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Talk:Where's an Egg?

SnakeBoxer202 — Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:32:37 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /**/Heavy plays "Where's an Egg?"

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==Character themes==

I just noticed something. Every character has their own variation on the theme that plays in that person's presence. Whenever you ask a character about another character, or they answer a question about that character, that character's theme will be played along with the theme of the character you're speaking with. But when only items and places are involved in the question (or the occasional super-bad liar who answers a question with him/herself when it's patently not true), you'll hear only the one character's theme. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:: Could someone decompile the seperate themes? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 23:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

==Multiple endings==

I've found that depending on how quickly I finish the games. So far, I've found four:
*Fireworks only — 900 seconds or less left
*Fireworks and a white satellite-looking spaceship — 901-940 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, and a yellow/brown spaceship — 941-970 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, a yellow/brown spaceship, and a gray/green spaceship with an alien coming out — 971 or more seconds left
I'm unsure whether there are any other endings for amounts of time left much smaller than the above. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:My guess is that the 3rd one is a space lab and the "alien" that comes out is a cosmonaut performing a space walk.

:I managed to win a few times just by shooting at everyone immediately. My best time is 994 and all I get is the sputnik, the rocket and the space lab.

:[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't just any "spaceships", those are definitely meant to refer to the Sputnik satellites.

The first is Sputnik. The second is probably [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1 Vostok 1], with Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space. The third is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_2 Voskhod 2], with Aleksei Leonov, the first human to perform a spacewalk. [[User:CaseyG|CaseyG]] 01:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Dead on - good work! They definitely appear to be celebrating Russia's "firsts" in space. First man-made satellite, first human in space, and first spacewalk. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I let the time run down to 96 before getting bored, and nothing unusual happened when I shot the culprit. So it doesn't seem there are any other endings. Why the heck they think people need as much time as they give is totally and utterly beyond me - the amount of time is ridiculously high and takes forever to run down! - but whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I let it run down to 001 and shot the culprit — just the normal ending. Also, I agree: 1000 seconds is unnecessary. I will say, though, that the first time I played it I was completely clueless, so it was nice that I could take my time stumbling around and trying to figure out what was going on. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:::This is Forum fodder primarily, but I'll briefly add that being timed out when learning a game is really frustrating and turns me off, and that may be a reason behind TBC's use of such a long timeout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Locations, suspects, and items ==
Here are my attempts at identifying the locations, suspects, and items. I'm not sure of all of them, especially the ones with question marks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
===Locations===
*Aquarium
*Forest
*Museum (?)
*Siberia (thanks, [[Special:Contributions/70.116.132.84|70.116.132.84]])
*City
*Desert
*Beach
*Movie theater
*Pier

===Suspects===
*Butler
*Blue hat man
*Maid
*Blonde woman
*[[Wikipedia:John McEnroe|John McEnroe]] (I think — recall that Homestar [[:Image:Homestar JohnMcEnroe.PNG|previously dressed up as him]])
*Mechanic
*Old Woman
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Red hat man

===Items===
*[[Egg]]
*Potted plant
*Strawberry
*[[Alcohol|Beer]]
*Pencil
*Bomb
*Duffel bag
*Monkey wrench
*Slingshot
*Cat

I think once the locations, items, suspects are re-ordered, we can pull the stub tag off the article. Lots of great info and we have the basics now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:The proposed Kid Speedy is still listed as "Red-haired boy" on the page. Also, he could be [[Ron Cumberdale]] instead. [[User:72.133.214.202|72.133.214.202]] 04:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

== Item Talk ==

I have noticed, if people talk about an item when you question them about the egg, talk about the item. They will then tell you a person, and a place. If the person is at that place with the item, they usually have the egg. If they ARN'T at that spot, the one who gave you the info usually has the egg. Anyone have this not happen? (Notice I said USUALLY)--[[User:Bobmuffins|Bobmuffins]] 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

'''HE'S BOTH!''' 13:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

== Painfully dumb question... ==

How do you play the game if you don't speak or read Russian?
:Actual game play requires no knowledge of Russian, since it done completely with pictures. The Russian writing is meaningless or poorly done, anyway. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

- Hey; erm, I have no real idea about wiki ettiquete but I just wanted to say that the Russian is all more or less correct and certainly not meaningless. Here goes: The title, 'gde yaitso' indeed means 'where is the/an egg?' (although the dash in the middle is not needed) - the reference to 'gde yaichko' that is made on the corresponding wiki article on this topic is wrong; 'yaichko' is a diminuitive form roughly equivalent to 'eggy'. 'Gde yaitso' i.e. as written in the game is the best translatoin for 'Where's an Egg?'. On the loading screen, 'televizionniy elektricheskiy' - 'televisual electrical' is fairly senseless but apart from that, the rest of the russian is correct. When you shoot the egg-haver, 'vinovnik' (criminal) appears, and then 'pozdravlenie' (congratulations). If you get it wrong, 'vinovnik' again appears, followed by 'gulag' (russians tend to use the simpler word 'lager'' but gulag is a russian acronym) and then 'igra zakonchenniy' - the only real example of incorrect grammar. It means 'game over' but should be 'igra zakonchennaya' to account for the feminine gender of 'igra'. Hardly 'meaningless or poorly done'. I was pretty surprised with the quality of the russian, to be honest
:: Since it clear you know Russian, and I definitely do not, I would bow to your superior knowledge. In this case, I would say writing up this information in the wiki directly would be much appreciated. (Perhaps under a translation section?) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Russian text is only used for the title screen and the "congraturatory" address. "Dialogue" in the game itself is handled through pictograms ("Blue Rabbit's Climate Chaos" comes to mind, although this is much more simplistic). Basically, you go around "investigating" each area, confirming which characters are where and which items they're holding, and questioning the characters about other characters and items; if you find someone who's lying, odds are he/she is the culprit, and you do what any good renegade Russian detective would: you shoot them! ^_^--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 19:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

: Actually, I find that about half the suspects lie, whether they have the egg or not. But really, since everyone either always lies or always tells the truth, all you have to do is find someone who gives you a clue about the egg and says even one other true thing. (Don't bother asking anyone, truthteller or liar, about him/herself or his/her own item, though.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Too many colors==
When you hover over a button, it gradients from gray to yellow (and back again when you remove) Thats waaaaay too many shades of yellow for a game like this. Maybe put this in remarks or goofs. I have bad edit etiquette :P
:Hardly. I think the gradient is a nice touch, and it was definitely intentional, as part of the game. Definitely not a goof. [[User:The 3000th flare|The_3000th_Flare]]
::This is a ridiculous claim, and I will have no part in this discussion... oh crap, I already did. So, best thing to do is... to go back and not listen to that message, and then we've got nothing to worry about. Oh, wait... in fact...
::...tcaf ni ...tiaw ,hO .tuoba yrrow ot gnihton tog ev'ew neht dna ,egassem taht ot netsil ton dna kcab og ot ...si od ot gniht tseb ,oS .did ydaerla I ,parc ho ...noissucsid siht ni trap on evah lliw I dna ,mialc suolucidir a si sihT
::Okay, there. I think I reversed it. What? What do you ''mean'' that doesn't work? Oh, crap. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

==Screen shot==
Since the game is out for reals and looks different from the preview shot that was originally up, shouldn't we use a screen shot of actual game play? Do we include both images on the page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I went ahead and replaced the old image with the new one, since that's what we did with [[Kid Speedy]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Maid ==
[[Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png|thumb|Totally a butcher.]]
Which person is supposed to be the maid? Process of elimination of all the other characters left a person who appears to be a butcher.--[[User:Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel|Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel]] 21:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Also, which one is supposed to be the movie theater? Process of elimination left what resembles the Lincoln Memorial.

I think the one with the red rope and yellowish wall is the movie theater.- [[User:70.243.66.159|70.243.66.159]] 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC) (Everybody! Sorry, forgot to sign in...)

== Ending Screen ==

That's not a police station, it's Lenin's Mausoleum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum)
:Apparently we don't know too much 'bout Russia. Thanks for pointing that out! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Also the word vinovnik (виновник) would be better translated as "guilty person". Criminal is prestupnik (преступник) in Russian.

We would probably use "culprit" in English.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

That "uniformed man" looks like Stalin [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Stalin_02.jpg]. Well, as much as 'good graphics' can allow, anyways ;). It's got his mustache. Given that the game seems to be set in Soviet Russia, there is more than a good chance that it's suppose to be Stalin. What does everyone else thing? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|23:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)}}

:I'm all for it. It looks enough like him to me, and it certainly fits with the Russian theme. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

::It seems very likely. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:Does anyone not think it's Stalin?

::I think it ''could'' be, but are we sure enough for this not to be considered undue speculation? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::To me, it has the following point for it being Stalin:
:::the setting is Soivet Russia
:::the medal is given out at Lenin's Mausoleum, and Stalin stood atop of Lenin's Mausoleum during the post-WWII victory parade (it's the kind of place a Soviet dictator would give out a medal)
:::The mustache and uniform look like Stalin's, and not like any other Soviet dictator (No other Soviet dictator had a mustach like that, although Lenin did have a goatee, he wasn't known for wearing a uniform and would, persumably, be in his tomb)
:::Stalin might actually want someone shot for stealing an egg (and I'm only half joking on that last one)
::I don't see any points against it being Stalin. I cannot discount it being some other uniformed mustachio'd Soviet authority figure, like some head of the KGB or something, but no others come to mind
::Does anyone know someone else that might fit that discritpion? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|02:12, 18 July 2007}}

:::I '''strongly oppose''' the idea that it's Stalin. It's just a guy in a uniform. There were many of those if Soviet Russia, Lenin's tomb was used by every Soviet leader for parades, and Stalin was dead years before those spacecrafts were launched. I also see absoluetly no persuavive reason why it ''should'' be Stalin.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::::I see your point, but I don't think the timeline matters too much — John McEnroe wasn't even born when Sputnik was launched, for example. Rather, I think these other famous historical Russian appearances strengthen the case for it being Stalin. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Stalin is in this game, but not the uniformed man. It's the man pictured immediately above this thread.
:::::: Were it not for the timeline, I would say it was certainly Stalin. Both the mustache and uniform are too close to be coincidence. Even with the timeline problems, I think Stalin is still the best fit. He is certainly the most obvious mustached man in a Russian uniform. In fact I can't think of any other who would be appropriate. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:::What is being ignored, perhaps, is the quote of Stalin's (though far from originally his) that "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs." It is often falsely attributed to him. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7RNWN&q=Make+omelet+breaking+eggs+stalin Do I really need to give you a google link to it?]

== Suspect and location images ==

While the suspect and location images were originally icons, they have now been overwritten with full-sized images. Personally, I prefer the icons for three reasons:
#The full body characters are much taller than the rest of the images, which makes the table look a little lopsided.
#<s>The icon images are pixel-for-pixel, whereas there are some cropping issues with the full-sized images (compare the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716220648%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png butcher icon}} with the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716235952%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png full-body butcher}})</s> (fixed)
#We don't need to illustrate every component of the game completely, just give an icon for identification purposes.
Does anyone agree, or are we happy with the staus quo? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: I think the table is fine as is, especially with the ability to expand the locations to a larger size. Perhaps making the size of the icons closer to the same size (using the item icons as a guide)? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

::The icons are fine by me, alhtough the cropping issues can easily be fixed. If you think reverting back to icons is the better choice, by all means, go for it. I don't see a problem with keeping the locations as full shots, however. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Names of People, Places and iTems ==

Using a decompiler, the names are '''Jessifer, Pall, Brodermaker, Mancuso, Damella, Deark, Gubby, Les and Joeff'''. The places are called '''Seward Lane, Hollway, A Room, Gym, Bank, Gumption Road, Upstairs, Nearby and Under'''. The items are called '''Bottle, Ball, Butterfly, Dog, Gym Bag, Fanny Pack, Frying Pan, Candlestick and Laptop'''. Not sure which is which. I might have another look later on when I'm home from school.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:That's crazy :P Especially since some of those names bear little resemblance to the items... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm more surprised they put all the names there. By the way, nice work on the [[looking old]] reference. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a Flash decompiler and I'm not finding these names anywhere in the image files. Where are YOU finding them? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: Never mind; I found them, but I see no indication of which is which, unless they define them in numerical order as the images appear (and who could tell - there aren't any bottles or balls to be seen anyway!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The internal names Loafing listed don't appear to actually be used anywhere... the only time these lists of names are even mentioned is that the list of placenames is added to a non-existant (or no-longer-existant) drop-down list on the map screen (possibly a stub, before they made the pretty buttons?). They seem to only be there for debugging purposes. However, it's reasonable to assume that, as debugging tools, they're in the same order as the numerical ids that everything's stored with, which'll make them:
{| border="0"
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Places
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Seward Lane || Aquarium
|-
| Hollway || Park
|-
| A Room || Icy Mountains
|-
| Gym || Bank
|-
| Bank || Beach
|-
| Gumption Road || Desert
|-
| Upstairs || City
|-
| Nearby || Art Museum
|-
| Under || Bridge
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Items
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Bottle || Wrench
|-
| Ball || Beer
|-
| Butterfly || Cat
|-
| Dog || Slingshot
|-
| Gym Bag || Pencil
|-
| Fanny Pack || Gym Bag
|-
| Frying Pan || Bomb
|-
| Candlestick || Potted Plant
|-
| Laptop || Strawberry
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | People
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Jessifer || Blonde Woman
|-
| Pall || Blue hat man
|-
| Brodermaker || Old Woman
|-
| Mancuso || Butler
|-
| Damella || Mechanic
|-
| Deark || Red hat man
|-
| Gubby || Butcher
|-
| Les || Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale
|-
| Joeff || John McEnroe
|}
|}
It seems clear that these debugging names were used ''well before'' the current art was made... it's odd that the one named "Bank" is one ''after'' the real Bank, and the "Gym Bag" is one ''before'' the real Gym Bag... but that's the order they are in the Flash file. I don't think the names warrant mentioning in the article... which is why I made the full tables here on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

: We should definitely keep our names in the articles; they're much clearer [[User:The 3000th flare|The_3000th_Flare]] 18:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
::I think we should put TBC names in the Trivia section. [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 14:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== The Manual ==

The manual page is really funny in the way, that its English translation is more correct then the original Russian text :)

* The word at the top of the page "Узнать" (Uznat') is correct, it really does mean "Find out";
* The line "Кто лежит?" (Kto lezhit?) is a mistake and actually means here "Who is lying on the ground?" rather then "Who is telling lies/lying?". This is because in English the verb "to lie" can mean both of those things, but in Russian it's "лежать" (lezhat') for "lying on the ground" and "лгать" (lgat') for "telling the lies/lying". So the line should be "Кто лжет?" (Kto lzhet?);
* The line "Кто говорит правду?" (Kto govorit pravdu?) is correct, it does mean "Who tells the truth?";
* The line "Кто имеет яйцо?" (Kto imeet yaico?) is a bit incorrect and means "Who owns an egg?". "У кого яйцо?" (U kogo yaico?) could be translated as "Who has the egg?"

Another note: The Arbat ST. (location of the seller) is a well-known street in Moscow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbat_Street).
: This would be excellent information for the [[Some Type of Online Auction]] page, where the Arbat Street reference is already noted. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Musie Theater? ==

I'm quite confident that the image given the label "Theater" is actually the museum. It looks just like an art museum display and... not at all like a movie theater. The other one's kind of ambiguous as to WHAT it is, but I'm quite sure on the "Theater". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:The other one looks like some kinda government building. Maybe if someone could translate the Russian on the building, it would shed some light on this? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:For now, I swapped the Theater one (pictures with a velvet rope) in the correct place. (Compare with the theater in [[the movies]]) I did notice that the one current marked "Museum" has some Russian writing on it. If someone would translate that, in addition to finding out what how the image is marked internally, for now it's probably better to leave the images where they are. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::You... you swapped it from my swap. The one with the ropes looks more like an art museum. Why would the ropes be so close to the pictures otherwise? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I have seen plenty of movie theaters that have velvet ropes along the walls; they are used when they have people line up before the start of movie for a major opening. The other picture is clearly ''not'' a movie theater, so we need to wait until we have further info. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: But who was it that called it a "movie theater" in the first place? US! There is no "further info" besides maybe someone with a flash compiler or a translation of the pillar building. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: Know what? Forget it. I don't want an edit war. I'm compromising with simple descriptions no one can dispute. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks from [[#Names of People, Places and iTems|above]] that one of these (probably the one with the pillars) is a bank, but who knows with the weirdness of the rest of the names. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:If the one current marked as Museum is indeed a bank, I would have no problem making the other a museum. Right now, it's unclear. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so can we call the one with the velvet ropes a "Museum" now? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that sounds reasonable. At first, I thought it was a movie theater, but the more I look at it, the more those look like pieces of art. Especially the one on the left. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::And y'know - who named that last one a "pier"? Looks more like a bridge to me. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The gray one with what looks like "bEPER" on it is a bank. "берег" is Russian for "bank" according to some online English-Russian dictionary I just Googled. I submit that the one with the velvet ropes is an art musuem. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:About the museum one, I think it's an ''art'' museum. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Glitch or not? ==

Someone on the forums mentioned a glitch where, if you click on the top left corner a lot of times as the game starts, you can win with a timer score of 000. This is only if the person in the aquarium has the egg. I tried it and it worked, but I'm not sure if it's really a glitch or not. Thoughts? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Additionally, each time I've done it (by clicking the area of the screen where the Aquarium icon and gun icon overlap) the timer freezes at 000, but at the "Win" screen the timer reads 999 and all three spacecraft appear. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:: Just reproduced it myself, although given other Flash-related artifacts like this, I imagine that the way-way-way-way-way-too-generous timer starts at 1000 and it just chops off the first digit... and perhaps drops it down to a normal value afterwards. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Don't know if it's really a "glitch" if it only works when the suspect in the ''aquarium'' has the egg. That would make it more a matter of luck. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Glitches that only happen under specific circumstances are still glitches. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but if the person in the aquarium has the egg, all you need to do is keep clicking the top left to finish the game in less than a second. That combined with the explanation you gave earlier about the timer actually being 1000 seconds, ''I'' think, completely disproves the glitch theory. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::The internal timer variable starts at 999 (which is what you see at the "win" screen), but the display in-game starts at 000 (not 1000) and is only updated a second after the game starts, the first time the "update timer" function's called. I think this qualifies as a minor glitch (namely that the display doesn't match the actual timer value for a second after the game starts). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqQ-r2mGe0Q Here] is a link to a video on youtube which shows someone winning when the timer displays 000. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 15:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I don't consider this to be a glitch — just somebody beating the game really quickly with 1000 seconds left on the clock (which looks like 000 because only three digits are permitted). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::But it's not 1000 seconds left on the clock - it's 999 seconds (as you can see at the win screen). The "glitch" is that the timer isn't visibly incremented down until it gets to 998.-{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah. I just managed to do that, twice! But yeah, it's not visibly incremented until a few seconds after the start of the game. — {{User:Znex/sig}} 05:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Jack Orlando ==

Can anyone confirm the "Jack Orlando" Real-World Reference? The screenshots I've seen of that game look absolutely nothing like this one. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Dead People Tell Tales? ==

When I play the game, I killed someone and ask him about something and he replyed with a + sign. This should go into remarks I think. - Toonypie from the Fanstuff Wiki.

: It's a red cross - they're only capable of answering questions with requests for medical aid, seeing as how they've been shot and all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==5 Time win with no intention==
I won 5 times in this game just by going around and shooting 3 random people. It was awesome. YOU should try it!-MikeControl
:I think more people would be interested if you told them on the IRC channel. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: You have a one-in-three chance of getting it right by shooting random people. Those aren't terrible odds, so your five times in a row was just luck. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:: That was sheer luck. I accidentally got 998 by clicking the gun after clicking the aquarium. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::(1/3)^5 = 1/243. That's some luck. {{unsigned|68.121.111.150|12:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)}}
:::He never actually said he won five times in a row, just that he won five times. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:38%, not 33%. 1/9 (.111) on the first shot, 1/8 (.125) to then get it on the second and 1/7 (.143) to then get it on the third. 37.9%. Big deal you say? .379^5 is 1/128. But yeah, don't know that it was five consecutive.--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 07:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's 33%. You're picking three of nine. If you really want to compute it the hard way, you have to take into account the probability of choosing incorrectly on the first and second tries. So, there's a 1/9 (.111) chance of being right on the first try, a 8/9 * 1/8 (.888 * .125) chance of being wrong on the first try and right on the second try, and a 8/9 * 7/8 * 1/7 (.888 * .825 * .143) chance of being wrong twice and then right. Add them all up and you get -- surprise, surprise -- a .333 chance of winning by shooting at random.

== Fabergé eggs? ==

When you talk about Russian eggs being stolen, it's almost certain that this is a reference to [[wikipedia:Fabergé_Eggs|Fabergé eggs]]. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:I guess it could be a reference to Fabergé eggs. But it could also be [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think the egg being stolen is just a joke (because no one would shoot a person to get back a stolen ''egg''). {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It could also be a reference to comunism (sp?) where nobody is allowed to have more than anouther person. [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 14:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Strategy shortcut ==

:''Because they cannot provide you with useful information, it is worthwhile to shoot the first two suspects you know to be lying. One of them might just have the egg.''
I'm not sure why this keeps getting removed. It seems like a reasonable strategy to me. After you've played the game a bit, you know you really only need one bullet. The other two are just going to waste. Why not use them on the liars? Their info is no good, and you may get lucky and finish with a better time. If it doesn't work out, then you've still got your last bullet to use in the conventional way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:What's a waste of time is shooting suspects who may not have the egg. It's much better to be sure who the real culprit is than to leave it to luck, even if it turns out to be someone you've seen before. Like [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=599475&highlight=#599475 this trick] I use. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::It takes just over one extra second to shoot the liars. That seems an acceptable tradeoff for the amount of time it would take to keep going normally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Well of course you can use any other strategy and just shoot any liars you come across. But that doesn't make this a strategy in itself. Any player could simply decide to do that; it doesn't take any real thought. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 22:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No real thought? ''Au contraire!'' The suggestion is not to shoot people ''indiscriminantly'', but to shoot the first two liars you see (which takes some determining). You're not going back to a location where a liar is anyway—unless you have to confront the egg holder there. You could save a lot of time by going ahead and using your spare bullets before you leave the location. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Uh, that's exactly what I just said. This does not take any "real thought" because it is not a strategy as much as it is an add-on to another strategy. Yes it takes "some determining" to recognize liars, but methods for doing so are described in any strategy (including strategies we don't know). And it is not "worthwhile" to shoot the first known liars because it is so uncertain whether they would actually have the egg; the point of a solid strategy is ensuring correctness. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Note that the way the game works, you don't lose anything for shooting innocent civilians, except the brief second it takes for the detour of the mouse. You only lose out if you get it wrong three times. So a strategy doesn't have to be certain or get it right first time to be "correct" or "worthwhile". The only thing you're graded on is how long it takes you to find the right culprit, on your third guess or better. Anything that speeds that up is worthwhile. Just 'cause shooting people "just in case" or guessing in detective work is generally considered a bad idea in real life doesn't mean it isn't sensible in the context of the game. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'm inclined to agree with [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. You don't lose anything if you shoot two liars, except maybe a second, and the odds of getting lucky and shooting the guilty party are not all that bad. Additionally many people would not necessarily think of "Wasting" bullets on innocent civilians, so it is a worthwhile thing to record. — {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 20:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I added a new strategy paragraph dealing with an observation I made regarding "bad liars". I wasn't really sure if it might be considered a goof or if it was obviously intentional. Specifically, I had the Old Lady answer "potted plant" to two different suspects and then answer with her own picture when questioned about two different items that were not her own. Additionally, I had a later session where a character indicated the mechanic when asked about the beer, but when asked about the mechanic, answered "pencil". I'm starting to wonder if all liars will have some sort of inconsistency in their stories. And does anyone know if the Egg Haver is always a liar? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 06:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

:I recently did no less than 20 trials in a row. Every single time the person with the egg was a liar. Short of decompiling the flash, which is beyond my ability, I'm not sure if there is a way to truely know, but 20/20 seems pretty convincing. One other thing I paid attention to was if the person with the egg reliably pointed at someone else. More often than not, he was a "?," but considering most people are "?" I suspect this isn't an indicator.
:Assuming that the egg holder is alway a a liar, which I have come to belive he is, and considering that there are generally 3-4 liars, you have a 2/3-2/4 chance of discovering the egg holder just by shooting liars, which I'd say is actually a pretty decent strategy.
:Sometimes this strategy of discovering liars gives some amusing results, The most amusing one I encountered though was a liar who said he was the person with the egg, but didn't have it.[[User:75.180.26.208|75.180.26.208]] 08:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I've decompiled it and am browsing through the script now. I'm not a professional programmer, but some of it is fairly straightforward. Interestingly enough, I think I've already found a programming error that explains a strange response I documented earlier. The code that tells a liar what suspect to answer when questioned about an item checks that the random answer doesn't match the liar's "item ID" instead of correctly checking against the liar's "suspect ID". This means that a liar can answer with their own face when questioned about an item that isn't theirs. That's definitely a glitch. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
:::No, it isn't. It is indeed a lie to say you have it when you don't. I suppose one could argue that it would have been better to program it so no one falsely incriminates themselves, but that's hardly a glitch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ok, here we go - each section of the decompiled script has checks to ensure that a liar does not give their own location, item, or photo (or the "correct" ones, for that matter) as an answer when questioned about another item or person. However, when a liar is questioned about an item, and is randomly assigned to answer with a photo (as opposed to a location), there is a check against an ITEM ID instead of a SUSPECT ID, which is incorrect. I'm adding the relevant items back into the article, and have posted the offending source code snippet to [[User_Talk:ReverendTed|my Talk page]], because I didn't want to clutter up this discussion page with it. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 18:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles? ==

I don't know if Where's an Egg? is one of the games that can be subtitled, but if so it could be neat to include approximate translations of the Russian...

My guess is that it's not possible to subtitle, though... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your guess is wrong. {{User:Mee/sig}} 22:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Well, partially — I was only able to subtitle [[Subtitles:wheresanegg/en|part of it]], since the rest of the text is embedded in movie files, I think. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

At the begining, when the Videlectrix logo apears, but before the guy shoots at it, the music playing is The Volga Boatmen's Song, traditional Russian song.

:That's awesome. (I just verified it) Great find! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Ron Cumberdale ==

The character listed as "Kid Speedy" has red hair, but the real Kid Speedy has brown/gray hair. Ron Cumberdale from Peasant's Quest, however, has the same shirt AND red hair. Edit? [[User:75.119.20.104|75.119.20.104]] 01:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:<s>I agree. I think "Kid Speedy" is just an updated version of [[Ron Cumberdale]].</s> On second thought, I disagree. Look at these three photos.

<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png|WAE? suspect
Image:kidspeedy.PNG|Kid Speedy
Image:roncumberdale.PNG|Ron Cumberdale
</gallery>

The skin tone, dark red shorts, same darkred/white striped shirt, and red shoes all match. It's Kid Speedy. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

As the one who originally suggested it as Kid Speedy, I concur with the original. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:I agree — I think it's Kid Speedy. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I was agreeing with the first one. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. In that case, I disagree — I think it's Kid Speedy. He's fat and has shorts instead of pants... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I just edited it and put Kid Speedy back but kept the Ron Cumberdale thing in. Basically, we don't know who it is unless someone got told it was Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale by TBC. They're the only ones who truly know. — {{User:Znex/sig}} 09:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I propose that it's "Kid Cumberdale" -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::No way. That's totally Ron Speedy. (Jeepers, that sounds like a bad Golden Age superhero...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ron Speedy IS Kid Cumberdale IN "Where's an Egg?", an epic tale of crime and corruption where Justice isn't all it's cracked up to be - coming soon to a theater near you! -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 06:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

==Dynamic Music==

Has anyone else noticed how there is a base music track, and depending on which suspect you are interrogating, changes the extra line on top of it? eg, when you're interrogating blue guy with red hat, there's a sliding squarewave melody, and at the end when you get the medal, it has all the lines.
:Ummm...there's already a section about this back up the page. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Explanation about the Missing Points in my Last Edit ==

If around one hour ago, you were wondering why that the red cross reply point and the Stalin point were missing, I can explain everything. Before, I think I reverted the page or something by accident to the last time that it had Kid Speedy in the characters thing and that version happened to not have those things. So sorry about that. Sorry. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Not The Egg ==

It seems rather clear thar "an egg" has an integral article--it is refered to as such even in situations where "the egg" would be more appropriate, as it is clear this egg is the only egg in the game. --[[User:71.221.232.189|71.221.232.189]] 17:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a deliberate mistake by TBC, as it is dificult to determin in Russian, wether it's supposed to read "an egg" or "the egg". Let me explain, this game is (presumably) supposed to look like it was made in Russia, then brought over here and had it's title poorly translated. That is really a joke by TBC, as it parodies how forgin games often have poor translation - like all the "Engrish" that has been put into the Stinkoman games. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 16:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Translation Error ==

This is not the first time there has been a synonym based mistranslation on the site. Here, they used the russian word for river bank instead of financial bank. In Unnatural, Bub's title in Jappanese was "Man of Concession" meaning compromise instead of vending. Think this should be mentioned?
:Nah, it could be a word pun and TBC just did it because it means different things. — {{User:Znex/sig}}
::I don't know whether it's noteworthy yet, but it is an interesting observation. TBC are obviously using some less-than-reliable method for generating their translations (although it makes me happy that they're trying to make stuff not just be gibberish). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps they used Babelfish? — {{User:Znex/sig}}
::::Nah, it's not Babelfish, that translates "Bank" as "Крен" (kren). Google Translate translates it as "Банка" (banka). However, Google finds http://www.rustran.com/ which, although it translates "Bank" as "Банк", it translates "Who is lying?" as "Кто лежит?" and "Who has an egg?" as "Кто имеет яйцо?" – both are the wording used in [[eggction]], and both are claimed to be wrong in that article. It even translates "Where's an egg?" as "Где - яйцо?", hyphen included. It's near the top of the Google results for "english russian translator" so I think it's reasonable to think they did a similar Google search, and used this site. I'm not quite sure how they got it to say "берег" but I'll keep prodding it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:57, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I was the one who first noted the берег-bank thing, and I figured it out using a Russian-English dictionary I found using a Google search and plugging in "museum" and "bank" into it to see if anything matched the inscription on the building. I'll see if I can find that link and see if the rest of the stuff translates the same as well. Ok, I found it here [[http://www.freedict.com/onldict/rus.html]] but, being a dictionary, it doesn't translate phrases - only single words. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::An older example of this situation is Strong Bad's "Stark Dålig" from [[little questions]], since the latter word translates as "of poor quality". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

==Sbemail Reference==
There is no reference on the page anywhere to the sbemail that mentioned the game, i think it should be here
:That is because none of the sbemails mention this game. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think it was listed on a floppy disk once, but I've never seen those noted in Inside References elsewhere, so... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It was on a [[floppy disk container|floppy disk]] in the introductions for [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three]] and [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Disc Five]], but not in a Strong Bad Email. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Decompiled Script Findings ==

I'm going to edit this as I find things in the decompiled script.
*The suspect who has an Egg is always a liar.
*A liar's answers are randomly assigned for each suspect and item and are checked to ensure they aren't accidentally "correct". They're also checked to ensure a liar doesn't answer with their own location, item, or picture, but the item-question photo-answer check has a programming error that causes it to malfunction. The way they are randomly assigned almost guarantees that there will be some sort of inconsistency in a liar's answers (two of the same answers for different questions, or logical breaks like "suspect A has item 1 but item 1 belongs to suspect B").
*People have been suggesting that there are 3 or 4 liars per game, but the code seems to indicate 5 liars are assigned, meaning that there would be 5 or 6 liars per game depending on if it tried to assign "liar" status to the egg holder (who is already a liar). So far, my in-game tests are confirming this.
*One honest suspect is selected at random to answer correctly about an Egg. Three additional suspects are then chosen at random (which could include the one already selected) to give an answer about an Egg, which will be correct or incorrect based on whether that suspect is honest or a liar. This means there will be 3 or 4 suspects who will give an answer about an Egg, and at least one will be correct.
-{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 19:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

==Programming error==
"A programming error allows a liar to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs". The liar always responds with a lie. How is it a goof that he lies and claims to own an item he does not? In traditional one-person-always-lies one-person-always-tells-the-truth logic puzzles, this is one way to out the liar, by asking him a question about himself. [[User:Nard|Nard]] 00:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:I agree with you — I wouldn't call that a goof. Actually, I think it's pretty hilarious; one time the butler told me had the egg, so I shot him. He did not have the egg. Anyways, I agree, and I think that the fact should be moved to Remarks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::If it's something TBC could have avoided, Remarks, otherwise, Glitches. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Definitely not a glitch - how can we be sure this wasn't intentional to offer the player a strategic tool? It can be a remark, so long as we do not suppose it's a mistake, but just the way things were done. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:This is a goof - it's a programming error explained in the "Decompiled Script Findings" just above this section, and I've got the offending source-code snippet on my Talk page to prove it. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::You speak as if you're sure this was unintended. Can you really be so sure? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::If it is a goof, then it's pretty dang minor if the only thing it does is make the liars lie. So what if you found a faulty code snippet? They probably noticed the mistake, then realized the mistake made it do what it was supposed to do anyway, and left it alone. It's certianly not worth mentioning a mistake that could only ever be noticed by ripping the Flash file to shreds.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 06:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
After looking at [[User talk:ReverendTed#Where's An Egg Source Code Snippet|the code]], I agree with ReverendTed that this is definitely a goof. Here is the relevant part, in English:
*You the player ask a suspect about one of the items.
*The game randomly selects whether the suspect will reply with a person or a place.
*If it selects to reply with a person, it then checks whether the suspect is a liar.
*If the suspect is a liar, the game randomly chooses a reply.
*The game first checks to make sure the randomly-chosen person is not the real answer to the question (otherwise the suspect wouldn't be lying).
*Then it checks to make sure the randomly-chosen person is not the same as the item at the current location. For example, "Is the man in the red hat equal to the pencil?" (Notice it doesn't ask whether the man ''has'' the pencil, but whether the man ''is'' the pencil.) The answer to this question can never be true (at least, not the way they intended; see ReverendTed's note below), and thus it is possible for a suspect to reply with their own face. For the question to make sense, the game should check whether the randomly-chosen person is the same as the person at the current location.
When the game makes similar checks in other places, the code is correct:
*If you ask about an item and a liar replies with a place, the game checks to make sure the randomly-chosen place is not the current location.
*If you ask a liar about a person, the game checks to make sure that either randomly-chosen item is not the item at the current location or that the randomly-chosen place is not the current location.
Even though this error results in a slight advantage for the player, I don't believe it was intentional on the part of the programmer. Otherwise, instead of having the game check to see whether characters are the same as items, it just wouldn't check anything at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:But still, all the goof does is make the liar lie. The only way it could possibly be known that it's a goof is by decompiling the Flash file and reading the script. This would be like if they had a comment tag in a script that said <code><//-- make marsipans face turn red here --//></code>, and we listed the goof that they misspelled Marzipan. The goof is irrelevant outside the code.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:38, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::No, that would be entirely different. That scenario would not affect anything in the toon, but this programming error actually affects the game. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 16:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::But in a way that is virtually unnoticable--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::The goof does not make the liar lie. What's happening is that the program is trying to make sure the liar doesn't reply with his or her own face, but the goof prevents this check from ever happening. I would not characterize this as "virtually unnoticeable". In fact, when a suspect replies with his or her own face, it is ''very'' noticeable. In addition, we are looking at the code for clues about the actual gameplay, not nitpicking comments. The fact that the only way to discover that this is a goof is by looking at the code does not make it less of a goof. On the contrary, I think it makes it even more interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::You ask about an item and he lies and says he has it when he doesn't. I don't see why that's such a big goof. Yeah, the program's not supposed to let him reply with his own face, but why does it matter that it does? It just makes him lie about something.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::In my opinion, the fact that you can only know it's a goof by looking at the code only makes it irrelevant to the toon. If we had a page that listed errors in the Flash files (do we?), that would be the place to list something like this.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 17:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::While playing the game, I wondered if they meant for it to work the way it does. Now, looking at the code, I can see that it was most likely a mistake, which is rightly noted in this article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, how 'bout if we at least reword it? "A programming error allows a liar to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs" makes it sound like it's obvious that they're not supposed to answer with their own face, but I don't think it's that obvious. How about "A liar isn't supposed be able to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs. A programming error allows them to do this."--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 17:20, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::It was my wording in the first place, so perhaps I'm a bit biased, but I think the original wording of the Goof ("A programming error allows a liar to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs") was the most succinct way to describe it accurately. The new wording says basically the same thing but takes a good deal longer to get the point across, though I suppose I can see the benefit of alluding to the other checks that DO function correctly. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 16:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
:One clarification to It's dot com's description above (as if this issue wasn't confounding enough already) - The person, item, and location IDs are simply numerical indexes of 1 through 9, so asking if "Person X" is Equal to "Item Y" could sometimes be true - it's just that the offending check eliminates one random person (the character whose personal ID matches the randomly-selected number of the liar's item ID) instead of eliminating the intended person (the number of the liar's personal ID). -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 16:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the timer, Phlip made {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=481346&oldid=481345 this edit}} moving it to the goofs section, and I'm assuming he had a reason for putting it there instead of glitches. I'm bringing it up here so that perhaps he or someone can shed some light on what specifically makes this a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so here's what I've found. Some aspects of the code are a little out of my league, but this is my understanding of the issue:
::*The timer graphic begins as plain text "000".
::*The internal timer itself is initialized at 999, the internal timer function calls itself (I think?), then a CallBack function is started at a 1 second interval.
::*The CallBack function (apparently after the first 1 second interval) immediately decrements the timer by 1 (to 998) and then calls the function to draw the timer.
::Unfortunately, my Windows search function is acting up, making it difficult to trace relations in the various script files, but it appears to me that the code is supposed to update the timer graphic immediately after initializing the internal timer to 999 by calling itself, but calling itself doesn't actually update the graphic (and accomplishes nothing, as far as I can tell, though this is one of those aspects of the code that I'm not entirely confident with) - since the CallBack function uses different code for that. So, I think it's a programming goof, and not necessarily a glitch. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 18:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Why are you reverting these edits? ==

I keep seeing edits being reverted that are factual, including mine and someone else's, but removed because the game isn't "russian" when there is a lot of RUSSIAN stuff in the game.
* Everything is written in russian.
* The guy at the end is a pixel look alike of Josef Stalin.
* The three spaceships that fly by are all russian made.
* The three spaceships are a reference to Tetris, a russian video game.
* The wiki itself explains that the game has russian references (read the *WHOOPS!* article, especially the trivia section!)
The edits were...
* The fact the game is in Russian meaning you can't understand what's going on and have to make guess work.
* The fact that on the "Some Type of Online Auction" page a reference to the film ''Man With the Screaming Brain'' is made, and the specific reference is about a russian.
If you're going to remove our edits of things we found in the game based on Russia then remove ALL topics in the game based on russia. Which would include the whole article!

Explain yourselves!

-<s>[[Skunk|User:Skunk]]</s> (I'm not logged in because this and others were quick edits.) ({{user|64.18.124.101}} 08:43, 10 August 2007)

:The game doesn't require any actual knowledge of Russian to play, however. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::Furthermore, even if you did know Russian, you still would be quite clueless. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 09:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

: Don't worry. It's not you. Despite the wording of the [HRWiki:Introduction|Introduction page], in my experience nobody is really allowed to contribute anything without undergoing an inordinate amount of nitpicking. I'll bet anyone $100 that if TBC themselves came to the site anonymously and made a correction that it would get reverted. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 15:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::I second that.
::*The main objective "Where's the egg?" is in Russian. Not being able to read that ''does'' make the game harder 'cause you have no idea what the crap is going on.
::*"Mobile is the future, my main man!" seems like a generic enough phrase, but if it's an exact quote, it's an exact quote. And furthermore, if the specific quote is about a Russian, it seems likely that it was intentional.
::--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Nsayer: It's easy to propose that kind of bet, given that it can't be backed up at all. Let's examine two instances of anonymous editing on [[Ryan Sterritt]]'s page. I believe that he or someone who knows him made {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ryan_Sterritt&diff=357704&oldid=354862 this collective edit}}, the information from which is still in the article. In that case, the information was relevant to the article and easily verifiable, and the nature of the edit made it easy to trust its accuracy. On the other hand, look at {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ryan_Sterritt&diff=472607&oldid=439626 this edit}}. It could have been added by Ryan, or it could be someone speculating. We have no way to know, since the editor didn't provide any information to support it. Thus, even though it might very well be true, it was removed. Surely you can see that we have to have some kind of standard for inclusion if we want our pages to be looked at as anything but haphazard guesswork. If you want to speculate, fine. We have these talk pages and the forum for that. But we should keep speculation in the articles proper to a minimum (and yes, we do make exceptions). Furthermore, you can't lump all anonymous contributions into one category. I'm all the time seeing anonnies make edits that are so good that they [[User talk:24.242.28.135|are]] [[User talk:220.239.8.173|encouraged]] [[User talk:220.239.8.173|to]] [[User talk:68.145.103.189|create]] [[User talk:72.128.106.87|an]] [[User talk:68.63.159.4|account]]. I myself was invited to join in the same manner.
:::Both you and Antisexy seem to be convinced that this editor is being unfairly beaten down by the Big Bad Wiki Machine. You don't even bother to look at the actual edits and judge them on their merits. Antisexy does at least attempt to address the edits specifically, but he's basing his arguments on what was written here on this talk page as opposed to what was put in the article. So let's look at the diffs themselves:
:::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487612&oldid=487314 Rev 487612}}: Meh, maybe this could have been reworded rather than being removed outright, but as written it's not really accurate. The game is actually played entirely through pictures, not another language per se. The Russian is just a red herring.
:::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487270&oldid=485380 Rev 487270}}: Never mind the fact that auction has [[Some Type of Online Auction|its own page]], "What is up, my main man?" is not the same as "Mobile is the future, my main man!". "My main man" is a common enough phrase (and ''Man with the Screaming Brain'' is an obscure enough movie) that I firmly believe it's a coincidence. If you convince enough people otherwise, or that the coincidence itself is worth noting, then we'll note it, but if not then we've got to draw the line ''somewhere''. Maybe you think a lot of speculation is good for articles. I, however, think it just waters them down.
:::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I '''did''' look up the actual edits and considered how well they fit in the article. I didn't see what was so wrong with them. The latter more so than the former, though.
::::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487612&oldid=487314 Rev 487612}}: "The game recreates the trial-and-error aspects and confusion of playing games in another language." Pretty much exactly what I thought when I first played it. There's certainly a lot of trial and error in figuring out how to play this game. And although there's no Russian during the actual gameplay, the Russian before and after adds greatly to the confusion. Heck, after the game was over, I wasn't even sure if I'd won or not.
::::*{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where%27s_an_Egg%3F&diff=487270&oldid=485380 Rev 487270}}: This one is so minor, that even if it was intentional, it doesn't really ''need'' to be noted. I've never heard of ''Man With the Screaming Brain''. And "mobile is the future, my main man" seems like a common enough phrase. But if it '''is''' an exact quote, and in the movie, they '''are''' talking about a Russian, that I think that'd be to much for just a coincidence. (Or is the line in the movie just "my main man?" If so, yeah, this is bogus.) If it were to be mentioned, it would be better here than on the [[Some Type of Online Auction|STOA]] page, unless we make a separate page for the manual and the auction thereof (which would be silly).
::::[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 20:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::I'd be unhappy with the first fact, because it's basically speculation. Yes, some people see the connection when they play the game, and I can definitely see this being true. But we don't know if that was the actual intention of TBC, so it's a bit too bold to claim that it is. What we usually do is note this on the talk page, as we've now done. As for the second fact, there is currently only one Google result for the phrase in question [http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22mobile%20is%20the%20future%2C%20my%20main%20man%22]. I haven't seen the movie myself, but it doesn't seem to be a quote from anywhere.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I am the one who reverted the "my main man" fact and i stand by it. To add to what loafing said, the phrase "my main man" has over [http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=%22my+main+man%22&btnG=Search&meta= 224,000 google hits], hence showing it to be a common phrase and not based on that movie. Furthermore, to Nsayer and whoever else, I judge edits based on content and content alone. There have been many times when [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=rock_opera&diff=prev&oldid=479069 I've] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Cardboard_Marzipan&diff=prev&oldid=467397 reverted] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=DNA_Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=456825 even] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=dangeresque_3&diff=prev&oldid=478669 the] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=mini-golf&diff=prev&oldid=488970 more] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=marzipan&diff=prev&oldid=487197 experienced] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quality_Time&diff=prev&oldid=487136 users]. So please stop getting all bent out of shape about your edits not getting in, and please continue to edit, and if the content is deemed good by the community, I guarantee you it will stay. Nothing to get discouraged about. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::..groan.. It's always gotta be "actual intentions," does it? Actually, I didn't really notice where this (the one about the game being hard to understand) was originally placed. It ''is'' a bit to speculative for the summary, but wouldn't be okay under Remarks??--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 21:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::If we say "The game recreates..." or anything of the like, wouldn't you think that we strongly imply that this was intentional?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, but confusion is such an obvious element in this game, how can not be intentional? Are we only debating whether or not the foreign language was an intended to add to the confusion? It seems very likely to me.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 21:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Just to get the "mobile is the future, my main man" bit out of the way, as best as I can tell, the entire phrase is a TBC original, and it only shares "my main main" with the movie. A connection isn't impossible, but it's a stretch. We seem to be in agreement on that. Regarding the other part, we're just talking about a description at the top, not so much a fun fact. We've got a bit of latitude to say what we want. Part of the humor of the game is that you have to figure out what the crap is going on, which I believe is completely intentional, and we should comment on it if it can be worded concisely. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::So it's all down to the wording, is that it? How about "The Russian text in the game is intended to confuse the player, but the game itself is played almost entirely through pictures." (eh, not too good). If we ''can'' word it efficiently, I think we should also have the reader refer to the Translations section. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Hmm... Well, I went up to read the opening summary as it is now to see how we might be able to fit all that in, but now that I look at it, the direct quote from Videlectrix does a pretty good job at summing up confusion and foreign language/bad translation. So then... I guess it's fine as is. I still think the original edit "The game recreates the trial-and-error aspects and confusion of playing games in another language" would look nice and pretty in remarks, but I guess I'm the only one.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 22:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Meh, it seems to obvious for a full-fledged remark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

==Russian dialogue==
Why is the dialogue in Russian? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 07:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Why not? =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Tron ==

Does anyone think that [[:Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Mechanic.png|one of the men]] is Tron? I think he looks a lot like a pixelated version of him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:no way to really tell. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
::I disagree with both of you. I think it's easy to tell that he doesn't look like Tron all that much at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

== Heavy plays "Where's an Egg?" ==

In ''[[Poker Night at the Inventory]]'', the Heavy reveals that he only plays one video game. To [[Strong Bad]]'s surprise, it's ''Where's an Egg?'' Should this be mentioned in the article? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 23:32, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Poker Night at the Inventory

SnakeBoxer202 — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:05:39 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /**/Relations to other characters

==does this need to be a page?==
I was thinking that since it isn't an actual Homestar game, it might not deserve an article. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 01:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:If it features [[Strong Bad]] and is made by [[TBC]] in some part then it definitely belongs in the wiki. I don't see how it could not. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:Since it will be featuring what is arguably hr.com's most popular character, I think it deserves an article. However, it will be a stub until the game comes out and we can analyze it. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 01:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, we shouldn't delete this because when the game comes out, we'll have more information about it. ''Than'' we'll discuss if it should stay. So I say '''Keep for now.''' {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 02:07, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

well, even though its REALLY not a Strong Bad game, Strong Bad is a main character and he makes a large appearance. This by far deserves its own page. If the couch has its own page, a product should have its own page.
: I see no reason not to. It's no different than the Mario Wiki having an article on Super Smash Bros. or TFWiki having an article on Dream Mix TV despite not being "pure" entries in their respective franchises. If a Homestar character takes a central role and the product is endorsed by TBC, then it deserves its own article. Hell, if it's anything like Telltale Texas Hold 'em, the transcript article is going to be MASSIVE. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 03:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:: I can't believe this is even in question. It is an official game with Strong Bad as a playable character, licensed by the Brothers Chaps, using a model from a previous game, and presumably voiced by Matt. This is most certainly noteworthy. As for the transcript, a seperate page for dialouge, like the SBCG4AP ones, seems like an answer. Should it focus on Strong Bad's lines only, Strong Bad's lines and their responses, or, dare I say it, a complete transcript?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 20:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Everyone has a right to their opinion, Jellote. And as for the transcript: I think it should have all of Strong Bad's responses, and other players' responses as needed. It all depends on how the game is executed. I have a feeling, though, that it will turn into a bit of a debate when the game comes out. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 00:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
This is aimed at Cyberlink420: According to the Telltale crew, this game has more dialogue than a Sam & Max episode
:Any transcript might be overkill. At least with [[SBCG4AP]], certain triggers would occur to help organize the massive dialog trees. If there are set pieces that might work, however. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
== Swears? ==
I don't find the promotional artwork with a "swear" that the article refers to. Little help? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:It appears to have originated from a "VIP" site. Look at comment #671 [http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18930&page=34 here.] I'll look for this fabled VIP site some more. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 02:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:Ah. [http://vip.telltalegames.com/files/pokernight/screens090210/ Here we go.] I haven't gone through all the images, but the claim that swears will be on the game originated from the forum, and the VIP pictures the user referred to came from this link. <strike>This rumor doesn't seem to have much meat on it.</strike> --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 03:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:Well, this is rather embarrassing. [http://vip.telltalegames.com/files/pokernight/screens090210/Poker%20Poster%20Tycho%203x6.jpg I was wrong.] --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 03:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::For what it's worth, Telltale reps have confirmed the cursing will either be bleeped or have the option to be bleeped. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Heavy Weapons Guy Name ==
[http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory&diff=708355&oldid=708354 There is] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory&diff=708379&oldid=708376 clearly] [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory&diff=708389&oldid=708388 disagreement] with HWG's name. First off, both of the article's entries [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory&diff=708440&oldid=708417 should be consistent]. Second, should this disagreement continue it should be settled here on this talk page along with accompanying research supporting either claim. Should both claims have merit, we'll host a game of [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13221673/ rock, paper, scissors]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:I've heard arguments from both sides, but I'm kind of leaning towards The Heavy. There was one argument that kind of stuck out to me: calling him "Heavy" would be like calling The Cheat "Cheat". However, I am by no means an authority on the subject. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 23:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm willing to accept that. I mean, his full name ''is'' "Heavy Weapons Guy" - it was that in ''QuakeWorld Team Fortress'', it was that in ''Team Fortress Classic'', and while it was abbreviated to "Heavy" in ''TF2'', it's still short for "Heavy Weapons Guy" as per [[Youtube:jHgZh4GV9G0|"Meet the Heavy"]]. Nevertheless, there's some fact to how nobody really uses that name in its entirety anymore. Not really worth arguing that point; however, when we're talking about the character and not just a bunch of in-game players, then it's ''the'' Heavy (eg: the difference between "the Heavy really likes to eat his Sandvich" and "crap, there are three Heavies with their guns revved around the corner, pop that Uber first"). That's my stance and I'm sticking to it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I was wrong and I apologize for the reverts. I've since seen other evidence. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

== Relations to other characters ==

Should it be mentioned how Strong Bad feels about other characters and vice versa? I read here:

http://www.gamepro.com/article/previews/216419/pax-2010-poker-night-at-the-inventory/

That Tycho and Strong Bad really hate each other. They disagree with everything. Meanwhile, the Heavy thinks Strong Bad is like a tiny Heavy. Haven't heard anything about what he thinks of Max or what Max thinks of him. - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 04:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Coach Z pukes in dude's toupee

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:13:38 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /**/The URL contained a malformed video ID.

== what i can't hear/understand ==

can anyone tell what strong bad is whispering in the beginning, and what comes after bacon-wrapped pecan--? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 01:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
: Sounds like Coach Z says "beacon-wrapped pecan-wrappés" Not sure about Strong Bad, though. Just put down "indistinct whispering" until we can find someone that knows. Kind of sounds like, "Shh shh shh, no, turn off, shh shh" After all, it is supposed to be a can-did kind of thing. [[User:Rct2guy|rct2guy]] 02:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== The URL contained a malformed video ID. ==

That's what it kept saying every time I tried the link. - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 02:13, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Team Kneepads

SnakeBoxer202 — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:03:49 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Homestar's Knees Tech */

{{tbd}}

==Another Appearance?==

Will Team Kneepads ever be reincluded?

posted by [[User:ALJ123456|ALJ123456]] at 17:38 UK time
:What do you ever mean?--[[User:Record307]]

== Lakers? ==

A fact was just added that Kneepads are probably a reference to the Los Angeles Lakers because their uniform are similar. Well... They are not that similar to me. The colors are different and the logo is not even close. Also cited is a 0.4 second shot from 2004. This seems like a real stretch to me. But I'm not American and I'm not really into sports. I know that with all the teams today, there's probably at least one that have a blue uniform with a logo more similar to the Kneepads. Any opinions? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:As a diehard Laker fan, I'm afraid I'm pretty skeptical, too. Purple and gold can mean lots of things (anyone here remember a song with the words "purple and yellow, he's one super fellow"?), and the uniforms here have nothing else in common with Laker uniforms. As for the 0.4-second shot: that was one of the greatest moments in basketball history, but there's nothing to connect it to the events in [[the paper]]]. There are some genuine Laker references in the H*R universe, but this is not one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

==Merge?==
I personally think this page should be '''merged with [[Minor Sports Teams]]'''. Other than the fact that it appeared twice, it's not exactly very notable. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:It was mentioned a third time now, in [[dictionary]]. Isn't there a rule about... Oh wait, that's jsut for running gags... Well, this sort of counts, doesn't it? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 04:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Knees Tech ==

Remember in mascot, when [[The Cheat]] was part of the CGNU Dumples facing off against Pile of Electronics State? [[Strong Bad]] mentioned next time they'll be going up against "Homestar's Knees Tech", which was probably just a joke referring to how The Cheat simply hits stuff with a golf club. But still, this time is about kneepads, and Homestar is promptly featured in it... wearing kneepads. Coincidence? ...Yeah, probably, but is it worth mentioning? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 04:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:No. Grasping at several different straws from many different locations doesn't give you a reference, it just gives you a pile of mismatched straws. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::...Huh? Well, whatever. I thought the idea was too vague to get a mention, but I felt it was worth a shot. - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 05:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Team Kneepads

SnakeBoxer202 — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:43:42 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Merge? */

Talk:Team Kneepads

SnakeBoxer202 — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:42:06 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /**/Homestar's Knees Tech

{{tbd}}

==Another Appearance?==

Will Team Kneepads ever be reincluded?

posted by [[User:ALJ123456|ALJ123456]] at 17:38 UK time
:What do you ever mean?--[[User:Record307]]

== Lakers? ==

A fact was just added that Kneepads are probably a reference to the Los Angeles Lakers because their uniform are similar. Well... They are not that similar to me. The colors are different and the logo is not even close. Also cited is a 0.4 second shot from 2004. This seems like a real stretch to me. But I'm not American and I'm not really into sports. I know that with all the teams today, there's probably at least one that have a blue uniform with a logo more similar to the Kneepads. Any opinions? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:As a diehard Laker fan, I'm afraid I'm pretty skeptical, too. Purple and gold can mean lots of things (anyone here remember a song with the words "purple and yellow, he's one super fellow"?), and the uniforms here have nothing else in common with Laker uniforms. As for the 0.4-second shot: that was one of the greatest moments in basketball history, but there's nothing to connect it to the events in [[the paper]]]. There are some genuine Laker references in the H*R universe, but this is not one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

==Merge?==
I personally think this page should be '''merged with [[Minor Sports Teams]]'''. Other than the fact that it appeared twice, it's not exactly very notable. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Knees Tech ==

Remember in mascot, when [[The Cheat]] was part of the CGNU Dumples facing off against Pile of Electronics State? [[Strong Bad]] mentioned next time they'll be going up against "Homestar's Knees Tech", which was probably just a joke referring to how The Cheat simply hits stuff with a golf club. But still, this time is about kneepads, and Homestar is promptly featured in it... wearing kneepads. Coincidence? ...Yeah, probably, but is it worth mentioning? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 04:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Homsar Reservation

SnakeBoxer202 — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:35:02 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /**/Background music

== IGN Photo ==
I found a picture of the Homsar Reservation on IGN. Would it be illegal to get it and put it on the wiki page? If not I could upload it.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 22:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:It depends on the legal terms of the IGN website. If you wanted, you could try to understand what they say. A good guess is that it's not OK to use their images unless it's promotional material provided by TTG. The best option would be for a wiki user to make a screen capture.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::I can use Microsoft OneNote to make screen captures for my computer. Do you mean screen capture by, using a capture card to get the picture directly from the game?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 22:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:::He means to get a screen capture by pressing the "Print Scr|Sys Rq" key on your keyboard at the desired frame of the game, putting it on an image editor (the simplest being MS Paint), and uploading to the Wiki. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 23:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::::I use MS Picture editor to crop my images. It's easier to crop there. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}

== hi! in the stones? ==

Is it just me, or do the stones behind homsar seem to spell 'hi!'

== Thing ==

What is that thing next to Strong Sad in the picture? It has a red circle. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 22:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think it's a Strong Bad head or an inhaler or something. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
::It is the Strong Bad toy Bubs Gave strong Bad at the concession Stand.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 22:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hypothesis I thought of ==

I have a hypothesis as to why only Strong Bad can understand Homsar while the Homsartifacts are in the pylon. I believe that the ability to understand Homsar granted by the Homsartifacts in the pylon is only given to the one who puts the Homsartifacts in the pylon(In this case, Strong Bad). So, what do you think? {{unsigned|69.40.251.2|15:02, May 7, 2009}}
:Um, that's great. Maybe this would be more fitting at the {{pl|l=http://www.forum.hrwiki.org forum}}. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 20:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Background music ==

I feel like this article should mention how the background music to this place is some sort of distorted remix of the music from Homsar's character video (which I think it's awesome, BTW). Anyone else think so? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 04:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Team Kneepads

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:08:46 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Appearances */

{{tbd}}

[[Image:TeamKneepads.PNG|thumb|"Wish I had a time-and-space-transcending piece of paper on ''my'' team."]]
'''Team Kneepads''' is a team devised by Homestar Runner in the Strong Bad Email [[the paper]]. As their name implies, they wear kneepads. Their team shirt is purple with their number and team name written in yellow. They play a sport which appears to be derived from basketball, but which uses a football instead. Their uniforms are similar to and are likely based on those of the [[Wikipedia:Los Angeles Lakers|Los Angeles Lakers]]. This is especially true given Homsar's jersey number: .4, a likely reference to the 0.4 seconds left on the game clock when, in a famous play, Derek Fisher of the Los Angeles Lakers made a buzzer-beating shot to beat the [[Wikipedia:San Antonio Spurs|San Antonio Spurs]] in the 2004 [[Wikipedia:NBA Playoffs|NBA Playoffs]].

They have two known members:
*[[Homestar Runner]] — Number 15
*[[Homsar]] — Number .4

==Appearances==
*Email [[the paper]]
*[[Coach Z's 110%]]
*Email [[dictionary]] (mentioned)

[[Category:Organizations]]

Team Kneepads

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:08:22 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Appearances */

Talk:Bull Honkey

SnakeBoxer202 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:17:30 GMT

SnakeBoxer202:

==Minor Beverage==

This is a minor beverage, it was only used as a bevereage once. It should be moved to [[Minor Foods]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. This may have only been mentioned as a BEVERAGE once, but it discusses the subject that's been used, not just the drink [[User:HRfan222|HRfan222]]

:What makes a beverage minor, anyway? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::I guess it's considered minor because it only appeared once; and that's also why I think it should be moved to [[Minor Foods]]. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:07, 5 September 2006

'''Move it.''' If it is used again, make it it's own little article it can have for itself. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 21:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I tried to merge the article with [[Minor Foods]], but the page is still here. Can someone get it deleted? {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}}

::Bull Honkey appeared in two episodes from ''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People'', kind of like [[Total Load]] did. The only difference is Total Load only appeared in one episodee, while this drink appeared in two. I think that means it deserves its own article, don't you? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 23:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Occupations

SnakeBoxer202 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:48:14 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Known occupations */

:''"Job" redirects here. For the toon about Coach Z trying to pronounce "job", see [[A Jorb Well Done]]''.
:''"Career" redirects here. For the toon about a career day in Marzipan's class, see [[Career Day]]''.
The '''occupations''' of many [[Free Country, USA]] inhabitants are unclear. Some have no confirmed jobs, while others appear to hold several full-time jobs concurrently.
==Known occupations==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
!Character
!Jobs
|-
|[[Homestar Runner]]
|
*Athlete ''(may or not be a amateur)'' ([[A Jorb Well Done]], [[montage]], [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], [[Strongest Man in the World]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]])
*[[The Office|Office]] worker (tech support?) ([[dullard]], [[Puppet Stuff#Biz Cas Fri|Biz Cas Fri]], [[isp]], [[4 branches]], [[from work]])
*News anchor ([[Main Page 11]])
*Host of [[The Show]] ([[the show]], [[Main Page 19]], [[4 branches]])
*Teacher ([[The King of Town DVD]], [[A Jorb Well Done]], [[anything]])
*Bunmaker ([[disconnected]])
*Pitchman ([[Fluffy Puff Commercial]])
*[[Homestarmy]] Colonel ([[army]], [[more armies]], [[Strong Badia the Free]])
*Server at The Pizz ([[pizza joint]])
*Server at a diner ([[Summer Short Shorts]], [[Main Page 5]], [[Date Nite]], [[Blubb-O's Commercial]])
*[[Crazy Go Nuts University]] mascot ([[mascot]], [[4 branches]], [[rough copy]], [[On Break]])
*Doughnut Vendor ([[Donut Unto Others]])
|-
|[[Pom Pom]]
|
*Athlete ''(may or not be a amateur)'' ([[A Jumping Jack Contest]], [[Strongest Man in the World]])
*Filmmaker ([[pom pom]], [[technology]])
*"Big Cheese" at the office ([[from work]])
|-
|[[Strong Bad]]
|
*Office worker ([[Puppet Stuff#Biz Cas Fri|Biz Cas Fri]], [[dullard]], [[4 branches]], [[from work]])
*Prinicpal of [[Crazy Go Nuts University]] and a high school ([[CGNU]], [[Homestar Quiz]], [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
*Thief ([[caper]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]])
*News anchor ([[local news]])
*News meteorologist ([[Main Page 11]])
*Investigative reporter ([[interview]])
*Former [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot ([[part-time job]])
*Former tag-team wrestler ([[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[yes, wrestling]])
*Lifeguard ''(may be amateur)'' ([[keep cool]])
*Indie comics author ([[comic]])
*Voice-over artist for local events ([[monster truck]])
*Former newspaper delivery-boy ([[the chair]])
*Expensive briefcase carrier ([[secret identity]])
*Columnist for a women's help magazine. ([[secret identity]])
*Host of a quickly-cancelled show on Animal Planet ([[montage]])
*Owner of The Pizz and the website Virtualpizz.biz ([[pizza joint]])
*Health Inspector ([[Donut Unto Others]])
|-
|[[The Cheat]]
|
*Former toner salesman ([[montage]])
*Office worker (internal tech support?) ([[Biz Cas Fri 3]])
*Domestic servant ([[lackey]])
*Flash animator ''(may be amateur)'' ([[Powered by The Cheat]])
*Assistant thief ([[caper]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], [[garage sale]])
*Drummer ([[Cool Things]])
*Commando ([[army]])
*Disc jockey ([[geddup noise]], [[nightlife]])
*Owner of Cheatsa Pizza ([[pizza joint]])
|-
|[[Marzipan]]
|
*Kindergarten [[Portmanteaus|Montesodium]] teacher ([[coloring]], [[Career Day]])
*Guitarist/singer ([[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Things]])
*Actress ([[being mean]])
|-
|[[Strong Mad]]
|
*Bassist ([[Cool Things]])
*Former tag-team wrestler ([[Marshmallow's Last Stand]])
*Bouncer ([[nightlife]])
*Actor ([[being mean]])
*Security Guard ([[Homestar Ruiner]], [[Strong Badia the Free]])
|-
|[[Strong Sad]]
|
*Experimental film director ([[Experimental Film]])
*Temp ([[from work]])
*Soldier, Homestarmy ([[army]])
*Violinist ([[Quality Time]])
*Rock journalist ([[Baddest of the Bands]])
|-
|[[Coach Z]]
|
*Coach
*Referee ([[montage]])
*Rapper ''(may be amateur)'' ([[rampage]], [[New Boots]], [[Rap Song]])
*Janitor ([[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]], [[DNA Evidence]])
*[[Blubb-O's]] mascot ([[Blubb-O's Commercial]])
*Actor ([[being mean]])
|-
|[[Bubs]]
|
*Concession stand owner/operator
*Professional handyman ([[12:00]])
*ISP operator ([[isp]])
*The Office IT Professional ([[from work]])
*Paranormal Investigator ([[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*Normal Investigator ([[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*TV/VCR Repairman ([[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*Toga Yoga Instuctor ([[DNA Evidence]])
*Bartender ([[nightlife]])
*Black market dealer in legitimate goods ([[licensed]])
*Videlectrician ([[Baddest of the Bands]])
*Veterinarian ([[Best Caper Ever]])
*Doughnut Vendor ([[Donut Unto Others]])
*Questionable Medical Coverage Provider ([[Donut Unto Others]])
|-
|[[The King of Town]]
|
*King
*Food marketer
*Star of a quite popular cartoon show ([[senior prom]], [[KOT's VOQPCS!]])
*Authorized Godzilla re-seller ([[TrogdorCon '97]])
*Teacher ([[being mean]])
|-
|[[Homsar]]
|
*7-inches salesman ([[Weclome Back]])
*Soldier, Homestarmy ([[army]])
|-
|[[Marshie]]
|
*Mascot for [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows]] ([[retirement]], [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], [[Meet Marshie]])
|-
|[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]
|
*Vaudevillian ([[alternate universe]])
*Ghost hunter ([[That A Ghost]])
*Radio drama narrator ([[radio]])
|-
|[[Senor Cardgage]]
|
*Mortgage broker ([[Senor Mortgage]])
*Used car salesman ([[Senorial Day]])
*Movie theater usher ([[the movies]], [[rated]])
*Commercial pitchman ([[candy product]])
*Guest Bubs ''(temporary)'' ([[original]])
*Owner of a shady daycare ([[licensed]])
|-
|-
|[[Vector Strong Bad]]
|
*Training simulator for [[Stinkoman]] ([[alternate universe]])
|-
|[[Painting of a Guy with a Big Knife]]
|
*Soldier, Homestarmy ([[army]])
|-
|[[The Poopsmith]], [[The Cleric]], [[The Blacksmith]], [[The Hornblower]], [[The Knight]], [[The Little Chef Guy]]
|
*Servants to [[The King of Town]]
*Musicians in a [[K.O.T.H.S. Junior Varsity Marching Band|marching band]], a [[senior prom|general business band]], and a [[the movies|Mariachi Band]]
|-
|[[Frank Bennedetto]]
|
*Soldier, Homestarmy ([[army]], [[Labor Dabor]])
|-
|[[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]]
|
*Former toner salesperson ([[montage]])
*Athlete ''(for the [[Champeenship]])'' ([[montage]])
*Used car dealership TV spokesperson ([[montage]])
|-
|[[Crack Stuntman]]
|
*Voice of [[Gunhaver]] in [[Cheat Commandos]]
*Spokesperson for [[Pistols for Pandas (organization)|Pistols for Pandas]] ([[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]])
*Guest Bubs ''(temporary)'' ([[original]])
|}

{{stub}}
[[Category:Activity running gags]]

Blubb-O's Commercial

SnakeBoxer202 — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:13:29 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Fast Forward */

{{toonnav|Shorts|blubbos|Limozeen vs. Sloshy|Limozeen Live! (practice)}}
[[Image:Blubb-OsCommercial.png|thumb|"Register does not contain more than fifty doctors."]]
Come the heck down to Blubb-O's!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Drive-Thru Whale}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Peacey P}}, {{film|Bubs}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Strong Badia]] ([[Behind the Fence]]), [[Blubb-O's]], [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 10, 2008

'''Running time:''' 1:53

'''Page title:''' See Participating Stores for Details!
==Transcript==

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are walking along behind the fence in Strong Badia. Corny advertisement music plays quietly under them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{haltingly, as a bad actor}'' Man, you guys! All this walking around behind the fence being a young person sure has gotten my hunger all up in a dander!

''{Suddenly, the Drive-Thru Whale shoots up from the ground in front of them}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Relinquish your pipes please, fellas!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exaggeratedly}'' Relinquish our pipes? We'd love to!

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat all start laughing. The scene fades slightly as a huge Blubb-O's logo comes on screen, with the words "Come The Heck Down" written underneath.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Come the heck down to Blubb-O's and try your dang self the Blubb-O's Classic.

''{The scene changes to a red background and a burger appears, with a label below saying "Classic" when the announcer names it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' The Original. The Regular. The New Original. The Old Classic.

''{Each time the announcer mentions another burger, the burger's image flips horizontally and a label with the new burger's name stacks on top of the previous ones. Then, a huge deep-fried triangle of fish appears between a burger bun, and another label appears over the others saying "Isosceles Fish Sandwich??"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And the Isosceles Fish Sandwich. Wait, fish sandwich? ''{A record scratch and the music stops.}'' We have a fish sandwich? Has anybody ever ordered that thing?

''{A beep is heard as the scene cuts abruptly to a kitchen with a lettuce, two onions, and two tomatoes lying on a counter top.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' At Blubb-O's, all our vegetables are hand tossed through a refreshing cascade of water, and chopped in mid air.

''{As the announcer mentions this, the vegetables are thrown through a waterfall and chopped in half with a knife. The scene then changes to a Blubb-O's restaurant counter, with Homestar behind it, looking exhausted, wearing a yellow deli-style hat with the Drive-Thru Whale on it and a yellow apron.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Welcome the crap to Blubb-O's. Would you like to try a combo meal ''{holds up a Blubb-O's meal bag}'', some Chipotle Potato Nudules ''{holds up a small paper dish with some [[French Fries|fries]]}'', or our Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake? ''{holds up a cup with some cocoa beans and the word "PREMIUM" printed on it}''

''{The camera cuts to Marzipan on the other side of the counter.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I just have a question: Do you actually use whale meat, or just regular fast food meat? I just need to know how hard I should protest you.

''{Marzipan holds up two signs, one with the Drive-Thru Whale with the text "SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE", and the other with a caricature of the Drive-Thru Whale looking worried, with the text "really SAVE THE BLUBB-O WHALE". Cut to the field. Coach Z is in a large Drive-Thru Whale costume with some balloons next to him.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{laughs}'' Family fun, and I'm talkin' about men in costumes, is what Blubb-O's is all about.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey there kids! I'm the Drive-Thru Whale! ''{Jumps up and down and shouts.}'' I'll chop off your legs!

''{The view changes and Strong Sad is standing beside him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Sometimes it seems like you're ''trying'' to go to prison, Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, three square meals a day!

''{The camera pans to the left where Strong Bad and The Cheat sit in a cardboard box with "HMS Locash" written on the side. Strong Bad is wearing his Archibald outfit from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and holding a harpoon, and The Cheat has a harpoon gun.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thar she blows, The Cheat! Aim for the blowhole!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{looks at Strong Bad and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Whoa, I didn't even see Coach Z standing in a whale costume. Yeah, shoot him too!

''{As the sound of The Cheat firing the harpoon gun is heard, the scene cuts to a red background with a pale Blubb-O's watermark.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And now for a limited time, introducing the Blubb-O's Thick 'n Nasty.

''{A burger with an extremely thick patty falls into frame, and a gold plate with "THICK 'n NASTY" on it appears on top. A drawing of Peacey P then pops up with a speech bubble saying "that's right. ya'll blubb-o heads. the thick 'n nasty!"}''

'''PEACEY P:''' That's right, ya'll Blubb-O heads. The Thick 'n Naaaaaaasty. ''{grunts}''

''{The camera pans right until a picture of Peacey P's mouth, with gold teeth with "THICK 'N NASTY" engraved on them, fills the screen with another speech bubble saying "eeungh!" The camera then cuts to the image of the Blubb-O's logo with "YOU GUESSED IT...WE'RE CALLED BLUBB-O'S" written below it.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Blubb-O's. You guessed it, we're called Blubb-O's.

''{A speech bubble appears briefly saying "REGISTER DOES NOT CONTAIN MORE THAN FIFTY DOCTORS." The logo shifts slightly off-center, and rubbery sounds are heard, as if the logo were on a balloon.}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Register does not contain more than fifty doctors.

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the whale's spout to see Bubs ordering a burger.
:''{An angry Bubs is seen through the grill of the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' No, I will not slice my fingers thin! I just wanna dang hambloiger!
:''{Cut to see Bubs in the [[Gremlin]], without wheels and on cinder blocks, pulled up next to the Drive-Thru Whale.}''
:'''BUBS:''' I got places to be, man!
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' You're living a lie. Would you like cash back?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The name "Isosceles Fish Sandwich" is a play on an [[Wikipedia:Triangle#Types of triangles|isosceles triangle]], a triangle with at least two of its three sides identical in length.
*"HMS" is a British Naval designation used on ships, standing for [[Wikipedia:Her Majesty's Ship|Her Majesty's Ship]] or [[Wikipedia:His Majesty's Ship|His Majesty's Ship]] depending on the gender of the monarch.
*Drive-Thru Whale's line "register does not contain more than fifty doctors," is a corruption of "register does not contain more than fifty dollars", a notice similar to one that businesses or restaurants might display to deter robbery.

===Trivia===
*The Blubb-O's menu behind Homestar reads:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|BLUBBO CLASSIC || 1.99 || NUDULES || 5.99
|-
|THE ORIGINAL || 2.99 || KETCHUP PACKET || 6.99
|-
|THE REGULAR || 3.99 || COFFEE STIRRER || 7.99
|-
|THE NEW ORIGINAL || 4.99 || GRAIN OF SALT || 8.99
|}
*Originally, each vegetable was cut as soon as it went through the waterfall, but this was changed soon after the toon was uploaded, so that they all get washed and then chopped separately.
*The background shown on the loading screen and during the scenes that show the burgers and the vegetables is the same [[HR:puppet_background.swf|background]] used for [[Puppet Stuff]], with red instead of blue.

===Remarks===
*According to [[road trip]], Bubs should not have been able to open the Gremlin's windows from the inside, and none of the car's external features suggest they could be opened from outside the vehicle.
*The Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque, and appears to be covered by a sheet of steel or other gray material.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat turns around to talk to Strong Bad in the HMS Locash, his lower back (or leg) pokes outside the box.

===Inside References===
*"Would you like to try a combo meal...?" was the Drive-Thru Whale's first line in [[Drive-Thru]].
*Strong Mad was shown holding a Blubb-O's bag in [[nightlife]].
*"I'll chop off your legs!" is a variation of "Sever your leg please, sir", and the background music is a variation of the Whale's music from [[Drive-Thru]].
*The term "meltshake" was first used in [[road trip]].
*Strong Bad is wearing his [[Archibald]] costume from [[A Decemberween Pageant]] when attempting to harpoon Strong Sad. 
*Bubs saying he wants "a dang hambloiger" is an instance of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
*"Nudules" were last mentioned in [[from work]]. There they were also associated with whales.
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]], and so does [[Strong Mad Smiling|Strong Mad]].
*Homestar's greeting is "Welcome the [[crap]] to Blubb-O's."

===Real-World References===
*Sandwiches named "The Original", "The Regular" and "The New Original" may be a reference to the pseudo-band [[Spinal Tap]]. Early in their history they changed their name to The New Originals when they discovered that The Originals was already in use. According to the band, The Originals later changed their name to The Regulars.
*The Attempt-At-Competing-With-National-Coffee-Chains Premium Mocha-Chip Meltshake is a reference to how many fast food outlets, like [[McDonald's]], are touting their new "high-quality" coffee drinks as a way of competing with [[Wikipedia:Starbucks|Starbucks]].
*The sign on Strong Bad's cardboard box boat reads "HMS Locash", a reference to Robert LoCash, screenwriter of [[Wikipedia:CB4|CB4]], [[Wikipedia:Naked_Gun_33⅓:_The_Final_Insult|Naked Gun 33⅓]], and [[Wikipedia:BASEketball|BASEketball]].
*The phrase "Save the Blubb-O Whale", which appears on [[Marzipan's protest signs]], is derived from the name of [http://www.savethewhales.org/ Save the Whales], a non-profit organization founded in 1977 which focuses on marine mammal welfare.
*The Thick 'n Nasty is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Big N' Tasty|Big N' Tasty]], a hamburger from McDonald's that was designed to compete with [[Wikipedia:Burger King|Burger King]]'s Whopper.
*Strong Bad's line, "Thar she blows!" is a famous quote from the [[Wikipedia:Herman Melville|Herman Melville]] novel [[Wikipedia:Moby-Dick|Moby-Dick]].

===Fast Forward===
*Coach Z's whale costume reappears in [[On Break]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:blubbos.html|watch "Blubb-O's Commercial"]]
*[[HR:blubbos.swf|view the Flash file for "Blubb-O's Commercial"]]
*[[Forum:13717|forum thread re: "Blubb-O's Commercial"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

Talk:SeeDees

SnakeBoxer202 — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 06:07:59 GMT

SnakeBoxer202:

how do we know this radio is called SeeDees? it should be changed to "The Cheat's Boombox"--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:It says so right on there. It's just a little hard to read, but it's there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Now I see it! thanks!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 03:01, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I created a redirect for "See Dee Spinner", as it was called in Homestar Ruiner. I feel like that should be the article's title, not that it matters. - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 06:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

See Dee Spinner

SnakeBoxer202 — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 06:06:52 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: redirect to SeeDees

#REDIRECT [[SeeDees]]

File talk:Showdown.png

SnakeBoxer202 — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:36:02 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: Created page with 'Pancakes stole Strong Bad's wagon? - ~~~~'

Pancakes stole Strong Bad's wagon? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 03:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Ruiner Walkthrough

SnakeBoxer202 — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:08:29 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /**/Dog Shirt

{{ttbd}}

== Deletion Discussion ==

I believe we discussed not to make a page about this...anyway, I don't think its necessary to have a walkthrough for SBCG4AP, even if its a direct copy of the Telltale WT. Although, we could just link to the TTG walkthrough for the sake of not wasting a page. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 02:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well what about a more complete walkthrough? One that explains EVERYTHING to do in the game? Including the secret hidden stuff not included in TellTales walkthrough... --{{User:TheDenzel/sig}} 03:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::That is a bit more than a mighty undertaking. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Well isn't that what this wiki does? You documented everything in Peasant's Quest.... why should this be any different, if not more important? --{{User:TheDenzel/sig}} 04:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::We do not reinvent wheels, though, and this article duplicates effort by a company which benifits TBC, and so this article can be seen as a conflict of interest. The walkthrough exists. Just as the toons exist online already, and there is no need nor desire to mirror them here, the walkthrough can also be linked to, and none will be the wiser. We do no service to TBC by duplicating their efforts. To get to the achievement suggested, we need to move through that, and I'm not sure it's in our best interest. I'd like to see us document the various obscure references, but as a walkthrough might be too much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well then why not use this page, or something similar to point out secrets, and transcribe the various events that happen in the game. --{{User:TheDenzel/sig}} 04:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, I'm kind of the guy that made the walkthrough currently seen on this article, and I'm all for taking that down and retooling it so it's just about the hidden items and refrences, since the whole original walkthrough was made before I knew TTG had ones for their own games. I was posting the walkthrough section because Peasant's Quest and Stinkoman both had their own walkthroughs on the wiki.-[[User:LavosXII|LavosXII]] 05:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What I don't understand is why we can't have our own walkthrough. Of course we won't duplicate the walkthrough on Telltale's website, word for word: that's stealing. But why we aren't we allowed to have a walkthrough of our own that users can edit and improve? To me, that's like saying "There's no need for a walkthrough on Peasant's Quest, we can just link to the walkthrough on Gamefaqs!" Besides, Gamefaqs will have their own walkthroughs on Homestar Ruiner within the next few weeks. It's not like Telltale has the monopoly of walkthroughs of their own games. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Agreed. --{{User:TheDenzel/sig}} 18:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::For what it's worth, this VERY SAME WALKTHROUGH is now on GameFAQs. I think it appeared here first (I'm guessing that it's the same author?) I'm not against us having our own version, but it needs massive cleanup for a Wiki page, given it seems to have been created as a text document. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: It was uploaded on GameFAQs before I put the walkthrough portion here. The GameFAQs version only just showed up because of their content review system, and yes, it was originally made as a .txt file which is why it looks so odd. -[[User:LavosXII|LavosXII]] 22:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::''{{drops a train on 'em}'' I think that, yes, we should link to the Telltale walkthrough, and make this page an "extras" walkthrough, with everything Telltale hasn't put up yet. Once they do, however, we delete this page and link to both Telltale walkthroughs on [[Homestar Ruiner]]. In short, do what they haven't done, and get rid of ours once they do it. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::::::::: I already started putting a bunch of the extras in there. Once we come to a decision we can do whatever we want to it. But for now Im putting stuff in it. -[[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]]
::::::::Again, I explain: Whether or not other sites mirror the Telltale walkthrough or provide their own, that's not what this Wiki is about. We are not supposed to have content that replaces TBC content, and the Telltale walkthrough is a form of TBC content. Enhancing is great, and the extra bits on this article are worthy. But the basic walkthrough is not. No, Telltale does not have a monopoly on walkthroughs. But we, unlike GameFAQs, are a wiki dependent on TBC, and as such our hosting a walkthrough which already exists on a TBC-related site isn't in Telltale's, TBC's, or our, best interest. '''Keep''' extras but '''delete''' the basic walkthrough. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:11, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Uh, can't most of our articles be construed as a form of "replacing" TBC content? I mean, we transcribe every single toon word-for-word... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree, no one's gonna not buy the game because the walkthrough is here... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I agree also. In general, TBC's revenue comes from merchandise, and so the wiki does not in any way cut into that — for the game specifically, TBC and Telltale's revenue comes from sales of the game. Their walkthrough is freely available and they do not profit from it in any way, so having a walkthrough here is not in competition with their revenue in any way. If TBC or Telltale sold some sort of "Gamer Guide" or similiar and we were discussing content that was in direct competition with that, it would be an entirely different situation, but it is not the case. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 20:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::'''Here's why we want a complete walkthrough here:''' because no ''official'' walkthrough is complete. Anyone looking for a complete speed walkthrough is going to want to know where the "optional quest" stuff is ''while'' playing through the main story of the game. If we just link to the TTG walkthrough and then say, "While reading through that walkthrough, feel free to dance back and forth between their walkthrough and our 'optional quests' walkthrough and try not to lose your place." So, a speed walkthrough with all optional stuff included and a [[Homestar Ruiner Responses|complete list of responses]] means the wiki is doing complete documentation. No conflict of interest, complete documentation is what we do. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::it should stay [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 23:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Yes, we transcribe and analyze. But we do not replace the animation. We even avoid too many screen shots - why? Because we do not exist to duplicate their efforts or the efforts of their designees. That's what a basic walkthough would do, and I support walkthrough information beyond Telltale's, but I oppose a duplicative walkthrough. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Let's break down the word walkthrough. A walkthrough, literally, is supposed to walk you through a game in it's entirety. Telltale's walkthrough does not do this, and I understand why. But as unfortunate as it is, us information-hungry HRWiki users have no control over the Telltale website, and I really doubt they will say "oh, sorry, we were wrong trying to make players play our game more than just on the surface, we'll post everything right now" if we send them a pompous e-mail.
:::::::::::A walkthrough that tells a player to first read paragraphs 1-4 on the Telltale website and then the two sentences at the wiki and then the next paragraph at the Telltale website and then the rest on the wiki until the next headline... just won't do. Duplicating the effort of whoever wrote the walkthrough does not benefit the TBC, ''but'' note that it also does not harm the TBC, Telltale, the game, or the wiki in any way I could imagine. It merely benefits the user who wants a 100% completion on the game easily with a walkthrough. Only thing we can do now, is lose. And I don't know about you, but I hate reading a book where I have to skip for some subnote or appendix or previous chapter to check something. As I see it, "duplicating their effort" is the only way of doing this conveniently. And you can point any possible cease-and-desists to my email inbox. --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 08:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manual pages ==

*''Bubs gives it to you after you beat the game.''

I'm about 95% sure I received this before completing the game, but I'll have to wait until I replay to know for sure if I'm just remembering incorrectly. Does anyone else remember? {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 18:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
: Yes, I completed the manual before the game proper. You have to speak to Homestar about it, then Marzipan, then Coach Z, and finally Bubs, in that order. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::Well, first you've got to play Snake Boxer 5, otherwise SB won't realize it's missing. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::Maybe you can get it elsewhere and if you miss it Bubs gives it too you after the game is beat. Because I know for a fact that Bubs ''can'' give it to you. Try not getting it the other way and then talking to Bubs after the game is beat. He'll give it to you. It's probably just a way to get it if you missed it. Remember that if this is true then we need to note it. -[[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]]
::::What? Bubs gives it to you anyway. Anyway, Homestar, Marzipan, and Coach Z are all available for speaking in the endgame. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well I talked to Bubs after the game ended and we talked a bout his concussion and then he handed it to me. Hmmm... -[[User:philip8o|Philip8o]]

== Teen Girl Squad ==

Shouldn't we include how to get all four Teen Girl Squad cards? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
: Yes. Yes, we should. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::I did it, but I still haven't gotten the Candy Bar card myself, and I don't think I got each card with it's location. And I think they're out of order. In short, it needs some clean-up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Easter Eggs ==

I put a section for Easter Eggs up. I only know one off the top off my head. There are more though. I think we need to define what a Easter Egg is first though. I'm not sure if what I said fits. Cause there are a lot of things that don't get you anything or advance the story, That I don't think are easter eggs. (Like looking at the Microwave) I don't know. -[[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]]

== List of Ranks? ==

Should we keep a list of the ranks you can attain in the game? Here are the ones I know: 

Academic Biathlete: 1st 
Polar Bear Vaulter: Somewhere near the beginning 
Chainsaw Bocce Bowler: 2nd to last 
Trogdor Polo Chuncker: Last
:We should. But it should go on the [[Homestar Ruiner]] page. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

== Nuisance Trophy ==
I think there are some other ways to get points toward the nuisance trophy. I got it without ever ringing Marzipan's doorbell at all. Unfortunately, I didn't keep track of exactly what I did do that might have contributed toward it. [[Special:Contributions/71.215.23.64|71.215.23.64]] 15:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:So, yeah, I went to FameFAQs, and did everything each Walkthrough told me to do, and still don't have it. Although, I didn't ring Marzipan's doorbell until extended play... Does that have anything to do with it? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 23:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== My walkthrough proposal ==

I'd prefer if we did something like the following. It would be more Wiki-like and potentially easy to read. Mandatory events in black, optional events that add to your "awesomeness" rating (directly or indirectly) in green. (There can be more colors than the two; in fact, it might be better to have one for clothing items, one for trophies, etc. This is just an example.)

===[[House of the Brothers Strong|House of Strong]]===
* You will start in Strong Bad's computer room. Examine the map to add the Track to it.
* View the "Rave Switch" to throw a light rave twice.
* Go downstairs and examine the fridge.
* In Strong Bad's room, examine the Videlectrix poster twice.
* (Keep on adding stuff; I'm not doing the whole walkthrough on the talk page.)
* Either examine the walkway outside of the house, or open the map. Go to the Track.

===Track===
* Speak to Homestar. Ask about the race, and then the party.
* Ask him about the Snake Boxer manual, and he'll say he gave it to Marzipan.

Etc. etc. etc. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't see this before I did my re-write, else I would (possibly) have written it closer to that format. The re-write I did was a minimalist walkthrough: the fastest way to get 100%. I didn't like the formatting to begin with, and I am hoping someone can improve it (possibly with bulleted lists like those above). Another thing I don't like is the lack of continuity in this minimalist walkthrough (e.g. Coach Z talks about sending the video to the Swedes, but no one playing for the first time would know why if they did the very minimum to complete the game.. and that's just one example). So, a color for required stuff ... another color for optional items that lead to 100% of the "How much I rule" chart (but that are not necessary to win) ... and another color for suggested actions to better understand the story line? How does that sound? I would also like to pose a question to anyone willing to try to find the answer: Is it possible to achieve the ranking of Trogdor Polo Chucker ''before'' the final banana peel toss? I've played so much of this game over and over by now that I think my brain would throw up if I had to play it through again anytime in the near future. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
::I can't remember if I was Trogdor Polo Chucker before the banana peel (I think I wasn't), but in my own 100% run, I successfully obtained all items/trophies and completed all minigames by then. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Thought #1: I think we should attempt to format it like you suggest, Jay. Right now, with the walk-through as I wrote it, it should be easy to differentiate between what is needed to win vs. what is needed to get 100%. As for suggesting optional dialogue for a better understanding of the plot, is that a good idea?
:::Thought #2: Adding the areas in the Field to the map is completely unnecessary to win. In fact, I only included some instructions (like, "pass closely by the Drive-Thru Whale to have it added to your map") so that the ''map'' would be complete, even though I doubt it does anything toward increasing points toward higher ranks or that kind of thing. And because the Field locations are only part of "100%" from a player's perspective (and not necessarily the game's perspective), does that merit a separate color?
:::Thought #3: What about hedges? At least one hedge must be trimmed in order to obtain hedge trimmings, but we can't say that any one specific hedge MUST be trimmed. As in, "Trimming the hedge by this brick wall will help you achieve 100%, but if you're just going for a win, then it is not necessary to trim this ''particular'' hedge because you'll come across other hedges later in the game and you can trim one or more of ''those'' to get some hedge trimmings (which you ''will'' need to get ''sometime'' in order to complete the game)". Red-iculous but true, eh? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 10:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I am starting to feel like I'm talking to myself, but I put together a comparison in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=584420 sandbox]. I'm not sold on using colors; the wrong color combinations are just plain ugly, and it's even worse with links. =] So, I thought maybe '''bold''' for mandatory, not-bold for optional. I don't know. I don't like that too much, either. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I went with colors on the idea that there might be multiple colors in the final version... but if it's just mandatory vs. optional, bold works for me. You should go through most of - if not all of - The Field for 100% either way - you can't get 100% if you don't trim the shrub, use the shovel on the car, use the metal detector in Strong Badia, etc. But I don't think you need to do so to beat the game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== Dog Shirt ==

Could someone be a bit more specific on how to get it? - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 20:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Total Load

SnakeBoxer202 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:16:36 GMT

SnakeBoxer202:

{{ttbd}}

Doesn't something have to have three appearances to merit it's own page? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:No. Only running gags need to have three or more appearances. Items, places, and characters with a significant presence can have only a single appearance and still merit a page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, like [[The Spirit of St. Louis]]; I've barely heard of it and it gets its own article. - [[User:SnakeBoxer202|SnakeBoxer202]] 18:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Homestar Ruiner

SnakeBoxer202 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:06:51 GMT

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[[Image:HomestarRuinerLogo.png|thumb|The logo of Homestar Ruiner]]
[[Image:Sbcg4ap101 float.PNG|thumb|A victory pwahty]]

'''Homestar Ruiner''' is the first episode of the ''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]]'' video game series. It was released on August 11, 2008 for WiiWare and PC. It has been rated T by the ESRB for Crude Humor, Mild Cartoon Violence, and Mild Suggestive Themes. Story written by Mike Stemmle and [[The Brothers Chaps]].

While [[Strong Bad]] is going about his usual routine — checking [[Strong Bad Email|emails]], etc. — [[Homestar Runner]] tells him about the [[Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race|Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race]]. Once Strong Bad hears of Homestar's intention to win this contest, he schemes to snatch victory from Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible grasp]].

'''Cast:''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homsar}} (voice only, Easter egg), {{film|Marshie}} (as Gel-arshie), The Mole People, [[Homestar Ruiner Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad cast]]

{| cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
|-
| '''Places:'''
|- valign="top"
| style="padding-right: 2.5em" |
[[House of the Brothers Strong]] 
[[Basement of the Brothers Strong|Basement]] 
[[Laundry Room of the Brothers Strong|Laundry Room]] 
[[Strong Bad's Room]] 
[[Living Room of the Brothers Strong|Living Room]] 
[[Kitchen of the Brothers Strong|Kitchen]] 
[[Strong Sad's Room]] 
[[Computer Room]]
| style="padding-right: 36px" |
[[Race Track|The Race Track]] 
[[Coach Z's Locker Room]] 
[[Marzipan's House]] 
[[Marzipan's Gazebo]] 
[[The King of Town's Castle]]
|
[[The Field]] 
[[Bubs' Concession Stand]] 
[[Strong Badia]] 
[[Gremlin|The Gremlin]] 
[[Snap Shak]] 
[[Drive-Thru Whale|The Drive-Thru Whale]] 
[[The Stick]] 
[[The Brick Wall]] 
|}

== Inventory ==
* Balloons
* Banana Peel
* Candy
* Candy Coupon
* The float's paper maché head
* [[Fluffy Puff]] Jela-Ton
* Hedge Clippings
* Homestar's Cell Phone
* Homestar's Clothing
* Homestar's Criminal Record
* Homestar costume (combination of Homestar's Clothing and the paper maché head)
* Magnifying Glass (tutorial only)
* Marzipan's Shears
* Onion
* Plunger
* The Poopsmith's Shovel
* Strong Bad's clothes (to change back from the Homestar costume)
* [[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]]
* [[Total Load]]
* Trophy

== Ranks ==
#Academic Biathlete
#Midget Thumb Wrestler
#Rhythmic Curler
#Macro Golfer

#Polar Bear Vaulter
#PVP Archer
#Forbidden Ice Dancer
#Flaming Shot Putter
#Nitro Foosball Lineman
#Chainsaw Bocce Bowler
#Trogdor Polo Chucker

== Fun Facts ==
=== Easter Eggs ===
* Enter the photo booth, interact with the top of the light closest to "The Cheat". After the pointer changes shape, keep holding down the interaction button and drag the shirt onto Strong Bad to wear it.
** The shirt can also be obtained by walking off the right side of the photo booth three times, causing Strong Bad to walk under the floor. When he walks directly under the door and out of view, a sound will play, and he'll be wearing the shirt when he comes back into view.

=== Trivia ===
*A few days after the "Track" trailer was released, it was edited with the following known changes:
**The blocking in many scenes was slightly different.
**Strong Bad's original first line was "All right, Homestar, the time for our ultimate throwdown of total death-tiny has arrived! Put 'em up!"
**At three points in the dialogue, (before "A race?", before "Did someone say pwahty?", and before "All this race talk...") a choice box appeared above Strong Bad's head. A cursor chose which topic Strong Bad would discuss the first two times, but just closed the box the third time.
**A very slight difference in Homestar's expression is added after Strong Bad decides to "postpone" Homestar's pummeling. When Homestar responds by asking "Pummeling?", Homestar's eyes squint in an angry way. This does not occur in the first version.
**The [[scoreboard]] had the initials [[Coach Z|CZ]] and [[Pom Pom|PP]] on it. It now reads "OFFICIAL RACE TIMES".
**Various graphical glitches have been removed.
*The Wii Title ID is WBXx, where x is the region code (E for United States, P for Europe).

=== Remarks ===
*"At The Track" takes place near the beginning of the game, while "Around The Field" is an example of game play during some of the side quests.
*This is one of the few times a character mentions [[Free Country, USA]]. The last time this occurred was when Strong Bad said it in [[flashback]].
*The animation accompanying Strong Bad by The Stick was first seen in [[Strong Bad Gameways]].
*An attempt to use the microwave in-game will result in a note that the door is stuck shut. However, at a certain point in the game, Homestar will open it without any problem--even while Strong Bad is in the middle of saying it's stuck shut.
*Throughout the game, [[The Paper]] accompanies as part of the in-game menu rather than [[New Paper]].
*A different font is used for the [[Lappy 486]] rather than its regular [[Fonts|font]], Glitch0.

=== Goofs ===
*At the non-garden party, the rollover for Marzipan and Homestar is spelled "MARZIPAN & HOMSETAR".
*In Strong Bad's photo booth there is a clickable area above the camera. Clicking here turns the cursor into the Max shirt from the Telltale store (also occasionally chosen at random as Young Sam's costume in Sam and Max Episode 202: Moai Better Blues and Episode 204: Chariots of the Dogs). However, when put on Strong Bad, the shirt is yellow and has a picture of a dog on it.
*The subtitles are incorrect in several places
**When kicking the Cheat into the dryer, one of the subtitles misspells ''Pixelated'' as ''Pix'''i'''lated''.
**Homestar Runner sings "Do do-do do dooo dooo, do do-do do dooo" but the subtitles say "Do do-do do dooo dooo, do do-do do dooo dooo".
**While Strong Bad says "some French guy said I should beat you up", the subtitles quote him as saying "some French guy said that I should beat you up".
**While most abbreviations have an apostrophe, no apostrophe is transcribed when Homestar says "puddin sack".
**In several responses from the Drive-Thru Whale, the "O" in "Blubb-O's" is lowercase.
**When the Drive-Thru Whale says "'Nurer' spelled backwards is 'rerun.'" the word "in" is transcribed rather than "is".

=== Glitches ===
[[Image:SBCG4APShirtGlitch.gif|thumb|Tech Shirt Glitch.]]
*If the subtitles are turned off, they will be erroneously enabled when Strong Bad checks his email. They will remain enabled afterwards until Strong Bad leaves his house, although the ''Settings'' screen will show them as '''Off'''. Toggling them on and off again under the ''Settings'' will rectify the problem.
*While wearing the tech shirt near Strong Bad's house, in extended play, geometry issues will occur, resulting in what looks like a blue wall shooting out from the shirt. This also occurs in other locations in the game.
*If the Luxa Lounger is extended (when it is unextended) and the radio set to the Latin music in Extended Play, the conga line will re-form even though it won't move.
**When the Luxa Lounger is set back the conga line will disappear, but Homestar, Marzipan, Coach Z, Bubs and the King of Town will appear where they were when the party was still going on. These characters cannot be selected, and Strong Bad can walk right through them.
*As Strong Bad wears the Homestar head, it is sometimes invisible, so you see Strong Bad grab nothing.

==== Wii Version ====
*If widescreen mode is turned on, talking to Coach Z in extended play results in the game crashing, requiring a hard reset. In addition, many of the cut scenes that play throughout the game will sometimes freeze, also requiring a hard reset.
*After Strong Bad plays [[Snake Boxer 5]], he gets teleported to the Computer Room and then back to his room.
*If the game is saved while in the photo booth while wearing a shirt and then immediately turned off, then when you start only the collar of the shirt will be visible.

==== PC Version ====
*Occasionally Homestar, Marzipan, Bubs, Coach Z, Strong Mad, Strong Sad or Strong Bad's eyes are not visible upon entering an area. The same may also occur with Strong Mad's mouth.

=== Inside References ===
*Homestar previously called his butt a "[[Glossary#T|twees]]" in [[lady fan]]. Also, Strong Bad mentions himself being a pain in the twees while looking at the "Nuisance Trophy".
*Strong Bad's pronunciation of "party" matches his pronunciation in [[nightlife]].
*Homestar mentions [[cake]] jugglers.
*Marzipan has previously written a [[Oh yeah yeah|song]] stating that she [[marzipan|really doesn't like Strong Bad at all]].
*Strong Bad mentions a [[French]] guy.
*This is another appearance of a [[cardboard box]].
*Strong Bad's song about you not being able to handle his [[style]] is a reference to [[modeling]].
*The music playing when Strong Bad leaves Bubs' Concession Stand and after Strong Bad approaches The Stick is the same one from [[hygiene]].
*"Thoughts on a [[Bird]]" from [[Audition with Marzipan]] and [[The Luau]] plays at Marzipan's house.
*The music playing at the track was first used in the Bubs' Concession Stand scenes in [[Senorial Day]], [[Happy Hallow-day]], and [[Toikey TV]].
*An ad for the [[Ab-Abber 2000]] plays on the TV in the basement.
*When hiding behind the King of Town's statue in the hall of records, Strong Bad lists the features of "Stealth Strong Bad", an imaginary action figure made by [[Cheap as Free|Cheap as Free Toys]].
*References to Strong Bad's [[style]] are made throughout the game.
*The music on the e-mail menu comes from the game show scenes in [[animal]].
*Strong Bad can wear [[Homestar Runner's Pants|Homestar Runner's "Pants"]].
*This introductory sequence features an instance of [[couch mumbling]].
:*The video game title he mumbles is [[RhinoFeeder]].
*The music that plays in [[The Field]] comes from "A Grade A Gray Day" in [[fan club]].
*A poster for [[the Municipality]] can be found on the back of the lockers. The Municipality logo also appears on the Lappy screen just before the end credits.
*The tutorial sequence involves Strong Bad's Lappy being stolen from the computer room, which previously occurred in [[cliffhangers]]. When Strong Bad realizes it is missing, the dramatic music from that same email plays.
*Strong Bad carves one of the hedges into the shape of [[Trogdor]].
**Occasionally in Snake Boxer 5's forbidden mode, when using the fire breath attack, Strong Bad will shout "Burninate!"
*This is another appearance of [[showering]].
*When you first enter [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong|living room]] the same music from [[do over]], [[Date Nite]], the Easter egg from [[Play Date]], and [[love poems]] plays.
*Strong Bad saying "Check, Check one. Syllabus" into the microphone at the track is a reference to the opening of the email [[candy product]].
*The [[Limozeen Coloring Book]] can be seen on top of the messy pile over Strong bad's bed.
*While showering, Homestar sings the "Independent Girl" song from [[One Two, One Two]].
*When Strong Bad jumps into The King of Town's vent he says [[Catch Phrases#Dangeresque|"Looks like I'm gonna have to jump!"]]
*At the party, when Coach Z falls out the window, he exclaims "[[Fall Float Parade|I regret everything!]]"
*The loading screen's fading purple background is taken from the ending of [[retirement]].
*After putting on the Championship belt, Strong Bad will mention the Sizzle Weight belt and the Jack-Em Up Kid, which is a reference to the email [[yes, wrestling]].
*The voice of the newscaster heard on the TV is the same voice as the [[Cold Ones]] spokesperson in [[business trip]] and [[buried]], the [[Blubb-O's]] spokesperson in [[nightlife]] and [[Blubb-O's Commercial]], and Marzipan's questionable surgeon in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2]].
*The hedge that Strong Bad clips in Marzipan's yard closely resembles Homestar in [[fan club]].
*The theme for [[KOT'S VOQPCS!|The King of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]] plays while Strong Bad is outside the King of Town's castle.
*When Strong Bad first dons his Homestar disguise, his impersonation includes naming the sections of the [[Main Pages]].
*When Homestar is practicing in the locker room, he sometimes says "Look at me. Don't look at me. Look at me now." This is structured the same as a line from the commercial in [[Family Resemblence]].

=== Real-World References ===
*When Homestar is on the phone with Marzipan, the way he says, "Yes? Yes. Yes. Yes? Noo! Yes. Yes?" is a reference to [[Wikipedia: Abe Lincoln Must Die!|episode 4]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Sam & Max Season One|Sam & Max Season One]]'', where Sam answers a phone with the Commissioner and says that in the same way.
**Additionally, the music which plays when Strong Bad acquires bonus items and trophies is ''Item Get'' from [[Wikipedia:Reality 2.0|episode 5]] of the same season.
*Strong Bad's original first line is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Lemon Demon|Lemon Demon]] song [[Wikipedia:The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]], which became popular on the internet after it was made into a Flash cartoon music video.
**In the final game, the prize for the Race to the End of the Race is the Silver Trophy of Ultimate Destiny.
* When investigating the stands near the track Strong Bad mentions the stands being emptier than a Stryper concert. [[Wikipedia:Stryper|Stryper]] was a Christian metal band from the '80s.
*When Strong Bad attempts to pick up the hurdle after the first run of the Race to the End of the Race, he claims that it must be made of some very heavy metal, and lists several materials he thinks it could be made of, including "black sabbath". [[Wikipedia:Black Sabbath|Black Sabbath]] was a heavy metal band which had great influence on the genre.
*After trimming the hedge near Bub's Concession Stand, having Strong Bad look at it leads him to call it "the [[Gibson Flying V|flying V]]". This is an actual guitar made by [[Wikipedia:Gibson Guitar Corporation|Gibson Guitar Corp.]] The hedge's shape is also accurate to the Gibson Flying V.
*Throughout most of the game, Strong Bad's fridge contains only a single jar of mayonnaise. In [[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis|''Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis'']], another point-and-click adventure game, Indiana Jones had only a single jar of mayonnaise in his fridge.
*Bubs will tell Strong Bad to "stay gold" after ending conversation. This is a reference to the book [[Wikipedia:The Outsiders|The Outsiders]] when the main character, Ponyboy, is told to "stay gold" from his friend.
*Strong Bad's [[DELETED|Deleted]] line, "Survey Says...DELETED!", is a reference to the popular game show [[Wikipedia:Family Feud|Family Feud]].
*When Coach Z discovers the Total Load in Pom Pom's locker, he cries out "[[Wikipedia: Cypress Hill|Cypress Hill!]]".
*After giving Marzipan the chocolates, Strong Bad says he gave her some "[[Wikipedia: Funky Cold Medina|Funky Cold Ma-Chocolates]]".
*When he collects all four trophies, Strong Bad speaks in a manner similar to the Count from [[Sesame Street]].
*Strong Bad saying "Check, Check one. Syllabus" into the microphone at the track is a reference to the line "Check, Check one. Sibilance" spoken by Barry (Tom Hanks) while conducting a microphone check for the band Aerosmith, before their performance in a ''Wayne's World'' sketch in a 1990 episode of ''Saturday Night Live''.
*The "Jane Austentaceous Chamber Music Jam" CD (the third one in the See Dee Spinner) is a reference to Jane Austin, who wrote books set in nineteenth century England, when chamber music was common.
**Strong Mad's line just after turning on the CD for the first time is a reference to Jane Austin's most famous book, Pride and Prejudice. Mr. Darcy is a main character in the story.
*At the party, when complimenting Coach Z, Strong Bad speaks some Swedish, ending with "Bork, Bork, Bork", one of the many Mock-Swedish words said by [[Wikipedia:The Muppets|The Muppets' Swedish Chef]].
*When Strong Bad hides behind the bonsai bush in the King of Town's Castle, he says [[Wikipedia:It's Arbor Day, Charlie Brown|"It's Arbor Day, Strongly Brown"]].
*When kicking The Cheat into the dryer, The Cheatspeak is [[Homestar_Ruiner_Responses_(House_of_Strong)#The_Cheat|subtitled as ''Wii?'']].
*One of Strong Bad's metal detector finding comments contains the phrase, "I hope it's a-bubblin' crude." This is a reference to the theme song from the television show "[[Wikipedia: Beverly Hillbillies|The Beverly Hillbillies]]", where Jed Clampett strikes it rich by finding "a-bubblin' crude" oil.
*When Strong Bad walks near Homestar Runner at the field, one of the things he is chanting is "I must, I must, I must improve my bust," a reference to the young adult novel ''[[Wikipedia:Are You There_God? It's Me, Margaret|Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Judy Blume|Judy Blume]].
*When Strong Sad comments on his asthma after Strong Bad looks at the Strong Sad trophy, Strong Bad replies with "Sucks to your asmar!", which is a quote from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Lord of the Flies|Lord of the Flies]]''.
*When seen and questioned about using hedge shears on the Homestar float by Marzipan, Strong Bad responds, "I'm giving him [[Wikipedia:Shave and a Haircut|a shave? and a haircut? two bits?]]".

== External Links ==
*[[SBCG4AP:homestarruiner|Official episode webpage]]
*[[Telltale:videos/homestarruinergameplay1|Watch the gameplay video for "Homestar Ruiner"]]
**[http://telltale.vo.llnwd.net/o15/videos/sbcg4ap/homestar101/homestar101gameplay.flv FLV video file for "Homestar Ruiner"]
*[[Telltale:videos/homestarruinergameplay2|Watch the second gameplay video for "Homestar Ruiner"]]
*[[YouTube:wCGdWBRgMIQ|YouTube mirror of the older version of the first gameplay video for "Homestar Ruiner"]]
*[[Telltale:community/blogs/id-337|Read May 14, 2008 press release about "Homestar Ruiner"]]
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/strongbad/homestarruiner/walkthrough Read a bare-bones walkthrough of "Homestar Ruiner"]
*[[forum:14052|forum thread re: "Homestar Ruiner" trailer]]
*[[forum:14627|forum thread re: "Homestar Ruiner"]]

{{SBCG4AP}}

Total Load

SnakeBoxer202 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:06:20 GMT

SnakeBoxer202:

'''Total Load''' is a "performance enancement" powder first seen in [[alternate universe]].

It was later seen in [[Homestar Ruiner]], when [[Strong Bad]] ordered a free sample to use, only to discover that using it will cause "mysterious [[pants]] issues".

{{stub}}

Total Load

SnakeBoxer202 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:06:07 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: New page: {{image}} '''Total Load''' is a "performance enancement" powder first seen in alternate universe. It was later seen in Homestar Ruiner, when Strong Bad ordered a free sample t...

{{image}}
'''Total Load''' is a "performance enancement" powder first seen in [[alternate universe]].

It was later seen in [[Homestar Ruiner]], when [[Strong Bad]] ordered a free sample to use, only to discover that using it will cause "mysterious [[pants]] issues".

{{stub}}

Race to the End of the Universe

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:46:59 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: redirect to Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race

#REDIRECT [[Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race]]

Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:46:30 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: redirect to Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race

#REDIRECT [[Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race]]

Race to the End of the Race

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:46:01 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: redirect to Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race

#REDIRECT [[Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race]]

action figure

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:44:45 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Fast Forward */

{{sbenav|42}}

[[Image:sbemail42.PNG|thumb|Smells like peanut action!]]

Kyle Rechsteiner asks Strong Bad what he would look like as an action figure.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, September 16, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:45

'''Page Title:''' COMPY 386

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Doo doo do doo, doo duh doo ''doo''!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
If someone made a Strong Bad 
action figure, what kind of 
awesome stuff would it be able 
to do? 
 
Kyle Rechsteiner 
San Mateo, CA</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Camateos, Scamateos" instead of "San Mateo, CA".}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Oh man, Kyle. My action figure would have it all. First of all:

''{cut to a screen where Strong Bad's action figure appears as he details it, while the music Strong Bad was humming at the beginning of the email plays}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' It'd look exactly like me...

''{the action figure first appears; it is considerably taller, buffer, and with a much smaller head than the actual Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...you know, in terms of his physique, and the relative size of his head to his body, it'd be exactly the same.

''{a croissant appears in the action figure's hand and folds out into a star shape}''

'''STRONG BAD''': And of course I'd come armed to the teeth with my Chinese throwing croissant!

''{says "croissant" with a heavy French accent}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Then, I'd be able to shoot sparks from my mouth, you know like...

''{the screen darkens and sparks come out of the action figure's mouth}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...khfkhfkhffffkhfk, it'd make a noise like that. And when you push down on my head, there'd be BOOFFF!

''{the action figure's head is pushed down, and the fists go up}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Double Deuce action!

''{the action figure's fists go up and down}''

'''STRONG BAD''': And then of course, you could take the head off, too...

''{the action figure's head pops off}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...and there'd be a hole where you could pour like, motor oil...

''{black stuff pours into the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...or grapefruit juice...

''{white stuff pours into the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...or whatever kinda junk you wanna put in there.

''{the action figure's head comes back on}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...And then, turn out the lights—

''{the screen darkens and the action figure's muscles glow}''

'''STRONG BAD''': —glow-in-the-dark abs, man! Oh! Oh! And get it wet...

''{the action figure is dunked in a glass of water}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...and you get SEVERE KNIFE FIGHT DAMAGE...

''{scars appear on the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...like magic appears! But that's not all! UH-OH!

''{the action figure's left leg falls off}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Battle damage! And finally, switch to the dispenser fist...

''{the action figure lifts its fist, which has a hole in the front}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...to ooze radioactive goo!

''{green slime oozes out of the dispenser fist}''

''{Cut back to the Compy 386}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' I think those things would sell like hotcakes, man. Ooh! Especially if they ''smelled'' like hotcakes! Anyways, I tried to make one of my own one time and it didn't turn out as good as my imagination.

''{Strong Bad holds up a peanut with pipe cleaners for arms and a painted face with cheap plastic glue-on eyes}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Basically all it has is...smells-like-peanut action. I'm lookin' for some licensees.

''{Strong Bad starts playing with the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Doo doo doooo! ''{starts speaking for the figure}'' Hey Homestar, get away from here! Holy crap!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* At the end you can click on the [[Peanut Strong Bad]] and see the package of the cool Strong Bad [[Action Figure Character Variations|action figure]]. Keep clicking to see some more characters as action figures. All the toys are made by [[Cheap as Free]] Toys, are for ages 3–5, and cost $11.01. The characters and package blurbs are:
** Strong Bad
*** Exciting Action Man!
*** Chinese Throwing [[Croissant]]!
*** Severe Double Deuce Action!
*** Smells Like Hotcakes!
**** If you zoom in on it, you'll see that the "M" is partially transposed over the "E". In fact, the entire "smells like hotcakes" sticker has poorly spaced text, perhaps due to a missing font when the Flash file was created.
** [[Coach Z]]
*** Green Colored Hero!
*** High-Pitched Super Sonic Whistle!
*** [[Butt-Patting]] Action
** [[Strong Mad]]
*** Action Toy!
*** He's The Biggest One!
*** Friends With [[The Cheat]]!
** [[Pom Pom]]
*** Action Fighting Guy!
*** Secret [[Cell Phones|Cell Phone]]!
*** The Ladies Choice!
** [[Strong Sad]]
*** Action-Like Figurine!
*** Atomic Calligraphy Pen!
*** Extreme Whining And Crying!
** [[Homestar]]
*** Super Action Doll
*** Spiked Battle Marshmallows
*** [[Lack of Visible Arms|No Arms]]! Like Real Life!
** Peanut Strong Bad
*** Homemade Peanut Warrior
*** Museum Quality
*** Smells Like Peanut Action!

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*All of the toys are labeled [[$11.01]]. They are priced this way because [[Matt Chapman]]'s birthday is November 1st. (This was revealed by [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] in the [[flag day]] [[flag day#Commentary Transcript|commentary]].)

===Remarks===
*At the beginning, Strong Bad is humming the same tune that is in the background when it shows the action figures.
*Strong Mad's action figure doesn't have the 'M' logo on its chest.

===Goofs===
*At the end, you can still adjust the Compy's contrast through Strong Bad's hand.

===Inside References===
*The "Chinese Throwing Croissant" is likely a reference to the end of [[3 Wishes]], when Strong Bad starts to ramble on about how the horns in his drawing look like croissants and how he'd really like a couple of them. He even pronounces the word "croissants" with a heavy French accent here, which he also did in 3 Wishes.
*When you push on its head, it supposedly has "[[Double Deuce]]" action. This is referring to [[the bird]].

===Real-World References===
*All of the action figures are modeled strongly after the line of toys based on [[Wikipedia:He-Man|''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'']]. In particular, they all have:
**Identical bodies from the same toy mold with a different head and paint job for different characters (except Strong Mad, who is bigger and has no neck, and Homestar, who has no arms)
**[[Exaggerated Strong Bad|Exaggerated muscles]]
**Limited poses and movement (except for rotating limbs)
**The "Battle Damage" could also refer to the design of the He-Man action figures. The legs were held onto the body by a rubber band through the pelvis. This rubber band was prone to breaking, causing the legs to fall off. Also, one of the He-Man figures released had a chest plate with a spring-loaded part that would rotate when struck, so that it looked like it was dented.
*The sparking mouth was actually used in some '80s toys, such as the [[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|Ghostbusters]] Banshee.
*Most modern action figures and related toys refer to "battle damage" as a special version of a character or vehicle modeled to look as if it were in a recent and brutal fight. However, it's more likely that Strong Bad's action figure battle damage concept is referring to the [[Wikipedia:Battletech|Battletech]] line of 'action figure vehicles' by Tyco. These figures had 'blast panels' that, when struck, would cause parts of the toy to fly off (commercials would showcase the toy's "one weakness--'battle damage!'"). In fact, the Clan Hunchback IIC had a battle damage effect exactly like Strong Bad's concept (the figure's left leg falling off). Battle damage was also used for some Gundam figures.

===Fast Forward===
*The tune that plays throughout the email returns in the [[Ab-Abber 2000|Ab-Abber]] commercial in [[suntan]], in [[army]] in the [[Firebert]] action figure Easter egg, in the Strong Badman sequence in [[alternate universe]], and during the [[Race to the End of the Race]] in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
*The peanut Strong Bad action figure appears again in [[2 emails]] and [[diorama]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail42.html|watch "action figure"]]
*[[HR:sbemail42.swf|view the Flash file for "action figure"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Advertisements]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

action figure

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:44:29 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Fast Forward */

{{sbenav|42}}

[[Image:sbemail42.PNG|thumb|Smells like peanut action!]]

Kyle Rechsteiner asks Strong Bad what he would look like as an action figure.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, September 16, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:45

'''Page Title:''' COMPY 386

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Doo doo do doo, doo duh doo ''doo''!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
If someone made a Strong Bad 
action figure, what kind of 
awesome stuff would it be able 
to do? 
 
Kyle Rechsteiner 
San Mateo, CA</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Camateos, Scamateos" instead of "San Mateo, CA".}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Oh man, Kyle. My action figure would have it all. First of all:

''{cut to a screen where Strong Bad's action figure appears as he details it, while the music Strong Bad was humming at the beginning of the email plays}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' It'd look exactly like me...

''{the action figure first appears; it is considerably taller, buffer, and with a much smaller head than the actual Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...you know, in terms of his physique, and the relative size of his head to his body, it'd be exactly the same.

''{a croissant appears in the action figure's hand and folds out into a star shape}''

'''STRONG BAD''': And of course I'd come armed to the teeth with my Chinese throwing croissant!

''{says "croissant" with a heavy French accent}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Then, I'd be able to shoot sparks from my mouth, you know like...

''{the screen darkens and sparks come out of the action figure's mouth}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...khfkhfkhffffkhfk, it'd make a noise like that. And when you push down on my head, there'd be BOOFFF!

''{the action figure's head is pushed down, and the fists go up}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Double Deuce action!

''{the action figure's fists go up and down}''

'''STRONG BAD''': And then of course, you could take the head off, too...

''{the action figure's head pops off}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...and there'd be a hole where you could pour like, motor oil...

''{black stuff pours into the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...or grapefruit juice...

''{white stuff pours into the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...or whatever kinda junk you wanna put in there.

''{the action figure's head comes back on}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...And then, turn out the lights—

''{the screen darkens and the action figure's muscles glow}''

'''STRONG BAD''': —glow-in-the-dark abs, man! Oh! Oh! And get it wet...

''{the action figure is dunked in a glass of water}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...and you get SEVERE KNIFE FIGHT DAMAGE...

''{scars appear on the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...like magic appears! But that's not all! UH-OH!

''{the action figure's left leg falls off}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Battle damage! And finally, switch to the dispenser fist...

''{the action figure lifts its fist, which has a hole in the front}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...to ooze radioactive goo!

''{green slime oozes out of the dispenser fist}''

''{Cut back to the Compy 386}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' I think those things would sell like hotcakes, man. Ooh! Especially if they ''smelled'' like hotcakes! Anyways, I tried to make one of my own one time and it didn't turn out as good as my imagination.

''{Strong Bad holds up a peanut with pipe cleaners for arms and a painted face with cheap plastic glue-on eyes}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Basically all it has is...smells-like-peanut action. I'm lookin' for some licensees.

''{Strong Bad starts playing with the action figure}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Doo doo doooo! ''{starts speaking for the figure}'' Hey Homestar, get away from here! Holy crap!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* At the end you can click on the [[Peanut Strong Bad]] and see the package of the cool Strong Bad [[Action Figure Character Variations|action figure]]. Keep clicking to see some more characters as action figures. All the toys are made by [[Cheap as Free]] Toys, are for ages 3–5, and cost $11.01. The characters and package blurbs are:
** Strong Bad
*** Exciting Action Man!
*** Chinese Throwing [[Croissant]]!
*** Severe Double Deuce Action!
*** Smells Like Hotcakes!
**** If you zoom in on it, you'll see that the "M" is partially transposed over the "E". In fact, the entire "smells like hotcakes" sticker has poorly spaced text, perhaps due to a missing font when the Flash file was created.
** [[Coach Z]]
*** Green Colored Hero!
*** High-Pitched Super Sonic Whistle!
*** [[Butt-Patting]] Action
** [[Strong Mad]]
*** Action Toy!
*** He's The Biggest One!
*** Friends With [[The Cheat]]!
** [[Pom Pom]]
*** Action Fighting Guy!
*** Secret [[Cell Phones|Cell Phone]]!
*** The Ladies Choice!
** [[Strong Sad]]
*** Action-Like Figurine!
*** Atomic Calligraphy Pen!
*** Extreme Whining And Crying!
** [[Homestar]]
*** Super Action Doll
*** Spiked Battle Marshmallows
*** [[Lack of Visible Arms|No Arms]]! Like Real Life!
** Peanut Strong Bad
*** Homemade Peanut Warrior
*** Museum Quality
*** Smells Like Peanut Action!

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*All of the toys are labeled [[$11.01]]. They are priced this way because [[Matt Chapman]]'s birthday is November 1st. (This was revealed by [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] in the [[flag day]] [[flag day#Commentary Transcript|commentary]].)

===Remarks===
*At the beginning, Strong Bad is humming the same tune that is in the background when it shows the action figures.
*Strong Mad's action figure doesn't have the 'M' logo on its chest.

===Goofs===
*At the end, you can still adjust the Compy's contrast through Strong Bad's hand.

===Inside References===
*The "Chinese Throwing Croissant" is likely a reference to the end of [[3 Wishes]], when Strong Bad starts to ramble on about how the horns in his drawing look like croissants and how he'd really like a couple of them. He even pronounces the word "croissants" with a heavy French accent here, which he also did in 3 Wishes.
*When you push on its head, it supposedly has "[[Double Deuce]]" action. This is referring to [[the bird]].

===Real-World References===
*All of the action figures are modeled strongly after the line of toys based on [[Wikipedia:He-Man|''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'']]. In particular, they all have:
**Identical bodies from the same toy mold with a different head and paint job for different characters (except Strong Mad, who is bigger and has no neck, and Homestar, who has no arms)
**[[Exaggerated Strong Bad|Exaggerated muscles]]
**Limited poses and movement (except for rotating limbs)
**The "Battle Damage" could also refer to the design of the He-Man action figures. The legs were held onto the body by a rubber band through the pelvis. This rubber band was prone to breaking, causing the legs to fall off. Also, one of the He-Man figures released had a chest plate with a spring-loaded part that would rotate when struck, so that it looked like it was dented.
*The sparking mouth was actually used in some '80s toys, such as the [[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|Ghostbusters]] Banshee.
*Most modern action figures and related toys refer to "battle damage" as a special version of a character or vehicle modeled to look as if it were in a recent and brutal fight. However, it's more likely that Strong Bad's action figure battle damage concept is referring to the [[Wikipedia:Battletech|Battletech]] line of 'action figure vehicles' by Tyco. These figures had 'blast panels' that, when struck, would cause parts of the toy to fly off (commercials would showcase the toy's "one weakness--'battle damage!'"). In fact, the Clan Hunchback IIC had a battle damage effect exactly like Strong Bad's concept (the figure's left leg falling off). Battle damage was also used for some Gundam figures.

===Fast Forward===
*The tune that plays throughout the email returns in the [[Ab-Abber 2000|Ab-Abber]] commercial in [[suntan]], in [[army]] in the [[Firebert]] action figure Easter egg, in the Strong Badman sequence in [[alternate universe]], and during the [[Race to the End of the Race]] in [[Homstar Ruiner]].
*The peanut Strong Bad action figure appears again in [[2 emails]] and [[diorama]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail42.html|watch "action figure"]]
*[[HR:sbemail42.swf|view the Flash file for "action figure"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Advertisements]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Homestar Runner and Coach Z's Relationship

SnakeBoxer202 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:36:50 GMT

SnakeBoxer202:

[[Image:sbemail25.PNG|thumb|"I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."]]
Homestar Runner and Coach Z's relationship is mostly a good one. Homestar and Coach Z are usually seen together when they are having a friendly (and often confusing) conversation, or earlier on, when Homestar would go to Coach Z for advice. Of course, like most character relationships, they occasionally have bad moments, but these are not very frequent.

== Homestar and Coach Z Getting Along ==

*[[A Jorb Well Done]] — Coach Z tells Homestar that he did a great job at practice. A little while later, Homestar (along with others) attempts to help Coach Z fix his accent.
*[[Homestarloween Party]] — Homestar invites Coach Z to his [[Halloween]] party.
*[[In Search Of The Yello Dello]] — Coach Z helps Homestar with Marzipan's birthday present.
*Email [[super powers]] — Homestar and Coach Z are talking about tight pants. When Homestar's hat keeps popping off, Coach Z asks him if he's all right.
*[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]] — Coach Z and Homestar (along with Bubs) are in some sort of police force together.
*[[No Hands On Deck!]] — Homestar tells Coach Z about the deck he's going to build(of course, he appears to be telling everyone).
*[[Happy Hallow-day]] — Coach Z makes "squeaky wheelchair noises" for Homestar.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — Homestar gets Coach Z a Decemberween present, which was a rusty old steak knife.
*[[Fall Float Parade]] — Coach Z calls Homestar's Swe At Shirt float adorable.
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Homestar sings a song to Coach Z so he won't have to spend Decemberween all alone, again.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]] — Coach Z calls Marzipan just so Homestar won't look so sad at practice.
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] — Coach Z attempts to help Homestar choose a present for Strong Bad.
*Email [[anything]] — Coach Z compliments Homestar's shoes made out of shoe boxes by calling them "some fresh kicks".
*Email [[impression]] — Coach Z tells Homestar that he has some nice hippo slippers. Later, at the afterparty, Coach Z is talking to Homestar again, saying that he meant to tell him that he thought the sock on his head was a nice touch.
*Email [[labor day]] — Homestar invites Coach Z as one of his guests to his labor day party.
*[[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] — Coach Z tells The Homestar Runner he likes his wig. Later he compliments on Homestar's star shirt, then Homestar gets him, [[Bubs]], [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], and himself meatball subs.

==Homestar Runner and Coach Z in Conflict==
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] — Homestar gets annoyed with Coach Z's repetitive and irrelevant advice.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — Coach Z gets annoyed with Homestar's requests for something watery.
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Homestar asks Coach Z not to come to his house for Decemberween.
*[[A Jorb well Done]] — Homestar and Pom Pom laugh at Coach Z's accent, and at the end of the cartoon, Homestar gets annoyed at Coach Z mispronouncing his name.
[[Category:Character Relationships]]

Talk:Homestar Ruiner Walkthrough

SnakeBoxer202 — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:34:49 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Nuisance Trophy */

Trudgemank

SnakeBoxer202 — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:03:17 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: /* Lyrics */

{{watchtoon|trudgemank.html}}

[[Image:Trudgemank.png‎ |thumb|right|220px|]]

'''Powered by The Cheat'''

The Cheat animates a music video for Taranchula featuring Peacey P.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Taranchula]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Peacey P]]

'''Places:''' [[The Cheat's Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' Monday, August 18, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 1:47

'''Page Title:''' Get Your Product Phat For Ya!

==Lyrics==

'''TARANCHULA:'''
Mired in the bog, 
Tromping through the sludge, 
Dying on the floor, 
Drown in the trudge,

Drowning in the Trudgemank,

Drowning in the Trudgemank,

'''PEACEY P:''' ''{talking}'' Hello? What? Who? Taranchula? Aww, fool. Wait, how much? Dang! 

''{rapping}'' 
Peacey P back on the mic again 
Getting paid to rhyme in Scandinavian 
Trudging through the mank so it's easy to find me 
Mixing rap and heavy metal, like it's the early nineties.
 
91 or 93. Anthrax and P.E. 
 
I got the Crample-O style and the Crample-O flow 
Got these metal-heads all up in my "STU G.O." 
Get your product phat for ya 
'''Taranchula''' 
Get your product phat 
 
'''Both''' 
AHHHHHHH! 
 
'''PEACEY P:''' 
I'll say it once again, just in case'd you missed it, 
Leakin' gravy out your ears cause your head is a biscuit.
 
Ya'll biscuit-heads! 

That's what happens when you're down with the trudgemank! 
 
'''TARANCHULA:''' 
Get your product phat for ya
 
'''PEACEY P:''' 
That's what happens when you're down with the trudgemank!
 
'''TARANCHULA:''' 
Get your product phat for ya
 
'''PEACEY P:''' 
That's what happens when you're down with the trudgemank!
 
'''TARANCHULA:''' 
Get your product phat for ya
 
'''PEACEY P:''' 
That's what happens when you're down with the
 
(Both) Trudgemank! 
 
'''PEACEY P:'''
''{talking}''Maybe some of ya'll fellahs could maybe think about taking a shower somethin' next time before ya come up in here. Stank!
 
'''THE CHEAT''' Hmmm? Hmmm? Hmmmmmmm..... Hmmm! ''{takes out a [[pizza]] trophy and places it on the desk}}'' Yeaaaa!
 
{{sectionstub}}

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

===Trivia===
*The bubbles (after the meat slithering across the floor) have the Taranchula Logo on them as part of the reflected light pattern.

===Remarks===

===Inside References===
*The pizza trophy that [[Strong Bad]] said that he would give to The Cheat in [[crazy cartoon]] appears in this music video at the end.

*The run-down, industrial-like environment as well as the screw and the slab of meat at the beginning of the music video is a reference to Tarachula's previously-seen music video: "The Decoupage", seen in [[death metal]]

*As with previous songs featuring Peacey P, this song is produced by [[Crample-O Stow Records]]. "Crample-O" appears in the lyrics and on the side of Peacey P's yacht.

===Real-World References===
*Peacey P refers to [[Wikipedia:Anthrax (band)|Anthrax]] and "[[Wikipedia:Public Enemy (band)|P.E.]]", who collaborated on a remake of "[[Wikipedia:Bring the Noise|Bring the Noise]]" in 1991, an early teaming of heavy metal and rap.

*"Trudgment Night Soundtrack" is a reference to the 1993 [[Wikipedia:Judgment_Night_(film)#Soundtrack|soundtrack]] for the movie [[Wikipedia:Judgment_Night_(film)|Judgment Night]] which featured pairings of rock and hip hop artists.

==See Also==
*The [[Trudgemank Visuals|visuals]] that occur during this music video.

==External links==
*[[HR:trudgemank.html|Watch "Trudgemank"]]
*[[HR:trudgemank.swf|View the flash file for "Trudgemank"]]
*[[Forum:14634|Forum thread re: Trudgemank]]

{{subtitlesLinks|trudgemank}}

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]

User:SnakeBoxer202

SnakeBoxer202 — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:40:22 GMT

SnakeBoxer202: New page: Hello. I'm SnakeBoxer202, and I'm not making a character video parody. I'm a big fan of Homestar Runner, so I decided to join this Wiki. I've been going here a lot for the past year or ...

Hello. I'm SnakeBoxer202, and I'm not making a character video parody.

I'm a big fan of Homestar Runner, so I decided to join this Wiki. I've been going here a lot for the past year or so, but didn't decide to join until recently (2008). Anyway, I'll do my best to uphold the HRWiki way.

BTW, favorite characters: [[Pom Pom]], [[Homsar]], [[Coach Z]], and [[The Cheat]].