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Talk:Bronco Trolleys

Runstar Homer — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:49:47 GMT

Runstar Homer:

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==Closed STUFF==
===Wagon Wheel===
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== Taste Test ==

I ate a Bronco Trolley once. It's not that bad actually (I peeled the orage slice though).- [[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:I just don't see how these could be eten fast enough to be an after-school snack, if only because of the orange slice.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::Ummm...An "after-school snack" doesn't have to be quick and easy to prepare...You just very well prepare fajitas as an after-school snack.
:::My whole family thinks I'm weird for eating them, but I think Bronco Trolleys are DELICIOUS! --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 15:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Bronco Trolleys are AWESOME!!!!! I think they are delicious, but I peel the orange slice (after all, how COULD you eat an orange slice with the peel on?).[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

===Food versus game===
I'm wondering if another article should be added for the actual FOOD of bronco trolleys, in addition to having the article on the game. Since the game is named after the food.

:I wonder if the food really existed (besides in the Chapman's kitchen) prior to the game. Did it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

::From the [[l33t Interview]]... '''Mike:''' I had a dream with them right when the site started. So that's why I made the game, but never ate one until about a month ago. I was missing out! Thems are good! - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 13:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, I meant in terms of disambiguation. Such as Trogdor the song is a diferent article than Trogdor the dragon. [[User:TestZero|TestZero]] 06:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Well, this article is short, and the food didn't really exist except as a reaction to this game. So I don't see a good argument for a separate article on the real-live Bronco Trolley. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Pan Pan

Runstar Homer — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:07:51 GMT

Runstar Homer:

{{featuredarticle}}
Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:42, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Change his name? ==

Since the stinkoman game states his name as Panpan, I believe the page title should be changed --JohnoBoy

:Uh, the Instruction Booklet for the very game you mention has it "Pan Pan". In fact, that's where wejust found out the name for [[1-Up]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:42, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Hmm, the intro says PANPAN as one word... guess it's one of those bad translation/bad spelling jokes of the game... --JohnoBoy

== Panpan in Japanese ==

Currently, the article states that panpan is Japanese for prostitute. My dictionary (EDICT) does not have this word, though, but a web search does indicate that it's true.

What it does list, however, is the word pansuke. Knowing a little Japanese, I would think that this could very well be where the word comes from, since they do have a tendency to shorten down words to the first two syllables.

I want to re-write that sentence, but I'd like to get confirmation from Japanese people first. Therefore, I've placed a question on the non-Japanese Chatsubo of the Japanese Wikipedia to try and get some confirmation. [[Wikipedia:ja:Wikipedia:Chatsubo_for_non-japanese-speakers|(link)]]

This is the sentence I would be replacing it with:
:In Japanese, the word panpan is an [[Wikipedia:Adjectival phrase|adjectival noun]] and adverb meaning slap. It is also an abbreviated form of "pansuke", meaning a prostitute.
Alternatively, the less technical, but IMO also less clear explanation:
:In Japanese, panpan is a word meaning slap. It is also an abbreviated form of "pansuke", meaning a prostitute.

Of course, if it turns out the words have no relation, I'll be changing the last part of the sentence. However, which of these should we use? The words "adjectival noun" may be hard to understand for non-native speakers (such as me!), but the other one is too general, in my opinion - and a compromise, only mentioning that it's an adverb, would be inaccurate.

Any one care to voice their opinion on this one? --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] <strike>(e)</strike> 01:00, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:I've gotten a reply on the Japanese Wikipedia, posted below for reference (along with my question) - I've corrected the article accordingly.
===Question posted at Japanese Wikipedia===
今日は！Some of you may or may not know Homestar Runner - those that do have probably seen the 20X6 version of Pom Pom, called Pan Pan.
In the article on him at the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pan_Pan Homestar Runner Wiki], we had a user note that in Japanese, the word panpan means prostitute. Looking in my dictionary (EDICT), that word does not appear - however, the word パンスケ does, and is listed as meaning prostitute. I know a little Japanese, and also know that it is not uncommon to abbreviate words - therefore, panpan could very well be an abbreviation of パンスケ.
However, before I go putting that into the article, I'd like to be sure that I'm not mistaken. Anyone able to confirm or deny this? --[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pidgeot en:User:Pidgeot]
:こんにちは Pidgeot。パンスケ is probably an abbreviation for パンパン + スケ。スケ is a vulgarism/slung for women. The Japanese word パンパン (Panpan) means a kind of prostitute certainly, e.g. see [http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?MT=%A5%D1%A5%F3%A5%D1%A5%F3&kind=jn] (goo JJ dictionary). However パンパン has other meanings, see [http://www2.alc.co.jp/ejr/index.php?word_in=%83p%83%93%83p%83%93&word_in2=%82%A0%82%A2%82%A4%82%A6%82%A8&word_in3=PVawEWi72JXCKoa0Je] (Eijiro JE/EJ dictionary). So there are 3 meanings:
:# prostitute, especially in postwar Japan. (So it's probably an out of date word)
:# onomatopoeia for sounds of handclap or something.
:# imitative word for bulging, plumpy, swollen or some such appearance.
:I don't know about Pan Pan/Pom Pom or 20x6, but the appearance (Image:panpan.PNG) hints that 3 is the origin of the name, I guess. Sorry about my broken English, eG aka [[Wikipedia:ja:利用者:Electric goat|電気山羊]] 2005年4月27日 (水) 14:31 (UTC)

:::This is most interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:37, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Prove it ==

Is there proof that pan pan is pom pom, just because their name's sound alike isn't enough unless there is proof.

: Uh, because their body shapes and patterns are extremely similar? Because grabbing the Pom Pom capsule on the Games menu creates Pan Pan's face? Because it's freaking obvious? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:40, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you should've been freakin' nice.
:Yeah Jay, don't be so mean. He has a point, although I think it's pretty obvious that Pan Pan is Pom Pom. (No offence). {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

::Uh, it was a stupid question. Don't give jay a hard time. I wouldn't have been much nicer. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Also, it should be noted that this discussion is '''5 months old'''. There's really no need to come back to it now. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Scuse me. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:17, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:::: Quite all right, really. I've been known to sound ruder than I intend, though I think I'm not as bad about that as I used to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:03, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

== Leftie Panda? ==

How do we know Pan Pan is left-handed? Where do it show that? Oh, uh, wait. i forgot. Anyways, where's the proof? See ya. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 12:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:Probably when he ate his rice... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::He eats rice right-handed on [[Main Page 17]], but holds a spoon in his left hand in [[Under Construction]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Ohhh, maybe he amideteris (i don't know how to spell that, so if i didn't do it right, you can change it)?[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 23:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia Time ==

Apologies if this has been brought up before, but Pan Pan's head seems to be taken from an old sketching of Trivia Time - specifically the one in the top right of T. T.'s page in the museum sketchbook. Is this notable?
:I'm not sold on this, it's a little bit of a stretch at least, but I'm leaving it up and wondering if anyone else has a view on it. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 18:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I've added it to the page anyway, but it's up for STUFF'n if you so wish -Grover Junior
:::Only Fun Facts can be voted on through STUFF. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Then a Fun Fact it shall be. -Grover Junior

== Ranma reference! ==

I tried to post this straight up, but maybe I did it wrong, because it got deleted. The random appearance of a giant panda in anime is, at least in my mind, a clear reference to [[Wikipedia:Genma_Saotome|Genma Saotome]] from the anime/manga [[Wikipedia:Ranma 1/2|Ranma 1/2]]. I'm actually not a fan of this anime at all, but for those who don't know, Genma appears often as a giant panda. Ranma 1/2 is, as I understand it, one of the older and more widely circulated anime shows, like Dragonball and Sailor Moon--one which the Brothers Chaps likely saw at least in passing and drew from when creating their parody. If there's any Ranma experts out there, maybe you can confirm or deny this. It just seemed to me like it really ought to be on the page, as more than just an "obligatory animal companion."
And yes, I know, this discussion thread is really old. --[[User:Toastburner|Toastburner]] 08:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:japanese cartoon#Pan Pan]] for why not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I'll plead my case there. [[User:Toastburner|Toastburner]]

Talk:Stinkoman

Runstar Homer — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:59:11 GMT

Runstar Homer:

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==Name==
Keep it this way.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 15:39, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)
(except for screenshot)

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:38, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)


What the crap? Why has this been moved to Stinkoman 20X6? His name is Stinkoman! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. This should be moved back to [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 03:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::The only reason I didn't do it myself was because I'd like to hear Firebird's reason. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:"Stinkoman" is the character. "Stinkoman 20X6" is the game. Nothing needs a disambig here. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think someone got the character and the [[TV Shows|TV show]] mixed up. But then his name would be "Stinko Man K: 20X6" instead of "Stinkoman 20X6". I think this needs moving back regardless, as his name is always "Stinkoman", or in some cases "Stinko Man". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 07:25, 6 June 2005 (BST)

:I've always considered his name Stinkoman 20X6, but apparently I'm wrong. I'll go ahead and move it and delete the disambig page. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:11, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Okay. Moved back. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:27, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::When is his name Stinko Man? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

:On the TV show logo, and the [[Store]] page for the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] shirt. I think that's all of them. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 04:15, 11 August 2005 (BST)

His legs are at a different angle in the second one. --[[User:62.254.32.17|62.254.32.17]] 14:27, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah! Take ''that'', Joshua!>:) ...I think. Wait, ''what?'' -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
::What are you talking about? You take pride in saying I'm incorrect? As if you pwned me or something? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::Sorry, I had said that way back when I didn't like you very much after you had reverted my talk page. [[User talk:Joshua#Stop editing me!|Recall]]... or maybe don't. I looked at it and it's kind of scary. Oh, and he's just in a slightly different position, and his legs aren't always spread. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
== Messy Talk Page ==
So, are we ever gonna divide this part into sections, or are we just gonna have it messy like this? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:What do you mean by "messy"? Looks fine to me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:I mean I can't tell where each discussion starts and ends, and I think we should make them <nowiki>== Sections ==</nowiki>. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
There we go for starters. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I've put <nowiki></nowiki> in where I think titles should be. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 16:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== This is not an evolution. ==
His legs are lighter. That's not an evolution, that's a minor improvement in his shading. I think it should be deleted. Who agrees? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Not me. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:15, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:I don't agree with you, Poopsmith Z. It is an evolution, albeit a small one, but it is interesting for some to point out. (I didn't notice it until it was added here, and I was wondering if any of the 20X6 characters evolved.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::In that case, this might be [[Talk:1-Up#Evolution|interesting]]. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks the same to me.

:It's exactly the same guys, the second one is just in a different pose and zoomed out a little.
----

== Tengu Man Update! ==

I didn't know if I should have screwed around with the article part, so I just though I'd put this here. Anyway, Tengu Man is also known to use the phrase "Kid, you're almost not worth the effort!", and 1-Up wouldn't have been worth the effort in level 4 (Fistcuff!) if he hadn't had Stinkoman's Power Crunch. Fun Fact: A tengu is a bird with wings but apparently can't fly, and Tengu Man is an air creature with wind attacks like tornado hold. -[[User:Runstar Homer|A intelligent (I think) Runstar Homer]]
:Tengu can fly. They're little humanoid crows, or possibly red dudes with long noses and little wings. They definitely fly, and do magic.

They can? Weird. Oh well. Anyway, I should have figured that out seeing a Tengu Man can fly. He has a very unique ability of staying above you the whole time, which makes him really ----ing hard.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 23:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Evolution again? ==
Stinkoman's body shine is missing in [[alternate universe]]. Is this another update? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Well it would make sense. I mean no human being can really have a SHINY body. On the other hand, if he were sparkly clean, then... -Nicktendo 20X6

== Stinkoman K ==
Shouldn't his name be Stinkoman K?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 20:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:That was more the title of his program than of himself. Plus he's never actually been referred to as "Stinkoman K". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Someone say [[HRFWiki:User:Stinkoman K/Stinkoman K|my name]]? -{{User:Stinkoman K/Sig}} 16:11, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

== Cam Clarke ==

Akira is mentioned, but not the fact that Stinkoman is *so obviously* meant to sound like Cam Clarke. (Who voiced Kaneda in one of the Akira translations)

== Eyes ==

Stinkoman's eyes should look more aname style - {{user:Derrickee3/sig}} 03:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

== Another goings on ==

There's no mention of the accompanying background ''-pzzzziooou-ZING-KlanG! Zzzzip!-'' sound whenever he shouts something, such as in the instance of, y'know, a challenge or whatever. Reminiscent of those good ol' Fist-of-the-North-Star-esque head splozions I remember from childhood (from the cartoons, not that I could splode heads like Scanners when I was young ... sadly.)
--[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 06:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

==Name==

Have any of you never heard of [[wikipedia:Soy Sauce Warrior Kikkoman|Kikkoman]]? It's a Japanese internet phenomenon.--[[User:The 1-Up|The 1-Up]] 00:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard of the Kikkoman teriyaki sauce, but nothing about it being connected to an internet something. Interesting connection with the name though... maybe the inspiration came from there.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Scrolling Shooter Games Menu

Runstar Homer — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:46:21 GMT

Runstar Homer:

[[Image:GamesMenuWii.png|thumb|The current ''Games'' menu]]

'''Scrolling Shooter Games Menu''' is the current [[homestarrunner.com]] games selection screen. It is styled from the vertical [[Wikipedia:Scrolling shooter|scrolling shooter]] arcade games from the early '80s. The older games are available from the WWII style fighter, while the newer more advanced games are selected from the fancy space fighters. A [[20X6]] character describes each game.

'''Page Title:''' Shots do NOT hurt other players... yet.

'''Date:''' July 29, 2004

== Available Games==
*[[Handheld Games Menu|Old Games]] — ''So old they are new! Maybe you forgot!''
*[[TROGDOR!|Trogdor]] — ''One armed dragon might! Thrilling level!''
*[[Population: Tire|Pop Tire]] — ''Bouncing tire Challenge! Begin at once!''
*[[Thy Dungeonman|Dungeon Man]] — ''Type an adventure! Keyboard to the max!''
*[[Awexome Cross]] — ''Rolling Cheat thunder! Grab n go cash!''
*[[StrongBadZone|SBZone]] — ''Avoiding shaped attacks in a Strong Bad Zone!''
*[[Marshie's Malloween Mix-Up|Marshie Ween]] — ''Switching colored treats! Floating delights!''
*[[Secret Collect.|Secret Collect]] — ''A flashing maze to create many times!''
*[[RhinoFeeder|Rhino Feeder]] - ''Mighty zoo animal! Elude a snake!''
*[[Peasant's Quest|Peasant Quest]] — ''Robed peasant hero! Text and graphic style!''
*[[Stinkoman 20X6|Stinko Man]] - ''Sidemost scrolling! Stinkoman presents!''
*[[Thy Dungeonman 3|Dungeon Man 3]] - ''Text and graphics! Orange adventure!''
*[[Viidelectrix|Wii Games]] - ''Games for Wii! Wave it all around!''
*[[Make-O Your Own Stinko|Stinko Comix]] - ''Make your own comics! Sprite based humors!''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click the center "Games Menu... [[1982]] Videlectrix.com" to go to the [[Videlectrix]] website.
*Click on the level number to change the backgrounds.
<gallery>
Image:Gamesmenulvl1.PNG|
Image:Gamesmenulvl2.PNG|
Image:Gamesmenulvl3.PNG|
</gallery>
*When you collect one of the [[Wikipedia:Power-up|power-ups]] that appear occasionally, the character ship and avatar changes accordingly.
:{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Character !! width=90 | Avatar (closed mouth) !! width=90 | Avatar (open mouth) !! Ship !! Power-Up
|-
| <center>[[1-Up]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu 1-Up.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu 1-Up (open).PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu 1-Up Ship.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu 1-Up Pill.PNG|75px]]</center>
|-
| <center>[[Stinkoman]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Stinkoman.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Stinkoman (open).PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Stinkoman Ship.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Stinkoman Pill.PNG|75px]]</center>
|-
| <center>[[Pan Pan]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Pan Pan.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Pan Pan (open).PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Pam Pam Ship.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Pan Pan Pill.PNG|75px]]</center>
|-
| <center>[[Cheatball]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu The Cheat.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu The Cheat (open).PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu The Cheat Ship.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu The Cheat Pill.PNG|75px]]</center>
|-
| <center>[[20X6 Coach Z]] </center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Coach Z.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Coach Z (open).PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Coach Z Ship.PNG|75px]]</center>
| <center>[[Image:Games Menu Coach Z Pill.PNG|75px]]</center>
|}

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
[[Image:2nite.png|thumb|right|Screenshot of the New Games page when played using Flash Player 6; note the unused ''[[TROGDOR!]]'' message.]]
*When this menu was first released, the information bar at the bottom (score, brand, level) was not there. It was added shortly thereafter.
*When viewing the flash file, a small green line floats to the bottom on the left side in level 3.
*This is the first time Cheatball and 20X6 Coach Z have ever been shown.
*The score can't move above 0.
*Loading the page up with Flash Player 6 will cause the browser to complain about a script in the background making everything run slowly. If cancel is selected it will cause the menu to cease loading the levels (thus showing "Level", without any numeric value assigned, leaving a blank screen), cause the sprite to go haywire (it'll go through every morphing and moving animation over and over and over...) and have some characters say an otherwise unused message ("''Trogdor is the Greatest Game! Play 2Nite!''").
**Note: The message "TROGDOR IS THE GREATEST GAME! PLAY 2NITE!!" is actually the default value of the text box. It is replaced with another message when you move the mouse over an item. The text is never seen unless all actionscript is stopped, which happens when you get the "running slowly" dialog box described above and choose to stop running scripts.
*When [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] was added to the games menu, it briefly [[:Image:GamesMenuWithDungeonMan3WithoutRhinoFeeder.PNG|replaced RhinoFeeder]].

=== Remarks ===
*Each ship has a different maneuverability. From fastest to slowest: Cheatball, Stinkoman, 1-Up, 20X6 Coach Z, and Pan Pan.
*While most of the website fits into a small rectangle with rounded edges, this menu has proportions more like that of an arcade cabinet's monitor, with sharp edges.
*Despite using 20X6 characters, each pill uses the initials of the normal characters (for example, SB = Strong Bad, not Stinkoman). The ships are also designed off of the normal non-20X6 characters, the most obvious example being Pan Pan's [[Pom Pom]]-shaped spaceship.
*Pan Pan opens and closes his mouth to make it appear that he speaks normal words, although he has been shown to communicate by bouncing, as seen in [[Under Construction]].

=== Glitches ===
[[Image:Dissapear.JPG|thumb|139px|Disappearing act]]
*Grab a slow character's pill (20X6 Coach Z or Pan Pan) and go to one of the far sides and quickly scroll to the other side and click on one of the games. Your character's laser will shoot out from where the ship was and the game you clicked on will still explode even if the laser isn't anywhere near it.
*If you click on a game-ship in the far left and scroll very fast to the right (or vice-versa) with a fast character's pill, your ship will disappear unless you navigate to the opposite direction you went.

=== Real-World References ===
* The levels are all inspired by classic video games.
**Level 1 (landscape) is modeled after ''[[Wikipedia:Xevious|Xevious]]'' (by [[Wikipedia:Namco|Namco]], 1982).
**Level 2 (sea/ships) is modeled after ''[[Wikipedia:1941: Counter Attack|1941: Counter Attack]]'' (by [[Wikipedia:Capcom|Capcom]], 1984).
**Level 3 (space) is probably a reference to the arcade games ''[[Wikipedia:Galaxian|Galaxian]]'' (by Namco, 1979) and ''[[Wikipedia:Galaga|Galaga]]'' (by Namco, 1981).
*The quote for Awexome Cross refers to the sidescrolling shooter series named ''[[Wikipedia:Rolling Thunder (arcade game)|Rolling Thunder]]'' (by [[Wikipedia:Namco|Namco]], 1986).
*The power-ups fall down in the same fashion as the game ''[[Wikipedia:Arkanoid|Arkanoid]]'', in which falling pill-like objects would change the appearance and ability of the ship below.
*The falling pills are also quite reminiscent of the old computer game Mac Brickout 3.4, in which falling, rotating pills with letters on them would grant your paddle special abilities.
*The "Ready!" text that you see when you enter the menu is from the [[Nintendo|NES]] ''[[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|Mega Man]]'' games (among other games such as [[Wikipedia:Bubble Bobble|Bubble Bobble]]), that is, it uses a similar font and placement.
*The continually rolling "1982 Videlectrix" bar at the bottom is a reference to a similar animation that appeared in most [[Atari 2600]] games made by [[Wikipedia:Activision|Activision]].
*The page title, "Shots do NOT hurt other players...yet." is from the classic arcade game ''[[Wikipedia:Gauntlet (arcade game)|Gauntlet]]''.
*The way the dialogue is displayed (along with the person speaking) resembles the [[Wikipedia:Star Fox series|''Star Fox'' games]].
*The scrollover noise is the jumping noise from the [[Wikipedia:Atari 5200|Atari 5200]] game [[Wikipedia:Montezuma's Revenge (video game)|''Montezuma's Revenge'']] (by [[Wikipedia:Parker Brothers|Parker Brothers]], 1984).

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User talk:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:56:59 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!

Soooooooooooo...

You can hang out and talk here or whatever.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

== Email! ==

Since you asked, the Brothers Chaps' email address is as follows: brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com Just keep in mind that they get, like, 2 jillion emails every 2 jillion seconds, so it could be a while before they respond, if they respond at all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== No Rejects? ==

What happenned to the Rejects page?-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
==calvin and hobbes?==
:It could just be me, but isn't the sentance "Phrases like "Code Blue" are cool too" from Calvin and Hobbes? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Yep it is from Calvin and Hobbes! I just got the complete set of books at a garage sale for $20!{{User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer/sig}}

== Talk ==

You people aren't doing much. I'm getting lonely on this page. Anyway, the people who constantly check everything or whatever could maybe tell me how to make this page get comments. -[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:I love you. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3.0#Message 1|Marry me.]] ;-> {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

What?! What are you trying to say? This is freaking me out! If you're going to keep putting comments like that on my user talk, I'm calling the authorities on you! Idiots.-[[User:Runstar Homer|A very ticked off Runstar Homer]]

Oh, Ijust noticed that emoticon, so maybe you're just trying to be funny. Whatever. Forget what I said earlier, but seriously, how can I get comments? {{unsigned|205.173.47.254|18:27, 15 September 2006}}

Well, this is just my opinion, but just put something on your Talk page that you think is interesting. Something will happen sooner or later.
--Keeping it real all the time, it's {{User:Cool Tapes.exe/sig}}!!!!

== u lik me i lik u ==

I like you and [[Homsar]] so you like me and I like you. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 20:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:Good timing
2020,
[[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]];
Sender of above message ;
sent this at 20:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC).

Hmmmmmmmm... I've been away on vacation, so I have gotten behind. Any friend of Homsar is a friend of mine![[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 17:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:1-Up

Runstar Homer — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:59 GMT

Runstar Homer:

{{featuredarticle}}
Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Name ==

When did TBC ever call him "1-up Extra Man"? Someone please provide a link to wherever they said this. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 17:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I've never seen TBC call him that, but "1up" is the entry immediately following "stinkoman" in [http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml weeklies.xml]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:43, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
::I've heard the fact before (a long time ago, in fact); that it is in weeklies.xml confirms it enough for my tastes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
:::Where'd we get extraman from, though? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The games menu calls him "H", not 1-up. --[[User:198.37.16.25|198.37.16.25]] 15:06, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yet it also calls Stinkoman "SB". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

::About the last two messages, in the game menu when you change your ship it will turn into the regular character not the 20X6 counterpart. For example the [[Pom Pom]] capsule is orange not black and white like his 20X6 counterpart [[Pan Pan]]. So the menu only shows a pic of 20X6 caracters the rest is regular character related.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 00:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

His name is 1-Up. Play the 20X6 game, and you'll see that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:10, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm stumbling upon this conversation months later, but I see that nobody's really answered the question. Why, on the article page, is he called "1-Up the extra man" instead of just "1-Up"? Every time somebody tries to fix it, it gets reverted. The only reference to this I can find is one instance in the Stinkomanual, and that seems more like a throwaway line than anything. Can someone shed some light on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I've heard that he was called "1-Up Extraman" (minus the "the") in an interview, and I heard this LONG prior to 1-Up's official name debut in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Okay, but where is this interview? Is there a transcript available to read? Even supposing it's true, does that make it canon? It seems like "1-Up the extra man" is like saying "Pan Pan the Giant Panda" or "Stinkoman the guy with blue hair". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Frankly, I'm not sure which interview it is. I heard it long before Stinkoman (the game) came out, but second-hand. Still, it fits what is in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Meh, it fits, sort of, but I still don't see how that isolated, [[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]-style reference elevates "the extra man" to be part of his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: You did not read my post, did you? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Anyway, [http://www.giantmag.com/help/framesetHandler.html?/issue_05/ft_homestar.php this] was the best that I could find, though I'm not sure it's the right interview (it refers to 1-Up by both names.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Didn't read your post? What? This coming from the person who doesn't read my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts&diff=93780&oldid=93772 STUFF votes]?   ;)
::::::: I said that because I was talking about an interview, and you were still talking about the Stinkomanual. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: When I said "it fits, sort of", I was referring to the interview. My wording was awkward, because I moved on to the Stinkomanual without a good transition, and that was confusing. Still, it's a silly question to ask somebody if they read your post. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: My apologies. I had trouble trying to figure out what you were saying - because, yeah, the wording was kinda awkward. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::: Seriously, I read your post (and that interview), but maybe I was unclear, so I'll spell it out: Mike saying "It’s either Extra Man or One Up" fits with the line in the Stinkomanual; that is, I can see how the former inspired the latter, but I what I don't get is how an obscure, non-canon interview combined with an intentionally poorly written, uncapitalized, throwaway reference in the manual makes 1-Up's name anything more than "1-Up". I say uncapitalized because if the manual read, "1up the Extra Man", I could accept it as part of the name, but I think it's just a description—if 1-Up weren't getting in the way on that level, Stinkoman wouldn't have to protect him. He's literally an extra man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Like I said, I don't think that was really the interview in question (I'm pretty sure the "1-Up Extraman" thing predates many things mentioned in that article - for instance, The Cheat Commandos.) It was just the best I could find. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: That's kinda my point. We don't really have enough to go on. If this were a fun fact, "the extra man" would be declined with severe prejudice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I still say I've heard it before, long predating the game and likely predating that interview. It would've been nice if TBC had just come out and admitted the character's name in the first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Maybe you think I don't believe that the interview is out there somewhere. That's not the case at all. I've looked through the page's history, and there were references to "Extraman" way before the debut of the Stinkogame. So I don't doubt for a second that TBC were considering giving 1-Up a different name. What I'm saying is, even if they ''were'' considering this, they ultimately chose "1-Up", and the isolated "extra man" bit in the manual is just a gag. Here's an analogy: at one point, they were going to make the KOT be Marzipan's father. Heck, you can even still find this on the [[HR:charactersold.html|official site]]. But they have clearly abandoned this idea, and it is not considered canon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I see where you're coming from. I suppose all we can do is wait and see if the "Extra Man" monicker is ever used again... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Why is this being deleted? Does the new Stinkoman game confirm that his name is 1up? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:45, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
: I think that must be the reason (watch the intro) - but shouldn't it be a redirect instead? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've fixed this. The article should have been moved, not deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== 20X6 Homestar? ==
Is it really nessecary to say that we used to call him 20X6 Homestar? It's okay to say when he was first officially named, but I don't think the old name is nessecary, as it isn't even related to anything officially H*R, just stuff from the wiki. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:32, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's not even necessary. Changed it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

Why is it when 1-up appears in a toon noone says his name? [[User:Porchi|Porchi]] 02.11.05

== 1-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP ==

I like 1-UP,but how come when I image search"1-up" alls I get are green mushrooms?-BOBLAND

You're the one who made that nonsensical thing on [[Talk:20X6 Coach Z]], right? Well, 1-Ups are "extra lives" in video games, duh. The Mario series makes them look like green mushrooms. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
:"1-Up" used to mean it was Player 1's turn to play. The full term was "Player 1 Up" and it usually appeared above the score. But as early as Mr. Do! and other games, free lives were given for certain achievements. Sometimes they were called 1-Ups to differentiate from bonus scores like 1000, etc. By the time of Super Mario Bros., they made it a moving green mushroom. This was the most famous (but NOT the first) 1-Up item, so of course it's associated with 1-Ups. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 00:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

== SORRY:( ==

Well,I'm sorry.I just don't own a gameboy.:(-BOBLAND
: Or a Ninendo, or a Super Nintendo, or a Nintendo 64, or a Gamecube, or a DS, or... ;) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: pretty much, you never played a game withj mario in it, seen a flash movie of Mario (he usually uses a green mushroom in them), or seen the t-sshirt with it on it , right?
:Or an Xbox, or a Playstation, or a... a... Crap. Those are all the rest I can name. Jay finished up most of them. I don't own any of those either. ''Friggin' waste of a joke that could be funny but'' [[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, Mario is a Nintendo character, and is about as likely to appear on those systems as Freddy Krueger is to guest-star on Sesame Street. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Or a PS2 or an Xbox 360 or a PSP or have never even heard of Mario until you came in here, you total nerd. - [[User:Eruption257|Eruption257]]

== Evolution ==

Does anyone think whether 1-up has evolved or not? His back-most leg was darkened in [[Under Construction]], but it changed back in [[time_capsule|time capsule]]. I'm not sure whether to say 1-up has evolved or not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
:HALDO anibodi? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Time capsule was way before under construction. Plus, the darker leg is probably a shadow. {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 02:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

== 1-Up isn't the guy? ==

Didn't 1-Up prove that he cold be the guy on level 5? I never was able to beat this level though. Any thoughts on this?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A curious Runstar Homer]]
:He beat Nebulon, sure, but he then got kidnapped right after. Plus he needed Stinkoman's help in the previous level. He's not quite 'The Guy' material just yet... Maybe when he's older. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::But he did prove that he's not just a kid anymore. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

True. He isn't just a kid, but the only reason he needed Stinkoman's help in Lava Zone is because he had Stinkoman's power crunch. AND because he was stupid enough to take that shortcut. But ''I'' think he's possible "Guy" material. Maybe Stinkoman just wants all the glory for himself.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:That sounds reasonable. Stinkoman ''is'' still an alternate version of Strong Bad, after all. Glory-hogging might fit the personality. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
You can't not be just a kid ''and'' not be the guy. Or can you? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Of course you can. Unless the word man is not a word, apparently, 1-Up is a man, but not "The Guy" yet.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar "not in a fevery haze!" Homer]]

:Of course, in level 4, 1-up was stupid enough to walk right into lava flows and enemies. Face it. 1-up is an idiot.-[[User:StinkOmega|StinkOmega]]

Welllllllllllllll... he'd be the guy if he had a better freakin' attack than simply kicking. Mabye something long range like Stinkoman. His level is FRUSTRATING!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
== 1-Up and Pronunciation ==

I've noticed this little peculiarity: Homestar Runner's name is pronounced in his accent "Homestaw Wuh-nohw," and I noticed that when pronouncing 1-Up's name in this voice, it came to be "Wuhn-uhp." This is peculiar because of the ''Wuh-nohw'' and ''Wuhn-uhp'' in the pronunciation in Homestar's accent.

Give that, is it possible that 1-Up's name may have been a grammatical corruption of Runner, and not just the reference to Nintendo Mario games? {{User:DannyDaWriter/sig}}

:Ooh, excellent theory. I'd love to hear what [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] have to say about this. If only they could answer our millions of other [[HRWiki:Questions|questions]] too. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

== 1-up inspired by Pandamar? ==
http://www.famicomworld.com/Pirated/Power_Joy_008_PIR.htm

I have one of those exact carts but Pandamar doesn't work. But you have to admit, the resemblence is eerily similar.

:Huh? Looks more like Pan-Pan. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Often squished by Pan Pan? ==

So, I can remember this happening once: in [[japanese cartoon]]. Am I forgetting more instances that would make it correct to say he's "often" squished by Pan Pan? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's not correct. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
::It also happens in [[Under Construction]]. Which is pretty much all of their co-starring appearances. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Accomplishment? ==

How is finding Homestar's time box a "notable accomplishment"? It's just a gross old wig in a box. Nothing special about it.-[[User:StinkOmega|StinkOmega]]

User talk:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

Runstar Homer — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:26:09 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Nice project: I don't want to add anything you don't like, but here is my thoughts:
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!" - One scorpion goes into his mouth and I guess he likes to eat them.
*"I'm the ghost of Christmas past." - He is dressed as '''Ghost''' Dog, and mixing with another holiday.
*"And also with you." - He is insulted and tells Homestar that ''he'' doesn't get a ding in reply.
*"I do what I'm told..." - as you wrote: Strong Bad had just '''told''' him to get outta his house.
I don't have much time today to go over the transcripts you didn't add, so this is it for now. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== I've brought my best foot flowered ==
I think "I've brought my best foot flowered" could make sense if he meant to say "I'm putting my best foot ''forward''", i.e., he's trying to make a good impression with his character video. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:That's possible. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
:Makes lots of sense to me. [[User:Scalawag|Scalawag]] 21:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

== Something I'm missing? ==

This article seems unnecessary, very POV, and over-analytical, even for us. I wouldn't be sad to see it go, but, for the time being, I'm not putting a tbd notice on it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:It was created to directly refute information contained both here and at Wikipedia. It furthers the project because it systematically analyzes a central trait of a central character. It's in the main namespace because it should belong to everyone (yes, works in progress on user subpages can technically be edited by anyone, but it's just not the same); that way, it can be improved upon and maintained by the whole community. It only seems POV because it seeks to draw conclusions, but the process by which it reaches those conclusions attempts to be objective. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::We have an NPOV policy now? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 21:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't know whether it's ever been written as such on any policy pages, but it seems like a knowledge base should be as unbiased as possible. Occasionally "NPOV" can be seen in edit summaries as reasons for changing or removing something. As for the article, I think certain phrases could be reworded to be more straightforward and less of an opinion. I'll work on that a little now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:This article can go to really speculative levels, with all those interpatations. How do we know that The Brothers Chaps meant all that? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::I disagree. I'm not saying there's no speculation; I'm just saying that it's based on observation and reason. We allow a certain amount of speculation in fun facts and articles as long as it's relevant and reasonable and if the article would suffer if we left it out. This research page does have a bit more latitude, but that's understandable given its scope. Although it does give an interpretation at the bottom (which, like everything else, can be edited according to consensus), by and large it just presents the facts. No one claims to be able to read TBC's minds, but as long as we don't invent wild, irrelevant theories, then we're good. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::My point in doing this analysis was, as It's dot com mentioned, to objectively observe what Homsar is saying and relate it to the scene in which he said it. In many cases, you can clearly see the connection between his statement and what's going on, and in the cases where that connection ISN'T clear (or there doesn't appear to be one at all), interpretation is limited mainly to "There doesn't appear to be a connection, but this sentence is syntactically valid/correct on its own", etc. I removed as much POV stuff from the article as I could when I moved it to the main namespace. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

: I'm taking another look at it, and... I want to say that maybe I feel stronger than before that this page is ridiculous. Half of Homsar's sentences have descriptions that say "This could make sense," frequently without describing how or by reaching for related words and twisting it a bit. Well, yeah... they could. So? They also very easily could be random nonsense. Por ejample:
::''"Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."''
::''The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.''
:That this says that he could make some sense makes no sense, at least to me. Could you at least explain it a little? Is it because he's "thrilled" to be part of the Happy T stuff? Because he says three words that start with the letter "T"? Perhaps it's not a word salad because it would make sense in a totally different context, but in this context, it's meaningless as far as I can easily see. This page is trying to make insanity seem sane, to feign order in chaos, and to hear dialogue in ramblings. I don't believe it has any place in this Wiki. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
::Even if this ''is'' overanalytical, we can also argue that the entire wiki is pointless because it's all to analyze an internet cartoon. I bet TBC didn't even imagine that it would go this far. Not to say that I'm against this site, I find it endlessly amusing. —'''xo''' [[User:Scalawag|Scalawag]]

== It's time for tasteball ==

Homestar responds as though he's just informing them that they have to go do something right then. Seems pretty non-random to me. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 21:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:Excellent point. I'm going to update the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::It seems more to me that it's general Homsar's randomness, but Homestar's too obtuse to notice and thinks Homsar's serious... which would be in character for both of them... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== Butterfly effect ==

What I'm about to say could easily be said on a lot of pages (and I don't intend it to be a forum-style topic), but it seems particularly appropriate here, given the amount of time and energy that have gone into the character of Homsar, both on TBC's part to create him, make him entertaining, and make merchandise about him, and on our part to enjoy it all and analyze obscure patterns in minute detail. What if Vinnie had been a better proof-reader? The world would be a vastly different place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
:Wow... Really makes you think, eh? I never thought I'd be glad for misspellings... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::True, though if he didn't come about, Homestar would probably just be alot weirder to compensate, or something. I'm sure it would probably still be a pretty similar site. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It would be weird. I mean, there would be no [[interview]], [[Strong Sad]] would be even more lonesome, and there would be no regular use for that "b-b-b-b-b-b-b" sound that Homsar makes while walking. I'm sure someone would have slipped up eventually, inadvertantly creating Hoesta or Ometar or something. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I would doubt that Vinnie's was the only email that misspelled Homestar's name; TBC probably picked his from a handful of emails containing mispellings, like "Homstar", "Hometar", etc. (this is somewhat speculative, though) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::I still think his foil ought to be Stong Bad

== Strong Sad's Blog And An Email ==

What about in Strong Sad's Blog where Strong Sad writes that one day when he was talking to Homsar, Homsar kept saying, "When can we start the Jeffersons?" In the blog it's also mentioned that at a party Homsar told Strong Sad to hug a tree. While no quotes, it would be interesting to point out in summary that Homsar's language skills seem to let him organize a party. And finally, Strong Sad in [[2 emails]] tells Strong Bad that Homsar called and said he was a million ladies tall. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 07:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==

I propose we have another look at this article for the sake of improving it. Last time people were regularly discussing it, there were some serious concerns as to its merit. I find this article to be very useful, but like some who have raised objections above, I am concerned about some sections of it. Quite simply, I think sometimes this article tries too hard to make sense of Homsar's sentences. As an example, this explanation of the phrase "I'm a million ladies tall":
<blockquote>
Not really a word salad as Homsar's statement could be interpreted as, "I'm as tall as any of those ladies."
</blockquote>
seems to me to be sretching it to the breaking point. I realise that part of this is because this study was originally made in order to refute the notion that Homsar speaks in word salads, but now that this point has been effectively made, I think the article needs to be reworked to a more neutral perspective. I intend to start work on this soon, and would value any help and input anyone would like to give. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
:OK, finally trying to do this. So, I made that last edit in the hopes of preserving the original analysis while changing the tone a bit so it doesn't sound as much like it's fishing for sense in Homsar's statements but rather acknowledges both what sense there is and that it still doesn't really fit the context. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

==I'll pay you tuesday==
This is a rephrasing of a quote from J. Wellington Wimpy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Wellington_Wimpy)
"I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"
So this puts Homsars quote into even more context.
--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 12:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:We've always noted this quote as a Real World Reference, so I don't unstand the point that you are making. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:: <s>That it's not mentioned on THIS page. The page implies that the comment was only slightly in context.</s> Oops, big mistake. Sorry Guys. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 13:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

==Dinner Party==

Couldn't we also say that it's possible Strong Bad tricked our strange friend, by saying there was a dinner party, but it was just a "cliffhanger?" [[User: Dusk|Dusk]]
:No, that would be conjecture since noting backs that up. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 00:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

==Thripshaw's Disease?==
Homsar's speech patterns seem to me to be inspired by a fictional disease: Thripshaw's Disease, from a Monty Python sketch. "Well as I say, you'd just be talking and out'll pudenda the wrong word and ashtray's your uncle. So I'm really strawberry about it." It's not identical, but it did seem very similar to me. -- [[User:Cronocke|Cronocke]] 10:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Accurate? ==
Is this article actually accurate? Some of these patterns are just what users believe in their opinion, and are not really facts, which means users might disagree with some of the descriptions in this, and may break out into an edit war. Is there any evidence on these
speech patterns? --{{User:AAA!/sig}} 10:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

==Homsar's Main Page ==
You don't have to include this, but it is an expansion on why Homsar may have chosen to say what he said on each button. (Note: some are pretty obvious)

Toons: "ToOoOoOons!" (This is just a Homsar-esque exageration of the actual word)

Games: "James!" (Words beging with a hard "G" have ocasionally been pronounced with a soft "G", which sounds like a "J" on H*R. This is just contiuing that joke as "Games" with a soft "G" would sound like "James")

Characters: "Kelsey Grammer!" (No idea about this one)

Downloads: "Thank youuuuu." (He could be thanking you for downloading from H*R.)

Store: "Legitimate business." (Possibly stating that the store's "business" is "legitimate")

Email: "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!" (This is just Homsar, being Homsar. He is quite well known for suddenly going "Aaahaaa" so it makes sense he said it on his main page)

[[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 14:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

:"Legitimate business" is one case where it's really difficult to tell exactly what he said. I keep hearing "Legitimate Beer-beer" or something similar to that, and apparently someone else hears "Legimitate Menu". Anyone got anything for sure on this one? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

There was a time when I too thought he said "Legitimate Beer-beer" and admitidly Strong Sad talking over the last sylible didn't help. However I rechecked this very clearfuly. It is deffinetly "Legitimare Business". [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I THINK that it's starnge nobody noticed that the boat was going backwards, adn it was on dry land. He might of said thank you as a reference to the sign that said wear a bikini!.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

==These Easter Pants Are Way Too Tight==

When Homsar's most recent line (from DNA Evidence) was added, I think the explanation was really grasping at straws. Furthermore, the context (Strong Sad reveals secret by accident - Homsar speaks - suspenseful music) seems to suggest, at least to me, that Homsar "said" something that made sense to Strong Sad; perhaps he revealed that he wouldn't keep the secret in Homsaric. It wouldn't be the first time that Homsar said something that is nonsense to the audience but appears to have a clear meaning to the other characters. [[User:Almsfothepudgy|Almsfothepudgy]] 10:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

:I dunno, sounds like a threat to me... seems like Homsar thinks being a secret character is too restricting. That makes the most sense from what he said. Perhaps he will use his knowledge as a leverage against Strong Sad to gain main character status. Of course, this is a cartoon where nothing much has happened for... well 11 years now, other than artwork improvement. But its fun to pretend. --[[User:Sines|Sines]] 15:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

::That's the problem. It's ''so'' fun to pretend that the other users have built up a mountain of pure speculation over this small phrase. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

: To Almsfothepudgy: Wouldn't be the first time this page gasped at straws. 9_9 --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I think he means by "Easter Pants" Easter Eggs...as in secrets and "way to tight" as in unbearible, so "Keeping all these Secrets is Unbearable".{{User:Slipstream/sig}}

I really feel that this meant Homsar completely wasn't listening the entire time, and Strong Sad was giving him too much credit. IE: Homsar was too busy being bothered by imaginary "Easter Pants". Know what I mean? -- [[User:208.60.233.12|208.60.233.12]] 04:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Cheese ==

For the [[Who Said What Now?]], couldn't it be a reference to 50 Cent? -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 19:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

== um ==

couldn't i put my best foot flowered be a mix up of i put my best foot forward? [[User:Foogs|Plain ol' Foogs ya'll biscutheads]] 00:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, and it's noted in the article. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Kind of a stretch? ==
Some of these explanations are a bit of a stretch, aren't they? for example:
*"Sing a song of Pennzoil" Explanation: Possibly a Product Endorsement. Why would someone like Homsar do product endorsements?
*"Caramel corn for president, please." Explanation: Kernel/Colonel Corn joke. Why would someone like Homsar A: ever hear that joke, B: remember it long enough to tell it again, C: use it as praise for Strong Sad, and D: even understand the mechanics of a joke?
*"I'm a million ladies tall." Explanation: Either he's saying he's as tall as any of those ladies, or he has a million ladies with him. A big stretch, since homsar is not as tall as any of those ladies (He barely tops 3 feet tall) and would DEFINITELY not have a million ladies with him. He probably is relating the discussed topic (ladies) into his word salad.
The explanation for his character video also focuses on the "Best foot flowered" line and downplays the other completely nonsensical sentences, especially the "gravy train" line.

Other supporting evidence of word salads: Email [[suntan]]: his testimonial for the Ab-Abber 2000: He uses it to draw a calculator with the word SALAd on it.
Now, while some of his sentences aren't word salads, such as his first ever line and the "I do what I'm told" line, many of them are word salads. [[User:Jedibob5|Jedibob5]] 21:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:16:03 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Talk:Z Sabre

Runstar Homer — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:44:01 GMT

Runstar Homer: Nope

{{talk}}

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:43, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

20X6 Coach Z does NOT talk by moving his eyebrow up and down. I suppose that, if this is true, then the KoT speaks by moving his moustache and The Cheat talks by moving his arms and his body. Honestly. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

I think he would be a Sumo wrestler with this shape of body. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}

isnt it possible that he is in a cool look'in throne-type chair??? or maybe one o them sinister cloaks?
:Isn't it possible that it isn't 20X6 Coach Z at all? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Yes, it is possible, but it is also unknown. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}}

It IS unknown, but it's also pretty obvious that the pill is made with a Z on it and he looks a lot like Coach Z, and there's a concensus (I think) that he's Coach Z.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
== Shadow Coach Z? ==

Welllllllllllllll... maybe Coach Z is overweight in his 20x6 form. All we see for sure is his head anyway. However... maybe that's his evil twin or something, and they are both overweight. Any thoughts?-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:Eh, it probably ''is'' a silhouette. That's what I think TBC would do. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:28, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Another thing. He looks to me like he has a bit of an evil expression on his face that I noticed tonight (however, I am in a kind of fevery haze right now). So my "Evil Twin" comment is perhaps useless, so if you would like, I'm putting it as fair game for deletion or changing.-[[User:Runstar Homer|A fevery-type Runstar Homer (at the moment)]]

If you look at the head, I don't see who it could be but Coach Z. As for the rest of the sillhouette... does anybody else think it looks like he's wearing football pads or something? Plus the traditional bad-guy cape (of majesty), of course.
-Zero.exe

As far as I'm concerned, the "Shadowy Figure" is most likely 20X6 Coach Z standing in front of 20X6 Strong Mad, based on the square body.

Wait a second. Ther is no 20X6 Strong Mad. Moreover, if there was, wouldn't he look way different? Oh well, it's very unlikely, but still is about, in my opinion, 1% possible.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 18:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

:It's Coach Z. He's wearing a cape and those shoulder pads that jut out. -.- God damn.

Wait, of COURSE he's wearing a cape. The shadowy part in the back is fluttering. Moreover, if he was sitting in a cool-lookin' throne, the top would probably go over his head, much like the throne SB made with toilet paper. So I'm right! ha ha!(Maybe)-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hold on! Maybe he Is standing in front of Strong Mad! Strong Mad could be evil in 20X6, so he might be Coach Z's minion or something.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

==Hip Hop Dance appearance==
[[Image:8-bit Coach Z.PNG|right]]
In the "Hip Hop Dance" video (at the end of [[New Boots]] cartoon) there is a video game Coach Z that runs a lot like mega man. Could this be the 20X6 version of the coach? [[User:Olliegrind|Olliegrind]] 20:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:I added in a cropped screenshot from the vid. Any thoughts? [[User:Olliegrind|Olliegrind]] 12:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

If it was 20X6 Coach Z, it's eyes would look different, obviously, more expressive. Plus he would have eyebrows, wouldn't he?[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Z Sabre

Runstar Homer — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:41:10 GMT

Runstar Homer: Nope

{{talk}}

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:43, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

20X6 Coach Z does NOT talk by moving his eyebrow up and down. I suppose that, if this is true, then the KoT speaks by moving his moustache and The Cheat talks by moving his arms and his body. Honestly. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

I think he would be a Sumo wrestler with this shape of body. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}

isnt it possible that he is in a cool look'in throne-type chair??? or maybe one o them sinister cloaks?
:Isn't it possible that it isn't 20X6 Coach Z at all? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Yes, it is possible, but it is also unknown. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}}

It IS unknown, but it's also pretty obvious that the pill is made with a Z on it and he looks a lot like Coach Z, and there's a concensus (I think) that he's Coach Z.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
== Shadow Coach Z? ==

Welllllllllllllll... maybe Coach Z is overweight in his 20x6 form. All we see for sure is his head anyway. However... maybe that's his evil twin or something, and they are both overweight. Any thoughts?-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:Eh, it probably ''is'' a silhouette. That's what I think TBC would do. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:28, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Another thing. He looks to me like he has a bit of an evil expression on his face that I noticed tonight (however, I am in a kind of fevery haze right now). So my "Evil Twin" comment is perhaps useless, so if you would like, I'm putting it as fair game for deletion or changing.-[[User:Runstar Homer|A fevery-type Runstar Homer (at the moment)]]

If you look at the head, I don't see who it could be but Coach Z. As for the rest of the sillhouette... does anybody else think it looks like he's wearing football pads or something? Plus the traditional bad-guy cape (of majesty), of course.
-Zero.exe

As far as I'm concerned, the "Shadowy Figure" is most likely 20X6 Coach Z standing in front of 20X6 Strong Mad, based on the square body.

Wait a second. Ther is no 20X6 Strong Mad. Moreover, if there was, wouldn't he look way different? Oh well, it's very unlikely, but still is about, in my opinion, 1% possible.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 18:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

:It's Coach Z. He's wearing a cape and those shoulder pads that jut out. -.- God damn.

Wait, of COURSE he's wearing a cape. The shadowy part in the back is fluttering. Moreover, if he was sitting in a cool-lookin' throne, the top would probably go over his head, much like the throne SB made with toilet paper. So I'm right! ha ha!(Maybe)-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

==Hip Hop Dance appearance==
[[Image:8-bit Coach Z.PNG|right]]
In the "Hip Hop Dance" video (at the end of [[New Boots]] cartoon) there is a video game Coach Z that runs a lot like mega man. Could this be the 20X6 version of the coach? [[User:Olliegrind|Olliegrind]] 20:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:I added in a cropped screenshot from the vid. Any thoughts? [[User:Olliegrind|Olliegrind]] 12:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

If it was 20X6 Coach Z, it's eyes would look different, obviously, more expressive. Plus he would have eyebrows, wouldn't he?[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Poopsmith

Runstar Homer — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:34:40 GMT

Runstar Homer: /**/Main Page

{{featuredarticle}}
== Integral Article ==

What is his real name? Because "The Poopsmith" would be just a nick name since he shovels poop everywhere. And so far that i know, his real name has not yet been revealed.

:The Poopsmith is his real name. No ifs, ands, or buts. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:29, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I changed the article to read that it's unclear whether "The Poopsmith" is his name. If it were an actual name, it would be used with an [[Integral Article]], like The Cheat. To my knowledge, there is only one instance of that, the [[King of Town Email]], and I don't even consider it 100% solid. There are lots of instances where he was called "a Poopsmith", etc. If you feel strongly that it is his name, let's hear some arguments. And I'll head off any claims of the "The" being capitalized because it's both inconsistent and meaningless. (See [[Wikipedia:Bruce Springsteen|Bruce "The Boss" Springsteen]].) --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:57, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, ever since [[secret identity]], The Poopsmith has been referred to with the Integral Article. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:51, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::There are other instances before this, also: in [[the show]] and [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], Homestar addresses him to his face as "The Poopsmith". But it's never been as consistent as The Cheat, by any means, since he was also addressed as "Poopsmith" in this era. So I think the best we can say is that the Integral Article has for long been used with him but without any real consistency. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::You've got a point; I didn't notice those instances before. However, I think it can be argued that both of them are not actually vocative case, but simply... explanatory or interjectory. Notice that in Funjob, Homestar later says simply "Poopsmith" when it is definitely vocative. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Remember, too, there are degrees of articular integrity. Poopy has never been referred to as "a The Poopsmith", ala a The Cheat, but that's acute articular integrity. A more midgrade articular integrity is at play here, with the article recurring but not appearing out of typical placement, and it's nonexistant at times where a The Cheat would have expected it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:I love your phraseology. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

== Stickly Man ==

It's been confirmed that Stickly Man is in no way related to the Poopsmith. (See [[Stickly Man]] discussion page.) So why does it keep getting undone when I remove that bit from this page? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
:We have no way of knowing if that is true or not, it's not even signed. I do not think we can believe that statement. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:13, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::I agree. This could be some guy who doesn't like all the talk about it and is just making up crap![[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== recent toon ==

whats the poopsmith's most recent cartoon, because he hasn't be seen in the recent toons?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:21, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

*The Poopsmith was last seen in [[TrogdorCon '97]]. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 08:14, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:17, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== legs ==

What is with the poopsmiths legs? did the brother chaps made him quickly or intentionally?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

i don't understand. please elaborate. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Poopsmith's Jorb ==

I think I may have found out what The Poopsmith's job actually is or, at the very least, found a job that is amazingly similar to what he does.

During the Middle Ages, there were workers whos job it was to shovel crap out of latrine pits and out of the streets (people threw their crap out the window in those days, a hazard for innocent bystanders!). These workers were called gong farmers.

Now let's see... The Poopsmith shovels crap ''and'' he works in a castle. Am I the only guy who sees a connection here?

Now it could be a coincidence, considering that The Poopsmith was originally introduced as a joke; "They questioned the blacksmith. They questioned the Poopsmith..." but I think that whatever the case, it's worth mentioning. -[[User: Private Martin of the Homestarmy]]

I get what you mean, Private Martin of the Homestarmy. The Poopsmith works in The KOT's castle shoveling ''You-know-what'' and it's a castle. But it was kind of random.No offense.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 00:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== No voice ==

I think i know why The Poopsmith doesn't talk. Matt didn't want to do him, 'cause he can't come up with a voice. Is this good enough? [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 00:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:It's only speculation, and therefore not material for the article. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

I remember seeing a main page somewhere with the Poopsmith. However, on the upper right corner it said MUTE. Should this be added to speech, cause his mouth clearly opens when you mouse over the buttons.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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#*Um, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and insist that "From next door ''I'm watching you''" be edited out of this image. We already creep them out enough just by having all this info in the wiki, and there's no need to push it any further if we can help it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
#[http://www.gizburgduck.com/mikebday.png I'm in, bro.] --{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
#[http://www.freewebs.com/samfisher1022/Happy%20B%2C%20Mike%21.PNG Here's Sammy.] {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
#[http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7448/lapperue8.png] Same signature as last time. Designed for ul or lr corners. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
#[http://pics.livejournal.com/wbwolf/pic/0001b8e7 Birthday image] It's a number one jam! {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 21:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
#Hey Mike! Even though you don't do voices, your sounds are awesome! Especially the original intro sounds. Rock on!-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 21:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
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Talk:Marzi-Mei

Runstar Homer — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:31:59 GMT

Runstar Homer:

==Stop That!==
Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:40, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Prove it (again) ==

Are we sure this 20x6 marzipan.

:It's a woman in a purple dress with a long blonde ponytail and the exact same decorations as Marzipan on the bottom of her skirt. What kind of proof are you looking for? Because I don't think TBC has said. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 08:04, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Plus, when do they ever pull in another character without an introduction?

And what other girls are there? {{User:Fizz123/sig}}

Isn't it possible that 20X6 has an original character or two? I mean, "who" is/are Trogdor or Marshe supposed ot be? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
*Trogdor's 20X6 counterpart is called [[Trogador]]. - [[User:Sikon|Sikon]] 05:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

ooh! there IS another girl in Homestar Runner! One of those zombie kids from the marshmellow commercials is a girl I think! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:18, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

==Peace or Victory?==
Apparently, it's neither! I found this explanation [http://carleton.ottawa-anime.org/animefaq.html here].
<blockquote>
You'll often see anime characters flashing the "peace" or "V for victory" sign with their first two fingers -but that's really not what they're doing. That gesture is one of accomplishment, more "I made it!" or "I did it!" than "victory." Often this gesture is used when posing for photographs.
</blockquote>
--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:22, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Yup, I looked it up and you're right. However, as noted in this article, Marzipan is imitating Chun Li after she defeats an enemy -- usually referred to as the "victory pose." So I think that "victory sign" is probably more accurate than "peace sign" in this case. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:33, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I agrees with ya. I only posted this to enlighten those of us who are, like me, anime-challenged. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:12, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Aren't "I did it" and "victory" pretty much the same thing? {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:24, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

== Ticked Off ==

My friend said that there was no 20x6 Marizipan, and he's almost never wrong, so he can't bear to have his fact disproved. That IS the 20x6 Marzipan, but he won't listen to me. I'm so ticked off! Can anybody help me?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A very ticked off Runstar Homer]]
:While everyone here agrees that this character is 20X6 Marzipan, if he's convinced she's not, then the only way to prove him wrong would be to wait for a Stinkoman 'toon that includes her and, preferrably, names her or states her relationship to 1-Up. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:36, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:You might try emailing the Brothers Chaps. I can't promise a return reply, but if they do, that's probably the best proof in the world. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Have you showed him the wiki page? He might believe you if there's consensus amongst the Homestar fanbase over whether such a character is Marzipan. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:38, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Out of curiosity, are you allowed to say "****ed" on the Wiki? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 20:39, 27 September 2005 (BST)

:::What, P.O.'d? Meh, probably not. Runstar, please don't say that. (Although we completely understand your frustration.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:59, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say "****ed" on this wiki. I didn't know, but I guess that I should have known already. I did show him the wiki, but I'll try your ideas too. Thanks!-[[User:Runstar Homer|A slightly less ticked off Runstar Homer]]

Hi. I'm back! I realized that I don't know TBC E-mail adress. Could you put on my talk or something?-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:[mailto:brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com]

== why an individual page? ==
look, i don't know why we are putting this on it's own page. we already have a 20x6 page, so this is really useless. i'm gonna put this up for deletion. even if we don't, i think that it is still a useless character.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]]
:This page is not useless, and it is not getting deleted. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Isn't this weird... ==

Is she the only variation of a major character that looks completely human? - [[User:Sikon|Sikon]] 15:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Welllllll... She looks rather like the early sketchbook forms of Marzipan that were said to be WAY to human-like, so I guess she IS the most human-like person in any time period of free country USA. Any thoughts?-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
== Sailor Moon ==

I don't mean to destrupt the flow of the site but, I have already removed this, but it has been put back in!

She DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SAILOR MOON AT ALL!!! An this is from a dedicated fan of the anime. She looks like a generic anime girl (Presumably she may have been based on SOMONE but NOT Sailor Moon!!) I honestly don't know what you mean!!

The only similarity I see is blond hair, that's all (Oh and she's a girl) Her hair is a COMPLETLY different fasion she doesn't even have the "Meat Head" look.

Don't be too hard on me because I love this site and am a regular viewer to it, but She is NOT a copy of Sailor Moon their appearnce is completly diffent!!!!! {{unsigned|82.3.32.73|15:25 August 15, 2006}}
:Speaking as one who knows a bit about Sailor Moon himself, it is my opinion that she IS a ref to Sailor Moon. She could be a reference to a generic magical girl, but Sailor Moon is the most likely. What with the pleated skirt, the leotard-like uniform, the impossibly long blonde hair, and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Well I've been a fan for most of my life and I don't see her in appearance. And Sailor Moon doesn't Have "INposibly long hair" it's very moderate, I've seen girls get there hair like that.
:In pigtail form, it's down to about her knees. That's pretty long in my book. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Hey, if you want to see long hair, check out chobits (sorry, but I don't know any links.)-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

::For your comparison pleasures: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:marzipan20X6.png 20X6 Marzipan] [http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Harbor/9738/sailormoon.gif the pretty soldier of love and justice]. I am fond of Sailor Moon and I think they don't look too similar. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== Yatta animation ==

Is there anything about the flash cartoon "Yatta" related to the phrase? --[[User:70.16.165.15|70.16.165.15]] 20:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:Only that they both likely derive from the original Japanese phrase. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Stinkoman

Runstar Homer — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:25:37 GMT

Runstar Homer:

[[Image:stinkoman.PNG|thumb|220px|Stinkoman in a "cool pose"]]

{{aboutcharacter}} {{forgame|Stinkoman 20X6}}

[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|left|Looking for challenge]]
'''Stinkoman''' (also spelled '''Stinko Man''') is [[Strong Bad]]'s [[20X6]] counterpart. He is an amalgam of [[Wikipedia:Anime|anime]] clichés, including blue hair, big eyes, a blocky sort of body, a mouth that doesn't move along with his speech, and an obsession with [[challenge]]s and fighting. He was introduced on January 6, 2003 in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[japanese cartoon]], which makes his birthday fall exactly one week before [[dragon|Trogdor]]'s. Even before the introduction of the Stinkoman character, his name was mentioned in [[island]] when [[Homestar Runner]] calls Strong Bad "Stinkoman". Stinkoman also stars in the game [[Stinkoman 20X6]], which [[The Brothers Chaps]] introduced in the [[NYU_Talk_-_1_Mar_2005|NYU Talk]] and later released on [[homestarrunner.com]].

Stinko Man's theme song, which accompanied most of his early appearances and featured neo-Japanese lyrics (actually the words "Challenge" and "Fighting" repeated as if spoken by a Japanese person) was actually a background tune from a NES racing game [[wikipedia:Rad Racer|Rad Racer]].

Stinkoman employs technology to arrange, engage in, and practice for his challenges. He has a [[cell phone]] which he uses to challenge [[Marzipan]] in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]], and when the distance to his foes is too far, he whistles for the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters#Stinkowing|Stinkowing]] for transportation. According to [[alternate universe]], Stinkoman uses his friend [[Vector Strong Bad]] as his "training simulator", but when he's not preparing for upcoming challenges, he relaxes by playing the [[Nintendo|Nintendo Entertainment System]] at [[Stinkoman Headquarters]]. Stinkoman's favorite foods appear to be chicken soup, [[bread]], power crunches, pudding, and [[prawns]], as seen in Stinkoman 20X6.

[[Image:Mega Man & Stinkoman.PNG|thumb|220px|Stinkoman vs. Mega Man]]
Various facets of Stinkoman's persona refer specifically to characters in real-world popular culture. In particular, Stinkoman is very similar in build to the NES incarnation of [[Wikipedia:Mega Man (character)|Mega Man]], who also had blue hair at one point. In fact, Stinkoman's sprite in ''Stinkoman 20X6'' is a modified version of the original Mega Man sprite.

Stinkoman's lines, "Are you asking for a challenge?!" and "No way, you're just a kid! Maybe when you're older" are very similar in both content and intonation to messages spoken by the ''[[Wikipedia:Mega Man 8|Mega Man 8]]'' boss Tengu Man: "Are you worthy of my challenge?" and "It's just a kid, don't make me laugh!" Tengu Man has also used the phrase "Kid, you're almost not worth the effort", which could be a reference to levle 4 (Fistcuff!). The line "No way, you're just a kid! Maybe when you're older!" is also used several times (depending on translation) in the anime movie ''[[Wikipedia:Akira (film)|Akira]]''. The 20X6 and ''Akira'' connection appears again in an Easter egg in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
[[Image:StinkomanPlussign.png|thumb|right|150px|"plus sign - endowed grill"]]

When Stinkoman grits his teeth, [[Wikipedia:Plus and minus signs|plus signs (+)]] make up the cracks between them. The character [[Wikipedia:Donkey Kong|Donkey Kong]] in the original [[Wikipedia:Donkey Kong (video game)|''Donkey Kong'' arcade game]] was also depicted with plus signs to indicate the separate teeth in his mouth. Finally, Stinkoman has worn the [[Halloween Costumes|costume]] of another Japanese cartoon character, [[Wikipedia:Speed Racer|Speed Racer]], as seen in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].

Stinkoman seems to have a strange habit of eating dirt, such as when he finds the time capsule in the sbemail, [[time capsule]], and in [[under construction]], where he tastes what he thinks is dirt even though it turns out to be [[pudding]].

{{Spoken HRWiki|Stinkoman.ogg|1 January 2007|oldid=399966}}
*'''Domicile:''' [[Stinkoman Headquarters]]
*'''Debut:''' Email [[japanese cartoon]]
*[[:Category:Stinkoman Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

{{clear}}
== Character Evolution ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Info !! Created !! Appearances !! What's Changed?
|-
| [[Image:stinkoman evolution old.PNG|150px]] || First design of [[Stinkoman]] || 2003 || [[japanese cartoon]]; [[Main Page 17]] || N/A
|-
| [[Image:stinkoman_evolution_current.PNG|150px]] || Second Stinkoman || 2003 || Toons from [[20X6 vs. 1936]]; various [[Strong Bad Emails]] starting with [[time capsule]]; [[Stinkoman 20X6]] || Pants lighter colored and shaded; arms appear slightly longer, thinner and set higher up
|}

==Quotes of the Week==

{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"We deserve a break! Everyone grab a spoon and take a break with pudding."|[[Under Construction]] outtake|Mirror:stinko_break.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Hey, [[Sticklyman]], whaaaaat are you doing?"|[[Under Construction]]|Mirror:stinko whatRUdoing.zip}}
|}
[[Category:Character Evolution]] [[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Talk:Z Sabre

Runstar Homer — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:17:01 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Talk:Pom Pom

Runstar Homer — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:53:04 GMT

Runstar Homer: /**/Organ Donors rock

{{featuredarticle}}
== Still disambiguous? ==
Hmm. Does the case fix get rid of this problem? [[Pom Pom]] is the character, [[pom pom]] is the email, right? Or is that way to confusing? Also, links to the page "Pom Pom" aren't directed here anymore. We need to fix this. Somehow. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:03, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:Case seems to be adequate enough to disambiguify something to the engine, but I don't think it's good enough for readers. Case-sensitivity would/will confuse a lot of people. I think we should stick with what we've got. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:13, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

::Oh right, I think it was the move that I was looking for. That works... But still, ideally, nothing should link here. They should all link to either [[Pom Pom (character)]] or [[pom pom (email)]]. Would it be easier to have the pages be "Pom Pom" and "pom pom"? Wait, that's still confusing. I guess... Which type of confusion do we want then? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:19, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:::I dunno. This case stuff is going to confuse some people, but I don't think it's unnecessarily complicated. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}}

::::Okay, I'm not sure anyone will ever link to "pom pom (character)", so I deleted that. Nothing linked to it, and it just redirected to "Pom Pom (character)" I think we might be out thinking ourselves. What's going to happen when someone copies a page here? What will the links say? "PomPom" or ""StrongBadEmail/pom pom", right? So they are going to have to be changed either way... Should we change them to "Pom Pom (character)" and "pom pom (email)" or simply "Pom Pom" and "pom pom" I guess that's my question. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:34, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:::::I really think we should keep "Pom Pom (character)" and "pom pom (email)" because it will help people understand what they're looking at. If the name is exactly the same (even if the case is different) people will get confused. New links should go to one or the other, not to the disambiguation page. Links should only go to the disambiguation page when people aren't paying attention to what they're doing (something I do a lot). — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:49, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:::::The disambiguation page is also nice when people are looking for "Pom Pom" and they type it into the search box and hit "Go". — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:53, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

::::::Yeah, that makes sense. We'll have to add that to the list of things to change when bringing something over. To try to prevent some of the confusion. And to that user guide we still have to make... -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:55, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

I've pointed out before this page is unnecessary. [[Pom Pom (character)]] should be moved here, and [[pom pom]] should be the e-mail, and they can each have disambiguation notices at the top, like: ''You might be looking for the [[Strong Bad Email]] named [[pom pom]].'' It's good enough for Wikipedia and I think it's still good enough for us. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 12:35, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

In any case, we need to standardise this. Marzipan and Homsar's pages both have "(character)" and "(email)", whereas Pom Pom is just governed by case. Either way is fine, but it seems awkward to use both. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I think the email should be [[pom pom (email)]], but this page being changed to [[pom pom (character)]] is ridiculous. After all, what if there was an email entitled "strong bad"? Would we have to change the Strong Bad character page to [[Strong Bad (character)]]?

== Last time we've seen Pom Pom? ==

When was the last time we have seen Pom Pom? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 03:48, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I think it was way back in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]], which was released on May 9th. That IS a long time for such a main character to go without an appearance. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: [[Family Resemblence]] was more recent than that, in July, although it wasn't on the site. Last time on the site was [[modeling]], on June 27. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:32, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::That's still a long time, isn't it? In the early toons, you couldn't have one without Pom Pom. Although, I guess there are only so many things you can do with a big bouncy guy who speaks in bubbles, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'Specially since Pom Pom lacks the character flaws that plague every other member of the main cast. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:13, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Pom Pom has one character flaw: lack of character. We barely know anything about him. Personally, I'd rather TBC use him more or delete him from the main cast. I don't like a "main" character being ignored like this. But that's just me. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:::Things change. I think TBC ran out of gas for the Pom-ster - as it says above, he has no clearly defined character, and can't speak (except in bubbles). Not speaking hasn't seemed to have hurt [[The Poopsmith]] much, but there's only so much you can do with Pom-Pom...it was still interesting to see him go from Homestar's steadfast companion, to supporting character, to a once-in-a-blue-moon kinda guy. I don't think he'll totally disappear, but his halcion days are clearly passed. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::"Ran out of gas." That's funny. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::Huh? Oh...he's, like, a gas-filled balloon. Oh, man. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}
::::Truth be told, Pom Pom still has more appearances than The Poopsmith (who also hasn't appeared in anything for a while) or Homsar, but the former is catching up, and he's already been surpassed by The King of Town. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:37, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::The Poopsmith appeared in Trogdor Con, but it was just a little cameo. (but so was Pom Pom in modeling) Homsar, on the other hand, is becoming popular. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
:::: Ah, yes, forgot about that. Pom Pom's name was at least explicitly mentioned in modeling. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:52, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::That was very insightful about Pom Pom's lack of character flaws. He gets along with most everyone, he's confident, smart, a ladies' man... no wonder he hasn't been going places! Tell him to get an anxiety disorder or a fungus or something and he might have a comeback. ;)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 00:49, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I think that Pom Pom is more of a running gag, than an actual character, at least now, the joke with him being that he is a cool ladies man with tons of girlfriends, the Mack, when he is never really seen doing anything on screen, sort of like Morn getting the reputation of being the funniest guy around on Star Trek DS9. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 14:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Note that in his last four or five toons, he hasn't done anything but stand there. I think he should have at least been seen throwing the remote in [[strong badathlon]] or making out in [[the movies]]. I still don't think he deserves to die as much as the Poopsmith does, though. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reference? ==

Does getting Homestar out of some really tight pants count as a reference to Seinfeld?--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 13:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think so. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::I think it's a referance to homestar not wearing pants. Not to a seinfeld show. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
:Ah so there's the pants reference. It all makes sense.[[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 21:25, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Beats me.But Homestar Wore Daisy Dukes in "Long Pants".But The Cheat Ignited them.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Name ==
I've been wondering: how many times is the name "Pom Pom" (without the hyphen) actually used on the site? I've noticed that in almost all Strong Bad Emails, Strong Bad types it as "Pom-Pom". We did this with [[Strong Badia]], and I think we should do it with Pom(-)Pom as well. Anyone willing to do a more thorough investigation on this mystery? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Billiard Ball ==

Is the orange line on Pom Pom's belly a stripe or a midriff? Curious in Kankakee, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to say it was a stripe, based on the other picture on the page. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 01:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Yet ANOTHER reference? ==

Pomeranians are called so because they're from the Island of Pomerania. Is Pom-Pom called so because he's from the Isle(and) of Pom? (Pomeranians are also known as Poms.)[[User:72.68.200.118|72.68.200.118]] 23:39, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:I think most things are named for the island they come from. Skye terriers come from the Island of Skye, Hawaiians come from the Hawaiian Islands, and so forth. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pom Pom apearances as diffferent people ==

Some one should add that Pom Pom also appears as baby Pom in the email highschool.

== pants ==

should it be noted there is a reference to homestar's pants in this toon?
:Sure, why not? Done. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:49, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== Organ Donors rock ==

I think that he's an organ donor(says so on his drivers liscense) because his body is made out of that weird substance. Maybe he can regenerate organs-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 22:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Cheat

Runstar Homer — Tue, 08 May 2007 21:17:47 GMT

Runstar Homer:

{{featuredarticle}}
== Rewriting ==

This could use a little rewriting. Too conversational, and needs a mention that The Cheat's Flash animations are TBC's way of making fun of their earlier style. Should I take a crack at it? [[User:spblat|spblat]] 11:40, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

== The Cheat Smokes ==
Why was this taken off?
-Your Fuzzy God

:I suppose because it's not very interesting, and it only occurs in one toon and one game. If we listed every single odd thing that The Cheat happened to do twice on his character page, it would be a mess. Noting it on the pages for those toons is enough. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

I think his smoking is notable for his character page. 3 mentions now -[[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 00:40, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

In [[montage|montage]] you actually see him smoke. 4 mentions.
-Doreauxgard507

In "Where's the Cheat" you see that he was cheating on his New Year's resolution. A pack of Cigarettes were in there.But ya can't blame him, ya know...Cause he's the Cheat.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I believe there's also a page about this. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 20:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==
What's wrong with the screenshot on ths page? The link seems valid, but the picture's not showing up... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this isn't the kind of thing you put on the talk. --- [[User:The Coachsmith]]
:Actually, it's ''exactly'' the kind of thing you put on talk, i.e. talk that directly relates to the upkeep of the wiki. Note, however, that Upsilon wrote that 4 days short of a full year ago (and hasn't been here since July). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

::I'd imagine Upsilon was having a cache problem, but there's no way to know for sure at this point. All I know is that was right around the time we were uploading all our hotlinked images and thumbnailing them. [[User:spblat]], who was working on the uploading project, made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=12610 the edit] to change the hotlinked image to a thumbnail shortly before [[User:Upsilon]] added his note here, so I'm guessing that was to blame.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== BIG DESTROY THING ==
Right... I think I'm going to do a big, fat re-write of this thing. There are alot of bugs, mistakes, and general badness. Sorry, whoever wrote this, but the article is pretty shoddy. I mean, there's some good stuff, but most of it is not really... You know. Properly put together.

Unfortunately, the article wasn't ''originally'' written that well, so people tweaked it to make it better, but there's only so much you can tweak before the thing just needs a re-write.

== Hidden video cameras? Pah. ==

"The Cheat has hooked his computer to a hidden video camera in the Computer Room, as seen in huttah!"

That's not how I interpreted that scene. Judging by Strong Bad's reaction, The Cheat was simply watching the email online just like the rest of us (of course, being a fictional character in the same world as Strong Bad he gets to watch it in real time).

:I completely agree and I've changed the article to reflect this. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:06, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

Another thing to note: The Cheat's handle.. 'cheatachu'
*If The Cheat was watching the email, he would have seen himself on screen, watching himself watch an email of himself watching the email. Get it? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You're thinking waaaaaaaaay to hard. How can SB type with boxing gloves? How can Homestar pick things up? It's the same thing.

And how can Marzipan pick things up?--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Look. In the hr universe, strong bad has his own webcam show, and the cheat was watching it. [[User:Lopolo42|Lopolo42]]

== Drum Solo ==

Based on [[Cool Things]] should we add that The Cheat plays the drums?

:Check out the current first sentence of the third paragraph. It's already there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:48, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Birthyear 1983? ==

In the email [[autobiography]] and on one of the patches, it has the same The Cheat logo stating "since 1983." That could easily mean that The Cheat was born somewheres in 1983. But since it's not concrete evidence or anything I'd suggest putting something like "The Cheat's birthday was presumably in 1983," or something to that effect. [[User:64.230.22.54|64.230.22.54]] 01:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

He was making fun of PBS. just that. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I really wouldn't dismiss it just like that.
nicko9y

== The Cheat Speak? ==

Are we trying to interpret cheat speak or not? I've seen some articles that to and some that don't. I think a decision has been made, but I don't remember it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

== Firefox Rendering Error ==

[[Image:Cheat Firefox Error.jpg|thumb|Whoops!]]
Anyone know what might be causing this? Firefox renders the '''<nowiki>[edit]</nowiki>''' link for The Cheat's Biography section on top of the text for that section, whereas the edit link renders correctly for all other sections. This link also renders correctly in IE. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:I can't tell you in technical terms what's ''causing'' it, but it appears to have to do with the way text breaks around pictures. I can also tell you that this is just one example of a phenomenon that happens on scores of pages (of course now that I try I can't come up with any). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Is this just something we gotta live with, then? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Clever use of <code><nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki></code> is what is needed here {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Sadly, it has to do with the way IE and Firefox interpret the same code -- there are things they treat differently, giving all of this weird behavior :( --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== What is the Cheat? ==

Is The Cheat a pet owned by The Brothers Strong or is he some kind of yellow midget (sorry, lil person) who hangs around them? Or is this so wildly inconsistent that it'll never be agreed upon? Just trying to clarify this. BEGIN DISCUSSION! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 04:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think most of his relations to Strong Bad are explained in [[lackey]]. Yes, sure he hangs around with Strong Bad, but when the time comes he does his biddings. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::''{Edit conflict}'' I think that's answered pretty well by taking [[lackey]], [[privileges]], and [[bedtime story]] into simultaneous consideration. Go ahead. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also remember that The Cheat does not officially live with The Brothers Strong; he lives in The King of Town's grill for some reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Weren't you guys paying attention to Strong Mad and Homestar in [[do over]]? The Cheat is cow! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I understand his living situation. What I meant was what is he in the physical sense; Yellow dog (as in [[army]]) or furry little man (as in [[cheat talk]])? -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 16:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::He's a The Cheat. Not much more you can say about it. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Look, analyzing The Cheat didn't work for Strong Bad, and it's not gonna work for you either! ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:08, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Mayhaps you have a point KieferSkunk. Later on, forthwith, trimpantly/abundantly TBC will provide us with more backstory over which to ponder, hopefully. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
PS. Sorry Strong Bad finally nabbed you in [[portrait|email #139]].
:Hehe, that's okay. I gave him $7.50, and he gave me privelages. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:PS: You did get what I was referencing above, right?
::You were referring to [[big white face|this email]], right? OR did you mean [[privileges]]? This post or last post? I got them both anyway. I think. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
:::Actually, I was referring to [[for kids|this one]], and to the message in [[Peasant's Quest]] when you try to make friends with the Kerrek. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh oh oh...I thought this weeks e-mail was called Teddy Graham Memories. I thought you were talking about the physical drawing of The Cheat being a mystery in "big white face". But now I see the refernce to the Kerrek and for kids. Very amusing! ha ha ha. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 17:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
The Cheat is Strong Bad's "very own a-The Cheat!" ([[flashback]]) {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think of him as Strong Bad's teenage son kinda. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:53, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
::If that's true, who's The Cheat's mother? Marzipan? One of Pom-Pom's Girls? Katie 80? Bubs? I've always kind of viewed The Cheat as an intelligent pet, abliet one who screws up capers a lot. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 01:55, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I was thinking more of "unnoficial father." Just like a guy who is close enough to him that he's his son, but not legally his father. Kinda like... the cheats adopted. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Adopt a Cheat! Take one home today! Great Jenga player, enjoys sudsuu (you'll have to ask it for the recipie), makes great plans. Warning: Often screws up great plans, stinks when wet, may steal underwear, DO NOT ask it to rig fireworks. Comes with free Van Buren Bust. Available for two easy payments of $19.95 and one difficult payment of $14.95. Call 1-800-555-CHEKT and order yours today!!! We're kind of straying from my original question anyway, but that struck me as kind of funny. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 02:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
*Sleepy Time The Cheat comes with everyting you see here. The Cheat sold separately. - {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I want one!! 
Anyway, I see him like this: if your dog was intelligent and you understood gis barks and he understood your speech, and was loyal, and yellow and spotted and...... un-dog-shaped, you'd have a The Cheat. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to agree with both Salty and Has Matt. The Cheat is some kind of super intelligent, accident prone pet and I want one too! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::A pet whose head occasionally explodes. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::: And that lives in a different house. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== A cat, not a dog ==

Has anyone ever noticed that the Cheat sort of looks like a cheetah?

:Just the spots. I've always thought of him more of a flat headed Pikachu. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. He's yellow with spots. His body couldn't be less like a cheetah. But still, I think there might have been some connection in the early days. But unless it's been mentioned before by a toon or a Chap, there's nothing for the article. So, I guess I'll go watch [[replacement]] yet again.

He was once The Sneak.Back then he was a freakin' mole-lookin' thing chasing around Marzipan. It's in "Ballad of the Sneak".--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree he is some what like a cheatah (barely)--[[User:The-double-deuce|The-double-deuce]] 00:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

No way man. The Cheat looks more like pikachu COMBINED with a cheatah.--[[User:Daniel|Daniel]] 16:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure he's not a cow?

Maybe it's just me, but is the fact that he's furry, yellow, has spots and name sounds like 'cheetah' a bit suspicious? o_O [[User:Enigma|Enigma]] 13:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== blinking ==

did anyone else notice that the cheat wil blink twice the first, then blink once?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 13:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Some dings dis articles says no makeses di senses! ==

:''The Cheat (whose name is "The Cheat", with an integral article).''

Uh, should there be something after that? We should've kept the part that says he's "quite one of a kind." That isn't fanwanks, [[Visor Robot|dis be]]! It'd be worth it to keep something redundant on the page. Better redundant than retarded. (Sorry, I'm in a weird mood.) {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Yeah, something needs to change there: it's a sentence fragment as it is. But I don't think putting back that thing about "the only one of his kind" is the right solution. Lemme see if I can think of something else (possibly just combining a couple sentences). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Mmm.... stir fry veggie-- what? Oh, yeah, that's pretty much an incomplete sentence. "The Cheat (something about integral article) ___________" and fill the blank with something about The Cheat. I'ma go eat some stir fry.. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Was he ever referred to as "one of a kind" in an old characters page...? It sounds vaguely familiar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::In [[flashback]] Strong Bad says, my very own The Cheat, infrencing that there are more or that he has heard of the cheat race before. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fluffy Image ==

Should there be an image of The Cheat fluffed-out from the drier on this page? It doesn't necessarily contribute anything, but it is gosh-darned cute. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 09:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
: True, but we already have useless pictures on other pages, andi do not want all of the pages to be spammed with useless pictures that have at least 1 thing that is related to it (even though he is cute that way). --Sbmaniac--

== Pouch type Cheat ==

Anyone besides me think The Cheat has a pouch? It would be cool! I mean, like if SB was out of Cold Ones and the cheat stole them from Bubs, he could put them in his pouch, and tell bubs he hasn't seen anything, while it's hiding in his pouch! - Alex H.

:No, I doubt The <s>Chort</s> Cheat has a pouch. Is there any toon that might support this fact, though? (It would be pretty awesome) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My freind said that a toon that was taken from the sight might have proved it. Since the only removed toon with The <s>Chekt</s> <s>Ceat</s> Cheat in it was [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], we can see if that's true. -Alex H.

== Best Character?? ==

I've read a lot of userpages that say The Cheat is the user's favorite character. ([[User:SamFisher1022|Mine]] is one of them...) Is it just me, or could The Cheat be the site's most popular character? {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:02, 7 September 2006
:Edit Conflict! Argh! SB is the most popular character, SamFisher. You know better. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::I do, actually. SBEmails are definitely the most popular feature on the site. (I was really expecting you to reply like that, I saw your userpage too.) But SB is seldom mentioned on the userpages I've read, and I've read a lot. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:15, 7 September 2006
:::Yeah, alright. Maybe it's possible that The Cheat is just more popular around here? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::::You're probably right. We might like The Cheat, but that doesn't mean SB is nothing. The site would probably be pretty boring without his emails. That'd be a freakin' nightmare. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:44 7 September 2006

==The Cheat Baxter-Birney==
Surely this was just a throw away joke about a sitcom/soap actor called Meredith Baxter-Birney, not an indication of his surname? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Definitely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If that's true, should we leave it in the article? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::OK, This has been driving me crazy ever since it was added. . .I'm removing it --[[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Pokémon design? ==

According to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|Pikachu]] article, "The character [[The Cheat (Homestar Runner)|The Cheat]] from [[Homestar Runner]] is also sometimes considered to be a Pikachu parody, although he was created before ''Pokémon'' was imported to America. [[The Brothers Chaps]] modified his design to give him more resemblance to a Pikachu after the Pokémon anime made its debut". It is followed by a small "citation needed" notice. I travelled long and hard until I arrived at the HRWiki, knowing that they would provide the necessary citation. After searching both the [[The Cheat]] and [[The Cheat Evolution]] articles, I could find nothing of the sort. Is there anything here that can prove this fact? --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 17:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think there's any proof to be find that they modified him simply to look more like a Pokémon. However, we do know that he's been compared to Pikachu a lot on the website. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Cheat talking or humming? ==

[[Image:weirdedoutthecheat.PNG|thumb|the only time I've seen it open]]
Has anyone ever actualy seen The Cheat talk with his mouth open? I think that he hums regularly and talks with his mouth open for powered by the cheat. Any comments on this subject. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 05:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

==Face==
What's with the cheat's eyes? They seem to be on different sides of his facebone.
:They're not unlike [[Homestar Runner#Homestar's Eyes|Homestar's]]. Or Mickey Mouse's ears. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Flash Effect? ==

The Cheat is always using an effect that makes something turn into something else. (like the skull in Summer Short Shorts) How do you do this?
:It's shape tweening. It makes a cartoon look shoddy if it's done the way The Cheat does it. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Yep, they're [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000629.html#wp71610 shape tweens]. They can look ok if you [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000630.html#71644 take the time to tweak them], but in their default state between two random shapes, they tend to end up looking like the garbled mess you see in the PBtC cartoons. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Cheatware ==

<blockquote> He also has some knowledge of coding, as he wrote a program for Strong Bad to help him get past the office's firewalls.</blockquote>

I removed this sentence from the Biography, because I don't think there is any evidence that the Cheat actually authored the program. Rather, that he simply redistributed it on a floppy disk to Strongbad. The program appears to be the work of [[Edgar]]. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 01:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

=="Cheat, The...Or The, Cheat?"==

I'm wondering if "The" is actually a surname, while "Cheat" may be his given name. The surname followed by given name structure is common in many parts of the world, an example being the basketball player Yao Ming. "Yao" is the family name, and that is why it appears on the back of his jersey! The facts are that "The Cheat" is always captalized, no matter where it appears in a written sentence. Also, very rarely is he referred to as anything other than "The Cheat", even when the determiner "The" would be gramatically incorrect. He refers to himself as "The Cheat" in his character video, and most importantly, when Marzipan returns from her date with The Cheat in DATE NIGHT, Homestar asks her if her name is "The Marzipan" now.

Is there some way we can confirm this? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 16:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:Interesting, but I think it's just that we always refer to him with the integral article (or whatever those things are called). Now, we know all about the first name surname dealie (see [[The Brothers Strong]]), but I doubt that "The" is a surname. Just a part of his name in general. Like, in Spanish, it's considered correct to write "El Señor Martinez" (The Mr. Martinez) when referring to someone in the thirs person, formally. And his name is, in reality, just Señor Martinez. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, the fact that "The Cheat" may just be his name crossed my mind, but it was more Homestar's comment about "The Marzipan" that made me start wondering. Of course, Homestar is an idiot, but why else would he choose that particular name to call her? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 05:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It's possible that Homestar is just stupid, but "The" may be an honorific like Doc. or Mr. or Prof. However, in Flashback he is called "A" The Cheat, suggesting that all The Cheat are called this, so it may be a family surname, but who's family would have the same first name for everybody? Also, he's ALMOST never reffered to as just Cheat, so my theory of "the" being an honorific might be correct, since people are sometimes called by their last names. Kinda long but that's what I think-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 21:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Cheat

Runstar Homer — Tue, 08 May 2007 21:16:42 GMT

Runstar Homer:

{{featuredarticle}}
== Rewriting ==

This could use a little rewriting. Too conversational, and needs a mention that The Cheat's Flash animations are TBC's way of making fun of their earlier style. Should I take a crack at it? [[User:spblat|spblat]] 11:40, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

== The Cheat Smokes ==
Why was this taken off?
-Your Fuzzy God

:I suppose because it's not very interesting, and it only occurs in one toon and one game. If we listed every single odd thing that The Cheat happened to do twice on his character page, it would be a mess. Noting it on the pages for those toons is enough. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

I think his smoking is notable for his character page. 3 mentions now -[[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 00:40, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

In [[montage|montage]] you actually see him smoke. 4 mentions.
-Doreauxgard507

In "Where's the Cheat" you see that he was cheating on his New Year's resolution. A pack of Cigarettes were in there.But ya can't blame him, ya know...Cause he's the Cheat.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I believe there's also a page about this. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 20:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==
What's wrong with the screenshot on ths page? The link seems valid, but the picture's not showing up... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this isn't the kind of thing you put on the talk. --- [[User:The Coachsmith]]
:Actually, it's ''exactly'' the kind of thing you put on talk, i.e. talk that directly relates to the upkeep of the wiki. Note, however, that Upsilon wrote that 4 days short of a full year ago (and hasn't been here since July). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

::I'd imagine Upsilon was having a cache problem, but there's no way to know for sure at this point. All I know is that was right around the time we were uploading all our hotlinked images and thumbnailing them. [[User:spblat]], who was working on the uploading project, made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=12610 the edit] to change the hotlinked image to a thumbnail shortly before [[User:Upsilon]] added his note here, so I'm guessing that was to blame.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== BIG DESTROY THING ==
Right... I think I'm going to do a big, fat re-write of this thing. There are alot of bugs, mistakes, and general badness. Sorry, whoever wrote this, but the article is pretty shoddy. I mean, there's some good stuff, but most of it is not really... You know. Properly put together.

Unfortunately, the article wasn't ''originally'' written that well, so people tweaked it to make it better, but there's only so much you can tweak before the thing just needs a re-write.

== Hidden video cameras? Pah. ==

"The Cheat has hooked his computer to a hidden video camera in the Computer Room, as seen in huttah!"

That's not how I interpreted that scene. Judging by Strong Bad's reaction, The Cheat was simply watching the email online just like the rest of us (of course, being a fictional character in the same world as Strong Bad he gets to watch it in real time).

:I completely agree and I've changed the article to reflect this. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:06, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

Another thing to note: The Cheat's handle.. 'cheatachu'
*If The Cheat was watching the email, he would have seen himself on screen, watching himself watch an email of himself watching the email. Get it? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You're thinking waaaaaaaaay to hard. How can SB type with boxing gloves? How can Homestar pick things up? It's the same thing.

And how can Marzipan pick things up?--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Look. In the hr universe, strong bad has his own webcam show, and the cheat was watching it. [[User:Lopolo42|Lopolo42]]

== Drum Solo ==

Based on [[Cool Things]] should we add that The Cheat plays the drums?

:Check out the current first sentence of the third paragraph. It's already there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:48, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Birthyear 1983? ==

In the email [[autobiography]] and on one of the patches, it has the same The Cheat logo stating "since 1983." That could easily mean that The Cheat was born somewheres in 1983. But since it's not concrete evidence or anything I'd suggest putting something like "The Cheat's birthday was presumably in 1983," or something to that effect. [[User:64.230.22.54|64.230.22.54]] 01:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

He was making fun of PBS. just that. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I really wouldn't dismiss it just like that.
nicko9y

== The Cheat Speak? ==

Are we trying to interpret cheat speak or not? I've seen some articles that to and some that don't. I think a decision has been made, but I don't remember it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

== Firefox Rendering Error ==

[[Image:Cheat Firefox Error.jpg|thumb|Whoops!]]
Anyone know what might be causing this? Firefox renders the '''<nowiki>[edit]</nowiki>''' link for The Cheat's Biography section on top of the text for that section, whereas the edit link renders correctly for all other sections. This link also renders correctly in IE. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:I can't tell you in technical terms what's ''causing'' it, but it appears to have to do with the way text breaks around pictures. I can also tell you that this is just one example of a phenomenon that happens on scores of pages (of course now that I try I can't come up with any). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Is this just something we gotta live with, then? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Clever use of <code><nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki></code> is what is needed here {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Sadly, it has to do with the way IE and Firefox interpret the same code -- there are things they treat differently, giving all of this weird behavior :( --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== What is the Cheat? ==

Is The Cheat a pet owned by The Brothers Strong or is he some kind of yellow midget (sorry, lil person) who hangs around them? Or is this so wildly inconsistent that it'll never be agreed upon? Just trying to clarify this. BEGIN DISCUSSION! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 04:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think most of his relations to Strong Bad are explained in [[lackey]]. Yes, sure he hangs around with Strong Bad, but when the time comes he does his biddings. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::''{Edit conflict}'' I think that's answered pretty well by taking [[lackey]], [[privileges]], and [[bedtime story]] into simultaneous consideration. Go ahead. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also remember that The Cheat does not officially live with The Brothers Strong; he lives in The King of Town's grill for some reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Weren't you guys paying attention to Strong Mad and Homestar in [[do over]]? The Cheat is cow! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I understand his living situation. What I meant was what is he in the physical sense; Yellow dog (as in [[army]]) or furry little man (as in [[cheat talk]])? -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 16:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::He's a The Cheat. Not much more you can say about it. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Look, analyzing The Cheat didn't work for Strong Bad, and it's not gonna work for you either! ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:08, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Mayhaps you have a point KieferSkunk. Later on, forthwith, trimpantly/abundantly TBC will provide us with more backstory over which to ponder, hopefully. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
PS. Sorry Strong Bad finally nabbed you in [[portrait|email #139]].
:Hehe, that's okay. I gave him $7.50, and he gave me privelages. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:PS: You did get what I was referencing above, right?
::You were referring to [[big white face|this email]], right? OR did you mean [[privileges]]? This post or last post? I got them both anyway. I think. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
:::Actually, I was referring to [[for kids|this one]], and to the message in [[Peasant's Quest]] when you try to make friends with the Kerrek. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh oh oh...I thought this weeks e-mail was called Teddy Graham Memories. I thought you were talking about the physical drawing of The Cheat being a mystery in "big white face". But now I see the refernce to the Kerrek and for kids. Very amusing! ha ha ha. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 17:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
The Cheat is Strong Bad's "very own a-The Cheat!" ([[flashback]]) {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think of him as Strong Bad's teenage son kinda. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:53, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
::If that's true, who's The Cheat's mother? Marzipan? One of Pom-Pom's Girls? Katie 80? Bubs? I've always kind of viewed The Cheat as an intelligent pet, abliet one who screws up capers a lot. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 01:55, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I was thinking more of "unnoficial father." Just like a guy who is close enough to him that he's his son, but not legally his father. Kinda like... the cheats adopted. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Adopt a Cheat! Take one home today! Great Jenga player, enjoys sudsuu (you'll have to ask it for the recipie), makes great plans. Warning: Often screws up great plans, stinks when wet, may steal underwear, DO NOT ask it to rig fireworks. Comes with free Van Buren Bust. Available for two easy payments of $19.95 and one difficult payment of $14.95. Call 1-800-555-CHEKT and order yours today!!! We're kind of straying from my original question anyway, but that struck me as kind of funny. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 02:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
*Sleepy Time The Cheat comes with everyting you see here. The Cheat sold separately. - {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I want one!! 
Anyway, I see him like this: if your dog was intelligent and you understood gis barks and he understood your speech, and was loyal, and yellow and spotted and...... un-dog-shaped, you'd have a The Cheat. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to agree with both Salty and Has Matt. The Cheat is some kind of super intelligent, accident prone pet and I want one too! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::A pet whose head occasionally explodes. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::: And that lives in a different house. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== A cat, not a dog ==

Has anyone ever noticed that the Cheat sort of looks like a cheetah?

:Just the spots. I've always thought of him more of a flat headed Pikachu. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. He's yellow with spots. His body couldn't be less like a cheetah. But still, I think there might have been some connection in the early days. But unless it's been mentioned before by a toon or a Chap, there's nothing for the article. So, I guess I'll go watch [[replacement]] yet again.

He was once The Sneak.Back then he was a freakin' mole-lookin' thing chasing around Marzipan. It's in "Ballad of the Sneak".--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree he is some what like a cheatah (barely)--[[User:The-double-deuce|The-double-deuce]] 00:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

No way man. The Cheat looks more like pikachu COMBINED with a cheatah.--[[User:Daniel|Daniel]] 16:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure he's not a cow?

Maybe it's just me, but is the fact that he's furry, yellow, has spots and name sounds like 'cheetah' a bit suspicious? o_O [[User:Enigma|Enigma]] 13:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== blinking ==

did anyone else notice that the cheat wil blink twice the first, then blink once?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 13:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Some dings dis articles says no makeses di senses! ==

:''The Cheat (whose name is "The Cheat", with an integral article).''

Uh, should there be something after that? We should've kept the part that says he's "quite one of a kind." That isn't fanwanks, [[Visor Robot|dis be]]! It'd be worth it to keep something redundant on the page. Better redundant than retarded. (Sorry, I'm in a weird mood.) {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Yeah, something needs to change there: it's a sentence fragment as it is. But I don't think putting back that thing about "the only one of his kind" is the right solution. Lemme see if I can think of something else (possibly just combining a couple sentences). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Mmm.... stir fry veggie-- what? Oh, yeah, that's pretty much an incomplete sentence. "The Cheat (something about integral article) ___________" and fill the blank with something about The Cheat. I'ma go eat some stir fry.. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Was he ever referred to as "one of a kind" in an old characters page...? It sounds vaguely familiar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::In [[flashback]] Strong Bad says, my very own The Cheat, infrencing that there are more or that he has heard of the cheat race before. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fluffy Image ==

Should there be an image of The Cheat fluffed-out from the drier on this page? It doesn't necessarily contribute anything, but it is gosh-darned cute. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 09:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
: True, but we already have useless pictures on other pages, andi do not want all of the pages to be spammed with useless pictures that have at least 1 thing that is related to it (even though he is cute that way). --Sbmaniac--

== Pouch type Cheat ==

Anyone besides me think The Cheat has a pouch? It would be cool! I mean, like if SB was out of Cold Ones and the cheat stole them from Bubs, he could put them in his pouch, and tell bubs he hasn't seen anything, while it's hiding in his pouch! - Alex H.

:No, I doubt The <s>Chort</s> Cheat has a pouch. Is there any toon that might support this fact, though? (It would be pretty awesome) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My freind said that a toon that was taken from the sight might have proved it. Since the only removed toon with The <s>Chekt</s> <s>Ceat</s> Cheat in it was [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], we can see if that's true. -Alex H.

== Best Character?? ==

I've read a lot of userpages that say The Cheat is the user's favorite character. ([[User:SamFisher1022|Mine]] is one of them...) Is it just me, or could The Cheat be the site's most popular character? {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:02, 7 September 2006
:Edit Conflict! Argh! SB is the most popular character, SamFisher. You know better. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::I do, actually. SBEmails are definitely the most popular feature on the site. (I was really expecting you to reply like that, I saw your userpage too.) But SB is seldom mentioned on the userpages I've read, and I've read a lot. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:15, 7 September 2006
:::Yeah, alright. Maybe it's possible that The Cheat is just more popular around here? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::::You're probably right. We might like The Cheat, but that doesn't mean SB is nothing. The site would probably be pretty boring without his emails. That'd be a freakin' nightmare. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:44 7 September 2006

==The Cheat Baxter-Birney==
Surely this was just a throw away joke about a sitcom/soap actor called Meredith Baxter-Birney, not an indication of his surname? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Definitely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If that's true, should we leave it in the article? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::OK, This has been driving me crazy ever since it was added. . .I'm removing it --[[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Pokémon design? ==

According to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|Pikachu]] article, "The character [[The Cheat (Homestar Runner)|The Cheat]] from [[Homestar Runner]] is also sometimes considered to be a Pikachu parody, although he was created before ''Pokémon'' was imported to America. [[The Brothers Chaps]] modified his design to give him more resemblance to a Pikachu after the Pokémon anime made its debut". It is followed by a small "citation needed" notice. I travelled long and hard until I arrived at the HRWiki, knowing that they would provide the necessary citation. After searching both the [[The Cheat]] and [[The Cheat Evolution]] articles, I could find nothing of the sort. Is there anything here that can prove this fact? --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 17:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think there's any proof to be find that they modified him simply to look more like a Pokémon. However, we do know that he's been compared to Pikachu a lot on the website. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Cheat talking or humming? ==

[[Image:weirdedoutthecheat.PNG|thumb|the only time I've seen it open]]
Has anyone ever actualy seen The Cheat talk with his mouth open? I think that he hums regularly and talks with his mouth open for powered by the cheat. Any comments on this subject. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 05:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

==Face==
What's with the cheat's eyes? They seem to be on different sides of his facebone.
:They're not unlike [[Homestar Runner#Homestar's Eyes|Homestar's]]. Or Mickey Mouse's ears. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Flash Effect? ==

The Cheat is always using an effect that makes something turn into something else. (like the skull in Summer Short Shorts) How do you do this?
:It's shape tweening. It makes a cartoon look shoddy if it's done the way The Cheat does it. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Yep, they're [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000629.html#wp71610 shape tweens]. They can look ok if you [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000630.html#71644 take the time to tweak them], but in their default state between two random shapes, they tend to end up looking like the garbled mess you see in the PBtC cartoons. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Cheatware ==

<blockquote> He also has some knowledge of coding, as he wrote a program for Strong Bad to help him get past the office's firewalls.</blockquote>

I removed this sentence from the Biography, because I don't think there is any evidence that the Cheat actually authored the program. Rather, that he simply redistributed it on a floppy disk to Strongbad. The program appears to be the work of [[Edgar]]. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 01:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

=="Cheat, The...Or The, Cheat?"==

I'm wondering if "The" is actually a surname, while "Cheat" may be his given name. The surname followed by given name structure is common in many parts of the world, an example being the basketball player Yao Ming. "Yao" is the family name, and that is why it appears on the back of his jersey! The facts are that "The Cheat" is always captalized, no matter where it appears in a written sentence. Also, very rarely is he referred to as anything other than "The Cheat", even when the determiner "The" would be gramatically incorrect. He refers to himself as "The Cheat" in his character video, and most importantly, when Marzipan returns from her date with The Cheat in DATE NIGHT, Homestar asks her if her name is "The Marzipan" now.

Is there some way we can confirm this? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 16:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:Interesting, but I think it's just that we always refer to him with the integral article (or whatever those things are called). Now, we know all about the first name surname dealie (see [[The Brothers Strong]]), but I doubt that "The" is a surname. Just a part of his name in general. Like, in Spanish, it's considered correct to write "El Señor Martinez" (The Mr. Martinez) when referring to someone in the thirs person, formally. And his name is, in reality, just Señor Martinez. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, the fact that "The Cheat" may just be his name crossed my mind, but it was more Homestar's comment about "The Marzipan" that made me start wondering. Of course, Homestar is an idiot, but why else would he choose that particular name to call her? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 05:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It's possible that Homestar is just stupid, but "The" may be an honorific like Doc. or Mr. or Prof. However, in Flashback he is called "A" The Cheat, suggesting that all The Cheat are called this, so it may be a family surname, but who's family would have the same first name for everybody? Also, he's ALMOST never reffered to as just Cheat, so my theory of "the" being an honorific might be correct, since people are sometimes called by their last names. Kina long but that's what I think-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 21:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:impression

Runstar Homer — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:18:46 GMT

Runstar Homer: /**/Flawless Homsar?

==Sock==
Just in case some of you didn't know, Homestar has the sock on his head because of the lump Strong Sad has on his not-so-circular head. On Strong Sad's action figure, this looks very much like a sock. Just throwing it out there. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
==Horly Crorp!==
CoachZ says Holy Crap...
: So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
: Uh, yeah, what's the big deal? -Walking Armless
:: He... says Holy Crap. Congratulations anonomyous, you... found the obvious! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I Think He Means That Coach Z Normally Says Something Along The Lines Of 'Horly Crorp'. Like when He Called The Cheat 'The Cheat' Instead Of 'Teh Chort' In The SB Email [[mascot]]. {{user:Homsar7/sig}}

==This is odd.==
After using a seek bar while the video was open, it showed that the afterparty was in a spot in the Flash file between the "loading" screen and the part where Strong Bad opens strongbad_email.exe. I could also hear Strong Bad for about a second during the transition from the afterparty to the end of the video. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 07:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:yeah i noticed that too...it was sort of weird. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==

===What year is it? (accepted)===

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.
*'''Decline.''' The email was made in 2003, at which time they were having the fourth annual Strong Sad lookalike contest. (Meaning they had been going on since 2000.) Strong Bad had already lost in 2003, so he was signing up to compete again in 2004. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Accept''' There is nothing anywhere in the email to imply the above scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:12, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**PS. In fact, looking over the transcript again, UYB's scenario is flat-out WRONG. SB says he already won the Penmanship Award (as in, it already happened), and lo and behold, the form that he's apparently using to "sign up for next year" already has a blue ribbon on it! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:00, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Oh, I see... TBC forgot what year it was. That's a little... weird. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
****'''Comment.''' I just watched it again and yes, Strong Bad apparently won the 2004 penmanship award in 2003 somehow. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Accept''' It's a fine fact. Though I am confused why TBC did this... -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:31, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Hot Cold Cuts?!? ==

Eating Moist towlettes am is are be hillarous! - Alex H.

== Gaggin' on a fun fact ==

I rewrote the Jhonka/High Five fun fact, because it had a grammatical error, and because as it was written, I didn't think it would really help someone who didn't understand the gag. However, I'm not even sure the fun fact is necessary... I can only surmise the STUFF process didn't exist at the time this article was made. Ehh, history of the pages doesn't seem to support that theory. So I'll settle with it being an oversight or something. Anyway, anybody care, or have any thoughts on the fun fact? -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 03:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

== Adieu? ==

A rather common confusion. Adieu, in this case, should be ado. I'm just gonna go ahead and add a remark about that, since I'm sure no one cares too much, and if anyone does, well, I left a trail, so I'll take the blame. -- [[User:Dragoon5464|Dragoon5464]] 10:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad afterparty? ==

Are you sure that one can hear Strong Bad in the afterparty Easter egg? I can't.

*It's been fixed. Duly noted. [[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 21:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

== Flawless Homsar? ==

Do you think that Homsar said he was cryin' on the inside to sound like Strong Sad, or because he was (apparently) disqualified?[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 18:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Sticklyman

Runstar Homer — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:07:41 GMT

Runstar Homer:

== 20X6 Poopsmith ==
How can Stickly Man ''not'' be the Poopsmith? Granted that he's not drawn in the style of the other 20x6 characters, but he doesn't talk, he's got a shovel, and there's an obvious comedic moment when Stinkoman takes a mouthful of whatever it is in that pile and you don't know for sure that it isn't poop. If it isn't the 20x6 version of the Poopsmith, it's certainly some other elseworlds version of the Poopsmith. Until another 20x6 Poopsmith steps forward, I would consider Stickly Man to be the 20x6 Poopsmith. Thoughts? [[User:Render|Render]]

:I have to agree with Render here. Now nobody but the [[The Brothers Chaps|creators]] really know for sure, but there definitely are some clues that suggest what the stickly man is shoveling may be more than just dirt. Sure, this man/logo appears on nearly every one of the countless "under construction" animated GIFs one sees on those surely-never-to-be-completed user webpages from like 1998. I'm just saying it's being pretty bold to go out and say "Stickly man''' is not''' a reference to the poopsmith", without backing this up with facts... (Saying it's not a "The Poopsmith" reference simply because it also appears on many other web pages isn't enough, wouldn't we agree?). --[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:00, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

:You can believe what you like, but don't go saying that Stickly Man is ''definitely'' The Poopsmith just because it's possible. We should all wait until it is confirmed whether or not this is true before saying it is for certain. [[User: Ogog|Ogog]]

::I think it's fair to say that there are definitely parallels, but waiting for official confirmation is prudent. Of course, this wiki is full of wild speculation anyway. [[User:Render|Render]]

I think Stickly Man ''is'' the 20X6 version of The Poopsmith. Kinda makes you wonder if maybe what The Poopsmith shovels isn't actually what it seems like it is...-[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]] 11:44, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)
:Well, he ''did'' serve it up to the King of Town... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I don't think you can really say Sticklyman is the 20X6 Poopsmith yet, since he's only appeared in one thing so far and it doesn't look like he will be showing up again. The only real similarity he has with the Poopsmith is having a shovel, and not enough evidence. It would be like saying that the [[King of Peasantry]] is based on the [[King of Town]] because they are both kings. What Sticklyman is digging is not poop (At least not in the "dub" version...), nobody makes any reference to the possibility that it is poop in the cartoon, and there's nothing that even implies this other than the assumption that Sticklyman is 20X6 Poopsmith. And not talking doesn't mean anything, for three reasons:
1. not every character in a cartoon has to have lines. [[Ripberger]] has never had lines, does that mean he's a reference to the Poopsmith?
2. The fight scene is ripped off from Ninja Gaiden, and in that scene neither character talks (except for the "..."). The only opportunity for Sticklyman to talk would have been after Stinkoman asked if he was asking for a challenge. One silent moment isn't equivalent to an entire vow.
3. Can YOU imagine what that guy's voice would sound like? I can't.
Oh, and one final reason Sticklyman probably isn't 20X6 Poopsmith: If he's the 20X6 Poopsmith, where's the 20X6 KOT?! [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 18:31, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Well put. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]
== Xiao Xiao ==

Well this isn't all too relavent to the Sticklyman/The Poopsmith conversation but I thought Sticklyman might be an allusion to Xiao Xiao as seen on AlbinoBlackSheep.com under the stick figure flash files. But it's likely that [[The Brothers Chaps]] didn't intend for this to be anything like Xiao Xiao. To watch this series, go to AlbinoBlackSheep.com or Xiaoxiaomovie.com.

== Come ON, people. ==

I really don't see how the possession of a shovel makes this guy another version of the Poopsmith. He's simply a reference to countless street signs, and "under construction" animated gifs on websites of old. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 21:47, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I agree. He bears no reference to the present-day Smith, except the shovel. A single prop isn't a lot. Also, I don't think the Poopsmith is that agile. (But that isn't a good reason, because look at Strong Bad, compared to "svelt, young" Stinkoman?) --[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds|Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]]

I agree too. If there was a stick person universe on H*R like 1936 and 20X6 I might agree with that, but how can he be 20X6 if he isn't even anime or futuristic? I mean, that's like saying that those buildings in the background of the 20X6 field is the equivelent of the sky. --[[User:im a evil wizard|im a evil wizard]]

Indeed. Just look at present-day Poopsmith and 1936 The Devil. All they're capable is poking at stuff. Stickly Man is able to fight and challenge. In closing, I'm still not creating an account for this wiki. --24.6.162.60

So WHAT? Is Strong Bad able to fight and challenge in regular time? NO! Is the Poopsmith able to talk? NO! Also, the Poopsmith DOES shovel the poop in his character video AND in three-time halloween funjob! Answer to that, smart guy!!! So, why don't '''YOU''' come on?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A VERY ticked off Runstar Homer]]

I still believe that this is a reference to the Poopsmith, but this is obviously not the 20X6 Poopsmith. Has anyone considered that it could just be stick figure version, and have nothing to do with the 20X6 world?

I agree with all said here. I can't even imagine how this came up for debate in the first place. --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

::Why would this not be 20X6 Poopsmith, when this is a [[20X6]] toon? {{User:FireBird/sig}}

I don't think it is necessarily a 20X6 cartoon. I think it's more an example of Stinko-Man being in an unusual situation, i.e. the Working sign that shows up at so many websites. And I think they saw the opportunity to make the worker character look like the Poopsmith. But that doesn't make him the 20X6 version of the Poopsmith.-Dr Pepper MD

Exactly - to say that Sticklyman is the Poopsmith 20x6 equivalent detracts from the intended humour by making a one-off joke needlessly ambiguous. From a pedantic point of view, Stickly Man doesn't qualify as a 20x6 character because he is not drawn in an anime style and does not originate from a 20x6 setting. -Grover Junior

Right.You don't see someone like strong sad walking through these 20x6 toons.-BOBLAND

(some other guy)--stick poeple are so generic that they can be just about anybody.--

== I know the truth ==

Sticklyman is NOT the 20x6 Poopsmith. I went to see the Brothers Chaps live and asked them. He is just a little stick figure who Stinkoman killed.

Hmmm if thats not reliable I dunno what is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]
: Is there any need, then, for the article to note that some people think he is the 20x6 counterpart of the Poopsmith?- Grover Junior
Look at The Poopsmith Discussion Page for why it wasn't removed (Coughunreleablenonamemakingupcrapcough)[[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

^ that guys funny by wich i mean 20x6 gem is cool--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 20:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

are you guys REALLY gonna believe this guy? he's obviusly lieing!-[[User:Timmy!]]

== Puddingsmith? ==

Why do you guys keeps removing the neutrally of Stickly Man's occupation? So what if Stinkoman, 1-Up and Pan Pan think Stickly Man shovels pudding? Strong Bad says he's a ladies man, but is that necessary true? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:22, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:What evidence is there that it ''isn't'' pudding? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What DorianGray said. There's plenty of good evidence that Strong Bad isn't a ladies man, but what reason is there to think that Stinkoman's lying about the pudding? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::What Dorian and Amanda said. Absent evidence to the contrary, we have to assume Stinkoman can correctly identify what is pudding. My ''two-year-old'' cousin can correctly identify what is and isn't pudding. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Sticklyman or Stickly Man ==
His name is never actually spelled. I think "Sticklyman" looks better than Stickly Man, and goes along with "Stinkoman" better. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
:Um... hello? I need feedback or else I'll just change it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 14:22, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I agree--after listening to [[Under_Construction]], when Stinkoman says "Sticklyman," it sounds like one word. [[User:Trey56|Trey56]] 15:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think it looks fine as it is now (as two words instead of a compound word). I also listened to [[Under Construction]]. There is already a redirect at [[Sticklyman]]. But if you want to change it to match the compound word Stinkoman, go right ahead. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:34, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I can't seem to move it over the redirect... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:05, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Obviously, now you have. Or someone else has. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

== Megaman Robot Master ==

::Being that Stinkoman somewhat parallels Mega Man, I'm thinking that Sticklyman is made to be like a Robot Master *Name ending in -man, animation demonstrating power before fight). That might mean that Sticklyman is just a random "boss", and not based on anyone. What do you think?

== Is this really necesary? ==

This article is about a stick figure. A stick figure that appeared ''one time'' on the site. It really seems superfuous. Correct me if I'm wrong...
:He was a major antagonist of Stinkoman, however. And there are articles that are much less than this one... And it's still entirely possible that he could crop up again. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Yes, it is possible he could appear. After all, I don't ever remember "killing" on the site. They changed Homsar from dead to severly injured (and made him talk sensibly for the first and probably last time, I might add), so stickly man is probably gonna come up again.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 18:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Z Sabre

Runstar Homer — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:00:18 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:43, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

20X6 Coach Z does NOT talk by moving his eyebrow up and down. I suppose that, if this is true, then the KoT speaks by moving his moustache and The Cheat talks by moving his arms and his body. Honestly. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

I think he would be a Sumo wrestler with this shape of body. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}

isnt it possible that he is in a cool look'in throne-type chair??? or maybe one o them sinister cloaks?
:Isn't it possible that it isn't 20X6 Coach Z at all? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Yes, it is possible, but it is also unknown. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}}

It IS unknown, but it's also pretty obvious that the pill is made with a Z on it and he looks a lot like Coach Z, and there's a concensus (I think) that he's Coach Z.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
== Shadow Coach Z? ==

Welllllllllllllll... maybe Coach Z is overweight in his 20x6 form. All we see for sure is his head anyway. However... maybe that's his evil twin or something, and they are both overweight. Any thoughts?-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:Eh, it probably ''is'' a silhouette. That's what I think TBC would do. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:28, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Another thing. He looks to me like he has a bit of an evil expression on his face that I noticed tonight (however, I am in a kind of fevery haze right now). So my "Evil Twin" comment is perhaps useless, so if you would like, I'm putting it as fair game for deletion or changing.-[[User:Runstar Homer|A fevery-type Runstar Homer (at the moment)]]

If you look at the head, I don't see who it could be but Coach Z. As for the rest of the sillhouette... does anybody else think it looks like he's wearing football pads or something? Plus the traditional bad-guy cape (of majesty), of course.
-Zero.exe

As far as I'm concerned, the "Shadowy Figure" is most likely 20X6 Coach Z standing in front of 20X6 Strong Mad, based on the square body.

Wait a second. Ther is no 20X6 Strong Mad. Moreover, if there was, wouldn't he look way different? Oh well, it's very unlikely, but still is about, in my opinion, 1% possible.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 18:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:06:22 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Talk:Stinkoman

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:05:38 GMT

Runstar Homer:

{{featuredarticle}}
==Name==
Keep it this way.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 15:39, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)
(except for screenshot)

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:38, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)


What the crap? Why has this been moved to Stinkoman 20X6? His name is Stinkoman! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. This should be moved back to [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 03:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::The only reason I didn't do it myself was because I'd like to hear Firebird's reason. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:"Stinkoman" is the character. "Stinkoman 20X6" is the game. Nothing needs a disambig here. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think someone got the character and the [[TV Shows|TV show]] mixed up. But then his name would be "Stinko Man K: 20X6" instead of "Stinkoman 20X6". I think this needs moving back regardless, as his name is always "Stinkoman", or in some cases "Stinko Man". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 07:25, 6 June 2005 (BST)

:I've always considered his name Stinkoman 20X6, but apparently I'm wrong. I'll go ahead and move it and delete the disambig page. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:11, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Okay. Moved back. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:27, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::When is his name Stinko Man? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

:On the TV show logo, and the [[Store]] page for the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] shirt. I think that's all of them. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 04:15, 11 August 2005 (BST)

His legs are at a different angle in the second one. --[[User:62.254.32.17|62.254.32.17]] 14:27, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah! Take ''that'', Joshua!>:) ...I think. Wait, ''what?'' -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
::What are you talking about? You take pride in saying I'm incorrect? As if you pwned me or something? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::Sorry, I had said that way back when I didn't like you very much after you had reverted my talk page. [[User talk:Joshua#Stop editing me!|Recall]]... or maybe don't. I looked at it and it's kind of scary. Oh, and he's just in a slightly different position, and his legs aren't always spread. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
== Messy Talk Page ==
So, are we ever gonna divide this part into sections, or are we just gonna have it messy like this? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:What do you mean by "messy"? Looks fine to me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:I mean I can't tell where each discussion starts and ends, and I think we should make them <nowiki>== Sections ==</nowiki>. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
There we go for starters. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I've put <nowiki></nowiki> in where I think titles should be. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 16:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== This is not an evolution. ==
His legs are lighter. That's not an evolution, that's a minor improvement in his shading. I think it should be deleted. Who agrees? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Not me. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:15, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:I don't agree with you, Poopsmith Z. It is an evolution, albeit a small one, but it is interesting for some to point out. (I didn't notice it until it was added here, and I was wondering if any of the 20X6 characters evolved.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::In that case, this might be [[Talk:1-Up#Evolution|interesting]]. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks the same to me.

:It's exactly the same guys, the second one is just in a different pose and zoomed out a little.
----

== Tengu Man Update! ==

I didn't know if I should have screwed around with the article part, so I just though I'd put this here. Anyway, Tengu Man is also known to use the phrase "Kid, you're almost not worth the effort!", and 1-Up wouldn't have been worth the effort in level 4 (Fistcuff!) if he hadn't had Stinkoman's Power Crunch. Fun Fact: A tengu is a bird with wings but apparently can't fly, and Tengu Man is an air creature with wind attacks like tornado hold. -[[User:Runstar Homer|A intelligent (I think) Runstar Homer]]
:Tengu can fly. They're little humanoid crows, or possibly red dudes with long noses and little wings. They definitely fly, and do magic.

They can? Weird. Oh well. Anyway, I should have figured that out seeing a Tengu Man can fly. He has a very unique ability of staying above you the whole time, which makes him really ----ing hard.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 23:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Evolution again? ==
Stinkoman's body shine is missing in [[alternate universe]]. Is this another update? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Well it would make sense. I mean no human being can really have a SHINY body. On the other hand, if he were sparkly clean, then... -Nicktendo 20X6

== Stinkoman K ==
Shouldn't his name be Stinkoman K?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 20:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:That was more the title of his program than of himself. Plus he's never actually been referred to as "Stinkoman K". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Someone say [[HRFWiki:User:Stinkoman K/Stinkoman K|my name]]? -{{User:Stinkoman K/Sig}} 16:11, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

== Cam Clarke ==

Akira is mentioned, but not the fact that Stinkoman is *so obviously* meant to sound like Cam Clarke. (Who voiced Kaneda in one of the Akira translations)

== Eyes ==

Stinkoman's eyes should look more aname style - {{user:Derrickee3/sig}} 03:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:03:39 GMT

Runstar Homer:

{{featuredarticle}}
==Name==
Keep it this way.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 15:39, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)
(except for screenshot)

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:38, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)


What the crap? Why has this been moved to Stinkoman 20X6? His name is Stinkoman! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. This should be moved back to [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 03:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::The only reason I didn't do it myself was because I'd like to hear Firebird's reason. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:"Stinkoman" is the character. "Stinkoman 20X6" is the game. Nothing needs a disambig here. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think someone got the character and the [[TV Shows|TV show]] mixed up. But then his name would be "Stinko Man K: 20X6" instead of "Stinkoman 20X6". I think this needs moving back regardless, as his name is always "Stinkoman", or in some cases "Stinko Man". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 07:25, 6 June 2005 (BST)

:I've always considered his name Stinkoman 20X6, but apparently I'm wrong. I'll go ahead and move it and delete the disambig page. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:11, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Okay. Moved back. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:27, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::When is his name Stinko Man? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

:On the TV show logo, and the [[Store]] page for the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] shirt. I think that's all of them. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 04:15, 11 August 2005 (BST)

His legs are at a different angle in the second one. --[[User:62.254.32.17|62.254.32.17]] 14:27, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah! Take ''that'', Joshua!>:) ...I think. Wait, ''what?'' -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
::What are you talking about? You take pride in saying I'm incorrect? As if you pwned me or something? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::Sorry, I had said that way back when I didn't like you very much after you had reverted my talk page. [[User talk:Joshua#Stop editing me!|Recall]]... or maybe don't. I looked at it and it's kind of scary. Oh, and he's just in a slightly different position, and his legs aren't always spread. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
== Messy Talk Page ==
So, are we ever gonna divide this part into sections, or are we just gonna have it messy like this? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:What do you mean by "messy"? Looks fine to me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:I mean I can't tell where each discussion starts and ends, and I think we should make them <nowiki>== Sections ==</nowiki>. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
There we go for starters. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I've put <nowiki></nowiki> in where I think titles should be. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 16:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== This is not an evolution. ==
His legs are lighter. That's not an evolution, that's a minor improvement in his shading. I think it should be deleted. Who agrees? [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]] 19:14, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Not me. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:15, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:I don't agree with you, Poopsmith Z. It is an evolution, albeit a small one, but it is interesting for some to point out. (I didn't notice it until it was added here, and I was wondering if any of the 20X6 characters evolved.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::In that case, this might be [[Talk:1-Up#Evolution|interesting]]. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks the same to me.

:It's exactly the same guys, the second one is just in a different pose and zoomed out a little.
----

== Tengu Man Update! ==

I didn't know if I should have screwed around with the article part, so I just though I'd put this here. Anyway, Tengu Man is also known to use the phrase "Kid, you're almost not worth the effort!", and 1-Up wouldn't have been worth the effort in level 4 (Fistcuff!) if he hadn't had Stinkoman's Power Crunch. Fun Fact: A tengu is a bird with wings but apparently can't fly, and Tengu Man is an air creature with wind attacks like tornado hold. -[[User:Runstar Homer|A intelligent (I think) Runstar Homer]]
:Tengu can fly. They're little humanoid crows, or possibly red dudes with long noses and little wings. They definitely fly, and do magic.

They can? Weird. Oh well. Anyway, I should have figured that out seeing a Tengu Man can fly. He has a very unique ability of staying above you the whole time, which makes him really ----ing hard.[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 23:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Evolution again? ==
Stinkoman's body shine is missing in [[alternate universe]]. Is this another update? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Well it would make sense. I mean no human being can really have a SHINY body. On the other hand, if he were sparkly clean, then... -Nicktendo 20X6

== Stinkoman K ==
Shouldn't his name be Stinkoman K?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 20:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:That was more the title of his program than of himself. Plus he's never actually been referred to as "Stinkoman K". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Someone say [[HRFWiki:User:Stinkoman K/Stinkoman K|my name]]? -{{User:Stinkoman K/Sig}} 16:11, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

== Cam Clarke ==

Akira is mentioned, but not the fact that Stinkoman is *so obviously* meant to sound like Cam Clarke. (Who voiced Kaneda in one of the Akira translations)

== Eyes ==

Stinkoman's eyes should look more aname style - {{user:Derrickee3/sig}} 03:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:1-Up

Runstar Homer — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:26:06 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Name ==

When did TBC ever call him "1-up Extra Man"? Someone please provide a link to wherever they said this. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 17:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I've never seen TBC call him that, but "1up" is the entry immediately following "stinkoman" in [http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml weeklies.xml]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:43, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
::I've heard the fact before (a long time ago, in fact); that it is in weeklies.xml confirms it enough for my tastes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
:::Where'd we get extraman from, though? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The games menu calls him "H", not 1-up. --[[User:198.37.16.25|198.37.16.25]] 15:06, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yet it also calls Stinkoman "SB". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

His name is 1-Up. Play the 20X6 game, and you'll see that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:10, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm stumbling upon this conversation months later, but I see that nobody's really answered the question. Why, on the article page, is he called "1-Up the extra man" instead of just "1-Up"? Every time somebody tries to fix it, it gets reverted. The only reference to this I can find is one instance in the Stinkomanual, and that seems more like a throwaway line than anything. Can someone shed some light on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I've heard that he was called "1-Up Extraman" (minus the "the") in an interview, and I heard this LONG prior to 1-Up's official name debut in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Okay, but where is this interview? Is there a transcript available to read? Even supposing it's true, does that make it canon? It seems like "1-Up the extra man" is like saying "Pan Pan the Giant Panda" or "Stinkoman the guy with blue hair". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Frankly, I'm not sure which interview it is. I heard it long before Stinkoman (the game) came out, but second-hand. Still, it fits what is in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Meh, it fits, sort of, but I still don't see how that isolated, [[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]-style reference elevates "the extra man" to be part of his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: You did not read my post, did you? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Anyway, [http://www.giantmag.com/help/framesetHandler.html?/issue_05/ft_homestar.php this] was the best that I could find, though I'm not sure it's the right interview (it refers to 1-Up by both names.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Didn't read your post? What? This coming from the person who doesn't read my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts&diff=93780&oldid=93772 STUFF votes]?   ;)
::::::: I said that because I was talking about an interview, and you were still talking about the Stinkomanual. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: When I said "it fits, sort of", I was referring to the interview. My wording was awkward, because I moved on to the Stinkomanual without a good transition, and that was confusing. Still, it's a silly question to ask somebody if they read your post. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: My apologies. I had trouble trying to figure out what you were saying - because, yeah, the wording was kinda awkward. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::: Seriously, I read your post (and that interview), but maybe I was unclear, so I'll spell it out: Mike saying "It’s either Extra Man or One Up" fits with the line in the Stinkomanual; that is, I can see how the former inspired the latter, but I what I don't get is how an obscure, non-canon interview combined with an intentionally poorly written, uncapitalized, throwaway reference in the manual makes 1-Up's name anything more than "1-Up". I say uncapitalized because if the manual read, "1up the Extra Man", I could accept it as part of the name, but I think it's just a description—if 1-Up weren't getting in the way on that level, Stinkoman wouldn't have to protect him. He's literally an extra man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Like I said, I don't think that was really the interview in question (I'm pretty sure the "1-Up Extraman" thing predates many things mentioned in that article - for instance, The Cheat Commandos.) It was just the best I could find. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: That's kinda my point. We don't really have enough to go on. If this were a fun fact, "the extra man" would be declined with severe prejudice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I still say I've heard it before, long predating the game and likely predating that interview. It would've been nice if TBC had just come out and admitted the character's name in the first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Maybe you think I don't believe that the interview is out there somewhere. That's not the case at all. I've looked through the page's history, and there were references to "Extraman" way before the debut of the Stinkogame. So I don't doubt for a second that TBC were considering giving 1-Up a different name. What I'm saying is, even if they ''were'' considering this, they ultimately chose "1-Up", and the isolated "extra man" bit in the manual is just a gag. Here's an analogy: at one point, they were going to make the KOT be Marzipan's father. Heck, you can even still find this on the [[HR:charactersold.html|official site]]. But they have clearly abandoned this idea, and it is not considered canon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I see where you're coming from. I suppose all we can do is wait and see if the "Extra Man" monicker is ever used again... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Why is this being deleted? Does the new Stinkoman game confirm that his name is 1up? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:45, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
: I think that must be the reason (watch the intro) - but shouldn't it be a redirect instead? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've fixed this. The article should have been moved, not deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== 20X6 Homestar? ==
Is it really nessecary to say that we used to call him 20X6 Homestar? It's okay to say when he was first officially named, but I don't think the old name is nessecary, as it isn't even related to anything officially H*R, just stuff from the wiki. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:32, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's not even necessary. Changed it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

Why is it when 1-up appears in a toon noone says his name? [[User:Porchi|Porchi]] 02.11.05

== 1-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP ==

I like 1-UP,but how come when I image search"1-up" alls I get are green mushrooms?-BOBLAND

You're the one who made that nonsensical thing on [[Talk:20X6 Coach Z]], right? Well, 1-Ups are "extra lives" in video games, duh. The Mario series makes them look like green mushrooms. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

== SORRY:( ==

Well,I'm sorry.I just don't own a gameboy.:(-BOBLAND
: Or a Ninendo, or a Super Nintendo, or a Nintendo 64, or a Gamecube, or a DS, or... ;) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: pretty much, you never played a game withj mario in it, seen a flash movie of Mario (he usually uses a green mushroom in them), or seen the t-sshirt with it on it , right?

== Evolution ==

Does anyone think whether 1-up has evolved or not? His back-most leg was darkened in [[Under Construction]], but it changed back in [[time_capsule|time capsule]]. I'm not sure whether to say 1-up has evolved or not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
:HALDO anibodi? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

== 1-Up isn't the guy? ==

Didn't 1-Up prove that he cold be the guy on level 5? I never was able to beat this level though. Any thoughts on this?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A curious Runstar Homer]]
:He beat Nebulon, sure, but he then got kidnapped right after. Plus he needed Stinkoman's help in the previous level. He's not quite 'The Guy' material just yet... Maybe when he's older. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::But he did prove that he's not just a kid anymore. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

True. He isn't just a kid, but the only reason he needed Stinkoman's help in Lava Zone is because he had Stinkoman's power crunch. AND because he was stupid enough to take that shortcut. But ''I'' think he's possible "Guy" material. Maybe Stinkoman just wants all the glory for himself.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:That sounds reasonable. Stinkoman ''is'' still an alternate version of Strong Bad, after all. Glory-hogging might fit the personality. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
You can't not be just a kid ''and'' not be the guy. Or can you? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Of course you can. Unless the word man is not a word, apparently, 1-Up is a man, but not "The Guy" yet.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar "not in a fevery haze!" Homer]]

== 1-Up and Pronunciation ==

I've noticed this little peculiarity: Homestar Runner's name is pronounced in his accent "Homestaw Wuh-nohw," and I noticed that when pronouncing 1-Up's name in this voice, it came to be "Wuhn-uhp." This is peculiar because of the ''Wuh-nohw'' and ''Wuhn-uhp'' in the pronunciation in Homestar's accent.

Give that, is it possible that 1-Up's name may have been a grammatical corruption of Runner, and not just the reference to Nintendo Mario games? {{User:DannyDaWriter/sig}}

:Ooh, excellent theory. I'd love to hear what [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] have to say about this. If only they could answer our millions of other [[HRWiki:Questions|questions]] too. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Sun, 05 Feb 2006 02:11:44 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Talk:1-Up

Runstar Homer — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:22:18 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Name ==

When did TBC ever call him "1-up Extra Man"? Someone please provide a link to wherever they said this. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 17:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I've never seen TBC call him that, but "1up" is the entry immediately following "stinkoman" in [http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml weeklies.xml]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:43, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
::I've heard the fact before (a long time ago, in fact); that it is in weeklies.xml confirms it enough for my tastes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
:::Where'd we get extraman from, though? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The games menu calls him "H", not 1-up. --[[User:198.37.16.25|198.37.16.25]] 15:06, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yet it also calls Stinkoman "SB". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

His name is 1-Up. Play the 20X6 game, and you'll see that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:10, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm stumbling upon this conversation months later, but I see that nobody's really answered the question. Why, on the article page, is he called "1-Up the extra man" instead of just "1-Up"? Every time somebody tries to fix it, it gets reverted. The only reference to this I can find is one instance in the Stinkomanual, and that seems more like a throwaway line than anything. Can someone shed some light on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I've heard that he was called "1-Up Extraman" (minus the "the") in an interview, and I heard this LONG prior to 1-Up's official name debut in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Okay, but where is this interview? Is there a transcript available to read? Even supposing it's true, does that make it canon? It seems like "1-Up the extra man" is like saying "Pan Pan the Giant Panda" or "Stinkoman the guy with blue hair". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Frankly, I'm not sure which interview it is. I heard it long before Stinkoman (the game) came out, but second-hand. Still, it fits what is in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Meh, it fits, sort of, but I still don't see how that isolated, [[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]-style reference elevates "the extra man" to be part of his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: You did not read my post, did you? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Anyway, [http://www.giantmag.com/help/framesetHandler.html?/issue_05/ft_homestar.php this] was the best that I could find, though I'm not sure it's the right interview (it refers to 1-Up by both names.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Didn't read your post? What? This coming from the person who doesn't read my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts&diff=93780&oldid=93772 STUFF votes]?   ;)
::::::: I said that because I was talking about an interview, and you were still talking about the Stinkomanual. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: When I said "it fits, sort of", I was referring to the interview. My wording was awkward, because I moved on to the Stinkomanual without a good transition, and that was confusing. Still, it's a silly question to ask somebody if they read your post. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: My apologies. I had trouble trying to figure out what you were saying - because, yeah, the wording was kinda awkward. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::: Seriously, I read your post (and that interview), but maybe I was unclear, so I'll spell it out: Mike saying "It’s either Extra Man or One Up" fits with the line in the Stinkomanual; that is, I can see how the former inspired the latter, but I what I don't get is how an obscure, non-canon interview combined with an intentionally poorly written, uncapitalized, throwaway reference in the manual makes 1-Up's name anything more than "1-Up". I say uncapitalized because if the manual read, "1up the Extra Man", I could accept it as part of the name, but I think it's just a description—if 1-Up weren't getting in the way on that level, Stinkoman wouldn't have to protect him. He's literally an extra man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Like I said, I don't think that was really the interview in question (I'm pretty sure the "1-Up Extraman" thing predates many things mentioned in that article - for instance, The Cheat Commandos.) It was just the best I could find. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: That's kinda my point. We don't really have enough to go on. If this were a fun fact, "the extra man" would be declined with severe prejudice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I still say I've heard it before, long predating the game and likely predating that interview. It would've been nice if TBC had just come out and admitted the character's name in the first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Maybe you think I don't believe that the interview is out there somewhere. That's not the case at all. I've looked through the page's history, and there were references to "Extraman" way before the debut of the Stinkogame. So I don't doubt for a second that TBC were considering giving 1-Up a different name. What I'm saying is, even if they ''were'' considering this, they ultimately chose "1-Up", and the isolated "extra man" bit in the manual is just a gag. Here's an analogy: at one point, they were going to make the KOT be Marzipan's father. Heck, you can even still find this on the [[HR:charactersold.html|official site]]. But they have clearly abandoned this idea, and it is not considered canon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I see where you're coming from. I suppose all we can do is wait and see if the "Extra Man" monicker is ever used again... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Why is this being deleted? Does the new Stinkoman game confirm that his name is 1up? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:45, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
: I think that must be the reason (watch the intro) - but shouldn't it be a redirect instead? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've fixed this. The article should have been moved, not deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== 20X6 Homestar? ==
Is it really nessecary to say that we used to call him 20X6 Homestar? It's okay to say when he was first officially named, but I don't think the old name is nessecary, as it isn't even related to anything officially H*R, just stuff from the wiki. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:32, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's not even necessary. Changed it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

== 1-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP ==

I like 1-UP,but how come when I image search"1-up" alls I get are green mushrooms?-BOBLAND

You're the one who made that nonsensical thing on [[Talk:20X6 Coach Z]], right? Well, 1-Ups are "extra lives" in video games, duh. The Mario series makes them look like green mushrooms. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

== SORRY:( ==

Well,I'm sorry.I just don't own a gameboy.:(-BOBLAND
: Or a Ninendo, or a Super Nintendo, or a Nintendo 64, or a Gamecube, or a DS, or... ;) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Does anyone think whether 1-up has evolved or not? His back most leg was darkened in [[Under_Construction|Under Coonstruction]], but it changed back in [[time_capsule|time capsule]]. I'm not sure whether to say 1-up has evolved or not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

== 1-Up isn't the guy? ==

Didn't 1-Up prove that he cold be the guy on level 5? I never was able to beat this level though. Any thoughts on this?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A curious Runstar Homer]]
:He beat Nebulon, sure, but he then got kidnapped right after. Plus he needed Stinkoman's help in the previous level. He's not quite 'The Guy' material just yet... Maybe when he's older. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::But he did prove that he's not just a kid anymore. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

True. He isn't just a kid, but the only reason he needed Stinkoman's help in Lava Zone is because he had Stinkoman's power crunch. AND because he was stupid enough to take that shortcut. But ''I'' think he's possible "Guy" material. Maybe Stinkoman just wants all the glory for himself.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

Talk:1-Up

Runstar Homer — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:21:40 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Name ==

When did TBC ever call him "1-up Extra Man"? Someone please provide a link to wherever they said this. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 17:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I've never seen TBC call him that, but "1up" is the entry immediately following "stinkoman" in [http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml weeklies.xml]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:43, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
::I've heard the fact before (a long time ago, in fact); that it is in weeklies.xml confirms it enough for my tastes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
:::Where'd we get extraman from, though? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The games menu calls him "H", not 1-up. --[[User:198.37.16.25|198.37.16.25]] 15:06, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yet it also calls Stinkoman "SB". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

His name is 1-Up. Play the 20X6 game, and you'll see that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:10, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm stumbling upon this conversation months later, but I see that nobody's really answered the question. Why, on the article page, is he called "1-Up the extra man" instead of just "1-Up"? Every time somebody tries to fix it, it gets reverted. The only reference to this I can find is one instance in the Stinkomanual, and that seems more like a throwaway line than anything. Can someone shed some light on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I've heard that he was called "1-Up Extraman" (minus the "the") in an interview, and I heard this LONG prior to 1-Up's official name debut in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Okay, but where is this interview? Is there a transcript available to read? Even supposing it's true, does that make it canon? It seems like "1-Up the extra man" is like saying "Pan Pan the Giant Panda" or "Stinkoman the guy with blue hair". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Frankly, I'm not sure which interview it is. I heard it long before Stinkoman (the game) came out, but second-hand. Still, it fits what is in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Meh, it fits, sort of, but I still don't see how that isolated, [[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]-style reference elevates "the extra man" to be part of his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: You did not read my post, did you? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Anyway, [http://www.giantmag.com/help/framesetHandler.html?/issue_05/ft_homestar.php this] was the best that I could find, though I'm not sure it's the right interview (it refers to 1-Up by both names.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Didn't read your post? What? This coming from the person who doesn't read my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts&diff=93780&oldid=93772 STUFF votes]?   ;)
::::::: I said that because I was talking about an interview, and you were still talking about the Stinkomanual. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: When I said "it fits, sort of", I was referring to the interview. My wording was awkward, because I moved on to the Stinkomanual without a good transition, and that was confusing. Still, it's a silly question to ask somebody if they read your post. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: My apologies. I had trouble trying to figure out what you were saying - because, yeah, the wording was kinda awkward. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::: Seriously, I read your post (and that interview), but maybe I was unclear, so I'll spell it out: Mike saying "It’s either Extra Man or One Up" fits with the line in the Stinkomanual; that is, I can see how the former inspired the latter, but I what I don't get is how an obscure, non-canon interview combined with an intentionally poorly written, uncapitalized, throwaway reference in the manual makes 1-Up's name anything more than "1-Up". I say uncapitalized because if the manual read, "1up the Extra Man", I could accept it as part of the name, but I think it's just a description—if 1-Up weren't getting in the way on that level, Stinkoman wouldn't have to protect him. He's literally an extra man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Like I said, I don't think that was really the interview in question (I'm pretty sure the "1-Up Extraman" thing predates many things mentioned in that article - for instance, The Cheat Commandos.) It was just the best I could find. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: That's kinda my point. We don't really have enough to go on. If this were a fun fact, "the extra man" would be declined with severe prejudice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I still say I've heard it before, long predating the game and likely predating that interview. It would've been nice if TBC had just come out and admitted the character's name in the first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Maybe you think I don't believe that the interview is out there somewhere. That's not the case at all. I've looked through the page's history, and there were references to "Extraman" way before the debut of the Stinkogame. So I don't doubt for a second that TBC were considering giving 1-Up a different name. What I'm saying is, even if they ''were'' considering this, they ultimately chose "1-Up", and the isolated "extra man" bit in the manual is just a gag. Here's an analogy: at one point, they were going to make the KOT be Marzipan's father. Heck, you can even still find this on the [[HR:charactersold.html|official site]]. But they have clearly abandoned this idea, and it is not considered canon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I see where you're coming from. I suppose all we can do is wait and see if the "Extra Man" monicker is ever used again... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Why is this being deleted? Does the new Stinkoman game confirm that his name is 1up? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:45, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
: I think that must be the reason (watch the intro) - but shouldn't it be a redirect instead? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've fixed this. The article should have been moved, not deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== 20X6 Homestar? ==
Is it really nessecary to say that we used to call him 20X6 Homestar? It's okay to say when he was first officially named, but I don't think the old name is nessecary, as it isn't even related to anything officially H*R, just stuff from the wiki. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:32, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's not even necessary. Changed it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

== 1-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP ==

I like 1-UP,but how come when I image search"1-up" alls I get are green mushrooms?-BOBLAND

You're the one who made that nonsensical thing on [[Talk:20X6 Coach Z]], right? Well, 1-Ups are "extra lives" in video games, duh. The Mario series makes them look like green mushrooms. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

== SORRY:( ==

Well,I'm sorry.I just don't own a gameboy.:(-BOBLAND
: Or a Ninendo, or a Super Nintendo, or a Nintendo 64, or a Gamecube, or a DS, or... ;) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Does anyone think whether 1-up has evolved or not? His back most leg was darkened in [[Under_Construction|Under Coonstruction]], but it changed back in [[time_capsule|time capsule]]. I'm not sure whether to say 1-up has evolved or not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

== 1-Up isn't the guy? ==

Didn't 1-Up prove that he cold be the guy on level 5? I never was able to beat this level though. Any thoughts on this?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A curious Runstar Homer]]
:He beat Nebulon, sure, but he then got kidnapped right after. Plus he needed Stinkoman's help in the previous level. He's not quite 'The Guy' material just yet... Maybe when he's older. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::But he did prove that he's not just a kid anymore. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

True. He isn't just a kid, but the only reason he needed Stinkoman's help in Lava Zone is because he had Stinkoman's power crunch. AND because he was stupid enough to take that shortcut. But ''I'' think he's possible "Guy" material. Maybe Stinkoman just wants all the glory for himself.

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:17:17 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/21/everybody-poster.PNG
Sooooooooooooooooooo...

I like Homsar. Yeah, yeah, he says completely nosensical, inane stuff, and he's a little hard to understand (had to watch his character video 5 times to get it all!) but hey, that's why he's so great! Right, Wonder Mike?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, lets see. I'm obsessed with lists (one reson I'm really bad at keeping a journal!) so here you go:

1. Real name: Nicki

2. Current age: 14 (It's true)

3. Favorite website: hrwiki.com or mortisland.com

4. Area of expertise: Nintendo games

5. Favorite sayings: "Cool tapes" and "Zelda is hot" (phrases like "code blue" are cool too)

6. Friends: Anybody who likes Homsar!

7. Fiercest Enemies: "Homsar Haters" and "Little Link Haters"

8. School: Homstead High

So there you have it. What I can think of right now. Bye!

Right. If anybody wants to edit this (like because of mispellings or other random crap) that's completly fine. Just so you know.
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Hey! Hey! Hey! (I just love to say that.) Right. This page should probably be kept short, but I'd love it if my talk page could grow.

Talk:Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?

Runstar Homer — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:10:34 GMT

Runstar Homer: Shrinky Hat

== Shrinky Hat ==

If you watch closely, Homsar's hat shrinks while he's saying that he's a trendy totebag. The only other time I've seen it change was in his character video.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:04:53 GMT

Runstar Homer:

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:04:26 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/21/everybody-poster.PNG -I thought this was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO cool.

Sooooooooooooooooooo...

I like Homsar. Yeah, yeah, he says completely nosensical, inane stuff, and he's a little hard to understand (had to watch his character video 5 times to get it all!) but hey, that's why he's so great! Right, Wonder Mike?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, lets see. I'm obsessed with lists (one reson I'm really bad at keeping a journal!) so here you go:

1. Real name: Nicki

2. Current age: 14 (It's true)

3. Favorite website: hrwiki.com or mortisland.com

4. Area of expertise: Nintendo games

5. Favorite sayings: "Cool tapes" and "Zelda is hot" (phrases like "code blue" are cool too)

6. Friends: Anybody who likes Homsar!

7. Fiercest Enemies: "Homsar Haters" and "Little Link Haters"

8. School: Homstead High

So there you have it. What I can think of right now. Bye!

Right. If anybody wants to edit this (like because of mispellings or other random crap) that's completly fine. Just so you know.

Talk:Can of Water Soup

Runstar Homer — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:36:35 GMT

Runstar Homer:

==Delete?==
This page is extremely unnecessary. I really, really want to delete it. Objections? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:42, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

None here...delete away! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Why would you consider the page unnecessary? The Can of Water Soup is a big part of 1936 toons. I say keep it. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:22, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand how you define "big part" but to me a minor prop that gets mentioned once and noone would probably care to look at a page at is not considered "big". I would fail to see how this article fits onto the wiki. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:26, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

What is anyone gonna learn from it? Once we see more 1936 toons, we'll decide if it's important [[User:Alice|Alice]]

It does add completeness to the list of foods and drinks. Homestar does kick cans enought to be a bit of a running gag. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 13:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

a lot of pages are like this one (jack hamma comes to mind) so if your gonna delete this one delete the other stupid pages as well

Let's all consider it...BALEETED! Oops, I mean DELETED! --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 03:02, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==add explanation==
we should maybe put somthing about how the soup is a refernce to how duriong the depression people had to eat what they could find....just because we need to ad somthing to this page to make it simi-informative

You're technically defacing the wiki by typing like that. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

I agree. It IS defacing. Technically.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

Talk:Modestly Hot Homsar

Runstar Homer — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:21 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Where did Homsar ever appear in [[flashback]]!? --[[User:Whaddaya Know Haddi-man?|Whaddaya Know Haddi-man?]] 11:04, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Discount Flashback Warehouse.--[[User:198.37.16.36|198.37.16.36]] 11:13, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

I can only say three words about this idea: sick and wrong.

I just realized, Modestly Hot Homsar's hat doesn't return to her head. I guess Homsar loses the ability as a woman...

==Move and redirect?==
I just added MHH to [[Minor Alternate Versions#Other|Minor Alternate Versions]]. Should the content of this page be moved there as well? The only thing that stopped me was the sketchbook image. Could that be linked from the variations page and this article redirected? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:26, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Strong Glad's Cousin? ==

You know, Modestly Hot Homsar IS sick and wrong, but funny. Plus, she kinda looks like Strong Glad. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... maybe I should add strong glad to Minor variations.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

Talk:Modestly Hot Homsar

Runstar Homer — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:07:56 GMT

Runstar Homer: Strong Glad's Cousin?

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:35:45 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
http://www.electric969.com/images/homestarrunner.jpg

Sooooooooooooooooooo...

I like Homsar. Yeah, yeah, he says completely nosensical, inane stuff, and he's a little hard to understand (had to watch his character video 5 times to get it all!) but hey, that's why he's so great! Right, Wonder Mike?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, lets see. I'm obsessed with lists (one reson I'm really bad at keeping a journal!) so here you go:

1. Real name: Nicki

2. Current age: 14 (It's true)

3. Favorite website: hrwiki.com or mortisland.com

4. Area of expertise: Nintendo games

5. Favorite sayings: "Cool tapes" and "Zelda is hot" (phrases like "code blue" are cool too)

6. Friends: Anybody who likes Homsar!

7. Fiercest Enemies: "Homsar Haters" and "Little Link Haters"

8. School: Homstead High

So there you have it. What I can think of right now. Bye!

Right. If anybody wants to edit this (like because of mispellings or other random crap) that's completly fine. Just so you know.

User talk:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:33:48 GMT

Runstar Homer: No Rejects?

Talk:Z Sabre

Runstar Homer — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:04:43 GMT

Runstar Homer: Shadow Coach Z?

Talk:Marzi-Mei

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:33:05 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Talk:1-Up

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:26:41 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Name ==

When did TBC ever call him "1-up Extra Man"? Someone please provide a link to wherever they said this. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 17:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I've never seen TBC call him that, but "1up" is the entry immediately following "stinkoman" in [http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml weeklies.xml]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:43, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
::I've heard the fact before (a long time ago, in fact); that it is in weeklies.xml confirms it enough for my tastes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
:::Where'd we get extraman from, though? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The games menu calls him "H", not 1-up. --[[User:198.37.16.25|198.37.16.25]] 15:06, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yet it also calls Stinkoman "SB". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

His name is 1-Up. Play the 20X6 game, and you'll see that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:10, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm stumbling upon this conversation months later, but I see that nobody's really answered the question. Why, on the article page, is he called "1-Up the extra man" instead of just "1-Up"? Every time somebody tries to fix it, it gets reverted. The only reference to this I can find is one instance in the Stinkomanual, and that seems more like a throwaway line than anything. Can someone shed some light on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I've heard that he was called "1-Up Extraman" (minus the "the") in an interview, and I heard this LONG prior to 1-Up's official name debut in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Okay, but where is this interview? Is there a transcript available to read? Even supposing it's true, does that make it canon? It seems like "1-Up the extra man" is like saying "Pan Pan the Giant Panda" or "Stinkoman the guy with blue hair". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Frankly, I'm not sure which interview it is. I heard it long before Stinkoman (the game) came out, but second-hand. Still, it fits what is in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Meh, it fits, sort of, but I still don't see how that isolated, [[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]-style reference elevates "the extra man" to be part of his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: You did not read my post, did you? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Anyway, [http://www.giantmag.com/help/framesetHandler.html?/issue_05/ft_homestar.php this] was the best that I could find, though I'm not sure it's the right interview (it refers to 1-Up by both names.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Didn't read your post? What? This coming from the person who doesn't read my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts&diff=93780&oldid=93772 STUFF votes]?   ;)
::::::: I said that because I was talking about an interview, and you were still talking about the Stinkomanual. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: When I said "it fits, sort of", I was referring to the interview. My wording was awkward, because I moved on to the Stinkomanual without a good transition, and that was confusing. Still, it's a silly question to ask somebody if they read your post. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: My apologies. I had trouble trying to figure out what you were saying - because, yeah, the wording was kinda awkward. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::: Seriously, I read your post (and that interview), but maybe I was unclear, so I'll spell it out: Mike saying "It’s either Extra Man or One Up" fits with the line in the Stinkomanual; that is, I can see how the former inspired the latter, but I what I don't get is how an obscure, non-canon interview combined with an intentionally poorly written, uncapitalized, throwaway reference in the manual makes 1-Up's name anything more than "1-Up". I say uncapitalized because if the manual read, "1up the Extra Man", I could accept it as part of the name, but I think it's just a description—if 1-Up weren't getting in the way on that level, Stinkoman wouldn't have to protect him. He's literally an extra man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Like I said, I don't think that was really the interview in question (I'm pretty sure the "1-Up Extraman" thing predates many things mentioned in that article - for instance, The Cheat Commandos.) It was just the best I could find. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: That's kinda my point. We don't really have enough to go on. If this were a fun fact, "the extra man" would be declined with severe prejudice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I still say I've heard it before, long predating the game and likely predating that interview. It would've been nice if TBC had just come out and admitted the character's name in the first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Maybe you think I don't believe that the interview is out there somewhere. That's not the case at all. I've looked through the page's history, and there were references to "Extraman" way before the debut of the Stinkogame. So I don't doubt for a second that TBC were considering giving 1-Up a different name. What I'm saying is, even if they ''were'' considering this, they ultimately chose "1-Up", and the isolated "extra man" bit in the manual is just a gag. Here's an analogy: at one point, they were going to make the KOT be Marzipan's father. Heck, you can even still find this on the [[HR:charactersold.html|official site]]. But they have clearly abandoned this idea, and it is not considered canon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I see where you're coming from. I suppose all we can do is wait and see if the "Extra Man" monicker is ever used again... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Why is this being deleted? Does the new Stinkoman game confirm that his name is 1up? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:45, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
: I think that must be the reason (watch the intro) - but shouldn't it be a redirect instead? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've fixed this. The article should have been moved, not deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== 20X6 Homestar? ==
Is it really nessecary to say that we used to call him 20X6 Homestar? It's okay to say when he was first officially named, but I don't think the old name is nessecary, as it isn't even related to anything officially H*R, just stuff from the wiki. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:32, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's not even necessary. Changed it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

== 1-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP ==

I like 1-UP,but how come when I image search"1-up" alls I get are green mushrooms?-BOBLAND

You're the one who made that nonsensical thing on [[Talk:20X6 Coach Z]], right? Well, 1-Ups are "extra lives" in video games, duh. The Mario series makes them look like green mushrooms. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

== SORRY:( ==

Well,I'm sorry.I just don't own a gameboy.:(-BOBLAND
: Or a Ninendo, or a Super Nintendo, or a Nintendo 64, or a Gamecube, or a DS, or... ;) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Does anyone think whether 1-up has evolved or not? His back most leg was darkened in [[Under_Construction|Under Coonstruction]], but it changed back in [[time_capsule|time capsule]]. I'm not sure whether to say 1-up has evolved or not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

== 1-Up isn't the guy? ==

Didn't 1-Up prove that he cold be the guy on level 5? I never was able to beat this level though. Any thoughts on this?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A curious Runstar Homer]]

Talk:1-Up

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:25:56 GMT

Runstar Homer: 1-Up isn't the guy?

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Name ==

When did TBC ever call him "1-up Extra Man"? Someone please provide a link to wherever they said this. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 17:47, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I've never seen TBC call him that, but "1up" is the entry immediately following "stinkoman" in [http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml weeklies.xml]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:43, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
::I've heard the fact before (a long time ago, in fact); that it is in weeklies.xml confirms it enough for my tastes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
:::Where'd we get extraman from, though? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The games menu calls him "H", not 1-up. --[[User:198.37.16.25|198.37.16.25]] 15:06, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yet it also calls Stinkoman "SB". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

His name is 1-Up. Play the 20X6 game, and you'll see that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:10, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm stumbling upon this conversation months later, but I see that nobody's really answered the question. Why, on the article page, is he called "1-Up the extra man" instead of just "1-Up"? Every time somebody tries to fix it, it gets reverted. The only reference to this I can find is one instance in the Stinkomanual, and that seems more like a throwaway line than anything. Can someone shed some light on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I've heard that he was called "1-Up Extraman" (minus the "the") in an interview, and I heard this LONG prior to 1-Up's official name debut in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Okay, but where is this interview? Is there a transcript available to read? Even supposing it's true, does that make it canon? It seems like "1-Up the extra man" is like saying "Pan Pan the Giant Panda" or "Stinkoman the guy with blue hair". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Frankly, I'm not sure which interview it is. I heard it long before Stinkoman (the game) came out, but second-hand. Still, it fits what is in this game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Meh, it fits, sort of, but I still don't see how that isolated, [[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]-style reference elevates "the extra man" to be part of his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: You did not read my post, did you? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Anyway, [http://www.giantmag.com/help/framesetHandler.html?/issue_05/ft_homestar.php this] was the best that I could find, though I'm not sure it's the right interview (it refers to 1-Up by both names.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Didn't read your post? What? This coming from the person who doesn't read my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts&diff=93780&oldid=93772 STUFF votes]?   ;)
::::::: I said that because I was talking about an interview, and you were still talking about the Stinkomanual. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: When I said "it fits, sort of", I was referring to the interview. My wording was awkward, because I moved on to the Stinkomanual without a good transition, and that was confusing. Still, it's a silly question to ask somebody if they read your post. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: My apologies. I had trouble trying to figure out what you were saying - because, yeah, the wording was kinda awkward. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::: Seriously, I read your post (and that interview), but maybe I was unclear, so I'll spell it out: Mike saying "It’s either Extra Man or One Up" fits with the line in the Stinkomanual; that is, I can see how the former inspired the latter, but I what I don't get is how an obscure, non-canon interview combined with an intentionally poorly written, uncapitalized, throwaway reference in the manual makes 1-Up's name anything more than "1-Up". I say uncapitalized because if the manual read, "1up the Extra Man", I could accept it as part of the name, but I think it's just a description—if 1-Up weren't getting in the way on that level, Stinkoman wouldn't have to protect him. He's literally an extra man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Like I said, I don't think that was really the interview in question (I'm pretty sure the "1-Up Extraman" thing predates many things mentioned in that article - for instance, The Cheat Commandos.) It was just the best I could find. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:51, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: That's kinda my point. We don't really have enough to go on. If this were a fun fact, "the extra man" would be declined with severe prejudice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::: I still say I've heard it before, long predating the game and likely predating that interview. It would've been nice if TBC had just come out and admitted the character's name in the first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::: Maybe you think I don't believe that the interview is out there somewhere. That's not the case at all. I've looked through the page's history, and there were references to "Extraman" way before the debut of the Stinkogame. So I don't doubt for a second that TBC were considering giving 1-Up a different name. What I'm saying is, even if they ''were'' considering this, they ultimately chose "1-Up", and the isolated "extra man" bit in the manual is just a gag. Here's an analogy: at one point, they were going to make the KOT be Marzipan's father. Heck, you can even still find this on the [[HR:charactersold.html|official site]]. But they have clearly abandoned this idea, and it is not considered canon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I see where you're coming from. I suppose all we can do is wait and see if the "Extra Man" monicker is ever used again... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Why is this being deleted? Does the new Stinkoman game confirm that his name is 1up? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:45, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
: I think that must be the reason (watch the intro) - but shouldn't it be a redirect instead? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've fixed this. The article should have been moved, not deleted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== 20X6 Homestar? ==
Is it really nessecary to say that we used to call him 20X6 Homestar? It's okay to say when he was first officially named, but I don't think the old name is nessecary, as it isn't even related to anything officially H*R, just stuff from the wiki. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:32, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

It's not even necessary. Changed it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

== 1-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP-UP ==

I like 1-UP,but how come when I image search"1-up" alls I get are green mushrooms?-BOBLAND

You're the one who made that nonsensical thing on [[Talk:20X6 Coach Z]], right? Well, 1-Ups are "extra lives" in video games, duh. The Mario series makes them look like green mushrooms. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

== SORRY:( ==

Well,I'm sorry.I just don't own a gameboy.:(-BOBLAND
: Or a Ninendo, or a Super Nintendo, or a Nintendo 64, or a Gamecube, or a DS, or... ;) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Does anyone think whether 1-up has evolved or not? His back most leg was darkened in [[Under_Construction|Under Coonstruction]], but it changed back in [[time_capsule|time capsule]]. I'm not sure whether to say 1-up has evolved or not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

== 1-Up isn't the guy? ==

I thought 1-Up proved that he cold be the guy on level 5? I never was able to beat this level though? Any thoughts on this?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A curious Runstar Homer]]

Talk:Sticklyman

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:20:50 GMT

Runstar Homer:

How can Stickly Man ''not'' be the Poopsmith? Granted that he's not drawn in the style of the other 20x6 characters, but he doesn't talk, he's got a shovel, and there's an obvious comedic moment when Stinkoman takes a mouthful of whatever it is in that pile and you don't know for sure that it isn't poop. If it isn't the 20x6 version of the Poopsmith, it's certainly some other elseworlds version of the Poopsmith. Until another 20x6 Poopsmith steps forward, I would consider Stickly Man to be the 20x6 Poopsmith. Thoughts? [[User:Render|Render]]

:I have to agree with Render here. Now nobody but the [[The Brothers Chaps|creators]] really know for sure, but there definitely are some clues that suggest what the stickly man is shoveling may be more than just dirt. Sure, this man/logo appears on nearly every one of the countless "under construction" animated GIFs one sees on those surely-never-to-be-completed user webpages from like 1998. I'm just saying it's being pretty bold to go out and say "Stickly man''' is not''' a reference to the poopsmith", without backing this up with facts... (Saying it's not a "The Poopsmith" reference simply because it also appears on many other web pages isn't enough, wouldn't we agree?). --[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:00, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

:You can believe what you like, but don't go saying that Stickly Man is ''definitely'' The Poopsmith just because it's possible. We should all wait until it is confirmed whether or not this is true before saying it is for certain. [[User: Ogog|Ogog]]

::I think it's fair to say that there are definitely parallels, but waiting for official confirmation is prudent. Of course, this wiki is full of wild speculation anyway. [[User:Render|Render]]

I think Stickly Man ''is'' the 20X6 version of The Poopsmith. Kinda makes you wonder if maybe what The Poopsmith shovels isn't actually what it seems like it is...-[[User:Shopiom|Shopiom]] 11:44, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)
:Well, he ''did'' serve it up to the King of Town... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I don't think you can really say Sticklyman is the 20X6 Poopsmith yet, since he's only appeared in one thing so far and it doesn't look like he will be showing up again. The only real similarity he has with the Poopsmith is having a shovel, and not enough evidence. It would be like saying that the [[King of Peasantry]] is based on the [[King of Town]] because they are both kings. What Sticklyman is digging is not poop (At least not in the "dub" version...), nobody makes any reference to the possibility that it is poop in the cartoon, and there's nothing that even implies this other than the assumption that Sticklyman is 20X6 Poopsmith. And not talking doesn't mean anything, for three reasons:
1. not every character in a cartoon has to have lines. [[Ripberger]] has never had lines, does that mean he's a reference to the Poopsmith?
2. The fight scene is ripped off from Ninja Gaiden, and in that scene neither character talks (except for the "..."). The only opportunity for Sticklyman to talk would have been after Stinkoman asked if he was asking for a challenge. One silent moment isn't equivalent to an entire vow.
3. Can YOU imagine what that guy's voice would sound like? I can't.
Oh, and one final reason Sticklyman probably isn't 20X6 Poopsmith: If he's the 20X6 Poopsmith, where's the 20X6 KOT?! [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 18:31, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Well put. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]
== Xiao Xiao ==

Well this isn't all too relavent to the Sticklyman/The Poopsmith conversation but I thought Sticklyman might be an allusion to Xiao Xiao as seen on AlbinoBlackSheep.com under the stick figure flash files. But it's likely that [[The Brothers Chaps]] didn't intend for this to be anything like Xiao Xiao. To watch this series, go to AlbinoBlackSheep.com or Xiaoxiaomovie.com.

== Come ON, people. ==

I really don't see how the possession of a shovel makes this guy another version of the Poopsmith. He's simply a reference to countless street signs, and "under construction" animated gifs on websites of old. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 21:47, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I agree. He bears no reference to the present-day Smith, except the shovel. A single prop isn't a lot. Also, I don't think the Poopsmith is that agile. (But that isn't a good reason, because look at Strong Bad, compared to "svelt, young" Stinkoman?) --[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds|Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]]

I agree too. If there was a stick person universe on H*R like 1936 and 20X6 I might agree with that, but how can he be 20X6 if he isn't even anime or futuristic? I mean, that's like saying that those buildings in the background of the 20X6 field is the equivelent of the sky. --[[User:im a evil wizard|im a evil wizard]]

Indeed. Just look at present-day Poopsmith and 1936 The Devil. All they're capable is poking at stuff. Stickly Man is able to fight and challenge. In closing, I'm still not creating an account for this wiki. --24.6.162.60

So WHAT? Is Strong Bad able to fight and challenge in regular time? NO! Is the Poopsmith able to talk? NO! Also, the Poopsmith DOES shovel the poop in his character video AND in three-time halloween funjob! Answer to that, smart guy!!! So, why don't '''YOU''' come on?-[[User:Runstar Homer|A VERY ticked off Runstar Homer]]

I still believe that this is a reference to the Poopsmith, but this is obviously not the 20X6 Poopsmith. Has anyone considered that it could just be stick figure version, and have nothing to do with the 20X6 world?

I agree with all said here. I can't even imagine how this came up for debate in the first place. --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

::Why would this not be 20X6 Poopsmith, when this is a [[20X6]] toon? {{User:FireBird/sig}}

I don't think it is necessarily a 20X6 cartoon. I think it's more an example of Stinko-Man being in an unusual situation, i.e. the Working sign that shows up at so many websites. And I think they saw the opportunity to make the worker character look like the Poopsmith. But that doesn't make him the 20X6 version of the Poopsmith.-Dr Pepper MD

Exactly - to say that Sticklyman is the Poopsmith 20x6 equivalent detracts from the intended humour by making a one-off joke needlessly ambiguous. From a pedantic point of view, Stickly Man doesn't qualify as a 20x6 character because he is not drawn in an anime style and does not originate from a 20x6 setting. -Grover Junior

Right.You don't see someone like strong sad walking through these 20x6 toons.-BOBLAND

(some other guy)--stick poeple are so generic that they can be just about anybody.--

== I know the truth ==

Sticklyman is NOT the 20x6 Poopsmith. I went to see the Brothers Chaps live and asked them. He is just a little stick figure who Stinkoman killed.

Hmmm if thats not reliable I dunno what is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]
: Is there any need, then, for the article to note that some people think he is the 20x6 counterpart of the Poopsmith?- Grover Junior
Look at The Poopsmith Discussion Page for why it wasn't removed (Coughunreleablenonamemakingupcrapcough)[[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

are you guys REALLY gonna believe this guy? he's obviusly lieing!-[[User:Timmy!]]
== Puddingsmith? ==

Why do you guys keeps removing the neutrally of Stickly Man's occupation? So what if Stinkoman, 1-Up and Pan Pan think Stickly Man shovels pudding? Strong Bad says he's a ladies man, but is that necessary true? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:22, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:What evidence is there that it ''isn't'' pudding? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What DorianGray said. There's plenty of good evidence that Strong Bad isn't a ladies man, but what reason is there to think that Stinkoman's lying about the pudding? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::What Dorian and Amanda said. Absent evidence to the contrary, we have to assume Stinkoman can correctly identify what is pudding. My ''two-year-old'' cousin can correctly identify what is and isn't pudding. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Sticklyman or Stickly Man ==
His name is never actually spelled. I think "Sticklyman" looks better than Stickly Man, and goes along with "Stinkoman" better. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
:Um... hello? I need feedback or else I'll just change it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 14:22, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I agree--after listening to [[Under_Construction]], when Stinkoman says "Sticklyman," it sounds like one word. [[User:Trey56|Trey56]] 15:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think it looks fine as it is now (as two words instead of a compound word). I also listened to [[Under Construction]]. There is already a redirect at [[Sticklyman]]. But if you want to change it to match the compound word Stinkoman, go right ahead. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:34, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I can't seem to move it over the redirect... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:05, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Marzi-Mei

Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:13:12 GMT

Runstar Homer:

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Runstar Homer — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:07:28 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!

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You can hang out and talk here or whatever.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]

Talk:Marzi-Mei

Runstar Homer — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:33:55 GMT

Runstar Homer: Ticked Off

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:35:41 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
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Sooooooooooooooooooo...

I like Homsar. Yeah, yeah, he says completely nosensical, inane stuff, and he's a little hard to understand (had to watch his character video 5 times to get it all!) but hey, that's why he's so great! Right, Wonder Mike?
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Well, lets see. I'm obsessed with lists (one reson I'm really bad at keeping a journal!) so here you go:

1. Real name: Nicki

2. Current age: 14 (It's true)

3. Favorite website: hrwiki.com or mortisland.com

4. Area of expertise: Nintendo games

5. Favorite sayings: Cool tapes and Zelda is hot (phrases like "code blue" are cool)

6. Friends: Anybody who likes Homsar!

7. Fiercest Enemies: "Homsar Haters" and "Little Link Haters"

8. School: Homstead High

So there you have it. What I can think of right now. Bye!

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:35:17 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
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Sooooooooooooooooooo...

I like Homsar. Yeah, yeah, he says completely nosensical, inane stuff, and he's a little hard to understand (had to watch his character video 5 times to get it all!) but hey, that's why he's so great! Right, Wonder Mike?
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Well, lets see. I'm obsessed with lists (one reson I'm really bad at keeping a journal!) so here you go:

1. Real name: Nicki
2. Current age: 14 (It's true)
3. Favorite website: hrwiki.com or mortisland.com
4. Area of expertise: Nintendo games
5. Favorite sayings: Cool tapes and Zelda is hot (phrases like "code blue" are cool)
6. Friends: Anybody who likes Homsar!
7. Fiercest Enemies: "Homsar Haters" and "Little Link Haters"
8. School: Homstead High
So there you have it. What I can think of right now. Bye!

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:25:33 GMT

Runstar Homer:

User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:23:18 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
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User:Runstar Homer

Runstar Homer — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:22:54 GMT

Runstar Homer:

Hey Everybody!
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