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Old Timey Me — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:15:18 GMT

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[[Image:the movies Strong Bad Senor Cardgage.png|thumb|"Good evening, Bontilda. Forty-twone will be on your lest."]]
Strong Bad's annoyance with fellow moviegoers builds to an explosive climax.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, [[The Knight]], [[The Hornblower]], [[The Blacksmith]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' February 20, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:51

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Coach Z is not that cool; here comes an email.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: movie</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
 I was at the movies last night and this little girl behind me 
wouldn't shut up! has that ever happened to you? 
Cooper 
Franklin TN.
</blockquote>
''{Strong Bad reads the name and address as "A person called Cooper, from the city of Franklin, in the state of Tennessee."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Told you I could do it.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{offscreen}'' ''{grudging The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, I feel ya, Coopreme. It's a good thing they make you turn off your bazookas before movies man, or every one of my theater-going experiences would end in smoldering crater fashion.

''{Cut to a cinema entrance lobby. Posters for Dangeresque 3 and King Bubsgonzola Supreme hang in the background. Senor Cardgage is an usher; Strong Bad, The Cheat, and Pom Pom walk in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The experience starts out promising enough...

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Good efening, Bontilda. ''{takes Strong Bad's ticket and tears it}'' Forty-twone will be on your lest.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just you watch, The Cheat. Some day ''I'm'' gonna be the one tearing tickets and telling folks that forty-twone will be on their lest.

''{Cut inside the cinema. Coach Z is watching the movie screen, fidgeting and thinking hard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' It begins with the genius who can't resist answering the oh-so-challenging film trivia slides they show before the movie.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I know this one! The Brat Pack! Pan-and-scan! Spencer Tracy!

''{Cut to Strong Bad. The Cheat is visible on the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Real impressive, Ebert. We've only seen this slide ten times since we all sat down.

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' If you answered "B", you're ready for film school.

''{Cut back to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Awr, it was ''{hits himself}'' ice cold refreshment. I should've known.

''{Cut to the screen, which reads:}''

<blockquote>
<big>MOVIE & REFRESHMENT TRIVIA*</big>
The correct answer was : 
B: Ice Cold Refreshment
*ACTUALLY JUST REFRESHMENT TRIVIA
</blockquote>

''{Another slide is shown on the screen, with a picture of a bazooka with six slashes on it, labeled "Please Be Considerate. Because no one wants to watch a smoldering crater."}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Be considerate of others. Please turn off your bazookas before the progrum.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Then, once the movie starts, don't forget the guy who insists on rattling off the complete filmographies of each of the actors.

''{Cut back to the audience, and pan from Pom Pom to Strong Sad.}''

'''MOVIE:''' ''{voiceover}'' —but when I returned, the DNA evidence was gone!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ooh, ''{points at screen}'' and he had a cameo as Stevedore #2 in the prequel, and he was in that car commercial with the wisecracking transmission, and he has a Bacon number of 4! ''{holds up four fingers}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{gets up and turns back to face Strong Sad}'' And this is my FIST! ''{raises said fist}'' You might remember it from ''Bloodied Pulp'', the amazingly true story of your face in five seconds! ''{sits back down}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{pointing at Strong Bad}'' He was in Dangeresque 1 and 2!

''{Cut to The Cheat, who is sitting next to Strong Bad and eating popcorn.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And if you think the guy sitting next to you munching popcorn is bad, ''{Strong Bad's head turns slowly in The Cheat's direction}'' try going to a theater where people regularly sneak in their own all-you-can-eat fajitas!

''{Cut to the King of Town, who is holding a frying pan covered in sizzling food, with a stack of similar pans in the seat beside him.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Wha?! This was all in my box of Milk Duds.

''{Pan back, behind the King of Town, there are the Knight (with a guitar), the Hornblower (with a horn) and the Blacksmith (with maracas). The three of them play a brief Mariachi melody. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And that brings me to the little girl behind me who wouldn't shut up.

''{Pan behind Strong Bad, Homestar Runner is standing there, wearing a viking helmet.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more! Ever and more! Ever and more!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' This is the kind of person that likes to talk to the movie. But not in the usual ''{Homestar mouths Strong Bad's words}'' "Don't go in there!" or ''{Homestar mouths Strong Bad's words again}'' "Oh no he di'n't!" type of way. He just... makes small talk with the characters, and chit-chat.

''{Cut through white to some time in the movie. Homestar is sitting on his seat, with the viking helmet on the seat next to him.}''

'''MOVIE:''' ''{voiceover}'' Well, I figured out their plan.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I figured I'd just cut up some iceberg lettuce, throw some tomatoes on there, maybe a little catalina. Nothing fancy, nothing fancy.

''{Cut through white to later in the movie. Homestar is lying on his seat, with his head resting on the helmet.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, man, have you ever been to a ground-breaking? I mean, what is the point of those things?

''{Cut through white again, Homestar is lying upside down on his seat, with his legs in the air.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You know where the real money is? Phone books.

''{Cut through white yet again, Homestar is sitting up normally.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I wonder how you spell tabasco. ''{stands up}'' TABASCOooo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Gets up from his seat again and turns around.}'' What is wrong with you people?! Do you not notice the giant movie over here? Were all the local sit-around-and-suck-out-loud places closed?!

''{Strong Bad picks up a bazooka, holds it beside his head like a cell phone, and imitates a ringtone.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, di-a-lo-do, da-a-lo-do, di-a-lo-do, ''die''!!

''{Strong Bad lowers the bazooka to point at the camera and fires it. Fade back to the computer room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, that's why I'm not allowed at the movies anymore. But I don't care. I brought my movie viewing into the digital age. And I dig-it-all!!! Check it out!

''{Strong Bad runs "karatecar.exe". An ASCII art movie starts. A stick figure man walks along a street, with buildings in the background, and a car drives across. The stick figure jumps and does a somersault over the car just before he gets hit.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly}'' Oh, look out, Mister Slashy-Man!

''{The movie cuts to a closeup of the car.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly}'' Ooh, something exciting!

''{The movie cuts to a closeup of the stick figure man, who says "Now THAT was a ''sports'' car!". He then does some karate moves and says "Hi-YA!".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly}'' Aah, I guess I'm talking during the movie! Kind of a hypocrite! Gonna shut up now!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the "@" at the end to see a film trivia screen.
<blockquote>
<big>MOVIE & REFRESHMENT TRIVIA*</big>
What can you get at the concession 
stand for $10, $10 or $13?
A. Luke Wilson 
B. 16:9 Anamorphic 
C. Hot, Hot Buttery Popcorn 
D. '''Battleship Potemkin'''
*ACTUALLY JUST REFRESHMENT TRIVIA
</blockquote>
*Click on the "Hi-YA" at the end to see Homestar in a smoldering crater sitting in a theater seat with a frame of a movie poster protruding from the side of the crater:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh man. This movie has it all. Cinema has never Luked so Wilson.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Pan and Scan|Pan and Scan]] refers to a technique by which film originally shot in widescreen format is transferred into a format compatible with the shape of common TV screens. In contrast, DVDs made using an [[Wikipedia:Anamorphic widescreen|anamorphic widescreen]] technique automatically fill [[Wikipedia:High-definition television|high-definition television]] screens that have a 16:9 aspect ratio and make full use of the available resolution.
*[[Wikipedia:French dressing|Catalina]] is a type of salad dressing made from tomato ketchup and sugar.
*[[Wikipedia:ASCII art|ASCII art]] is an artistic medium that makes pictures entirely out of typed characters.
*A [[Wikipedia:Groundbreaking|groundbreaking]] is a photo-op ceremony in which executives or other noteworthy people dig the first shovel of dirt from a lot in which a new construction will be built.
*The slashes on the bazooka in the "Be Considerate" ad are a common mark on guns, tanks, and war ships to show how many kills they've made.
*A [[Wikipedia:Stevedore|stevedore]] is a person who works at or is responsible for loading and unloading ships in port.
*[[The Knight]], [[The Hornblower]], and [[The Blacksmith]] are playing instruments as if they were in a [[Wikipedia:Mariachi|mariachi band]].

===Trivia===
*The release date on the Dangeresque 3 poster is:<blockquote>COMING <del>JUNE 2004</del> <del>APRIL 2005</del> <del>MEMORIALS DAY 2005</del> <del>AUGUST 2006</del> WE'LL SEE...</blockquote>
*[[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]]'s [[Cool Shades]] in the poster have three lenses, relating to it being the third film. The number "3" is also visible, reflected in the center lens.

===Remarks===
*Despite the lack of a specific release date and that it just says "We'll see", the poster for Dangeresque 3 is still labeled "Now Playing".
*When watching the [[Wikipedia:ASCII art|ASCII art]] movie, Strong Bad says "Kind of a hypocrite!" because he was talking during it. However, he was ''yelling'' during the actual movie, and that is not mentioned.
*Note that the ASCII art is actually not real ASCII art as some of the characters are of different font sizes.


===Inside References===
*This is the third email in a row that mentions [[DNA Evidence]].
*This email features another pronunciation of the word "program" as [[Progrum|progrum]].
*Two of the movie posters are for ''[[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]]'' (based on [[unnatural]]) and ''[[dangeresque 3|Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]]'' (with no predetermined release date).
**The King Bubsgonzola Supreme poster was an easter egg in [[unnatural]].
*Strong Bad originally said in [[stunt double]] that Dangeresque 3 would come out in June 2004, hence the first crossed out date. The other three dates are of major releases: [[Stinkoman 20X6]], [[Senorial Day]], and [[Strongest Man in the World]], respectively.
*"Film school" was first mentioned in [[Puppets on the Road]].
*"Hi-YA!" is an example of [[Lowercase i's]].
*Strong Bad's "Told you I could do it," refers to his habit of mangling the emailer's name and/or address, which he doesn't do this time.

===Real-World References===
*The first line of Strong Bad's intro song for this email bears a strong resemblance to the chorus of "[[Wikipedia:Billie Jean|Billie Jean]]", by [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]].
*The [[Wikipedia:Brat Pack (movies)|Brat Pack]] refers to a group of actors that rose to fame in the 1980s by starring in several teen-oriented movies.
*[[Wikipedia:Spencer Tracy|Spencer Tracy]] was a two-time [[Wikipedia:Academy Awards|Academy Award]]-winning film actor.
*Strong Bad's "Ebert" comment refers to [[Wikipedia:Roger Ebert|Roger Ebert]], a Chicago-based movie critic.
*"[[Wikipedia:Bacon number|Bacon number]]" refers to the number of degrees of separation an actor has from actor [[Wikipedia:Kevin Bacon|Kevin Bacon]]. This, in turn, stems from the [[Wikipedia:Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon|Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon]] game that was popular in the early 1990s.
*[[Wikipedia:Milk Duds|Milk Duds]] are a popular candy often sold at movie theaters.
*Tabasco is both [[Wikipedia:Tabasco|a state in Mexico]] as well as the trademark name for a brand of [[Wikipedia:tabasco_sauce|hot pepper sauce]].
*The song Strong Bad "sings" before firing the bazooka is the "[[Wikipedia:Nokia tune|Nokia tune]]," based on a guitar work called "Gran Vals".
*[[IMDB:nm0005561|Luke Wilson]] is an American film actor.
*''[[Wikipedia:The Battleship Potemkin|The Battleship Potemkin]]'' was an influential silent film about the [[Wikipedia:Russian battleship Potemkin|Battleship ''Potemkin'' uprising]].
*The "Ice Cold Refreshment" trivia and red background refer to [[Wikipedia: Coca-Cola|Coca-Cola]] themed games shown before a film to entertain the moviegoers.

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:Weclome Back

Old Timey Me — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:20:00 GMT

Old Timey Me:

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only "nonsense", and the meat product is ''bologna''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of "bologna"; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that "baloney" doesn't mean "bologna" anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the "baloney" spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the "baloney" spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as "sammich" so the explicit use of "baloney' was probably just word play.
:::::"Sammich" is not a documented and accepted spelling of "sandwich", however. "Baloney" is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except "bologna" in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels "baloney" is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying "bologna" would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as "bologna" everywhere but "Baloney Sammich Truck". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as "baloney" is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that "baloney" is TBC's preferred spelling based off of "Baloney Sammich Truck"; no one's arguing that "sandwich" should be respelled "sammich" everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because "sammich" is not a lexicographically-accepted word. "Baloney" is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as "bologna" in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about "pop" and people argued we should call it "soda" because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it "ba-low-knee" or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere "baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::If only they had misspelled "truck" — then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to "(more commonly spelled bologna)". And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads "Baloney" on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}

:I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just like to add that "sammich" is pronounced differently to "sandwich", so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said "I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!" he clearly says "sammich", and when he says "I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach" he clearly says "sandwich". Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using "sammich" everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to "we should use the correct term" vs "we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant". I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006

::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Quick question: Has anyone considered the possibility that Bubs is trying to sell ''nonsense'' sandwiches, as opposed to bologna sandwiches? That if someone actually bought a sammich from Bubs on this deserted [[island]], they'd get a couple slices of bread, maybe with a [[Fortune Cookies|fortune]] inside or something? :) It could just be one of the [[isp|99 ways he rips you off]]. That would be a good case for leaving it "baloney", IMHO. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad on the Airplane==
Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?
:I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth noting that on the video StrongBad recorded, he doesn't appear to be actually wearing a parachute -- just a helmet? -- Catgirl

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]
::::::It's definitely Shakespeare. Bach was always depicted with a full wig and no facial hair, whereas the most famous portrait of Old Billie has him balding with medium-long hair and a Van Dyke. And the earring. [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]]

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3

:Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Doin' that thing you do ==
The lyric referring to "our bass player" reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested

== "The part with the narwhal?" ==

At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.
:There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::It should be noted that the "Penguin Calls" flash you just linked to was made by the same person--drewmo--that did the Narwhal Diving game, which the toon appears to reference. Everything's connected. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homsars hat flying off... ==
...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Did anyone notice... ==
The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...
Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?

== Blogs? ==

Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said "ladies' blogs", not "latest blogs"? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly "latest" to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::I myself heard "latest blogs". {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "latest blogs" but that's probably because I didn't know there was such thing as a vlog until I read this hrwiki article. I guess vlogs would make more sense though, considering Strong bad is (or at least thinks he is) taping the event on video. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 17:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vlog or Blog? ==

Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Eyes ==

Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his "sleepy" mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Rival camps ==

Right now we have the following real-world reference:
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.
Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this
-TheDensel

I just added "Heavyweights" (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and "Meatballs" to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Goofs ==
First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?
:I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Arm length and head position goof?==
When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in "front" of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Westerburg/berg ==

"Burg" is the german word for "Castle", while "Berg" is for "Mount(ain)". Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?

== TBC Vacation ==

I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]
:I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Island trivia==
Do we really know for a fact that "The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again"? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)
:Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Baloney Sammich Truck==
[[Image:Baloneytruck.PNG|thumb|Like magic?]]
Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says "You shut your face" to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Already on it. Here you go: {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Narwhal is a reference to AKA Driver... ''how'' exactly? ==

How is Narwhal Diving a reference to AKA Driver? I've looked up the lyrics for said song and there's not a single line in the song mentioning narwhals. In addition, drewmo (the author of Narwhal Diving) has posted in the forum topic for Weclome Back, saying he's never heard AKA Driver. I'd say we have reasonable doubt here... ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Other than "Narwhal Diver" and "NyQuil Driver" sounding alike, there's nothing. --[[User:4.159.116.75|4.159.116.75]] 18:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Fair enough. The similarity in name seemed more than coincidental to me, but I guess not.

== I'm with gluten/stupid ==
Strong Sad's "I'm with gluten" t-shirt seems to be a reference to the "I'm with stupid" t-shirts, which I think were popular in the eighties. Might be something more to it, though.[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 03:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:senior prom

Old Timey Me — Tue, 09 May 2006 23:56:35 GMT

Old Timey Me:

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yeah! ==
That low-pitched "Oh yeah!" that the Poopsmith shouts sort of reminds me of that stupid Yello song of the same name. It's associated with a high school movie (Ferris Bueller's Day Off) so it would sort of fit with the e-mail's prom theme. Do you think it might count as a real world reference?[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 23:56, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])<noinclude>[[Category:Internal link templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

:::::::Marzipan <> almond paste. Almond paste is just almonds ground with sugar and corn syrup, but isn't cooked. Marzipan is a type of candy that usually contains almond paste plus more sugar, and it's cooked until it reaches the "firm ball" stage (244 F). The cooking gives it a smoother texture, almost like fondant. But I'd still guess that the "almond paste" bit was meant as a reference to Marzipan. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Can we stop the edit war and discuss captions here? Thanks so much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please, let's do so. Now, the person who has been removing the quote has argued that it shouldn't be there because Marzipan, who says the quote, is not in the picture. I don't find this argument convincing. I don't think a quote has to line up ''exactly'' with the image as long as its connection with the image is clear. And here, I think the connection is indeed clear: what happens in the image ''is'' what happens every year. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::Well, Mr. Läufer, it DOESN'T happen every year, because some schools (my alma mater included) don't have prom kings and queens. The connection with the image wasn't clear, IMO, at all. Therefore, it didn't fit. (And I didn't find your grammar police edits to be convincing enough, yet you made them anyway, although a lot of them were unnecessary.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::All right, ISlayedTheKerrek, this is not the place for you to be discussing your grievances with my editing. Concerning the issue at hand: I still think the connection between image and caption is in fact clear enough, and, as two people have reverted to this caption, I suggest that it should stay this way. Unless others object, I would say that consensus favors the "Every freakin' year" caption. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Peep: worth a fun fact? ==

I noticed the inclusion of "summat" as a real-world reference, which made me wonder if including a similar item for the rap term [http://www.rapdict.org/Peep peep] was worth one as well, esp. since TBC use a lot of hip-hop lingo. Is it too widely known? | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Spelling of imaginary girlfriend ==

"* In this email, Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad's Ladies|imaginary girlfriend's]] name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-05-04|Quote of the Week]], it was spelled "Delelilia"."

Uhh, isn't the QotW an outtake? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 06:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Promstar Talker ==

The part about Pom-Pom and Strong Bad getting voted Prom King and Queen reminds me of the Homestar Talker -- "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad are totally going out"
:Although they never specifically say what they're going out to do. Maybe they're just going to the 7-11 for a quart of milk...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== What! No Undawares! ==
Is it just me or does the comment about strong bad saying that he doesn't wear underwear useless? I mean, if I were to make everyone's pants (including my own) disappear, I would definately wear something underneath. It's just common sense... {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 22:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad obviously didn't think this thing through very well. He was going to mass-pants everyone, but presumably anyone wanting to do such a thing (and who has half a brain) would either make it so their own pants weren't affected, or he wouldn't wear pants in the first place. But Strong Bad isn't known to think very far ahead when it comes to practical jokes and pranks, and obviously his mass-pantsing backfired in a way he didn't expect. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)