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User:SamFisher1022

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:59:45 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Quotes */

=='''''Welcome to my user page!!'''''==

{{User:SamFisher1022/sig}}

Hey there evvybody! I'm SamFisher1022, as you might have guessed. Around here, I'm a pretty big Recent Changes junkie, and I'm a major contributor to the [[HRWiki:Article cleanup|Article cleanup]] project. On some of the slower days, I hang around the #hrwiki freenode channel, or just [[from work|log off/out]] and play video games. Yoink!

{{User:SamFisher1022/navigation}}

{{User:SamFisher1022/userbox}}

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===Hobbies===
*I love video games. (Don't we all?) One of my favorite video game series is [[Wikipedia:Fire Emblem|Fire Emblem]].
*Programming. Not like ''professional'' programming, but things like making movie trailers on my computer and little games on TI calculators.
*Homestar Runner, obviously.
*Cinnamon rolls. They're freakin' awesome.
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===Favorites===
*Favorite Characters: [[The Cheat]], [[Homsar]]
*Favorite Toons/Shorts: [[DNA Evidence]], [[Blubb-O's Commercial]]
*Favorite Strong Bad Emails: [[long pants]], [[pop-up]], [[mini-golf]], [[technology]], [[theme park]], [[rampage]]
*Favorite Quotes:
:([[Drive-Thru]]) '''DRIVE-THRU WHALE''': $9.17, sever your leg please, sir.
:([[pop-up]]) '''STRONG BAD''': Clearly, this pop-up book is a source of unspeakable power.
:([[rampage]]) '''STRONG SAD''': I dunno, drop some beats or something.
:([[Rap Song]]) '''COACH Z''': Oh, dag, that man has just ordered breakfast in the middle of my rap song!
:([[diorama]]) '''ANNOUNCER''': All new 2008 Air Cardgage! Only 249.99.99.99!
:([[Blubb-O's Commercial]]) '''DRIVE-THRU WHALE''': You are living a lie. Would you like cash back?
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===Major Contribs===
*'''Created pages:'''
#[[A Splode]] --with help from [[User:The Joe|The Joe]], [[User:Venusy|Venusy]], and [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]].
#[[ASCII art]] --with help from [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] and [[User:Phlip|Phlip]]
#[[Template:noname]] --modified by [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
#[[Template:cl]] --modified by that guy ^
#Complete filmographies for all [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] characters. --with some help from [[User:Shwoo|Shwoo]], [[User:Sam the Man|Sam the Man]], and [[User:Wbwolf|Wbwolf]]
#[[Strong Bad and the King of Town's Relationship]]
#[[Character Relationships]]
#[[Coches Mountains]] --Thanks to [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] for the imageness
#[[Template:no-image]]
#{{cl|Transcript Templates}}

*'''Transcribed:'''
#[[the chair]]

*'''Miscellaneous:'''
#Created 23 Main Page redirects. (In 10 minutes!)
#Created the 40 sbemail redirects for the [[Strong Bad Email#Tandy 400 Era|Tandy 400]] emails. (Took 18 minutes, which is slightly slower than before...)
#Linked all of the [[Characters#Main Characters|Main characters]] to their respective [[:Category:Character Relationships|relationship]] pages.
#Categorized over 40 [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates|Uncategorized Templates]]. --Thanks to [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] for finishing the list
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===Current Status===
[[Image:Wikistress3D 1 v3.jpg|thumb|left|120px|Midterms are over. Whoop-dee-do.]]
Thanks to {{User:Jeppo/sig}} for the thought boxes and {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} for the stress meter.
<div style="background-color: #AFEEEE; border: 2px solid #0000FF; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; text-align:center">DARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAI</div>
<div style="background-color: #98FF98; border: 2px solid #177245; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; text-align:center">Trying to teach myself Japanese now. I so need a life.</div>
<div style="background-color: #E9967A; border: 2px solid #FF0000; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; text-align:center">If anyone out there has an extra 360 lying around, drop me a line...</div>
<table width="80%">
<autocolumn cols="2" width="40%">
*'''What's up?'''
**Still [supposed to be] in the ongoing [[HRWiki:Article cleanup|Article cleanup]] project. Hence, the "ongoing" part.
**My Internet connection is constantly choking, so my edits will start getting rarer.
 
 
 
 
*'''Current Gaming Status:'''
**''Drakengard 2'': District of Soul Flame
**''Custom Robo Arena'': The cruise ship
**''Prince of Persia: Rival Swords'': Just left the arena of the first boss
**''Metroid Prime 3: Corruption'': Trying to disable the Pirate defense barrier. Still.
</autocolumn>
</table>
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==Random Stuff==
<center>My World Domination rabbit 
(\__/) 
(='.'=) 
(")_(")
</center>
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===Just an ordinary day at the wiki...===
''This is a reconstruction of the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]] page. Read from bottom to top.''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:51 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(unblocked "[[User:Loafing]]": *ahem*. these are not the droids you're looking for. >.> <.< now go away)''
* ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Loafing&curid=25775&diff=463278&oldid=459634&rcid=418081 diff}}) ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Loafing&curid=25775&action=history hist}}) . . '''!''' [[User talk:Loafing]]‎; 18:51 . . [[User:Ten Ten|Ten Ten]] ([[User_Talk:Ten Ten|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Ten Ten|contribs]]) ''(Wait--what?)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:50 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(blocked "[[User:Mr.Queer]]" with an expiry time of infinite: vandalism)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:48 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(blocked "[[User:Loafing]]" with an expiry time of infinite: vandalism)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:48 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(unblocked "[[User:Mr.Queer]]": blocking for a longer time)''
* ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Malapropisms&curid=34854&diff=463275&oldid=463271 diff}}) ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Malapropisms&curid=34854&action=history hist}}) . . [[Malapropisms‎]]; 18:46 . . [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] ([[User_Talk:DeFender1031|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/DeFender1031|contribs]]) ''(i disagree, "blubbering" and "blathering" are very similar.)''
* ([[Special:Log/delete|Deletion log]]); 18:42 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(deleted "[[User Talk:Mr.Queer]]": vandal talk page)''
* ([[Special:Log/delete|Deletion log]]); 18:42 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(deleted "[[User:Mr.Queer]]": vandal talk page)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:42 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(blocked "[[User:Mr.Queer]]" with an expiry time of 1 year: vandalism in progress)''
* ([[Special:Log/newusers|User creation log]]); 18:29 . . [[User:Mr.Queer|Mr.Queer]] ([[User_Talk:Mr.Queer|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Mr.Queer|contribs]]) ''(New user: [[User_Talk:Mr.Queer|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Mr.Queer|contribs]] | [[Special:Blockip/Mr.Queer|block]])''
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===Quotes===
Time to play Name That Movie! Or video game, or song, even... whatever. Post on [[User_talk:SamFisher1022|my Talk page]] if you think you've identified where these quotes came from!

'''People who solved quotes:'''
#{{User:Einstein runner/sig}} - 9 quotes, 3 dialogues(!)
#[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] - 1 quote

====Quotes====

#"I want to talk to her! ...May I? ...You don't have a ''phone!?''"
#"You haven't got into some woman trouble while I wasn't looking, have you? Be careful of women. They'll lead you astray."
#"You can be a general, or you can be dinner. I don't really care which... But do try to show a little initiative, won't you?"
#"You there, in the bushes. You have until the count of five to show yourself before I start throwing sharp objects."
#"No, the ship's the least of our troubles. We face the foulest foe a fellow's ever faced—boredom!"
#"You need no escort. Even the most hardened criminal would flee in terror after five minutes in your company. I'll return your money. Gladly."

====Dialogue====

#'''Person 1''': So let me get this straight. You came to get back a shop that's no longer yours, you don't have the 40 grand to ''buy'' it back, and you don't have the 20 grand I gave you this ''morning?'' '''Person 2''': ...No. '''Person 1''': This dude is crazy.
#'''Person 1''': You know... I don't think you're all that stupid." '''Person 2''': ''{laughs}'' Thank you... um... I don't think... you're all that ''smart.''

Talk:corn

SamFisher1022 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:42:11 GMT

SamFisher1022: {{ttbd}} and reason

{{ttbd}}
== Delete ==
This is another one-time kind of item. While we normally keep pages for one-time appearances of items, this one is exceptionally unspectacular. I'm up for '''deleting''' this page. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 13:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

User:SamFisher1022

SamFisher1022 — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:40:49 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Favorites */ new x2

=='''''Welcome to my user page!!'''''==

{{User:SamFisher1022/sig}}

Hey there evvybody! I'm SamFisher1022, as you might have guessed. Around here, I'm a pretty big Recent Changes junkie, and I'm a major contributor to the [[HRWiki:Article cleanup|Article cleanup]] project. On some of the slower days, I hang around the #hrwiki freenode channel, or just [[from work|log off/out]] and play video games. Yoink!

{{User:SamFisher1022/navigation}}

{{User:SamFisher1022/userbox}}

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===Hobbies===
*I love video games. (Don't we all?) One of my favorite video game series is [[Wikipedia:Fire Emblem|Fire Emblem]].
*Programming. Not like ''professional'' programming, but things like making movie trailers on my computer and little games on TI calculators.
*Homestar Runner, obviously.
*Cinnamon rolls. They're freakin' awesome.
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===Favorites===
*Favorite Characters: [[The Cheat]], [[Homsar]]
*Favorite Toons/Shorts: [[DNA Evidence]], [[Blubb-O's Commercial]]
*Favorite Strong Bad Emails: [[long pants]], [[pop-up]], [[mini-golf]], [[technology]], [[theme park]], [[rampage]]
*Favorite Quotes:
:([[Drive-Thru]]) '''DRIVE-THRU WHALE''': $9.17, sever your leg please, sir.
:([[pop-up]]) '''STRONG BAD''': Clearly, this pop-up book is a source of unspeakable power.
:([[rampage]]) '''STRONG SAD''': I dunno, drop some beats or something.
:([[Rap Song]]) '''COACH Z''': Oh, dag, that man has just ordered breakfast in the middle of my rap song!
:([[diorama]]) '''ANNOUNCER''': All new 2008 Air Cardgage! Only 249.99.99.99!
:([[Blubb-O's Commercial]]) '''DRIVE-THRU WHALE''': You are living a lie. Would you like cash back?
----

===Major Contribs===
*'''Created pages:'''
#[[A Splode]] --with help from [[User:The Joe|The Joe]], [[User:Venusy|Venusy]], and [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]].
#[[ASCII art]] --with help from [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] and [[User:Phlip|Phlip]]
#[[Template:noname]] --modified by [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
#[[Template:cl]] --modified by that guy ^
#Complete filmographies for all [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] characters. --with some help from [[User:Shwoo|Shwoo]], [[User:Sam the Man|Sam the Man]], and [[User:Wbwolf|Wbwolf]]
#[[Strong Bad and the King of Town's Relationship]]
#[[Character Relationships]]
#[[Coches Mountains]] --Thanks to [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] for the imageness
#[[Template:no-image]]
#{{cl|Transcript Templates}}

*'''Transcribed:'''
#[[the chair]]

*'''Miscellaneous:'''
#Created 23 Main Page redirects. (In 10 minutes!)
#Created the 40 sbemail redirects for the [[Strong Bad Email#Tandy 400 Era|Tandy 400]] emails. (Took 18 minutes, which is slightly slower than before...)
#Linked all of the [[Characters#Main Characters|Main characters]] to their respective [[:Category:Character Relationships|relationship]] pages.
#Categorized over 40 [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates|Uncategorized Templates]]. --Thanks to [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] for finishing the list
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===Current Status===
[[Image:Wikistress3D 1 v3.jpg|thumb|left|120px|Midterms are over. Whoop-dee-do.]]
Thanks to {{User:Jeppo/sig}} for the thought boxes and {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} for the stress meter.
<div style="background-color: #AFEEEE; border: 2px solid #0000FF; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; text-align:center">DARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAIDARKRAI</div>
<div style="background-color: #98FF98; border: 2px solid #177245; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; text-align:center">Trying to teach myself Japanese now. I so need a life.</div>
<div style="background-color: #E9967A; border: 2px solid #FF0000; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; text-align:center">If anyone out there has an extra 360 lying around, drop me a line...</div>
<table width="80%">
<autocolumn cols="2" width="40%">
*'''What's up?'''
**Still [supposed to be] in the ongoing [[HRWiki:Article cleanup|Article cleanup]] project. Hence, the "ongoing" part.
**My Internet connection is constantly choking, so my edits will start getting rarer.
 
 
 
 
*'''Current Gaming Status:'''
**''Drakengard 2'': District of Soul Flame
**''Custom Robo Arena'': The cruise ship
**''Prince of Persia: Rival Swords'': Just left the arena of the first boss
**''Metroid Prime 3: Corruption'': Trying to disable the Pirate defense barrier. Still.
</autocolumn>
</table>
----

==Random Stuff==
<center>My World Domination rabbit 
(\__/) 
(='.'=) 
(")_(")
</center>
----
===Just an ordinary day at the wiki...===
''This is a reconstruction of the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]] page. Read from bottom to top.''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:51 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(unblocked "[[User:Loafing]]": *ahem*. these are not the droids you're looking for. >.> <.< now go away)''
* ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Loafing&curid=25775&diff=463278&oldid=459634&rcid=418081 diff}}) ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Loafing&curid=25775&action=history hist}}) . . '''!''' [[User talk:Loafing]]‎; 18:51 . . [[User:Ten Ten|Ten Ten]] ([[User_Talk:Ten Ten|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Ten Ten|contribs]]) ''(Wait--what?)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:50 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(blocked "[[User:Mr.Queer]]" with an expiry time of infinite: vandalism)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:48 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(blocked "[[User:Loafing]]" with an expiry time of infinite: vandalism)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:48 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(unblocked "[[User:Mr.Queer]]": blocking for a longer time)''
* ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Malapropisms&curid=34854&diff=463275&oldid=463271 diff}}) ({{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Malapropisms&curid=34854&action=history hist}}) . . [[Malapropisms‎]]; 18:46 . . [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] ([[User_Talk:DeFender1031|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/DeFender1031|contribs]]) ''(i disagree, "blubbering" and "blathering" are very similar.)''
* ([[Special:Log/delete|Deletion log]]); 18:42 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(deleted "[[User Talk:Mr.Queer]]": vandal talk page)''
* ([[Special:Log/delete|Deletion log]]); 18:42 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(deleted "[[User:Mr.Queer]]": vandal talk page)''
* ([[Special:Log/block|Block log]]); 18:42 . . [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] ([[User_Talk:Loafing|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Loafing|contribs]]) ''(blocked "[[User:Mr.Queer]]" with an expiry time of 1 year: vandalism in progress)''
* ([[Special:Log/newusers|User creation log]]); 18:29 . . [[User:Mr.Queer|Mr.Queer]] ([[User_Talk:Mr.Queer|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Mr.Queer|contribs]]) ''(New user: [[User_Talk:Mr.Queer|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Mr.Queer|contribs]] | [[Special:Blockip/Mr.Queer|block]])''
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===Quotes===
Time to play Name That Movie! Or video game, or song, even... whatever. Post on [[User_talk:SamFisher1022|my Talk page]] if you think you've identified where these quotes came from!

'''People who solved quotes:'''
#{{User:Einstein runner/sig}} - 9 quotes, 3 dialogues(!)
#[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] - 1 quote

====Quotes====

#"I want to talk to her! ...May I? ...You don't have a ''phone!?''"
#"You haven't got into some woman trouble while I wasn't looking, have you? Be careful of women. They'll lead you astray."
#"You can be a general, or you can be dinner. I don't really care which... But do try to show a little initiative, won't you?"
#"You there, in the bushes. You have until the count of five to show yourself before I start throwing sharp objects."
#"No, the ship's the least of our troubles. We face the foulest foe a fellow's ever faced—boredom!"

====Dialogue====

#'''Person 1''': So let me get this straight. You came to get back a shop that's no longer yours, you don't have the 40 grand to ''buy'' it back, and you don't have the 20 grand I gave you this ''morning?'' '''Person 2''': ...No. '''Person 1''': This dude is crazy.
#'''Person 1''': You know... I don't think you're all that stupid." '''Person 2''': ''{laughs}'' Thank you... um... I don't think... you're all that ''smart.''

Talk:Rivalries

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:55:40 GMT

SamFisher1022: delete

{{ttbd}}
Is this really notable? I mean, we already have [[Character Relationships]]. I'm up for '''deleting''' or '''merging with [[Character Relationships]]'''. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:True, all rivalries are already covered on characters' Relationship pages, so there's not much reason to create a whole new web of "Character Rivalries" pages when we're fine with what we already have. '''Delete'''. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 00:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Mrs. Bennedetto

SamFisher1022 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:34:23 GMT

SamFisher1022: since we always write it "five bucks"

[[Image:mrsbenedetto.png|thumb|right|220px|Be brave, microwave]]

'''Mrs. Bennedetto''' is [[Marzipan]]'s microwave. She is [[Frank Bennedetto]]'s [[Parents|mother]], as noted in the [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD]] [[army#Easter Egg Commentary|commentary]] for [[army]]. Homestar comes to her to settle a debt of five bucks left by Frank.
She is also a member of Pile of Electronics State, as shown in the email "[[mascot]]."

She has buttons for Power, Frozen, [[Wikipedia:Broasted|Broast]], Boil, Clear, and Start, but in [[part-time job]] she has a "back" button. Also, for no apparent reason, she has # and * buttons, making her number-pad look like a telephone's (with the # and * buttons reversed).

== Complete Filmography ==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[mascot]]
*Email [[army]]
*Email [[radio]]
*Email [[part-time job]]

[[Category:Electronics]]
[[Category:Pseudocharacters|Bennedetto, Mrs.]]

HRWiki:Userboxes

SamFisher1022 — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:41:01 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Directions */ i kind of wonder if anyone reads these, but...

{{shortcut|UB}}
Many users choose to add [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Userboxes|userboxes]] to their user pages. These boxes are arranged in a tower-like formation to give visitors information on the user. The Homestar Runner Wiki has Homestar-specific userboxes that you can add to your user page.

==Directions==
*To begin your userbox tower, type '''<nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki>'''
*Add userbox blocks by copying and pasting the code listed under "source" below. Each box must be on its own line (press Enter/Return after each paste).
*To end your tower, type '''<nowiki>|}</nowiki>'''.
*Your page will not [[HRWiki:Validation committee|validate]] if you add more than one tower. Please include only one tower on your page.
*To change the standard "HRWiki:Userbox" text, type '''<nowiki>{{userboxtop|Text you want to appear}}</nowiki>'''
 
<div style="background:#FFC;padding:8px;border:solid 1px #DC9">

===Important===
'''The standards for what is appropriate for [[HRWiki:User space#What should I avoid?|user pages]] have not changed.''' Please keep these boxes '''positive''' and related to your '''Homestar Runner experience''' (favorite toon, what you like to do ''on the wiki'', etc.). Thank you for remembering what the wiki is about.
</div>

===Example===
{| border=1 cellpadding="5" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Code !! Result
|-
|
<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki></code> 
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#15317E | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail55.PNG|53px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFE600 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Seriouslymacintosh.png|40px]] | msg=This user uses a '''[[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Mac]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99C6EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Internet Explorer Logo.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#ED9121 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ffox.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=CUST | msg=This user likes to customize user boxes.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<code><nowiki>|}</nowiki></code> 
|
{{userboxtop}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCCCCC|codebkgd=#15317E|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:sbemail55.PNG|53px]]|msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFE600|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Seriouslymacintosh.png|40px]]|msg=This user uses a '''[[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Mac]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99C6EE|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Internet Explorer Logo.png|53px]]|msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#ED9121|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Ffox.png|53px]]|msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#00008B|mainbkgd=#F5F5F5|codebkgd=#0000CD|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=CUST|msg=This user likes to create customized user boxes.}}
|}
|}
{{clear}}

==Templates==
=== Wiki Info ===
<userboxsamples>
{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=ADM | msg=This user is a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=SYS | msg=This user is a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFFF00 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#000000 | code=FAN | msg=This user also contributes to the '''[[HRFWiki:|Fanstuff Wiki]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#0099FF | mainbkgd=#CCDDFF | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#000000 | code=FRM | msg=This user also contributes to the '''[http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Wiki Forum]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#708090 | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#696969 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=TAVI | msg=This user was on '''[[HRWiki:A History#The beginnings and early days|Ye Olde Wiki]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#006400 | mainbkgd=#ADFF2F | codebkgd=#2E8B57 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:HomsarPotion-ma-jig.png|30px]] | msg=This user enjoys doing '''[[HRWiki:WikiGnome|Gnome work]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#708090 | mainbkgd=#F0F8FF | codebkgd=#696969 | codecolor=#B0E0E6 | code=RV | msg=This user often finds and reverts '''[[HRWiki:WikiTroll|vandalism]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#AAA | mainbkgd=#EEF | codebkgd=#CCC | codecolor=#000000 | code='''STUFF''' | msg=This user likes to vote on '''[[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF6103 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FF6103 | code=RC | msg=This user patrols '''[[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CC6666 | codebkgd=#FF6666 | codecolor=#000000 | code=HI | msg=This user is on the '''[[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|welcoming committee]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000 | mainbkgd=#3FF | codebkgd=#09F | codecolor=#000 | code='''<val />''' | msg=This user is on the '''[[HRWiki:Validation committee|validation committee]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=[[Image:Subtitles Project Logo.png|42px]] | msg=This user works on the '''[[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitles project]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000 | mainbkgd=#CCF | codebkgd=#30f | codecolor=#000 | code=IRC | msg=This user visits the '''[[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC channel]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000 | mainbkgd=#5B90F6 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FF91912 | code=[[Image:Carolcropped.png|42px]] | msg=This user is working on transcribing Homestar-related guitar tabs.}}

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=== Internet/Computer Related ===
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#15317E | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail55.PNG|53px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFE600 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Seriouslymacintosh.png|40px]] | msg=This user uses a '''[[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Mac]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#5FCA75 | codebkgd=#A90000 | codecolor=#0036ff | code=[[Image:37 tux linux penguin.png|53px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Linux|Linux]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#F26711 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:NetBSD-smaller.png|45px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:NetBSD|NetBSD]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=CL | msg=This user understands [[Wikipedia:Computing Language Here|A Computing Language]]}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99C6EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Internet Explorer Logo.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#ED9121 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ffox.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#9966EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Safari Userbox.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Safari (web browser)|Safari]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Netscape userbox.gif|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Netscape|Netscape]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6699CC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Seamonkey96.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:SeaMonkey|SeaMonkey]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99C6EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ace explorer logo.png]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[http://www.aceexplorer.com Ace Explorer]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#20B2AA | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Googleicon.png|53px]] | msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[[Google:|Google]]''' search.}}

{{userbox | border=#800517 | mainbkgd=#FFF8C6 | codebkgd=#800517 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Yahooicon.png|53px]] | msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[http://www.yahoo.com/ Yahoo!]''' search.}}

{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=WP | msg=This user is also on '''[[Wikipedia:User:YourUserName|Wikipedia]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#A9A9A9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#A9A9A9 | code=TMBW | msg=This user is also on '''[[TMBW:User:YourUserName|This Might Be A Wiki]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FAFAD2 | codebkgd=#F0E68C | codecolor=#000000 | code=UN | msg=This user is also on '''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:YourUserName Uncyclopedia]'''.}}


{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=WK | msg=This user is also on '''[http://OtherWikiUrl.com Other Wiki Name Here]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6699CC | codebkgd=#006699 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=F! | msg=This user is on the '''[http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki HRWiki Frappr map]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6666FF | codebkgd=#66CCCC | codecolor=#3333CC | code=IM | msg=This user has an '''Instant message address'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=EM | msg=This user has an '''Email address'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFF | msg=<table width="100%"><tr style="background:#E0F5E1"><td align="center"> </td></tr><tr><td align="center">'''> [[Special:Emailuser/{{PAGENAME}}|Click here]] to'''</td></tr><tr style="background:#E0F5E1"><td align="center">'''email this user'''</td></tr></table>}}

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===User Info===
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=KID | msg=This user is under '''13 years old'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=TEEN | msg=This user is between '''13 and 19 years old'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=OLD | msg=This user is over '''19 years old'''.}}

{{userbox | border=red | mainbkgd=purple | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=black | code=LEFT | msg=This user is '''left handed'''}}

{{userbox | border=red | mainbkgd=blue | codebkgd=purple | codecolor=white | code=RIGHT | msg=This user is '''right handed'''}}

{{userbox | border=yellow | mainbkgd=purple | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=red | code=AMBI | msg=This user is '''ambidextrous'''}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#30F | codecolor=#F00 | code=200X | msg=This user discovered the H*R website in '''insert year here'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#30F | codecolor=#F00 | code=XX | msg=This user discovered the H*R website when he/she was '''insert age here''' years old.}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#39F | codecolor=#F00 | code=200X | msg=This user discovered the H*R Wiki in '''insert year here'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#39F | codecolor=#F00 | code=XX | msg=This user discovered the H*R Wiki when he/she was '''insert age here''' years old.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#FF0000 | codecolor=#990000 | code=F | msg=This user has had his/her [[Weekly Fanstuff YYYY#WF-YYYY-MM-DD|fanstuff]] put on the H*R Webpage.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FF0000 | code=SBE | msg=This user has had his/her [[Link to your email|Sbemail]] answered by Strong Bad.}}

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==== Location ====
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{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#0000EE | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Flag of the United States.png|50px]] | msg=This user is an '''[[Wikipedia:United States|American]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#F00 | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Union jack.png|45px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|British]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#EEE | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Canadian flag.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is a '''[[Wikipedia:Canada|Canadian]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#F00 | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:sbemail43.PNG|45px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Wikipedia:Sweden|Swedish]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=red | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#F00 | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:TempAussieFlag.png|50px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Wikipedia:Australia|Australian]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:California state flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:California|California]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Illinois.png|24px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Illinois|Illinois]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag of Washington, D.C..png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Washington, D.C.|Washington, D.C.]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Maryland flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Maryland|Maryland]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Rhode Island.jpg|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Rhode Island|Rhode Island]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Texas flag.gif|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Texas|Texas]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Pennsylvania flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:State Flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Michigan|Michigan]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag of Washington.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Washington|Washington]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightred | codebkgd=green | codecolor=lightblue | code=BFLO | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Buffalo, New York|Buffalo]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:FCUSAMaybe.PNG|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Free Country, USA|Free Country, USA]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag of Jerusalem.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Jerusalem|Jerusalem]]'''.}}

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===Email Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite email is '''[[insert title]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Tandy 400 Emails|Tandy-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail lappy2.png|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Lappy 486 Emails|Lappy-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:ipod homestar.gif|43px]] | msg=This user watches '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on his/her iPod]].}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Homestar psp.png|43px]] | msg=This user watches '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on his/her PSP]].}}

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===Character Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 1 - homestar.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homestar Runner]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:The Cheat Character Video.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The Cheat]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 3 - strong sad.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Sad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 8 - strong mad.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Mad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:pompom.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Pom Pom]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 6 - marzipan.PNG|35px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Marzipan]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Coach Z]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Bubs]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 7 - the kot.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The King of Town]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:poopsmith.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The Poopsmith]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:pquesttrailer.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Trogdor]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 16 - stinkoman.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Stinkoman]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:rather real.jpg|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Rather Dashing]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Trogador.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Trogador]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 11 - senor cardgage.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Senor Cardgage]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Marshie43x43.png|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Marshie]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:sterrance.png|50px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Sterrance]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Da Huuuuuudge closeup.png|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals#Da Huuuuuudge|Da Huuuuuudge]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Frank Bennedetto.PNG|30px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Frank Bennedetto|Frank Bennedetto]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:nebulon.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Nebulon]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:everybody-poster.PNG|50px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''insert character here'''.}}



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===Game Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#FF0000 | mainbkgd=#8B0000 | codebkgd=#DC143C | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user loves to play '''[[Stinkoman 20X6|Stinkoman 20X6]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#D19275 | mainbkgd=#FFE4C4 | codebkgd=#CD853F | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=PQ | msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000080 | mainbkgd=#99AAFF | codebkgd=#191970 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:handheldgames postshooter.png|43px]] | msg=This user likes the '''[[Handheld Games Menu|Old Games]]''' the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:d3win.png|43px]] | msg=This user hath beaten '''[[Thy Dungeonman 3]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=gold | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=red | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:kidspeedy.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is faster than '''[[Kid Speedy]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#333333 | mainbkgd=#cccccc | codebkgd=#333333 | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Viidelectrix Menu 1-29-2007.png|43px]] | msg=This user plays '''[[Viidelectrix]] games'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#00EE00 | codebkgd=black | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Duck Guardian icon.png|43px]] | msg=This user has '''[[Duck Guardian One|guarded 285 ducks]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gold | codebkgd=black | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Guitar Hero II Trogdor Bonus.JPG|50px]] | msg=This user has rocked out to '''[[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]''' on '''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero 2|Guitar Hero 2]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gold | codebkgd=black | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Limozeen photo.PNG|50px]] | msg=This user has rocked out to '''[[Because It's Midnite]]''' on '''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s|Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#B80 | codebkgd=white | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Egg.png|35px]] | msg=Этот пользователь '''[[Where's an Egg?|нашел яйцо]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#333333 | mainbkgd=#333333 | codebkgd=#000000 | code=[[Image:poptiregame.PNG|43px]] | msg= This user '''[[Population: Tire|is soldier.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#cccccc | codebkgd=black | code=[[Image:Comic Generator Title.png|45px]] | msg= This user likes to '''[[Make-O Your Own Stinko|Make-O His/Her Own Stink-O]](Man)!'''}}

</userboxsamples>

===Chapman Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF3030 | codebkgd=#99AAFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Matt closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Matt Chapman|Matt]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99AAFF | codebkgd=#FF3030 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Mike closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#EEE0E5 | codebkgd=#FF0066 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Missy closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Missy Palmer|Missy]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF0066 | codebkgd=#EEE0E5 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Jackie closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Jackie Chapman|Jackie]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CD00CD | codebkgd=#7F00FF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:donniechapman.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Donnie Chapman|Donnie]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF7F24 | codebkgd=#AA5303 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Don closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don]]'''.}}

</userboxsamples>

===Spinoff Userboxes===
<userboxsamples>

{{userbox | border=#ADD8E6 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#E0FFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FF8C00 | mainbkgd=#FED8AA | codebkgd=#FF8C00 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Marzipans Answering Machine.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FF1493 | mainbkgd=#00FFFF | codebkgd=#AFEEEE | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:scc.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}

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===Toon Userboxes===
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===Fun Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#133C6E | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]] | msg='''Homsar's words of wisdom:''' ''{{homsarquote}}''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF6EC7 | codebkgd=#7EC0EE | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Hillary.png|40px]] | msg=This user is being '''[[kids' book|fangoriously devoured by a gelatinous monster]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#7EC0EE | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:lilbrudder.gif|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Li'l Brudder|can make it on his/her own]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=teal | mainbkgd=mediumspringgreen | codebkgd=darkslategray | codecolor=steelblue | code=[[Image:Isp.PNG|53px]] | msg=This user is prepared to send you his/her weight in free sign up CDs.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00FF7F | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|43px]] | msg=This user is playing '''[[highschool|better video games]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#ED9121 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 11 - senor cardgage.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can help you '''[[Senor Mortgage|get a leg up on the pile]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#009966 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=LOL | msg=This user is '''[[funny]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#7EC0EE | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Faint of butt.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's got an '''[[Strong Bad Sings|ugly butt]]''', and a stupid... butt.}}

{{userbox | border=#9966FF | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#E0FFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail36.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can play the '''[[guitar]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC11 | codebkgd=#6A5ACD | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ilko.png|43px]] | msg=This user plays '''[[cheatday|mining games]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00FF00 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user has '''[[Who Said What Now?|more than two prablems]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:municipality.png|50px]] | msg=This user is a member of '''[[The Municipality]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 13 - so and so.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Teen Girl Squad|SO GOOD]]!}}

{{userbox | border=#ADD8E6 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#E0FFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:DndGreg.PNG|32px]] | msg=This user doesn't like his/her '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|style bitten]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#B22222 | codebkgd=#FEF1B5 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:TC cartoony.png|43px]] | msg=This user [[pop-up|'''has stolen all of Senor Muybueno's gold''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#9900CC | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:level5intro.png|43px]] | msg=This user is on the '''[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 5|mooooooon!]]'''}}

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{{userbox | border=#990033 | mainbkgd=#CC9966 | codebkgd=#009966 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:DancingBros.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[A Folky Tale|gonna have a good time tonight]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:StrongBad CarmenSanDiego.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user doesn't know '''[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats|what's fun about eating less candy.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#32CD32 | codebkgd=#7CFC00 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Coach Z With Food Sign.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[These peoples try to fade me|could use a dollar, he/she could use a couple bucks]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC33 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#663333 | code=[[Image:UserboxLeftHanded.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is <s>squirrel</s> '''[[Left Handedness|left-handed]]'''.}}

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{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:firebert army.png|45px]] | msg=This user also thinks '''[[Firebert]]''' is not a good '''[[Cheat Commandos|Commando]]''' name.}}

{{userbox | border=#1D95CF | mainbkgd=#AED9EE | codebkgd=#666 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strong Bad's Rhythm N' Grammar.png|45px]] | msg=If you want it to be possessive, it's just '''I-T-S''', but if it's suppposed to be a contraction then it's '''I-T-apostrophe-S'''. '''[[local news|Scalawag]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#333366 | mainbkgd=#9999CC | codebkgd=#666699 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Better-1-Up.png|34px]] | msg=This user wants to '''[[japanese cartoon|be the guy too]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#009966 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=ga-ga | msg=This user is enrolled at '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Diaper School]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=[[Image:sbemail106.PNG|34px]] | msg=Looks like this user's [[dangeresque 3|'''gonna have to jump''']]!}}

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{{userbox | border=#00BFFF | mainbkgd=#FFD700 | codebkgd=#00BFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Adorable The Cheat.png|43px]] | msg=This user is [[lady...ing|'''holy-crap-adorable''']]!}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:jailcartoon01.png|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon|making out with Sweet Lady Freedom.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#0000FF | mainbkgd=#787878 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:Tag team wrestling.png|43px]] | msg=This user plays '''[[Nintendo]]''' with '''[[Moses Malone]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=gold | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Keep cool 2.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user keeps cool with '''[[keep cool|Monkey D's Summer Tips]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:qod 10 - marshie.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Meet Marshie|hates that fweakin' marshmallow.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#368634 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|54px]] | msg=This user is [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|'''Hazardous to your Health''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00468C | codebkgd=#009F00 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:Drivethru.png|43px]] | msg=This user is not willing to '''[[Drive-Thru|sever his/her leg]]''', but he/she would like to try a combo meal.}}

{{userbox | border=blue | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=purple | codecolor=white | code=[[Image:Sbrocket.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user has caught a [[Europa-pean Lobster]] with a '''[[Strong Bad's Rocket|water rocket]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:cellphone.png|43px]] | msg=This user just [[technology|wrote, directed, produced, and distributed a movie with his/her cell phone]]!}}

{{userbox | border=purple | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=#B22222 | codecolor=#99CCFF | code=[[Image:sbemail opera.png|50px]] | msg=This user is '''[[rock opera|awesome singing backwards metal]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 14 - whats her face.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|likes cloth]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#133C6E | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Drums.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can '''[[do over|play the drum!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=blue | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=green | codecolor=white | code=[[Image:Aunt gert doll.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user will give ya two thin dimes for this '''[[Aunt Gert|pantyhose doll]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=blue | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=red | codecolor=white | code=[[Image:Less than b.JPG|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|less than B]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:On Point Kings brochure.png|45px]] | msg=This user is a member of the '''[[On Point Kings]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Broken Paper.png|53px]] | msg=This user mourns the loss of the old '''[[The Paper|paper]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Pistols For Pandas T-shirt close.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user supports [[Pistols For Pandas|'''Pistols for Pandas''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:pencil moistener.png‎ |43px]] | msg=This user was affected by the '''[[Old Comics|Dry Pencil Scare of '47]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:unnatural tea party.png|43px]] | msg=This user has tampered with the '''[[DNA evidence]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 12 - cheerleader.PNG‎|43px]] | msg=This user is a [[Quote of the Week|latitude snob]].}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Homestar Runner Horned Helmet Ever and More.png|43px]] | msg=This user is a member of the '''[[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#708090 | mainbkgd=#F0F8FF | codebkgd=#696969 | codecolor=#B0E0E6 | code=[[Image:Ever and More.png|43px]] | msg=This user has [[Ever and More!|'''a secret handshake''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#5FCA75 | codebkgd=#A90000 | codecolor=#0036ff | code=[[Image:Bubs fireman.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's [[Ever and More!|'''rubbing ointment''']] costs fifty bucks a tube.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#32CD32 | codebkgd=#7CFC00 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:A dragon.PNG‎|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Trogdor|was burninated by trogdor]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#09C | codebkgd=#969 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Shades.png‎|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Main Page 24|wears glasses]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=purple | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=#B22222 | codecolor=#99CCFF | code=[[Image:qod horriblepainting.PNG|43px]] | msg=The [[Horrible Painting]] gives this user the '''[[Jibblies]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=teal | mainbkgd=mediumspringgreen | codebkgd=darkslategray | codecolor=steelblue | code=[[Image:count to G.PNG‎|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|can count to G!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=purple | mainbkgd=plum | codebkgd=darkviolet | codecolor=purple | code=[[Image:Count to purple backwards.png‎|43px]] | msg=That's nothing. '''''This''''' user '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|can count to purple backwards!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=green | mainbkgd=blue | codebkgd=green | codecolor=green | code=[[Image:Hug.PNG‎|50px]] | msg=There was [[bottom 10|'''this one time''']] where this user had to [[tree hugging|'''hug a tree'''...]]}}

{{userbox | border=green | mainbkgd=red | codecolor=blue | code=[[Image:BickleyScript.png|50px]] | msg=This user is '''The Great'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#0047AB | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#0047AB | codecolor=#228B22 | code=[[Image:Original.png|50px]] | msg=This user misses '''[[Original Bubs]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gray | codebkgd=black | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Sloshy.png|50px]] | msg=This user [[sloshy|'''doesn't really even care about you''']].}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gray | codebkgd=black | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:limozeen.jpg|50px]] | msg=This user [[Limozeen|'''has the heart of a lion and the wings of a bat''']].}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gray | codebkgd=crimson | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:VectorStrongBadShaded.png|50px]] | msg=This user likes to [[alternate universe|'''splo stuff up''']].}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#3F0 | codebkgd=#F69 | codecolor=#663333 | code=[[Image:CrackStuntman.PNG|50px]] | msg=This user [[An Important Rap Song|'''does not play with 2 many knives''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:thydungeonmanbox.PNG|43px]] | msg=Obvious exits from this user page are '''[[Thy Dungeonman|North]], [[video games|South]], and [[Dennis]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#1D95CF | mainbkgd=#AED9EE | codebkgd=#FFCC99 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:AccentPanic.png|50px]] | msg=This user has to save his/her weird '''[[accent]]'''!}}

{{userbox | border=#D19275 | mainbkgd=#FFE4C4 | codebkgd=#CD853F | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strong Sad Violin.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can play the violin.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF6EC7 | codebkgd=#7EC0EE | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail70.PNG|40px]] | msg=This user is sorry for throwing that first cake at '''[[Strong Sad]]'''.}}

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{{userbox | border=#000080 | mainbkgd=#99AAFF | codebkgd=#191970 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:nebulon.png|40px]] | msg=This user doesn't like [[new boots|Nebulon's style]]}}
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===Store Userboxes===
====T-Shirts and Polo Shirts====
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCFFCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Bear holding shark t-shirt.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user owns a '''[[Store T-Shirts#tshirt bear-shark|Bear Holding a Shark T-shirt]]'''.}}

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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCFFCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Senor_Cardgage_shirt.PNG|48px]] | msg=This user owns a '''[[Store T-Shirts#tshirt_senor_cardgage|Senor Cardgage T-shirt]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCFFCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Pistolsforfigginpandas.png|48px]] | msg=This user owns a '''[[Store T-Shirts#tshirt_pistols_for_pandas|Pistols for Pandas T-shirt]]'''.}}

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====Baby Clothes====
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====Hooded Sweatshirts====
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCFFCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Teen Girl Squad Hoodie.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user owns a '''[[Store Hooded Sweatshirts#hoodie tgs|Teen Girl Squad hoodie]]'''.}}

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====Accessories====
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCFFCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Tgstotebag.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user owns a '''[[Store Accessories#Tote Bags|Teen Girl Squad tote bag]]'''.}}

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====Toys====
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</userboxsamples>

====CDs/DVDs====
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99CCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strong bad email.exe disc 1-3.png|43px]] | msg=This user owns '''[[strongbad_email.exe]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99CCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strong bad email.exe disc 4 .png|43px]] | msg=This user owns '''[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Four]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99CCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strongbad email.exe Disc 5.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user owns '''[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99CCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strong Bad Sings CD.png|43px]] | msg=This user owns '''[[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]'''.}}

</userboxsamples>

====2-Dimensional Stuff====
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC99 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Homestar Runner and Strong Bad Poster.PNG|33px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Homestar and Strong Bad Poster]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC99 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Patches.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Store Other 2-D Stuff#Patches|Patches]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC99 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Static cling.PNG|38px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Store Other 2-D Stuff#Static Clings|Static Clings]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC99 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Bumper Stickers.png|40px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Store Other 2-D Stuff#Bumper Stickers|Bumper Stickers]]'''.}}

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====Freebies====
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Trogdor sticker.png|43px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Store Freebies#freebie trogdor sticker|Trogdor Sticker]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Trogdor sticker.png|43px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Store Freebies#freebie trogdor sticker|Teen Girl Squad Sticker]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Homestar Keychain.JPG|43px]] | msg=This user owns the '''[[Store Freebies#freebie hsr keychain|Homestar Keychain]]'''.}}

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[[Category:Help|{{PAGENAME}}]]

User:Nmnmbrthr

SamFisher1022 — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:39:01 GMT

SamFisher1022: more userbox fixes; to get them to show correctly outside of {{userboxtop}}, you need {| and |} around them, and everything needs to be on its own line

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Board Games

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:49:55 GMT

SamFisher1022: +img, -{{stub}}

[[Image:Jurvy-Skat.png|250px|thumb|Jurvy-Skat]]
'''Board games''' seem to be a popular activity for bored citizens of Free Country USA. Many such games, both real and fictional, have been mentioned in the Homestar Runner body of work.

==Appearances==
*[[Third Games Menu]] — The boxes for board game versions of certain [[Games]] are displayed.
*[[Where's The Cheat?]] — [[Strong Sad]] mentions he plays Jenga with [[The Cheat]] on Tuesday nights, and is seen playing [[Wikipedia:Connect Four|Connect Four]] with [[Homsar]]. Homsar makes reference to both [[Wikipedia:Battleship|Battleship]] and [[Wikipedia:Jenga|Jenga]].
*Email [[50 emails]] — One of [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]'s attempts at [[DELETED!]] is "[[Wikipedia:Stratego|stratego]]".
*Email [[army]] — An Easter egg shows the rulebook for the game [[Three-to-One Marny]].
*[[Strong Sad#Character Video Transcript|Strong Sad]]'s Character Video — Strong Sad rambles about playing board games with other board games.
*Email [[Family Resemblence]] — Strong Bad imagines [[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family]] in an advertisement for a board game called [[Jurvy-Skat]].
*Email [[geddup noise]] — As a parting gift from [[The Show]], [[The Geddup Noise]] receives a year's supply of [[The Show#The Show! Stupid Home Edition|The Show! Stupid Home Edition]].
*Email [[narrator]] — During the fake trailer for "Lugnut and Squeak", Strong Mad and The Cheat are seen playing Battleship.
*Email [[what I want]] — When Strong Bad mentions "a catapult that launches balls of cobras", an Easter egg that shows the box for the board game ''COBRA-PULT!!'' can be viewed.
*Email [[concert]] — Limozeen's contract rider lists "Jenga or [[Wikipedia:Pictionary|Pictionary]]".
*[[Sickly Sam's Big Outing]] — After being swallowed by Sickly Sam, [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] complains "All they've got in [his stomach] is [[Wikipedia:Parcheesi|Parcheesi]]!"

==See Also==
*[[Boardelectrix]]

[[Category:Games]][[Category:Activity running gags]][[Category:Object running gags]]

Strong Sad

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:40:07 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Biography */ link to Board Games

{{charnav|Strong Sad|ss|Strong Mad|Pom Pom}}
[[Image:newerstrongsad.PNG|thumb|"Each day we die a little more..."]]
[[Image:Babyss.PNG|thumb|Not sitting next to The Diapersmith.]]

== Biography ==
'''Strong Sad''' is the youngest of [[the Brothers Strong]]. He stands somewhere between [[Strong Bad]] and [[Strong Mad]] in height, and has large, elephant-like feet he calls "[[soolnds]]" (which, in the past, poachers have apparently offered large sums of money to obtain). His body is round and two shades of grey — a lighter grey from the waist up, a darker grey from the waist down. For some reason however, [[Coach Z]] thinks he is yellow.{{ref|1}} Strong Sad's body makes the sound of a inflated rubber ball when hit — and according to Strong Sad, it is hit often. In [[One Two, One Two]], it is hit in rhythm. His head is white and has an odd lump on the top, referred to as a "disturbing soft-serve flip" by Strong Bad in [[keep cool]] (a trait shared by [[Mr. Bland]]). It is unclear whether or not he has teeth. Strong Bad claims that he does not, but Strong Sad was seen brushing his teeth in [[narrator]] and [[concert]]. He is usually very calm and soft-spoken, although he has become [[Hyperactive Strong Sad|hyperactive]] on occasion (at least once under the influence of [[Coffee|caffeine]]), and he has also temporarily (albeit ''involuntarily'') become a boisterous [[radio|radio DJ]] once or twice. The phrase "covered bridges" seems to be able to put him in some type of trance, as seen in "[[Fall Float Parade]]". He also has some sort of reaction to sunlight overexposure, causing him to become uncharacteristically happy,{{ref|2}} even if he did not enjoy it (at one point, he actually asks to be shot).

Strong Sad's main defining characteristic is his chronic depression — his high levels of intelligence and creativity are almost always overshadowed by it. His many interests include listening, books, listening to books, calligraphy, safety, being alone, arts, crafts, and arts [[b/w]] crafts. He has outstanding penmanship, often writing poetry, which he then recites at his own "poetry slams". Strong Sad is seen using both his right and left hands to write and play the guitar, implying that he is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]]. He has been seen practicing [[Wikipedia:T'ai Chi Ch'üan|T'ai Chi]]. Strong Sad also enjoys playing [[board games]], and he seems to enjoy going to science-fiction and fantasy conventions, as seen in [[different town]] and [[TrogdorCon '97]]. He has an [[Strong Sad's iPod|iPod]], and he occasionally updates his [[Strong Sad's Lament|blog]] from time to time. Strong Sad's highly philosophical view on life has creeped out other characters more than once, most notably Strong Bad and [[Marzipan]]. Strong Sad may have a crush on Marzipan; he has occasionally lied to Marzipan just so he could spend time with her, as in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]. However, he might just be trying to make friends with anyone he can.

Strong Sad has a love-hate relationship with his brother Strong Bad. It appears that the two [[The Secrets That I Keep|got along quite well]] when they were younger, but nowadays, Strong Sad suffers almost constant [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|abuse]] from Strong Bad. In particular, Strong Bad has quite a list of [[Nicknames#Strong Sad|names]] he has used to insult Strong Sad. Strong Sad has also been the subject of numerous practical jokes by Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and [[The Cheat]], ranging from being drilled a new navel by [[Lil' Strong Bad]] to being used as a [[The Stunt Double|stunt double]] for the [[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]] movies, to even having [[what I want|wildebeest pheromones]] washed into his laundry. In turn, Strong Sad holds a very low opinion of his brother and considers him to be a clueless weirdo. However, evidence from "The Secrets That I Keep" suggests that even though Strong Sad insults Strong Bad, he also looks up to him and misses the days when they got along. He seems to retain some degree of brotherly love toward Strong Bad: when the Tandy 400 exploded in the email [[gimmicks]], Strong Sad sincerely asked Strong Bad if he were all right, and wrote a letter wishing him well while Strong Bad was [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|incarcerated]]. However, he also stated that his brother's absence caused him to feel far happier with himself than usual, and turned Strong Bad's computer room into his tai chi space. He was also eager to help Strong Bad with his 150th email in [[Sbemail 150?!?]], and even managed to provide the background music for Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email intro]] in [[alternate universe]].

Strong Sad's troubled relationship with Strong Bad seems to have affected his social interaction habits with the rest of the community of [[Free Country, USA]]. He is generally reclusive and has only a few friends — his [[Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship |best friend]] appears to be [[Homsar]], and he plays Jenga with The Cheat on Tuesdays. Early in the site's history, [[Homestar Runner]] even counted Strong Sad as a friend, and still shows some signs of friendship towards him. He is often overlooked and ignored when he [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|has an idea]], and he is sometimes even [[Death#Strong Sad|believed to be dead]]. Despite all of this, he serves as a loyal officer in the [[Homestarmy]], temps at an unnamed computer company with Strong Bad and Homestar, and even has a [[Strong Sad Lookalike Contest]] held in his honor/insult each year.

Strong Sad seems to be the most rational of the characters, and often seems to react perplexedly to the others' cartoonish antics. He can often be found patiently correcting another's apparent mistakes, such as in [[TrogdorCon '97]] and [[technology]], or [[Happy T!|entirely uncomprehending]] of the nonsensical events around him. He was even featured as the sole "[[Bear Holding a Shark]] Skeptic" in [[myths & legends]].

There may be more to him than meets the eye, however. Occasionally Strong Sad has done things that are not in line with his usually calm temperament: He [[rough copy|threw snowballs]] (saved in the freezer since he was eight) at Strong Bad, being [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Sad's Revenge|physically violent]], and he had a long bout of maniacal laughter when it was revealed that he was behind the whole [[DNA Evidence]] event. He also states in his blog that his resolution for the new year is to not feel so bad about wanting to hit Homestar so much, which is another example of his violent self.

*'''Domicile:''' [[House of the Brothers Strong]]
*'''Debut:''' [[Super NES]]
*[[:Category:Strong Sad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

===Sources===
#{{note|1}} [[Fall Float Parade]]
#{{note|2}} [[Happy Hallow-day]]

==Tunes==
Strong Sad listens to the following musicians/music groups, according to his [[Strong Sad's Lament|blog]]:

*[[Wikipedia:Angelo Badalamenti|Angelo Badalamenti]]
*[[Wikipedia:David Bowie|David Bowie]]
*[[Wikipedia:Will Oldham|Bonnie "Prince" Billy]]
*[[Wikipedia:Godspeed You! Black Emperor|Godspeed You! Black Emperor]]
*[[Wikipedia:Jerry Goldsmith|Jerry Goldsmith]]
*Mr. Mom - ''Original Motion Picture Soundtrack''
*[[Wikipedia:Peter Murphy (musician)|Peter Murphy]]
*[[Wikipedia:Pet Shop Boys|Pet Shop Boys]]
*[[Wikipedia:The Promise Ring|The Promise Ring]]
*[[Wikipedia:The Smiths|The Smiths]] (probably [[Wikipedia:Morrissey|Morrissey]] as well)
*[[Wikipedia:Matthew Sweet|Matthew Sweet]]
*[[They Might Be Giants]]
*[[Wikipedia:Thursday (band)|Thursday]]
*[[Wikipedia:Suzanne Vega|Suzanne Vega]]
*[[Wikipedia:Tom Waits|Tom Waits]]
*Butch Willis
*[[Wikipedia:Neil Young|Neil Young]]
*[[Wikipedia:Frank Zappa|Frank Zappa]]

Judging from the "[[Wikipedia:Boys Don't Cry (album)|Boys Don't Cry]]" silhouette poster of [[Wikipedia:Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] on his wall, Strong Sad also apparently listens to [[Wikipedia:The Cure|The Cure]]. Also, some of his Halloween costumes suggests that he enjoys [[Wikipedia:Talking Heads|Talking Heads]] and [[Wikipedia:Devo|Devo]]. He is also known to listen to [[sloshy]], as seen in [[concert]].

==Lurking==

Strong Sad has often been identified as a lurker, or has been associated with lurking.
[[Image:Sbemail157.PNG|thumb|Deathly Pallor with "Lonely Lurker Attack"]]
*Email [[garage sale]] — [[Strong Bad]] describes "The Lurker", using Strong Sad as an example, as being "the shady night-manager at Stuckey's type, who shades around all day but never buys anything." Strong Bad also tells Strong Sad, "At least <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Senor Cardgage]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> bought something, ''lurker''!"
*[[Senorial Day]] — In an [[Easter egg]], Strong Sad says, "there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely spring night."
*Email [[trading cards]] — One of [[Homestar Runner]]'s cards is [[The Deathly Pallor]], which can perform the "Lonely Lurker Attack."

{{clear}}

== Character Video Transcript ==
[[Image:CharacterVidStrongSad.png|thumb|"I have two brothers that like to pummel me every hour on the hour."]]
''{'''Page Title''': Poetry Slam!!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[Strong Sad's Room]]}''

''{Open with a black screen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I don't wanna do a characters page!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, come on, you can do it!

''{The lens cap is removed, and Strong Sad appears as the camera focuses on him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I'm not really comfortable talking to a camera.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{offscreen}'' Just pretend like you're talking to me, or a wall, or a tree, or any of the other stuff that you usually talk to.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ohhhhhh! My name's Strong Sad and... I have two brothers that like to pummel me every hour, on the hour. I mostly sit in my room, and... listen to music, and write, ''{begins tracing his finger along the edge of the screen}'' and talk to walls or trees... ''{stops touching the edge of the screen}'' and wait to be pummeled... I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean I like to play board games more than most people do. But by that I also mean I like board games more than I like most people. Like this one time, me and Hi-Ho Cherry-O! were playing The Game of Life, and I got a phone call from... Coach Z or somebody. And, I didn't answer it because I was having such a good time with playing this board game, against this other board game...

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{off-screen, losing patience}'' Okay, I think that's enough, Strong Sad.

'''STRONG SAD:''' And it got me to thinking, you know?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Okay, okay, I'm turning it off now.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Two lovers... collide...

''{The camera stops.}''

== Fun Facts ==
* [[Matt Chapman]] has said that Strong Sad is the most difficult character to voice due to how delicate he sounds. If Matt strains his voice too much before recording, he actually can't do Strong Sad at all (which led to Mike substituting for Strong Sad's one word in [[cheat talk]]).
* Strong Sad [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by saying he doesn't want to do a "character page", and by running his finger up and down the left border of the screen. The actual wall of his room is much further off to the side, as evidenced by the poster in the background.

* Strong Sad used to have an AOL Instant Messenger screenname of "depressio222". A fan registered the name, and after many questions as to why the Brothers Chaps had not reserved it beforehand, Strong Sad's IM changed to "depressio111117".
*Strong Sad was originally going to sound like [[Wikipedia:Michael Stipe|Michael Stipe]], but it was quickly rejected.
* In [[concert]], Strong Bad says the band [[sloshy]] appeals to "people that went to college." This may indicate that Strong Sad had a tertiary education.
* As seen in an Easter egg in [[pop-up]], Strong Sad's face has a striking resemblance to the [[Wikipedia:Manicouagan Reservoir|Manicouagan Reservoir]], a lake formed by a meteor impact in Quebec.

== Relationships ==
*[[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship]]
*[[Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship]]
*[[Marzipan and Strong Sad's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[Sickly Sam]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Hot Tub]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[The First Decemberween]] ([[A Decemberween Pageant|Decemberween]])
*[[Lil' Strong Sad]]
*[[Saddy Dumpington]]
*[[The Deathly Pallor]]
*[[Anonymous]]
*[[Trading Cards|Prancibald]] ([[trading card]])
*[[Other Character Variations#2046|2046 Strong Sad]] ([[your funeral]])
*Twelve-Times-A-Day Man ([[fan club]])
=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Andy Warhol|Andy Warhol]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Vyvyan (from [[Wikipedia:The Young_Ones (TV_series)|The Young Ones]]) in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:David Byrne (musician)|David Byrne]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:David Bowie|David Bowie]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Devo|Devo Member]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tony Clifton|Tony Clifton]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*The Fat Kid from [[Wikipedia:The Far Side|The Far Side]] in [[Jibblies 2]].

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Yeah, I don't think Sloshy could arpeggiate a diminished 7th if their philosophy degrees depended on it."|[[concert]] outtake|Mirror:ss_philosophy.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"I can't remember cereal, I can't remember TV. Is it football season yet? I don't even watch football. I hate football but I'll play football. Run you over in football..."|[[caffeine]] outtake|Mirror:ss_caffeine.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Strong Bad, did you put Montelbon pheromones..?"|[[what I want]] blooper|Mirror:ss_montelbon.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Tonight is my night to play Caaardinal Sins."|[[Where's The Cheat?]]|mirror:ss_cardinalsins.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Your computer room is now my tai chi space. And it doubles as my chai tea space, too!"|[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] outtake|Mirror:ss_chaitea.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Uh, Strong Bad, were you just first basin' it with that piece of loose leaf?!"|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]|Mirror:ss_looseleaf.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''As [[The Deathly Pallor]]''': "We got another 50 minutes straight of music free commercials comin atcha! Don't you touch that- zabbitablough!"|[[radio]] outtake|Mirror:ss_wa3d.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Marzipan, Marzipan!!!"|[[caffeine]]|Mirror:ss marzipan.wav}}
*{{qotw|"I don't like food anymore"|[[2 years]]|Mirror:ss foodanymore.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh, some animal died."|A parody of Homestar's line in [[impression]]|Mirror:ss_animal.wav}}
|}

==See Also==

*[[Strong Sad Evolution]]
*[[Strong Sad Smiling]]
*[[Hyperactive Strong Sad]]
*[[Strong Sad Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Strong Sad|Nicknames]]
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_ss.html|watch Strong Sad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_ss.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Sad's character video]]
*[mailto:depressio@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Sad] ([[depressio#Easter Eggs|note]])
*[[HR:sadjournal/index.html|See Strong Sad's Blog]]
*[[HR:sadjournal/wonderyears.html|Fond Reminiscences]]

{{Characters|Strong Sad}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_ss}}

[[Category:Homestarmy]]

Boardelectrix

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:38:48 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* See also */ un-orphaning Board Games

[[Image:boardelectrix.PNG|thumb|200px|right|Boardelectrix logo]]
'''Boardelectrix''' (which sounds suspiciously like [[Videlectrix]], though any connection is unknown) is a board game company. They currently have four known games, "[[Jurvy-Skat]]", "[[The Show#The Show! Stupid Home Edition|THE SHOW! Stupid Home Edition!]]", "[[redesign#Easter Eggs|Color Wheel Roulette Stupid Home Edition!]]", and "[[what I want#Easter Eggs|COBRA-PULT!!]]".

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Family Resemblence]]
*Email [[geddup noise]]
*Email [[redesign]]
*Email [[what I want]]

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:Jurvy-Skat.png|Jurvy-Skat
Image:TheShowStupidHomeEdition.png|THE SHOW! Stupid Home Edition!
Image:Colorwheelroulette.PNG|Color Wheel Roulette Stupid Home Edition!
Image:Cobra-Pult.png|COBRA-PULT!!

</gallery>
==See also==
*[[Board Games]]
*[[Kidelectrix]]

[[Category: Companies]]

Talk:Disney

SamFisher1022 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:19:12 GMT

SamFisher1022: -{{ttbd}}; consensus to keep

== Notable? ==

Maybe it's just because it's such a short article, but I find the notability of this gag pretty questionable. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. The works of Disney are so numerous and expansive that there's bound to be some references to them in any American show. As listed on the page, the references to Disney don't seem at all related, and unless someone can come up with more references to make me think otherwise, I don't think this article should be kept. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 10:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::I vote '''keep'''. Just because Disney references are popular doesn't mean we shouldn't note them; Nintendo ('80s video games in general) references are popular too. If anything, their popularity makes them more notable. Though the references listed here are quite varied, they are each still relevant not because they're direct references to each other, but to Disney works that are equally various. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 11:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::While I would generally say that Disney references would be notable and deserve their own article, I'm not happy with the current one. ''Cinderella'' would for example be a movie that I would accept in a Disney references list. ''Golden Girls'' or ''The Nightmare Before Christmas'' not. Yes, I know that they're Disney by name. But not in spirit. Just because TNBC happened to be financed by Disney doesn't make it a typical Disney movie. It's a Tim Burton movie. Yes, this is a problem. In my opinion, it's meaningless to list a movie such as TNBC here, on the other hand, where do we draw the line? Can we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Suggest scope of page be narrowed to "classic" Disney animations and films, as well as the theme parks, and exclude Touchstone, ABC, and other loosely-associated media. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. This would mean fewer references, but they're more related and wouldn't need as much explanation. EDIT: Wow, there are even fewer than I thought. A lot of the references on the page were not productions by Disney himself (I'm assuming that's where we draw the line for "classic" films). Only the appearances in [[licensed]] would stay in the Films section (though the ''Lion King'' reference actually doesn't belong, I don't think it should be separated from ''Cinderella'' because they occur at the same time), and the two Theme Park attractions would stay. It's shaping up to be a pretty short page, but are we okay with that? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::The need for subheadings would be lost. But we have short pages here, that's fine if they are both complete and notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I like the article with these changes. Now it makes sense and is interesting. We should '''keep''' it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I say definitely '''keep'''!! [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 08:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I would actually consider putting The Nightmare Before Christmas back in the list. Granted, it's not a "classic" Disney movie in the strictest sense, but Disney has embraced it pretty strongly since then. As a few examples: The 2006 3D version was released under the Disney banner, Disney included Halloween Town in their Kingdom Hearts game right alongside all of the other "classic" Disney environments, and Jack Skellington even appears as a "meetable" character at some of the Disney Theme Parks. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 21:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Don't forget the Nightmare Before Christmas ride at Disneyland (it's only open in the fall and the winter) and Jack and Sally appearing in the 2007 Disney DVD logo. I think the original version still bears the Touchstone name, though. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Disney

SamFisher1022 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:19:09 GMT

SamFisher1022: -{{tbd}}; consensus to keep. also ; -comma

[[Image:StrongBadCinderella.png|thumb|Strong Bad as Cinderella]]
Works produced by '''[[Wikipedia:Walt Disney|Walt Disney]]''' have inspired many animators, including [[The Brothers Chaps]]. The Brothers have also made references to popular [[Wikipedia:Disneyland Park (Anaheim)|Disneyland]] and [[Wikipedia:Walt Disney World Resort|Walt Disney World]] rides and attractions.

==Appearances==
*[[Homestarloween Party]] — The Poopsmith is dressed as the title character from the [[1982]] Disney movie ''[[Wikipedia:Tron|Tron]]''.
*Email [[12:00]] — In the VCR Easter egg, one of the VHS tapes has a label that reads ''[[Wikipedia:Condorman|Condorman]]''.
*Email [[vacation]] — [[Strong Bad]] complains that Pantsburg is more boring than [[Wikipedia:Mr. Toad's Wild Ride|Mr. Toad's Wild Ride]], but admits the ride was actually fun.
*Email [[theme park]] — The [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Riverquest Safariventure|Strong Badian Riverquest Safariventure]] is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Jungle Cruise|Jungle Cruise]].
*Email [[animal]] — [[Sterrance]] is seen wearing yellow shoes that look like the ones [[Wikipedia:Mickey Mouse|Mickey Mouse]] wears.
*[[Ever and More!]] (Easter Egg) — [[Homestar Runner]] sings the ''[[Wikipedia:Ducktales|Ducktales]]'' theme song.
*Email [[licensed]] — Strong Bad shows a knock-off DVD that parodies ''[[Wikipedia:Cinderella (1950 film)|Cinderella]]''. Also, the outside wall of [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] has an image of The Cheat as a mouse with antennae and holding a pot of honey, which is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Winnie_the_Pooh#Disney_media|Winnie the Pooh]].

[[Category:Entertainment running gags]]
[[Category:Inside Jokes]]

HRWiki:Da Basement

SamFisher1022 — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:37:29 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* What HRWiki is not */ are we ready?

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== Guitar Tabs? ==

Someone posted a guitar tab for [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]. Should we extend this into a semi-project to put guitar tabs on all the songs on [[Strong Bad Sings]] with guitar/bass parts? If so, I call I get to tab [[Moving Very Slowly]]! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think this is a very worthwhile project. But then, I'm not a guitar enthusiast. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Well, Lapper, we ARE supposed to document Homestar Runner. Why not do guitar tabs? Just don't go crazy and do the SBLOUNSKCHED! theme song. Also, I don't think you can call doing something, Martyo. If you want to do it, just do it. Dibs are for [[Wikipedia:Riding shotgun|cars]] and [http://dibs.dreyers.com/ ice cream], not wikis. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Bluebry, the only reason I called it is because if we decide to do this (which we haven't yet) a bunch of transcribers are going to want to tab out songs (and some non-transcribers might do some googling to find tabs) and I don't want to miss out on a song I know how to play. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::If people want to do tabs, I think it's a great idea! That's good information that a lot of people might be interested in. That said, I tend to think it would be better to keep the tabs on a separate page, in general. I can see some of them getting kind of long, and the average person just trying to read about a given song shouldn't have to scroll through screens of guitar tabs. So, I propose that they be kept on a separate page and linked to. This way, they're easily accessible to the people who want to see them, but unobtrusive to those who don't. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I moved the guitar tab for Trogdor to [[Trogdor (song)/Tablature]] and linked to it in a "See Also" section of [[Trogdor (song)]] Before we move forward, is this what we want to do, or should we do it differently? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, having tabs would be awesome. I'd like to play [[different town]], for example. What should the naming scheme be? [[Trogdor (song)/Tablature]] is somewhat ugly. What about [[Trogdor Tablatures]], just like we do for the visuals?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Or [[Tablature: Trogdor]]. 'S perfect! Also, should we link in a see also? What about in the Detailed information area? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Having a separate namespace might be a ''little'' extreme, but I kinda like it. I'ma wait and see what others think. As for linkage, Detailed Info seems like a better way to go. That way, people don't have to search the page for a link. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe possibly maybe. Also, should we include download links for things like [http://www.power-tab.net/ Power Tab]? Or will men in black fedoras grab us for copyright violation? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Power Tab's certainly got MY approval. Most of the tabs I transcribe ARE in Power Tab. I don't see how someone could sue us for linking to their product :P. So, yeah. Power Tab = Awesome. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Also, where it says Bass, I think you should actually put the bass tablature on there. I'm sure it'll help newbies and be more professional looking to all. :-) SMILEYS ARE GREAT! {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I was just wonderin, if we will have all these tabs for songs, don't we need a page with a list of all the songs that have been tabed and link to the tabliture? If we do, i will start work on it immediately.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 23:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::We do. Trey made a category.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh man, i wanted to do it.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 23:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Undo summary ==

The undo function has proved quite popular. There's one aspect of it, however, that I don't really like: the way the username is included in the summary, forever recorded that the user was reverted. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels like a vandal rollback, which is kind of a slap in the face. (As a side note, I'm also concerned that the undo function is being used for simple reverts of the last edit; I feel like its primary purpose is to surgically fix something a few lines down in the history.) I'd like to remove the username from the automatic summary, so that a typical undo looked like this: ''(undid revision 000000; reason for the undoing)'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I agree 100% — I think it's unsettling to see one's name in the automatic part of the summary. Perhaps this is because of the similarity to the automatic summaries from the rollback feature, which is used almost exclusively to revert vandalism. I think the automatic summary for the undo feature should be revised as you propose. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::Yes. Better this way. The username in the summary is really off-putting: the effect to me seems rather like pointing a finger at another user and saying "you made this edit I undid". I'm not saying anyone ''meant'' to say this, but I do think that's the effect. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Makes sense, although if someone reverts vandalism, it might be good for the ops to be able to see at a glance who to block (yes i know they can check the history) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I actually don't particularly mind, although Dot com has noted previously that it peeves him to have his name in an edit summary not preceded by "reply to". I, personally, don't mind having my name being shown as the one being reverted, as long as there's a solid edit summary following. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::I would have thought that the current text is fine. But with people constantly using it to revert the last edit instead of undoing older edits, I wholeheartedly agree with Dot com's suggestion. It will also make edit summaries shorter and easier to read.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:::What if "revision 000000" automagically created a link to the edit (technically speaking, "&diff=prev&oldid=000000"), like this:
::::''(undid {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=492115 revision 492115}}; forum-style post)''
:::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Shouldn't we squeeze a timestamp in there? It could be as small as "8.24, 15:26", but I'd like to see when that undone revision was made, if possible. (undid {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=492115 revision 492115}} (8.24, 15:26); forum-style post). — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I thought stuff like that is recorded in RC; that is, the "diff" link is a link to the revert, and RC already tracks the time and date of ''all'' edits. I'm in favor of the plain ''(undid revision 000000; vandalism)'' — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Lapper: We don't record timestamps of the undone edit ''now'', and we do just fine. There isn't an easy mechanism to add them, either. It could be done, of course, but it would involve reworking more than a line or two of code, which is all it would take to add the link (and clicking on the link will show the old edit, including the timestamp and the editor). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like Dot Com's idea, that is link with no timestamp. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Me too.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm in. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've implemented the changes. After a little time has passed, please comment on whether you think it's an improvement. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's a good idea! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It's been a week since the new format, and I've got nothing against it. Nice and simple, and it doesn't incriminate the revertee as strongly. Great jorearb. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:I actually disagree. I thought it was a good idea, but now I see that this edit summary is less helpful. It doesn't give any context. When it still included the user name, one could guess which edit was meant just by looking at the history. That number isn't helpful in the least (unless you mouseover the links in the history and compare those 6-digit numbers - which I certainly don't do). I would prefer edit summaries like "undid edit 123456 by Stupid_ol'_Loaf".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
::If you click on the revision number it leads you to the exact edit. And I'd argue that in all edits, it's up to the editor to provide context, not the system. Havin g the system make it easier for an editor to be lazy - is that what we want? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, it's much better! this is awesome! {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== So what exactly is the "trusted user list"? ==

I noticed a few times, it seems that somewhere, this Wiki has a trusted user list, or so I saw while looking around on talk pages. So I was wondering, is it a tangible thing (meaning it actually exists) or is it just in the minds of staff members and such?--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 12:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:There is no list (and there is also no staff). Obviously, some users are trusted more by the community than others, but I don't think anybody would keep a list or something. I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, but I hope this answers your question.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::Is [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 8#Limited editability for user pages|this]] what you are referring to? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I caught up with Slipstream in IRC, that's the page he was talking about... it's all been cleared up now, nothing to worry about. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks for drawing extra attention to a dumb idea i had a long time ago... :( {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::(For those of you who have a hard time reading sarcasm over the internet, that was an example of it.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== Images accessable from both wikis ==

I contribute a lot to both of our HRWikis (the fanstuff being the other). However, I find it quite difficult that a lot of images that would be useful on the Fanstuff wiki are only hosted on the knowledge base. Someone with server side privelages might be able to make an image uploaded on one wiki accesable by the other. Sorta like Wikimedia Commons, where you upload it there, and it can be accessed by all the wikimedia projects. I would find it very easy. Tell me what you think! {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think that's an awesome idea, but I don't have server [[privaleges]]. It' up to like It's dot com or somebody like that. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::It is technically possible to do this, but relatively speaking there are so few images that are used on both wikis that the costs outweigh the benefits at this time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Exactly. There's literally no need to put forth the effort to make a commons, as HRWiki and HRFWiki really have nothing much in common that way. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I personally see value in keeping the two distinct, and that value is enjoyed on both sides. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I see the merit in allowing this, but isn't Commons a separate wiki? That means we would have to set ''another'' wiki up, migrate ''all'' the existing images from both the HRWiki and the HRFWiki to it, and force a redirect to said wiki whenever someone tries to upload another image. Sounds like too much of a waste of time, especially considering the amazingly small amount of images that actually have a point in being cross-linked. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Commons ''is'' in fact a separate wiki. That fact alone means that they could've used the english wikipedia (or in this case the HRWiki) to make the image-copying magic. It is made separate for clarity and to avoid confusion, not necessarily for technical reasons. That said, it ''is'' a lot of work to do for what may not be used all that much. At best some script could be created to extract images from the HRwiki into the fanstuff. But again, that's a bit of work and its implementation would depend on demand/benefit and an available programmer. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, we wouldn't have to put ''all'' images in Commons. 'Kipedia doesn't do that either. But I agree with Dot com and Qermaq: Only very few images would actually be shared between us and the fanstuff, making it not worth the effort. Also, I strongly argue to keep both wikis as separate as possible, content-wise. It will get messy if we don't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Preserve birthday card(s) as part of the history? ==

Okay guys, [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive_8#Preserve_birthday_card_as_part_of_the_history|we've come to that bridge and crossed it]]. Now it's time to ask the big question: Do we make a page for [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish/Talk Archive Mike Chapman's Card|Mike's card]]? I don't see why not. I already created a [[:Category:Mike's Birthday Card Images|category]] for the images. This, I think, is useful whether we make a page or not. Anywho, what have ye all to say? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah. I think we should. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 18:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, I started a [[HRWiki:Mike's 2007 birthday card|not so good article]] covering it (made before the world ended, and submitted after it came back up ;) ). Extra info would be most welcome. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Count increment broken ==

Okay, for some reason the #count+''increment'' and #resetcount [[HRWiki:Counter|parser tags]] don't seem to be working properly. (At least not from my machine -- which I seriously doubt is an issue, since it's all done server side, right?). I first found the problem in the QOW page, and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506429&oldid=506426 have}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506433&oldid=506432 tried}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506435&oldid=506434 different things}} to assess the situation and try to find a workaround. However, I've come to the following conclusions (from my observations):
#The #resetcount tag is not resetting the counts for any value (except maybe to zero)
#The ''increment'' parameter in the #count tag seems to behave in some strange way
#All the count examples in the documentation still seem to work correctly (confusing me more).
As such, I am completely baffled by this behavior. Even all the names match! Maybe It's the spaces? I don't know. This is weird. Help! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:I think it may have been a formatting issue. Does {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=506872&oldid=506371 this change}} fix the issue? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Stux, I tweaked the hresetcount template so that it properly resets the visible values on vcount, but other than that these templates and the underlying parser functions seem to be functioning in general as they should. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Ahhh... yeah! Go figure. Leave it to me to create a template, add a feature, and months later, forget all about it that it exists! So yeah, the parser code and templates were working all exactly how they were designed to work :S. It's just my methods of "debugging" were waaay off. Hehe. Ahh programming. Thanks Tom for figuring out what was really wrong with QOW! I can't believe little spaces caused so much trouble. ''Ahh, programming.'' Thanks Dot com for fixing ''hresetcount'' and adding the appropriate documentation to ''vcount''. I will be adding that info to ''hcount'' just in case I forget again. ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, I think it would be better to differentiate vcount from hcount, and not list unused features on hcount. Toward that end, I've listed both templates on hresetcount (and we should consider creating and differentiating vresetcount). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I agree, and creating vresetcount sounds like a good idea. Though doing so would mean having to check all instances where hresetcount is called and see if vresetcount needs to be called. But that shouldn't be too much trouble. For now, I added the technical info back up. I think it's important in the h/vcount pages themselves to clearly state that the two templates work separately (more so with vresetcount). (This, of course, being a bad attempt at reminding ''me'' that their separate functions. ;) ) Ok! now to watch some [[TrogdorCon '97|anime]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== RandomArea ==

I'm starting my own wiki, and when browing extensions, I found Random Area. RandomArea is like the {{tl|homsarquote}}, only it updates the maximum number of quotes by itself. I feel it would be a lot easier for new members to add quotes. [[mw:Extension:RandomArea|Click here for info]]. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 04:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:One of the features of the homsarquotes template is that it only chooses from all the quotes if it's used on the [[Homsar]] page; otherwise, it skips the first two. We could easily make the template use less code, but we set it up that way so that both the rendered list itself and the output of the template would look nice. I appreciate the suggestion, but I think we've got enough eyeballs on that page not to worry about installing anything else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::I understood that when I looked at the template, I knew it before suggesting it. Why does it need to skip the first two? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 16:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Because the first 2 aren't quotes, they're just captions. That template was originally made (and is still used) to prevent edit warring on the [[Homsar]] caption. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Deleted page talk pages ==

So the recent incident with the clapping page got me thinking that maybe we should leave talk pages from deleted pages intact so that future people can see why a page was deleted. It's not always so obvious, i mean granted, a page like "homestar is stupid and dumb" that would be tagged for speedy deletion would not need such a thing even if it somehow developed one, but for pages that actually get discussed i think it would be helpful. (Maybe also have a template for such pages?) Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Agree. It'd be very useful to see the precedents and reasonings and things behind why pages were deleted. Wikipedia keeps their discussion pages, and this is one thing of theirs I think we SHOULD emulate.
:I also like the sound of that template. Something like "This is the talk page of a deleted article. Please do not participate in the existing discussions. If you have something new to say on why this page should be re-created, please start a new section below." Or something with good words. Better words than I can write. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think preserving deletion discussions is a good idea. I kind of wonder why we haven't been already. I also think Dorian's words were fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I support this idea for the sake of preserving discussions. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I like this idea. Here are some possible ideas I came up with for text:
::::*This talk page is an archive of a deleted article. Please do not contribute.
::::*This article this talk page accompanies has been deleted. This talk page has been kept for historical reasons. Please do not contribute.
::::*This talk page is kept for historical reasons, as it once accompanied a page that has been deleted. Please do not contribute.
::::*This is a talk page of a deleted article. Please do not add to the discussions below.

::::Of course, the endings saying not to contribute can apply to all of them. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 23:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I think it is important, though to include a bit like DorianGray's line, "If you have something new to say on why this page should be re-created, please start a new section below." A running gag, for example, may not have enough appearances, but could suddenly acquire more later on, at which point the talk page would be a good place to propose that the article be recreated. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::Here's a model of what it could look like: {{tl|deletedtalk}}. It could perhaps use some improvement. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::It looks alright... we might want to edit the style a bit, but the wording seems fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I like it, too. I changed the wording [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:deletedtalk&diff=516770&oldid=515578 a little]. Maybe we should change the image to something like [[:Image:deleted.PNG|this]]? We also need to find a way to easily distinguish between archived section and currently open threads. But yes, we should definitely use this template.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Reviving? ===
Okay, since this looks like a promising idea, i also have a question about old talk pages. If we decide that this is a good idea, do we (and by WE i mean some sysop) go back and revive all the old talk pages, or is this only for the future? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:On second thought, a bot could be made to do such a thing. Still, would we? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::How would a bot know the difference between a talk page where a deletion discussion occurred and one where it didn't? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::first of all, if there IS a talk page, then it probably means it was discussed, as speedy deletion pages get deleted quickly and don't usually end up with talk, secondly, it could search for "<nowiki>'''delete'''</nowiki>", as there tends to be at least one instance of that on every deletion discussion. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There are probably a lot more deleted talk pages with no discussion than you think. Consider all the talk pages that were page-move vandalism redirects from the Willy on Wheels days. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::That's why i also suggested searching for bolded delete. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't think it's necessary for anyone (or a bot) to bother undeleting ''all'' such pages, since we've gotten along without them fine up to now. If there is an individual case where restoring an old discussion would be relevant, then we can do so as the case presents itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Another idea would be to write a script that searches the deleted pages' history (preferably in all namespaces) and finds any use of the {{tl|tbd}} template and creates a list of pages that were very likely part of the normal deletion process. This would elminate 99%+ of all the unwanted vandalism-created pages. The list can then be eyeballed for obvious undesirables, and auto-revived. The rest of the interested community can then re-tag those pages (and mark any that should be re-deleted). How hard would implementing this sound? What kind of interest would be in this idea? What do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::All of that is technically possible, but I think our focus is elsewhere right now. I maintain that restoring pages on an as-needed basis is the most practical way to go. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we need to make a template to put on all talk pages that have the accompanying article deleted. That way we have a way to find them, through a category. I don't like seeing my orphan talk pages be all willy-nilly! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:Erm... you mean {{tl|deletedtalk}} and its accompanying [[:Category:Talk pages of deleted articles|category]]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::Presactly. I haven't edited for a week and I got really lazy. Didn't even notice it's in the section above this. I'm slipping... —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Tsk, tsk. I had to reread your post twice because I thought ''*I*'' was making some mistake in reading it. What happened to your good ol' sharp self? Though if it wasn't for your post, it wouldn't have occurred to me to go back and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:toga_yoga&diff=prev&oldid=515324 tag}} toga yoga as deleted after ''someone'' who shall remain nameless *Cough*Dot Com*Cough* missed adding it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Hmm? I didn't know we'd decided to go with that template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, my apologoies! From looking at the template use and this discussion I simply ''assumed'' that it had become official. That's what I get for trying to be somewhat "funny". Sorry Dot com. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I assumed so, too. I only just noticed that the discussion for the template is actually in the section above...{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Birthday cards for TBC ''et al.'' ==

For reference, I've copied the following conversation from [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]]:
<blockquote>
Hey IRF,

How 'bout we make a card for Missy when her birthday rolls around? I can imagine she's feeling pretty left out right now. Besides, she's just as important as the Brothers Chaps. If you already have one in the works, lemme know. If you don't, talk to me, and I'd be happy to help you organize it and get it together.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}} 23:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:I have noticed that she hasn't got a card yet. I agree. Let's make a card for Missy! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

::I'm glad to see that there are others that want to do this. I want to mention 3 things: #1) I am about to go a 2 week vacation and will be out of contact for awhile (for Missy we have some time). #2) Matt's birthday is coming up much sooner that Missy's. #3) I have had the honor and privilidge of doing this twice now. I don't think it would be fair for me to hog this. Out of this experience I have had the opportunity to talk [[Karen Wagner]] a few times, which was awesome. I must also talk about access. I am not a sysop so the fact that I was trusted with the address to send things to the TBC is very rare. I think the less people that know such information, the bigger blessing that we can be as awhole to TBC. The LAST thing that we want is for sensitive information to be given to the wrong person (and I'm not imply that any of you are the wrong person) and TBC get tons of <s>fan-mail</s> crap in the mail. For these reasons, I think it best for a sysop or duly chosen user by the sysops to take the helm on this. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Matt already got a card, but Missy hasn't; I say we put her as the top priority for the moment. I see your point with the Brothers Chaps' mailing address. Not everyone could/can be trusted with valuable info like that. If that info was put in the wrong hands or was somehow leaked, TBC would be flooded with mail, and you, me, Sam, and anyone else involved would take the fall, maybe the whole Wiki, even. Maybe{{User:Loafing/sig}} could be trusted with that. After all, he is a sysop.{{User:Homestarmy_Commando1/sig}}19:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Loafing lives in New Zealand. It wouldn't be practical to ship something from there. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 10:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, let's get a sysop in the States to spearhead that. I really want to help with Missy's card, so I'll feel useful and get some recognition out of it. Do you have any ideas? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
::::::I suggest that you ask a sysop {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::HC1: As I said on my page, if you're looking for something to do there are a lot of projects (see [[HRWiki:The Stick]]) that are more practical than this. (Do we even know her birthday?) Furthermore, anything being sent on behalf of the wiki would have to go through an administrator (Joey, Tom, or me), not just a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
</blockquote>

So far, we have sent Matt and Mike physical birthday cards, and Invisible Robot Fish did an incredible job putting both of these together.

As seen above, there's some interest in continuing do something for Matt's, Mike's, and perhaps others', birthdays. I think there are a few questions we should discuss in this vein:
#Whose birthdays should we honor as a wiki?
#What should we do in the future when we want to send birthday wishes?
#Who should take charge of these projects?

<nowiki>#1</nowiki> is clearly constrained by our knowledge of when people's birthdays are. As far as I can tell, we know when Matt's and Mike's birthdays are, but that's it. And I think that's a good place to stop. Yes, Missy does the voice of Marzipan, but there are others who do just as much or more for Homestar Runner (Karen Wagner, Ryan Sterritt, etc.) — we have to draw the line somewhere, and I think stopping at Matt and Mike is a good point (especially since we don't know anyone else's birthday!).

In regard to #2, I don't think we should do the same thing if we decide to do something for Matt or Mike's birthdays again. If we keep sending them giant birthday cards, I think the idea will get stale pretty quickly. Maybe we want to do something else in the future, but I think we should think of a different idea.

Finally, with respect to #3, IRF put a great deal of work into the past birthday cards. As he has indicated above, he'd like somebody else to take the helm of future projects, and I agree that it would be very unfair for us to expect him to put in the huge amount of work necessary to send out one of these again. Also, as IRF and It's dot com mentioned in the above quoted text, any communication sent by the wiki as a whole ought to go through the bureaucrats — Joey, Dot com, or Tom — for obvious reasons we should limit the spread of TBC's contact information as much as possible.

Any thoughts about any of these points? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said above. I'm sorry for getting this whole stupid snowball rolling in the first place. I was feeling a little egoistic at the time of the first post. I guess I just needed someone to talk some sense into me. This does seem a little big for a meager user like me. Let's just go back to the way it was before my idea. Anyone else agree? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}

::Oh, I hope you don't take any of the above comments as directed against you. I thought you brought up a good suggestion — one worth discussing :) You're a good user and have nothing to apologize for :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Trey. That made me feel better. I just thought you were backing up It's dot com and making me feel worse. But you do bring up some good points above. {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
::::It was not my intention to make you feel bad, simply to point out that there are things we need done more than this, and, like Trey, question whether we wanted to continue doing this at all. It's also my responsibility to make sure anyone who wants to send anything to TBC ''on behalf of the wiki'' knows they have to go through us. I know I come across as a killjoy, but whattayagonnado. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Coup d'état? But seriously, I think it's best we only send happy birthday wishes to TBC. Don't want to go down the same slope Google did when they started doing logos for holidays no one's ever heard of. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I've seen {{p|l=http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html those}}. But also, I think TBC were happy when they got their own birthday poster. It may make them feel not as special (I don't have a better word) if we sent a poster card to every member of their family. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Would some sort of mass "Thank you" card directed specifically at the supporting staff (by name) be too tacky? Something that says "hey we really, ''really'', '''''really''''' appreciate all the work that you do to support TBC." Or something along those lines. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Specifically considering the creative and performance impact Missy has on the product, I would be in favor of including her in the birthday wishes in the event she chooses to disclose her birthday to the media or to us. Short of that, she is clearly wishing that date to remain a secret, and we have no plce infringing on that. Other than individuals actively invilved in creating the toons (Mike Matt and Missy, essentially) no others should be included as a matter of course. A 30th or 40th birthday, when known, might prove the exception. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:That is a very good point. Celebrating Missy's birthday would be cool! At best, since we don't know it, we could celebrate her ''un''birthday! We'd have a 364 in 365 chance of getting it right this year, and 365 in 366 chance of getting it right <s>this</s> next year! Not a terribly great idea but seems fun. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::Eeee. When a woman does not disclose her birthday, that means we should not acknowledge it. It would not be an appreciated move to force a birthday on her without her consent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Halloween theme ==

Is there a CSS file for the halloween skin? I really like it, and was considering using it for MySkin. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, if you go to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=history Common.css's history], you will see that is was manually modified. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::DorianGray likes to celebrate Halloween all year 'round. If you copy his [[User:DorianGray/monobook.css|monobook.css]] page into [[Special:Mypage/monobook.css|your own]], you can too! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== What HRWiki is not ==

More of a question than a suggestion, but do we have any policies or pages on [[Wikipedia:WP:NOT|what HRWiki is not?]] There seems to be a volume of new users who register thinking this is some kind of social network rather than a collaborative encyclopedia. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 00:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:User space#What should I avoid?]] touches on the subject. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::But that does not cover it. I think there should be one. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::That section in the userspace rules does address my main concern, that users don't know HRWiki isn't a social network, but I think we should make sure newbies know more about what they're getting into, or more accurately, what they're ''not'' getting into. I doubt users planning on registering know about userspace until ''after'' they create the account, then they think "Oh, I can have my own page?" and begin to treat it like some Homestar-themed Myspace. (That was what I thought when I was young and stupid, anyway.) We should make it more clear that that isn't what we are, and if we do create a new page for this it should encompass other misconceptions (I think that's the right word) as well: we aren't a paper encyclopedia, so growth of our project is virtually unlimited; we aren't adspace, while it's fine to promote one's own website, one must do so only within his or her own userspace; we aren't a soapbox, while it is occasionally necessary to give long speeches on a subject, it must remain relevant to our project of focus and we don't allow opinionated speeches on current events or politics or attitudes of self-promotion; and, of course, we aren't any of a number of [[Wikipedia:WP:BEANS|terrible ideas]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 13:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I know that this idea has been tossed around for several years, but for some reason we've never decided to act on it. Why don't you write something up, and we'll see where it goes from there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::You mean this has been suggested before? If so, I'd like a link; I think I should see how that discussion turned out before I start drafting. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if it's ever been suggested on the wiki itself, but I know it's been talked about before (I can find it in my chat logs at least as far back as 28 January 2006). I'd go ahead with a draft. If you don't want to spend a lot of time on it, it could be a very rough draft, just enough for us to get the general idea and determine if we want to keep going. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I didn't plan to make it lengthy yet, I'm just going to sort of list as many main ideas as I can think of and write brief descriptions of each. I'll put the draft on [[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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[[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT|The draft]] is done. Or it's at least been dormant long enough. I'm ready to hear what you all think. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:Made some changes and left a comment on the talk page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
All right, the discussions are finished. Any other issues before I create the page? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== Upload help ==

Uploading images is becoming a common question among new users, and to my knowledge, we don't have a Help page for uploads. Somewhere on that page (somewhere obvious, like at the top), we should state exactly what "autoconfirmed" accounts refer to: accounts that have been active for a certain amount of time. Also, more of us need to know what that certain amount of time is. I was told it was 48 hours, but [[User:TheGirl|TheGirl]] successfully uploaded her first image after about 38 hours. Does it vary with server load or something? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

:Honestly, I don't think we need an page to help with uploads; the upload page itself has plenty of information on how to do it. And as for auto-confirmation, only a note would be necessary. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, maybe a whole page is too extreme, but still, how long does autoconfirm take? If we add that to the [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I upload an image?|FAQ]], it should help tremendously. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Most likely 27 hours, if Dot com didn't change it. Just like I said on TheGirl's talk page. w00t. You can add a mention to FAQ about having to be autoconfirmed to upload an image, but we decided that the exact length of time should be an open secret. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::::It's 28 hours. That number [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 8#Semi-protection implemented|hasn't changed]], either. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles viewer on sidebar ==

As most people know, on all toons, there is a link in the sidebar for the Subtitles namespace. However, someone like me, who uses Safari and can't use Greasemonkey, uses the subtitles viewer. If we put a link to the subtitles viewer there too, below the namespace links, that would add to convience. I know it is possible, I've done something similar on my wiki. What do you think? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 21:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== New Template Categories ==

Thanks to the recent wiki software update, we now have the [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates]] page. Our goal should be to keep this list as small as possible, and while some of the templates listed can be added to existing categories, some just don't fit into any. So I suggest new categories to hold these "miscellaneous" pages. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

=== HRWiki Finances ===
:''From [[Template talk:SitenoticeDonationsLine]]
<blockquote>
I want to categorize this page to help clear the [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates|Uncategorized Templates]] list, but I can't seem to find a category to fit it in. If this does fit somewhere, I'd really appreciate if someone could add the cat to the page; if not, perhaps we should have a category that includes HRWiki's money-related pages: [[HRWiki:Donations]], [[HRWiki:Ledger]], and this. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)</blockquote>

=== Transcript Templates ===
To keep with the [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and only Once]] policy, the transcripts for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and [[Crazy Cartoon]] are written on template pages and added to their respective pages. I think we should have a category for transcript templates to house these and any more if we make more in the future. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
::I second! er... third? one-hundred-seventy-three-thousand-three-hundred-twenty-fifth? something... i agree also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

=== STUFF Templates ===
The [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] system has a lot of templates. Instead of categorizing them all as Notice or Formatting templates, I think it would be better to keep them all together in one category (though it may not hurt to add them to more than one category). — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== HRWiki:Bulletin Board ==

{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} came up with an idea that we could have a page called HRWiki:Bulletin Board that would function as a site-wide message board for to-do items, projects, and other stuff. I, personally, think that this is a great idea. Discuss. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Um, just so you know, there already exists a [[HRWiki:Projects|projects]] page that kinda does what you described. Unless the idea envisioned is radically different from this page, you should check it out. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::It's not radically different, but we do know about that. Techgeek should feel free to chime in here. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what you described was basically exactly what [[HRWiki:Projects]] is. I'm agreeing with Stux completely. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question ==

Yeah, I don't know if this is the place to ask questions like this, though I guess it will serve to help me find out, but anyway, is there an automatic way to get the little gray text that says the section you're editing in the edit summary? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 21:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:Clicking the [edit] next to the subject will automatically do it, but you can hack it in by adding <code>/* Your Text Here */</code> to your edit summary. The [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] would've been a better place to ask, by the way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism Counters: More trouble than they're worth? ==

I've noticed quite a few times that someone vandalized a page that normally the would not have done, except to change the vandalism counter, essentially "killing two birds with one stone". (there was one that i noticed that actually had that as the summary, i wish i could find it.) Here are a couple of examples: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Sysrq868&diff=523895&oldid=515622&rcid=480603] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:BazookaJoe&diff=prev&oldid=482310] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:BazookaJoe&diff=prev&oldid=152598] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

:I understand that people've had these for a while, and a lot of great users have 'em, but I've thought for a while that they're unhelpful. Maybe it's 'cause I don't understand what they're for — why is it important to advertise how much your user page has or hasn't been vandalized? The only time I really notice them is when people come along and vandalize the page by increasing the counter, and then I'm never sure if I should actually revert them! ;)

:This said, I'm not sure that we need a rule prohibiting them (the last thing we need is another rule and to have to go around informing everyone that has one that it must be removed), but I would personally prefer if people didn't have them. On the other hand, the edits you've mentioned happen pretty rarely (once every couple months or so), and since users editing other users' pages are easy to spot, they're easy to revert. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Trey56. We should not have a rule prohibiting them (really, what do you care?), but rather... discourage them. Only reason I have one is because it's pretty much the only interesting part in my userpage.

::As for these curious edits, if the vandal edits the counter appropriately (adding one), then it shouldn't be reverted, but a warning at the talk page would be in place. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 14:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I've also always wondered about whether to revert them, and when i do, the next edit is usually the owner of the userpage in question reverting me... Oh well... Anyway, i wasn't suggesting a hardcore RULE against them, just bringing up that people might want to reconsider having them, that's all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's in the interest of the wiki to have users maintain what amount to vandalism scoreboards on their user page. It seems clear there won't be concensus to have any policy changes regarding them, but I'm thinking they actually promote vandalization. And the only purpose in telling people this on userpage that I can think of is to say "I'm cool enough to have been vandalized a lot" which we don't need to be doing. Unless someone knows a different reason, to which I am all ears. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I agree that vandalism counters only encourage vandalism. They also imply that it is some kind of honour to have one's user page vandalized. Since when do we believe that vandals have any kind of good judgment? I'm not sure they should be prohibited outright, but they should definitely be discouraged.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'm with Loafing. It's obvious that vandalism counters don't serve any purpose, and though the users that have them may not treat them like trophies, that's what they do look like. I don't know if we could ''completely'' prohibit them, but that's what we should aim for. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sorting [[:Category:Articles for Discussion|Articles for Discussion]] by time since flagged ==

I often get the feeling that articles end up sitting in this category for a substantial amount of time. I think we can benefit from being able to see how long an article has been under deliberation at a glance. So I'd like to propose a small change to {{tl|tobediscussed}}:

<code>[[Category:Articles for Discussion|{{A ParserFunction to calculate today's week minus the week it was added}}]]</code>

If not, perhaps it could be added to the template inline. It's just a proposal, after all. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:<code>[[Category:Articles for Discussion|{{A ParserFunction to calculate today's week minus the week it was added}} {{PAGENAME}}]]</code> is better, so we have the name there also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If I understand the functioning of mediawiki correctly, the parser function only gets evaluated when the page is rendered: that is after an edit or a purge. That means that stale pages (those that weren't edited since the tag was added) will be stale (showing that the tag was added the same week). Moreover, all that would provide would be a number from 0-9 (or a letter from a-z or A-Z), which is why WP has specific categories for each month when tags were added. (At least it does for cleanup and source tags, not sure about delete). This wiki is so small, dated categories wouldn't be very helpful I think. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sig Box ==

Ok, our sig mantra is "it must fit in the box". However, innumerable examples exist where a sig will be in the box on one computer and not on another. The reason is the box is sized in pixels, while text is generally (optimally) sized in ems. The two measurements do not relate to each other in any regular way. Plus, replaced fonts and other crazy stuff browsers do really introduce surprises into the mix. So it's impossible to guarantee that any sig will or will not fit in a pixel box, unless that sig is entirely sized in pixels, which is sub-optimal for web authoring.

So, the question before you all is simply this: do we need to rethink how we conmtrol sig size? And if not, how do we determine when a sig is OK, even when it is oversized on some systems? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:I read "Your total signature size can only be one line, and limited to around 20 or 25 characters." on {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Signature&oldid=446393 HRWiki:Signature}}. The box is just a very helpful tool (the page says "in other words" when it introduces the box), it's not meant to be the primary essence of the rule as the rule is designed not to be terribly exact. See {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Signature&oldid=506829#Length_is_uncontrollable our last discussion of this}}, especially Dot com's last comment which I believe is a very appropriate response. In that regard, are there instances where this is an active problem? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think it bears repeating here:<blockquote>We are not concerned with the fact that, if you really try, you can configure your system to make all signatures violate the policy. What we ''are'' concerned with is how a signature renders on the majority of browsers that are used to visit the wiki under ''normal'' conditions. The pixel definition is a useful tool to help us make a call, and it works well under most circumstances. Any time when it wouldn't work would be so infrequent as to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)</blockquote>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::Wow, that's a trip down memory lane. The text on the page reads "Your total signature size can only be one line, and limited to around 20 or 25 characters. In other words, it must fit inside this box." There's no saying one is more important than the other. It's implied that the two are equivalent, when they simply are not. Dot Com's comments are decidedly vague, actually, and essentially say "we have no strict solution, and will make a call if there's a problem". I'm wondering if there's a way to avoid the ambiguity and use a rule that will apply more universally.

::As far as a current issue, I was clearly moved to comment by [[User talk:Kermit1234/sig#Your sig|this discussion]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If a sig is out by a pixel or even a letter, then it's not that big a deal. We've had the current standard for a while, and it does what it's supposed to do: keep signatures at a manageable length. If a consensus of people think a sig is unreasonably long based how the standard is displayed on their computers, then we say something. (Aftr all, the standard is for people who have to view others' signatures, not their own.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::(after conflict) Regarding that specific situation: If that user is using a font that doesn't appear on most users' systems (and makes his sig that much longer because of it), then we're justified in continuing to say something. The key is, what do most people see when they see his sig? Is there anything (changing fonts, removing images) that can be done to bring the signature to conform to our standard on a majority of users' systems? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

== End of the Year Update ==

Hello guys, another year as come and gone (too fast...) and it's time for another update! I'm guessing all of our stuff is gone, and I know this is done very infrequently, however I went ahead and made a [[User:Stux/Yearly Turnover|checklist]] for this rare event for future generations to enjoy and take advantage of.

However, I would like to point out that {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates&redirect=no H*R.com updates}} has not been updated because it is protected. I updated the talk page (even if the redirect target does not ''yet'' exist). I am writing this for two reasons:
#obviously the redirect needs to be updated
#is there a need for the page to be protected? Any previous threats of vandalism have waned and I know it's generally the wiki's policy to protected unless absolutely necessary, and I currently see no such need.
Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:We should move that checklist somewhere into the project space. The updates page (now a redirect) was [[HRWiki:Protection Log|protected]] because way back in the day it was a target of unwanted edits and vandalism. That reason has ceased to be relevant, so I've unprotected it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Before I move the page into the project namespace, I'm wondering: would a page listing all the checklists be of any use? That is, it would list the [[Talk:Quote of the Week]], [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]], etc. checklists (can't think of others that need to be done). I'm not entirely sure as to the benefit, but it's good to have all checklists have some visibility and ease of access (from anywhere on the wiki). Alternatively, links to the checklists could be added to a '''See Also''' section. I ask because this would determine the page's name. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Category? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Great idea Qermaq! I've created the [[:Category:Checklists|category]] and moved the page to its new [[HRWiki:Annual Checklist|home]]. I'll be making shortcuts, soon! Mmmm shortcake... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

== [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]] linking ==

Hi guys, after {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Annual_Checklist&diff=534194&oldid=534012 adding}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Annual_Checklist&diff=534195&oldid=534194 notes}} to the [[HRW:AC|Annual Checklist]] based on {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Suudsu&curid=14302&diff=534127&oldid=514203 some}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=alternate_universe&curid=22046&diff=534095&oldid=531458 edits}} [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]] had to make, I realized there must be a better way to do this. Since [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008]] and [[Sketchbook 2008]] already exist and now redirect to their current counterparts (which should from now one with the checklist in place), and since we have anchor redirects, I think the best course of action would be that any new Weekly Fanstuff and Sketchbook links be constructed as <code><nowiki>[[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#</nowiki>''anchor name here'']]</code>
instead of <code><nowiki>[[Weekly Fanstuff#</nowiki>''anchor name here'']]</code> (and similarly for the Sketchbook). This would save us the trouble of having to scour for these links at the end of the year, yet they'd still work correctly this year. If we decide to follow this idea, how to we make this note prominent so that editors are aware of them when making such links? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Occasionally, I ''do'' make such links when adding or fixing an anchor, or other similar edits. You make a good point, yes. This should probably be done. Nothing wrong with a little future-proofing. Or redirects, for that matter. That's why we have them. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::I've {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H*R.com_updates_2008&diff=535021&oldid=535019 switched}} the links in that page as discussed above. Following [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#.28Don.27t_Fear.29_The_Redirect|this section]] I'm guessing we think it's desirable. Comments? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Two more for the history books ==

Hey guys, I just ran into these two pages: [[HRWiki:Block log]] and [[HRWiki:Upload log]] which like [[HRWiki:Protection log]] and [[HRWiki:Deletion log]] should belong in [[:Category:HRWiki History]], but currently do not. They are all protected so I bring these up here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== Checklist Sign up Sheet ==

While the [[Talk:Quote of the Week|Weeklies Checklist]] has been kept up beautifully. Other checklists like [[Talk:Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Email]], which has become quite complex, (and [[Talk:Podstar Runner|Podstar Runner]] is new) seem to be falling into some level of disregard. The most visible and common tasks have been taken care of, but the more tedious ones (like updating {{tl|StrongBadEmailInfo}}) may not be taken care of right away. To that end I would like to propose a Weekly Checklist Sign up Sheet whose purpose is ''solely'' to track whether or not one or more users ''verified'' that each item in the checklist (except for [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]]) was updated. This doesn't mean that the user has to update the list. The signature only means that all the items have been "checked off". This would ensure that at least one pair of eyes went methodically through the list making sure no stone was left unturned. Currently, we have no way of knowing if a person actually went through the checklist, or was just trying to remember some steps from memory. I know some people may think is might be too much, but given how complex some of these lists can be, it is soon becoming a necessity. I welcome your opinions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:I have something in the works to help with the Strong Bad Email checklist. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

pet show

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:29:48 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{sbenav|189}}

[[Image:sbemail189.png|thumb|Brought to you by Cat Mess]]

Strong Bad enters The Cheat in the [[Cat Mess Inbredtational Pet Show]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|The Announcer}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]], {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}} (Easter Egg), {{film|The Sneak}} (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Mad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Gymnasium]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 4, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:44

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Continue to roast your Strong Bad email until it reaches an internal temperature of 189. ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject:pet show</div>
Haihai Strong Bad 
Have you ever thought of entering The Cheat in a pet show? 
Have fun, 
Sarah, QLD 
</blockquote>
''{reads QLD as "Quick, Look Down"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look down?!

''{Cut to Homestar kneeling at Strong Bad's feet, holding a spoon with relish on it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahhhh...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Strong Bad kicks Homestar away}'' Braugh! ''{cut back to the Lappy}'' Whoa! Thanks for the warning, Sarah. Homestar's always trying to give me the old relish foot. ''{typing}'' Have I ever entered The Cheat in a pet show? The Cheat? No. But I have entered Saberlord's Scritchascratch Cakemonger The Cheat in plenty! That's his show name acourse. Oh yeah, The Cheat's got papers. He's won Best in Sheen four years in a row!

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Strong Mad rubbing The Cheat with "Schlembaugh's skillet-fried Hoosier 'Nuts!" brand doughnuts. The Cheat's eyes are much larger than they usually are.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just sit still! There's three dozen more where that came from. Last year was way too close a race. This year we need a secret weapon. Strong Mad, hand me the Bavarian Cream!

''{Strong Mad holds up a Bavarian Cream doughnut}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{sighs}''

''{cut to Strong Sad brushing The Cheat in the laundry room}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And I told him, if he wants to show up thirty minutes late, ''{The Cheat responds}'' then he can find someone else. ''{Strong Sad raises his index finger}'' Because ''my time'' is valuable. Mm-hmm. I'm takin' these night classes, gonna get an education... ''{The Cheat responds. Strong Sad holds up a mirror}'' Does the back look okay?

''{cut to Strong Bad's basement. Strong Bad and The Cheat are on the couch, with Strong Mad looking over the back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' With a rusty fork and a guitar string. Good response! Me too, actually. All right, what if they ask you about the world situation?

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh.

''{Strong Mad smiles widely}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "Meh"! Classic! That'll really knock 'em dead. ''{cut to closeup of Strong Bad}'' Especially that stodgy old Madame Bodewell. That lady's got it in for us. ''{back to the three on the couch}'' Just 'cuz you peed on her dress that one time.

'''STRONG MAD:''' I'M SORRY.

''{cut to gold plated [[Cat Mess]] trophy with bags of Cat Mess along the side}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Welcome back to the Cat Mess Inbredtational Pet Show, ''{fade into the gym where the contest is taking place, panning along the table}'' where the hotly contested Best In Sheen competition is just getting underway! ''{camera stops on Marzipan and Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, man, Marzipan. We're gonna clean house this year. ''{two-shot}'' We're gonna clean apartment! We're gonna clean dorm room! We're gonna clean time share! ''{Marzipan puts a leash on Homestar}''

''{cut Strong Bad and The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat. This is gonna be a piece of cake for you. It's gonna be a piece of pie! It's gonna be a piece of cobbler! It's gonna be a piece of novelty dessert pizza! Now get out there and do your thing! ''{The Cheat dashes off}''

''{a montage of The Cheat interfering with the show: The Cheat puts a drop of Puke Drops into Mme. Bodewell's water, distracts Pom Pom with a pinup girl and breaks Trivia Time with a toy, gnaws on The King Of Town's low fat grill's power cord, and dances in front of a sign that says "Dance Competition?"}''

''{a wipe with the Pet Show logo reveals Pom Pom and a repaired Trivia Time}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And now, for the judges' scores! Pom Pom and Trivia Time: 3.5! Good GPA, terrible pet show score. ''{wipe with the Pet Show logo to The King Of Town}'' The King Of Town and an As Seen on TV Low-Fat Cooking Device: Not supposed to be here!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I told you you'd never amount to anything! I'm not even your real father!

''{wipe with the Pet Show logo to Homestar Runner on his knees with a leash}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And Fluffle's Buffles Scruffle's Truffles Homestar Runner!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' My friends call me Scruffle's.

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' 8.5! ''{wipe with Pet Show logo to Strong Bad and The Cheat}'' And Saberlord's ''{unintelligible}'' The Cheat: Disqualified for flagrant use of relish foot!

''{cut to Strong Bad's feet, one of which has relish on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Scruffle's wins!

''{cut back to Strong Bad and The Cheat, Homestar enters from the left with the leash still on and holding the trophy}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, well, Strong Bad. Looks like you finally got a taste of your own medicine. A taste of your own potion. A taste of your own elixir! A taste of your own— ''{The Cheat throws a toy at Homestar and he falls down}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Don't worry, we're currently appealing the decision of the judges. We're also currently a-peeling ''{pull back to a wider shot with The Cheat peeling in a pile of...}'' POTATOES! ''{Strong Bad jumps into the pile and a banner and confetti comes down}''

''{The [[New Paper]] comes down and the screen darkens}''

''{after a short pause}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat. Do you think we successfully glossed over the fact we lost the competition?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, is there anything potatoes can't do?

==Easter Eggs==
*After the final bit of dialogue, click on the floppy disk container to see a series of takes on Strong Bad's other interpretations of QLD.
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reading}'' Have fun, Sarah. Quarter leg, dark. Are you trying to order fried chicken? ''{beep; scene restarts}'' Sarah. Quiet loser dork. Well, it's very big of you to admit that. ''{beep}'' Quivering Live Dwarves! Uh... That's my new album name. ''{beep}'' Quit lumbering down. Hey, I'm not lumbering down! ''{beep}'' Quickly losing dignity. Yes... Yes you are.
*At the end, click on Strong Bad's legs to see Sir Strong Bad and The Sneak's 'plague show'.
*:'''OLD TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Yesss, good show, The Sneak! You've got more infectious diseases than any other vermin here!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*QLD is the abbreviation for [[Wikipedia: Queensland|Queensland]] in Australia.
*The Cheat having "[[Wikipedia:Pedigreed animal documentation|papers]]" means that he has proof of being a [[Wikipedia:Purebred|purebred]].
*The pet show seems to be a cross between [[Wikipedia: Miss America|Miss America]] contest and [[Wikipedia: AKC National Championship|American Kennel Club National Championship]].
*Long names, like those given to The Cheat and Homestar, are commonly given to show animals as a way of showing lineage and distinguish them as unique animals.
*Relish foot is a play on [[wiktionary:hotfoot|hotfoot]].
*In slang, the exclamation "[[wiktionary:meh|meh]]" stands for one of indifference, neutrality, or just plain uncaring
*GPA stands for [[Wikipedia:Grade (education)#United States|Grade Point Average]], a discrete evaluation system used in education in the United States. Since the maximum possible score is generally 4.0, 3.5 is considered a good score.

===Trivia===
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#monkey island|monkey island]]".
*Strong Mad [[Strong Mad smiling|smiles]], and [[Strong Bad smiling|so does Strong Bad]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad deposits the hairbrush into and retrieves the mirror from [[Hammerspace]].

===Goofs===
[[Image:Relish Foot.PNG|thumb|150px|Lemme turn around real quick...]][[Image:HomestarLeash.png|thumb|150px|Run Homestar, you're free!]]
*When Strong Bad looks down at his "relish foot", he is facing the table. When the screen moves down so that the viewer can see the relish foot, we can see from his thumbs that he's facing away from the table. When Homestar arrives, Strong Bad is suddenly facing the table again.

===Fixed Goofs===
*"Unintelligible" during The Cheat's score announcement was misspelled "Unitntelligible". This was fixed the next day.
*At the end where Strong Bad jumps into the pile of potatoes, the text on the Lappy was displayed upside down.
*For the first few seconds right when the toon went to Homestar's and Marzipan's score announcement, the rope on Homestar's leash was not connected to the collar and was folded upward.
*When the camera first panned to Homestar and Marzipan, the wooden floor remained stationary.

===Inside References===
*"Inbredtational" is a [[portmanteau]] of "[[Wikipedia:Inbreeding|inbred]]" and "invitational".
*Cat Mess previously appeared in [[lady fan]].
*The King Of Town says he's not the Cooking Device's real [[Parents|father]].
*This is another example of [[Pom Pom's girls]].
*[[Trivia Time]] being [[Pom Pom]]'s entry refers to its original purpose as Pom Pom's pet, before the idea was discarded by The Brothers Chaps.
*"As Seen on TV Low-Fat Cooking Device" is another use of [[Nondescript Nouns]].
*This is another appearance of [[The Cheat gnawing]].

===Real-World References===
*The "As Seen on TV Low-Fat Cooking Device" closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:George Foreman Grill|George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine]] brand portable grill.
*This email was released two days after the 2008 [[Wikipedia: AKC National Championship|American Kennel Club National Championship]] dog show.
*The object that The Cheat uses to break Trivia Time and to throw at Homestar is the front 1/3 of a {{p|l=http://www.bugeyedmonster.com/toys/starbird/ Milton Bradley Starbird}} from 1978. There is a long tail section that could be removed with a variety of spaceship parts that could be reconfigured. Seen here is the Starbird's Command Module with its two flashing "lasers" in the front.
*The description of this email in [[New Stuff]] ("''The Cheat has freaking papers, Dude''") is a reference to [[The Big Lebowski]].

==External Links==
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Jibblies 2

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:29:26 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ween07|Decemberween Short Shorts|Fan Costumes '07}}
[[Image:Jibblies 2 Rocoulm Pom Pom Strong Sad.png|thumb|"Come on in heeeeere."]]

The [[Horrible Painting]] wreaks havoc on the citizens of [[Free Country, USA]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Mad}}, [[Horrible Painting]], {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{film|The Goblin}}

See '''[[Jibblies 2 Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[Strong Mad's Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Bar]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], Inside the [[Horrible Painting]]

'''Date:''' Monday, October 29, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 6:44

'''Page Title:''' Buy a bag, go home in a box!

==Transcript==
''{Strong Mad stands in front of a mirror labeled "Man of the Year" and "TIME", and places a Russian hat on his head while grunting contentedly. He becomes confused and turns away from the mirror.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I FORGOT MY RUSKIE FLAG!

''{Foreboding music starts to play as Strong Mad walks to and opens the closet.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeere....

'''STRONG MAD:''' AUGH! JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE JIBBLIE!

''{Title appears: "Jibblies 2", "an incredibly scary halloween-type cartoon", "made by the same people who always make these cartoons", "okay, maybe it's not that scary"}''

''{Cut to The Stick.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}'' ''{flips a hat onto The Stick}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, he looks adorable. Get a picture. Get a picture.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises; imitating the shutter click}'' ''{takes a picture with an imaginary camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's a keeper.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{querying The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I don't know where Strong Mad is. You'd better go check on him.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}'' ''{walks away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{calling out}'' Make sure he didn't get into our stash of razor blade candy apples again! ''{pause; to The Stick}'' I hate you.

''{Cut to The Brothers Strong's house.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{walking in}'' ''{casual The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to Strong Mad standing with his eyes shut and twitching violently.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{screams, flails arms wildly}''

''{Strong Mad continues moaning and twitching. The Cheat stands in the doorway in shock and the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeeeere....

''{The Cheat turns around and is bombarded with green circles emanating from the Horrible Painting. Cut to a statue shaking on the shelf while The Cheat continues screaming.}''

''{Cut to Marzipan playing a yellow guitar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing off key (see [[#Trivia|below]]) with the notes}'' E... A... D... G.... ''{phone begins to ring}'' Homestar, could you get that?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' No way!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{annoyed}'' Homestar, I'm busy tuning my costume! ''{strums}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' And ''I'm'' busy not answering the phone!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Humph. ''{Cut to answering machine with 666 waiting messages; foreboding music plays.}'' Oh, great, you made me miss it.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{answering machine recording}'' Boo! This is Marzipan. Leave me a spooky message. ''{beep}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{answering machine recording}'' Come on in heeeeeere.... ''{green circles emanate from the speaker}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Jibblie jibblie jibblie... ''{continues while her eyes appear swirled}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously; walks on screen}'' Marzipan! I'm done not answering the phone! Do you still need me to answer the phone? Marzipan? What are you doing? Are you playing a song? What is that? Raspberry Beret? Wait, what's that? You say you want me to go out by myself and leave you here? Okay! If you say so! ''{walks away}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{continuing insulting The Stick, from earlier}'' ...and your stupid face! And your stupid face!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{walking on screen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{to The Stick}'' Hey, The Cheat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, if it isn't the Human Grate On My Nerves! Don't you have an estranged girlfriend to be annoying somewhere?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Naw, she's busy shimmying and shaking and talking about giblets or something.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jibbilits? ''{foreboding music}'' Wait, Homestar, are you telling me that Marzipan has the jibblies?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, I think that's a bit of a personal question.

'''STRONG BAD:''' We gotta hurry! Strong Mad and The Cheat are in great...-ve... danger! ''{runs off}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pause; to The Stick}'' I hate you, The Stick.

''{Cut to The Brothers Strong's house.}''

''{Homestar and Strong Bad peek in the doorway and gasp. Cut to The Cheat and Strong Mad, who both have the jibblies.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh no! We're snowed in! ''{cut back to Homestar and Strong Bad}'' I mean, we're too late! I know who's behind all this! ''{walks to and opens closet, revealing a stuffed dinosaur}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Poodonkis is behind all this?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no, not Strong Mad's stuffed ''Dromiceiomimus''. There's usually this really horrible painting in there. ''{cut to Horrible Painting}'' Of some kind of demon holding a torch. Why is he holding that torch?!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, you mean the jibblies painting.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{abrupt record scratch}'' Wait, you know about it?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jibblies via phone line? It's worse than I thought!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Poodonkis must be stopped!

''{Cut to a table.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{deals a card}'' Oh, the Clutch of Glaives. ''{to Pom Pom}'' That means you should start sending some hot chicks over to your ''{pats his belly}'' dumpier friends. ''{flips another card}'' Ooh, and the Cult of Ray. That means you should ''{puts hands on hips}'' seriously stop hogging all the hot chicks!

'''POM POM:''' ''{accusatory bubbling noises}'' ''{points at Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Don't look at ''{pats his belly}'' me! The cards do not lie! ''{flips over a card with the demon from the Horrible Painting on it, which reads, "THE ROCOULM".}'' Weird. I've never seen this one before.

''{The card flashes and suddenly the Horrible Painting appears on the far wall.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeeere....

'''STRONG SAD:''' Jibblie jibblie jibblie... ''{continues while twitching his fingers}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{jibblie-like bubbling noises accompanied by electrical sounds from his costume; continues}''

''{Cut to a silhouetted backdrop of outside Bubs' Concession Stand. Homestar and Strong Bad are seen running towards it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs!! Bubs!!

''{Cut to view of inside Bubs' Concession Stand looking outward}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We're gonna need garlic, crosses, silver bullets, holy water, and VHS copies of Pumpkinshead 2 through 4! Bubs?

'''BUBS:''' ''{offscreen}'' Jibblie!

''{Cut to behind Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs?

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie!

''{Bubs is sitting on the ground, obviously jibblified.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We're snowed in again!

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie?

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Homestar, we're on our own.

'''BUBS:''' Jibblie!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All the good characters have already been jibblied.

'''BUBS:''' Ahh... jibblie.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What about Coach—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupts}'' ''All''... the good... characters.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What we gonna do?

'''STRONG BAD:''' We gotta hide, man! That thing is unstoppable! We'll live underground and slowly evolve into mole people with gross eyes and claws. ''{forms his hands into claws and hisses}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sounds like a plan!

''{Cut to the showers in Coach Z's locker room.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, when it's Hallerwern night and there's an insane paintin' running around, there's no safer place for a pretty young thing like me than in the shower. My good man, would ya please pass the Port Plus?

''{Cut to the Horrible Painting in the corner, wearing a shower cap}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeeeere.

''{Cut back to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Jorbaly jorbaly jorbaly... ''{continues}''

''{Cut to the castle.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ding-dang-it, Poopsmith, I want me some of that giblet flu that's been going around. That mess sounds delicious!

''{Zoom in on the castle wall, a rock slides out of it, revealing the painting's face behind it}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Guess what, come on in heeeere.

''{Cuts back to the King of Town and the Poopsmith}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oooh, giblet giblet... ''{continues}''

''{The Poopsmith's mouth quivers and he holds up sign that says, "Jibblie Jibblie". Cut to the couch in Strong Bad's basement where Strong Bad and Homestar peek their head up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now all the lame characters have been jibblied too!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Eh-hem.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Eh, sorry man. All but one.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you very much.

''{Close-up of Strong Bad behind the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, time to start evolving into mole people. Now shut your eyes really tight ''{closes eyes}'' and try and heighten your other senses. ''{grunts and feels about for Homestar}'' Eh, Homestar?

''{Strong Bad opens his eyes and sees the Horrible Painting sitting where Homestar was moments ago.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come... on... in heeeere!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not again! Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie... ''{continues wildly while hurtling into the air, dancing across the ceiling, and finally landing behind the couch. The Painting lands on the couch just before Homestar enters, carrying a sandwich on a plate.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sorry, makin' a sandwich. What did you just say?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeere.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Come on in there? Okay. ''{steps into painting}''

''{Cut to a dungeon-like cave with a torch hanging on the wall. Homestar steps into the cave, having been transformed into a stylized, differently-colored version of himself.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, nice style! Hello? I came on in here!

''{The Rocoulm is sitting in a corner and waves.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' How's it going, man?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pretty good, creeptake. Is this your house?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' It's not much, but it's hooome. I plan to redo the kitchen.

''{Shot of the kitchen, which has a sink and a urinal. The sink drips once.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That is literally so great. Listen, uh, how come you jibblized all my friends?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' I just wanted someone to come on in heeere. I looove to entertaaain.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What about that guy?

''{Shot of the Goblin dancing while the Goblin music plays. Cut back to Homestar and the Horrible Painting.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' That guy has serious problems.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. Well, if I let you entertain me, will you un-jibblify my pals?

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Yes, but you will have to stay here with me for all eternity.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, no sweat. I love eternity.

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Then it is done. ''{says "Come on in heeeere" backwards}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{flying into the air}'' Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie Jibblie Super Scope 6! ''{lands on the couch}'' Whoa, the Jibblies are gone! I'm saved!

''{The Cheat and Strong Mad walk in from the left.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' ME TOO.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad, The Cheat, you're all right! Everything is back to normal.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Marzipan walks in from right}'' You guys, have you seen Homestar?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{annoyed}'' What are you doing in my house?

''{Cut to Strong Mad's closet. The Horrible Painting is back inside, only now Homestar is sitting next to the demon. Both are holding cups of tea and there is a slice of cake on the ground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So... is it eternity yet? I think it is eternity already. Oops, it's five past eternity. You better let me go. Beep, beep, beep! Your eternity alarm is going off; it's probably time to send me home.

''{Fade to black; a card reading, "END of TOON" is tossed into view.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan is supposed to be making me some giblets or something...

''{Final stinger music plays as background color flashes white and black. Cut to the standard ending scene of the various characters wearing their costumes.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on The Poopsmith's head during the King of Town scene to see a clip of Homsar and The Horrible Painting that will play right after it:
:'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in here?
:'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a touchy feely-holic! ''{Homsar's hat levitates and green circles emanate from inside it}''
:'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{Sliding off the screen}'' Jibblie jibblie jibblie!

*At the end, click on Bubs:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Bubs, nice "Schneider from ''One Day at a Time''" costume.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No way. He's Monroe from ''Too Close For Comfort''.
:'''BUBS:''' You're both ''way'' off! Marzipan, do you know who I am?
:'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know.
:''{Some green slime falls from above and splashes on Marzipan. She frowns.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Daaa... I heard that.

*At the end, click on Strong Bad.
:'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad! I thought you was gonna dress up as as the alien this year!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{simultaneously with Coach Z's line "this year"}'' Xenomorph! Xenomorph!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I was gonna, but when I got to the Hammakers Slammakers, they were all sold out. I did get an awesome Shiatsu massage wine opener, though.

*At the end, click on Marzipan:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, the girlfriend formerly known as Marzipan, I think you missed a little bit when you were shaving. ''{Marzipan frowns}'' Right there, about the sideburns area.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' More like the former girlfriend known as Marzipan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sounds like a plan!

*At the end, click on Homestar:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Pom Pom, now that I'm the strongest man... in the world... let me get that golbol.
:''{Pom Pom gets out the golbol and tosses it into the air. It spins downward and hits Homestar on the head and then flies offscreen.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ow!

*At the end, click on Strong Sad:
:'''STRONG SAD:''' So wait. Was there ever a ''Jibblies 1''?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Nah, horror movies don't even need first movies anymore. This is the reboot of the reimagining of the reinvention of the original!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' "Original" and "horror movie"? Not these days.

*At the end, click on The King of Town:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' King of Town, I gotta hand it to ya: that is one great melted Don King outfit.
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh, I could go for a box of melted King Dons myself.

*At the end, click on The Poopsmith:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Good smells? Where The Poopsmith's going, he doesn't need good smells. ''{The Poopsmith adjusts his glasses}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"{{p|l=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ruskie&defid=70720 Ruskie}}" is [[Wikipedia:Cold War|Cold War]]-era slang for a Russian person, most commonly used by Americans during the Cold War. It is a corruption of the Russian word "русский" (pronounced "rooski"), which means "Russian" in the Russian language.
*The cards on the loading and end screen, and during Pom Pom's and Strong Sad's scene, are modeled after the 22 [[Wikipedia:Major Arcana|major arcana]] cards of a [[Wikipedia:Tarot|tarot deck]]. As Strong Sad is doing, they are often used for fortune telling, and have various meanings depending on location and order.
*Most of the supplies Strong Bad asks Bubs for are traditional weapons against mythological creatures: garlic against vampires, silver bullets against werewolves, and holy water and crosses against demons.
*Strong Bad's mention of razor blade candy apples refers to the [[Snopes:horrors/mayhem/needles.asp|urban legend]] of unscrupulous people leaving dangerous items like needles and razor blades embedded in Halloween treats.
*In place of the Painting in Strong Mad's closet is a stuffed Dromiceiomimus. Dromiceiomimus was an ornithomimid dinosaur (commonly called "ostrich dinosaurs") from late Cretaceous Canada, closely related to Gallimimus. Unlike the stuffed toy Strong Mad has, Dromiceiomimus had no teeth.
*When Marzipan gets the message from the Horrible Painting it is message number 666, the [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|Number of the Beast]].

===Trivia===
*While tuning her guitar, Marzipan plays an A while singing E, D while singing A, G while singing D and B while singing G.
*The [[Hanging Objects#Marzipan's House|"Thank You" painting]] in Marzipan's house is dressed up in orange and black for Halloween.
*When the Horrible Painting demon un-jibblifies everyone, the [[Reversed Dialogue|backwards]] sound clip is merely his classic line "come on in here" reversed.
*Strong Sad's tarot cards have "Uh OH, TAROT!" written on the back of them.
*Originally, this toon did not contain the Easter eggs for The King of Town or The Poopsmith. They were added about a day after the toon's release.
*The [[Irregular Loading Screen|loading screen]] reads "the LOADING".
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] through most of the toon, except right before he is jibblied.

===Remarks===
*When Homestar Runner and The Goblin are inside the Horrible Painting, they appear in [[Wikipedia:CMYK color model|cyan, magenta, yellow, and black]] colors only.
*When Pom Pom gets the jibblies, the "mouth" of his Cacodemon costume pulses with electricity the same way the Cacodemon sprite in ''[[Wikipedia:Doom (video game)|Doom]]'' was animated when it used its electricity projectile attack.
*Marzipan's guitar only has five strings pictured. Also, she names the lowest four strings of a guitar, but plays and sings the pitches A, D, G, B (i.e. starts with the second lowest string).
*Marzipan walks toward her answering machine when she tries to answer the phone, but the phone is not on the same table as the answering machine.
*This is the first Halloween toon that does not take place in the [[Spooky Woods]] at any point.
*The tarot card reading "End of Toon" is numbered 27 in roman numerals - a standard tarot deck includes only Major Arcana cards numbered up to 21, also usually in roman numerals.
*In [[bottom 10]] and [[More Fan Costumes]], the jibblies only lasted a few seconds, but in this toon they last until the painting says "Come on in here" backwards.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat goes into Strong Mad's room, a line can be seen on the wall to the left of the door.
*Strong Sad's mouth doesn't move while speaking after he has been jibblified.
*Clicking on Homsar at the end causes his costume name to disappear.
*When you click on any character at the end with an Easter egg, the King of Town's necklace and The Poopsmith's glasses shift to the left slightly and Strong Bad's and Marzipan's mouths change, then return to normal when the dialogue is over.
**The mouths do not change during Bubs', Strong Bad's or Strong Sad's Easter eggs.

===Fixed Goofs===
*At the end, when everyone's costume is revealed, the name of former pro wrestler [[Wikipedia:Nikolai Volkoff|Nikolai Volkoff]] was misspelled. This has since been corrected.
*When the camera zoomed out to show Marzipan having the jibblies, the buttons weren't on the answering machine. This was fixed later.

===Fixed Glitches===
*When this toon was released, during the close up of Marzipan's Answering Machine, the "next" button was clickable, and doing so repeatedly caused the sound to go out of sync with the animation. This was fixed at the same time that the King of Town and Poopsmith Easter eggs were added.
*At the end of the toon, Homsar would still show scroll-over information while any other Easter eggs were in effect. This was also fixed when the King of Town and Poopsmith Easter eggs were added.

===Inside References===
*The STRONG MAD RD sign on the closet first appeared in [[bottom 10]], though it was partially obscured by the border.
*Strong Bad [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by mentioning the cartoon's title and exclaiming the painting got all the good and lame characters.
*When Marzipan has the Jibblies, Homestar says "What are you doing? Are you playing a song?" in almost exactly the same way as in [[Sensitive to Bees]].
*"We're snowed in!" was previously used on [[Main Page 16]].
*The name of the Horrible Painting's tarot card, 'The Rocoulm', was previously referenced in the [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File|weeklies.xml]] file. The link to the Horrible Painting in the weeklies.xml file (before that link was removed) was "rocoulm".
*Pom Pom giving Homestar the [[golbol]] at the end is a reference to [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Coach Z asks Strong Bad why he wasn't the alien, as he appeared to be in the toon's [[Jibblies 2 Teaser|teaser trailer]].
*This cartoon contains a variation on [[couch mumbling]].
*Strong Mad's stuffed dromiceiomimus is another instance of [[dinosaurs]].
*The Poopsmith pulls his sign from [[Hammerspace]].
*This is the seventh straight Halloween toon where a Homsar Easter egg is accessed by clicking on or near the Poopsmith.
*Strong Bad's line about tainted Halloween candy (specifically, the razor blade candy apples) is a reference to Homestar mentioning lead candy in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], the 2003 Halloween toon.
*The Horrible Painting first gave Strong Bad the [[Jibblies]] in [[bottom 10]].

===Real-World References===
*The page title is taken from the tagline of the 1991 horror movie ''[[Wikipedia:Popcorn (1991 film)|Popcorn]]''.
*Strong Mad uses a [[Wikipedia:Person of the Year|''Time'' Magazine Man of the Year]] mirror almost identical to one seen in the film [[The Big Lebowski]].
*[[Poodonkis]] the [[Wikipedia:Dromiceiomimus|Dromiceiomimus]] stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from [[Wikipedia:Dinosaur Comics|Dinosaur Comics]].
* "[[Wikipedia:Raspberry Beret|Raspberry Beret]]" was a hit for Prince & The Revolution in 1985.
* ''[[Wikipedia:The Mole People|The Mole People]]'' was a 1956 science fiction film starring John Agar.
*''[[Wikipedia:One Day at a Time|One Day at a Time]]'' is a long-running American situation comedy that portrayed a divorced mother, played by Bonnie Franklin, her two teenage daughters, and their building superintendent, Dwayne Schneider, played by Pat Harrington Jr. It ran from 1975 to 1984 on [[Wikipedia:Columbia Broadcasting System|CBS]].
* ''[[Wikipedia:Too Close for Comfort (TV series)|Too Close For Comfort]]'' was a American situation comedy starring Ted Knight as a San Francisco cartoonist sharing a duplex. Jim J. Bullock played the character of Monroe. The show ran from 1980 to 1985 on [[Wikipedia:American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] and in syndication.
*The Bubs Easter egg contains references to two running gags from ''[[Wikipedia:You Can't Do That On Television|You Can't Do That On Television]]'': people getting slimed when they say "I don't know," and Barth the Chef (also played by Les Lye) saying "I ''heard'' that!" when someone made a wisecrack about the meat he puts in his hamburgers.
*''[[Wikipedia:The Cult of Ray|The Cult of Ray]]'' is a 1996 album by Frank Black.
*[[Wikipedia:Xenomorph (Alien)|Xenomorph]] is the technical name for the alien species in the [[Wikipedia:Alien (film series)|Alien]] movies.
*"The Clutch of [[Wikipedia:Glaive#Other uses|Glaives]]" card is a reference to the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Krull (film)|Krull]]''. In it, the hero possessed a weapon called "The Glaive" that looked identical to the picture on Strong Sad's tarot.
*Strong Bad's mention of "Hammaker's Slammakers" in the Easter eggs refers to [[Wikipedia:Hammacher Schlemmer|Hammacher Schlemmer]], a chain of stores that sells high-end luxury gifts.
*''[[Wikipedia:Super Scope 6|Super Scope 6]]'' is an [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|SNES]] game.
*Coach Z asking for the "Port Plus" is a reference to [http://www.pertplus.com/ Pert Plus], a shampoo/conditioner combination which is meant to supplant the need for separate bottles of shampoo and conditioner.
*"Pumpkinshead 2 through 4" refers to the ''[[Wikipedia:Pumpkinhead (film)|Pumpkinhead]]'' series of films.
*[[Wikipedia:Don King|Don King]] is a boxing promoter.
*[[Wikipedia:Ding Dong|King Don]] is the alternate brand name of the snack cake Ding Dongs sold in Canada.
*Homestar's line in The Poopsmith's Easter egg is a play on [[Wikipedia:Emmett Brown|Doc Brown]]'s final line in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]]'': "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads."
*Coach Z's line about a [[Showering|shower]] being the safest place for a pretty young thing is a reference to many horror movies, such as ''[[Wikipedia:Psycho (1960 film)|Psycho]]'', that have young women attacked while taking a shower.
*The music throughout the toon and especially at the end is based on [[Wikipedia:Killer Instinct|Killer Instinct]], an early 1990s arcade game that was eventually remade for the [[Nintendo|Super NES]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:ween07.html|Watch "Jibblies 2"]]
*[[HR:ween07.swf|View the Flash file for "Jibblies 2"]]
*[[forum:12732|Forum thread re: "Jibblies 2"]]

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narrator

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:27:24 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{sbenav|144}}
[[Image:Sbemail144.PNG|thumb|"They were a couple in love..."]]

Strong Bad dramatically narrates other people's lives.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Badman}} (Easter egg), [[Strong Badman Characters#Grossman|Grossman]] (Easter egg) {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Nebulon}} (Easter egg), [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Alien Cow Marzipan|Marzipan Alien Cow]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Field]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Strong Mad's Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]], [[The Moon]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 6, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:01

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I met this email on a north-bound train. We had some dinner, then we danced in the rain. ''{Presses enter.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: narration</div>
Have you ever been the narrator for a movie? 
 
Grant Gossman from Minnesota. 
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Minnesota" slightly slower than the rest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' No Grossman, I have not. But you know what's way better than narrating movies? Narrating peoples' pathetic everyday lives like they're movie trailers. Ready? Let's try it!

''{Cut to Strong Sad's room. Strong Sad is sitting at his table eating a small pie. Strong Bad leans in through the doorway.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dramatically}'' Meet Strong Sad.

'''STRONG SAD:''' What? Who are you talking to?

'''STRONG BAD:''' All he ever wanted was to eat his grody ethnic food in peace.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey man, this is a Rogan Josh pot pie!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Until one day, fate threw him a curveball.

''{A small blue octopus flies across the screen, hits Strong Sad in the face with a slap and sticks to him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' OW!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lump of Dump Pictures proudly presents:

''{Cut to logo splash. Words appear as Strong Bad says them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "Whined & Dined". In the game of life, may the best man ''{slight pause}'' whine. ''{grumbles}''

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Coach Z is talking to Bubs. Strong Bad quickly peers out around the corner of the stand. All the while, dramatic music with drums is heard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' In a post-apocalyptic world where ''{cut to a closeup of Strong Bad}'' weird old men survive on boring conversations...

''{Cut to wide shot outside the stand.}''

'''BUBS:''' I suppose we could talk about my napkin friend for another couple hours. ''{holds up a napkin}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...a line will be drawn.

''{Cut to the inside of the stand.}''

'''COACH Z:''' YOUR napkin?! Well, it's got my snot balls on it!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' A hero will rise.

''{Cut back to outside the stand.}''

'''BUBS:''' Man, you don't even have a nose!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And an empire will fall.

''{Cut back to outside the stand. Bubs slams the metal gate to his concession stand shut, revealing "4actor Z" graffiti}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Factor Z!

''{Cut to Marzipan's House. Marzipan and Homestar are inside; Homestar is wearing an apron and a strange chef's hat. Strong Bad peeks in from the left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They were a couple in love.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, you look like a dork with that on.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Until a dorky chef's hat threatened to tear them apart.

''{Close-up of Homestar's head. Homestar shakes his head, making the hat's 'googly eyes' jiggle.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, yeah? Well maybe you look like some type of enormous... alien... cow!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{sharp offended gasp}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as music begins to play}'' This summer,—

''{Cut to the field, where Homsar is levitating on his stomach while his hat rises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —this holiday season,—

''{Cut to the side of The King of Town's castle. The Poopsmith is shoveling whatsit in the background. Slow zoom in on him}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —this Arbor Day, some smelly French studio invites YOU ''{points at camera}'' to sit through a four hour film with no dialogue and no plot. "Whatsit ''{slight pause}'' All About"

''{Title appears on the screen with the subtitle "Whatzeet All Aboot?" Cut to Strong Mad's room. Strong Mad and The Cheat are playing Battleship. Piano music begins as Strong Bad appears in the center}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Two unlikely partners...

'''STRONG MAD:''' I ATE MY BATTLESHIP!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...one brain between them.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{shrugs and sighs}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' From the creators of "I'm Surprised Strong Mad Hasn't Eaten The Cheat by Now"

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{upset}'' Awww!

'''STRONG BAD:''' get ready to—

''{The words fly on screen as he says them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —LUG... IT... AROUND.

''{Title appears at top of screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "Lugnut ''{gestures toward Strong Mad, who grins}'' & Squeak" ''{pats The Cheat on the head}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes a The Cheat noise}''

''{Cut to bathroom. We are just behind Strong Sad as he brushes his teeth. We can see his reflection in the mirror. Strong Bad pops up just over his shoulder.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' For hundreds of years it has ''{flickers lights on and off}'' haunted mankind.

''{Cut to The Basement. Strong Sad is watching TV. Strong Bad is standing off to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' From the master of teenagers-on-a-camping-trip-esque horror. ''{flickers lights again and leaves them off}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Are you gonna throw a dead goose at me or something?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Comes the remake no one has been waiting for: ''{another title splash}'' "Things That Go Dump in The Night".

''{Cut to the laundry room. Strong Sad opens the dryer. Cut to a view of Strong Sad from inside it. A dead Canada goose flies out and Strong Sad screams as it knocks him over. The screen immediately goes black except for the words "Your goose is cooked."}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' The critics agree! "A triumph!" "A cinematic breakfast snack of some kind!" "It ''{very slight pause}'' sure was a movie!" ''{quickly}'' Now playing in select cities. ''{rapidly, in the manner of a disclaimer}'' This Strong Bad Email has been rated P for The Poopsmith and a graphic scene of The Paper.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "Grossman" after Strong Bad types it to see a Strong Badman comic book cover illustrating him.
*Click on "critics" at the end of the email to see a scene with Strong Bad and Strong Sad.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{still with the blue octopus on his face}'' Look, all I'm saying is it felt more like a change-up than a curveball.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you, the SBEmail police now? This is like three weeks in a row!
*Click on "rated P" at the end to see a [[Powered by The Cheat]] scene featuring Marzipan as an "enormous alien cow" with Nebulon on [[The Moon]].
:'''MARZIPAN ALIEN:''' ''{in a Powered by the Cheat-style voice}'' You know, Nebulon, I've always admired your styles.
:''{Nebulon makes a sad face and slides away.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Rogan Josh|Rogan Josh]] is a tomato/red pepper based lamb curry dish, created in Northern India. It is normally served over rice, not in a pot pie.
*The "change-up" and "curveball" Strong Sad mentions in the Easter egg are both [[Wikipedia:Pitch (baseball)|pitches]] in baseball. There is a [[Wikipedia:Double-entendre|double entendre]], however. While he was probably speaking literally of the octopus being thrown at him, both phrases can also be used of unexpected twists of fate, as in Strong Bad's narration.
* The title "Things That Go [[Dump]] in the Night" is a reference to the better known phrase "Things that go '''Bump''' in the Night".

===Trivia===
*The Strong Badman Easter egg was not in the email at first, but was added later on in the day.
*This email contains an instance of [[Strong Bad Smiling]].

===Remarks===
* Strong Bad emphasizes the word "gross" when he says the name "Gossman" as "Grossman". A "gross" is a term for 144 of anything, and this is the 144th email.
* Strong Bad refers to Bubs and Coach Z as "old men" in this toon. Their ages relative to the other characters are rarely mentioned, although Coach Z called himself an "old man" in [[caffeine]].
** Interestingly, although Strong Bad refers to Bubs as an old man in this e-mail and in [[isp]], he also called him "kid" in [[cheatday]].
**When Bubs is [[the Thnikkaman]], he refers to everyone except [[Coach Z]] as "kid."
* When Strong Bad is narrating for "THiNGS THAT GO DUMP iN THE NiGHT", he flips the lights on and off in the basement, making us think that there is a light switch just "behind the black" on the left. However, in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], no light switch was seen.
*Strong Bad separating Minnesota from the rest of the email in the way he did, is probably a reference to how Minnesotans pronounce the long O sound.

===Goofs===
*During the ''Lugnut and Squeak'' scene, the Battleship images on the playing boards are slightly disproportionate when the camera zooms in on Strong Bad.
*When The Poopsmith is shoveling his pile of [[whatsit]], the whatsit on his shovel disappears before dropping to the ground.

===Glitches===
*When Marzipan's angry expression is used, blinking causes her outline to be intruded.

===Inside References===
*Strong Mad's role as Lugnut is likely a reference to his [[Yearbook Character Page#Strong Mad|Yearbook Character Page]], which described him as a "big lug."
*Strong Bad's line about boring conversations between Bubs and Coach Z is another Yearbook Character Page reference, while their argument over who owns the napkin is a reference to the Easter egg rap from [[cheatday]], specifically Bubs's line (to Coach Z) "But don't you steal my napkins."
*When Strong Bad says "three weeks in a row", he is referring to the previous 2 emails: [[technology]], in which Strong Sad corrected Strong Bad for calling a floppy disk a "hard disk", and [[secret identity]], when [[Hyperactive Strong Sad]] corrected Homestar's mispronunciation of "pseudonym". All three of these corrections occurred during [[Easter egg|Easter eggs]].
*Even though Marzipan Alien Cow says she likes his style (unlike Strong Bad and [[1-Up]]), Nebulon mopes away just as he did in [[New Boots]].
**Matt Chapman remarked in the [[Inkhole Interview]] and [[New Boots#Commentary Transcript|New Boots DVD Commentary]] that this move is his favorite part of any toon.
*The movie title "THiNGS THAT GO DUMP iN THE NiGHT" is another appearance of [[Lowercase i's|lowercase ''i'''s]].
*There is another reference to [[pie]].
*Homestar's dorky chef's hat is another instance of a [[googly-eyed object]].
* "4actor Z" is another example of [[Internet Slang|Leetspeak]].

===Real-World References===
* The game Strong Mad and The Cheat are playing is [[Wikipedia:Battleship (game)|Battleship]]. Strong Mad's line "I ate my battleship!" is a take off from the old Battleship commercials, where one player would cry at the end "You sank my battleship!"
** The "battleship" icon depicted on the game is a silhouette of the Civil War-era Confederate [[Wikipedia:Ironclad warship|ironclad]] ''[[Wikipedia:CSS Virginia|CSS Virginia]]''.
* "Teenagers on a camping trip" likely refers to horror movies such as [[Wikipedia:Friday the 13th (film series)|Friday the 13th]] and its sequels, which primarily featured such characters.


==See Also==
*[[Films from narrator]]

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
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==External Links==
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geddup noise

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:26:39 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{sbenav|136}}

[[Image:sbemail136.PNG|thumb|"Geddup, geddup, geddup!"]]

{{aboutemail}} {{forpseudocharacter|The Geddup Noise}}

We learn of the latest sensation that's sweeping the nation: [[The Geddup Noise]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Gavin}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}/[[The Teach]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Show]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}, [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, September 26, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:38

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

'''DVD:''' [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five]]

==Transcript==
''{Cut to the Lappy. Gavin is crawling on the screen. The lights are out. Strong Bad is not present. The lights suddenly turn on and Gavin crawls away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Walks in}'' A little bit of email. Some you-and-me-mail. ''{begins reading}''
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: question</div>
What ever happened to the get up noise? I think it 
was cool. 
Sincerely yours marc baroni AZ</blockquote>

''{Reads "marc baroni AZ" as "macaroni from A to Z"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! Alphabet macaroni! ''{typing}'' The get up noise? Oh wait, you mean the Geddup Noise. This guy!

''{Strong Bad gets up and sits down three times, making the noise each time}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Ahhh, what fun! But that's not even the real Geddup Noise. That's just his cousin, Chairscoot. ''{clears screen}'' No, the real Geddup noise split quite some time ago. Somewheres right around email 84, Ol' Geddy got all big overseas. And then the phone calls started coming in.

''{Cut to a close-up shot of Strong Bad. He is holding a phone.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{into phone}'' Hello? What? Yes, no, yes.

''{Zoom out to show that he's in his computer room. The text from email 84 ([[kids' book]]) is displayed on the screen of the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's for you. ''{tosses phone at stool}''

''{The Geddup Noise is heard. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And before I know it, every-freakin-body's talkin' about the Geddup Noise. ''{The Geddup Noise is heard over the last two words.}''

''{Cut to Coach Z and Bubs at the concession stand, which is now labeled "BUBSO'S CONCESSION STAND"}''

'''COACH Z:''' Okay, now I got one Bubs-O. Who am I supposed to be? Aaaaooooroomah! Eeeeeeoooowree!

''{Bubs cringes as Coach Z makes these off-key sounds}''

'''BUBS:''' Is that supposed to be the Geddup Noise?

'''COACH Z:''' Hang on! Hang on! Let me switch my pitch up! Waaay-o! Waaaay-o!!

'''BUBS:''' ''{annoyed}'' Way-o, way-o? I'll be in the basement.

''{The concession stand turns dark with only a yellow light shining from the top. Bubs slowly sinks into the basement.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Way-o! Waaaay-o!

''{Cut to the booOOM box, which holds a cassette tape labeled "Normal Bias"}''

'''BOOOOM BOX (STRONG BAD'S MORNING TALK SHOW RADIO HOST VOICE):''' Hang on to your panties, people! ''{fart noise}'' Uh-oh, what's up? 'Cause we got the Geddup Noise ''{doing sound}'' all up in this piece! ''{Geddup Noise, followed by laughter}'' Oh, we got a live one! ''{old-timey automobile horn sounds}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad listening to the radio. He is wearing a black T-shirt that reads "This Is Not A The Geddup Noise T-Shirt".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, man. The Geddup Noise used to be cool.

''{Cut to the set of The Show with Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And as always, at center square, the get-up noise. ''{Pan to a wider shot. Nobody is seen standing next to him.}'' What do you say, Geddy? ''{The Geddup Noise is heard, followed by applause.}'' Now that is just special. But I'm afraid the correct answer was "way-o, way-o".''{"WAY-O, WAY-O" appears on screen as Homestar says it. The "wrong answer" music plays.}'' But you will receive some fine parting gifts.

''{Cut to a copy of The Show's Stupid Home Edition}''

<pre>FEW PRIZES!
THE SHOW! STUPID HOME EDITION
- choose to recite a list!
- ask questions, demand answers
- mostly play by oneself
boardelectrix
</pre>

'''ANNOUNCER:''' That's right, Kevin. The Geddup Noise will receive a year's supply of our home game!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Even The Cheat was able to snag a piece of the Geddup Pie with his indie-tronic remix.

''{CD of "DJ Teh Cheat - The Geddup Noise" appears; scene switches to Club Technochocolate, where The Cheat is spinning his own record. Bubs and Pom Pom put their weight on it. The song includes the Geddup Noise played over and over.}''

'''SINGER:''' 
The Geddup Noooooise. 
The Geddup Noooise. (Geddup Geddup Geddup!) 
The Geddup Noooooise. (Geddup Geddup Geddup!) 
The Geddup Noooise.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And before long, a bunch of cheap knock-offs started popping up.

''{Cut to the King of Town, seated in a wooden chair at a table in his castle}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Hello, America! It's the Standing Up Noise! ''{The "Standing Up Noise" logo appears, and the King of Town stands up; the chair makes a deep imitation Geddup Noise.}'' Boooo-ooo! ''{The King looks over to his right.}''

''{Cut to the Brothers Strongs' basement. Strong Bad is seated in a yellow chair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to screen, smiling}'' And now, everybody's favorite style, the Git Outcha Seat Sound! ''{The [[Homsar]] walking sound accompanies the "Git Outcha Seat" logo. Strong Bad gets up from a yellow seat and makes a low-pitched imitation Geddup Noise.}'' Isn't that right, the Teach?

''{Strong Mad's left hand appears from behind the sofa. He has a blue sock on his hand with The Cheat-like features drawn on it.}''

'''THE TEACH (STRONG MAD):''' BLUE SOCK! BLUE SOCK!

''{Return to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, sounding embarrassed}'' Heh heh. That was just not, nu-, anything. So after that, Geddy bought a house in the Coches and now he just snowboards all day. He still pops up here and there in the odd, or sometimes ''very'' odd celebrity endorsement.

''{Cut to a shot of [[Hamburger Shampoo]]. The Geddup Noise plays in the background.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Geddup Noise Approved!
<pre>
"Like a backyard BBQ...on your hair!"
hamburger
SHAMPOO
</pre>
''{Cut to Strong Sad watching the Hamburger Shampoo commercial. He is wearing a white T-shirt that reads "Corporate The Geddup Noise Still Sucks".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Frickin' sell-out.

''{Cut back to the Lappy again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So I suppose that more than adequately answers your question, Shoshoni Macaroni.

''{Pan out to a medium shot. Homestar is kneeling to Strong Bad's right, holding a notepad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{to stool}'' Excuse me sir, could I trouble you for an autograph?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar, you know that's not even the original Geddup Noise. It's his cousin...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I know, Chairscoot. He's my generation's Geddup Noise! Uh, could you make it out to ''Lou Dobbs''?

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's it, I'm outta here. ''{Walks offscreen to stage right, making the Chairscoot Noise}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah! There it is! It's positively dreamy! ''{little hearts float up out of Homestar's head and pop like bubbles}'' Ohhhh! ''{Homestar faints. He knocks the stool which makes the chairscoot noise one more time.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click "Coches" when Strong Bad is talking about the celebrity endorsements before the cutaway to Strong Sad to see a [[postcard]].
:''{The postcard's background is a snowy mountain range with the text ''Coches Mountains'' in the top left corner. [[Monkey D]] is up front wearing a winter hat, oven mitt and an ''I ♥ The Teach'' shirt. Along the bottom is the text ''Monkey D awaits you''.}''
*Click on the stool to see additional footage of The Cheat's ambient mix in Club Technochocolate.
:''{Cut back to The Cheat, Pom Pom and Bubs dancing at Club Technochocolate. Coach Z enters and dances across the room. Then Strong Mad's sock puppet appears up front for a bit and lipsyncs the words "geddup geddup geddup", then disappears and reappears to the left where it lipsyncs again, and then goes back up front, where it lipsyncs one more time and then "dances" to the music. Then it fades to black and the Geddup Noise is heard.}''
*Click on the notepad and it'll bring up autograph #1:
<pre>My Pal
Lou Dobbs,
Stay real!
Chairscoot
</pre>

Click on it again and it'll bring up autograph #2:
<pre>Lou Dobbs,
you been
working out?
- Brent Musburger
</pre>

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The lights are off and Gavin is shown on the Lappy because [[Acknowledged Update Delays|it had been 7 weeks]] since the [[lady...ing|previous Strong Bad Email]].
**There was a similar occurrence of this in the email [[army]].
*The label of the cassette in the [[booOOMbox]], "Normal Bias", indicates the [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|bias]] setting to be used when recording on it.
*"''The Show''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Stupid Home Edition" is a parody of popular game shows that give away home versions of their games as consolation prizes.

=== Trivia ===
*The labels on the disks in the floppy disk container read "[[Floppy Disk Container#low G man|low G man]]" and "[[Floppy Disk Container#axe of rage|axe of rage]]".
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad Smiling]].

===Remarks===
* Clicking on Gavin at the beginning of the email still makes the [[Lappy 486]] respond with the ripple effect, as if you were clicking directly on the screen.
*Strong Bad says the "get up noise" is correctly the "geddup noise", even though at the end of [[the bet]] he himself calls it the "get up noise".
* Marc's question is odd because the Geddup Noise appeared in three of the five previous emails ([[boring (really)]], [[record book]], and [[lady...ing]]).
*A get up noise like that is not even possible on carpet. Strong Bad's stool makes a noise as if it were scraping against tile or hardwood floor.
**[[The Brothers Chaps]] have mentioned this in [[army#Commentary Transcript|the DVD commentary for "army"]].
**The noise seems to exist as an entity unto itself. It sounds without the stool even moving when Strong Bad throws over the phone, not to mention its sounding in the studio of [[The Show]].
*Strong Bad would have to have looked up the email at which the Geddup noise got his phone call, because he lost count of emails at [[website|#51]] until he was notified in [[flashback]].
**Strong Bad may have been aware of the number during the beginning of [[caffeine]] when his email song was "and now, coming in at numbah 91, it's email!"
*The Cheat's DJ rig doesn't appear to have a mixer, only turntables and amps.
**Although, there may be a mixer, or other equipment obscured by the table, because the turntable on the far right has audio cables that don't lead to any of the visible equipment.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad is repeatedly getting up and sitting back down again, the laces on the back of his head should be visible while he is getting up.
*When Strong Bad is doing the Git Outcha Seat Sound, the yellow seat has only three legs.
*At the end, the words 'Lappy 486' are further to the left than usual.
*When Strong Bad takes the phone call, the [[Disconnected Telephone]] has no cord. When he passes it over to The Geddup Noise, however, a cord appears.
*When Coach Z is talking to Bubs, Bubs's arms do not have shining lines on them, however, they appear on the rest of his body.

===Inside References===
*[[Radio Stations and Shows#The AM Morning "CRUDE" Crew|The AM Morning "CRUDE" Crew]] was first heard in [[radio]].
*Strong Bad uses a [[disconnected telephone]].
*[[Boardelectrix]] also made Jurvy-Skat in [[Family Resemblence]].
*The "The Show" board game has a [[Blender]] on it.
*Coach Z's dance in the Easter egg is the "I'm Just Me" dance from [[record book]].
*The synthesizer used for The Cheat's song in this email sounds the same as the one used for the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] soundtrack.
*The hearts popping up around Homestar's head also happened when he "fell for Strong Bad" in [[do over]].
*The dance Bubs does during the scene with The Cheat is a nod to the original [[Dancin' Bubs]] game, in which the same dance can be replicated.
*The King of Town [[The King of Town Booing|boos]] himself.

===Real-World References===
*Strong Sad's "This Is Not A The Geddup Noise T-Shirt" refers to [[Wikipedia:Fugazi (band)|Fugazi]]'s "This Is Not A Fugazi T-Shirt" T-shirts.
*Strong Sad's "Corporate The Geddup Noise Still Sucks" shirt is akin to the shirt worn by the late [[Wikipedia:Nirvana (band)|Nirvana]] lead singer [[Wikipedia:Kurt Cobain|Kurt Cobain]] on the cover of [[Wikipedia:Rolling Stone|Rolling Stone]], which read "Corporate Magazines Still Suck", which was also referenced in [[Homestarloween Party]] in which Homestar (dressed up as Kurt Cobain) wore a shirt with the SST Records' slogan "Corporate Rock Still Sucks", which itself is a parody of the motto, "Corporate Rock Sucks".
*[[Wikipedia:Lou Dobbs|Lou Dobbs]] is the anchor and managing editor of CNN's [http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/ Lou Dobbs Tonight].
*[[Wikipedia:Brent Musburger|Brent Musburger]] is a sports announcer for ABC.
*Homestar referring to the center square is a reference to the game show [[Wikipedia:Hollywood Squares|Hollywood Squares]], where famous comics would often sit in the "center square" for long periods at a time.
*"[[Wikipedia:Indietronic|Indietronic]]" is a musical genre that merges the methods of [[Wikipedia:Electronica|electronica]] with the broader context of [[Wikipedia:Indie (music)|indie music]].
*"The Coches" may be a reference to Las Coches Mountain, located in the [[Wikipedia: Sierra Madre Mountains (California)| Sierra Madre Mountains]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Cheat's Indie-tronic remix would later be heard on Pom Pom's cell phone in [[technology]].
*The [[Coches Mountains]] are once again mentioned in [[looking old]].
*Coach Z was refered to as Sound Effects Man in [[Happy Hallow-day]]

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
{{sectionstub}}

== External Links ==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

New Boots

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:22:43 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{watchtoon|newboots}}
[[Image:newboots02.png|thumb|right|220px|"Whoa, The Cheat! I can't believe what cool boots you have on!"]]

'''Powered by The Cheat'''

The Cheat gets some "New Boots". With a Coach Z video, "Hip Hop Dance"!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Nebulon}}, [[Striped Green Rabbit]]

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The Cheat's Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' Wednesday, April 7, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:46

'''Page Title:''' Powered by The Cheat!!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Transcript ==
''{This cartoon was created by The Cheat. Strong Bad is singing to himself, while dribbling a basketball with one hand and spinning a second basketball on his other hand. He is wearing purple boxing gloves and his head appears to be rendered in clay. His pants are hiked up on one side so that his underwear shows on the other side. The Cheat enters wearing cowboy boots.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, The Cheat! I can't believe what cool boots you have on, where did you get them?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{responds}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I see; a cute girl and an astronaut gave them to you.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{imperative The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, I'll go get you a patty melt.

''{He exits with his different body parts overcrossing. The basketball he was spinning remains in midair. A giant fist, maybe Strong Mad's, sends Homestar, who is missing a shoe, tumbling onscreen. The basketball Strong Bad had left behind finally falls to the ground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Dang The Cheat, I like your boots!

''{Homestar's cell phone rings in his shirt. He answers it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on the cell}'' Thanks for calling me. The Cheat is wearing cool boots. Can I have my shoe back?

''{His missing shoe comes flying in and hits him in the face.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''' ''{on the cell}:'' Thanks one million, talk to you later.

''{Strong Bad walks in, carrying a picnic basket, as Homestar puts the cell away. Strong Bad's arm briefly detaches from his body, then reattaches itself.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat I made your favorite, a picnic plate with wine and a baguette. ''{smiles and a "ding" sound is heard}'' Can I get you something else?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll have some, soup.

''{Strong Bad's leg extends, snakes over The Cheat, and finally trips Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, get that man ''some'' soup.

''{The Cheat makes a noise and pours soup on Homestar's eyes.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK! Hot soup is on my eye.

''{The Cheat jumps on Homestar's head and starts doing a dance. A hip-hop-style loop of vocal samples starts up out of nowhere.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh no! Now you're doing a hip-hop dance on my head!

'''COACH Z:''' ''{entering}'' Hey that's a good dance! ''{leaves}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' High five, The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{a short exclamation.}''

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat extend their hands into space, where they [[high five]]. The words, 'A very high-five' appear for a moment then disappear. An alien named Nebulon floats on screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Talking through his hand}'' Get out of here, Nebulon! No one likes ''your'' style.

''{Nebulon frowns, and sulkily floats off screen. The "[[Sound Effects|Strong Mad in space]]" sound signifies his departure.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Talking through his hand}'' The Cheat, do you like Nebulon's style?

''{We see Strong Bad and The Cheat watching the scene in The Cheat's Computer Room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Purple boxing gloves?! Did you do any fact-checking before you turned this in? What if I did that to you? Oh yeah, The Cheat, he's a...stripèd, green rabbit! With two butts!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{responds angrily}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But you made my underwears showing! Everybody knows I don't wear underwears!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm...all right... You get an...iron cup. Full of Brunswick Stew. ''{places cup of stew on table}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{responds excitedly and pulls the cup over to his side of the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But lemme tell ya's. With a little extra effort, it would have been a trophy full of ''Steak-umms.''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''(sad The Cheat noise (in an "Awww" pattern)}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Guy drops a couple of JPEGs in his cartoon and thinks he's like, the guy who draws The Lockhorns or something. Now that guy knows funny!

''{Fade to black, cut to Coach Z's Hip Hop Dance music video.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ladies all the time be asking me, 
"Coach Z, how come you don't dance no more?" 
And I say, Ladies, ladies! 

Just give me a chance to do a hip-hop... dance 
Give me a chance to do a dance! (Oh yeah!) 
Give me a chance to do a hip-hop dance 
Give me a chance to do a dance! (Cool time!)

The Roger Rabbit, the Cabbage Patch, the Locomotive, 
"Coach Z, how come you don't dance no more?"

Just give me a chance to do a hip-hop... dance 
Give me a chance to do a dance! 
Give me a chance to do a hip-hop dance 
C'mon... 
(Give me a chance to do a dance!) 
Gimme a chance! 

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Lockhorn Comic.PNG|thumb|"yer a bum!"]]
*Click on The Cheat's computer screen when Strong Bad says "Oh yeah, The Cheat; he's a... striped green rabbit with two butts" and you will see a The Cheat rendering of such a rabbit.
*Click on The Cheat's computer screen when Strong Bad mentions "the guy who draws The Lockhorns" to see The Cheat drawn in the style of the comic strip ''[[Wikipedia:The Lockhorns|The Lockhorns]]''.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:patty melt|patty melt]] is a sandwich consisting of a hamburger patty, swiss cheese and sautéed onion between two slices of rye bread. The sandwich is grilled so that the cheese melts thoroughly and the outside becomes toasted to a crunchy golden brown.
*[[Wikipedia:Brunswick stew|Brunswick Stew]] is a genuine stew containing various beans, corn, and other vegetables, and one or more types of meat. Most recipes claiming authenticity call for squirrel or rabbit meat, but most contain only chicken, pork, and beef. For more information, you can visit [http://tourbrunswick.org/brunswick_stew.htm this site].

===Trivia===
*When this toon premiered, it was entitled, "Powered by the Cheat". When the "Powered by the Cheat" option was added to the [[Toons]] menu, it was renamed, "New Boots".
*Strong Bad's head in this cartoon is a picture of a Strong Bad miniature figurine's head.
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad smiling]].

===Remarks===
*The sky background reverses when The Cheat first walks in.
*When The Cheat starts dancing on Homestar's face, his sprite flips horizontally, causing the dollar signs on his boots to appear backwards.
*We actually have seen evidence of Strong Bad wearing [[underwear]] before, in the Strong Bad Email [[stand-up]]. We see further evidence in [[senior prom]], [[Main Page 24]] and [[nightlife]].
*In The Cheat's animation, Homestar Runner's tongue is visible when he talks, while in normal animations this does not happen; there is in fact no indication that Homestar even has a tongue (though his tongue can later be seen in [[hygiene]]).
*The animation also seems to show that Homestar does have shoes, and even wears socks under them. However, The Cheat's cartoons are often not true to reality (or at least to the "reality" of Free Country USA).
*When Strong Bad knocks Homestar over, The Cheat animates this by flipping Homestar horizontally before rotating him. Due to this, it appears that his sock-covered foot switches legs.
*The Wanted sign where Coach Z is dancing appears to be on a wallpaper with flowers.
*[[Nebulon]]'s graffiti tag, NEB-1, appears briefly in the background.
*Coach Z is shown doing breakdancing moves in the video, including airchairs and windmills.
*Coach Z has his hat colors reversed during the whole video.
*In "step 3" of Coach Z's dance, his arms bend backwards.
*After The Cheat tells where he got the boots, for a brief moment Strong Bad has his natural rectangular mouth and a round mouth overlapping it when he says the "Oh" in "Oh, I see."
* Homestar's shoe would not cover all his sock, therefore he should have a sock sticking up on his shoe covered foot.

===Inside References===
*The part about pouring hot soup in Homestar's eyes is a reference to [[different town]] where Strong Bad initially thinks that's what the author of that email was asking him to do.
*The sound that plays when [[Nebulon]] leaves is the same as when Strong Mad is in space in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]].
*The "Unda-wears showing" line is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]].
*The picnic plate with wine and a baguette is an instance of [[alcohol]].
*The loading screen is similar to that of [[Tandy 400]]-era [[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]].
*Coach Z reverts to his old-school ''pink'' The Cheat style during his lines "Cool time!" and "The Locomotive!"
*During Coach Z's video, there is a small 3-D clip similar to the Easter egg in [[stunt double]].
*The album title [[All up ons|The Z Is All Up Ins]] is a reference to Strong Bad's comment in [[suntan]] about the ladies being "all up ons."
*The rhythm for Coach Z's Hip Hop Dance was used earlier in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] as the door-knocking rhythm when Bubs arrives at the door.

===Real-World References===
*The Cheat's boots are possibly a reference to the [[Wikipedia:David Bowie|David Bowie]] song "The Man Who Sold The World". On the inside liner cover of the similarly titled [[Wikipedia:The Man Who Sold the World|record album]], there is a picture of a cowboy holding a shotgun, with a pair of boots with dollar signs emblazoned on the sides of them that look almost exactly like the boots The Cheat is wearing in the toon.
*"[http://www.steakumm.com/ Steak-umms]" are a brand of frozen strips of cooked beef that can be heated in a pan and put on sandwiches. They are frequently used in the creation of [[Wikipedia:Philly cheese steak|Philly cheese steaks]].
*It is interesting to note that there is no single "guy" who draws ''[http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/lockhorn/about.htm The Lockhorns]''. The one-panel strip was created in 1968 by Bill Hoest, who wrote it for twenty years, collaborating with his spouse, Bunny Hoest. When he died in 1988 Bunny kept the comic strip active. Currently the comic strip is still done by Bunny with the help of her capable assistant, John Reiner, the son of famous comedian Carl Reiner.
*The small, pixelated Coach Z appears to be an edited ''[[Wikipedia:Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]]'' sprite.
*The Roger Rabbit, the Cabbage Patch, and the Locomotive are all real [http://www.inthe80s.com/80sdance.shtml dances].

===Fast Forward===
*The phrase "Get out of here, Nebulon! No one likes your style!" is also used in the game [[Stinkoman 20X6]] when beating the end boss of Level 5. It is also referred to by Marzipan Alien in a [[narrator]] Easter egg, although she admits she's always admired his styles.
*"[[-èd|Stripèd]]" would later be used in [[highschool]] and [[alternate universe]].
*The name of the album "The Z is All Up Ins" appears in the secret music video for [[These peoples try to fade me]] on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' Get in here, Ryan, why don't you say hello to the guys here?

'''RYAN:''' Hi, guys! I'm here.

'''MATT:''' Look at The Cheat, Mike! The Cheat usually doesn't have feet, yet how is he wearing those buttes?

'''MIKE:''' And not only boots, but expensive boots, probably.

'''RYAN:''' Money.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' The price tag is just, uh, embroidered in the boots themselves.

'''MATT:''' Strong Bad, umm... oh— Strong Bad never really expresses much athletic inclination, but in this email, he's twirling two— he's dribbling and twirling a basketball!

'''MIKE:''' He's ta— he's talented!

'''MATT:''' ''{sotto voce}'' And here he is!

'''MIKE:''' He doesn't smile very much, which he does in this cartoon, too!

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's true. He's got quite a grin.

'''MIKE:''' Ah, "can I get you something else?" We've actually made a song... sampling. ''{as Powered by The Cheat Strong Bad}'' Can I get you something else? Can I get you something else? ''{Matt and/or Ryan starts dropping beats}'' Can I get, can I get, can I get, can I get you something else?

'''MATT:''' Oh, wait— ''{pause}'' That's another good song. The chip-chop dance.

'''MIKE:''' ''{as Coach Z}'' "Hey, that's a good dance!"

'''MATT:''' Hey Mike— so let's talk about how Mike does all the voices, Ryan.

'''MIKE:''' So, whenever we do commentary for Cheat cartoons, I just sit there and do the voices.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Do the voice of Nebulon.

'''MIKE:''' Bloodleeedleoodleedlee!

'''MATT:''' That's probably my favorite moment in any Homestar cartoon ever, is when Nebulon ages a thousand years when he's so sad. ''{pause}'' Ryan, what if he did that to you?

'''RYAN:''' I might be upset.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{pause}'' What do you think of The Cheat's flash styles, Ryan?

'''RYAN:''' I think he's talented...

'''MATT:''' Mm-hmm.

'''RYAN:''' And an artist.

'''MATT:''' A talented artist! What do you think of Brunswick stew, Ry?

'''RYAN:''' In a chalice?

'''MATT:''' Where do they have good Brunswick stew around here?

'''RYAN:''' Savannah, Georgia.

'''MATT:''' Ah.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Sonny's has a pretty good Brunswick stew.

'''MATT:''' Does it?

'''RYAN:''' Riff store has it in a bread bowl.

'''MATT:''' Oh, yeah. A bread bool.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh, yeah! Is that what they call the volcano?

'''RYAN:''' The volcano.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, that is good.

'''RYAN:''' Oh!

'''MATT:''' Who forgot about this?

'''RYAN:''' I did! Look at those ladies! How c— how—

'''MIKE:''' Those ladies are way out of Coach Z's league, I think.

'''RYAN:''' That's the Roger Rabbit, clearly, and that— or is ''that'' the Roger Rabbit? Nah, he was doing— the first was the cabbage patch, sorry.

'''MIKE:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Umm... there you go, see. He lets you know. ''{pause}'' Look at those luscious lips. I like those luscious lips.

'''MIKE:''' Coach Z's got 'em.

'''MATT:''' And there's Neb— Neb 1! My favorite graffiti artist!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' I like the little Megaman Coach Z.

'''MATT:''' That's the second hip-hop video that The Cheat's made for Coach Z!

== See Also ==
*The [[Hip Hop Dance Visuals|visuals]] for the Hip Hop Dance video.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:newboots.html|watch "New Boots"]]
*[[HR:newboots.swf|view the Flash file for "New Boots"]]
*[[Forum:68|forum thread re: "New Boots"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|newboots}}

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

suntan

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:22:33 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{sbenav|77}}
[[Image:sbemail77.png|thumb|Broasted Abs]]

Strong Bad discovers the awesomeness of black marker on stomach, which he markets to become a hundredaire.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, June 16, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:17

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I met her in the summertime. Her name was... ''{high pitch singing}'' e-mail!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
I thought you looked cute as a 
Japanese cartoon with the blue hair 
and everything. ^_~ I was thinking 
you might look even better if you got 
out in the sun and got a nice tan. I've 
heard that a nice tan really 
helps your muscles stand out. 
 
Meg, 
KS</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "HEH-OH HEE! I think that's how you say that..." for the emoticon "^_~". He also reads "KS" as K.S.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's a good point, KS. With the summer months all up on us, I'll probably be going shirtless more often than usual. I know one thing the ladies love more than a regular Strong Bad is a lightly toasted Strong Bad. ''{clears screen}'' And I guess it'll help to accentuate my abdominal muscles and my abs, and my cloits. They're already bulging all over the place as it is, but I guess a little more definition wouldn't kill me.

''{Cut to Strong Bad lying on a towel, sunbathing in The Field. Next to him are buckets labeled "Animal Phat — 'it's lard, yo!'" and "cocoa butter"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, c'mon, sun, show me what you got. Don't pull no punches neither. I want the real radioactive stuff.

''{The King of Town enters, wearing round sunglasses}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sniffs}'' Gooh. ''{sniffs}'' Oh, there it is!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rising from his towel}'' There ''what'' is?

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh, nothing. Hi, Strong Bad. How are you this day?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I was certainly better before you showed up. I'm still doing pretty good.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sneakily stealing the cocoa butter while Strong Bad isn't looking}'' Oh, good. That's all I wanted to know. I guess I'll be moving on to different smell—place. ''{shoots off to the left taking the cocoa butter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the—? Hey! He took my cocoa butter!

''{The King of Town peeks back in and grabs the Animal Phat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Aw!

''{The words "6–8 hours later..." in the Compy email loading style appear on screen. Cut to Strong Bad sunbathing again. His chest is now extremely pink. Marzipan enters with a large, green oriental-style paper umbrella, and she is smiling}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, how long have you been laying here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I dunno, six, maybe eight hours.

'''MARZIPAN:''' You know, you're supposed to flip over every 15 minutes or so...

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Who wants a tan on their back? There's no abs to accentuate. Not like up here. ''{stands, admiring his non-existent abs}'' Ooh, check it out, Ab City, USA. ''{Shaking hips. We can see that Strong Bad's back is lily-white.}'' Do-doot do.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, I don't see a single ab.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you talking about, it's like a cold one brewery over here, there's so many six-packs. ''{produces a sharpie marker}'' Check it out, ''{draws abs onto his chest}'' one, two, threefourfivesix. ''{grins at Marzipan}'' Oops, forgot the hatching. ''{adds shading}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Aren't you supposed to have pecs?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Don't need 'em! That's why they call me Double A: ''All Abs!''

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's weird.

''{Marzipan leaves}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, I bet I could make some serious dough off this idea. I could be like, a thousandaire, or at least a hundredaire.

''{Cut to fake ad, with Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000 zooming in slowly}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Introducing the all new Strong Bad Ab-Abber 2000! Get results like the professionals in ''{words appear on screen}'' Minutes! Nay! Seconds! Just listen to this guy over here!

''{cut to Strong Sad holding the Ab-Abber 2000}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{sounding like he is reading off of a tele-prompter}'' Since using Strong Bad's Ab-Abber Two Thousand ''{pronounces "thousand" as "Thous And"}'', the ladies have been all up ons. ''{talking to Strong Bad off camera}'' All up ons? I don't know what that means!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off camera}'' Well, Strong Sad, it means they really like you.

'''STRONG SAD:''' But they don't! Especially now with all this Sharpie on my stomach.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just read the lines, man. ''{Strong Bad's hand appears on camera holding a plush lobster}'' Do you want to see Gooblies again or not?

'''STRONG SAD:''' You leave Gooby out of this!

''{Cut to a close-up of the Ab-Abber 2000 box with words "Act Now!" flashing at the top of the screen}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Act now and receive the Cloitsterizer ''{words appear at bottom of screen, as well as a cheese wedge with a string tacked to it}'' Abs-solutely free! ''{words disappear}'' Max out your ''{"Cloits and Dloits!!?!" flashes in center screen}'' Cloits and Dloits with the ease of a thousandaire. Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. ''{words appear}'' "They'll be all up ons!"

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Testimonial.PNG|thumb|right|"I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"]]
*Click on the little G tag (right side, up near Strong Bad's hand) on Strong Sad's lobster [[Gooblies]] to see a Homsar celebrity testimonial.

:''{Homsar is shown finishing drawing a calculator displaying the word "SALAd" on his shirt. The words "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" are superimposed on the lower center of the screen.}''
:'''HOMSAR:''' AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!!!

*Click on the marker at the end of the email to see the instructions for Strong Bad's [[Ab-Abber 2000|Ab-Abber]].
<blockquote>Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000 Instruction Manual
Use fine tip black 
marker(not included) 
to define the desired 
abdominal muscles 
(abs). Repeat as 
often as necessary.
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Actual 
drawing</blockquote>

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The use of "^_~" to represent a wink is an example of an [[Wikipedia:Emoticon|emoticon]]. An emoticon, also called a smiley, is a sequence of printable characters such as :) or :-) that is intended to represent a facial expression and convey an emotion. Emoticons that can be understood without turning one's head to the side are often considered to be of [[Wikipedia:Emoticon#East Asian style|East Asian style]].

===Trivia===
*According to the commentary on the DVD:
**Matt actually once had a stuffed lobster named Gooblies.
**The sunglasses the King of Town wears actually belong to Marzipan. They were based on an old pair Matt had, which he broke while shooting the Fhqwhgads karaoke video for the DVD.
**[[The Cloitsterizer]] was actually an item that Matt and Mike saw a kid dragging in a thrift store.
*Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
*This is the only time the King of Town has moved with any speed.
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad smiling]].

===Remarks===
*The first bucket says "Animal Phat." Phat is a slang word meaning "cool," although it's intended to mean actual fat in this case. This ties in with the second phrase on the bucket: "It's lard, yo!," both a reference to the bucket's contents and the play on words.
*Abdominal muscles, abs, and cloits are essentially the same thing.
*According to the instructions of the Ab-Abber 2000, all you get is the box itself and the instructions, as the marker is not included.
*Strong Bad appears to be sunburned after he lies in the sun for 6-8 hours, but doesn't appear to be feeling any pain.
*Strong Bad draws hatching on his abs on the opposite side of the shading on his body, as though the lighting was coming from two different directions.
*This is another appearance of the letter [[G]].

===Goofs===
*The abs drawn on Strong Sad's stomach have the bizarre side effect of making his belly button completely disappear.
*When Strong Bad draws the abs on, his legs are in front of his body.
*When Strong Bad says "Her name was Email" in the email song, parts of his mask, though they appear cut off, protrude above his head instead of being flat on his face like usual.

===Inside References===
*When showing the commercial of the Ab-Abber 2000, the music that plays is taken from [[action figure]].
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad Smiling]].

===Real-World References===
*The facial hair on the man in the instructions is very similar to the style that was adopted by [[Wikipedia:Frank Zappa|Frank Zappa]].
*The term thousandaire was used in Rocky & Bullwinkle's Fractured Fairy Tales in a parody of Little Red Riding Hood, where one of the wolf's lines is "I'm on my way to being a thousandaire!" Hundredaire, on the other hand, is purely Strong Bad.
*[[Wikipedia:Sharpie (marker)|Sharpies]] are a brand of permanent marker.

===Fast Forward===
*The term [[All up ons]] became a running gag on the site.
*The [[The King of Town's Food#Cocoa Butter|cocoa butter]] reappears in [[the bet]] on The King of Town's food shelf.

== DVD Version ==
*The Homsar celebrity testimonial is automatically enabled, so no selecting is required.
*The DVD version features hidden audio commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MATT:''' Welcome to "suntan."

'''MIKE:''' We're joined here by Marzipan once again.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' What do you think of that song? That's a little more tender side of Strong— Strong Bad, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' He has this— He, he does have a tender side.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' Say something else.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I'm listening right now.

'''MIKE:''' Okay.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I, I liked this e-mail...

'''MIKE:''' I like your, um... Well, we'll talk about it when it comes on.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Okay.

'''MATT:''' I remember we did this, it was kind of— Didn't I just come back from a vacation and actually had a pretty bad, pretty bad sunburn?

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah, so, timely.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's true. You know, and after this e-mail for the next few months, uh, Matt and Mike both kept drawing abs on their bodies and going around shirtless in the studio. ''{Mike laughs}'' It was very distracting for most of us ladies.

'''MIKE:''' I wish I could have that towel.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. I mean, that— that's a towel that, conceptually I swear I've seen before, but now I've searched ''{Mike chuckles}'' far and wide and can't find one with a Bengal tiger on it. Or a Siberian tiger on it?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Those are— those are my sunglasses that the King of Town is wearing.

'''MATT:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Those are pretty sweet.

'''MATT:''' They're modeled after these, uh, glasses I have for sunchaps  ''{unintelligible}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Really?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{short pause}'' That I actually just broke when we were doing the, uh, the half-pipe stuff for the karaoke video for "Everybody to the Limit."

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' They're broken now.

'''MIKE:''' You can watch that. If you watch closely, you can see the glasses fall off.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{gasps watching her character enter frame on the e-mail}'' Oh! That is the, um, the umbrella from Mike's cocktail.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I just grabbed that at the last minute; I thought it really added to the scene.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I really like that.

'''MATT:''' It's clearly— yeah, it's clearly just a cocktail umbrella though, made large. ''{short pause}'' Now here's my favorite song. ''{Strong Bad says, "Do-do do" in the email}'' That's a good song.

'''MIKE:''' "Do-do do"?

'''MATT:''' Look, he's Neapolitan Strong Bad, with no chocolate.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, it was really hot out that day.

'''MATT:''' It looks pretty hot. There's some sweltering orange sky back there.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah, I did that uh...

'''MARZIPAN:''' Fortunately, I never sweat.

'''MIKE:''' ''{amused}'' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, wait, see? Look, Marzipan's eyes '''were''' backwards!

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.

'''MATT:''' I, I apologize, Marzipan, on behalf of my brother Mike.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It made working very difficult that day. ''{Mike chuckles}''

'''MATT:''' I bet. ''{pause}'' Did our friend Tobin coin that phrase? Or does he just use it?

'''MIKE:''' "Hundredaire"?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' I don't know; it's possible.

'''MATT:''' He uses it extensively, which is good.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Who modeled for that, um, box top?

'''MIKE:''' Think it's Strong Bad.

'''MATT:''' Think it's Strong Bad himself.

'''MIKE:''' He's a character from our website. ''{Matt chuckles}''

'''MATT:''' The background is great, Mike; it's very true to the, to the infomercial—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Ron— ''{chuckles}''

'''MATT:''' yeah, Ron, Ron Popeil.

'''MIKE:''' And here's, uh— Matt really had a, uh, stuffed lobster named Gooblies.

'''MATT:''' It's true. I don't know what Gooblies meant.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' There he is.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' The Cloitsterizer is something we actually saw; eh, it's mentioned elsewhere on this DVD, but we saw a kid dragging that around a thrift store one day—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' —a piece of wooden cheese on a string.

===Trivia===
*[[Wikipedia:Ron Popeil|Ron Popeil]] is the founder of [[Wikipedia:Ronco|Ronco]] and is the inventor of the Pocket Fisherman, Mr. Microphone, and more recently the Showtime Rotisserie. Ronco's early television sales techniques are considered the progenitors of today's infomercials.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail77.html|watch "suntan"]]
*[[HR:sbemail77.swf|view the Flash file for "suntan"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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environment

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:20:12 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{sbenav|186}}
[[Image:sbemail186.png|thumb|"Are you guys picketing my computer?"]]
Strong Bad explains how he is helping the environment.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Field]], [[Homestar's House]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Sunday, January 6, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:28

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm chicky-checkin' emails in 2008! Stricky-stricky-Strong Bad fit to regulate! ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: high time</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
We realize that you are a busy fellow, but my friend and 
I cannot help but think that you could be doing more to 
help the environment. This is your planet too, you know. 
Lyd and Jules, 
ID and MO, respectively 
</blockquote>
''{reads ID as "idiot" and MO as "moron"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well...ladies? I do plenty to help the environment. Nobody ever gives me credit for my most significant contribution. ''{clears the screen}'' Every day I wake up and the first thing I do is NOT drop a piano on Marzipan's head. Who knows how many greenhouse gases I've rescued as a result of not mortally wounding ol' Marzipole. And don't forget my New Year's resolution to stop watering her plants with bleach. Now I water them strictly with ''{cut to Marzipan's house and a close up on her flowers}'' recycled cigarette butts.

''{Cigarette butts are dumped on one of the flowers.}''

'''FLOWER:''' ''{coughing}'' Oh, that's good stuff.

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, there ya go possibly ladies. My boat take— 
'''STRONG SAD and MARZIPAN:''' ''{faintly, chanting}'' Scrappy the Lappy! We think it's really crappy! Scrappy the Lappy!

''{cut to The Computer Room's window where the silhouette of two picket signs are seen. Strong Sad and Marzipan continue underneath}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the—?

''{cut to The Field. Strong Sad holds up a sign that says "Scrap the Lappy". Marzipan holds a sign saying "Lappy, Take the Dirt Nappy!". Strong Bad enters from the right.}''

'''STRONG SAD and MARZIPAN:''' We think it's really crappy!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Are you guys picketing my computer?

''{medium shot of Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yes we are! That Lappy is energy sappy!

''{close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{stares flatly}'' That's very clever. How long did it take you to think up—

''{cut back to shot of all three}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{posing proudly}'' Three days.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Just look at your power bill from last month.

'''STRONG SAD:''' The bill itself uses eight trees' worth of paper.

''{pan to the left to reveal a stack of paper marked "BILLS!"}''

''{close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Are you trying to tell me that $70,000 power bills aren't the norm?

''{medium shot of Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, every time you press enter on the Lappy, the rest of us lose power.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' For real?

''{Push wipe back to the Lappy. There is a list labeled "Okay for Mom" on the screen with various euphemisms for buttocks within it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing in the list}'' tuckus ''{presses enter, heard with the loud clack of a circuit breaker blowing}'' hinders ''{presses enter}'' bwathom ''{presses enter}'' boontockle ''{presses enter}''

''{Push wipe to Homestar Runner with an [[Atari 2600]] joystick.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm about to win! ''{room darkens}'' Awww... ''{lights come on}'' I'm about to win! ''{room darkens}'' Awww.... ''{reverse shot of the TV that reads "PLEASE INSERT GAME PAK, KID!"}'' I'm really about to win! ''{room darkens}'' Again with the awww....

''{cut to close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Fine! I'll just start using the Lappy's battery instead.

''{cut back to The Field}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, sorry. ''{medium shot of Strong Sad}'' Every time you use that battery, 45 acres of rain forest are burned to the ground!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! ''{close up of Strong Bad}'' I knew the Lappy was awesome, but I had no idea of her destructive power! ''{cut to shot of all three}'' I gotta get Bubs to help me to overclock it and see if we can't get that up to an even 50 acres.

''{medium shot of Marzipan. Her angry brow goes away}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' You really have to do something, Strong Bad. Even Coach Z does all of his cooking with hydroelectric.

''{cut to a close up of Coach Z's hand in the [[showering|shower]], holding a soggy hot dog.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ah, the world famous Coach Z ''{the Sog Dog logo appears in the upper left corner}'' Sog Dog. ''{words appear on the screen as he says it}'' Mmmmm! Drink in that bun!

''{cut back to The Field, close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait. So, alls I got to do is take something I already do and word it differently so it sounds eco-friendly?

''{cut back to all three}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, that's what we do mostly.

''{medium shot of Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Check out my sustainable MP3 player.

''{medium shot of Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And my organic ''Thelma and Louise'' DVD.

''{close up of Strong Bad, smiling}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, yeah, okay. And say hello to my 65 mile-per-gallon hybrid piano!

''{long shot in silhouette of The Field. A piano is seen dropping and Strong Sad and Marzipan scatter}''

'''STRONG SAD and MARZIPAN:''' Al Gore's beard!

''{zoom back in just before the piano is seen smashed in the field next to Strong Bad. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So there, there, THERE we go, maybe ladies. Strong Bad and the environment are now making out in the parent's basement of a solar-powered house. Take a look at the Lappy's new environmentally compliant sticker compliance sticker! ''{close up of the sticker next to the Lappy 486 logo}'' And it's got a picture of a little leaf on it, so you know it's good for the environment. ''{zoom out to the Lappy; resumes typing}'' So until next week, my boat take—

''{The Cheat noises are heard and the Lappy's screen goes dark. Zoom out to see a panting The Cheat (painted green) in a hamster wheel hooked up the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on green The Cheat! ''{The Cheat resumes running in the wheel}'' That's good, that's good! Only 17 more hours and I can press send.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down reading: 
"Click gently to eco-mail Strong Bad. 
printed on 100% post-consumer brown paper with green ink"}''

''{pause for a little while, as the hamster wheel sound effect fades out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow. That is one whisper quiet hamster wheel.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:IdiotAndMoron.png|thumb|"Idiot and Moron"]]
*When Strong Bad says "Idiot and Moron, respectively," click on "ID and MO" to see an image of the states Idaho and Montana dancing with goofy faces.
**Click on Montana to change it into Missouri and "idiot and moron" into "[[Mike Chapman|Mike]] is a moron!"
*At the end, click on The Cheat to see a button extolling the virtues of GreenCheat.
*At the end, after Strong Bad comments on the hamster wheel, click on the wall outlet.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still typing his "Okay for Mom" list on the Lappy}'' Boat take... ''{hits Enter}''
:''{Cut to behind Homestar, still trying to play his Atari 2600 game. Lights and TV come on.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This is the easiest video game I've ever played. ''{the room darkens}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Game Pak is the official name for the cartridges used on [[Nintendo]]'s early video game consoles, but it uses a joystick, resembling the ones included with the [[Atari 2600]].
*"100% post-consumer" is used to indicate the amount and source of recycled material. In this case, all of the paper material comes from sources other than leftovers from manufacturing and is considered environmentally superior.
*[[Wikipedia:Overclocking|Overclocking]] is having a computer component run faster than the designed speed, usually referring to CPUs.

===Trivia===
*Strong Bad's list reads:
<blockquote class="lappy email">
Okay for [[Parents|Mom]] 
1. rear-end 
2. back parts 
3. fanny 
4. tush 
5. tushie 
6. buns 
7. booty 
8. can 
9. tuckus 
10. hinders 
11. bwathom 
12. boontockle</blockquote>

<blockquote class="lappy email">
107. hiney 
108. patootie 
109. bum 
110. rump 
111. trunk 
112. sit-part 
113. boat take</blockquote>

*Strong Bad claims that his monthly power bill is $70,000. Assuming that he pays the US national average price of [http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table5_6_a.html 9.86¢/kWh], that would mean that he uses approximately 710 MWh/month ([[Wikipedia:megawatt hours|megawatt hours]] per month). This would be roughly 800 times more than the average usage of [http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/reps/enduse/er01_us.html 888 kWh/month] per US household.
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#gamma force|gamma force]]".
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] when he announces for his eco-friendly piano.

===Remarks===
*Though the email senders say they are from Idaho and Missouri (ID and MO), the Easter egg shows the states Idaho and Montana (ID and MT).
**The day after the email was released, an additional Easter egg was added, fixing this and poking fun at the mistake.
*The only United States marketed hybrid car to achieve 65 miles per gallon was the [[wikipedia:Honda Insight|Honda Insight]] (61/70 mpg). It is no longer produced. Currently, the most efficient hybrid car is the [[wikipedia:Toyota Prius|Toyota Prius]] (45/48 mpg)
*Just like Strong Sad in [[concert]], Homestar is either playing with a left handed Atari 2600 joystick or is playing with the joystick sideways. The standard joystick has its button in the upper left hand corner.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When this email was originally released, while Homestar was playing the game and the power went out, every time he sighed, the wire stuck out of the top of the controller.
*Originally, after the close-up on the Lappy's "Environmentally Compliant Sticker" sticker, it disappeared and did not reappear for the rest of the email.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad claims he begins each day by "[[Not X|NOT]] dropping a piano on Marzipan".
*The window above the computer desk was last seen in [[cheat talk]] and the CGI portion of [[strongbad_email.exe Disc One|Disc 1]] of the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]].
*Marzipan and Strong Sad previously behaved as a team of environmental activists, as related on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]].
*The email references [[smoking]].
*Homestar mentions the game he's playing is "[[This is the (adjective) video game I've ever played|the easiest he's ever played]]".
*Marzipole and eco-mail are [[portmanteaus]].
*This email makes another reference to [[Making Out]].
*The Piano falls out of [[hammerspace]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Strong Sad's iPod|Strong Sad's MP3 player]] strongly resembles an [[wikipedia:iPhone|iPhone]] or an [[wikipedia:iPod Touch|iPod Touch]].
*''[[Wikipedia:Thelma & Louise|Thelma & Louise]]'' is a 1991 film starring [[Wikipedia:Geena Davis|Geena Davis]] as Thelma and [[Wikipedia:Susan Sarandon|Susan Sarandon]] as Louise.
*The exclamation "Al Gore's beard!" is reference to 45th Vice President of the United States and noted environmental activist [[Wikipedia:Al Gore|Al Gore]], who after losing the 2000 presidential campaign famously grew a beard and went into seclusion for a short period of time before refocusing on the environment.
*The "Environmentally Compliant" sticker is a play on [[Wikipedia:Energy Star|Energy Star]] and similar certifications used on electronics devices to rate their electricity consumption.

===Fast Forward===
*Strong Sad's MP3 player later appears on the [[Podstar Runner]] background after it was updated.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|186|13302}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

hygiene

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:19:30 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

{{sbenav|176}}
[[Image:Sbemail176.PNG|thumb|"What is John missing that Gene has?"]]

Strong Bad helps John with his hygiene video problem with some help from [[Embarrassing Educational Films]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|The Sad Kids}}, {{film|Strong Badman}} (Easter Egg), [[Strong Badman Characters#Moth Mouth|Moth Mouth]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Classroom]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, August 27, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:06

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Step 1: You check an email down! Step 2: You tell some kid he's a dork!

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>subject: hygiene movie</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
In 5th grade I have to watch a lame hygiene movie. I was thinking you could make a better movie about hygiene than the cruddy school version. 
Your friend, 
John Katulla
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Katulla" as "Katulalalalala"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Fifth grade boys?!?!! Man, what happened to the hot college girls that used to email me? You ladies stop your be-pantied pillowfighting and drop me a line!

''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I suppose I could make a cruddy hygiene movie for you, John. But wouldn't it be so much satisfying to make a cruddy hygiene movie ''about'' you?

''{Cut through static to a blue background. Jazzy music plays. Yellow letters saying "Embarrassing Educational Films" fly into frame. Afterwards the "E", "E", and "F" in the title light up and the word "presents" appears below them. Then we cut to another blue background with yellow letters that say "LESSON 1: SAY 'HI' TO HYGIENE"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Meet John...

''{The Text "john" appears and Homestar Runner as John pops up looking very dirty and unkempt}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' John is a cruddy 5th grader. Hi John.

''{The Text "hi" appears over the text "john"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER AS JOHN:''' I'm a latchkey champion!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Meet Gene...

''{The text "gene" appears. Strong Bad as Gene slides in. He has stylish blonde hair and a pink shirt.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gene is a beacon of light—

''{Shows Gene in a lighthouse with the lighthouse shining. The lighthouse grows smaller and enters a stink cloud made by John}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —shining through the stink cloud generated by John. Hi Gene.

''{The Text "hi" appears over the text "gene"}''

'''STRONG BAD AS GENE:''' TGIG y'all. Thank God I'm Gene.

''{Cuts to Gene standing or floating next to Strong Mad, Coach Z, Bubs, and Pom Pom, all having the same hair as Gene}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gene is popular and doesn't get good grades.

''{Shows a Fridgin'-A brand refrigerator with a piece paper reading "G-, but sooo charming". Cuts to a closeup of John}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' John has no friends—

''{Shows John sitting in a desk surrounded by two empty desks}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and sits in the front row.

''{Cuts to John in a light brown box and Gene in a light blue box}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What is John missing that Gene has? Besides rich parents...

''{Three bags of money drop in front of Gene}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right, hygiene!

''{"HYGIENE" appears. Cuts to a closeup of Gene}''

'''GENE:''' Hi, gals.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hygiene—

''{A dictionary pops up. A note is taped over the definition of hygiene}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —is defined as how close people are willing to stand next to you.

''{Cuts to a closeup of John's chest, with his star bent}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' John wears shabby clothes that smell like chocolate milk—

''{A chocolate milk carton with a thermometer in its mouth and squinted eyes pops up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —with a stomach virus.

''{John blows his nose on his star. He puts it back on. It has boogers on it and slides downwards. Cuts to Gene in front of the "Big Ol' Mall". Two bags fall in next to him, reading "styles upon styles"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gene's mom buys all of his clothes, but she is young and hot enough for that to be okay.

''{An exaggerated feminine hand with a ring emerges from the left. The hand is holding some keys.}''

'''GENE'S MOM:''' ''{voice}'' Mommy's got a grown-up headache, Gene. Why don't you take the boat out for a while?

''{Gene reaches for the keys. Cuts to a bathroom and John walks in. He briefly holds up a washcloth and a bar of soap before dropping them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Every morning, John wakes up and forgets to wash his stupid—

''{Cuts to more of a closeup of John's face. It gets closer and closer and closer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —dumb, stinking, ''{yelling}'' fat, smelly, stupid, du—

''{Cuts to a closeup of Gene's face, radiating energy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Every morning, the radiant energy from Gene's face—

''{Gene attaches two electricity generating wires to his cheeks, connecting them to a red light bulb on a pad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —powers a small light bulb.

''{The light bulb makes a buzzer noise and lights up. Cuts to a closeup of John's face}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' John's mouth is an ecological trainwreck.

''{John opens his mouth, which has a spider web in it. Stink lines come out of it. Black liquid drips from his mouth}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And has a nest of rare South American moths living inside it.

''{John burps and a moth flies out of it}''

'''JOHN:''' Now you be back before din-din, Chauncey.

''{Cuts to Gene's face. His mouth is shining}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gene's mouth is a national park...

''{A sign pops up showing a smile, two trees, two mountains and the words "Gene's Clean Mouth National Park". It also has the same hair as Gene's on top.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And his saliva is sold—

''{Gene spits and it forms into a bottle that says "El Gene's Spit" over South America}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —in South America as a wonder drug.

''{Cuts to John's room. John is sitting on his bed. There are milkshakes, french fries and bowls of cereal scattered all around the room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' John leaves food out all over his room.

''{Scrolls around the room. Cuts back to the middle}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And a family of squatters have taken up residence in a nearby laundry cave.

''{Shows The Sad Kids standing in front a pile of laundry carved into a cave. Cuts to Gene's room with a pennant saying "A sport!" and a wardrobe}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gene's Room has a sixteen car pile-up of race car beds.

''{Shows sixteen race car beds stacked on each other. 5 special effects artists with "THX" on their chests and 5 maids appear above the pile of race car beds}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And a family of 10 maids and special effect artists keep it realistically smoldering and burning.

''{The pile of race car beds catches fire}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, they also live in a nearby cave.

''{Shows the five maids and five special effects artists standing in front of a cave waving. Cuts to a tube and two jars of cream, powder, and paste}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What can John do to change his hygiene?

''{Cuts to John dropping the tube and two jars}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nothing at this point. ''{John looks shocked}'' By fifth grade the damage is already done.

''{Shows a pie chart with the Heading "What 5th Graders Remember You For". "Your Stink" is the biggest section, "Your Stonk" after that, followed by "Hot Mom", "Video Games", and "Cool Headband"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And everyone will remember him as a smelly loser no matter what he does.

''{Cuts back to John. Two pennants appear reading "Out of State U!" and "Go Non-Residents!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' He'll probably have to wait and go to an out of state college, where he can reinvent himself.

''{John transforms into a more typical-looking Homestar, with a small beard and a college shirt reading "OoSU Non-Residents"}''

'''JOHN:''' Hooray.

''{Cuts to Gene}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gene, on the other hand, better keep up the status quo. ''{a hand starts poking him}'' If he slips up the slightest bit, and gets lice ''{shows his hair with lice jumping up and down}'', or has an ''accident'' at school, ''{Gene covers his pants with his hands. Cut to Strong Mad, Coach Z, Bubs, and Pom Pom, all with menacing eyebrows and bright blonde hair. The camera slowly zooms in as the background turns red and the music becomes menacing.}'' those fifth graders will just descend on him like a ravenous ''{Cuts to Gene, looking nervous}'' pack of hygiene wolves. And tear him to shreds.

'''GENE:''' Hurray...? ''{Gulps}''

''{Cut to Gene standing next to the words "bye gene".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bye, Gene!

''{Cuts back to the blue background. Jazzy music plays again. Yellow letters saying "Embarrassing Educational Films" fly into frame. Afterwards and the "E", "E", and "F" in the title light up and the word "presents" appears below them. Then we cut to another blue background with yellow letters that say "LESSON 2: PANTS PROBLEMS". Cuts through static back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Okay John, all done. I hope your classmates like my video. And don't worry, in 8 or 9 years you can just hide behind your new identity as a raver, a greaser, or a whatever ancient Egyptian teenagers called themselves. Now get outta here! None of the college hotties'll show up if you're hanging around, Mothmouth.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down, showing alternating colors below the words "Calibration test". "Click here to email Strong Bad" is nowhere to be seen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, New Paper, you keep sucking just enough to stay interesting.

==Easter Eggs==

*At the end, click on "whatever" to see what Coach Z thinks of Strong Bad's video.
:''{Coach Z and Strong Bad are in the classroom. Strong Bad stands beside a TV stand. The television reads "Embarrassing Educational Films". Coach Z is sitting on a chair in front of the TV.}''
:'''COACH Z:''' I love it! Where can I get me some of this hygiene?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, for a guy that lives about ten feet from a bunch of showers, you'd think you'd be a little more familiar.
:'''COACH Z:''' What showers?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, that big tiled room with all the shower heads coming out of the wall?
:'''COACH Z:''' I thought thems were my drippy broken speakers! I got mad four-inch tweeters, B!
*At the end, click on "ancient" to see a tribute to Matt and Jackie's recently deceased cat, [[Mabel]].
*At the end, click on "Mothmouth" to see a Strong Badman comic cover about Moth Mouth.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Color calibration|calibration test]] is a test performed on many color printers to help the user adjust the colors it produces, and aid alignment of the heads of ink or toner cartridges.
*[[Wikipedia:tweeters|Tweeters]] are speakers designed to produce high-pitched frequencies.
*A raver is a person who goes to [[Wikipedia:rave|raves]], all night parties which often feature illegal drugs. These parties and the music associated with it peaked primarily in Europe in the early 1990s.
*[[Wikipedia:greaser (subculture)|Greasers]] were a subculture that originated in the 1950s and saw a revival in the 1970s. Their distinguishing characteristics were jeans, leather jackets and slicked back hair.
*Gene was [[Wikipedia:Upturned collar|popping his collar]], a popular trend among the [[Wikipedia:Preppy|preppy]] social classes in the mid-1980s and early 2000s.
*John's line "I'm a latchkey champion" refers to [[Wikipedia:Latchkey kid|latchkey kids]], a term applied to children that are often left alone in the house.
*TGIG, or "Thank God I'm Gene", comes from the acronym [[Wikipedia:TGIF|TGIF]], or "Thank God It's Friday".
*When Gene's mom mentions a "grown-up headache", she is most likely referring to a hangover.

===Trivia===
*The printed definition of ''hygiene'' obscured beneath the handwritten one is: "Conditions and practices that serve to promote or preserve health", which is the [[AHD:61/21/H0352100.html|second definition]] listed in the [[Wikipedia:The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language|American Heritage Dictionary]].
*Most of the time during the hygiene video, Strong Bad as Gene is seen [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiling]].

===Remarks===
*At the end, the New Paper prints out a calibration test resembling that from older [[wikipedia:HP DeskJet|HP DeskJet]] printers. However, you can still click on the lines to email Strong Bad.
*Coach Z has been seen taking a shower before in the second deleted scene of [[In Search of the Yello Dello]], making reference to "showering up" in the email [[flashback]] (which [[History According to Strong Bad|may or may not]] have actually happened), and having the [[record book|world record]] for "longest time without shower" (implying that he has showered before).
** Coach Z also claimed to be "lookin' out for all yer hygienes" in [[senior prom]] when adding Listerine to the punch, so he is familiar with hygiene.
*The floppy disk Strong Bad put in the New Paper in [[concert|the previous email]] is no longer there.
*When John blows his nose on his star, his tongue is visible.
*During the week of this email's release, there was both a "new strong bad email" [[Main Page Message]] for this email and a "strong bad email" Message for the one that preceeded it.
*In the Easter Egg concerning Mabel, Mabel's claws are blue and green.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Quack..PNG|thumb|cut'd!]]
*When John's hat is backward, part of the bottom of the bill is cut off.
*When John looks in the mirror, his reflection blinks a split second after his counterpart.

===Inside References===
*The way Strong Bad pronounces John Katulla's name is a reference to [[retirement]].
*The cat seen in the Easter egg is Mabel, [[Matt Chapman|Matt]] and [[Jackie Chapman|Jackie]]'s pet, who was previously seen in [[website]].
*John's room is littered with bowls of crispy puffed-rice cereal, last seen in [[candy product]].
**Also in John's room, there are baskets of [[French Fries|fries]] and a [[Minor Foods#Melt Shake|Melt Shake]].
*Gene's shopping bags are marked [[Styles Upon Styles]].
*Coach Z uses Homestar's [[TeeBee]] to watch the film.
*A bug previously took residence in Homestar Runner's mouth in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].
*"Stonk" was a word originally heard in the [[Quote of the Week]] of [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-12-07|December 7, 2006]].
*John's laundry cave uses the same sweatshirt designs as Homestar's Swe atshirt Float from [[Fall Float Parade]].
*Race-car beds were previously mentioned in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]] and [[secret identity]].
*Gene's grade of G- is a reference to [[g|the letter G]].
*This contains another mention of [[pants]], [[underwear]], and [[showering]].
*New Paper performed a calibration test because it was running out of ink, as stated in [[mini-golf]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:THX|THX]] is a set of high-end criteria for audio reproduction - predominantly used in movies. It is a trademark of [[Wikipedia:Lucasfilm|Lucasfilm]].
*The video parodies a style of educational film known as [[Wikipedia:Highlights for Children#Goofus & Gallant|Goofus & Gallant]], where two characters are used to contrast good and bad social behavior accompanied by heavy handed narration. This style of film was most commonly used in the 1950s and 1960s.
*The Strong Badman Easter egg is an homage to the cover of [[Wikipedia:Uncanny X-Men|Uncanny X-Men]] [http://www.marveldatabase.com/Uncanny_X-Men_28 #28].
*The Styles Upon Styles bags are based on the department store [[Wikipedia:Bloomingdale's|Bloomingdale's]] shopping bags, which they call "brown bags".

===Fast Forward===
*In [[bike thief]] and [[pizza joint]], Strong Bad receives emails from college girls and makes an ecstatic reply to the latter email.

==External Links==
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DNA Evidence

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:19:18 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */

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[[Image:DNA Evidence.png|thumb|"And that's why I believe the DNA evidence had been tampered with."]]

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Strong Sad attempts to solve the mystery of the DNA Evidence.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}} (also as [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]]), {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, [[Strong Badman Characters#Damp Towel Man|Damp Towel Man]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Badman}} (Easter egg), [[Strong Badman Characters#Dry Ragamuffin|Dry Ragamuffin]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Office]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Garage]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Smoky Office]], [[Computer Room]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, May 15, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 5:35

'''Page Title:''' All your questions....sort of answered!!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 3}}

==Transcript==
''{Yellow letters reading "Previously on HomestarRunner.com" on a black background zoom out slowly.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Previously ''{pronounced "preh-viously}'' on homestarrunner.com...

''{Fade to a scene from [[strong badathlon]], set in The Field. Marzipan and Homsar are sitting around a wooden table with a pink and white tea set on it. Faint music and finger snapping can be heard in the background.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ...and that's why I believe the DNA evidence had been tampered with.

''{The music continues. Cut to a clip from [[unnatural]], in Strong Badia. Strong Bad and The Cheat are seen sitting around a yellow table with a red and black teapot and matching teacups on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...and that's when I tampered with the DNA evidence!

''{The music continues. Cut to inside the movie theater, from [[the movies]]. Strong Sad is sitting in a seat next to Pom Pom.}''

'''MOVIE:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...the DNA evidence was gone!

''{The music continues. Cut to an excerpt of [[your funeral]], inside Marzipan's house. A statue of Strong Bad wrestling a cougar is sitting by Marzipan's couch; the statue has Homestar's trench coat and bowler hat hung on it. Homestar is standing in the middle of the room. Marzipan leans her head into the scene}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Did you find the DNA evidence?

''{The music continues. Cut to the office, as seen in [[from work]]. Strong Bad is sitting at his computer. Pom Pom, already halfway offscreen, bounces away from the cubicle. Homestar shuffles after him, bending over with a downtrodden look.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll have that DNA evidence on your desk by five.

''{The music continues. Cut to the Easter Egg from [[rough copy]], inside Marzipan's house. Homestar is sitting on the couch, looking sad. The lights are off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' DNA evidence.

''{The music continues. A guitar comes in to the music and begins playing a jazzy tune. Cut to a purple background with "The DNA Evidence" written onscreen, angled and in block letters. The camera pans down to Strong Sad. A crowd is heard in the background. Strong Sad has an easel on his right with "DNA Evidence" written across the top and a diagram of different characters and links between them.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Attention! ''{raises right hand}'' Your attention please!

''{Cut to Homsar with his mouth open on the other side of the room. Homsar gulps and closes his mouth. The crowd noises stop. Cut back to Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' After extensive investigation, I'm ready to release ''{raises his right hand and turns his head toward the chart}'' my findings. I first spoke with...

''{Cut to Marzipan in her kitchen}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{spoken with a faux French accent}'' Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, it all started several weeks ago.

''{Cut to Marzipan's living room. Marzipan is walking in wearing a toga. There are muddy footprints on the carpet.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{voiceover}'' I came home from my toga-yoga class to find that my house had been broken into and that the culprit had left behind some DNA evidence.

''{As she walks, the screen pans left towards the couch. The cushions are disarranged and the "Thank You" picture on the wall is crooked. The muddy prints stop at the couch. Something made of glass is just visible behind one of the cushions. Marzipan looks at the footprints. Cut to Strong Sad holding a pen and his notebook in Marzipan's kitchen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' What was it? Hair particles? Skin flakes? Blood crispies?

''{Cut back to toga Marzipan in front of ransacked couch.}

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{voiceover}'' No, it was a little test tube just full of green DNA evidence.

''{As she says this, toga Marzipan pulls out a test tube filled with green liquid from the couch. Cut to close up of Marzipan inspecting the tube. Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh. ''{he writes something down}'' Just like in the movies.

''{Cut to front of Marzipan's house, toga Marzipan is walking out holding the test tube.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I immediately took it to Bubs to be analyzed...

''{Cut back to Marzipan in her kitchen}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ...and ''this'' ''{holds up a tube filled with purple liquid and stamped with a "TAMPERED WITH!" label}'' is all I got back.

''{A scene in Strong Bad's garage scrolls in from the right. Bubs is present.}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, it all started a few weeks ago. I just got finished teaching my...

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is walking inside wearing a toga.}

'''BUBS:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...toga-yoga class, ''{Bubs takes off his toga}'' when old-maid Marzipan showed up.

''{Marzipan, still wearing her toga, walks onscreen.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey, Bubs. Can you analyze this ''{she holds up the test tube}'' DNA evidence for me?

''{Cut to the inside of the stand. Bubs is silhouetted on the left.}''

'''BUBS:''' Sure thing, but it's gonna cost you an arm and a leg!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Not a problem.

''{Marzipan hands over the test tube to Bubs. Cut to Strong Sad in the garage.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' So, what did you find out when you analyzed it?

''{Cut back to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh, ''that''. Well, next thing I know...

''{Cut to inside of stand with silhouette}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...Strong Bad shows up.

''{Strong Bad pops up from under the counter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Bubs. One green apple snow cone please.

'''BUBS:''' Comin' right up!

''{Bubs moves out of view. Cut to a shelf with four hand-soap containers labeled "Red", "Purple", "Green Apple", and "Blue". All contain various levels of appropriately-colored liquid, except for the "Green Apple" container, which has a hole near its bottom. Some soft music begins to play. Scene zooms out slowly.}''

'''BUBS:''' Ooh. Er...

''{Cut to bubs holding an unflavored snowcone in one hand and the evidence in the other.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{looks at the snowcone}'' Uh... ''{looks at the DNA evidence}'' Blaaaah...

''{Bubs pours the evidence over the snow cone. Music stops. Cut to outside of stand}''

'''BUBS:''' Here ya go. One... ''{turns head to the side}'' cough, cough... ''{looks back at Strong Bad}'' green apple snowcone.

''{Bubs hands the cone over to Strong Bad. Cut to Strong Sad, writing something down. He stops and looks up.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' You served the DNA in a snowcone?!

''{Cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{raising his right arm}'' And it sold like hotcake!

''{A scene in the Smoky Office scrolls up from the bottom of the screen. Strong Bad is sitting at the desk, leaning back in the chair. He is wearing his Dangeresque glasses, and there is a lit cigarette in the ashtray on the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I bought the DNA snowcone.

''{Cut to Strong Sad in front of a window, writing with the pad and pen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' You ''knew'' it had the DNA evidence in it?!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, yeah.

''{Cut to side of Bubs' Concession Stand. Strong Bad is standing there wearing his shades. Marzipan walks up, wearing a toga.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I overheard that Marzipan had some DNA evidence, and I figured I could use it to continue my genetic experiments on The Cheat.

''{As he says this, Strong Bad leans to the right. Marzipan holds up the tube and talks to Bubs. Strong Bad rubs his hands together with glee and jumps off toward the back of the stand. Cut to the shelf with the snowcone flavorings. The "Green Apple" beaker is relatively full.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I sprung into action.

''{Strong Bad appears and punctures the bottom of the Green Apple container with a pencil before ducking down again. The liquid pours out. Cut to a view from inside the stand; the soft music starts again. Strong Bad pops up from beneath the counter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs-keep, one green-app' sno'c, on the rocks. And keep it rusty.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in the office.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' By the time I got home, it was all melted...

''{Cut to computer room. Strong Bad walks in from the right, still wearing Dangeresque glasses, and carrying a glass of green liquid.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...so I put it in a glass on my desk and went downstairs ''{Strong Bad puts the glass on the desk and walks offscreen}'' to do one of my high-impact toga-yoga videos.

''{Cut back to office}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And that's the last I saw of it.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, writing something down.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' You left it on your desk, eh? ''{he looks up}''

''{A scene in Marzipan's house scrolls in from the right. Focus on Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I swung by Strong Bad's the other day. ''{angry expression}'' The old lady had me out looking for some kind of ''{brightens up}'' Dan evidence.

''{Cut to computer room. The vial of DNA evidence is still on the desk. Homestar walks on from the right, wearing a hat and trenchcoat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I'm wearing a hat and trenchcoat! ''{Notices the glass}'' Ooh! A tall, cool glass of Mountain Dwah.

''{Cut to close-up}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Don't mind if I dwah! ''{He drinks the evidence.}'' Glug, glug, glug.

''{After a short pause, Homestar spits it out. Cut to a dripping, green-tinted The Cheat, on the left side of the Lappy.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut back to Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, sorry, The Cheat. That stuff tasted like dwah-dwah.

''{Cut back to The Cheat, who is wiping himself off with a gross towel.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut back to Strong Sad, writing something down.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' So he wiped his face off with a gross towel, eh? ''{he looks up}''

''{A locker room screen scrolls in from the right. Coach Z is there, looking upset.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You figured it out, Strong Sad! My cover is blown! I am actually...

''{Coach Z pats his chest and puts his hands on his hips. A heroic halo appears briefly around him, accompanied by an heroic sound effect.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ...Damp Towel Man! ''{cups his chin in his hand}'' And also his mild-mannered alter-ego, Dan Towelman.

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z, no one's ever heard of those people.

''{Cut to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Damp Towel Man is a super hero. He collects damp towels from across the galaxy.

''{Cut to computer room, where a now green-spotted towel rests on the desk. Coach Z comes on from the left, wearing a black mask and a towel around his neck like a cape.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Moist molecules! A green-stained damp towel! The rarest and most powerful kind!

''{Cut to the office. A janitorial cart rolls onto the screen from the left, with the towel on it.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I took the towel to work the next day to see if it could clean up microwave lazanya stains.

''{Coach Z walks by with a vacuum cleaner and starts humming. Homestar shuffles by from the right, looking angry and muttering to himself.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Stupid DNA evi''dence''! Where am I supposed to find evi''dence'' by 5:00?

''{Cut back to Coach Z in the locker room}''

'''COACH Z:''' But when I got back to my cart, it was gone! I suspect it was my nemesis, ''{shakes his fist}'' Dry Ragamuffin! Or his mild-mannered alter ego, Dreyfus Ragámoofin.

''{Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z, you have a real sucky imagination.

''{Cut back to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' That I do, my boy, that I do. ''{pats his chin}'' Though I ''did'' notice that...

''{Cut to the office, slowly zooming in on some muddy boots. Strong Bad can be seen on the right sitting at his desk. Coach Z's vacuum is moving back and forth.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...Strong Bad had some muddy boots sitting under his quorbicle.

''{Cut back to Coach Z in locker room.}''

'''COACH Z:''' I didn't find that at ''all'' suspicious.

''{The same scene in the Smoky Office scrolls up from the bottom of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' First of all, those were ''not'' muddy. I'd been stomping around in pecan pie all morning. Marzipan's allergic to pecans, you know.

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' So it was ''your'' DNA evidence!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, no. It was yours.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, whose eyes are now bugging out. Zoom in on Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''Whaaaaaat?!''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I was just swiping the change from—

''{Cut to Marzipan's living room. Strong Bad is wearing the pecan mush-covered boots, has the test tube in the back of his pants, and is on the couch, pulling money from it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —Marzipan's couch cushions. And I must've accidentally dropped it.

''{The test tube leaps out of Strong Bad's pants and lands on the couch. Cut back to Strong Bad in Smoky Office.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, I was ''{holds up hand with thumb close to the main part of the glove}'' ''this'' close to finding out if you're really part elephant or part hippo or something.

''{Cut back to Strong Sad, who looks angry}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I am ''not''!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, now I guess we'll never know for sure. Now if you'll excuse me, ''{Dangeresque music starts}'' the stairs of this building have been burned down by termites. So it looks like I'm gonna have to jump!

''{Strong Bad jumps off the screen. Fade out, then in to close-up of the bottom of Strong Sad's bed. Strong Sad pulls out his "fond reminiscences" box from underneath it; it has the same contents as it did in [[The Secrets That I Keep]], with the notable exception of the DNA evidence test tube. Strong Sad grabs the test tube. Cut to close-up of Strong Sad smiling.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yes. The world will ''never'' know for sure. Oh-ho-ho-ho.

''{Zoom in on Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho.

''{Zoom in on Strong Sad again; the camera is now angled.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ooh-hoo-ho-ho-ho-ho!

''{Zoom in even closer. Strong Sad now has a maniacal expression on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha!

''{Cut to Strong Bad stealing change from Marzipan's couch. Pan left to see Strong Sad peeking through the window}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo!

''{Cut to Marzipan giving the test tube to Bubs. Pan up to see Strong Sad on the roof.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Ah-ha-ha-ha!

''{Cut to Coach Z's cart. Strong Sad comes up from behind it and reaches for the towel.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Hah-ha-ha-ha-ha!

''{Cut back to Strong Sad standing in his room, holding up the test tube.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Woo-ho-ho-ho!

''{Cut to a long view of the room, revealing that Homsar is standing next to Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ah-ha-ha-ha! Woo-ha-ha—

''{Record scratch. Strong Sad looks down and finally notices Homsar there.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh. Hi. You're not gonna say anything, are you?

''{Cut to a close-up of Homsar.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAa, these Easter pants are getting waAaAy too tight! ''{His hat flies off his head on "pants", slides backwards on "way", and performs a backflip off his mouth on "too tight".}''

''{Two ascending notes play, accompanied by the screen turning black except for a small circle around Homsar's eyes. Fade to black. "THE END" appears on a purple background in block letters, zooming out slowly.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Damp towel man.PNG|thumb|"Moist Molecules, it's Damp Towel Man!"]]
*Click on the Z on Coach Z's medallion after he reveals that he's Damp Towel Man to see a Strong Badman comic.
*Click on the Z again in the scene he mentions Dry Ragamuffin to see another Strong Badman comic, starring a character that resembles Bubs.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*This cartoon is based on the [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|DNA Evidence running gag]] that appeared in six straight emails, beginning with [[strong badathlon]].
*"Old maid" is a term used to disparagingly describe an older, unmarried woman.
*"On the rocks" means to pour over ice, usually said when ordering an [[Alcohol|alcoholic]] beverage.
*[[Wikipedia:Ragamuffin|Ragamuffin]] is a term used to describe a child wearing shabby clothing.
*"Costing an arm and a leg" is an idiom used to convey an extremely high price.
*"Selling like [[hotcake]][s]" means to sell very well.

===Trivia===
*The text on the [[Lappy 486]] reads:
<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">
Hi. Yeah, go ahead and very safely enter most of your 
credit card numbers onto this Lappy. It will safen it all 
out. 
 
Thanks, 
The Strong Badagement</blockquote>
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#3DFX drivers|3DFX drivers]]".
*The bottle of cleaning fluid on Coach Z's Janitator cart is labelled "DANG!"
*This is Strong Badman's first appearance outside of [[Strong Bad Email]]s.
*This is yet another instance of both [[Strong Bad Smiling|Strong Bad]] and [[Strong Sad smiling]].

===Remarks===
*In the Marzipan and Homsar scene from [[strong badathlon]], when Marzipan says "...had been tampered with," the whatsit covered The Cheat doesn't appear in the background.
*Strong Sad is able to write in his [[notebook]] without any problems, but in [[rough copy]], he had trouble writing a mere sentence on a single page of the same notebook.
*The puncture that Strong Bad makes is well above the bottom of the green apple bottle, but all the liquid leaks out.
*Homestar's trenchcoat seems to be unaffected by gravity, as it remains stiff and straight even as he bends over.
*In the "Big Toons" section of the [[TV Time Toons Menu]], the description reads, "Strong Sad gets to the bottom of all this mess," while the description on the [[New Stuff]] menu omits the word "all".
*Coach Z seems to go over by Strong Bad after Homestar, but if he went up to Strong Bad while he was still using the Bar graph, (refers to [[from work]] and [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]) then he would have to have gone before Homestar.
*When Strong Bad recaps his purchase of the DNA snow cone to Strong Sad, the line is different from when Bubs recapped the story, despite it being a flashback of the same event. This could be explained as Strong Bad wanting to make himself sound cooler in his own retelling.
*Bubs-keep, Strong Badagement and janitator are [[portmanteaus]].

===Goofs===
*The smoke from the office only wafts in the first few shots before Strong Bad speaks his account of what happened at Bubs' Concession Stand.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When this toon was first released, when Marzipan was walking up to Bubs' Concession Stand, she was not wearing her toga. This was fixed less than an hour after the toon was released.

===Inside References===
*This is another mention of [[Mountain Dew]].
*Homestar's mispronunciation of DNA and Coach Z's "mild mannered alter-ego" are references to [[Dan]].
**Furthermore, Coach Z's alter-ego's last name is an example of [["Man" pronounced as "m'n"]].
*The box Strong Sad pulls the DNA Evidence out of in the last scene is from [[The Secrets That I Keep]].
*Strong Bad's glasses, the line "Looks like I'm gonna have to jump!", and the background music in the respective scenes are from the [[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]] series of films.
*Marzipan's response to the cost of "an arm and a leg" and the way the arm of Homestar's coat moves as he takes a drink are references to their [[lack of visible arms]] and, in her case, [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Marzipan's Legs|legs]].
*Homsar mentions [[pants]].
*Coach Z's janitor cart reads "JANITATOR", similar to [[Trogdor|Trogdor the Burninator]].
*The vacuum cleaner and Coach Z's line about cleaning up lasagna are references to [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]].
*The text on the Lappy implies [[credit card fraud]].
*Homestar seems to think the DNA evidence tasted like [[whatsit]].



===Real-World References===
*The entire structure of the toon, with a detective interviewing several people when he ultimately is the culprit, is a nod to [[wikipedia:Film noir|film noir]], a style of American film that peaked in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
*The opening titles and ending in which Strong Sad laughs maniacally and appears in a window, on a roof, and behind the cleaning supplies is a direct reference to [[Wikipedia:Killer Bob (Twin_Peaks)|Killer Bob]], mysterious antagonist of [[Wikipedia:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]]. The character was created because of a happy accident in which crew member [[Wikipedia:Frank Silva|Frank Silva]] was caught in frame during shooting of the pilot, thus explaining the unwieldy positions in which Strong Sad appears.
*The music in the background of the opening sequence is an homage to [[Wikipedia:Angelo Badalamenti|Angelo Badalamenti's]] music for the American television show [[Wikipedia:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]].


==DVD Version==
*Marzipan wears her toga in her two appearances during the clips of past emails.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' Finally, Matt, we get to find out what's up with this DNA evidence.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. It's, uh— this is sort of a first. We... we like to not have a lot of continuity in our cartoons, so they can all sort of be stand-alone. Uh... but, uh, we decided to go ahead and, uh— This started as just a joke, right? As just a one-off joke.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, there was one. And then the second time, the second email, we thought, "Oh, we should say something about the DNA evidence! About how ''he'' tampered with the..." And then we did it five weeks in a row, or five emails in a row.

'''MATT:''' And then—

'''MIKE:''' Decided to use all that, and then base the cartoon around those weird little... snippets.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. I think after the third one we started talking about making a cartoon like this.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' You can tell Melissa's got a cold here. She's a little snotty.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' So, since Strong Sad is the culprit of all this, Mike. Um...

'''MIKE:''' Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert! Matt just told you who the culprit is! Go ahead, go ahead. We're cool, now.

'''MATT:''' Okay. Uh... highlight— this is all spoken in inviso-text, Mike, so you have to highlight it in order to read it.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, right.

'''MATT:''' Uh... so, why is he doing this? Is he just doing it to— to sort of find out who... Oh, 'cause he's trying to find out who got the DNA evidence?

'''MIKE:''' I don't remem— Don't ask me, man!

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Did we come up with that side of it?

'''MIKE:''' It was hard enough— ''{laughing}'' It was hard enough trying to connect all that stuff together. If it didn't quite work out, that's... not my fault.

'''MATT:''' Look! Bubs has snow cones again!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Like from... a long, long time ago. The jumping jack cartoon, maybe. ''{as Strong Sad}'' Were you loose-leafin' it with that piece of make-out? ''{back to his regular voice}'' Oh, it's Dangeresque, Mike! ''{pronounced Dangeresque with a hard G sound}''

'''MIKE:''' Is it really Dangeresque, or is it just Strong Bad with the glasses on?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, or is it just Strong Bad's imagination? ''{pause}'' He would never order something ''that'' cool if he wasn't Dangeresque.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''MATT:''' So he's gotta be makin' that up. ''{pause}'' Some... 3dfx drivers, Mike, on his disk there.

'''MIKE:''' Is that what it was?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. He'd just upgraded to a 3dfx card.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' He can play the original Tomb Raider, maybe. That was the first game I ever played with my 3dfx card. ''{pause}'' This is a, uh... a little first here. Uh...

'''MIKE:''' How so?

'''MATT:''' When Homestar picks up this glass and you actually see his—

'''MIKE:''' Evidence that his arms are invisible.

'''MIKE:''' Right

'''MATT:''' And not that he's telekinetic.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That he actually has arms, but they're invisible. ''{pause}'' I love that "gross towel" immediately equals Coach Z.

'''MIKE:''' ''{over Matt's previous line}'' Instantly means Coach Z. ''{pause}'' That towel— Coach Z and gross towels— it's been a pretty recent— in the last year or so, there's been a few references to—

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' —towels hasn't there?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' And Coach Z?

'''MATT:''' I don't know if I want to watch The Adventures of Damp Towel Man.

'''MIKE:''' I like his catch phrase!

'''MATT:''' His catch phrase is pretty great. ''{pause}'' Um... DANG! Look at that cleaner!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That's a great cleaner. ''{pause}'' That was, uh... I was trying to think of— There's some rap song, and I don't even remember what it is, but it was like, "We large like them elephants! We ain't leavin' no eviDENCE!" So...

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' "...no eviDENCE!"

'''MATT:''' That's what Homestar was talkin' about. ''{pause}'' Uh... it helped, making this cartoon, that I had just been— I had just rewatched the original, season one and two of Twin Peaks. The theme song is very heavily Twin Peaks, uh... influenced, I think.

'''MIKE:''' We just got to see Strong Bad's boots off his feet.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' That's another first.

'''MATT:''' Though I think— I feel like this DNA evidence cartoon is actually— makes a little more sense and ties things up a little more neatly than Twin Peaks did.

'''MIKE:''' ''{over Matt's last line, laughing}'' ...than Twin Peaks!

'''MATT:''' ''{as Strong Sad}'' Boo! I don't like food anymore! ''{back to his regular voice}'' Where is this office, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Uh, it's— That is— It's upstairs... uh, above... Bubs's I think.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Really? There's an upstairs... apartment above Bubs's? ''{pause}'' Smiley Strong Sad. Maniacal-laughing Strong Sad, also. These are all rare— rare occurrences.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, Strong Sad was there, in all these places... watching.

'''MATT:''' He's not very careful, Mike. He forgot that someone was standing one foot away from him. ''{pause}'' Ooh.

'''MIKE:''' Uh oh.

'''MATT:''' Homsar... wins.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

===Fun Facts===
*Matt's line about "looseleafin' it with that piece of make-out" refers to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], where Strong Sad asks "Were you first-basin' it with that piece of looseleaf?"
*Matt refers to Strong Sad's "I don't like food anymore" line said in [[2 years]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:DNA.html|watch "DNA Evidence"]]
*[[HR:DNA.swf|view the Flash file for "DNA Evidence"]]
*[[Forum:11443|forum thread re: DNA Evidence]]

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Trogdor Con '97

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:16:06 GMT

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[[Image:trogdorcon.PNG|200px|thumb|"It's not called TrogdorCon, and it's 2005."]]
Strong Bad heads to the comic book convention. Why? To make fun of nerds, of course!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Booth 101]], The King of Town's Booth (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, September 5, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:10

'''Page Title:''' Con as in Convention!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

==Transcript==
''(Strong Bad and The Cheat are seen behind a booth with a banner that reads "[[TROGDOR]]-Con" above them. Strong Bad taps his fists on the table in anticipation.)''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, so here we are at TrogdorCon! Got booths set up and lookin' good! So, The Cheat—these cons... what exactly is gonna go on here?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Geeks and nerds?! That doesn't sound like anything I wanna be a part of!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ladies in skimpy sci-fi costumes? That sounds like ''everything'' I wanna be a part of! Are you sure they're in the same place as the geeks and nerds? That doesn't make any sense. Ladies in skimpy outfits should be hanging out with me... and to a lesser degree, football players and rappers. Not geeks, nerds, or any of their smelly brethren.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I'll see it when I believe it.

''{Homestar Runner walks up. He has a paper star taped over his normal star and is wearing a red beanie with propeller similar to The Homestar Runner's over his usual cap.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oooh, Booth 101! My favorite booth! Hey, guess who I'm supposed to be!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... Homestar Runner?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, you got it! First try! Was it my star ''{he shows off his paper star}'' or propeller cap ''{he bends over and shows off his cap}'' that gave it away?

'''STRONG BAD:''' It was your unbelievably loose grasp on the world around you.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I guess I do have one of those. Hey, what kind of cool stuff do you guys have here? Got any pewter figurines, or maybe some magna?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nope, just hangin' out. Seeing what walks by.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh oh, I can walk by! Here, watch! ''{Runs offscreen to the left, and instantly returns, walking slowly and staring at his feet. As he moves, his words are not in time with his steps.}'' Left, right, left, right, right, right, no—left, right, left, right. ''{exits}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, by the way The Cheat, what are gamertags? Why do we have boxes of them behind us?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So we're not really selling gamertags?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What're we really gonna be selling? Some of those ''million sided dies''?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, us hanging out selling gamertags is a front for us plain ol' hanging out.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, you're a genius! I don't pay you enough!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{glares at Strong Bad}'' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh right, I don't pay you at all. That's what I meant to say. ''{leans back and puts his feet up}'' Now let's kick back and see if we can't summon some skimpily-clad ladies to ye olde gamertag booth.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat jumps onto the table and plays an alpine horn}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sits up again}'' Oh! Where'd you get that bad boy?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Booth 709, huh? I'll have to go check that out!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They've got axes and swords!? Man, this con just keeps gettin' better all the time!

''{Strong Sad enters from left, wearing a pair of semi-transparent Trogdor-style wings, an armband, eyeliner, blood teardrops, a tribal-tattoo style design around his belly button, and with his toenails painted black}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and we've hit a snag.

'''STRONG SAD:''' What are you guys doing here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hangin' out. Don't tell nobody, but secretly we're really just hangin' out.

'''STRONG SAD:''' But didn't it cost money to get a booth?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I don't know where The Cheat got 500 bucks or where your missing 500 bucks is. All I know is that we're hanging out here at TrogdorCon '97! Or in your case, Trog-''dork-on'' '97.

'''STRONG SAD:''' It's not called TrogdorCon and it's 2005.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It might be for you, but ''{pause}'' you're... a butt. ''{smiles}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's a good 'un, Strong Bad. Okay, I'm gonna go buy some ''{with [[Foreign Words|exaggerated inflection]] and movements}'' anime!

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's called Japanimation! ...Least it was last time I checked... which was 1987. ''{The Poopsmith walks by in shadow in his Sleestak costume.}'' I don't know about all this, The Cheat. Maybe it's time we filled up that horn of yours with pea soup and tried to shoot it all the way over to that Godzilla guy's booth.

''{The Cheat holds up a can of pea soup and the horn. He and Strong Bad run off. The word "endeth" appears over the screen, and The Cheat's horn is heard in the distance.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Moving the cursor over "New Short" on [[Main Page 22]] during the week of the update displayed The Cheat's horn off to the right side.
* Clicking the 'tag?' on the "gamertag?" sign at the end will result in this:
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{drenched in pea soup, breathing heavily, and speaking very angrily}'' Ohhh, somebody picked the wrong authorized Godzilla reseller to mess with today!

* At the end, click on the period in "endeth." to see Strong Bad criticizing people's costumes.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, loincloth, please to be putting on more clothes... Ugh... like five or six... more clothes... ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what's up, ironic costume? I suppose you think you're cooler than everyone here! Well guess what: ''You're also here.'' At the comic book convention. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I never thought I'd see the day where a tattoo was a bad thing, but you madam, have shown me the light. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Just for fun I think I'm gonna start throwing boxes of gamertags at dudes wearin' kilts. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD''': The fact that your costume is accurate down to the tiniest detail does not change the fact that that TV show ''sucked''. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD''': Man if I see another person in a diaper— ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, hello Rotunda! Your physique certainly merits you wearing that leather bikini and fishnet hose.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Manga|Manga]] is the Japanese term for comic books, literally translated as "whimsical pictures." Outside of Japan itself, it specifically refers to comics of Japanese origin (and sometimes comic books drawn in the Japanese style). Homestar's "[[Foreign Words|magna]]" is a common misspelling and mispronunciation among English-speaking comic book fans.
*Similarly, [[Wikipedia:Anime|anime]] is the Japanese term for animated cartoons, used outside of the country to specifically refer to cartoons of Japanese origin. "Japanimation" is an American term for anime that is now rarely used and considered outdated and even racist by some fans.

===Trivia===
*Booth 101 was the booth that [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt]] had at [[Store#DragonCon|DragonCon '05]].
*Booth 709 at DragonCon was occupied by [http://www.edhellen.com/ Edhellen Armoury], and sold axes and swords.
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad Smiling]].


===Remarks===
*Though Strong Bad says he doesn't pay The Cheat, he has been shown paying him in [[lackey]], albeit with pencil shavings. He also pays the Cheat in soft tacos for his lawyer services in [[rough copy]].
*This was the longest short when it was released, and is similar in size to two toons released just before it. In fact, it is even longer than the toons [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], [[The Reddest Radish]], and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's hand is disconnected from his body for a short time while rubbing his chin.

===Inside References===
*The Poopsmith's [[Pumpkin Carve-nival Costumes|Sleestak costume]] was first seen in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*The King of Town is shown to hate [[peas]] in [[different town]].
*Strong Bad mentions [[1987]] as being the last time he checked whether anime was the same as Japanimation.
*Homestar's chant of "left, right, left, right, right, right, no—" is similar to the description of [[50K Racewalker]] on the [[Videlectrix]] games catalog page.
*The sound used when Strong Bad moves the "Gamertags?" sign is the same [[sound effect]] used for [[The Geddup Noise]].

===Real-World References===
*"Gamertags" are accounts used by [[Wikipedia:Xbox Live|Xbox Live]] subscribers, as well as other online video and computer games.
*"Million sided die" is in reference to the [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]] style of role-playing game, where the dice can have anywhere up to [[Wikipedia:Zocchihedron|100 sides]], as well as to the fact that conventions such as DragonCon have vendors that sell such unusual dice.
*[[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]] is a fictitious giant reptile, made famous by his appearances in movies from the Japanese studio [[Wikipedia:Toho|Toho Corporation]].

== DVD Version ==
*To access the Strong Bad egg, click down on the remote until the HR logo lights up. To access the King of Town egg, click right until the star of the logo lights up.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' ''{sings}'' We put this cartoon up, the time we did a con... ''{speaks}'' So yeah, we did, uh, DragonCon in Atlanta a couple months ago. A month ago.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' And umm, originally we were gonna make this to show at the con in our booth; we had a little booth that looked pretty much like the booth that The Cheat and Strong Bad are at.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Umm, though we spent more of our time making a fake Strong Badia fence and painting a stop sign to look like Strong Badia.

'''MIKE:''' But anyway, so we didn't get it done in time to show at DragonCon but we did this— we had it written, and since that went through the weekend, this was our Monday update.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Yeah, what do you think, guys?

'''MIKE:''' Gamer— gamertag!

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That seems like something—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That's my buzzword. ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Umm... yeah, Strong Bad doesn't have a— any kind of gaming system that would— that has gamertags involved with it.

'''MIKE:''' No. That, uh, Halloween cos— err, that costume that Homestar's wearing: last Halloween, uh, he dressed up—

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' [[Homestar vs. Little Girl 2]].

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, the puppet, uh, Homestar puppet had that costume on.

'''MATT:''' He did.

'''MIKE:''' But none of those takes made it into the final cut.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Not very funny.

'''MIKE:''' It was a good costume, though.

'''MATT:''' She wasn't kicking him in those, so we didn't use them. Umm, so there were a lot of pewter figurines at DragonCon.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I was surprised. It was the first con I'd ever been to, and I was surprised at how much like what I thought it was—

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' —gonna be it was.

'''MATT:''' Lots of dice booths...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, there was a booth all of dice, and...

'''MATT:''' We were in Booth 101, too, weren't we? That was our actual booth number? And, uh, later on, uh, we— Strong Bad makes come comment about dudes wearing kilts. And our man Phil from, uh...

'''MIKE:''' Ah, yes!

'''MATT:''' A booth around the way was wearing a kilt. He was dressed in a nice— a nice Scots garb, all—

'''MIKE:''' Very nice man, very nice man.

'''MATT:''' Is it OK that I mentioned Phil?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah! We didn't men— we don't know his last name.

'''MATT:''' Rizzuto.

'''MIKE:''' I'm sure there's a lot of Phils.

'''MATT:''' Probably Rizzuto.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That were wearing kilts there.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' That's probably very true, Mike. Truer than you could know. Umm, so here's another convoluted cockamamie scheme like the [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] scheme, where the gamertags— they're selling gamertags as a front for just wasting time—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Hanging out—

'''MATT:''' —yet they paid... I really like your Norse horn there, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Did I make that?

'''MATT:''' I think you did—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' I think I... The old Google image searss— search and trace.

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Oh yeah, and that booth— that booth number he just said was, uh, was a real booth at DragonCon that was selling axes and swords.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh, remember the axes and swords? Oh, lots of people dressed— lots of people with wings!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Wings were...

'''MATT:''' Not dressed as anything in particular just...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, just wings.

'''MATT:''' I'm winged, and then kind of have some Marilyn Manson makeup on...

'''MIKE:''' I'm winged!

'''MATT:''' Winga, winga...

'''MIKE:''' I like AFI, and I have wings.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That's right, Mike. '97.

'''MIKE:''' '97's something...

'''MATT:''' Is that the same, Awexome Cross '97, right?

'''MIKE:''' I think it's [[Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross '98]].

'''MATT:''' Is it? We don't know our website very well, do we?

'''MIKE:''' I think it's '98, 'cause I think I actually looked at that 'cause I thought it was '97. too.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' But TrogdorCon '97 sounds good.

'''MATT:''' I love it when— I love it when Strong Bad sah— smiles, and I love it when Strong Sad pronounces— overly pronounces things.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Originally we were gonna have lots of characters walking all around, making it look full, but I stopped after I made the Poopsmith walk by in his old Halloween costume.

'''MATT:''' No new graphics!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' I got lazy.

'''MATT:''' Ka-chent!

=== Fun Facts ===

*[[Wikipedia:Marilyn Manson|Marilyn Manson]], born Brian Warner, is the leader of an alternative metal/alternative rock band also called [[Wikipedia:Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]]. The band members have been known to wear makeup similar to that worn by Strong Sad in this toon.
*[[Wikipedia:Phil Rizzuto|Phil Rizzuto]] is a former New York Yankees player and sportscaster, famous for his catchphrase "Holy Cow!"
*[[Wikipedia:AFI (band)|AFI]] is a band that usually wears dark make-up.

==See Also==
*[[Bobby Blackwolf Interview - 5 Sep 2005]] — [[the Brothers Chaps]] and [[Jonathan Howe]] interviewed at Dragon Con 2005
*[[Moron Life Interview - 5 Sep 2005]] — the Brothers Chaps interviewed at Dragon Con 2005

== External Links ==
*[[HR:trogdorcon.html|watch "TrogdorCon '97"]]
*[[HR:trogdorcon.swf|view the Flash file for "TrogdorCon '97"]]
*[[Forum:4825|forum thread re: "TrogdorCon '97"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|trogdorcon}}

[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]
[[Category:Events]]

A Jorb Well Done

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:46 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */ smiling occurrences are trivia

{{toonnav|Big Toon|cantsayjob|The Reddest Radish|The Luau}}
[[Image:cantsayjob.png|thumb|It's not "jaerb," it's "job."]]

Coach Z can't say the word ''job''. The rest of the gang tries to teach him. JAERB!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, [[Tom Servo]], {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Athletic Field]], [[The Classroom]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Graffiti Wall]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]

'''Date:''' Friday, March 2, 2001

'''Running Time:''' 4:00

'''Page Title:''' A Jorb Well Done

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

== Transcript ==

''{We're at some type of sports field. Homestar is running back and forth and he knocks over Strong Sad. Pom Pom starts jumping on him and the electronic score board is keeping count. Also, Bubs is there for some reason. Coach Z blows his whistle}''

'''COACH Z:''' Okay there boys, pack it up, pack it in.

''{Homestar walks over to him, sweating}''

'''COACH Z:''' Great jaerb there, Homestar.

''{Homestar opens his mouth in shock}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhhhm... I'm sorry. What?

'''COACH Z:''' I uh, I say you did a great ''jorb'' out there.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I did a great ''WHAT''?

'''COACH Z:''' A great ''jaerb''!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, man. Pom Pom, you've gotta check this out. ''{Pom Pom bounces over}'' Okay, Coach, tell Pom Pom what I did today.

'''COACH Z:''' Err, uh well, I was just telling Homestar here that he done a great joearb.

''{Pom Pom bubbles in laughter}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{laughs}'' Coach, that's ridiculous. We've ''got'' to do something about that.

''{Cut to the chalkboard, where Homestar is wearing a mortar board and holding a pointer. The board has "JOB vs. JAERB" on it. Homestar crosses out Jaerb and circles Job}''

''{cut to Marzipan at the chalkboard. She has 3 pictures of mouths with the letters labeled A, E, and O}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' O. Job. O. Job.

'''COACH Z:''' JEEOOORGHHHBBB!!!!!

''{As Coach Z talks, the word '''JOERGHB!''' slides across the screen in the background.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Coach Z, you need to make your mouth into an O, like this. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

'''COACH Z:''' You mean like this? OOORREEAARRRORRR.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's better.

''{Cut to the cinema, where Coach Z is strapped into a seat while his eyes are forced open very wide with a red outline while Pom Pom supervises. The screen flashes the word "job" over and over, followed by pictures of people with Pom heads.}''

''The Business Man's JOB is to give the Business.'' 
''The Construction Worker's JOB is to smash things.'' 
''The Poopsmith's JOB is obvious.''

''{is on the screen, with pictures}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{Looks to be in pain; his face is red and is sweating}'' JEEEOOORREEAARRB!!!!!!!

''{cut to some sort of alleyway. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat are standing in front of a brick wall with the word JOB stylishly written in graffiti. Strong Bad has a grin on his face}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, Coach, let's give this one more try. Repeat after me. JOB. ''{Because of his accent he pronounces it "jobe".}''

'''COACH Z:''' Jorb.

''{Strong Bad looks at Strong Mad and clears his throat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, uh, this sounds very good. Uh, my only recommendation would be, next time, try to add some more syllables. Perhaps three. Perhaps four.

''{Strong Bad snickers, then bursts out laughing wildly, along with Strong Mad and The Cheat. Coach Z looks down, ashamed and embarrassed, and walks off. Strong Bad and the others continue laughing hysterically.}''

''{Cut to the locker room. Coach Z is sitting on the bench, depressed with his head on one hand.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{dejectedly}'' Oh, jeez. I'm just not cut out to say the word "jaerb." How am I ever gonna face the boys at practice tomorrow?

''{Strong Sad enters.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uhh, Coach Z, uhh, I heard about your problem and I think that I can help. ''{hands him a tape}'' This is a tape I made from when I was practicing the dictionary. Listen to it while you slumber. And tomorrow, you may wake to find that...

'''COACH Z:''' ''{interrupting; excitedly}'' Oh, wow! Thanks a lot, Strong Sad!

''{Coach Z puts the tape in a tape machine. The tape is labeled "Job—285,194 times." He then presses PLAY and goes to sleep on a bench in the locker room.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{on tape}'' Job. Job. Job. Job. Job. Job. Job. Job...

''{Coach Z starts having dreams about Strong Sad jumping over a fence and saying the word "job" over and over.}''

''{The next day, at the athletic field, only Coach Z and Homestar are there. The score board keeps track of how many times Homestar changes directions while running. Coach Z blows his whistle}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{eagerly}'' Well, Coach, how'd I do today?

'''COACH Z:''' Well, I tell ya. You did a great... ''job'', ''{Homestar looks happily surprised}'' Hamstray.

''{Homestar becomes annoyed and sighs. A small plume of black smoke appears over his head. He starts to leave.}''

'''COACH Z:''' No, wait, I mean Hamster! I mean Stramstar. I mean Stairmaster. Homegrown! Ramrod? Humphel?!

THE END

== Easter Eggs ==
*If you wait a short while, you will get to play the "[[Coach Z Talker]]."

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
[[Image:Old homestar jorb.PNG|thumb|150px|Old style Homestar?]]
*This is the first full-length [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] cartoon that uses the [[The Brothers Chaps|Chaps']] current animation style, except for The Cheat, Marzipan, Strong Bad, Bubs, Strong Sad, and Homestar (when he's facing away), who are still drawn in the old style. Only Homestar (when he's facing forward), Coach Z, and Strong Mad seem to be in the current style.
**It is revealed from the [[#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] that this cartoon was updated after it was made. Newer character designs from the front side were added, but the back of Homestar's head was left unchanged.
*At the rate Strong Sad repeats the word ''job'' on the tape, it would take him about 100 hours to say it 285,194 times.
*This is the only time we have seen a sidewalk in [[Free Country, USA]]. This may suggest that it has at least some pavement in it.
*This toon contains one of the first instances of [[Strong Bad smiling]].

===Remarks===
*The old pop-up menu appears on this cartoon (at the bottom). All the buttons still work. Only this toon, [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]], [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[Broken Tandy Menu]], the [[Strong Bad Email#Strong Bad Email Menus|Strong Bad Email Vacation Menu]], and the [[Yearbook Character Page]] seem to still have it.
*In the scene with Homestar at the chalkboard, the older version of Homestar's legs were used. They're supposed to be long and close together, but these are shorter and placed apart.
*Marzipan says to make Coach Z's "mouth" round, even though he has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Coach Z's Face|no visible mouth]].
*Strong Bad's mocking of Coach Z seems out of place, considering that "job" and "jorb" actually both have the same number of syllables, one.

[[Image:cantsayjob2.png|thumb|Sneaky animation — brightness turned up]]

===Goofs===
*All the locks on the lockers look identical, even though the ones on the open lockers should appear to be at a different angle from the ones on the closed lockers.
*In the chalkboard scene, Coach Z is looking toward the camera instead of at the chalkboard.
*When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards.
*Oddly enough, when Strong Sad and Coach Z are in the locker room, the wheels on the cassette tape are spinning, even though it isn't in a tape player.
**This goof can't be seen until Strong Sad hands the tape to Coach Z, because the tape wheels are the same gray color as Strong Sad's body.
*While Strong Bad is laughing, his right arm is disconnected from his body.
*In Coach Z's dream, the "JOB" words flying in the background appear under the fence, but over the small hill that it's on.
*The sound effect of Strong Bad laughing is played too early for the second time, overlapping the first sound.
*Near the end of the scene where Homestar is showing Pom Pom Coach Z's pronouncing of "job", Homestar's head starts to shake.
*In the Coach Z talker, the voices overlap. This is most evident when selecting "jorearb" and then another word.
**Also in the Talker, Coach Z's head doesn't move until the mouse is let go of.
*The music can be stopped by pausing the toon and waiting.

===Inside References===
*Homestar at the chalkboard wearing a teacher's cap refers to [[The King of Town DVD]].
*This is an appearance of [[hypnosis]].

===Real-World References===
*In the scene with Pom Pom in the Movie Theatre, you may notice a silhouette of [[Wikipedia:Tom Servo|Tom Servo]] of [[Wikipedia:Mystery Science Theater 3000|Mystery Science Theater 3000]] fame on the left of Coach Z. The entire scene of having the characters silhouetted against the movie screen is a parody of the style of the show.
*Coach Z strapped into the chair in the theatre is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Stanley Kubrick|Stanley Kubrick]] film [[Imdb:tt0066921|A Clockwork Orange]].
*Coach Z calls Homestar Runner "Stairmaster," a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Stairmaster|Stairmaster]] work-out product.
*"Pack it up, pack it in" is a reference to the old [[Wikipedia:House of Pain|House of Pain]] song [[Wikipedia:Jump Around|"Jump Around."]]
*The smoke cloud appearing above Homestar when Coach Z mispronounces his name is an imitation of [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|Peanuts]].
*Coach Z's stereo is called [[Ghetto Blastro]]. This is a take on [[Wikipedia:Boombox#"Ghettoblaster"|ghetto blaster]], a popular nickname for boomboxes.

===Fast Forward===
*The A and O background noises in Coach Z's "Job Dream" are used again in [[lures & jigs]].
*In [[boring (really)]] Coach Z tells Strong Bad that "jorb" is a four letter word in a list of three-letter words.
*The theater is later seen in the email [[the movies]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
*The Coach Z Talker is removed.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' This cartoon invents Coach Z's speech impediment—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''MATT:'''—basically, doesn't it?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, he had the same voice, but he hadn't really mispronounced words. This cartoon I also feel like, sort of, was the start of the not showing a competition or sporting events-related, uh, cartoon, like Jumping Jack Contest or Marshmallow's Last Stand. It sort of became about the characters.

'''MATT:''' The moments in-between those competitions.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' This is actually a redone version too, 'cause originally it was the fat-body Homestar.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. This is the only cartoon we did this with, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I—

'''MIKE:''' We went back and changed graphics?

'''MATT:''' I did it with Luau but we never updated it, we never put it on the website.

'''MIKE:''' You can tell because the back view of Homestar has the fat, old Homestar backward—the back-view head.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. So there's a couple cartoons that has that in it, uh—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, later?

'''MATT:''' I think the Stinkoman email—there's a back view of Homestar that we hadn't—it's still the fat-body Homestar back view. ''{Pause}'' Homestar's voice doesn't match his appearance here, compared to anything else on the site.

'''MIKE:''' His legs are a little short there, too.

'''MATT:''' Yeah! Look at him! That might be the old, fat-body legs, too.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, 'cause I bet we just updated the head, and not his legs or anything.

'''MATT:''' I remember being very proud of this montage sequence here. I thought it was... genius filmmaking. ''{Mike laughs}'' The old Marzipan mouth, too. Look at the flickering flash on that projector! ''{Pause}'' There's Tom Servo, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' And this was I think the second appearance of the Poopsmith.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's right.

'''MIKE:''' I don't think he was still... at this point he still wasn't considered a main character.

''{Pause, until Strong Bad pronounces "Job" as "Jobe"}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Imitating}'' Jobe.

''{Pause}''

'''MIKE:''' I don't really, uh... we've never gone back to the brick wall location...

'''MATT:''' The graffiti wall?

'''MIKE:''' The graffiti wall.

'''MATT:''' It's a background on the Dancin' Bubs game. Sort of.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah, with the cardboard?

'''MATT:''' Mm hm.

'''MIKE:''' Look at that—he's got a spotlight on him! Where did that shadow come from?

'''MATT:''' The spotlight that's aiming up at him from the ground. ''{Pause until Strong Bad laughs manically}'' Wow, he's really laughing there. ''{Pause again, until Coach Z says "How am I ever gonna face the boys at practice tomorrow?"}'' How's he gonna do it, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' ''{Imitating Strong Sad}'' Oh, I've got some advice for you, Lonely... Swaddler—

'''MATT:''' It's not only... you're not good enough! It's too close; you're not doing a bad enough job on your impression. ''{Doing a Strong Sad impression in a nasally voice that's nothing like him}'' This is a tape I made of a—when I practice the dictionary. Listen to it while you slumber.

'''MIKE:''' That's very good.

'''MATT:''' It's not whiny at all!

''{Pause until Coach Z starts the tape}''

'''MIKE:''' He must have recorded that on low quality to get 285,000... 'cause that would take a long time.

''{Matt laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That's true.

'''MIKE:''' More than sixty minutes, definitely.

'''MATT:''' ''{As Strong Sad is jumping over a fence repeatedly}'' Here goes... There's some weird stuff with the fence, isn't there, when the word "Job" starts to kind of go through the fence... or maybe not. Look at that ball bouncing all by itself! ''{Both laugh}'' Homestar's scoring points somehow.

'''MIKE:''' I think the ball was scoring points by bouncing.

'''MATT:'''''{laughs}'' The ball was actually—

'''MIKE:''' Or it got points by changing direction.

'''MATT:''' The ball was shutting Homestar out four to nothing, in the bouncing contest. ''{Pause until Coach Z says "Hamstray", then Matt sighs exasperatedly:}'' Arggh!

'''MIKE:''' Oh there's the black—I was just wondering where the black, uh, little curly frustration thing—I was gonna use that today. I couldn't remember what we used it in.

'''MATT:''' The Peanuts?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, when—

'''MATT:''' Frustration smoke?

''{Mike laughs}''

== External Links ==
*[[HR:cantsayjob.html|Watch "A Jorb Well Done"]]
*[[HR:cantsayjob2.swf|View the Flash file for "A Jorb Well Done"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|cantsayjob}}

[[Category:Toons|Jorb Well Done, A]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

licensed

SamFisher1022 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:12:03 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Fun Facts */ this is not a reference, just trivial

{{sbenav|190}}

[[Image:Sbemail190.png|thumb|"I'm a public flasher!"]]

Strong Bad discusses what sort of merchandise he has licensed.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]], {{Film|Senor Cardgage}} (Voice only), {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, February 19, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 4:18

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Save the gross stuff up at the back of your throat, and hock it at an unsuspecting email. ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: famous</div>
Ok Strong Bad, you and the Cheat are like famous now, 
but why haven't you licensed anything yet? Like where's the 
strong Bad novels and fluffy pillows, I need more Strong 
Bad in my day, come on man help me out! 
From yours truly 
Pilmple-Faced Bill from receiving
</blockquote>
''{reads "Pilmple-Faced Bill" as written}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! I paid that pilmple-faced bill months ago! You gotta tell grody Blackhead-Flaced Janice from accounting to update her records! ''{clears screen}'' As for being famous and licensing stuff, you've got it all wrong. You don't need to be famous to liscense stuff. Just look at Biscuitdoughhandsman. He licensed his likeness to a paper towel company—

''{Cut to shot of paper towel roll with pictures of Biscuitdoughhandsman and Basil.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —years ago, but no one knows who the crap he is.

'''OLD LADY:''' Get this, Vera, it's exorbitantly absorbent!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up, lady! ''{cut back to Lappy}'' No, the true sign of being famous is in the ''unlicensed'' stuff! And we're all over that! In fact, we've got our own application process for becoming an officially licensed ''unlicensed'' seller of Strong Bad and The Cheat knock-offs.

''{An application form flies onto the screen with the header "So you wanna be an officially licensed unlicensed seller of Strong Bad & The Cheat knock-offs" and entries for "Name", "Number", and "I'll get back to you".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The main requirements are that the country of manufacture has—

''{"Country of manufacture" page comes up with a country-like shape in the middle. Names keep appearing and being crossed out.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —changed name five times since I was in seventh grade, that you sell your wares from a—

''{"Type of Store" page comes up, with a note "(Circle one)".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —blanket, ''{a "Dirty Blanket" appears and watches fill it}'' or inside a trench coat, ''{A "Dirty Trenchcoat" appears and watches fill it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' that you always refer to the selling of our items—

''{"You gotta yell this" page comes up, with a cartoony figure of a man and a table with 4 watches}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —as "numba one bargain!", ''{the phrase appears in a speech bubble}'' and that—

''{"The Two Guys" page comes up with pictures of Strong Bad and The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —one of us has to have a human nose.

''{Noses appear on both. Cut back to the Lappy with a clear screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' One of our ''{he skips typing the word "our"}'' primary unlicensed licensees is shady daycares. You know, the kind that are open 24 hours and are surrounded by barbed wire.

''{Cut to outside view of Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH, where a stylized version of Strong Bad holding a 24 HRS. book, a picture of The Cheat as a mouse with antennae and a honey pot, a human-faced Senor Cardgage saying "I TAKE KIDS", and a cross-eyed monster wearing a "GUFF" T-shirt are drawn. Above the entrance is the word "RESTROOM," which is crossed off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They ''love'' to illegally use trademarked characters to earn desperate parents' trust.

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{singing to the tune of "Frère Jacques"}'' Where is Tompkins? Where is Cole Slaw? Here I am!

''{Cut to a rear view of the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, if I ever have kids, I can't wait to drop 'em off at the puddin' patch every morning on my way to the dog tracks!

''{Cut back to the Lappy with a clear screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Another great knock-off is DVDs. The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing. And they have titles like:

''{Cut to an orange background, each movie appears as Strong Bad mentions it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "The Secret Princess and Her Oppressive Authority Figure 4" and the always popular, "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations". ''{The scene dims}'' Novelty confections have to be my favorite growth sector of the unlicensed merchandise industry,

''{Cut to a box with four "CHEETS".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' like these sugar-crusted marshmallow The Cheats, or this gummi ''{pan up quickly to a Strong Bad shaped blob with a human nose on a stick}'' gel-ular pop, from Strong Badge: The Movie. ''{A logo for said movie appears in the bottom right.}'' And who wouldn't want to rot the teeth ''{The blob disappears, replaced by a "Strong Brush"}'' right out of their kid's head with this spinning Strong Bad sugar toothbrush?

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad, look!

''{Cut to Coach Z and Strong Bad in the computer room. Coach Z is holding a piñata of Strong Bad. Strong Bad turns around to face Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You're twice!

'''STRONG BAD:''' A Strong Bad piñata!? Where'd you get that?

'''COACH Z:''' Bubs.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs!?

''{Cut to close-up of Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, he's the fellow who runs the concession stand—

''{Cut back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know who he is! He's an unlicensed unlicensed seller! I've been trying to shut him down for years. Come on, The Cheat!

''{He jumps off his stool and runs off the screen, The Cheat follows.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Hurried The Cheat noises}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ahhhh, what else?

''{Cut to rear of Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is wearing a trench coat and talking to Pom Pom}''

'''BUBS:''' —and I just got in this shipment of Strong Bad brand ferret ointment. ''{Pulls open his coat, revealing merchandise.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{Bubbles}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There he is, The Cheat!

'''BUBS:''' ''{Quickly closes his coat}'' Uh-oh, store's closed.

''{Bubs points to the right, Pom Pom leaves. Strong Bad runs on from the left with The Cheat. Cut to close-up of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's up with that trench coat, Bubs?

''{Cut back.}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh, uhh... I'm a public flasher!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, right. ''{shakes fist in Bubs' face}'' You ain't got no nudity under there! Open 'er up!

'''BUBS:''' Okay, okay, you got me. ''{Opens his coat again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just as I suspected! Totally legit looking stuff! Where are the human noses? The misspellings? The choking hazards?

'''BUBS:''' That's the kind of stuff I usually sell at the concession stand. ''{closes his coat}'' This is the black market, man!

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, wait a minute. Your shady bootleg operation peddles quality goods, while your legal store front sells dangerous crap?

'''BUBS:''' Exactly. I got a repatation to uphold!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, in that case... Will The Cheat have an adverse reaction to that ferret ointment?

'''BUBS:''' He'll swell up like a balloon.

'''STRONG BAD''' Then give me two cases!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angry The Cheat noise}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy with a clear screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, we finally shut down Bubs' operation. And not just because he was an unlicensed unlicensed seller either. Guess what all those piñatas were stuffed full of.... ''{Not typing}'' Homestar?

''{Cut to computer room, Homestar has many cuts on his face, some still with bits of glass protruding from them.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Singing}'' Broken glass, broken glass, broken glass, broken glass.

''{The [[New Paper]] comes down}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That junk was still my best birthdays ever.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:ShadyDaycares.png|thumb|"Shady Daycares National Park"]]
*During the email, click on the words "shady daycares" to see a [[postcard]] from Shady Daycares National Park.
*After the final bit of dialogue, click on the star on Homestar's shirt to see a scene in the field.
*:''{Homestar is standing, still with his face covered in cuts and glass shards. The Cheat floats across the screen from the left, puffed up like a balloon.}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the same tune as before}'' Ugly bird, ugly bird, ugly bird, ugly bird...

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*One of the many knock-offs is of straight-to-DVD movie releases, in particular the cheap versions of public domain stories that are rushed to the shelves to capitalize on the success of major releases by the likes of Disney.
*A flasher is someone who indecently exposes one's own private areas in public.

===Trivia===
*The changing names of the "country of manufacture" are, in order:
**Gunkistan
**East Paunch
**Republic of Wad
**Double [[G]]
**West Paunch
**Guttenberg
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#return to zork|return to zork]]".
*Some of the merchandise depicts [[Strong Bad smiling]].

===Remarks===
*The [[HR:menuswfs/menu_sbemail190.swf|preview image]] for this toon features the scene of Bubs showing his merchandise to Pom Pom (pictured at the top of this page), but all of the products are missing.
*The Strong Bad [[Store Accessories#Beanie Caps|beanie cap]], which is among the items in Bubs' coat, is actually a licensed piece of Strong Bad merchandise, and is sold in the [[store]].
*Strong Bad says "If I ever have kids..." even though in [[secret identity]], he claims to have kids.
*When Bubs shows Pom Pom his merchandise, the legs of the Strong Bad pinatas are below the bottom of the coat, yet they are not visible when his coat is closed.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad says "[[Shut up, lady]]."
*Strong Bad's mentioning of dog tracks is an example of [[Gambling|gambling]].
*The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to [[helium]].
*Senor Cardgage mentions [[Tompkins]], a character from Teen Girl Squad.
*Homestar's glass-strewn face has [[blood]] coming out of several wounds.
*This email references the fact that Strong Bad has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Strong Bad's Nose|no visible nose]].
*Homestar says he had the "[[Best/Worst X Ever|best birthdays ever]]".
*Strong Bad dressed as a princess is an instance of [[cross-dressing]].

===Real-World References===
*Senor Cardgage sings to the tune of [[Wikipedia:Frère Jacques|Frère Jacques]] and his version is very similar to the [[Wikipedia:Alternative lyrics to Frère Jacques#Where is Thumbkin?|Where is Thumbkin?]] variation.
*The "Cheets" candies are similar both in name and shape to the chick-shaped marshmallow Easter candies called [[Wikipedia:Peeps|Peeps]].
*The picture of The Cheat as a mouse with antennae is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Winnie the Pooh|Winnie the Pooh]], who carried a similar honey pot.
*The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" shows The Cheat as a toucan, whose blue plumage and colored beak bear a strong resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Froot Loops|Froot Loops]] mascot [[Wikipedia:Toucan Sam|Toucan Sam]].
*"The Secret Princess and Her Oppressive Authority Figure 4" resembles [[Wikipedia: Cinderella (1950 film)|Cinderella]].
*The spinning [[sugar]] toothbrush is a parody of Cap Spin Pop candies.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|190|13608}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Disney

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT

SamFisher1022: removed entries per talk; -{{stub}} since this is all the page can be for now

{{tobediscussed}}
[[Image:Jungle Animals.PNG|thumb|Jungle Animals in Decidely Non-Jungle Situations]]
Works produced by '''[[Wikipedia:Walt Disney|Walt Disney]]''' have inspired many animators, including [[The Brothers Chaps]]. The Brothers have also made references to popular [[Wikipedia:Disneyland Park (Anaheim)|Disneyland Park]] and [[Wikipedia:Walt Disney World Resort|Walt Disney World]] rides and attractions.

==Appearances==
*Email [[licensed]] — Strong Bad shows knock-off DVDs that parody ''[[Wikipedia:Cinderella (1950 film)|Cinderella]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:The Lion King|The Lion King]]''.
*Email [[vacation]] — Strong Bad complains that Pantsburg is more boring than [[Wikipedia:Mr. Toad's Wild Ride|Mr. Toad's Wild Ride]], but admits the ride was actually fun.
*Email [[theme park]] — The [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Riverquest Safariventure|Strong Badian Riverquest Safariventure]] is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Jungle Cruise|Jungle Cruise]].

[[Category:Entertainment running gags]]
[[Category:Inside Jokes]]

Talk:Disney

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:43:45 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Notable? */ this was supposed to be funny but is really just confusing

{{tbd}}
== Notable? ==

Maybe it's just because it's such a short article, but I find the notability of this gag pretty questionable. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. The works of Disney are so numerous and expansive that there's bound to be some references to them in any American show. As listed on the page, the references to Disney don't seem at all related, and unless someone can come up with more references to make me think otherwise, I don't think this article should be kept. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 10:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::I vote '''keep'''. Just because Disney references are popular doesn't mean we shouldn't note them; Nintendo ('80s video games in general) references are popular too. If anything, their popularity makes them more notable. Though the references listed here are quite varied, they are each still relevant not because they're direct references to each other, but to Disney works that are equally various. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 11:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::While I would generally say that Disney references would be notable and deserve their own article, I'm not happy with the current one. ''Cinderella'' would for example be a movie that I would accept in a Disney references list. ''Golden Girls'' or ''The Nightmare Before Christmas'' not. Yes, I know that they're Disney by name. But not in spirit. Just because TNBC happened to be financed by Disney doesn't make it a typical Disney movie. It's a Tim Burton movie. Yes, this is a problem. In my opinion, it's meaningless to list a movie such as TNBC here, on the other hand, where do we draw the line? Can we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Suggest scope of page be narrowed to "classic" Disney animations and films, as well as the theme parks, and exclude Touchstone, ABC, and other loosely-associated media. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. This would mean fewer references, but they're more related and wouldn't need as much explanation. EDIT: Wow, there are even fewer than I thought. A lot of the references on the page were not productions by Disney himself (I'm assuming that's where we draw the line for "classic" films). Only the appearances in [[licensed]] would stay in the Films section (though the ''Lion King'' reference actually doesn't belong, I don't think it should be separated from ''Cinderella'' because they occur at the same time), and the two Theme Park attractions would stay. It's shaping up to be a pretty short page, but are we okay with that? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Disney

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:14:49 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Notable? */ i'm looking at the shortened page on Show Preview, and...

{{tbd}}
== Notable? ==

Maybe it's just because it's such a short article, but I find the notability of this gag pretty questionable. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. The works of Disney are so numerous and expansive that there's bound to be some references to them in any American show. As listed on the page, the references to Disney don't seem at all related, and unless someone can come up with more references to make me think otherwise, I don't think this article should be kept. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 10:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::I vote '''keep'''. Just because Disney references are popular doesn't mean we shouldn't note them; Nintendo ('80s video games in general) references are popular too. If anything, their popularity makes them more notable. Though the references listed here are quite varied, they are each still relevant not because they're direct references to each other, but to Disney works that are equally various. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 11:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::While I would generally say that Disney references would be notable and deserve their own article, I'm not happy with the current one. ''Cinderella'' would for example be a movie that I would accept in a Disney references list. ''Golden Girls'' or ''The Nightmare Before Christmas'' not. Yes, I know that they're Disney by name. But not in spirit. Just because TNBC happened to be financed by Disney doesn't make it a typical Disney movie. It's a Tim Burton movie. Yes, this is a problem. In my opinion, it's meaningless to list a movie such as TNBC here, on the other hand, where do we draw the line? Can we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Suggest scope of page be narrowed to "classic" Disney animations and films, as well as the theme parks, and exclude Touchstone, ABC, and other loosely-associated media. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. This would mean fewer references, but they're more related and wouldn't need as much explanation. EDIT: Wow, there are even fewer than I thought. A lot of the references on the page were not productions by Disney himself (I'm assuming that's where we draw the line for "classic" films). Only the [[licensed|unlicensed]] appearances would stay in the Films section (though the ''Lion King'' reference actually doesn't belong, I don't think it should be separated from ''Cinderella'' because they occur at the same time), and the two Theme Park attractions would stay. It's shaping up to be a pretty short page, but are we okay with that? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

A Splode

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:32:05 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Appearances */ nospace

[[Image:YOUR HEAD A SPLODE.png|thumb|250px|A SPLODE IS A LOT]]
The phrase "Your Head A Splode" was first coined by [[Vector Strong Bad]] in the email [[video games]]. Since then, the words "'''A Splode'''" ([[Deliberately Poor English|poor English]] for [[Explosions|"explode"]]) have been seen in and referenced to on other pages.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut''': Email [[video games]]
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]] (Easter egg) — The words "YOUR PHONE A SPLODE!" move across the display while Vector Strong Bad says them.
*[[Main Page 21]] — Vector Strong Bad says "Well, my head a splode"
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] — On the "Sample Game" page, there is a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] saying "A SPLODE IS A LOT". Also, if you lose the trial game, the screen says "YOUR HEAD ASPLODE"; the "head" quickly changes to "ship".
*Email [[alternate universe]] — One of Vector Strong Bad's hobbies is to "splo stuff up". He also hopes that the little children "don't a splode".
[[Category:Word running gags]]

Talk:Disney

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:28:11 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Notable? */ total yes

{{tbd}}
== Notable? ==

Maybe it's just because it's such a short article, but I find the notability of this gag pretty questionable. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. The works of Disney are so numerous and expansive that there's bound to be some references to them in any American show. As listed on the page, the references to Disney don't seem at all related, and unless someone can come up with more references to make me think otherwise, I don't think this article should be kept. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 10:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::I vote '''keep'''. Just because Disney references are popular doesn't mean we shouldn't note them; Nintendo ('80s video games in general) references are popular too. If anything, their popularity makes them more notable. Though the references listed here are quite varied, they are each still relevant not because they're direct references to each other, but to Disney works that are equally various. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 11:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::While I would generally say that Disney references would be notable and deserve their own article, I'm not happy with the current one. ''Cinderella'' would for example be a movie that I would accept in a Disney references list. ''Golden Girls'' or ''The Nightmare Before Christmas'' not. Yes, I know that they're Disney by name. But not in spirit. Just because TNBC happened to be financed by Disney doesn't make it a typical Disney movie. It's a Tim Burton movie. Yes, this is a problem. In my opinion, it's meaningless to list a movie such as TNBC here, on the other hand, where do we draw the line? Can we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Suggest scope of page be narrowed to "classic" Disney animations and films, as well as the theme parks, and exclude Touchstone, ABC, and other loosely-associated media. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. This would mean fewer references, but they're more related and wouldn't need as much explanation. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Disney

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:50:05 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Notable? */ keep

Disney

SamFisher1022 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:43:30 GMT

SamFisher1022: more better word

{{tobediscussed}}
[[Image:KingofTown MayorHalloween.PNG|thumb|The King of Halloweentown]]
The classic works of '''[[Wikipedia:The Walt Disney Company|Disney]]''' inspired many animators, including [[The Brothers Chaps]].
==Movies==
*[[Homestarloween Party]] — [[The Poopsmith]] dresses as the title character of ''[[Wikipedia:Tron (film)|Tron]]''.
*Email [[invisibility]] — The [[Tandy 400]] quotes ''Tron''.
*[[New Boots]] — [[Coach Z]] performs "the [[Wikipedia:Who Framed Roger Rabbit|Roger Rabbit]]".
*[[Halloween Fairstival]] — [[The King of Town]] dresses as the Mayor of Halloweentown from ''[[Wikipedia:The Nightmare Before Christmas|The Nightmare Before Christmas]]''.
*Email [[licensed]] — Strong Bad shows knock-off DVDs that parody ''[[Wikipedia:Cinderella (1950 film)|Cinderella]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:The Lion King|The Lion King]]''.

==TV Shows==
*Email [[helium]] — Strong Bad compares his changed voice to one of [[Wikipedia:The Golden Girls|The Golden Girls]].
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — Homestar mistakes Strong Bad for "Blanche from ''The Golden Girls''".
*[[Ever and More!]] (Easter Egg) — Homestar sings the ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]'' theme song.

==Theme Parks==
*Email [[vacation]] — Strong Bad complains that Pantsburg is more boring than [[Wikipedia:Mr. Toad's Wild Ride|Mr. Toad's Wild Ride]], but admits the ride was actually fun.
*Email [[theme park]] — The [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Riverquest Safariventure|Strong Badian Riverquest Safariventure]] is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Jungle Cruise|Jungle Cruise]].

{{stub}}
[[Category:Entertainment running gags]]
[[Category:Inside Jokes]]

HRWiki talk:What HRWiki is not

SamFisher1022 — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:40:33 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* We're a fansite? */ reply to DC

== Purpose ==

This is a rough draft for a proposed "What HRWiki is not" policy page. (See [[HRWiki:Da Basement#What HRWiki is not|Da Basement]] for background.) The idea is to make one page that covers all the rules, regulations, policies, guidelines, etc., that encompass everything that does not belong on HRWiki pages. As this is a rough draft, I doubt it is comprehensive or complete enough to be accepted yet, and therefore any editing or discussion of the page is welcome. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Name ==

I think "HRW:NOT" should just be its shortcut and not its full name. I think something more verbose like "HRWiki:What this wiki is not" would be more appropriate. Though I'm sure better suggestions can be put forward. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Of course I don't plan to make "HRW:NOT" the official name. That'd be pretty silly. I, and probably the officials I proposed this to, intend the page to be titled "What HRWiki is not", similar to the [[Wikipedia:WP:NOT|Wikipedia page]] I got the idea from. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Soapbox ==

I'm concerned about [[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT#HRWiki is not a soapbox]]. I feel it to be a bit unnecessary (à la [[Wikipedia:WP:BEANS|WP:BEANS]]) and a bit too legalistic (so ''no'' political chit chat is allowed?). We've been lenient with non-disruptive chatter on userpages, and this is pretty much covered by the user and talk page etiquette pages. I'm also trying to make sure this page doesn't sound overly legalistic which is a bit of a concern of mine at this moment. (Especially since I can see it being used in edit summaries, even.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::The reason I requested this page was so that the main points of other policy pages, in terms of what not to do, could be collected in one place. I did draw most of the ideas from Wikipedia's page, and the soapbox thing was one of them. But now that you mention it, we don't have many soapbox-like situations (or at least not off-topic ones), and the Beans comment is a good point. That section could go. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:This is really more a Wikipedia thing, where people use both their userpages and articles to push POVs. While it is must certainly true of HRWiki as well, I don't think it's that relevant because our community is so markedly different from Wikipedia's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

== We're a fansite? ==

No joke, this came as a shock to me. When I think "fansite", I picture a forum-like website where users can freely upload content and talk about stuff. While I understand that "fansite" literally means "a site made for or run by fans", and we more than fit that definition, fan fiction and fan art are key features I imagine, and neither of those are encouraged here. So I thought we avoided calling ourselves a fansite, as it's not our main purpose. The "HRWiki is not a fansite" section has been {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASamFisher1022%2FHRW%3ANOT&diff=544353&oldid=544334 renamed}} "a fan ''fiction'' site", and while this is true, I think it's too specific and too obvious. The only kind of fansite I think we could be mistaken for is one intended for uploading of art and such, and that's what should be kept under control. The old name should stay, since it keeps the general idea and allows for both art and fiction (and anything else) issues to be addressed. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:Like you said: ''"'fansite' literally means 'a site made for or run by fans'"'', and fan ''fiction'' is what you considered and imagined all fansites to be. Like you also said, the kind of fansite we don't want to be mistaken for ''"is one intended for uploading of art and such"''. That describes the fan fiction site. As you can see the distinction may not be entirely obvious, and it would be careless to use any definition other than the correct definition. The previous title would, in fact, ''promote'' said confusion, and we want to be clear in what issues we are addressing. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::Um, that's not what I said. Two kinds of sites: art and fiction. A "fansite" as I imagined has both. It's obvious we're not for fan fiction, and art does not relate to that (there is clear distinction, so we could still be mistaken as a site for art). The "and such" does not describe the fiction, it describes other kinds of art like [photos of] sculptures, dioramas, etc. Plain "fansite" is the correct definition because it lets us address all kinds of things. We can be clear on the different "kinds of things" in the text under the heading. That's what it's there for. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I see what you're trying to say, but you're limiting too much the definition of art. Should we remove [[Weekly Fanstuff]]? And what about the rest of the wiki? It documents a work of art called [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]]. To say we prohibit art is too broad. However saying we limit fan art would be more appropriate, but that's already covered in the image policy section of this page and most fan art is also more often than not, considered a subset of fan stuff. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::::No, no, no. That's still not what I said. Weekly Fanstuff is part of Homestar Runner. Nobody argues that. What ''I'' said is people should not use the wiki to upload their ''own'' fanstuff. It's allowed within the Image policies, but still discouraged as it's more appropriate at the Fanstuff Wiki. That's all I intend to say about fan art. I don't see fan art rules covered anywhere else on the page, and if they are really a subset of fan stuff, then what better place is there to note it than "not a fansite"? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Whatever connotations the word ''[[Wikipedia:fansite|fansite]]'' has for you personally, we still ''are'' one, so we really shouldn't say that we're not. How about we say that we're "not a place for your fanstuff"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Something like that sounds good. We should also be sure we explain what we mean by "fanstuff" in the text under the header. W can note that it includes fan fiction, fan art and anything else I may be forgetting. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The description in the first sentence defines it as "Homestar Runner-related creative work". Does it need to be more specific than that? Often when something gets too specific, people start looking for loopholes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::(Sorry, but is that sarcasm? You're asking if it should be more specific, then telling why it shouldn't be.) I like the way it is now because I don't see a way a user could get his work published ''here'' without TBC first publishing it ''[[HR:|there]]''. If there really are loopholes to that, we should make sure the page addresses them, but at the same time I don't think we should be too extreme about it, a la [[Wikipedia:WP:BEANS|WP:BEANS]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

HRWiki:What HRWiki is not

SamFisher1022 — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:36:11 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* HRWiki is not a place for your fanstuff */ removed parentheses, better wording

The Homestar Runner Wiki (HRWiki) is a collaborative encyclopedia designed to [[HRWiki:Introduction|chronicle]] and [[HRWiki:About|document]] the growth of the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. There are certain things it should '''not''' be mistaken for:

== HRWiki is not Wikipedia ==

While the Homestar Runner Wiki uses the same software as Wikipedia and has much in common, it is not part of Wikipedia, nor is it in any way affiliated with Wikipedia's parent organization, the [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]]. Thus, many practices and policies at the Homestar Runner Wiki are different from those at Wikipedia.

Miscellaneous information or long explanations are generally discouraged on HRWiki. Information on an HRWiki page cannot stray from that page's subject, and pages not related to Homestar Runner and its related media are not to be created. If a term or concept may need to be explained, it is best only to link to a Wikipedia page regarding that item; the information is not to be written on the page itself or added as a new page.

== HRWiki is not a web host ==

The Homestar Runner Wiki is not for hosting media, blogs, or links. However, users are allowed to link to websites within the guidelines of the [[HRWiki:User space|HRWiki User space]] policy, and upload images within the [[HRWiki:Image use policy|Image use]] and [[HRWiki:Personal Images|Personal image]] policies.

== HRWiki is not a social network ==

Users of the Homestar Runner Wiki can maintain user spaces and are free to interact with other users. While making friends is certainly allowed and encouraged, it must be kept in mind that this is not the main focus of the community. HRWiki is intended to document Homestar Runner topics and information, and users that do not contribute to the project are not appreciated.

== HRWiki is not a place for your fanstuff ==

The Homestar Runner Wiki is a knowledge base; it is not a place to publish Homestar Runner-related creative work, except material published on the official site, like the [[Weekly Fanstuff]]. Fan fiction and other written work, though allowed [[HRWiki:User space|to some degree]] on user pages, are discouraged on this wiki. Uploading of artwork or photos of Homestar Runner art is allowed within the limits of the [[HRWiki:Personal images|personal image policy]]. Fanstuff is welcomed at our sister wiki, the [[HRFWiki:|Homestar Runner Fanstuff Wiki]].

== HRWiki is not a forum ==

The purpose of HRWiki talk pages is to allow discussion of the ''content'' of the pages they accompany. Talk pages are ''not'' for chit-chatting even if it does relate to Homestar Runner. (See [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#Main namespace talk|talk page guidelines]].) Instead, the Homestar Runner Wiki hosts a {{pl|l=http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum}} for non-encyclopedic discussion and an [[HRWiki:IRC|IRC channel]] for casual chat.

== HRWiki is not a soapbox ==

The Homestar Runner Wiki is not a place to publicly express opinions on current events or politics. Any speeches must relate directly to Homestar Runner or the Homestar Runner Wiki.

== See also ==
*[[HRWiki:FAQ]] for a list of frequently asked questions. You may pose a question yourself in its [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|talk page]].
*[[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette]] for information on proper use of HRWiki's talk pages.
*[[HRWiki:User space]] for information on how to adequately use your user space.
*[[HRWiki:Help]] for a list of general help topics.

User talk:SamFisher1022

SamFisher1022 — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:30:11 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Careless reverting */ better reply; i was in a bad mood that night

{{User:SamFisher1022/navigation}}
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==Let us give TANKS!==
Thanks for the tip of the hat for helping you finish the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes filmographies. Happy to help. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:No prob, Bob. Believe it or not, I actually forgot to add <nowiki>{{film}}</nowiki> to [[crazy cartoon]]. Thanks for that! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== More solved quotes ==

The "Food ''eats'' people!" quote is from the Avatar episode, "The Storm". The "Who's brave enough to look into this bag??" one is from "The Waterbending Scroll". The "three sprots" (had to have a reference) is from a GTA radio station. {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 18:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:And once again, you nailed them all. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

== Yay! ==
You won Person of the Day! {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
:Yay, I'm a person! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

== Java ==

Heylo, I just noticed [[User:SamFisher1022/Java]]. It's cool that you're learning Java, but this page has got nothing to do with our wiki. See our [[HRWiki:User_space#What_about_user_subpages.3F|subpage policy]]. Please mark it with "{{t|delete}}" after you've saved the contents. Thanks for understanding.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:Aw, come on... where else can I get help with this stuff? It's better to ask someone than scour the textbook... — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 22:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
::Aw two, Loafing beet me to posting this... - King of wikis needing to log in.

==story==
hello sam fisher, i am currently writing a story and will like it if i can use your name for an ending sentance, and maybe a small cameo during the climax. if you agree or disagree, please tell me. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 01:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:Sure thing. What kind of story are we talking? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
hasn't been announced, but your only parts are sniping trolls and the irc channel thing. if you look at my page, you might have an idea of what it is about. i am going to write it soon today. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 22:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

==Uploading images==
I gave it a try this morning and it let me upload! I think it's been 38 (?) hours. So maybe it's a 36-hour wait instead of a 48-hour wait. In case it interests you. :) {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 14:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's great! [[User talk:SamFisher1022/Archive 1#Mah furs question, dawg.|When I was asked that before]], I had no clue until another user chimed in and said 48 hours. It's odd that nobody seems to know the real answer... I'll take it up with an admin and make sure it gets put on a Help page. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== HRWiki:NOT ==

Hi Sam. If you don't mind, I added [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASamFisher1022%2FHRW%3ANOT&diff=515378&oldid=513006 another section] to your subpage. I've seen a good deal of users who only come to greet other people and make useless chit-chats. This is also one of the reasons guestbooks got banned. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's the same observation I made several times, then I finally [[HRWiki:Da Basement#What HRWiki is not|suggested]] a new policy on it. I don't mind you editing the page, in fact that's what I want; it's intended to be a sort of rough draft for the proposed policy, and though I don't think I'm the best man for the job, I got it started. Thanks for helping out with stuff I missed! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:07, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Quote Game ==
Is your quote game thing still active? I know the current quote number 2 is from (appropriately enough) Splinter Cell.-[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 17:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:Yep, it's active, and you got it on the, well, outside rim of the spot. See if you can name the exact game and who said it. ;) — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, it's Grimsdottir in Chaos Theory :P [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Careless reverting ==

SamFisher1022: {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Idon%27twannabeinlove&diff=544389&oldid=544388 This}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Idon%27twannabeinlove&diff=544392&oldid=544389 is}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Idon%27twannabeinlove&diff=544393&oldid=544392 ridiculous}}. (I am also leaving the same message to DeFender1031 and Sam the Man.) As established editors I believe you handled poorly the welcoming of this user. Instead of providing a more welcoming and inviting message, you have a quick edit war of sorts in someone else's user talk page. Imagine how a new user would feel seeing this kind of mysterious edit summary arguments going on. This sort of behavior could easily turn away prospective editors (good or not so much). I think in general we've established a bad habit of quick reverts with a simple edit summary and no explanation. Friendly but informative notices to less established users should be the norm, not the exception. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hey, I was going to welcome that user myself if I wasn't busy with other stuff. By the time I was ready you already welcomed him, so I just let it go. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::You kind of missed the point: more care needs to be taken when handling situations like these (and all edits in general). If, as you said, you're rushed and don't have the time to do a proper welcome then just let it go and have someone else take care of it. It's better to let things be than make matters worse by not completing a task properly. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Look, I'm sorry about what I did. I was busy with the "HRW:NOT" issues, and didn't have the patience to actually read what was removed before I put it back. I know it was a careless mistake, but you didn't have to come over here to humiliate me over it. And the fact that you did this to two other guys too only makes it look like you're trying to boss us around. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hammerspace

SamFisher1022 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:16:25 GMT

SamFisher1022: cleanup; explainable or stretched occurrences removed

[[Image:The Cheat hammerspace.PNG|thumb|[[Firebert]] emerging from Hammerspace]]
Residents of the [[Homestar Runner universe]] often reach into '''[[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|Hammerspace]]''' to access regularly unavailable items. Hammerspace is an imagined "storage realm" that allows cartoon characters to have access to practically any item they wish without impeding the plot or ruining comedic timing. As in most other animated works of fiction, the other characters usually make no mention of and seemingly do not respond to the appearance of the new items.
It can be said that [[The Paper]] almost always emerges from Hammerspace, due to the lack of a visible printer, although the email [[the paper]] shows a printer falling too.

==[[Main Pages]]==
*[[Main page 1]] — [[Homestar Runner]]'s space helmet appears and disappears into Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 2]] — The Christmas ornaments appear and disappear into Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 3]] — Homestar's sun glasses appears and disappears into Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 4]] — A bowling ball falls from Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 14]] — Homestar's towel reappears from Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 16]] — [[Decemberween]] ornaments appear and disappear into Hammerspace. Also, snow falls onto Homestar from Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 17]] — Blue hair appears onto [[1-Up]]'s head from Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 19]] — All the prizes appear from Hammerspace.
*[[Main page 20]] — [[The Prince of Town]], [[Señor]], and a radio appears and disappears into Hammerspace.

==[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]==
*Email [[homsar]] — The [[Heavy Lourde]] falls from the sky.
*Email [[morning routine]] — The brown [[egg]] appears out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[the show]] — The Poopsmith pulls out a sign from Hammerspace.
*Email [[personal favorites]] — In the very old email, Homestar appears out of Hammerspace.
*Eamil [[mascot]] — The Cheat pulls the sign out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[funny]] — A bottle of ketchup falls from Hammerspace.
*Email [[suntan]] — Strong Bad pulls a permanent marker out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[anything]] — Homestar pulls a bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[the process]] — The Cheat pulls matches and a beehive from Hammerspace. Also, Strong Bad pulls a "discount brick" out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[no loafing]] — The chart appears from Hammerspace.
*Email [[army]] — The Cheat comes out from Hammerspace behind [[The Stick]].
*Email [[video games]] — Strong Bad pulls a [[Cold One]] out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[stupid stuff]] — Strong Bad reaches into Hammerspace to produce a lab coat, glasses, and test tube.
*Email [[stunt double]] — A Heavy Lourde falls on Strong Sad from Hammerspace. In an Easter egg, Strong Bad pulls the floppy disks from Hammerspace.
*Email [[flashback]] — The book "The Homestar Runner gets something stuck in his craw" and Senor Cardgage's sign come out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[lunch special]] — The phone that Strong Bad uses comes out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[replacement]] — Strong Bad pulls last name cards out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[dangeresque 3]] — Strong Bad pulls the nunchuck gun and Reesy Cup milkshake out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[crying]] — Strong Bad pulls the Tenderfoot picture out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[for kids]] — [[Homsar]] appears and disappears into Hammerspace.
*Email [[other days]] — Strong bad pulls his [[BMW lighter]] from Hammerspace. In an Easter egg, Strong Sad procures Strong Bad's swim trunks from Hammerspace.
*Email [[extra plug]] — Homestar pulls the "popcorn" out of Hammerspace.
*[[Broken Compy Menu]] — [[Bubs]] walks up stairs from the Hammerspace below his Concession Stand.
*Email [[origins]] — Strong Bad pulls his drill out of Hammerspace when he was at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]].
*Email [[secret recipes]] — Strong Bad pulls the deodorant out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[long pants]] — Homestar appear and disappears into Hammerspace.
*Email [[rampage]] — Homestar pulls a mallet from Hammerspace.
*Email [[boring (really)]] — The explosions on Strong Sad's entrance come out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[record book]] — Coach Z pulls gum out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[lady...ing]] — Strong Bad pulls an anvil, a gas can and a cigar out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[geddup noise]] — Bubs once again exits to the Hammerspace under his Concession Stand, this time by elevator.
*Email [[portrait]] — Lord Quackingstick appears out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[cliffhangers]] — When on the [[cliff]], Strong Bad pulls out the knife from Hammerspace, along with snack bags for Homsar and [[The King of Town]].
*Email [[retirement]] — A boater hat falls onto Strong Bad's head and a cane falls into his hand from Hammerspace.
*Email [[technology]] — Strong Bad pulls floppy disks out of and drops them into Hammerspace. Also, Pom Pom pulls a water bottle and sunglasses from Hammerspace.
*Email [[alternate universe]] — In an Easter egg, Homestar appears by Hammerspace.
*Email [[senior prom]] — Strong Bad's [[pants]] poof away into Hammerspace.
*Email [[redesign]] — The sea shells appear from Hammerspace.
*Email [[keep cool]] — Strong Bad pulls Monkey D's Summer Tips from Hammerspace.
*Email [[4 branches]] — Homestar's "bad boyfriend" outfit suddenly appears from Hammerspace.
*Email [[looking old]] — [[Strong Bad]]'s easel slides fly in and out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Sad draws the bowl of Kashi from Hammerspace.
*Email [[The movies]] — Strong Bad pulls his bazooka out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[rough copy]] — Strong Bad draws the soft tacos for The Cheat out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[the paper]] — Strong Bad's printer seems to fall out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[slumber party]] — Strong Bad pulls an axe out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — Strong Bad pulls maps out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[diorama]] — The items in the dioramas all appear from Hammerspace.
*Email [[nightlife]] — Strong Mad pulls The Spicy Crispy Chicken Melt out of Hammerspace.
*Email [[winter pool]] — Bubs descends into Hammerspace again by elevator.
*Email [[pet show]] — A banner and confetti comes down from Hammerspace. Strong Sad also makes a hairbrush disappear into Hammerspace and pulls a mirror out of Hammerspace.

==[[Toons]]==
*[[The Reddest Radish]] — [[Marzipan]] gets the reddest radish from Hammerspace.
*[[A Jumping Jack Contest]] — The Cheat pulls a Homestar Runner mask from Hammerspace.
*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] — [[The Poopsmith]] pulls out a [[The Poopsmith's Signs|sign]] out of nowhere, à la [[Wikipedia:Wile E. Coyote|Wile E. Coyote]].
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] — Homestar pulls various objects out of Hammerspace.
*[[Some Stupid Turkey]] — Several characters come from Hammerspace behind [[Strong Bad]]. An axe comes from the top of the screen to decapitate Strong Bad's turkey costume. Bread appears in the beak of the turkey after its decapitation.
*[[Where's The Cheat?]] — Homestar's toothpicks appear out of Hammerspace.
*[[Under Construction]] — Stinkoman pulls a spoon out of Hammerspace.
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] — Strong Mad pulls a "cake" ([[Jack Hamma!]] with frosting) out of Hammerspace.
*[[Halloween Fairstival]] — Homestar pulls out two containers of [[Witch's Brew]] from Hammerspace. Also, in an Easter Egg, Homsar falls into frame from Hammerspace.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — Coach Z pulls a [[Disconnected Telephone]] out of Hammerspace.
*[[No Hands On Deck!]] — Homestar comes out from behind the stick, and later from under [[Strong Sad]]'s blankets.
*[[Ever and More!]] — Bubs pulls "minutes", [[BUBRUB!]], and even a [[Wetski|Jetski]] from under the table.
*[[Jibblies 2]] — The Poopsmith takes out a sign reading "[[Jibblies|Jibblie Jibblie]]" from Hammerspace. Also, Pom Pom pulls out the [[Golbol]] from Hammerspace.
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] — Pom Pom pulls a [[gun]] out of Hammerspace.
*[[20X6 vs. 1936]] — [[The Homestar Runner]] pulls out a [[washboard]] and a straw out of Hammerspace.
*[[Cheat Commandos...O's]] — A [[Blue Laser Minion]] pulls a tray of burgers from Hammerspace.
*[[Let us give TANKS!]] — [[Ripberger]] produces a bowl of ambrosia salad from Hammerspace.
*[[Happy Hallow-day]] — [[The Cheat]] pulls his keyboard to summon [[The Goblin]] out of Hammerspace. Seconds later, The Goblin appears out of Hammerspace. Also, Homestar Runner seemingly pulls his '[[Color Flavored|orange-and-black flavored]] loose tooth remover candies' and his 'spooky yucky chew toy' out of Hammerspace.
*[[The King of Town DVD]] — A blackboard falls onto the wall, and a graduate cap and pointer fall into Homestar's head and [[Lack of visible arms|"hand"]].
*[[Summer Short Shorts]] — Homestar makes a flower come out of a shoe.
*[[Sbemail 150?!?]] — Strong Sad pulls a story board out of Hammerspace.
*[[The Interview]] — Homestar pulls a shopping list and a note book and pen out of Hammerspace. Also, duct tape and a spear appear out of Hammerspace.
*[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] — The ribbons appears from Hammerspace.
*[[Senorial Day]] — Bubs pulls various items and costumes out of Hammerspace.
*[[Sickly Sam's Big Outing]] — Fort Wayne locomotive pulls a Sheboygan Booteaters flag out of Hammerspace.

[[Category:Object running gags]]

Talk:Hammerspace

SamFisher1022 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:54:10 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Clean up */ should the Main Page ones count?

== Category ==
I'm not entirely sure here, but I think that [[:Category:Activity running gags]] might be more appropriate than [[:Category:Object running gags]], only because the gag doesn't always involve objects (like in the image). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:I put it in Objects coz hammerspace ''itself'' is an object. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, I see. I guess I thought of it more as a place (like another dimension or an alternate universe) than an object... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, I agree with Trey on this one.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

::::I wasn't sure myself what category to put it in. Although I did at one point thought to put it in the Places category ;) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Place or no, it's still more of an object than it is an activity. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

== Stub? ==
I don't think this counts a stub. It's not a large article, it is rather short, but by my book, it's not a stub if you have to scroll down to see the bottom.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 17:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
'''stub''' ''(n.)'': A notice that an article needs to be expanded. Also, an incomplete article. Note that a stub is not necessarily short, and a short article is not necessarily a stub.</blockquote>

That's the definition of a stub from the [[HRWiki:Glossary|Glossary]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:the article is fine. It's the list of appearances that may or may not be complete. I changed it to incomplete list instead. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::How should it be expanded, though? I'm honestly not sure.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 17:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:::I think there might be other appearances of it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::::If you see any other appearances of Hammerspace in other toons, you can post it on the page. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, I'm aware of that. what does it have to do with this conversation? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

==<s>Two</s> Three separate lists?==
There's two kinds of hammerspace. One kind where things emerge from behind people/objects, and the other where they come from offscreen. Is it worth separating these into two lists? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:Not in my opinion, though it may be worth mentioning in the article.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 17:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::And ones where they pop to existence (like [[The Goblin]]). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:::True. Three then. The question still remains though, separate lists, or not? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Where the Crap? ==

I removed the Twinkie from [[Where the Crap Are We?]]. It's clearly not hammerspace. The Twinkie was just off-camera. Homestar even looks at it before frabbing it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:A lot of things on this page are from offscreen, it's a type of hammerspace. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yes, but not everything that's from offscreen is from hammerspace. We need to distinguish between something that's most likely supposed to be from hammerspace and what appears to be normal.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:::if they can pull something from offscreen, but can't figure out that they can go offscreen, i'd say that's a good indication of hammerspace. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:29, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Plus, if there really was a Twinkie right there, Srong Bad probably would of noticed it and not of said that there weren't enough Twinkies. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::True. Although you'll see that the left "wall" is slightly offscreen, suggesting that there might be enough actual physical space for a twinkie on the right hand side. I'm beginning to slowly accept that it was supposed to be from hammerspace, though. I'll take a short break from this discussion so I don't feel compelled to argue about it for now ;-) And Homestar-winner: Strong Bad does not always see everything. Especially if there's a Homestar in front of it ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

==hammer or Hammer?==
Can you believe this article was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hammerspace deleted] on Wikipedia? I guess it was determined to be a "fanmade" term, and therefore did not belong as its own article. The link now redirects to [[Wikipedia:Magic satchel|Magic satchel]], where it is (mostly) used as a common noun (i.e. it is not capitalized). So, that begs the question: should we use '''Hammerspace''' or '''hammerspace'''? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:I created this page under the idea that at the time was pervasive on the 'kipedia page that Hammerspace was a location like England that could be accessed through ill-defined means. But the main reason I went back and capitalized all of Hom*R's revisions is that a capital H just makes the page look better. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::So wikipedia is dumb. I don't think that has a bearing to us. it's Hammerspace. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

== dissagree... ==

Some of the things on the page may not be truly from hammerspace. An example is that in cliffhangers Strong Bad could have had the snacks and the knife with him and just grabbed them when needed. Kirbychu HR'D 02:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:One problem. Unless he had the bags... taped to his head, or something, which sounds unlikely, (since we didn't see any tape on the bags), he wouldn't have enough space behind his back/in his back pockets to carry them. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== You guys missed something! ===
The stuff that came out of the bucket hand was oatmeal! I fixed that!- [[User:LordJ]]

== Main Pages ==

I'd argue that the Main Page instances are not "hammerspace". Yes, things appear and disappear, but only after the viewer initiates a mouseover. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:In fact, other items are in my opinion inappropriately listed. When Strong Bad talks about a something and it appears on screen, that's not Hammerspace, that's imitating a camera trick. Same with the Ladies' Choice Award logo - when do logos for TV presentations ''ever'' actually physically exist and are carried out? Or, in disconnected, where the parts of Head Bad and Strong Body are added in one by one - this is again, IMO, not Hammerspace. I simply lack the time to go through and a-delete all of these, but I would like to build some consensus here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

==Clean up==
So someone proof read it that it {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}}04:47, 2008 February 3
:Just a note, I don't believe that things that happen PBtC, things that come from someone's imagination, instances like [[trading cards]] where a piece of paper that is referenced appears on paper should exist on this page. They simply are not the same running gag. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:: I know some things could passible be the imagination and I thought hard about those ones I said no to allot of them and said yes to the ones i thought where notable. I think it is good how it is except my amazing skills and grammar and spelling {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 17:48, 2008 Feb 3
:::What standard are you using to say an instance is "notable" versus chocked up to imagination? — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::: I used 1. dose it appear at a wired place 2. is it important 3. What was the set up for the seen.(what happened before, what was said, where are we going) 4. Is it part of the story. 5. is it magic or a ghost {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}}
I'm curious as to whether the Main Page occurrences should count. They're just effects that happen when a button is rolled over, and they're not real toons. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

==So let us talk==
What ones do you those dose not fit {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 18:01 2008 Feb 3
:Just in Sbemails:
*Imagination: [[halloweener]], [[action figure]], [[new hands]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[2 years]], [[kind of cool]], [[monument]], [[theme park]], [[the facts]], [[montage]], [[animal]], [[dreamail]], [[disconnected]], [[candy product]], [[from work]], [[slumber party]] (just the milk etc), [[diorama]],
*Paper: [[little questions]], [[english paper]], [[autobiography]], [[pom pom]], [[trading cards]], [[coloring]]
— [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 18:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

* I will say lets up discuss with more people because i like them all and i think they all fit. To be discussed: [[action figure]] but i think The drinks that pour into the Strong Bad action figure body also appear from Hammerspace is good. [[crazy cartoon]] [[the facts]] [[japanese cartoon]] [[monument]] [[candy product]]. I say keep them all. {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}}

== Storage Realm or Every time ==

According to everything I've ever seen about Hammerspace, it's always described as a Storage Realm. It seems that a lot (maybe even most) of these appearances are just things popping into existence as opposed to being "accessed" by a cartoon character. I'll bring this here as opposed to an Edit War, what do you guys think: is something like the Main Pages where things just appear an actual example of Hammerspace? —[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 22:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

==Delete==

It's way too common to have its own page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:The inclusion guideline actually sets [[fire]] as an example of the kinds of pages we '''should''' have based mainly on their commonness. Moreover, I believe most of these that are listed are simply not Hammerspace, as per the talk directly above this. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:What HRWiki is not

SamFisher1022 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:27:34 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* We're a fansite? */ you're thinking too much; i'm not *trying* to say anything, i just say what i mean

User talk:SamFisher1022

SamFisher1022 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:11:56 GMT

SamFisher1022: /* Careless reverting */ don't blame us

Where's an Egg?

SamFisher1022 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:23:41 GMT

SamFisher1022: undid revision 544397; see talk, it might not be Cumberdale, but it definitely isn't Kid Speedy

{{vgamenav|wheresanegg|50k Racewalker|Duck Guardian One}}

[[Image:wheresanegg.PNG|thumb|A renegade cop with nothing to lose and an egg on his mind.]]
[[Image:Where'sAnEggboxart.png‎|thumb|Where's an Egg? box art. Где – Яйцо?]]
''"In this hard-bolied  adventure game, you must help the Boise police force find a missing egg. Not in Mancuso's garage? Try Brodermaker's gymbag. Everyone's a suspect when 'Where's an Egg?' is the game that you are playing. And that's this game!!"'' -[[Videlectrix]]

'''Where's an Egg?''' is a game by [[Videlectrix]].

'''Date:''' Monday, July 16, 2007

'''Page Title:''' Where's an Egg?

==Instructions==
The object of the game is to find an egg that one of the suspects is hiding. The task is a variation on the [[Wikipedia:Knights and Knaves|Knights and Knaves]] puzzle, in which suspects either always lie or always tell the truth. After you think you know who or where an egg is, you go to that location and shoot the suspect, who will give up an egg if you have guessed correctly.

After clicking on the title screen, you are presented with several locations in a city. Clicking on the thumbnails will take you to those locations, at which you will encounter a suspect with an item. From the menu at the bottom of the screen, you can choose one of any of the items or suspects you've encountered. When you choose an item, the suspect will tell you the location where that item can be found or the suspect who has it. When you choose a suspect from your menu, the character on the screen will tell you where that suspect can be found or what item they have. Once again, they may or may not be telling the truth.

There are three other notable replies you may receive. If you ask a suspect about himself or about the items he carries, he will respond with a [[Wikipedia:smiley|smiley face]]. If you ask a suspect about anything after shooting him, he will respond with a red cross. Also, if you ask a suspect about an egg and he replies with a question mark, he does not have any information about the location of an egg.

== Strategy ==
Since a given suspect either always lies or always tells the truth, their reply about the location of an egg can be tested by asking them questions to which you know the answer. For example, if they give you information about an egg, you can ask them about an item and verify that the location or suspect with which they reply indeed corresponds to that item. If the answer they give is correct, then the location of an egg that they give is correct as well.

The above method can be modified by first asking about the first person or item you have seen, then if the suspect answers correctly, ask about an egg. Continue asking all the suspects the same question until you find a person who gives a correct answer and knows about an egg. If none are found, revisit your first person and ask about an egg. Then simply find the culprit and shoot them.

In some cases, a lying suspect may reveal themselves as such by giving the same answer for two different questions (e.g., suggesting that two different characters have a potted plant) or, due to a programming error, even answering with their own face when questioned about a different item.

Another strategy is to ask every suspect the location of an egg until you have two replies that agree. In that case, it is likely, though not certain, that the suspect they incriminate indeed has an egg.

In order to keep accurate track of which person matches which object, just quickly visit all of the locations before asking anyone a question. This will cause each person and their object to appear in the same order at the bottom of the screen. Once you have visited all locations, start asking each person where an egg is. Once you find someone who replies, figure out if they are a truth-teller or a liar by seeing if their responses properly match up people to their object. If they are a truth-teller, move on to asking about an egg. If they tell the truth, you know who has an egg.

However, one haphazard strategy is to simply shoot three random people. This gives a 1 in 3 chance of winning, with no real effort.

Usually, if a suspect you know is lying accuses another person, they are often the culprit.

== Suspects, locations, and items ==
Suspects, locations, and items are randomly assigned for each game.
===Suspects===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Blonde Woman.png | <center>Blonde woman</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Blue Hat.png | <center>Blue hat man</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png | <center>Butcher</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Butler.png | <center>Butler</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - John.png | <center>[[John McEnroe]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Mechanic.png | <center>Mechanic </center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Old Lady.png | <center>Old Woman</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png | <center>Red-haired boy</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Red Hat.png | <center>Red hat man</center>
</gallery>

===Locations===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Aquarium.png | <center>Aquarium</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Theater.png | <center>Art museum</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Museum.png | <center>Bank</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Beach.png | <center>Beach</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Pier.png | <center> Bridge</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - City.png | <center> City</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Desert.png | <center> Desert</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Siberia.png | <center> Siberia</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Forest.png | <center> Park</center>
</gallery>

===Items===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Egg.png | <center>An [[egg]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Beer.png | <center>[[Alcohol|Beer]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Bomb.png | <center>Bomb</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Cat.png | <center>Cat</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Duffel.png | <center>Gym bag</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Pencil.png | <center>Pencil</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Plant.png | <center>Potted plant</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Slingshot.png | <center>Slingshot</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Strawberry.png | <center>Strawberry</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Wrench.png | <center>Wrench</center>
</gallery>

== Endings ==
[[Image:Where's an egg loose screen.PNG|thumb|Lose screen]]
If you run out of time or shoot three characters who do not have an egg, the game ends. The character who did have an egg is shown running with it through the area they were in, and the main character is shown in Siberia wearing prison clothes and a ball-and-chain. He quickly turns into a skeleton.

[[Image:Where's an egg win screen.PNG|thumb|left|Win screen]]
If you successfully reclaim an egg, a uniformed man (probably [[Wikipedia:Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]) awards you with a badge in front of [[Wikipedia:Lenin's Mausoleum|Lenin's Mausoleum]]. The screen pans up to the sky, where fireworks shoot off. If the game was completed with enough time left on the clock, different spaceships fly through the sky:
*901–940 seconds left — one spaceship
*941–970 seconds left — two spaceships
*971 or more seconds left — three spaceships, the last of which is exited by a cosmonaut

{{clear}}

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This game was released more than two and a half years after its description was featured on the Videlectrix website. The [[main page message]] announcing its release read: '''new' videlectrix game!''
*The language used in the game is [[wikipedia:Russian language|Russian]], and is understandable to a native speaker, although there are various grammatical and stylistic errors (see [[#Translations|Translation section]]).
*After shooting someone who does not have an egg, you can still question them and they will reply with the symbol for the [[Wikipedia:International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement|Red Cross]] (indicating they require medical attention). The Red Cross has recently been [http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=016637&tid=001 trying to stop game creators from using their logo this way].
*In every game, there are either three or four suspects who tell the truth, and either three or four suspects who will give an answer when asked about an egg. Three is more common in both cases. 
*Each suspect has a theme song that plays when you visit them.
**If a suspect talks about another person, that person's theme plays in the right speaker.
**If you ask about another person, that person's theme plays in the left speaker.
**If you shoot a suspect, their theme song volume is lowered.
**The victory music is all of the suspects' themes played on top of each other.
*Where's an Egg? is shown on a [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy disk]] in the introductions for [[strongbad_email.exe]] Discs [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three|Three]] and [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Five]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:Eggpage2.jpg|thumb|Page 13 of the instruction manual]]
*A [[Videlectrix:eggction.html|page of the manual]] was also made available at the same time as the game was released.
*Although the Videlectrix description suggests that an egg may be in "Mancuso's garage", a garage is not one of the locations in the game, although there is a mechanic.

===Goofs===
*For the first second of the game, the timer reads 000, when its true value is 999. One second later, it changes to 998. If you manage to win in that first second, it will read 999 on the victory screen.
*The game has a check to prevent liars from replying with their own picture, item, or location, but a programming error allows them to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs.

===Glitches===
*If you shoot the last bullet at the wrong person right before time is up, when the clock runs to 000, you will be presented with a win screen with the perpetrator sliding across the screen, plus the lose screen in Siberia, then presented with a medal.

===Inside References===
*This is another mention of [[eggs]] and [[alcohol]].
*The main character wields a [[gun]].
*All of the suspects [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack visible arms]].
*[[Some Type of Online Auction]] was previously used to sell a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[english paper]].
*The red-haired boy shares several features with both [[Kid Speedy]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]] from [[Peasant's Quest]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Boise, Idaho|Boise]] is the capital city of the US state [[Wikipedia:Idaho|Idaho]].
*Brodermaker is a reference to video game company [[Wikipedia:Brøderbund|Brøderbund]], makers of the [[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] games.
**This game is also very similar, in some aspects, to the early Carmen Sandiego games.
*The music at the beginning of the game accompanying the Videlectrix logo is from the traditional Russian [[Wikipedia:The Volga Boatmen's Song|Song of the Volga Boatmen]].
*The three spacecraft that fly across the screen in the ending sequence are [[Wikipedia:Sputnik 1|Sputnik 1]], [[Wikipedia:Vostok 1|Vostok 1]], and [[Wikipedia:Voskhod 2|Voskhod 2]], commemorating three "firsts" of the Russian space program: the first artificial satellite, the [[Wikipedia:Yuri Gagarin|first man in space]], and the [[Wikipedia:Aleksei Leonov|first spacewalk]], respectively.
**The congratulation scene is reminiscent of the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy|Game Boy]] and [[Wikipedia:NES|NES]] versions of [[Wikipedia:Tetris|Tetris]] (a game that is famous for having come out of Russia), in which the player was shown rocket and shuttle launches of spacecraft at the end of a game depending on how well the player did.
*Gameplay bears certain superficial similarities to the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]], being a [[Wikipedia:Whodunit|whodunit]] wherein a specific accusation must be formulated from a set of distinct suspects, items and locations.
*The scene where the main character is stuck in icy mountains with a ball and chain is a reference to the old Russian practice of [[Wikipedia:Gulag|exiling criminals]] to [[Wikipedia:Siberia|Siberia]], which is a cold, mountainous region of Russia.

===Translations===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Location !! Message !! Transliteration !! Translation !! Notes
|-
| Loading screen || телевизионный электрический || televizzionniy elektricheskii || Videlectrix || ''Literally:'' "televisual electric"
|-
| Title || Где – Яйцо? || Gde Yaitso? || Where's an egg? || Russian has no article, so it is impossible to make a distinction between "the egg" and "an egg" and the title could refer to either. The dash in the title is incorrect; such a dash is only used to separate a predicate from a noun phrase (an action from an object) instead of the present tense of the verb "to be", which does not exist in Russian.
|-
| Inscription above the columns of the gray building || Берег || Bereg || Bank || The word has the sense of "riverbank", as opposed to a financial service institution, which would be "банк" (Bank). Furthermore, the game mistakenly uses a capital "R" instead of the Cyrillic "г", which resembles a lowercase "r".
|-
| When you discover who had an egg || виновник || vinovnik || criminal ''or'' guilty person ||
|-
| rowspan="2" | When you win the game || поздравление || pozdravlenie || congratulations || Although English speakers often use the noun "Congratulations," a Russian would probably have used a verb: "I congratulate you with your victory." The verb is often dropped entirely from such phrases, leaving only "with your victory."
|-
| ЛЕНИН || LENIN || [[Wikipedia:Vladimir Lenin|Lenin]] || An entrance to [[Wikipedia:Lenin's Mausoleum|Lenin's Mausoleum]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | When you lose || гулаг || gulag || [[Wikipedia:Gulag|Gulag]] || The name given to the Soviet labor camps
|-
| игра законченный || igra zakonchenniy || game over || This phrase is incorrect due to misuse of gender (nouns have genders in Russian). Grammatically correct phrase would read "игра закончена" (igra zakonchena).
|}

==External Links==
*[[Videlectrix:wheresanegg.html|Play Where's an Egg?]]
*[[Videlectrix:egg7.swf|Play Where's an Egg? (Flash file)]]
*[[Videlectrix:eggction.html|View the auction for the instructions]]
*[[Forum:11947|forum thread re: "Where's An Egg?"]]
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[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

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==Character themes==

I just noticed something. Every character has their own variation on the theme that plays in that person's presence. Whenever you ask a character about another character, or they answer a question about that character, that character's theme will be played along with the theme of the character you're speaking with. But when only items and places are involved in the question (or the occasional super-bad liar who answers a question with him/herself when it's patently not true), you'll hear only the one character's theme. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Multiple endings==

I've found that depending on how quickly I finish the games. So far, I've found four:
*Fireworks only — 900 seconds or less left
*Fireworks and a white satellite-looking spaceship — 901-940 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, and a yellow/brown spaceship — 941-970 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, a yellow/brown spaceship, and a gray/green spaceship with an alien coming out — 971 or more seconds left
I'm unsure whether there are any other endings for amounts of time left much smaller than the above. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:My guess is that the 3rd one is a space lab and the "alien" that comes out is a cosmonaut performing a space walk.

:I managed to win a few times just by shooting at everyone immediately. My best time is 994 and all I get is the sputnik, the rocket and the space lab.

:[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't just any "spaceships", those are definitely meant to refer to the Sputnik satellites.

The first is Sputnik. The second is probably [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1 Vostok 1], with Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space. The third is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_2 Voskhod 2], with Aleksei Leonov, the first human to perform a spacewalk. [[User:CaseyG|CaseyG]] 01:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Dead on - good work! They definitely appear to be celebrating Russia's "firsts" in space. First man-made satellite, first human in space, and first spacewalk. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I let the time run down to 96 before getting bored, and nothing unusual happened when I shot the culprit. So it doesn't seem there are any other endings. Why the heck they think people need as much time as they give is totally and utterly beyond me - the amount of time is ridiculously high and takes forever to run down! - but whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I let it run down to 001 and shot the culprit — just the normal ending. Also, I agree: 1000 seconds is unnecessary. I will say, though, that the first time I played it I was completely clueless, so it was nice that I could take my time stumbling around and trying to figure out what was going on. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:::This is Forum fodder primarily, but I'll briefly add that being timed out when learning a game is really frustrating and turns me off, and that may be a reason behind TBC's use of such a long timeout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Locations, suspects, and items ==
Here are my attempts at identifying the locations, suspects, and items. I'm not sure of all of them, especially the ones with question marks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
===Locations===
*Aquarium
*Forest
*Museum (?)
*Siberia (thanks, [[Special:Contributions/70.116.132.84|70.116.132.84]])
*City
*Desert
*Beach
*Movie theater
*Pier

===Suspects===
*Butler
*Blue hat man
*Maid
*Blonde woman
*[[Wikipedia:John McEnroe|John McEnroe]] (I think — recall that Homestar [[:Image:Homestar JohnMcEnroe.PNG|previously dressed up as him]])
*Mechanic
*Old Woman
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Red hat man

===Items===
*[[Egg]]
*Potted plant
*Strawberry
*[[Alcohol|Beer]]
*Pencil
*Bomb
*Duffel bag
*Monkey wrench
*Slingshot
*Cat

I think once the locations, items, suspects are re-ordered, we can pull the stub tag off the article. Lots of great info and we have the basics now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:The proposed Kid Speedy is still listed as "Red-haired boy" on the page. Also, he could be [[Ron Cumberdale]] instead. [[User:72.133.214.202|72.133.214.202]] 04:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

== Item Talk ==

I have noticed, if people talk about an item when you question them about the egg, talk about the item. They will then tell you a person, and a place. If the person is at that place with the item, they usually have the egg. If they ARN'T at that spot, the one who gave you the info usually has the egg. Anyone have this not happen? (Notice I said USUALLY)--[[User:Bobmuffins|Bobmuffins]] 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Painfully dumb question... ==

How do you play the game if you don't speak or read Russian?
:Actual game play requires no knowledge of Russian, since it done completely with pictures. The Russian writing is meaningless or poorly done, anyway. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

- Hey; erm, I have no real idea about wiki ettiquete but I just wanted to say that the Russian is all more or less correct and certainly not meaningless. Here goes: The title, 'gde yaitso' indeed means 'where is the/an egg?' (although the dash in the middle is not needed) - the reference to 'gde yaichko' that is made on the corresponding wiki article on this topic is wrong; 'yaichko' is a diminuitive form roughly equivalent to 'eggy'. 'Gde yaitso' i.e. as written in the game is the best translatoin for 'Where's an Egg?'. On the loading screen, 'televizionniy elektricheskiy' - 'televisual electrical' is fairly senseless but apart from that, the rest of the russian is correct. When you shoot the egg-haver, 'vinovnik' (criminal) appears, and then 'pozdravlenie' (congratulations). If you get it wrong, 'vinovnik' again appears, followed by 'gulag' (russians tend to use the simpler word 'lager'' but gulag is a russian acronym) and then 'igra zakonchenniy' - the only real example of incorrect grammar. It means 'game over' but should be 'igra zakonchennaya' to account for the feminine gender of 'igra'. Hardly 'meaningless or poorly done'. I was pretty surprised with the quality of the russian, to be honest
:: Since it clear you know Russian, and I definitely do not, I would bow to your superior knowledge. In this case, I would say writing up this information in the wiki directly would be much appreciated. (Perhaps under a translation section?) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Russian text is only used for the title screen and the "congraturatory" address. "Dialogue" in the game itself is handled through pictograms ("Blue Rabbit's Climate Chaos" comes to mind, although this is much more simplistic). Basically, you go around "investigating" each area, confirming which characters are where and which items they're holding, and questioning the characters about other characters and items; if you find someone who's lying, odds are he/she is the culprit, and you do what any good renegade Russian detective would: you shoot them! ^_^--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 19:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

: Actually, I find that about half the suspects lie, whether they have the egg or not. But really, since everyone either always lies or always tells the truth, all you have to do is find someone who gives you a clue about the egg and says even one other true thing. (Don't bother asking anyone, truthteller or liar, about him/herself or his/her own item, though.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Too many colors==
When you hover over a button, it gradients from gray to yellow (and back again when you remove) Thats waaaaay too many shades of yellow for a game like this. Maybe put this in remarks or goofs. I have bad edit etiquette :P
:Hardly. I think the gradient is a nice touch, and it was definitely intentional, as part of the game. Definitely not a goof. [[User:The 3000th flare|The_3000th_Flare]]
::This is a ridiculous claim, and I will have no part in this discussion... oh crap, I already did. So, best thing to do is... to go back and not listen to that message, and then we've got nothing to worry about. Oh, wait... in fact...
::...tcaf ni ...tiaw ,hO .tuoba yrrow ot gnihton tog ev'ew neht dna ,egassem taht ot netsil ton dna kcab og ot ...si od ot gniht tseb ,oS .did ydaerla I ,parc ho ...noissucsid siht ni trap on evah lliw I dna ,mialc suolucidir a si sihT
::Okay, there. I think I reversed it. What? What do you ''mean'' that doesn't work? Oh, crap. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

==Screen shot==
Since the game is out for reals and looks different from the preview shot that was originally up, shouldn't we use a screen shot of actual game play? Do we include both images on the page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I went ahead and replaced the old image with the new one, since that's what we did with [[Kid Speedy]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Maid ==
[[Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png|thumb|Totally a butcher.]]
Which person is supposed to be the maid? Process of elimination of all the other characters left a person who appears to be a butcher.--[[User:Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel|Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel]] 21:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Also, which one is supposed to be the movie theater? Process of elimination left what resembles the Lincoln Memorial.

I think the one with the red rope and yellowish wall is the movie theater.- [[User:70.243.66.159|70.243.66.159]] 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC) (Everybody! Sorry, forgot to sign in...)

== Ending Screen ==

That's not a police station, it's Lenin's Mausoleum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum)
:Apparently we don't know too much 'bout Russia. Thanks for pointing that out! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Also the word vinovnik (виновник) would be better translated as "guilty person". Criminal is prestupnik (преступник) in Russian.

We would probably use "culprit" in English.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

That "uniformed man" looks like Stalin [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Stalin_02.jpg]. Well, as much as 'good graphics' can allow, anyways ;). It's got his mustache. Given that the game seems to be set in Soviet Russia, there is more than a good chance that it's suppose to be Stalin. What does everyone else thing? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|23:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)}}

:I'm all for it. It looks enough like him to me, and it certainly fits with the Russian theme. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

::It seems very likely. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:Does anyone not think it's Stalin?

::I think it ''could'' be, but are we sure enough for this not to be considered undue speculation? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::To me, it has the following point for it being Stalin:
:::the setting is Soivet Russia
:::the medal is given out at Lenin's Mausoleum, and Stalin stood atop of Lenin's Mausoleum during the post-WWII victory parade (it's the kind of place a Soviet dictator would give out a medal)
:::The mustache and uniform look like Stalin's, and not like any other Soviet dictator (No other Soviet dictator had a mustach like that, although Lenin did have a goatee, he wasn't known for wearing a uniform and would, persumably, be in his tomb)
:::Stalin might actually want someone shot for stealing an egg (and I'm only half joking on that last one)
::I don't see any points against it being Stalin. I cannot discount it being some other uniformed mustachio'd Soviet authority figure, like some head of the KGB or something, but no others come to mind
::Does anyone know someone else that might fit that discritpion? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|02:12, 18 July 2007}}

:::I '''strongly oppose''' the idea that it's Stalin. It's just a guy in a uniform. There were many of those if Soviet Russia, Lenin's tomb was used by every Soviet leader for parades, and Stalin was dead years before those spacecrafts were launched. I also see absoluetly no persuavive reason why it ''should'' be Stalin.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::::I see your point, but I don't think the timeline matters too much — John McEnroe wasn't even born when Sputnik was launched, for example. Rather, I think these other famous historical Russian appearances strengthen the case for it being Stalin. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Stalin is in this game, but not the uniformed man. It's the man pictured immediately above this thread.
:::::: Were it not for the timeline, I would say it was certainly Stalin. Both the mustache and uniform are too close to be coincidence. Even with the timeline problems, I think Stalin is still the best fit. He is certainly the most obvious mustached man in a Russian uniform. In fact I can't think of any other who would be appropriate. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:::What is being ignored, perhaps, is the quote of Stalin's (though far from originally his) that "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs." It is often falsely attributed to him. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7RNWN&q=Make+omelet+breaking+eggs+stalin Do I really need to give you a google link to it?]

== Suspect and location images ==

While the suspect and location images were originally icons, they have now been overwritten with full-sized images. Personally, I prefer the icons for three reasons:
#The full body characters are much taller than the rest of the images, which makes the table look a little lopsided.
#<s>The icon images are pixel-for-pixel, whereas there are some cropping issues with the full-sized images (compare the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716220648%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png butcher icon}} with the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716235952%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png full-body butcher}})</s> (fixed)
#We don't need to illustrate every component of the game completely, just give an icon for identification purposes.
Does anyone agree, or are we happy with the staus quo? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: I think the table is fine as is, especially with the ability to expand the locations to a larger size. Perhaps making the size of the icons closer to the same size (using the item icons as a guide)? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

::The icons are fine by me, alhtough the cropping issues can easily be fixed. If you think reverting back to icons is the better choice, by all means, go for it. I don't see a problem with keeping the locations as full shots, however. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Names of People, Places and iTems ==

Using a decompiler, the names are '''Jessifer, Pall, Brodermaker, Mancuso, Damella, Deark, Gubby, Les and Joeff'''. The places are called '''Seward Lane, Hollway, A Room, Gym, Bank, Gumption Road, Upstairs, Nearby and Under'''. The items are called '''Bottle, Ball, Butterfly, Dog, Gym Bag, Fanny Pack, Frying Pan, Candlestick and Laptop'''. Not sure which is which. I might have another look later on when I'm home from school.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:That's crazy :P Especially since some of those names bear little resemblance to the items... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm more surprised they put all the names there. By the way, nice work on the [[looking old]] reference. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a Flash decompiler and I'm not finding these names anywhere in the image files. Where are YOU finding them? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: Never mind; I found them, but I see no indication of which is which, unless they define them in numerical order as the images appear (and who could tell - there aren't any bottles or balls to be seen anyway!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The internal names Loafing listed don't appear to actually be used anywhere... the only time these lists of names are even mentioned is that the list of placenames is added to a non-existant (or no-longer-existant) drop-down list on the map screen (possibly a stub, before they made the pretty buttons?). They seem to only be there for debugging purposes. However, it's reasonable to assume that, as debugging tools, they're in the same order as the numerical ids that everything's stored with, which'll make them:
{| border="0"
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Places
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Seward Lane || Aquarium
|-
| Hollway || Park
|-
| A Room || Icy Mountains
|-
| Gym || Bank
|-
| Bank || Beach
|-
| Gumption Road || Desert
|-
| Upstairs || City
|-
| Nearby || Art Museum
|-
| Under || Bridge
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Items
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Bottle || Wrench
|-
| Ball || Beer
|-
| Butterfly || Cat
|-
| Dog || Slingshot
|-
| Gym Bag || Pencil
|-
| Fanny Pack || Gym Bag
|-
| Frying Pan || Bomb
|-
| Candlestick || Potted Plant
|-
| Laptop || Strawberry
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | People
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Jessifer || Blonde Woman
|-
| Pall || Blue hat man
|-
| Brodermaker || Old Woman
|-
| Mancuso || Butler
|-
| Damella || Mechanic
|-
| Deark || Red hat man
|-
| Gubby || Butcher
|-
| Les || Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale
|-
| Joeff || John McEnroe
|}
|}
It seems clear that these debugging names were used ''well before'' the current art was made... it's odd that the one named "Bank" is one ''after'' the real Bank, and the "Gym Bag" is one ''before'' the real Gym Bag... but that's the order they are in the Flash file. I don't think the names warrant mentioning in the article... which is why I made the full tables here on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

: We should definitely keep our names in the articles; they're much clearer [[User:The 3000th flare|The_3000th_Flare]] 18:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
::I think we should put TBC names in the Trivia section. [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 14:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== The Manual ==

The manual page is really funny in the way, that its English translation is more correct then the original Russian text :)

* The word at the top of the page "Узнать" (Uznat') is correct, it really does mean "Find out";
* The line "Кто лежит?" (Kto lezhit?) is a mistake and actually means here "Who is lying on the ground?" rather then "Who is telling lies/lying?". This is because in English the verb "to lie" can mean both of those things, but in Russian it's "лежать" (lezhat') for "lying on the ground" and "лгать" (lgat') for "telling the lies/lying". So the line should be "Кто лжет?" (Kto lzhet?);
* The line "Кто говорит правду?" (Kto govorit pravdu?) is correct, it does mean "Who tells the truth?";
* The line "Кто имеет яйцо?" (Kto imeet yaico?) is a bit incorrect and means "Who owns an egg?". "У кого яйцо?" (U kogo yaico?) could be translated as "Who has the egg?"

Another note: The Arbat ST. (location of the seller) is a well-known street in Moscow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbat_Street).
: This would be excellent information for the [[Some Type of Online Auction]] page, where the Arbat Street reference is already noted. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Musie Theater? ==

I'm quite confident that the image given the label "Theater" is actually the museum. It looks just like an art museum display and... not at all like a movie theater. The other one's kind of ambiguous as to WHAT it is, but I'm quite sure on the "Theater". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:The other one looks like some kinda government building. Maybe if someone could translate the Russian on the building, it would shed some light on this? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:For now, I swapped the Theater one (pictures with a velvet rope) in the correct place. (Compare with the theater in [[the movies]]) I did notice that the one current marked "Museum" has some Russian writing on it. If someone would translate that, in addition to finding out what how the image is marked internally, for now it's probably better to leave the images where they are. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::You... you swapped it from my swap. The one with the ropes looks more like an art museum. Why would the ropes be so close to the pictures otherwise? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I have seen plenty of movie theaters that have velvet ropes along the walls; they are used when they have people line up before the start of movie for a major opening. The other picture is clearly ''not'' a movie theater, so we need to wait until we have further info. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: But who was it that called it a "movie theater" in the first place? US! There is no "further info" besides maybe someone with a flash compiler or a translation of the pillar building. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: Know what? Forget it. I don't want an edit war. I'm compromising with simple descriptions no one can dispute. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks from [[#Names of People, Places and iTems|above]] that one of these (probably the one with the pillars) is a bank, but who knows with the weirdness of the rest of the names. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:If the one current marked as Museum is indeed a bank, I would have no problem making the other a museum. Right now, it's unclear. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so can we call the one with the velvet ropes a "Museum" now? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that sounds reasonable. At first, I thought it was a movie theater, but the more I look at it, the more those look like pieces of art. Especially the one on the left. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::And y'know - who named that last one a "pier"? Looks more like a bridge to me. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The gray one with what looks like "bEPER" on it is a bank. "берег" is Russian for "bank" according to some online English-Russian dictionary I just Googled. I submit that the one with the velvet ropes is an art musuem. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:About the museum one, I think it's an ''art'' museum. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Glitch or not? ==

Someone on the forums mentioned a glitch where, if you click on the top left corner a lot of times as the game starts, you can win with a timer score of 000. This is only if the person in the aquarium has the egg. I tried it and it worked, but I'm not sure if it's really a glitch or not. Thoughts? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Additionally, each time I've done it (by clicking the area of the screen where the Aquarium icon and gun icon overlap) the timer freezes at 000, but at the "Win" screen the timer reads 999 and all three spacecraft appear. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:: Just reproduced it myself, although given other Flash-related artifacts like this, I imagine that the way-way-way-way-way-too-generous timer starts at 1000 and it just chops off the first digit... and perhaps drops it down to a normal value afterwards. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Don't know if it's really a "glitch" if it only works when the suspect in the ''aquarium'' has the egg. That would make it more a matter of luck. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Glitches that only happen under specific circumstances are still glitches. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but if the person in the aquarium has the egg, all you need to do is keep clicking the top left to finish the game in less than a second. That combined with the explanation you gave earlier about the timer actually being 1000 seconds, ''I'' think, completely disproves the glitch theory. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::The internal timer variable starts at 999 (which is what you see at the "win" screen), but the display in-game starts at 000 (not 1000) and is only updated a second after the game starts, the first time the "update timer" function's called. I think this qualifies as a minor glitch (namely that the display doesn't match the actual timer value for a second after the game starts). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqQ-r2mGe0Q Here] is a link to a video on youtube which shows someone winning when the timer displays 000. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 15:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I don't consider this to be a glitch — just somebody beating the game really quickly with 1000 seconds left on the clock (which looks like 000 because only three digits are permitted). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::But it's not 1000 seconds left on the clock - it's 999 seconds (as you can see at the win screen). The "glitch" is that the timer isn't visibly incremented down until it gets to 998.-{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah. I just managed to do that, twice! But yeah, it's not visibly incremented until a few seconds after the start of the game. — {{User:Znex/sig}} 05:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Jack Orlando ==

Can anyone confirm the "Jack Orlando" Real-World Reference? The screenshots I've seen of that game look absolutely nothing like this one. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Dead People Tell Tales? ==

When I play the game, I killed someone and ask him about something and he replyed with a + sign. This should go into remarks I think. - Toonypie from the Fanstuff Wiki.

: It's a red cross - they're only capable of answering questions with requests for medical aid, seeing as how they've been shot and all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==5 Time win with no intention==
I won 5 times in this game just by going around and shooting 3 random people. It was awesome. YOU should try it!-MikeControl
:I think more people would be interested if you told them on the IRC channel. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: You have a one-in-three chance of getting it right by shooting random people. Those aren't terrible odds, so your five times in a row was just luck. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:: That was sheer luck. I accidentally got 998 by clicking the gun after clicking the aquarium. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::(1/3)^5 = 1/243. That's some luck. {{unsigned|68.121.111.150|12:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)}}
:::He never actually said he won five times in a row, just that he won five times. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:38%, not 33%. 1/9 (.111) on the first shot, 1/8 (.125) to then get it on the second and 1/7 (.143) to then get it on the third. 37.9%. Big deal you say? .379^5 is 1/128. But yeah, don't know that it was five consecutive.--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 07:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's 33%. You're picking three of nine. If you really want to compute it the hard way, you have to take into account the probability of choosing incorrectly on the first and second tries. So, there's a 1/9 (.111) chance of being right on the first try, a 8/9 * 1/8 (.888 * .125) chance of being wrong on the first try and right on the second try, and a 8/9 * 7/8 * 1/7 (.888 * .825 * .143) chance of being wrong twice and then right. Add them all up and you get -- surprise, surprise -- a .333 chance of winning by shooting at random.

== Fabergé eggs? ==

When you talk about Russian eggs being stolen, it's almost certain that this is a reference to [[wikipedia:Fabergé_Eggs|Fabergé eggs]]. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:I guess it could be a reference to Fabergé eggs. But it could also be [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think the egg being stolen is just a joke (because no one would shoot a person to get back a stolen ''egg''). {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It could also be a reference to comunism (sp?) where nobody is allowed to have more than anouther person. [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 14:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Strategy shortcut ==

:''Because they cannot provide you with useful information, it is worthwhile to shoot the first two suspects you know to be lying. One of them might just have the egg.''
I'm not sure why this keeps getting removed. It seems like a reasonable strategy to me. After you've played the game a bit, you know you really only need one bullet. The other two are just going to waste. Why not use them on the liars? Their info is no good, and you may get lucky and finish with a better time. If it doesn't work out, then you've still got your last bullet to use in the conventional way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:What's a waste of time is shooting suspects who may not have the egg. It's much better to be sure who the real culprit is than to leave it to luck, even if it turns out to be someone you've seen before. Like [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=599475&highlight=#599475 this trick] I use. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::It takes just over one extra second to shoot the liars. That seems an acceptable tradeoff for the amount of time it would take to keep going normally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Well of course you can use any other strategy and just shoot any liars you come across. But that doesn't make this a strategy in itself. Any player could simply decide to do that; it doesn't take any real thought. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 22:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No real thought? ''Au contraire!'' The suggestion is not to shoot people ''indiscriminantly'', but to shoot the first two liars you see (which takes some determining). You're not going back to a location where a liar is anyway—unless you have to confront the egg holder there. You could save a lot of time by going ahead and using your spare bullets before you leave the location. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Uh, that's exactly what I just said. This does not take any "real thought" because it is not a strategy as much as it is an add-on to another strategy. Yes it takes "some determining" to recognize liars, but methods for doing so are described in any strategy (including strategies we don't know). And it is not "worthwhile" to shoot the first known liars because it is so uncertain whether they would actually have the egg; the point of a solid strategy is ensuring correctness. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Note that the way the game works, you don't lose anything for shooting innocent civilians, except the brief second it takes for the detour of the mouse. You only lose out if you get it wrong three times. So a strategy doesn't have to be certain or get it right first time to be "correct" or "worthwhile". The only thing you're graded on is how long it takes you to find the right culprit, on your third guess or better. Anything that speeds that up is worthwhile. Just 'cause shooting people "just in case" or guessing in detective work is generally considered a bad idea in real life doesn't mean it isn't sensible in the context of the game. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'm inclined to agree with [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. You don't lose anything if you shoot two liars, except maybe a second, and the odds of getting lucky and shooting the guilty party are not all that bad. Additionally many people would not necessarily think of "Wasting" bullets on innocent civilians, so it is a worthwhile thing to record. — {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 20:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I added a new strategy paragraph dealing with an observation I made regarding "bad liars". I wasn't really sure if it might be considered a goof or if it was obviously intentional. Specifically, I had the Old Lady answer "potted plant" to two different suspects and then answer with her own picture when questioned about two different items that were not her own. Additionally, I had a later session where a character indicated the mechanic when asked about the beer, but when asked about the mechanic, answered "pencil". I'm starting to wonder if all liars will have some sort of inconsistency in their stories. And does anyone know if the Egg Haver is always a liar? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 06:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

:I recently did no less than 20 trials in a row. Every single time the person with the egg was a liar. Short of decompiling the flash, which is beyond my ability, I'm not sure if there is a way to truely know, but 20/20 seems pretty convincing. One other thing I paid attention to was if the person with the egg reliably pointed at someone else. More often than not, he was a "?," but considering most people are "?" I suspect this isn't an indicator.
:Assuming that the egg holder is alway a a liar, which I have come to belive he is, and considering that there are generally 3-4 liars, you have a 2/3-2/4 chance of discovering the egg holder just by shooting liars, which I'd say is actually a pretty decent strategy.
:Sometimes this strategy of discovering liars gives some amusing results, The most amusing one I encountered though was a liar who said he was the person with the egg, but didn't have it.[[User:75.180.26.208|75.180.26.208]] 08:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I've decompiled it and am browsing through the script now. I'm not a professional programmer, but some of it is fairly straightforward. Interestingly enough, I think I've already found a programming error that explains a strange response I documented earlier. The code that tells a liar what suspect to answer when questioned about an item checks that the random answer doesn't match the liar's "item ID" instead of correctly checking against the liar's "suspect ID". This means that a liar can answer with their own face when questioned about an item that isn't theirs. That's definitely a glitch. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
:::No, it isn't. It is indeed a lie to say you have it when you don't. I suppose one could argue that it would have been better to program it so no one falsely incriminates themselves, but that's hardly a glitch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ok, here we go - each section of the decompiled script has checks to ensure that a liar does not give their own location, item, or photo (or the "correct" ones, for that matter) as an answer when questioned about another item or person. However, when a liar is questioned about an item, and is randomly assigned to answer with a photo (as opposed to a location), there is a check against an ITEM ID instead of a SUSPECT ID, which is incorrect. I'm adding the relevant items back into the article, and have posted the offending source code snippet to [[User_Talk:ReverendTed|my Talk page]], because I didn't want to clutter up this discussion page with it. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 18:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles? ==

I don't know if Where's an Egg? is one of the games that can be subtitled, but if so it could be neat to include approximate translations of the Russian...

My guess is that it's not possible to subtitle, though... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your guess is wrong. {{User:Mee/sig}} 22:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Well, partially — I was only able to subtitle [[Subtitles:wheresanegg/en|part of it]], since the rest of the text is embedded in movie files, I think. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

At the begining, when the Videlectrix logo apears, but before the guy shoots at it, the music playing is The Volga Boatmen's Song, traditional Russian song.

:That's awesome. (I just verified it) Great find! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Ron Cumberdale ==

The character listed as "Kid Speedy" has red hair, but the real Kid Speedy has brown/gray hair. Ron Cumberdale from Peasant's Quest, however, has the same shirt AND red hair. Edit? [[User:75.119.20.104|75.119.20.104]] 01:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:<s>I agree. I think "Kid Speedy" is just an updated version of [[Ron Cumberdale]].</s> On second thought, I disagree. Look at these three photos.

<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png|WAE? suspect
Image:kidspeedy.PNG|Kid Speedy
Image:roncumberdale.PNG|Ron Cumberdale
</gallery>

The skin tone, dark red shorts, same darkred/white striped shirt, and red shoes all match. It's Kid Speedy. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

As the one who originally suggested it as Kid Speedy, I concur with the original. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:I agree — I think it's Kid Speedy. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I was agreeing with the first one. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. In that case, I disagree — I think it's Kid Speedy. He's fat and has shorts instead of pants... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I just edited it and put Kid Speedy back but kept the Ron Cumberdale thing in. Basically, we don't know who it is unless someone got told it was Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale by TBC. They're the only ones who truly know. — {{User:Znex/sig}} 09:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I propose that it's "Kid Cumberdale" -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::No way. That's totally Ron Speedy. (Jeepers, that sounds like a bad Golden Age superhero...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ron Speedy IS Kid Cumberdale IN "Where's an Egg?", an epic tale of crime and corruption where Justice isn't all it's cracked up to be - coming soon to a theater near you! -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 06:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

==Dynamic Music==

Has anyone else noticed how there is a base music track, and depending on which suspect you are interrogating, changes the extra line on top of it? eg, when you're interrogating blue guy with red hat, there's a sliding squarewave melody, and at the end when you get the medal, it has all the lines.
:Ummm...there's already a section about this back up the page. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Explanation about the Missing Points in my Last Edit ==

If around one hour ago, you were wondering why that the red cross reply point and the Stalin point were missing, I can explain everything. Before, I think I reverted the page or something by accident to the last time that it had Kid Speedy in the characters thing and that version happened to not have those things. So sorry about that. Sorry. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Not The Egg ==

It seems rather clear thar "an egg" has an integral article--it is refered to as such even in situations where "the egg" would be more appropriate, as it is clear this egg is the only egg in the game. --[[User:71.221.232.189|71.221.232.189]] 17:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Translation Error ==

This is not the first time there has been a synonym based mistranslation on the site. Here, they used the russian word for river bank instead of financial bank. In Unnatural, Bub's title in Jappanese was "Man of Concession" meaning compromise instead of vending. Think this should be mentioned?
:Nah, it could be a word pun and TBC just did it because it means different things. — {{User:Znex/sig}}
::I don't know whether it's noteworthy yet, but it is an interesting observation. TBC are obviously using some less-than-reliable method for generating their translations (although it makes me happy that they're trying to make stuff not just be gibberish). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps they used Babelfish? — {{User:Znex/sig}}
::::Nah, it's not Babelfish, that translates "Bank" as "Крен" (kren). Google Translate translates it as "Банка" (banka). However, Google finds http://www.rustran.com/ which, although it translates "Bank" as "Банк", it translates "Who is lying?" as "Кто лежит?" and "Who has an egg?" as "Кто имеет яйцо?" – both are the wording used in [[eggction]], and both are claimed to be wrong in that article. It even translates "Where's an egg?" as "Где - яйцо?", hyphen included. It's near the top of the Google results for "english russian translator" so I think it's reasonable to think they did a similar Google search, and used this site. I'm not quite sure how they got it to say "берег" but I'll keep prodding it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:57, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I was the one who first noted the берег-bank thing, and I figured it out using a Russian-English dictionary I found using a Google search and plugging in "museum" and "bank" into it to see if anything matched the inscription on the building. I'll see if I can find that link and see if the rest of the stuff translates the same as well. Ok, I found it here [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/rus.html]] but, being a dictionary, it doesn't translate phrases - only single words. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::An older example of this situation is Strong Bad's "Stark Dålig" from [[little questions]], since the latter word translates as "of poor quality". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

==Sbemail Reference==
There is no reference on the page anywhere to the sbemail that mentioned the game, i think it should be here
:That is because none of the sbemails mention this game. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think it was listed on a floppy disk once, but I've never seen those noted in Inside References elsewhere, so... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It was on a [[floppy disk container|floppy disk]] in the introductions for [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three]] and [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Disc Five]], but not in a Strong Bad Email. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Decompiled Script Findings ==

I'm going to edit this as I find things in the decompiled script.
*The suspect who has an Egg is always a liar.
*A liar's answers are randomly assigned for each suspect and item and are checked to ensure they aren't accidentally "correct". They're also checked to ensure a liar doesn't answer with their own location, item, or picture, but the item-question photo-answer check has a programming error that causes it to malfunction. The way they are randomly assigned almost guarantees that there will be some sort of inconsistency in a liar's answers (two of the same answers for different questions, or logical breaks like "suspect A has item 1 but item 1 belongs to suspect B").
*People have been suggesting that there are 3 or 4 liars per game, but the code seems to indicate 5 liars are assigned, meaning that there would be 5 or 6 liars per game depending on if it tried to assign "liar" status to the egg holder (who is already a liar). So far, my in-game tests are confirming this.
*One honest suspect is selected at random to answer correctly about an Egg. Three additional suspects are then chosen at random (which could include the one already selected) to give an answer about an Egg, which will be correct or incorrect based on whether that suspect is honest or a liar. This means there will be 3 or 4 suspects who will give an answer about an Egg, and at least one will be correct.
-{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 19:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

==Programming error==
"A programming error allows a liar to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs". The liar always responds with a lie. How is it a goof that he lies and claims to own an item he does not? In traditional one-person-always-lies one-person-always-tells-the-truth logic puzzles, this is one way to out the liar, by asking him a question about himself. [[User:Nard|Nard]] 00:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:I agree with you — I wouldn't call that a goof. Actually, I think it's pretty hilarious; one time the butler told me had the egg, so I shot him. He did not have the egg. Anyways, I agree, and I think that the fact should be moved to Remarks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::If it's something TBC could have avoided, Remarks, otherwise, Glitches. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Definitely not a glitch - how can we be sure this wasn't intentional to offer the player a strategic tool? It can be a remark, so long as we do not suppose it's a mistake, but just the way things were done. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:This is a goof - it's a programming error explained in the "Decompiled Script Findings" just above this section, and I've got the offending source-code snippet on my Talk page to prove it. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::You speak as if you're sure this was unintended. Can you really be so sure? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::If it is a goof, then it's pretty dang minor if the only thing it does is make the liars lie. So what if you found a faulty code snippet? They probably noticed the mistake, then realized the mistake made it do what it was supposed to do anyway, and left it alone. It's certianly not worth mentioning a mistake that could only ever be noticed by ripping the Flash file to shreds.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 06:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
After looking at [[User talk:ReverendTed#Where's An Egg Source Code Snippet|the code]], I agree with ReverendTed that this is definitely a goof. Here is the relevant part, in English:
*You the player ask a suspect about one of the items.
*The game randomly selects whether the suspect will reply with a person or a place.
*If it selects to reply with a person, it then checks whether the suspect is a liar.
*If the suspect is a liar, the game randomly chooses a reply.
*The game first checks to make sure the randomly-chosen person is not the real answer to the question (otherwise the suspect wouldn't be lying).
*Then it checks to make sure the randomly-chosen person is not the same as the item at the current location. For example, "Is the man in the red hat equal to the pencil?" (Notice it doesn't ask whether the man ''has'' the pencil, but whether the man ''is'' the pencil.) The answer to this question can never be true (at least, not the way they intended; see ReverendTed's note below), and thus it is possible for a suspect to reply with their own face. For the question to make sense, the game should check whether the randomly-chosen person is the same as the person at the current location.
When the game makes similar checks in other places, the code is correct:
*If you ask about an item and a liar replies with a place, the game checks to make sure the randomly-chosen place is not the current location.
*If you ask a liar about a person, the game checks to make sure that either randomly-chosen item is not the item at the current location or that the randomly-chosen place is not the current location.
Even though this error results in a slight advantage for the player, I don't believe it was intentional on the part of the programmer. Otherwise, instead of having the game check to see whether characters are the same as items, it just wouldn't check anything at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:But still, all the goof does is make the liar lie. The only way it could possibly be known that it's a goof is by decompiling the Flash file and reading the script. This would be like if they had a comment tag in a script that said <code><//-- make marsipans face turn red here --//></code>, and we listed the goof that they misspelled Marzipan. The goof is irrelevant outside the code.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:38, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::No, that would be entirely different. That scenario would not affect anything in the toon, but this programming error actually affects the game. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 16:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::But in a way that is virtually unnoticable--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::The goof does not make the liar lie. What's happening is that the program is trying to make sure the liar doesn't reply with his or her own face, but the goof prevents this check from ever happening. I would not characterize this as "virtually unnoticeable". In fact, when a suspect replies with his or her own face, it is ''very'' noticeable. In addition, we are looking at the code for clues about the actual gameplay, not nitpicking comments. The fact that the only way to discover that this is a goof is by looking at the code does not make it less of a goof. On the contrary, I think it makes it even more interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::You ask about an item and he lies and says he has it when he doesn't. I don't see why that's such a big goof. Yeah, the program's not supposed to let him reply with his own face, but why does it matter that it does? It just makes him lie about something.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::In my opinion, the fact that you can only know it's a goof by looking at the code only makes it irrelevant to the toon. If we had a page that listed errors in the Flash files (do we?), that would be the place to list something like this.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 17:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::While playing the game, I wondered if they meant for it to work the way it does. Now, looking at the code, I can see that it was most likely a mistake, which is rightly noted in this article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, how 'bout if we at least reword it? "A programming error allows a liar to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs" makes it sound like it's obvious that they're not supposed to answer with their own face, but I don't think it's that obvious. How about "A liar isn't supposed be able to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs. A programming error allows them to do this."--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 17:20, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::It was my wording in the first place, so perhaps I'm a bit biased, but I think the original wording of the Goof ("A programming error allows a liar to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs") was the most succinct way to describe it accurately. The new wording says basically the same thing but takes a good deal longer to get the point across, though I suppose I can see the benefit of alluding to the other checks that DO function correctly. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 16:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
:One clarification to It's dot com's description above (as if this issue wasn't confounding enough already) - The person, item, and location IDs are simply numerical indexes of 1 through 9, so asking if "Person X" is Equal to "Item Y" could sometimes be true - it's just that the offending check eliminates one random person (the character whose personal ID matches the randomly-selected number of the liar's item ID) instead of eliminating the intended person (the number of the liar's personal ID). -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 16:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the timer, Phlip made {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=481346&oldid=481345 this edit}} moving it to the goofs section, and I'm assuming he had a reason for putting it there instead of glitches. I'm bringing it up here so that perhaps he or someone can shed some light on what specifically makes this a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so here's what I've found. Some aspects of the code are a little out of my league, but this is my understanding of the issue:
::*The timer graphic begins as plain text "000".
::*The internal timer itself is initialized at 999, the internal timer function calls itself (I think?), then a CallBack function is started at a 1 second interval.
::*The CallBack function (apparently after the first 1 second interval) immediately decrements the timer by 1 (to 998) and then calls the function to draw the timer.
::Unfortunately, my Windows search function is acting up, making it difficult to trace relations in the various script files, but it appears to me that the code is supposed to update the timer graphic immediately after initializing the internal timer to 999 by calling itself, but calling itself doesn't actually update the graphic (and accomplishes nothing, as far as I can tell, though this is one of those aspects of the code that I'm not entirely confident with) - since the CallBack function uses different code for that. So, I think it's a programming goof, and not necessarily a glitch. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 18:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Why are you reverting these edits? ==

I keep seeing edits being reverted that are factual, including mine and someone else's, but removed because the game isn't "russian" when there is a lot of RUSSIAN stuff in the game.
* Everything is written in russian.
* The guy at the end is a pixel look alike of Josef Stalin.
* The three spaceships that fly by are all russian made.
* The three spaceships are a reference to Tetris, a russian video game.
* The wiki itself explains that the game has russian references (read the *WHOOPS!* article, especially the trivia section!)
The edits were...
* The fact the game is in Russian meaning you can't understand what's going on and have to make guess work.
* The fact that on the "Some Type of Online Auction" page a reference to the film ''Man With the Screaming Brain'' is made, and the specific reference is about a russian.
If you're going to remove our edits of things we found in the game based on Russia then remove ALL topics in the game based on russia. Which would include the whole article!

Explain yourselves!

-<s>[[Skunk|User:Skunk]]</s> (I'm not logged in because this and others were quick edits.) ({{user|64.18.124.101}} 08:43, 10 August 2007)

:The game doesn't require any actual knowledge of Russian to play, however. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::Furthermore, even if you did know Russian, you still would be quite clueless. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 09:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

: Don't worry. It's not you. Despite the wording of the [HRWiki:Introduction|Introduction page], in my experience nobody is really allowed to contribute anything without undergoing an inordinate amount of nitpicking. I'll bet anyone $100 that if TBC themselves came to the site anonymously and made a correction that it would get reverted. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 15:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::I second that.
::*The main objective "Where's the egg?" is in Russian. Not being able to read that ''does'' make the game harder 'cause you have no idea what the crap is going on.
::*"Mobile is the future, my main man!" seems like a generic enough phrase, but if it's an exact quote, it's an exact quote. And furthermore, if the specific quote is about a Russian, it seems likely that it was intentional.
::--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Nsayer: It's easy to propose that kind of bet, given that it can't be backed up at all. Let's examine two instances of anonymous editing on [[Ryan Sterritt]]'s page. I believe that he or someone who knows him made {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ryan_Sterritt&diff=357704&oldid=354862 this collective edit}}, the information from which is still in the article. In that case, the information was relevant to the article and easily verifiable, and the nature of the edit made it easy to trust its accuracy. On the other hand, look at {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ryan_Sterritt&diff=472607&oldid=439626 this edit}}. It could have been added by Ryan, or it could be someone speculating. We have no way to know, since the editor didn't provide any information to support it. Thus, even though it might very well be true, it was removed. Surely you can see that we have to have some kind of standard for inclusion if we want our pages to be looked at as anything but haphazard guesswork. If you want to speculate, fine. We have these talk pages and the forum for that. But we should keep speculation in the articles proper to a minimum (and yes, we do make exceptions). Furthermore, you can't lump all anonymous contributions into one category. I'm all the time seeing anonnies make edits that are so good that they [[User talk:24.242.28.135|are]] [[User talk:220.239.8.173|encouraged]] [[User talk:220.239.8.173|to]] [[User talk:68.145.103.189|create]] [[User talk:72.128.106.87|an]] [[User talk:68.63.159.4|account]]. I myself was invited to join in the same manner.
:::Both you and Antisexy seem to be convinced that this editor is being unfairly beaten down by the Big Bad Wiki Machine. You don't even bother to look at the actual edits and judge them on their merits. Antisexy does at least attempt to address the edits specifically, but he's basing his arguments on what was written here on this talk page as opposed to what was put in the article. So let's look at the diffs themselves:
:::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487612&oldid=487314 Rev 487612}}: Meh, maybe this could have been reworded rather than being removed outright, but as written it's not really accurate. The game is actually played entirely through pictures, not another language per se. The Russian is just a red herring.
:::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487270&oldid=485380 Rev 487270}}: Never mind the fact that auction has [[Some Type of Online Auction|its own page]], "What is up, my main man?" is not the same as "Mobile is the future, my main man!". "My main man" is a common enough phrase (and ''Man with the Screaming Brain'' is an obscure enough movie) that I firmly believe it's a coincidence. If you convince enough people otherwise, or that the coincidence itself is worth noting, then we'll note it, but if not then we've got to draw the line ''somewhere''. Maybe you think a lot of speculation is good for articles. I, however, think it just waters them down.
:::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I '''did''' look up the actual edits and considered how well they fit in the article. I didn't see what was so wrong with them. The latter more so than the former, though.
::::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487612&oldid=487314 Rev 487612}}: "The game recreates the trial-and-error aspects and confusion of playing games in another language." Pretty much exactly what I thought when I first played it. There's certainly a lot of trial and error in figuring out how to play this game. And although there's no Russian during the actual gameplay, the Russian before and after adds greatly to the confusion. Heck, after the game was over, I wasn't even sure if I'd won or not.
::::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487270&oldid=485380 Rev 487270}}: This one is so minor, that even if it was intentional, it doesn't really ''need'' to be noted. I've never heard of ''Man With the Screaming Brain''. And "mobile is the future, my main man" seems like a common enough phrase. But if it '''is''' an exact quote, and in the movie, they '''are''' talking about a Russian, that I think that'd be to much for just a coincidence. (Or is the line in the movie just "my main man?" If so, yeah, this is bogus.) If it were to be mentioned, it would be better here than on the [[Some Type of Online Auction|STOA]] page, unless we make a separate page for the manual and the auction thereof (which would be silly).
::::[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 20:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::I'd be unhappy with the first fact, because it's basically speculation. Yes, some people see the connection when they play the game, and I can definitely see this being true. But we don't know if that was the actual intention of TBC, so it's a bit too bold to claim that it is. What we usually do is note this on the talk page, as we've now done. As for the second fact, there is currently only one Google result for the phrase in question [http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22mobile%20is%20the%20future%2C%20my%20main%20man%22]. I haven't seen the movie myself, but it doesn't seem to be a quote from anywhere.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I am the one who reverted the "my main man" fact and i stand by it. To add to what loafing said, the phrase "my main man" has over [http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=%22my+main+man%22&btnG=Search&meta= 224,000 google hits], hence showing it to be a common phrase and not based on that movie. Furthermore, to Nsayer and whoever else, I judge edits based on content and content alone. There have been many times when [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=rock_opera&diff=prev&oldid=479069 I've] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Cardboard_Marzipan&diff=prev&oldid=467397 reverted] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=DNA_Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=456825 even] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=dangeresque_3&diff=prev&oldid=478669 the] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=mini-golf&diff=prev&oldid=488970 more] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=marzipan&diff=prev&oldid=487197 experienced] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quality_Time&diff=prev&oldid=487136 users]. So please stop getting all bent out of shape about your edits not getting in, and please continue to edit, and if the content is deemed good by the community, I guarantee you it will stay. Nothing to get discouraged about. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::..groan.. It's always gotta be "actual intentions," does it? Actually, I didn't really notice where this (the one about the game being hard to understand) was originally placed. It ''is'' a bit to speculative for the summary, but wouldn't be okay under Remarks??--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 21:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::If we say "The game recreates..." or anything of the like, wouldn't you think that we strongly imply that this was intentional?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, but confusion is such an obvious element in this game, how can not be intentional? Are we only debating whether or not the foreign language was an intended to add to the confusion? It seems very likely to me.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 21:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Just to get the "mobile is the future, my main man" bit out of the way, as best as I can tell, the entire phrase is a TBC original, and it only shares "my main main" with the movie. A connection isn't impossible, but it's a stretch. We seem to be in agreement on that. Regarding the other part, we're just talking about a description at the top, not so much a fun fact. We've got a bit of latitude to say what we want. Part of the humor of the game is that you have to figure out what the crap is going on, which I believe is completely intentional, and we should comment on it if it can be worded concisely. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::So it's all down to the wording, is that it? How about "The Russian text in the game is intended to confuse the player, but the game itself is played almost entirely through pictures." (eh, not too good). If we ''can'' word it efficiently, I think we should also have the reader refer to the Translations section. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Hmm... Well, I went up to read the opening summary as it is now to see how we might be able to fit all that in, but now that I look at it, the direct quote from Videlectrix does a pretty good job at summing up confusion and foreign language/bad translation. So then... I guess it's fine as is. I still think the original edit "The game recreates the trial-and-error aspects and confusion of playing games in another language" would look nice and pretty in remarks, but I guess I'm the only one.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 22:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Meh, it seems to obvious for a full-fledged remark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

==Russian dialogue==
Why is the dialogue in Russian? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 07:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Why not? =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Tron ==

Does anyone think that [[:Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Mechanic.png|one of the men]] is Tron? I think he looks a lot like a pixelated version of him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:no way to really tell. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
::I disagree with both of you. I think it's easy to tell that he doesn't look like Tron all that much at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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The '''Sketchbook''' is a collection of conceptual art and sketches by [[The Brothers Chaps]]. These are found by clicking on the ''S'' at the top of the [[Main Pages]], and are generally updated on Thursdays. Here is a list of all the sketches from {{CURRENTYEAR}}.

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|[[Image: SK2008-02-14.png|200px|the cheat relatives?]] || 14 Feb 2008 || the cheat relatives? || A sketch showing [[The Cheat]], The Embezzlement, and The Counter Feit. Inspired by [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#WF-2008-02-14|14 Feb 2008 Weekly Fanstuff]].

|-id="SK-2008-02-07"
|[[Image:Sketchbook 2-7-08.png|200px|questionable body hair]] || 07 Feb 2008 || questionable body hair || A hairy version of [[Strong Mad]].

|-id="SK-2008-01-31"
|[[Image:Sketchbook 1-31-08.png|200px|gel-arshie]] || 31 Jan 2008 || gel-arshie || A sketch of [[Fluffy Puff Mascots#Gel-arshie|Gel-arshie]] from [[winter pool]].

|-id="SK-2008-01-24"
|[[Image:Sketchbook 1-24-08.png|200px|buck webb & lady fan]] || 24 Jan 2008 || buck webb & lady fan || Sketches of the "[[Buck Webb, Extraordinaire]]" comic that appeared in [[lady fan]].

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|[[Image:Sketchbook 1-17-08.png|200px|make sense time!]] || 17 Jan 2008 || make sense time! || A picture of [[Homestar Runner]] as [[Teeg Dougland]]'s left and right hands (or possibly Teeg as Homestar's leg), as well as a sketch of Homestar running underwater with fish. Teeg has the word "POOH" on his shirt.

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|[[Image:Sketchbook 1-10-08.png|200px|d'th'ween thupreme]] || 10 Jan 2008 || d'th'ween thupreme || [[Decemberween|Decemberween'd]] version of the [[Thnikkaman]] as a giant (a la [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]]).

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* The font used in the captions is [[Fonts#Bauhaus 93|Bauhaus 93]].
* Sketchbook entries often feature ideas considered for or used in toons that had been recently released.
* If you click the "s" button repeatedly while it is still loading, the caption will move up the box. The more times you click it, the farther the text will move.
* Until August 9, 2007, the Sketchbook of June 21, 2007 had not been updated for seven weeks, the longest hiatus between pop-up updates on record.

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*[[Secret_Pages_XML_Source#Weeklies_XML_File|Secret Pages XML Source]]

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== Guitar Tabs? ==

Someone posted a guitar tab for [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]. Should we extend this into a semi-project to put guitar tabs on all the songs on [[Strong Bad Sings]] with guitar/bass parts? If so, I call I get to tab [[Moving Very Slowly]]! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think this is a very worthwhile project. But then, I'm not a guitar enthusiast. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Well, Lapper, we ARE supposed to document Homestar Runner. Why not do guitar tabs? Just don't go crazy and do the SBLOUNSKCHED! theme song. Also, I don't think you can call doing something, Martyo. If you want to do it, just do it. Dibs are for [[Wikipedia:Riding shotgun|cars]] and [http://dibs.dreyers.com/ ice cream], not wikis. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Bluebry, the only reason I called it is because if we decide to do this (which we haven't yet) a bunch of transcribers are going to want to tab out songs (and some non-transcribers might do some googling to find tabs) and I don't want to miss out on a song I know how to play. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::If people want to do tabs, I think it's a great idea! That's good information that a lot of people might be interested in. That said, I tend to think it would be better to keep the tabs on a separate page, in general. I can see some of them getting kind of long, and the average person just trying to read about a given song shouldn't have to scroll through screens of guitar tabs. So, I propose that they be kept on a separate page and linked to. This way, they're easily accessible to the people who want to see them, but unobtrusive to those who don't. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I moved the guitar tab for Trogdor to [[Trogdor (song)/Tablature]] and linked to it in a "See Also" section of [[Trogdor (song)]] Before we move forward, is this what we want to do, or should we do it differently? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, having tabs would be awesome. I'd like to play [[different town]], for example. What should the naming scheme be? [[Trogdor (song)/Tablature]] is somewhat ugly. What about [[Trogdor Tablatures]], just like we do for the visuals?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Or [[Tablature: Trogdor]]. 'S perfect! Also, should we link in a see also? What about in the Detailed information area? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Having a separate namespace might be a ''little'' extreme, but I kinda like it. I'ma wait and see what others think. As for linkage, Detailed Info seems like a better way to go. That way, people don't have to search the page for a link. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe possibly maybe. Also, should we include download links for things like [http://www.power-tab.net/ Power Tab]? Or will men in black fedoras grab us for copyright violation? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Power Tab's certainly got MY approval. Most of the tabs I transcribe ARE in Power Tab. I don't see how someone could sue us for linking to their product :P. So, yeah. Power Tab = Awesome. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Also, where it says Bass, I think you should actually put the bass tablature on there. I'm sure it'll help newbies and be more professional looking to all. :-) SMILEYS ARE GREAT! {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I was just wonderin, if we will have all these tabs for songs, don't we need a page with a list of all the songs that have been tabed and link to the tabliture? If we do, i will start work on it immediately.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 23:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::We do. Trey made a category.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh man, i wanted to do it.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 23:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Undo summary ==

The undo function has proved quite popular. There's one aspect of it, however, that I don't really like: the way the username is included in the summary, forever recorded that the user was reverted. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels like a vandal rollback, which is kind of a slap in the face. (As a side note, I'm also concerned that the undo function is being used for simple reverts of the last edit; I feel like its primary purpose is to surgically fix something a few lines down in the history.) I'd like to remove the username from the automatic summary, so that a typical undo looked like this: ''(undid revision 000000; reason for the undoing)'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I agree 100% — I think it's unsettling to see one's name in the automatic part of the summary. Perhaps this is because of the similarity to the automatic summaries from the rollback feature, which is used almost exclusively to revert vandalism. I think the automatic summary for the undo feature should be revised as you propose. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::Yes. Better this way. The username in the summary is really off-putting: the effect to me seems rather like pointing a finger at another user and saying "you made this edit I undid". I'm not saying anyone ''meant'' to say this, but I do think that's the effect. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Makes sense, although if someone reverts vandalism, it might be good for the ops to be able to see at a glance who to block (yes i know they can check the history) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I actually don't particularly mind, although Dot com has noted previously that it peeves him to have his name in an edit summary not preceded by "reply to". I, personally, don't mind having my name being shown as the one being reverted, as long as there's a solid edit summary following. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::I would have thought that the current text is fine. But with people constantly using it to revert the last edit instead of undoing older edits, I wholeheartedly agree with Dot com's suggestion. It will also make edit summaries shorter and easier to read.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:::What if "revision 000000" automagically created a link to the edit (technically speaking, "&diff=prev&oldid=000000"), like this:
::::''(undid {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=492115 revision 492115}}; forum-style post)''
:::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Shouldn't we squeeze a timestamp in there? It could be as small as "8.24, 15:26", but I'd like to see when that undone revision was made, if possible. (undid {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=492115 revision 492115}} (8.24, 15:26); forum-style post). — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I thought stuff like that is recorded in RC; that is, the "diff" link is a link to the revert, and RC already tracks the time and date of ''all'' edits. I'm in favor of the plain ''(undid revision 000000; vandalism)'' — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Lapper: We don't record timestamps of the undone edit ''now'', and we do just fine. There isn't an easy mechanism to add them, either. It could be done, of course, but it would involve reworking more than a line or two of code, which is all it would take to add the link (and clicking on the link will show the old edit, including the timestamp and the editor). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like Dot Com's idea, that is link with no timestamp. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Me too.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm in. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've implemented the changes. After a little time has passed, please comment on whether you think it's an improvement. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's a good idea! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
It's been a week since the new format, and I've got nothing against it. Nice and simple, and it doesn't incriminate the revertee as strongly. Great jorearb. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:I actually disagree. I thought it was a good idea, but now I see that this edit summary is less helpful. It doesn't give any context. When it still included the user name, one could guess which edit was meant just by looking at the history. That number isn't helpful in the least (unless you mouseover the links in the history and compare those 6-digit numbers - which I certainly don't do). I would prefer edit summaries like "undid edit 123456 by Stupid_ol'_Loaf".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
::If you click on the revision number it leads you to the exact edit. And I'd argue that in all edits, it's up to the editor to provide context, not the system. Havin g the system make it easier for an editor to be lazy - is that what we want? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, it's much better! this is awesome! {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== So what exactly is the "trusted user list"? ==

I noticed a few times, it seems that somewhere, this Wiki has a trusted user list, or so I saw while looking around on talk pages. So I was wondering, is it a tangible thing (meaning it actually exists) or is it just in the minds of staff members and such?--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 12:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:There is no list (and there is also no staff). Obviously, some users are trusted more by the community than others, but I don't think anybody would keep a list or something. I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, but I hope this answers your question.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::Is [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 8#Limited editability for user pages|this]] what you are referring to? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I caught up with Slipstream in IRC, that's the page he was talking about... it's all been cleared up now, nothing to worry about. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks for drawing extra attention to a dumb idea i had a long time ago... :( {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::(For those of you who have a hard time reading sarcasm over the internet, that was an example of it.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== Images accessable from both wikis ==

I contribute a lot to both of our HRWikis (the fanstuff being the other). However, I find it quite difficult that a lot of images that would be useful on the Fanstuff wiki are only hosted on the knowledge base. Someone with server side privelages might be able to make an image uploaded on one wiki accesable by the other. Sorta like Wikimedia Commons, where you upload it there, and it can be accessed by all the wikimedia projects. I would find it very easy. Tell me what you think! {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think that's an awesome idea, but I don't have server [[privaleges]]. It' up to like It's dot com or somebody like that. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::It is technically possible to do this, but relatively speaking there are so few images that are used on both wikis that the costs outweigh the benefits at this time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Exactly. There's literally no need to put forth the effort to make a commons, as HRWiki and HRFWiki really have nothing much in common that way. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I personally see value in keeping the two distinct, and that value is enjoyed on both sides. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I see the merit in allowing this, but isn't Commons a separate wiki? That means we would have to set ''another'' wiki up, migrate ''all'' the existing images from both the HRWiki and the HRFWiki to it, and force a redirect to said wiki whenever someone tries to upload another image. Sounds like too much of a waste of time, especially considering the amazingly small amount of images that actually have a point in being cross-linked. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Commons ''is'' in fact a separate wiki. That fact alone means that they could've used the english wikipedia (or in this case the HRWiki) to make the image-copying magic. It is made separate for clarity and to avoid confusion, not necessarily for technical reasons. That said, it ''is'' a lot of work to do for what may not be used all that much. At best some script could be created to extract images from the HRwiki into the fanstuff. But again, that's a bit of work and its implementation would depend on demand/benefit and an available programmer. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, we wouldn't have to put ''all'' images in Commons. 'Kipedia doesn't do that either. But I agree with Dot com and Qermaq: Only very few images would actually be shared between us and the fanstuff, making it not worth the effort. Also, I strongly argue to keep both wikis as separate as possible, content-wise. It will get messy if we don't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Preserve birthday card(s) as part of the history? ==

Okay guys, [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive_8#Preserve_birthday_card_as_part_of_the_history|we've come to that bridge and crossed it]]. Now it's time to ask the big question: Do we make a page for [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish/Talk Archive Mike Chapman's Card|Mike's card]]? I don't see why not. I already created a [[:Category:Mike's Birthday Card Images|category]] for the images. This, I think, is useful whether we make a page or not. Anywho, what have ye all to say? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah. I think we should. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 18:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, I started a [[HRWiki:Mike's 2007 birthday card|not so good article]] covering it (made before the world ended, and submitted after it came back up ;) ). Extra info would be most welcome. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Count increment broken ==

Okay, for some reason the #count+''increment'' and #resetcount [[HRWiki:Counter|parser tags]] don't seem to be working properly. (At least not from my machine -- which I seriously doubt is an issue, since it's all done server side, right?). I first found the problem in the QOW page, and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506429&oldid=506426 have}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506433&oldid=506432 tried}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux/sandbox&diff=506435&oldid=506434 different things}} to assess the situation and try to find a workaround. However, I've come to the following conclusions (from my observations):
#The #resetcount tag is not resetting the counts for any value (except maybe to zero)
#The ''increment'' parameter in the #count tag seems to behave in some strange way
#All the count examples in the documentation still seem to work correctly (confusing me more).
As such, I am completely baffled by this behavior. Even all the names match! Maybe It's the spaces? I don't know. This is weird. Help! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:I think it may have been a formatting issue. Does {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=506872&oldid=506371 this change}} fix the issue? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Stux, I tweaked the hresetcount template so that it properly resets the visible values on vcount, but other than that these templates and the underlying parser functions seem to be functioning in general as they should. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Ahhh... yeah! Go figure. Leave it to me to create a template, add a feature, and months later, forget all about it that it exists! So yeah, the parser code and templates were working all exactly how they were designed to work :S. It's just my methods of "debugging" were waaay off. Hehe. Ahh programming. Thanks Tom for figuring out what was really wrong with QOW! I can't believe little spaces caused so much trouble. ''Ahh, programming.'' Thanks Dot com for fixing ''hresetcount'' and adding the appropriate documentation to ''vcount''. I will be adding that info to ''hcount'' just in case I forget again. ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, I think it would be better to differentiate vcount from hcount, and not list unused features on hcount. Toward that end, I've listed both templates on hresetcount (and we should consider creating and differentiating vresetcount). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I agree, and creating vresetcount sounds like a good idea. Though doing so would mean having to check all instances where hresetcount is called and see if vresetcount needs to be called. But that shouldn't be too much trouble. For now, I added the technical info back up. I think it's important in the h/vcount pages themselves to clearly state that the two templates work separately (more so with vresetcount). (This, of course, being a bad attempt at reminding ''me'' that their separate functions. ;) ) Ok! now to watch some [[TrogdorCon '97|anime]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== RandomArea ==

I'm starting my own wiki, and when browing extensions, I found Random Area. RandomArea is like the {{tl|homsarquote}}, only it updates the maximum number of quotes by itself. I feel it would be a lot easier for new members to add quotes. [[mw:Extension:RandomArea|Click here for info]]. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 04:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:One of the features of the homsarquotes template is that it only chooses from all the quotes if it's used on the [[Homsar]] page; otherwise, it skips the first two. We could easily make the template use less code, but we set it up that way so that both the rendered list itself and the output of the template would look nice. I appreciate the suggestion, but I think we've got enough eyeballs on that page not to worry about installing anything else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::I understood that when I looked at the template, I knew it before suggesting it. Why does it need to skip the first two? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 16:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Because the first 2 aren't quotes, they're just captions. That template was originally made (and is still used) to prevent edit warring on the [[Homsar]] caption. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Deleted page talk pages ==

So the recent incident with the clapping page got me thinking that maybe we should leave talk pages from deleted pages intact so that future people can see why a page was deleted. It's not always so obvious, i mean granted, a page like "homestar is stupid and dumb" that would be tagged for speedy deletion would not need such a thing even if it somehow developed one, but for pages that actually get discussed i think it would be helpful. (Maybe also have a template for such pages?) Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Agree. It'd be very useful to see the precedents and reasonings and things behind why pages were deleted. Wikipedia keeps their discussion pages, and this is one thing of theirs I think we SHOULD emulate.
:I also like the sound of that template. Something like "This is the talk page of a deleted article. Please do not participate in the existing discussions. If you have something new to say on why this page should be re-created, please start a new section below." Or something with good words. Better words than I can write. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think preserving deletion discussions is a good idea. I kind of wonder why we haven't been already. I also think Dorian's words were fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I support this idea for the sake of preserving discussions. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I like this idea. Here are some possible ideas I came up with for text:
::::*This talk page is an archive of a deleted article. Please do not contribute.
::::*This article this talk page accompanies has been deleted. This talk page has been kept for historical reasons. Please do not contribute.
::::*This talk page is kept for historical reasons, as it once accompanied a page that has been deleted. Please do not contribute.
::::*This is a talk page of a deleted article. Please do not add to the discussions below.

::::Of course, the endings saying not to contribute can apply to all of them. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 23:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I think it is important, though to include a bit like DorianGray's line, "If you have something new to say on why this page should be re-created, please start a new section below." A running gag, for example, may not have enough appearances, but could suddenly acquire more later on, at which point the talk page would be a good place to propose that the article be recreated. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::Here's a model of what it could look like: {{tl|deletedtalk}}. It could perhaps use some improvement. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::It looks alright... we might want to edit the style a bit, but the wording seems fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I like it, too. I changed the wording [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:deletedtalk&diff=516770&oldid=515578 a little]. Maybe we should change the image to something like [[:Image:deleted.PNG|this]]? We also need to find a way to easily distinguish between archived section and currently open threads. But yes, we should definitely use this template.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Reviving? ===
Okay, since this looks like a promising idea, i also have a question about old talk pages. If we decide that this is a good idea, do we (and by WE i mean some sysop) go back and revive all the old talk pages, or is this only for the future? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:On second thought, a bot could be made to do such a thing. Still, would we? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::How would a bot know the difference between a talk page where a deletion discussion occurred and one where it didn't? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::first of all, if there IS a talk page, then it probably means it was discussed, as speedy deletion pages get deleted quickly and don't usually end up with talk, secondly, it could search for "<nowiki>'''delete'''</nowiki>", as there tends to be at least one instance of that on every deletion discussion. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There are probably a lot more deleted talk pages with no discussion than you think. Consider all the talk pages that were page-move vandalism redirects from the Willy on Wheels days. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::That's why i also suggested searching for bolded delete. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't think it's necessary for anyone (or a bot) to bother undeleting ''all'' such pages, since we've gotten along without them fine up to now. If there is an individual case where restoring an old discussion would be relevant, then we can do so as the case presents itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Another idea would be to write a script that searches the deleted pages' history (preferably in all namespaces) and finds any use of the {{tl|tbd}} template and creates a list of pages that were very likely part of the normal deletion process. This would elminate 99%+ of all the unwanted vandalism-created pages. The list can then be eyeballed for obvious undesirables, and auto-revived. The rest of the interested community can then re-tag those pages (and mark any that should be re-deleted). How hard would implementing this sound? What kind of interest would be in this idea? What do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::All of that is technically possible, but I think our focus is elsewhere right now. I maintain that restoring pages on an as-needed basis is the most practical way to go. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we need to make a template to put on all talk pages that have the accompanying article deleted. That way we have a way to find them, through a category. I don't like seeing my orphan talk pages be all willy-nilly! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:Erm... you mean {{tl|deletedtalk}} and its accompanying [[:Category:Talk pages of deleted articles|category]]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::Presactly. I haven't edited for a week and I got really lazy. Didn't even notice it's in the section above this. I'm slipping... —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Tsk, tsk. I had to reread your post twice because I thought ''*I*'' was making some mistake in reading it. What happened to your good ol' sharp self? Though if it wasn't for your post, it wouldn't have occurred to me to go back and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:toga_yoga&diff=prev&oldid=515324 tag}} toga yoga as deleted after ''someone'' who shall remain nameless *Cough*Dot Com*Cough* missed adding it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Hmm? I didn't know we'd decided to go with that template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, my apologoies! From looking at the template use and this discussion I simply ''assumed'' that it had become official. That's what I get for trying to be somewhat "funny". Sorry Dot com. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I assumed so, too. I only just noticed that the discussion for the template is actually in the section above...{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Birthday cards for TBC ''et al.'' ==

For reference, I've copied the following conversation from [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]]:
<blockquote>
Hey IRF,

How 'bout we make a card for Missy when her birthday rolls around? I can imagine she's feeling pretty left out right now. Besides, she's just as important as the Brothers Chaps. If you already have one in the works, lemme know. If you don't, talk to me, and I'd be happy to help you organize it and get it together.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}} 23:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:I have noticed that she hasn't got a card yet. I agree. Let's make a card for Missy! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

::I'm glad to see that there are others that want to do this. I want to mention 3 things: #1) I am about to go a 2 week vacation and will be out of contact for awhile (for Missy we have some time). #2) Matt's birthday is coming up much sooner that Missy's. #3) I have had the honor and privilidge of doing this twice now. I don't think it would be fair for me to hog this. Out of this experience I have had the opportunity to talk [[Karen Wagner]] a few times, which was awesome. I must also talk about access. I am not a sysop so the fact that I was trusted with the address to send things to the TBC is very rare. I think the less people that know such information, the bigger blessing that we can be as awhole to TBC. The LAST thing that we want is for sensitive information to be given to the wrong person (and I'm not imply that any of you are the wrong person) and TBC get tons of <s>fan-mail</s> crap in the mail. For these reasons, I think it best for a sysop or duly chosen user by the sysops to take the helm on this. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, Matt already got a card, but Missy hasn't; I say we put her as the top priority for the moment. I see your point with the Brothers Chaps' mailing address. Not everyone could/can be trusted with valuable info like that. If that info was put in the wrong hands or was somehow leaked, TBC would be flooded with mail, and you, me, Sam, and anyone else involved would take the fall, maybe the whole Wiki, even. Maybe{{User:Loafing/sig}} could be trusted with that. After all, he is a sysop.{{User:Homestarmy_Commando1/sig}}19:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Loafing lives in New Zealand. It wouldn't be practical to ship something from there. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 10:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, let's get a sysop in the States to spearhead that. I really want to help with Missy's card, so I'll feel useful and get some recognition out of it. Do you have any ideas? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
::::::I suggest that you ask a sysop {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::HC1: As I said on my page, if you're looking for something to do there are a lot of projects (see [[HRWiki:The Stick]]) that are more practical than this. (Do we even know her birthday?) Furthermore, anything being sent on behalf of the wiki would have to go through an administrator (Joey, Tom, or me), not just a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
</blockquote>

So far, we have sent Matt and Mike physical birthday cards, and Invisible Robot Fish did an incredible job putting both of these together.

As seen above, there's some interest in continuing do something for Matt's, Mike's, and perhaps others', birthdays. I think there are a few questions we should discuss in this vein:
#Whose birthdays should we honor as a wiki?
#What should we do in the future when we want to send birthday wishes?
#Who should take charge of these projects?

<nowiki>#1</nowiki> is clearly constrained by our knowledge of when people's birthdays are. As far as I can tell, we know when Matt's and Mike's birthdays are, but that's it. And I think that's a good place to stop. Yes, Missy does the voice of Marzipan, but there are others who do just as much or more for Homestar Runner (Karen Wagner, Ryan Sterritt, etc.) — we have to draw the line somewhere, and I think stopping at Matt and Mike is a good point (especially since we don't know anyone else's birthday!).

In regard to #2, I don't think we should do the same thing if we decide to do something for Matt or Mike's birthdays again. If we keep sending them giant birthday cards, I think the idea will get stale pretty quickly. Maybe we want to do something else in the future, but I think we should think of a different idea.

Finally, with respect to #3, IRF put a great deal of work into the past birthday cards. As he has indicated above, he'd like somebody else to take the helm of future projects, and I agree that it would be very unfair for us to expect him to put in the huge amount of work necessary to send out one of these again. Also, as IRF and It's dot com mentioned in the above quoted text, any communication sent by the wiki as a whole ought to go through the bureaucrats — Joey, Dot com, or Tom — for obvious reasons we should limit the spread of TBC's contact information as much as possible.

Any thoughts about any of these points? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said above. I'm sorry for getting this whole stupid snowball rolling in the first place. I was feeling a little egoistic at the time of the first post. I guess I just needed someone to talk some sense into me. This does seem a little big for a meager user like me. Let's just go back to the way it was before my idea. Anyone else agree? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}

::Oh, I hope you don't take any of the above comments as directed against you. I thought you brought up a good suggestion — one worth discussing :) You're a good user and have nothing to apologize for :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Trey. That made me feel better. I just thought you were backing up It's dot com and making me feel worse. But you do bring up some good points above. {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
::::It was not my intention to make you feel bad, simply to point out that there are things we need done more than this, and, like Trey, question whether we wanted to continue doing this at all. It's also my responsibility to make sure anyone who wants to send anything to TBC ''on behalf of the wiki'' knows they have to go through us. I know I come across as a killjoy, but whattayagonnado. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Coup d'état? But seriously, I think it's best we only send happy birthday wishes to TBC. Don't want to go down the same slope Google did when they started doing logos for holidays no one's ever heard of. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I've seen {{p|l=http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html those}}. But also, I think TBC were happy when they got their own birthday poster. It may make them feel not as special (I don't have a better word) if we sent a poster card to every member of their family. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Would some sort of mass "Thank you" card directed specifically at the supporting staff (by name) be too tacky? Something that says "hey we really, ''really'', '''''really''''' appreciate all the work that you do to support TBC." Or something along those lines. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Specifically considering the creative and performance impact Missy has on the product, I would be in favor of including her in the birthday wishes in the event she chooses to disclose her birthday to the media or to us. Short of that, she is clearly wishing that date to remain a secret, and we have no plce infringing on that. Other than individuals actively invilved in creating the toons (Mike Matt and Missy, essentially) no others should be included as a matter of course. A 30th or 40th birthday, when known, might prove the exception. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:That is a very good point. Celebrating Missy's birthday would be cool! At best, since we don't know it, we could celebrate her ''un''birthday! We'd have a 364 in 365 chance of getting it right this year, and 365 in 366 chance of getting it right <s>this</s> next year! Not a terribly great idea but seems fun. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::Eeee. When a woman does not disclose her birthday, that means we should not acknowledge it. It would not be an appreciated move to force a birthday on her without her consent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Halloween theme ==

Is there a CSS file for the halloween skin? I really like it, and was considering using it for MySkin. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, if you go to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=history Common.css's history], you will see that is was manually modified. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::DorianGray likes to celebrate Halloween all year 'round. If you copy his [[User:DorianGray/monobook.css|monobook.css]] page into [[Special:Mypage/monobook.css|your own]], you can too! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== What HRWiki is not ==

More of a question than a suggestion, but do we have any policies or pages on [[Wikipedia:WP:NOT|what HRWiki is not?]] There seems to be a volume of new users who register thinking this is some kind of social network rather than a collaborative encyclopedia. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 00:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki:User space#What should I avoid?]] touches on the subject. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::But that does not cover it. I think there should be one. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::That section in the userspace rules does address my main concern, that users don't know HRWiki isn't a social network, but I think we should make sure newbies know more about what they're getting into, or more accurately, what they're ''not'' getting into. I doubt users planning on registering know about userspace until ''after'' they create the account, then they think "Oh, I can have my own page?" and begin to treat it like some Homestar-themed Myspace. (That was what I thought when I was young and stupid, anyway.) We should make it more clear that that isn't what we are, and if we do create a new page for this it should encompass other misconceptions (I think that's the right word) as well: we aren't a paper encyclopedia, so growth of our project is virtually unlimited; we aren't adspace, while it's fine to promote one's own website, one must do so only within his or her own userspace; we aren't a soapbox, while it is occasionally necessary to give long speeches on a subject, it must remain relevant to our project of focus and we don't allow opinionated speeches on current events or politics or attitudes of self-promotion; and, of course, we aren't any of a number of [[Wikipedia:WP:BEANS|terrible ideas]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 13:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I know that this idea has been tossed around for several years, but for some reason we've never decided to act on it. Why don't you write something up, and we'll see where it goes from there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::You mean this has been suggested before? If so, I'd like a link; I think I should see how that discussion turned out before I start drafting. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if it's ever been suggested on the wiki itself, but I know it's been talked about before (I can find it in my chat logs at least as far back as 28 January 2006). I'd go ahead with a draft. If you don't want to spend a lot of time on it, it could be a very rough draft, just enough for us to get the general idea and determine if we want to keep going. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I didn't plan to make it lengthy yet, I'm just going to sort of list as many main ideas as I can think of and write brief descriptions of each. I'll put the draft on [[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT]]. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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[[User:SamFisher1022/HRW:NOT|The draft]] is done. Or it's at least been dormant long enough. I'm ready to hear what you all think. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

== Upload help ==

Uploading images is becoming a common question among new users, and to my knowledge, we don't have a Help page for uploads. Somewhere on that page (somewhere obvious, like at the top), we should state exactly what "autoconfirmed" accounts refer to: accounts that have been active for a certain amount of time. Also, more of us need to know what that certain amount of time is. I was told it was 48 hours, but [[User:TheGirl|TheGirl]] successfully uploaded her first image after about 38 hours. Does it vary with server load or something? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

:Honestly, I don't think we need an page to help with uploads; the upload page itself has plenty of information on how to do it. And as for auto-confirmation, only a note would be necessary. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, maybe a whole page is too extreme, but still, how long does autoconfirm take? If we add that to the [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I upload an image?|FAQ]], it should help tremendously. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Most likely 27 hours, if Dot com didn't change it. Just like I said on TheGirl's talk page. w00t. You can add a mention to FAQ about having to be autoconfirmed to upload an image, but we decided that the exact length of time should be an open secret. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::::It's 28 hours. That number [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 8#Semi-protection implemented|hasn't changed]], either. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles viewer on sidebar ==

As most people know, on all toons, there is a link in the sidebar for the Subtitles namespace. However, someone like me, who uses Safari and can't use Greasemonkey, uses the subtitles viewer. If we put a link to the subtitles viewer there too, below the namespace links, that would add to convience. I know it is possible, I've done something similar on my wiki. What do you think? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 21:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== New Template Categories ==

Thanks to the recent wiki software update, we now have the [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates]] page. Our goal should be to keep this list as small as possible, and while some of the templates listed can be added to existing categories, some just don't fit into any. So I suggest new categories to hold these "miscellaneous" pages. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

=== HRWiki Finances ===
:''From [[Template talk:SitenoticeDonationsLine]]
<blockquote>
I want to categorize this page to help clear the [[Special:Uncategorizedtemplates|Uncategorized Templates]] list, but I can't seem to find a category to fit it in. If this does fit somewhere, I'd really appreciate if someone could add the cat to the page; if not, perhaps we should have a category that includes HRWiki's money-related pages: [[HRWiki:Donations]], [[HRWiki:Ledger]], and this. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)</blockquote>

=== Transcript Templates ===
To keep with the [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and only Once]] policy, the transcripts for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and [[Crazy Cartoon]] are written on template pages and added to their respective pages. I think we should have a category for transcript templates to house these and any more if we make more in the future. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
::I second! er... third? one-hundred-seventy-three-thousand-three-hundred-twenty-fifth? something... i agree also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

=== STUFF Templates ===
The [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] system has a lot of templates. Instead of categorizing them all as Notice or Formatting templates, I think it would be better to keep them all together in one category (though it may not hurt to add them to more than one category). — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== HRWiki:Bulletin Board ==

{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} came up with an idea that we could have a page called HRWiki:Bulletin Board that would function as a site-wide message board for to-do items, projects, and other stuff. I, personally, think that this is a great idea. Discuss. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Um, just so you know, there already exists a [[HRWiki:Projects|projects]] page that kinda does what you described. Unless the idea envisioned is radically different from this page, you should check it out. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::It's not radically different, but we do know about that. Techgeek should feel free to chime in here. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what you described was basically exactly what [[HRWiki:Projects]] is. I'm agreeing with Stux completely. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question ==

Yeah, I don't know if this is the place to ask questions like this, though I guess it will serve to help me find out, but anyway, is there an automatic way to get the little gray text that says the section you're editing in the edit summary? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 21:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:Clicking the [edit] next to the subject will automatically do it, but you can hack it in by adding <code>/* Your Text Here */</code> to your edit summary. The [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] would've been a better place to ask, by the way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism Counters: More trouble than they're worth? ==

I've noticed quite a few times that someone vandalized a page that normally the would not have done, except to change the vandalism counter, essentially "killing two birds with one stone". (there was one that i noticed that actually had that as the summary, i wish i could find it.) Here are a couple of examples: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Sysrq868&diff=523895&oldid=515622&rcid=480603] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:BazookaJoe&diff=prev&oldid=482310] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:BazookaJoe&diff=prev&oldid=152598] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

:I understand that people've had these for a while, and a lot of great users have 'em, but I've thought for a while that they're unhelpful. Maybe it's 'cause I don't understand what they're for — why is it important to advertise how much your user page has or hasn't been vandalized? The only time I really notice them is when people come along and vandalize the page by increasing the counter, and then I'm never sure if I should actually revert them! ;)

:This said, I'm not sure that we need a rule prohibiting them (the last thing we need is another rule and to have to go around informing everyone that has one that it must be removed), but I would personally prefer if people didn't have them. On the other hand, the edits you've mentioned happen pretty rarely (once every couple months or so), and since users editing other users' pages are easy to spot, they're easy to revert. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Trey56. We should not have a rule prohibiting them (really, what do you care?), but rather... discourage them. Only reason I have one is because it's pretty much the only interesting part in my userpage.

::As for these curious edits, if the vandal edits the counter appropriately (adding one), then it shouldn't be reverted, but a warning at the talk page would be in place. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 14:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I've also always wondered about whether to revert them, and when i do, the next edit is usually the owner of the userpage in question reverting me... Oh well... Anyway, i wasn't suggesting a hardcore RULE against them, just bringing up that people might want to reconsider having them, that's all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's in the interest of the wiki to have users maintain what amount to vandalism scoreboards on their user page. It seems clear there won't be concensus to have any policy changes regarding them, but I'm thinking they actually promote vandalization. And the only purpose in telling people this on userpage that I can think of is to say "I'm cool enough to have been vandalized a lot" which we don't need to be doing. Unless someone knows a different reason, to which I am all ears. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I agree that vandalism counters only encourage vandalism. They also imply that it is some kind of honour to have one's user page vandalized. Since when do we believe that vandals have any kind of good judgment? I'm not sure they should be prohibited outright, but they should definitely be discouraged.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'm with Loafing. It's obvious that vandalism counters don't serve any purpose, and though the users that have them may not treat them like trophies, that's what they do look like. I don't know if we could ''completely'' prohibit them, but that's what we should aim for. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sorting [[:Category:Articles for Discussion|Articles for Discussion]] by time since flagged ==

I often get the feeling that articles end up sitting in this category for a substantial amount of time. I think we can benefit from being able to see how long an article has been under deliberation at a glance. So I'd like to propose a small change to {{tl|tobediscussed}}:

<code>[[Category:Articles for Discussion|{{A ParserFunction to calculate today's week minus the week it was added}}]]</code>

If not, perhaps it could be added to the template inline. It's just a proposal, after all. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:<code>[[Category:Articles for Discussion|{{A ParserFunction to calculate today's week minus the week it was added}} {{PAGENAME}}]]</code> is better, so we have the name there also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If I understand the functioning of mediawiki correctly, the parser function only gets evaluated when the page is rendered: that is after an edit or a purge. That means that stale pages (those that weren't edited since the tag was added) will be stale (showing that the tag was added the same week). Moreover, all that would provide would be a number from 0-9 (or a letter from a-z or A-Z), which is why WP has specific categories for each month when tags were added. (At least it does for cleanup and source tags, not sure about delete). This wiki is so small, dated categories wouldn't be very helpful I think. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sig Box ==

Ok, our sig mantra is "it must fit in the box". However, innumerable examples exist where a sig will be in the box on one computer and not on another. The reason is the box is sized in pixels, while text is generally (optimally) sized in ems. The two measurements do not relate to each other in any regular way. Plus, replaced fonts and other crazy stuff browsers do really introduce surprises into the mix. So it's impossible to guarantee that any sig will or will not fit in a pixel box, unless that sig is entirely sized in pixels, which is sub-optimal for web authoring.

So, the question before you all is simply this: do we need to rethink how we conmtrol sig size? And if not, how do we determine when a sig is OK, even when it is oversized on some systems? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:I read "Your total signature size can only be one line, and limited to around 20 or 25 characters." on {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Signature&oldid=446393 HRWiki:Signature}}. The box is just a very helpful tool (the page says "in other words" when it introduces the box), it's not meant to be the primary essence of the rule as the rule is designed not to be terribly exact. See {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Signature&oldid=506829#Length_is_uncontrollable our last discussion of this}}, especially Dot com's last comment which I believe is a very appropriate response. In that regard, are there instances where this is an active problem? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think it bears repeating here:<blockquote>We are not concerned with the fact that, if you really try, you can configure your system to make all signatures violate the policy. What we ''are'' concerned with is how a signature renders on the majority of browsers that are used to visit the wiki under ''normal'' conditions. The pixel definition is a useful tool to help us make a call, and it works well under most circumstances. Any time when it wouldn't work would be so infrequent as to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)</blockquote>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::Wow, that's a trip down memory lane. The text on the page reads "Your total signature size can only be one line, and limited to around 20 or 25 characters. In other words, it must fit inside this box." There's no saying one is more important than the other. It's implied that the two are equivalent, when they simply are not. Dot Com's comments are decidedly vague, actually, and essentially say "we have no strict solution, and will make a call if there's a problem". I'm wondering if there's a way to avoid the ambiguity and use a rule that will apply more universally.

::As far as a current issue, I was clearly moved to comment by [[User talk:Kermit1234/sig#Your sig|this discussion]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If a sig is out by a pixel or even a letter, then it's not that big a deal. We've had the current standard for a while, and it does what it's supposed to do: keep signatures at a manageable length. If a consensus of people think a sig is unreasonably long based how the standard is displayed on their computers, then we say something. (Aftr all, the standard is for people who have to view others' signatures, not their own.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::(after conflict) Regarding that specific situation: If that user is using a font that doesn't appear on most users' systems (and makes his sig that much longer because of it), then we're justified in continuing to say something. The key is, what do most people see when they see his sig? Is there anything (changing fonts, removing images) that can be done to bring the signature to conform to our standard on a majority of users' systems? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

== End of the Year Update ==

Hello guys, another year as come and gone (too fast...) and it's time for another update! I'm guessing all of our stuff is gone, and I know this is done very infrequently, however I went ahead and made a [[User:Stux/Yearly Turnover|checklist]] for this rare event for future generations to enjoy and take advantage of.

However, I would like to point out that {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates&redirect=no H*R.com updates}} has not been updated because it is protected. I updated the talk page (even if the redirect target does not ''yet'' exist). I am writing this for two reasons:
#obviously the redirect needs to be updated
#is there a need for the page to be protected? Any previous threats of vandalism have waned and I know it's generally the wiki's policy to protected unless absolutely necessary, and I currently see no such need.
Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:We should move that checklist somewhere into the project space. The updates page (now a redirect) was [[HRWiki:Protection Log|protected]] because way back in the day it was a target of unwanted edits and vandalism. That reason has ceased to be relevant, so I've unprotected it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Before I move the page into the project namespace, I'm wondering: would a page listing all the checklists be of any use? That is, it would list the [[Talk:Quote of the Week]], [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]], etc. checklists (can't think of others that need to be done). I'm not entirely sure as to the benefit, but it's good to have all checklists have some visibility and ease of access (from anywhere on the wiki). Alternatively, links to the checklists could be added to a '''See Also''' section. I ask because this would determine the page's name. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Category? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Great idea Qermaq! I've created the [[:Category:Checklists|category]] and moved the page to its new [[HRWiki:Annual Checklist|home]]. I'll be making shortcuts, soon! Mmmm shortcake... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

== [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]] linking ==

Hi guys, after {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Annual_Checklist&diff=534194&oldid=534012 adding}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Annual_Checklist&diff=534195&oldid=534194 notes}} to the [[HRW:AC|Annual Checklist]] based on {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Suudsu&curid=14302&diff=534127&oldid=514203 some}} {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=alternate_universe&curid=22046&diff=534095&oldid=531458 edits}} [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]] had to make, I realized there must be a better way to do this. Since [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008]] and [[Sketchbook 2008]] already exist and now redirect to their current counterparts (which should from now one with the checklist in place), and since we have anchor redirects, I think the best course of action would be that any new Weekly Fanstuff and Sketchbook links be constructed as <code><nowiki>[[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#</nowiki>''anchor name here'']]</code>
instead of <code><nowiki>[[Weekly Fanstuff#</nowiki>''anchor name here'']]</code> (and similarly for the Sketchbook). This would save us the trouble of having to scour for these links at the end of the year, yet they'd still work correctly this year. If we decide to follow this idea, how to we make this note prominent so that editors are aware of them when making such links? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Occasionally, I ''do'' make such links when adding or fixing an anchor, or other similar edits. You make a good point, yes. This should probably be done. Nothing wrong with a little future-proofing. Or redirects, for that matter. That's why we have them. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::I've {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H*R.com_updates_2008&diff=535021&oldid=535019 switched}} the links in that page as discussed above. Following [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#.28Don.27t_Fear.29_The_Redirect|this section]] I'm guessing we think it's desirable. Comments? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Two more for the history books ==

Hey guys, I just ran into these two pages: [[HRWiki:Block log]] and [[HRWiki:Upload log]] which like [[HRWiki:Protection log]] and [[HRWiki:Deletion log]] should belong in [[:Category:HRWiki History]], but currently do not. They are all protected so I bring these up here. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== Checklist Sign up Sheet ==

While the [[Talk:Quote of the Week|Weeklies Checklist]] has been kept up beautifully. Other checklists like [[Talk:Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Email]], which has become quite complex, (and [[Talk:Podstar Runner|Podstar Runner]] is new) seem to be falling into some level of disregard. The most visible and common tasks have been taken care of, but the more tedious ones (like updating {{tl|StrongBadEmailInfo}}) may not be taken care of right away. To that end I would like to propose a Weekly Checklist Sign up Sheet whose purpose is ''solely'' to track whether or not one or more users ''verified'' that each item in the checklist (except for [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]]) was updated. This doesn't mean that the user has to update the list. The signature only means that all the items have been "checked off". This would ensure that at least one pair of eyes went methodically through the list making sure no stone was left unturned. Currently, we have no way of knowing if a person actually went through the checklist, or was just trying to remember some steps from memory. I know some people may think is might be too much, but given how complex some of these lists can be, it is soon becoming a necessity. I welcome your opinions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:I have something in the works to help with the Strong Bad Email checklist. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

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==Question==

Why weekly featured articles instead of daily featured articles? We're supposed to feature every article on the site - and we'll do it quicker with daily articles. User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94 06:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Because not every article is up to snuff yet. Also, there is very little to write on some articles, especially [[:Category:Lists|list-based ones]]. Further, we'd probably run out fairly quickly if we did articles every day instead of every week. We only have about 1900. Even if we could find something to write on every article, we'd run out in about 5 years. And then what would we do? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Lucky Yates Show ==

Why are there three non-talk page links to the [[The Lucky Yates Show - 3 Nov 2007|Lucky Yates Show]], but the article had never been created? I would create it, but I've never heard of the Lucky Yates Show. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We don't have any details on the content of the appearance at this time is why. We don't know anyone who was able to attend the show. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't link any red links look good. Could we remove them? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::My take: a red link indicates that we ''should'' have an article about a subject, but nobody's created it yet. I think we should leave them, and hopefully somebody with some information will come across one of those links and create the page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

==Image==
I desperately need to upload an image. What's an autoconfirmed user? Whatever it is, can I please be one so I can upload this image? [[User:Empaire|Empaire]] 08:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hi Empaire. Unless I'm mistaken, you will probably become an autoconfirmed user in the next few hours. Sit tight! Autoconfirmation is just something we do here so that trolls and vandals can't register a username and then immediately start uploading bad images. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 08:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:I'm just curious as to what image it is that desperately needs to be uploaded or the wikiworld will a splode. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 10:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Flickering text/logo ==

The animated logo for Decemberween is making my cursor flicker in and out in the edit box. Why come? -Ein Poltergeist

== Main Page Icon ==

How can you view the icons for different hollidays like the one with red, green, snow, and a hat? (The Wiki Logo in the top left of every page.)--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 20:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
:They are located at {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/wiki-ween.gif wiki-ween.gif}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/wiki-dween.gif wiki-dween.gif}}, and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/wiki-winter.gif wiki-winter.gif}}. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

== Proofreaders? ==

Is anybody going to change the misspelling of Burnination (BurninIation) in the "What's New" frame? It's been there for two days now. Apparently I can't edit it, so this is my only option.
:Fixed. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Podstar Download template... ==

Is there a Podstar Runner download template similar to {{tl|watch}}? I was trying to find one to add to the latest update.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 20:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Currently there isn't. The current template ({{tl|Podstar download}}) is just for creating external links in articles. Also, since podcasts are basically downloadable versions of existing content (and not exactly embedded media), I'm not sure if it's absolutely necessary to include a direct link, especially since both the [[Podstar Runner]] and toon pages would contain links. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::That's the same with sbemails too, and we have that. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 21:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== Recent Toons Template ==

Where do you go to edit the recent toons template? If I can't, here is the problem:

Enviroment is listed as being posted "JANUARY 7, '''2007'''."

-Sbemailnum314159

:Good eye. You can go [[Template:recenttoons|here]] to edit it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

==Unblock==
Why isn't there an unblock template? People who think they have been unfairly blocked might want to ask to be unblocked. [[User:124.180.63.58|124.180.63.58]] 11:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Generally people in this position should post on a sysop's talk page - probably the sysop who blocked them - petitioning their block. Though, to be honest, I have seen very few blocks, if any at all, which have not been entirely reasonable. The few which were not were quickly corrected. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::Note also that, unlike at Wikipedia, our software is not set up to allow blocked users to edit their own talk pages. This means an unblock template wouldn't work here, since a blocked user cannot add it to their talk page. If a user wishes to contest their block, email is one option. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== Has anyone noticed...? ==

Has anyone noticed that when you enter homestarrunner.com there is a trogdor that pops up?
:You were probably the first to notice. Combolations, Elizagerth. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks man

== New Podcast ==

I just downloaded Strong Badathlon through the iTunes feed... I'm too stupid to know how to update anything so I thought I'd add it here. {{User:Rootbeersoup/sig}} 17:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:Sweet, thanks for the notice! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Can someone help me? ==

I can't stay logged in it loggs me out the second I leave the main page. Does anyone know how to fix this?
:Which user are you? This can happen if you close your page without logging on. Happened to me a few times. The thing to do is to log in right now then log out. That does the trick. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I am Gary the legend, and what you said doesn't work.
:First, go to the Main Page. If you see in the top-right corner your username, it will say "log out". Click that. Then, log in again. If you are not logged in, just repeat the same process. Hope that works. 23:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Gary, try making sure you have cookies enabled, in your browser's preferences. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 23:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't work
:Wow. I'm puzzled. Why don't you log in. Then go to your preferences and enable cookies. That should work. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

::Hey Gary, just checking some things: Which browser are you using? Are you sure that you have cookies enabled in your browser before you log on to the wiki?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Also, go through [[Wikipedia:Help:Logging in#Log in problems]] and see if you can fix it using those instructions. Good luck!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::::I'm sorry to keep bothering you guys but for some reason it's not working

:::::Please be more specific and answer the questions. Otherwise, we can't help you. Which browser are you using? Have you made sure that cookies are enabled? Have you tried the suggestion from the Wikipedia help page?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::::::I am useing Internet explorer and yes I tried the thingy on wikipedia And I checked for cookies

:::::::That's odd. I'm sorry, but you'll have to wait for one of our experts to help you out.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:11, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::::::::What version of Internet Explorer are you using? (If you're not sure, it's probably either [[Wikipedia:Image:Internet Explorer 6.png|IE6]] or [[Wikipedia:Image:Windows Internet Explorer 7 Vista.png|IE7]]... look at those and tell me which one looks like what you're using). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

It looks more like Internet Explorer 6...I have a question, does enable mean to get rid of or allow?
:To allow. Or better, [[ahd:61/13/E0121300.html|to make operational; activate]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:11, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I think a while ago we blocked a few cookies with norton anti-virus but is there any way to fix that
:Google finds [http://www.snpo.org/auth/help.php this site], which has some detailed instructions on how to enable cookies in NIS... just replace any mention of "www.snpo.org" with "www.hrwiki.org". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== new update: sale ==

new update: homsar/cardgage sale

==Talk Page Question==
Is there a template you can use to draw people to your user page or talk page? [[User:124.181.26.71|124.181.26.71]] 08:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:No. that would be not useful. To attract users to your userpage and talk page, why not contributing more to the wiki, like doing gnome work. Creating useful pages when sbemails and toons come out. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::Your talk page is not a MySpace or a Facebook, and it is not meant for idle chatter. Use a separate site for that. See [[HRW:TALK]] for what a talk page is really for. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

== Image borders ==

In IE7, I've noticed that when an image on the main page has a height of an odd number of pixels, the bottom portion of the border around it doesn't appear correctly. The image appears to get shifted down a pixel and covers it. I decided to try it in Firefox and the borders all appear fine. But is there any way we can fix that for us die-hard IE users? Still plenty of us around, you know... {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:While I'm sure the developers want to ensure good rendering on all browsers, you must also be aware that IE is notoriously non-compliant with the recommendations of the W3C. As such, some problems may require a lot of work to fix in that one browser, and some may be irrpairable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:15, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Participation ==

How do you get more people to participate in a discussion to delete an article? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== new valentine toon: don't call it old timey! ==

(groan) just because TBC called it "old timey"-which it is- dosn't mean we have to quote them! at LEAST use a heart icon, not homestar's head! SHESH! {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:Plus, shouldn't old-timey toons have old-timey Homestar's head? [[User:69.246.112.55|69.246.112.55]] 01:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
::Check out {{t|u}} for the icons that we use. And please be more civil, Haldo. No need to sheesh.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== Should there be a "higher frame rate" section? ==

I was just thinking this after watching some toons over. The punkin stencils as well as the teen girl squad tenth issue seem to have a slightly higher frame rate than other toons. --[[User:99.154.9.191|99.154.9.191]] 04:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== Awesome ==

Does the word "awesome" deserve its own article like the word "crap" does, or is awesome considered one of the [[spoons]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 05:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA? ==

I'm trying to move a page but the CAPTCHA image isn't loading. What's going on? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:What do you want moved? A sysop should be able to do it for you until the CAPTCHA's fixed. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::I was trying to move [[User:PokemonStar|PokemonStar's]] Holiday template into his/her own userspace, but it's already been taken care of now. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

HRWiki:What HRWiki is not

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The Homestar Runner Wiki (HRWiki) is a collaborative encyclopedia designed to [[HRWiki:Introduction|chronicle]] and [[HRWiki:About|document]] the growth of [[homestarrunner.com]]. There are certain things it should '''not''' be mistaken for:

== HRWiki is not Wikipedia ==

While the Homestar Runner Wiki uses the same software as Wikipedia and has much in common, it is not part of Wikipedia, nor is it in any way affiliated with Wikipedia's parent organization, the [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]]. Thus, many practices and policies at the Homestar Runner Wiki are different from those at Wikipedia.

Miscellaneous information or long explanations are generally discouraged on HRWiki. Information on an HRWiki page cannot stray from that page's subject, and pages not related to Homestar Runner are not to be created. If a term or concept may need to be explained, it is best only to link to a Wikipedia page regarding that item; the information is not to be written on the page itself or added as a new page.

== HRWiki is not a web host ==

The Homestar Runner Wiki is not for hosting media, blogs, or links. However, users are allowed to link to websites within the guidelines of the [[HRWiki:User space|HRWiki User space]] policy, and upload images within the [[HRWiki:Image use policy|Image use]] and [[HRWiki:Personal Images|Personal image]] policies. Uploading of media other than images is strictly prohibited.

== HRWiki is not a social network ==

Users of the Homestar Runner Wiki can maintain user spaces and are free to interact with other users. While making friends is certainly allowed and encouraged, it must be kept in mind that this is not the main focus of the community. HRWiki is intended to document Homestar Runner topics and information, and users that do not contribute to the project are not appreciated.

== HRWiki is not a fansite ==

The Homestar Runner Wiki is not a place to publish Homestar Runner-related creative work. Fanfiction and other written work, though allowed on userpages, is discouraged on HRWiki. Uploading of artwork or photos of Homestar Runner art is allowed by the [[HRWiki:Personal images|Personal Image]] policy, but is generally regarded the same way. Fanstuff is far more appreciated at our sister wiki, the [[HRFWiki:|Fanstuff Wiki]].

== HRWiki is not a forum ==

The purpose of HRWiki talk pages is to allow discussion of the ''content'' of the pages they accompany. Talk pages are ''not'' for chit-chatting even if it does relate to Homestar Runner. (See [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#Main namespace talk|Talk page policy]].) Instead, the Homestar Runner Wiki hosts a forum at [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ http://forum.hrwiki.org/] for non-encyclopedic discussion and an [[HRWiki:IRC|IRC channel]] for casual chat.

== HRWiki is not a soapbox ==

The Homestar Runner Wiki is not a place to publicly express opinions on current events or politics. Any speeches must relate directly to Homestar Runner or the Homestar Runner Wiki.

== See also ==
*[[HRWiki:FAQ]] for a list of frequently asked questions. You may pose a question yourself in its [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|talk page]].
*[[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette]] for information on proper use of HRWiki's talk pages.
*[[HRWiki:User space]] for information on how to adequately use your user space.
*[[HRWiki:Help]] for a list of general help topics.

HRWiki:What HRWiki is not

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