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Ramrod — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:15:38 GMT

Ramrod: /* Not Linked? */

== Not Linked? ==
See someone here (maybe even you) who's not linked properly? Please let us know! Leave a message on this page and we'll try to fix it. We want to give these generous people the recognition they deserve. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:58, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Is this not linked properly or not linked at all? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::Either/or. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 14:59, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Oh. I'm pretty sure that Leith is [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]]. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::::Yuppers, you're right on that one Fire. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|?Leith?]]</tt>'' 14:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

I (Eliot Frost) would appreciate having my name changed to TheJapaneseGeek and having it link to my userpage. Many thanks.

:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:14, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Could you switch my user name to display my real name (Sean Fennel)? I thought that's what I'd said earlier, but, whatever. I've asked for it now. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:Done. (It had been fixed in the ledger earlier, but not here on this page.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:29, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, I'm sorry about that Sean. As Dot Com said, I fixed it on the ledger but forgot to fix it here. I'm spacey like that some (okay, most) of the time. Sorry. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:29, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Hey there, just so you know, I'm on the thank you page as Nathaniel Paulsen, if you want to link to me. Also, could you change my name to read "Nat Paulsen" (which is the name I always go by)? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:19, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Fixed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:35, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

::::This is now fixed in the Ledger and my Excel spreadsheet as well. Thanks for the heads-up, Heimstern. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:17, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

:Jonnny = Jonathan Pobre. :) [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 21:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

::Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I never did get a mention on this page for my donation. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:All i know is that your username's not linked to anywhere in this page or in the [[HRWiki:Ledger|ledger]]. And I don't know your real name so... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

::My real name is Matt Kellner (I'm not afraid to give that out on the Wiki, since you can visit my website and see it there as well). I sent a donation via PayPal to JoeyDay on November 21st. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:25, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

:::And incidentally, that transaction was never entered on the ledger, though I suspect it should have been. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:29, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::You'll have to as the Big 3 about this one. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:40, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, and conveniently enough, JoeyDay is "taking a break". :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, it's not exactly [[User_talk:JoeyDay#hm....i_smell_procrastination...|a break]], and you can always ask Tom or Dot Com. They are close enough to wiki business that they could give you some kind of definitive answer, or something. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Kiefer, I'm sorry about the delay here. You've now been added to the ledger and the thank you page. I'm a little worried now that there may be others I forgot to add to the ledger, so I'll be going through my PayPal account with a fine tooth comb the next chance I get. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:25, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::::No problem. Thanks for adding me. It doesn't really matter all that much to me if I get public recognition for things like that, but I do know it's important to make sure your accounting is straight for such an expensive project. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

:If you feel like linking my name to my page, my name is [[User:Trey56|David Hansen]]. Thanks! 22:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::Done. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

:Hilary Simpson is me. Booya. Only saying so since you should discover another donation sometime today. ;) You can leave my "RL" name on there, though. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:53, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Brad Will is [[User:Duke33|Duke33]]. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

:Lawrence Runacres is [[User:Lor|Lor]] - That's me! Keep up the awesome work guys. --[[User:Lor|Lor]] 11:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

"Rebecca Burke" should be changed to "Rebecca J. Burke" and she is [[User:MadShrubbery|MadShrubbery]]. Thanks! --[[User:MadShrubbery|MadShrubbery]] 22:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

:Done. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

::Is the "Melissa Palmer" who gave 200 THE Melissa Palmer? If so, shouldn't she be linked [[Missy Palmer|here]]? Just a thought. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 17:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

:::We haven't done this in the past. Note that Matt Chapman and Karen Wagner are also not linked on the ledger and Thank You pages. Also see [[HRWiki_talk:Thank_You%21#Matt_Chapman|here]] and [[HRWiki_talk:Ledger#TBC.27s_Donation|here]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 17:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm on there twice apparently. I'm Justin Lake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]]

== Name Sizes ==
Is this dumb? Should we go back to normal sized names? Is there something I can change to make it look different/better? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 14:59, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Eh... I like it better with the normal sizes. The random sizes look kind of weird, and I'm having a hard time figuring out why some are hugenormous and some are tiny. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Yeah, I think it just looks strange having them all different sizes. {{User:Rainer/sig}}

: Maybe just put them in order based on how much donated and show the amount. [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

:: I agree with nintendorulez. It's very odd looking at the page when all of the names are in different sizes. You can just put them in the correct rank. You don't even need to mention that that is the rank... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:40, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Personally, I liked it the way it was. I don't think this is really the place to recognize amounts donated. I think this page should look particularly professional. Maybe we could find some other way to show relative amounts donated by users. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 12:53, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Is someone going to change it? IMO, it looks alright with names being ''slightly'' bigger, but seeing a gigantic, blue coloured "Joey Day" and "Tom Preuss" looks kinda strange. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 12:46, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I personally like it like this. If I donated $200 dollars, I'd like to have more credit than someone who only donated $2. (Although I know that we should be grateful that we get credit at all.) Anyway, that's my two cents. (pardon the pun) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Okay, I think it needs to change now. Tom's has taken over the whole page, practically. It looks awkward now. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:I like how it looks now, except for Tom's name (still too big, IMO). I think it is important to have some names slightly bigger if that person donated a lot of money, but not so much that it is distracting. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 08:31, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Anyone else think it would be a nice touch to add a screenshot of the "Thank You" poster over Marzipan's couch to this page? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom]] 15:30, 9 Mar 2005 (MST) -Tom as in "ComputerBox", not the admin.

:I don't think it would look very good. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::I think it's worth a shot at least to see what it'd look like. Dangit. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 07:20, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Sizage==

Is it just me, or did everybody just shrink? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:02, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think they did. On purpose. Some names were getting just too big. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

The entry <code><nowiki>[[User:JelloB|JelloB]],</nowiki></code> is missing a closing "span" tag. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Done. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Matt Chapman ==

What happened to the (legendary?) Matt Chapman wiki donation? Why isn't it listed here? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

:I guess JoeyDay still have problams with the check. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:00, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Now it's on. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:34, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Matt Chapman's name perhaps could be linked to his article. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, [[HRWiki_talk:Ledger#TBC.27s_Donation|nevermind]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:58, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== notice ==
Why is tom's name so big when he didn't donate nearly as much as thunderbird? This page needs to be updated, or the ledger. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:32, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

:Tom donated way more. The levels are exactly the way they should be. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:34, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

::Really? Maybe I missed one, but I thought he donated 529$, 100# something, and 48$. You in just one donation did over 1500$. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:37, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== Looks great ==

But "The bigger the name, the more the individual donated." is unnecessary now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

:I agree. This is more like the plaques on a wall showing lists of names divided into groups by amounts given. Besides, I believe someone's name was getting quite large from the heaps of money donated. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== ... ==

I really don't think this is a great setup. I mean, organizing people by the money they give will just lead to "don't break the bank!" and "What a cheapskate!" comments. You should just list them normally, no large/small text. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== not on the list yet ==

Hi Joey,

I hope you can add me to the list of donors. Here's my receipt from paypal and best wishes from the Wikia team

--[[User:Gil|Gil]] 19:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Web Accept Payment Sent (ID # 5JN294513J0632239)

Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
Jun. 27, 2006 Payment To Joey Day Completed ... -$20.00 USD

Related Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
Jun. 27, 2006 Charge From Credit Card Completed Details $20.00 USD

Name:
Joey Day (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email:
paypal@joeyday.com
Payment Sent to:

donations@hrwiki.org

:Thanks for the headsup Gil. Joey updated the ledger this morning and he's teaching me how to do it so it doesn't get out of date again. So sorry it took so long to recognize your donation. Thanks for your generous support! — [[User:JaneneDay|JaneneDay]] 02:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== $100 or more ==

Can we change that heading to say that? Just for clarification. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}} 15:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Makes sense to me. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Ramrod

Ramrod — Tue, 01 May 2007 05:19:48 GMT

Ramrod:

Hey, it's me, ramrod. The same guy as from the forum. I guess now that I'm going to try to help out here on the wiki.

Oh, and no bells and whistles here.

But I do have a [http://www.livejournal.com/users/ramrod-hx/ LiveJournal]. Check it out, I guess.

Oh, and [http://www.jellob.com/backyard/index.php?title=Ramrod Wiki link.]

User talk:Ramrod

Ramrod — Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:16:34 GMT

Ramrod: /* Sorry */

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki'''! We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask [[User talk:JoeyDay|me]] or any others on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing help, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
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* Above all, be sure to have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. Afterall, your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]] belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community. — '''''[[User:JoeyDay|Joey Day]]''' ([[User talk:JoeyDay|talk]])'' 04:50, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

*Hey, I don't know if you will ever see this, but you may remember "Mr.Clucky1" from the forums in the summer of 2006. That was me. Dude, I'm sorry for being an idiot. I made the post: "Should ramrod be kicked out of the forums?" and I was really stupid. Truce? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 05:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
*Hello? Anybody home? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} December 27, 2006.

* Man, I need to log in more often... Yeah man, no hard feelings. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]]
**Whoa. A reply. Yeah, I don't know if you remember, but I acted like an idiot. I don't why.... boredom maybe? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 16:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
*** Meh, it happens. To be quite honest, I can't even remember what you said. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]]
****I couldn't find it in the spam vault. You somehow(?) made me mad and I started a thread that said, "Should Ramrod be banned from the forums?" and had a poll on it. Kinda funny when you think back on it, really. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 23:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
*****Ah-ha! Found it! Enjoy. ;-) http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=9447 --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 23:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
* Heh. Hey, I won, 2 to 1! Horray for me! ;p Seriously though, I hold no grudge. It happened, its in the past.

User talk:Ramrod

Ramrod — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:41:04 GMT

Ramrod: /* Sorry */

User talk:Ramrod

Ramrod — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:44:36 GMT

Ramrod: /* Sorry */

Talk:Weclome Back

Ramrod — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 16:34:29 GMT

Ramrod: /* Topiary */

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

Weclome Back

Ramrod — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:52:37 GMT

Ramrod: /* Easter Eggs */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|weclomeback|A Folky Tale|The King of Town DVD}}

Homestar and the gang all reflect on their summer vacation.

'''Cast (in order of appearance): '''{{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}} , {{Film|The Poopsmith}}

'''Places:'''

'''Date:''' July 3, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:37

'''Page Title:''' Your dreams were your ticket out...

==Transcript==

==Easter Eggs==
* Click on the first Everybody at the end of the toon to see what Pom Pom and The Poopsmith did in their vacation.

==Fun Facts==

==External Links==
*[[HR:weclomeback.html|watch "Weclome Back"]]
*[[HR:weclomeback.swf|view the Flash file for "Weclome Back"]]
*[[Forum:8992|forum thread re: "Weclome Back"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Weclome Back

Ramrod — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:52:09 GMT

Ramrod: /* Easter Eggs */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|weclomeback|A Folky Tale|The King of Town DVD}}

Homestar and the gang all reflect on their summer vacation.

'''Cast (in order of appearance): '''{{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}} , {{Film|The Poopsmith}}

'''Places:'''

'''Date:''' July 3, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:37

'''Page Title:''' Your dreams were your ticket out...

==Transcript==

==Easter Eggs==
* Click on the forst Everybody at the end of the toon to see what Pom Pom and The Poopsmith did in their vacation.

==Fun Facts==

==External Links==
*[[HR:weclomeback.html|watch "Weclome Back"]]
*[[HR:weclomeback.swf|view the Flash file for "Weclome Back"]]
*[[Forum:8992|forum thread re: "Weclome Back"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Weclome Back

Ramrod — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:36:09 GMT

Ramrod:

Homestar and the gang all reflect on their summer vacation.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''{{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom-Pom}} ''(Easter Egg)'', {{Film|The Poopsmith}} ''(Easter Egg)''

Weclome Back

Ramrod — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:32:00 GMT

Ramrod:

Homestar and the gang all reflect on their summer vacation.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''{{Marzipan}}, {{Bubs}}, {{Strong Mad}}, {{The Cheat}}, {{Homsar}}, {{Strong Sad}}, {{The King of Town}}, {{Strong Bad}}, {{Homestar Runner}}, {{Pom-Pom}} ''(Easter Egg)'', {{The Poopsmith}} ''(Easter Egg)''

The Poopsmith Evolution

Ramrod — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:27:28 GMT

Ramrod:

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Info !! Created !! Appearances !! What's Changed?
|-
| [[Image:oldpoopsmith.png|150px]] || First [[Poopsmith]] || 1999 || [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)| Marshmallow's Last Stand]]|| N/A
|-
| [[Image:firstpoopsmith.png|150px]] || Second Poopsmith || 2000 || [[The King of Town DVD|The King of Town (Old version)]], [[Yearbook Character Page]] (in photo) || He has a thicker outline and slightly thicker hair, the poop on his gloves is now brown instead of green, his lip doesn't stick out as much, and he has less shading. His eyes are bigger.
|-
| <center>[[Image:jjcpoopsmith.png|100px]]</center> || Third Poopsmith || 2000 || [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] || His outlines are thinner, there is no poop on his feet, and the poop on his gloves is greener. His eyes are reversed.
|-
| [[Image:dvdpoopsmith.png|150px]] || Fourth Poopsmith || ??? || [[The King of Town DVD|The King of Town (New version)]] || He has a thicker, coloured outline, more shading, and his feet are lighter. His eyes are the right way around again.
|-
| [[Image:oldishpoopsmith.png|150px]] || Transitionary Poopsmith || 2000 || [[A Holiday Greeting]], [[Homestarloween Party]], [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[Theme Song Video]], [[The Luau]], [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[Yearbook Character Page]] || He has white hairs, darker colours, thinner outlines and darker poop on his gloves.
|-
| [[Image:modernpoopsmith.png|150px]] || Current Poopsmith || February 2002 || [[Where's The Cheat?]] to current || He has thin, grey hairs, darker feet and darker poop on his gloves. His larger eye has a gleam/light reflection, he has much more advanced shading and his outlines are thicker.
|}
[[Category: Character Evolution|Poopsmith Evolution, The]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:43:18 GMT

Ramrod: /* Señor Senior, Sr. */

__NOTOC__
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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
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* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of an sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Sad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.
====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be '''revised''' because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline.''' When Garfield makes a new expression in that comic strip of his, it's not something I write up in my diary. "Ooo, Garfield made a kind of a smirk, but he was wiggling his ear at the same time! I never saw that before. I wonder what he was thinking?"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''TrogDecline!'''Were you just looking for a fact to STUFF or something? -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' Just delete this fact...this is not worthy of STUFF -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Sat, 28 May 2005 14:20:57 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be '''revised''' because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I think this has been up for quite a while, and even though there is a lot of discussion, there are 15 Accepts and 6 Declines, so this looks like a winner.
** ''{At this point, Jay starts crying. Strong Bad puts away his Li'l Brudder drawing and walks away laughing.}'' How can the SAME PEOPLE declining "No la dee la dee la" accept this? It boggles my mind. There is no substance to this fact. It is "Family Guy did this, and Homestar did it too, and although there's no solid connection, it MUST be a reference" being accepted while "TBC are referencing THEMSELVES in something that contextually makes NO SENSE if it's not a reference and they reference themselves ALL THE FRIKKING TIME" being declined??? HAS THE WIKI GONE MAD?!?!?!?! ''{pant pant}'' Seriously needed to get that out of my system. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This actually was interesting, I dont think any of you realized that you can't play guitar with a lazor gun, ya know? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah...that's a first.
*'''Accept''' I guess if people accepted my half and half one, I should accept this one. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 22:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline.''' When Garfield makes a new expression in that comic strip of his, it's not something I write up in my diary. "Ooo, Garfield made a kind of a smirk, but he was wiggling his ear at the same time! I never saw that before. I wonder what he was thinking?"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''TrogDecline!'''Were you just looking for a fact to STUFF or something? -Walking Armless

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===
====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah...that's a first.
*'''Accept''' I guess if people accepted my half and half one, I should accept this one. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 22:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline.''' When Garfield makes a new expression in that comic strip of his, it's not something I write up in my diary. "Ooo, Garfield made a kind of a smirk, but he was wiggling his ear at the same time! I never saw that before. I wonder what he was thinking?"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''TrogDecline!'''Were you just looking for a fact to STUFF or something? -Walking Armless

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Mon, 23 May 2005 17:59:26 GMT

Ramrod: /* Unaired Episodes! */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:08 AM, 22 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined'''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:09:02 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[do over]]===
====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me 
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Abnehmen'''(that's German for decline) [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.''' This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment''' In [[Hairstyle Runner]], one of the sample styles is called smartass. My virgin ears! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005
*<strike>'''Accept!'''</strike> Haha, only joking '''Decline.''' I never heard of the word 'ass' being any stronger a curse than 'crap' or 'screw y'all!' myself. Technically the fact is true, but not fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 19:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**These "clever" votes are getting out of hand when we have Accept and Decline on the same line. I know you're "only joking," but please make your votes one or the other, so there's no chance of misunderstanding. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
***True, but when the vote is this lopsided, I think it's safe to... '''Second! Accept! Rewrite! Deline!''' (seriously, decline).--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein! Nein!''' Although I wouldn't be surprised to hear [[Thnikkaman]] say, "Yeah, STFU, kid!" In that acronym, of course. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:current status]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:Ramrod

Ramrod — Wed, 04 May 2005 02:44:36 GMT

Ramrod:

Hey, it's me, ramrod. The same guy as from the forum. I guess now that I'm going to try to help out here on the wiki.

Oh, and no bells and whistles here.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Wed, 04 May 2005 02:42:05 GMT

Ramrod: /* CORRECTIONED */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Tue, 03 May 2005 02:46:34 GMT

Ramrod: /* Potential reference */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:14:05 GMT

Ramrod: /* Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only withq the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]
*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Calvin Decline''' Somehow this reminds me of the Simpsons: "Were you saying 'boo,' or 'boo-urns?'" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
* '''Da Cline''' Then add him to the list of cast members. This isn't a fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:16, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts. --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 08:21, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Half a minute isn't much, and even if it was, who cares? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:18, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who said this. -Walking Armless

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"decline" However, on the simpsons there was the Krusty Komedy Klassic.

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It does sound similar. It also sound like a reference the Bros Chaps would make. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:28, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:10, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is so uninteresting. The point of funfacts isn't a place to count how many times who does what. You wouldn't see a fun fact saying that "This is the eighth time Strong Bad blames the Cheat for something in an e-mail" (made number up). I'm declining it basically on the grounds that nobody really cares. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:51 AM 2 April 2005

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:29, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I actually thought of this when first saw this e-mail. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:06, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmm... it's kinda tough to say Cumberdale looks like anyone, seeing as how he's composed of roughly eight pixels. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could someone post a picture of the three of them side by side?

Done and done. Now judge for yourself. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:36, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

[[Image:edgajr.png]][[Image:tompkinteen.png]][[Image:roncumberdale.PNG]]

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad always pronounces names and places wrong, I'm positive it has nothing to do with that game. --[[User:Minteh|Minteh]] 12:02, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
**Tis why I said Balete--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:54, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Totally unfounded. Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:04, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And geez, you could have at least spelled "children's" correctly. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Uh...that's what this page is for, EEDIOT. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment and a decline''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declardon me''' Oww, my freakin' ears! How could the Brothers Chaps stoop to such apalling vulgarity?! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:47, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'd''' "one of the few"? tsk, tsk. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:36, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I doubt he was "offended" by the use of the word hell or anything like that, he was just noting a useless fact. Whatever the case, I decline.

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*****'''Hehe, cease. Tis a funny word.''' *watches as people give me wierd looks*... Well, its true. Cease is a funny word. Neway, I '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:57, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decwine''' This is true, but not relevant. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:50, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ('''Seventh''') We all KNOW Bubs is greedy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:37, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINORZED''' A turkish website big in America... an American website big in Pakistan. These are not similar. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:10, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Two'd!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''D to the Cline''' Uh... so? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:53, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Ya, and he took "Holy Crap" from email 1, and 2, and every other frickin email hes done. BORING! *screen turns blue with white "Boring!" on it*--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:59, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diclyne''' "Taken from?" Hardly. He's just using a common phrase more than once. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:55, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' The Brothers Chaps used a new SWF filename so they could tell the difference between it and the older intro. The HTML filename is still the same because it causes the new intro to be the default. This saves the trouble of changing all the link paths on other pages. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I read this one before it was STUFF'd. I thought it was pretty interesting, kind of. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:38, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A scooby doo reference would be "If it weren't for those meddling kids..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:48, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diggity-decline''' Yeah, or pretty much every cartoon series ever made. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the castlefunnies was not syndicated in 1947. The strip is in color, and it's only one line long, not half a page! The poopsmith talking in commas is a clear reference to woodstock in the Peanuts strip, who didn't even exist until the late 1960s. And the font used for the title "The Castlefunnies" looks much too modern. When Strongbad talks about the fact that the dry pencil scare of '47 only lasted three days, what he's saying (assuming he's not just making up the pencil scare just to be sarcastic) is that there was NO pencil scare at the time that they started producing the castlefunny pencil moistener (whenever that happened to be--looking at the comic strip style, I'd guess in the 60s at the earliest, though possibly as recent as modern day). --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' Just needs something like "If what Strong Bad says is true...".

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second Kerrek's Motion''' People these days are getting sloppy with vote signage. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:32, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*<s>'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)</s>
**After reading all the arguments, I am changing my vote to a '''Decline'''. Animated or not, it is stiull just a prop and is just as unimportant. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. Oh, and '''Point Three''' Sign your vote.--[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Comment.''' While "newintro" had a good reason for the different filename, this doesn't, so, '''Decline'''(unless sbemail126.swf gives you something different, in which case, '''Accept'''). --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're similar, but definitely not the same. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:13, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Even if it does look the same, it is worth noting that the claw is reappearing. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Also remove "etc.. etc." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.
*'''Decline''' Everyone should be able to recognise instantly that the villian is your generic 80s cartoon villian before being told in a 'fun' fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:12, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.
*'''ULTRA OMEGA SUPER SEVERE HYPER ALPHA DECLINE!'''-What is this crap?!---[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline''' Wow, I gotta say this is fan-FREAKING-tastic! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 05:19, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Double Decline!''' What? 'M'arshie's initial is M? Wow! Have you noticed the Strong Bad pill in the new games menu has SB on it? Come on!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:02, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' OK, enough with the sarcasm already - in case you hadn't figured it out, this item is in reference to the easter egg at the end, the one that shows the Marshie action figure. The box says "His first initial is 'M' - that's where this comes from. Someone's not being totally dense; it's from an easter egg and therefore, someone felt it was mentionable... even though the quote itself points out something undeniably obvious. Cut the guy a little slack (whoever he is)... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Cane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time.

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangilical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but its a possible reference.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.'''[[User:68.233.220.14|68.233.220.14]] 18:37, 30 Mar 2005 (MST) You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Might I quote the national anthem? "The people are so great, but really there's only me, and that means I'm so great, and also there's the Cheat." --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

==== Segmented Eyes ====
Strongbad's use of the phrase "Segmented eyes" may derive from the influential 90's cartoon show Ren and Stimpy, where the [http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3085/05_lyrics/muddy.html Muddy Mudskipper theme song] mentions that character having segmented eyes.

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Comment.''' Now I get it: He says, "Do you ever '''see''' me in a car?" He said that because we didn't see Strong Bad in a car yet.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 04:59, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
He must be s

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Ramrod — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:10:24 GMT

Ramrod: /* Self-Made Man */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only withq the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]
*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Calvin Decline''' Somehow this reminds me of the Simpsons: "Were you saying 'boo,' or 'boo-urns?'" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
* '''Da Cline''' Then add him to the list of cast members. This isn't a fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:16, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts. --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 08:21, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Half a minute isn't much, and even if it was, who cares? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:18, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who said this. -Walking Armless

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"decline" However, on the simpsons there was the Krusty Komedy Klassic.

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It does sound similar. It also sound like a reference the Bros Chaps would make. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:28, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:10, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is so uninteresting. The point of funfacts isn't a place to count how many times who does what. You wouldn't see a fun fact saying that "This is the eighth time Strong Bad blames the Cheat for something in an e-mail" (made number up). I'm declining it basically on the grounds that nobody really cares. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:51 AM 2 April 2005

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:29, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I actually thought of this when first saw this e-mail. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:06, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmm... it's kinda tough to say Cumberdale looks like anyone, seeing as how he's composed of roughly eight pixels. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could someone post a picture of the three of them side by side?

Done and done. Now judge for yourself. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:36, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

[[Image:edgajr.png]][[Image:tompkinteen.png]][[Image:roncumberdale.PNG]]

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad always pronounces names and places wrong, I'm positive it has nothing to do with that game. --[[User:Minteh|Minteh]] 12:02, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
**Tis why I said Balete--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:54, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Totally unfounded. Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:04, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And geez, you could have at least spelled "children's" correctly. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Uh...that's what this page is for, EEDIOT. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment and a decline''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declardon me''' Oww, my freakin' ears! How could the Brothers Chaps stoop to such apalling vulgarity?! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:47, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'd''' "one of the few"? tsk, tsk. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:36, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I doubt he was "offended" by the use of the word hell or anything like that, he was just noting a useless fact. Whatever the case, I decline.

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*****'''Hehe, cease. Tis a funny word.''' *watches as people give me wierd looks*... Well, its true. Cease is a funny word. Neway, I '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:57, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decwine''' This is true, but not relevant. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:50, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ('''Seventh''') We all KNOW Bubs is greedy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:37, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINORZED''' A turkish website big in America... an American website big in Pakistan. These are not similar. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:10, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Two'd!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''D to the Cline''' Uh... so? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:53, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Ya, and he took "Holy Crap" from email 1, and 2, and every other frickin email hes done. BORING! *screen turns blue with white "Boring!" on it*--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:59, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diclyne''' "Taken from?" Hardly. He's just using a common phrase more than once. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:55, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' The Brothers Chaps used a new SWF filename so they could tell the difference between it and the older intro. The HTML filename is still the same because it causes the new intro to be the default. This saves the trouble of changing all the link paths on other pages. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I read this one before it was STUFF'd. I thought it was pretty interesting, kind of. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:38, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A scooby doo reference would be "If it weren't for those meddling kids..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:48, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diggity-decline''' Yeah, or pretty much every cartoon series ever made. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the castlefunnies was not syndicated in 1947. The strip is in color, and it's only one line long, not half a page! The poopsmith talking in commas is a clear reference to woodstock in the Peanuts strip, who didn't even exist until the late 1960s. And the font used for the title "The Castlefunnies" looks much too modern. When Strongbad talks about the fact that the dry pencil scare of '47 only lasted three days, what he's saying (assuming he's not just making up the pencil scare just to be sarcastic) is that there was NO pencil scare at the time that they started producing the castlefunny pencil moistener (whenever that happened to be--looking at the comic strip style, I'd guess in the 60s at the earliest, though possibly as recent as modern day). --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' Just needs something like "If what Strong Bad says is true...".

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second Kerrek's Motion''' People these days are getting sloppy with vote signage. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:32, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*<s>'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)</s>
**After reading all the arguments, I am changing my vote to a '''Decline'''. Animated or not, it is stiull just a prop and is just as unimportant. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. Oh, and '''Point Three''' Sign your vote.--[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Comment.''' While "newintro" had a good reason for the different filename, this doesn't, so, '''Decline'''(unless sbemail126.swf gives you something different, in which case, '''Accept'''). --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're similar, but definitely not the same. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:13, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Even if it does look the same, it is worth noting that the claw is reappearing. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Also remove "etc.. etc." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.
*'''Decline''' Everyone should be able to recognise instantly that the villian is your generic 80s cartoon villian before being told in a 'fun' fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:12, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.
*'''ULTRA OMEGA SUPER SEVERE HYPER ALPHA DECLINE!'''-What is this crap?!---[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline''' Wow, I gotta say this is fan-FREAKING-tastic! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 05:19, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Double Decline!''' What? 'M'arshie's initial is M? Wow! Have you noticed the Strong Bad pill in the new games menu has SB on it? Come on!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:02, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' OK, enough with the sarcasm already - in case you hadn't figured it out, this item is in reference to the easter egg at the end, the one that shows the Marshie action figure. The box says "His first initial is 'M' - that's where this comes from. Someone's not being totally dense; it's from an easter egg and therefore, someone felt it was mentionable... even though the quote itself points out something undeniably obvious. Cut the guy a little slack (whoever he is)... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Cane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time.

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangilical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but its a possible reference.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.'''[[User:68.233.220.14|68.233.220.14]] 18:37, 30 Mar 2005 (MST) You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Might I quote the national anthem? "The people are so great, but really there's only me, and that means I'm so great, and also there's the Cheat." --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

==== Segmented Eyes ====
Strongbad's use of the phrase "Segmented eyes" may derive from the influential 90's cartoon show Ren and Stimpy, where the [http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3085/05_lyrics/muddy.html Muddy Mudskipper theme song] mentions that character having segmented eyes.

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Comment.''' Now I get it: He says, "Do you ever '''see''' me in a car?" He said that because we didn't see Strong Bad in a car yet.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 04:59, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
He must be s

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
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== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]
*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Calvin Decline''' Somehow this reminds me of the Simpsons: "Were you saying 'boo,' or 'boo-urns?'" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose

====Lil John====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
* '''Da Cline''' Then add him to the list of cast members. This isn't a fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:16, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts. --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 08:21, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Half a minute isn't much, and even if it was, who cares? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:18, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who said this. -Walking Armless

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"decline" However, on the simpsons there was the Krusty Komedy Klassic.

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It does sound similar. It also sound like a reference the Bros Chaps would make. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:28, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is so uninteresting. The point of funfacts isn't a place to count how many times who does what. You wouldn't see a fun fact saying that "This is the eighth time Strong Bad blames the Cheat for something in an e-mail" (made number up). I'm declining it basically on the grounds that nobody really cares. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:51 AM 2 April 2005

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:29, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I actually thought of this when first saw this e-mail. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:06, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmm... it's kinda tough to say Cumberdale looks like anyone, seeing as how he's composed of roughly eight pixels. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could someone post a picture of the three of them side by side?

Done and done. Now judge for yourself. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:36, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

[[Image:edgajr.png]][[Image:tompkinteen.png]][[Image:roncumberdale.PNG]]

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad always pronounces names and places wrong, I'm positive it has nothing to do with that game. --[[User:Minteh|Minteh]] 12:02, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
**Tis why I said Balete--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:54, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Totally unfounded. Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:04, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And geez, you could have at least spelled "children's" correctly. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Uh...that's what this page is for, EEDIOT. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment and a decline''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declardon me''' Oww, my freakin' ears! How could the Brothers Chaps stoop to such apalling vulgarity?! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:47, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'd''' "one of the few"? tsk, tsk. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:36, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I doubt he was "offended" by the use of the word hell or anything like that, he was just noting a useless fact. Whatever the case, I decline.

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*****'''Hehe, cease. Tis a funny word.''' *watches as people give me wierd looks*... Well, its true. Cease is a funny word. Neway, I '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:57, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decwine''' This is true, but not relevant. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:50, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ('''Seventh''') We all KNOW Bubs is greedy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:37, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLINORZED''' A turkish website big in America... an American website big in Pakistan. These are not similar. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:10, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Two'd!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''D to the Cline''' Uh... so? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:53, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Ya, and he took "Holy Crap" from email 1, and 2, and every other frickin email hes done. BORING! *screen turns blue with white "Boring!" on it*--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:59, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diclyne''' "Taken from?" Hardly. He's just using a common phrase more than once. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:55, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' The Brothers Chaps used a new SWF filename so they could tell the difference between it and the older intro. The HTML filename is still the same because it causes the new intro to be the default. This saves the trouble of changing all the link paths on other pages. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I read this one before it was STUFF'd. I thought it was pretty interesting, kind of. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:38, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A scooby doo reference would be "If it weren't for those meddling kids..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:48, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diggity-decline''' Yeah, or pretty much every cartoon series ever made. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the castlefunnies was not syndicated in 1947. The strip is in color, and it's only one line long, not half a page! The poopsmith talking in commas is a clear reference to woodstock in the Peanuts strip, who didn't even exist until the late 1960s. And the font used for the title "The Castlefunnies" looks much too modern. When Strongbad talks about the fact that the dry pencil scare of '47 only lasted three days, what he's saying (assuming he's not just making up the pencil scare just to be sarcastic) is that there was NO pencil scare at the time that they started producing the castlefunny pencil moistener (whenever that happened to be--looking at the comic strip style, I'd guess in the 60s at the earliest, though possibly as recent as modern day). --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' Just needs something like "If what Strong Bad says is true...".

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second Kerrek's Motion''' People these days are getting sloppy with vote signage. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:32, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*<s>'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)</s>
**After reading all the arguments, I am changing my vote to a '''Decline'''. Animated or not, it is stiull just a prop and is just as unimportant. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. Oh, and '''Point Three''' Sign your vote.--[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Comment.''' While "newintro" had a good reason for the different filename, this doesn't, so, '''Decline'''(unless sbemail126.swf gives you something different, in which case, '''Accept'''). --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're similar, but definitely not the same. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:13, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Even if it does look the same, it is worth noting that the claw is reappearing. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Also remove "etc.. etc." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.
*'''Decline''' Everyone should be able to recognise instantly that the villian is your generic 80s cartoon villian before being told in a 'fun' fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:12, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.
*'''ULTRA OMEGA SUPER SEVERE HYPER ALPHA DECLINE!'''-What is this crap?!---[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline''' Wow, I gotta say this is fan-FREAKING-tastic! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 05:19, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Double Decline!''' What? 'M'arshie's initial is M? Wow! Have you noticed the Strong Bad pill in the new games menu has SB on it? Come on!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:02, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' OK, enough with the sarcasm already - in case you hadn't figured it out, this item is in reference to the easter egg at the end, the one that shows the Marshie action figure. The box says "His first initial is 'M' - that's where this comes from. Someone's not being totally dense; it's from an easter egg and therefore, someone felt it was mentionable... even though the quote itself points out something undeniably obvious. Cut the guy a little slack (whoever he is)... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Cane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time.

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangilical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but its a possible reference.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.'''[[User:68.233.220.14|68.233.220.14]] 18:37, 30 Mar 2005 (MST) You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Might I quote the national anthem? "The people are so great, but really there's only me, and that means I'm so great, and also there's the Cheat." --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

==== Segmented Eyes ====
Strongbad's use of the phrase "Segmented eyes" may derive from the influential 90's cartoon show Ren and Stimpy, where the [http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3085/05_lyrics/muddy.html Muddy Mudskipper theme song] mentions that character having segmented eyes.

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Comment.''' Now I get it: He says, "Do you ever '''see''' me in a car?" He said that because we didn't see Strong Bad in a car yet.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 04:59, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
He must be s

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)