaks frequently or entirely in word salads would be incorrect, IMO - in fact, I think he tends to just have a funny way of saying things most of the time, and he uses word salads only every now and then. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Note that Wikipedia mentions Homsar on both the [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|article]] and [[Wikipedia:Talk:Word salad (mental health)|talk page]] about word salads. I bring this up not to suggest that we necessarily follow their article, just that we take into account what they have to say and, if anything big is decided from this discussion, that the appropriate comments and/or changes be made there too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

::::[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|I've done a detailed analysis]] on Homsar's speech patterns, and I think I've conclusively proven that Homsar does not suffer (much) from word salad. In fact, he's actually quite coherent most of the time. It seems that if he needs to, he can and does relate well to his environment, but when he doesn't need to, he's prone to saying random things - if for no other reason than just to have something to say.

::::What's everyone's opinion on posting this analysis as an official article, or posting it to this Talk page, so we can link to it from the main Homsar article without it linking to my user space? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

::::(PS to It's dot com: Because of this analysis, I removed the reference to Homsar from the word salad article on WP. :)) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 08:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::I definitely think the analysis should be linked to for all to see (and build upon). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

::::::Done and done! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== Need examples of wailing affecting environment ==

"...he often begins sentences by wailing "AaAAaaAAaaAAaa!". (In some cases, this wailing can seem to affect the environment around him in strange ways.)" Can we have examples here? Unfortunately I don't know of any myself. -- [[User:Xzqx|Xzqx]] 20:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:[[Homsar Main Page]] is the prime example; I don't know whether there are others. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did some "research" (namely clicking on the Homsar's Speech Patterns page and clicking each link and then watch the toon) and here's what I got: His Character Video, [[homsar]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[your friends]], [[interview]], Homsar Main Page, [[suntan]], [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[for kids]]. {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mom and Dad ==

In the DVD version of the Theme Sone Video, Homsar appears on the line ''"Homestar Runner '''Mom and Dad'''"''. Could this be a hint that Homsar is Homestar's father? I doubt it, but it's just a little point. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:And he's not in the original version, because he hadn't been thought up. I think it's such a big stretch that the cats are jealous, myself. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::I think they just needed a lyric that rhymes with "Strong Bad." Also, if Homsar is Homestar's dad, then where's his mom? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Back up a bit. The song was written WAY before the DVD video. The lyrics make sense, "Mom and Dad" are important to young kids, which Homestar is (mentally). Later, Homsar is added to the video. I highly doubt there was an intentional connection there. Likeliest, a coincidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
::::"Intentional connection" with what? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Uh, what we were discussing. Homsar being Homestar's dad. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

== The Homsar Runner ==
Is it just me,or does Homsar seem to be [[The Homestar Runner]]?
He resembles him quite a bit
-not-in-same-direction legs
-Shortness
-Head area
He seems to be a bit older than the others(I personally think of him as the confused old guy type)
THR seems to not be that old in his filmography,so thee Old Timeys(Scratch OTB and Sickly Sam) could still have live.

:This is what we call "stretching it" or, more descriptively, scouring the truth, and even your own opinions, for "the truth within the truth". In summarization, there's about a 99.9% chance that no, Homsar and The Homestar Runner have no relation to each other, other than Homsar is a misspelled-spinoff off of Homestar Runner, who is The Homestar Runner's present-day counterpart. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe Homsar's like, a sixties version of Homestar runner. Called Homsar Runner. I mean, 1936 and 1996 have a long time in between, long enough for an additional character.

-edit- A side note on this, Homsar originated from a StrongBad email in which someone misspelled Homestar. The sentence was as follows "Dear Strong Bad, If you hate Homsar so much why don't you just kill him?", in which they proceeded to a clip of a new charater called Homsar with a striking resmblence to Homestar Runner, with obvious differences. He was created as a joke on a fan's spelling and just stuck with the cast.

Also in the old timey cartoons the character is an old black and white version of Homester Runner, not Homsar.

== Word Salads ==

In the article it says homsar does not have schizophrenia due to the fact he speaks in incorrect grammar. However varying degrees of schizophrenia can cause improper grammar as well.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad_%28mental_health%29

{{unsigned|69.40.117.97|23:22, 23 November 2006}}

:I might be misinterpreting your comment, but the article doesn't say that at all. The [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar&oldid=385823 current version of the article] states:<blockquote>Many believe that Homsar speaks in [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salads]] (a speech disorder characteristic of [[Wikipedia:Schizophrenia|schizophrenia]] in which grammar and sentence structure is intact, but the words have no particular meaning), but a [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|detailed analysis of his speech patterns]] has shown that this is seldom the case. Instead, it seems that Homsar can and does relate well to his environment and other characters when he needs to, but is also prone to saying completely random things when there's no particular reason for him to stay in context.</blockquote>
:The article doesn't make any assertion as to Homsar having or not having schizophrenia. It just says that word salads can be a characteristic of schizophrenia. It also says that our research shows he seldom speaks in word salads. It also links to the same Wikipedia article you cited here.
:What exactly do you mean? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

::It says "Many believe that Homsar speaks in Word salad... in which grammar and sentence structure is intact..." word salads do not have to have correct grammar. Btw, I noticed there is another topic called word salad, should this be merged with it or what?

::{{unsigned|69.40.117.97|5:16, 25 November 2006}}

== "Reggie" ==

From the page:

Homsar often assigns the other characters, including himself, strange names. This could be because he has forgotten their real names, is confused, or disregards their real names. These "names" are sometimes based on the character's appearance (Strong Sad: That Rhinoceros) or a similar-sounding name (Bubs: Tubbs). '''Others (Strong Bad: Reggie) just don't make much sense.'''

Calling Strong Bad Reggie makes decent sense, although it's a bit of a stretch. Strong Bad is highly self-centered, believing that all ladies naturally love him, and that he is naturally popular. He also lies to make people be impressed with him. Reggie Mantle, from Archie Comics, is also highly self-centered, loving himself more than he loves women, carrying a mirror around with him so he can admire himself, buying expensive cars to be popular - so connecting Strong Bad to Reggie Mantle makes a relative degree of sense.
:It's speculation to assume this, though, which is why it's not included in either article. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Both comics have a similar cast with two main opposed male characters, one dumb and happy go lucky (Homestar / Archie), and one vain and continually pulling pranks (Strong Bad / Reggie). I guess that would make Homesar Jughead on acid?

Everybody!!!!Everybody!!!! That makes a whole lot of sense, but dont you think "Rhinocereous" and "Reggie" are kinda related. "Reggie the Rhinocereous"... i think i heard something like that when i was three for a bed time story or something... -smartkidhen

Reggie probably refers to the particular red monster from Number Munchers. It has some resemblance to Strong Bad's red mask. Monsters in Number Munchers are are called Troggles, and the red monster Reggie is the most common. That's all i remember from elementary school computer lab. Haha wow. Search Google images to see. Now I hope I've contributed my little bit to our scientific understanding of Homestarrunner.com

== hats? ==

shoudn't that article homsar's hat be merged with this one?--[[User:Dj teh homsar|Dj teh homsar]] 03:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homsar%27s_Hat&diff=470573&oldid=461244 It has been!}} By the way, welcome to the wiki :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== Cleanup of the laws of physics ==

This section needs cleanup. Remove speculation etc. Re-write to takes focus off the hat, perhaps? A possible merge with [[Homsar's odd powers]] might be coming soon, too.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar's Language ==

This page desperately needs a rewrite. All the bits about the word salads and random phrases especially need to be thrown out,
since Strongbadia the Free revealed that Homsar ''isn't'' speaking nonsense, but merely a language that is comprised of seemingly random english words. Any references to this character being a dullard or a nincompoop should be removed as well, since Strong Bad actually held an intelligent conversation with Homsar. {{unsigned|209.62.199.78|20:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)}}

:It's clear that this is a one time gag unique to this game only. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 21:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

That "one time gag" was written with full support from the Chapman brothers. Are you saying that the games aren't canon?
If it was supposed to be intended as a one time gag, they wouldn't have bothered undoing the effects of the pylon, would they?
Strong Bad could continue to understand Homsar, and everything fine because the games exist outside the cartoon's continuity, right?
WRONG.

::It still needs to rewritten, even though nobody will again be able to understand him, because it was revealed that he indeed is NOT speaking nonsence. If you want a clearer explaination, I suggest reading the comment made by 209.62.199.78 above. (In short, you're just not paying attention.) Seriously, this needs to be re-written! {{User:Haldo/sig}}

I don't think the games are canon, actually. And even if they were, you're putting way to much importance on what is obviously just a one time joke. [[Special:Contributions/75.175.115.65|75.175.115.65]] 07:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think We totally need a vote. I actually belive that it is a language, and in the cartoon sometimes others were able to understand him based on his being around english speakers... kinda like when you live with English people when your a baby you learn english easily, but if you grow up with spanish people, you learn spanish easily.
Just a theory. smartkidhen

==Homsar's House==

I've noticed that almost every other character has his/her domicile (aka house) near the debut spot. Do any of you think that [[Strong Badia the Free]] reveals that Homsar's "house" could be considered the [[Homsar Reservation]]? {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}}

== Duplication? ==

Homsar said he had "his people". Isn't it possible that there always just more than 1 Homsar? --[[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|20px]][[User:PartyBrd20X6|PartyBrd20X6]][[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|20px]] 12:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Um, that's the joke. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 12:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Another Homsar behavior hypothesis ==

I was reading through a lot of the theories about Homsar's behavior and was really surprised that this one was never raised! Allow me to draw a comparison:

In the television show Pinky and the Brain, the Brain is book-smart with an incredible knowledge of science, psychology, engineering, etc., whereas Pinky is something of a goofball, speaking frequently in non sequiturs and appearing to be the 'stupid one' in the relationship. However, it's been suggested that Pinky is truly the genius because he manages to bypass all of the Brain's fancy plans and come up with solutions that are winning in their simplicity and tend to introduce Brain to situations that allow him to be happy or to feel good emotions he has otherwise shut out.

Is it possible that this is true for Homsar as well? He, similar to Pinky, appears to be just stupid and frequently chatters away in non sequiturs, but he seems happier in his simple life than many of the other characters. Some might say this would apply to Homestar more, but I think that Homestar is not truly happy, considering his frequent fights with Marzipan and other clashes with characters. Homsar, however, appears content in his life and goes on his merry way. Is there a possibility that word salads and all, Homsar has a unique brand of genuine intelligence that allows him to be so at peace with how others view him?
: I think that you're reading way too far into a silly cartoon about dumb animal characters (as the creators themselves refer to it. ;) Anyway, how can one tell that Homsar is content? Short of a few scattered instances, he rarely shows any emotion at all. Pinky's got at least ''some'' grounding in reality. Definitely enough for him to show genuine emotion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==Senile==
When I first saw Homestar Runner for the first time, I didn't know about the Sbemails.I thought that he was a senile old Homestar (I mean whatever creature Homestar Runner is.) It just came to me. Perhaps he is just a senile old man? He sure acts like it, and his bowler hat makes him look old timey, like, ... oh my... Old timey Homestar! IMO, he is the old Homestar Runner, except senile, to the point where he almost forgot his name. Homsar sounds like he is mispronouncing his name, don't you guys?
:This is a great theory to bring up on the forum. Here, it's considered speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::So, are we to assume that at some point in his life, Homestar will attain unimaginable powers, and travel back in time to the present day?
:::No. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Referring to Homsar ==
I'm fairly certain that only 2 people have ever referred to Homsar by his real name: Strong Bad, who says his name most of the time, and Strong Sad, who said his name twice in Strong Badia the Free.
Am I wrong? [[Bearholdingashark]], 21:59 PM July 31, EST
:Marzipan says his name in [[Fall Float Parade]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== "flowered" ==

To me, it doesn't sound like his saying "best foot flowered" - it sounds like "best foot froward" (as in forward with two letters switched). What does everyone else think? Should it be changed? [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 15:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:No. For one, homsar doesn't jumble letters within words, that's cardgage's job. For another, it's clearly either "flowered" or "floured" (I wonder why we never had that debate though). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Homsar = house? ==

I think it's worth mentioning that Homsar might have several people living inside of him. In DNA evidence, there are a few unseen people talking and they stop when Homsar closes his mouth.
:Eh, I think that chatter going on inside Homsar is just another incarnation of Homsar's nonsense. As for the theory as a whole, like most theories about why Homsar is what he is, it's basically speculation. Even Strong Sad, the most academic of all the main characters, can't make sense of that guy in Strong Badia the Free. Homsar is what he is because he is what he is. There's just not much more to it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Heimstern is right. It's just Homsar being his usual self. {{User:Star Guy/sig}} 19:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Homestar Runner Peeking

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 04:17:48 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: /* Appearances */

[[Image:hr peeking.png|thumb|Lemme see.]]
[[Homestar Runner]], whenever his eyes are concealed or covered, tends to '''peek''' around where he can see the viewer, [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaking the fourth wall]]. On rare occasions, other characters will do this as well.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[A Holiday Greeting]] — After popping in front of [[Strong Sad]] and closing his eyes, he reopens them to see if the audience is still watching.
*[[First Time Here?]] — When Strong Bad says "You don't know it yet, but I'm the reason you're here," Homestar peeks out and says "It's true."
*[[Superbowl Dealie]] — Homestar peeks out from under [[The Paper]].
*[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] — At the toon's closing Homestar puts a "The End" ribbon onscreen, and then makes a few attempts to look past it.
*Email [[origins]] — After his first bread sing-along, Homestar holds a slice of bread over his face and then peeks out from behind it several times.
*[[Cool Things]] — When the cassette tape covers the screen at the ending, Homestar peeks out from the small hole in it.
*[[Experimental Film]] — When the second split screen appears with Strong Sad and the Grim Reaper, Homestar peeks out from the middle of the screen, giving away the split screen.
*[[Main Page 16]] — After being covered in snow, he blinks until his eyes are visible.
**This may not be actual peeking and just Homestar attempting to see.
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three]] menu intro — Both Homestar and [[Strong Bad]] peek out from under The Paper if you take too long to make a selection.

===Other Characters Peeking===
*Email [[the bird]] — [[Pom Pom]] briefly peeks under The Paper at the end.
*Email [[candy product]] — Strong Bad peeks under The Paper at the end.

[[Category:Homestar Runner running gags]]

Lack of Intelligible Speech

NighttimeDriver50000 — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:30:46 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Note on Powered by the cheat voices

[[Image:Pom Pom and Poopsmith thinking.PNG|thumb|A rare glimpse into the minds of these two mysterious characters]]
A few [[characters]], as well as their respective counterparts in [[1936]] and [[20X6]], have an apparent '''lack of intelligible speech'''. However, the audience is usually able to understand the basics what these characters attempt to communicate, either through their actions and facial expressions, through other intelligible-speaking characters' reactions, or, rarely, through on-screen subtitles.

==Characters with a lack of intelligible speech==
===[[The Cheat]]===
[[Image:Learn to speak.PNG|thumb|Learn to speak The Cheat]]
The Cheat speaks only in squeaks and animal-sounding grunts and yelps that occasionally resemble actual words. In [[cheat talk]], after failing to get him to say something normal like "Douglas", it is suggested that the viewers have to learn how to speak "The Cheat". Subsequently, in an Easter egg of that same email, a short recording teaches a few phrases of the indecipherable language. The other characters, while able to understand The Cheat perfectly, can't speak in his language. Notably, although he only expresses himself using these "The Cheat noises", he has been shown to be able to use (or at least mimic) normal speech, as he presumably provides the voices for all of his [[Powered by The Cheat]] animations. He may use sound-editing software to do this.

The Cheat's [[Old-Timey]] counterpart, [[The Sneak]], communicates only by wiggling his nose (except in [[Sickly Sam's Big Outing]], where he spoke normally when delivering a telegram), and his [[20X6]] counterpart, [[Cheatball]], has yet to say anything beyond his own name.

===[[Pom Pom]]===
Pom Pom speaks through sounds resembling bubbles. Like The Cheat, every character shows a clear and definitive understanding of his speech. (This is occasionally used for humorous effect, when the audience is left to infer that Pom Pom said something outrageous or off-color by the other characters' reactions to him.) In [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], Strong Bad attempts to pose as Pom Pom by, among other things, mimicking his speech: "Hey, give me that! Uh, I mean — bubble, bubble-dee-bubble. Dubble Bubble." Also, in [[senior prom]], Homestar accepts the prom king award on Pom Pom's behalf, and in doing so, gargles [[Listerine]] in an attempt to imitate his friend.

Pom Pom's old-timey counterpart, [[Fat Dudley]], speaks by singing a simple, jazzy "boh-boh-boh" tune. His 20X6 counterpart, [[Pan Pan]], speaks by making a bouncing noise, ie, "Badalang, Bagalang".

===[[Sherlock]]===
Sherlock, the helicopter/cow from Strong Bad's [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]], speaks only through indistinct mumbling. No other character has shown or demonstrated the ability to understand what Sherlock has ever "said", though Homestar imitates his speech in the 2009 [[Punkin Stencils]] update.

===[[Strong Man]]===
Although [[Strong Mad]] can be understood most of the time, his [[Old-Timey]] counterpart does not speak, although he does growl and roar when appropriate.

===[[The Poopsmith]]===
The Poopsmith has been noted as having taken a vow of silence, but is still able to communicate in some ways. An ironic example of this was when, in [[senior prom]], The Poopsmith was the lead vocalist of [[All the King's Men!]]. Since, unlike other characters, The Poopsmith makes almost no vocal sounds at all, he seems to communicate mainly in the form of gestures such as shrugs of the shoulders and thumbs-up; additionally, he has communicated by holding up written [[The Poopsmith's Signs|signs]]. In [[different town]], Strong Bad claimed that one thing he would change about his town is that "the Poopsmith, he could talk". However, every two hundred Strong Bad Emails, The Poopsmith breaks his vow of silence to sing, as shown in [[email thunder]]. When singing, the Poopsmith is voiced by John Linnell of [[They Might Be Giants]].

==See Also==
*[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]
*[[Deliberately Poor English]]
*[[The Poopsmith's Signs]]
*[[Pom Pom and The Poopsmith's Relationship]]
[[Category:Word running gags]][[Category:Research]]

User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

NighttimeDriver50000 — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:19:32 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: activating hyperlinks

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="100%" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-------------------------------------------------- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Bayaad?"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Oct. 15, 2001)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the [[Heavy Lourde]] dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, black and orange taffy, and a wrench, respectively.
| His intro is a paraphrasing of the catch phrase of [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]], the character from the [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoons (who he is dressed as), namely "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." His responses to the treats are strange, but not completely random.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games, although not the one he is actually playing, Connect Four, as Strong Sad observes. He doesn't quite get Bubs' name right.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions, which begin to crawl into his mouth.
| It is debatable whether Homsar's phrase has any connection to his predicament. If it is connected, it would seem to imply that he enjoys eating scorpions.
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* "I'm the ghost of Christmas past."
* "And also with you."
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. He could be angry at Homestar, saying that he should have last place too. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "When can we start the Jeffersons?"
| [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (Nov. 18, 2002)
| Strong Sad mentions in his journal this was all Homsar said to him that day.
| The context is unknown. Perhaps he was commenting on how boring Strong Sad is, and expressing his desire to do something else.
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| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense. He could be saying the T is a thrill.
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| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line is peculiar, but it makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
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| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
|Homsar provides unique ways of reading the buttons.
|
*Toons: merely exaggerated pronunciation.
*Games: merely mispronounced.
*Characters: Kelsey Grammer is an actor, so it fits.
*Downloads: he could be giving thanks for receiving a download.
*Store: He is implying that the store is a "legitimate business".
*Email: He is obviously dizzy, as the area is swirling.
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| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! '''I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it. It is possible, however, that he simply wasn't sure what he should be saying.
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| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he was mistaken for Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad that he was disqualified.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?" In addition, this could be a reference to whether his sudden appearance in the cartoon has any significance to the story.
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| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
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| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Different Town Character Variations|Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
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| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| This one is a close call. On the one hand, the viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "Oh crap, it's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots. On the other hand, Homsar's line may qualify as a true word salad, and Homestar's reply could just be a typical clueless reaction. As they are working at a theme park, Homsar could also be referring to amusement parks' tendencies to create unique games for their customers.
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*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kids' show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes some sense in context, because Homsar is appearing on a public television show, and tote bags are among the most common free gifts given by public television stations in pledge drives. His line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
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| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar from ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
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| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was glued to Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object — for example, "The Human Cannonball" — and this could be akin to his calling himself "The Human Prank".
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| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
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| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Sung while jumping up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face. Coach Z did the same thing moments before in order to win a record, but Strong Bad told him that there were no records for something that no one else would ever do.
| There are two possible explanations for this. The more likely explanation is that Homsar actually does jump up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face while singing the "I'm Just Me" song on a regular basis, which is ironic, since Strong Bad had just said that no one else would ever do that. The other is that Homsar is mimicking Coach Z, although this is not nearly as likely, as it isn't nearly as bizarre as the former explanation, and is therefore incongruous with Homsar's character.
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*"AaA, get consummate."
*"I'm pleasant!"
| [[Rock_Opera_(karaoke)#Easter_Eggs|Karaoke version of "Rock Opera" (alternate take)]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Sung as part of the alternate take on Strong Bad's rock opera, whose lyrics consists of one word from each of his then-125 emails.
| These quotes make perfect sense because both phrases refer to the words representing the emails [[japanese cartoon]] and [[dragon]], and [[crying]] and [[for kids]], respectively, in the actual email.
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| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does make some sense when paired with his costume, as [[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] sold maps to Link in his debut in [[Wikipedia:Majora's Mask|Majora's Mask]].
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Two Homsars drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement, or as a humorous reference to product endorsement, since Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world. Also, Pennzoil is an oil used in automobiles, and the Homsars are driving cars.
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| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart". It should also be noted that being "a little light in the '''loafers'''" is a common euphemism for homosexuality. The phrase itself, when put into context, is likely Homsar's way of saying that the merchandise is a limited time offer, or he simply ran out.
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| "This dinner party is top dollar!"
| [[cliffhangers]] (Sept. 18, 2006)
| Homsar says this while hanging off a cliff by a rope.
| Not exactly appropriate given the situation, but he does acknowledge that he is at a gathering. It could also be inferred that he likes hanging upside-down. Additionally, he could be referencing the King of Town's tendency to eat random things. It is also possible that Strong Bad convinced both Homsar and the King of Town that he was taking them to a dinner party, which would have made sense to the King of Town.
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| "Eggs tree, eggs tree! This get-up is mah get down!"
| [[Happy Hallow-day]] (Oct. 30, 2006)
| Homsar is holding a newspaper with the headline "Eggs Tree! Eggs Tree!"
| "Eggs Tree" sounds like the way Homestar pronounced "extree" earlier in the toon, albeit broken up into words. Plus, during this scene he's standing next to a tree full of actual eggs. "This get-up is mah get down" refers to when Homestar says that the Newspaper Boy outfit was NOT his Halloween costume. The opposite is the case for Homsar.
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| "Well, hello, chocolate cake!"
| [[strong badathlon]] (Jan. 29, 2007)
| Homsar and Marzipan are having a tea party when The Cheat, covered in [[whatsit]], comes flying through the air and lands on the table.
| This line makes some sense in this context, since chocolate and whatsit are both brown in color. Another way this line could make sense is that "chocolate cake" can be used as a term of endearment. It is also possible that Homsar could be referring to the shape of The Cheat as a piece of chocolate cake.
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| "AaAaAh! My cheese is 50 cent!"
| [[Who Said What Now?]]
| This is Homsar's quote for the game.
| Since all of the character quotes in the game reflect the character in some way, this quote makes sense, since Homsar's character that of a non-sequitor.
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| "These Easter pants are getting way too tight."
| [[DNA Evidence (toon)|DNA Evidence]] (May 15, 2007)
| This is Homsar's reply to Strong Sad, when the latter asks the former if he will say anything at the end of the toon.
| There are a couple of things this line could reference: Homsar's occasional appearances in [[Easter egg]]s, and the common running gag of [[pants]]. Perhaps Homsar is somewhat dazed by Strong Sad's long exposition and is uttering whatever is on his mind. It could also mean that he feels pressure from Strong Sad after witnessing such an out-of-character revelation from him, and wishes to remove himself from the uncomfortable situation or change the subject. It could also be referring to himself, "The Human Wedgie". Another explanation is he refers to secrets as "easter pants" (hence the term EASTER egg) and he can't keep much more of them.
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| "Ennn-joy!"
| [[160 Seconds]] (Jun. 5, 2007)
| The English-speaking males take turns reading the introduction of the video.
| This quote makes perfect sense because they hope the viewers like the video. It's also the final line in the message displayed on the screen.
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| "AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster may-an!"
| [[mini-golf]] (Aug. 13, 2007)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad while floating through the air above [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], when Strong Bad asked the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] "Homsar, is that you?"
| This would appear to make literal sense, as Homsar is not inside the Drive-Thru Whale, though he appears to have given Strong Bad another new nickname.
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| "I'm a touchy feely-holic!"
| [[Jibblies 2]] (Oct. 29, 2007)
| Homsar's response to the [[Horrible Painting]].
| This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."
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| "I'm a long-standing munch date!"
| [[Where's The Cheat? (game)]] (Nov. 12, 2007)
| Strong Bad meets Homsar in a secret room.
| This would make sense if Homsar felt he was waiting too long for someone to access his Easter Egg.
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| "My name's Millions, and I'm the son of a Chipwich!"
| [[fan club]] (Jan. 28, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's mentioning of the ongoing debate of the non sequitur championship.
| This makes perfect sense as a response to the mentioning of non sequiturs, one of which this definitely is. Homsar's first line may also be him trying to introduce himself to Strong Sad's [[The Deleteheads|fan club]].
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| "AaaAAaaaaAaaa! Step right up! I'm a crudely drawn cupcake! Don't forget your tapesicle!"
| [[Homestar Ruiner]] (Aug. 11, 2008)
| This is the message you receive when you call Homsar using Homestar's cell phone.
| Homsar does something he does fairly often. When he doesn't really have anything to communicate, he just draws something out of mid-air, however he does have the shape of a "crudely drawn cupcake". "Don't forget your tapesicle" is a word salad, or may simply be a reminder for the caller to leave a message.
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| "DaaAAAAAaaa! I'm the buttersilk pancake!"
| [[Make a Scene with Telltale: Strong Bad Edition]] (Aug. 31, 2008)
| This is Homsar's comment on the pancake that everyone else is discussing.
| This makes sense in that everyone is talking about the pancake the King of Town is supposedly making. It may be implied that Homsar himself is the pancake and Homestar's follow-up line about him affirming this supports this.
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| "Daaah, I'm a knock knock joke about jogging suits!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| This is what Homsar usually says when you try to talk to him.
| This sounds like a word salad, however, when Strong Bad gains the ability to understand Homsar this is translated into "Hello, Strong Bad. What's the haps?"
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| "Pucker up, Dice Man! I'm as upholstered as I wanna be!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar usually says this when Strong Bad asks him to join Strong Badia.
| At first glance this may seem like a word salad (with Strong Bad hoping he's not Diceman), but Homsar could be rejecting Strong Bad's offer. When Strong Bad can understand Homsar, this is translated as "Why should my people risk open war for you and your considerable style?"
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| "AaAaAaAaA, try some caked-on makeup from yesteryear!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| This is what Homsar says when Strong Bad asks him about "that rock with the glowy popsicles stickin' out of it."
| Homsar apparently responds to Strong Bad's question, and if a Homsartifact is inserted in the pylon, "caked-on makeup" is translated to "assemble the sacred elemental items."
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| "Sign me up for soccer class, Debra!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad attempting to speak in Homsar's language.
| It may seem like a word salad, but when Strong Bad speaks Homsar's language after being enlightened to Homsar's ways, it is translated as "Why are you talking gibberish Strong Bad? You sound like a two-years old boy."
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| "Hotel coupons for dinner again?"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| | Homsar's response to Strong Bad when he shows Homsar one of the Homsartifacts.
| Like the other responses from Strong Badia the Free, this sounds like a word salad, and has yet to be translated, but is probably Homsar trying to tell Strong Bad to put it in the "pylon."
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| "My base boards are full of chicken sticks!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
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| "DaAaHh I'll take the last bus to the bake sale!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
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| "Daaaahhhh, I'm the local Leroy!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response in Strong Bad's prep talk to the latter's line, "Have something to share with the rest of the class?".
| This likely counts as a word salad, but may mean that Homsar is willing to go to battle in the Homestarmy.
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| "Daaaahhh, this mustard is just like paradise!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to being in the Fog of War during the Maps and Minions game.
| Homsar is claiming that he doesn't mind being inside the fog. The term "mustard" may refer to "mustard gas", meaning that Homsar may think that the Fog of War is a mustard gas cloud, and he doesn't mind it.
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*"Daaah, no thanks, officer! I've got one big round one!"
*"AaAaAa! I'm the long way back from naptime!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's droning in the Maps and Minions game.
| While they appear to be word salads, like everything else Homsar says in the game, they mean something else. In this case, Homsar is probably telling Strong Sad that he is not afraid and is taking the King of Town ("the one big round one") back to the Castle. He also seems to know that he is talking to a law enforcement officer. Alternatively, he could be talking to Strong Bad, saying he doesn't need help and he'll keep Strong Sad (the one big round one) occupied for him. "I'm the long way back from naptime" may be a threat to knock Strong Sad out.
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| "Here comes the yogurt patrol!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar says this when confronting Strong Mad.
| Homsar may be warning Strong Mad to watch out for him.
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| "I left my bacon at the tennis patch."
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept. 15, 2008)
| Homsar says this after being defeated by Homestar.
|Homsar might be saying this because he was leaving and was going to go get it.
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| "[[Pie|Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie]]!"
| [[Baddest of the Bands]] (Oct. 27, 2008)
| Homsar screams this while being electrocuted at the DOI concert.
| Homsar was in distress, and likely shouted the first thing that came to mind.
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| "AaAaAah leave my itch machine on pause mostly!"
| [[Baddest of the Bands]] (Oct. 27, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad asking why he's still on stage after the concert.
| The "itch machine" in question may be Homsar's theremin, as it somewhat resembles a scratching post. On a related note, "itch machine" is one of the possible things Homsar will pick for what the "I" stands for in DOI.
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| "AaAaAah'm the Captain Caveman of the graveyard train!"
| [[Most in the Graveyard]] (Oct. 30, 2008)
| Homsar speaks this line disguised as Captain Caveman, popping out from behind a grave.
| This sentence makes perfect literal sense on its own, and is also a reference to his character video, in which he refers to himself as the "captain of the gravy train."
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| "You bring the dip, I'll mow the side yard."
| [[Career Day]] (Mar. 10, 2009)
| Homsar says this when Strong Bad as Space Captainface announces to talk about his career in space travel.
| This sentence may likely refer to Homsar's reaction to Strong Bad's description of his career, similar to Strong Mad and Homestar's respective initial negative reactions to him.
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*"Yes it does!"
*"GrRrRraaauuughnck there, Rubbermaid, can you redirect me to the nearest pukevalanche?"
| Email [[dictionary]] (Sep. 1, 2009)
|
*Homsar telling Strong Sad that his [[paunch]] does smell.
*Homsar is in [[Strong Badia]], speaking to [[the tire]] while reading Strong Bad's dictionary
| The first sentence is one of the most coherent things Homsar has said. He is saying this in time with the rest of the characters. In the second sentence, he is in Strong Badia, trying to speak Strong Badian to a "local". "Pukevalanche" is a term that Strong Bad used earlier in the email, so this may very well make sense, in the context that he actually is trying to find a "pukevalanche". "Graaauuughnck!!" is also a Strong Badian term. His name for the tire makes sense because it is most likely made of rubber.
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| "My punjab has a pretty price-tag!"
| [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre]] (Oct. 29, 2009)
|Homsar is talking to either himself or the narrator ([[Strong Sad]]).
|He is called a "little weirdo", so it would make sense that he'd respond by acting as such. Punjab, as well, is a recurring character from the Little Orphan Annie comic, which he is dressed as.
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

However, in [[Strong Badia the Free]] it is determined that Homsar's speech is actually a well-developed language, as Strong Bad is briefly able to understand it, making Homsar's speech make perfect sense. To Strong Sad, however, the two characters appear to be speaking nonsense.

[[Category:Spelling and Grammar]][[Category:Research]]

Bubs's Shady Business Practices

NighttimeDriver50000 — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:41:32 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: grammar

[[Image:Shotgunned menu.png|thumb|250px|"What kinda shady Bubs business you running here anyways?"]]
<blockquote> '''''Strong Bad:''' You're a shady, shady character Bubs.'' 
'''''Bubs:''' It's cool in the shade! </blockquote>''[[Bubs]] has been known to engage in all forms of '''shady, crooked, and sometimes downright illegal business practices''', from simple overpricing to trading in stolen organs.

==Bait and Switch==
*Email [[theme park]] — Bubs tells Pom Pom that he can only win prizes if he gets the rings '''inside''' the [[Xtra Cold Ones]] bottle after Pom Pom flawlessly threw three rings over it.
*Email [[different town]] — Strong Bad imagines that Bubs would use ''imitation'' chocolate for his [[Bubs's Flamethrowers|flamethrowers]] that shoot chocolate hundred-dollar bills.
*Email [[looking old]] — A sign at the stand says "<s>1</s>0% OFF ALL iTems!"
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2]] — Bubs offers 10% off at the concession stand and immediately follows it with the disclaimer "discount will not be honored".
*[[Most in the Graveyard]] — Bubs admires his great-great-grandpappy's cousin Harold who "discovered the bait and switch".
*[[Donut Unto Others]] — Bubs claims his doughnuts fight cavities and clean teeth before quickly adding "The American Dental Association does not approve the preceding statement."

==Copyright Infringement==
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs hints that his black market sells pirated DVDs.

==Counterfeiting==
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs implies that his black market sells fake IDs.

==Debt Evasion==
*Email [[lackey]] — Bubs slams the shutters when Strong Bad with [[Doreauxgard]] pretends to be from the collection agency.

==Defective and Substandard Goods==
*Email [[12:00]] — Bubs, hired to make the clock on Strong Bad's VCR work, instead [[duct tape]]s an alarm clock to the top (after first attempting to duct tape The Cheat to it).
*[[King of Town Email]] — According to the page title Bubs sold the broken Tandy 400 to The King of Town for $900.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — Bubs has a rusty steak knife in his box of 'aught four [[crap]].
*Email [[virus]] — Bubs puts the "slightly shotgunned" and "like used" [[Compy 386]] up for sale.
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs sells Strong Bad a defective Strong Bad miniature.

==Embezzlement==
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]] — Bubs's new year resolution is to stop embezzling money from himself.
*[[Ever and More!]] — [[Homestar]] asks Bubs to talk about "shiny new ways to misappropriate funds". Bubs then proceeds to describe buying a [[WetSki|Jet Ski]] with the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]]'s money, crashed and broke his shin, and began spending $50 a tube on [[BUBRUB!|rubbing ointment]].
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs says that [[Blatant lies|he is definitely not embezzling thousands of dollars]] from [[Club Technochocolate]].
*[[Baddest of the Bands]] — Bubs casually mutters that he's skimming 10% of the profits of the battle of the bands behind Strong Bad's back.

==Evidence Tampering==
*[[Bug In Mouth Disease]] — When Homestar approaches, Bubs is burning an envelope labeled "Exhibit A" and later tries to sell him a pancreas contained in a box labeled "Exhibit B".
*Email [[buried]] — Bubs buries "in'''toxic'''atingly good" waste in [[Strong Badia]] and has apparently buried "a fella named Rich" in the past.
*[[DNA Evidence]] — Bubs sells Marzipan's DNA evidence to Strong Bad in a snow cone, and returns to her a test tube labeled "tampered with".

==False Advertising==
*[[Broken Compy menu]] — Bubs sells the shotgunned [[Compy 386]] to Homestar saying it's a low-priced automobile.
*Email [[technology]] — Bubs sells "wireless extension cords" and stresses that they're "[[Allegedly Real Things|existent]]".
*[[Happy Hallow-day]] — Bubs advertises black spray-paint as spray-on Halloween night, sunglasses as Halloween night-vision goggles and "Hollerin' Jimmy's Hovercraft Kit" as a "Halloween Night hovercraft kit".
*Email [[the chair]] — Bubs tries to sell a box of chicken beaks and a Winger album as chairs.
*[[Ever and More!]] — Bubs sells the minutes of The [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]]'s last meeting to [[Homsar|third world countries]] as rollover minutes.
*[[Quality Time]] — Bubs sells Marzipan [[eggs]] as "organic batteries".
*[[Donut Unto Others]] — Bubs lies about the teeth-cleaning and cavity-fighting abilities of his donuts. He also says that he has them made in a third world country named "Homemáde" so he can legally print "from homemade" on the package.

==Fraud==
*[[Donut Unto Others]] — Bubs has apparently sold Homestar "[[Questionable Services|questionable medical coverage]]".

==Hacking==
*[[8-Bit is Enough]] — Bubs bypasses the region locking on Strong Bad's [[TROGDOR!]] arcade machine.

==Harmful Goods==
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] — Bubs has a Strong Sad voodoo doll on sale, which even Homestar questions.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]] — Bubs has a tainted candy sellback day on Friday.
*Email [[the chair]] — The chairs that he sells Strong Bad and Strong Sad end up leaving them unable to "feel [their] parts".
*Email [[licensed]] — Homestar discovers that the piñatas that Bubs sells are full of broken glass after getting a face-full of it, and the Strong Bad ferret [[ointment]] causes [[The Cheat]] to inflate like a balloon.
*[[DNA Evidence]] — Bubs sells the [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]] to Strong Bad in a snow cone.
*[[The Baloneyman]] — Bubs implies that the baloney sandwiches that he has been selling had expired mayonnaise.
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — Bubs gives chocolate covered packing peanuts in exchange for coupons.

==Health Code Violations==
*Email [[no loafing]] — The lunch specials that Bubs sells are already eaten.
*[[One Two, One Two]] — Bubs makes sausages with a tennis ball and a box of [[General Tso's Chicken]] (including the box).
*[[The Baloneyman]] — Bubs sells a sandwich with a bite taken out of it to an oblivious Homestar.
*[[Donut Unto Others]] — Bubs hides and pretends to be closed when the health inspector arrives.

==Human Trafficking==
*[[Baddest of the Bands]] — Bubs says that he accepts first-born children as payment.

==Information Mining and Spamming==
*Email [[unused emails]] — Bubs buys 5000 email addresses at $0.25 apiece from Strong Bad ($1250 total) to use in his weekly spamvertisments.

==Invasion of Privacy==
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — Bubs casually tells Strong Bad that he reads all his emails.

==Ivory Trade==
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — Strong Bad says the last time he tried to navigate Bubs' Tele-stand he ended up with a crate of rhino horns.

==Loan Sharking==
*Email [[other days]] — Bubs threatens to turn Strong Bad over to a "cut off your toes"-style collections agency if he doesn't pay up.

==Mistreatment of Employees==
*Email [[part-time job]] — Strong Bad mentions that Bubs made him pay for his mascot costume.
*[[On Break]] — Bubs only gives one smoking, pee, coffee, and maternity leave break each per day. He also doesn't allow Pom Pom to take breaks as he is not in the union.

==Operating Without a Valid License==
*[[Bug In Mouth Disease]] — Bubs claims to be a doctor despite his "doctor" card clearly being only for VCR repairs and fashion consultation.
*[[Senorial Day]] — Bubs's entrepreneur license has SUSPENDED stamped across it.
*Email [[licensed]] — Bubs sells ''unlicensed'' unlicensed Strong Bad merchandise.
*[[The Baloneyman]] — Bubs mentions that he has an expired tag and expired license.
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs hints that his black market sells unlicensed merchandise.

==Organ Trafficking==
*[[Bug In Mouth Disease]] — Bubs offers to sell [[Homestar]] a spare pancreas.
*[[DNA evidence]] — Bubs tells Marzipan that analyzing the DNA evidence will cost her an arm and a leg.
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs operates a black market out behind [[Concessionstantinople]] dealing in organs along with other illegal items.

==Overpricing==
*[[King of Town Email]] — According to the page title Bubs sold the broken [[Tandy 400]] to [[The King of Town]] for $900.
*Email [[local news]] — A sign at the stand says "Wait in Line: $5".
*Email [[pom pom]] — Bubs charges Strong Bad $5 for a "face mashing" and $10 for a "severe pummeling" from Pom Pom.
*Email [[part-time job]] — Bubs attempts to charge Coach Z and Pom Pom $50 then $60 for a picture with the Tragic clown dog.
*Email [[secret identity]] — Bubs charges Strong Bad (as Mr. Tip Tappers) $900 for a room. Also Bubs's guestbook notes that he accepted double payment from [[Secret identities#other characters|Mr. Dee Williams]] (Homestar).
*Email [[myths & legends]] — Bubs demands an extra $20 from [[Strong Bad]] after he comments that the [[Bear Holding a Shark]] ice cream he bought looks more like Morgan Freeman.
*Email [[nightlife]] — Bubs sells Strong Bad a eyedropper-full amount of "Pink Elephant Pants" for $17.50, which is apparently less than he usually charges.
*[[The Baloneyman]] — Bubs attempt to sell [[Coach Z]] a napkin for $32.
*[[Baddest of the Bands]] — Bubs charges Strong Bad "one big sack of cash" for repairs to the Fun-machine and after the repair job, Strong Bad complains that "Bubs totally ripped (him) off, man! Like, more than usual."
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 16.2]] — Bubs claims that the late fee for a [[IMDb:tt0103184|V.I. Warshawski]] DVD is $3 because it still counts as a new release.

==Smuggling==
*[[SBCG4AP Tutorial]] — When Strong Bad comments that Bubs has gotten fat, he replies that he hasn't and is in fact just smuggling cantaloupes past the border under his shirt.

==Stolen Goods==
*[[Cool Things]] — Bubs claims that he's closed and only gives Homestar the paint and shades when he asks Bubs to steal them for him, asserting that he never passes up a chance to stick it to the man.
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs's black market trades in organs of questionable origin and illegally obtained cultural artifacts. He trades Strong Sad's stolen Pretendix for an illegally excavated piece of pottery to Strong Bad.
*[[Where My Hat Is At? (toon)|Where My Hat Is At?]] — Bubs has Marzipan's hair on sale as a "wig" which he unabashedly says is stolen.

==Weapons Dealing==
*Email [[different town]] — Strong Bad imagines that Bubs would give away [[Bubs's Flamethrowers|flamethrowers]] that shoot (imitation) chocolate hundred-dollar bills.
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Bubs operates a black market out behind [[Concessionstantinople]] dealing in weapons, like bazooka flamethrowers that throw throwing stars, along with other illegal items.

==Generic Mentions of Shadiness==
*[[Bug In Mouth Disease]] — Homestar asks if Bubs is an unethical quack, to which he responds "the most quackinest."
*[[Broken Compy Menu]] — Homestar asks, "What kinda shady Bubs business you running here anyways?"
*[[Happy Fireworks]] — Bubs complains about how long the setup for the fireworks is taking, saying "I got peoples to rip off!"
*Email [[isp]] — When Strong Bad confronts him with "throttling [Strong Bad] down", Bubs responds that throttling down is not one of the 99 ways he rips Strong Bad off.
*Email [[licensed]] — Bubs says that the stuff that he sells in the Concession Stand is of worse quality than his shady bootleg operation.
*[[Play Date]] — Bubs briefly spends time in federal prison for unexplained reasons.
*[[The Baloneyman]] — At the end, Homestar says farewell to the "[["Man" Pronounced as "M'n"|baloneym'n]]", adding "may your warbly theme song serve as a reminder that you probably have a really sketchy past."
*[[Strong Badia the Free]] — Strong Bad says that Bubs is a "shady, shady character", to which Bubs responds that it's cool in the shade.
*[[Doomy Tales of the Macabre]] — Bubs describes his wallet as the one that says "bad business practices".

==See Also==
*[[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad]]
*[[Crime and Punishment]]
*[[Coach Z's Problems]]

{{incomplete list}}

[[Category:Lists]]

Countries in Strong Badia the Free

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:43:03 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: added wikipedia links

In [[Strong Badia the Free]], various parts of [[Free Country USA]] are established as [[Wikipedia:Sovereignty|sovereign]] [[Wikipedia:Country|countries]] by the various characters. [[Strong Bad]]'s goal is to unite them all as part of his own country, [[Strong Badia]]. [[Image:Map.PNG|thumb|The lay of the land]]

==Bleak House==
[[Image:BleakHouseFlag.png|thumb]]
Bleak House is ruled by [[Strong Sad]] and consists of the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. Strong Sad crowns himself [[Wikipedia:king|king]] of this [[Wikipedia:constitutional monarchy|constitutional monarchy]]. He bases the legitimacy of his new nation on the national flag he designed for it and two national documents he authored: a [[Wikipedia:constitution|constitution]] and a [[Wikipedia:bill of rights|bill of rights]]. Its flag has three stripes, the top and bottom are dark gray with a light gray stripe between them, and a black and white [[Wikipedia:coat of arms|coat of arms]] with images of two bats and a house. Strong Bad derisively calls the country "Blecch House". Strong Bad conquers it by burning the flag, the constitution, and the bill of rights.
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==The Cheat and Tirerea==
[[Image:TirereaFlag.png|thumb]]
The Cheat and Tirerea is a [[Wikipedia:Secession|secessionist territory]] in Strong Badia ruled by [[The Cheat]], consisting of the area near the [[tire]]. Strong Bad considers its name to be the nastiest he's ever heard. Its flag consists of a [[Powered By The Cheat]] drawing of The Cheat giving the tire a [[high five]] on a green background.

The name (at least, the Tirerea portion) may be a reference to [[Wikipedia: Eritrea|Eritrea]], an African country which broke away from [[Wikipedia:Ethiopia|Ethiopia]] in the early 1990s. It may also be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Bosnia and Herzegovina|Bosnia and Herzegovina]], one of the countries formed in the breakup of [[Wikipedia:Yugoslavia|Yugoslavia]].
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==Coachnya==
[[Image:Coachnya.png|thumb]]
Coachnya is ruled by [[Coach Z]]. Its location is unknown as it is never visited, but it is likely to be around either the [[race track]] or the [[gymnasium]], as Coach Z says it has a scoreboard. Coachnya buys up all the weapons from Concessionstan's black market in order to defeat the [[Fhqwhgads|Fhqwhgadi]] rebels.

The name of the country refers to [[Wikipedia:Chechnya|Chechnya]], an autonomous republic of the [[Wikipedia:Russia|Russian Federation]], notable for its attempts to break away from Russia since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
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==Concessionstan (Concessionstantinople)==
[[Image:ConcessionstanFlag.png|thumb]]
Conncessionstan, also known as Concessionstantinople, is ruled by [[Bubs]] and consists of his [[Bubs' Concession Stand|concession stand]]. Bubs describes it as an [[Wikipedia:Autonomy|autonomous]] [[Wikipedia:Commonwealth|commonwealth]]. Its form of government is unclear, but Bubs asserts that it is [[Wikipedia:Neutral country|neutral territory]]. Therefore, Strong Bad cannot conquer it (nor is it necessary to do so to win the game). Its flag features yellow images of the concession stand, a bear, a grenade, and an organ  against a red background, a design similar to the flags of many [[Wikipedia:communist states|communist states]].

"Concessionstan" references several places in Central and Southern Asia that use the suffix "[[Wikipedia:-stan|-stan]]", which essentially means "place of"; its usage to refer to the concession stand is both alliterative and accurate. "Concessionstantinople" is more alliterative, referring to [[Wikipedia:Constantinople|Constantinople]], presently known as Istanbul (and referenced by both names in a [[Wikipedia:Istanbul (Not Constantinople)|song]] that's been performed by [[They Might Be Giants]]).
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==Country==
[[Image:CountryFlag.png|thumb]]
Country is ruled by [[Strong Mad]], and is located at the [[stone bridge]]. Papier-mache skulls litter the landscape, and a giant [[Taranchula]] (cardboard cutout), which an unseen announcer claims to be Country's most endangered species, also occupies the area. It seems to always be night here. Strong Mad is described as the nation's "brutal but just warlord". Its flag is simply the word "COUNTRY" written by Strong Mad in all-capital black letters on a white background. Strong Bad is not impressed by the country's name or its flag.

To Strong Mad's credit, [[dragon|he spelled "Country" correctly]].
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==Homsar Reservation==
[[Image:HomsarReservationFlag.png|thumb]]
''Main Article: [[Homsar Reservation]]''

The Homsar Reservation is ruled by [[Homsar]], although what form of government it has is unclear. Indeed, little is known about the area or its inhabitant except that they speak a language no one understands. It is implied that the territory is a [[Wikipedia:developing country|developing country]], as Strong Sad is unsure if the water is safe to drink or if there is modern health care (though it turned out that they had subsidized healthcare). Its flag consists of Homsar's [[Bowler Hat]] and his parents, a cup of coffee and a chipwich, against a blue background. An unseen announcer calls it "The Dark Continent", an outdated reference to [[Wikipedia:Africa|Africa]].
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==Marzistar/Homezipan==
[[Image:MarzistarFlag.png|thumb]]
Marzistar is a country ruled together by [[Homestar Runner]] and [[Marzipan]]. Marzipan insists that the name is Marzistar, but Homestar repeatedly mistakes for Homezipan. Marzistar consists of Marzipan's front and back yards, and possibly her house. Marzipan says that "Marzistar is a hostile territory", while it seems that Homestar is a bit too concerned over declaring fruit. Marzipan refers to the country as a Free [[Wikipedia:People's Republic|People's Republic]], which might suggest that it is a [[Wikipedia:communist state|communist state]]; however, she also talks about having "[[Wikipedia:Queen|queening]]" to do, and some of her and Strong Bad's dialogue refers to Homestar as a king, suggesting that the country is a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]]. After disputes regarding the Homestarmy, Homestar and Marzipan split the country into East Marzistar (the front yard) and East Homezipan (the back yard).
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==Pompomerania==
[[Image:PompomeraniaFlag.png|thumb]]
Pompomerania is ruled by [[Pom Pom]], and appears to consist of [[Club Technochocolate]] (although Strong Bad refers to the club as being in the nation's capital, suggesting the possibility that the country has additional territory). Pom Pom is referred to as a [[Wikipedia:shogun|shogun]], a type of Japanese warlord. Bubs and (after conquering The Cheat and Tirerea) The Cheat can also be found here, tending the bar and serving as DJ, respectively. Its flag consists of a circle colored like Pom Pom against a white background, resembling the [[Wikipedia:flag of Japan|flag of Japan]].

The name refers to [[Wikipedia:Pomerania|Pomerania]], a historic region on the shores of the Baltic Sea, currently divided between (and historically contested by) [[Wikipedia:Germany|Germany]] and [[Wikipedia:Poland|Poland]].
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==Poopslovakia==
[[Image:Poopslovakia.png|thumb]]
Poopslovakia is ruled by [[The Poopsmith]]. Its location is unknown, and it is never visited during the game. Its currency is hinted to be the "poopee" and that 100 [[quesos]] is at least a million poopee by Bubs.

The end of the name is a reference to the European country [[Wikipedia:Slovakia|Slovakia]], although the full name may be a reference to the former [[Wikipedia:Czechoslovakia|Czechoslovakia]].
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==Strong Badia==
[[Image:StrongBadiaFlag.png|thumb]]
''Main Article: [[Strong Badia]]''
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==Minor Countries==

While these countries are discovered in the game and have flags, they do not figure into the end of the game.

*[[Gremlin|Frontzeatserland/Hatchbackistan]]
*[[Snap Shak|Snapshakland]]
*[[Drive-Thru Whale|50% Off Apple Pie Charts]]
*[[The Stick|Sticktenstein]]
*[[The Brick Wall|Union of Soviet Socialist Repubricks]]
*[[The Field|The People's Republic of Front-au-Fence/Backfence Revolutionaries]]

{{SBCG4AP}}
[[Category:Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]][[Category:Places]][[Category:Countries]]

couch patch

NighttimeDriver50000 — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:30:02 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Addition of exception to "fourth wall breaks"

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[[Image:sbemail88.png|thumb|Teddy Graham Memories]]

"Your pal" asks Strong Bad about the history ''behiend'' the patch on his couch.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}} (as [[Has Matt?]]), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[Lil' Strong Bad]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Cheat}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, November 10, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:01

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm going to try something a little different. ''{typing}'' print out million dollar bill.exe

''{The computer responds with "Bad command or file name"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{not typing}'' What? Oh. ''{typing}'' no for real, print me out a million dollar bill, man.exe

''{The computer responds with "Syntax error."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' um, this time really print me out a million dollars bill.nofoolin'

''{The computer responds with "Cut it out, you."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{not typing}'' What the—! Don't give me none of that crosstalk! Oh well, it was worth a shot. Now on to... ''{sighs}'' on to the e-mail.

''{Strong Bad hits enter, types "strongbad_email.exe," and hits enter again}''

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">is there a story behiend the patch 
on the couch? if so, do tell! 
 
form, 
your pal</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "behiend" as "buh-HEEND"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh, my pal! ''{typing}'' Well Palbert, it's a good story. And now you all have to hear it.

''{Cut to a flashback of Strong Bad in the basement with a sack, acting mysterious.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Seems I was looking for a place to hide all my Aztec gold. But when I made the first incision, not only did I realize that I don't have any Aztec gold,—

''{The bag falls open to reveal it was full of oil filters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —but I unleashed a stench of biblical proportions.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' They had to call in a hazmat team just to hose me hose me hose me ''{typed then deleted, typed then deleted, then typed}'' down!

''{Cut to The Poopsmith, wearing a [[Wikipedia:HAZMAT|HAZMAT]] suit labeled "Has Matt?", hosing down a screaming Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I had to spend a fortune on Glade plugins.

''{Cut to Strong Sad standing next to Strong Bad at the computer.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Now wait a second! That's not how ''I'' remember it.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and I'm sure every loser out there wants to hear your loser opinions, loser.

'''STRONG SAD:''' They do!

''{Cut to a flashback of a young Strong Bad in the basement}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I seem to remember a young Strong Bad thinking that Olympic sprinter Carl Lewis was a woman. And that he was hot!

''{Lil' Strong Bad writes "Strong Bad LUVS Carla Lewis!! and thinks shes hott!!" with a Sharpie on the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is entirely untrue.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Lies! All lies!

''{Cut to Homestar standing behind Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Clearly I'm the only one who remembers how it all went down.

''{Cut to a flashback of Homestar laying on the couch in the basement. The couch clearly has the patch already on it. Homestar spits Teddy Grahams.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' It was not so long ago that I was in Strong Bad's basement spitting Teddy Grahams all over the place. One of them got stuck to the ceiling.

''{A Teddy Graham sticks to the ceiling. Homestar spits another up at it repeatedly, trying to dislodge it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Homestar, shut up! This is about that patch on the couch. It's clearly already on there in your flashback.

''{Cut back to the two Brothers Strong and Homestar at the computer}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, oh, ohhhhh. I thought this week's e-mail was entitled "Teddy Graham Memories."

''{Cut to shadowed "This guy's voice has been digitally altered" interview session}''

'''MYSTERIOUS PERSON:''' ''{Clearly Coach Z, with his voice digitally lowered}'': No, no. I got the ''real'' scoop. Strong Bad had me over for Gumbo one night, and I don't know what kind of doodoo meat he was using in there, but I had to puke!

''{Cut to flashback of Coach Z's shadow in the basement}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I went downstairs and I noticed this little rip in the couch, so I puked in it!

''{Coach Z's shadow pukes in the couch. Cut back to interview session}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{voiceover}'' I... I'm sorry for what I done!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I liked that gumbo! I didn't use no doodoo meat. ''{shaking fist}'' If I ever find out who that guy is... Well, palbert, there's your answer. Me? I'm gonna go over there.

''{Strong Bad starts to get up from his seat, but sits down again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{not typing}'' Oh wait! ''{typing}'' make homestar's head explode.exe

''{The computer responds with "No can do." The camera pulls back so we can see Strong Sad and Homestar again}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No can do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh crap! This computer is worthless.

''{Zoom back to just Strong Bad and the computer. Strong Bad now gets up and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Million dollar bill.PNG|thumb|print million dollar bill, please.exe]]
*At the end, you can click on a hidden "print million dollar bill, please.exe" at the bottom to print an [[ASCII art]] million dollar bill from The Paper. This is more easily seen if you use the contrast knob to make the background blue. You can click on the million dollar bill once it has printed out to make it go away.
*At the end you can click on the "make homestars head explode.exe" link to cut to a short of Homestar, again spitting [[Teddy Grahams]] all over the basement.
:''{cut back to the basement. Homestar is lying on the couch spitting Teddy Grahams all over again, with The Cheat standing nearby. After a few seconds, The Cheat's head explodes}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Dang, The Cheat. That computer's got something against you. Did you ever, like, pour Mountain Dew all over it?

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*[[Wikipedia:Hazmat|Hazmat]] means "Hazardous Material." A Hazmat team, usually associated with Fire or other public safety departments, is a group of people specially trained to clean up any hazardous material spills.
*[[Wikipedia:Gumbo|Gumbo]] is a thick soup from Louisiana containing meats and vegetables (primarily okra) and often served over rice.

===Trivia===

*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#old game|old game]]".
*This is the first time we don't see The Cheat's eyes after his [[The Cheat's Head Exploding|head explodes]].

===Remarks===
*The "print out million dollar bill please.exe" Easter egg remains black if the contrast knob is adjusted and will disappear when clicked.
*There has never actually been a $1,000,000 bill. The highest currency ever printed by the U.S. Mint was a [[Wikipedia:Large denominations of United States currency|$100,000 bill]] in 1934 depicting Woodrow Wilson. It was only used among Federal Reserve Banks and was never made available for use by the general public.
*Aside from being able to type with boxing gloves on, Strong Bad appears to be able to type just as quickly with one hand as he can with two.
*Theoretically, all the stories could have been true: Lil' Strong Bad could have written on the couch and removed the ink somehow (or ripped the written-on section out of the couch resulting in the tear), Coach Z could have puked in the tear Lil' Strong Bad might have left, resulting in the "stench of Biblical proportions".
*The first time Strong Bad says "Palbert," it is capitalized, but the second time, it isn't.
*This cartoon is another example of a [[fourth wall break]], as Strong Bad says: "Homestar, shut up! This is about that patch on the couch. It's clearly already on there in your flashback."
**However, it may be that the residents of Free Country can actually see each other's "imaginations," as evidenced in [[from work]].

===Goofs===
*During Homestar's flashback, one of the spots of ceiling texture twitches and moves with the flashing of the ceiling light.
*When Coach Z's silhouetted figure is speaking, a tiny gap appears on the bill of his cap when his head moves.
*When The Paper comes down in the Easter egg there is a line jutting out on the left side of it.
*When Strong Bad puts his hand up to the screen at the end of the email in response to Coach Z, you don't see its reflection on the screen.
*In Homestar's Easter egg, The Cheat's right arm is missing.
*After The Cheat's head explodes, you can still see a small black line of his hair on the back of his head.
*When Homestar says, "No can do," he doesn't make a regular "O" mouth movement.
*In the Strong Sad flashback where Lil' Strong Bad is writing on the couch, the text on the marker (Reading "MARKER fine tip permanent") is mirrored.

===Inside References===

*In the "make homestars head explode.exe" Easter egg, Homestar Runner asks The Cheat, "Did you ever like, pour [[Mountain Dew]] all over it?", referring to the email [[anything]], in which Homestar Runner poured Mountain Dew all over Strong Bad's computer.
*The knife Strong Bad uses to cut open the couch is similar to the [[Big Knives]] of other Strong Bad Emails.
*Homestar remarking "I thought this week's e-mail was entitled 'Teddy Graham Memories.'" is another instance of [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Breaking the Fourth Wall]], as well as Strong Bad remarking on Homestar's flashback.

===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:Glade (brand)#Plug-Ins|Glade PlugIns]] are scented air fresheners that plug into electrical wall sockets.
*Little Strong Bad is wearing a shirt featuring a rather well known advertisement for [[Wikipedia:Rock City|"Rock City"]], a tourist attraction in Georgia, near Chattanooga, Tennessee.
*[[Wikipedia:Carl Lewis|Carl Lewis]] was an Olympic sprinter active during the 1980s and early 1990s. His sister [http://vm.mtsac.edu/relays/HallFame/CroLewis.htm Carol] was an Olympic long jumper.
*Teddy Grahams are any of a number of bear-shaped cookies produced by [[Wikipedia:Nabisco|Nabisco]].
*When Coach Z is silhouetted and his voice is altered, it is a reference to shows like [[Wikipedia:America's Most Wanted|''America's Most Wanted'']], where a witness wants to keep his/her identity safe. (i.e. Witness X)

===Fast Forward===

*Coach Z is silhouetted and has his voice digitally altered again in one of the [[myths & legends]] Easter eggs.
*Strong Bad again speaks in triplicate when he asks [[The Baloneyman]] what will "cool me cool me cool me down".

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail88.html|watch "couch patch"]]
*[[HR:sbemail88.swf|view the Flash file "couch patch"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

User talk:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:45:13 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:40:16 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]].
It's just a four minute drive away!
[[User:NighttimeDriver50000|-NighttimeDriver50000]]
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<math>19:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)</math>
=Hi? Does this do anything?=
I hope I'm not recording over anything important!
[[HR:stinkogame/v7/objectLibrary.swf|Object Library]]

Shield Alley?
Where did that come from?
Peasant's Quest?

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:39:43 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]].
It's just a four minute drive away!
[[User:NighttimeDriver50000|-NighttimeDriver50000]]
----
<math>19:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)</math>
=Hi? Does this do anything?=
I hope I'm not recording over anything important!
[[HR:stinkogame/v7/objectLibrary.swf|Object Library]]

''Italic text''
<nowiki>Non- formatted? Does this look any different?</nowiki>

Shield Alley?
Where did that come from?
Peasant's Quest?

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:39:21 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]].
It's just a four minute drive away!
[[User:NighttimeDriver50000|-NighttimeDriver50000]]
----
<math>19:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)</math>
=Hi? Does this do anything?=
I hope I'm not recording over anything important!
[[HR:stinkogame/v7/objectLibrary.swf|Object Library]]
''Italic text''
<nowiki>Non- formatted? Does this look any different?</nowiki>
Shield Alley?
Where did that come from?
Peasant's Quest?

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:37:58 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]].
It's just a four minute drive away!
[[User:NighttimeDriver50000|-NighttimeDriver50000]]
----
<math>19:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)</math>
=Hi? Does this do anything?=
I hope I'm not recording over anything important!
[[HR:stinkogame/v7/objectLibrary.swf|Object Library]]
Shield Alley?
Where did that come from?
Peasant's Quest?

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:36:55 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:34:58 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:34:00 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:33:08 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000:

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]].
It's just a four minute drive away!
[[User:NighttimeDriver50000|-NighttimeDriver50000]] 19:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
=Hi? Does this do anything?=

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:30:37 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Goodbye, junk.

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]]
[[Image:nightdriver.png|thumb|It's just a four minute drive away]]

User:NighttimeDriver50000

NighttimeDriver50000 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:28:20 GMT

NighttimeDriver50000: Seeing what this does

== Hello ==
Hello. [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]]
[[Image:nightdriver.png|thumb|It's just a four minute drive away]]

'''Nighttime Driving Type Game''' is a game accessible only by clicking the "O" in [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].

In this game, you must drive through oncoming traffic... at night! Move your car with the mouse.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Nightime_egg.PNG|thumb|300px|Get out of my basement!]]

*If you beat {{film|Strong Bad}}'s high score of 50,000 points, you'll get a short cutscene where Strong Bad shows you that he's now gotten a new high score, exactly one point higher than yours. You can also access this by right-clicking and pressing "Play" when you lose on the Flash File.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you beat my high score, huh? Well, check this out, I just finished this game.
:''{Cut to the game on his television screen. His score is one point higher than yours.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, tough luck, man. I guess it's back to the drawing board for you!
:''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Or, back to the Night Driving board... or, w— ''{yells}'' Get out of my basement!

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*The scoring is as follows:
**Green Car - 100
**Red Car - 500
**Police Car - 500
**Drunk Driver - 1000
*The movement of the cars are as follows:
**Green Car - Takes up one lane and can go in any.
**Red Car - Always Takes up the middle lane, moves very fast.
**Police Car - Always takes up the middle and the right lane.
**Drunk Driver (truck) - Takes up one lane, swerves from the left lane to the right lane most of the time, but on occasion, goes from the right lane to the left.

===Remarks===
*It's not possible to get a score one point higher than another score, like Strong Bad says he did, considering that all point values are multiples of 100.
*In [[SBCG4AP]], Strong Bad's room is not in his basement.
**Assuming that the website is correct and not the game, this is the first time his room is verified to be connected to the basement. This fact is revisited in [[nightlife]].

===Goofs===
*If you look closely at the TV in the Easter egg when the camera is focusing on Strong Bad, the points counter is in the correct position, but, when it focuses on the TV the points counter is in the wrong position as opposed to the actual game. Also, there is no life counter as opposed to the game which, of course, has it.

===Glitches===
[[Image:Nighttime_type_highscore.png|thumb|Two digits are cut off here.]]
*You still earn points for any vehicle that passes your wrecked vehicle.
*You can crash 2–3 times in rapid succession yet only lose one life (in other words, crashing, then immediately crashing again).
*The game sometimes loads data where the green cars always drive on the right side of the road (from your perspective), and the trucks swerve left, then right, meaning if you stay in the left lane, you'll never die. This is more likely to happen in the Flash file.
*Right-click and deselect play for unlimited lives. When you run out of lives, your lives will show as "-" (a minus sign) and you can keep playing. Select "play" again to get the "game over" screen.
**Sometimes while exploiting this glitch, some vehicles will never appear.
*If you untick play at the game over screen, it goes to the Easter Egg, no matter what score you obtained.
*If you get over 100,000 points, the score will appear to reset to 10,000. This is due to the game only displaying the first five digits in the score; the counter still has the actual score stored.
**When you access the high-score Easter egg, if your score is over 100,000, Strong Bad's score will appear to be the same as yours due to this glitch, unless you highlight the score, revealing the digits after the first 5.
*If you crash into another car, and a drunk driver is there, the drunk driver will crash even though you didn't hit it.

===Inside References===
*The source of the Easter egg is the [[Strong Bad Main Page]], where he brags that he's got the high score of 50,000 points, and challenges you to beat it.
*The "Drunk Drivers" are examples of [[alcohol]].

===Real-World References===
*The game itself is based on the [[Atari 2600]] game "[[Wikipedia:Night Driver|Night Driver]]", which in turn was based on the 1976 arcade game of the same name.
*Strong Bad beating the player's high score by one point when the player scores more than 50,000 point may be a reference to the Marathon Man in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time]]. The Marathon Man will challenge Link to a race from the Gerudo Valley to the Kokiri Forest and when Link finishes, the Marathon Man always beats him by one second.

==See Also==
*[[Strong Bad's Message Bored]]
*[[Armless Invaders]]
*[[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge]]

==External Links==
*[[HR:boredgames.html|Go to the Message Bored]] and click on the "O" in "Bored"
*[[HR:superbored.swf|View the Flash file for the Message Bored]]

[[Category:Games]]