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Cheat Commandos: 2 Part Episode: Part 2

Shadowwolf14 — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:35:09 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* Goofs */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|ccdo7b|2 Part Episode: Part 1|The King of Town DVD}}
[[Image:2PartPart2.png|thumb|"Positive... negative... rabbit..."]]

Gunhaver teams up with The Topplegangers in order to break into the Headquarters Playset and free Blue Laser Commander.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Gunhaver}}, {{Film|Crackotage}}, {{Film|Silent Rip}}, [[Subtlefuge]], [[Dryghost]], [[Swampslash]], [[Fudgeclank]], [[Flashfight]], {{Film|Fightgar}}, {{Film|Firebert}}, {{Film|Blue Laser Commander}}, {{Film|Reynold}}, {{Film|Ripberger}}, [[Green Helmets]], {{Film|Reinforcements}}, [[Taranchula]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places (in order of appearance):''' [[Topplegangers' Hideout]], [[Cheat Commandos HQ]], [[Reynold's Office]], [[Blue Laser Cottage]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 8, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:10

'''Page Title:''' You know dang well!

==Transcript==
''{Open to a view of Gunhaver, Crackotage, Silent Rip walking in a swamp. The title "Two Part Episode: Part Two" appears, with "written on the john by A. Chimendez". The three start walking out the swamp and on to a grassy area.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' You sure this is where the Topplegangers' Hideout is?

'''GUNHAVER:''' I hope so. If not, we're surrounded by an entirely different rag-tag band of mercenaries.

''{Suspenseful music sting plays. Four silhouetted Topplegangers appear from the bushes, pointing guns at Gunhaver, Silent Rip and Crackotage.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' All together now boys.

'''ALL:''' ''{nervously}'' Mmmm...gulp!

''{Subtlefuge walks out of the bushes}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Well, if it isn't my good twin brother, Crapotage. And a couple of Cheat Commandos. ''{pronounced cuh-mon-dos}''

''{Cut to Crackotage next to Silent Rip}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' Not anymore, Subtlefuge. We're on our own!

'''SILENT RIP:''' And we need your help to break into the Headquarters Playset and free Blue Laser.

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' And how do we know this isn't a trap?

''{Cut to Gunhaver melting with his boxers full of lips on it showing.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' I've been wearing these same boxers for three ''{Crackotage and Silent Rip get disturbed expressions}'' days!

''{Cut back to Subtlefuge}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Euhhg! I'm convinced. You might as well meet the rest of the Topplegangers.

''{Cut to a scene with one of the Topplegangers, the Toppleganger is wearing glasses, also has a mustache, and has a gray skin color, wearing a pink shirt saying "BAD GUY", with a German helmet with a skull on it.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Dryghost.

''{Cut to another scene with another Toppleganger, who has 2 scars, a green mohawk, a blue skin color, a chain around his chest, and a black coat.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Swampslash.

''{Cut to another scene with just trees, where a Toppleganger falls from [[Hammerspace]]. Toppleganger has colorful clown hair, a bright yellow skin color, multicolored spots, and wears facepaint and a grenade belt.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Fudgeclank.

'''FUDGECLANK:''' ''{goofy clown laughter}''

''{The Topplegangers all gather beside Subtlefuge.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE''': Each is sold separately with rifle and gear.

''{The "[[Cheap as Free]]" logo appears in the bottom left corner. Cut an exterior shot of the Cheat Commandos HQ, zooming in to the inside. Flashfight stands in front of [[The Screen]], on which is a diagram and the words "OPERATION TAKE 'EM DOWN".}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' And then we all reverse flank, drop trou, and the insurgents should surrender! Any questions?

''{Cut to Fightgar and Firebert.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Yeah, can we let Blue Laser out so we can maybe have some fun for once?

''{Fightgar and Firebert start laughing.}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' Uh-uh! Don't make me have to fire ''you'', Firebert. I'd hate to waste such an exquisite commando name!

'''FIREBERT:''' ''{Sad The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to Reynold and Blue Laser Commander in Reynold's office. A picture of Gunhaver is on the wall}''

'''REYNOLD:''' ''{to picture of Gunhaver}'' And I'd like to submit a formal request for you to shut your face whenever it's convenient for you, and if not, then no problem!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Aw, come on! Really let 'er rip!

'''REYNOLD:''' ''{shaking and jumping towards the picture}'' I'll tear off your face! I'll tear it right off! I'll tear it off and wear it to town!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{shocked}'' Whoa! Struck a nerve there, eh, little Scrawnjob?

'''REYNOLD:''' Mmmm, Scrawnjob! I like the sound of that.

''{Suspenseful music sting plays. Cut to the Topplegangers' hideout, where the Topplegangers and the ex-Cheat Commandos are gathered around a table. Subtlefuge lays out a sheet labeled "Cheat Commandos Headquarters Playset Assembly Instructions".}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Here are the plans!

'''SILENT RIP:''' Where did you get those?!

'''DRYGHOST:''' We've had 'em for a while. I got the headquarters playset for my Bar Mitzvah.

'''SWAMPSLASH:''' It looks like this rear battery cover leads to the holding cell.

'''GUNHAVER:''' Then that's our way in!

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' We'll take the Ramshankle!

''{Cut to the Topplegangers and former Commandos in a beat up boat with a pair of wings and a tank turret attached to it.}''

'''SINGERS:''' It's the Ramshankle, and you know dang well, it's made out of old vehicles that we couldn't sell!

''{Cut to Flashfight and the Cheat Commandos.}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' Since you've all been working so hard, I have a little surprise for you. Non-Violent Dressage Mishaps Volume 4!

'''ALL BUT FLASHFIGHT:''' ''{groans}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' I wanted to watch... ponies... fightin'.

''{Cut to the others outside the battery cover.}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' There's the battery cover, but how will we ever get it open?

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Leave that to Swampslash, our master of disguise. He speaks three different languages, and can blend in anywhere.

'''SWAMPSLASH:''' ''{dressed as a battery}'' Uh... Charge. Positive. Negative. Rabbit. Um... Lick?

''{The cover bursts open, releasing clouds of dust. Everyone starts coughing.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' No wonder the electronic lights and sounds stopped working. These batteries haven't been changed since Donnie's twelfth birthday!

''{Cut to Reynold's office. Gunhaver crashes through the wall.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Sorry Blue Laser, you've stayed in jail for the last time!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{happily}'' Can I get a "''bo''-nus"?!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Bonus! Now get out there and make with the evil schemes!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' "Evil scheme" is quite literally my middle name! It's Slovenian!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Ha! This terlet has the green water in it! A-cool!

''{Cut to outside battery cover. Blue Laser Commander walks out through the empty battery compartment.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Now, there's the slight matter of our er, um, uh, let me think of it, how do say, er, uh...payment!

'''SILENT RIP:''' ''{looking surprised}'' Oh! Uh... right. How do you feel about defaulted, unpaid, triple mortgages on restaurant spaces?

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' As good as gold!

''{Cut to the HQ interior, where Fightgar, Ripberger, Firebert and two green helmets face [[The Screen]]}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And then...

'''ALL:''' ''{gasp}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Once again...

'''ALL:''' ''{gasp}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ...absolutely nothing happened.

'''ALL:''' Awwww...

''{Blue Laser Commander appears on screen. Suspenseful music sting plays.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Attention Cheat Commandos!

'''ALL:''' ''{gasp}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' How did ''he'' get out!?

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' You're already too late! We've flooded all the country's amusement parks with counterfeit Skee-Ball tickets, causing the cost of Skee-Ball prizes to sky-rocket!

'''ALL BUT FLASHFIGHT:''' ''{gasp}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' And why should the military be concerned with this?

'''FIGHTGAR:''' You'll never get away with it, Blue Laser!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Oh, it wasn't my idea. Meet Blue Laser's newest evil mastermind, Scrawnjob!

''{Danger Music plays, Reynold shows up on screen, wearing large goggles, a baggy Blue Laser uniform and a jagged red necktie with skulls on it.}''

'''REYNOLD/SCRAWNJOB:''' That's right, Cheat ComannDON'TS! Say goodbye to those oversized novelty sunglasses! And that boom box was never attainable!

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' So, you've made a game for eight-year-olds slightly more of a rip-off. I still don't see how this affects global security.

''{Cut to Gunhaver, Silent Rip and Crackotage, who are now in the room.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Don't you see, Admiral? Without plastic crap to win, kids will have no recourse but to join criminal groups! The world will be overrun with lasers of ''all'' colors!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{halfheartedly}'' Oh no, Gunhaver figured it out, rendering my plan useless through the TV! Bested again by my old nemesis.

'''ALL:''' Yay!

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' Oh well. I suppose you two are ridiculous enough to justify the other's existence. Here, Gunhaver, you can... have gun. ''{gives Gunhaver's gun back to him}''

'''GUNHAVER''': Thanks! ''{shoots Flashfight}''

'''ALL:''' {gasp}

'''GUNHAVER:''' No, it's cool. He's wearin' that bullet-proof vest from earlier.

''{Reinforcements comes in, wearing the bullet-proof vest.}''

'''REINFORCEMENTS:''' Hey guys.

''{Gunhaver looks at Reinforcements with shock.}''

''{Quick cut to the theme song ending screen.}''

'''SINGERS:''' -ets and toys!!

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "playsets" at the end to see Crackotage rhyming.
:''{Cut to a scene with Crackotage at the left and some other Cheat Commandos at the right}''
:'''CRACKOTAGE''': And now that I'm back as part of the team, I can get into my old rhyme scheme. Laughity laugh laugh!
:'''ALL BUT CRACKOTAGE''': ''{moan}''

*Click on "toys" at the end to see a Taranchula clip. See the [[Short Taranchula Visuals|visuals]].
:''{music}'' That's what happens when you're down with the Fudgeclank!!!
:'''PBTC FUDGECLANK:''' HA HA HAAAA HA HA!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Dressage|Dressage]] is a style of horse competition, emphasizing the movement and grace of horse and rider.
*A [[Wikipedia:Bar Mitzvah|Bar Mitzvah]] is the coming of age ceremony for Jewish males that takes place at age 13. The female equivalent, Bat Mitzvah, takes place at age 12.

===Trivia===
[[Image:DressageMishaps.png|thumb|"And, once again... absolutely nothing happened."]]
*When Gunhaver bursts into Reynold's Office, the wall he breaks through had a drawing of him on it. He has the same pose and expression as the drawing for a moment.
*Before Blue Laser comes onto the screen, a few frames from "Non-Violent Dressage Mishaps Volume 4" can be seen.

===Remarks===
*Gunhaver says, "This terlet has the green water in it!" Although there is green sludgy looking water around the base of the "terlet", the water inside it is light blue.
*When the ex-Cheat Commandos and the Topplegangers are riding in the Ramshankle, Silent Rip is not visible.

===Goofs===
*When the melting Gunhaver moves his arm, it covers a wrinkle in his shirt, even though it should create another.
*When the Cheat Commandos gasp at the shooting of Flashfight, Fightgar's face and left arm do not move with his body.
*The text on Dryghost's t-shirt is backwards when he is seen riding the Ramshankle.

===Inside References===
*Fightgar reminisces watching [[Pony Fights 2|Pony Fights]], previously seen in [[Commandos in the Classroom]].
*The words "BAD GUY" on Dryghost's t-shirt are likely a reference to [[Strong Bad]]'s tattoo idea in [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]].
*"[[Toilets|Terlet]]" is a reversal of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
**The script was "written on the john", another euphemism for a toilet.
*The Taranchula Easter egg recalls [[Trudgemank]].
*Silent Rip mentions the playset belongs to [[Donnie Chapman|Donnie]].
*Flashfight mentions that Firebert's commando name is "exquisite", a play on the running joke that Firebert is a terrible commando name, begun in [[army]].
*Flashfight's plan involves the Commandos dropping their [[pants]].
*Subtlefuge refers to Crackotage as [[Crap]]otage.
*The [[battery]] disguise and the associated sounds are of the same style as those in [[bike thief]].
*Flashfight appears to have been [[death|killed off]] at the end.

===Real World References===
*Swampslash mentioning a rabbit while dressed like a battery is a reference to the mascot for [[Wikipedia:Energizer_Bunny|Energizer batteries]].
*The line "Each is sold separately with rifle and gear" is a reference to an '80s [[Wikipedia:A-Team#Merchandise|A-Team]] toy commercial. In that commercial, they say the same exact line about the A-Team action figures.
*Reynold's pseudonym Scrawnjob is a reference to the rarely seen G.I. Joe character, [[Wikipedia:Snow Job (G.I._Joe)|Snow Job]].
*Flashfight's plan Operation Take 'em Down is a plan to moon the enemy. A similar battle strategy occured in [[Wikipedia:Braveheart|''Braveheart'']].
*Subtlefuge claiming Swampslash "is a master of disguise", "can speak 3 languages", and "can blend in anywhere" is probably a reference to G.I. Joe character [[Wikipedia:Zartan|Zartan]].
*Reynold's comment "That's right, Cheat ComannDON'TS!" may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Sega|Sega's]] anti-[[Wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] logo in the early 90's: "Genesis does what Nintendon't.".

==External Links==
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Cheat Commandos: 2 Part Episode: Part 2

Shadowwolf14 — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:31:11 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* Goofs */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|ccdo7b|2 Part Episode: Part 1|The King of Town DVD}}
[[Image:2PartPart2.png|thumb|"Positive... negative... rabbit..."]]

Gunhaver teams up with The Topplegangers in order to break into the Headquarters Playset and free Blue Laser Commander.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Gunhaver}}, {{Film|Crackotage}}, {{Film|Silent Rip}}, [[Subtlefuge]], [[Dryghost]], [[Swampslash]], [[Fudgeclank]], [[Flashfight]], {{Film|Fightgar}}, {{Film|Firebert}}, {{Film|Blue Laser Commander}}, {{Film|Reynold}}, {{Film|Ripberger}}, [[Green Helmets]], {{Film|Reinforcements}}, [[Taranchula]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places (in order of appearance):''' [[Topplegangers' Hideout]], [[Cheat Commandos HQ]], [[Reynold's Office]], [[Blue Laser Cottage]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 8, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:10

'''Page Title:''' You know dang well!

==Transcript==
''{Open to a view of Gunhaver, Crackotage, Silent Rip walking in a swamp. The title "Two Part Episode: Part Two" appears, with "written on the john by A. Chimendez". The three start walking out the swamp and on to a grassy area.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' You sure this is where the Topplegangers' Hideout is?

'''GUNHAVER:''' I hope so. If not, we're surrounded by an entirely different rag-tag band of mercenaries.

''{Suspenseful music sting plays. Four silhouetted Topplegangers appear from the bushes, pointing guns at Gunhaver, Silent Rip and Crackotage.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' All together now boys.

'''ALL:''' ''{nervously}'' Mmmm...gulp!

''{Subtlefuge walks out of the bushes}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Well, if it isn't my good twin brother, Crapotage. And a couple of Cheat Commandos. ''{pronounced cuh-mon-dos}''

''{Cut to Crackotage next to Silent Rip}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' Not anymore, Subtlefuge. We're on our own!

'''SILENT RIP:''' And we need your help to break into the Headquarters Playset and free Blue Laser.

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' And how do we know this isn't a trap?

''{Cut to Gunhaver melting with his boxers full of lips on it showing.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' I've been wearing these same boxers for three ''{Crackotage and Silent Rip get disturbed expressions}'' days!

''{Cut back to Subtlefuge}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Euhhg! I'm convinced. You might as well meet the rest of the Topplegangers.

''{Cut to a scene with one of the Topplegangers, the Toppleganger is wearing glasses, also has a mustache, and has a gray skin color, wearing a pink shirt saying "BAD GUY", with a German helmet with a skull on it.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Dryghost.

''{Cut to another scene with another Toppleganger, who has 2 scars, a green mohawk, a blue skin color, a chain around his chest, and a black coat.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Swampslash.

''{Cut to another scene with just trees, where a Toppleganger falls from [[Hammerspace]]. Toppleganger has colorful clown hair, a bright yellow skin color, multicolored spots, and wears facepaint and a grenade belt.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Fudgeclank.

'''FUDGECLANK:''' ''{goofy clown laughter}''

''{The Topplegangers all gather beside Subtlefuge.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE''': Each is sold separately with rifle and gear.

''{The "[[Cheap as Free]]" logo appears in the bottom left corner. Cut an exterior shot of the Cheat Commandos HQ, zooming in to the inside. Flashfight stands in front of [[The Screen]], on which is a diagram and the words "OPERATION TAKE 'EM DOWN".}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' And then we all reverse flank, drop trou, and the insurgents should surrender! Any questions?

''{Cut to Fightgar and Firebert.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Yeah, can we let Blue Laser out so we can maybe have some fun for once?

''{Fightgar and Firebert start laughing.}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' Uh-uh! Don't make me have to fire ''you'', Firebert. I'd hate to waste such an exquisite commando name!

'''FIREBERT:''' ''{Sad The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to Reynold and Blue Laser Commander in Reynold's office. A picture of Gunhaver is on the wall}''

'''REYNOLD:''' ''{to picture of Gunhaver}'' And I'd like to submit a formal request for you to shut your face whenever it's convenient for you, and if not, then no problem!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Aw, come on! Really let 'er rip!

'''REYNOLD:''' ''{shaking and jumping towards the picture}'' I'll tear off your face! I'll tear it right off! I'll tear it off and wear it to town!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{shocked}'' Whoa! Struck a nerve there, eh, little Scrawnjob?

'''REYNOLD:''' Mmmm, Scrawnjob! I like the sound of that.

''{Suspenseful music sting plays. Cut to the Topplegangers' hideout, where the Topplegangers and the ex-Cheat Commandos are gathered around a table. Subtlefuge lays out a sheet labeled "Cheat Commandos Headquarters Playset Assembly Instructions".}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Here are the plans!

'''SILENT RIP:''' Where did you get those?!

'''DRYGHOST:''' We've had 'em for a while. I got the headquarters playset for my Bar Mitzvah.

'''SWAMPSLASH:''' It looks like this rear battery cover leads to the holding cell.

'''GUNHAVER:''' Then that's our way in!

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' We'll take the Ramshankle!

''{Cut to the Topplegangers and former Commandos in a beat up boat with a pair of wings and a tank turret attached to it.}''

'''SINGERS:''' It's the Ramshankle, and you know dang well, it's made out of old vehicles that we couldn't sell!

''{Cut to Flashfight and the Cheat Commandos.}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' Since you've all been working so hard, I have a little surprise for you. Non-Violent Dressage Mishaps Volume 4!

'''ALL BUT FLASHFIGHT:''' ''{groans}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' I wanted to watch... ponies... fightin'.

''{Cut to the others outside the battery cover.}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' There's the battery cover, but how will we ever get it open?

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Leave that to Swampslash, our master of disguise. He speaks three different languages, and can blend in anywhere.

'''SWAMPSLASH:''' ''{dressed as a battery}'' Uh... Charge. Positive. Negative. Rabbit. Um... Lick?

''{The cover bursts open, releasing clouds of dust. Everyone starts coughing.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' No wonder the electronic lights and sounds stopped working. These batteries haven't been changed since Donnie's twelfth birthday!

''{Cut to Reynold's office. Gunhaver crashes through the wall.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Sorry Blue Laser, you've stayed in jail for the last time!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{happily}'' Can I get a "''bo''-nus"?!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Bonus! Now get out there and make with the evil schemes!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' "Evil scheme" is quite literally my middle name! It's Slovenian!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Ha! This terlet has the green water in it! A-cool!

''{Cut to outside battery cover. Blue Laser Commander walks out through the empty battery compartment.}''

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' Now, there's the slight matter of our er, um, uh, let me think of it, how do say, er, uh...payment!

'''SILENT RIP:''' ''{looking surprised}'' Oh! Uh... right. How do you feel about defaulted, unpaid, triple mortgages on restaurant spaces?

'''SUBTLEFUGE:''' As good as gold!

''{Cut to the HQ interior, where Fightgar, Ripberger, Firebert and two green helmets face [[The Screen]]}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And then...

'''ALL:''' ''{gasp}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Once again...

'''ALL:''' ''{gasp}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ...absolutely nothing happened.

'''ALL:''' Awwww...

''{Blue Laser Commander appears on screen. Suspenseful music sting plays.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Attention Cheat Commandos!

'''ALL:''' ''{gasp}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' How did ''he'' get out!?

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' You're already too late! We've flooded all the country's amusement parks with counterfeit Skee-Ball tickets, causing the cost of Skee-Ball prizes to sky-rocket!

'''ALL BUT FLASHFIGHT:''' ''{gasp}''

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' And why should the military be concerned with this?

'''FIGHTGAR:''' You'll never get away with it, Blue Laser!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Oh, it wasn't my idea. Meet Blue Laser's newest evil mastermind, Scrawnjob!

''{Danger Music plays, Reynold shows up on screen, wearing large goggles, a baggy Blue Laser uniform and a jagged red necktie with skulls on it.}''

'''REYNOLD/SCRAWNJOB:''' That's right, Cheat ComannDON'TS! Say goodbye to those oversized novelty sunglasses! And that boom box was never attainable!

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' So, you've made a game for eight-year-olds slightly more of a rip-off. I still don't see how this affects global security.

''{Cut to Gunhaver, Silent Rip and Crackotage, who are now in the room.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Don't you see, Admiral? Without plastic crap to win, kids will have no recourse but to join criminal groups! The world will be overrun with lasers of ''all'' colors!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{halfheartedly}'' Oh no, Gunhaver figured it out, rendering my plan useless through the TV! Bested again by my old nemesis.

'''ALL:''' Yay!

'''FLASHFIGHT:''' Oh well. I suppose you two are ridiculous enough to justify the other's existence. Here, Gunhaver, you can... have gun. ''{gives Gunhaver's gun back to him}''

'''GUNHAVER''': Thanks! ''{shoots Flashfight}''

'''ALL:''' {gasp}

'''GUNHAVER:''' No, it's cool. He's wearin' that bullet-proof vest from earlier.

''{Reinforcements comes in, wearing the bullet-proof vest.}''

'''REINFORCEMENTS:''' Hey guys.

''{Gunhaver looks at Reinforcements with shock.}''

''{Quick cut to the theme song ending screen.}''

'''SINGERS:''' -ets and toys!!

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "playsets" at the end to see Crackotage rhyming.
:''{Cut to a scene with Crackotage at the left and some other Cheat Commandos at the right}''
:'''CRACKOTAGE''': And now that I'm back as part of the team, I can get into my old rhyme scheme. Laughity laugh laugh!
:'''ALL BUT CRACKOTAGE''': ''{moan}''

*Click on "toys" at the end to see a Taranchula clip. See the [[Short Taranchula Visuals|visuals]].
:''{music}'' That's what happens when you're down with the Fudgeclank!!!
:'''PBTC FUDGECLANK:''' HA HA HAAAA HA HA!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Dressage|Dressage]] is a style of horse competition, emphasizing the movement and grace of horse and rider.
*A [[Wikipedia:Bar Mitzvah|Bar Mitzvah]] is the coming of age ceremony for Jewish males that takes place at age 13. The female equivalent, Bat Mitzvah, takes place at age 12.

===Trivia===
[[Image:DressageMishaps.png|thumb|"And, once again... absolutely nothing happened."]]
*When Gunhaver bursts into Reynold's Office, the wall he breaks through had a drawing of him on it. He has the same pose and expression as the drawing for a moment.
*Before Blue Laser comes onto the screen, a few frames from "Non-Violent Dressage Mishaps Volume 4" can be seen.

===Remarks===
*Gunhaver says, "This terlet has the green water in it!" Although there is green sludgy looking water around the base of the "terlet", the water inside it is light blue.
*When the ex-Cheat Commandos and the Topplegangers are riding in the Ramshankle, Silent Rip is not visible.

===Goofs===
*When the melting Gunhaver moves his arm, it covers a wrinkle in his shirt, even though it should create another.
*When the Cheat Commandos gasp at the shooting of Flashfight, Fightgar's face and left arm do not move with his body.
*The text on Dryghost's t-shirt is backwards when he is seen riding the Ramshankle.
*In the interior shots of Reynold's office, the batteries appear to be taken out. Though, in the exterior shots, the batteries are back in.

===Inside References===
*Fightgar reminisces watching [[Pony Fights 2|Pony Fights]], previously seen in [[Commandos in the Classroom]].
*The words "BAD GUY" on Dryghost's t-shirt are likely a reference to [[Strong Bad]]'s tattoo idea in [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]].
*"[[Toilets|Terlet]]" is a reversal of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
**The script was "written on the john", another euphemism for a toilet.
*The Taranchula Easter egg recalls [[Trudgemank]].
*Silent Rip mentions the playset belongs to [[Donnie Chapman|Donnie]].
*Flashfight mentions that Firebert's commando name is "exquisite", a play on the running joke that Firebert is a terrible commando name, begun in [[army]].
*Flashfight's plan involves the Commandos dropping their [[pants]].
*Subtlefuge refers to Crackotage as [[Crap]]otage.
*The [[battery]] disguise and the associated sounds are of the same style as those in [[bike thief]].
*Flashfight appears to have been [[death|killed off]] at the end.

===Real World References===
*Swampslash mentioning a rabbit while dressed like a battery is a reference to the mascot for [[Wikipedia:Energizer_Bunny|Energizer batteries]].
*The line "Each is sold separately with rifle and gear" is a reference to an '80s [[Wikipedia:A-Team#Merchandise|A-Team]] toy commercial. In that commercial, they say the same exact line about the A-Team action figures.
*Reynold's pseudonym Scrawnjob is a reference to the rarely seen G.I. Joe character, [[Wikipedia:Snow Job (G.I._Joe)|Snow Job]].
*Flashfight's plan Operation Take 'em Down is a plan to moon the enemy. A similar battle strategy occured in [[Wikipedia:Braveheart|''Braveheart'']].
*Subtlefuge claiming Swampslash "is a master of disguise", "can speak 3 languages", and "can blend in anywhere" is probably a reference to G.I. Joe character [[Wikipedia:Zartan|Zartan]].
*Reynold's comment "That's right, Cheat ComannDON'TS!" may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Sega|Sega's]] anti-[[Wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] logo in the early 90's: "Genesis does what Nintendon't.".

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Talk:Date Nite

Shadowwolf14 — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:21:21 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /**/Does anyone notice?

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== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==

Is there a connection between the "secret hot date" Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the "hot date" they actually went on? Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the "who's making out with marzipan" line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::The "Making out with Marzipan" thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was "Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}

:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Public Rage-o flyer ==

The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears. (They look quite similar) Anyone else think so? -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like "I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off. It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== 8-Bit resemblence ==

i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the "Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date" line. it's funny, but that's just me.
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]

Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a combonation of BM and Bob from Bob and George. But mostly BM. [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Mario ==

I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said "Itsa me, the chef-a", but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:One of Mario's catchphrases is "It's-a me! Mario!" I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen..."Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!" --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world. He's not even the only Italian stereotype. Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]? The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother! --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype. But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=%22it%27sa+me%22&btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game. I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The reason I thought of Mario was because of the "Itsa me ***" format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference. Stereotypical italians don't say "Itsa Me!" Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)

:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here — I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

::Okay, [[#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==

The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a "mom" in this cartoon. He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a "mom" (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I agree that Coach Z is acting like a wife, but it's not implying that he and Bubz are gay. I think it was more of a joke to get the viewers to really crack up. ~[[User:HideAndSeek|HideAndSeek]]
:::::::HideAndSeek hit the nail on the head. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Lockhorn Comic.PNG|thumb|Another rolling pin-wielding housewife]]
:Just as a note, this isn't the first time that a rolling pin has been used as a prop for a stereotypical housewife (see right). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Going down with the ship ==

Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think Elvis got it. This "going down with the ship" thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October "sank". I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. "Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem..." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Who put the whole Titanic thing in there? I see no similarity. I believe it's already mentioned in the article that sailors often sing their national anthem as they go down with their ship, the Titanic wasn't a military vessel, there are no panicking passengers for Homestar and Strong Bad to soothe with their music (as the musicians on the Titanic were trying to do by continuing to play), and neither of them is using an instrument, nor were the musicians on the Titanic singing. Barely any similarity. I think this needs to be removed. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 04:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Just for the record, I agree (and I see that it's now been {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Date_Nite&curid=34045&diff=450885&oldid=450878 removed}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Rockets ==

In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Fundraising weeks ==

How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week? I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' "I didn't read the easter egg."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== FUN Facts. FUN ==
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? "Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times." I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Squared Circle ==
The Squared Circle is a term used in Professional Wrestling, because unlike the actual sport, where they wrestle within a circle, the entertainment version takes place in a square ring, hence, square instead of circle.

or maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle ?

== Differnet ==
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:68.53.87.6|68.53.87.6]]
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
Yer probably right Zerlock. After all, most toons are in the day.--[[User:68.53.87.6|68.53.87.6]]

== Marzipan's house ==

I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:DVD Commentary on [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]:
:<blockquote>'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?</blockquote>
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the "stay home running in place" (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the "Marzipan, I'm home!" from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
FYI: Homestar has his own house. Weren't you looking hard enough? Jeez! - '''Unknown'''

== Strong Bad, Nice? ==

Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to "kill" him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== A little gay...==

Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

No. Strong Bad hates Marzipan. The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to "worry" about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com. Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post? I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate. If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say "this is inappropriate." But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it? My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's voice ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Title Card ==
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card. (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on) Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)? I swear I've seen something similar to it before. Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think). I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both. I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me. I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==

Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Fireworks mirror ==

I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the "floating lime" mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==

I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Four, then? ==

Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says "more than I can count," so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Character Development ==

Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time. There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative. For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]). We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is "popular"). Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS "I'm a waste of space", CZ "I've hit rack bartom!"). And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together). Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Jail reference? ==
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:: To be technical, they were used as rockets here, not TNT. [[User:PureQuestion|PureQuestion]] 22:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== BIAS ==

I think the current interpretation of the phrase "normal bias" found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''. The addition of the word "normal" might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.
Further, "Normal bias" is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as "David Bowie" or "2007 mix tape"). If "normal bias" was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner. We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as "120 minutes" or "700 Mb") in the label area of the item. Any thoughts? [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The "Normal Bias" label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, "Normal Bias" or "TapeMakers 90 minutes"? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::I just looked at what is posted about "normal bias" and I can see why you are confused. Let me clarify my previous post. If you follow the link on the word "bias" it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes. By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term "normal bias" in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias. My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret "normal bias" and that there is a better, more likely interpretation. My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion. With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you. I propose that what is currently posted about "normal bias" be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain "normal bias" in the Real World References section. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I think it's referring to tape bias — see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::Good point. I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape). When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary. It goes against the idea of the body of work. Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==

A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be "nit-picking." Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as "Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend" and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind. Her mascara, for instance. The tofu BBQ, for another. [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third. You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption. I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she "is" a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area). In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.' Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high. My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site. Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not "just speculation"), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well. Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed. This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}. Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence. Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian. You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof. She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards. I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way. I didn't say "you need to ''prove''", I said "what you ''need'' to prove." There's a real difference there. I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology. Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said. I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat. I will say no more. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]]. Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks. A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that "vegan" is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs. Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things. I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::No, it isn't. Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal. Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

: 1 - The [[Marzipan]] article clearly states that she is a vegetarian.
: 2 - Although the specific type of vegetarianism that Marzipan follows is not known, eating gelatin is against *all* of them. The [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|wikipedia article]] has a good discussion of the various types. You will note that all of them decry the eating of meat (remains of dead animals.)
: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin. Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Correct. A "vegetarian" who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef. I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pledge? ==

Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section? There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:Sure — I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== How Was Your Coincidence? ==

It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines ("My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?") is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. ("My lobster thermador was superb! How was your hot dog?") [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say that's reference material. I felt like Marzipan's "how was your hot dog?" was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie. Maybe the gag has been used in other works? (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.) --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== "Bod" reference ==

Homestar's line "That you--gulp--'want his bod'?" is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], "Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!" Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article? --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:I think it is. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 17:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Reminiscent? ==

*Homestar and Strong Bad singing as their ship sinks is reminiscent of how the orchestra on the RMS Titanic continued to play while she sank.

Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Bought a bod? ==

I keep hearing "gulp - bought his bod?" Has Marzipan paying TC to do this? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:I would suggest that you get a nice set of headphones, go into a quiet room, and listen to it again. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Wharf? ==

When the USS Flirtini sinks, the water becomes wide and expansive, could this be the wharfs that have been alluded to? Or is it just for pseudo-dramatic effect? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:It could be either; the facts is, we don't really know. TBC tend not to make connections like these. They often comment on how much they ''don't'' plan things out on their website and how inconsistent it is. On the other hand, you never know what they think while they make the toon. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:: I always figured that since they were launched backwards, the river was connected to a lake, which they ended up in.

== Capers? ==

Can someone explain "capers" to me? What does he mean by that? At first I thought he was meaning "Never seeing each other again, with kippers." as in like, a meal with fish as a side dish. But capers? Can I get an explanation please? -[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 13:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

:[[wikipedia:capers#Culinary_Uses]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 13:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle. ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's greeting, "it's-a me! The chef-a!" is a play on [[Wikipedia:Mario|Mario]]'s famous line, "It's a-me, Mario!".}}
{{stuffverdict|16:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)|22:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)|declined|29|21. A proposed revision was also declined, 31-2|Date Nite}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== I can do it. I can do it sixteen times. ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan strokes her right eyelashes with mascara 16 times.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)|14:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)|declined|38|17|Date Nite}}

== Strong Bad's Location ==

I've confirmed this by looking at the flash file in frames, so don't change it (It's in the transcript): Strong bad is already in Marzipan's house when he says "head."

== Public Rage-o ==

Is it just a coincidence that "Public Rage-o" sounds a lot like "Public Radio"? You have to sound it out a bit but the resemblance is uncanny. --[[User:Echeese|Echeese]] 19:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

== Curse? ==

I know Missy Palmer/Marzipan have only said "crap" once, but I distinctly keep hearing, "Homestar, if you're trying to say I look like a f***sy mama..." Anyone else? {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 20:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

:Umm, no, not at all. Foxy Mama makes sense, especially in the context of "fox's mother". [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 20:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh. You're right. I listened again, and it's just her inflection. My bad! {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 00:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

== Count Fiveguardo ==

I know it's just an insult, but how notable is it that Homestar counts past Marzipan's claim of four in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:He's reading from a cue card there.

== Or is it THE Marzipan now? ==

I think that the fact Homestar comments that Marzipan's name might have a 'the' in front of it is referencing the magority of characters that have 'the' as a title eg. the king of town, the cheat, the homestar runner.
:Yes, it's definitely a reference to the [[integral article]]. In fact, this is already mentioned in inside references. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::Noes, I think it's that Homestar is hinting that The Cheat and Marzipan are steady, and wives will often adopt their husband's last names, so it makes sense... a little bit. -Werghy (Image codes stink)

=It'sa me!=

Any one else think that's from Mario 64? [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 17:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:See [[#Mario|above]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Fabrosi's fake mustache ==

I made the following addition to the Inside References section, which was promptly deleted. I think this is bogus, so someone back me up here.

**The Cheat's fake mustache may be a reference to [[lady...ing]], in which Fabrosi is said to use a fake mustache when lady-ing.

== lack of visible arms reference ==

when The Cheat holds out his arm for Marzipan to hook her arm around, isn't that a reference to the lack of visible arms? Its also mentioned in the commentary as well. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Does anyone notice? ==

Does anyone notice that the font on the "Hot Vegan" eyeliner changes fonts?

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== Some Video Game Speculation ==

I sell video games for a living, working at a toy store, and if have my speculations about which game is referenced: 
'''Night Vision Mode 4''' - The goggles and night vision reminds me of the iconic [[Wikipedia:Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell|Splinter Cell]] headgear. 
'''Lord of Armor''' - The name and box art is similar to [[Wikipedia:The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king|The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king]]. 
'''Tank Driverer''' - Could be tactical or strategy game with that name. I can't seem to think of a game where a tank is shown in that angle. 
'''Sword Thong Gold Edition''' - Although there is now a fun fact that this game is a reference to Soul Caliber, I strong think that, unlike the others, this is a direct reference to [[Wikipedia:Heavenly Sword|Heavenly Sword]]. The name is practically the same, the box art is very similar with the same pose of pointing the sword forward and the long hair of the main character. And she also is wearing a thong throughout the game. If anything at all, I think this is the only fun-fact worthy one, since the others are somewhat generalizations. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

:As for tank driverer, it could be that old game called [[Wikipedia:Bolo (video game)|Bolo]]. But it doesn't seem to have any art at all. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::I really think that trying to pin the games to any one thing as opposed to the general genre that it's in is pointless speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, the night vision goggles -> splinter cell and sword thong -> heavenly sword seem pretty direct to me. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.37|132.183.138.37]] 17:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree with anon, there. Sword Thong Gold Edition is definitely a ref to Heavenly Sword. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 20:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::For once, I'm going to have to agree with Defender here. It initially made me think of the Soul Calibur series. It's likely a reference to the genre, not to a particular game.

=="New Stuff" Glitch==

If you go to the bottom of the "new stuff" bar, this toon is found at the bottom of the list too. [[User:Whatever2965|Whatever2965]] 14:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

==BRAINKRIEG==

Brainkrieg sounds more like a hardcore punk outfit than death metal in my opinion.
Any thoughts? {{unsigned|66.118.242.7|15:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)}}
:The band was introduced in [[death metal]]...'nuff said. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 15:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::I concur. The subject matter of death metal music is typically horror-inspired violence and the occult, whereas this song seems to be more social in content. Not only that, but their playing style seems more like punk or grunge rather than death metal. {{unsigned|24.117.107.182|19:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)}}
:::The point made in [[death metal]] was that they WEREN'T a death metal band... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:01, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Um, fat drummer, bowels of lungs, hunched posture, "de" words? Admittedly they missed the mark a bit, but the facts are there.[[Special:Contributions/92.2.112.197|92.2.112.197]] 14:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because a band SEEMS like death metal doesn't mean they are. In death metal, they were pretty much posing as a death metal band, and in this, they sound more like grunge.

== Internet Channel ==

--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 16:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)This toon and several before it get screwed up on the Wii's Internet Channel. Why? (I is usin the Internet Ch. so that's why my sig came 1st.)
: As we've discussed on the Wiki a zillion times, it's because the Wii's Flash player isn't up to date. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

::And you can't update it either, so don't bother trying.--[[User:Flytape8490|Flytape8490]] 17:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== trivia ==

It seems kind-of pointless to point out that homestar on the cover sings along to "Homestar Presents Presents" in the trivia, when it states it in the transcript.
:I concour. *ding* [[User:Pointy King|Pointy King]] 23:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::Please note, it was removed some time ago. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Cast ==

Is it necessary to add all the characters who appear in audio recycled from other toons? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 20:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:They're still part of the cast regardless. Recycled or not, it's in the toon, so it counts. -[[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 19:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Button Glitch ==

Is it just me or does the homescreen button not have the gloss that the others do? - {{User:Wecannotbesaved/sig}} 20:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Longest toon? ==

Is this the longest toon of any kind on H*R pre-Easter Egg time? It's longer than any [[Toons_By_Length|regular toons]] and longer than any [[Strong_Bad_Email_By_Length|SBemail]] without Easter Eggs included. Not sure whether this is worth noting though, since it does feel a bit contrived. 21:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:There's currently a [[Talk:retirement#Longest toon?|discussion]] about it, but i say it's not a "toon" as such. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

TBC seem not to have put this under "holiday" on the toons menu yet, just "new". is this important? should I put this under goofs of fixed goofs when they fix it?-{{User: Lifty Fernandez/sig}}
:Sometimes it takes awhile for it to be posted onto the regular menus. It's happened before with other "new" releases. By the next update it should be there, otherwise we will probably end up classifying it as a "Secret" page, just as the [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]], [[Non-Sequitur Champion]], and [[Happy T!]] did. -[[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 20:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, nevermind. 'Tis on now. [[A Death-Defying Decemberween|DDD]] must have jogged their memorie.-{{User: Lifty Fernandez/sig}}

== During the brainkrieg video... ==

All of the buttons for the menu are tabbable. Also another thing to mention, maybe a remark instead of a goof/glitch: After the brainkrieg video, since the tracklist doesn't repeat, you must select another track before you can select the brainkrieg video.

Also, O, Decemberween has audio artifacts. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:I know that and maby it is not a glitch. I think the smoking gutiar refers to Eat it music video where gutai r smokes then expodes.

== Debra ==

Is the Debra line from The Dethemberween Thnikkman a reference to the song by Beck? Or am I just pulling at straws?
:Straws. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:Debra is first mentioned in [[Senior Prom]].
::Though they may not be the same Deborah. There's no way to tell in either direction. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::True, but the point is, it's most likely NOT a reference to the song by Beck.

== Did anyone notice? ==

There is one goof that I have seen and one reference.
The goof is that when at the end they say "jugga-jigga-wugga", the drummer's outline becomes thinner and then goes back to it's normal state after the "jugga-jigga-wugga".
The reference is that the page title, "Listen to it Fizz", is not only talking about the fizzing record but also it is a reference to the line from The Three Stooges, "Drop it in a glass of water and listen to it fizz!"

HRWiki:Sandbox

Shadowwolf14 — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:46:45 GMT

Shadowwolf14:

{{userboxtop|It's just a joke.}}
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCE6FF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=  | msg=[[User:Record307|Record307]] enjoys '''blanking the sandbox'''.}}
|}

'''[[Strong Sad|STRONG SAD]]:''' I see a constellation of [[Wikipedia:Orion (constellation)|Orion]] in the sky.

'''ORION:''' No you don't, now shut-up!

''{[[Strong Bad]] chases after Strong Sad in an Orion city bus}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out, loser! ''{runs Strong Sad over}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I never knew there was a bus named Orion. ''{dies}''

'''ACAM30:''' whAAAAAt was that all about...

'''DEFENDER1031:''' She's online but on IRC...

=Esplode=
'''Your Head Esplode!'''

'''Strong Mad''': Did you just say Esplode?

----
'''Homestar''': Blah Strong Bad! Blah! I'm a crappy stuntman!

Talk:404'd

Shadowwolf14 — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:09:05 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /**/May I?

I kind of figured I should just replace this page's text with the one I wrote.. I found this one after I did 404. Glad you liked it though :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:33, 5 Oct 2004 (MST)

Yeah, your page was so much better. Thanks for making it. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]] 20:24, 5 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Not existant? ==

*It appears as if they aren't using the 404'd page anymore. Just a plain ol' internet explorer 404 page. Either my computer is screwed up, or we should mention this...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:28, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:Your computer is screwed up. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
::I don't think so, I'm using firefox and I'm getting the stock 404 error page, but I can still access the customized 404 page. Does anyone still get the customized 404 for a broken file name? ---[[Euphoric]]
:::It would seem this page is not being accessed for 404 errors. I've replicated the problem. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::I have made an edit to the page. Note - I have seen it working since May, so i used today as the date of noticing this. hopefully it's a temporary thing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm not getting the 404'd page either. For the record, I use Firefox.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's working again, like, two weeks later.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 16:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== How Is It Done? ==

How do you make a specail 404 page for every page that doesn't exist? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}
:It's a setting on their web server. Each time the server returns a 404 error, it redirects the browser to the 404'd page that TBC have specified. Most web servers have this capability. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, I don't suppose that'll work on hosting services? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}
:::It might. Detailed instructions can be found at [http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/reference/article.php/3472591 HTML Goodies], the site that first taught me html one tag at a time in the 90s. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:42, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

::::We do the same thing here on the Wiki. See [http://www.hrwiki.org/notapage an example].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::It's done by editing a file named ''404.shtml'' if you don't want to go through a link to HTMLgoodies. Not all hosts all you to make error pages though. --[[User:205.213.123.69|205.213.123.69]] 16:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== 404.shtml ==

When accessing the page ''404.shtml'' it gives a real error page, (A 403 forbidden page actually, which has been integrated into another error.) This may be notable, or not depending on how you look at it. --[[User:205.213.123.69|205.213.123.69]] 16:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== May I? ==

I saw an inside reference on the page (lowercase i) may I put it in?

caffeine

Shadowwolf14 — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:16:52 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* DVD Version */

{{sbenav|91}}
[[Image:Parakeet.PNG|thumb|"Did you just say 'parakeet'?"]]

Strong Bad is asked to give Strong Sad some [[Hyperactive Strong Sad|caffeine]]. Strong Bad has been looking for a project for the upcoming [[All-Wide Science Fair]], so he decides to try the suggestion.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Classroom]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Wednesday, December 10, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:41

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And coming in at number 91, it's: E-Maaaaaaaaaaail!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
It must be really annoying living 
with someone as whiny as Strong Sad. 
Why don't you slip him some caffeine? 
 
Justin 
Murfreesboro, TN</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "TN" as "Tekken".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho-ho! Devilish laugh. ''{types "Ohhhhhhh. (devilish laugh)"}''

''{Strong Bad clears the screen and types again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dear Justin, In addition to the cut of your jib, I likes the sound of your town. Murfreesboro. But we got the All-Wide Science Fair just around the corner and I've been straining for a project. So far alls I've come up with is the effects of gasoline. ''{pauses a bit}'' On fire. ''{stops typing}''

''{Cut to a blue-print-style background, with the handwritten title "How to make science work for me".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So, I figure I just drop a couple of heaping spoonfuls—

''{Said spoon and jar of coffee powder appears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —of Sanka

''{"heaping spoonful" appears with an arrow pointing at the powder}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —into Strong Sad's orange juice,

''{Said juice appears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' and collect the ensuing data.

''{The spoon drops in the powder. It spoons some more powder, pauses while "yet another heaping spoonful" and another arrow appear, then stirs it in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll definitely get first place. And who knows? I might even win me a Noble Peacie Prize...

''{"slight discoloration" and another arrow appears next to the juice, and "slightly disgusting" appears with yet another arrow pointing at the jar of coffee.}''

''{Cut to view of Strong Bad and Strong Sad in the basement. Strong Bad is holding a legal pad, in which he makes periodic notes. One of Strong Sad's eyes is open unnaturally wide, and he holds his hands high above his head. His fingers twitch frequently, and some erratic and discordant music plays in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So Strong Sad, tell me, how do you feel?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{speaking very quickly and clapping his hands together over his head}'' I feel great! I feel great! I feel great! I feel bad. I don't even watch football! I don't even watch football! I can't remember my legs.

''{Cut to Strong Sad following an annoyed The Cheat on hands and knees. Strong Bad is in the background, watching and taking notes.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey The Cheat! Listen up! Widdlywiddlywill! What did I say? What did I just say? Did I say anything? What about this one: hoo hee haw whadiawah! Did that mean anything? ''{Strong Bad voice-over begins}'' Did I offend you? I hope I didn't offend you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' After being exposed to my control Cheat, subject started acting ''way'' creepier than normal...like, even for Strong Sad.

''{Cut to Marzipan's house, where she is trying to paint with Strong Sad next to her. We see Strong Bad in the foreground making more observations and taking more notes.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mar-zi-pan, Mar-zi-pan! What do you wanna make? You wanna make some wood-davers with me? I got pine cones! I got peanut butter! I got everything we need! I said pine cones! Pine cones! Gonna be successful! Gonna be phenomenally successful! Sell 'em at the corner store! Sell 'em at the five and dime! Marzipan, you gotta get on the train, get on the wood-davers train! Here goes the wood-davers train! It's takin' off! It's a new century! ''{Marzipan walks away and Strong Bad voice-over begins}'' I can't remember cereal, I can't remember TV. Is it football season yet? I'll run you over in football, run you down the field like a clown!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' The subject's condition continued to deteriorate, and he began making up arts and crafts activities. Like wood-davers.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement. Strong Mad is sitting on the couch, and Strong Sad is hanging upside-down from the ceiling.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' GET DOWN.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No!

'''STRONG MAD:''' GET DOWN!

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, no... Parakeet.

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{in disbelief, and very clearly}'' Did you just say "parakeet"?

''{Cut to a field with Strong Sad and Coach Z. Strong Sad alternates bouncing on his left and right legs. Strong Bad is in the background making notes and observations again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' In the final stages, subject became: ''{The following words come up on the screen in Tandy text as Strong Bad says them}'' Erratic, violent, and Really Funny to Watch.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{slapping Coach Z in the face}'' Hey Coach Z! Hey Coach Z! Whaddaya got? Whaddaya got for me? How about that? Wanna play some soccer? ''{while Coach Z is speaking}'' Some hockeyjock? I got whatever it takes! Hey, ya want some salad? Pasta salad? Tuna salad? Fruit salad?

'''COACH Z:''' Woo! Woo! Cut that out! Don't hurt me! I don't wanna die! I'm just an old man— ''{Strong Sad steals Coach Z's hat after it falls to the ground}'' Ooh! Ooh!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...Salad! Fruit salad! Fruit salad! Fruit salad! ''{Slowing down}'' Salad... ''{powering-down sound}'' ...Salad as a rock? Um... Coach Z, what are we doin' here?

'''COACH Z:''' You was tryin' to jank me!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Feelin' woozy...

''{Strong Sad falls on his back. Coach Z's hat lands on his stomach. Cut to the All-Wide Science Fair auditorium stage, where a picture of Strong Sad on his back is shown on Strong Bad's easel under the caption "Results:".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' At this point, the test subject...was dead. ''{Gasp from the audience}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' I was not dead!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...Shut up. And all of this data could only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's adopted. ''{another gasp from the audience}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' That's not true either!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down as a close up of Strong Bad's project is shown.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end of the e-mail, click on the various pictures on the right side of Strong Bad's science project board to see some of his car sketches.
:*Top notecard: "Jalopy"
:*Middle [[Sticky Note]]: "[[Weekly Fanstuff 2005#WF-2005-04-21|Shark-mobile, can it work?]]"
:*Bottom Looseleaf: "The Fast"
*Also at the end, hold down the left mouse button over the paper in the folder on the left side to see Strong Bad's original project, The Effects of Gasoline on Fire. The left side reads:
<blockquote>about the 
author: 
strong bad 
has at least 
fifteen 
bucks in his 
wallet right 
now. bet 
that's more 
than you, 
poor person.</blockquote>

The right side, which is on fire, reads:

<blockquote>somebody 
should 
probably 
be keeping 
an eye on 
this. </blockquote>

*Finally at the end, move your mouse to the right side of the screen to find an arrow which you can click on to see Homestar Runner's project. It is blank except for the words "AWW MAN. IT MELTED." and a puddle on the table.
:*Click on the puddle and you'll see Homestar explain his project.
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' For my project, I opted to use more social studies...a-than science.
::'''CROWD:''' Yes, I see! Impressive! ''{miscellaneous chatter}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===

*"Cut of your jib" is an old sailors' phrase, used to describe the expression on one's face, or the appearance of a ship from afar (the shape of the foresail, or "cut of the jib", described a ship's character). [http://www.bibliomania.com/2/3/255/1168/19836/1/frameset.html]
*Strong Bad's "Noble Peacie Prize" refers to the [[Wikipedia:Nobel Foundation|Nobel Foundation's]] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].
**Incidentally, he would more qualify for the [[Wikipedia: Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine|Nobel Physiology or Medicine Prize]]
*A [[wikipedia:Five and dime|five and dime]] was a type of store popular in the mid-1900s originally selling items such as candy and small toys.

===Trivia===

*With the exception of the Halloween toons, this is the first time [[Coach Z]] is seen without his hat on.
*Two versions of this were put up on the site. The first, which can be viewed on a mirror [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail91.html here] has Coach Z saying "I'm just a crazy old man!" while being slapped. However, [[HR:sbemail91.html|the version currently on the site]] has him saying "I'm just an old man!" The reason for this change is unknown.
*This is the first instance of [[Hyperactive Strong Sad]].
*The "All-Wide Science Fair" sign is printed on fan-fold paper, possibly from the same printer as [[The Paper]].
*In Strong Bad's Science Project display board, the sheet of paper in the pocket under the words "What's a [[Wood-daver]]?" reads:
<blockquote>Strong Bad's
Science Fair Project
(not "The Effects of
Gasoline on Fire" again)</blockquote>
*The summary on the Podstar Runner RSS feed for this video says "Strong Sad gets caffeinated."

===Remarks===

[[Image:2mss.PNG|thumb|Is this better or worse than 3 noses?]]
*Strong Bad says "coming in at number 91" at the beginning of the email. In the email [[flashback]], he says he lost count of his emails somewhere around #51.
*The sound of Strong Sad coming down from his caffeine 'high' is the same sound used in [[gimmicks]] when Strong Bad's Tandy 400 shut down and was about to explode.
*Strong Sad's bulging eye is an upside-down copy of [[Bubs|Bubs]]'s smaller eye.
*Strong Bad says "my control Cheat", a rare use of The Cheat's name without an [[integral article]].
*Strong Sad is moving so erratically, he has two mouths to add to the illusion after Marzipan walks away.
*When looking at Homestar's project, you can find an invisible "back" button by pressing Tab.
*Strong Bad pronounces the emailer's town as "mur-FREES-bro", while the Tennessee city is actually pronounced "MUR-fees-bo-ro".

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad types 'in addition to', the D's overlap the A and each other.

===Inside References===
*"Hockeyjock" is likely a reference to [[personal favorites]].
*Despite Strong Sad's protests, Strong Bad claims that [[Death#Strong Sad|Strong Sad is dead]] (and adopted).

===Real-World References===
*When reading "TN" Strong Bad says "''Tekken''" instead of "Tennessee". ''[[Wikipedia:Tekken|Tekken]]'' is a popular fighting game by [[Wikipedia:Namco|Namco]].
*The "shark-mobile" may be a reference to an old [[Wikipedia:Hot Wheels|Hot Wheels]] car called "The Sharkruiser [http://www.southtexasdiecast.com/hwguide/images/000/32.jpg]."
*Ironically, [[Wikipedia:Sanka|Sanka]] was the world's first brand of ''decaffeinated'' coffee. [http://www.telusplanet.net/public/coffee/history.htm Invented] in 1903, Sanka was first marketed in the United States in 1923.

== DVD Version ==
*All of the Easter eggs are intact, but have been condensed down into two Easter eggs.
**The first DVD Easter egg (found via the hidden Strong Bad Icon to the left of the Project Title) features a peek at what Strong Bad's original project was, closeups of all three of the "cool cars," '''and''' a closeup of the paper in the folder. Plus, the fire from the original project burns a corner off The Paper and also a fire crackling sound effect is added.
**The second DVD Easter egg (found via the hidden Strong Bad Icon to the right of the Project Title) combines Homestar's Project and his comments on it.

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|91}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:Nighttime Driving Type Game

Shadowwolf14 — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:19:18 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* New Page? */

There's a typo. Am I allowed to change it? In the second real world reference, it says "socres." [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 23:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yup, go right ahead. It's a [[Wikipedia:Wiki|wiki]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
::It's just that one time, I made a new page on wikipedia and it got deleted. [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 19:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, that's different. Big edits, such as making a brand new page, can be controversial. But minor edits like fixing a typo will always be highly encouraged and commended. Great jorb! :) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

== New Page? ==
Can I add a new page for the Strongbad Easter Egg and move the goofs etc. to the new page?
:Now why would you do that? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I would like to do it so that the goofs section and the other stuff implying towards the Strong Bad Easter Egg doesn't get tangled up with the stuff implying towards the game.
:No need for that. It's still part of the game, even if it's not gameplay. Just add a qualifier ("In the Easter egg", etc.) in front of appropriate facts and it's fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks!

Talk:Nighttime Driving Type Game

Shadowwolf14 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:10:53 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* New Page? */

Talk:Nighttime Driving Type Game

Shadowwolf14 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:19:41 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* New Page? */

Talk:Nighttime Driving Type Game

Shadowwolf14 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:19:17 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /**/New Page?

Nighttime Driving Type Game

Shadowwolf14 — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:19:02 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* Trivia */

[[Image:nightdriver.png|thumb|It's just a four minute drive away]]

'''Nighttime Driving Type Game''' is a game accessible only by clicking the "O" in [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].

In this game, you must drive through oncoming traffic... at night! Move your car with the mouse.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Nightime_egg.PNG|thumb|300px|Get out of my basement!]]

*If you beat {{film|Strong Bad}}'s high score of 50,000 points, you'll get a short cutscene where Strong Bad shows you that he's now gotten a new high score, exactly one point higher than yours. You can also access this by right-clicking and pressing "Play" when you lose on the Flash File.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you beat my high score, huh? Well, check this out, I just finished this game.
:''{Cut to the game on his television screen. His score is one point higher than yours.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, tough luck, man. I guess it's back to the drawing board for you!
:''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Or, back to the Night Driving board... or, w— ''{yells}'' Get out of my basement!

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*The scoring is as follows:
**Green Car - 100
**Red Car - 500
**Police Car - 500
**Drunk Driver - 1000
*The movement of the cars are as follows:
**Green Car - Takes up one lane and can go in any.
**Red Car - Always Takes up the middle lane, moves very fast.
**Police Car - Always takes up the middle and the right lane.
**Drunk Driver (truck) - Takes up one lane, swerves from the left lane to the right lane most of the time, but on occasion, goes from the right lane to the left.
*Depending on your score, Strong Bad's score will also change.

===Remarks===
*It's not possible to get a score one point higher than another score, like Strong Bad says he did, considering that all point values are multiples of 100.
*In [[SBCG4AP]], Strong Bad's room is not in his basement.
**Assuming that the website is correct and not the game, this is the first time his room is verified to be connected to the basement. This fact is revisited in [[nightlife]].

===Goofs===
*If you look closely at the TV in the Easter egg when the camera is focusing on Strong Bad, the points counter is in the correct position, but, when it focuses on the TV the points counter is in the wrong position as opposed to the actual game. Also, there is no life counter as opposed to the game which, of course, has it.
*Furthermore in the Easter egg, as the camera is focused on Strong Bad, if you are in the Flash file and you pause and zoom in, you can copy the score off of Strong Bad's TV.

===Glitches===
[[Image:Nighttime_type_highscore.png|thumb|Two digits are cut off here.]]
*You still earn points for any vehicle that passes your wrecked vehicle.
*You can crash 2–3 times in rapid succession yet only lose one life (in other words, crashing, then immediately crashing again).
*The game sometimes loads data where the green cars always drive on the right side of the road (from your perspective), and the trucks swerve left, then right, meaning if you stay in the left lane, you'll never die. This is more likely to happen in the Flash file.
*Right-click and deselect play for unlimited lives. When you run out of lives, your lives will show as "-" and you can keep playing. Select "play" again to get the "game over" screen.
**Sometimes while exploiting this glitch, some vehicles will never appear.
*If you untick play at the game over screen, it goes to the Easter Egg, no matter what score you obtained.
*If you get over 100,000 points, the score will appear to reset to 10,000. This is due to the game only displaying the first five digits in the score; the counter still has the actual score stored.
**When you access the high-score Easter egg, if your score is over 100,000, Strong Bad's score will appear to be the same as yours due to this glitch, unless you highlight the score, revealing the digits after the first 5.
*If you crash into another car, and a drunk driver is there, the drunk driver will crash even though you didn't hit it.

===Inside References===

*The source of the Easter egg is the [[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]], where he brags that he's got the high score of 50,000 points, and challenges you to beat it.
*The "Drunk Drivers" are examples of [[alcohol]].

===Real-World References===

*The game itself is based on the [[Atari 2600]] game "[[Wikipedia:Night Driver|Night Driver]]", which in turn was based on the 1976 arcade game of the same name.
*Strong Bad beating the player's high score by one point when the player scores more than 50,000 point is a reference to the Marathon Man in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time]]. The Marathon Man will challenge Link to a race from the Gerudo Valley to the Kokiri Forest and when Link finishes, the Marathon Man always beats him by one second.
*The player's car resembles the Blue Falcon from F-Zero.

==See Also==

*[[Strong Bad's Message Bored]]
*[[Armless Invaders]]
*[[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge]]

==External Links==

*[[HR:boredgames.html|Go to the Message Bored]] and click on the "O" in "Bored"
*[[HR:superbored.swf|View the Flash file for the Message Bored]]

[[Category:Games]]

Nighttime Driving Type Game

Shadowwolf14 — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:16:34 GMT

Shadowwolf14: /* Goofs */

[[Image:nightdriver.png|thumb|It's just a four minute drive away]]

'''Nighttime Driving Type Game''' is a game accessible only by clicking the "O" in [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].

In this game, you must drive through oncoming traffic... at night! Move your car with the mouse.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Nightime_egg.PNG|thumb|300px|Get out of my basement!]]

*If you beat {{film|Strong Bad}}'s high score of 50,000 points, you'll get a short cutscene where Strong Bad shows you that he's now gotten a new high score, exactly one point higher than yours. You can also access this by right-clicking and pressing "Play" when you lose on the Flash File.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you beat my high score, huh? Well, check this out, I just finished this game.
:''{Cut to the game on his television screen. His score is one point higher than yours.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, tough luck, man. I guess it's back to the drawing board for you!
:''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Or, back to the Night Driving board... or, w— ''{yells}'' Get out of my basement!

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*The scoring is as follows:
**Green Car - 100
**Red Car - 500
**Police Car - 500
**Drunk Driver - 1000
*The movement of the cars are as follows:
**Green Car - Takes up one lane and can go in any.
**Red Car - Always Takes up the middle lane, moves very fast.
**Police Car - Always takes up the middle and the right lane.
**Drunk Driver (truck) - Takes up one lane, swerves from the left lane to the right lane most of the time, but on occasion, goes from the right lane to the left.

===Remarks===
*It's not possible to get a score one point higher than another score, like Strong Bad says he did, considering that all point values are multiples of 100.
*In [[SBCG4AP]], Strong Bad's room is not in his basement.
**Assuming that the website is correct and not the game, this is the first time his room is verified to be connected to the basement. This fact is revisited in [[nightlife]].

===Goofs===
*If you look closely at the TV in the Easter egg when the camera is focusing on Strong Bad, the points counter is in the correct position, but, when it focuses on the TV the points counter is in the wrong position as opposed to the actual game. Also, there is no life counter as opposed to the game which, of course, has it.
*Furthermore in the Easter egg, as the camera is focused on Strong Bad, if you are in the Flash file and you pause and zoom in, you can copy the score off of Strong Bad's TV.

===Glitches===
[[Image:Nighttime_type_highscore.png|thumb|Two digits are cut off here.]]
*You still earn points for any vehicle that passes your wrecked vehicle.
*You can crash 2–3 times in rapid succession yet only lose one life (in other words, crashing, then immediately crashing again).
*The game sometimes loads data where the green cars always drive on the right side of the road (from your perspective), and the trucks swerve left, then right, meaning if you stay in the left lane, you'll never die. This is more likely to happen in the Flash file.
*Right-click and deselect play for unlimited lives. When you run out of lives, your lives will show as "-" and you can keep playing. Select "play" again to get the "game over" screen.
**Sometimes while exploiting this glitch, some vehicles will never appear.
*If you untick play at the game over screen, it goes to the Easter Egg, no matter what score you obtained.
*If you get over 100,000 points, the score will appear to reset to 10,000. This is due to the game only displaying the first five digits in the score; the counter still has the actual score stored.
**When you access the high-score Easter egg, if your score is over 100,000, Strong Bad's score will appear to be the same as yours due to this glitch, unless you highlight the score, revealing the digits after the first 5.
*If you crash into another car, and a drunk driver is there, the drunk driver will crash even though you didn't hit it.

===Inside References===

*The source of the Easter egg is the [[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]], where he brags that he's got the high score of 50,000 points, and challenges you to beat it.
*The "Drunk Drivers" are examples of [[alcohol]].

===Real-World References===

*The game itself is based on the [[Atari 2600]] game "[[Wikipedia:Night Driver|Night Driver]]", which in turn was based on the 1976 arcade game of the same name.
*Strong Bad beating the player's high score by one point when the player scores more than 50,000 point is a reference to the Marathon Man in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time]]. The Marathon Man will challenge Link to a race from the Gerudo Valley to the Kokiri Forest and when Link finishes, the Marathon Man always beats him by one second.
*The player's car resembles the Blue Falcon from F-Zero.

==See Also==

*[[Strong Bad's Message Bored]]
*[[Armless Invaders]]
*[[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge]]

==External Links==

*[[HR:boredgames.html|Go to the Message Bored]] and click on the "O" in "Bored"
*[[HR:superbored.swf|View the Flash file for the Message Bored]]

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