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OWIE! — Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:11:46 GMT

OWIE!:

==Technical junk==
I'm kinda miffed that someone removed my comment about the broken JPEG icon being from Mozilla. I thought it was interesting. Oh well. And this sentence about Linux--The name is often thrown around as a buzzword by those who do not know what it is, which explains Strong Bad's absolutely random use of the name--sounds rather pompous, even condescending. ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]] 11:44, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
:You would expect a red X, with The Brothers Chaps being M$IE users. '''Update:''' Oh wait, maybe they're not. -[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]] 16:09, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)

maybe not, maybe they just assume that most of their fans use ie and thats why they always make the webpages appear like ie error pages.
-[[User:Clever Dan|Clever Dan]]

==Mac popup?==
Is the thing explaining how the Mac OS X popup looks really necessary? Why wouldn't it be otherwise? And complete with a screenshot? No offence, just seems kinda obvious. ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]] 19:56, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
:I'm more bothered by it not being a thumbnail, as is seemingly standard nowadays.
:Also... about this line:
:"It also seems to be able to evade pop-up blockers. Uh oh, don't let the ad companies find out about this..."
:What pop-up blocker are you using? Both SP2 and Google blocked the pop-up until I told them to trust HSR.com, so that doesn't hold true. At all. [[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:45, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
::[[User:Aero|Aero]] has brought up a good point here-- the needless screenshot seems to make this already long article (mainly due to the long transcript) even longer. The fact that Mac OS X displays popups with a different bar across the top would be justified if, on [[The System Is Down]] or [[Not the 100th Email!!!]], there were a discussion on how "This Page Cannot Be Displayed" only applies to people using the Internet Explorer browser. The overall point being the TBC most likely chose to display popups in the style that they did expecting the most number of users to be using the aforementioned browser (along with Windows). And of course there are going to be users of other browsers and operating systems. I'm sure most of us can agree that we are able to imagine what the differences may be without the need for a screenshot. --[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:35, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
::I'm of the opinion that the Mac OS X thing doesn't belong. It just doesn't seem all that important. I mean, I noticed it was a popup window right away due to my using WinXP, but I didn't create a fun fact about it. The image just makes it worse, on top of things. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 22:18, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

==Name of file?==
Do we really need the name of the "Making out with Marzipan" file in the Fun Facts? I mean, it's being linked to already, and I don't recall things like that being in the Fun Facts for any other e-mail...

== Wow ==

Strange, he wasn't nearly as dramatic when the Tandy exploded. And he pretty much threw it away after a while. This e-mail has "new computer" written all over it.

:I get the impression that the Tandy was just some computer he happened to have, maybe he just inherited it from someone else or something, whereas the Compy 386 was something he specifically went out and got, himself, to replace the Tandy. So he's bound to have more emotional attachment to it. --[[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]], 2004.11.19 20:36GMT

::Actually, Strong Sad says in [[gimmicks]] that SB bought the Tandy at a garage sale for $15... But also the Tandy's demise was a freak occurance AND he patched it back up to work (for better or worse) two e-mails later, whereas Compy's demise was at the hands of someone specifically (Bubs) and was beyond repair (though if you think about, after [[gimmicks]], the Tandy wasn't in such great shape either...) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

::: Strong Sad didn't say that SB bought the Tandy for $15 - he said that SB COULD buy a computer LIKE the Tandy for $15. Technically, we don't know where or when he got the Tandy. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:49, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::I sit corrected. I guess I always heard it the other way.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:56, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Well...He has answered more e-mails with the Compy...--[[User:Omega|Omega]]

::IF you listen to the commentary on one of the emails on the Strong Bad DVD, mike talks about getting Strong Bad a "Lappy 486." Then, the virus email came along and wa-la, new computer. Oh yeah, Mike talks about a 'Lappy 486. ' Strong Bad gets a 'Lappy 386.'--[[User:Harry|[[User:Harry|..:Harry:..]]]] 19:17, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::No, it was a [[Compy 386]]. His Lappy is most assuredly a [[Lappy 486]] as Mike mentioned. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Oops. Sorry about that. I'm...dumb. Really.--[[User:Harry|[[User:Harry|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:Harry|..:Harry:..]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] ]] 10:42, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

My bad--[[User:Harry|[[User:Harry|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:Harry|..:Harry:..]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] ]] 16:27, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Just a heads up... ==

I've noticed that in previous e-mails that they've singled out occasions where everyone was used. This one come's close so I was wondering if anyone spotted Homsar besides the little Strong Mad sound effect.

:Not I, and it doesn't matter anyway - Pom-Pom is absent as well. - [[User:Jay|Jay]]

== Slight correction ==

I think Strongbad's line early on in the email is "Like the kind that ''mobs in'' offshore casinos send you?", not Moms. Makes more sense anyway, since mobs have been rumored to run, among other things, casinos, and though the idea of mobs distributing viruses is absurd, it pokes fun at the misinformation and paranioa most people have concerning viruses.
:I thought about that, but I listened to it a few times and it still kind of sounded like "moms," so I just left it in. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 22:15, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
:Actually, "moms" and "offshore casinos" together do make sense. Appearantly, you haven't seen nearly as much spam as I have. ;) --[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pidgeot Pidgeot] 16:15, 16 Nov 2004 (CET)
:Agreed... the "moms" in question are probably not very computer-savvy and would not be aware that they are sending viruses to people in their address book, such as their kids. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 20:47, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)
The line about "Moms" is probably a reference to the Mother's Day Virus that appeared a couple of years ago. And casinos send you crap all the time. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]<<Yes, that was me. Sorry, forgot to log in. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|MFCUSA]]

== Denny's Menu ==

Now that Compy is more or less gone, shouldn't there be a new sbemail menu? Didn't they do this with Tandy?
:Well No Name, they can't do it NOW. If they would've, it would have ruined the surprise if you accessed the email via the sbemail menu. They'll probably change it next week or so. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:53, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)
::Did they change it 1 week after [[gimmicks]]? -[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]] 16:13, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
:::Yes! After "gimmicks" the email menu was replaced with a pad of paper with the list on it. -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:08, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Bubs's left arm ==

:You may not notice it at first, but when Bubs walks by for the first time his left arm is stuck in a [[Dancin' Bubs]] position as well. He is not really moving it back and forth from carrying Homestar's leg/Shotgun. This is actually position #4. Just thought I would clear things up.

== The old girl working again? ==
Maybe strong bad will fix the compy like he fixed the tandy? I remember being shocked that it was still there after I witnessed it blowing up.-[[User:Clever Dan|Clever Dan]]
:Doubtful, since Bubs is selling it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:And besides, I don't see how you're going to get it working again with that gaping hole through most of its body. -Walking Armless

== "Fun" facts ==

Many of these "''fun facts''" are neither accepted facts nor particularly fun. -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:14, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I agree. I also think that the word "reference" is used ''way'' too much.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:38, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Yeah. I commented about this on the [[Talk:Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Email Talk]]. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

:::I think one thing that we should start cracking down on is fun facts clearly already noted in the Transcript. (such as Homestar having Old Timey Homestar's body or Strong Sad's heads being from Strong Sad's Lament). In fact, that's what I'm thinking of doing right about now. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 09:30, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)
:::EDIT: I did do some of this cleaning, but I still think there's more that could be nixed, somehow. We'll have to put our heads together and figure this out.

::Agreed re: "reference" There's a difference between references and superficial similarities. -- [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 20:46GMT

Oh, check this out! Before the scene of a TGS style piece of paper, with the text "issue 3.14159265 and the rest" at the top, and [[The Ugly One]] extends her arm and starts slapping [[The King of Town]] is shutting down, it would ''also'' have an audio which goes like this: [[http://lacinqtv.free.fr/jingle_antenne_court.mp3 Audio 1]] or [[http://lacinqtv.free.fr/generique_derniere_emission.mp3 Audio 2]]. '''Note: These audio files are from the former french TV-channel [http://lacinqtv.free.fr La Cinq] (This site is only available in french).''' --[[User:81.225.112.108|81.225.112.108]] 07:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST) [[User:Maudi Algabban|Maudi Algabban]]

== Strong Man? ==

Who keeps putting Marzipan as saying "Strong Man"? It's not like the sound is very distinct. Context makes it clear that she's saying "Strong Mad". - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 19:36, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

== The "Gibberish" Sound ==

I'm probably wasting my time, but I started fooling around with the weird gibberish sounds heard from Marzipan and the glitched Quote of the Day to see if there was any meaning to them. After applying several filters to the original wave file, I've been able to make out the following quote:

"(blah blah blah) this music... and the design... and (blah blah) musician"

Take a listen and see if you can make it out too.

[http://bastard.popexperiment.com/kamek/gibberish.wav Original gibberish]
[http://bastard.popexperiment.com/kamek/gibberish2.wav "New" gibberish]

:There's definitely something there, I think, but we're never gonna be able to figure out what just by listening to it, no matter how we process the sound. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 22:01, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

::That's pretty creepy. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

:Hmm... I listened to it again I ''think'' she's still talking about the stack of VHS tapes. I think she's not saying "(blah blah) musician", but "and the composition", i.e., the design and composition of the, um, VHS tapes (you know, making a big deal out of it like it were an art sculpture, not unlike Marzipan). I can't hear the "c" in "composition" there, but it could have been filtered out or something. I could be way off, though. The word "design" sticks out pretty well but the rest is just muddled. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 23:24, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)

Is it just me, or does the beginning and end of the original gibberish sound a little bit like the opening theme from the first season of Digimon?

:It's probably you. But I've never seen it. And that comment wasn't necessary. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

Hey! I think I got what Marzipan is trying to say! Look. I used Creative and tweaked the sounds a bit! It sounded like... On the contrary the music and the violin need the auto face rubber...? Umm I don't think I heard it right but thats what I got so far.--[[Omega]] If you need to talk to me or have any question or comments visit my talk page.[[User Talk:Omega|Talk]]

:Months later, I've stumbled upon this discussion, and here's what I hear it as: "It accentuates music, and the design, and the composition..." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 09:17, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

Wow, that's cool, keep us posted if u get it working better (i mean u can fully decipher it.) -- [[User:Deoxyman|Deoxyman]]|[[User Talk:Deoxyman|Talk 2 Me!]]

*It just takes me to some page about Half life 2. [[User:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

== Pruning ==

I just went and slashed a lot of fun facts. I also separated the references for now, just because there are so many (and some are disputed). This might be temporary, and don't think it'd be necessary to create a "References" section for every e-mail, just reference-heavy ones. I'm not entirely happy with that, since in some cases it's hard to figure out if something is more of a fun fact or a reference. But this is just a start and it might help bring some order from the chaos. (I also did my best to order the references in the rough order they appear in the e-mail, so it'll be easier to find the one you want to edit/remove/etc.) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 08:17, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Just to clarify, the idea in separating the references from the fun facts now is so that both can be pruned more efficiently. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 08:27, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

::If we do it on this e-mail we should do it on all of them (if needed). Should we get to work on this? Or is it already in progress? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

:I disagree that it'd be necessary for all the other e-mails. I mean, really, is it that necessary that every e-mail page follow precisely the same format? It's good to be consistent, but also bear in mind that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds". I don't see advantages in doing it for all the other e-mails. I do see advantages in doing it for this one, at least until we get the list sorted out. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 17:17, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I think if this one needs it, all others need it (except for ones who have no references in them). If we don't let Strong Bad e-mails follow the same format, why not let the transcripts follow their own format, or the toons? I think it's definately necessary for all Strong Bad E-mails to follow the same format. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

::You don't understand. You ''all'' understand. I mean, don't understand. Well, anyway, the difference is that transcripts, toons, etc. follow the same general format because there is usually no significant reason to deviate. On the other hand, most of them don't have "fun facts" sections filling up a third of the page, either. You say they all need to follow precisely the same format, but I must ask you: why? This isn't arbitrary format fiddling. I stated my case (which you didn't argue with), and I also said that it will probably be temporary. Tell me, what brings greater benefit: trying to organize the <s>mess</s> mass of <s>dumb</s> fun facts, or sticking to the same old format for no reason other the sake of sticking to a format? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 08:02, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

:::I'm not trying to get into some big argument here. Just a head's up.

:::I'm not saying ditch the format thing. I love the idea, but I think it should be with every e-mail, and not just ones with loads of referencs. Just think- wouldn't be more organized? If one e-mail has a load of references in it, we could put a sub-heading for "references", but why not all other e-mails with references, even if it's only three? I feel it would be easier to find, as well as look real nice. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

=== STUFF'D! ===
I talked with [[User:Tom|Tom]] about it, and we decided that we should try out the idea of a fun fact approval page. This is just for trying it out: we haven't committed to it yet, especially not without the approval of the other administrators, but there should be no harm in trying it on just one page. There's also a [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1320 forum thread] on whether or not we should do it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 22:58, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I think it's a good idea. I just think that the note on the virus e-mail (or any other e-mail) should be brought down to around

:"There are more fun facts in STUFF. Please go there to view them."

:Or somethin' like that. But this is pretty awesome. F'real. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

::Well, I want users to understand what's going on. So far, they don't: ''nobody'' has posted anything on the STUFF page, they just keep posting (worthless) "fun" "facts" here. So I also added short footers that read something like that. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Crossing the 4th Wall ==
I disagree with the last fun fact. Never do the characters acknowledge that they are CARTOONS. In the homestar universe, the strong bad emails (as the cheat is watching on his computer in huttah!) are analogous to live TV shows in our universe. Similarly, all the other instances can be explained by assuming that Strong Bad and co. are aware that people are watching them, but just as a live show.

:Well, that's what the [[HRWiki:STUFF]] page is for. If you don't like a fun fact (and it hadn't gone through the process already), just move it there. I'll do it for ya this time. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 23:33, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I believe it is vaild to discuss the content of article on the talk page. That is what it is for. This is appropriate use of this page. - [[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 00:17, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

== New "glitch" ==

I'm a bit skeptical about this new glitch:
*On some browsers, this email doesn't work properly. First, the "Click On The Monkey" popup never appears even after disabling pop up blockers, then all the animation (except for the characters blinking) stops during the Strong Mad and Marzipan section.
What browsers are we talking about here? At the very least, we should list what changes from browser to browser. I haven't noticed any difference from Firefox to IE. I'm thinking this glitch might be due to a particular user's settings. As such, I've removed it from the article for now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:05, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

:It is probably my settings that lead to this. I'm using Win XP, with SP2. Due to my administrator not seeing how good Firefox is, I'm using IE 6, with Norton Internet Security 2005 installed. I have no idea why this causes the above to happen, or why it always takes me to Main Page 1 instead of NaN. It just does. [[User:Venusy|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 10:35, 12 Feb 2005 (Whatever timezone the UK is in)
::Firefox isn't THAT much better than IE... I mean, it '''is''' better and a little more stable, but it's not the internet browser from ''God'' everyone makes it out to be... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 12:05, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Don't TAPE it ==

The fake QOD box says "Hear it!" and "Don't TAPE it" at the bottom. I would have added this to the Fun Facts myself, but I'm not sure where to put it. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 22:07, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Strong Mad's M ==

when Strong Mad becomes a big M it's a secret reference to here
:[http://homestarrunner.com/yearbooksm.html Strong Mad's Yearbook Page]
::--[[User:Deoxyman|Deoxyman]]

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

=== The Number 423,827 ===
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Real virus?===
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.
*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''"So and So, I'm thinking you're DECLINED!"''' I think somebody just "random letter'd" TBC, and they made an email about it being a virus. Like Kvb said, it's gotta be a "virus" they made up.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:45, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Quadratic formula ===
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
**'''Comment.''' Actually, it's used to find solutions to quadratic equations, or zeros of quadratic functions or polynomials. --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== Pi ===
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits
of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an
[[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest"
would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits
of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"), which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== Gilligan's Island? (Declined) ===
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
**'''second''' -- [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- "And the rest" is a common phrase, and without anything else reminiscent of Gilligan's Island I think it's too much of a stretch to consider this a reference. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:59, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== Strong Sad's blog (Declined) ===
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==I could have sworn...==
*I always thought strong bad said "I can't remember your name, Stavey. I also thought he said "Dear Strong Bad, I attachded boxinggloves on", not "How do you text with boxing gloves on"
Learn somthin' new ev'ry day (except Boogady Day, which is on the 39 of Junetember. [[User:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

Talk:virus

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User talk:OWIE!

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OWIE!:

User talk:Jay/Archive3

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:57:56 GMT

OWIE!:

==Splitting even the small pages==
Jay, did you REALLY have to split the email pages that had only one or two fun facts? That just makes things a lot more cluttered as far as layout goes. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:16, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

: Yes I did. Consistency. And it's not THAT cluttered, compared to the way that the newer emails used to be. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:45, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Mr. So-and-so-er-sad ==

Dear Jay,

Did you know So and So's t-shirt has Strong Sad's face on it?

[[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 17:07, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

WOW! NO WAY! I hadn't noticed that! In no way is that already in the transcript that I wrote the first draft of in the first place! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:15, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

[[fingers|Frustration of frustrations! It's all they ever add!]] -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 23:07, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Updating standards ==

Hi there Jay. If you're still up for it, you can add those fun fact changes to the [[HRWiki:Standards]] page. I think that might ease your frustrations a bit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:36, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Actually, this is my last update before I have to go to class. But if someone else doesn't, I may just add them in, oh, about an hour. Also, I'm in an easily-frustratable mood today (cat kept me up last night.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:40, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Poor little kitty. Yeah, there is no rush. I think we can all wait a few hours or so.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:46, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

::: More like poor little me when she doesn't want to let me sleep (which is fortunately not most nights.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:37, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

== I apologize ==
Ok, look Jay, I'm sorry I crapped up the sightings page. I might be able to save it. I saved the page before I edited it, like I always do. I think I can copy everything on that page I saved and paste it over the text I crapped up. It's risky, but it's worth a shot. [[User:unknown|unknown]] 3/22/05 10:01

:It has already been reverted. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:19, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Labor Dabor modification ==

The reason "SPARE!" is a phrase instead of a word is because it has punctuation (the exclamation mark) as part of it. Words don't come with any punctuation attached to them, which is why I thought it should be referred to as a phrase as opposed to a word. Just for the sake of backing up my argument, I'd like to say that it IS possible for a phrase to consist of just one word.

That is to say, if it had just been "SPARE", then I would certainly agree with you that it was just a word. -- [[User:Whybrid|Whybrid]] 15:07, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Pom Pom is a Player. ==

Much of the humor of Pom Pom revolves around the idea that he is a real ladies man. I feel very sure that this...

"*When Homestar says that some lady gave Pom Pom a hundred bucks, it is likely a reference to the house that was giving out change, as mentioned in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]]."

... is not correct. It has nothing to do with The House that Gave Sucky Treats

How would it be appropriate to say that one of Pom Pom's many "girlfriends" gave him money for some mysterious reason? The brothers Chaps are trying to be risqué here, but how much does hrwiki want the implications of their suggestiveness to be spelled out?
: Because Pom Pom's many girlfriends live on the Isle of Pom, of course! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:20, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Baleeted! ==

Thanks for detrolling my page! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Anything for a beautiful woman!* --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

* - I don't know that you're beautiful, and even though all evidence seems to point that way, I don't even technically know that you're a woman. But you're a fellow HR Wikipedian with a lot of useful edits, and that's gotta count for something. :p

== Oops! ==
Sorry. I thought benedetto was blenedetto. Wrong me bes = very yes.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:18:27 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting and I'd assume that most of Homestar Runner's viewers know a green or a blue background when they see it. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' But your reason is not what I'm declining it for. I'm declining it because it belongs on the [[DELETED]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:59, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I've noted this fact on the DELETED page. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:41, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' It's a pretty interesting thing to note out. It has potential, and with a little rewording I think it'll be ok. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:58, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It ''is'' pretty interesting. So much so there's a '''whole page devoted to it'''! This has been noted twice above. In addition, there's a link to it in the article in question. If anything, a Fast Forward reference might be added. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[rampage]]===
====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[i love you]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads)
*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
*'''Decline''' Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Oh, so you're sayin' I'm lyin', huh? Well I'm not...what would I put it up for? Publicity? I didn't give my name OR his. Well, whatever. I give up. For now. But I'm just tryin' to say it wasn't based on the I love you virus is all. I dont care about any of the other stuff. It's just what's there now is an incorrect statement, and I want people to know the truth is all-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
*Anyone could claim to have sent any paticular e-mail. We're not saying you're lying, we're saying that you're going to be 1100hard up to prove it %100. For now? This isn't your website, you can't force people to accept a "fact" that has been reasonably rejected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I agree with you entirely. Go ahead and delete it.By "for now" I meant that if I get enough information that I think you'll like it, I'll try again (if that's okay with you guys). -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600, with his apologies to the Wiki for making such a fuss]]

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
*'''Decline.''' I guess some people have never seen actual people-sized paper parasols. Marzipan's is not a drink parasol, it's an Asian-style paper one! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' Man, what a dumblecake. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I'm a dumblecake too then. I didn't realize just *how* similar a drink parasol resembles a real parasol till I looked up the two right now. An honest mistake on whoever's part, no need for insults.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***You're insulted by the term "dumblecake?" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:30, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The first part doesn't matter, and the second part doesn't make sense, or have anything to so with the first part! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:05, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Buleeted''' It's a '''word!''' [[User:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Double Deuce!''' I Theving took the words outta my mouth!(PS I changed my last message here because before I wasn't a member but I just signed up) [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline.''' It's self-explanatory that one would need to go down into a basement. So just because a character hasn't been seen going down the stairs doesn't mean that the basement is right next to the computer room...Then it wouldn't be a basement, would it?---[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal
**'''Secondidateing the countryside!''' I agree. This is a great fact and I son't see why it was removed in the first place.--
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1. Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[best thing]] ===
==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Actual Decline.''' All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[car]] ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====
Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
==== Meh ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

part-time job

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:45:20 GMT

OWIE!: /* Trivia */

[[Image:sbemail121.PNG|thumb|Look out for Number 1! ]]

'''Strong Bad Email #121'''

Strong Bad proves he does more than just write e-mails, by showing everyone his part-time job!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]/[[Tragic Clown Dog]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]]/[[Tito]], [[Bubs]], [[Coach Z]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Mrs. Bennedetto]]

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Stage]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' January 3, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:29

== Transcript ==

''{As usual, Strong Bad is in front of his Lappy, checking his e-mail. Judging from the view of the room we can see around the Lappy, however, he does not seem to be at his desk, as he usually would be.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': A lot of ladies and a lot of girls... some healthy ladies and some healthy girls!
<pre>subject: besides..
Dear Strongbad,
Do you do anything besides checking e-mails?

Sincerely, Hunter</pre>

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Waudju- gighi- ikuh... What do you mean do I do anything else besides checking e-mails. 'Course I freakin' do! I do everything! Always! ''{clears the screen}'' Nature walks, Meet N' Greets, Bus Chucker Club, The League of Me and The Cheat Ice Cream Socials. Shut up! I even have a part-part-part-part-very part-time job, to which I am currently 15 minutes late.

''{Cut to the lower area of Marzipan's kitchen. Strong Bad has apparently been checking this e-mail under Marzipan's kitchen table. Homestar walks in, and is holding a tennis ball.}''

''{Strong Bad looks around in a panicked way.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': This is perfect! Just perfect! I couldn't be happier with my new invention! I'll call it... the Super Question Machine!!

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{whispering}'' I gotta try to sneak out of here without Homestar noticing me.

''{Homestar sets his tennis ball down on the table.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gonna need a diversion of some kind...

''{The Cheat walks in, humming to himself, wearing a top hat entitled "Tito" and a bowtie, and holding a cane. Homestar turns around to look at him. The camera pans left. The Cheat begins doing a dance.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, wow! What a great new invention!

''{Strong Bad crawls out from under the table, and gives The Cheat the thumbs up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nice work, The Cheat!

''{He proceeds to crawl away, while The Cheat's still humming.}''

''{Cut to Bubs' empty concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly while peeking out from behind the black}'' Perfect! Bubs must be passed out on the floor again.

''{Strong Bad disappears behind the screen, and begins walking toward the Stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Comin' in to work on time..

''{Bubs pops up from under the counter. Strong Bad lets out a short yell.}''

'''BUBS:''' Aha!

'''STRONG BAD:''' {''Yells, then stutters a little.''}

'''BUBS:''' Late again, Strong Bad. I'm not running a country club, you know.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Quickly}'' But Mr. Bubs, I was just-

'''BUBS:''' ''{Interrupts}'' Wastin' time with that email show of yours again. That mess'll never get you anywhere!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes it will! You'll see! I'm gonna be big one day. I'm gonna be a famous email checker.

'''BUBS:''' And I'm gonna be two times two. Now put on your uniform and get to work!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're gonna be ''what''?

''{The screen fades out and resumes to Strong Bad wearing a combination of a sad clown and a hotdog costume in front of Bubs' stand. Strong Bad is holding a paper, and a stack of papers sits next to him.}''

''The papers all say:''

<pre>GET YOU A FREE CUP OF ICE WITH PURCHASE OF DELUXE CUP OF ICE OF EQUAL OR LESSER VALUE
BUBS' CONSESSION STAND</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! Come on down to Bubs' and get you a free cup of ice with purchase of deluxe cup of ice of equal or lesser value.

'''BUBS:''' No, no. Work it, son, work it!

''{Strong Bad begins dancing and humming.}''

'''BUBS:''' That's it, that's it! Look out for Number 1!

''{Coach Z walks in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, it's the hot dog clown! What fun!

''{Pom Pom's silhouette merges in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom, take a picture of me with the hot dog clown. It'll be classic!

''{Pom Pom bubbles, and takes out a camera. A huge flash is seen, and a camera shutter sound is heard. Coach Z falls over, leaning on Strong Bad.}

''{The camera zooms in to Bubs.}''

'''BUBS:''' Pictures with the tragic clown dog ain't free! Fifty bucks! ''Sixty'' bucks! Get back here and let me confiscate y'all film!
'' {The camera zooms back out to the four of them.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{running}'' Chorce, forsh! ''{He and Pom Pom run off screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a great day at Bubs' Concession Stand! Sign up now for giving us money!

'''BUBS:''' Now isn't this better than sitting at your desk answerin' emails?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Actually I was sitting under a kitchen table this week and.. uh oh! The Lappy's probably almost out of juice! I gotta get back and end this email! Uhh.. say Bubs, I'm gonna need now off. Is that cool?

'''BUBS:''' Is Strong Sad cool?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh come on.

'''BUBS:''' You know all my policies! I'm not running a country club, you know.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay then I quit.

'''BUBS:''' Fine! But don't even think about swiping that costume!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You made me buy this costume, remember?

'''BUBS:''' Oh. Right. Well then pleasure doing business with you.

''{Strong Bad runs off in the costume.}

''{We cut back to the kitchen, where The Cheat has fallen over, still humming, and Homestar is standing over him. Strong Bad, now without costume, crawls back in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This is the most amazing undersea epic ever filmed.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' See, Hunter? I got all types of stuff going on. I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are. I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-

''{The Lappy powers down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh great. The battery ran out. I gotta figure out a way to end this email.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.

''{Cut to Mrs. Bennedetto. Strong Bad slaps a paper on it with some text and a picture of him on it.}''

<pre>yeah buddy,
i have muscles!

ps: preeeeow</pre>

''{The Paper DOES NOT come down on its own!}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on "Bus Chucker Club" to see a post-it of Strong Bad's member badge.
* Click on "preeeeow" to make [[The Paper]] come down.
* Click on the microwave's "Broast" button to see "[[Hundredaire Socialite|Hundredaire Socialite magazine]]", featuring "The Brains Behind [[Videlectrix]]".
* Click on the "Power" button to watch an extra scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.

=== Easter Egg Transcript ===
''{Cut to Bubs on the Stage from [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. We see a pamphlet:}''
<pre> T H E A T E R
Dreamaway
Johnny

A Sweet 3-Acter
Directed by Strong Bad
Starring:
Strong Bad and Buh-Hubs, man</pre>

''{The pamphlet zooms out. We see Bubs is standing in front of a cut-out of his stand reading MR LEGARM'S Bubs Stand. Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''BUBS AS MR. LEGARM:''' Well look who decided to show up. Fifth time this week, Johnny.

'''STRONG BAD AS JOHNNY:''' Oh I'm sorry Mr. Legarm. Honest I am! I just-

'''MR. LEGARM:''' ''{interrupting}'' You just what? Lost track of time?

'''JOHNNY:''' Yes sir. Only I wouldn't have to worry about that if I could just get the Johnny-Tron working.

'''MR. LEGARM:''' You still wastin' time workin' on that time machine, Johnny? That's a pipe dream, son! Your future's here at the shop. Now sweep up! I got customers to tend to.

'''JOHNNY:''' You'll see. Someday... someday...

''{Music starts, and a spotlight goes over to Strong Bad.}''

'''JOHNNY:''' ''{singing}'' When all my dreams come.. truuuuuuuuue.

''{As he sings the word "true" the orchestra hits a climactic chord. The audience claps; the curtain closes.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The clock on Mrs. Blennedetto is stuck on 9:48.
*This email is the first to show the back of the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] clearly. (It was obscured by Strong Bad's arm in [[animal]]) It is the 3rd time Strong Bad has checked his email in an unusual place; he has also checked his e-mail on Pom-Pom's [[Pom Pilot]] in [[the bird]] and later on [[Tangerine Dreams]] in [[weird dream]].
*In the picture of himself that Strong Bad puts on Mrs. Blennedetto at the end of the email, his left hand does not have a boxing glove on it and you can see three fingers. This is the first time we have seen Strong Bad's fingers or hand without the boxing gloves on.
*This is only the fourth email where strong Bad's email song does not include the word "email".
*This is the only email where you manually have to make the paper come down at the end of it.
* This is the second time Bubs criticized Strong Bad about his "email show". the first time was in the email [[the process]].
*This is the first time Strong Bad answer's an email in a house that he entered unwelcome and Homestar is welcome there. Usually Strong Bad answers emails in his house and Homestar enters unwelcome.

===Remarks===
*Bubs has apparently discontinued his "free weekly spamvertisements" from [[unused emails]], from which Strong Bad was making $1250 (5000 emails x a quarter each) every time he sold a disk of addresses.
*Notice Bubs' promotion is the opposite of what would be sensible: You can get two cups of ice while paying only for the one that costs less or the same. This is the same kind of logic which allows [[The King of Town]] to have "earned a free combo meal by purchasing one of equal or lesser value".
*When Strong Bad is late to work, he grabs the frame of the cartoon, another confusion as to whether he knows he's in a cartoon or not.
*Apparently the Lappy 486 also comes with a wireless Internet card. Either that or Strong Bad downloaded his emails before heading to Marzipan's.
*The Lappy has a battery life of 5 minutes, but this email lasts only 3 minutes 9 seconds and the Lappy cuts off. However, it's explainable by the fact that not every moment is accounted for, such as Strong Bad going to and returning from [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], and Strong Bad putting on his costume, not to mention the time it took for the Lappy to boot up.
*Strong Bad also has an unspecified job at [[The Office]].
*Hunter's question was effectively answered just 10 emails ago in [[other days]].

===Goofs===
*You can still make the circles appear on the LCD screen when the power shuts off.
*You can also make the circles apear when the scene swithces to the microwave at the end really quickly.
*The paper's "preeow" sound starts but gets cut off after less than a second when it cuts to the microwave.
*You can keep clicking on "preeow" to make the Paper come down again and again.

===Inside References===
* The "Hundredaire Socialite magazine" easter egg features the familiar faces of [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]]; the photo is from [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].
*The Cheat wearing the top hat may be a reference to [[theme park]]. ''(also see Real-World References)''
*Buh-Hubs was a filename in [[big white face]].
*"Hundredaire" was also used in the email "[[suntan]]".
* "preeeeow" is what Strong Bad says in [[autobiography]] and [[haircut]], when attempting to prompt the printer to print out [[The Paper]].
*The confused sounds Strong Bad makes at the beginning of the cartoon are almost identical to the ones he utters near the end of [[Everybody to the Limit]].
*When Strong Bad says "I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are," he is referring to his description of [[Senor Cardgage]] in the email [[kind of cool]].
*The sound the Lappy makes when shutting down is the same sound from [[gimmicks]] (when the Tandy's display goes blank), [[caffeine]] (when Strong Sad no longer was caffeinated), and [[dangeresque 3]] when Strong Bad changed the signature (john newell, on) to john newell, off.
*The cup of ice is first referenced in [[no loafing]], as part of Bubs' Thirty Cent Lunch Special.
*When Strong Bad sings "I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-", it is in the same tune as the first Lappy e-mail rap ("Scroll buttons and The Lappy together at last...")

===Real-World References===
*The Cheat wearing the top hat might be a parody of 80's "One Hit Wonder" TACO and his cover of "Puttin' On the Ritz".
*The Tragic Clown Dog's necktie bends upwards like [[Wikipedia: Dilbert|Dilbert's]].
*Homestar doesn't demonstrate how his Super Question Machine works (which is just a tennis ball), but it could be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Magic 8-ball|Magic 8-ball]].
*The pamphlet reading "Theater" in the Easter Egg is a reference to the ubiquitous [[Wikipedia: Playbill|Playbill]] in Broadway shows.
*The name "Mr. Legarm" is probably a reference to the old saying of "... will cost you an arm and a leg", since Bubs is known to charge more for something than it's worth (such as when he charges $20 for severe pummelings)

== Glitches ==
* After watching the "Power easter egg," the paper is down even if you haven't clicked on "preeeow".
* On some earlier versions of Flash, you can hear the printer's scratching noise even before you click on "preeeow".
* Many users could see this flash if they clicked e-mail even if it doesn't say they updated the e-mail yet.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail121.html|watch "part-time job"]]
*[[HR:sbemail121.swf|view the Flash file for "part-time job"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1652 forum thread re: part-time job]
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Coach Z Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]]

part-time job

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:44:43 GMT

OWIE!: /* Trivia */

[[Image:sbemail121.PNG|thumb|Look out for Number 1! ]]

'''Strong Bad Email #121'''

Strong Bad proves he does more than just write e-mails, by showing everyone his part-time job!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]/[[Tragic Clown Dog]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]]/[[Tito]], [[Bubs]], [[Coach Z]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Mrs. Bennedetto]]

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Stage]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' January 3, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:29

== Transcript ==

''{As usual, Strong Bad is in front of his Lappy, checking his e-mail. Judging from the view of the room we can see around the Lappy, however, he does not seem to be at his desk, as he usually would be.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': A lot of ladies and a lot of girls... some healthy ladies and some healthy girls!
<pre>subject: besides..
Dear Strongbad,
Do you do anything besides checking e-mails?

Sincerely, Hunter</pre>

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Waudju- gighi- ikuh... What do you mean do I do anything else besides checking e-mails. 'Course I freakin' do! I do everything! Always! ''{clears the screen}'' Nature walks, Meet N' Greets, Bus Chucker Club, The League of Me and The Cheat Ice Cream Socials. Shut up! I even have a part-part-part-part-very part-time job, to which I am currently 15 minutes late.

''{Cut to the lower area of Marzipan's kitchen. Strong Bad has apparently been checking this e-mail under Marzipan's kitchen table. Homestar walks in, and is holding a tennis ball.}''

''{Strong Bad looks around in a panicked way.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': This is perfect! Just perfect! I couldn't be happier with my new invention! I'll call it... the Super Question Machine!!

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{whispering}'' I gotta try to sneak out of here without Homestar noticing me.

''{Homestar sets his tennis ball down on the table.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gonna need a diversion of some kind...

''{The Cheat walks in, humming to himself, wearing a top hat entitled "Tito" and a bowtie, and holding a cane. Homestar turns around to look at him. The camera pans left. The Cheat begins doing a dance.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, wow! What a great new invention!

''{Strong Bad crawls out from under the table, and gives The Cheat the thumbs up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nice work, The Cheat!

''{He proceeds to crawl away, while The Cheat's still humming.}''

''{Cut to Bubs' empty concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly while peeking out from behind the black}'' Perfect! Bubs must be passed out on the floor again.

''{Strong Bad disappears behind the screen, and begins walking toward the Stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Comin' in to work on time..

''{Bubs pops up from under the counter. Strong Bad lets out a short yell.}''

'''BUBS:''' Aha!

'''STRONG BAD:''' {''Yells, then stutters a little.''}

'''BUBS:''' Late again, Strong Bad. I'm not running a country club, you know.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Quickly}'' But Mr. Bubs, I was just-

'''BUBS:''' ''{Interrupts}'' Wastin' time with that email show of yours again. That mess'll never get you anywhere!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes it will! You'll see! I'm gonna be big one day. I'm gonna be a famous email checker.

'''BUBS:''' And I'm gonna be two times two. Now put on your uniform and get to work!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're gonna be ''what''?

''{The screen fades out and resumes to Strong Bad wearing a combination of a sad clown and a hotdog costume in front of Bubs' stand. Strong Bad is holding a paper, and a stack of papers sits next to him.}''

''The papers all say:''

<pre>GET YOU A FREE CUP OF ICE WITH PURCHASE OF DELUXE CUP OF ICE OF EQUAL OR LESSER VALUE
BUBS' CONSESSION STAND</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! Come on down to Bubs' and get you a free cup of ice with purchase of deluxe cup of ice of equal or lesser value.

'''BUBS:''' No, no. Work it, son, work it!

''{Strong Bad begins dancing and humming.}''

'''BUBS:''' That's it, that's it! Look out for Number 1!

''{Coach Z walks in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, it's the hot dog clown! What fun!

''{Pom Pom's silhouette merges in.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom, take a picture of me with the hot dog clown. It'll be classic!

''{Pom Pom bubbles, and takes out a camera. A huge flash is seen, and a camera shutter sound is heard. Coach Z falls over, leaning on Strong Bad.}

''{The camera zooms in to Bubs.}''

'''BUBS:''' Pictures with the tragic clown dog ain't free! Fifty bucks! ''Sixty'' bucks! Get back here and let me confiscate y'all film!
'' {The camera zooms back out to the four of them.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{running}'' Chorce, forsh! ''{He and Pom Pom run off screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a great day at Bubs' Concession Stand! Sign up now for giving us money!

'''BUBS:''' Now isn't this better than sitting at your desk answerin' emails?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Actually I was sitting under a kitchen table this week and.. uh oh! The Lappy's probably almost out of juice! I gotta get back and end this email! Uhh.. say Bubs, I'm gonna need now off. Is that cool?

'''BUBS:''' Is Strong Sad cool?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh come on.

'''BUBS:''' You know all my policies! I'm not running a country club, you know.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay then I quit.

'''BUBS:''' Fine! But don't even think about swiping that costume!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You made me buy this costume, remember?

'''BUBS:''' Oh. Right. Well then pleasure doing business with you.

''{Strong Bad runs off in the costume.}

''{We cut back to the kitchen, where The Cheat has fallen over, still humming, and Homestar is standing over him. Strong Bad, now without costume, crawls back in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This is the most amazing undersea epic ever filmed.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' See, Hunter? I got all types of stuff going on. I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are. I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-

''{The Lappy powers down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh great. The battery ran out. I gotta figure out a way to end this email.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah you do.

''{Cut to Mrs. Bennedetto. Strong Bad slaps a paper on it with some text and a picture of him on it.}''

<pre>yeah buddy,
i have muscles!

ps: preeeeow</pre>

''{The Paper DOES NOT come down on its own!}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on "Bus Chucker Club" to see a post-it of Strong Bad's member badge.
* Click on "preeeeow" to make [[The Paper]] come down.
* Click on the microwave's "Broast" button to see "[[Hundredaire Socialite|Hundredaire Socialite magazine]]", featuring "The Brains Behind [[Videlectrix]]".
* Click on the "Power" button to watch an extra scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.

=== Easter Egg Transcript ===
''{Cut to Bubs on the Stage from [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. We see a pamphlet:}''
<pre> T H E A T E R
Dreamaway
Johnny

A Sweet 3-Acter
Directed by Strong Bad
Starring:
Strong Bad and Buh-Hubs, man</pre>

''{The pamphlet zooms out. We see Bubs is standing in front of a cut-out of his stand reading MR LEGARM'S Bubs Stand. Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''BUBS AS MR. LEGARM:''' Well look who decided to show up. Fifth time this week, Johnny.

'''STRONG BAD AS JOHNNY:''' Oh I'm sorry Mr. Legarm. Honest I am! I just-

'''MR. LEGARM:''' ''{interrupting}'' You just what? Lost track of time?

'''JOHNNY:''' Yes sir. Only I wouldn't have to worry about that if I could just get the Johnny-Tron working.

'''MR. LEGARM:''' You still wastin' time workin' on that time machine, Johnny? That's a pipe dream, son! Your future's here at the shop. Now sweep up! I got customers to tend to.

'''JOHNNY:''' You'll see. Someday... someday...

''{Music starts, and a spotlight goes over to Strong Bad.}''

'''JOHNNY:''' ''{singing}'' When all my dreams come.. truuuuuuuuue.

''{As he sings the word "true" the orchestra hits a climactic chord. The audience claps; the curtain closes.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The clock on Mrs. Blennedetto is stuck on 9:48.
*This email is the first to show the back of the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] clearly. (It was obscured by Strong Bad's arm in [[animal]]) It is the 3rd time Strong Bad has checked his email in an unusual place; he has also checked his e-mail on Pom-Pom's [[Pom Pilot]] in [[the bird]] and later on [[Tangerine Dreams]] in [[weird dream]].
*In the picture of himself that Strong Bad puts on Mrs. Bennedetto at the end of the email, his left hand does not have a boxing glove on it and you can see three fingers. This is the first time we have seen Strong Bad's fingers or hand without the boxing gloves on.
*This is only the fourth email where strong Bad's email song does not include the word "email".
*This is the only email where you manually have to make the paper come down at the end of it.
* This is the second time Bubs criticized Strong Bad about his "email show". the first time was in the email [[the process]].
*This is the first time Strong Bad answer's an email in a house that he entered unwelcome and Homestar is welcome there. Usually Strong Bad answers emails in his house and Homestar enters unwelcome.

===Remarks===
*Bubs has apparently discontinued his "free weekly spamvertisements" from [[unused emails]], from which Strong Bad was making $1250 (5000 emails x a quarter each) every time he sold a disk of addresses.
*Notice Bubs' promotion is the opposite of what would be sensible: You can get two cups of ice while paying only for the one that costs less or the same. This is the same kind of logic which allows [[The King of Town]] to have "earned a free combo meal by purchasing one of equal or lesser value".
*When Strong Bad is late to work, he grabs the frame of the cartoon, another confusion as to whether he knows he's in a cartoon or not.
*Apparently the Lappy 486 also comes with a wireless Internet card. Either that or Strong Bad downloaded his emails before heading to Marzipan's.
*The Lappy has a battery life of 5 minutes, but this email lasts only 3 minutes 9 seconds and the Lappy cuts off. However, it's explainable by the fact that not every moment is accounted for, such as Strong Bad going to and returning from [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], and Strong Bad putting on his costume, not to mention the time it took for the Lappy to boot up.
*Strong Bad also has an unspecified job at [[The Office]].
*Hunter's question was effectively answered just 10 emails ago in [[other days]].

===Goofs===
*You can still make the circles appear on the LCD screen when the power shuts off.
*You can also make the circles apear when the scene swithces to the microwave at the end really quickly.
*The paper's "preeow" sound starts but gets cut off after less than a second when it cuts to the microwave.
*You can keep clicking on "preeow" to make the Paper come down again and again.

===Inside References===
* The "Hundredaire Socialite magazine" easter egg features the familiar faces of [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]]; the photo is from [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].
*The Cheat wearing the top hat may be a reference to [[theme park]]. ''(also see Real-World References)''
*Buh-Hubs was a filename in [[big white face]].
*"Hundredaire" was also used in the email "[[suntan]]".
* "preeeeow" is what Strong Bad says in [[autobiography]] and [[haircut]], when attempting to prompt the printer to print out [[The Paper]].
*The confused sounds Strong Bad makes at the beginning of the cartoon are almost identical to the ones he utters near the end of [[Everybody to the Limit]].
*When Strong Bad says "I've got so many facets, you don't even know what facets are," he is referring to his description of [[Senor Cardgage]] in the email [[kind of cool]].
*The sound the Lappy makes when shutting down is the same sound from [[gimmicks]] (when the Tandy's display goes blank), [[caffeine]] (when Strong Sad no longer was caffeinated), and [[dangeresque 3]] when Strong Bad changed the signature (john newell, on) to john newell, off.
*The cup of ice is first referenced in [[no loafing]], as part of Bubs' Thirty Cent Lunch Special.
*When Strong Bad sings "I'm like a hundredaire socialite out on the sce-", it is in the same tune as the first Lappy e-mail rap ("Scroll buttons and The Lappy together at last...")

===Real-World References===
*The Cheat wearing the top hat might be a parody of 80's "One Hit Wonder" TACO and his cover of "Puttin' On the Ritz".
*The Tragic Clown Dog's necktie bends upwards like [[Wikipedia: Dilbert|Dilbert's]].
*Homestar doesn't demonstrate how his Super Question Machine works (which is just a tennis ball), but it could be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Magic 8-ball|Magic 8-ball]].
*The pamphlet reading "Theater" in the Easter Egg is a reference to the ubiquitous [[Wikipedia: Playbill|Playbill]] in Broadway shows.
*The name "Mr. Legarm" is probably a reference to the old saying of "... will cost you an arm and a leg", since Bubs is known to charge more for something than it's worth (such as when he charges $20 for severe pummelings)

== Glitches ==
* After watching the "Power easter egg," the paper is down even if you haven't clicked on "preeeow".
* On some earlier versions of Flash, you can hear the printer's scratching noise even before you click on "preeeow".
* Many users could see this flash if they clicked e-mail even if it doesn't say they updated the e-mail yet.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail121.html|watch "part-time job"]]
*[[HR:sbemail121.swf|view the Flash file for "part-time job"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1652 forum thread re: part-time job]
{{Strong Bad Email}}
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HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:25:05 GMT

OWIE!: /* Trivia */

[[Image:payplus_aprilfools2005.JPG|thumb|"Finally At Last!!!"]]

It's April Fool's day and—Oh no! HomestarRunner.com is now a subscription site!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Senor Cardgage]], [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]]'s head, [[Strong Mad]], [[Frank Bennedetto]], [[Sterrance]], [[Vector Strong Bad]], [[Stinkoman]], [[Rather Dashing]] ''{silhouetted}'', [[Eh! Steve]], [[The Wheelchair]], [[Prime Time]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[The Worm]], [[Sherlock]], [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]] ''{watermark}'', [[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], [[The Ugly One]], [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]]

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

''' Date:''' April 1, 2005

'''Page Title:''' Finally At Last!!!
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==

===Page One===
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Join now!
Subscriptions are the latest craze!
Loggin' (a login box)
Instant access!
Take the tour!</pre>

====Homestar's Seven Seconds====
''{Cue Homestar standing in a field. A timer counts up in the bottom left corner of the screen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One... two... three... four... fi-

''{The timer reaches seven; a buzzer goes off, and "TRIAL PERIOD OVER" pops up on the screen.}''

===Page Two===
<pre>The Email Show!
HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!
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WEBCAM CHAT WITH THE CREATORS OR SOMEONE ELSE!
Let's see a clip!
SHOW ME MORE, SIR!</pre>

====Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample====

''{Cue Strong Bad sitting in front of his computer, flanked by the Cheat, who is holding a remote control. Homestar is standing in front of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, the Cheat, let 'er rip!

''{The Cheat presses the button on the remote. A square hole opens under Homestar's feet. He falls about two feet and stops.''}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woo! That was fun!

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, I thought we were opting for the bottomless pit. ''{Homestar starts a little dance with his feet, stepping back and forth gracefully.}'' ... Not a two-foot pit!

'''THE CHEAT:''' [Says something in The Cheat, probably along the lines of "It's not ''my'' fault."]

''{Cut to the basement, where Strong Mad sits on the couch with Homestar's feet dancing on top of him.''}

'''STRONG MAD:''' I HAVE A FUNNY HAT!

===Page Three===
<pre>There's more?? Why, yes.
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Fake boxes
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"Sign Up Today Man"
1 player simultaneous
CHECK MARK!
Continue Free Tour!</pre>

The free sample game resembles Space Invaders with Strong Bad against an army of Homestars coming out of the sky. The Cheat periodically falls from top to bottom and if he hits you, a message will appear saying "YOUR"
"HEAD"(changes to SHIP a second later)
"ASPLODE". Trying to play the game is difficult because the screen continually flashes the message "TRIAL VERSION", locking the game controls.

===Page Four===
<pre>HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!
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SWEET CUPPIN CAKES
A New Episode Each Week!
Meet Eh! Steve!'s Lawyer!
Win a chance to have lunch with the Worm-type character!

teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!

And also, too:
Answering Machines out the wazoo
Powered by The Cheat-athons!
Senor Cardgage Wednesdays
Mr. Shmallow's Webcam

Extra free sample here!
On the Tour?</pre>

====Teen Girl Squad Sample====

''{Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One are standing around. Cheerleader's shirt reads "sperld rott'n".}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' That stupid wheelchair kid asked me to the Friday Night Dance! But I'm going with Steven!

''{Enter Eh! Steve!, wearing a football uniform with the number nine}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{speech bubble fills with hearts}'' Hey, Steven!

'''EH! STEVE:''' Eh! Steve!

''{Cut to Wheelchair}''

'''WHEELCHAIR:''' I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's whooooooooooo!

''{The Man with the Huge Mouth, with fairy wings, a tutu and a wand, enters and changes the Wheelchair into a realistic drawing of a wheelchair.}''

'''MAN WITH THE HUGE MOUTH:''' GOOD DRAWINGED!

'''WHEELCHAIR:''' I'm a real boy!

''{Cut to the "It's Over!" splash screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' It's over!

===Page Five===
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===Page Six===
<pre>Thank you for your order.
You will receive your package
in 6-8 weeks.</pre>

== Fun Facts ==
{{funfacts}}
=== Explanations ===
*The entire April Fool's site is a parody of the preview pages on many pay-sites on the Internet: the trial videos, the free tour that ends with a sign-up page, the tacky design and layout, and the "streaming video game feeds" all mimic said pages.
*The content of the preview pages is terribly misleading, which is an issue with actual pay sites.
*A recent trend for Internet entertainment sites, especially game sites, is to be free for a few years, and then the owners initiate a pay-to-play policy. Perhaps this April Fool's joke was done so the HomestarRunner site would fit the trend.

=== Trivia===
*When the page was first released, the navigation buttons at the bottom of the page weren't there, like [[Under Construction]].
*After the false message about 6 to 8 weeks delivery, the page always directs you to [[Main Page 19]], The Show.
*Pressing '7' on the keyboard (or the numeric keypad) during the trial game will toggle the gray 'TRIAL VERSION' message. If it's onscreen, it will vanish. If it's not onscreen, it will appear. Holding down the 7 key rapidly toggles the message on and off. The 7 key has no effect at any other time.
*The screenshots on the first page show:
**Senor Cardgage showing a pie chart to Homestar, dressed in his pajamas and robe from [[caper]]
**Strong Bad with the [[Lappy 486]] as The Cheat serves him Strong Sad's head on a platter.
**Strong Mad on [[The Couch]] wearing Homestar's Homestarmy bowl, next to Frank Blennedetto.
*The screenshots on the second page show:
**Strong Bad at the [[Tandy 400]] with Sterrance (from [[animal]]) in the foreground.
**Strong Bad destroying a city (à la [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]]).
**Strong Bad in front of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], which has gained [[Bubs]]' eyes and mouth.
*The third page has:
**A screenshot from [[StrongBadZone]] with the quote "A SPLODE IS A LOT".
**The boxes for the [[Videlectrix]] games [[Planet, Alert!]] and [[Spaceshipper]].
**The sprite of Stinkoman from [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
**A screenshot from [[RhinoFeeder]].
**A screenshot from the Videlectrix game [[Rabbit Algebra]].

=== Remarks ===
*None of the screenshots on the first two pages are from actual toons or emails. The StrongBadZone screenshot contains a quote not found in the game.
*Strong Bad is seen with the [[Tandy 400]] in one of the screenshots, with Sterrance from the email [[animal]] even though that was a [[Lappy 486]] era email.
*The answer to the math problem in the game screenshot is x = ±4.
*Saying that a new Sweet Cuppin' Cakes episode will come out every week pokes fun at the fact that Sweet Cuppin' Cakes almost never gets any new episodes.
*The 7 second trial goes past 7 seconds. It goes to 7.15 seconds.
*Except for the buttons and movie clips, all content featured on this toon are JPEGs.

===Goofs===
*Pressing the back button while watching the "Let's see a clip!" preview on page 2 will not make the Clip close, but it does close if you go back to page 2. This does not work if you hit "Show me more, sir!" or on any other of the previews.
*In the 7 second trial (which is actually 7.15 seconds long, according to counter), the counter in the corner is counting by seconds and then 60ths of seconds. If you watch it frame by frame in the swf. file, you can see the decimal counter is going at 5 60ths of a second per frame, which means the decimal goes up by 5 every frame. At the end of any second, the counter does not go from 55 to 0, it goes from 55 to 60, and then to 65, and then to 10.
*In Strong Bad's trap door clip, the trap door leads down to the sofa/tv room, but in the Strong Bad e-mail called [[morning routine]], Strong Bad wakes up in that room and walks off the right side of the screen and is then in his e-mail room.
*On the "The Email Show" page, in the middle of the screen, [[Strong Bad]]'s eyes are a much lighter shade of green and have lost the shadow on the tops of his eyes.

=== Inside References ===
*When your ship is destroyed in the trial game, the message "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE" appears, with "head" changing to "ship" a split-second later. This is an obvious reference to [[StrongBadZone]].
*All the sprites in the trial game come from the secret games on [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].
*The "cred" card shown on page five belongs to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], who is a member of the [[Superfied Credit Union]]. This is a reference to the [[credit card]] email and to the [[Downloads]] page.
*Strong Sad's head may be a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary]].
*This is the first time the big-mouthed man didn't kill anyone in the TGS comics.

=== Real-World References ===
*The trial game is a [[wikipedia:Space_invaders|Space Invaders]] clone.
*"I'm a real boy!" is an obvious reference to [[Wikipedia:Pinnochio|Pinocchio]], a wooden puppet who was turned "real" and made a similar remark in at least one version of the story.
*"I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's who!" and the #9 jersey are references to the movie [[IMDB:tt0112368|Angus]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:payplus.html|View "PAY PLUS!"]]
*[[HR:payplus2.swf|View the Flash file for "PAY PLUS!"]]
*View the component flash files for:
**[[HR:7seconds.swf|Homestar's Seven Seconds]]
**[[HR:sbsample.swf|Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample]]
**[[HR:SevenSecondTrialGame.swf|Seven Second Trial Game "Homestar Invaders"]]
**[[HR:tgsample.swf|Teen Girl Squad Sample]]

[[Category:April Fools]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Cheerleader Filmography]][[Category:So and So Filmography]][[Category:The Ugly One Filmography]][[Category:Eh! Steve Filmography]][[Category:Teen Girl Squad]][[Category:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:12:41 GMT

OWIE!: /* Scalawag */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting and I'd assume that most of Homestar Runner's viewers know a green or a blue background when they see it. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' But your reason is not what I'm declining it for. I'm declining it because it belongs on the [[DELETED]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:59, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I've noted this fact on the DELETED page. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[rampage]]===
====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[i love you]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads)
*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
*'''Decline''' Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
*'''Decline.''' I guess some people have never seen actual people-sized paper parasols. Marzipan's is not a drink parasol, it's an Asian-style paper one! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' Man, what a dumblecake. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I'm a dumblecake too then. I didn't realize just *how* similar a drink parasol resembles a real parasol till I looked up the two right now. An honest mistake on whoever's part, no need for insults.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***You're insulted by the term "dumblecake?" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:30, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The first part doesn't matter, and the second part doesn't make sense, or have anything to so with the first part! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:05, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
I is a gud righter
*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Buleeted''' It's a '''word!''' [[User:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1. Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[best thing]] ===
==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Actual Decline.''' All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[car]] ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====
Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
==== Meh ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting and I'd assume that most of Homestar Runner's viewers know a green or a blue background when they see it. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' But your reason is not what I'm declining it for. I'm declining it because it belongs on the [[DELETED]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:59, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I've noted this fact on the DELETED page. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[rampage]]===
====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[i love you]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads)
*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
*'''Decline''' Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
*'''Decline.''' I guess some people have never seen actual people-sized paper parasols. Marzipan's is not a drink parasol, it's an Asian-style paper one! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' Man, what a dumblecake. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I'm a dumblecake too then. I didn't realize just *how* similar a drink parasol resembles a real parasol till I looked up the two right now. An honest mistake on whoever's part, no need for insults.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***You're insulted by the term "dumblecake?" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:30, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The first part doesn't matter, and the second part doesn't make sense, or have anything to so with the first part! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:05, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1. Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[best thing]] ===
==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Actual Decline.''' All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[car]] ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====
Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
==== Meh ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:31:32 GMT

OWIE!: /* Strong Mad sings */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting and I'd assume that most of Homestar Runner's viewers know a green or a blue background when they see it. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' But your reason is not what I'm declining it for. I'm declining it because it belongs on the [[DELETED]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:59, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I've noted this fact on the DELETED page. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[rampage]]===
====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[i love you]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads)
*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
*'''Decline''' Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
*'''Decline.''' I guess some people have never seen actual people-sized paper parasols. Marzipan's is not a drink parasol, it's an Asian-style paper one! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' Man, what a dumblecake. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I'm a dumblecake too then. I didn't realize just *how* similar a drink parasol resembles a real parasol till I looked up the two right now. An honest mistake on whoever's part, no need for insults.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***You're insulted by the term "dumblecake?" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:30, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The first part doesn't matter, and the second part doesn't make sense, or have anything to so with the first part! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:05, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1. Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[best thing]] ===
==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Actual Decline.''' All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[car]] ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====
Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
==== Meh ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

OWIE! — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:30:02 GMT

OWIE!: /* Strong Mad sings */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.'''

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting and I'd assume that most of Homestar Runner's viewers know a green or a blue background when they see it. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' But your reason is not what I'm declining it for. I'm declining it because it belongs on the [[DELETED]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:59, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I've noted this fact on the DELETED page. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[rampage]]===
====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[i love you]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads)
*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
*'''Decline''' Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
*'''Decline.''' I guess some people have never seen actual people-sized paper parasols. Marzipan's is not a drink parasol, it's an Asian-style paper one! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:45, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' Man, what a dumblecake. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I'm a dumblecake too then. I didn't realize just *how* similar a drink parasol resembles a real parasol till I looked up the two right now. An honest mistake on whoever's part, no need for insults.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***You're insulted by the term "dumblecake?" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:30, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The first part doesn't matter, and the second part doesn't make sense, or have anything to so with the first part! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:05, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1. Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[best thing]] ===
==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Actual Decline.''' All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[car]] ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====
Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
==== Meh ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)