http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Soapergem From Homestar Runner Wiki en MediaWiki 1.15.4 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 02:39:39 GMT http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am a web developer from Madison, Wisconsin.<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/7v2z8.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/7v2z8.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/3UJqd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/3UJqd.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/jBmtt.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/jBmtt.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/sM98N.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/sM98N.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/xAR0E.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/xAR0E.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://i.imgur.com/UYWN7.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://decenturl.com/youtube/sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 25 May 2011 22:05:08 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am a web developer from Madison, Wisconsin.<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/7v2z8.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/7v2z8.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/3UJqd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/3UJqd.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/jBmtt.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/jBmtt.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/sM98N.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/sM98N.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://i.imgur.com/xAR0E.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://i.imgur.com/xAR0E.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://decenturl.com/youtube/sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 25 May 2011 22:02:57 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''23 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am a web developer from Madison, Wisconsin.<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://decenturl.com/youtube/sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 25 May 2011 20:29:17 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:What%27s_Her_Face <p>Soapergem:&#32;/**/Images</p> <hr /> <div>{{featuredarticle}}<br /> == Questionable Note ==<br /> <br /> (She is the girl) ... who seems to be the one who takes the most damage, physically and emotionally.<br /> :She actually seems to get killed the least often of any of the girls.<br /> <br /> Uhmm... no? Being &quot;killed&quot; and &quot;[taking]... damage, physically and emotionally&quot; are different things. Strong Sad could tell you that. Also, emotional pain is completely irrelevant to death. So although you MAY AS well be right that she GETS KILLED less often (in fact I think only thrice), that doesn't contradict the above statement.<br /> *punt = fatal<br /> *bat whacking = not fatal but painful<br /> *not getting to go to the mall = emotionally painful but far from fatal<br /> *possums = painful, but not fatal<br /> *heavy object falling = fatal<br /> *being entirely overlooked = emotionally painful; more fatal than mall but not that fatal<br /> *wave of babies = slightly painful; mainly annoying<br /> *Mrs. Commanderson's claws = barely painful<br /> *almost getting eaten = not yet but almost fatal<br /> *legless desk = very degrading, emotional pain equals very yes<br /> *stuck playing bass = emotionally painful<br /> *eaten by shark = fatal<br /> I think perhaps the fact that she gets killed less might increase this. Once you're dead that's it, you can't feel it anymore. But if you're alive the pain just keeps coming along- Overused and Underappreciated (I'm not logged in.)<br /> <br /> I'd also like to remind everyone that she's the only desireable one.<br /> <br /> :Yeah. But uh, minds don't think alike. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:25, 8 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *She has to be about 17 if she's had her lisence for a year. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 13:20, 27 June 2005<br /> <br /> :*Not necessarily. We don't know the licensing laws in Mundelow. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree with the person who wasn't logged in. I also agree she's the most desirable.[[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]<br /> <br /> ==From the Paper &quot;Teen Girl Squad: Class Stratification and the Role of Otherness Within A Multi-teen Peer Group Dynamic&quot;==<br /> <br /> I think that's because she's there as a [[Wikipedia:Foil (literature)|foil]]. She's the 90s-alt-quasigrunge element to offset the materialistic, leetspeaking, &quot;boymongering&quot; (?), tone of the rest of the Squad. Granted, those traits are primarily ascribable to Cheerleader, but as highlighted in Episode 9, the Squad takes its cues from her. WHF is not so emphatic in her counterculturalism as to leave the Squad, which I think is still a point in her favor. She stays real, principled, and level-headed, but not unnecessarily, divisively, or wearisomely so--if she did she'd be Marzipan. [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 17:19, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I had not thought it possible for anyone to deconstruct What's Her Face in such a way. But you did. If I could give out an honorary degree from CGNU, I would. &amp;mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}<br /> <br /> Thanks, smokingmonkeydude. But wait, I just noticed the part where it says &quot;her real name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer.&quot; Anybody know where they're getting that from? [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 06:56, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[comic]]. [[So and So]] is referred to as Kristina, so it logically follows that the other three girls are the other three emailers names. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 08:00, 27 September 2005 (BST)<br /> <br /> Thanks--it finally ocurred to me to search for it, and I found that. I have a hunch she's the Jennifer. That would make Cheerleader Joy, of course.[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 07:03, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :What evidence do you have to back up your claim? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:11, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh, none; I wasn't really saying that as a serious theory based on something in a 'toon, just musing based on my gut-level feelings about those names (probably related to people I've known who had them).[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 00:07, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Eh, I always thought she should be Joy. But that's just me. -[[User:PAUAU|PAUAU]]<br /> :I say she's Jennifer. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::I think she'd be Jennifer, not that this really matters. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}<br /> :::I always figured her name would be Joy since she's usually the most depressed.<br /> :::I think The Ugly One should be called Joy.--[[User:Trinculoid|Trinculoid]] 01:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Most Dates ==<br /> <br /> Perhaps it's just me, but What's Her Face seems to have the most romantic interest than anyone else. Case in point.<br /> <br /> There is a hint that she's dating Thomas, the one-foot alien.<br /> She apparently dated Science Fiction Greg, and was willing to do so when Cheerleader died in episode 9.<br /> She went off to find a &quot;remote access point&quot; with the Wireless Wizard<br /> DnD Greg show interest when she goes off with the Wireless Wizard<br /> <br /> The only way to assume otherwise is if Cheerleader actually did get valentines from all the football players except one (presumably Quarterback).<br /> <br /> :Hmm... that is interesting. Considering Cheerleader is the stereotypical popular high school girl, she most likely did get a valentine from all of the football players. ;-) But, yeah, that's a really good point you make about What's Her Face. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 04:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think Whats Her Face has the most COMMONLY APPEARING love interests.<br /> <br /> == Hey, is this notable? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, is it just me, or does What's Her Face have the most expressive face of all the teen girls? Honestly, she seems to have a the strongest reaction to events. A good example is in issue 11, cheerleader and So-and-So ignore The Ugly One when she says &quot;I'm gonna miss those oak leaves...&quot; but What's Her Face looks freaked out. Also, when Mrs.Soandsoerson screams at the girls in issue 8, her mouth engsmslode'd up her face. Is that notable? {{User:Haldo/sig}}<br /> <br /> == Images ==<br /> <br /> There are already three images of What's Her Face in the article, so I didn't want to just go cluttering stuff up, but nonetheless I'm in favor of also including this one:<br /> <br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]</div> Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:13:50 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:What%27s_Her_Face http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File:Spinner.gif <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>Animated GIF of What's Her Face from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]] of [[Teen Girl Squad]].<br /> {{web-screenshot}}<br /> {{personal-image|Soapergem}}</div> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:16:03 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File_talk:Spinner.gif http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''23 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] and [[Wikipedia:Computer science|Computer Science]]. I also used to be a music minor as well as an education major.<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://decenturl.com/youtube/sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:51:39 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''22 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - 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I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] and [[Wikipedia:Computer science|Computer Science]]. I also used to be a music minor as well as an education major.<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://decenturl.com/youtube/sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:38:57 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:web_comics <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>==Penny Arcade==<br /> <br /> Doesn't anyone think that that Game Pox comic looks like Penny Arcade?[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :What, the first comic? With the brick? That's the first thing that came to MY mind, and I've never even read Penny Arcade. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Already in Real-World References. And yes, yes it does. It's a reference, no doubt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :While Strong Bad is pretty clearly modelled after Gabriel, I don't know who the Strong Sad character is supposed to be. But the speech balloons and fonts look similar, also. I think the reference should be put back. (I think it was removed earlier.) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Strong Bad's point is that there are a million comics like this. We can't assume that he's making a reference to one specific comic. And as far as being modeled after Gabriel or whoever, I disagree. And besides.. again.. lots of comics are alike. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::STUFF'd. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> If not PA, its most likely CAD<br /> <br /> [[User:69.125.174.75|69.125.174.75]]<br /> Poster of that fun fact<br /> <br /> :I don't think so. There's nothing that reminds me of CAD in &quot;Game Pox&quot;. If anything, Strong Sad is reminiscent of PvP a ''little'' bit, but not enough for me to call it a reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> That is definitely a PA reference. If you say otherwise, well, you're wrong, and you're just going to have to deal with that. And that's my objective opinion on the matter. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, after seeing the cartoon and noticing the conspicuous absence of a Penny Arcade fun fact, I moseyed over to look for the conversation. Obviously it needs to keep conversing a little longer, but my two cents are in favor of it. Yes yes, there are Ctrl-Alt-Del and PvP and Dueling Analogs and VGcats and ever and more. But TBC didn't have to put a shirt on Strong Bad at all, much less a yellow one. Plus his black hair, scowly expression, and backwards-leaning posture&amp;mdash;I think they were trying their best to give us an overt reference. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Not only that, but look at the way the eyes and necks are drawn. The art style is closer to PA than PvP or CAD.<br /> <br /> ::I dunno, I've been reading penny arcade almost as long as I've been going to homestar runner, and I just don't see it. I'll grant that the characters look somewhat like their real life counterparts, but I say that's a pretty oblique reference. There's nothing else really penny arcade about the comic, none of the writing screams penny arcade (except maybe the very early stuff). I still say it's too much of a stretch. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 15:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I think you most likely feel this way ''because'' you're very familiar with PA and thus notice the differences, but to someone who's only passingly familiar with it, it's pretty obviously supposed to be PA. Plus, PA is the most famous of of the gamernerd nerdgeek webcomics, and they're well-known for being impossible to understand if you don't play video games (just see the article on them in Wired...)--[[User:75.68.233.187|75.68.233.187]] 15:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :While Strongsad's character is debatable, Strongbad is definitely a reference to Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Strong Bad is Gabe from Penny Arcade. It is possible that Strong Sad is supposed to be someone else entirely from a different comic. Below someone suggests the idea that he's from Ctrl-Alt-Del, about which i know nothing -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Personally, I thought it was the Red vs Blue comic when I first saw this email.<br /> ::Then you're mental. It could not look less like or be less related to RvB -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As I said earlier, Strongbad's character is a reference to Penny Arcade. However, the way it's worded now, it sounds like the bit is ONLY a reference to Penny Arcade; it's obviously slamming the thousands of webcomics out there that are Two Guys Talking About Videogames. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I still agree; Strongbad's character is a PA reference. Strong ''Sad's'' character, however, I have no idea about it. And just to clear things up for the nay-sayers, if you still don't believe us, take a look at this picture:<br /> :: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2706/sbpaee9.gif<br /> :: But like Stev0 said, it is important to distinguish between the two characters, since there's no resemblance at all between Strong Sad's character and Tycho. If anyone could figure out who he's supposed to be, that would be even better. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 05:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Captain N parody? ==<br /> <br /> Part of this email clearly seems to be sending up Captain N the Game Master. A series which featured a human in the video game world, and the game worlds, story plots and characters often bore little or no resemblance to their game counterparts. For example the Secret Collect character is a whiney coward not unlike Simon Belmont's portrayal in Captain N. The in-jokes may even go further than I recognise.<br /> <br /> :Reminded me more of the Pac-Man cartoon, personally. Captain N centered around a real-world human, as well as a whole *group* of random NES characters; not much of a similarity IMO. Also, Simon Belmont was a whiny coward in Captain N (something he very much is *not* in Castlevania games, but I digress), but he was also a hopeless narcissist, which Secret Collect isn't. Ramble. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It seems more than just Captain N. There were also shows like the &amp;quot;Super Mario Bros. Super Show,&amp;quot; The Legend of Zelda TV Series, and the Megaman TV Series... two of the three can be found nowadays in the form of something completely mixed up on Youtube. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 01:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Honestly, I'm not sure where so many people are getting these mixed references to every single video game-based cartoon ever out of the five-second Secret Collect cartoon clip. Unless there's something horribly wrong with my computer, and the SBEMail is skipping over a five-minute segment making fun of those cartoons, all I'm seeing is a teen, a dog, and a talking red cube. And a stereotypical '70s-'80s cartoon villain. As someone who once watched those old cartoons religiously, I just can't see any connection whatsoever to Zelda, Super Mario, Sonic, Megaman, or any other of the myriad of video game-based cartoons and anime; those were, despite being cheesy, at least based on games with actual characters and plotlines. And it's *especially* nothing like Captain N, which was basically a collective of random characters in random settings. I mean, jeez, the three main villains were from Metroid, Punch Out, and Kid Icarus! The Secret Collect cartoon is, if anything, a jab at Saturday Supercade, which made cartoons out of those simple one-screen arcade games with no actual characterization, such as Pac-Man (which, yes, I know, was its own cartoon), Frogger, Q*Bert, and Donkey Kong. (DK wasn't *always* the bowtie-wearing banana-loving hipster he is today, kiddies.) If the cartoon featured, say, Secret Collect, Duck Guardian, Kid Speedy, Thy Dungeonman, and the guy from Where's An Egg?, along with the human kid, then yes, it'd be an obvious Captain N parody. But it doesn't. So it ain't. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bob and George? ==<br /> <br /> Been a while since I had posted here. Anyway, when SB was listed out &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves.&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt; The first thing that came to mind when he mentioned &amp;quot;video games&amp;quot; (and later said &amp;quot;just steal some graphics from your favorite video game&amp;quot;) was the Web Comic [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/ Bob and George], further enforced with the Stinkoman comic bit where the majority of Stinkoman sprites were based off of Megaman... Heck, I too am guilty of the use of videogame graphics for my own web-comic... which I'm currently slacking on. Also, I'd like to point out the MS Paint comment SB mentioned. Many new comers to the sprite/pixel comic landfill often use MS Paint as their very first program, and use it very badly. As far as the Elves part goes, I'm unsure. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 04:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Unlike Penny Arcade, which has a form that is discernably lampooned, Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater et. al. don't really have any hallmarks that would make them stand out from other sprite comics. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, unless you count Bob and George being the '''first''' significant sprite comic. There's a reputation for really bad comic writers to base their works on Bob and George as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> I believe it's lampooning ALL sprite comics. I also think 8-Bit Theater is more well known, if we have to point out one. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 20:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I agree; it's just about all sprite comics. We don't need to point out one specifically. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Explanations ==<br /> <br /> I think GamerJox is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Ctrl+Alt+Del |Ctrl+Alt+Del]]. Strong Sad strongly resembles Lucas. And those web comics with the sprites could be referenced to [[Wikipedia:8-Bit Theater |8-Bit Theater]].<br /> *Strong Bad's pompadour, yelling pose and yellow shirt are pretty reminiscent of Gabriel. Contrariwise, I don't see anything in Strong Sad resembling Lucas other than he's fat. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> *No, I don't think so. Lucas wears a white shirt, and has hair more like Strong Bad's. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> **By the way, heading off at the pass further discussion of 8-Bit Theater: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of when Strong Bad began talking about it, but as he went on to describe such crappy examples, I think he's really just referencing the dozens upon thousands of amateur attempts using the same method. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should &quot;Burn&quot; and &quot;Dodge&quot; be added to the Photoshop explanations section or are they self explanatory? {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Spamusement==<br /> <br /> Is the Spam-based comic a reference to [http://www.spamusement.com/ | Spamusement]? I don't know of any other webcomic that does this. I'm not saying there aren't, I'm just saying I don't know about them if there are. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Seconded -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :STUFF'd. Vote there. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::STUFF should be only be used when there's no consensus on the talk page. Here's the fact that was removed (edited a bit):<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> The Cheat's web comic, based on spam mailers' names, is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Spamusement!|Spamusement!]]'', a real-life comic made from spam email subject lines.<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> ::This seems to be a legitimate reference to me; the gimmicks behind the comics are almost identical, and I doubt that there are any other real-life web comics that are similar. Anybody agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::I think it's probably a reference, unless someone can demonstrate that it's [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The following comments/arguments were moved here from the STUFF page &amp;mdash; hopefully, we can find consensus on this fact here without the need for the STUFF process. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> :''Argument For from [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]]:'' Both The Cheat's comic and Spamusement! reference spam, and have bad art.<br /> <br /> :''Comment from [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]]:'' It was kind of annoying how people kept deleting and re-adding this before this section in STUFF was added, especially when they gave it as their reason for removing it. Not that it has much to do with the current argument; I'm just saying.-[[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 23:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''Argument Against from [[User:Ten Ten|Ten Ten]]:'' Claiming it as a reference to one specific source is ambiguous: there are multiple groups that spend time making fun of spam messages.<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> ::While there are many groups devoted to making fun of spam, crappy drawings based on spam subject lines are pretty much Spamusement!'s trademark, methinks. [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]] 00:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::&lt;s&gt;I can't really see that TBC were specifically referencing Spamusement. The concept doesn't exactly match Spamusement; The Cheat draws things based on the senders' names, Spamusement draws things based on the subject line. Besides that, The Cheat's screen looks nothing like the POOR web design of Spamusement. Also, looking at several of Spamusement's drawings, they all seem to be black and white, whereas The Cheat's are full color. And The Cheat's style matches all PBTC artistry, so you can't really take drawing style into account. I have to admit, though, that a Google search did not seem to produce anything that compares to Spamusement. I didn't try very hard, though. And I'm not on the fence about it. I would vote to reject this being listed as a real world reference. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;/s&gt;<br /> <br /> ::::Perhaps you're not familiar with how a 'reference' works. What would they have to do for it to be a reference to Spamusement? Have the cheat make comics based on spam subject lines in black and white, matching that guy's style and his style of web design? HILARIOUS. Direct copying of someone else? thats comedic gold. No place for creativity here folks. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Fine, I take it back. I didn't enjoy this email as it is; just not my kind of humor this time. A rare miss by TBC, IMO. ''(from [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]'s edit summary when removing the above comment)'' 04:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Kirby ==<br /> <br /> The stupid paint thing that is drawn on the Stinkoman comic looks a little like Kirby in a messed up way.<br /> <br /> Pardon me, but I don't think I see the resemblance. Other than a round pink shape and having a face. But other than that, you really have to stretch it to see the resemblance. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Smurfs ==<br /> <br /> *It's not something I want to put on the page without discussing it (unlike Penny Arcade where I'm pretty sure), but the evil wizard from the Secret Collect cartoon reminds me of Gargamel. He wears a crappy looking cloak, is balding, has rotten teeth, and the shot of his castle is reminiscent of all the interior shots in Gargamel's castle. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I agree entirely, although he also reminds me of &lt;strike&gt;Mitch Overlord&lt;/strike&gt; Bozar. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 19:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I dunno, I don't want to add this unless I get more notes saying it's not a stretch. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Mitch Overlord? Are you sure you don't mean [[Bozar]]? -invisible_map<br /> <br /> == Spam senders ==<br /> <br /> Some of those names, besides Hooray4Dolphins I reckon could be from some other wellknown characters.<br /> <br /> Public D. Themackinest - Pompon, The Mack<br /> Lowpoint K. Festivals - Strong Sad, being at a constant lowpoint<br /> <br /> There may be others that I have not been able to decifer. I know that it might be a reach, and in any way a weak case, but I just throught that I would throw it out there. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 15:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : It's an interesting theory, but it strikes me as speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Signature blocks ==<br /> <br /> I added the following fact as a real world reference:<br /> :The characters in GamerJox monotonously reciting computer specifications at the end of their comic is a reference to the inclusion of such information in [[Wikipedia:Signature block|signature blocks]] of posts in [[Wikipedia:Internet forum|internet forums]] by computer technology enthusiasts.<br /> And it was removed with this explanation:<br /> :Why would he be referencing signature blocks/internet forums in an email about web comics?? And being &quot;similar to&quot; is not enough to be a real world reference.)<br /> The random spouting off computer specs really deserves an explanation, and I'm convinced that this is it. Why else would he possibly have done it? To answer the question the deleter asks, I would imagine Strong Bad is implying that these characters are the kinds of people who use and see computer specs in internet forum signature blocks so regularly that they automatically use them as a &quot;signoff&quot; even when communicating in person. That does seem odd, but it's a joke, and that's how I interpreted it. Did anyone interpret it some other way? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 18:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Seconded. That makes total sense. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :The reason is that it's a parody of all the unnecessary technogeekery that crop up in these types of comics. It's like if someone were to parody ''Peanuts'' by having Lucy say &quot;Insult of Charlie Brown!&quot; and Linus say &quot;Vaguely related Bible verse!&quot; Or something. There was a parody comic of ''Ozy and Millie'' that went kinda like that, but I can't find it anymore. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 04:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Here's a question though: is this more of a real-world reference or an explanation? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 02:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cast of Characters ==<br /> <br /> How much of the characters in the comics and cartoons and so one should we include in the cast list? Any? All? Note that not everything in the cast has to be linked. Personally, I'm for including everyone we can name/has a speaking part. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Captain N==<br /> <br /> The first Saturday morning cartoon reminds me of Captain N. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Good thing this is different than the other Captain N message about 3 blocks up -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stinkoman Sprite Comics ==<br /> <br /> This is obvious, but the Stinkoman Sprite Comic definitely references Stinkoman Sprite Comics on the Fanstuff Wiki. I've seen MS Painted graphics in these things. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :P.S. This doesn't need to be STUFF'd! {{User:Im a bell/sig}}<br /> <br /> Well, they're not the only sprite comics with MS Painted endings. 8-bit Theater, for one. I believe that the reason the TBC used Stinkoman 20X6 is that his game was the only sprite-styled game cinematic enough for sprite comic use. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :P.S. Doesn't need to be STUFF'd? Why? There seems to be other explanations. We just might need to STUFF it. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Changed my mind. No STUFF. It's spoofing the whole genre of sprite comics. Just don't put it there at all. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It bears mentioning that the genre exists, and in fact 8-Bit Theater is/was one of the first comics to do it (and ''the'' first to become famous for doing so). If we can have a Fun Fact referencing Penny-Arcade &quot;and its many imitators&quot;, then we should be able to have a similar one for 8-Bit Theater and its derivatives. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == ... and elves. ==<br /> <br /> I believe that Strong Bads line, &quot;They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves&quot; makes a reference to 8-bit Theater, at least the part about elves. [[User:12.18.218.230|12.18.218.230]] 01:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, because 8-Bit Theater is the only webcomic ''ever'' to be about elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Elves don't pertain to 8-Bit Theater specifically. But I would argue that the Stinkoman sprite comic ''is'' a more specific reference to 8-Bit Theater - that's the webcomic/animation series that is most commonly &quot;blamed&quot; for starting that particular sub-genre. I believe that's a valid reference. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::If we're going for specifics, the Stinkoman comic is more like Bob and George, another pioneer of the genre - Mega Man sprites and MS Paint'ed non-punchlines are something of a signature for it (although in the latter case, it's never as obnoxious as presented by Strong Bad). [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Why are you guys so quick to delete valid Real-World References? ==<br /> <br /> I'm noticing a trend here, especially in this email, but more generally across the board in recently released toons and emails. This email is full of references to modern Internet culture, yet the established members of this community seem REALLY eager to just delete those references ''without discussion'' and without checking the facts (or showing they have checked the facts) being asserted. For example: My entry for the Stinkoman comic referencing 8-Bit Theater was removed almost immediately after I added it, with an edit summary saying that 8-Bit Theater was the ONLY comic out there that used video-game sprites.<br /> <br /> Now, it's possible that person was being sarcastic (and honestly, guys, that kind of sarcasm doesn't help discussion at all), but the statement itself is patently false. Dozens of sprite-based comics (including many direct knock-offs and parodies) have been spawned mainly due to 8-Bit Theater's existence. G4 even has a syndicated TV show now based on that concept. 8-Bit Theater was one of the first comics using that particular medium to become successful (whether it was actually the very first one to do it is highly debatable, but it's famous for doing it well).<br /> <br /> I just find it really discouraging to see people just deleting perfectly valid information like that without allowing for discussion and consensus. I realize we have STUFF, but it seems like even that vehicle is being sidestepped more and more lately. It's part of the reason I haven't been participating on this wiki as much as I used to - sometimes, this community can come across as downright hostile.<br /> <br /> &amp;lt;/soapbox&amp;gt; {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :STUFF (or at least STUFFing immediately) has been discouraged of late in favor of a talk page discussion. (See below.) As for the attitude of the people here, as long as I can remember we've had established users who are consistently sarcastic (not that there's anything right with that). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's one thing to be sarcastic in a friendly way, but comments like &quot;Like this is the ''only'' place that elves have ''ever'' been referenced!&quot; as a reply to someone asking for discussion is really quite unfriendly, and it seems against the spirit of the community that I joined two years ago. That's why I'm bringing it up now.<br /> <br /> ::As for the STUFF: I reverted your removal of my STUFF item because people have been trying to discuss that particular topic here in at least three separate threads on this Talk page. All of those have been summarily shot down as TTATOT without considering that a reference to the genre might be appropriate. I figured we'd make more headway in a single, organized discussion - that was what STUFF was originally designed for, was it not? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Our approach to STUFF has undergone some changes, and for reasons I think are quite good. More discussion and less voting is a good thing. I think it's appropriate to use a straight vote as a last resort, so STUFF does still have a purpose here, but I think it's good that we've reduced its use as we have. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Okay. I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't turn into the problematic Talk-vote process that existed before STUFF came into use in the first place. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm the one who reverted that fact, yes I *was* being sarcastic, and if you'll notice in the edit summary, references to sprite comics have been removed repeatedly. I didn't mean any particular offense or anything, so I apologize if I came across as rude. It's just, there are so many sprite-based webcomics out there that it's really impossible to say that the Stinkocomic is a direct reference to any one in particular. (Heck, *I* once attempted a sprite comic, using Chrono Trigger graphics; it got nowhere, but nevertheless.) The only way such a fact is truly &quot;valid&quot; is if we take the route of the &quot;Jeeves&quot; fact, noting more about its origin and the trend, rather than saying it's an out and out reference to one comic that TBC may or may not have heard of. -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :What exactly is a reference? The problem is that people seem to be having trouble distinguishing between references and coincidences, with some users overzealously adding real-world references based on slight similarities, and other equally zealous users deleting real-world references that are anything less than completely obvious. And then there are people to represent every spot in between. The problem is that &quot;reference&quot; isn't clearly defined as it pertains to the wiki, so people just use their own personal definition, and don't realize that other people's definitions may be different. I'm trying to start discussion on the issue over at [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#Standards_for_Real-World_References]], hoping that people will realize why people seem to disagree so much on RWRs, and maybe find some common ground.--[[User:Laser-Grilled Crab &amp; Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;amp;CS]] 23:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm not apologizing for my &quot;elves&quot; quip. It ''is'' patently ridiculous to think that 8-Bit Theater was the first webcomic to ever reference elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Saturday Morning Cartoon Collect! ==<br /> :''The Secret Collect Saturday morning cartoon is a reference to various cartoons produced in the 1980s that were based on video games. Most of these cartoons introduced new characters and deviated significantly from the plots or spirit of the games they were based on.''<br /> <br /> This was another STUFF that was not brought to the talk page first. In the interest of encouraging discussion, I am moving it here so we can talk about it and hopefully not have to resort to a vote. There were two arguments for its inclusion:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> #The point of this FF is not to reference specific cartoons, but rather the entire genre of video-game licensed cartoons, most of which deviated significantly from the plot or spirit of the games they were based on.<br /> #This isn't really &quot;explaining the joke&quot;, since newer viewers unfamiliar with those old cartoons are unlikely to understand why the joke is funny.<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> There were also several comments:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> *Variants of the proposed fact also reference ''Legend of Zelda'' and ''Captain N''. In the first revision of this FF, I used ''Pac-Man'' as a notable example because it enjoyed widespread popularity, mainly due to the game's own popularity in North America.<br /> *Without referencing any/all specific video game cartoons, this may be more appropriate as a &quot;Remark&quot; rather than a &quot;Real World Reference&quot;.<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> Both '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' and '''[[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]''' indicated that they supported keeping the fact and were responsible for the above arguments and comments. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;s&gt;With all due respect, why do we still have a STUFF process if we're not going to use it? (Expanding on this) My understanding was that STUFF came about because the previous process, discussing Fun Facts on Talk pages, was cumbersome, difficult to manage, and people weren't taking it seriously. I'd really like to see us avoid falling back into that. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;/s&gt; Nevermind - I'm a bit grouchy at the moment and shouldn't be taking it out on everyone here. Move along. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::OK, now my opinion. If the fact is worded so that it refers to the genre, rather than trying to make a claim to it referring to a specific show, it's probably good. Some people may not know this (especially readers born after the 80s), so it may be worth noting it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I have no problem with the fact if it's phrased in the way Heimstern suggests. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Problem Is... ==<br /> <br /> There are too many gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs (and elves?) editing this Wiki. And everyone fighting for their favorites, it seems. Thus the constant adding, removing and changing of so-called references. Are they references? I don't care anymore. And I don't see any end to it. Months from now, new people will come across the Wiki and go, &quot;Hey, how did everyone miss this? This is a reference to cartoons like Pac-Man and Captain N and Zelda and Super Mario Bros and Sonic and Mega Man and Saturday Supercade.&quot; And that'll get reverted. Then someone'll see that and add back just the portions of the post ''they'' agreed with, and that'll get reverted, etc., and we'll all have a jolly time sorting through the mess. Yee haw. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Well, to be fair, I think we can be a bit more optimistic than that. I hope I'm not foolish for thinking so. ;-) Anyway, though, I do think this will let up a bit after the email is less new. It's true that an email like this does lend itself to a lot of attempts to draw references, but even here, I think it will pass. For example, rarely do we get a new reference added to [[virus]], which was the email that inspired the STUFF process because of how many references people added. So, just give it some years, and it probably will fix itself! But in the meantime, it's important that we just have good, productive talk page discussions here to try to come to consensus on what is or isn't a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)</div> Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:18:47 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:web_comics http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Irregular_Loading_Screens <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>In many [[toons]] and [[games]], the '''loading screen''' has something on other than the standard &quot;Loading...&quot;. Many of these have some relevance to the toon/game they appear in.<br /> <br /> ==List==<br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=3 style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse&quot;<br /> |- bgcolor=#eeeeee<br /> ! Toon/Game !! Loading Screen !! Relevance to toon/game !! Picture<br /> |-<br /> | [[Stinkoman Sunday Fun Talk]] || FIND THE LOADBEARER... || None || [[Image:Loadbear.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[50K Racewalker]] || loada... || None || [[Image:Loada.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Experimental Film]] || comin' up || None || [[Image:Comin' up.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Hallrunner]] || loadaling || None || [[Image:Loadaling.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Happy Fireworks]] || Loafing... || What Coach Z and Bubs are doing at the start of the toon || [[Image:Loafing.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Homestarloween Party]] || loading the Halloween deal || It's a Halloween toon. || [[Image:Loading the Halloween deal.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] ''[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Strong Bad &quot;Trap Door&quot; Sample|The Email Show]]'' sample || loading free pay sample... || A free sample of the PAY PLUS content. || [[Image:Loading free pay sample.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Kick The Cheat]] || Loadin || None || [[Image:Loadin.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Kid Speedy]] || WIDE LOADING || The main character of the game is a &quot;little fatso&quot;. || [[Image:Wideloading.PNG|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Marshie's Malloween Mix-Up]] || Lourding... || None, but it may refer to the [[Heavy Lourde]] || [[Image:Lourding.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[More Fan Costumes]] || loadems... || None || [[Image:Loadems.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[No Hands On Deck!]] || loadinate || May be a reference to [[Trogdor|Burninate]]. || [[Image:Loadinate-deck.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] || Rather loading... || The main character is [[Rather Dashing]]. || [[Image:Rather Loading.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] Old Version || loading a fairly big deal... || [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] made a big deal of this toon, so much their server crashed by the initial onslaught of viewers || [[Image:Loading a fairly big deal.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], [[Snowglobe]] || VOADING || It's a preview of a [[Videlectrix]] game. || [[Image:Voading.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Seasonal Sweaters]] || LOAD IT! || None || [[Image:Load it.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Stinkoman 20X6]] || LOAD IT UP... || The Game uses [[deliberately poor English]] throughout. || [[Image:Load it up.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Stinkomanual]] || loading manuél || It's an instruction manual, and the spelling displays [[Deliberately Poor English|poor English]]. || [[Image:Loading_manuel.PNG|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Strong Bad's Website]] || LO-DING || None || [[Image:Lo-Ding.PNG|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Superbowl Dealie]] || ''{No loading screen}'' || None || -<br /> |-<br /> | [[The Cheatar]] || Comin' up... || The font is reminiscent of the logo of the heavy metal band [[Wikipedia:Iron Maiden (band)|Iron Maiden]]. || [[Image:Comin' up (Cheatar).png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]] || Legging... || The toon is about [[eggs]]. || [[Image:Legging.PNG|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Ever and More!]] || loading, friend. || This is likely a reference to the fact that the toon parodies various Brotherhoods and Fraternities. The loading screen seems to be a parody of fraternal greetings. ||[[Image:loadingfriend.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | [[Main Page 24]] || ''{No loading screen}'' || None || -<br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Lists]]<br /> [[Category:Word running gags]]</div> Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:32:01 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Irregular_Loading_Screens http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File:Loadbear.png <p>Soapergem:&#32;&quot;FIND THE LOADBEARER&quot; loading screen for Stinkoman Sunday Fun Talk.</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> &quot;FIND THE LOADBEARER&quot; loading screen for [[Stinkoman Sunday Fun Talk]].<br /> == Licensing ==<br /> {{game-screenshot}}</div> Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:30:25 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File_talk:Loadbear.png http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Make-O_Your_Own_Stinko <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Stinkocomic.png|300px|thumb|In this comic, Stinkoman is looking for a challenge!]]<br /> <br /> '''Stinkoman Sunday Fun Talk''' (alternately '''Make-O Your Own Stinko''') is a hidden Easter egg found in [[web comics]]. You can create your own Stinkoman 20X6 themed comic just like [[Strong Bad]], by selecting from numerous characters, objects, and backgrounds from the [[Stinkoman 20X6|game of the same name]] in up to four panels. Each sprite can be resized, rotated, and flipped, and you can add any text you want into the talk bubbles. When you're all done, there is an option to print it out.<br /> <br /> The backgrounds that can be used are from [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 1|Level 1 (Go Home)]], [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 2|Level 2 (Pick a Bone)]], [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4|Level 4 (Fisticuff)]], [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 5|Level 5 (Oh the Moon)]], [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 6|Level 6 (Stratosfear)]], [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 7|Level 7 (Ice 2 Meet U)]], and [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 9|Level 9 (Turbolence)]] respectively.<br /> <br /> == Characters &amp; Enemies Included ==<br /> [[Image:Makeownstinko.png|500px|thumb|The Make-O Your Own Stinko Interface.]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman]]<br /> * [[1-Up]]<br /> * [[Pan Pan]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Astromund]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Browntant]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Pink Cham Cham]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Chorch]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Frotzer]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Fullbide]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Gokul]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Greggo]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Grundy]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Jaro]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|My Benj]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Poorbt]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Pooru-Pooru]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Stafulter]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Stobat]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Stothos]]<br /> * [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|Tortan]]<br /> <br /> == Fun Facts ==<br /> * This is the first time Pan Pan is seen as an in-game sprite.<br /> <br /> == Inside References ==<br /> * The loading screen reads &quot;Find The Loadbearer,&quot; a reference to [[slumber party]].<br /> <br /> == External Links == <br /> *[[HR:stinko comic.html|View Make-O Your Own Stinko]]<br /> *[[HR:stinko comic.swf|View the Flash file for Make-O Your Own Stinko]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Games]]<br /> [[Category:Stinkoman 20X6]]<br /> [[Category:Comic strips]]</div> Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:25:46 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Make-O_Your_Own_Stinko http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:web_comics <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>==Penny Arcade==<br /> <br /> Doesn't anyone think that that Game Pox comic looks like Penny Arcade?[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :What, the first comic? With the brick? That's the first thing that came to MY mind, and I've never even read Penny Arcade. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Already in Real-World References. And yes, yes it does. It's a reference, no doubt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :While Strong Bad is pretty clearly modelled after Gabriel, I don't know who the Strong Sad character is supposed to be. But the speech balloons and fonts look similar, also. I think the reference should be put back. (I think it was removed earlier.) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Strong Bad's point is that there are a million comics like this. We can't assume that he's making a reference to one specific comic. And as far as being modeled after Gabriel or whoever, I disagree. And besides.. again.. lots of comics are alike. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::STUFF'd. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> If not PA, its most likely CAD<br /> <br /> [[User:69.125.174.75|69.125.174.75]]<br /> Poster of that fun fact<br /> <br /> :I don't think so. There's nothing that reminds me of CAD in &quot;Game Pox&quot;. If anything, Strong Sad is reminiscent of PvP a ''little'' bit, but not enough for me to call it a reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> That is definitely a PA reference. If you say otherwise, well, you're wrong, and you're just going to have to deal with that. And that's my objective opinion on the matter. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Captain N parody? ==<br /> <br /> Part of this email clearly seems to be sending up Captain N the Game Master. A series which featured a human in the video game world, and the game worlds, story plots and characters often bore little or no resemblance to their game counterparts. For example the Secret Collect character is a whiney coward not unlike Simon Belmont's portrayal in Captain N. The in-jokes may even go further than I recognise.<br /> <br /> == Bob and George? ==<br /> <br /> Been a while since I had posted here. Anyway, when SB was listed out &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves.&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt; The first thing that came to mind when he mentioned &amp;quot;video games&amp;quot; (and later said &amp;quot;just steal some graphics from your favorite video game&amp;quot;) was the Web Comic [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/ Bob and George], further enforced with the Stinkoman comic bit where the majority of Stinkoman sprites were based off of Megaman... Heck, I too am guilty of the use of videogame graphics for my own web-comic... which I'm currently slacking on. Also, I'd like to point out the MS Paint comment SB mentioned. Many new comers to the sprite/pixel comic landfill often use MS Paint as their very first program, and use it very badly. As far as the Elves part goes, I'm unsure. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 04:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> *Unlike Penny Arcade, which has a form that is discernably lampooned, Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater et. al. don't really have any hallmarks that would make them stand out from other sprite comics. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Explanations ==<br /> <br /> I think GamerJox is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Ctrl+Alt+Del |Ctrl+Alt+Del]]. Strong Sad strongly resembles Lucas. And those web comics with the sprites could be referenced to [[Wikipedia:8-Bit Theater |8-Bit Theater]].<br /> *Strong Bad's pompadour, yelling pose and yellow shirt are pretty reminiscent of Gabriel. Contrariwise, I don't see anything in Strong Sad resembling Lucas other than he's fat. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)</div> Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:21:02 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:web_comics http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''22 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] and [[Wikipedia:Computer science|Computer Science]]. I also used to be a music minor as well as an education major.<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b75cl4-qRE The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:42:30 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''22 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b75cl4-qRE The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:41:24 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''22 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:45:50 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/from_work <p>Soapergem:&#32;word choice</p> <hr /> <div>{{sbenav|169}}<br /> [[Image:from work.png|thumb|&quot;Hey! How come your imagination's working?&quot;]]<br /> <br /> Strong Bad answers an email from work.<br /> <br /> '''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}<br /> <br /> '''Places:''' [[The Office]]<br /> <br /> '''Computer:''' [[Corpy NT6]]<br /> <br /> '''Date:''' April 9, 2007<br /> <br /> '''Running Time:''' 3:34<br /> <br /> '''Page Title:''' Corpy NT6!<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> ''{Close-up of the lower half of Strong Bad's face. He holds his hand over his mouth.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Shhh! Shut up, you guys! I'm checkin' email from work today, and I can't let The Man know what I'm up to!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Strong Bad typing on a computer with a grey monitor that reads &quot;Corpy NT6&quot;}'' <br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, tiptoe your fingers 'cross the keyboard for the quietest email you can check.<br /> <br /> ''{A buzzer is heard. An error message with a picture of a hand blocking a basketball appears with the text &quot;BLOCKED! Back to work, drone!&quot; The box shakes when the buzzer plays.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, man. They got everything blocked now. Even those awesome pop-up insurance ads with the cool mini-games in 'em. I tasered that gnome like ten times! ''{stops typing}'' Good thing The Cheat hooked me up with this Cheatware!<br /> <br /> ''{Strong Bad holds up a yellow 3.5&quot; diskette with black spots; the label reads &quot;Cheatware ver. 2.1&quot; and has an ASCII-like[[#Remarks|*]] drawing of The Cheat. He puts it in the computer. The computer makes a whirring sound and the text &quot;Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder&quot; appears on the screen with a picture of an old woman and a brick wall. Music plays. The screen changes to an animation of the old woman pole vaulting over the wall into an envelope. The words &quot;Running...&quot; appears at the top and changes to &quot;Done and done.&quot; as the animation finishes. A progress bar at the bottom progresses from yellow to red.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, nice work, pixel-Granny! Undermine those corporate oppressors on witcha bad self! ''{brings up email}''<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote class=&quot;corpy email&quot; style=&quot;border:#ddd;border-bottom:#ccc;&quot;&gt;<br /> Dear Strong Bad,&lt;br&gt;<br /> If you could have any job in the whole&lt;br&gt;<br /> world, regardless of how much it pays, what&lt;br&gt;<br /> would you have?&lt;br&gt;<br /> From The Nitwon<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;border:none;background:#08089c&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> ''{Strong Bad reads &quot;The Nitwon&quot; as &quot;The Nittle One&quot;}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You ask like I haven't told you guys a million times... ''{drumroll sounds; Strong Bad clears screen}'' I'd be a 2nd 2nd Assistant Space Whale Scrubber! ''{&quot;tada&quot; sound effect; the words &quot;Space Whale Scrubber&quot; flash in many colors}'' Cause &lt;!--sic--&gt; those are the ones that get to wear that glittery pantsuit and use a lazormop to scrub all the nudules and crudules off the whale's dorsal ridge! ''{Crickets chirp. Strong Bad looks around.}'' Umm, shouldn't we be seeing some of this by now?<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' ''{offscreen, imitating buzzer noise}'' Baghh!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to view of Bubs standing behind Strong Bad, who is facing him}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' Sorry, Strong Bad! The suits had me install a firewall on your imagination! All that free thinking was wasting the company's cost money!<br /> <br /> ''{Close up of Strong Bad's face}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's it! I am totally never gonna quit this job but start complaining about it a little bit more! ''{he thumps the desk with his fist four times}''<br /> <br /> ''{Back to view of Strong Bad and Bubs}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' Well, I'd better get back to taserin' that gnome! Err, I mean, ''{Bubs starts walking offscreen}'' upgrading the... taser in that gnome... server!<br /> <br /> ''{Return to view of Strong Bad in front of the Corpy}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I guess I could try and describe it using work approved methods. Let's see: ''{clears screen, brings up a blank graph. Continues typing, the words appear in red above the graph}'' Why 2nd 2nd Assistant Space-Whale Scrubber is My Dream Job. ''{an image of a space-whale appears in the background}'' Twenty percent pantsuit, ''{a green bar comes up from the bottom of the graph with &quot;20%&quot; written on it and &quot;pantsuit&quot; written under it}'' seventeen percent space-whale proximity... ''{a shorter purple bar comes up with &quot;17%&quot; written on it and &quot;space-whale proximity&quot; written under it}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey, cube neighbor!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Strong Sad looking at Strong Bad over the side of his cubicle}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' My work staysh is asking me if I want to log off or log out. Which one do I choose?<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Pffft! Stupid temp. You don't know the difference between logging off and logging out?<br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' Well, no. Back when I was in charge of the ''{starts drumming his fingers}'' schwa sound at dictionary.com they used to...<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Look, just hold down escape, control, tab, alt, both shifts, num lock and the little squiggly until your screen turns blue. Then, stare at it until your shift ends. <br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, thanks! <br /> <br /> ''{Strong Sad goes back down into his own cubicle. Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the Corpy.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Okay. Back to the, back to the sbemail. Let's talk about dorsal ridges!<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You wanna know what&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Homestar Runner behind Strong Bad}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' &amp;mdash;''my'' dream job would be?<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' No. I mean, no. I mean, no.<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'd be the guy&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to a shot of blue sky with clouds}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' &amp;mdash;that flies around ''{Homestar Runner falls onto and starts riding a large flying goldfish}'' on that big plastic goldfish, ''{an oversized toothbrush appears next to Homestar, who uses it to paint clouds in the sky}'' painting the clouds with an oversized novelty toothbrush!<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! How come your imagination's working?<br /> <br /> ''{Homestar stops painting clouds. Cut back to Homestar Runner and Strong Bad}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I got admin privileges! It helps when you're best friends with the Big Cheese!<br /> <br /> ''{Zoom out; An annoyed Pom Pom is behind Homestar with sunglasses above his eyes and carrying a bicycle with the text &quot;[...]IG CHEESE&quot;}''<br /> <br /> '''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Agh! ''{jumps, turns around}'' The Big Cheese!<br /> <br /> '''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{bends over with a downtrodden look}'' Yes, sir. Sorry, sir. Right away, sir. Hallelujah, sir. ''{Pom Pom begins to bounce away, with Homestar shuffling behind him}'' I'll have that DNA evidence on your desk by five.<br /> <br /> ''{Back to Strong Bad in front of the Corpy}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Nevermind, Nitwit. Checking sbemails at the office is not worth the trouble. I dunno how all those bloggers do it. Oh well. I guess I'd better get back to woik. <br /> <br /> ''{Screen clears; a message appears saying &quot;Would you like to:&quot;; there are two buttons, one that says &quot;Log off&quot;, one that says &quot;Log out&quot;}''.<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbles, typing noises}'' 'Scape... tab... squiggly... ''{with each type, a word appears onscreen: &quot;esc.ctrl.tab.alt.shift.shift.numlock.~.&lt;&quot;}''<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote class=&quot;email&quot; style=&quot;background:#455FD8; border-color:#E2E2E2; text-align:center&quot;&gt;<br /> {| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;border:1px solid white; color:white; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background:#FFFFFF;color:#455FD8&quot; | &amp;nbsp;TEMP LOG OFF/OUT ERROR&amp;nbsp;<br /> |-<br /> | &lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center; border:none; background:none&quot;&gt;Oh you are SOOOO not&lt;br/&gt;gonna work here again!&lt;/div&gt;<br /> |}<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> ''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about 7 seconds, Strong Bad continues:}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, gonna be a long one. I haven't even taken my first sit-in-the-men's-room-and-play-''Tetris''-for-an-hour break yet.<br /> <br /> ==Easter Eggs==<br /> [[Image:Taser gnome.PNG|thumb|Low rates and percent signs]]<br /> *Click on the comic strip on the wall of Strong Bad's cubicle when Strong Sad appears to see a [[Dullard]] comic.<br /> *Click on &quot;work&quot; at the end of the email after Strong Bad's comment in order to play &quot;[[Taser the Gnome Game|Taser the Gnome For Low Rates]]&quot;.<br /> <br /> ==Fun Facts==<br /> ===Explanations===<br /> [[Image:Get_Back_To_Work!.png|thumb|Back to work, drone!]]<br /> *&quot;The Man&quot; is a negative description for authority figures.<br /> *A [[Wikipedia:Firewall|firewall]] is a computer system designed to protect one or more computers from unwanted connections, and can be configured to restrict the same computers from accessing certain external resources. However, it is occasionally used (incorrectly) to refer to a [[Wikipedia:Proxy server|proxy server]], often used at workplaces and schools to restrict access to non-work related websites, which appears to be the system used in Strong Bad's workplace.<br /> *Cheatware is an example of a proxy or [[Wikipedia:anonymizer|anonymizer]], which can be used to bypass firewalls or restrictions placed by the administrators of the network.<br /> *A [[Wikipedia:Temporary work|temp]] is a short-term (or temporary) worker.<br /> *A [[Wikipedia:Blog|blog]], or &quot;weblog&quot;, is a journal-like user generated website.<br /> *A [[Wikipedia:Schwa|schwa]] is an unstressed, neutral vowel sound, represented by an ə (an upside down e).<br /> *The squiggly (~) is known as the [[Wikipedia:Tilde|tilde]].<br /> *The [http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/whales/glossary/indexd.shtml dorsal ridge] is a raised line or hump on the back of some [[Sea Creatures#Whales|whales]] (in place of a dorsal fin).<br /> *A [[Wikipedia:Electroshock_weapon#TASER|taser]] is a non-lethal weapon used for subduing a person by administering an electric shock.<br /> *Admin is short for Administrator.<br /> <br /> ===Trivia===<br /> *The [[hr:menuswfs/menu_sbemail169.swf|Preview]] on the [[TV Time Toons Menu]] is a scene not from the Email where the screen of the Corpy NT6 is blank except for the cursor, and Strong Bad is not present.<br /> *Despite making multiple appearances since July 2006, this is the first time in six months Pom Pom broke free of the standby role he held in 'toons such as [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[unnatural]], and [[your funeral]].<br /> <br /> ===Remarks===<br /> *The sound made by the computer when the [[Edgar#Grandmaw Edgar|Cheatware]] disk is put in is the noise made by many old 5.25&quot; floppy drives. However, the Cheatware disk is a 3.5&quot; floppy disk.<br /> *The tune to the opening email song that this email has is similar to that of [[trading cards]].<br /> *Several fluorescent lights can be seen in the Corpy's reflection. This can be seen most prominently in the &quot;Loading...&quot; screen.<br /> *The ASCII-like image of The Cheat is not possible to make with ASCII. Parenthesis are used sideways, and the characters do not align correctly with a fixed width font.<br /> *Though most Edgarware programs are used as security devices, &quot;Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder&quot; is the first designed to circumvent security devices.<br /> *Although Strong Bad seems to be concerned with the volume level at the beginning of the email, he seems to disregard any semblance of noise control for the rest of the email, especially when he yells at Bubs.<br /> *Although Homestar's dream job involves painting white clouds, in [[dreamail]] he says that he hates them.<br /> *The image of the Dullard comic on Strong Bad's wall before it is clicked is the same image used in the email [[dullard]]. This can be seen in the fact that the comic resembles a rough sketch of the first Dullard comic, with characters handing each other a piece of paper and the dog-like character in the last panel.<br /> **This same image was used in [[4 branches]].<br /> *According to dictionary.com, there is no difference between &quot;[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/log%20off log off]&quot; and &quot;log out&quot;.<br /> *In the Gnome Tasering game there are 2 rows of state abbreviations. One row has 24 states and the other has 26 states even though two rows of 25 states could have been used.<br /> *The gnome-tasering game's score system is only meant to hold five digits, and hitting 100,000+ will result in the last digit getting cut off.<br /> *In the gnome-tasering game, the ka-ching sound plays when you click the mouse down on the gnome, and the buzzing noise and score only happen when you let go of the mouse. If you move the mouse off the gnome before letting go (or the gnome moves out from underneath the mouse), the buzzing noise won't play, and you won't get any points.<br /> <br /> ===Goofs===<br /> [[Image:Tazer Gnome 100,000.PNG|thumb|Six digits.]]<br /> *The Dullard comic is not visibly attached to the wall in any way, as the thumbtack does not actually go through the comic.<br /> *The reflections of the lights above Strong Bad's cubicle overlap the reflection of his head, which should not be possible since his head would block any light coming from that direction.<br /> *When Strong Sad goes back to his cubicle, his head disappears prematurely.<br /> <br /> ===Inside References===<br /> <br /> *This is the fifth email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence]].<br /> *Strong Sad previously said &quot;staysh&quot; in [[Missing Lappy]].<br /> *&quot;Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder&quot; is another program in the [[Edgar]] family.<br /> *Using a lazormop to scrub all the nudules and crudules off the space whale's dorsal ridge is another example of [[Lasers]].<br /> *The space whale whale has the same kinds of spots as the [[Europa-pean Lobster|space lobster]] from [[Drive-Thru]].<br /> *One of the items in Bubs's tool belt is a [[Permanent Marker|permanent marker]].<br /> *Bubs spoke of The Man in [[Cool Things]].<br /> *Homestar saying he'll have the DNA evidence on Pom Pom's desk by five is a reference to the first [[Dullard]] comic.<br /> *&quot;Done and done&quot; was last seen in [[radio]].<br /> *&quot;Corpy&quot; is a [[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of &quot;corporate&quot; and &quot;[[Compy 386|Compy]]&quot;.<br /> *The goldfish Homestar rides in his daydream resembles one of the sketches of the [[Drive-Thru Whale]], who may also be related to the &quot;space whales&quot; Strong Bad discusses.<br /> *Strong Bad saying, &quot;No. I mean, no. I mean, no.&quot; is an example of a joke in the form [[X, I mean X, I mean X]].<br /> *In the gnome-tasering game, the object of the game is to get &quot;low rates&quot;. When you taser the gnome, percent signs come out. Low rates and percent signs were mentioned in [[Senor Mortgage]]<br /> <br /> ===Real-World References===<br /> *Products advertised in the Taser the Gnome easter egg are a [[Wikipedia:Xbox|Microsoft Xbox]], a [[Wikipedia:iPod (5G)|Fifth Generation iPod]], and a [[Wikipedia:PlayStation Portable|PlayStation Portable (PSP)]], all common &quot;prizes&quot; for playing the game ads which the Gnome Tasering game is parodying.<br /> *''[[Wikipedia:Tetris|Tetris]]'' is a well-known and often imitated video game created by [[Wikipedia:Alexey Pajitnov|Alexey Pajitnov]], and has been ported to many video game consoles, digital organizers, and cell phones.<br /> *The &quot;Corpy NT6&quot; could be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Windows Vista|Windows Vista]], which is [[Wikipedia:Windows NT#Releases|Windows NT version 6]].<br /> *[[Wikipedia:The Man|The Man]] is a term from the '60s used to describe authority figures. It is often associated with a negative connotation, as '60s movements which used the term tended to resist the influence of individuals who could be considered &quot;The Man.&quot;<br /> *The way Strong Sad peeks over his cubicle wall and says &quot;Hey, cube neighbor!&quot; is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Wilson (Home Improvement)|Wilson]] on the TV sitcom ''[[Wikipedia:Home Improvement|Home Improvement]]''.<br /> *&quot;Insurance games&quot; is a reference to online advertisements from companies, like LowerMyBills.com and FreePay, that feature Flash-based games which lead to the company's website when played.<br /> *The [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning#System Errors|screen turning blue]] is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Blue_Screen_of_Death|Blue Screen of Death]], a [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]] system error screen.<br /> *Strong Bad's log off/log out key sequence is a parody of the key sequence used to unlock Windows NT work stations, [[Wikipedia:Control-Alt-Delete|Ctrl+Alt+Delete]], and of the [[Wikipedia:Novell|Novell]] 'Four Finger Salute' &lt;Left Shift&gt;&lt;Right Shift&gt;&lt;Alt&gt;&lt;Esc&gt;.<br /> *The &quot;gnome server&quot; that Bubs refers to is a Graphical User Interface add-on of the open-source [[Wikipedia:Linux|Linux]] operating system, also called [[Wikipedia:GNOME|Gnome]].<br /> *[http://dictionary.reference.com Dictionary.com] is an online dictionary.<br /> <br /> ===Fast Forward===<br /> *A deleted scene from this email would be featured in the short [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]].<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> {{sbemailextlinks|169|{{{2|11151}}}}}<br /> <br /> {{Strong Bad Email}}<br /> [[Category:Strong Bad Email]]</div> Thu, 03 May 2007 16:13:50 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:from_work http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:25:19 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - 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I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> Also, if you're running Firefox and you have [[Wikibooks:Using_Firefox/Preferences#General_2|autoScroll]] enabled, want to change that bland image from this: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5463/autoscrollvih5.png into this: http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png ?<br /> Again, take a look at my monobook.css file.<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:19:24 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>/* change the logo */<br /> #p-logo a<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> /* change Mozilla autoscroll image */<br /> html &gt; img<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png') !important;<br /> background-position: top left;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> height: 32px !important;<br /> padding-left: 32px !important;<br /> width: 0px !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> /* change the gradient bars */<br /> td.MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #500401;<br /> background-image: url('http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/733/redfade1pn.gif') !important;<br /> background-position: top;<br /> background-repeat: repeat-x;<br /> color: #fff;<br /> }<br /> td.MainPageWhatsNewBox h3<br /> {<br /> color: #fff;<br /> background-color: #012B60;<br /> background-image: url('http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6510/bluefadevg1.gif') !important;<br /> background-position: top;<br /> background-repeat: repeat-x;<br /> }</div> Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:42:14 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;yay for changing autoscroll images</p> <hr /> <div>/* change the logo */<br /> #p-logo a<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> /* change Mozilla autoscroll image */<br /> html &gt; img<br /> {<br /> background-color: transparent;<br /> background-image: url('http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4264/sbscrollpn3.png') !important;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> background-position: top left;<br /> height: 32px !important;<br /> padding-left: 32px !important;<br /> width: 0px !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> /* change the gradient bars */<br /> td.MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #500401;<br /> background-image: url('http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/733/redfade1pn.gif') !important;<br /> background-position: top;<br /> background-repeat: repeat-x;<br /> color: #fff;<br /> }<br /> td.MainPageWhatsNewBox h3<br /> {<br /> color: #fff;<br /> background-color: #012B60;<br /> background-image: url('http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6510/bluefadevg1.gif') !important;<br /> background-position: top;<br /> background-repeat: repeat-x;<br /> }</div> Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:34:41 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>#p-logo a /* change the logo */<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> td.MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #500401;<br /> background-image: url('http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/733/redfade1pn.gif') !important;<br /> background-position: top;<br /> background-repeat: repeat-x;<br /> color: #fff;<br /> }<br /> td.MainPageWhatsNewBox h3<br /> {<br /> color: #fff;<br /> background-color: #012B60;<br /> background-image: url('http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6510/bluefadevg1.gif') !important;<br /> background-position: top;<br /> background-repeat: repeat-x;<br /> }</div> Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:22:13 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1223/editjb6.gif [http://www.gordon-myers.com/ My Personal Website]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirectltr.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:11:02 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Logo_redesign_2006 <p>Soapergem:&#32;whoops...colons are important</p> <hr /> <div>==Proposed logo discussions==<br /> This is the discussion section for [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006|the 2006 logo proposals]]. Please address the logos in the section with the matching heading title. Click on the heading title to view the logo to which it refers. Please keep comments about logos civil and friendly; you can say you don't like a logo without instigating contention.<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]]===<br /> The strengths of this design are its simplicity and its connection with the [[Intro]]. Aside from its slightly older style, one possible weakness is that by featuring only Homestar, it suggests that he is representative of the H*R body of work as a whole, which over time has grown to revolve around other characters equally or more (well, Strong Bad). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :&lt;s&gt;[http://www.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/wikihrlogo_new.png This one] seems to be just the ticket to me, though I'd like it even more if pixel by pixel the only thing that changed was Homestar. Maybe I'm just too used to the current design. I ''do'' still want the character's latest design in there instead of one that's a year or two old though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;/s&gt;<br /> ::It ''is'' the latest design, only drawn differently. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Oh, so it is. Never mind then. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :What makes this one so strong, and what I think we need to keep in mind with whatever we choose is that it is a logo, it is simple recognizable and easily connected to what it represents. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm kinda tired of this one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I don't see what's wrong with our current logo. It still looks good and works well. I'd personally like to keep it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I see nothing wrong with it either, but I also want a change of pace. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am very sorry - I like many of the submissions I see, I mean, they're all really great. But the current one is the best of them all. If we didn't have a logo now, I'd pick the one we have now. '''''BUT''''' in my opinion, one of the other logos that have been suggested for this wiki would be great to replace the one over at the fanstuff wiki!! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Keep the current one, it reinforces the actual website, is simple and uncluttered, and features Homestar himself.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 02:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The current logo is the better than all of the proposed substitutes. Don't fix what ain't broke! --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 06:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It may not be &quot;broken,&quot; but it does need some touching up. Perhaps you would be happy with Current Updated or Kamikaze Full Body? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Almost Everybody|Almost Everybody]]===<br /> Somebody said they wanted more characters in the logo. I think it was Trey. So I put some more in there as silhouettes in the background. I think it's a very professionally done styled logo. I like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Homestar look a bit off. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Petty attempts at flaming someone else for disliking your logo aren't really smiled upon. Honest, tactful opinions only, please. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I like the two side silhouettes but I'd take out whoever is in the middle. Can't see him anyway. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Lapper, to my knowledge Trogga hasn't made any logos, so far only bleedorange and I have {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::He did the Encyclopedia Style logo above.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::1. I didn't criticize his logo just because he didn't like mine, and 2. that ''was'' honest, tactful opinion. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, no, of course not. Let me find that edit summary... ah, here we are. &quot;It's my turn to bash YOUR logo!&quot; Let me know what you think is &quot;honest and tactful&quot;. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::That wasn't meant to be taken seriously... --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::FYI, sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::''(Sarcastically)'' Sure sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]<br /> :::::::That wasn't sarcasm. (OK, I'll stop.) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I actually like this logo, but can't you fix Homestar? Especially his eyes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::There's actually no difference between this Homestar and the others in my other logos, it's the same one. I've been working with the same PSD file all along. The reason it appears like it to you, most likely, is because the image is surrounded by white. Due to the fact that the logo is darker than most the others. If you copy and paste it into a darker bordered surrounding, it wouldn't look that way as much. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about because I didn't change him at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I see. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure about the characters in the background, I understand the desire to include more of &quot;what H*R.com is about,&quot; but I see this as not being inclusive of the universe while leaning towards becoming too busy to be a LOGO for the wiki - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Blury. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Good concept, and looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't mind this logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::It's blurry on purpose, foreground in focus, background out concept. Not my favorite, I personally vote against this one and I made it! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Basement|Basement]]===<br /> For reasons stated [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], I don't really think SB's basement is really the place to put Homestar Runner. It's more his domain than Homestar's. Which is why I think this logo wouldn't work.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :[[:Image:Wiki logo basement 2.png|just a thought]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Nah, I think if any other character is going to be on the logo, then Homestar should too.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The logo will have to have Homestar on it. There's no way around it. He's the guy.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::If this wasn't &quot;named&quot; basement I think it would take less flack, as this is the design on the walls of TBC's office. I mean it is much of what a logo should be, simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and well connected to what it represents. The patern of this wall is very well recognized as something conected to H*R.com while at the same time showing that this is a seperate entitity from anything TBC created - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Black Background|Black Background]]===<br /> :I like this one head and shoulders above the others, it has a professional look that an encyclopedia should have, and I really like the logo in the background which I feel better represents the H*R universe than any forced inclusion of other characters. Again like &quot;basement&quot; it is simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and easily connected to what it represents - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 18:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't think the black background would go well with this white and colorful website. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]===<br /> <br /> :I kind of enjoy this. Not to much of a change, like the Full Body one. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like this one a lot too, except I think the word &quot;WIKI&quot; should be flattened a bit so that the &quot;W&quot; doesn't look so, pointy. That or maybe a new font entirely (altho this one works well).--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, awexome, though the font could change. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I like this one the best! &amp;mdash; {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:17, 18 November 2006<br /> :::::I like this one, but I think it would be cool if this was combined with the full bodied one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 05:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::DING! You win! I'm glad to see an update of the current logo that's not so bright it actually kind of hurts my eyes in a sitting too close to the TV with the lights off kind of way. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)'''EDIT:''' Though the font still ought to be Bauhaus. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::This, along with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]], is one of my two favorites. I do think that Homestar's mouth should be closed though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I still think this is the way to go. It stays close to the logo that's worked well for us for quite some time while making it look less old-fashioned. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I like this new logo, it stays true to what has worked, plus it's more modernized, evolving along with the characters. Anyway, I think this is the way to (lo)go. --EdgeMaster025<br /> ::::::::::This one stays more true to the original, but is still unique in it's own way. Very well done, so I would say yes to this one.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 06:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Edit Link|Edit Link]]=== <br /> - This idea is supposed to encapsulate some of the idea behind the wiki: a transition between [[The Field]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg the wiki background] (I wanted it to be a smooth, blended transition from the colored field to the washed out grayscale background, but I don't have the tools) and the [&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;edit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;] link you see on wiki section headings. Needs some cleanup though, if it's going to be usable. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Until I read this, I thought that Homestar was standing in a spot right next to [[The King of Town's Castle]] (grass to stone). It just looked like that to me upon first glance, and I wouldn't have given it a second thought if I didn't read this. I think the sudden change is a bit disorientating. If you blended it, however, it might be a smoother logo. Pardon the pun. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::This is definitely the best concept I've seen yet, no doubt. It symbolizes the wiki greatly, but somehow I can't see this becoming a recognizable logo. Maybe it's just the sudden change that strikes me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's a neat idea, but people wouldn't probably get it when they came here for the first time. They'd wonder why Homestar is next to the KOT's castle with Edit written no the wall. lol. I still like the concept, but I can't think of a good way to do it in a small image and it still be a good logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Could you create a mock-up of how this would look if actually applied to the main page? Because I have some slight doubts that it would produce the desired effect. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I can't see this working at all, I understand the idea and it's good as an idea, but as a logo it doesn't seem to fit. Nor does it give recognizeable branding to the site. Very low on my list - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Encyclopedia|Encyclopedia]]===<br /> A bit plain, but symbolizes the idea of a H*R encyclopedia/wiki. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I definitely don't like this idea at all. Text as a logo?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I was going to add Homestar, but MS Paint wouldn't let me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I, also, disagree with the use of this logo. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I still kinda like logo, mainly for text I've chosen. Feel free to improve the idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I don't think anyone would get that it was supposed to be an encyclopedia. They would just see text and go, &quot;what's that supposed to be.&quot; Logos are generally visual. I don't like it because I can't think of a way that this would be appealing.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I was tryin' make a logo like [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page Wiktionary]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I get that one because it uses a pronunciation key (or whatever you call it)... and varying font sizes, etc. Yours just looks like a paragraph from a book. But either way, even if it looked better I don't like the idea. Personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I think the Wiktionary logo is pretty bland. Not what I would have chosen for something as exciting as the HRWiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Hang on. This might be cool in the background behind Homestar... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Even with Homestar, I think it's going to be too busy and not representitive enough to be a logo, but I'm willing to wait and see - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I agree. As a logo alone, it's quite bland, and as a background, it would be distracting. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Text woldn't work. 1.) It's boring. 2.) It wouldn't look right on this backround 3.) it makes no sense. Why couldn't you just put words as the logo. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Having the words as the background isn't such a bad idea. It might be a little distracting, but it might not be as distracting if the words are in faint print. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It would look bad also because Homestar is white and the background is white... a &quot;wash out effect&quot; would happen. It's not a very interesting idea, IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't like this logo at all it would look like part of the page not a logo for the page.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I never really intended this logo to be a real logo; I just wanted to present my idea for a logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Everybody Everybody|Everybody, Everybody]]=== <br /> I made this one fairly quickly, it could use some better-looking text. Ideas, comments? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Very good! WAy better than I could do. So... cool. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It has potential. But like you said, look for some better text. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Seems a little bright to me, might not match with the current background. But as Lapper said, it does have potential. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I really am quite against featuring EVERY major character on the logo. I just think it makes it cluttered plus it's hard to do in a 150x150 spaced area and still look good. They're SO TINY on that image that you can barely see them. To bring them closer where you CAN see them makes it that much harder to put them ALL in there. Do you see where I'm going with this? Homestar by himself or with say the second leading character (Strong Bad) is about as much into this kind of idea of multiple characters as I think we need to get. Because really, it's not like people visiting here are going to not know there are more characters. TBC don't have every character on their main intro page, and the website IS Homestar Runner.com after all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, Homsar's not in it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I have nothing against trying to get more characters into the logo (although I'm against making Strong Bad central), but I agree with BleedOrange that the chances of anything simular to this actually making it so that it's clear and recognizable is slim at best, so with so many options, I vote no to this one fo'sure fo'sure - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#FCUSA Puzzle|FCUSA Puzzle]]===<br /> The logo is a renderation of the wikipedia logo with Free Country on it. It signifies that we continueously build on the Homestar Runner World. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The logo itself isn't bad (but not great either), but I am a bit disturbed by the idea that we &quot;build&quot; on the world of Homestar Runner, because while we look inside that world at things deeper, we're not really adding to the world TBC created in any way really. As far as the logo goes, I like the idea, the logo itself isn't that simple though, or really all that clear. But it is a good general idea for a design focus. The other thing is I'm not entirely sure that using the globe puzzle, a logo should make a &quot;brand&quot; (in this case the site) distinctive from other simular sites, so thats my view on this. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not saying that we're adding to the world of Homestar Runner, I'm saying that as the Homestar Runner universe expands, we add onto the wiki, building on the information of the world of Homestar Runner as more things are divulged. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ok. Makes more sense to me now. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually, I think you should cut out Homestar and the background and put Homestar Runner WikI under it and it'll look like Wikipedia. --[[User:Gert7|Gert7]] 08:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::As Ilko said, we don't want top connect our identity too much to another website. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I really like the &quot;cleanliness&quot; of this logo. The strong black lines around the globe and the kamikaze bg. Although I think it's a little odd of the placement of homestar's head and the font. I still like it and with some work it could be better. I do agree that using the puzzle concept still connects us strongly to wikipedia... and it probably would require (maybe) their permission as well.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think there's too much going on in this one. It's also too close to the Wikipedia logo for my taste.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I agree; too 'busy'. Nice try though. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 01:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Field|Field]]===<br /> I kind of like this one...and the field is a good background for the logo. What about Homestar, SB, and maybe one or two others gathered around the stick? Or maybe that would be too cluttered. Hmm.... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This isn't bad, but the field seems a little non-specific for a logo. Not first place in my book - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think this would be my favorite if it had the kamikaze background. But I see there could be a problem with the lines converging. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I like having The Field as a background. It's a good general representation of the H*R universe. One of my favorites right here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm not a fan of how the text is shown. i don't know, maybe a different font would make it look better, but the fact that it's pushed into the side instead of centered...not fond of it. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 01:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad|Homestar and Strong Bad]]===<br /> :This is a pretty good concept: I like the inclusion of Strong Bad as well as Homestar, since both are equally central to the Homestar Runner body of work. If we end up liking this design, there are some small suggestions I could make, but as an overall design I think it shows great promise. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Not to into this. I like the idea. But not this logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's cool. BUT I don't don't like the blinking. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::The thing I don't like is the font. Dark on dark? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Too too much Strong Bad focus along with color and font issues. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field|Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field]]===<br /> I liked the idea above, but not the logo itself. So I put them in the field. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like a lot of things about this: I like the inclusion of both SB and HR, the foreground/background juxtaposition, and the classic setting of The Field. In my mind, this is a strong candidate. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think it's a very nice logo. I'm using it on my monobook right now. I increased the brightness so it blended better with the Wiki. It looks pretty good on my 'puter and I think it has a lot going for it. Features the two main characters in a classic and common setting for the toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm still happy with the original, but of the prospective future logos, this one is my favorite. Simple but effective. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Also my favorite... I like Homestar coming in from the side, and I love Strong Bad's pose. Excellent. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Very professional looking. Not my personal favorite, but one of my favorites. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Looking over them all this ''might'' (I'm not sure) be my favorite. It 1) doesn't have just Homestar, 2) has Strong Bad, and 3) looks, well, logolike. I can't quite explain that, but it has a certain logociousness that, say, Weclome Back doesn't. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree with AbdiViklas. This logo looks ''very'' professional and a lot like a logo. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::This one's my favorite and Official Logo Homestar gets second place. This design really does look professional, unlike some that would be more appropriate for the informal fanstuff wiki. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 13:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :While I do think this is above average as a logo for the site (in that it is pretty clean and recognizeable), I don't like that it seems to focus on Strong Bad with Homestar seeming to interupt him, if we go with anything with both involved (which I am very against anywho) it should have Homestar at center and Stongbad in the background and mostly out of frame. Also I think Homestar should have his mouth closed in any logo design, it's just more professional. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::While I hear what you're saying, I'm not sure I understand it: Why do you feel so strongly that it should be just Homestar, or Homestar-centric? (Um, aside from the fact that it's called the &quot;Homestar Runner Wiki&quot;, I supppose.) &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::There are a few ways to look at it: 1) if this is your first experience with the world of Homestar Runner, you would expect the character at the center of the logo to be Homestar Runner. 2) We are Homestar Runner Wiki, and not Homestar and Strong Bad Wiki, while Strong Bad is important to the H*R universe, he is not the &quot;focus&quot; of the site 3) Our logo and thus our &quot;brand&quot; has been Homestar-centric, and thus to remove him from the focus really changes our &quot;brand&quot; and I'm not sure thats needed. <br /> All of this is comes back to the same thing you said, our name is Homestar Runner Wiki, and our logo should represent either the entirety of the website, or the character for which the site we're a wiki about was named. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 02:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :To me, it looks more like Strong Bad's in the background, while Homestar is closer to the viewer. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Which is what it's supposed to look like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar in Front of Logo|Homestar in Front of Logo]]===<br /> This is a simple redesign, but design is different than others in a way that its so unoriginal, its original. Think about it.--{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thought about it. No, I don't like it. Not clean enough or clear enough to be a recognizable branding (logo) for the wiki. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah...it sucks...I should've asked someone to help me design it. {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar STAR|Homestar STAR]]===<br /> A cool idea I had. I can do lots of things with this idea, but this is the general concept. He could blink, the star's contrast could be less... his could be more... etc. etc. I accidently flattened a layer while making it, so it was impossible to further change the star's outline. So I'd have to redo it if it was picked to change that part... that or edit a new outline over the current. Anyway. Here's the concept. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :My initial reaction is I like it alot as is. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 02:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I like this one a lot. I think this, Kamikaze Full Boyd, World or the Current Updated are the best designs. While I'm still trying to figure out my top favorite, this is definitely one of them.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::In case anyone cares, these are some alternate versions of the STAR logo. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hstar2.png 1] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hstar1.png 2]. Neither of which I like more than the original I submitted. But thought I'd mention it anyway.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Jokestar Runner|Jokestar Runner]]=== <br /> <br /> It's dot Joey! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This logo would be perfect! Unfortunately, I don't think we could get permission to use that picture from TBC ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Since when do we ask TBC for persmission to use pictures? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Actually. that's the next project after the logo redesign: send TBC individual emails about each image on the wiki asking for their permission to use them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Funny! Funny. That...is a joke, right? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yep &amp;mdash; it's a joke :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Have TBC given any indication that they &lt;b&gt;want&lt;/b&gt; us to do that? If they email one of you and said that they'd prefer for us to get permission to use their images, then ok, we respect their wishes. &lt;b&gt;But&lt;/b&gt; since we've been at this for half a decade and if they haven't complained, then I would consider it a severe annoyance to email them about every image. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 02:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::See above :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Actually, we've only been at this for three years. Point still taken, though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's dot... Jeoy? Don't you mean Joey? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :&lt;goes and looks&gt; What the..yeah, you're right! I guess that just slipped everyone's mind! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's okay; if we pick this one, we can make the correction ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You seriously need to stop being sarcastic. But...did you make this logo? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::He wasn't being sarcastic, Brightstar. The logo itself was meant as a joke, and so you really shouldn't take the discussion in this section too seriously ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yeah, sorry about the dumb jokes; they're not ill-meant. And Invisible Robot Fish made this one. :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I realized that right after I saved my edit. Darn. Oh, and Loafing, I know it's a joke. I was gonna put a smiley after that first sentence, but that would've made 6 (now 7) smilies in this disscussion topic. But just because I can...&lt;(^_^)&gt; ^(^_^)&gt; &lt;(^_^)&gt; &lt;(^_^)^ ^(^_^)^ YAAAYY! *ahem* Remind me never to do that again. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Kamikaze Full Body|Kamikaze Full Body]]===<br /> This is like the idea with the logo but without. It's my personal favorite. I think it is the best example of what the new logo should be like. Similar to before but with a refreshing twist.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If this section symbolizes [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|18, 24, and 25]] as a whole, I vote for No Logo Homestar style. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah that's what I meant for this section to symbolize.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Then yeah, all for this. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I really like this one. Simple, but updated. Not too much going on, but newer.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 05:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Heck yeah! [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|24]] is my favorite. I think this is the style we should go with, personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::This version of the logo is my personal fave. The old background with the new Homestar. Because he's what the site is all about and don't you forget it! If you try to bring other character to the logo, some (like me) will complain why you left out that other character. Blinking or not, I don't care. but I want '''this one'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Would prefer a more strait redesign of the current if we went this route, but it's ok - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I almost like this one. The only thing I dislike is the white outline around Homestar. It's too thick. I would like it is it were fading into the blue like the current logo. Also, I dislike the crampedness of the words &quot;Homestar Runner&quot;. Maybe if Homestar were further down a little, and the words were a little bigger. I don't know. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Between this one and the current one, I think the current one is better. It's simpler, more visible, and Homestar looks (and is) more intelligent with his mouth closed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I agree with all others who have this as their favorite. It's a subtle, yet powerful change that is just what this wiki needs. It keeps the simplicity of the old logo, but with a twist. Pretty awesome. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I agree as well. This logo is just what everyone is used to, but updated.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}}<br /> ::::::::::This one's definitely my favourite too. I've got it set as my logo in [[User:Loafing/monobook.css]] for over a week now, and I'm pretty happy with it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> There doesn't seem to be much disapproval for this logo. I still think it's better than any of the others. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Argh, the white blur! It burns my eyes! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I fixed the lines behind Homestar. They are no longer crooked.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I'm leaning towards this one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 06:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Kamikaze Full Body Blurred====<br /> I decided to make the background out of focus. Here's what it looks like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think this is quite a bit better than the regular Kamikaze Full Body. I'll go for this. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's okay, but can you please lessen the white glow around Homestar? Make it less intense, like the current logo. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I like this one. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ok guys. I listened to you. I, get ready for this, REMOVED that white outline and made it more of a transparent glow. It does look better I think. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/kamikaze_new.png VIEW UPDATED BLURRED LOGO WITH NEW TRANSPARENT GLOW] - also, I made an experimental alteration that probably was a bad idea, but here [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/kamikaze_new1.png it is anyway].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::First new one is good. Second, not so good Al. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yeah, the first new one is better. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Lappy|Lappy]]===<br /> This one is interesting and the lettering is pretty nice, I think, but the animation will probably lose it's novelty after a while and annoy some users. I have nothing against animation (like homestar blinking) but not as constant as this. Maybe a static version could be used? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I don't like the cursor blinking either. But I do like the concept. I can make strong bad in it too ya know. It's just the idea. I can take away/add to it. It's best to leave it as one character though, for the reasons that this image is too small for too much more to be going on in it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Good concept, the design as a whole doesn't seem to quite hit me as a &quot;recognizeable logo&quot; but it's again something that could be worked with I think, better than alot of options in my eyes, but still not the best - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::The blinking is kind of distracting. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Agreed. To me, all the animations are distracting. A simple and easy to remember logo is what I'm going for. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Weighed against the other (and now better) ideas. I don't like this one much anymore. Blinking, stationary or uhh.. blinking. It's nice, but not nice enough to be the WIKI logo IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I like the concept, and the design but it's too... non-logoish (as stated by Ilko). Still, it's well done.[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo Homestar|Official Logo Homestar]]===<br /> Summarizing the objections from [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], including the official logo in ours may cross an ethical boundary. Despite this, I think this is an example of a way to broaden the scope of our logo from Homestar the character to the Homestar Runner body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The black one above, does a better job of being a logo for the wiki, as I concur that this makes us seem a little too connected to H*R.com and TBC.<br /> ::I would like it better if the logo was in front of Homestar. With him in front, it's hard to read what the logo says. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::His star is supposed to be replacing the one in the logo, if I'm getting this right. Instead of this: h*r It's this: h/*\r Get it? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|Official Logo with Green Wiki]]===<br /> Looks GWEAT. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :A branding issue with this one. Makes us seem way too connected with the official world of Homestarrunner.com. We need to be sure to keep our brand distinct from TBCs as while this site wouldn't exist otherwise, we are completely seperate and not connected in any way, thus our logo needs to represent that. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I just don't see how using the official logo in our logo is any different than using Homestar in our logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::A definition of a logo(edited from Wikipedia): &quot;A logo is a graphic element or icon of a trademark or brand. A typical logo is designed to cause &lt;B&gt;immediate recognition&lt;/B&gt; by the viewer. The logo's shapes, colors, fonts and images are usually different from others in a similar market.&quot; Thus to use the official logo of Homestarrunner.com as the main focus of our logo is to give the impression that we are part of that brand, which we are not. This is also part of the reason I think we shouldn't stray too far from the logo we already have (Homestar-centric as someone called it). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Very well put.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> This, is, actually the ''first'' suggested logo change, taken from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 2]] at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]'s request. I think it's well crafted. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'll concur that this is a GREAT logo, everything I'd want in a logo if it was my company (simple, easily identifiable, very well connected to the subject represented, presenting a positive and professional image.) Yet, the branding issue is a major problem, there's unfortunately (at least in my mind) no real way to get around it, to make enough changes to avoid potential trademark infringement (or at least intellectual property infringement if it's not a trademarked logo) we'd be cheapening our brand to that of a cheap rip-off of an original (see lots of store brand sodas or &quot;fake&quot; watches and jewelry brands.) Also I stand by the fact that to move too far from what the logo we've got now is not just changing our logo, but rebranding our entire effort, which I do not see as being something we need right now. (If we had changed our mission or our way of operating or something else then yes, we should look at rebranding ourselves, but we haven't.) As is, the only reason to update the wiki logo seems to be that we want to modernize to better represent the subject of the site and just to look more &quot;current&quot; with the times. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I won't mention the H*R logo problem. We've heard plenty of that. But I will say that I definitely don't like the green &quot;Wiki&quot; font. For some reason, the green with the red and blue or the regular H*R logo makes me think of this logo like a kid's toy or something. I just don't like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I think I definitely like this one best. Less is more. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}<br /> Can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about this one I like and dislike at the same time (sorry, wasting space) [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like it. It shows how we relate so closely to h*r.com and how the wiki credits everything to the h*r.com website![[User:Jmoney|-Jmoney]] 00:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === [[HRwiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old Homestarrunner|Old Homestar]] ===<br /> I made this logo with paint (so excuse me for the bad picture) of the Old Homestarrunner standing next to a light green oval with the text HRWiki and standing in front of a white background. - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]<br /> <br /> :[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!]] No. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::To be less blunt than The Mu, it needs work. Lots and lots of work. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I said it was made with paint. P.S can i try one more time? - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]<br /> ::No, I don't think so. The submission time has expired, but you &quot;could&quot; make alterations to it and see what everyone thinks. But now is a little late anyway. Sorry. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old New Star|Old New Star]]===<br /> I'm not sure how much this crosses the boundaries of too much. But I thought it'd be kind of neat if the logo could switch back and forth between the original design for Homestar and the current. The one in the example above is set for 15 second intervals. But I made a [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew30.gif 30 second] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew60.gif 60 second] one as an example. The 15 second is just so you don't have to wait around forever to see it. The 30 or 60 is the actual timer I think it should have. Most people would see it as it is. Just a regular logo, those who stick around for awhile might notice it changed. They'd be like, wait a second... wasn't that a diff. Homestar? It will loop back and forth every 30 or 60 seconds from the original design to the current. It's not a very big file size either. Only around 20 kb.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like the still image of Homestar (current) in front of the old star, but I don't like the animation. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No matter what is decided, I think that this will deserve a paragraph in [[A_History|our history]] once we all decide. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I basically copied the way TBC animated it. So, uhm, what are you saying man! You don't like TBC's animation!?! lol. And yeah, this is pretty historical. Err, hysterical. Hysterically long.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::TBC rarely morph between Homestars if ever. I don't like the looking of going from old to new, it looks rough and abrupt. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Go look at Strongest Man in the world... that's where it's from. I did take out two frames of the animation to get file size down, but otherwise I did it exactly how they did. It doesn't have to be animated either. This is a '''DESIGN IDEA''', it's for the design itself, not just the animation. I can make it stationary too. I kind of like it more stationary anyway. Although I had to animate it. You say TBC never morph between them, but that's not the point. The point is that it morphs between them so sometimes it's the original design and sometimes it is not. It's supposed to be abrupt. I could make it .. fade.. into the other but I promise that wouldn't look as good. How do YOU think it should be animated if you don't like it. Got any ideas? :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Now I made another version where he just blinks (NO MORPHING)... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hsnewstar_blinks.gif stationary - just blinks]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Bleed, you really don't need to get this defensive. You are doing some fine work here but not everyone is going like everything that you do. As I stated above, I like this one stationairy like the link that you post immediately above. Keep up the good work. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not a big fan of the multi-homestar options, we're an encylopedia, not just a history textbook, also this one strikes me as a little too much like something that would be on the website, and we should keep arms length from that in my mind. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: First of all, IRF, I'm NOT getting defensive. I don't know what you got out of what i said, but I didn't take offense. I wanted it to be CLEAR that this is an idea for a logo and it does not have to morph, blink or do anything at all than be a stationary image. Which is why I pointed out &quot;design idea,&quot; and I could go on defending what I said but the point is I wasn't offended at all. I asked how he thought it should be animated because I'd actually like to hear some new ideas if you don't like something. Don't just say, oh well I don't like this... why not say what you would like as well? Anything I say on here is me trying to make clear either WHY I did something one way or that it's just an IDEA and I welcome more. Or I wouldn't continue to keep making logos. And, Skev, I don't see a reason why we should keep away from something that would be on the website. Just because Homestar is standing in front of a star isn't a big deal. I could have him stand in front of a field, kamikaze blue rays or a million other things... but it will all be derived from something on the site. The current logo is like something you would see on the site. So that's my thoughts on this. Oh and I also made a transparent version of the logo. See [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/star.gif this link here for transparent version of the logo]. That's it for now!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I changed the animation, it's a lil smoother now. I think. 20 second interval.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Once again, the animation could be distracting. I'm all in favor of a still image, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]]===<br /> This is an interesting logo. You can't really see the characters underneath the puzzle design, which only represents one part of the wiki (the lots of different article &quot;pieces&quot; part). So it's overshadowing the main concept here, even though I must admit that the logo itself looks really awesome. Oh, and I [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_15#Just_Kinda_Wonderin.27...| totally called the slogan]]. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I think this one's pretty cool, and very professional-looking. The only flaw is that it's a little hard to see the details on the pieces when it's logo-sized... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like this one as a logo, but due to the problems mentioned above, it should not be the main branding logo of the site, if we were a company, I would highly recomend this as a secondary informal logo (for backgrounds, stationary, art, immaging) , so as much as I LOVE this one in every way shape and form, for our purposes, *sigh* - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I really love it. I hope this is the new logo. -Nintendokinz<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Running Intro|Running Intro]]===<br /> <br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Then and Now|Then and Now]]===<br /> I like this particular new idea because... quite honestly, it's going to be very hard to get multiple characters with-in the small logo and have them large enough to visibly see in a nice way. Homestar is, technically, the main character and alone can represent the toon itself... which is why he is on the main pages on the official site. This idea shows how far H*R has come from old to new, and is themed around the original book. Which is always nice. :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like that one, except It seems a little simplistic. Maybe the Homestars could be moved up a little, and have the lettering the same as either the one we have now, the star themed one, or the darker outline one? {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah I could do that. But I was trying to copy the way TBC actually did it on the book. I could make it show all of both Homestar's bodies.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I think maybe we could do half old half new (i.e. the old field and homestar on one side new field and homestar on the other)? Just a thought.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Don't think much of this both for the reasons mentioned in the &quot;field&quot; and in &quot;then and now&quot; - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like it. But, I don't like the possition of &quot;the homestar runner wiki.&quot; {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Weclome Back|Weclome Back]]===<br /> One aspect that I like about this one is that by including multiple characters, it better represents that this is the Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon) Wiki, and not the Homestar Runner (character) Wiki. I'm interested in seeing other logos that incorporate multiple characters or perhaps just Homestar and Strong Bad. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like the [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink2.gif blinkage style]--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::If Homestar is blinking, shouldn't Marzi blink too? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Marzi does blink.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink.gif I like this one the best.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This is too busy for a logo, it isn't something that will be easily connected to the wiki itself in my mind, and it's just really busy. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::What do mean &quot;busy?&quot; --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/busy &quot;Full of distracting detail&quot;], probably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::This one's pretty good, except the text is kinda hard to read. Other than that, good logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Just to clear things up, I'm pretty sure the [[The King Of Town|KOT]], [[Marzipan|Marzi]], and [[Homestar]] all blink in this logo. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The King never blinks. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I swear I saw his eyes move...--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Wiki_Globe|Wiki Globe]]===<br /> I realize that I am not the best graphic designer in the world, but I think that the general idea comes across. The faces need a little bit more work to &quot;sync&quot; better with the globe, and Homestar's face may need to be a little more prominent. Besides that, this is pretty much the concept. I'm not sure if the Wikipedia logo can be used like this, but I don't see why not. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :While it's a nice idea, this would make us look affiliated with 'Kipedia. Some folks are already confusing us as it is, and I don't think we should enforce that perception. I strongly prefer an independent logo of our own.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::In answer to your last sentence, Ation, this kind of falls under the discussions above about using the H*R logo as part of our own. (I.e. might not be okay, and even if it's okay, maybe not desirable.) Although I wouldn't be nuts about this as a logo, I ''do'' think it's awesome. (This, by the way, is what I immediately thought of when I saw &quot;Puzzle&quot;.) &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::On the subject of whether this would be allowed, I suggest you look at [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] &amp;ndash; though that was about [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], and we'd have to ask them again if we chose this logo, I expect we'd get a similar response. Personally, I agree with Loafing, the line between us and Wikipedia already seems muddied enough, to new users... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Agree with the above comments. Nonetheless, it does look really cool! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :In addition to the Wikipedia issues, we are not Strong Bad Wiki. You're not doing any favors to first time visitors with this one. We need to make sure the logo represents what we're about to someone with no idea who we are (or maybe even Homestar is). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I made some changes to the logo. Mostly, changes the globe from Strong Bad's head to Homestar's hat, rearranged faces, and &quot;coolified the letters&quot;. People think it's better or worse? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Much better, but many of the issues from above still are in play - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]===<br /> I made a brand new logo that I think works very well. Everyone's opinion is always different but I like it. For one thing, it incorporates a globe behind Homestar... we're like an encyclopedia to the world about Homestar Runner, many people using the Wiki are from all around the globe. This shows that. It uses the fictional globe in which Free Country, USA exists, so it also doubles as a symbol of the HR world. Homestar is standing there. Obviously. And it stands out from most of the other ideas, the website itself and is very different from the original logo. I made a few different colors for the background. A grey, blue and brown one. I tried other colors and trust me, they don't look as good.<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey.png Grey]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue.png Blue]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Brown.png Brown]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Grey Blinks]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue_Bl.gif Blue Blinks]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Brown Blinks]<br /> And just in case you are wondering how it would look ON the wiki. I made a GIF image that cycles between them as an example. It's low quality, but it gives you the idea. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/exampleworld.gif Example of Logo on the Wiki Itself]. I am a big fan of either the '''Grey''' or '''Blue''' ones. I don't like the Brown so much. And I'd actually prefer it to be stationary, but I made some that blink too. I could always make the blink times less or more. Anyway, what do you think?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 20:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Due to requests.. I changed the main idea to a lighter colored background. Which I like better too. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/lightergrad.png VIEW UPDATED IDEA HERE]. And if we wanted to change the favicon, it could always be the image of the globe itself without homestar in front of it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::That new one is very cool, although I don't really like how his shadow is going to the right, as if the light is coming from the right. It sort of conflicts with the shadow that TBC already put there. If you removed the spotlight, that would make it perfect. (He's floating a little too. You might want to remove the shadow below him.) I wouldn't really like shading in the logo at all, if nessicary, because you want it to seem like it's looking straight at you. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Per your requests.. I removed the shadow on Homestar (agreed it contradicts the established shadow, though I could move it to the other direction). [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_somechanges.png View Some Changes on the logo]. How's that?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I think that it looks great now, nice and slick. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I like it... a lot. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: I changed the direction of the shadow, and did one without the shadow... changing the way Homestar faces to being the right. Take a look [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/World_shadowleft.png With Shadow Facing Right] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_noshadow.png Without Shadow Facing Right].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::It still seems a little weird to me with the shadow, now it's conflicting the world's shadow. (Plus, Homestar's a little off center). I do think that the one without the shadow is great. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Corrected some problems with the one where he faces right with no shadow. (I made the other side of the globe darker on accident) [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/facerightnoshad.png View Corrected One Here].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Well, this gets my vote. It cooooool. It reallyhas nothing to do with the wiki exept for the homestar. But alright. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> AWSOME! Go with it guys! -[[Strong Badman]] The day before Thanksgiving @ 9pm<br /> <br /> I love this one. Probably my second favorite. Good representation of the Homestar universe. Not too simple, not too busy. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Can you make Homestar blink in that logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Having Homestar blink would probably mess up all the awesome gradiants Bleed0range has in there, so it would probably be messy (and impractical) to make him blink. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Good point. The awesome gradients of this logo would match the awesome gradients of the Main Page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::The Kamikaze full body is no longer my personal fave. This one is definitely my personal favorite of them all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I agree. This one is very awesome. Except, the gradient mixed with the world's shadow. Maybe getting rid of the world's shadow would help? (Curse those shadows! They always seem to get the best of you!) - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Nah, I think the gradient around the globe is necessary. It makes it look nicer than without. I tried it without and I didn't think it looked very good. The gradient is what helps give the globe a three dimensional feel. Things can have multiple shadows. Getting rid of the world's shadow would be a very difficult photoshop edit that would require a lot lot lot of time and probably not even look very good. I tried increasing the brightness... that didn't work. I'd have to piece it together using like the clone stamp tool or something which... *sigh* would take forever and like I said, probably look awful.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Even with this logo, which looks fine, I still firmly believe in the 18/24/25 version. But then, it's a personal choice that I'm going for minimal change here. I just want to preserve the integrity of our original logo as much as possible, and I don't feel any of these other logos fulfill that. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Holy crap this one is way better than the full body logo I totally change my vote to this one like Bleed0range {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 20:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> While I don't see what's wrong with our current logo, this is probably my favorite of the new ones. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This one is very good, and I think it would look awesome with a transparent background (much in the same way [[Wikipedia:Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png|Wikipedia's logo]] lays on top of the page). We can discuss these details more if we end up picking this logo, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I do like this one. It does very little to mess with the current branding of the site and organization while updating the logo to something that feels more &quot;modern&quot;. It is fairly simple to recognize, exclusive to this site, and makes good conections to what we're about here at the wiki. It makes my top 5 (behind Homestar STAR and Current Updated, and along with Basement and Puzzle) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, this one has a lot of potential as a transparent logo. It wouldn't even have to be saved as a real transparent GIF or, in its case, alpha-blended PNG (due to the shadow), since its place on the page is static; we can just insert that portion of the page background underneath it and flatten it. But the globe and shadows would have to be tweaked so that the shadows don't &quot;run&quot; outside the 150×150 space allotted. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree with Joshua completely. If the logo must be changed, please let it be to this one. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::This one is my favorite. The only thing that I don't like is the font. If we are selecting a new logo, why not a new font? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like this one. It's pretty cool. Though I DO agree that the font needs to be changed....<br /> ::I heard that it would look nice if this image were transparent. SO, now it is. In fact, I made two versions. One is transparent and animated (the blinking) and the other is just the older version but now it's transparent. Here are the updated logos. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/World_Transparent_Animated.gif VIEW ANIMATED TRANSPERENT WORLD LOGO] or [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/World_Transparent_NonAnimat.gif VIEW NON-ANIMATED TRANSPERENT WORLD LOGO]. Test them out on your monobook to see if they look good or not. Oh, and for those who don't know how to use their monobook (or your just lazy), I took a screenshot of it on the main page... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/Example_Of_Logo_On_Wiki_MainPage.jpg Check it out].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 19:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::This, along with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current_Updated|Current Updated]], is one of my two favorites. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I think this is a new step and looks very origanal and suits well as a new logo for the wiki. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==&lt;s&gt;Other ideas&lt;/s&gt; (submission time expired)==<br /> &lt;s&gt;Do you have a great logo idea but not the graphic design tools to make it yourself? Post your idea here, and someone may try to make it.&lt;/s&gt;<br /> <br /> ===AhnbergHand===<br /> Another suggestion, which in no way discounts my support for the current logo with Homestar's current design, is [http://www.hrwiki.org/logoright/logo.php]. Perhaps one of those images? I especially like the one in AhnbergHand. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Wiki Bowl===<br /> Maybe A big star in the background with &quot;Homestar Runner&quot; in a arch and &quot;Wiki&quot; in a bowl like shape with Homestar and Strong Bad's Head {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Main Page Message===<br /> Look, I got an idea of a logo that I can't make, cause I neither have the template I need nor the font I need. How about a logo that looks like the Main Page message thingy that says &quot;Homestar Runner Wiki&quot;?.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]<br /> <br /> ==Favicon==<br /> <br /> There have been strong objects to using anything a logo that [[:Image:Logo Redesign Official Logo Homestar.png|resembles]] [[:Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png|the]] [[:Image:Logo Redesign Old New Star.gif|offical]] [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner site logo]]. Here is a [[:Image:Official_style_logo.png|screen print]] of the QOTW page. You will notice 4 times where we've used the official h*r logo. #'s 2, 3, and 4 can be argued as legit because they do link the official site, &lt;b&gt;but&lt;/b&gt; #1 (the icon at the top which also appears in your bookmarks) doesn't have anything to do with the official but our site. I propose that if so many people feel that we shouldn't be using the h*r logo, we also shouldn't be using it in the address bar of the browser. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, the favicon doesn't stick out as much as the logo, and as you said, the rest are links to the official site. If we adopted the Homestarrunner logo as our logo, I think that that would just be intense copycatting. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Although I certainly don't see any reason that, once we get done with this, we don't turn our attention to a new favicon. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Definitely. We already addressed this briefly at the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive 7#favicon|original discussion]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :What's a favicon? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::A [[Wikipedia:Favicon|favicon]] is what IRF circled a 1) in his screenshot.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ah, I see. But that'll probably just change with whatever logo we end up picking, right? What's the use of having a logo and a favicon that look completely different from each other? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I guess that's hard to answer until we've picked one, but the size differences might matter. A favicon has to be able to look good and be recognizable in very small dimensions. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::The favicon has doesn't match our current logo so it doesn't logically follow that it would change too. I think the onyl reason that it would change is all the recent discussion about the official logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical not to change the favicon after the discussion about the official logo not being used in the logo. The favicon uses the H*R logo, which, according to many user's opinion's here, would be immoral. If you can't use it in the logo, then you shouldn't be able to associate the official logo with any other part of the Wiki itself, including the favicon. So I think it HAS to be changed if the majority of user's believe you can't use the H*R logo in the Wiki logo. I'd find it hard to argue that point.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::So everybody stop talking and make something. It need not match whatever we go with for our big logo. Also, we will use variations of it at the fanstuff and forum, so keep that in mind. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Idc, I tried for an hour last friday to find the actual graphic for the favicon, so that I could study it in terms of dimensions, pixel size, and how it look when enlarged. If I could find the graphic file, I would be glad to propose favicons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::The file is at [http://www.hrwiki.org/favicon.ico favicon.ico] for nearly all websites. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::The image displayed by most browsers is 16&amp;times;16 pixels. Ideas do not need to be in any particular format. We'll handle the technical details of converting it and whatnot. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Some ideas are as follows. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/homestar.jpg Homestar's Head] looks nice as an icon. Also, [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/homestar2.jpg With a background color] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/starshirtico.jpg starshirt red]. It's rather difficult to accomplish written text in a 16x16 space, these are the most legible and pleasing designs I could come up with.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like the idea of the favicon matching the logo in style. If we pick either of my two favorite logos, [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current_Updated|Current Updated]] or [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current_Updated|World]], then I would suggest that we use for the favicon Homestar's head against the blue Kamikaze background or Homestar standing against the globe, respectively (no words in either case). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Trey I'm not sure that you realize how hard that is to do in 16x16. I'm surprised that we can read hrw in our current favicon. I tried to make a few but even the simple were very non-readable. If we are to make a favicon that matches the logo that will have to be on talented dude or dudett. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, I had actually done a couple ''very'' rough mock-ups before I posed the above comment; and while they looked small, those things ''always'' look small, unless you have an exceedingly simple graphic... I hear you though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::How about just a W a-la Wikipedia, but in the same font of the chosen logo? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Quick question/suggestion ==<br /> <br /> I realize I'm getting into this pretty late in the game, but I have a quick question: Is there any particular reason we can't have the main logo be a random image chosen from a list of several favorites, such that each time the user loads an HRWiki page, the logo is one of the favorite images? This would give the Wiki a slightly more dynamic look. Just an idea. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That's certainly possible, although there is currently no mechanism in place to achieve such a thing. However, I believe one logo would better serve to establish our identity. Also, individual users can always customize their personal monobooks. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No, that would be a bad idea. The logo is the only big symbol that appears on every page on the wiki. Visitors need to be able to easily find out that they are indeed on an HRWiki page. Having more than one logo would make this confusing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Okay, so which one should we choose? ==<br /> <br /> A lot of these are very interesting and creative ideas. Kudos to all who have participated so far. Now we need to talk about which one, if any, to actually choose. Note: this is not a vote, it's a discussion, in which we will hopefully reach a consensus. During this process we may simply choose something from the project page, or we might revise or combine various ideas. I'll get the ball rolling: the original mandate was to update, rather than completely replace, the logo. While I certainly like many of the designs, I would be satisfied with the [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] design. It would give us a more modern look without straying too far from our current design, and I think the close-up of Homestar is better than half-body or full-body shots. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like the [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] design as well, but I'd be happy keeping the [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]] design as well. This is our logo, it's the way it's looked for a while and a bit of a freshening is good, but an alltogether change would be too drastic.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I concur with Dot com. [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] is good for me, and for basically the same reasons he's given. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I would be equally happy with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] and [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]. The former, for all the reasons above, and about the latter, I think it looks professional enough, and perhaps the presence of the FCUSA globe helps extend the scope of the logo beyond Homestar Runner the character to the greater Homestar Runner Universe. Or perhaps I'm full of crap. At any rate, it would look cool with a transparent background laying on top of the other background. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I like both [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]] &amp; [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|the green wiki one]], if I can have a say in this. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Of course you can. It's dot wiki! Anyways, I prefer [[HRWiki:Logo_redesign_2006#Kamikaze_Full_Body|Kamikaze Full Body]] &amp;mdash; I've been using it as the logo in my css for weeks now &amp;mdash; and I'd also be happy with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]. For the reasons I've already said before, I wouldn't want to use anybody other's logo, such as the puzzle idea or the official h*r logo.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::World, Weclome Back, Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field, and FCUSA Puzzle are my favorites. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I honestly think that world is no doubt the best-looking one. It also has the same degree of talent put into it as the current one, by which I mean it has an expert use of flash. The current updated image is a very high-quality image, just as the world image is. Yet I think that we need to go beyond subtle changes to get the potential that the world image offers. [[User:69.162.199.33|69.162.199.33]] 22:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I hate to be repititious, but both Current Updated and World are my two favorites as well. Also, I like Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field, but if I had to pick one (which I do), Current Updated would be my choice. Just don't make him blink. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Ditto to Tom. My sentiments exactly. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I suppose I could live with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]], as it fits my basic subjective qualities for a good logo. And yes, like It's dot com said, this is better because it's an update, rather than a replacement. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::It seems a waste to dispose of all the cool, new, and different logo ideas that came up and just settle on a simple update. I have no problem with Current Updated, but in retrospect, this could have been dealt with in much less time if we had thought about what we really ''wanted'' first. But I guess this whole ordeal kind of gave us that answer, so I'll shut up now and just root for the aforementioned. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::Nothing has been a waste. A decision such as this should ''not'' move quickly, and it is good to have a lot of choices. If we do go with Current Updated, it will be because we compared all the options and still decided a modest update was better than a more radical change. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::I know I should have said this when we were still talking about the individual logos, but I now found out that I don't really like the World one because it uses an old piece of animation. That planet was made only to be seen in the theme song (and Main Page 1) and for me it now represents the older, less mature style of the site. Although it's the wiki's way of imagining how FCUSA looks like, we don't really know if it is. If a new, made in the current animation toon would pop up with a new vision of FCUSA, it will be embarrassing for the whole wiki.<br /> :::::::::::::That's why I choose '''Kamikaze Full Body''' as our logo. It is similar to our current one, but taking a step backward to see the whole picture, the full Homestar Runner experience. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I understand where your coming from E.L. Cool, but TBC haven't updated the look of FCUSA yet nor do we have any evidence they will, therefore it is still current. What is less mature about a globe anyway? If they do re-design it, it would be a very easy job of changing the globe to an updated design. I made multiple new ideas because of a few reasons. One reason is that change is good, and this wiki has matured and I think the logo should as well. MY original statement was to mearly update the logo. Nobody included the current updated designs &quot;I&quot; made on this selection page, even though they were part of the original discussion in Da Basement. I thought they were not included because the first option &quot;Current&quot; was supposed to stand for all variations of the current design. I thought everyone was (at least at one time) gung-ho for the idea of a completely new logo. '''My pick is the world logo.''' I like everything the WORLD logo stands for. I think it's good looking, has an encylopedic look and shows how we people from all over the world contribute to this wiki. It's not just a globe of FCUSA, FCUSA merely is there to give us a H*R themed version of Earth. It's a symbol of what the wiki IS in the first place. Furthermore, I'm a little dissapointed that after all the many logo submitions and the (nearly 70) different logos I made we just want to update the look of the original with an out of focus background and change Homestar's mouth to being open? I have this slight feeling that many of you are afraid of the change, that your just used to the old style and really do not want to change it at all. I personally do not see the new current updated as much of an improvement on the original design. I actually like it less after putting it in my monobook, especially the font. So if you guys want to keep the original design, I think we should just keep the original design. It was my error that the version of Homestar on the CURRENT logo is actually the CURRENT style Homestar is drawn in. It was just drawn differently for the logo. That should be made loud and clear so people understand that. I also really like the star logo I made, but that doesn't seem to be much of a crowd pleaser.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::After thinking it over. I could live with the Current Updated if that were picked. But I still think the font needs to be changed.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::You've made several points here, and I'm sure I can't answer them all, but I have thoughts about a few of them. First, I think it's okay that many of us are reluctant to drastically change the logo. In a lot of ways, a logo is like a username &amp;mdash; a username is a symbol of a wiki user, and if you change it, you have to do a lot of work to rebuild the reputation you've built under the old name. Likewise, the logo is a symbol of the wiki as a whole, and if you change it, you intrinsically lose something. Everytime a casual user loads a page, they no longer see the familiar stamp of approval in the corner indicating that they're on the Homestar Runner Wiki. Now, I'm exaggerating and being cheesy here for emphasis, but my point is that unless there's a very strong choice for a logo that the community as a whole feels represents them, then it may be better to stick with the familiar symbol.<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Now, I think everyone here greatly appreciates all the work that went into all the logo designs, many of which you created. But even if none of them is chosen as the final logo, the project as a whole has been served in that the community has seen a host of options that has helped them become conscious of what is important to them as a representative symbol. And while a particular logo may not be chosen as the final product, it's very likely that some aspects of it (e.g., blinking, style, etc.) may be incorporated into the final design. All this being said, I still think that World would be an awesome choice if the community as a whole agrees. So, thanks Bleed0range, for all the work you've put into this project &amp;mdash; one way or another, it will have had a major influence on the final choice. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Awww, shucks. Thanks Trey. Anyway. I understand what your saying. I knew that all along. But the Wiki will still be the wiki no matter what is in the corner. My opinion is, if we change it, we might as well ''change'' it. It's been very hard to get away from the kamikaze type design, so I guess that shows that most users would prefer it that way. I am currently using the Transparent, Stationary World logo and it looks awesome IMO. I know that seems biased since I made it, but I really do like it and regardless I may keep it in my monobook if not chosen.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::We still have to remember that we're not doing this entirely for ourselves. Think of the new visitors to the site, and what they will think of the logo. We want something that will strike out at them, yet not be repetitious after time. Ours right now pretty much furfills that, but I think that it's kind of weak, and that current updated could give a new edge to it that everyone will like, if they're new or not. However, changing the logo to something completely different wouldn't be that bad either, because we will get used to it after a while, and if a new user comes in, it will make an impression that this is a very professional place. So I think that if we agree on a logo better than current design, it shouldn't stop us from using it. Personally, I'm leaning towards World, Current Design, Homestar STAR, or Homestar and Strong Bad in a field. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::::The Joe has a point; it isn't just for everyone who's been staring at the logo so long that they're sick of it. It's to benefit everyone in the community, and not in it. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::::Current Updated is my favorite. It looks fresh, but doesn't stray too far from what we have. Sure it's supposed to be a &quot;''re''design&quot;, but in my opinion (please don't shoot me) many of the suggestions that are too unlike the current look tacky. As The Joe said, we want something that will catch the attention of visitors. But I also think of what the opinions of &quot;regular&quot; visitors and new users might be (mainly because I'm down there with them ;) ). I want something that looks new, but not ''too'' different. &amp;mdash; {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:27, 28 November 2006<br /> <br /> ===Summary to this point===<br /> This is a summary of the discussion above: Most people are in favor of at least updating the logo, although a few would be okay with leaving it like it currently is. Of the designs that would actually ''change'' the logo, World is the most popular choice, although less than half of those responding so far have mentioned it, and some have even said that they do ''not'' like World. Current Updated seems to be the overwhelming overall choice, either as a first choice or as a suitable second choice among those who also like something else. The questions I put to you now, then, are these: (1) Is what I have just said an accurate summary of the above discussion? (2) If so, then are we ready to consider Current Updated to be the result of the discussion? (3) Is there anyone who would be strongly opposed to making Current Updated be the new logo? (4) If we are in fact going with Current Updated, what minor tweaks, if any, should be done to it for it to be ready to be put in place? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In respective response, (1) I believe this to be an accurate summary of the above comments, (2) I believe Current Updated is largely a favorite, not to mention favorable, (3) I'm not strongly opposed, and I feel that very few will be, and (4) If anything, I would recommend perhaps a slight increase in letter spacing for &quot;Wiki&quot;. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In my opinion: (1) Yes. (2) Only 14 users have voiced their opinion in this section, so I think we should give it a bit more time. (4) In any case, the font should be the same as in the current logo. I would also like to see the edges of Homestar a bit smoother than they are in &quot;Current Updated&quot;.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::As for me, (1) Ditto. (2) Just wait a bit. Even though only 14 users responded, they got very longwinded about their preferences and thus spoke in place of a lot of others that could have posted. I suggest we have an old STUFF-like vote with every cantidate being voted upon. (3) We'll see, but I don't think so. (4) Font change, no blink. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I also believe that you accurately summarized the above, but as I haven't weighed in yet, I also like [[HRWiki:Logo_redesign_2006#World|World]]. It's fresh, simple, and professional. I am not emotionally attached to our current logo. The only thing that I would like to say about '''world''', is that I don't like the font. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::''IRF:'' That's great, but the most important question currently is question (3).<br /> ::::''Brightstar:'' I'll say again, this is not a vote, it's a discussion. We're trying to find something that we can all live with (or as close to all as practically possible), not just something a simple majority wants. Now that Current Updated appears to be where the consensus is headed, the question should not be &quot;Which one do you like?&quot; but rather &quot;Can you live with Current Updated or not?&quot;<br /> ::::''Regarding the time frame:'' I certainly don't want to limit anyone's ability to give input, but we need to keep the discussion moving so it doesn't wander aimlessly like it did in all of the subsections above. Additionally, we have gone out of our way to advertise the fact that we are holding this discussion and that it would be the end of the month when we would be making a decision. Well, the end of the month is fast approaching. A lot of people have already stated their opinions, but if anyone else has anything to say, the time to do so is now. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yeah, I forgot about that. Considering the deadline, it looks like '''Current Updated''' will be the obvious choice.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::(1) As one of the few who hadn't been following the majority of the discussion, I trust your and others' judgment. (2) Yes, Current Update is the way to go. (3) Not that I think of. (4) I don't like the background being this blurry. Maybe a bit, but not so much. Make it blink once every 20 seconds or more. The font is ok, although I con't care if it was changed to something similar. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 22:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I fixed the font and slowed the blink to once every 15 seconds. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :(1) Same response as E.L. Cool. (2) I agree, Current Updated is my pick - if we must go with just one logo, I recommend updating the current logo rather than drastically changing the look. (3) No opposition here. (4) I like it just the way it's currently shown on the images page. Personally, I'd rather not see it blinking at all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The blink is one of the coolest parts. I think it's slow enough now that it's not annoying and is more of an Easter egg, as someone put it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hm. Now that I see Current Updated on the main page, I think I like the old one better. I think it's the blurry background and Homestar's mouth being open that I don't like as well (I asked my wife what she thought and, unprompted, she said the same thing). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I took a few minutes and closely compared the current and the current updated. There a few thing that I like and don't like about Current Updated.<br /> ::*'''I like''' (a) the open mouth vs the closed mouth, (b) the new font vs the old font, (c) the newer homestar vs the old<br /> ::*'''I don't like''' (a) the blur, it makes it look like a hologram or something.<br /> ::*'''I do not care about''' the blink.<br /> :::{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 01:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I don't like that one the main page. Like I said before. It doesn't look as good. Everyone have a look at the The World Logo on the Main Page, below, and tell me what you think. I very much like it. I'm not sure how to do that temporary file thing (or if I can) so that's why I used the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Now that I see the current logo on the main page, I don't really like the feel of it. The world on the other hand, looks excellent. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know. It just reminds me of Wikipedia. Looking at the Current Updated on the main page, though, and I'm not sure I like it, either. I made a version, below, that is much closer to the current logo. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I do prefer Homestar's open mouth over his closed mouth. But I do like [[:Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated_b.gif|this background]] better than the blurry one. Hmmm, a few hours ago it all seemed as if we could agree on one logo, and now some are discussing how to improve that one, and others are discussing which logo to choose instead. That's a bit chaotic, folks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, well. I keep ''trying'' to like the World logo, but something about it just isn't right in my mind. In the spirit of compromise, I have blended what I feel are the best elements of the Current Updated B and the World ideas into one, and I think it is not bad at all. Check it out below. The more I look at the original Current Updated, the more it looks too cartoony and not professional at all. I like the Blended idea, but if I had to, I would settle for Current Updated B if it meant that or don't change at all. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Now, I may want more of an update than a change, but I disagree with the use of Current Updated B. And yes, comparing all of them, Current Updated doesn't look so hot anymore either. In fact, considering all four of them, &quot;World&quot; would have maybe 30% of my favor and &quot;Blended&quot; would have 70%; looking at them in the upper left corner helps tremendously. In summarization, I'm beginning to lean towards '''Current Updated and World Blended'''. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I think that current updated and world blended is the best, but Homestar's body needs to be a little bigger. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 04:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'll start off by saying that I'm no graphic artist, I'm a terrible artist which is why you'll never see me try and submit a logo. I think Dot com's summary is also correct, with the options at this point basically being an updated current logo or the world logo. Since some users think there's something wrong with the world logo that they can't quite put their finger on (I also kind of feel this way), what about taking the world logo and trying different versions of it? Then we pit a couple of those verses a couple of updated logos, and see what gains the most popularity? I admit this could also be construed as a step backwards, which is why I would also be happy with simply an update of our current logo. And if we go with that, I vote closed mouth and slow blink. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you look at the subsection way above, you'll see that there are already lots and lots of variants. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I really like all choices, but why can't we use the blinking time TBC use? At this blink rate it's unnoticeable. I think if we're gonna update, and we have the technology to do the blinking, let's do it right. 4 secs. Not too often to distract, not so slow as to make it unnoticeable. And true to canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree. If it's going to blink, follow the canon. (I'd prefer a non-animated logo, but I don't feel strongly about it). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::People who are currently testing a 5-second interval blinking logo complain that it is distracting, and others have stated on this page that they desire no blinking at all. I feel that a very slow blink rate is an acceptable compromise compared to having no blink or a rapid blink. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I suppose I should revise my previous comment, I feel very strongly that the logo should not be animated. A slow blink rate only means it distracts you less often, it's still a distraction. I don't think we want that &amp;mdash; I'm reminded of [[website]] in which TBC satirized gratitous use of animated gifs. (When I said I don't feel strongly, it's only because either way it won't be animated on my browser). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Ooh, I like the new choices (Current Updated B and World &quot;Blended&quot;). I consulted again with my better half, who represents the &quot;occasional Homestar Runner watcher&quot; demographic, and her reaction was also that she liked them both better than the previous incarnations. She did say something to the effect of &quot;Why's Homestar in front of a globe?&quot; I showed her [[Theme Song Video]], and it made more sense to her, but I thought it illustrated a small point that ''almost everybody'' who will come to this site has seen [[Intro]] &amp;mdash; it's the first thing you see when you go to Homestarrunner.com (unless you skip it). And if they haven't seen it, the &quot;kamikaze&quot; background is neutral enough that it's not going throw anybody off. The FCUSA globe, however, comes from a much more obscure toon. Just thought that was a useful perspective, since most people that come to our site aren't as well-versed in HSR as we are. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::What's wrong with a drastic change? It's not like we don't need it. And World isn't the biggest change in the world. I suggest we use that. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I still don't like the world image. And I admit I'm not quite sure what's distressing about the look of Current Updated on the main page; it looks fine to me. I'm still good with going that way. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I made another version of the current updated idea - my take on it [http://www.hrwiki.org/images/e/e8/Logo_Redesign_CurrentUpdate_MyTake.png see it here]. I'm not too sure about it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> After a bit of personal deliberation, I suppose I can live with '''Current Updated B'''. At the very least, it's an update. In regards to bleed0range's most recent submission, I'm not too sure about it either. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :After thinking about it some more, I like '''Current Updated B''' over the rest. Although I like the look of World, I agree with Trey's analysis that new users will not equate the globe with FCUSA, nor will they will they know what FCUSA is. They will however know Homestar and might recognize the Kamikazee if the had JUST watched the intro. The reason I say that is I consider myself a MAJOR H*R buff. I can quote emails and toons that I haven't seen since 2003 and yet when I saw the Kamikazee background I did not [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive_7#Updating_the_WIKI_Logo|think of the intro]]. I think that the blended one and bleed's most recent submission are a little too dark for my liking. So overall I now changed my position that Current Updated is the best fit to meet all of our wiki needs. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::OK, I'd be good with current updated B ''if'' it were changed to have a bit less of the white aura around Homestar. As it is, it makes him look a bit distorted, at least to my eyes. The amount of aura on current updated A seems about right to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Actually, our current logo has more aura than any of these. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Our current logo also has a black line around Homestar delineating him from the aura. In getting rid of that black line (which, don't get me wrong, is good), we make him look, well, &quot;fat around the edges&quot;, to quote Marzipan with all the white aura around him. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> :My view, made as brief as possible. I have nothing against any of the available options, but I much like another person asked my wife who has watched most of the toons, but has no real addiction like me, about the options and her responses were for World and World Blended &quot;Why did they put Homestar in front of the United States?&quot;, for Current Updated &quot;Homestar looks kinda dumb with his mouth open. . .I mean he is kinda dumb, but that just doesn't seem to say that you all are smart. . .&quot;, and for Current Updated B &quot;Whats the difference other than it doesn't look as clean?&quot; With that in mind, here's my thoughts; I do think that the issue I have with World/World Blended is that to someone who doesn't know any better it does seem like Homestar is in front of the United States, and as for the other 2, I've never liked the look of Homestar with his mouth open and the less bluring the better. So I guess my vote is for Current Updated B. It comes the closest to modernizing our brand without distorting it for new clients. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hey guys, well my opinion is leaning towards &quot;Current Updated&quot;... and my second favorite would be &quot;Current Updated B&quot;. I think Homestar with his mouth open is a great logo. Anyway, there's my opinion... --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 22:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :My favourite is the Homestar from ''Current Updated'' with the background from ''Current Updated B''. Being not from the US, I agree with Ilko's wife's &quot;United States observation&quot;, so I wouldn't like either of the world logos.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm...Now that I see them all, I'd have to agree with Loafing. I hadn't even thought about how US-centered the world one would be. Current updated B is now my favorite. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 22:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Current updated B is looking a lot better now. I'm good with it (although I still prefer the original current updated version). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::This interesting in that this is a fluid discussion with a lot of give, take, and revision but for history's sake it will be impossible for people to understand why people don't like Current Updated B, then love it (because the Current Updated B is different than it was earlier). With that said, I LOVE the way Current Updated B is now, it lost the blurr and looks very nice. My favorite. '''good prize''' {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I still say we go with World. I mean, what's the point of changing our logo without, uh, changing our logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Although I was never opposed to change the original intent was not to change the logo. The original intent was to update the logo, and even that wasn't a given. There was a chance that we would do anything. We don't change for the sake of change. We are looking for the best fit for the wiki. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::IRF: Note, all of the changes to [[:Image:Logo Redesign Current Updated b.gif|Current Updated B]] (and all the other images) are stored in the file history, so it would in fact be possible to reconstruct a timeline if someone needed to. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Adding my voice to those who like &quot;Current Updated B&quot; - that one is good. I personally do not like either of the World icons at all - it's Homestar: &quot;But He's In Space!&quot;. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Meh. I still like the normal &quot;Current Updated&quot; better. I mean... with homestar's smile... it just lightens up the wiki. :P --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 02:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, it really does. I'd like it if we went with Current Updated/World Blended, but with Homestar's mouth open. To me, a closed mouth looks like he's staring at you. ''Staring''. Anyway, I don't care about the blink much anymore, but the &quot;every 15 seconds instead of 3 or whatever it was&quot; sounds best to me. We need to wrap this up pretty soon, so if anybody has any objections to our 4 choices here, speak now or forever hold your piece. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :PLEASE PICK THE ONE WHERE HE IS SMILING. it would make me smile... --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 03:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Current Updated, love the blur, love the mouth open. Looks as close to a smile as Homestar ever gets - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 04:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;!--Please keep this at the BOTTOM of the thread--&gt;<br /> '''See the main page with:'''<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page1.html '''Current Updated A'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page2.html '''Current Updated B (much closer to the current logo)'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page5.html '''Current Updated C (a cross between Current Updated A and B)'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page3.html '''World'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page4.html '''Current Updated and World ''Blended'''''}}<br /> &lt;!--Please keep this at the BOTTOM of the thread--&gt;<br /> ----<br /> ===Where we are now===<br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;<br /> |- bgcolor=#eeeeee<br /> ! Current !! Current Updated B !! Current Updated C !! Current Updated A<br /> |-<br /> | [[Image:wiki.png|150px]]<br /> | [[Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated_b.gif|150px]]<br /> | [[Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated_c.gif|150px]]<br /> | [[Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated.gif|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;useskin=monobook main page}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page2.html main page}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page5.html main page}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page1.html main page}}<br /> |-<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=japanese_cartoon&amp;useskin=monobook sample article}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/japanese_cartoonB.html sample article}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/japanese_cartoonC.html sample article}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/japanese_cartoonA.html sample article}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Based on the above discussion, it seems clear that there is enough dissatisfaction with the World concept (both the full world and blended versions) from enough users to exclude it from the running. '''Just about everybody would be satisfied with one of the Current Updateds, so we need to focus on narrowing our choice to one of those.'''<br /> <br /> I would be satisfied with any of the updated versions, although I'm still leaning toward '''version B''', and would like to hear if anyone has a specific reason to choose one of them before I make up my mind (for example, maybe one looks more professional). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like '''Current Updated C''' best. It looks good and seems to be a good combination of features that most people like.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree with Loafing, '''Current Updated C''' seems to have the characteristics most users want. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 06:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::'''Current Updated B''' is my favorite; as Thunderbird once said, Homestar just looks more intelligent with his mouth closed. And the guy needs all the help he can get ;) I could live with numba '''C''' though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::'''Currented Updated B''' - the C version's kamikaze lines do not look very straight with his mouth open. The other one covers it up better.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::'''Current Updated C'''. Homestar doesn't need to look &quot;intelligent&quot;... He's Homestar! The mouth open-nes give him a smiling look that is welcome and greeting to new people visitng the site. It's optimistic and I like it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Homestarpedia ==<br /> <br /> Shoot, I would've loved to take part in this discussion/submission process. I would like to submit [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], but it seems like the submission time has already expired. =( I was kind of aloof from the wiki for quite some time with a lot of things going on in my life (and even still), so I wish I would've found out about this sooner! If there is any chance you'll let me submit this yet, let me know, otherwise...shoot, that's life. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 10:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)</div> Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:30:50 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Logo_redesign_2006 http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Logo_redesign_2006 <p>Soapergem:&#32;/**/Homestarpedia</p> <hr /> <div>==Proposed logo discussions==<br /> This is the discussion section for [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006|the 2006 logo proposals]]. Please address the logos in the section with the matching heading title. Click on the heading title to view the logo to which it refers. Please keep comments about logos civil and friendly; you can say you don't like a logo without instigating contention.<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]]===<br /> The strengths of this design are its simplicity and its connection with the [[Intro]]. Aside from its slightly older style, one possible weakness is that by featuring only Homestar, it suggests that he is representative of the H*R body of work as a whole, which over time has grown to revolve around other characters equally or more (well, Strong Bad). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :&lt;s&gt;[http://www.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/wikihrlogo_new.png This one] seems to be just the ticket to me, though I'd like it even more if pixel by pixel the only thing that changed was Homestar. Maybe I'm just too used to the current design. I ''do'' still want the character's latest design in there instead of one that's a year or two old though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;/s&gt;<br /> ::It ''is'' the latest design, only drawn differently. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Oh, so it is. Never mind then. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :What makes this one so strong, and what I think we need to keep in mind with whatever we choose is that it is a logo, it is simple recognizable and easily connected to what it represents. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm kinda tired of this one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I don't see what's wrong with our current logo. It still looks good and works well. I'd personally like to keep it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I see nothing wrong with it either, but I also want a change of pace. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am very sorry - I like many of the submissions I see, I mean, they're all really great. But the current one is the best of them all. If we didn't have a logo now, I'd pick the one we have now. '''''BUT''''' in my opinion, one of the other logos that have been suggested for this wiki would be great to replace the one over at the fanstuff wiki!! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Keep the current one, it reinforces the actual website, is simple and uncluttered, and features Homestar himself.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 02:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The current logo is the better than all of the proposed substitutes. Don't fix what ain't broke! --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 06:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It may not be &quot;broken,&quot; but it does need some touching up. Perhaps you would be happy with Current Updated or Kamikaze Full Body? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Almost Everybody|Almost Everybody]]===<br /> Somebody said they wanted more characters in the logo. I think it was Trey. So I put some more in there as silhouettes in the background. I think it's a very professionally done styled logo. I like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Homestar look a bit off. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Petty attempts at flaming someone else for disliking your logo aren't really smiled upon. Honest, tactful opinions only, please. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I like the two side silhouettes but I'd take out whoever is in the middle. Can't see him anyway. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Lapper, to my knowledge Trogga hasn't made any logos, so far only bleedorange and I have {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::He did the Encyclopedia Style logo above.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::1. I didn't criticize his logo just because he didn't like mine, and 2. that ''was'' honest, tactful opinion. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, no, of course not. Let me find that edit summary... ah, here we are. &quot;It's my turn to bash YOUR logo!&quot; Let me know what you think is &quot;honest and tactful&quot;. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::That wasn't meant to be taken seriously... --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::FYI, sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::''(Sarcastically)'' Sure sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]<br /> :::::::That wasn't sarcasm. (OK, I'll stop.) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I actually like this logo, but can't you fix Homestar? Especially his eyes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::There's actually no difference between this Homestar and the others in my other logos, it's the same one. I've been working with the same PSD file all along. The reason it appears like it to you, most likely, is because the image is surrounded by white. Due to the fact that the logo is darker than most the others. If you copy and paste it into a darker bordered surrounding, it wouldn't look that way as much. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about because I didn't change him at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I see. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure about the characters in the background, I understand the desire to include more of &quot;what H*R.com is about,&quot; but I see this as not being inclusive of the universe while leaning towards becoming too busy to be a LOGO for the wiki - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Blury. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Good concept, and looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't mind this logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::It's blurry on purpose, foreground in focus, background out concept. Not my favorite, I personally vote against this one and I made it! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Basement|Basement]]===<br /> For reasons stated [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], I don't really think SB's basement is really the place to put Homestar Runner. It's more his domain than Homestar's. Which is why I think this logo wouldn't work.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :[[:Image:Wiki logo basement 2.png|just a thought]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Nah, I think if any other character is going to be on the logo, then Homestar should too.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The logo will have to have Homestar on it. There's no way around it. He's the guy.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::If this wasn't &quot;named&quot; basement I think it would take less flack, as this is the design on the walls of TBC's office. I mean it is much of what a logo should be, simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and well connected to what it represents. The patern of this wall is very well recognized as something conected to H*R.com while at the same time showing that this is a seperate entitity from anything TBC created - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Black Background|Black Background]]===<br /> :I like this one head and shoulders above the others, it has a professional look that an encyclopedia should have, and I really like the logo in the background which I feel better represents the H*R universe than any forced inclusion of other characters. Again like &quot;basement&quot; it is simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and easily connected to what it represents - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 18:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't think the black background would go well with this white and colorful website. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]===<br /> <br /> :I kind of enjoy this. Not to much of a change, like the Full Body one. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like this one a lot too, except I think the word &quot;WIKI&quot; should be flattened a bit so that the &quot;W&quot; doesn't look so, pointy. That or maybe a new font entirely (altho this one works well).--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, awexome, though the font could change. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I like this one the best! &amp;mdash; {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:17, 18 November 2006<br /> :::::I like this one, but I think it would be cool if this was combined with the full bodied one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 05:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::DING! You win! I'm glad to see an update of the current logo that's not so bright it actually kind of hurts my eyes in a sitting too close to the TV with the lights off kind of way. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)'''EDIT:''' Though the font still ought to be Bauhaus. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::This, along with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]], is one of my two favorites. I do think that Homestar's mouth should be closed though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I still think this is the way to go. It stays close to the logo that's worked well for us for quite some time while making it look less old-fashioned. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I like this new logo, it stays true to what has worked, plus it's more modernized, evolving along with the characters. Anyway, I think this is the way to (lo)go. --EdgeMaster025<br /> ::::::::::This one stays more true to the original, but is still unique in it's own way. Very well done, so I would say yes to this one.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 06:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Edit Link|Edit Link]]=== <br /> - This idea is supposed to encapsulate some of the idea behind the wiki: a transition between [[The Field]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg the wiki background] (I wanted it to be a smooth, blended transition from the colored field to the washed out grayscale background, but I don't have the tools) and the [&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;edit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;] link you see on wiki section headings. Needs some cleanup though, if it's going to be usable. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Until I read this, I thought that Homestar was standing in a spot right next to [[The King of Town's Castle]] (grass to stone). It just looked like that to me upon first glance, and I wouldn't have given it a second thought if I didn't read this. I think the sudden change is a bit disorientating. If you blended it, however, it might be a smoother logo. Pardon the pun. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::This is definitely the best concept I've seen yet, no doubt. It symbolizes the wiki greatly, but somehow I can't see this becoming a recognizable logo. Maybe it's just the sudden change that strikes me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's a neat idea, but people wouldn't probably get it when they came here for the first time. They'd wonder why Homestar is next to the KOT's castle with Edit written no the wall. lol. I still like the concept, but I can't think of a good way to do it in a small image and it still be a good logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Could you create a mock-up of how this would look if actually applied to the main page? Because I have some slight doubts that it would produce the desired effect. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I can't see this working at all, I understand the idea and it's good as an idea, but as a logo it doesn't seem to fit. Nor does it give recognizeable branding to the site. Very low on my list - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Encyclopedia|Encyclopedia]]===<br /> A bit plain, but symbolizes the idea of a H*R encyclopedia/wiki. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I definitely don't like this idea at all. Text as a logo?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I was going to add Homestar, but MS Paint wouldn't let me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I, also, disagree with the use of this logo. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I still kinda like logo, mainly for text I've chosen. Feel free to improve the idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I don't think anyone would get that it was supposed to be an encyclopedia. They would just see text and go, &quot;what's that supposed to be.&quot; Logos are generally visual. I don't like it because I can't think of a way that this would be appealing.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I was tryin' make a logo like [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page Wiktionary]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I get that one because it uses a pronunciation key (or whatever you call it)... and varying font sizes, etc. Yours just looks like a paragraph from a book. But either way, even if it looked better I don't like the idea. Personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I think the Wiktionary logo is pretty bland. Not what I would have chosen for something as exciting as the HRWiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Hang on. This might be cool in the background behind Homestar... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Even with Homestar, I think it's going to be too busy and not representitive enough to be a logo, but I'm willing to wait and see - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I agree. As a logo alone, it's quite bland, and as a background, it would be distracting. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Text woldn't work. 1.) It's boring. 2.) It wouldn't look right on this backround 3.) it makes no sense. Why couldn't you just put words as the logo. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Having the words as the background isn't such a bad idea. It might be a little distracting, but it might not be as distracting if the words are in faint print. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It would look bad also because Homestar is white and the background is white... a &quot;wash out effect&quot; would happen. It's not a very interesting idea, IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't like this logo at all it would look like part of the page not a logo for the page.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I never really intended this logo to be a real logo; I just wanted to present my idea for a logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Everybody Everybody|Everybody, Everybody]]=== <br /> I made this one fairly quickly, it could use some better-looking text. Ideas, comments? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Very good! WAy better than I could do. So... cool. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It has potential. But like you said, look for some better text. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Seems a little bright to me, might not match with the current background. But as Lapper said, it does have potential. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I really am quite against featuring EVERY major character on the logo. I just think it makes it cluttered plus it's hard to do in a 150x150 spaced area and still look good. They're SO TINY on that image that you can barely see them. To bring them closer where you CAN see them makes it that much harder to put them ALL in there. Do you see where I'm going with this? Homestar by himself or with say the second leading character (Strong Bad) is about as much into this kind of idea of multiple characters as I think we need to get. Because really, it's not like people visiting here are going to not know there are more characters. TBC don't have every character on their main intro page, and the website IS Homestar Runner.com after all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, Homsar's not in it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I have nothing against trying to get more characters into the logo (although I'm against making Strong Bad central), but I agree with BleedOrange that the chances of anything simular to this actually making it so that it's clear and recognizable is slim at best, so with so many options, I vote no to this one fo'sure fo'sure - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#FCUSA Puzzle|FCUSA Puzzle]]===<br /> The logo is a renderation of the wikipedia logo with Free Country on it. It signifies that we continueously build on the Homestar Runner World. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The logo itself isn't bad (but not great either), but I am a bit disturbed by the idea that we &quot;build&quot; on the world of Homestar Runner, because while we look inside that world at things deeper, we're not really adding to the world TBC created in any way really. As far as the logo goes, I like the idea, the logo itself isn't that simple though, or really all that clear. But it is a good general idea for a design focus. The other thing is I'm not entirely sure that using the globe puzzle, a logo should make a &quot;brand&quot; (in this case the site) distinctive from other simular sites, so thats my view on this. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not saying that we're adding to the world of Homestar Runner, I'm saying that as the Homestar Runner universe expands, we add onto the wiki, building on the information of the world of Homestar Runner as more things are divulged. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ok. Makes more sense to me now. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually, I think you should cut out Homestar and the background and put Homestar Runner WikI under it and it'll look like Wikipedia. --[[User:Gert7|Gert7]] 08:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::As Ilko said, we don't want top connect our identity too much to another website. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I really like the &quot;cleanliness&quot; of this logo. The strong black lines around the globe and the kamikaze bg. Although I think it's a little odd of the placement of homestar's head and the font. I still like it and with some work it could be better. I do agree that using the puzzle concept still connects us strongly to wikipedia... and it probably would require (maybe) their permission as well.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think there's too much going on in this one. It's also too close to the Wikipedia logo for my taste.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I agree; too 'busy'. Nice try though. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 01:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Field|Field]]===<br /> I kind of like this one...and the field is a good background for the logo. What about Homestar, SB, and maybe one or two others gathered around the stick? Or maybe that would be too cluttered. Hmm.... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This isn't bad, but the field seems a little non-specific for a logo. Not first place in my book - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think this would be my favorite if it had the kamikaze background. But I see there could be a problem with the lines converging. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I like having The Field as a background. It's a good general representation of the H*R universe. One of my favorites right here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm not a fan of how the text is shown. i don't know, maybe a different font would make it look better, but the fact that it's pushed into the side instead of centered...not fond of it. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 01:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad|Homestar and Strong Bad]]===<br /> :This is a pretty good concept: I like the inclusion of Strong Bad as well as Homestar, since both are equally central to the Homestar Runner body of work. If we end up liking this design, there are some small suggestions I could make, but as an overall design I think it shows great promise. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Not to into this. I like the idea. But not this logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's cool. BUT I don't don't like the blinking. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::The thing I don't like is the font. Dark on dark? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Too too much Strong Bad focus along with color and font issues. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field|Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field]]===<br /> I liked the idea above, but not the logo itself. So I put them in the field. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like a lot of things about this: I like the inclusion of both SB and HR, the foreground/background juxtaposition, and the classic setting of The Field. In my mind, this is a strong candidate. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think it's a very nice logo. I'm using it on my monobook right now. I increased the brightness so it blended better with the Wiki. It looks pretty good on my 'puter and I think it has a lot going for it. Features the two main characters in a classic and common setting for the toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm still happy with the original, but of the prospective future logos, this one is my favorite. Simple but effective. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Also my favorite... I like Homestar coming in from the side, and I love Strong Bad's pose. Excellent. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Very professional looking. Not my personal favorite, but one of my favorites. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> Looking over them all this ''might'' (I'm not sure) be my favorite. It 1) doesn't have just Homestar, 2) has Strong Bad, and 3) looks, well, logolike. I can't quite explain that, but it has a certain logociousness that, say, Weclome Back doesn't. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree with AbdiViklas. This logo looks ''very'' professional and a lot like a logo. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::This one's my favorite and Official Logo Homestar gets second place. This design really does look professional, unlike some that would be more appropriate for the informal fanstuff wiki. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 13:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :While I do think this is above average as a logo for the site (in that it is pretty clean and recognizeable), I don't like that it seems to focus on Strong Bad with Homestar seeming to interupt him, if we go with anything with both involved (which I am very against anywho) it should have Homestar at center and Stongbad in the background and mostly out of frame. Also I think Homestar should have his mouth closed in any logo design, it's just more professional. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::While I hear what you're saying, I'm not sure I understand it: Why do you feel so strongly that it should be just Homestar, or Homestar-centric? (Um, aside from the fact that it's called the &quot;Homestar Runner Wiki&quot;, I supppose.) &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::There are a few ways to look at it: 1) if this is your first experience with the world of Homestar Runner, you would expect the character at the center of the logo to be Homestar Runner. 2) We are Homestar Runner Wiki, and not Homestar and Strong Bad Wiki, while Strong Bad is important to the H*R universe, he is not the &quot;focus&quot; of the site 3) Our logo and thus our &quot;brand&quot; has been Homestar-centric, and thus to remove him from the focus really changes our &quot;brand&quot; and I'm not sure thats needed. <br /> All of this is comes back to the same thing you said, our name is Homestar Runner Wiki, and our logo should represent either the entirety of the website, or the character for which the site we're a wiki about was named. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 02:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :To me, it looks more like Strong Bad's in the background, while Homestar is closer to the viewer. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Which is what it's supposed to look like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar in Front of Logo|Homestar in Front of Logo]]===<br /> This is a simple redesign, but design is different than others in a way that its so unoriginal, its original. Think about it.--{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thought about it. No, I don't like it. Not clean enough or clear enough to be a recognizable branding (logo) for the wiki. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah...it sucks...I should've asked someone to help me design it. {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar STAR|Homestar STAR]]===<br /> A cool idea I had. I can do lots of things with this idea, but this is the general concept. He could blink, the star's contrast could be less... his could be more... etc. etc. I accidently flattened a layer while making it, so it was impossible to further change the star's outline. So I'd have to redo it if it was picked to change that part... that or edit a new outline over the current. Anyway. Here's the concept. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :My initial reaction is I like it alot as is. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 02:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I like this one a lot. I think this, Kamikaze Full Boyd, World or the Current Updated are the best designs. While I'm still trying to figure out my top favorite, this is definitely one of them.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::In case anyone cares, these are some alternate versions of the STAR logo. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hstar2.png 1] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hstar1.png 2]. Neither of which I like more than the original I submitted. But thought I'd mention it anyway.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Jokestar Runner|Jokestar Runner]]=== <br /> <br /> It's dot Joey! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This logo would be perfect! Unfortunately, I don't think we could get permission to use that picture from TBC ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Since when do we ask TBC for persmission to use pictures? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Actually. that's the next project after the logo redesign: send TBC individual emails about each image on the wiki asking for their permission to use them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Funny! Funny. That...is a joke, right? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yep &amp;mdash; it's a joke :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Have TBC given any indication that they &lt;b&gt;want&lt;/b&gt; us to do that? If they email one of you and said that they'd prefer for us to get permission to use their images, then ok, we respect their wishes. &lt;b&gt;But&lt;/b&gt; since we've been at this for half a decade and if they haven't complained, then I would consider it a severe annoyance to email them about every image. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 02:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::See above :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Actually, we've only been at this for three years. Point still taken, though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's dot... Jeoy? Don't you mean Joey? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :&lt;goes and looks&gt; What the..yeah, you're right! I guess that just slipped everyone's mind! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's okay; if we pick this one, we can make the correction ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You seriously need to stop being sarcastic. But...did you make this logo? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::He wasn't being sarcastic, Brightstar. The logo itself was meant as a joke, and so you really shouldn't take the discussion in this section too seriously ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yeah, sorry about the dumb jokes; they're not ill-meant. And Invisible Robot Fish made this one. :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I realized that right after I saved my edit. Darn. Oh, and Loafing, I know it's a joke. I was gonna put a smiley after that first sentence, but that would've made 6 (now 7) smilies in this disscussion topic. But just because I can...&lt;(^_^)&gt; ^(^_^)&gt; &lt;(^_^)&gt; &lt;(^_^)^ ^(^_^)^ YAAAYY! *ahem* Remind me never to do that again. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Kamikaze Full Body|Kamikaze Full Body]]===<br /> This is like the idea with the logo but without. It's my personal favorite. I think it is the best example of what the new logo should be like. Similar to before but with a refreshing twist.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If this section symbolizes [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|18, 24, and 25]] as a whole, I vote for No Logo Homestar style. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah that's what I meant for this section to symbolize.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Then yeah, all for this. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I really like this one. Simple, but updated. Not too much going on, but newer.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 05:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Heck yeah! [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|24]] is my favorite. I think this is the style we should go with, personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::This version of the logo is my personal fave. The old background with the new Homestar. Because he's what the site is all about and don't you forget it! If you try to bring other character to the logo, some (like me) will complain why you left out that other character. Blinking or not, I don't care. but I want '''this one'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Would prefer a more strait redesign of the current if we went this route, but it's ok - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I almost like this one. The only thing I dislike is the white outline around Homestar. It's too thick. I would like it is it were fading into the blue like the current logo. Also, I dislike the crampedness of the words &quot;Homestar Runner&quot;. Maybe if Homestar were further down a little, and the words were a little bigger. I don't know. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Between this one and the current one, I think the current one is better. It's simpler, more visible, and Homestar looks (and is) more intelligent with his mouth closed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I agree with all others who have this as their favorite. It's a subtle, yet powerful change that is just what this wiki needs. It keeps the simplicity of the old logo, but with a twist. Pretty awesome. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I agree as well. This logo is just what everyone is used to, but updated.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}}<br /> ::::::::::This one's definitely my favourite too. I've got it set as my logo in [[User:Loafing/monobook.css]] for over a week now, and I'm pretty happy with it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> There doesn't seem to be much disapproval for this logo. I still think it's better than any of the others. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Argh, the white blur! It burns my eyes! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I fixed the lines behind Homestar. They are no longer crooked.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I'm leaning towards this one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 06:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Kamikaze Full Body Blurred====<br /> I decided to make the background out of focus. Here's what it looks like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think this is quite a bit better than the regular Kamikaze Full Body. I'll go for this. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's okay, but can you please lessen the white glow around Homestar? Make it less intense, like the current logo. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I like this one. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ok guys. I listened to you. I, get ready for this, REMOVED that white outline and made it more of a transparent glow. It does look better I think. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/kamikaze_new.png VIEW UPDATED BLURRED LOGO WITH NEW TRANSPARENT GLOW] - also, I made an experimental alteration that probably was a bad idea, but here [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/kamikaze_new1.png it is anyway].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::First new one is good. Second, not so good Al. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yeah, the first new one is better. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Lappy|Lappy]]===<br /> This one is interesting and the lettering is pretty nice, I think, but the animation will probably lose it's novelty after a while and annoy some users. I have nothing against animation (like homestar blinking) but not as constant as this. Maybe a static version could be used? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I don't like the cursor blinking either. But I do like the concept. I can make strong bad in it too ya know. It's just the idea. I can take away/add to it. It's best to leave it as one character though, for the reasons that this image is too small for too much more to be going on in it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Good concept, the design as a whole doesn't seem to quite hit me as a &quot;recognizeable logo&quot; but it's again something that could be worked with I think, better than alot of options in my eyes, but still not the best - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::The blinking is kind of distracting. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Agreed. To me, all the animations are distracting. A simple and easy to remember logo is what I'm going for. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Weighed against the other (and now better) ideas. I don't like this one much anymore. Blinking, stationary or uhh.. blinking. It's nice, but not nice enough to be the WIKI logo IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I like the concept, and the design but it's too... non-logoish (as stated by Ilko). Still, it's well done.[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo Homestar|Official Logo Homestar]]===<br /> Summarizing the objections from [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], including the official logo in ours may cross an ethical boundary. Despite this, I think this is an example of a way to broaden the scope of our logo from Homestar the character to the Homestar Runner body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The black one above, does a better job of being a logo for the wiki, as I concur that this makes us seem a little too connected to H*R.com and TBC.<br /> ::I would like it better if the logo was in front of Homestar. With him in front, it's hard to read what the logo says. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::His star is supposed to be replacing the one in the logo, if I'm getting this right. Instead of this: h*r It's this: h/*\r Get it? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|Official Logo with Green Wiki]]===<br /> Looks GWEAT. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :A branding issue with this one. Makes us seem way too connected with the official world of Homestarrunner.com. We need to be sure to keep our brand distinct from TBCs as while this site wouldn't exist otherwise, we are completely seperate and not connected in any way, thus our logo needs to represent that. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I just don't see how using the official logo in our logo is any different than using Homestar in our logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::A definition of a logo(edited from Wikipedia): &quot;A logo is a graphic element or icon of a trademark or brand. A typical logo is designed to cause &lt;B&gt;immediate recognition&lt;/B&gt; by the viewer. The logo's shapes, colors, fonts and images are usually different from others in a similar market.&quot; Thus to use the official logo of Homestarrunner.com as the main focus of our logo is to give the impression that we are part of that brand, which we are not. This is also part of the reason I think we shouldn't stray too far from the logo we already have (Homestar-centric as someone called it). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Very well put.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> This, is, actually the ''first'' suggested logo change, taken from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 2]] at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]'s request. I think it's well crafted. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'll concur that this is a GREAT logo, everything I'd want in a logo if it was my company (simple, easily identifiable, very well connected to the subject represented, presenting a positive and professional image.) Yet, the branding issue is a major problem, there's unfortunately (at least in my mind) no real way to get around it, to make enough changes to avoid potential trademark infringement (or at least intellectual property infringement if it's not a trademarked logo) we'd be cheapening our brand to that of a cheap rip-off of an original (see lots of store brand sodas or &quot;fake&quot; watches and jewelry brands.) Also I stand by the fact that to move too far from what the logo we've got now is not just changing our logo, but rebranding our entire effort, which I do not see as being something we need right now. (If we had changed our mission or our way of operating or something else then yes, we should look at rebranding ourselves, but we haven't.) As is, the only reason to update the wiki logo seems to be that we want to modernize to better represent the subject of the site and just to look more &quot;current&quot; with the times. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I won't mention the H*R logo problem. We've heard plenty of that. But I will say that I definitely don't like the green &quot;Wiki&quot; font. For some reason, the green with the red and blue or the regular H*R logo makes me think of this logo like a kid's toy or something. I just don't like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I think I definitely like this one best. Less is more. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}<br /> Can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about this one I like and dislike at the same time (sorry, wasting space) [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like it. It shows how we relate so closely to h*r.com and how the wiki credits everything to the h*r.com website![[User:Jmoney|-Jmoney]] 00:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === [[HRwiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old Homestarrunner|Old Homestar]] ===<br /> I made this logo with paint (so excuse me for the bad picture) of the Old Homestarrunner standing next to a light green oval with the text HRWiki and standing in front of a white background. - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]<br /> <br /> :[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!]] No. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::To be less blunt than The Mu, it needs work. Lots and lots of work. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I said it was made with paint. P.S can i try one more time? - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]<br /> ::No, I don't think so. The submission time has expired, but you &quot;could&quot; make alterations to it and see what everyone thinks. But now is a little late anyway. Sorry. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old New Star|Old New Star]]===<br /> I'm not sure how much this crosses the boundaries of too much. But I thought it'd be kind of neat if the logo could switch back and forth between the original design for Homestar and the current. The one in the example above is set for 15 second intervals. But I made a [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew30.gif 30 second] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew60.gif 60 second] one as an example. The 15 second is just so you don't have to wait around forever to see it. The 30 or 60 is the actual timer I think it should have. Most people would see it as it is. Just a regular logo, those who stick around for awhile might notice it changed. They'd be like, wait a second... wasn't that a diff. Homestar? It will loop back and forth every 30 or 60 seconds from the original design to the current. It's not a very big file size either. Only around 20 kb.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like the still image of Homestar (current) in front of the old star, but I don't like the animation. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::No matter what is decided, I think that this will deserve a paragraph in [[A_History|our history]] once we all decide. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I basically copied the way TBC animated it. So, uhm, what are you saying man! You don't like TBC's animation!?! lol. And yeah, this is pretty historical. Err, hysterical. Hysterically long.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::TBC rarely morph between Homestars if ever. I don't like the looking of going from old to new, it looks rough and abrupt. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Go look at Strongest Man in the world... that's where it's from. I did take out two frames of the animation to get file size down, but otherwise I did it exactly how they did. It doesn't have to be animated either. This is a '''DESIGN IDEA''', it's for the design itself, not just the animation. I can make it stationary too. I kind of like it more stationary anyway. Although I had to animate it. You say TBC never morph between them, but that's not the point. The point is that it morphs between them so sometimes it's the original design and sometimes it is not. It's supposed to be abrupt. I could make it .. fade.. into the other but I promise that wouldn't look as good. How do YOU think it should be animated if you don't like it. Got any ideas? :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Now I made another version where he just blinks (NO MORPHING)... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hsnewstar_blinks.gif stationary - just blinks]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Bleed, you really don't need to get this defensive. You are doing some fine work here but not everyone is going like everything that you do. As I stated above, I like this one stationairy like the link that you post immediately above. Keep up the good work. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not a big fan of the multi-homestar options, we're an encylopedia, not just a history textbook, also this one strikes me as a little too much like something that would be on the website, and we should keep arms length from that in my mind. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: First of all, IRF, I'm NOT getting defensive. I don't know what you got out of what i said, but I didn't take offense. I wanted it to be CLEAR that this is an idea for a logo and it does not have to morph, blink or do anything at all than be a stationary image. Which is why I pointed out &quot;design idea,&quot; and I could go on defending what I said but the point is I wasn't offended at all. I asked how he thought it should be animated because I'd actually like to hear some new ideas if you don't like something. Don't just say, oh well I don't like this... why not say what you would like as well? Anything I say on here is me trying to make clear either WHY I did something one way or that it's just an IDEA and I welcome more. Or I wouldn't continue to keep making logos. And, Skev, I don't see a reason why we should keep away from something that would be on the website. Just because Homestar is standing in front of a star isn't a big deal. I could have him stand in front of a field, kamikaze blue rays or a million other things... but it will all be derived from something on the site. The current logo is like something you would see on the site. So that's my thoughts on this. Oh and I also made a transparent version of the logo. See [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/star.gif this link here for transparent version of the logo]. That's it for now!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I changed the animation, it's a lil smoother now. I think. 20 second interval.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Once again, the animation could be distracting. I'm all in favor of a still image, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]]===<br /> This is an interesting logo. You can't really see the characters underneath the puzzle design, which only represents one part of the wiki (the lots of different article &quot;pieces&quot; part). So it's overshadowing the main concept here, even though I must admit that the logo itself looks really awesome. Oh, and I [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_15#Just_Kinda_Wonderin.27...| totally called the slogan]]. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I think this one's pretty cool, and very professional-looking. The only flaw is that it's a little hard to see the details on the pieces when it's logo-sized... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like this one as a logo, but due to the problems mentioned above, it should not be the main branding logo of the site, if we were a company, I would highly recomend this as a secondary informal logo (for backgrounds, stationary, art, immaging) , so as much as I LOVE this one in every way shape and form, for our purposes, *sigh* - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I really love it. I hope this is the new logo. -Nintendokinz<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Running Intro|Running Intro]]===<br /> <br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Then and Now|Then and Now]]===<br /> I like this particular new idea because... quite honestly, it's going to be very hard to get multiple characters with-in the small logo and have them large enough to visibly see in a nice way. Homestar is, technically, the main character and alone can represent the toon itself... which is why he is on the main pages on the official site. This idea shows how far H*R has come from old to new, and is themed around the original book. Which is always nice. :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like that one, except It seems a little simplistic. Maybe the Homestars could be moved up a little, and have the lettering the same as either the one we have now, the star themed one, or the darker outline one? {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah I could do that. But I was trying to copy the way TBC actually did it on the book. I could make it show all of both Homestar's bodies.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I think maybe we could do half old half new (i.e. the old field and homestar on one side new field and homestar on the other)? Just a thought.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Don't think much of this both for the reasons mentioned in the &quot;field&quot; and in &quot;then and now&quot; - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like it. But, I don't like the possition of &quot;the homestar runner wiki.&quot; {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Weclome Back|Weclome Back]]===<br /> One aspect that I like about this one is that by including multiple characters, it better represents that this is the Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon) Wiki, and not the Homestar Runner (character) Wiki. I'm interested in seeing other logos that incorporate multiple characters or perhaps just Homestar and Strong Bad. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like the [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink2.gif blinkage style]--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::If Homestar is blinking, shouldn't Marzi blink too? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Marzi does blink.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink.gif I like this one the best.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This is too busy for a logo, it isn't something that will be easily connected to the wiki itself in my mind, and it's just really busy. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::What do mean &quot;busy?&quot; --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/busy &quot;Full of distracting detail&quot;], probably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::This one's pretty good, except the text is kinda hard to read. Other than that, good logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Just to clear things up, I'm pretty sure the [[The King Of Town|KOT]], [[Marzipan|Marzi]], and [[Homestar]] all blink in this logo. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The King never blinks. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I swear I saw his eyes move...--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Wiki_Globe|Wiki Globe]]===<br /> I realize that I am not the best graphic designer in the world, but I think that the general idea comes across. The faces need a little bit more work to &quot;sync&quot; better with the globe, and Homestar's face may need to be a little more prominent. Besides that, this is pretty much the concept. I'm not sure if the Wikipedia logo can be used like this, but I don't see why not. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :While it's a nice idea, this would make us look affiliated with 'Kipedia. Some folks are already confusing us as it is, and I don't think we should enforce that perception. I strongly prefer an independent logo of our own.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::In answer to your last sentence, Ation, this kind of falls under the discussions above about using the H*R logo as part of our own. (I.e. might not be okay, and even if it's okay, maybe not desirable.) Although I wouldn't be nuts about this as a logo, I ''do'' think it's awesome. (This, by the way, is what I immediately thought of when I saw &quot;Puzzle&quot;.) &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::On the subject of whether this would be allowed, I suggest you look at [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] &amp;ndash; though that was about [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], and we'd have to ask them again if we chose this logo, I expect we'd get a similar response. Personally, I agree with Loafing, the line between us and Wikipedia already seems muddied enough, to new users... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Agree with the above comments. Nonetheless, it does look really cool! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :In addition to the Wikipedia issues, we are not Strong Bad Wiki. You're not doing any favors to first time visitors with this one. We need to make sure the logo represents what we're about to someone with no idea who we are (or maybe even Homestar is). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I made some changes to the logo. Mostly, changes the globe from Strong Bad's head to Homestar's hat, rearranged faces, and &quot;coolified the letters&quot;. People think it's better or worse? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Much better, but many of the issues from above still are in play - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]===<br /> I made a brand new logo that I think works very well. Everyone's opinion is always different but I like it. For one thing, it incorporates a globe behind Homestar... we're like an encyclopedia to the world about Homestar Runner, many people using the Wiki are from all around the globe. This shows that. It uses the fictional globe in which Free Country, USA exists, so it also doubles as a symbol of the HR world. Homestar is standing there. Obviously. And it stands out from most of the other ideas, the website itself and is very different from the original logo. I made a few different colors for the background. A grey, blue and brown one. I tried other colors and trust me, they don't look as good.<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey.png Grey]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue.png Blue]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Brown.png Brown]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Grey Blinks]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue_Bl.gif Blue Blinks]<br /> *[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Brown Blinks]<br /> And just in case you are wondering how it would look ON the wiki. I made a GIF image that cycles between them as an example. It's low quality, but it gives you the idea. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/exampleworld.gif Example of Logo on the Wiki Itself]. I am a big fan of either the '''Grey''' or '''Blue''' ones. I don't like the Brown so much. And I'd actually prefer it to be stationary, but I made some that blink too. I could always make the blink times less or more. Anyway, what do you think?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 20:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Due to requests.. I changed the main idea to a lighter colored background. Which I like better too. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/lightergrad.png VIEW UPDATED IDEA HERE]. And if we wanted to change the favicon, it could always be the image of the globe itself without homestar in front of it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::That new one is very cool, although I don't really like how his shadow is going to the right, as if the light is coming from the right. It sort of conflicts with the shadow that TBC already put there. If you removed the spotlight, that would make it perfect. (He's floating a little too. You might want to remove the shadow below him.) I wouldn't really like shading in the logo at all, if nessicary, because you want it to seem like it's looking straight at you. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Per your requests.. I removed the shadow on Homestar (agreed it contradicts the established shadow, though I could move it to the other direction). [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_somechanges.png View Some Changes on the logo]. How's that?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I think that it looks great now, nice and slick. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I like it... a lot. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: I changed the direction of the shadow, and did one without the shadow... changing the way Homestar faces to being the right. Take a look [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/World_shadowleft.png With Shadow Facing Right] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_noshadow.png Without Shadow Facing Right].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::It still seems a little weird to me with the shadow, now it's conflicting the world's shadow. (Plus, Homestar's a little off center). I do think that the one without the shadow is great. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Corrected some problems with the one where he faces right with no shadow. (I made the other side of the globe darker on accident) [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/facerightnoshad.png View Corrected One Here].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Well, this gets my vote. It cooooool. It reallyhas nothing to do with the wiki exept for the homestar. But alright. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> AWSOME! Go with it guys! -[[Strong Badman]] The day before Thanksgiving @ 9pm<br /> <br /> I love this one. Probably my second favorite. Good representation of the Homestar universe. Not too simple, not too busy. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Can you make Homestar blink in that logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Having Homestar blink would probably mess up all the awesome gradiants Bleed0range has in there, so it would probably be messy (and impractical) to make him blink. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Good point. The awesome gradients of this logo would match the awesome gradients of the Main Page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::The Kamikaze full body is no longer my personal fave. This one is definitely my personal favorite of them all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I agree. This one is very awesome. Except, the gradient mixed with the world's shadow. Maybe getting rid of the world's shadow would help? (Curse those shadows! They always seem to get the best of you!) - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Nah, I think the gradient around the globe is necessary. It makes it look nicer than without. I tried it without and I didn't think it looked very good. The gradient is what helps give the globe a three dimensional feel. Things can have multiple shadows. Getting rid of the world's shadow would be a very difficult photoshop edit that would require a lot lot lot of time and probably not even look very good. I tried increasing the brightness... that didn't work. I'd have to piece it together using like the clone stamp tool or something which... *sigh* would take forever and like I said, probably look awful.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Even with this logo, which looks fine, I still firmly believe in the 18/24/25 version. But then, it's a personal choice that I'm going for minimal change here. I just want to preserve the integrity of our original logo as much as possible, and I don't feel any of these other logos fulfill that. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Holy crap this one is way better than the full body logo I totally change my vote to this one like Bleed0range {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 20:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> While I don't see what's wrong with our current logo, this is probably my favorite of the new ones. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :This one is very good, and I think it would look awesome with a transparent background (much in the same way [[Wikipedia:Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png|Wikipedia's logo]] lays on top of the page). We can discuss these details more if we end up picking this logo, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I do like this one. It does very little to mess with the current branding of the site and organization while updating the logo to something that feels more &quot;modern&quot;. It is fairly simple to recognize, exclusive to this site, and makes good conections to what we're about here at the wiki. It makes my top 5 (behind Homestar STAR and Current Updated, and along with Basement and Puzzle) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, this one has a lot of potential as a transparent logo. It wouldn't even have to be saved as a real transparent GIF or, in its case, alpha-blended PNG (due to the shadow), since its place on the page is static; we can just insert that portion of the page background underneath it and flatten it. But the globe and shadows would have to be tweaked so that the shadows don't &quot;run&quot; outside the 150×150 space allotted. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree with Joshua completely. If the logo must be changed, please let it be to this one. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::This one is my favorite. The only thing that I don't like is the font. If we are selecting a new logo, why not a new font? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I like this one. It's pretty cool. Though I DO agree that the font needs to be changed....<br /> ::I heard that it would look nice if this image were transparent. SO, now it is. In fact, I made two versions. One is transparent and animated (the blinking) and the other is just the older version but now it's transparent. Here are the updated logos. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/World_Transparent_Animated.gif VIEW ANIMATED TRANSPERENT WORLD LOGO] or [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/World_Transparent_NonAnimat.gif VIEW NON-ANIMATED TRANSPERENT WORLD LOGO]. Test them out on your monobook to see if they look good or not. Oh, and for those who don't know how to use their monobook (or your just lazy), I took a screenshot of it on the main page... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/Example_Of_Logo_On_Wiki_MainPage.jpg Check it out].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 19:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::This, along with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current_Updated|Current Updated]], is one of my two favorites. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I think this is a new step and looks very origanal and suits well as a new logo for the wiki. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==&lt;s&gt;Other ideas&lt;/s&gt; (submission time expired)==<br /> &lt;s&gt;Do you have a great logo idea but not the graphic design tools to make it yourself? Post your idea here, and someone may try to make it.&lt;/s&gt;<br /> <br /> ===AhnbergHand===<br /> Another suggestion, which in no way discounts my support for the current logo with Homestar's current design, is [http://www.hrwiki.org/logoright/logo.php]. Perhaps one of those images? I especially like the one in AhnbergHand. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Wiki Bowl===<br /> Maybe A big star in the background with &quot;Homestar Runner&quot; in a arch and &quot;Wiki&quot; in a bowl like shape with Homestar and Strong Bad's Head {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Main Page Message===<br /> Look, I got an idea of a logo that I can't make, cause I neither have the template I need nor the font I need. How about a logo that looks like the Main Page message thingy that says &quot;Homestar Runner Wiki&quot;?.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]<br /> <br /> ==Favicon==<br /> <br /> There have been strong objects to using anything a logo that [[:Image:Logo Redesign Official Logo Homestar.png|resembles]] [[:Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png|the]] [[:Image:Logo Redesign Old New Star.gif|offical]] [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner site logo]]. Here is a [[:Image:Official_style_logo.png|screen print]] of the QOTW page. You will notice 4 times where we've used the official h*r logo. #'s 2, 3, and 4 can be argued as legit because they do link the official site, &lt;b&gt;but&lt;/b&gt; #1 (the icon at the top which also appears in your bookmarks) doesn't have anything to do with the official but our site. I propose that if so many people feel that we shouldn't be using the h*r logo, we also shouldn't be using it in the address bar of the browser. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, the favicon doesn't stick out as much as the logo, and as you said, the rest are links to the official site. If we adopted the Homestarrunner logo as our logo, I think that that would just be intense copycatting. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Although I certainly don't see any reason that, once we get done with this, we don't turn our attention to a new favicon. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Definitely. We already addressed this briefly at the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive 7#favicon|original discussion]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :What's a favicon? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::A [[Wikipedia:Favicon|favicon]] is what IRF circled a 1) in his screenshot.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ah, I see. But that'll probably just change with whatever logo we end up picking, right? What's the use of having a logo and a favicon that look completely different from each other? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I guess that's hard to answer until we've picked one, but the size differences might matter. A favicon has to be able to look good and be recognizable in very small dimensions. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::The favicon has doesn't match our current logo so it doesn't logically follow that it would change too. I think the onyl reason that it would change is all the recent discussion about the official logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical not to change the favicon after the discussion about the official logo not being used in the logo. The favicon uses the H*R logo, which, according to many user's opinion's here, would be immoral. If you can't use it in the logo, then you shouldn't be able to associate the official logo with any other part of the Wiki itself, including the favicon. So I think it HAS to be changed if the majority of user's believe you can't use the H*R logo in the Wiki logo. I'd find it hard to argue that point.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::So everybody stop talking and make something. It need not match whatever we go with for our big logo. Also, we will use variations of it at the fanstuff and forum, so keep that in mind. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Idc, I tried for an hour last friday to find the actual graphic for the favicon, so that I could study it in terms of dimensions, pixel size, and how it look when enlarged. If I could find the graphic file, I would be glad to propose favicons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::The file is at [http://www.hrwiki.org/favicon.ico favicon.ico] for nearly all websites. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::The image displayed by most browsers is 16&amp;times;16 pixels. Ideas do not need to be in any particular format. We'll handle the technical details of converting it and whatnot. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Some ideas are as follows. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/homestar.jpg Homestar's Head] looks nice as an icon. Also, [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/homestar2.jpg With a background color] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/starshirtico.jpg starshirt red]. It's rather difficult to accomplish written text in a 16x16 space, these are the most legible and pleasing designs I could come up with.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I like the idea of the favicon matching the logo in style. If we pick either of my two favorite logos, [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current_Updated|Current Updated]] or [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current_Updated|World]], then I would suggest that we use for the favicon Homestar's head against the blue Kamikaze background or Homestar standing against the globe, respectively (no words in either case). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Trey I'm not sure that you realize how hard that is to do in 16x16. I'm surprised that we can read hrw in our current favicon. I tried to make a few but even the simple were very non-readable. If we are to make a favicon that matches the logo that will have to be on talented dude or dudett. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, I had actually done a couple ''very'' rough mock-ups before I posed the above comment; and while they looked small, those things ''always'' look small, unless you have an exceedingly simple graphic... I hear you though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::How about just a W a-la Wikipedia, but in the same font of the chosen logo? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Quick question/suggestion ==<br /> <br /> I realize I'm getting into this pretty late in the game, but I have a quick question: Is there any particular reason we can't have the main logo be a random image chosen from a list of several favorites, such that each time the user loads an HRWiki page, the logo is one of the favorite images? This would give the Wiki a slightly more dynamic look. Just an idea. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That's certainly possible, although there is currently no mechanism in place to achieve such a thing. However, I believe one logo would better serve to establish our identity. Also, individual users can always customize their personal monobooks. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No, that would be a bad idea. The logo is the only big symbol that appears on every page on the wiki. Visitors need to be able to easily find out that they are indeed on an HRWiki page. Having more than one logo would make this confusing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Okay, so which one should we choose? ==<br /> <br /> A lot of these are very interesting and creative ideas. Kudos to all who have participated so far. Now we need to talk about which one, if any, to actually choose. Note: this is not a vote, it's a discussion, in which we will hopefully reach a consensus. During this process we may simply choose something from the project page, or we might revise or combine various ideas. I'll get the ball rolling: the original mandate was to update, rather than completely replace, the logo. While I certainly like many of the designs, I would be satisfied with the [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] design. It would give us a more modern look without straying too far from our current design, and I think the close-up of Homestar is better than half-body or full-body shots. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like the [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] design as well, but I'd be happy keeping the [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]] design as well. This is our logo, it's the way it's looked for a while and a bit of a freshening is good, but an alltogether change would be too drastic.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I concur with Dot com. [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] is good for me, and for basically the same reasons he's given. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I would be equally happy with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]] and [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]. The former, for all the reasons above, and about the latter, I think it looks professional enough, and perhaps the presence of the FCUSA globe helps extend the scope of the logo beyond Homestar Runner the character to the greater Homestar Runner Universe. Or perhaps I'm full of crap. At any rate, it would look cool with a transparent background laying on top of the other background. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I like both [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]] &amp; [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|the green wiki one]], if I can have a say in this. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Of course you can. It's dot wiki! Anyways, I prefer [[HRWiki:Logo_redesign_2006#Kamikaze_Full_Body|Kamikaze Full Body]] &amp;mdash; I've been using it as the logo in my css for weeks now &amp;mdash; and I'd also be happy with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]. For the reasons I've already said before, I wouldn't want to use anybody other's logo, such as the puzzle idea or the official h*r logo.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::World, Weclome Back, Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field, and FCUSA Puzzle are my favorites. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I honestly think that world is no doubt the best-looking one. It also has the same degree of talent put into it as the current one, by which I mean it has an expert use of flash. The current updated image is a very high-quality image, just as the world image is. Yet I think that we need to go beyond subtle changes to get the potential that the world image offers. [[User:69.162.199.33|69.162.199.33]] 22:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I hate to be repititious, but both Current Updated and World are my two favorites as well. Also, I like Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field, but if I had to pick one (which I do), Current Updated would be my choice. Just don't make him blink. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Ditto to Tom. My sentiments exactly. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I suppose I could live with [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]], as it fits my basic subjective qualities for a good logo. And yes, like It's dot com said, this is better because it's an update, rather than a replacement. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::It seems a waste to dispose of all the cool, new, and different logo ideas that came up and just settle on a simple update. I have no problem with Current Updated, but in retrospect, this could have been dealt with in much less time if we had thought about what we really ''wanted'' first. But I guess this whole ordeal kind of gave us that answer, so I'll shut up now and just root for the aforementioned. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::Nothing has been a waste. A decision such as this should ''not'' move quickly, and it is good to have a lot of choices. If we do go with Current Updated, it will be because we compared all the options and still decided a modest update was better than a more radical change. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::I know I should have said this when we were still talking about the individual logos, but I now found out that I don't really like the World one because it uses an old piece of animation. That planet was made only to be seen in the theme song (and Main Page 1) and for me it now represents the older, less mature style of the site. Although it's the wiki's way of imagining how FCUSA looks like, we don't really know if it is. If a new, made in the current animation toon would pop up with a new vision of FCUSA, it will be embarrassing for the whole wiki.<br /> :::::::::::::That's why I choose '''Kamikaze Full Body''' as our logo. It is similar to our current one, but taking a step backward to see the whole picture, the full Homestar Runner experience. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::I understand where your coming from E.L. Cool, but TBC haven't updated the look of FCUSA yet nor do we have any evidence they will, therefore it is still current. What is less mature about a globe anyway? If they do re-design it, it would be a very easy job of changing the globe to an updated design. I made multiple new ideas because of a few reasons. One reason is that change is good, and this wiki has matured and I think the logo should as well. MY original statement was to mearly update the logo. Nobody included the current updated designs &quot;I&quot; made on this selection page, even though they were part of the original discussion in Da Basement. I thought they were not included because the first option &quot;Current&quot; was supposed to stand for all variations of the current design. I thought everyone was (at least at one time) gung-ho for the idea of a completely new logo. '''My pick is the world logo.''' I like everything the WORLD logo stands for. I think it's good looking, has an encylopedic look and shows how we people from all over the world contribute to this wiki. It's not just a globe of FCUSA, FCUSA merely is there to give us a H*R themed version of Earth. It's a symbol of what the wiki IS in the first place. Furthermore, I'm a little dissapointed that after all the many logo submitions and the (nearly 70) different logos I made we just want to update the look of the original with an out of focus background and change Homestar's mouth to being open? I have this slight feeling that many of you are afraid of the change, that your just used to the old style and really do not want to change it at all. I personally do not see the new current updated as much of an improvement on the original design. I actually like it less after putting it in my monobook, especially the font. So if you guys want to keep the original design, I think we should just keep the original design. It was my error that the version of Homestar on the CURRENT logo is actually the CURRENT style Homestar is drawn in. It was just drawn differently for the logo. That should be made loud and clear so people understand that. I also really like the star logo I made, but that doesn't seem to be much of a crowd pleaser.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::After thinking it over. I could live with the Current Updated if that were picked. But I still think the font needs to be changed.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::You've made several points here, and I'm sure I can't answer them all, but I have thoughts about a few of them. First, I think it's okay that many of us are reluctant to drastically change the logo. In a lot of ways, a logo is like a username &amp;mdash; a username is a symbol of a wiki user, and if you change it, you have to do a lot of work to rebuild the reputation you've built under the old name. Likewise, the logo is a symbol of the wiki as a whole, and if you change it, you intrinsically lose something. Everytime a casual user loads a page, they no longer see the familiar stamp of approval in the corner indicating that they're on the Homestar Runner Wiki. Now, I'm exaggerating and being cheesy here for emphasis, but my point is that unless there's a very strong choice for a logo that the community as a whole feels represents them, then it may be better to stick with the familiar symbol.<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Now, I think everyone here greatly appreciates all the work that went into all the logo designs, many of which you created. But even if none of them is chosen as the final logo, the project as a whole has been served in that the community has seen a host of options that has helped them become conscious of what is important to them as a representative symbol. And while a particular logo may not be chosen as the final product, it's very likely that some aspects of it (e.g., blinking, style, etc.) may be incorporated into the final design. All this being said, I still think that World would be an awesome choice if the community as a whole agrees. So, thanks Bleed0range, for all the work you've put into this project &amp;mdash; one way or another, it will have had a major influence on the final choice. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Awww, shucks. Thanks Trey. Anyway. I understand what your saying. I knew that all along. But the Wiki will still be the wiki no matter what is in the corner. My opinion is, if we change it, we might as well ''change'' it. It's been very hard to get away from the kamikaze type design, so I guess that shows that most users would prefer it that way. I am currently using the Transparent, Stationary World logo and it looks awesome IMO. I know that seems biased since I made it, but I really do like it and regardless I may keep it in my monobook if not chosen.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::We still have to remember that we're not doing this entirely for ourselves. Think of the new visitors to the site, and what they will think of the logo. We want something that will strike out at them, yet not be repetitious after time. Ours right now pretty much furfills that, but I think that it's kind of weak, and that current updated could give a new edge to it that everyone will like, if they're new or not. However, changing the logo to something completely different wouldn't be that bad either, because we will get used to it after a while, and if a new user comes in, it will make an impression that this is a very professional place. So I think that if we agree on a logo better than current design, it shouldn't stop us from using it. Personally, I'm leaning towards World, Current Design, Homestar STAR, or Homestar and Strong Bad in a field. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::::The Joe has a point; it isn't just for everyone who's been staring at the logo so long that they're sick of it. It's to benefit everyone in the community, and not in it. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::::Current Updated is my favorite. It looks fresh, but doesn't stray too far from what we have. Sure it's supposed to be a &quot;''re''design&quot;, but in my opinion (please don't shoot me) many of the suggestions that are too unlike the current look tacky. As The Joe said, we want something that will catch the attention of visitors. But I also think of what the opinions of &quot;regular&quot; visitors and new users might be (mainly because I'm down there with them ;) ). I want something that looks new, but not ''too'' different. &amp;mdash; {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 18:27, 28 November 2006<br /> <br /> ===Summary to this point===<br /> This is a summary of the discussion above: Most people are in favor of at least updating the logo, although a few would be okay with leaving it like it currently is. Of the designs that would actually ''change'' the logo, World is the most popular choice, although less than half of those responding so far have mentioned it, and some have even said that they do ''not'' like World. Current Updated seems to be the overwhelming overall choice, either as a first choice or as a suitable second choice among those who also like something else. The questions I put to you now, then, are these: (1) Is what I have just said an accurate summary of the above discussion? (2) If so, then are we ready to consider Current Updated to be the result of the discussion? (3) Is there anyone who would be strongly opposed to making Current Updated be the new logo? (4) If we are in fact going with Current Updated, what minor tweaks, if any, should be done to it for it to be ready to be put in place? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In respective response, (1) I believe this to be an accurate summary of the above comments, (2) I believe Current Updated is largely a favorite, not to mention favorable, (3) I'm not strongly opposed, and I feel that very few will be, and (4) If anything, I would recommend perhaps a slight increase in letter spacing for &quot;Wiki&quot;. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In my opinion: (1) Yes. (2) Only 14 users have voiced their opinion in this section, so I think we should give it a bit more time. (4) In any case, the font should be the same as in the current logo. I would also like to see the edges of Homestar a bit smoother than they are in &quot;Current Updated&quot;.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::As for me, (1) Ditto. (2) Just wait a bit. Even though only 14 users responded, they got very longwinded about their preferences and thus spoke in place of a lot of others that could have posted. I suggest we have an old STUFF-like vote with every cantidate being voted upon. (3) We'll see, but I don't think so. (4) Font change, no blink. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I also believe that you accurately summarized the above, but as I haven't weighed in yet, I also like [[HRWiki:Logo_redesign_2006#World|World]]. It's fresh, simple, and professional. I am not emotionally attached to our current logo. The only thing that I would like to say about '''world''', is that I don't like the font. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::''IRF:'' That's great, but the most important question currently is question (3).<br /> ::::''Brightstar:'' I'll say again, this is not a vote, it's a discussion. We're trying to find something that we can all live with (or as close to all as practically possible), not just something a simple majority wants. Now that Current Updated appears to be where the consensus is headed, the question should not be &quot;Which one do you like?&quot; but rather &quot;Can you live with Current Updated or not?&quot;<br /> ::::''Regarding the time frame:'' I certainly don't want to limit anyone's ability to give input, but we need to keep the discussion moving so it doesn't wander aimlessly like it did in all of the subsections above. Additionally, we have gone out of our way to advertise the fact that we are holding this discussion and that it would be the end of the month when we would be making a decision. Well, the end of the month is fast approaching. A lot of people have already stated their opinions, but if anyone else has anything to say, the time to do so is now. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yeah, I forgot about that. Considering the deadline, it looks like '''Current Updated''' will be the obvious choice.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::(1) As one of the few who hadn't been following the majority of the discussion, I trust your and others' judgment. (2) Yes, Current Update is the way to go. (3) Not that I think of. (4) I don't like the background being this blurry. Maybe a bit, but not so much. Make it blink once every 20 seconds or more. The font is ok, although I con't care if it was changed to something similar. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 22:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I fixed the font and slowed the blink to once every 15 seconds. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :(1) Same response as E.L. Cool. (2) I agree, Current Updated is my pick - if we must go with just one logo, I recommend updating the current logo rather than drastically changing the look. (3) No opposition here. (4) I like it just the way it's currently shown on the images page. Personally, I'd rather not see it blinking at all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The blink is one of the coolest parts. I think it's slow enough now that it's not annoying and is more of an Easter egg, as someone put it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hm. Now that I see Current Updated on the main page, I think I like the old one better. I think it's the blurry background and Homestar's mouth being open that I don't like as well (I asked my wife what she thought and, unprompted, she said the same thing). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I took a few minutes and closely compared the current and the current updated. There a few thing that I like and don't like about Current Updated.<br /> ::*'''I like''' (a) the open mouth vs the closed mouth, (b) the new font vs the old font, (c) the newer homestar vs the old<br /> ::*'''I don't like''' (a) the blur, it makes it look like a hologram or something.<br /> ::*'''I do not care about''' the blink.<br /> :::{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 01:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I don't like that one the main page. Like I said before. It doesn't look as good. Everyone have a look at the The World Logo on the Main Page, below, and tell me what you think. I very much like it. I'm not sure how to do that temporary file thing (or if I can) so that's why I used the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Now that I see the current logo on the main page, I don't really like the feel of it. The world on the other hand, looks excellent. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know. It just reminds me of Wikipedia. Looking at the Current Updated on the main page, though, and I'm not sure I like it, either. I made a version, below, that is much closer to the current logo. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I do prefer Homestar's open mouth over his closed mouth. But I do like [[:Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated_b.gif|this background]] better than the blurry one. Hmmm, a few hours ago it all seemed as if we could agree on one logo, and now some are discussing how to improve that one, and others are discussing which logo to choose instead. That's a bit chaotic, folks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, well. I keep ''trying'' to like the World logo, but something about it just isn't right in my mind. In the spirit of compromise, I have blended what I feel are the best elements of the Current Updated B and the World ideas into one, and I think it is not bad at all. Check it out below. The more I look at the original Current Updated, the more it looks too cartoony and not professional at all. I like the Blended idea, but if I had to, I would settle for Current Updated B if it meant that or don't change at all. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Now, I may want more of an update than a change, but I disagree with the use of Current Updated B. And yes, comparing all of them, Current Updated doesn't look so hot anymore either. In fact, considering all four of them, &quot;World&quot; would have maybe 30% of my favor and &quot;Blended&quot; would have 70%; looking at them in the upper left corner helps tremendously. In summarization, I'm beginning to lean towards '''Current Updated and World Blended'''. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I think that current updated and world blended is the best, but Homestar's body needs to be a little bigger. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 04:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'll start off by saying that I'm no graphic artist, I'm a terrible artist which is why you'll never see me try and submit a logo. I think Dot com's summary is also correct, with the options at this point basically being an updated current logo or the world logo. Since some users think there's something wrong with the world logo that they can't quite put their finger on (I also kind of feel this way), what about taking the world logo and trying different versions of it? Then we pit a couple of those verses a couple of updated logos, and see what gains the most popularity? I admit this could also be construed as a step backwards, which is why I would also be happy with simply an update of our current logo. And if we go with that, I vote closed mouth and slow blink. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you look at the subsection way above, you'll see that there are already lots and lots of variants. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> I really like all choices, but why can't we use the blinking time TBC use? At this blink rate it's unnoticeable. I think if we're gonna update, and we have the technology to do the blinking, let's do it right. 4 secs. Not too often to distract, not so slow as to make it unnoticeable. And true to canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree. If it's going to blink, follow the canon. (I'd prefer a non-animated logo, but I don't feel strongly about it). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::People who are currently testing a 5-second interval blinking logo complain that it is distracting, and others have stated on this page that they desire no blinking at all. I feel that a very slow blink rate is an acceptable compromise compared to having no blink or a rapid blink. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I suppose I should revise my previous comment, I feel very strongly that the logo should not be animated. A slow blink rate only means it distracts you less often, it's still a distraction. I don't think we want that &amp;mdash; I'm reminded of [[website]] in which TBC satirized gratitous use of animated gifs. (When I said I don't feel strongly, it's only because either way it won't be animated on my browser). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Ooh, I like the new choices (Current Updated B and World &quot;Blended&quot;). I consulted again with my better half, who represents the &quot;occasional Homestar Runner watcher&quot; demographic, and her reaction was also that she liked them both better than the previous incarnations. She did say something to the effect of &quot;Why's Homestar in front of a globe?&quot; I showed her [[Theme Song Video]], and it made more sense to her, but I thought it illustrated a small point that ''almost everybody'' who will come to this site has seen [[Intro]] &amp;mdash; it's the first thing you see when you go to Homestarrunner.com (unless you skip it). And if they haven't seen it, the &quot;kamikaze&quot; background is neutral enough that it's not going throw anybody off. The FCUSA globe, however, comes from a much more obscure toon. Just thought that was a useful perspective, since most people that come to our site aren't as well-versed in HSR as we are. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::What's wrong with a drastic change? It's not like we don't need it. And World isn't the biggest change in the world. I suggest we use that. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I still don't like the world image. And I admit I'm not quite sure what's distressing about the look of Current Updated on the main page; it looks fine to me. I'm still good with going that way. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I made another version of the current updated idea - my take on it [http://www.hrwiki.org/images/e/e8/Logo_Redesign_CurrentUpdate_MyTake.png see it here]. I'm not too sure about it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> After a bit of personal deliberation, I suppose I can live with '''Current Updated B'''. At the very least, it's an update. In regards to bleed0range's most recent submission, I'm not too sure about it either. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :After thinking about it some more, I like '''Current Updated B''' over the rest. Although I like the look of World, I agree with Trey's analysis that new users will not equate the globe with FCUSA, nor will they will they know what FCUSA is. They will however know Homestar and might recognize the Kamikazee if the had JUST watched the intro. The reason I say that is I consider myself a MAJOR H*R buff. I can quote emails and toons that I haven't seen since 2003 and yet when I saw the Kamikazee background I did not [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive_7#Updating_the_WIKI_Logo|think of the intro]]. I think that the blended one and bleed's most recent submission are a little too dark for my liking. So overall I now changed my position that Current Updated is the best fit to meet all of our wiki needs. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::OK, I'd be good with current updated B ''if'' it were changed to have a bit less of the white aura around Homestar. As it is, it makes him look a bit distorted, at least to my eyes. The amount of aura on current updated A seems about right to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Actually, our current logo has more aura than any of these. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Our current logo also has a black line around Homestar delineating him from the aura. In getting rid of that black line (which, don't get me wrong, is good), we make him look, well, &quot;fat around the edges&quot;, to quote Marzipan with all the white aura around him. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> :My view, made as brief as possible. I have nothing against any of the available options, but I much like another person asked my wife who has watched most of the toons, but has no real addiction like me, about the options and her responses were for World and World Blended &quot;Why did they put Homestar in front of the United States?&quot;, for Current Updated &quot;Homestar looks kinda dumb with his mouth open. . .I mean he is kinda dumb, but that just doesn't seem to say that you all are smart. . .&quot;, and for Current Updated B &quot;Whats the difference other than it doesn't look as clean?&quot; With that in mind, here's my thoughts; I do think that the issue I have with World/World Blended is that to someone who doesn't know any better it does seem like Homestar is in front of the United States, and as for the other 2, I've never liked the look of Homestar with his mouth open and the less bluring the better. So I guess my vote is for Current Updated B. It comes the closest to modernizing our brand without distorting it for new clients. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&amp;#39;s Teh C]] 19:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hey guys, well my opinion is leaning towards &quot;Current Updated&quot;... and my second favorite would be &quot;Current Updated B&quot;. I think Homestar with his mouth open is a great logo. Anyway, there's my opinion... --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 22:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :My favourite is the Homestar from ''Current Updated'' with the background from ''Current Updated B''. Being not from the US, I agree with Ilko's wife's &quot;United States observation&quot;, so I wouldn't like either of the world logos.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hmm...Now that I see them all, I'd have to agree with Loafing. I hadn't even thought about how US-centered the world one would be. Current updated B is now my favorite. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 22:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Current updated B is looking a lot better now. I'm good with it (although I still prefer the original current updated version). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::This interesting in that this is a fluid discussion with a lot of give, take, and revision but for history's sake it will be impossible for people to understand why people don't like Current Updated B, then love it (because the Current Updated B is different than it was earlier). With that said, I LOVE the way Current Updated B is now, it lost the blurr and looks very nice. My favorite. '''good prize''' {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I still say we go with World. I mean, what's the point of changing our logo without, uh, changing our logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Although I was never opposed to change the original intent was not to change the logo. The original intent was to update the logo, and even that wasn't a given. There was a chance that we would do anything. We don't change for the sake of change. We are looking for the best fit for the wiki. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::IRF: Note, all of the changes to [[:Image:Logo Redesign Current Updated b.gif|Current Updated B]] (and all the other images) are stored in the file history, so it would in fact be possible to reconstruct a timeline if someone needed to. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Adding my voice to those who like &quot;Current Updated B&quot; - that one is good. I personally do not like either of the World icons at all - it's Homestar: &quot;But He's In Space!&quot;. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Meh. I still like the normal &quot;Current Updated&quot; better. I mean... with homestar's smile... it just lightens up the wiki. :P --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 02:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, it really does. I'd like it if we went with Current Updated/World Blended, but with Homestar's mouth open. To me, a closed mouth looks like he's staring at you. ''Staring''. Anyway, I don't care about the blink much anymore, but the &quot;every 15 seconds instead of 3 or whatever it was&quot; sounds best to me. We need to wrap this up pretty soon, so if anybody has any objections to our 4 choices here, speak now or forever hold your piece. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #800080;&quot;&gt;''Brightstar Shiner''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> :PLEASE PICK THE ONE WHERE HE IS SMILING. it would make me smile... --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 03:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Current Updated, love the blur, love the mouth open. Looks as close to a smile as Homestar ever gets - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 04:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;!--Please keep this at the BOTTOM of the thread--&gt;<br /> '''See the main page with:'''<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page1.html '''Current Updated A'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page2.html '''Current Updated B (much closer to the current logo)'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page5.html '''Current Updated C (a cross between Current Updated A and B)'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page3.html '''World'''}}<br /> *{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page4.html '''Current Updated and World ''Blended'''''}}<br /> &lt;!--Please keep this at the BOTTOM of the thread--&gt;<br /> ----<br /> ===Where we are now===<br /> {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;<br /> |- bgcolor=#eeeeee<br /> ! Current !! Current Updated B !! Current Updated C !! Current Updated A<br /> |-<br /> | [[Image:wiki.png|150px]]<br /> | [[Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated_b.gif|150px]]<br /> | [[Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated_c.gif|150px]]<br /> | [[Image:Logo_Redesign_Current_Updated.gif|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;useskin=monobook main page}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page2.html main page}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page5.html main page}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/Main_Page1.html main page}}<br /> |-<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=japanese_cartoon&amp;useskin=monobook sample article}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/japanese_cartoonB.html sample article}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/japanese_cartoonC.html sample article}}<br /> | {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/japanese_cartoonA.html sample article}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Based on the above discussion, it seems clear that there is enough dissatisfaction with the World concept (both the full world and blended versions) from enough users to exclude it from the running. '''Just about everybody would be satisfied with one of the Current Updateds, so we need to focus on narrowing our choice to one of those.'''<br /> <br /> I would be satisfied with any of the updated versions, although I'm still leaning toward '''version B''', and would like to hear if anyone has a specific reason to choose one of them before I make up my mind (for example, maybe one looks more professional). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I like '''Current Updated C''' best. It looks good and seems to be a good combination of features that most people like.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree with Loafing, '''Current Updated C''' seems to have the characteristics most users want. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 06:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::'''Current Updated B''' is my favorite; as Thunderbird once said, Homestar just looks more intelligent with his mouth closed. And the guy needs all the help he can get ;) I could live with numba '''C''' though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::'''Currented Updated B''' - the C version's kamikaze lines do not look very straight with his mouth open. The other one covers it up better.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::'''Current Updated C'''. Homestar doesn't need to look &quot;intelligent&quot;... He's Homestar! The mouth open-nes give him a smiling look that is welcome and greeting to new people visitng the site. It's optimistic and I like it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Homestarpedia ==<br /> <br /> Shoot, I would've loved to take part in this discussion/submission process. I would like to submit [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], but it seems like the submission time has already expired. =( I was kind of aloof from the wiki for quite some time with a lot of things going on in my life (and even still), so I wish I would've found out about this sooner! If there is any chance you'll let me submit this yet, let me know, otherwise...shoot, that's life. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 10:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)</div> Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:29:17 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:Logo_redesign_2006 http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;+link</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! 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See below)&lt;/small&gt;, one of the things you learn as an admin is that you can't please everybody all the time. I am, however, open to constructive criticism, so I'm a little disappointed that you didn't give me any more to go on than that one line. Or that you didn't at least sign your name. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::What? Did Bubsty write that? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Indeed. ''EDIT: Actually, his sister said that it was she who wrote the comment.'' &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br /> ::::Or perhaps somebody from his computer or something. He did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=241561 refer to Bubsty in the third person]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::How did this person edit da Basement? Didn't you block him for 3 days, TBird? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yes, he did, but I unblocked the IP, since the edit wasn't trolling or vandalism. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I see. And in response to Thunderbird's comment: I don't know that third person is really evidence it wasn't he; he could have been covering his tracks. What ''does'' baffle me, however, is that that IP wrote false information about Bubsty's guestbook being gone, when in fact Bubsty himself removed the deletion tag from his guestbook, something one would think Bubsty would know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Haha, I just mentioned that point a minute ago. But on IRC- I didn't bother updating my theory here. Thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::That was me! Not Erik! And he told me he left the wiki, so I thought he had deleted his guestbook too. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::&lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt;Sigh*. So much for me leaving. Seems I have some explaining to do. Some things to clear this whole thing up:<br /> ::::::::::First off, I '''''DID NOT''''' write that comment above. I recently showed Sarah the comment you left on my user talk page a while ago telling me to stop using the list of users list to welcome people. Although I really didn't care that much about what you had written, she seemed to think of it as rude and insulting. I assume that comment was her &quot;blowing off steam&quot;.<br /> ::::::::::It seems Dot Com thinks Thekillerdynamo is me. If you still have any questions about this whole thing, ''please'' tell me. I'll try to explain it.<br /> ::::::::::Finally, I'm really sorry (not to mentioned embarrased), that this whole thing happened. I'll '''try''' to have something like this ''never'' happen again. (Depends if a certain family member agrees).<br /> ::::::::::Sincerely,<br /> ::::::::::{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Well, as you can see below, all I knew for sure was that the edits were coming from your house. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> You do a lot on this wiki, but you're mean to the young people here. 10, 11, 12, and 13 year olds shouldn't have to act like a 28-year-old!<br /> Can't you just be a ''bit'' nicer? I think more people would like you then.<br /> Please; I'm not trolling - although I did blank your talk page. But that was so you would see this easier.<br /> If you revert it (which I'm sure you will) can you at least think about being ''nicer''?<br /> Once again, sorry for messing up your talk page. Just please read. Thanks! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :PS: I think you're still a good admin. Just show some commen sense. (Of course, I should talk; Look who's about to get themselves blocked!)<br /> :PPS: Oh, and about my first edit on this page; I admit that was me. But that was back when I didn't know what a wiki was and didn't know who you were. You ''aren't'' my least favorite admin ever. In fact, you're one of my favs! If you want to block me for that, go ahead; I deserve it.<br /> ::Why don't you log in so we can discuss this. Talking through an IP address isn't the kind of conversation we should be having. I'm not going to block you. If I wanted to block you, I would have blocked your IP a long time ago. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ok, I made a user. [[User:That One User|That One User]] 06:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I don't mean make a sockpuppet, I mean log in as yourself. You have obviously been around for a bit for you to hold the opinion you do, and, looking closely, you are either Bubsty or, at the very least, someone inside his house. So, c'mon now, Erik, Sarah, whoever... log in for real if you actually want to talk. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::How did you know? [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Hang on now, let me make sure I have this right... You're telling me that someone who has [[Special:Contributions/Thekillerdynamo|18 total contributions]] (as of this writing, none of which are in the article namespace) and to whom the only thing [[User talk:It's dot com/These Peoples Try to Fade Me#Hi_from_Thekillerdynamo|I've ever said]] is &quot;Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name,&quot; would suddenly and for no apparent reason get so annoyed with me as to &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&amp;diff=240812&amp;oldid=240757 put this]&lt;/span&gt; on my page? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't add up. Perhaps you could explain yourself a little... or come clean. ;) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Seems odd right? Actully, I've just seen what you've said to other people (like the thing) and what you said to Bubsty that one time. That was why I said &quot;you're my least favorite admin ever&quot;. When you said that thing about user welcoming... something like that. But I'm not mad anymore. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: Oh, okay then. Please allow me to speak to your points: Occasionally messages must be posted that are stern because it's urgent that the message be understood. (In the case of the message I sent your brother, it was because of the fact that edit summaries can't be changed, and so we have to be careful what we put in them.) I do try, however, never to be insulting, and as I said way back when, I do apologize if he took it that way. Also, I have nothing against young users, and I will happily give assistance to anyone who needs it (just have a look around this talk page). It should be noted that several of our exceptional users, including a sysop, are quite young, relatively speaking. Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things. The wiki, after all, is not a toy. I think BazookaJoe put it quite well in his message to The thing when he talked about what &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:The_thing&amp;oldid=242251 the purpose]&lt;/span&gt; of this wiki is. All of this can only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's [[caffeine#Transcript|adopted]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Well this is (not) nice... ==<br /> <br /> I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar_Coder&amp;diff=242152&amp;oldid=242150]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not &quot;incredibly gay&quot; - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> Apparantly this is all because of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Character_Evolution&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=175719 this revert]. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I thought I [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#character evolution|explained reasonably]] that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with [[:Category:Character Evolution]]. *shrug* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whoa! ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&amp;diff=243608&amp;oldid=242626 Wow.] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC) &lt;small&gt;(And here I was trying to come up with some cool archive style for mine...)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :It's dot com has archived his talk page? Saddle up my flying pig; I'm goin' ice skating in hell! (But seriously&amp;mdash;I'm digging the topical groupings.) &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Wow. I love that format! Keep on... making-great-stuff! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Quite impressive. Looks snazzy, and loads alot faster. Now we've just gotta convince [[User talk:Tom|Tom]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::This is the greatest thing ever. Would you mind terribly if I bit your style and did a similar thing? :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::With a comment like that, how could I possibly refuse? You are more than welcome to take my coolness and rework it to achieve your own brand of awesomeness. (Never mind all that GFDL nonsense.) :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::YAYZ. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what happened ==<br /> <br /> Hey it's dot com, what happened to your discussion page? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :well, he archived it. this means that at the top, you can just go to the links and they will lead you to the headlines. pretty cool, huh?<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, I just couldn't take all the whining from all you guys anymore. ;) But I figured out a compromise between keeping all the talk on this page and moving it all to an archive, so I went with it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::i wasn't whining. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I know. But take a look through the archives and you'll find quite a few requests for me to do so, and there were innumerable chat conversations to that effect as well. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == i believe... ==<br /> that you are an amazing user. you are just in everything you do. i think it is inspiring how much you care for the betterment of the wiki. you block only the most important users. you recently blocked someone i know. i just want you to know that you are doing the right thing. thank you.<br /> :Is this from [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]? If so, why would you want me to block your brother? You guys must be like my brothers and I are. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::yeah, he hates my guts. and that's why he will never disobey me and come on a website too cool for him again. heheheh....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I want to be a sysop ==<br /> <br /> Do you no wen the next sysop election is gonna be? {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Depends on several things. Why do you ask? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I wanna be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Really? How come? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I want to be a sysop. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Right. You just said that. I'm asking why you want to be a sysop. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Because I want to be able to: Block, Delete, Edit special pages... all the stuff sysops can do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Why do you want to be able to do all those things? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I can't really explain it but I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Well, ''try'' to explain. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. Like people that should of been blocked pages that needed deletion plus I want to help the wiki as much as I can. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Who needs to be blocked? Which pages need deletion? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::Well there gone now but there used to be some. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::What's gone? The people, or the pages? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::If there is a person abusing the Wiki, or a page that doesn't have any need, there are ways of alerting sysops even if you're not one (add abusers to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and add the &quot;tobedeleted&quot; template to bad pages.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::Both are gone but the main reason I want to be a sysop is so I can help the wiki as much a possible. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::It's admirable to want to help the wiki. We need as many people&amp;mdash;sysops and users alike&amp;mdash;who will do that.&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Around here, we consider several factors when choosing whom to make sysops, and the most important consideration is trustworthiness. A close second is participation in the project. Rounding out the top six are the ability to deal with other users (especially in mediating disputes or deciding when to step in), technical know-how, the necessity for another position (that is, whether or not the wiki needs more sysops at any given time), and finally seniority. ([[bottom 10|Number seven]] on the top-six list is [[Senor Cardgage|senority]], which is the ability to make bad H*R-related jokes.)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;With those things in mind, at this time I would not be comfortable with making you a sysop. Not long ago, you vandalized this wiki and less than a day ago you were blocked from the fanstuff wiki for persistent trolling. I think it will take a while for people to trust you again after that. Additionally, you currently don't meet the [[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com/Let%27s_Get_Started_on_Doing_All_Those_Awesome_Things_I_Suggested#How_to_become_a_sysop|participation requirements]]. That is, you really don't have that many edits in the main or talk namespace nor have you done a big project. I haven't seen how you handle stress or abuse from problematic users and I don't know the status of your technical know-how (again, because I don't have a large sample of edits from which to judge). Last (and this one matters the least to me but is nevertheless important) there's the question of seniority: In other words, even if all else were equal, quite a few deserving people have been here a lot longer than you, and would thus be ahead of you in line whenever we promote the next user(s).&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Please don't think I'm trying to be overly discouraging, but your persistence in asking has made me want to be as unambiguous as possible. (By the way, asking for a position of power&amp;mdash;no matter where you are (except maybe Wikipedia)&amp;mdash;is a sure way to guarantee that the position will ''not'' be handed to you. Just so you know.) I encourage you to read the link above about the requirements and follow its advice. Over time, perhaps a long time, if you make good contributions and keep your nose clean, then you might be more seriously considered. Until then, keep on tranglin'. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::::::::::Darn --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> To The Thing: Personally, I'd love to be able to do all those things as well, but being given a position of power doesn't come free - [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|You just gotta ''earn'' it!]] And to It's dot com: I found this whole conversation quite amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Perhaps there should be a page devoting to answering the question &quot;How do I become a sysop?&quot; I see it asked a LOT. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Perhaps part of the FAQ? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I really liked your idea, KieferSkunk, and decided to '''be bold''' and add it myself. It's composed mainly from the large paragraph above, but also from the talk section it links to, and my personal knowledge. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::'''It's dot com:''' Yada yada yada sysop yada yada trust yada seniority yada yada yada edits yada yada yada long speech yada yada...&lt;br&gt;<br /> :::'''The thing:''' Darn&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. No offense to either of you. I just found that funny.<br /> ::::One other thing, Thing: as I'm sure any of the sysops can tell you, it might not be as fun as it looks from the other side of the fence. It means a butteload of ''work'', and a commitment to a certain amount of involvement and responsibilities. It's like the Spiderman thing (you know, &quot;With great power...). &lt;small&gt;(Except it ''doesn't'' come with the ability to swing through Manhattan streets in spandex.)&lt;/small&gt; Also, about helping the wiki: yeah, deleting pages and blocking folks help, but it's really only a small percentage of the work that improves the wiki: the bulk of it is regular users editting and reviewing each other's edits. In other words, you ''already'' have the power for the single biggest part of wiki-helping that goes on. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Nevermind I'm a sysop on [http://weirdal.wikicities.com/ My own wiki] now. But it would still be cool to be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> If I may throw in my own perspective on this, &quot;with great power comes great responsibility.&quot; From what I've observed, being a sysop means making a lot of tough judgement calls, speaking nicely to people when you'd rather not, getting blamed for just about anything that goes wrong (real or perceived) and a lot of really hard work. Given all that, I'm not really clear on why someone would want that job so much, but I have nothing but admiration for the people who do it. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 01:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == i'm back ==<br /> hey, it's dot com. i just got unblocked this morning. i want to say you did the right thing, and that now i will probably be spending less time on the wiki, so when i get blocked the next time it won't suck so bad. ah well. anyway, like i said, you did the completely right thing, and i hope you become an admin for what you did. thanks.<br /> p.s. if i get blocked another time, please make it indefinite. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :um....[[User: Yeltensic]] just made a rude remark on the guestbook discussion page, and you should check it out. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I am aware of it and have posted comments. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::good. that was just plain crude. if he pulls some stunt like that again just because [[User: Darth Katana X|Darth Katana X]] told him to, i suggest you block him. look on yeltensic's talk page if you don't know what i am talking about. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well I found out about the discussion from Darth, but I didn't &quot;pull some stunt like that&quot; because Darth told me to, he didn't tell me to do that. So leave Darth out of it, he didn't do anything (well maybe he did, but if so it was unrelated). [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I apoligize. I now understand. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == That image ==<br /> <br /> Just so you know, the reason I restored that image for &quot;[[It's like it was meant to be]]&quot; is just because Homestar Coder and Abdi both expressed their support for it and I felt that the person who removed it was acting rather unilaterally. I don't mind its removal as much if there's actually someone else who agrees about removing it, though. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, and Thunderbird has added a different image. Maybe this one will work well? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't have a super-strong opinion that page, but the first image just didn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I did have an idea, though (the Wagon Fulla Pancakes). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, I'd say the same about not having a super-strong opinion; I just wanted to see things done fairly. (I try not to be too committed to my own ideas around the wiki. I find it only leads to disappointment when your edit gets reverted or your Fun Fact gets crushingly declined in STUFF. Not to mention you get along in the community better if you just go with the flow and be ready to get REVERT'd a few times, eh?) And yeah, I saw your new idea, and I think it's hilarious. &quot;Rondelman, you crack me up! Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my doge!&quot; Anydangway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I added a link to the article cuz i wasn't sure at first which article you were talking about. I definitely like the new pic! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == CAPTCHA ==<br /> <br /> I wanted to know what you did to get CAPTCHA up and running on 1.5.6. I stopped by the IRC channel &amp; was told to ask you about it. :) On freenode, I am earthsound (registered user). Also, you can reach me at gmail.com (same user name). <br /> Thanks!<br /> :(He and I spoke via the chat channel, and the gist of the discussion was that I was not the author of the software, just an assistant implementor, and I directed him to the software author. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC))<br /> <br /> <br /> == The ongoing saga ==<br /> um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be. '''ah well.''' {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Has Matt? ON WHEELS! ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for clearing up all those page moves on my user space. I seriously was actually ''laughing'' the whole time it was happening. I think my userpage had at least 12 &quot;ON WHEELS!&quot; in the page title. My first time being WoW'd. Ever. Well, anyway, thanks a lot! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No probalo. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Wow! someone must really like you! Ooo! ooo! Here's an idea (stemming from our basement discussion that should really go there but i'm sure the discussion has been archived): use the Captcha (ok maybe it's not such as hot of an idea now that i see the page move history) for making moves for all users (since we move pages seldom). But i guess these moves ''were'' done manually! Interesting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Actually, I believe the CAPTCHA image is used in move processes for all users. I had to use it. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh yeah! you're right! It is! I just saw it when i hit the move button in your pa&amp;mdash; *points* LOOK! *Runs away* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == .swf decompiler ==<br /> <br /> Where did you find a .swf decompiler? Stuntman021<br /> <br /> :I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler] by Eltima. A free download is available (which is the version I have, and it meets my needs pretty well), and the full version looks to have a lot of features. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == G'bye ==<br /> dot, I think I am going to take a break from the wiki. I just wanted you to answer a question of mine: do you ever feel like the wiki ends up affecting more than just the wiki aspect of your life? I mean, Ciberdude's got my IM screenname and my email address, and he won't stop from either. I know you can't help me with this, but I think I have to make myself a little more discreet the next time I come on here. That's why I'm taking a break. Just act like I'm gone for good, okay? I'll be back soon, just not for a while. Thanks for all the privelages. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, giving out personal info can be useful, but it can come back to haunt you sometimes. Take care, man. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I will. And even if you lose your sysop privelages, block ciberdork while I am gone. I'll still edit anonymously. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Seriously, Seriously, you say the weirdest things. Talk atcha later. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Seriosuly, Seriously. I mean Seriously. What. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::So, i finally learned to block email addresses, and IM ones too. So.....I guess I'm on the wiki again, and once again I am wildly exaggerating like I always do. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What did you do ==<br /> I would just like to make a counterpoint to hating guestbooks, even though the discussion is over. Have you ever thoguht how much sigs should be deleted? You must have, because if you are going to delete guestbooks like you did, the exact same reasons apply to sigs. People working on their sigs clutters up the recent changes, I know because I do it '''all the time'''. Sigs are not contributing to the wiki, just like you insist guestbooks don't. And finally, They give no proof that someone ever read your userpage, something that by the way is something that people either do or don't but that shouldn't matter to anyone else. I just think that What you and the admins did was entirely opinionated. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No proof, eh? Well, I guess that someone could read a user page in a matter of seconds and then promptly sign a guestbook. Not all sigs clog recent changes, just yours. Sigs are a means of identifying a user, and thus serve a purpose. I am not meaning to reply for It's dot com, but I just wanted to say this. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Also, I bet a lot of sig flooding could be stopped if people just used &quot;Show Preview&quot;. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::: Sigs exist anyway; you edit them in your user preferences (which does not show up on Recentchanges). The custom, however, is to create a User/sig template and use ''that'' as your sig. The User/sig versions are used because:<br /> :::# They're easier to edit.<br /> :::# If you edit one, ''all'' of your signatures change. If you edit the sig in your preferences, only ''future'' signatures change.<br /> ::: What's more, custom sigs of any sort allow links to your Talk or Contributions page, and make it easier to tell who's who (if you see a light blue sig with a green &quot;Talk&quot; area, it's probably me. If you see a gold-colored sig with symbols on both sides, it's likely Thunderbird. etc.) I'd take that over not being able to tell if I've previously read a user page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::And, by the way, it was not the admins' decision to remove them; they may have started the voting, but ''everyone with a user name'' could vote. I abstained voting entirely because I don't really care. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Got it. Reluctantly. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sorry ==<br /> <br /> Sorry about re-making those User_talk:Drwho? pages. I wuz trying to mark them delete but you already deleted them. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That's okay. Just remember to wait a couple of minutes between postings if you think that might be happening. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Two Questions ==<br /> <br /> Hey Dot com, what's up? I have two questions. First, where did you post that discussion where someone was asking how to do links that were not underlined and you tried an example which didn't quite work correctly? (This is indirectly related:) I was wondering if you could take a look at [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|this]] issue. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :See [[#Super-plain_link]]. Note: old how-to questions from my talk page are filed under ''The System Is Down &amp;rarr; Technical help''. On your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::For the first question, I looked briefly and couldn't find it (actually i scanned the page twice) but couldn't find it. I was scanning too quickly. As for the second issue, it turns out to be a firefox issue :(. Nerd42's sig goes beyond the table borders for some reason. I looked at the sig code and all the tags were closed off. I hope you have a copy of firefox to look at this cuz i'm not gonna provide a screenshot of it right away! ;) I gotta eat! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I'd post it in a more central place, like the FAQ talk. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Good idea! Just so you know, I found out another reason why you wouldn't be able to see it: resolution. The problem only happens when you wrap text a certain way. As a result, I have [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects#Strange|posted]] an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects&amp;oldid=255516#Timeline_project update] and a [[:Image:Nerd42sigProblem.png|screenshot]] of the problem, as well as an inquiry in the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Sig_image_bug|FAQ talk page]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == trolling ==<br /> <br /> Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much. Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? {{User:Seriously/sig}}<br /> <br /> :User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::How? {{User:The thing/sig}}<br /> <br /> ::::I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HRWIKI about our wiki]. At the near bottom, it says &quot;If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun.&quot; This is the ''exact same username''. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of &quot;trolling&quot;? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Yea. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::LLok at this '''North Shore Medical Center''' same first letters. {{User:The thing/sig}}<br /> <br /> ::::::I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == seriosly ==<br /> <br /> i dont think its fair to bann me every tiem I talk to seriously, he is a big user on the wiki and if i am to become a good contributor i will have to stop pretending he doesnt exist. i think i've been banned enough to know not to fight with him.&amp;mdash; {{user:Ciberdude444/sig}} 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;s&gt;I think your mom goes to college is not the person who sent this. But that's just me.&lt;/s&gt; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fanstuff Troll== <br /> Really bad troll attacking for 2 days at the fanstuff wiki, Joshua says he needs help. [[User:Riley|Riley]]<br /> <br /> :What do you mean? I'm not sure that dot comster is a sysop there. If he is, please elaborate. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, he is. [[HRFWiki:User:Riley|Riley]]<br /> <br /> :::Seriously: This is the third time ''in a row'' you have replied to messages on my page that weren't addressed to you. And in two of the three times, your reply was either wrong or didn't give any useful information. Please let me have the opportunity to reply to my own messages. Thank you. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Riley: What's this guy's deal? Is he Clan or someone who just doesn't like Clan? What course of action would you like me to take? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It's dot com: Sorry. Just trying to be helpful. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Um, he stopped, joshua wanted me to tell you earlier. [[User:Riley|Riley]]<br /> <br /> ::I enabled some more security that should limit him to one new vandal account at a time, and I scrubbed out some of the filthier usernames. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> Thanks for all the work with Babel! -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 00:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're welcome! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Babel ==<br /> <br /> I understand why you think that the [[HRWiki:Babel|Babel]] towers will be better with the source code rather than the templates, but I really think that templates will make it a lot easier to use and more user friendly. I understand that there would be a lot, but noinclude tags could be used to keep track of them. Source code is fine, but do you think that I could at least try with Templates, and if it gets too confusing switch back to source code? -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 00:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I think we should try with the source code first. It's not too hard to get the hang of. (Besides, it's just copy and paste for most people. ;) ) I don't have a problem with a generic template, but we don't need to create a whole slew of them for a non-mainspace thing such as this. Plus, this way, people won't be limited by just the ones in the templates (although we do ask that they be Homestar Runner (or wiki) related). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == ciberdude444 ==<br /> <br /> im not ciberdude, hes my brother, my computer is auto loged on and he used it to post that talk, i didnt say anyhting cause of the warm welcome i had at the wiki compared to my brother's fued and destruction it was better not to connect me with him in any way. &amp;mdash; {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 20:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent block ==<br /> Umm... are you sure that IP you blocked recently is the right guy? Because I checked his contribs and he hasn't done anything vaguely trollish. Except, maybe for editing Tampo's sig and page, but Tampo din't seem to mind, which leads me to believe he ''is'' Tampo. If he's not, he still seems like a fine user. Any reason why you blocked him? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :*24.77.42.48 has created an account as A fweakin' chair<br /> :*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Reverted<br /> :*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Christian<br /> :Yep, I'm pretty sure. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> You've blocked a troll with the same IP adress as [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]. He is blocked for no reason. [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]]<br /> :Yea! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The IP in question was not blocked for no reason. It was being used (as you can see above) to create multiple accounts in a short amount of time, which were then being used for vandalism. I will unblock the IP for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it. P.S. The thing: Exactly what was the point of your post? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I have no idea just kinda wanted to be in the conversation. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Arrested Development-apalooza ==<br /> I wanted to make sure you heard about this. Fox is airing the last four episodes back to back on Friday, starting at 8pm. From one fan to another, {{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 23:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, we've already got the party planned! :) It's going to be bittersweet. I don't know whether to hold out hope for Showtime or not. And I wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends while leaving the door open a crack in case they do change networks. Hmm. Thanks for posting! Talk atcha later, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Such a good show.....It pains me to see it go....{{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Admin sigs ==<br /> Why do none of the admins excepy JoeyDay have customized their sigs? I'm thinking maybe you guys are too busy to do that stuff. Just wondering if you knew. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, that's not quite true, unless you have a very narrow definition of admin. If by admin you mean someone on the [[Template:adminteam|Admin Team]], then [[User:Stu|Stu]] definitely has a [[User:Stu/sig|signature]]. If you mean people who are on the Admin Team and are currently active in the day-to-day maintenance of the site, then you're right, only Joey has really customized his signature. Of the six of us, however, only [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] has no customization to speak of. [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], and I all have subtle modifications from the standard. If, on the other hand, when you say admins you mean sysops, then there is quite a bit of customization. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] and [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] have had special sigs for as long as I can remember, as have [[User:Jay|Jay]], [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]], [[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]], and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]. [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]'s modification is a slight tweak, and [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] and [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] haven't been here in a while. Even [[User:GrapeNuts|GrapeNuts]] (a bot) has a [[User:GrapeNuts/sig|sig]]. As for the heart of your question: Why do Tom, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]], and I have more or less &quot;plain&quot; signatures? Well, Tom's is like that because he's ornery about such things. BazookaJoe's and mine are like that because it just looks right. Since everyone else goes to such great lengths to customize their signatures, ''not'' doing so becomes a customization in itself. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Book Antiqua,serif;color:darkgreen; font-size:130%&quot;&gt;''It's dot com''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> Cool font. I meant the admin team, without the sysops, By the way. Stu, well I've never actually seen him make an edit. Although I did hear that he was joey's friend. I just think that if you have a sig, you should make it have more convenience, like having a link to your talk page. Thnaks for the answer. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :And Dot com has toyed with his signature in the past [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 8#Towards a more standards-compliant signature|once or twice]], a long while back. That special sig you just made looks pretty cool, if you ever did decide to change it for good. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::GrapeNuts has a sig? Dot com customizing his!? What is the world coming to!? ''This message is {{User:GrapeNuts/sig}} approved &lt;small&gt;(not really, I just wanted an excuse to use his sig :)&lt;/small&gt;.'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Weird. And ''you'', thunderbird, had a blue sig. That scares me. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Um, I just wanted to know what subtle modifications you, Tom, and InterruptorJones have on your sig. Do you mean past versions? Also, what is DrHaggis's slight tweak? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Tom has a nonbreaking space in front of his (and used to have an empty link). I have an em dash. Interruptor Jones has both of those and uses small tags. Dr Haggis's real username is Drhaggis. All of us put the modifications directly in the preferences box, instead of using a sig template. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::So you don't have to put an em dash alll the time? That's really cool. I think Ill do that. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fanstuff on the knowledge base ==<br /> By the way, you say I have to delete my caption contest, yet you don't seem to think about the amazing amount of people doing translations on their userpages. Also, you should think about Has Matt?'s page that includes homsar quotes that other people can edit. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I can't realy think of many people who do translations. Even then, the translations themselves are direct quotes and the replies are occurring on the talk pages. The reason I had a problem with your activity is because not only were you inviting people to edit your user page, you were asking them to ''create new H*R-related content'' based on the toons, which is the very definition of fanstuff. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah. I realize that my above comment was a little bit too harsh; I apologize for that. I try to stay nice with users, since most already have a reason to hate my guts (including you). So, yeah. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Er, okaaay.... &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, DBK does, after the extremely insolent remark I made on his user page, And you have a reason because of [[User: Ciberdude444|Something I can't mention.]] Also, Firebird has an excuse because I was blocked by him for trolling, and Yeltensic has a reason (although he's not a user anymore) because I was one of the people who asked him to stop most. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::One of the coolest things in this wiki is that everybody generally treats each other with respect and with maturity. Most of the people I know here do their job (be it editing pages, commenting on behavior, or taking action nobody wants to have to take but that needs to be taken) and then move on if need be, and so we try not to harbor little things that may be divisive or in the long run inconsequential. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recap ==<br /> Can I get a recap (no need to be brief, I have time) of the things that have happened here since the start of December? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}<br /> :''See [[Talk:Main Page#Recap|Talk:Main Page &amp;rarr; Recap]]'' &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == guess what happened to me ==<br /> <br /> Heloo there It's dot com, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Cool, man. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, keep in mind, Nikolce, that the pizza trophy is superior to the Iron cup of &lt;strike&gt;beef&lt;/strike&gt; brunswick stew. This means that that trophy is one of the greatest trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> wow, is there some sort of &quot;lost of tropies or something?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Check the [[Hrwiki: Barnstars|Barnstars]] page. There's a lot of trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mirrors and Such ==<br /> Hello, It's dot com. I'm now direction your admin-y attention to [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#HRWiki Mirror|this little discussion]] in the far reaches of the knowledge base. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Tom currently handles all the mirror-type stuff. I would ask him. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Okay... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Userboxes? ==<br /> <br /> Hey there dotty, how are these last couple of days. can i ask you something, i've been looking at people user pages, and i've been finding these things called userboxes? what are they?<br /> <br /> is there a list of them or something?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I might be able to help here. A list is located at [[HRWiki:Userboxes]], as well as directions on how to add them to your page. Let me know if you need any help adding some, if you want to do so. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thunderbird, let me say sorry, about this message. Its because i don't like to order people around, but my user page is a bit of a mess, actually its chaos, please help its urgent. thanks a bunch. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Nikolce, if you say please, it's perfectly fine. Don't worry about politeness, because it seems you almost unconsciously type in polite ways. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Idea and it's potential ==<br /> Hi. Nikolce Kocovski sent me something on my talk page. It's the newest headline, I think you should check it out. I want to see if you think either his idea or mine would be of any potential. Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == NSMC thing ==<br /> What's the purpose of that page? Also, why'd you delete the talk page for it? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Also, I'd like to congrat yoyu on the amazing amount of users you've managed to obtain. Truly amazing. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::&quot;Amount of users&quot;? What? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I mean the amount of sockpuppets that NSMC created. You just made a page listing all of the addresses. It looked cool. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh. Well, for an explanation of the page, see the section in [[HRWiki:A_History#NSMC|A History]]. I deleted the talk page because it was a user talk page, and therefore comments on it weren't addressed to me but to the vandal. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I find this extremely interesting. Y'know, I was here when NSMC hit. I didn't know how revert it, though, so I just didn't go on the Cheat Commandos section. Of Cuorse, that wasn't enough. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Paradoxes ==<br /> <br /> So which came first? The [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse/Please_leave_this_line_alone chicken], or the [[HRWiki:Introduction|egg]]? ref:[http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm pretty sure ours was modeled after [[Wikipedia:Template:Please leave this line alone|this]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I hate it when we're not original. :(. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ahhhh .... hence the similarities. I *now* remember seeing that before a long long time ago, once you showed it to me, even though it looks exactly like the other one... :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> Cool! Where did you find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&amp;diff=269724&amp;oldid=269553 this one]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I wrote it myself. See the fourth userbox on my user page. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==18,000 views==<br /> <br /> Hey, you've got a cool userpage. I agree, Marzipan's answering machine is underrated. {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks, man. Welcome aboard! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::With over 18,000 views, it ''has'' to be good. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::18,000 views?? When did that happen?! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I'm not sure I trust those counters anyway... The one at the bottom of this talk page currently shows only about 800 views, but surely ''that'' can't be right. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I've been having a similar situation on my user page. For some ''extremely'' odd reason, it says I have ''28,000'' page views. Seriously, I'm not that popular. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::You were talking to Dot com, not Seriously. {{User:Granola/sig}} 21:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Oh, Granola. That's one of the worst jokes I've heard all day. :P &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Of course, I, being a retard, do not understand that joke a bit. Also, dot com, you might as well delete that thing on the bottom I wrote, cause you asked the smoking monkey to delort it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Well, you see, &quot;Seriously&quot; can mean both your username or &quot;in a serious manner&quot;. Has Matt? meant that ''in reality'' he is not as popular as 28,000 page views would seem to indicate, but Granola took it to mean that he was addressing you directly. Hilarity ensued. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Or a total lack of hilarity, as it was a crappy joke. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Oh good, I knew you weren't that popular :P Maybe with all the code fiddling you do, you somehow reversed the number of talk page views with the number of userpage views or something. I've gotta say this has shattered my confidence in those little counter things, before I would have trusted those things with my life. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::And I jumped from 2500 to 6000 in less than 24 hours awhile ago. That can't be right, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::The number is so small because the counter was reset to zero when this page was moved back incorrectly from a vandal. It had to be deleted and recreated, and that's probably what caused the problem. And Heimstern, do you have your preferences set to hold page caches? If you do, that's probably what caused the view count to jump. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::Aw, man! You're probably right, HSRusername. That really bums me out. I would reset my counter, except that I have no idea what to set it to. By the way, as far as I know, I've never messed with anything that would affect those numbers. Maybe they've gone up dramatically because an outside bot is gathering data or something (like for Google). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::At the very least, as of [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 16#6,000 views!|06:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]], you had over 6,000 talk page views, and just under 6,000 userpage views. I think it's safe to give yourself at least a 10,000 talk page view head start, as long as you give your userpage a 10,000 view handicap. That should get you somewhat back on track. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::Well, I found an archive just before all the hubbub that put the count at 10,071. I added that to the 958 currently showing to get 11,029, and used that figure to reset my counter. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Autocolumn==<br /> <br /> Btw, I wanted to say excellent work on the autocolunm feature. I was looking at the Strong Bad Email tables yesterday, thinking an autocolumn thing would be a nice feature, and lo and behold not two hours later it had been converted. Nice work. (I suppose for colunms such as the ones on my userpage though, it doesn't have any useful application, correct?) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I tried to use it for the ones in my page, but it just screwed things up. Although I did put it on [[The Field]] and [[Strong Badia]] and Has Matt? used it on [[Homestar Talker]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks! Yeah, when the columns are independent lists, they still have to be done the regular way. The autocolumns are for when you have one long list that just needs to be split up. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> Very nice script, It's dot com. No more tiring counts of items-per-column to make sure each one is equal. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Wait, what was the difference? I don't see anything new...at least I don't think...{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Smoking Monkey's talk page ==<br /> Why isn't what he did bad to you? Before you say no, let me explain. First of all, he embarassed me ''and'' The thing on his talk page '''on purpose''', second of all, he said apology's to dot com, which means he knew this would have a certain outcome to certain people like me, you (which for some reason you find fine), and the thing. This is a perfect example of premeditated malice. And third of all, would you like it if someone made fun of you on their talk page for everyone to see? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I have asked The Smoking Monkey to revert or remove the thread. If you find it insulting, then it is a personal attack, which we don't want. I assure you this was not The Smoking Monkey's intent, but that is beside the point. Let me take this opportunity, however, to suggest that learning to laugh at one's self is one of the most difficult yet rewarding things a person can do. In addition, I think you should ''stop'' apologizing and ''start'' adding more content to this site. Whenever I click on your contribs, I notice that over the last week your user talk contribs outnumber your main namespace contribs 7 to 1. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::yes. I understand. Also, I've been adding to the wooky (a major overhaul of the site just because I feel sorry for it), so I havn't had much of a chance. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Finding vandalism ==<br /> <br /> Hey, just wanted to flag a sysop. [[other days]] was mildly vandalized. I fixed it but figured you might want to know about it. Feel free to delete this from your talk if you want. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Simple nuisance vandalism can just be fixed and then ignored. The best way to let us know about more serious vandalism is to post it on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Then we'll get it taken care of. Thanks for reverting that page. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The thing ==<br /> Now that he's unblocked, I'm thinking you can put that template for his block reason on his talk page. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Did I just miss that? ==<br /> <br /> Did I miss something or is this just deja vu? I *just* noticed that the order of the &quot;diff&quot; and &quot;hist&quot; buttons are out of order from the other wiki's. In wikipedia, they are before the page title, here they are after the page title. How long has it been like that, and was that part of your recent tinkerings? Confused in Connecticut. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You live in connecticut? Bodacious in Buffalo {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't see what you're saying at all. Whistlin' in Washington, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You sure? On the Bonus Stage Wiki, they also go (diff)(hist), so... I dunno. Not Doing A Name Thingy Like The Rest Of You in Pennsylvania. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::::I think what he meant, although I don't see it, is that he thinks that it was &quot;{page title} (diff)(hist)&quot; here. Lazing Around in Lynnwood, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Hm. Odd. I see it the other way around. I mean, the correct way. Maybe Stux's internet is just going spastic. Not telling anyone my location, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Maybe it's a certain bug in the mediawiki 1.5 software, there were many other ones. {{User: Seriously/sig}}<br /> ::::::OT: Jay? Lynn would wash? Silly in Sammamish, {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::How very Strong Bad-ish of you. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Wait, did anyone else just realizing us having this discussion that is getting off-topic on another user's talk page that isn't even responding? Confused in Crapland, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Yeah, I'm thinking it's either a bug in the software, or a bug in Stux's compy. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I doubt that it's a bug in my compy since my watchlist is getting the code from the server as it's all server-generated. I know I have the &quot;enhanced&quot; recent changes turned on (I turned it off for a moment and it indeed showed it the other way, with (diff)(hist) first. But this must've been deja vu, cuz of that. Cuz I've had it &quot;enhanced&quot; for the longest time. So I dunno. I probably need sleep. As for my domicile: I actually don't live in Connecticut, nor have I ever even been in the state (sadly). I just picked the two words cuz they made good alliteration! (And I was surprised to be able to spell the state's name right.) I didn't think people would assume I lived in Connecticut. In fact I am Mindless in Michigan. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Mindless south of Montreal, Bamboozled west of Boston, Really Confused north of Rio, Dazed east of Dallas. {{User:Granola/sig}} 19:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vandalism == <br /> The thing has recently vandalized a wiki. Check Benol's talk page for info. I suggest you block him, as per your rule posted on the main page. Thanks. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Sorry I &lt;big&gt;LOVE&lt;/big&gt; this wiki the trolling was my evil cousin! Plus it wasn't this wiki. I swear I'm crying right now. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You should have thought about that '''BEFORE''' You trolled!!!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Please I'm really sorry! That was my evil cousin! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I'm crying harder than I ever have before! :'-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I'm sorry. Nothing we can do. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Please I '''LOVE''' this wiki! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::You probably won't be ''Permanently'' blocked.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I'm to sorry to even say it in words! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Look, you guys. I'm pretty sure all this trolling went on before Dot com posted that message on the Main Page talk. Besides, he's now trying ''extremely'' hard to clean up the mess he's made, so he obviously knows what he did is wrong. Therefore, will a block ''really'' do anything to help this situation? I think not. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Do u see how hard I'm trying to get rid of the vandalizm! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Ok guys, The thing has more than repented for that vandalism. Seriously, I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters that do not involve you. The thing is currently reverting the vandalism with extreme diligence, and this situation is misunderstood by both Benol and Seriously. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::It wasn't that I was not minding my own business, but I saw many changes to Benol's talk page on the recent changes and decided to see what was up about it. I only meant to help, and I'm sorry if I failed to do so. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::I wasn't party to this at all, so I don't really know what happened in this particular case. But I will say this: I said once before that I thought the ops here were being too lenient on The Thing, as he's had a history of vandalism and trolling in the past, and everyone seems to be very quick to defend him. (Lots of &quot;I'm sorry's&quot; and &quot;I won't do it again!'s&quot;.) I don't deny he's also made good edits here, but I have not seen discipline executed equally to him as has been to others who've done similar things, or less. That's kinda frustrating to see. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You all need to complain to your teachers for not teaching you how to read. While you're at it, Seriously and The thing, go ahead and post a mailing address where I can send a bill to your parents for babysitting you. On the main page talk, I said that anyone caught vandalizing &lt;u&gt;in our name&lt;/u&gt; would be dealt with. I have neither the time nor the resources to try and police other wikis. The message regarding other wikis means that if you vandalize Uncyclopedia, for example, ''in retaliation'' for something that happens here, then at that point you are speaking for ''all'' of us here, and I care very much that you don't do that. But random vandalism doesn't concern me. To The thing: I can't believe that you think vandalism is funny, especially given that you're an administrator at a wiki. To Seriously: you need to learn what is and what isn't important, and stop being such a tattletale. And stop speaking for me. In one place you say &quot;No matter what, you must get blocked.&quot; You have neither the authority nor the experience to be making claims like that. To KieferSkunk: The thing didn't actually do anything (in this case) to harm our wiki or its good name, and therefore there are no grounds for blocking him. (And he ''has'' been blocked recently by BazookaJoe for spamming.) To anyone who needs to hear this: Stop vandalizing. Stop behaving so immaturely (and don't blame your actions on your age; I know several young good contributors). Wiki usage is not a right; it's a privilege. And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing. You've said you're sorry so much that the words have no meaning. Let your future actions be your apology. That's all for now. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :In reply to your comment to me: I understand, and I'm not asking for him to be blocked in this case. I was making a more general comment about The Thing's history, seeing as how I have witnessed vandalism from him in the past and saw people, even sysops, defending him and going way out of their way to reason with him, rather than treating him as a vandal. I didn't understand it at the time, and I still don't, so I left my comments on the matter at &quot;I think you're being too lenient with him&quot;. This was mainly just a follow-up on that, more to mention that I'm not surprised another &quot;incident&quot; has come up than anything else. That's all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, unless an account is being used for nothing but vandalism, then [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Vandalism|reasoning should always be exhausted]] before blocking is implemented. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Just who do you think you are? ''Babysitting''? Y'know, it's not like I've ever done anything mean to you. Yes, I spoke for you. Just trying to help and to see it in the eyes of an admin. Yes, I've answered your talk page questions for you with crappy answers. Again, jsut trying to help. These things don't mean you have to insult me like that. Y'know, I've really never done anything bad to you on purpose. I always had great respect for you, and I've never purposely insulted you like you just did. You need to learn how a simple misinterpretation of a comment on the main page talk should'nt be an excuse for acting like that. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::When I vandalized I thought you were suppose to vandalize there. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::To Seriously: As one who has been an admin several times in other places, one thing I can say with certainty is that many admins feel very put off and are easily annoyed by non-admins (and especially relatively new people) trying to speak for them. Dictating policy to other users on behalf of the admins is usually a no-no unless you are an admin or are trusted by the admins to do so. (Obviously, I can't speak for It's dot com, but if I were in his place dealing with this crap, that's how I'd feel.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::And if you haven't figured it out by now who I am, Seriously, then you've got deeper problems than I can fix in one afternoon. To The thing: whatever, man. To KieferSkunk: Hear, hear. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Okay. Here it goes, time for me to swallow my pride:<br /> <br /> Look, Dot com, I just don't want to be treated like a baby. In my opinion, I think being a tattletale is the wrong was to think about it, I prefer &quot;fighting trolls, and trying to help you with your rule&quot;. Yes, I was disrespectful to you. I just needed to prove my point and express my anger at you. Also, I know you are an admin. Maybe I ''was'' a bit overboard with you; that doesn't mean what I said was entirely wrong. I mean, I apologize, but it's not like I'll kiss your ring and beg for forgiveness. I've got to be a bit more defiant than that to ever prove my point. Just remember: I've always, ''always'' tried to help you, and I just found your comment a bit mean. Just forgive me, please, and let this whole thing disappear. Thanks a lot. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Seriously, have you been reading this thread and understanding it? It's dot com has stated just 8 posts up: &quot;And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing.&quot; You are still relatively new to this wiki, and your experience has been limited to editing User and User talk pages. You said yourself you give &quot;crappy answers&quot; to questions that don't concern you. When I first joined, I watched conversations like this unfold and saw how responsible admins reacted. I didn't try to solve everybody's problems; I knew I didn't have the knowledge. Just keep to yourself for a while and maybe see what it's like to make some main namespace contrubutions. (That is the idea of a wiki, you know.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Check this out: ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so check out the current [[:Category:To_be_deleted|delete category]]. See something strange? The &quot;Timeline&quot; article is listed under the U's! Even though the tobedeleted tag uses the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{PAGENAME}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag. Strange, no? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dr. Who ==<br /> <br /> HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hey man, I want you to know that Dr. Who vandalized your talk page. Could you block his IP for me? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::First of all, this is nothing to get excited about. He's a garden-variety vandal, nothing more, and he comes back because (a) he apparently doesn't have anything constructive to do and (b) he has access to a dynamic IP. Second, yes, I'm aware that he vandalized this page. Third, I already blocked him before you posted your message. Fourth, please list future vandals on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], not this page. Thanks. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Also, he never does much damage, besides vulgar content and stuff like that. What's weird, though, is how he always manages to come when there's no sysops around. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You know what I hate? When this guy writes vulgar edit summaries. For people who patrol recent changes, especially kids, we don't have to see that. Really. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yea. I'm 10 he on my page said This user is fulla ****. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Ugh. At least NSMC was was just racist. This guy swears like nobody's business. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::He can go to jail for this. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I doubt that severely... Though one can always wish... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::To this point: would it be possible to introduce a language filter? The rare times a swear is needed (an interview transcript, for example) a sysop can override. ?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Probably impossible. That would interfere with this wiki, though, because the cartoon says crap all the time, among other things. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::We could allow the program to accept crap. Still, there are a lot of other issues... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::It's definitely possible, but currently it's not worth the effort it would take to install it. As for &quot;crap&quot;, we just wouldn't put that word on the bad list. Finally, I would appreciate it if comments that aren't actually directed to me be posted in a more public place: [[Talk:Main Page]], [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]], or [[HRWiki:Da Basement]], to name a few. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::OK. Although I think that everyone comes to you because you are the central hub of the wiki, pretty much. Everyone comes to you in hardships, whcih if I were you, I would be honored with. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::Oh, I know, and don't think I'm not honored, but I, like most people, don't like new-message false alarms, and would rather talk about projects I'm currently working on. Also, there are a lot of questions that anyone could more easily answer if they were just put in a more public place. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flashforward ==<br /> <br /> I'm still at the conference, it was really great. IRC doesn't work on the terminals, but suffice it to say, I was here, got autographs, (not many questions) and it was really great. I'll try and get a writeup on Wednesday evening. --TBird<br /> &lt;!-- Btw, today was Mike's second wedding anniversary, and Missy's pregnant) --&gt;<br /> :That was not Tbird. Look [here]. The editor's IP starts with a 6. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thunderbird is not at home, so the IP address would be different. It could still be him, but I would like him to log in if possible. If he can't log in at the convention, he'll figure something out or log in when he gets home later tonight. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Too late. His IP's been blocked. He'll log in when he needs to, but I have one question: If he was TBird, why did he sign TBird instead of his IP (accidentally typed &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; without knowing he wasn't logged in) or with his sig (or siggie, I guess)? It doesn't seem right. I mean, if he can edit annonymously, he can edit logged on, and I think the first thing he'll ask if he can't log in is why he can't. Plus, he would know that an IP editing as a user would most likely be reverted. We could unblock the IP and see if TBird can log on now, I guess. Wouldn't hurt, but I still think it wasn't him. I dunno. Oh, also, if it was him, sorry, just don't want anybody impersonating you. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::We didn't block the IP. There are several reasons why he might not have been able to log in (if the computer he was using didn't accept cookies, for example). I think the edits by the IP match TBird's style, but I'm being cautious for now. I'm patient; if I have to I can wait for him to get home to confirm. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Ye of little faith :-P You didn't recognize my unique writing style? I just didn't really feel like logging in for one or two edits. I probably should have, but meh. In any case, all I said was true, and more. I left a message on the IRC with Phlip, but it should still be there if you scroll up, to see a brief summary of the event. I'll get a writeup started tomorrow night. For now, I've gotta be up in five and a half hours for work, so I'm going to bed. '''EDIT:''' Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention on IRC. Let's just say I'll be kicking myself for months for not bringing my DS to Flashforward... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I thought it was you (see above where I say it sounds like your style), but the info was too good, so I thought it was best to wait for confirmation. I guess you'll log in from now on. :-P Actually, the only reason I had any question was because the IP you were using came up as being based in ''Chicago'', which was pretty weird. I admit it would have been quite unlikely for someone to be imitating you, but we've been burned before. Anyways, great jaerb!!! Many combolations on your successful mission!! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Parse error! ==<br /> <br /> In HomsarQuote.php. You sure are good at bringing the Wiki to its knees ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I always seem to forget semicolons at the end of lines. And it never fails that someone notices my mistakes, even when they're there for less than a minute. :P &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah, missing semicolons, the bane of a programmer's existence. (Unless you're coding in Lisp. Then it's missing parens.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I used to do C++ so remember the semi-colon plight, now I do mostly webdesign and so am plagued to make sure I have the same number of &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;div&gt;'s and &lt;/div&gt;'s&lt;/nowiki&gt;. If I don't comment every single one I'm lost. My lastest creation is [http://www.odua.org this] It's mostly done although I can't seem to get things to line-up the way I want and no matter what changes that I make, it will only look right on one browser at a time! Grrrrr. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == You are s-smart ==<br /> <br /> Brilliant random Homsar quote thingy!<br /> <br /> You're pretty good at this, obviously. Take a look at [[Talk:Sound Effects#Ogg? why not mp3?|this discussion]] and my idea at the end - would this be something possible to improve usability? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I guess you're gonna have to s-spell out what your idea is, because I'm not quite s-seeing it. S-sorry if that cancels out the s-smart. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The ogg files. They confuse people, many players in use don't use them right out of then box. But Wikipedia has an interesting solution which we might be able to emulate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I should have been more s-specific. What I meant was, when I went to the page about the s-symphony, I wasn't s-sure what their s-solution was. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::In the 1st paragraph, there's the Listen link (after the musical example) - there's a (listen (help·info)) thingy. The &quot;Help&quot; goes to instructions on how to get your player to play oggs. I mean, I was stymied by them until I was researchiong (on that page, actually) and stumbled upon that.<br /> <br /> ::::Of course, I don't know enough about Wiki to know a) if this can be done on our system, 2) how to do it even if it can be done, and III) if this sort of a thing would require &quot;discussion&quot; &quot;someplace&quot;. SO that's why I ask you, Mr. S-smart. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Just copy the source code of [[Wikipedia:Template:Audio]] to [[Template:Audio]] (or something like that), adjust the help link to the media help page on this Wiki, and it should work fine (apart from maybe the speaker icon). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It's that easy, eh? :\ Well, it'd take me a few days to figure all that out! (I spent a good part of today trying, haven't gotten far. Will keep trying.) But if someone who already has all that figured out wants to take up the cause, we could have better usability sooner. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Talk page rate ==<br /> These days, I've been trying to make more main namespace contribs and less user talk page contribs. The question is, has my diet (sorta) done any good for me? Check my contribs. On a rate of 1 to 10, how much would you say I've improved? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 04:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Er, maybe we should give it a little more time before making a 1 to 10 rating. I say that because in the last three days, you have made more user edits than and ''twice'' as many user talk edits as all your main, main talk, HRWiki, and HRWiki talk edits ''combined'' (not counting sandbox). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Gulp. Back to work on the random refreshings. :( &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I just did like fifteen. Sweet. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yeah, you've been doin' a LOT of edits, Seriously. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Um, sorry about those things on tyhe videlectrix games. You're gonna be doing that for a long time. :( &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Nah, you're fine. I've always been bugged by the word &quot;exist&quot; on those pages. How can we say that the games don't exist? I can see a screenshot right next to them! :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Yeah, that's true. At least I added some good edits to my reh&amp;mdash;zoom. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==WikiTroll==<br /> <br /> OK then, I'll stop, but why don't you want me editing that page? {{User:Granola/sig}} 02:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Because it's fine the way it is, and you really don't need to be editing meta-information about yourself. Besides, as you said on the talk page, that record isn't even that important anyway. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Fair enough. I just wanted it to be accurate, even though it isn't necessary in the first place. {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Granola==<br /> <br /> Why did you delete my old userpage? {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That is not your user page. If you continue to claim that name, I will treat you as though it was still your username (i.e. I will go back to blocking you). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::OK...I just thought it would be useful to redirect it, so that people who went looking for it would come to the right place...&lt;strike&gt;can at least have the talkpage redirect? People have been known to still post on the old one, and I think it's useful to redirect that one, so that posts won't lie around unanswered for a long time.&lt;/strike&gt; {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Never mind about the talkpage, I logged in as Yeltensic, went into my preferences, and enabled the notification e-mail in case the old talkpage is edited, so it's covered now. {{User:Granola/sig}} 08:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You've said that I can't have &quot;Yeltensic&quot; as my sig, as I did for a while, or have &quot;I'm Yelt&quot; in parentheses; would it be OK if I included in my sig a link to my Wikipedia userpage, without the word &quot;Yeltensic&quot; visibly included, in this way: [[Wikipedia:User:Yeltensic42|With crap]], '''[[User:Granola|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:trebuchet ms;color:gray&quot;&gt;Granola&lt;/span&gt;]]''' '''([[User talk:Granola|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: trebuchet ms;color:gray&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]]''' '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:gray&quot;&gt;&amp;bull;&lt;/span&gt;''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Granola|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:trebuchet ms;color:gray&quot;&gt; C&lt;/span&gt;]])'''? I won't change it until you approve that suggestion (if you do). {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I see that you have a mention of it on your user page as well as a userbox linking to Wikipedia. Those are both fine with me. (By the way, just thought I'd point out that (H*R/wiki-related) userboxes are allowed here.) But I don't think it's appropriate for your sig at this time. You need to stop focusing on your old name and work on making a new, better name for yourself here. Crapfully crappy, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::That sounds reas-ON-able. I'm pretty attached to the name Yeltensic, since I've been using it for quite some time before HRWiki, but it ''is'' my fault that the name is tainted here. Oh well. {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cheddarlebbon ==<br /> I hate to butt in with that conversation, especially because I've been under fire for that recently, but I am sure that IP address is not him. Cheddarlebbon does not type in caps, for example. He also has several spelling errors in his sentences. I'm just putting this up, because I want to make sure he does not get the password. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for your concern. Don't worry though: Per our policy, I will not be resetting the account without some kind of proof. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::&lt;s&gt;grood&lt;/s&gt;Good. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == My Userbox ==<br /> <br /> Hey! Jerk! Why don't you stay offa my userpage and let me make my own userbox there! I didn't put it on the userbox list! It was isolated to my page! I really don't know what your deal is, but you need to get over it if it upset you that much. Maybe I should edit your page without asking you, huh? I think I can safely say that I was following the guidelines for my personal image. Now If you'll excuse me, I'm going to put it back up. No thank you very much, {{User:Republic of Stan/sig}}<br /> :''This discussion was originally continued at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[&lt;/nowiki&gt;User talk:Republic of Stan &amp;rarr; Userboxes]]. I had originally suspected him of being a sockpuppet of Drwho?, and that turned out to be correct.''<br /> <br /> == Most of it? ==<br /> <br /> Query: Why do you only own &quot;most of&quot; the figurine set 1? Don't use that old excuse of &quot;oh, my dog ate Marzipan!&quot; :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :My friend gave me them for Christmas... except he apparently gave some of them to his brothers first. Hmm... Well, he did at least assure me that I got the best ones of the bunch. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Oookay. Which ones didn't you get? (Looks up at all fourteen Homestar Runner figures - from both sets - currently sitting above his computer.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: Oh, I knew you would ask that, but I'm really comfy here on the couch right now. :) I know for sure I have Homestar and Strong Bad, and Pom Pom I think. I don't have The Cheat or the KOT. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: KoT was the second set anyway. Sucks you wouldn't get The Cheat, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Aren't you supposed to get those free when you buy stuff? Don't you have like every single DVD and CD ever. Like ever. Ok so at least all the H*R related ones...--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Well, I got these ''years'' ago, back when you didn't get them free with everything. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Blocking durations ==<br /> <br /> As a senior sysop and an admin here, if we are being trolled by someone, for how long he or she should be blocked. I know that known trolls like NSMC, Dr. Who and others are blocked forever, but what about small calibar trolls? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It's pretty much a judgment call in almost all cases. For IP addresses, 1 to 3 days, depending on the severity of the vandalism. For ''really'' bad stuff, a week or so. If a vandal is obviously changing IPs within a narrow range, blocking the range X.X.X.0/24 (or 23) usually works. Users who make useful contributions should be reasoned with first if possible, not blocked. Accounts created for no purpose other than to vandalize should be blocked infinitely. Hope that helps! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you very much. It sure will help! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New sysops ==<br /> <br /> Was there a sysop nomination? If so, I'm surprised that Lapper wasn't one. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :''Anyone'' who had made any edit since around the beginning of February was considered. Of the ones we took, they were each chosen not only because they are deserving but also to fill certain niches. As we say, we will add new sysops as our circumstances warrant, and this time circumstances warranted the number and specific users that we took. I can name a half dozen other users who will someday make excellent sysops, and anyone who was not chosen this time should ''not'' read into it negatively in any way. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::When I posted the above, I couldn't say what I can say now: We were still considering some people, and some people simply don't check their email often enough! (Or they don't make their primary email available to the wiki, which is pretty much the same thing.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey, It's dot com, I see you having a lot of new sysops. Does that mean there won't be any new sysops for a while? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, I believe the seven new sysops that we have just inducted are it for a while. We've always got our eyes open, though. Remember also that ''all'' users can be important users. I did some of my best stuff (including STUFF) before I was promoted. (It's kinda funny too... what a lot of people don't realize is that sysop = more headaches.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::So like how long? Because I signed on on Feb. 24th. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It would be impossible to guess at this time, as there are just [[HRWiki:FAQ#How_do_I_become_an_admin_or_sysop.3F|too many factors]] that go into it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ah, I missed something - is there a page that lists the new sysops? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Special:Listusers/sysop]] or [[HRWiki:A History#Later additions]]. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Gotcha, thanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == User groups ==<br /> I have a question: I know what a sysop does, and I know what a beaurucrat does, but what do you get to do as a developer that nobody else can? I'm just wondering what it means it have the promotion. Thanks. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :For those of you following along at home, I was technically made a bureaucrat and a developer on the same day. The only reason I wasn't added to the developer group in the wiki software is because there's a subtle difference between being a developer and being in the developer group. At the time I was made a developer, the wiki developer group was inactive. Since then, we reenabled it, and when we did, I was put in the group, even though for practical purposes I was already in it. Make sense? Okay, now that we have that out of the way: Bureaucrats can assign and unassign users to groups (usually to make sysops), and can also rename users. People in the developer group can lock and unlock the database. That originally was the only function available, but since then I have extended it somewhat using my developer abilities. And here's the distinction: a developer has direct access to the server and database. They can see server logs, view raw database data, and modify system software (to improve upon it). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::And is there anything special about Joey Day's &quot;proprietor&quot; group? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> :::No, it was created for purely narcissistic purposes (Joey's words, not mine).&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: This is true. There is nothing special about the [[Special:Listusers/proprietor|proprietor]] user group. I'm not usually one to be so narcissistic, but I thought it made some sense, and I did it mostly because I could. We've never been able to create custom user groups before MediaWiki 1.5, or I might've created a proprietor group a long time ago. Actually, in a way this is the opposite of narcissistic, as it allows for the possibility of others having proprietorship at some time in the future, and adds a layer of abstraction between myself and the title of proprietor. In the past, we've always linked directly to my user page in places where we mention the proprietor, but we should change all those places to link to the proprietor list. I'll get right on that. &amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dr. Who Never Strikes Again ==<br /> <br /> Ok. I've got to admit, somewhat grudgingly, that you caught me earlier. I AM in fact Dr. Who. But I really wasn't planning on using this account for vandalism. Yesterday after I attacked the fanstuff wiki I saw that I had hurt someone's feelings and I felt terrible when it put a personal face on what I'd done. I'm ready and willing to talk to you about why and how I did all of that trolling if you just give me this chance. Of course, I would understand if you banned me right away, but I'm asking you to give it a try. Sincerely, [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]<br /> :I can't speak for all the other sysops, but I won't ban you if you're willing to talk civilly. The whole reason I posted on your talk page was to find out about you and talk to you. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Ok then, here goes. I believe the first trolling I ever did was under the name &quot;you smell&quot;, where I added that phrase several times to the [[Characters]] page. I decided that it was funny that someone coming to learn would see that (yes, I know, very immature and stupid of me). That was the full extent that I knew of what I was doing. I later learned of the concept of wiki vandalism from Uncyclopedia. I have been using this wiki for years without knowing exactly how maintenance worked; when I did I became jealous of the sysops. I wished to make a name for myself here without doing years of work (rather like WoW, I was trying to gain infamy). My attacks became somewhat meaner as I went on, and I attacked users when I got tired of simply tampering with content. I started thinking of ways to justify it to myself, such as that injustice was being done to me over userboxes, or that my name alone had gotten me banned. I guess I saw it as a way to &quot;break loose&quot; because I am normally NOT a rude or confrontational person. I just stopped for two reasons: I was ashamed of myself, and I was inspired by the way [[User:Granola|Yeltensic]] had turned himself around. In any case, I am deeply sorry. The least I can do is tell you how I did the vandalism so that you can better protect against anything that might happen in the future.<br /> ::I used two dynamic IP's: Safari and AOL. Aol has a set of three or four dynamic IP's that change within a narrow range from page to page. Safari's IP changes once every day, but it usually retains the first two segments (75.123.12.32, 75.123.32.34.... and so on). I opened numerous windows at once and typed in my edits and (sigh) summeries. This way the vandalism was at a high speed. I hope at least me telling you this helps (or rather, that you won't need it). [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]<br /> :::I am willing to give you a chance. Several of your latest incarnations have actually showed some promise, and I hope you can build on that. Once again, I can't speak for all users and sysops, but in general we're a pretty forgiving bunch. I caution you that you will have to prove yourself (assuming others also give you a chance), and our collective patience with you might not be what it would be for a normal new user.<br /> :::Thanks for the technical info (although I did already know that, by the way; that's how I was able to post on your talk page before you'd even made any real edits). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> &lt;!--UNLESS YOU ARE A SYSOP or are TACO SALAD, please DO NOT post in this thread--&gt;<br /> <br /> == Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==<br /> <br /> Greetings Dotty, how are you. I havn't spoken with you in a while. how have you been these couple of weeks? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Uhh Dotty, where are you, are you busy or something? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Hello, Nikolce. I'm fine, and I hope you're well. Yeah, life can be kind of hectic sometimes. But we gotta keep on tranglin'! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == SPONGE 001 ==<br /> <br /> Who is your favorite H*R character?[[User:SPONGE 001|SPONGE 001]] 19:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Documentary ==<br /> Thanks for that page move. As I saw the whole thing unfold on Recent changes, I thought &quot;what the heck is he doing&quot;? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No problem. Hey, do me a favor: Instead of pressing [edit] over on the right to start a new topic, please press the [ + ] (plus) button at the top of the page (in between the main edit button and the history button). (Or, at the very least, please clear the old subheading from the edit summary.) Thanks. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I always wondered what that button did. Cool, I'll try hard to remember to. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New special page ==<br /> <br /> I've been seeing a lot of pages with the name Test being deleted, along with images. May I ask what going on? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're testing something.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::What I meant was what are you testing. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 11:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::It's a special page that has to do with [[Special:Personalimages|image management]]. &lt;s&gt;It's not ready yet,&lt;/s&gt; but when it is, it will be linked from an HRWiki page. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::That's really, really cool. I've been waiting for something like that... A way to see who owns what image(s) quickly. This should certainly be helpful in managing 'em, eh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::::Indeed. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==H*bad==<br /> <br /> I would like to request to have my user name changed from H*bad to something else, at the fanstuff wiki, how do I do that?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If the name of our [[HRWiki:Changing username|changing username]] page is any indication, I estimate it would be at [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Changing username|HRFWiki:Changing username]]. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == IP Checking ==<br /> <br /> There's been a fair amount of debate about accounts that seem to be all created by H*bad. Since we lack any ability to check for IP addresses, would you be able to see if the following accounts share the same IP?: [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad|H*bad]], [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad1|H*bad1]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar Runner|Darth Homestar Runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar runner|Darth Homestar runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Guyforerunner|Guyforerunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Godzillarunner|Godzillarunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Homestarrunner101|Homestarrunner101]], [[HRFWiki:User:Running along|Running along]]. Any info you could get would be much combobulated. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :They're the same (except I'm not sure about Guyforerunner). See also [[User_talk:Tom#Emergency|this discussion]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::What in the world. My friend created H*bad1 at my house. Thats why he has the same IP address as mine, I believe. He called me up and told me that you guys are like people who want to put salt in an open wound. Why you do this to him? I will keep on fighting this little thing about H*bad1. I explained all of this cwap at [[HRFWiki:My dark side|My dark side]]--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Um... yeah. Okay. First of all, don't let people make accounts using your computer, and if you do, have them choose a different name from you. (That still doesn't explain all the other names, by the way.) But I don't really want to get into it here, as it has been discussed on other pages, like you point out. Super Sam simply asked me whether the IPs matched and I answered him. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == MediaWiki Extensions ==<br /> <br /> Cool, two headings in a row. Alrighty, I have two things to talk about. One - would you be able to post your source code for the extensions you wrote somewhere, such as [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mediawiki_Extensions here]? Two - do you know how to add a tab from within an extension? I figured out how to do it by editing SkinTemplate.php, but is there any way to have the same effect through an extension? (I'm trying to add a purge tab next to watch/unwatch). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I do plan to publish the extensions I have written. They need a bit of polishing, standardizing, and commenting before I would post them in a public place, however. As for the tab thing, I'm guessing you want more of an add-on file rather than a patch in the original file? I'm not currently familiar enough with how the tabs are generated to be able to give you a good answer to that one, but I would be surprised if it could be done with a standalone extension. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Alrighty, thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:42, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Here's a little way to add a purge button using [[User:Super Sam/monobook.js|your monobook.js]] that I came up with and Dot com fixed to actually work properly:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;//Add purge cache button<br /> function addPurgeButton()<br /> {<br /> var href = document.location.href;<br /> { <br /> var historyHref = document.getElementById( &quot;ca-history&quot; ).firstChild.href;<br /> var div = document.getElementById( &quot;p-cactions&quot; );<br /> var ul = div.getElementsByTagName( &quot;ul&quot; )[0];<br /> var newLi = document.createElement( &quot;li&quot; );<br /> var newA = document.createElement( &quot;a&quot; );<br /> newA.setAttribute( &quot;href&quot; , historyHref.replace( &quot;=history&quot; , &quot;=purge&quot; ) );<br /> var text = document.createTextNode( &quot;Purge&quot; );<br /> newA.appendChild( text );<br /> newLi.appendChild( newA );<br /> ul.appendChild( newLi );<br /> }<br /> }<br /> if ( window.addEventListener ) window.addEventListener( &quot;load&quot; , addPurgeButton , false );<br /> else if ( window.attachEvent ) window.attachEvent( &quot;onload&quot;, addPurgeButton );&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> :::Let us know how that works.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dr.... Who? ==<br /> <br /> Who was Dr. Who? why did he/she get kicked off so many times? I am asking this because as I travel around this Wiki I saw alot about Dr. Who. Just curious, {{User:Grit7/sig}}<br /> :See [[#Dr. Who Never Strikes Again]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Captcha on move page ==<br /> <br /> I'd like to ask you a question, and if it's been asked before, I'm very sorry. I'd just like to ask what the purpose of applying a CAPTCHA to the Move Page over on the Fanstuff Wiki is. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It's to prevent a bot from being able to move pages as vandalism, and to discourage human vandals from doing the same. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::If that's the case, why isn't it the same here? If I recall correctly (which is unlikely), this knowledge base has had more page-move vandalism than the Fanstuff. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Er... It ''is'' the same here. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh. I must be out of date then. Never mind. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Actually, it's not. Well, at least, it's not for me with my almighty sysoply privilages. Is it like that for ordinary users? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, it is. I had to use it until a couple weeks ago when I was sysopped. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Oh. Huh. I didn't even realize. That puts WoW in a whole new light of non-life. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Grizzly Chomps ==<br /> <br /> Hi It's dot com,<br /> <br /> I had a question, and I'm not sure where else to put it. Can you explain why you didn't you think my &quot;Grizzly chomps&quot; fun fact in the Candy Product was a good one? I may be biased, but I think it applies pretty well. TBC have been known to reference old and obscure pop-culture items in the past, and I can't think of any other &quot;pre-bitten&quot; candy product sold in stores. I'd like to think they had this product in mind when they made the toon. You can even Google for it and read up on it.<br /> <br /> Anyhow, I just wanted to know what my options were for debating this fact. Is this is something I could put in STUFF for debate? And if so, how?<br /> <br /> The submission was:<br /> *The &quot;built-in bite&quot; shape of SBLOUNSKCHED! may refer to Grizzly Chomps, a [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]]-brand treat introduced in 1992. The package included two chocolate cupcakes with a bite-mark shape cut out of them, and the package bore a cartoon bear saying, &quot;I start 'em, you finish 'em.&quot;<br /> <br /> :I removed it because the Grizzly Chomps are so old and obscure that any similarity to SBLOUNSKCHED is likely just a coincidence. None of the secondary details match, especially the reason for the bite. In the case of Grizzly Chomps, the bear helps you eat it for some reason, but Strong Bad calls the bite in his candy a security measure to deter others from eating it. I think that TBC independently thought it was funny to have a bite missing from the candy, and to suggest otherwise is too much speculation for my taste.<br /> :&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That said, I am more than willing to help you set up a STUFF item. The relevant instructions are at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newfact]]. You need to start at &quot;2. The STUFF subpage&quot;. Hope that helps! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I went ahead and STUFF'd it for you. You can have the next one. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Thanks! I appreciate that. [[User:Compdude|Compdude]]<br /> <br /> == Another recent block ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the [[Special:Ipblocklist|Block list]], I saw that you banned User:Fire Man. Are you sure you've got the right guy? Looking at [[Special:Contributions/Fire Man|his contribs]] he only made one edit and it wasn't anything bad. He seems like a perfectly fine user. I think he's innocent so you should unblock him. Any reason why you blocked him in the first place? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You are correct about the number and type of contribs for that account. I am unblocking it on a provisional basis. I remind whoever needs to hear it that vandalism and flagrant abuse of the wiki's policies will not be tolerated. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Clamburger ==<br /> <br /> Could you please mark [[HRFWiki:User:Clamburger|Clamburger]] as a bot on the fanstuff? It's really cluttering Recent Changes. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Why are you asking ''me'' when [[User:Tom|Tom]] has [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 4#The Clamburger Bot|already given you an answer]] on this one? If you want to appeal, you'll have to take it up with him. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fanstuff Extensions ==<br /> <br /> Can you please put the autocolumn and random Homsar quote extensions onto the Fanstuff? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Done. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Declaring War ==<br /> <br /> Isn't there a rule against declaring war? Isn't that anti-Wiki? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think anyone's ever enumerated a list here that specifically included &quot;do not declare war,&quot; but I can say for sure that it's a very &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;type=block&amp;user=It%27s+dot+com&amp;page=User%3AHeadbad+and+strongbody bad idea]&lt;/span&gt;. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&amp;curid=18299&amp;diff=295049&amp;oldid=295009&amp;rcid=242036 Indeed]&lt;/span&gt;. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: *sigh* Yeah, that. If he keeps it confined to what he's already said, then I'm probably not going to worry about it too much (although I did have to &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&amp;diff=295074&amp;oldid=295057 remove some trolling]&lt;/span&gt; ''&lt;small&gt;(for those just passing by, note the difference between trolling and vandalism)&lt;/small&gt;''), but if he actually moves the article against consensus or tries to escalate his &quot;war&quot; in any other way, there will be trains dropped. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I'm just glad I'm on your side. Trains are dangerous! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::See, that's the thing. I hate that sides even have to be taken. I had hoped when I made &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&amp;diff=293660&amp;oldid=293654 this edit]&lt;/span&gt; that we could reach a suitable compromise (which seems to be fine with everyone except him). *sigh* again. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Politics are inevitable. Take it from an old man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Heh. If you're older than me, I'll be surprised. I tried to find it in your user space but came up empty. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Hmm... I've just been informed that you ''are'' in fact older than me. Huh. Now I'm just the ''third''-oldest user (that I know of). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::So who's the oldest (or 2nd oldest, if it's me)? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::[[User:Bill|Bill]] is in his early forties. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::That makes me #2, and you #3 AFAWK. Interesting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::I left a note on his talk page, and I think it knocked some sense into him. He's actually a good guy&amp;mdash;assuming that he doesn't offend people so much anymore. Anyway, back to my wikivacation. Preeow. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==[[HRFWiki:User:Stinkobad1|Stinkopuppet]]==<br /> Super Sam was going to ask you this, but he says he did not have enough time. There is a user by the name of Stinkobad1 on the Fansguff Wiki. He requests an IP address check to make sure there is not another feud, and another reason to hate H*Bad. ;) Thanks. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Um, please? I know you're on, and it's urgent...:( &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think I'd like Super Sam to ask his own questions. If he doesn't have the time, then it must not be that urgent. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Hooray! It's me! Anyway, could you please crosscheck the IP addresses of Stinkobad1, H*bad, and while you're at it, The thing? Many thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::None of those users coincide. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flagrant System Error ==<br /> Your userpage is [[car|pimp-ed out]]! How'd you get it like that? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:22, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oops! You bwoke it! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Now that it's all over, you can tell me how you did it! [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Wheeeeeeee!]] - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Er, well, I put special clauses in the PHP code itself (that actually builds each page) that suppressed the header and footer and changed the background to blue and the text to white for any page called &quot;[[User:It's dot com]]&quot;. Then I just changed the text to the &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com&amp;oldid=299269 error message]&lt;/span&gt;. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == My editing a-broke ==<br /> Hey. This is Seriously. For somereason, my account can't edit. An internal error keeps happening. I'm seeing if I can use this to edit...The thing is, though, is that everyone else is still editing. It's getting strange. {{unsigned|Seriously}}<br /> :What is the error? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'll look into it and try to fix the problem. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 'Tavi monobook ==<br /> <br /> Look, 'Tavi is somehow halting the appear of my monobook.css. Is there anyway to make it so that there are styled links to homestarrunner.com, and other sites? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Try editing [[Special:Mypage/tavistyle.css|the right page]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 04:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I wouldn't even bother doing that. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot net]] 04:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Okay. I'll do it, and you won't. ;-&gt; (Ima try!) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, it's working, but, you may have another reason for telling me not to bother doing that. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Who, me? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot net]] 04:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what happen to your userpage ==<br /> <br /> Hey dotty, last time i checked your userpage, there was the blue fragment erroe page, what happen? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, 'twas an April Fool's joke. See [[#Flagrant System Error|Flagrant System Error]] above. (By the way, I'm really not very keen on &quot;dotty&quot;, just so you know. See the top of my (working) user page.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> OOO i'm sorry, i'll just call youi dot com then, if you like?<br /> :&quot;It's dot com&quot;. Or &quot;Dot com&quot;. Either one, really. They both fit. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thanks! ==<br /> <br /> I just thought I'd thank you for unblocking me. Sorry about that joke, I guess I'm just ''way'' different than everyone else here. What I did was still kind of disruptive, though, sorry. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}<br /> <br /> ==IP check==<br /> Can you please do me a favor? I need you to check if Crusaders IP is 69.160.0.227. Please answer as soon as you can.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Access to that information is restricted, and unfortunately it's above your paygrade. Sorry. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I need to know, because I believe that he trolled the Funny Stuff in which he is on. Come to the [http://www.editthis.info/funny_wiki Funny Wiki] and tell me there please?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Theme song ==<br /> <br /> There's some sort of unwritten rule that I live my life by: Every awesome person, by default, needs a theme song. Yes, you heard me right, a theme song. Why don't you try a song already titled after you: [http://www.msu.edu/~larowebr/Brent%20LaRowe%20-%20Dot%20Com.mp3 Dot Com]. (&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Just to note, we still need one for Abdi. ;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}<br /> <br /> ==My bro==<br /> Is it ok if my brother creates a user on here. This is so you guys don't think that I am creating sockpuppets. He is also wanting the User:lil H*bad.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :He should ''not'' have that name. Have him pick something original. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::He said &quot;The cheatman&quot;. Would that be fine? Just you know FYI.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Userboxes ==<br /> <br /> Hey there Dot com, I just have a question about my [[User:DBK/userbox|userboxes]]. When I try to make it align to the left side, it only goes to the right. Then, when I put it in my about me section, it goes above my text so it looks weird. Do you know what to do? {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I tweaked it a bit, removing divs in certain spots and putting in some in other places. It was mostly trial and error, though. Maybe that will get you started. (I can't really say that all the scroll boxes make your page especially easy to read, but that's just my opinion.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah I realized that, I was pretty much experimenting with that stuff before. I got rid of some and just kept scroll buttons on the lists in my page, like my favorite music and cool users. Any way I was just curious why it wasn't aligning to the right, and now I'll experiment more. Thanks! {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::No probalo! :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TaviStyle ==<br /> <br /> Hello. Is there any way to put the TaviStyle skin as a choosable skin on the Fanstuff Wiki? Thank you. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 14:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hello? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 22:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not ignoring you. TaviStyle will be included when we upgrade to 1.6 soon. Until then, we've frozen changes to the software so that we have a correct frame of reference. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Oh, okay. Thank you. (I just wanted to know when it will be uploaded.) --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Any chance we could get a version we could use on Wikipedia? Or one that I could at least install on the test Wiki I've got on my PC? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Email ==<br /> Hey Dot comster. Can you check this email I sent you real quick? Thanks. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I saw that. Why don't you ask a fanstuffer to send that for you. Better yet, use the fanstuff's email features to send it to him. By the way, what happened to pressing the [+] button at the top for new topics? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sorry, forgot about that. I'll try to be better (though it doesn't really matter anymore, I'm just here for the email). I tried emailing it to him, but he doesn't have an email address in his preferences. I'll copy the sent email and send it to someone. Sorry for all the trouble. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Wait, I can't. Since I did it from the wiki and not from Gmail, I can't cut and paste from any source. Looks like you're stuck with the burden. Once again, sorry for all the trouble. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Wikipedia: &lt;/nowiki&gt; Extension]] ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure whether you made the extension that lets you link directly to Wikipedia articles using the &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Wikipedia:Article]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; syntax, but if you did, can you share it? I'd like to use it on my own wiki. If you didn't, do you happen to know who did or where it's available? Thanks. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's a standard feature of every MediaWiki install. See [[Meta:Help:Interwiki linking]] for more information.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sockpuppet vandels ==<br /> <br /> They might just have the same IP. Maybe not the same peson. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :There are only a few ways that could be true, The Thing, and that's been taken into account, I'm sure. With only a few exceptions, if it's the same IP it's the same user. That's just how they work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == IP ==<br /> <br /> Do you use a special page to find the IPs? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, I got special pages all right, The thing. I'm like, Discount Special Pages Warehouse over here. Some of my special pages are of such significance that they can't be shown in anything but WIDESCREEEEEEEEEEEEN. Left side: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAH! Right side... &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::What do you use? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I've got ones on this wiki. The fanstuff wiki. Even wikis we've just made up! How can I make these pages any cooler? Just ask for me, the guy that works here at the special page place. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question ==<br /> <br /> If I wanted to program a WikiBot, would it be HAVE to be in PHP, Python, or MySQL? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I'm pretty sure the answer there is yes in most cases, it's moot if you want to use one here. Only developers can run Wikibots. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}<br /> ::While that's true, Kookykman, he might asking in general. Sorry, Bluebry. I'm not the one to ask about bots. You might try Joey, Tom, Phlip, or even others. I'm much more content to hack the software from the inside rather than use a bot from the outside. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Unless you have &amp;uuml;ber-1337 haxx0r access like our friend It's dot com here, the only way you're going to be doing anything to the wiki is with normal page loads, ie exactly as if you were editing it by hand, just automated. So any language that you can use to access the net you could theoretically use to write a bot. However since many languages have packages to simplify HTTP, these languages would be easier to use, and some languages (like Python) even have pre-built wikibot frameworks for you to work off. But this doesn't say you can't go and write your wikibot in pretty much any language &amp;ndash; it's simply a matter of how hard it is to write. Python is a simple-to-learn language anyways. I doubt you would ever write a bot that used PHP, and rarely would you write one that used MySQL. And of course if you prefer to work with &lt;code&gt;socket&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;connect&lt;/code&gt; in C, there's nothing stopping you from doing that either... it would just be extremely tedious to write. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Now, I'm still new to programing, but I heard C. Would C be anything like C++? And I don't want to hear anything about developer status either. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dangeresque change ==<br /> <br /> (First off I'm new here so I don't know if I'm doing this right. Just so you know)<br /> <br /> I'm the guy that changed the Dangeresque character page to note that dangeresque's glasses somehow stay on his head despite his total lack of ears. You changed it back, saying &quot;(that's true, but it's not really very notable)&quot; <br /> <br /> Not notable? This is homestarwiki! You've got an entire page on the battle of strongbadia, despite the fact that it only applies to one email. And allow me to quote some other character pages...<br /> <br /> Homestar: &quot;Though he lacks a visible pair of arms, he is still able to function as though he has them, being able to carry and throw things and even type proficiently. It's generally accepted that either he does have arms, but for reasons that are never explained, they are invisible, or that he has limited telekinetic powers. &quot;<br /> <br /> Bubs: &quot;His facial configuration is puzzling; in Pumpkin Carve-nival, he appears to have a safety pin stuck through his face above an internal ear.&quot;<br /> <br /> Marsipan: &quot;Like Homestar, Marzipan has no visible arms, though she is able to interact with the world as though she did, being able to pick up and move objects, and even play a guitar. It is generally accepted that either her arms are invisible, or that she has limited telekinetic powers.&quot;<br /> <br /> Strong Bad:&quot;He has boxing gloves for hands (that always have square window reflections on them, no matter where he is), and a lucha libre mask for a head [...] Strong Bad may also have a Homestar-like telekinesis&quot;<br /> <br /> Um...so yeah. I'm not mad or anything. I just wanted to point out that dangeresque's floating glasses can probably be considered significant if all this other stuff is on the site. (Hey, you could even tie it in with Strong Bad's rumored telekinesis, right?)<br /> <br /> In conclusion, sorry this comment was so long. I guess I'll check back on this page later to see if you offer a counter-argument. Thanks for reading!<br /> <br /> :First of all, let me say thank you for taking the time to write such a lengthy comment. Why not take a second and [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]]? I agree with you that Dangeresque's glasses do not seem to have anything supporting them (although I suppose one could argue that they are held to his face by tension or even glue). My main problem with noting it on the Dangeresque page is that it really breaks up the flow of that sentence (which is based largely on the [[Dangeresque (theme)|Dangeresque theme]]). In addition, the information isn't really that central to the character; it's more like [[TBC]] just worked in the glasses as best they could given the features of Strong Bad's head. I'm not suggesting that we not note the information ''anywhere''. Perhaps you could put it in the list of [[Lack of Visible Arms#References to Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts|references to other apparently invisible body parts]]. Again, thanks for your note, and welcome to the wiki! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Broken link ==<br /> <br /> Just letting you know, the link near the bottom of your page that is supposed to lead to the discussion concerning the email blockquote styles is broken. That discussion was archived, so it should link to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email/Archive#New email format...]] instead. See ya! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I need some help ==<br /> <br /> Hey there its dot com, how are you, how;s easter in america(if you celebrate it?)?<br /> <br /> I need to ask you something, do you happen to know any Homestar runner wikipedias that are star wars fans?<br /> <br /> by the way, happy easter<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns2=1&amp;ns3=1&amp;search=star+wars&amp;searchx=Search quick search]&lt;/span&gt; in the user and user talk namespaces turns up a number of users who may be fans of Star Wars. Hope this helps. &amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 02:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just a little hello ==<br /> <br /> Hey there, It's dot com.<br /> Homsarroks here. I just wanted to drop by and say hey and that you're cool.<br /> <br /> {{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 13:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> P.S. Just out of curiosity, why did you revert my edits on the HR Wiki article on wikipedia? I tried to include the most important users on the wiki there (e.g. you, Tom, BazookaJoe, Some H*R Themed Username, etc.) and put accurate descriptions on what you did there. I'm not mad or anything, just a bit confused. Get back to me when you can.&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> P.P.S. I left this message on your account on Wikipedia first, but I decided to put it on both your accounts so that you might get it sooner.<br /> <br /> See yas!<br /> <br /> :Actually, you didn't include BazookaJoe. I put him in shortly before removing the list. The reason I took it out is that it's so subjective. What makes a user notable? That list could have easily been four times as long. I decided that it would be better not to have it at all. As something of a compromise, I inserted a link that pointed to the list of sysops (even though I know that not all of the sysops are active). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Okay, I can understand that. THanks for the reply.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We need the &quot;Recent Changes&quot; notice to be at the top of every page. ==<br /> <br /> Yeah. Not everybody checks that. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]]&lt;sup&gt;[[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Why do you need a sitenotice? People who don't check the recent changes just won't find out. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::So it's not really that big of a deal? --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]]&lt;sup&gt;[[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Personally, I'd recommend putting the notice, or something like it, on the Main Page. This is big news, and there are a lot of fans who may not find out because they don't have accounts, don't check their user pages, Watchlist or Recent Changes, etc. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yeah. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]]&lt;sup&gt;[[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::People who visit the wiki on such an informal basis as you describe are not likely to have the same feelings towards the situation as regular and power users like us. These types of users are the ones the &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:recentchangesnotice&amp;oldid=310518 current message]&lt;/span&gt; is directed towards. We've added it to the [[H*R.com updates 2006|historical record of events]], but we will not add it to the [[Template:whatsnew|current updates]] if [[The Brothers Chaps]] don't mention it on H*R.com. The general community can find out through the [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]] article, as well as various other mentions throughout several articles. Death is a touchy subject, especially when it effects our heroes. The Admins are treating this with the utmost discretion, please respect our decisions and the feelings of the Chapman family. Thanks.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hAcKEr ==<br /> <br /> Why did you write hAcKEr in binary in your User Box? Oh well... You don't have to answer. By the way, people say your cool. I guess I agree. [[User:Steve|Steve]] 22:01, 22 April 2006<br /> :I wrote hAcKEr, eh Steve? Heh, that's been there for months, and to the best of my knowledge you're the first one to decode it. (If you're not the first to decode it, then you're certainly the first to say anything.) I write extensions and make changes to the [[MW:How does MediaWiki work?|MediaWiki]] software at the [[Wikipedia:Source code|source-code]] level, which is called [[Wikipedia:Hacker|hacking]]. I am a MediaWiki [[Meta:How to become a MediaWiki hacker|hacker]] for this wiki. Thanks for noticing and posting! Talk atcha later! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Special Pages ==<br /> <br /> Can only Sysops edit Special Pages? --{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 00:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Generally, pages listed as [[Special:Specialpages|Special pages]] are ones that are protected or generated by the wiki. As such, they are not editable by the common user, or by anyone. What makes a page uneditable to a common user like you or I is the protect template. See the image on the Main Page for an example, no edits can be made to it by someone lower than sysop. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I understand, but how did someone add the template to recent changes? --01:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC){{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}<br /> :::The text on most special pages (including the recent changes page) is handled by pages in the &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&amp;from=&amp;namespace=8 MediaWiki namespace]&lt;/span&gt;. And yes, only sysops can edit these pages. The text in the message at the top of the recent changes, watchlists, and login screen is sub-controlled by a template ({{tl|recentchangesnotice}}) that we placed on the relevant MediaWiki pages. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Appropriate Username==<br /> I have a question about the user [[User:Old timey Strong Bad|Old timey Strong Bad]]. Is that username appropriate, because I think it isn't really due to the similarity to [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]. {{unsigned|Lopp3|21:35, 26 April 2006}}<br /> :Our general prohibition against using the name of a character only seems to extend to the main characters. Secondary or variant characters are generally okay. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Username Change==<br /> If at all possible, please get around to changing my username. I left two notes on the [[HRWiki:Changing username]] page, but I still haven't had my name changed after a few days. {{User:Lopp3/sig}} 14:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You left your first request for a username change at 00:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC), fourteen hours and twenty-one minutes before posting your note here. You left your second request for a username change at 12:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC), only twelve hours and sixteen minutes after your first request. It has not even been one day, let alone a &quot;few days.&quot; Please be patient.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 65.167.69.XX ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I did a little investigation. This IP range is notorious. I found blocks on it back to November, and comments that it is probably WoW. I know we gotta be reluctant to block a range, but I wanted to call your attention to this particular case. Take a look at the Block Log for the last 6 months to see what I am saying. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Poughwhatsie? ==<br /> <br /> Actually, that's what I thought when that addition showed up a few days ago. It seemed like ''completely'' random trivia until I looked down at the context; &quot;Poughkeepsie&quot; is the destination in Homestar's word problem about trains entering tunnels. I guess this addition was an attempt to explain its significance (otherwise, why should two guys in Atlanta choose it aside from the funny-sounding name?). But if it's reinstated, it would need some rewrite to explain that (so the reader doesn't have to do the same thing I did). &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Meh, I don't see the point of including all that info, especially if there's any kind of link that can be clicked. It's barely mentioned in the toon. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Patrolling ==<br /> <br /> Perhaps you can clear something up for me? Are all users allowed/encouraged to patroll recent changes, or only those who have committed to the official &quot;recent changes patrol&quot;? [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It's not necessary to sign up (although it's nice to know who has committed to the work). I never patrol an edit unless I am pretty sure of (1) the overall content of the article, (2) the intent of the editor, and (3) whether or not the edit is good for the article. (Vandal edits still get marked as patrolled, but the article is immediately reverted. Likewise, edits that add incorrect information are either reverted or reworked as the situation warrants. By marking an edit as patrolled, I am saying either that an edit was good or that I'll fix it.) Hope that helps! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It does. Someday I may sign up for the patrol, but I think I want to observe for a while first. I'm still really new at determining the validity of edits, as my [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Template:STUFF/senior_prom| recent adventure]] with STUFF demonstrates. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Even more recent block ==<br /> <br /> I was wondering about the IP address you just blocked. I looked at his contributions, and his vandalism wasn't much. At least it didn't deserve a month-long block, in my opinion. So why did you blcok him for that long? Also, how did you know he was using the computer system at that school? Quizzical in someplace beginning with Q, &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> : I understand that you want to feel like you're in the loop, but unfortunately you do not have the standing here to question my actions in this way. Rest assured that I know exactly what I'm doing and have discussed matters with other admins. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Sorry. I wasn't trying to question your authority. I know well enough through my experience here that you have some of the best judgment I've ever seen. I would never question your actions. If you took it seriously, I apologize. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Recent change of the template that says &quot;do not create this page&quot;==<br /> Absolutely brilliant. I had tried to edit the weather in london before, and it had the normal template. Now it's completely redone, including hatred by Strong Bad. Dot com, you truly do rock. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, now I get it. There's a template for each one. Both are really funny, actually. Great job. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Expanded basic cable ==<br /> <br /> Hi. Master Chief has this friend and Masterchief always goes to his house. Yesterday i went to his house and When I went on this site, I saw that he had the same IP as me. So when Master Chief went to his friend's house he created sockpuppets and vandalized the wiki. Now he isn't Master Chief's friend anymore because they got into some fight. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Dude, you've fed us all so much crap over these last few months that I'm amazed that you think we're listening anymore. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::WHAT?!?! I didn't type that! It was probaly My brother or my cousin because I left myself logged on when I had to answer the phone. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Sure. Please see my above reply, and treble it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Is the rule about, &quot;my (Some family member) did this&quot; not allowed here as well.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 23:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::It isn't a rule per se, but without proof it is sure looked at with skepticism here. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Checking IPs==<br /> I know I can't check them on here, but I was wondering were you go to check who has what IP.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 21:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :There are around half a dozen ways, none of which I'm going to elaborate on here. If you look through the MediaWiki documentation, it might give you some insights. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::What is the link in the special pages that let me check Ip addresses. (The reason for my asking is because of my wiki.) The thing that I know that if I go there here, I will just get an error.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 16:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::If you installed your wiki yourself, then you already have the access necessary to check IPs. If it's a wiki-in-a-can, then it's likely that you don't have the extensions installed that you would need for that. Again, check your documentation. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dot com &amp; Tom ==<br /> <br /> Do both of you guys live in New York, as both of you were at a Yankees game? [[User:72.150.230.125|72.150.230.125]] 01:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No, I'm from Texas (see my user page for more info). The cap I have on is the official hat of the &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=tex Texas Rangers Baseball Club]&lt;/span&gt;. I was in the Tri-State area for three games that particular week: starting with Mets&amp;ndash;Phillies (in Philadelphia), then Yankees&amp;ndash;A's ([[:Image:Dot com &amp; Tom.jpg|pictured]]), and finishing with Rangers&amp;ndash;Yankees (which I am pleased to report [http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20060515&amp;content_id=1455525&amp;vkey=wrapup2005&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;team=away Texas won], 4&amp;ndash;2). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Wow, so you were right near me and I didn't know it. (I'm about 45 minutes or so west of Philly with good traffic.) You shoulda stopped by. ;)<br /> ::Also, I jus' have to say it, coz you know someone's thinking it: as one collective entity, you make It's Dot Tom. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::You see, Dorian? That joke was already thought of on IRC. Why won't you log there some time? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you ==<br /> Thank you very much. I don't appreciate being spoken about, especially when it was way back when. I've been thinking for a long time about how truly ungrateful he is, and it seems he's lost his privilege. Thanks so much. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Do you think he'll go crazy like last time? Do you think he'll make tons of sockpuppets? Is he immature enought o retaliate like this every time he gets blocked? {shudders} &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Meh, I don't really care that much. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yeah, I don't think many people care at all. I suppose we can just revert it again and again. It's not even like he's doing much inconvenience. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==IP address change==<br /> My Ip I think has changed. I need you to check my Ip address and tell me what it is. If I am right then my Ip address has changed for some reason.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :To check your IP, just log out. It will tell you your IP where your username usually is. If it doesn't show it there, then edit the sandbox and check the history. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> Am I allowed to say what it is?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Um, if you want to. Some people try to protect that kind of info. (It won't be news to me, though.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Here is the difference, this is my now 68.184.181.214, and here is what it was, 66.169.190.116. What is up with that?-{{User:H*bad/sig}}<br /> ::::Those IPs are both used by the [[isp|ISP]] in your area. Speaking of, are you a Rangers, Mavs, or Cowboys fan? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Mavs fan. I also love the rangers. Do you happen live in the Dallas/ fort worth area?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::No, but I do live in Texas. (I did live in Mesquite and work in Plano for a summer, though.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Hey, maybe we will run into each other at like a mavs or rangers game. I'll hear your name and look over and see you. Wouldn't that be nice?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::That'd be cool. I'm planning on going to the one about a week from now (Sunday night). You can see what I look like (in a Rangers cap even) in the photo on my user page. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :There is a major problem though, I kind of told my parents that I know everyone here from school, so I can't say hi to you.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's okay. Although I traditionally wear my Homestar running shirt to ballgames, so that other H*R fans can spot me. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Although, I could make up a story that would make it ok for me to be talking to you.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Idea'd==<br /> I have thought of something, that I think that needs changing. I believe that the fanstuff wiki should be able to use the Tavi style for our skin. Can that be arranged?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, is there a way to put it in a monobook? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I was talking about a way to have it as a seperate option.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I know. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::See [[#TaviStyle|above]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Wait we haven't upgraded yet??--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==User page==<br /> <br /> Are we allowed to have Wikipedia links on our userpages? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, yes. Check [[User:DorianGray|my page for a lot of them]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::See also [[HRWiki:User space]] for restrictions and conditions. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::OK, thanks. I wasn't sure if maybe it causes a problem, like there being offensive content on Wikipedia articles (vandalism or not) that HRWiki can't do anything about. Well then, going to add my links... [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Contribs ==<br /> Do you think you could add the 'ctrbs' extension to the Fanstuff Wiki's recent changes? It'd make my job there a little easier. Thanks in advance. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That is standard in 1.6 (where it will be spelled 'contribs', incidentally). I recognize that it's taking us longer than we originally anticipated to make the upgrade. Don't give up hope of its happening, though. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You added it here... is it difficult to implement? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, it involves making changes in about six spots of existing code. It's not just like adding an extension. If we don't upgrade real soon, then I'll see about making an exception to our lockout of changes to 1.5. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Troll sockpuppet==<br /> <br /> Could you please not be so quick to assume that's what I am? Chris/Yeltensic/Granola has relatives just like everyone else. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Should I..==<br /> <br /> ..remove the vandalism thing from Darth's userpage? Or should I wait for him to do that or what? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 23:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Where's the page?==<br /> <br /> When I try to get into the &quot;Where's the Cheat?&quot; page from the H*R updates page, it says &quot;no page with that title exists,&quot; but when I get into it from the &quot;Toons&quot; section, it works fine. Is there a broken link, or is the problem at my end? [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 14:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :To clarify, the link found at [[H*R.com updates 2002#Tuesday, February 26, 2002]] for [[Where's The Cheat?]] doesn't work, but the one at [[Toons#Big Toons]] does? What's really odd is that the error you're receiving is [[MediaWiki:Nogomatch]], which I thought was only shown when there's no exact match for a search done with the &quot;Go&quot; button. Is that the message you're seeing?&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The closest I came to duplicating this problem is to type &quot;Where's The Cheat&quot; (without a question mark) in the search box. It also gives a similar error if you type &quot;Where's The Cheat?&quot; (with or without the question mark) in the URL. I'm going to make a redirect to fix those two things, but otherwise I can't recreate the problem as described. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == When STUFF gets contradicted... ==<br /> <br /> Hi, It's dot com. Here's a question that's been on my mind for a very, very long time (4 months):<br /> <br /> What happens if we decline a STUFFed reference, thinking that it's unlikely, but then it turns out it was a reference after all? Say, for example, and I'm not saying that it is (even though I admit voting in favor), [[Happy Trogday]] WAS a homage to All Your Base, and that it is confirmed by TBC themselves on, say, the DVD commentary? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, we just write a nice letter to TBC explaining how they must be mistaken. Once we vote here, that's the end of it. :) Actually, this has happened several times (none springs to mind right this second, but I'm sure someone will list an example here shortly). In cases like that, we simply overturn our vote and note that TBC said so. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: I haven't yet looked it up, but I believe that &quot;Ryan S.&quot; from [[theme park]] was such an example. You're welcome. :D --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Talk:rampage#I.27m_on_a_Rainbow_.28originally_DECLINED.2C_now_ACCEPTED.29|Here]] is the one example of which I'm aware. And concerning AYB: Even though I voted to decline, I have always felt it was ''possible'' that fact was correct, and will not be surprised if we do have to un-decline it (nor will I be surprised if we don't). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Sockpuppetness==<br /> I know sockpuppetry when I see it and I know that kk is a definate sockpuppet person. (I know how ironic) Anyways, I was wondering why it is that when someone creates an account on here, 2-3 others are created. So my question is, that do you beaucrats check every new user if they have another log in name?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 17:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You have already asked me questions like this two or three times on this page, but I'm still not going to give you a straight answer. Nothing against you, but I don't like to post details of something like that. Nevertheless, it's probably not hard to infer certain things by posts I've made elsewhere. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thatkidsysop ==<br /> Do you think you could make [[HRFWiki:User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] a sysop on the Fanstuff Wiki? There's been a concensus for him to be added to the team. (I actually posted this on the official forum's admin thread a little while ago, but it's been hours without a response and there's already a bit of excitement on the wiki.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No wait. Lets make a discussion about this.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> No problem. For some reason that forum wasn't showing as having new messages for me. I know what it's like to be offered a promotion and then have to wait and wait for it to go through (in my case, the whole wiki was locked down for the server move). So I will not tell you to keep your pants on, for real. ;) H*bad, this talk page is not the right venue for a discussion on the promotion. In fact, simply by Joshua's posting here I assume that all the necessary discussion has already taken place. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, sorry. The reason was only because I was just wondering about it. Thats all.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == For you and all the others... ==<br /> <br /> For You, Tom, Thunderbird, Joey, Stu, Bazooka, Rogue Leader, Phlip, Heimstern, Abdi Viklas, Drhaggis, E. L. Cool, Firebird, Qermaq, Coder, Jones, Jay, Kilroy, Lapper, Username, Dorian, Paper, and all the others... <br /> Hey, I just want to thank all of you for what you do for the Wiki. I used your page because you seem to be the only one logged on. [[User:65.6.55.229|65.6.55.229]] 20:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hey, Anonymous, why don't you write a really nice thank-you note and then not attribute it to yourself. (Oh, kids can be so cruel. Just kidding.) Thanks, man! It's nice to be appreciated! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks from me, too! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Why thank you very much, it's always nice to hear that our work is appreciated. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Thanks, man. That really makes a sysop feel good. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Thenk you very much, Mister .229! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Thanks! (And gee; if you know all of us well enough to abbreviate names, you really ought to think about getting one of your own!) &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I'm very flattered. Thank you for your kind words, 65.6.55.229. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Note: DprianGray isn't a sysop. Just a note. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Neither is Qermaq, but there you go. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::::::::::Both DorianGray and Qermaq, if I may speak for the community, are quite respected users. They have the right to be named in that list of thanks. And after all, 65.6.55.229 never once said the word &quot;sysop&quot; in his note. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Okay, it seems I misunderstood. Since almost every user on that list was a sysop, I figured it was thanking the sysops only. &gt;.&gt; &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Magical Sysop Powers? ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that you and the other sysops around here are able to identify a user by their IP number. I have my own little personal wiki, running on the exact same version of MediaWiki as this one, of course without any changes made to this wiki after installation. As far as I can tell, I have no such all knowing, ip reading powers as the sysop of my wiki. Is this something you guys have edited the HRWiki to be able to do or am I completely missing a huge power of being a sysop? &amp;mdash;{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I have already asked. They won't say.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Eh, okay then. Another mystery of the HRWiki goes unsolved. &amp;mdash;{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I think they want to do this to us.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::The bureaucrats at this wiki have installed the position of &quot;developer&quot;. On some wikis it is called checkuser. It allows users to check IP addresses of users in addition to the normal sysop powers. So yes, it's edited in. - {{User:Bub/sig}}<br /> :::::That's not quite right, but it's kind of close, so, yeah, let's go with that. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Paranormal Idol ==<br /> <br /> Could you check the IPs of Paranormal Idol and HomeTron V20 on the fanstuff wiki? I think they might be the same person. - {{User:Bub/sig}}<br /> :Sorry, but a request for that info would have to come from a fanstuff sysop. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Okay, could you please check the IPs of the following Fanstuff users: [[HRFWiki:User:HomeTron V20|HomeTron V20]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol|Paranormal Idol]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol2|Paranormal Idol2]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol3|Paranormal Idol3]] and [[HRFWiki:User:Ytmnd Boy|Ytmnd Boy]]. Here's the reason. &lt;small&gt;(edited version of reasons written by Bub on [[HRFWiki:User talk:Joshua]].)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ::HomeTron V20 was a player on an interactive game which Bub created. HomeTron apparently quit the wiki because his Fake Characters were getting deleted by Joshua (as per a different discussion). A couple of days later, a new user, Paranormal Idol joined the wiki. He then created two new accounts, Paranormal Idol2 and Paranormal Idol3, claiming that he lost the password to his original account. Paranormal Idol3 then joined the same interactive game. After playing it for a while and then dying (in the game), he left the wiki. A few minutes after this, Ytmnd Boy signed up and requested to be in Bub's interactive game using the same character as HomeTron V20. All of these users share the same style of grammar, spelling and the way they transcribe.<br /> ::In my opinion, this seems like valid grounds for an IP check. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Based on the IPs, they are the same user. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::A few minutes ago, I got the new messages flag, and an e-mail saying that my talk page had been created by you. Do you know why this has occurred? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yes. I edited and saved your page without making any changes in order to force the system to send you that message but without creating a new version of your page. I hoped you would then guess that I had replied to you here, which you did, so it worked. :) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Help Another Wiki?==<br /> Greetings from [[Wookieepedia:|Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki]]. :) I'm one of the administrators over there ([[Wookieepedia:User:Jaymach|Jaymach]], if you'd like to check) and I have been told by [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] that you may be able to help us with something we are attempting to implement over there. We're looking into possibly using your &quot;Image Code&quot; verification, but only want to use it for Page Moves rather than every Page Edit. Do you know if this is possible at all and, if it is, is there any chance you could inform us how to do so? Feel free to contact me on [[Wookieepedia:User_talk:Jaymach|my talk page]]. Many thanks. &lt;small&gt;(I'd sign this, but it'd be from my anon IP so there seems little point)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :We are pleased to help you here, Andrew. Tom is sending you more info by email right now. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hello from Nikolce ==<br /> <br /> Hi Its dot com, how have you been these last couple of uummm time?? Anyway how are you doing in school? By the way, are there any user that play warcraft 3 on battle net by any chance? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> : I've been doing well, Nikolce. I hope you're well as well. I don't currently go to school (I graduated from college six years ago). Sorry, but I'm not familiar with the game you mention. Keep on tranglin'. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Finals ==<br /> Do you watch the Dallas Mavericks?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 14:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I checked in on them four or five times yesterday [Game 1 of the NBA Finals, for those reading along] during the game, and I was happy they won. I'll probably see more of the later games in the series. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Also, their next game is Sunday, Sunday, Someday. Ok, bye.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 15:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Interwiki links ==<br /> Hey It's dot com. I need some help with a link, it's [[Meta:Help:User style]]. It works here, but not on the Fanstuff User Preferences. Do you know why this is?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 15:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It should work now. (I updated and synchronized the knowledge base and fanstuff interwiki tables.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Ok, thanks. Now I can continue to make it more updated like.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The latest most recent block ==<br /> Why did you block Strong bad roks!, because it doesn't appear that he did anything wrong.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No, but he was going to. Thanks for your concern. Please look over my talk page here and find every thread with the words &quot;recent block&quot; in the title before posting another thread like this one. Thanks again. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Archives ==<br /> Sorry if my last post was worded rude, mainly because I didn't word it very well. Anyways the reason I bring it up, is because anytime I post something on your talk page it takes forever for it to bring up your talk page.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 20:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It's okay, but you should be aware that people generally already know when their talk page has gotten pretty long. Pestering them about it rarely does more than annoy them. If you look at the top of the page, you'll see that I've already archived once before. Maybe I will again someday. Who knows, maybe even soon. There are a lot of other projects I'm working on, however, that require more of my attention right now (like the long-overdue upgrade). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Master Chief's name ==<br /> <br /> Hey, dot com. How did you know Master Chief's real name was Ryan? That is his real name. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, Brendan, you'd be surprised what information is out there if you know where to dig. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You mean on my talk page's history? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, there's that, but he created &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Log?user=!!!!_Ryan_ON_WHEELS! this account]&lt;/span&gt; as well. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, how'd you know my name? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Like you said. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::But you knew my name before I said On my talk page's history. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::That's true. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Upgrade to 1.6 at the fanstuff wiki ==<br /> Hey, awesome job, you and Tom really work harder than most people notice. The log in page is the best part, though. however, do you think you'll be able to add the poopsmith border again? I'm just wondering if 1.6 can't do that. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I love the RSS upgrade....But one question: Why did you upgrade the HRFWiki before the HRWiki? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 02:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::We try to shake down any problems we're going to encounter there before we apply the upgrade here. Not all fanstuffers are happy with this arrangement, but it's the best we've got, as it allows us to identify problems using a database that already has an enormous amount of content. If it's any consolation to them, we did spend an extensive amout of time testing the new features before we committed them to the live wiki. As for the Poopsmith, I don't know when or whether we'll be seeing him again soon. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Unblock==<br /> Please unblocking 82.42.237.114 on a provisional basis. the vandals<br /> are gone! [[User:Go-glow|Go-glow]] 13:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Forget it. I have records of at least a dozen vandal accounts from that address over the last six months, and the content of the vandalism is worse than most. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hi ==<br /> <br /> I was just lookin around on the wiki this morning and decided that I'd leave a brief hello message for you.&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> Hi, It's Dot Com.&lt;br/&gt;<br /> I haven't really talked with you too much, so I felt like leaving you a message. What's up with you in real life lately? Anything cool happening that you'd like to talk about? Any interesting stories or other stuff? Are there any Wiki projects that need serious cleaning up or any pages that need creating? If so, I'd be glad to help with them. I don't really have too much wiki time any mroe, but I have a chance to be on this morning for a little while. I'd be glad to assist with any ongoing projects that are in need of serious help. If you get a chance, please reply on my talk page.<br /> <br /> {{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 13:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> P.S. Could I add you to my friends list? I'd like to recognize you on my userpage for your remarkable work on this wiki over the time you've been here. Thanks for your time.<br /> <br /> :Well, sure. You can't have too many friends. To answer your other questions: The Rangers are still doing well, and that makes me happy. I can't think of any projects off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's some good ideas over at [[HRWiki:The Stick]]. I also can't think of any pages that need to be created. I wish they would release the next toon so we can make a page for ''it''. (By the way, I replied here instead of your talk page because it's generally better to keep discussion in one place.) Talk atcha later! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Alrighty then. ADD'D!!!!!--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 16:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == MediaWiki pages==<br /> What exactly do MediaWiki pages do? I'm confuzzled...&amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :See [[Meta:Help:MediaWiki namespace]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A troll's IP ==<br /> Hey, Dot com. I found a trolls IP address, and I was wondering what I should do with it.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 15:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I guess you should just hang on to it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, but he is a pain in the neck. I know him. He has trolled on the fanstuff before. And I just want to be done with him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 15:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Deleting user names ==<br /> Hey Dot com. I heard from some very reliable sources that you guys can delete user names.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;Can&quot; is such a big word. Of course I ''can'' delete usernames. I can delete the whole wiki. (Not that I'm going to.) As for whether I ''will'' delete usernames, the answer is no; in general our [[HRWiki:Privacy policy#Removal of user accounts|policy]] is not to do that. Who said otherwise? &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It just seems like its not a very good idea to keep a username on the list, like NSMC, some inappropriate usernames, Willy on wheels, etc. Well maybe not NSMC, for historical reasons. And I never said anyone said otherwise.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, can can also just change there username to something else. I'm not saying that he's going to. He ''might'' but I doubt it. --{{User:the thing/sig}} 14:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes you did. You said, &quot;I heard from some very reliable sources.&quot; &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, well, I was on the mediawiki channel asking questions.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, it is technically possible, and yes, in certain very unusual circumstances it has been done, but no, we don't do it otherwise. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Really? When was it done? Also, I found out mediawiki 1.7 will be coming out in July.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Great. I'd hate for them to actually use a version for a while. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Yeah, they told me that its going to look much better than 1.6.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::In reply to the other question: It was used after NSMC's vandalism was cleaned up. All the individual accounts were deleted and consolidated into [[User:NSMC vandal|one account]]. - {{User:Bub/sig}}<br /> <br /> == El Cid... lcid... Are Cid... rcid... ==<br /> <br /> Hey! [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Cutepetsrus&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=338955 What's] &quot;rcid&quot;? &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It's the &quot;Recent Changes ID&quot;. Each entry in the [[Meta:Recentchanges table|`recentchanges` table]] has a unique ID, which shows up in the URL when you click &quot;diff&quot; from [[Special:Recentchanges]] on an edit that hasn't been patrolled. The &quot;rcid&quot; part tells the system to display the &quot;park as patrolled&quot; link as you view the diff (even if the edit has &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;curid=710&amp;diff=338906&amp;oldid=338904&amp;rcid=287736 already been patrolled]&lt;/span&gt;), and so it's not necessary to be included in a link on a talk page. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rangers ==<br /> Hey just in case you didn't get my memo, I am going to a rangers game on wednesday. I know your most likely going to erase this, but just so you know.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That's cool. I am thinking about going on Tuesday for the Fourth and the fireworks, but I'll have to see. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I would figure thats when its going to be the most crowded.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::And I just got back. They won! Back to back homeruns. It was cool. Hey were you there? Or were you there at the July 4th game?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::No, I didn't get to go to that one. (That's too bad, 'cause I love patriotic-themed fireworks.) Glad your game was good, and hey, they're tied for first right now! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bad wording... ==<br /> Hey Dot com. I was wondering about your accually typing the word (A good way of saying it) whatsit on a page. I know you already know this, but there are little kids on here. Can you reword it, please?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No, I'm not going to reword it. There is a difference between ''using'' a word and referring to a word ''as a word''. Assuming that the user doesn't already know what his name means, then there would be no way to explain to him what the problem is without resorting to pedantic euphemism or a click-through, both of which are unnecessary given that (1) we should be mature enough to calmly discuss any subject, (2) the whole name itself is already as offensive as or more offensive than its components, and (3) the likelihood that a random user will find that page is close to zero. If it makes you feel better, I'll put a language warning there. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sorry, I was just making sure that everything is G or Pg rated here.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Marshie Face ==<br /> [[Image:foodfaces.png|thumb|Both a little creepy]]<br /> Okay, you win. I hadn't compared them side-by-side and was going solely by memory. They DO, after all, have a similar artistic style, even though I can now see that I was wrong in thinking they were the same. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Cool. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Subst signatures ==<br /> <br /> Hi, this is CapitalQ from TMBW.net. We just upgraded to MW 1.6 yesterday (only to see 1.7 stable released today, but that's another story), and after seeing that templates in signatures automatically turn into substrings, ACupOfCoffee pointed us [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.6#Substituted Signatures of Death|here]], where you state &quot;I have created a new variable that allows me to disable this so-called feature, which I now have done.&quot; If you could tell me exactly how you went about doing that, I'd be very greatful. Thanks. :) -[[TMBW:User:CapitalQ|CapitalQ]] 02:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No problem. I have replied on [[TMBW:User talk:CapitalQ#Subst'd sigs|your talk page]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks, all set up! You rock. -[[TMBW:User:CapitalQ|CapitalQ]] 12:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Homsar's Speech ==<br /> <br /> DaAaaAAaaAaahhh! Hi, It's dot cayommm! It's KieferSkuunnk! I just wanted to thank you for the &lt;s&gt;flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital&lt;/s&gt; help on my Homsar's Speech project! We're almost done now, but I still can't feel my leeeggs. Okay, bye-dee-bye! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == /wiki/ redirect ==<br /> <br /> I asked Interruptor Jones about this, and he told me to tell you, so... I think /wiki/ should redirect to /index.php/ because whenever I want to look something up in HRWiki by typing in the URL, I invariably end up typing &quot;/wiki/&quot; and getting the ol' 404. I'd just add &lt;tt&gt;Redirect permanent /wiki/ http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/&lt;/tt&gt; somewhere in the .htaccess file, and it should work automatically. I think it'd be even better to do it the other way around and make &quot;/wiki/&quot; the canonical form and have index.php redirect to that instead, but not having used the MediaWiki software, I don't know the exact configuration options. Oh... and ever thought about moving some of the stuff on this huge talk page to an archive page? ;) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 16:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Isn't typing the URL out a bit cumbersome? Why not create a [http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html smart-keyword] instead?&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's the way I've always done it, and it doesn't feel so cumbersome after having done it a million times with Wikipedia. Other people might not be aware of smart keywords (I wasn't until just now). Besides, what's the harm in setting up a redirect? :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 21:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I'm not inclined to hack the wiki to aid one person's &quot;way of always doing it&quot;. There are easier client-side options for what I percieve to be a client-side issue. Sorry.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::But is it just one person's way of always doing it, or are other people doing it, too? And I still don't see the harm in just adding a line to .htaccess; you wouldn't even have to restart the server or anything. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 03:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::It's not that your request isn't easy to fulfill. I presented you with an alternative that would actually be quicker than if I made the change and you typed the entire URL. I don't see this as a problem with the wiki, I see it as an issue that is unique to a single user's behavior. Though I have to admit, I still might consider changing the &lt;tt&gt;index.php&lt;/tt&gt; in the URL to &lt;tt&gt;wiki&lt;/tt&gt; (making &lt;tt&gt;wiki&lt;/tt&gt; the canonical form), but I'd want to go over the consequences of such a change with others first. (Note that this was [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 2#Mod rewrite to remove index.php from URLs|discussed once before]].)&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm unindenting so this doesn't get too wide... anyway, we still haven't even established that I'm the only one who types /wiki/ -- do you have error log statistics to back it up, maybe? I also think the redirect would be a good idea because it would be more consistent with other wikis (I believe most of the most popular MediaWiki sites use /wiki/); inconsistency is why I make this error in the first place. I could make further arguments, for example, that the URL is part of the user interface of a website, and any user interface should anticipate user error. (It's not uncommon for a text-based program to understand both &quot;exit&quot; and &quot;quit&quot;, for example.) I could make an analogy with &quot;typo redirects&quot; on wikis. I know, it sounds silly to back up such a little thing like this with so much, but it just feels like a redirect is the Right Thing. (I guess becoming a webmaster is having this effect on me.) Well, I don't suppose there's any more I can say on this subject, so do what you're gonna do. :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 20:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PHP upgrade ==<br /> <br /> [[Special:Version]] still says that we're running PHP 4.4.2. Upgrade to PHP 5 unsccessful? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Delayed. Turns out we need to upgrade [[Wikipedia:Red Hat Enterprise Linux|RHEL]] so that we can upgrade [[Wikipedia:Apache HTTP Server|Apache]] so that we can upgrade [[Wikipedia:PHP|PHP]] so that we can upgrade [[MW:|MediaWiki]]. We're going to try again over the weekend. (We ''did'' upgrade from 4.3.x to 4.4.2, for any of you keeping score at home.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Upgrading RHEL and Apache might not be necessary after all. We should have the CAPTCHA problem (which is really a missing libraries problem) fixed with the upgrade as well, which according to my information should be any time now. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Special:Countedits ==<br /> Could you please install the Count Edits extension on the Fanstuff? Many combolations, {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 08:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That function is a server-intensive function (which is why it's restricted to sysops on this wiki). Perhaps you could elaborate on why you need it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Honestly, we don't. I was simply interested (in counting edits). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I see. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am looking for documentation and an implementation of Special:CountEdits. If you can help, please contact me at the e-mail address here: http://en.csharp-online.net/index.php?title=User:WikiSysop.<br /> <br /> Thanks for your help. --- Editor C# Online.NET<br /> <br /> == Ni hao! ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Dot com, just wanted to say hello from China! Hope all's going well for you. Things have been crazy in China (in an awesome way), but I can't imagine I'll get much time to tell all you guys until I return to the USA... anyway, just wanted to give you a long-distance greeting. Zaijian! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :China man that's gotta be fun! Some day I hope to visit China. Just won't be any time soon. I do plan to go to Kansas City Missouri for a few days this summer! Hi Dot com! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Hey juys! Looking forward to your return! (Although, Heimstern, it's kinda like you never left. What an increasingly small world we live in.) &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I think I'm in a bit of an abnormal situation here, to be honest. I'm in about the nicest hotel in Shuangliu county and stuff like that. So in some ways, I have a lot of the conveniences of home. A lot of places in China aren't like that, or so I hear. But then again, China is growing like crazy in terms of technology and modernization. It seems like ''everyone'' here has a cell phone. Like, ''more'' oft than in the USA. I don't have time to say much more now, though. We'll talk more when I return. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Olsen Twin'd!! ==<br /> <br /> How did you know that the pictures in Teen Girl Squad 11 came from that M magazine? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I have to admit that I'm a big Mary-Kate and Ashley fan (Ash is my fave), and I've had a subscription to ''M'' since I was a twelve-years-old boy. &lt;!--or, I decompiled the Flash file and found the full image there; take your pick as to which is more likely ;) --&gt; &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Nice. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Old main page style ==<br /> <br /> Don't get me wrong, I love the new style, but there are still people complaining (well, on the forum). Is there a way to put that old style as one of the skins in the preferences? If it's too much work, it's fine with me, I like this style better, but some people don't. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}<br /> :We're not going to create and maintain another skin just for that old style. There are instructions out there somewhere on customizing one's personal CSS to make the main page like the old style. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That works. I'll just tell people that. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}<br /> <br /> == Quick reference guide ==<br /> Ok, this has been bothering me for a while, why on the [[Template:stuffinstructions|STUFF instructions]] page is the words quick reference guide, in red?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It's not red; it's kind of a goldish color. It's a different color so that it will stand out. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Really? It really looks bold red. Not even close to a goldish &lt;s&gt;colour&lt;/s&gt;color. Weird.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, it is a '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C60;&quot;&gt;reddish-gold color,&lt;/span&gt;''' but not '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#c00&quot;&gt;as red as a broken link.&lt;/span&gt;''' &amp;mdash; '''&lt;span class=&quot;hovul&quot;&gt;[[User:It's dot com|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#396&quot;&gt;It's dot com&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 03:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Guitar riff from &quot;Personal favorites&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that the QotW page lacks the sound file for the &quot;Wicked Guitar Solo&quot;. I have a copy of that file lurking here, though the file upload page seems to want images, so I figured I'd better not chance it. Any suggestions?<br /> <br /> Thanks!<br /> <br /> --Ian.<br /> <br /> :Hi there Ian. Please email the file to [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org]. Thanks.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == No fan of zeugma? ==<br /> <br /> Aw, I loved [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Pi&amp;curid=26404&amp;diff=353018&amp;oldid=353017&amp;rcid=302440 that line]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I am a fan of zeugma, but not when it seems unintentional. My personal fave: &quot;Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana&quot; (Groucho Marx). Close runner-up: &quot;You held your breath and the door for me&quot; (Alanis Morissette). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Or the classic &quot;If we do not hang together, we shall certainly hang separately.&quot; {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 1 Username ==<br /> Ok, I was looking through the system messages when one of them caught my eye, it said: &quot;Sorry, you have already created $1 accounts. You can't make any more.&quot; is it possible to make the number a 1. So that there can't be anymore sockpuppets or something like that.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 05:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Ok, I know that there is an option that will let you set the amount of accounts in one day, so why not have you and/or Tom turn on the option everyday?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Because this isn't that important to me personally. If you think this is something the entire wiki should consider, then you should bring it up in Da Basement. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you from Super Martyo Brother ==<br /> <br /> I'd like to thank you for:&lt;br&gt;<br /> *Changing my username<br /> *Putting up with my noobish comments on talk pages<br /> *and for just being so awesome!<br /> You really do deserve a pizza trophy! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're welcome, SMB! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Help, please?==<br /> <br /> Sorry if I'm bothering you, but I'd like to patrol recent changes, and there's no one else to really ask. What do the red &quot;!&quot;s and &quot;N&quot;s mean? Sorry if I'm bothering you. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 20:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : &quot;!&quot; means the page has not yet been marked as patrolled. &quot;N&quot; means that the page was created with the edit in question (and, thus, there will be no &quot;diff&quot; available for that edit.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh! Now I understand. Thanks. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thank you! ==<br /> I wouldn't have lasted a week. Even though yes I am not on as much anymore because of band and whatnot, but still.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No problem, just see that it doesn't happen again. If it does, I won't be able (which is to say, willing) to unblock the IP so quickly. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah I was about to say, &quot;wait your an admin!&quot;. I get it, don't worry he won't be getting on the wiki anymore. I locked the internet with a very special password, that even with your &quot;great&quot; detective like skills couldn't get. Unless of coarse you have 20 life times tucked away with you..... anyways, thanks again. And I do mean again. --{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I guess he won't be a problem for you guys anymore.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 21:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == long time no see ==<br /> <br /> Hey there It's dot com, how have you been, havn't spoken in a long time, but now i can bacause its the school holidays for me. What's been happening with you?<br /> <br /> Guess what: i recently had a maths and science test, and i got GOOD scores. 100% for science, and 107% for maths.<br /> <br /> ps: i need to ask you something, you remember the time i asked you why you don't like the later seasons of simpsons, well on your userpage, it also says you don't like the later seasons of family guy either, whats the reason? Can i say , to me sometimes the ''recent'' episodes aren't the same as before. some of them use the same joke as before eg: marge and homer repeatetl arguing. Marge has changed alot, before she was a likeable character, now she seems.... different, do you get me?<br /> <br /> Final note: What would be your favourite quotes of the simpsons, from the top of my head it's:<br /> <br /> &quot;And i say, a monkey ''can'' mown our lawn&quot;. Homer of the distance.<br /> &quot;I fell 8000 feet onto a pile of jagged rocks&quot;. Abe Simpson.<br /> &quot;(Austrian accent)Good-moring and welcome to advanced physics,1-0-1, i see alot of new faces, but as the old saying goes: &quot;Out with the old, in with the Nuclues&quot;.(everyone laughs except homer). &quot;Now let me just- whoops(drops notes). Homer stars laughing hard:&quot;aha aha hah haha, a did you see that jerk, ah ah ah ha hah , AAAAAA he DROPED HE'S NOTES, AAAAAAA HAH HA H AH H aAAAAAAAAAA HA HA H A. <br /> <br /> To me, this is one of my favourite episodes, mostly becasue i can make jokes to my brother about him being in University himself: &quot;Have you spoken with your Austrian professor yet&quot;, and &quot;Have you found your secret &quot;Dungeons and Dragons lairr, thats has Nerds secretly studing and playing with characters at level 40&quot; etc.<br /> <br /> talk atch you later (sp)<br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> i forget to ask you so so, something serious: How do you make those things on wiki that link to other websiter, like insted of having this website in full writing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nf1VMk0o4Iw, you shorten it into a small thing, how's it done? <br /> <br /> ps: at this video on youtube, go to the time 09:26, this is where the joke is where homer is laughing.<br /> <br /> ==Text could not be found==<br /> <br /> On the [[Strong Badman]] page I got an error that says that the text could not be found, and I should report it to an administrator. Do you think it has anything to do with the recent maintnance? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That page seems to be working fine to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::If that happens again, you can fix it by purging the page. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == MediaWiki Question ==<br /> Hey, IDC. I was wondering if you could let me know how you &quot;hard-coded&quot; the header for [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] to appear from [[MediaWiki:Sandbox]] all invisible-like. I just noticed it and I thought it was pretty nifty. --&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant: small-caps;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'')&lt;/span&gt; 02:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I inserted some hooks into Article.php and wrote a hook function that draws on these [[Mediawiki:Sandbox|two]] [[Mediawiki:Introduction|pages]]. The procedure might change when we upgrade to 1.8. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Could you show me the code you used? --&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant: small-caps;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]'')&lt;/span&gt; 05:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Permanent Edit Removal ==<br /> I remember how the last time the Fanstuff got attacked by a troll who placed highly unappropriate images on pages, you permanently deleted those versions of the pages from the database. You may want to do that again with edits by the troll [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/NKSCF|NKSCF]]. Most of the pages he put images on were deleted (not sure if you still want to delete them from the database), but there's one on Y2K's [[HRFWiki:User:Y2K|userpage]] that still remains. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 08:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You could just delete the page, and then restore all the edits except that one... it would still be in [[Special:Undelete]], but you don't need admin powers to do it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update Icons ==<br /> <br /> It's dot com, I noticed a bit of some messy whitespace on the edges of two of the Main Page update icons ([[Image:update-cs.png]] and [[Image:update-ps.png]]). They look fine when they're situated at the top of the Main Page, where the gradient is lighter, but as you add more saturation to the background, the white edges really start to come through. Take a look toward the bottom of the [[Main Page]] to see what I mean. Anyways, I went ahead and tried to clean them up for you a bit, but unfortunately I was unable to upload new versions, since they're both set as protected pages. (As an aside: why are they set as protected pages in the first place?) The versions I made might look rougher on a purely white backdrop, but I think they blend pretty nicely on the gradient background on the main page, comparatively speaking. So here they are, use them if you like:<br /> * http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8674/updatepsqm5.png<br /> * http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7750/updatecsej0.png<br /> --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 00:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)</div> Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:12:30 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:It%27s_dot_com http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3717/1upvw1.gif Videogames ==<br /> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4650/mmxdl1.gif<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:07:53 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6457/bulletts8.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:00:01 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - 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I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. 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Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> :http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9806/bulletuf6.gif [http://www.sheboyganbazaar.com/ Sheboygan Bazaar]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:57:42 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Strongest_Man_in_the_World <p>Soapergem:&#32;link</p> <hr /> <div>{{toonnav|Big Toon|10years|Weclome Back|The King of Town DVD}}<br /> <br /> [[Image:Strongest Man Contest Judges.png|thumb|&quot;Really quite an impressive bowl!&quot;]]<br /> [[The Brothers Chaps]] celebrate [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]]'s 10th anniversary by retelling the [[Original Book|original story]].<br /> <br /> '''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|Mr. Bland}}, {{Film|The Robot (storybook)}}, {{Film|Señor}}, {{Film|The Grape Fairie}}, [[The Fat Bee]]<br /> <br /> '''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Gymnasium]]<br /> <br /> '''Date:''' August 21, 2006<br /> <br /> '''Running Time:''' 4:25<br /> <br /> '''Page Title:''' The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> ''{The cover page of the Original Book appears. The book opens and the first page of appears.}''<br /> <br /> ''{Homestar Runner changes into his modern form. The book pans away to The Field.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody loves the me! I'm a terrific athlete!<br /> <br /> ''{Pom Pom enters and pulls out a flier}''<br /> <br /> '''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A strongest man in the world contest? ''{pan to a closeup of Homestar Runner}'' Sweet dog, you know I'm all over it.<br /> <br /> ''{Pan to the gymnasium, where Homestar Runner and Pom Pom are wearing aerobic gear and lifting weights. The training music from [[montage]] is playing in the background.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Extra-size, Pom Pom! Lemme see ya pour on that exercise! That strangest man in the world contest ain't gonna win itself!<br /> <br /> ''{Pan to a scene of the setting sun. Silhouettes of Homestar Runner and Pom Pom jump up and high five each other.}''<br /> <br /> '''SINGER:''' Showdown!<br /> <br /> ''{Fade out. Cut back to the Field, where Homestar Runner and Pom Pom are walking to the right.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Man, Pom Pom, I feel great! I feel fresh as a bagel! I bet I could lift fifty stringiest man in the world contests!<br /> <br /> ''{They approach a sign pointing the way to the contest, where Strong Bad and The Cheat are waiting.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, look, The Cheat! If it isn't the big, fat, yellow blob and Pom Pom!<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looks annoyed}'' Hey! ''{looks behind himself}'' W&amp;mdash; wait. ''{looks annoyed again}'' Hey! ''{looks behind himself}'' W&amp;mdash; wait. ''{looks annoyed again}'' Hey! ''{not annoyed}'' Wait&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Lemme break it down for you like this: I am the very strongest. While on the other hand, inversely, you guys are not very strong!<br /> <br /> '''POM POM:''' ''{looks angry, loud bubble noises}''<br /> <br /> ''{Strong Bad reacts in surprise.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, Pom Pom! Let's tone down the language before the contest, huh?<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, The Cheat. We'd better go start signing autographs. There's a pretty big line building up over there. ''{exits with The Cheat}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looks annoyed}'' Come on, Pom Pom! Let's go get Strong Bad's autograph! I hear there's a pretty big line building up.<br /> <br /> ''{Cheering voices over momentarily before cutting to a banner reading &quot;Strongest Man In The World Contest&quot;.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover over microphone}'' Ladies and gentlemen, you cannot be ready for the ''{pan down to show The Announcer}'' Strongest Man In The World Contest!<br /> <br /> ''{He flips the microphone from one hand to the other.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Let's meet our smokin' hot contestants!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to a silhouette of Mr. Bland with disco lights in the background.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Hailing from the middle of the road, the prince of plain, the master of mundane, it's ''{spotlight turns on}'' Mr. Bland!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to a beige background of panning cubes and &quot;mr. bland&quot; scrolls to the right. Mr. Bland strikes an action pose. Cut back to The Announcer.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And next, our returning champion, the walking&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to a smiliar disco lights scene with The Robot in silhouette.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' &amp;mdash;metal robot... The Robot!<br /> <br /> ''{A spotlight shines on The Robot and he waves. A blue background of screws and hex nuts pans in, and &quot;The Robot&quot; appears while The Robot holds a waving pose. Cut back to The Announcer.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And from foreign lands, a foreign man,&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> ''{Cut back to the disco scene, now with Señor in silhouette.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' &amp;mdash;Señor Ha-Ha-Ha-Havin' A Little Trouble!<br /> <br /> ''{A brown background of beans pans in, and &quot;Señor&quot; appears while Señor strikes an action pose.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And...<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to silhouettes of Pom Pom, Strong Bad, and Homestar Runner, who's respective spotlights turn on as their names are mentioned.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{quickly}'' Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar.<br /> <br /> ''{Homestar looks surprised. Cut back to The Announcer.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Grape Fairie! Hit me with da rules!<br /> <br /> ''{Pan up to The Grape Fairie riding his bee. He makes a scroll appear that reads &quot;Rules&quot;.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' ''{in a Bronx accent}'' All right, you slow brains, listen up smart. I start yas each off with like twenty grapes.<br /> <br /> ''{A pile of grapes takes the place of the floating scroll.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Then I adds one at a time.<br /> <br /> ''{A grape appears above the pile.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' The bum what holds the most grapes&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> ''{A golden bowl-shaped trophy appears in place of the grapes.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' &amp;mdash;wins this golbol.<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen; sounds impressed}'' Dang, Pom Pom, you see that golbol? ''{zooms in on &quot;golbol&quot;}'' That's a nice golbol.<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Let's get this over with!<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Ollzy oop. ''{zaps a pile of grapes on top of the contestants}''<br /> <br /> '''MR. BLAND:''' ''{monotonously}'' Okay.... This is going really well.<br /> <br /> ''{The pile of grapes crushes Mr. Bland.}''<br /> <br /> '''MR. BLAND:''' Oh.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to silhoettes of everyone on a yellow background.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Down goes Bland!<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Ka-bu op! ''{pings a single grape over each contestant}''<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Señor, impossibly balancing the entire pile on one hand.}''<br /> <br /> '''SEÑOR:''' Oh, no, boy. I havin' a little trouble!<br /> <br /> ''{The pile falls on Señor with a &quot;Sblounskched!&quot; He sticks his arm out of the grapes}''<br /> <br /> '''SEÑOR:''' I still alive!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat, with Pom Pom in the background.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat&amp;mdash;<br /> <br /> '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' &amp;mdash;I hear our friend The Robot is about to do a set of his acoustic numbers. Or should I say, unplugged?<br /> <br /> '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises, salutes}''<br /> <br /> ''{The Cheat slides to the feet of The Robot, who is apparently plugged into an outlet on a very small section of wall out of nowhere.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}'' ''{looks around, unplugs The Robot's cord, and slides away}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to The Robot, who shuts down and drops the pile of grapes. General sad &quot;Aw&quot;s among the crowd are heard.}''<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Homestar, whose grapes appear to be floating in mid-air, due to his [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible arms]].}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looks around}'' Did nobody just see that?! Judge? Fairie? Giant bee?<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to The Grape Fairie and The Announcer, who are admiring the bowl and not paying attention to the contest.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Honest to God, Mookie Wilson gave me the golbol in my hands in 1974.<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Really quite an impressive bowl.<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off screen}'' Hellooo?<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Oh. Right.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Pom Pom, Strong Bad, and Homestar.}''<br /> <br /> '''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' ''{poofs another grape on top of everyone}'' Crazy eights!<br /> <br /> ''{Strong Bad begins to lose his grip on the grapes.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat? Big help here! Big help!<br /> <br /> '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{rushes over}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Okay.... Even it out there on the south side.<br /> <br /> '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Jump her up.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Homestar.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, seriously. At first it was cute, but this is just borderline unsportsmanlike! Let me outline my master plan. I will (a) drop my grapes, and (b) uncover that cheat! ''{drops his grapes; walks over to Strong Bad and The Cheat}'' Could I just borrow this a second? ''{grabs The Cheat}''<br /> <br /> '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{surprised The Cheat noises}''<br /> <br /> ''{Homestar kicks The Cheat about his feet like a hackey-sack, then does a slow-motion flip and bicycle kicks The Cheat off screen.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' ''{melodramatically}'' Oh-nooo! ''{gets squished by his pile of grapes}''<br /> <br /> ''{The action-pose scene appears, this time with a green grapes background, &quot;squished bad&quot;, and Strong Bad under his pile of grapes.}''<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Pom Pom}''<br /> <br /> '''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Pom Pom wins!<br /> <br /> ''{Pom Pom winks; a record scratch sounds, cut to Homestar}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wait, what?<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh.... These grapes are succulently crushing my windpipe.... Ooh, but they're seedless! ''{The pile of grapes begins to collapse as Strong Bad eats it}''<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to Homestar and Pom Pom holding the trophy.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, seriously, Pom Pom. Gimme the golbol!<br /> <br /> '''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises, pulls the trophy back a bit}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, that's great. But I still won. I sportsmanliked everbody! Now gimme the golbol!<br /> <br /> '''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, fine. You can give it to me for my birthday. Now check out my victory dance! Huhyayayayaaa!<br /> <br /> ''{Homestar crosses his left leg over his right and jumps into the air. The Grape Fairie and the Fat Bee enter from the upper right, the announcer from the lower left. Pom Pom jumps in the air holding the trophy. The scene fades into the last page of the Original Book with &quot;1996-2006&quot; written across the upper left.}''<br /> <br /> == Easter Eggs==<br /> *Clicking on the [[Contests|Contest]] sign when Homestar mentions getting Strong Bad's autograph will show a picture of said autograph, on which is written:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;homestar,&lt;br /&gt;<br /> dare to dream! believe in yourself&lt;br /&gt;<br /> and you can achieve anything!!&lt;br /&gt;<br /> your pal&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Strond Ba...&lt;br /&gt;<br /> wait a sec,&lt;br /&gt;<br /> 2nd try:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> homestar,&lt;br /&gt;<br /> you're&lt;br /&gt;<br /> a butt.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Strong&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Bad''&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> *Clicking the [[Trophies|trophy]] at the end shows a shot of it (captioned &quot;GOLBOL&quot;) in the same style as the ones shown when Mr. Bland, The Robot, and Señor are introduced. The [[Wikipedia:New York Mets|New York Mets]] logo is shown in the background.<br /> <br /> ==Fun Facts==<br /> ===Trivia===<br /> *The [[Main Page Messages|main page message]] for this toon read &quot;10 years!&quot;.<br /> *This toon is the first time The Grape Fairie, Mr. Bland, and Señor are given a voice.<br /> *Despite its attempt, this toon's page title is not the longest one of the website. [[Shopping for Danger]]'s page title &quot;Blue Las-alert, Kids! Cheat Commandos will be right back after these messages!&quot; surpasses it by five characters. They are, however, both 19 syllables long.<br /> <br /> ===Remarks===<br /> *When The Grape Fairie's mouth disappears when he isn't talking, his [[Wikipedia:Five o'clock shadow|five o'clock shadow]] disappears with it.<br /> *When Homestar holds up the grapes, they float as if he's controlling them with his mind rather than with [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible arms]].<br /> **Homestar's invisible arms are also emphasized in the high-five scene.<br /> *Señor may also defy physics. He holds the pile on one side with the other half of the pile mysteriously floating in mid-air. This was also true in the original book.<br /> *The Grape Fairy said that Mookie Wilson gave him the trophy in 1974, but Wilson would have been 18 at the time. He was not drafted by the Mets until 1977.<br /> *Señor's introduction background of beans may be a nod to the stereotype that Hispanics eat a lot of beans.<br /> <br /> ===Goofs===<br /> *When Mr. Bland, The Robot and Señor are introduced, the smaller spotlights cross over their feet, yet none of the characters' feet light up.<br /> <br /> ===Inside References===<br /> *When Señor gets squished, the [[Wikipedia:onomatopoeia|onomatopoeia]] used is &quot;[[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar|Sblounskched!]]&quot;.<br /> *The song during the training scene is &quot;Showdown&quot; from [[montage]], except with vocals by someone who sounds like [[Larry Palaroncini]].<br /> *The outfit Homestar wears during the training scene originally appeared in [[lady fan]].<br /> *The autographed picture of Strong Bad in the Easter egg is the same as the one that Strong Bad gives to his &quot;main man&quot; Van Mundegaarde in [[2 years]].<br /> *Homestar is shown [[Kicking The Cheat]], albeit in a more elaborate fashion than in the original book.<br /> *Señor's line &quot;I still alive!&quot; may be a reference to [[Strumstar Hammer]], in which this scene is captioned with the line &quot;this blue guy died.&quot;<br /> *Homestar's first speaking line is an example of an [[Integral Article|Integral Article]]<br /> <br /> ===Real-World References===<br /> *The logo in the background of the Easter egg is that of the [[Wikipedia:New York Mets|New York Mets]], the team of which [[Wikipedia:Mookie Wilson|Mookie Wilson]] is best known as a member.<br /> *The statement in Strong Bad's autograph &quot;believe in yourself and you can achieve anything&quot; is from [[Wikipedia:Rocky|Rocky]].<br /> *&quot;Unplugged&quot; refers to playing music intended for electric instruments on their acoustic equivalents, and was popularised by the [[Wikipedia: MTV Unplugged|MTV Unplugged]] series.<br /> *Mr. Bland's introduction as the &quot;prince of plain&quot; could be a reference to princess Julia of the game [[Wikipedia:Tribes_Vengeance|Tribes Vengeance]], who was commonly referred to as the &quot;princess of pain&quot; in the coliseum.<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> *[[HR:10years.html|watch &quot;Strongest Man in the World&quot;]]<br /> *[[HR:strongestmanredux.swf|view the Flash file for &quot;Strongest Man in the World&quot;]]<br /> *[[Forum:9577|forum thread re: &quot;Strongest Man in the World&quot;]]</div> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:56:38 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Strongest_Man_in_the_World http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Original_Book <p>Soapergem:&#32;NPOV</p> <hr /> <div>Any ideas on how to categorize this page? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:44, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)<br /> <br /> [[:Category: Early Work]] it is - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 00:42, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)<br /> <br /> == Copyright violation ==<br /> Other than the introduction and background, I don't think there's anything on this page that one couldn't get simply from watching the toon. Additionally, I think that reproducing the &quot;book&quot; in its entirity (complete with images) is even more of a copyright violation than we normally do (that is to say, if anything crosses the line, this does for sure). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hey, you wrote the same exact word-for-word thing on the Where My Hat Is At? discussion! Cool. --[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] 04:55, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yep. It's the same issue in both instances. Copy and paste makes everything easier. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:49, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I added a secret STRONG BAD VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strongbad handles this book the same way he does with [[kids' book]] and that decemberween version thingy. --[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 00:03, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I just found out that the peeps at [adult swim] this week in their pre 12:30 AM bump Monday through Wednesday used the Strong Bad quote &quot;I am the very strongest. You guys are not that strong.&quot; from the book. It was used with what looked like a crudly drawn characture of a tough guy P\/\//\/I/\/G a fallen victim with his head ripped off from his neck. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] July 14th, 2005 9:28 AM US EDT.<br /> <br /> == purchase? ==<br /> <br /> is there anywhere I can purchase or check out this book?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 19:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> :To quote Mike, &quot;Just a story we made one afternoon, went to Kinko's, made about ten or fifteen copies of it, and kind of gave it to our friends, and that was it, really, for several years. We just did that in the summer. We were in college, and did it in a bored afternoon.&quot; So there's only a few copies in the world, belonging to the Brothers Chaps' friends. It's unlikely that you'll find one. Although... It would be an awesome edition to the [[Store]], I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::That would be awesome. TBC, if you're reading this... you shoud totally do that. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alternate text ==<br /> <br /> The alt. text for the book isn't &quot;Pom Pom's Beady Eyes&quot; for every page after page one. It changes to &quot;havin' a little trouble&quot; when Senor is crushed, then to &quot;Where's the plug?&quot; on the next page. It stays that way until Strong Bad is squished, when it becomes &quot;squisha squisha squisha&quot;, then finally on the last page it's &quot;WORLD BEST&quot;. I'd change it myself, but I'm not sure how best to format it<br /> <br /> == NPOV ==<br /> <br /> Is it just me, or does the following sentence sound completely opinionated?<br /> :&quot;The story is bizarre, but shows signs of the greatness to come.&quot;</div> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:53:40 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Original_Book http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Weclome_Back <p>Soapergem:&#32;No it's not. (See discussion point #19)</p> <hr /> <div>{{toonnav|Big Toon|weclomeback|A Folky Tale|The King of Town DVD}}<br /> [[Image:Weclome Back.PNG|thumb|&quot;What is it, like, mid-May or something?&quot;]]<br /> Homestar and the gang all reflect on their summer vacation.<br /> <br /> '''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, [[Eh! Steve]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}} <br /> <br /> '''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Topiary Garden]], [[The Island]], [[Obstacle Course]], [[Airplane]]<br /> <br /> '''Date:''' July 3, 2006<br /> <br /> '''Running Time:''' 4:37<br /> <br /> '''Page Title:''' Your dreams were your ticket out...<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> ''{A closeup of a time clock attached to a telephone pole. A time card is punched in. The words &quot;Weclome Back&quot; are shown, and flash various colors. Pull out to see Bubs holding a cup of coffee, in front of a table with styrofoam cups and an urn, in the Field. Marzipan enters and also punches in.}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' Well, hello, Marzi-person! Welcome back.<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' Well, howdy, stranger!<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' Stranger? I'm Bubs, remember?<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' ''{unimpressed}'' Uh, I know. It's a joke.<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' That's hilarious! How was your vacation?<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' It was tout de suite! I took the Cool Tapes on a midwestern tour ''{the tour map pops up}'' of bead shops and topiary gardens.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to a topiary garden; Marzipan, Strong Mad and The Cheat are playing in the band}''<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}''<br /> :Cool tapes are cool, and we're better than ever,<br /> :Cool tapes are cool, 'cause we're light as a feather.<br /> :Keep it down with that real cool flavor,<br /> :Me and The Cheat and our bass player.<br /> :Rockin' the spot.<br /> :Yeah, we're rockin' the spot.<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' Grapes, y'all! And don't forget we've got cool 7-inches for sale over at our merch table.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to the merchandise table. Homsar is standing on it, it has a sign reading &quot;Merch Masala&quot; and another reading &quot;Steven Inches $&lt;span style=&quot;font: italic 120% serif&quot;&gt;&amp;pi;&lt;/span&gt;&quot;}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMSAR:''' I'm a little light in the leftovers!<br /> <br /> ''{Homsar's hat flies off the left of the screen, and comes back on from the right and settles on his head. Cut back to Bubs and Marzipan at the coffee table.}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' I bet you drove the shape-ed plants wild.<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, they were way into it. So what did you do?<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to the tropical island. Bubs's &quot;Baloney Sammich Truck&quot;, which resembles an ice-cream truck, doesn't quite fit, and the rear wheels are in the water.}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' BAH-loh-NEH!!! Come on, people! Come on, palm tree! I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!<br /> <br /> ''{An Atari seagull squawks and flies past.}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' You shut your face!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut back to the coffee table.}''<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' I sold exactly zero baloney sandwiches!<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' Well, that's great!<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' Yeah, it was pretty much my best summer ever.<br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walks in}'' Same here. I spent two glorious weeks at Gluten Camp. I learned more about this oft-misunderstood plant protein than I ever thought possible.<br /> <br /> '''THE KING OF TOWN:''' What''eva!'' ''{puts a time card in the time clock}'' I was across the lake at Glutton Camp. And we challenged those pansies to an obstacle course!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to the obstacle course, pan across to see Strong Sad and the King of Town stuck in two tire swings.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' Well, should we call it a draw?<br /> <br /> '''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Hecks, no! I got stuck in here 10 minutes before you!<br /> <br /> ''{Pan across to Coach Z.}''<br /> <br /> '''COACH Z:''' Let's go, Glorten Camp! Glorten Camp is pain and scranin' on yous!<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah? Well while you slo-mos were slounching around on your haunchy laurels, I was checking the most amazing email of my career!<br /> <br /> ''{Cut through static to Strong Bad, holding the Lappy, on a plane. Screen markers and a recording light are visible, as though viewed through a camcorder. Strong Bad leans in and adjusts the focus.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Lappy, when I mash record on that camera, we're gonna perform the world's first death-defying midair SBEmail check! We'll make the cover of all the latest blogs! Now, are you psyched?! I'm psyched, are you psyched?!? OK, 3! 2! 1!<br /> <br /> ''{Strong Bad leans in and presses a button on the camera. Cut through static to Strong Bad standing on the ground. The camera drops to the ground and slowly falls over.}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, the believing is hard to be doing, because that was so incredible! We met so many celebrities in midair! And the part with the ''Narwhal'' ''{said &quot;Nar-wayel&quot;}'' was ''so'' illegal.<br /> <br /> ''{Cut through static to Strong Bad, back at the coffee table}''<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, cuh-rap! What am I, your dad? I can't believe I pulled the old &quot;mash Stop when you think you're mashing Record and mash Record when you think you're mashing Stop&quot; routine on myself.<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' But if we've all been on vacation, who's been taking care of the website?<br /> <br /> ''{Homestar Runner walks in, tired, wearing a dressing gown, a nightcap and [[Nebulon]] slippers, with a cinnamon 5 o'clock shadow.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yawns}'' What's up, my brothers? Let no one say the Homestar Runner don't know how to nap. What is it, like mid-May or something?<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, try &quot;early July.&quot;<br /> <br /> ''{Zoom in.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aah! I slept through June!<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Yup.<br /> <br /> ''{Zoom in even tighter.}''<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aah-! -gatha Christie would never sleep through June... neither would Angela Lansbury.<br /> <br /> '''STRONG BAD:''' Aren't they the same person?<br /> <br /> '''BUBS:''' Yeah.<br /> <br /> '''KING OF TOWN:''' Yep.<br /> <br /> '''MARZIPAN:''' I think they are.<br /> <br /> '''STRONG SAD:''' Yes, they definitely are.<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, it's settled then. Now, what's this I hear about some of you guys sleeping through June? I'll let it slide this time, but June-sleepers will not be tolerated from this day henceforth. Now, whose turn was it to bring the doughnuts?<br /> <br /> '''EVERYONE (BUT HOMESTAR RUNNER):''' Yours.<br /> <br /> '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I'll let it slide this time, but doughnut-rememberers will dough-not be tolerated from now on. All right, everybody, everybody. It's time to get this www-dot-show back on the road-dot-com. Now, places! And...<br /> <br /> ''{Cut to everyone standing in regular clothes in front of a plain blue background. The words &quot;everybody, everybody&quot; appear in front of them. The music from the Intro page plays.}''<br /> <br /> '''SINGERS:''' Everybody, everybody! Everybody, everybody! Everybody, everybody! Everybody, everybody!<br /> <br /> ==Easter Eggs==<br /> * In Homsar's scene, click on the &quot;Steven Inches&quot; sign to see a &quot;The Freewheelin' Eh, Steve&quot; album cover. On the bottom it lists the songs ''Sweet Cups and Cakes'' by Wheelchair Man, ''Eh, Steve's Dream'' by Eh, Steve!, and ''Talkin' Trying to Catch a Worm Blues'' by Fresh Juice.<br /> * When the King of Town first appears, click on his crown to see his &quot;I'm with Glutton Camp&quot; T-shirt.<br /> * Click on the left &quot;everybody&quot; at the end of the toon to see what Pom Pom and The Poopsmith presumably did during their summer vacation.<br /> :''{Pom Pom and the Poopsmith are both leaning on the palm tree on the deserted island. The Poopsmith is wearing Strong Bad's Dangeresque sunglasses, and Pom Pom is wearing Homestar's. After a few moments, a thought cloud appears and reveals that Pom Pom is thinking of a baloney sandwich. Another one appears shortly afterwards and shows that the Poopsmith is too.}''<br /> <br /> ==Fun Facts==<br /> {{checkstuffpage}}<br /> <br /> ===Explanations===<br /> *This toon refers to the real-life vacation that [[The Brothers Chaps]] took in the late spring/early summer of 2006, during which time the site went nearly seven weeks (48 days) without a major update, the longest hiatus on record. There were various minor updates during this period, but no toons.<br /> *The Baloney Truck is a spoof on the [[wikipedia:Ice_cream_truck|Ice Cream Truck/Van]], which is popular in some parts of the world.<br /> <br /> ===Trivia===<br /> [[Image:Cool tapes tour.png|thumb|300px|Cool Tapes' June 2006 tour]]<br /> *The time card reads:<br /> {| style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; text-align: center; font-face: monospace&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C; font: bold 100% sans-serif&quot;<br /> ! style=&quot;width: 5em&quot; | IN: !! style=&quot;width: 5em&quot; | OUT:<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | &amp;nbsp; || &amp;nbsp;<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | &amp;nbsp; || &amp;nbsp;<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | &amp;nbsp; || &amp;nbsp;<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 8:03 || 5:54<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 7:45 || 6:21<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 9:21 || 6:03<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 12:02 || 5:58<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 7:56 || 6:23<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 8:03 || 5:54<br /> |- style=&quot;border: 3px solid #F9C&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;border-right: 10px double #F9C &quot; | 7:45 || 6:21<br /> |}<br /> *The Cool Tapes tour goes through East Westerburg, Beadsburg, Bead Store City, Sculpted Busheston, New Beadshop, Topiarianapolis, Beeeeeds, and Tope Gardens. Other towns on the map are Northtime, Pantsburg, Shoigut, Thuxtable, and The Slickster.<br /> *There are trees in the topiary garden shaped as an ice-cream cone, [[Trogdor]], a tree stump, and [[Wikipedia:William Shakespeare|William Shakespeare]].<br /> *According to the sign on the side of Bubs's truck, he's selling:<br /> **&quot;Gumball Surprise&quot;&amp;mdash;A baloney sandwich with a purple gumball on top.<br /> **&quot;Open Smiley Face&quot;&amp;mdash;An open baloney sandwich with a smiley face drawn on it in mustard.<br /> **&quot;I Heart Baloney&quot;&amp;mdash;A baloney sandwich with heart-shaped bread.<br /> **&quot;Dog Food&quot;&amp;mdash;A baloney sandwich with bone-shaped bread.<br /> **&quot;It's Not a Real Popsicle&quot;&amp;mdash;A baloney sandwich with popsicle-shaped bread.<br /> **&quot;Inside Out&quot;&amp;mdash;A piece of bread between two slices of baloney.<br /> *The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email [[island]], Matt said they should use the island again (even though they already reused it in [[disconnected]]).<br /> <br /> ===Remarks===<br /> *[[Wikipedia:Agatha Christie|Agatha Christie]] and [[Wikipedia:Angela Lansbury|Angela Lansbury]] are not, in fact, the same person. Christie was a crime fiction author, and Lansbury is an actress famous for ''playing'' a crime fiction author on ''[[Wikipedia:Murder, She Wrote|Murder, She Wrote]]''. Lansbury however ''did'' play Christie's fictional sleuth [[Wikipedia:Miss Marple|Miss Marple]] in the movie adaptation of Christie's ''[[Wikipedia:The Mirror Crack'd|The Mirror Crack'd]]''.<br /> *While Strong Bad is handling the video camera, his arms seem stretch to twice his regular arm length.<br /> *Strong Bad's camera remains centered while it's falling. For this to happen, it would actually have to be rotating in space before it finally falls to the ground.<br /> <br /> ===Glitches===<br /> *When Marzipan's angry expression is used, blinking causes her outline to be intruded.<br /> <br /> ===Inside References===<br /> * [[Pants]]burg is one of the [[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|places Strong Bad visited]] on his [[vacation]], and one of the places in [[Limozeen]]'s [[Limozeen#Zeenin' Across the Country 2001|Zeenin' Across the Country tour]].<br /> * Strong Bad's line, &quot;I can't believe I pulled the 'Mash stop when you think you're mashing record, and mash record when you think you're mashing stop' on myself&quot;, is a reference to [[Mashing Go|mashing go/play on something]]<br /> * The Atari seagull is from [[huttah!]]<br /> * Marzipan's [[Cool Tapes]] band comes from [[Cool Things]].<br /> * The toon's title contains the word [[Unusual Greetings#Weclome|Weclome]].<br /> * Homestar's slippers resemble [[Nebulon]].<br /> * Bubs' &quot;Baloney Sammich Truck&quot; has a [[Marshie]] look-alike sandwich on the top.<br /> * Bubs pronounces &quot;shaped plants&quot; the same way Strong Bad and Teenage Homestar pronounced &quot;striped pants&quot; in [[highschool]].<br /> * One of the places the Cool Tapes band visits is East Westerburg. Westerberg (spelled slightly differently) was visited in [[Thy Dungeonman 3]], and it was to the east of the player's starting location.<br /> * Pom Pom is wearing [[Dangeresque Too]]'s sunglasses.<br /> * In addition to the two ropes attaching the tire swings to the tree at the obstacle course, a third rope hangs from the sky and sways gently, as did the rope featured in [[A Folky Tale]].<br /> * The &quot;Gumball Surprise&quot; is another example of a [[Concoctions|concoction]].<br /> * Homestar's sleeping through June is similar to how he slept through most of Decemberween in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].<br /> * The Eh! Steve song &quot;Sweet Cup and Cakes&quot; refers to [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]], from which he originated.<br /> * The band &quot;Fresh Juice&quot; is one of the suggested band names from the worksheet in [[death metal]].<br /> <br /> ===Real-World References===<br /> *The city &quot;The Slickster&quot; (as seen on the Cool Tapes tour map) is a reference to former [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] manager [[Wikipedia:Ken Johnson (wrestling)|Ken Johnson]], whose ring name was Slick and often called &quot;The Slickster&quot; by the commentators.<br /> *The city of &quot;Thuxtable&quot; is a reference to Theo Huxtable, a character on [[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]. Theo Huxtable was previously mentioned in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], when Coach Z dressed up like him.<br /> *The design of the Cool Tapes Marzipan amps is based on the design of the classic Marshall amp, as seen in [[different town]].<br /> *The page title references the theme song from the sitcom ''[[Wikipedia:Welcome Back, Kotter|Welcome Back, Kotter]]'' (&quot;Welcome back / Your dreams were your ticket out...&quot;).<br /> *Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons. Some examples include the movies ''[[Wikipedia:Heavyweights|Heavyweights]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Meatballs (film)|Meatballs]]''.<br /> *The &quot;Freewheelin' Eh! Steve&quot; album cover is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan's]] early album, ''[[Wikipedia:The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan|The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan]]''. In addition, &quot;Eh! Steve's Dream&quot; is a reference to the Dylan song ''Bob Dylan's Dream'' and &quot;Talkin' Trying to Catch a Worm Blues&quot; refers to Dylan's song ''Talkin' World War III Blues''.<br /> *Homestar's [[Homestar Runner in pajamas|shirt]] is a reference to the movie ''[[Wikipedia:This Is Spinal Tap|This Is Spinal Tap]]'', in which [[Wikipedia:Nigel Tufnel|Nigel Tufnel]] is seen wearing the same shirt featuring a green ribcage and later remarks &quot;This is what I sleep in sometimes&quot;.<br /> *The Eh! Steve song &quot;Sweet Cups and Cakes&quot; is likely a ''[[Wikipedia:This Is Spinal Tap|This Is Spinal Tap]]'' reference as well, since &quot;Cups and Cakes&quot; is the name of a Spinal Tap song.<br /> *Strong Mad's violin styled bass bears a resemblance to the [[Wikipedia:Hofner|Hofner]] bass played by [[Wikipedia:Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney]]. However Strong Mad plays right handed, while Paul is left-handed.<br /> *Strong Bad's Narwhal reference is a reference to the popular internet game [http://www.spinnerdisc.com/narwhaldiving.html Narwhal Diving] at the website [http://www.spinnerdisc.com Spinnerdisc.com].<br /> *The sign on the merchandise table that reads &quot;Merch Masala&quot; refers to the 1985 Hindi movie [[Wikipedia:Mirch Masala|Mirch Masala]].<br /> *Homsar at the Merch table refers to himself as &quot;Light in the Leftovers.&quot; This comes from the phrase &quot;Light in the Loafers&quot; which is a (primarily southern) euphemism describing a homosexual.<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> *[[HR:weclomeback.html|watch &quot;Weclome Back&quot;]]<br /> *[[HR:weclomeback.swf|view the Flash file for &quot;Weclome Back&quot;]]<br /> *[[Forum:8992|forum thread re: &quot;Weclome Back&quot;]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Toons]]</div> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:01:54 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Weclome_Back http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Weclome_Back <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>==Bologna==<br /> We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna<br /> :Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only &quot;nonsense&quot;, and the meat product is ''bologna''. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of &quot;bologna&quot;; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that &quot;baloney&quot; doesn't mean &quot;bologna&quot; anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the &quot;baloney&quot; spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the &quot;baloney&quot; spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as &quot;sammich&quot; so the explicit use of &quot;baloney' was probably just word play.<br /> :::::&quot;Sammich&quot; is not a documented and accepted spelling of &quot;sandwich&quot;, however. &quot;Baloney&quot; is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except &quot;bologna&quot; in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels &quot;baloney&quot; is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&amp;dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying &quot;bologna&quot; would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&amp;m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&amp;u1=keyword&amp;u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&amp;m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&amp;u1=keyword&amp;u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as &quot;bologna&quot; everywhere but &quot;Baloney Sammich Truck&quot;. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as &quot;baloney&quot; is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that &quot;baloney&quot; is TBC's preferred spelling based off of &quot;Baloney Sammich Truck&quot;; no one's arguing that &quot;sandwich&quot; should be respelled &quot;sammich&quot; everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because &quot;sammich&quot; is not a lexicographically-accepted word. &quot;Baloney&quot; is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as &quot;bologna&quot; in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about &quot;pop&quot; and people argued we should call it &quot;soda&quot; because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it &quot;ba-low-knee&quot; or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere &quot;baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)&quot;.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::If only they had misspelled &quot;truck&quot; &amp;mdash; then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to &quot;(more commonly spelled bologna)&quot;. And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads &quot;Baloney&quot; on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'd just like to add that &quot;sammich&quot; is pronounced differently to &quot;sandwich&quot;, so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said &quot;I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!&quot; he clearly says &quot;sammich&quot;, and when he says &quot;I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach&quot; he clearly says &quot;sandwich&quot;. Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using &quot;sammich&quot; everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to &quot;we should use the correct term&quot; vs &quot;we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant&quot;. I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006<br /> <br /> ::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Strong Bad on the Airplane==<br /> Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?<br /> :I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Topiary==<br /> Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> :::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]<br /> <br /> == Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==<br /> <br /> They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John<br /> <br /> No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3<br /> <br /> :Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doin' that thing you do ==<br /> The lyric referring to &quot;our bass player&quot; reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested<br /> <br /> == &quot;The part with the narwhal?&quot; ==<br /> <br /> At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.<br /> :There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> :::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Homsars hat flying off... ==<br /> ...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Did anyone notice... ==<br /> The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...<br /> Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Blogs? ==<br /> <br /> Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said &quot;ladies' blogs&quot;, not &quot;latest blogs&quot;? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly &quot;latest&quot; to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I myself heard &quot;latest blogs&quot;. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Vlog or Blog? ==<br /> <br /> Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Homestar's Eyes ==<br /> <br /> Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his &quot;sleepy&quot; mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]]&lt;sup&gt;[[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rival camps ==<br /> <br /> Right now we have the following real-world reference:<br /> *Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.<br /> Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this<br /> -TheDensel<br /> <br /> I just added &quot;Heavyweights&quot; (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and &quot;Meatballs&quot; to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Goofs ==<br /> First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?<br /> :I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Arm length and head position goof?==<br /> When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in &quot;front&quot; of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Westerburg/berg ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Burg&quot; is the german word for &quot;Castle&quot;, while &quot;Berg&quot; is for &quot;Mount(ain)&quot;. Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?<br /> <br /> == TBC Vacation ==<br /> <br /> I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]<br /> :I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Island trivia==<br /> Do we really know for a fact that &quot;The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again&quot;? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)<br /> :Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ==Baloney Sammich Truck==<br /> Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says &quot;You shut your face&quot; to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::Already on it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)</div> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:19:56 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Weclome_Back http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This does not work anymore.<br /> [[:Image:Thank you wiki.png]] There you go. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :He says &quot;Thank You Wiki,&quot; as in, &quot;Thanks For The TDM3 Walkthrough, Homestar Runner Wiki; It Really Helped&quot;? Awexome ^_^ . &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says ''&quot;If you intend...&quot;'' Keyword '''IF'''. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you for sharing that, as I currently use this logo for our [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frappr] group. So I'm going now to add those statements requasted there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 4 million page views fast approaching ==<br /> <br /> We must be doing something right if we're getting that many main page views that quickly. (Well, either that or someone is repeatedly clicking &quot;Reload&quot;.) [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_9#3,000,000!|Three million]] was only three months ago. [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 6#I think today's the day...|I think we'll get that 2,000,002 more.]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's 4,001,240 views as of right now.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == CAPTCHA Codes: A new look at editing or a swan dive overboard? ==<br /> Hey everybody, whadda ya think about the CAPTCHA codes? You can post if it's a good idea or a bad idea. I think it's a bad idea, because they're so hard to read! And I think HRWiki's been a little ''too'' overprotective since The Incident.<br /> <br /> :[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account]] and you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]]. &amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that these captchas are really hard. It usually takes me 3 or 4 tries to get it right. Very annoying. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 23:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::As I mentioned, if you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]].&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Thanks, Tom. While I consider your solution, let me ask you to also consider my solution: get some easier CAPTCHAs, it will make it easier for anonymous editors. Simply put, I don't edit this site regularly enough to want an account, and 3 out of 4 times, I give up on my edits because of the CAPTCHA. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 10:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Then you are not tenacious enough. The captcha is not especially easy to read (that's the point, after all), but it's not especially difficult either; I just loaded several dozen of them, and I was able to guess the code correctly better than 9 out of every 10 times. Besides, even if you only edit once every six months, that's still enough to get an account. Making an account (and, later, logging in) takes no time at all. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::: Well congratulations on your superior CAPTCHA reading abilities. Maybe you should switch to anonymous editing. As for me, sometimes I have to do three or four tries for a single edit. Maybe it's because I'm not actually a person, but rather a spambot who thinks he's a person. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 14:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::Then why are you spending so much time trying to figure out CAPTCHAs when it takes a few seconds to register an account? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::: I'd tell you why I don't want to join your ridiculous community, but I'm afraid that if I did, one of your trigger happy admins would block me (again). Suffice to say that I don't want to be a part of your community, but I do check the site about once a month, and as a hardcore Wikipedia addict, I expect to be able to fix typos, improve wording, etc. When I find that I cannot, I get quite frustrated. It is of course your right to impose barriers to anonymous editing, but it is also my right to complain about it. I'm really quite sick of hearing as a response &quot;get an account&quot;. OK, I got it the first time. I don't need to hear 4 more times how getting an account will allow me to not edit anonymously. Thanks. For a change, why don't you try this response next time: &quot;dear IP address, we are a tightly knit community of editors, and we don't really want your edits if you can't be bothered to register an account, so bugger off&quot;. This would be much more honest, don't you think? [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 05:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::: Unfortunately, captcha (in its current form) is here to stay for the foreseeable future. We have proposed to you what we feel is a reasonable solution to your problem, but if you choose not to avail yourself of it, then fine, that's your business. Nobody said we didn't want your edits, and it's too bad that you find the method to eliminate the captchas even more inconvenient than putting up with them. You're free to complain, but every time you do, we have the right to tell you to get an account, whether or not you're sick of hearing it. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::What's this The Incident? There was a The Incident? Where was I? {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}} 21:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::[[HRWiki:A History#NSMC|NSMC]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Which brings up yet another question for critics of the captcha: How exactly do you suggest we prevent bot attacks like that of the NSMC vandal? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::: Maybe just a better captcha system. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 04:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Is Something Wrong?==<br /> When I go to the wiki homepage and mouse over my name, all those little prefrences and things go to the other side. {{unsigned|Dactyl22|02:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> I used to have it when i used IE6, it only happened half the time for me though. Maximizing your window helps, or if you want you can get firefox. It's your choice. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==monobook.js and monobook.css==<br /> <br /> What are they? And what are they for? [[User:ApocalypX|ApocalypX]]<br /> :See [[Meta:Help:User style|Meta &amp;rarr; Help:User style]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == H*R for lazy people! ==<br /> <br /> I don't want to have to check the hrwiki.org front page for Homestar Runner site updates. I want the SITE to contact ME. I want to subscribe to a Homestar Runner mailing list, so that I get emailed every time there's a new cartoon, email or game. Somebody start doing this please and I'll definately sign up! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We are a knowledge base, not a message service. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :That is the stupidest thing I have heard today, on several different levels. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 19:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hey, I'll gladly e-mail you when updates come out. I charge 3 dollars for big updates, 2 dollars for weeklies, and 1 dollar for minor updates. &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Actually, according to my understanding, the main H*R site used to do just that. Not anymore though, since for a very long time they were updating essentially weekly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, they did do that. I received their last update before they gave it up. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::What about using an RSS feed? [http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss This one] polls the official site for updates, or you could subscribe to [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this one] which polls the [[H*R.com updates 2006]] article for updates. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what going to happen? ==<br /> <br /> Because Homestar runner wiki didn't reach its donation goal, whats going to happen to it?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;pouf!&gt; It's gone! Actually, we're only like $25 away. Can you help? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You mean its like deleted?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''CHURCH:''' ''{sighs}'' Yes. The HRWiki is deleted. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And the fanstuff?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I actually have a dictionary without the word &quot;gullible&quot;. No, the wiki and the fanstuff wiki are in no IMMEDIATE risk of deltaco. But $25 short can mean the difference between meeting a monthly payment and failing to. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Then donate. I can't lose this wiki. I have gotten so many more friends on here. And I am sure so have som others.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just so you know, even if that's what you're thinking in your head, you really shouldn't post that in this thread. It's a very selfish way to put it and disrespects those who actually do donate. I understand that your situation is probably such that you are not in a position to donate, but nevertheless that's how you come across. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I redid it.<br /> <br /> :As it turns out, there were some donation stragglers, and we did end up meeting our goal. High fives! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How, much did we go over?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A technical poem ==<br /> <br /> On the main page boxes,where the recent updates and stuff art how'd they get the pics of the characters on em?<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; style=&quot;background:url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif') no-repeat bottom right;&quot;&gt;You mean that guy?&lt;br /&gt;I believe it was [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]].&lt;br /&gt;He took the image,&lt;br /&gt;changed The Colors on it,&lt;br /&gt;and added it to some technical place&lt;br /&gt;In the wiki software;&lt;br /&gt;something that requires Developer rights to do.&lt;br /&gt;Then he put it against a blue background,&lt;br /&gt;to make it all look nice.&lt;br /&gt;Hope that answers your question,&lt;br /&gt;sufficently. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> :You just know there's dozens of people still out there who are going to ask sooner or later, regardless. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :* The CSS code on Monobook.css reads:<br /> &lt;pre&gt; .MainPageWhatsNewBox, .MainPageWikiStuffBox {<br /> background: url(/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif);<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> }&lt;/pre&gt; CSS is your friend! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New main page style ==<br /> <br /> I tweaked the main page design. There seemed to be a pretty strong consensus that the [[:Image:Main Page Spring 2006.png|pink and baby blue]] were due for a change. Tell what U think about the new design. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slick! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 04:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice new style as we progress and change. &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's really, really nice. o_o I keep goin' back to look at it. Every time I look at it, I can't believe how awesome it is. It's just plain amazing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::::Very nice! Me liky. How about a section on [[HRWiki:A History]] about the design changes? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Shiny! I like how Strong Bad is popping in like the side, as if he's saying &quot;Hey, don't forget to get me too!&quot; - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Ugh. I don't like it. I dunno. Looks like its trying to be all futuristic and such. It just doesn't seem like the Wiki's style. [[User:Codejkoolguy|Codejkoolguy]] 05:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::just kinda... shiney and such.<br /> <br /> ::::::::I like it, but I don't like the gray backgrounds and the poster-SB/Homestar. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Meh, I like it pretty well. Though it is a just teeny bit too, umm, modern (for lack of a better word). But it's still pretty good, says I. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Too modern? That's un-possible. I say we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Concept is good, but Homestar image is too hard to make out. SB is OK, but I wonder if there more text if that would be so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I love the bars, but I'd like the slightly red and blue backgrounds for the tables to return- maybe in less pinky and baby blue colors. The Homestar is obscured as well, but overall, it's very stylish. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 05:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Qermaq: We had the same spacing problems with the old design, depending on the size of your browser window. I didn't attempt to even address that. This design is simply to move away from the pastel colors. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, spacing wasn't a problem here. Just the overall look is less in-your-face than it could be, more subtle than optimal. Mind you, a little red/blue wasn't so bad. A touch of those colors in the background might tie the whole page together better. But the images should be a little more bold. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I have implemented both of those suggestions. Remember, though, that subtle is good... we still have to be able to read text over the images. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::As is, the background might be a little '''too''' bold. Is there a middle ground? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I went back to the gray on the left. The red was just a little much and made Homestar look kinda weird, and if we go to a lighter red then we're right back to pink. I think the gray helps him stand out a little, and I really like the blue on the right and how Strong Bad looks against it. I also reduced the size of the characters to match what we had before. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::I love it! Do you think we should change the [[HRWiki:The Stick]] background as well? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 13:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :More of an artistic comment than a technical one, but I have a problem with the contrast of the main page style with the rest of the style. Basically, the reason that I liked the old style was that it's cartoony and soft-colors blended well with the rest of the site's design. I think that if the main page were just viewed alone, it would look very good. However, if we want to continue with a &quot;modern metal&quot; style, I think that we'd need a new background and a logo redesign, because the rest of the site is still very cartoony looking. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 14:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree about the contrast. The &lt;s&gt;two&lt;/s&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold;&quot;&gt;three&lt;/ins&gt; color bars seem really &quot;in your face.&quot; Sure, it's cool to use gradients once in awhile, but these particular ones are very sharp colors that just jump out at you in an unwarranted sort of way. Maybe fade them a little bit. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::My thoughts exactly. They look awesome, but they just don't fit with the rest oif the wiki. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks for all the work you put into it Dot com, it looks awsome. The bars do kind of stand out in relation to the rest of the page though, what about instead of fading from red/blue to black, what about fading to the background of the page? I'm not sure how that would look, but I'll just throw that out there. But it does look pretty darn snazzy. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It is pretty slick, though I think I liked the old one better. Is there a way to keep it available?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 15:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: You can override the CSS code. Copy the contents of [[User:AndrewNeo/monobook.css]] into yours ([[User:Bassbone/monobook.css]]) and it should look more-correct. I liked the older one better, too. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A lot of people are making the comments that it looks slick, snazzy, sharp, modern, and so on. ''This is 100-percent intentional.'' I strongly believe that the main page should be as interesting as possible, and with all due respect to the designer of the previous version, I have for a long time found it to be ''too'' flat, ''too'' cutesy. This is a site about a cartoon, but that doesn't mean we have to be strictly cartoony. My Simpsons quote above (&quot;forward, not backward...&quot;) was kind of silly, but I meant it. We should be doing everything to keep this site as up-to-date as possible. It's the first thing people see. As for whether it fits with the rest of the site, I think hardly any the rest of the site is or has been affected by what the main page looks like, and this one fits in as well as the previous one. But if updating the main page means we should update some other pages, then so be it (although I don't see the need for this). The other item that we should look at is whether we should update the logo (and I don't think the two suggestions based on the official H*R logo and Wikipedia's logo are viable candidates, simply because they are based on others' official logos). Last (this reply turned out to be a novel), look closely: the chrome effect does not fade to black, just a dark color. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I wasn't using slick as a perjorative. I just meant it looked slick and well-done. I like it. I just am used to the old one. I am a man set in his ways, so change happens to me slowly. But good work overall.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Good stuff, I like it. {{unsigned|71.131.249.78|}}<br /> <br /> ::::PWN-erific! --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 17:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::What exactly was &quot;PWN&quot;ed here?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The old style? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> :::::&lt;del&gt;As I mentioned in the forum, the chrome effect (whether it's a fade to black or just fade-to-darker isn't relevant&amp;mdash;we're all talking about the same thing) is a step back to the Clinton-era web design, not a step forward.&lt;/del&gt; I really appreciate the effort you put into this, It's dot com, and it's pretty clear that other aspects of the design are very popular, but you seem to be taking critiques of this one particular feature personally, which isn't helping to move this process forward. Why not try a few other things with it and see how people like them? When you're working for a client (and sure you're not getting paid, but you still have a client&amp;mdash;the HRWiki community) design is an iterative process with lots of push and pull, and I think we have a few more iterations to go before we'll have somethinge everyone is happy with. &lt;small&gt;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC) (Edit 17:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC))<br /> ::::::Dot com, I have to agree with Jones here some. Personally, I like the new look compared to the old. &lt;del&gt;However, I know that I don't hang out here as much as some of our other users, and so my opinion doesn't mean much.&lt;/del&gt; This is a wiki, everyone's opinion matters equally. I also happen to feel that if there is an alternative to using this style (as in, using your own monobook.css), then it really doesn't matter what the front page is :). In short, I like it, but if you still have more creative juice in those fingers of yours I wouldn't mind seeing what else you can come up with. {{User:Stu/sig}}19:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Although &quot;pink&quot; and &quot;baby blue&quot; weren't exactly the greatest colors in the opinion of many, I feel that this design is a bit... robotic. If anything, I'd rather we turn to Wikipedia's Main Page design, than these harsh, metallic gradients. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::&lt;s&gt;For those of you reverting to the old style by manually changing your monobook.css file to reflect the contents of [[User:AndrewNeo/monobook.css]], take a look at [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|my version]] real quick, Andrew missed a couple of borders. Obviously you don't need to copy the very first item in mine, which changes the logo, but I quickly patched up everything else in mine.&lt;/s&gt; --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 18:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::* Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't look very hard for what had changed. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 22:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Although using my monobook its red and green. So I guess it doesn't matter how it looks.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 18:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ugh, no. The big ugly gradients stand out way to much; they look totally out of place. Put it back. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 20:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The main page looks pretty good.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It suits the H*R theme perfectly I think. --[[User:Noonelikeskat|josh]] 21:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I love the new design. It's wonderful, although I can barely see the Homestar and Strong Bad backgrounds on my monitor. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 21:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::InterruptorJones: As I said on the forum (it really is dumb that we have two threads about this), I'm perfectly willing to compromise and have already. There's really no reason to suggest otherwise. I'm working on softening the chrome. To those scrambling to edit their personal CSS: I would wait a little bit, first because you may start to like the new design, and second because this is a work in progress and the specifications are likely to change for a little while. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I agree, the two threads are dumb, so I'll stick to this page from now on. The reason it seemed you were unwilling to compromise is because when I expressed my opinion about the chrome bars (which I admit I did not do in the best way, though I stand by my opinion) you didn't say &quot;Okay, I'll consider your opinion and that of others and come up with some revisions.&quot; Rather, you pointed out that they don't fade to black at all and then said &quot;I'm afraid I have to disagree with you completely there. All the coolest Firefox, Windows, and other skins have gone to a that effect, and the one I used on the main page was based on one I found that was only introduced this year. This is an up-to-date design,&quot; which, possibly despite your intentions, came off reading a lot like &quot;You're wrong and there's nothing wrong with my design and I'm not gonna change it.&quot; Anyway, I'm glad you're making revisions and I'm eager to see them. &lt;small&gt;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&lt;/small&gt; 00:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I see where the confusion was. (For those following along, at the time I was replying to a post where Jones had just said that chrome was popular in 1998 but not now.) This is what I meant to say: &quot;It's fine if you don't like the chrome, and we're still tweaking the design, but don't discount it simply because it seems retro to you, because I actually see the chrome in a lot of recent designs.&quot; That's all. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Well I like the chrome myself. It looks cool, if you ask me. And sure it stands out, but that's what headers are supposed to do. And it isn't eye-searing. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Man, I come home to the wiki, and bam, I see an awesome Main Page. Sweet new style. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::The only words that I can use to describe this new modern Main Page are: &quot;Awesome, awesome fancy danish.&quot; That's some nice designing, It's dot com. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> Okay, I dramatically softened the chrome. I don't like it as much, but I like it fine. I also enhanced the pictures of Homestar and Strong Bad, because I noticed that they're not as visible on my lappy as on my compy (now hopefully they're not too dark on the compy, which isn't where I am). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hmm... the background color seems to get cut off a little before reaching the top, and I don't like the lack of border. Besides that it's fine with me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You've softened it. I like it. Looks good. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 05:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I have no complaints. It looks really good now. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I've liked it from the beginning, and it looks extra-special-cool now. It takes awexome to new levels. The way it is right now is my most favourite design of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::::Joshua: You may need to do a hard refresh. It should be a smooth transition of color. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> I don't like the gradients. At all. Whatsoever. They look far too &quot;inexperienced Flash user&quot; to me. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}<br /> :Dot com, this is awesome. You've truly outdone yourself. I think that the headers are perfectly fine, and that they shouldn't be lightened anymore. However, I think that the background should be changed to a lighter grey, as we can then see Homestar better. Other than that, I love this format, and I'm glad to get rid of the pastels. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh yeah: Dot com, is there any way for you to show me what the headers used to look like? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Click on the link at the very top of this thread for the archived main page. The background you mention is a little tricky, because not all monitors are calibrated the same. Depending on your settings, it could either look too dark or too light, and so I aimed for a middle-of-the-road setting that would look acceptable, if not necessarily perfect, on most people's screens. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I have no personal problem with the backgrounds, but I'd much prefer solid-color headers, as with Wikipedia, Wikinews, et al. In fact, I can't actually ''find'' another Wiki that even uses gradients, much less makes them look good. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}<br /> :::::Maybe 'cause they haven't tried. At this point, I think enough people are good with this design that we're gonna go with it for a while. I myself did try using flat versions of the colors, and while they look passable, they seem to be missing that little something extra. You can always edit your personal CSS, though. I recommend #C90C00 (red) and #3470B9 (blue) if you want the colors to match. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I like it, especially the blue side. Good job --{{User:Garfunkel/sig}} 16:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] looking funny again ==<br /> <br /> [[User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3|TotalSpaceshipGuy3's]] sig is listed as a double redirect to about ten different pages, and the various rejected titles of [[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad's Relationship]] show up as well. None of the double redirects it mentions actually double redirect. Something's up &amp;mdash; ''again''. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm not sure what was up, but it's all clear now. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I had this awesome idea ==<br /> Maybe the wiki could have a myspace! I'll make it if anything. -EveryoneLovesStevenRight?<br /> :Sorry, but I think that's a bad idea. One of the best things about a wiki is that all of the biographical and informational articles are contained right within the wiki itself. Extrawiki pages, like the Frappr group, are interesting but ultimately unofficial. In a worst-case scenerio, a MySpace could be dangerous because its unmonitored nature is inviting to Internet predators and we have enough young users who might not know how to protect themselves. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree with [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]; a MySpace thingy would be a bad idea. In fact, I think that MySpace, in general, is a bad idea. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Homestar Runner Wikipedia featured article nomination ==<br /> <br /> The [[Wikipedia:Homestar Runner|Homestar Runner]] page on Wikipedia is currently being nominated to be a featured article. You can vote on whether or not it should be featured [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Homestar_Runner|here]]. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 17:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Frampton Running Gag ==<br /> <br /> Could the repeated mentions of Peter Frampton, as in the Strong Bad Main Page, sbemail 5, The best Decemberween ever, qualify ita as a running gag? Please let me know so I can make an article<br /> <br /> :I say go for it. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 01:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I did it, but it's already up for deletion. I need somebody to provide some help.'''Retromaniac'''<br /> <br /> ==#1 Jams==<br /> <br /> Should there be a page for #1 Jams?<br /> <br /> *You mean like Fhqwhgads and Sibbie (which was actually #3)? I think probably the songs' pages are enough, but we could make notes about the &quot;ranking&quot; of each song (and which ones are #1 summer jams) [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> Sibbie wasn't a #1 Jam. Plus there aren't enough appearences.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 23:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</div> Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:45:58 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Website_Sightings <p>Soapergem:&#32;something awful update</p> <hr /> <div>{{sightingslanguagewarning}}<br /> <br /> == The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards ==<br /> [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] won in the Best Use of Flash category at [http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm &quot;The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards&quot;]<br /> <br /> ==The $39 Experiment==<br /> On a site called [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com The $39 Experiment] a man named Tom Locke sent 100 letters to 100 companies asking for free stuff. In [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com/march15.htm one letter] to &quot;Del Monte Pet Products&quot; Tom claims that he has a dog named [[Li'l Brudder]].<br /> <br /> == 8-Bit Theater ==<br /> *In [http://www.nuklearpower.com/redmage21.php Twinkin' out with RedMage 21:Errata!], a-once weekly advice column, a reader inquires: &quot;How does strong bad type with boxing gloves&quot;<br /> &lt;!-- This page is for WEBSITE sightings; we already have pages for Animation and Comic sightings separately so don't add them here. --&gt;<br /> <br /> == 8BitJoystick.com ==<br /> In [http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_how_to_burn_xbox_games_and_copy_protected_cds.php this article] about how to literally burn CDs, the author notes to &quot;burn it properly like Trogdor burninates the peasants.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Addicting Games ==<br /> *[http://www.addictinggames.com The site] features [[Stinkoman 20X6]] and [[TROGDOR!]]<br /> *[[Awexome Cross]] and [[Population: Tire]] were on the site before it was redesigned. <br /> *In the game [http://www.addictinggames.com/trackmaster.html Track Master], if you get a good score it says good jorb. <br /> *In the game [http://www.http://www.addictinggames.com/slacker2.html Slacker 2], after you beat the game there is an epilogue, and if you zoom in on Slacker's nametag, it has a picture of [[Homestar Runner]].<br /> <br /> == All Your Base parody list ==<br /> The [http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/ayb.htm TmsT Zero Wing Parodies Emporium] features &quot;[http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/allyourstrongbad.htm All Your HomeStarRunner&lt;!-- [sic] --&gt; are belong to Trogdor]&quot;.<br /> <br /> == The Andy Milonakis Show website (MTV2) ==<br /> [http://www.mtv2.com/#andymilonakis The website] for this show has the marshmallow [[Wallpaper]] on the background of Videos, Photos, Episodes, Cast, and Shop.<br /> <br /> ==Animalxing.com==<br /> *On the [http://www.animalxing.com/patternsv3/textures.php Textures] page, They have many Homestar related designs such as Homestar, Strong Bad, The Cheat, etc. that can be found by typing in the search box. <br /> *An image of [[Strong Bad]] to be used on the Animal Crossing cat, Blanca, appears [http://www.animalxing.com/blanca_ah.php here.]<br /> <br /> == Atari Age == <br /> At [http://www.atariage.com this site], someone hacked the Atari &quot;Donkey Kong&quot; game. Player, Enemy, and Object sprites have been changed to resemble characters from Homestar Runner. [http://www.atariage.com/hack_page.html?SystemID=2600&amp;SoftwareHackID=186 You can find it here].<br /> <br /> == BB-Spot-''Which website are you?'' ==<br /> In the [http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz.php website personality test] at www.bbspot.com, one of the [http://bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz_all.html possible answers] you can get is Homestarrunner.com.<br /> <br /> == Best Page In The Universe ==<br /> On [http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net thebestpageintheuniverse.net] in one of Maddox's rants about the amount of emails he gets, he [http://maddox.xmission.com/aliens.html makes a little ode] to The Brothers Chaps. This must mean he is aware of homestarrunner.com. The actual quote is &quot;I know there are other big websites out there that generate a lot of email (my sympathies to the Chapman brothers)&quot;.<br /> <br /> == Bryan Waterman Interview ==<br /> Bryan Waterman, who does the series &quot;''[http://www.watermanstudios.com Waterman]''&quot; had an interview and he mentioned the best internet cartoon was Homestar Runner:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> :''Who is your favorite flash movie artist or flash artists if you have more than one? What are some of your favorite flash movie series?''<br /> <br /> :'''BRIAN WATERMAN:''' Above all else Homestar Runner not only do I love the cartoon, Mike and Matt are two good friends of mine. Bonus Stage is another one I really like and I do look forward to Joseph's animations.<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> [http://www.medaverse.com/modules.php?name=Sections&amp;op=viewarticle&amp;artid=2&amp;page=2 See It Here]<br /> <br /> == Charlie Clay And The Clay Crew ==<br /> At [http://www.freewebs.com/charlieclay/ this site], Season 1's episodes so far contain Homestar cameos.<br /> <br /> [http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209220516.gif&amp;s=x4 Episode 1] A Trogdor arcade game can be seen behind the Sonic arcade game that the crew is playing.<br /> <br /> [http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209253732.gif&amp;s=x4 Episode 2] The crew finds a grey monster, but when they put the flashlight on it, they find out it is actually Homestar and he helps them get their power back.<br /> <br /> [http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2915224932.gif&amp;s=x2 Episode 3] Jacob wears Homestar's shoes and gets beat up by Homestar, the text &quot;ROCK'D&quot; pops up when Charlie is hit by a rock in the head, the text &quot;ROCK'D AGAIN!&quot; pops up as a guy who commented the grammar error gets a rock thrown at his head, and Trogdor gets defeated by Charlie doing homing attack on him.<br /> <br /> [http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/3916110594.gif&amp;s=x7 Episode 4] &quot;Thief'd&quot; is the episode name and Homestar gets stolen by the thief.<br /> <br /> [http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6215223823.gif&amp;s=x10 Episode 5] Homestar escapes from the thief with Charlie.<br /> <br /> == Choose your own change ==<br /> If you submit a story to [http://www.cyoc.net Choose Your Own Change], the following message appears: &quot;Your article has been received... If Instructions on the previous page have been followed your story will be posted soon, if not it will be [[DELETED|baleeted!]]&quot;<br /> <br /> == Comcast.net ==<br /> [[Image:Comcast Homestar.PNG|thumb|It's Dot Net!]]<br /> On June 10th, 2004, HomestarRunner.com was featured on [http://www.comcast.net Comcast.net's] main page as the icon for its &quot;FUN FOR ALL AGES&quot; news article, where [[Homestar Runner]]'s image was displayed, along with a link to the website and [[The Brothers Chaps]]' meeting with G4TechTV.<br /> <br /> == Crash Mania ==<br /> On [http://crashmania.topcities.com/ this] site, [http://crashmania.topcities.com/paltiny.png this] screenshot has the profile name listed as &quot;[[Fhqwhgads|Fhqwgads]]&quot;.<br /> <br /> == Dance Dance Immolation ==<br /> On a site for Dance Dance Immolation, a flaming DDR, a gallery contains a picture of a man on fire with the caption &quot;BURNINATED!!&quot;. [http://www.interpretivearson.com/gallery/album05?page=3]<br /> <br /> == Dangerskew ==<br /> *A flash developer on [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com Albino Black Sheep], Dangerskew, is a reference to [[Dangeresque]]. <br /> *Some of the games developed by this author are [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cheeserobots Attack of the Cheese Eating Robots], [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/industry Industry], and [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/redlight Red Light].<br /> <br /> == Double-Tongued Word Wrester ==<br /> Neolinguist Grant Barrett has done an [http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/comments/3102/ entry on &quot;asplode&quot;] on his site. It looks like &quot;asplode&quot; was not coined by the Brothers Chaps, but he agrees that &quot;This term was popularized in 2004 by the character Strong Bad on the HomestarRunner web site.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Duct Tape Guys ==<br /> At [http://www.ducttapeguys.com DuctTapeGuys.com] on [http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/fashion/accessories/accessories1.html this]<br /> webpage there is a picture of a duct tape backpack featuring Strong Bad, Marzipan, and Homestar.<br /> <br /> == Episode Comparisons ==<br /> The anime episode comparison site [http://mmpu.smuncensored.com/ Mew Mew Power Uncensored] sometimes uses the term [[DELETED|Baleeted]] and frequently uses the Teen Girl Squad-esque term [[-'d|DELET'D]] in their comparisons to say when a scene was cut out.<br /> <br /> == Eric Conveys The Brothers Chaps? ==<br /> *Eric at [http://www.emotioneric.com Eric Conveys an Emotion] got together with The Brothers Chaps for a rough and tumble game of football, complete with Eric's warped and hilarious sense of humor. See a step-by-step progression of [http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame The Game]. On page 1 [[Trogdor]] is in the background, on page 2 [[The Ugly One]] is in the background, on page 3 [[Old-Timey Homestar]] is in the background, on page 4 Homestar is in the background, on page 5 [[Strong Bad]] is in the background, on page 6, [[The Cheat]] is actually in the foreground, on page 7, [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]] and a keg of [[Melonade]] are in the background, and on page 8, [[Stinkoman]] is in the background.<br /> *Also, in &quot;getting a great idea... while falling to your doom&quot; Eric has a [[Homsar]] shirt on. [http://www.emotioneric.com/greatideafalldoom.jpg greatideafalldoom.jpg]<br /> <br /> == Europa Universalis Forums ==<br /> This site has a large number of fanfiction entries for Paradox Entertainment games, such as Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron. The author Prufrock451 put a &quot;Private Benedetto&quot; in [http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204565 this] Hearts of Iron 2 After Action Report. He's told to &quot;keep that mess down&quot;.<br /> <br /> == Fake Domain Registration Info ==<br /> The [http://whois.webhosting.info/OLENE.NET. registration information] provided for &quot;olene.net&quot; references [[Mundelow]], [[Schenectady Crispies]], [[some kinda robot|Abdi LaRue]], [[Cheap as Free]], [[cheat talk|Cory, ND]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Coach Z's Locker Room|his locker room]].<br /> <br /> == FeedBurner ==<br /> [[Image:FeedBurner_Sighting.png|thumb|Let's date.]]<br /> On the [http://www.feedburner.com FeedBurner] website, in the section in which you can manage your feeds, random messages show up. One of them is this: &quot;To the nearly 140,000 customers using FeedBurner... we are [http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs2.html totally crushing] (in a good way).&quot; The link takes you to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]].<br /> <br /> == Flame Warriors ==<br /> The [http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm entry for Garble] includes a reference to a certain [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|infamous question often asked of Strong Bad]].<br /> <br /> == Flying Omelette's Kitchen ==<br /> *According to [http://www.flyingomelette.com/ this site], Strong Bad may have been switched at birth with Viewtiful Joe or the Red Power Ranger as found in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities45.html this article] .<br /> *Also, The Cheat is compared to Pikachu in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities31.html this article].<br /> <br /> == The Force.net Humor ==<br /> At a Star Wars Fansite's humor section one of their &quot;Top 46 lists&quot; titled 'Top 47 lesser known goals of the evil empire' says &quot;Secret co-production of Dangeresque 1, 2, &amp; 3&quot; at number 8. [http://www.theforce.net/humor/topten/ct10_lesser_known_goals_pt1.asp The List] [http://www.theforce.net/humor The Site]<br /> <br /> ==Forum Stage==<br /> On the main page, the description for episode 1 is &quot;Idiot gets sucked into the internet creating a cartoon so bad, [[Homestar Runner]] died.&quot; It can be seen [http://www.editthis.info/FSwiki/index.php/Internet here.]<br /> <br /> == Fred The Monkey ==<br /> [http://www.fredthemonkey.com/ Fred the Monkey.com] is a Flash animation site that is greatly influenced by Homestar Runner. It's been around for three years now. Like Homestar Runner, the site features a &quot;First Time Here&quot;-video and a mailbag, very much like Strong Bad's e-mail, and in the sixteenth mailbag, he comments on how he gets a lot of emails from people pretending to be Strong Bad. Another more obvious reference is displayed in [http://www.fredthemonkey.com/cartoons/reviewSM2.html this toon], where Fred The Monkey wears a Strong Bad mask at the end.<br /> <br /> == Fruitcake MIDI ==<br /> Dr. Fruitcake, a famous video game music sequencer and remixer, has created a song called &quot;The Occasional Beat (Strong Bad Remix)&quot; in tribute to [[new hands]]. Check the song out [http://www.fcmidi.net/mp3/drf_bw_beat.mp3 here]. [http://www.fcmidi.net Fruitcake MIDI]<br /> <br /> == Funny Junk ==<br /> In a flash cartoon [http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/smurf.htm here](warning: adult material), Strong Bad is dancing in the middle of the screen at about the middle of the flash cartoon. He dances like he does in [[The Luau]].<br /> <br /> == Funny Part ==<br /> [http://www.funnypart.com Funny part], a website with numerous funny pictures, cartoons, and jokes, had [[Teen Girl Squad]] issues 2 and 3 on their website, though they have since been removed. &lt;!-- http://www.funnypart.com/funny_flash/teen_girl_squad_2.shtml --&gt;<br /> <br /> == Futurama Madhouse ==<br /> At the [http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar Futurama Madhouse], they have a regular feature on &quot;Uses for a hacker&quot;. <br /> *[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack498.png Use #498] is entitled &quot;Homsar's Translator&quot; and features everyone's favorite blue midget Homestar, [[Homsar]]! <br /> **Also notable is the fact that the copyright reads &quot;&amp;copy; [[Tandy 400]], [[The Brothers Chaps|Chapman Bros]]&quot;.<br /> *[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack667.png Use #667] is entitled &quot;Homestar Runner's Evil Twin&quot;, and features, just that. <br /> *[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack669.png Use #669], entitled &quot;Strong Bad's Torture Victims Who Misspell Repeetedli&quot;, is the latest Homestar-related use for a hacker.<br /> <br /> ==Gamecheetz==<br /> *Homestar Runner is mentioned on the [http://www.gamecheetz.com GameCheetz] [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Links.html link] page under &quot;Excellent Humorous Sites&quot;.<br /> *In the comic [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Comic.php?comic=15692 &quot;Buzz Buzz&quot;], there's a caption in the 7th frame that reads &quot;If you don't know what this means, you need to go to homestarrunner.com&quot;.<br /> *One of the Forum avatars is a picture of Ilko's head.<br /> <br /> == GameFAQs ==<br /> *On the [http://www.gamefaqs.com GameFAQs] video game database, there are pages for [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/922153.html here] and [[Stinkoman 20X6]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/928815.html here], where each game has user-submitted walkthroughs, reviews and more, as well as its own message board!<br /> *Homestar Runner is listed as a company [http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/75484.html here].<br /> *Also, The Unofficial Homestarrunner board can be found [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=575567 here.]<br /> *On April Fools 2006, a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2333 poll] on GameFAQs listed a series of internet phrases, one of which being &quot;YOUR HEAD ASPLODE&quot;.<br /> <br /> == Google ==<br /> *Google's secret plans for an upcoming project are codenamed Trogdor. An article about these plans can be found at [http://www.valleywag.com/tech/google/googles-secret-plans-trogdor-calendar-and-wifi-153854.php this site].<br /> <br /> *On an episode of Google Current, the host (Conor Knighton) wears a Strong Bad shirt. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8426498908161701167&amp;q=Aqua+Teen&amp;pl=true Video]<br /> <br /> == Holy Bibble ==<br /> * On the comic page of comic [http://www.holybibble.net/index.php?id=93 #93], Cannan mentions &quot;Every time somebody gets burninated in Holy Bibble, I get the most awesome dreams...&quot;<br /> <br /> == Homokaasu.org ==<br /> A Homestar Runner [http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/gallery.gas?1331 wall-size printout] demonstrating homokaasu.org's Rasterbator software (Web service)<br /> <br /> ==Howstuffworks.com==<br /> In this [http://science.howstuffworks.com/cold-heat4.htm article] about the Cold Heat soldering iron, they refer to the solder as being &quot;burninated&quot;, an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].<br /> <br /> == IGN ==<br /> *The image behind the Nintendo Wi-Fi Registration Tool is from a [[Teen Girl Squad]] comic in [http://ds.ign.com/articles/665/665128p1.html this article].<br /> *In the Animal Crossing: Wild World video review at the 2:52 mark, there is a selection screen where you pick the design for your clothes. There are three Homestar inspired designs, including the red star shirt, a Homestar head, and Strong Bad. The video selection page is found [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vids_1.html here], and the actual video is on the top left, or [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vid_1341240.html here.]<br /> <br /> == I-Mockery==<br /> *I-Mockery's Great American Road Trip<br /> **At a medievil fair, RoG sees a simplistic dragon toy, and compares it to [[Trogdor]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/american-roadtrip/day4b.php here].<br /> *EVOLUTION OF JACK!<br /> **After Pjalne pretends to have stabbed himself in the arm, there is a picture of Andy with a caption of &quot;Halloween'd&quot;, which is a direct reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/bag/jack3.php here].<br /> *Bishop of Battle<br /> **On the second page of his review, the image of the Bishop swallowing J.J. is captioned with a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], &quot;YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!&quot; A direct link to the page is available [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/bishopofbattle/page2.php here]. Contains profanity.<br /> <br /> == Insert Disc Two ==<br /> In the sketch [http://www.insertdisctwo.com/jamesjoyce.htm My Dream Date with James Joyce], Lori Williams' character has a [[The Cheat]] doll on her bed.<br /> <br /> == Jay is games ==<br /> [http://jayisgames.com/ Jay is games] is a site that reviews a large number of online games. They have had reviews of [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2004/08/peasants_quest.php] and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2006/04/thy_dungeonman.php].<br /> <br /> == JengaJam.com ==<br /> [http://www.jengajam.com This] website always puts up links to the latest Homestar updates. The name of the site came from Homsar's quote in [[Where's The Cheat?]]<br /> <br /> == Kid Radd! ==<br /> At the [http://home.att.net/~miller.daniel.r/index.htm Kid Radd] web page, in one of the first<br /> comics, Kid Radd is upset because, &quot;My world [[StrongBadZone|a-splode]]!&quot;<br /> <br /> ==Kings of Chaos==<br /> After attacking an enemy in the MMORPG [http://www.kingsofchaos.com/ Kings of Chaos], the victory page will sometimes say &quot;You burninated the enemy!&quot; an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].<br /> <br /> == La La La ==<br /> The video &quot;[http://www.flashplayer.com/music/lalala.html La La La]&quot; on UGOplayer contains a few Homestar Runner characters, including Strong Bad and Homestar Runner. It also includes the Homestarmy wallpaper image, edited to suit the cartoon.<br /> <br /> == Legendaryfrog.net ==<br /> *In [http://www.legendaryfrog.net/flashmovies/kerri3.htm Kerrigan's Big Invention] there is a picture of Strong Bad and Homestar on the chalk board.<br /> *In [http://www.legendaryfrog.net/flashmovies/avp.htm Senya's movie review: Alien V.S. Predator] there are several cheat commandos toys by the toy box.<br /> <br /> == Lemmy's Land ==<br /> In one of [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/ Lemmy's] [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php Funnies] called [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php?&amp;Submission=514 &quot;Superstar Mario in Too Much Water&quot;] By Drew, we see the classic &quot;Scene missing&quot; bit from [[Parsnips-a-Plenty]] and [[The Homestar Runner]] says, &quot;What?&quot; while Mario was still drinking water to become fat.<br /> <br /> == &quot;The Lost Experience&quot; ABC's Official Blog ==<br /> In [http://blogs.abc.com/inside_the_experience/ Speaker's &quot;Reader Mail 2&quot;], after one question was repeated one too many times, Speaker angrily responds, &quot;Grah! What? Who? GAH! Is this my 'How do you type with boxing gloves on?' question?&quot;<br /> <br /> == Mind Body Guide ==<br /> *Strong Bad is the featured image of a slightly tongue-in-cheek tally of the body’s many muscles on [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/many-muscles.php this site]. <br /> *Strong Bad Email [[suntan]] is quoted when the article states, &quot;let’s not forget the cloits and dloits!&quot;<br /> *The [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/many-muscles.php#note1 footnote] says &quot;There are no such thing as cloits or dloits. This is a reference to anatomy according to Strong Bad, which is hilarious, and included here entirely for the sake of comic relief. Kind of like the whole article, come to think of it.&quot;<br /> <br /> == More Awesome Than You! ==<br /> *[http://www.moreawesomethanyou.net This] page (warning: explicit &quot;under construction&quot; graphic) the index.html page title is &quot;More Awesome Than You PAY PLUS!&quot;, an obvious reference to [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. <br /> *The main logo has a picture of [[Trogdor]] on it.<br /> *Seven of the sub-forums are marked as been in the &quot;[[Trogdor|Burnination]]&quot; parent forum. One of the child forums in the &quot;Burnination&quot; parent forum is entitled &quot;[[Peasantry]]&quot;. Another is titled &quot;[[theme park|Bowels of Trogdor]]&quot;. Yet another is titled &quot;[[Planet K]] [[20X6]]&quot;. A child forum under the &quot;Peasantry&quot; forum is &quot;Made-Up Animals&quot;, with the description: &quot;[[animal|If you were a sim, what would you like as if?]]&quot;<br /> *Several phrases used are similar, or based on Homestar Runner phrases. Examples include: &quot;Game exploding in a [[pom pom|big fiery ball that is visible from space]]&quot; and &quot;[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|GameCube is no place for a mighty warrior.]]&quot;<br /> <br /> == Neglected Characters ==<br /> *[http://www.smbhq.com/nc/ This] is a site where the Neglected Characters of Mario games are honored. One of them, [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/guide.html Dr. Donez], answers questions regularly (much like [[Strong Bad Email]]) at [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/askdrd.html Ask Dr. Donez].<br /> **In [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/e501600.html question 595], [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v14011500.html question 1412], and [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v18011900.html question 1842] he gets asked how he types with boxing gloves on his hands, which he responds differently each time.<br /> *In one of Bowser's [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/election/radical/bowser/speeches.html speeches], Koopa asks Bowser, &quot;How do you know Trogdor?&quot; and he replies &quot;We went to Burniniation classes together.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Neopets ==<br /> *[http://www.neopets.com Neopets] released a new avatar with the caption &quot;Your Lupe A Splode&quot; which is an obvious reference to [[video games]] and [[StrongBadZone]].<br /> [[Image:Yourlupeasplode.gif]]<br /> *In this avatar, the caption reads &quot;Garlic'd!&quot; at the end-an obvious Teen Girl Squad reference.<br /> [[Image:Runaway garlic.gif]]<br /> *Another avatar features a Scorchio (a dragon-like Neopet) with the caption &quot;Burninate!&quot;, an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].<br /> [[Image:Scordrax.gif]]<br /> *Neopets also has an avatar reserved for theneopetsteam, a staff username, which references the &quot;a splode.&quot;<br /> [[Image:Tntasplode.gif]]<br /> *There is also a Petpet Laboratory, that can change your Petpet's image, and one thing that can happen is your Petpet's name can change to [[So and So]].<br /> == NES Horsemen ==<br /> *On [http://www.neshorsemen.com/ this site], [http://www.neshorsemen.com/oreview.html this page] has several references, including a variation on the &quot;dot dot dot&quot; quote from [[Under Construction]] and a reference to the [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] (&quot;featuring the most polygonal of technoligies&quot;). [[20X6]] is also mentioned.<br /> <br /> == Nintendojo ==<br /> As an April Fools prank, Nintendojo put up a [http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1143867894 fake list of characters] for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl. [[Trogdor]] is among the characters listed.<br /> <br /> == NoSlang.com ==<br /> The [http://www.noslang.com NoSlang.com] [http://www.noslang.com/spelling.php &quot;commonly misspelled words&quot;] page has a statement saying, &quot;Since not everybody owns a copy of '[[local news#Easter Eggs|Strong Bad's Rythm &lt;!-- sic --&gt; N' Grammar]],' we've tried to do our part to help by compiling a list of common internet misspellings.&quot; It also posted a &quot;Happy Birthday Trogdor&quot; link from January 13th through January 16th, 2006.<br /> <br /> == Olde English ==<br /> In their [http://oldeenglish.org/general.html General Procrastination] sketch, Razin was holding off going to battle by going on the internet and watching the new Strong Bad Email. (which really wasn't even an email, he opened up the Strong Bad bio 'toon and the email menu.)<br /> <br /> [http://oldeenglish.org View Oldeenglish].<br /> <br /> ==OrbiTouch==<br /> On the website for [http://www.keybowl.com/kb/index?page=benefits OrbiTouch], a new, safe way to type, they mention that you can &quot;Type with Boxing Gloves On&quot; in the lower right-hand side of one of their pages.<br /> <br /> ==Pure Pwnage ==<br /> [[Image:Purepwnage_email.jpg|thumb|Jeremy from Pure Pwnage]]At the beginning of episode 10, Jeremy answers e-mails in the exact same style as Strong Bad does. The computer used says &quot;[[Compy 386]]&quot; in the corner.<br /> <br /> http://www.purepwnage.com/ (WARNING: Contains language and derogatery terms!)<br /> <br /> == PVP Online ==<br /> [[Pan Pan]] shows up in a panda line-up on [http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20060421 pvponline.com], done by guest artist [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Howard Taylor].<br /> <br /> == Real Ultimate Power ==<br /> Parodies of [http://www.realultimatepower.net '''''Real Ultimate Power'''''] are everywhere. A fan [http://www.geocities.com/viggler/trogdor.html made one] featuring TROGDOR.<br /> <br /> == Red vs Blue ==<br /> *At [http://www.redvsblue.com Red vs Blue] they made a public service announcement about tattoos (It appears every 4 weeks or so in the season 1 archive). When Church suggests you get a tattoo of your favorite character from your favorite online comic (obviously referring to himself), Strong Bad's face appears on-screen instead.<br /> *A Strong Bad and a Homestar sticker is also seen during the Red vs. Blue segment in the Halo 2 Limited Collectors Edition DVD, on the window of a door.<br /> <br /> == Rinkworks Graffiti ==<br /> Homestar is referenced twice on the [http://www.rinkworks.com/ Rinkworks] [http://www.rinkworks.com/graffiti graffiti pages]. <br /> *The text &quot;[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|Baleted]]&quot; can be seen [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=12 here]. <br /> *An image of Strong Bad has been crudely pasted in to all the other crazy stuff going on [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=14 here].<br /> <br /> == Rocketboom ==<br /> *On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/12/rb_05_dec_05.html 12/5/05] episode of the v-log [http://www.rocketboom.com/ Rocketboom], Amanda Congdon is wearing a Homestar Runner shirt.<br /> <br /> *On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/04/rb_06_apr_12.html 4/12/2006] episode, after Amanda reports about a human clock, she comments that she still likes her [[Strong Bad Clock]] better.<br /> <br /> == Sam &amp; Max Episodes ==<br /> On the [http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax/faq FAQ page for the new Sam &amp; Max game,] Homestar Runner is mentioned--praised, even.<br /> <br /> == The Schumin Web ==<br /> The [http://www.schuminweb.com/ splash page] for November 2005 showed an image of Ben Schumin dressed up as [[The Thnikkaman]]. The same image also appears in the [http://www.schuminweb.com/schumin-web/archives/splash-page.asp Splash Page Archives].<br /> <br /> == Shenmue II : The Gang Edition ==<br /> In the fan-movie [http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/%7Eshenmuedojo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14850&amp;sid=4d196b2cc178187c5528f347a593e744 Shenmue II : The Gang Edition], when Ryo arrives at Guilin, he is distracted by a The Cheat Talking Plush Doll, which is the guardian of the village where Shenhua lives.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Later, Ryo kicks the Plush Doll, making it complain.<br /> <br /> == Shoot the Cliché ==<br /> Trogdor appears as one of the clichés in this game from [http://www.anothersite.co.uk another site].<br /> [http://www.anothersite.co.uk/news.php?artc=131&amp; Click here] to play the game.<br /> <br /> == Something Awful ==<br /> {{sitelanguagenotice}}<br /> Strong Bad, Homestar, Strong Mad, The Cheat and Marzipan appear as grotesque caricatures in [http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3714 Tub Bites vol. 2.]. The computer used in the toon appears to be a parody of the [[Compy 386]]. The first email is &quot;[[DELETED!|Recycle Binned!]]&quot;. Homestar returns Strong Bad's ''[[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]]'' game, as well as some of his &quot;[[Crap|crappy]] catchphrases&quot; (the one used as an example is &quot;[[Crap#Holy Crap! and Other Exclamations|holy crap!]]&quot;). Also, this is reprised with an obvious parody of a [[How_Do_You_Type_With_Boxing_Gloves_On%3F|&quot;How do you type with boxing gloves on?&quot;]]-style Strong Bad e-mail in [http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=3867&amp;p=5 Karnov Bites].<br /> *The Easter egg is a parody of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], featuring calls from parodies of Strong Bad, the King of Town, Homsar, Coach Z and Strong Sad.<br /> <br /> == South Park Studios ==<br /> Somebody at South Park Studios is a fan, as a January 28, 2006 [http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_faq_search.php?section=2&amp;id=38887&amp;search_faq= FAQ update] contains the following: <br /> <br /> '''Q. - How do you type with boxing gloves on?''' &lt;br&gt;A. - I'm sorry, this is &quot;Ask South Park&quot; not &quot;Ask StrongBad ''(sic)''.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Stinkoman 20X6 on VGMusic.com ==<br /> *[http://www.vgmusic.com VGMusic.com] have done a remix of some of the Stinkoman 20X6 soundtrack. However, since VGMusic doesn't allow direct linking to MIDI files, the creator has put them up on his website for download. The links can be found here:<br /> *[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelselect.mid Level Select]<br /> *[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelstart.mid Level Start]<br /> *[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level1.mid Level 1] <br /> *[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_boss.mid Boss Theme]<br /> *[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level2.mid Level 2]<br /> *[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level8.mid Level 8]<br /> These files were sequenced by Tyler Prevost.<br /> <br /> == The Straight Dope ==<br /> The StrongBadZone was submitted for [http://www.straightdope.com/columns/ Weird Earl's] on [http://www.straightdope.com/ The Straight Dope], a category featuring strange and/or awesome sites.<br /> <br /> == Stick RPG 2 ==<br /> On the [http://www.stickrpg2.com/news.php#1147888194 news post for May 17], there is a line that says &quot;what are you using, a 386?&quot;, with &quot;386&quot; being a link to [[invisibility]].<br /> <br /> == Strong Bad Pilots an F/A-22 Raptor == <br /> For a short time, Strong Bad could be seen on the Lockheed Martin [http://www.f22-raptor.com/ F/A-22 Raptor Team Web Site] [[:Image:sbf22.png|F/A-22 Raptor]].<br /> <br /> ==Suave==<br /> [http://www.suave.net/~dave/trogdor.cgi This Suave page] is about Trogdor, Strong Bad, and The Cheat.<br /> <br /> == Superdickery.com ==<br /> *In a &quot;Bizzaro letters&quot; segment, one guy writes &quot;Dear Strongbad: How do you type with boxing gloves on?&quot; [http://www.superdickery.com/gabliam4-16.html]<br /> *Also, the creator says &quot;head a'splode&quot; in a little blurb following [http://www.superdickery.com/other/256.html this comic cover]<br /> <br /> == Technopets ==<br /> On [http://technopets00.tripod.com technopets00.tripod.com], in the tpemail [http://technopets00.tripod.com/id36.html Icons], the e-mail message at the bottom says &quot;Email me. Bad emails will be burninated, er burned&quot;<br /> <br /> == ThinkGeek ==<br /> [http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/722a/action/2111db4/ Here] there is a picture showing plastic toys dressed up for halloween. One of the toys is dressed up as Strong Bad (or, as they call him, &quot;Strong Bob&quot;).<br /> <br /> == Uncyclopedia==<br /> *On the ever-popular factually-inaccurate encyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia], the VfD (vote for deletion) template reads &quot;Baleeted! This article is total crap. Please VFD.&quot;<br /> *According to [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Homestar_Runner%27s_face_is_seen_on_milk_cartons_worldwide. this article], Homestar Runner has gone missing. Several inside references.<br /> * In [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Errors.png this image], one of the error messages is the &quot;[[:Image:this is real.png|Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.]]&quot; error from [[50 emails]].<br /> * One of the user awards includes [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Burninator Burninator].<br /> *In the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Recentnews Recentnews] template, one of the news items reads that &quot;An astremely astonishing asperiment has show that acessive asposure to '''[[StrongBadZone|Strong Bad Zone]]''' has an astraordinarily affect on grammar.&quot;<br /> *If you attempt to restore [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork/File_1 File 1] of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork Zork], you have some [[Grumblecakes]] in your inventory. You are also wearing the [[Kerrek]]'s belt.<br /> *Fake (or at least, mostly fake) descriptions of the characters have been entered.<br /> **'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner Homestar Runner]''': &quot;A prolific actor (famous for playing the role of [[Matt Chapman]] in the 2000 movie &quot;Flash Cartoonists&quot;)&quot;<br /> **'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Strong_Bad Strong Bad]''': One of &quot;the most notable and prolific singer/songwriters of the past decade&quot;.<br /> **'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Coach_Z Coach Z]''': &quot;An athletic genius&quot; and &quot;a prolific writer and rapper&quot;.<br /> **'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pom_Pom Pom Pom]''': &quot;A large, balloon-like alien from the planet Inflatrosis&quot;.<br /> **'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Trogdor_the_Burninator Trogdor]''': &quot;The son of the Friendly Giant and Puff, The Magic Dragon&quot;.<br /> *[[homsar]] has been &quot;sporked&quot; from this Wiki (see [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homsar here]). There is also an article on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tandy_400 Tandy 400], as well as one on [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner_Wiki this Wiki].<br /> *[[50K Racewalker|50K RaceWalker]] is listed as the 43rd [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Worst_100_Computer_Games_of_All_Time worst computer game of all time].<br /> *There are [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows/25#Category_.CF.80:_The_World_Wide_CoWeb 5 Homestar Runner variations] of the phrase &quot;[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows You have two cows]&quot;.<br /> *The start of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Game_Online Game Online] is a direct rip-off of the start of [[Thy Dungeonman]].<br /> *Two of the choices for [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Monster the monster template] are &quot;a [[The Yello Dello|Yello Dello]]&quot; and &quot;a cavalry of [[Dongrel|dongrel]]s&quot;.<br /> *Two of the choices on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Random/killed random &quot;killed by&quot; template] are &quot;[[Trogdor|burninated]]&quot; and &quot;[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|BALEETED!]]&quot;<br /> <br /> == Urban Dictionary ==<br /> On July 1st, 2005, the main page &quot;word of the day&quot; on Urban Dictionary was biz cas fri. (It is misspelled as &quot;bis cas fri.&quot;) [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bis+cas+fri&amp;defid=801385]<br /> <br /> Various other phrases and words are defined on the site (with varying degrees of accuracy in spelling and content) such as [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Teen+Girl+Squad Teen Girl Squad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Strong+Bad Strong Bad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homestar+runner Homestar Runner], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fhgwhgads fhqwhgads], and [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Somebody+get+this+freaking+duck+away+from+me &quot;Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!&quot;].<br /> <br /> == Variousimmers ==<br /> On [http://www.variousimmers.net this site] dedicated to modding [[Wikipedia:The Sims 2|The Sims 2]], two of the objects are a [[Painting of a guy with a big knife]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=518 here]), and a Strong Bad [[monument]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=1568 here]).<br /> &lt;!-- VG Cats is mentioned on the Comic Sightings page. --&gt;<br /> == VG Mix ==<br /> [http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=615 Here] there is a remix of the first racing tune from Rad Racer (which is also Stinkoman's theme). The title references to [[japanese cartoon]] and the song itself contains quotes from said e-mail.<br /> <br /> == Wikipedia's April Fool's Day Article 2005 ==<br /> Homestar in his Daisy Dukes was eventually added to the somewhat lengthy Wikipedia April Fool's Day 2005 article detailing a hostile takeover of Wikipedia by Encyclopedia Britannica. He was part of Wikipedia's &quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&amp;oldid=11827614#New_corporate_structure new corporate structure]&quot; as the Minister of Long Pants. He was then pictured lower on the page in the &quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&amp;oldid=11828885#Immediate_aftermath Immediate Aftermath]&quot; section, then moved to the &quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&amp;oldid=11833150#Related_Information Related Information]&quot; section, then finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&amp;oldid=11833471 dropped] altogether. The page as it exists now can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:April_1%2C_2005/2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia here], and the edit history for the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&amp;action=history here]. Strong Bad was also named Minister of Deleting email, and is found directly under Homestar's listing.<br /> <br /> == ytmnd ==<br /> Many Homestar Runner-related [http://ytmnd.com You're The Man Now, Dog] pages have been [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=homestar created], such as [http://hatesomuch.ytmnd.com/ this one], which involves the [[Cheat Commandos]], [http://homestarspin.ytmnd.com/ this one], which includes a scene from [[dangeresque 3]], [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=freakin+duck these], which all reference [[Main Page 13]], and [http://mahmoudahmadinejad.ytmnd.com/ this one] which capitalizes on the song [[Everybody to the Limit]], involving [[Fhqwhgads]].<br /> <br /> ==Zingtech==<br /> The [http://www.zingtech.com/features/painting/ paintings] section of the website features an acrylic painting entitled [[Painting of a guy with a big knife|&quot;Guy With a Big Knife&quot;]].<br /> <br /> {{Template:sightingslist}}<br /> [[Category:Sightings]]</div> Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:39:57 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Website_Sightings http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>#p-logo a /* change the logo */<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> td.MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/733/redfade1pn.gif') !important;<br /> }</div> Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:08:56 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>#p-logo a /* change the logo */<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }</div> Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:20:45 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This does not work anymore.<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says ''&quot;If you intend...&quot;'' Keyword '''IF'''. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you for sharing that, as I currently use this logo for our [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frappr] group. So I'm going now to add those statements requasted there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 4 million page views fast approaching ==<br /> <br /> We must be doing something right if we're getting that many main page views that quickly. (Well, either that or someone is repeatedly clicking &quot;Reload&quot;.) [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_9#3,000,000!|Three million]] was only three months ago. [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 6#I think today's the day...|I think we'll get that 2,000,002 more.]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's 4,001,240 views as of right now.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == CAPTCHA Codes: A new look at editing or a swan dive overboard? ==<br /> Hey everybody, whadda ya think about the CAPTCHA codes? You can post if it's a good idea or a bad idea. I think it's a bad idea, because they're so hard to read! And I think HRWiki's been a little ''too'' overprotective since The Incident.<br /> <br /> :[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account]] and you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]]. &amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that these captchas are really hard. It usually takes me 3 or 4 tries to get it right. Very annoying. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 23:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::As I mentioned, if you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]].&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Is Something Wrong?==<br /> When I go to the wiki homepage and mouse over my name, all those little prefrences and things go to the other side. {{unsigned|Dactyl22|02:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> I used to have it when i used IE6, it only happened half the time for me though. Maximizing your window helps, or if you want you can get firefox. It's your choice. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==monobook.js and monobook.css==<br /> <br /> What are they? And what are they for? [[User:ApocalypX|ApocalypX]]<br /> :See [[Meta:Help:User style|Meta &amp;rarr; Help:User style]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == H*R for lazy people! ==<br /> <br /> I don't want to have to check the hrwiki.org front page for Homestar Runner site updates. I want the SITE to contact ME. I want to subscribe to a Homestar Runner mailing list, so that I get emailed every time there's a new cartoon, email or game. Somebody start doing this please and I'll definately sign up! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We are a knowledge base, not a message service. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Actually, according to my understanding, the main H*R site used to do just that. Not anymore though, since for a very long time they were updating essentially weekly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, they did do that. I received their last update before they gave it up. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::What about using an RSS feed? [http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss This one] polls the official site for updates, or you could subscribe to [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this one] which polls the [[H*R.com updates 2006]] article for updates. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what going to happen? ==<br /> <br /> Because Homestar runner wiki didn't reach its donation goal, whats going to happen to it?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;pouf!&gt; It's gone! Actually, we're only like $25 away. Can you help? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You mean its like deleted?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''CHURCH:''' ''{sighs}'' Yes. The HRWiki is deleted. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And the fanstuff?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I actually have a dictionary without the word &quot;gullible&quot;. No, the wiki and the fanstuff wiki are in no IMMEDIATE risk of deltaco. But $25 short can mean the difference between meeting a monthly payment and failing to. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Then donate. I can't lose this wiki. I have gotten so many more friends on here. And I am sure so have som others.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just so you know, even if that's what you're thinking in your head, you really shouldn't post that in this thread. It's a very selfish way to put it and disrespects those who actually do donate. I understand that your situation is probably such that you are not in a position to donate, but nevertheless that's how you come across. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I redid it.<br /> <br /> :As it turns out, there were some donation stragglers, and we did end up meeting our goal. High fives! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How, much did we go over?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A technical poem ==<br /> <br /> On the main page boxes,where the recent updates and stuff art how'd they get the pics of the characters on em?<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; style=&quot;background:url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif') no-repeat bottom right;&quot;&gt;You mean that guy?&lt;br /&gt;I believe it was [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]].&lt;br /&gt;He took the image,&lt;br /&gt;changed The Colors on it,&lt;br /&gt;and added it to some technical place&lt;br /&gt;In the wiki software;&lt;br /&gt;something that requires Developer rights to do.&lt;br /&gt;Then he put it against a blue background,&lt;br /&gt;to make it all look nice.&lt;br /&gt;Hope that answers your question,&lt;br /&gt;sufficently. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> :You just know there's dozens of people still out there who are going to ask sooner or later, regardless. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :* The CSS code on Monobook.css reads:<br /> &lt;pre&gt; .MainPageWhatsNewBox, .MainPageWikiStuffBox {<br /> background: url(/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif);<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> }&lt;/pre&gt; CSS is your friend! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New main page style ==<br /> <br /> I tweaked the main page design. There seemed to be a pretty strong consensus that the [[:Image:Main Page Spring 2006.png|pink and baby blue]] were due for a change. Tell what U think about the new design. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slick! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 04:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice new style as we progress and change. &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's really, really nice. o_o I keep goin' back to look at it. Every time I look at it, I can't believe how awesome it is. It's just plain amazing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::::Very nice! Me liky. How about a section on [[HRWiki:A History]] about the design changes? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Shiny! I like how Strong Bad is popping in like the side, as if he's saying &quot;Hey, don't forget to get me too!&quot; - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Ugh. I don't like it. I dunno. Looks like its trying to be all futuristic and such. It just doesn't seem like the Wiki's style. [[User:Codejkoolguy|Codejkoolguy]] 05:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::just kinda... shiney and such.<br /> <br /> ::::::::I like it, but I don't like the gray backgrounds and the poster-SB/Homestar. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Meh, I like it pretty well. Though it is a just teeny bit too, umm, modern (for lack of a better word). But it's still pretty good, says I. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Too modern? That's un-possible. I say we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Concept is good, but Homestar image is too hard to make out. SB is OK, but I wonder if there more text if that would be so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I love the bars, but I'd like the slightly red and blue backgrounds for the tables to return- maybe in less pinky and baby blue colors. The Homestar is obscured as well, but overall, it's very stylish. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 05:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Qermaq: We had the same spacing problems with the old design, depending on the size of your browser window. I didn't attempt to even address that. This design is simply to move away from the pastel colors. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, spacing wasn't a problem here. Just the overall look is less in-your-face than it could be, more subtle than optimal. Mind you, a little red/blue wasn't so bad. A touch of those colors in the background might tie the whole page together better. But the images should be a little more bold. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I have implemented both of those suggestions. Remember, though, that subtle is good... we still have to be able to read text over the images. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::As is, the background might be a little '''too''' bold. Is there a middle ground? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I went back to the gray on the left. The red was just a little much and made Homestar look kinda weird, and if we go to a lighter red then we're right back to pink. I think the gray helps him stand out a little, and I really like the blue on the right and how Strong Bad looks against it. I also reduced the size of the characters to match what we had before. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::I love it! Do you think we should change the [[HRWiki:The Stick]] background as well? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 13:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :More of an artistic comment than a technical one, but I have a problem with the contrast of the main page style with the rest of the style. Basically, the reason that I liked the old style was that it's cartoony and soft-colors blended well with the rest of the site's design. I think that if the main page were just viewed alone, it would look very good. However, if we want to continue with a &quot;modern metal&quot; style, I think that we'd need a new background and a logo redesign, because the rest of the site is still very cartoony looking. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 14:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree about the contrast. The &lt;s&gt;two&lt;/s&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold;&quot;&gt;three&lt;/ins&gt; color bars seem really &quot;in your face.&quot; Sure, it's cool to use gradients once in awhile, but these particular ones are very sharp colors that just jump out at you in an unwarranted sort of way. Maybe fade them a little bit. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::My thoughts exactly. They look awesome, but they just don't fit with the rest oif the wiki. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks for all the work you put into it Dot com, it looks awsome. The bars do kind of stand out in relation to the rest of the page though, what about instead of fading from red/blue to black, what about fading to the background of the page? I'm not sure how that would look, but I'll just throw that out there. But it does look pretty darn snazzy. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It is pretty slick, though I think I liked the old one better. Is there a way to keep it available?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 15:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: You can override the CSS code. Copy the contents of [[User:AndrewNeo/monobook.css]] into yours ([[User:Bassbone/monobook.css]]) and it should look more-correct. I liked the older one better, too. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A lot of people are making the comments that it looks slick, snazzy, sharp, modern, and so on. ''This is 100-percent intentional.'' I strongly believe that the main page should be as interesting as possible, and with all due respect to the designer of the previous version, I have for a long time found it to be ''too'' flat, ''too'' cutesy. This is a site about a cartoon, but that doesn't mean we have to be strictly cartoony. My Simpsons quote above (&quot;forward, not backward...&quot;) was kind of silly, but I meant it. We should be doing everything to keep this site as up-to-date as possible. It's the first thing people see. As for whether it fits with the rest of the site, I think hardly any the rest of the site is or has been affected by what the main page looks like, and this one fits in as well as the previous one. But if updating the main page means we should update some other pages, then so be it (although I don't see the need for this). The other item that we should look at is whether we should update the logo (and I don't think the two suggestions based on the official H*R logo and Wikipedia's logo are viable candidates, simply because they are based on others' official logos). Last (this reply turned out to be a novel), look closely: the chrome effect does not fade to black, just a dark color. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I wasn't using slick as a perjorative. I just meant it looked slick and well-done. I like it. I just am used to the old one. I am a man set in his ways, so change happens to me slowly. But good work overall.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Good stuff, I like it. {{unsigned|71.131.249.78|}}<br /> <br /> ::::PWN-erific! --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 17:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::What exactly was &quot;PWN&quot;ed here?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The old style? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> :::::&lt;del&gt;As I mentioned in the forum, the chrome effect (whether it's a fade to black or just fade-to-darker isn't relevant&amp;mdash;we're all talking about the same thing) is a step back to the Clinton-era web design, not a step forward.&lt;/del&gt; I really appreciate the effort you put into this, It's dot com, and it's pretty clear that other aspects of the design are very popular, but you seem to be taking critiques of this one particular feature personally, which isn't helping to move this process forward. Why not try a few other things with it and see how people like them? When you're working for a client (and sure you're not getting paid, but you still have a client&amp;mdash;the HRWiki community) design is an iterative process with lots of push and pull, and I think we have a few more iterations to go before we'll have somethinge everyone is happy with. &lt;small&gt;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC) (Edit 17:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC))<br /> <br /> :Although &quot;pink&quot; and &quot;baby blue&quot; weren't exactly the greatest colors in the opinion of many, I feel that this design is a bit... robotic. If anything, I'd rather we turn to Wikipedia's Main Page design, than these harsh, metallic gradients. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::&lt;s&gt;For those of you reverting to the old style by manually changing your monobook.css file to reflect the contents of [[User:AndrewNeo/monobook.css]], take a look at [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|my version]] real quick, Andrew missed a couple of borders. Obviously you don't need to copy the very first item in mine, which changes the logo, but I quickly patched up everything else in mine.&lt;/s&gt; --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 18:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::* Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't look very hard for what had changed. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 22:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Although using my monobook its red and green. So I guess it doesn't matter how it looks.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 18:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ugh, no. The big ugly gradients stand out way to much; they look totally out of place. Put it back. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 20:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The main page looks pretty good.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It suits the H*R theme perfectly I think. --[[User:Noonelikeskat|josh]] 21:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I love the new design. It's wonderful, although I can barely see the Homestar and Strong Bad backgrounds on my monitor. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 21:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::InterruptorJones: As I said on the forum (it really is dumb that we have two threads about this), I'm perfectly willing to compromise and have already. There's really no reason to suggest otherwise. I'm working on softening the chrome. To those scrambling to edit their personal CSS: I would wait a little bit, first because you may start to like the new design, and second because this is a work in progress and the specifications are likely to change for a little while. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I agree, the two threads are dumb, so I'll stick to this page from now on. The reason it seemed you were unwilling to compromise is because when I expressed my opinion about the chrome bars (which I admit I did not do in the best way, though I stand by my opinion) you didn't say &quot;Okay, I'll consider your opinion and that of others and come up with some revisions.&quot; Rather, you pointed out that they don't fade to black at all and then said &quot;I'm afraid I have to disagree with you completely there. All the coolest Firefox, Windows, and other skins have gone to a that effect, and the one I used on the main page was based on one I found that was only introduced this year. This is an up-to-date design,&quot; which, possibly despite your intentions, came off reading a lot like &quot;You're wrong and there's nothing wrong with my design and I'm not gonna change it.&quot; Anyway, I'm glad you're making revisions and I'm eager to see them. &lt;small&gt;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&lt;/small&gt; 00:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I see where the confusion was. (For those following along, at the time I was replying to a post where Jones had just said that chrome was popular in 1998 but not now.) This is what I meant to say: &quot;It's fine if you don't like the chrome, and we're still tweaking the design, but don't discount it simply because it seems retro to you, because I actually see the chrome in a lot of recent designs.&quot; That's all. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Well I like the chrome myself. It looks cool, if you ask me. And sure it stands out, but that's what headers are supposed to do. And it isn't eye-searing. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Man, I come home to the wiki, and bam, I see an awesome Main Page. Sweet new style. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> Okay, I dramatically softened the chrome. I don't like it as much, but I like it fine. I also enhanced the pictures of Homestar and Strong Bad, because I noticed that they're not as visible on my lappy as on my compy (now hopefully they're not too dark on the compy, which isn't where I am). &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hmm... the background color seems to get cut off a little before reaching the top, and I don't like the lack of border. Besides that it's fine with me. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You've softened it. I like it. Looks good. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 05:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)</div> Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:20:23 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This does not work anymore.<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says ''&quot;If you intend...&quot;'' Keyword '''IF'''. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you for sharing that, as I currently use this logo for our [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frappr] group. So I'm going now to add those statements requasted there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 4 million page views fast approaching ==<br /> <br /> We must be doing something right if we're getting that many main page views that quickly. (Well, either that or someone is repeatedly clicking &quot;Reload&quot;.) [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_9#3,000,000!|Three million]] was only three months ago. [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 6#I think today's the day...|I think we'll get that 2,000,002 more.]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's 4,001,240 views as of right now.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == CAPTCHA Codes: A new look at editing or a swan dive overboard? ==<br /> Hey everybody, whadda ya think about the CAPTCHA codes? You can post if it's a good idea or a bad idea. I think it's a bad idea, because they're so hard to read! And I think HRWiki's been a little ''too'' overprotective since The Incident.<br /> <br /> :[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account]] and you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]]. &amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that these captchas are really hard. It usually takes me 3 or 4 tries to get it right. Very annoying. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 23:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::As I mentioned, if you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]].&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Is Something Wrong?==<br /> When I go to the wiki homepage and mouse over my name, all those little prefrences and things go to the other side. {{unsigned|Dactyl22|02:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> I used to have it when i used IE6, it only happened half the time for me though. Maximizing your window helps, or if you want you can get firefox. It's your choice. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==monobook.js and monobook.css==<br /> <br /> What are they? And what are they for? [[User:ApocalypX|ApocalypX]]<br /> :See [[Meta:Help:User style|Meta &amp;rarr; Help:User style]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == H*R for lazy people! ==<br /> <br /> I don't want to have to check the hrwiki.org front page for Homestar Runner site updates. I want the SITE to contact ME. I want to subscribe to a Homestar Runner mailing list, so that I get emailed every time there's a new cartoon, email or game. Somebody start doing this please and I'll definately sign up! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We are a knowledge base, not a message service. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Actually, according to my understanding, the main H*R site used to do just that. Not anymore though, since for a very long time they were updating essentially weekly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, they did do that. I received their last update before they gave it up. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::What about using an RSS feed? [http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss This one] polls the official site for updates, or you could subscribe to [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this one] which polls the [[H*R.com updates 2006]] article for updates. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what going to happen? ==<br /> <br /> Because Homestar runner wiki didn't reach its donation goal, whats going to happen to it?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;pouf!&gt; It's gone! Actually, we're only like $25 away. Can you help? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You mean its like deleted?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''CHURCH:''' ''{sighs}'' Yes. The HRWiki is deleted. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And the fanstuff?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I actually have a dictionary without the word &quot;gullible&quot;. No, the wiki and the fanstuff wiki are in no IMMEDIATE risk of deltaco. But $25 short can mean the difference between meeting a monthly payment and failing to. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Then donate. I can't lose this wiki. I have gotten so many more friends on here. And I am sure so have som others.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just so you know, even if that's what you're thinking in your head, you really shouldn't post that in this thread. It's a very selfish way to put it and disrespects those who actually do donate. I understand that your situation is probably such that you are not in a position to donate, but nevertheless that's how you come across. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I redid it.<br /> <br /> :As it turns out, there were some donation stragglers, and we did end up meeting our goal. High fives! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How, much did we go over?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A technical poem ==<br /> <br /> On the main page boxes,where the recent updates and stuff art how'd they get the pics of the characters on em?<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; style=&quot;background:url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif') no-repeat bottom right;&quot;&gt;You mean that guy?&lt;br /&gt;I believe it was [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]].&lt;br /&gt;He took the image,&lt;br /&gt;changed The Colors on it,&lt;br /&gt;and added it to some technical place&lt;br /&gt;In the wiki software;&lt;br /&gt;something that requires Developer rights to do.&lt;br /&gt;Then he put it against a blue background,&lt;br /&gt;to make it all look nice.&lt;br /&gt;Hope that answers your question,&lt;br /&gt;sufficently. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> :You just know there's dozens of people still out there who are going to ask sooner or later, regardless. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :* The CSS code on Monobook.css reads:<br /> &lt;pre&gt; .MainPageWhatsNewBox, .MainPageWikiStuffBox {<br /> background: url(/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif);<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> }&lt;/pre&gt; CSS is your friend! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New main page style ==<br /> <br /> I tweaked the main page design. There seemed to be a pretty strong consensus that the [[:Image:Main Page Spring 2006.png|pink and baby blue]] were due for a change. Tell what U think about the new design. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slick! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 04:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice new style as we progress and change. &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's really, really nice. o_o I keep goin' back to look at it. Every time I look at it, I can't believe how awesome it is. It's just plain amazing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::::Very nice! Me liky. How about a section on [[HRWiki:A History]] about the design changes? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Shiny! I like how Strong Bad is popping in like the side, as if he's saying &quot;Hey, don't forget to get me too!&quot; - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Ugh. I don't like it. I dunno. Looks like its trying to be all futuristic and such. It just doesn't seem like the Wiki's style. [[User:Codejkoolguy|Codejkoolguy]] 05:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::just kinda... shiney and such.<br /> <br /> ::::::::I like it, but I don't like the gray backgrounds and the poster-SB/Homestar. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Meh, I like it pretty well. Though it is a just teeny bit too, umm, modern (for lack of a better word). But it's still pretty good, says I. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Too modern? That's un-possible. I say we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Concept is good, but Homestar image is too hard to make out. SB is OK, but I wonder if there more text if that would be so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I love the bars, but I'd like the slightly red and blue backgrounds for the tables to return- maybe in less pinky and baby blue colors. The Homestar is obscured as well, but overall, it's very stylish. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 05:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Qermaq: We had the same spacing problems with the old design, depending on the size of your browser window. I didn't attempt to even address that. This design is simply to move away from the pastel colors. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, spacing wasn't a problem here. Just the overall look is less in-your-face than it could be, more subtle than optimal. Mind you, a little red/blue wasn't so bad. A touch of those colors in the background might tie the whole page together better. But the images should be a little more bold. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I have implemented both of those suggestions. Remember, though, that subtle is good... we still have to be able to read text over the images. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::As is, the background might be a little '''too''' bold. Is there a middle ground? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I went back to the gray on the left. The red was just a little much and made Homestar look kinda weird, and if we go to a lighter red then we're right back to pink. I think the gray helps him stand out a little, and I really like the blue on the right and how Strong Bad looks against it. I also reduced the size of the characters to match what we had before. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::I love it! Do you think we should change the [[HRWiki:The Stick]] background as well? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 13:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :More of an artistic comment than a technical one, but I have a problem with the contrast of the main page style with the rest of the style. Basically, the reason that I liked the old style was that it's cartoony and soft-colors blended well with the rest of the site's design. I think that if the main page were just viewed alone, it would look very good. However, if we want to continue with a &quot;modern metal&quot; style, I think that we'd need a new background and a logo redesign, because the rest of the site is still very cartoony looking. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 14:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree about the contrast. The &lt;s&gt;two&lt;/s&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold;&quot;&gt;three&lt;/ins&gt; color bars seem really &quot;in your face.&quot; Sure, it's cool to use gradients once in awhile, but these particular ones are very sharp colors that just jump out at you in an unwarranted sort of way. Maybe fade them a little bit. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::My thoughts exactly. They look awesome, but they just don't fit with the rest oif the wiki. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks for all the work you put into it Dot com, it looks awsome. The bars do kind of stand out in relation to the rest of the page though, what about instead of fading from red/blue to black, what about fading to the background of the page? I'm not sure how that would look, but I'll just throw that out there. But it does look pretty darn snazzy. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It is pretty slick, though I think I liked the old one better. Is there a way to keep it available?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 15:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: You can override the CSS code. Copy the contents of [[User:AndrewNeo/monobook.css]] into yours ([[User:Bassbone/monobook.css]]) and it should look more-correct. I liked the older one better, too. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A lot of people are making the comments that it looks slick, snazzy, sharp, modern, and so on. ''This is 100-percent intentional.'' I strongly believe that the main page should be as interesting as possible, and with all due respect to the designer of the previous version, I have for a long time found it to be ''too'' flat, ''too'' cutesy. This is a site about a cartoon, but that doesn't mean we have to be strictly cartoony. My Simpsons quote above (&quot;forward, not backward...&quot;) was kind of silly, but I meant it. We should be doing everything to keep this site as up-to-date as possible. It's the first thing people see. As for whether it fits with the rest of the site, I think hardly any the rest of the site is or has been affected by what the main page looks like, and this one fits in as well as the previous one. But if updating the main page means we should update some other pages, then so be it (although I don't see the need for this). The other item that we should look at is whether we should update the logo (and I don't think the two suggestions based on the official H*R logo and Wikipedia's logo are viable candidates, simply because they are based on others' official logos). Last (this reply turned out to be a novel), look closely: the chrome effect does not fade to black, just a dark color. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Good stuff, I like it. {{unsigned|71.131.249.78|}}<br /> <br /> ::::PWN-erific! --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 17:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::&lt;del&gt;As I mentioned in the forum, the chrome effect (whether it's a fade to black or just fade-to-darker isn't relevant&amp;mdash;we're all talking about the same thing) is a step back to the Clinton-era web design, not a step forward.&lt;/del&gt; I really appreciate the effort you put into this, It's dot com, and it's pretty clear that other aspects of the design are very popular, but you seem to be taking critiques of this one particular feature personally, which isn't helping to move this process forward. Why not try a few other things with it and see how people like them? When you're working for a client (and sure you're not getting paid, but you still have a client&amp;mdash;the HRWiki community) design is an iterative process with lots of push and pull, and I think we have a few more iterations to go before we'll have somethinge everyone is happy with. &lt;small&gt;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC) (Edit 17:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC))<br /> <br /> :Although &quot;pink&quot; and &quot;baby blue&quot; weren't exactly the greatest colors in the opinion of many, I feel that this design is a bit... robotic. If anything, I'd rather we turn to Wikipedia's Main Page design, than these harsh, metallic gradients. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For those of you reverting to the old style by manually changing your monobook.css file to reflect the contents of [[User:AndrewNeo/monobook.css]], take a look at [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|my version]] real quick, Andrew missed a couple of borders. Obviously you don't need to copy the very first item in mine, which changes the logo, but I quickly patched up everything else in mine. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 18:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:22:16 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>#p-logo a /* change the logo */<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/homestar-background.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> border-color: #f66 !important;<br /> border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #fcc;<br /> background-image: 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color: #000;<br /> font-size: 120%;<br /> margin: 0em -0.3em;<br /> padding: 0.3em;<br /> }</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:18:59 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem/monobook.css <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>#p-logo a /* change the logo */<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/homestar-background.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> border-color: #f66;<br /> border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #fcc;<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/header-background-star-red.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> border-color: #f66;<br /> border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> color: #000;<br /> font-size: 120%;<br /> margin: 0em -0.3em;<br /> padding: 0.3em;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageWhatsNewBox, .MainPageWikiStuffBox<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> border-color: #66f;<br /> border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageWhatsNewBox h3, .MainPageWikiStuffBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #ccf;<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/header-background-star-blue.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> border-color: #66f;<br /> border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> color: #000;<br /> font-size: 120%;<br /> margin: 0em -0.3em;<br /> padding: 0.3em;<br /> }</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:17:43 GMT Soapergem 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<div>#p-logo a /* change the logo */<br /> {<br /> background: url('http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c9/Homestarpedia.png/146px-Homestarpedia.png') 35% 50% no-repeat !important;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/homestar-background.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageKnowledgeBaseBox h3<br /> {<br /> background-color: #fcc;<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/header-background-star-red.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom right;<br /> background-repeat: no-repeat;<br /> border-color: #f66;<br /> border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> color: #000;<br /> font-size: 120%;<br /> margin: 0em -0.3em;<br /> padding: 0.3em;<br /> }<br /> <br /> .MainPageWhatsNewBox, .MainPageWikiStuffBox<br /> {<br /> background-image: url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif');<br /> background-position: bottom 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border-style: solid;<br /> border-width: 1px;<br /> font-size: 120%;<br /> margin: 0em -0.3em;<br /> padding: 0.3em;<br /> }</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:14:39 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem/monobook.css http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This does not work anymore.<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says ''&quot;If you intend...&quot;'' Keyword '''IF'''. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you for sharing that, as I currently use this logo for our [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frappr] group. So I'm going now to add those statements requasted there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 4 million page views fast approaching ==<br /> <br /> We must be doing something right if we're getting that many main page views that quickly. (Well, either that or someone is repeatedly clicking &quot;Reload&quot;.) [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_9#3,000,000!|Three million]] was only three months ago. [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 6#I think today's the day...|I think we'll get that 2,000,002 more.]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's 4,001,240 views as of right now.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == CAPTCHA Codes: A new look at editing or a swan dive overboard? ==<br /> Hey everybody, whadda ya think about the CAPTCHA codes? You can post if it's a good idea or a bad idea. I think it's a bad idea, because they're so hard to read! And I think HRWiki's been a little ''too'' overprotective since The Incident.<br /> <br /> :[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account]] and you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]]. &amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that these captchas are really hard. It usually takes me 3 or 4 tries to get it right. Very annoying. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 23:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::As I mentioned, if you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]].&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Is Something Wrong?==<br /> When I go to the wiki homepage and mouse over my name, all those little prefrences and things go to the other side. {{unsigned|Dactyl22|02:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> I used to have it when i used IE6, it only happened half the time for me though. Maximizing your window helps, or if you want you can get firefox. It's your choice. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==monobook.js and monobook.css==<br /> <br /> What are they? And what are they for? [[User:ApocalypX|ApocalypX]]<br /> :See [[Meta:Help:User style|Meta &amp;rarr; Help:User style]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == H*R for lazy people! ==<br /> <br /> I don't want to have to check the hrwiki.org front page for Homestar Runner site updates. I want the SITE to contact ME. I want to subscribe to a Homestar Runner mailing list, so that I get emailed every time there's a new cartoon, email or game. Somebody start doing this please and I'll definately sign up! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We are a knowledge base, not a message service. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Actually, according to my understanding, the main H*R site used to do just that. Not anymore though, since for a very long time they were updating essentially weekly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, they did do that. I received their last update before they gave it up. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::What about using an RSS feed? [http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss This one] polls the official site for updates, or you could subscribe to [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this one] which polls the [[H*R.com updates 2006]] article for updates. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what going to happen? ==<br /> <br /> Because Homestar runner wiki didn't reach its donation goal, whats going to happen to it?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;pouf!&gt; It's gone! Actually, we're only like $25 away. Can you help? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You mean its like deleted?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''CHURCH:''' ''{sighs}'' Yes. The HRWiki is deleted. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And the fanstuff?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I actually have a dictionary without the word &quot;gullible&quot;. No, the wiki and the fanstuff wiki are in no IMMEDIATE risk of deltaco. But $25 short can mean the difference between meeting a monthly payment and failing to. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Then donate. I can't lose this wiki. I have gotten so many more friends on here. And I am sure so have som others.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just so you know, even if that's what you're thinking in your head, you really shouldn't post that in this thread. It's a very selfish way to put it and disrespects those who actually do donate. I understand that your situation is probably such that you are not in a position to donate, but nevertheless that's how you come across. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I redid it.<br /> <br /> :As it turns out, there were some donation stragglers, and we did end up meeting our goal. High fives! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How, much did we go over?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A technical poem ==<br /> <br /> On the main page boxes,where the recent updates and stuff art how'd they get the pics of the characters on em?<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; style=&quot;background:url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif') no-repeat bottom right;&quot;&gt;You mean that guy?&lt;br /&gt;I believe it was [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]].&lt;br /&gt;He took the image,&lt;br /&gt;changed The Colors on it,&lt;br /&gt;and added it to some technical place&lt;br /&gt;In the wiki software;&lt;br /&gt;something that requires Developer rights to do.&lt;br /&gt;Then he put it against a blue background,&lt;br /&gt;to make it all look nice.&lt;br /&gt;Hope that answers your question,&lt;br /&gt;sufficently. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> :You just know there's dozens of people still out there who are going to ask sooner or later, regardless. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New main page style ==<br /> <br /> I tweaked the main page design. There seemed to be a pretty strong consensus that the [[:Image:Main Page Spring 2006.png|pink and baby blue]] were due for a change. Tell what U think about the new design. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slick! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 04:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice new style as we progress and change. &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's really, really nice. o_o I keep goin' back to look at it. Every time I look at it, I can't believe how awesome it is. It's just plain amazing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::::Very nice! Me liky. How about a section on [[HRWiki:A History]] about the design changes? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Shiny! I like how Strong Bad is popping in like the side, as if he's saying &quot;Hey, don't forget to get me too!&quot; - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Ugh. I don't like it. I dunno. Looks like its trying to be all futuristic and such. It just doesn't seem like the Wiki's style. [[User:Codejkoolguy|Codejkoolguy]] 05:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::just kinda... shiney and such.<br /> <br /> ::::::::I like it, but I don't like the gray backgrounds and the poster-SB/Homestar. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Meh, I like it pretty well. Though it is a just teeny bit too, umm, modern (for lack of a better word). But it's still pretty good, says I. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Too modern? That's un-possible. I say we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Concept is good, but Homestar image is too hard to make out. SB is OK, but I wonder if there more text if that would be so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I love the bars, but I'd like the slightly red and blue backgrounds for the tables to return- maybe in less pinky and baby blue colors. The Homestar is obscured as well, but overall, it's very stylish. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 05:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Qermaq: We had the same spacing problems with the old design, depending on the size of your browser window. I didn't attempt to even address that. This design is simply to move away from the pastel colors. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, spacing wasn't a problem here. Just the overall look is less in-your-face than it could be, more subtle than optimal. Mind you, a little red/blue wasn't so bad. A touch of those colors in the background might tie the whole page together better. But the images should be a little more bold. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I have implemented both of those suggestions. Remember, though, that subtle is good... we still have to be able to read text over the images. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::As is, the background might be a little '''too''' bold. Is there a middle ground? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I went back to the gray on the left. The red was just a little much and made Homestar look kinda weird, and if we go to a lighter red then we're right back to pink. I think the gray helps him stand out a little, and I really like the blue on the right and how Strong Bad looks against it. I also reduced the size of the characters to match what we had before. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::I love it! Do you think we should change the [[HRWiki:The Stick]] background as well? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 13:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :More of an artistic comment than a technical one, but I have a problem with the contrast of the main page style with the rest of the style. Basically, the reason that I liked the old style was that it's cartoony and soft-colors blended well with the rest of the site's design. I think that if the main page were just viewed alone, it would look very good. However, if we want to continue with a &quot;modern metal&quot; style, I think that we'd need a new background and a logo redesign, because the rest of the site is still very cartoony looking. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 14:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree about the contrast. The &lt;s&gt;two&lt;/s&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold;&quot;&gt;three&lt;/ins&gt; color bars seem really &quot;in your face.&quot; Sure, it's cool to use gradients once in awhile, but these particular ones are very sharp colors that just jump out at you in an unwarranted sort of way. Maybe fade them a little bit. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:47:59 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This does not work anymore.<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says ''&quot;If you intend...&quot;'' Keyword '''IF'''. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you for sharing that, as I currently use this logo for our [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frappr] group. So I'm going now to add those statements requasted there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 4 million page views fast approaching ==<br /> <br /> We must be doing something right if we're getting that many main page views that quickly. (Well, either that or someone is repeatedly clicking &quot;Reload&quot;.) [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_9#3,000,000!|Three million]] was only three months ago. [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 6#I think today's the day...|I think we'll get that 2,000,002 more.]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's 4,001,240 views as of right now.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == CAPTCHA Codes: A new look at editing or a swan dive overboard? ==<br /> Hey everybody, whadda ya think about the CAPTCHA codes? You can post if it's a good idea or a bad idea. I think it's a bad idea, because they're so hard to read! And I think HRWiki's been a little ''too'' overprotective since The Incident.<br /> <br /> :[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account]] and you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]]. &amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that these captchas are really hard. It usually takes me 3 or 4 tries to get it right. Very annoying. [[User:66.168.31.12|66.168.31.12]] 23:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::As I mentioned, if you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] you won't need to bother with the CAPTCHA to edit. Registering a free account takes only a few seconds, and has [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|many benefits]].&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Is Something Wrong?==<br /> When I go to the wiki homepage and mouse over my name, all those little prefrences and things go to the other side. {{unsigned|Dactyl22|02:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> I used to have it when i used IE6, it only happened half the time for me though. Maximizing your window helps, or if you want you can get firefox. It's your choice. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==monobook.js and monobook.css==<br /> <br /> What are they? And what are they for? [[User:ApocalypX|ApocalypX]]<br /> :See [[Meta:Help:User style|Meta &amp;rarr; Help:User style]]. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == H*R for lazy people! ==<br /> <br /> I don't want to have to check the hrwiki.org front page for Homestar Runner site updates. I want the SITE to contact ME. I want to subscribe to a Homestar Runner mailing list, so that I get emailed every time there's a new cartoon, email or game. Somebody start doing this please and I'll definately sign up! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 21:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We are a knowledge base, not a message service. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Actually, according to my understanding, the main H*R site used to do just that. Not anymore though, since for a very long time they were updating essentially weekly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, they did do that. I received their last update before they gave it up. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::What about using an RSS feed? [http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss This one] polls the official site for updates, or you could subscribe to [http://theblackforge.net/hrwiki.xml this one] which polls the [[H*R.com updates 2006]] article for updates. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == what going to happen? ==<br /> <br /> Because Homestar runner wiki didn't reach its donation goal, whats going to happen to it?<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;pouf!&gt; It's gone! Actually, we're only like $25 away. Can you help? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You mean its like deleted?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''CHURCH:''' ''{sighs}'' Yes. The HRWiki is deleted. &amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And the fanstuff?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I actually have a dictionary without the word &quot;gullible&quot;. No, the wiki and the fanstuff wiki are in no IMMEDIATE risk of deltaco. But $25 short can mean the difference between meeting a monthly payment and failing to. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Then donate. I can't lose this wiki. I have gotten so many more friends on here. And I am sure so have som others.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just so you know, even if that's what you're thinking in your head, you really shouldn't post that in this thread. It's a very selfish way to put it and disrespects those who actually do donate. I understand that your situation is probably such that you are not in a position to donate, but nevertheless that's how you come across. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I redid it.<br /> <br /> :As it turns out, there were some donation stragglers, and we did end up meeting our goal. High fives! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How, much did we go over?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A technical poem ==<br /> <br /> On the main page boxes,where the recent updates and stuff art how'd they get the pics of the characters on em?<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; style=&quot;background:url('/skins/common/images/strongbad-background.gif') no-repeat bottom right;&quot;&gt;You mean that guy?&lt;br /&gt;I believe it was [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]].&lt;br /&gt;He took the image,&lt;br /&gt;changed The Colors on it,&lt;br /&gt;and added it to some technical place&lt;br /&gt;In the wiki software;&lt;br /&gt;something that requires Developer rights to do.&lt;br /&gt;Then he put it against a blue background,&lt;br /&gt;to make it all look nice.&lt;br /&gt;Hope that answers your question,&lt;br /&gt;sufficently. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> :You just know there's dozens of people still out there who are going to ask sooner or later, regardless. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New main page style ==<br /> <br /> I tweaked the main page design. There seemed to be a pretty strong consensus that the [[:Image:Main Page Spring 2006.png|pink and baby blue]] were due for a change. Tell what U think about the new design. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slick! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 04:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice new style as we progress and change. &amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's really, really nice. o_o I keep goin' back to look at it. Every time I look at it, I can't believe how awesome it is. It's just plain amazing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::::Very nice! Me liky. How about a section on [[HRWiki:A History]] about the design changes? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Shiny! I like how Strong Bad is popping in like the side, as if he's saying &quot;Hey, don't forget to get me too!&quot; - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Ugh. I don't like it. I dunno. Looks like its trying to be all futuristic and such. It just doesn't seem like the Wiki's style. [[User:Codejkoolguy|Codejkoolguy]] 05:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::just kinda... shiney and such.<br /> <br /> ::::::::I like it, but I don't like the gray backgrounds and the poster-SB/Homestar. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::::Meh, I like it pretty well. Though it is a just teeny bit too, umm, modern (for lack of a better word). But it's still pretty good, says I. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Too modern? That's un-possible. I say we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Concept is good, but Homestar image is too hard to make out. SB is OK, but I wonder if there more text if that would be so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I love the bars, but I'd like the slightly red and blue backgrounds for the tables to return- maybe in less pinky and baby blue colors. The Homestar is obscured as well, but overall, it's very stylish. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 05:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Qermaq: We had the same spacing problems with the old design, depending on the size of your browser window. I didn't attempt to even address that. This design is simply to move away from the pastel colors. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, spacing wasn't a problem here. Just the overall look is less in-your-face than it could be, more subtle than optimal. Mind you, a little red/blue wasn't so bad. A touch of those colors in the background might tie the whole page together better. But the images should be a little more bold. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I have implemented both of those suggestions. Remember, though, that subtle is good... we still have to be able to read text over the images. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::As is, the background might be a little '''too''' bold. Is there a middle ground? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I went back to the gray on the left. The red was just a little much and made Homestar look kinda weird, and if we go to a lighter red then we're right back to pink. I think the gray helps him stand out a little, and I really like the blue on the right and how Strong Bad looks against it. I also reduced the size of the characters to match what we had before. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::I love it! Do you think we should change the [[HRWiki:The Stick]] background as well? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 13:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :More of an artistic comment than a technical one, but I have a problem with the contrast of the main page style with the rest of the style. Basically, the reason that I liked the old style was that it's cartoony and soft-colors blended well with the rest of the site's design. I think that if the main page were just viewed alone, it would look very good. However, if we want to continue with a &quot;modern metal&quot; style, I think that we'd need a new background and a logo redesign, because the rest of the site is still very cartoony looking. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 14:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree about the contrast. The two color bars seem really &quot;in your face.&quot; Sure, it's cool to use gradients once in awhile, but these particular ones are very sharp colors that just jump out at you in an unwarranted sort of way. Maybe fade them a little bit. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 14:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:46:06 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Soapergem <p>Soapergem:&#32;age update</p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#009000|mainbkgd=#BEE4BE|codebkgd=#009000|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;ADM&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=&lt;s&gt;SYS&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is not a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]''' (nor has ever been one).}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=W|msg=This user is on [[Wikipedia:User:Soapergem|Wikipedia]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#6EF7A7|mainbkgd=#C5FCDC|codebkgd=#6EF7A7|codecolor=#000000|code=en-&amp;infin;|msg=This user contributes with an [[Wikipedia:Omniscience|infinite knowledge]] of [[Wikipedia:English language|English]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=OLD|msg=This user is '''21 years old'''.&lt;!-- bday: 5/22/1985 --&gt;}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=PHP|msg=This [http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_3656619.html user] speaks '''PHP''' almost more fluently than English.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#cccccc|mainbkgd=#ffffff|codebkgd=#cccccc|codecolor=#000000|code=ICO|msg=This user enjoys littering his user page with 16×16px icons.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#CC0000|mainbkgd=#FF9300|codebkgd=#CC0000|codecolor=#000000|code=&lt;s&gt;FIRE&lt;/s&gt;|msg=This user is [[kids' book|not on fire]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#ADD8E6|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#E0FFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#A9A9A9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#D19275|mainbkgd=#FFE4C4|codebkgd=#CD853F|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=PQ|msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:the-cheat-full.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_the_cheat|Red The Cheat T-shirt]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#66CCCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:dvd3discset.gif|43px]]|msg=This user owns the first three '''[[strongbad_email.exe|strongbad_email.exe discs]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Figurinescommandos.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|Cheat Commandos figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#9999FF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:mini-freebie coaster.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#freebie_mini|Coaster]]'''.}}<br /> |}<br /> {|<br /> |My name is '''Gordon''', I go by the handle &quot;SoaperGEM&quot; (GEM being my initials). I am an undergraduate at the [[Wikipedia:University of Wisconsin|University of Wisconsin]] studying [[Wikipedia:Mathematics|Mathematics]] [[Wikipedia:Secondary education|Education]]. I'm also an unofficial music minor as well as an unofficial computer science minor (unofficial because UW doesn't offer minors in these fields, but I have met the requirements of what would probably be equivalent).<br /> <br /> == Logo ==<br /> I put off studying for a midterm in Math 371 to create a (pseudo)logo for this wiki based off the same style that [[Wikipedia:User:Nohat|David Friedland]] employed in his logo for Wikipedia.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestar Runner Wiki|center]]<br /> <br /> <br /> Here are some other logo ideas I came up, in full-size. The Wikipedia-style one (shown above) is my personal favorite, simply because it's more aesthetically appealing than any of the others.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5936/icowikipedia1pv.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2562/wiki6mc.png Wikipedia-style]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9321/meta42ie.png Wikimedia-style v.3]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5568/meta11cc.png Wikimedia-style v.2]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9344/icowikimedia2aa.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5633/meta27jd.png Wikimedia-style v.1]<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8683/icowikicommons6ly.png]&lt;/span&gt; [http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1200/sbcommons3pt.png Wikimedia Commons-style]<br /> I've got experience doing that sort of thing before since I am an administrator on a [http://uwanime.ho8.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page different wiki]. Want this to appear as the logo while you're logged in? You can! Just edit your own monobook.css file and copy the contents of mine.<br /> :&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Soapergem/monobook.css http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9551/document2tc.png]&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Soapergem/monobook.css|monobook.css]]<br /> <br /> {{User:Soapergem/sig}}<br /> <br /> == http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7475/cc9vu.gif Legal Notice ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Please see [[User:Soapergem/Legal|this page]] for the legal status of the logo.<br /> <br /> == http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3028/link5hc.png Fun Links ==<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6750/music8zh.gif [http://www.well.com/user/bryan/waltz.gif Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz]<br /> :http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3979/potion7hn.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-753604276926261584&amp;q=potion Final Fantasy XII Potion Commercial]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/389/sushi7ql.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946101556303618610&amp;q=sushi The Japanese Tradition: Sushi]<br /> :http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3841/video7gl.gif [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4577592656995104897&amp;q=saikano Live-action Saikano Trailer]<br /> :http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2852/search8pj.gif [http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html Regular Expressions Tutorial]<br /> |}<br /> == http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7237/rotate4wl.gif We've got a spinner ==<br /> [[Image:Spinner.gif]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6388/ascii3cx.gif ASCII Art ==<br /> http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/redirect.png Moved to [[User:Soapergem/ASCII Art]].<br /> __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__</div> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 04:08:55 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:2006_Spring_Fundraising_Drive <p>Soapergem:&#32;Inaccuracies</p> <hr /> <div>== Donation to tumor research ==<br /> <br /> I strongly disagree with the idea that we should donate a portion of the proceeds to tumor research. Our [[HRWiki:Donations|donations page]] says:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;All donations will be used strictly for hosting the site and keeping the domain registered.&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> If people want to send money, they can, just not through us. I do not think we should make any mention of the tumor research fund here. We are a knowledge base about Homestar Runner, not a vehicle for donating funds to tumor research. If people want to donate to tumor research, they can, but not through us. We link to the obit that mentions the fund in the [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]] article, I do not think we should link to the tumor research fund. Lastly, this whole thing could come across as if we were trying to garner funds by donating a portion of the proceeds to a cause close to [[The Brothers Chaps]]' heart, which is definitely in bad taste.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, I feel dumb. I guess I hadn't considered the implications of that idea. I was really only trying to do something nice, but you're absolutely right about how it would be perceived. I certainly wouldn't want to use the tumor foundation to increase donations here. If people want to donate to the tumor foundation they should donate there, and if people want to donate to the wiki they should donate to the wiki. It should be that simple. &amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I wonder... ==<br /> If we could do advertising and selling products here, would we do it? I always wondered whether or not we'd follow in the noble footsteps of the non-advertising TBC.... &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think this was brought up before... I think the main problem with it is that this is a non-commercial site, all about someone else's creation. It'd be kinda like using the Brothers Chaps' characters to sell things, which would be wrong. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Actually, I think he refers to if it ''wasn't'' wrong or illegal or otherwise violating free-use. To which neither of us could really answer. &amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Yeah, I'll leave this question to JoeyDay. &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::''If it were legal'', I'd still think twice before allowing ads to be shown on the wiki. I value TBC's willingness to take the high road and remain ad free and I applaud their success at crafting such a high-quality merchandise business. ''If it were legal'', perhaps we'd sell t-shirts or copies of our knowledge-base on CD (or how 'bout Kick the Tom plush dolls?). Ultimately, the decision would be up to the community, and, without really considering it and attempting to reach community consensus, it's hard to say which direction it would go. &amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:59, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::If it were legal, I'd be all about making a &quot;Learn German with Heimi&quot; DVD for us to sell. :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I think if it's unrelated to the wiki, you can do that independently ;). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::What about selling a few o' dems &quot;Super Fun Mecha Video Game Joystick Game Player Player&quot; things?--{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 00:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Well, I'd definitely pay for a Tosatpaint or TELL WHAT U THINK! shirt. --{{User:JelloB/sig}} 02:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Just a suggestion: The wiki could open a [http://www.cafepress.com Cafe Press] shop and sell T-shirts to raise additional funds. Just a suggestion. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 20:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> No matter what kind of product it is (a t-shirt, a cd of the knowledge base, etc.) it's impossible to not mention homestarrunner.com, which means that if that product is sold, the wiki benefits financially from the existence and popularity of TBC's creations. So, unfortunately, I don't think it would be ethical to sell stuff. TBC are already very gracious in permitting us to gratuitously copy material from their website and put it on ours, so I'd feel bad making money off of their work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :But if all profits go to this wiki, then we aren't really making any more money off of it than these donations are. And Wikipedia's doing it... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It may be a gray area, but in principle, if somebody buys a HRWiki t-shirt, that's money that they could spent on a homestarrunner.com t-shirt (and they wouldn't have bought the HRWiki t-shirt if they didn't like Homestar Runner). That's an example of my line of thinking... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: Not necessarily (the fact that the shirt must mention homestar runner). Suppose we made a shirt referencing the wiki. For example, a shirt that on front had one of the &quot;hello my name is&quot; tags, and the place where the name goes has &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; written in it instead. Then on the back it just said &quot;www.hrwiki.org&quot;. Also, not necessarily (the fact that buying a wiki shirt is replacing the purchase of a homestarrunner.com shirt). For example, They Might Be Giants wouldn't tell TBC to stop selling &quot;Strong Bad Sings&quot;, because if somebody would buy that instead of a TMBG CD. I think that it's not an &quot;either or&quot; situation, it's a &quot;both and&quot; situation. -[[User:AtionSong|&lt;font face=&quot;BankGothic Md BT&quot;&gt;AtionSong&lt;/font&gt;]] 14:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Heh, I won't mind a &quot;I just got STUFF'd and declined&quot; T-shirt... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:40, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Ha ha ha! &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br /> ::::::Still, if we ever did anything like this (I'm assuming at this point the discussion is still hypothetical), JoeyDay should get some kind of okay from TBC. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Of course....But I have been thinking of a &quot;This User Just Got STUFF'd&quot; shirt.... {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 15:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Inaccuracies ==<br /> <br /> So if you guys only raised $861...why has the pledge-o-meter been at 97.5% for awhile now? Should be at 86.1%.</div> Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:07:19 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:2006_Spring_Fundraising_Drive http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says ''&quot;If you intend...&quot;'' Keyword '''IF'''. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)</div> Mon, 22 May 2006 03:47:39 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;+sig; i always forget that</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says &quot;If you intend...&quot; --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 03:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)</div> Mon, 22 May 2006 03:46:44 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page <p>Soapergem:&#32;</p> <hr /> <div>{{Main Page Talk}}<br /> <br /> == Kind of interesting ==<br /> <br /> if only because we're explicitly mentioned. [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=251&amp;topic=27885046] I've saved a screenshot of it if anybody wants to see it after they purge it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == All Articles Page ==<br /> <br /> For the first time, I clicked on the [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page, and the text that was displayed was<br /> &lt;table style='background: inherit;'&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|$11.01]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/$11.01|Keytar]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Kick The Can]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Kick The Can|Strongbadia]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/Strongbadia's Seven Elemental Spirits|pom pom]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<br /> &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|pom pom (email)]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)| to ]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;[[Special:Allpages/pom pom (email)|your friends]]&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br /> <br /> I stared at the page for a few minutes, certain that this seemingly random collection of words was vandalism before I realized that they were names of mostly obscure articles.<br /> <br /> So, I'm wondering if there's a better way to present this page. I understand that the object of the page is to divide up the articles into sections of the alphabet, but what if the page instead displayed (for example)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ to K<br /> L to R<br /> S to o<br /> p to y<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> (with appropriate links, of course)<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking that if this page was confusing to me, it must be very confusing for newcomers to the Wiki. The above reformatting (or something like it) would make a lot more sense to the uninitiated, I think. Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I like the idea, though maybe it could say &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, to be more accurate. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> :It can't hurt to suggest that to the developers as an enhancement for future versions: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh&amp;mdash;is this an immutable part of the software? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, ''nothing's'' immutable. In fact, anyone who wants to can suggest changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_5/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php?view=markup the source file]. I personally, however, don't see this as a pressing need at this time. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I see; thanks for your reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> If it's worth anything, that confused me as well, the first time I looked at it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The thing is, that page is automagically generated. It just happened, that, at the time, [[Keytar]] was the 1000th page, alphabetically (I think it's paged by the 1000, anyway... rough count gives around that number). Sure, it's possible to make it &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, etc, but look at it, it'd need to make it something like &quot;$ to Ki&quot;, &quot;Ki to Strongbadia&quot;, &quot;Strongbadia's to pom pom&quot;, &quot;pom pom ( to z&quot; or something like that, just because of how it happened to split that time &amp;ndash; not really any help at all. What you'd have to do is get rid of the fixed-size pages, and just page by the first letter of the name or something similar, but good luck getting someone to actually bother to code it &amp;ndash; on a large wiki like Wikipedia that would result in ''massive'' pages (have you seen [[Wikipedia:Special:Allpages]]?) so the people who code MediaWiki are unlikely to want to code this as standard. We could probably add it ourselves separately, but (1) we have stopped making any changes until we get 1.6 working and (B) even after that, as It's dot com said, it's not really a pressing need &amp;ndash; even if it's a little confusing at first it shouldn't take too long to work out, and [[Special:Allpages]] isn't a particularly useful page here anyway (in my opinion). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm not particularly attached to having that [[Special:Allpages|articles]] link on the Main Page. Joey &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=39356&amp;oldid=39355 added it]&lt;/span&gt; a while back, and seeing as that page isn't particularly useful to first-timers or regular users in its present unmodified state, I move that we remove it.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page views ==<br /> Deleting and then restoring pages seems to remove their page views... is there any way to fix that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You mean like on [[technology]], the &quot;This page has been accessed 7 times&quot; thing? I don't know of anything, and I don't really think it's ''that'' important... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For one, you'd have to know what the number was before it was deleted in order to be able to reset it. The original figure is gone from the database. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::A [http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2sCksLIc8rEJ:www.hrwiki.org/index.php/technology+technology+hrwiki&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a google cache I found] dated May 5, 2006 06:41:10 GMT gives &quot;This page has been accessed 38,417 times.&quot;&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Episode V: The DOS strikes back! ==<br /> About an hour ago, I had huge problems going to both here and the Fanstuff wiki. Nothing would load. Was that just my broken compy, or did it happen to the rest of you? &amp;mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :You're not alone. It was here too. Were we upgrading or anything? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> ::Routine maintenance.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anyone here a member of wikipedia as well? ==<br /> <br /> If yes, go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13, and scroll down to the userbox &quot;THIS USER'S HEAD ASPLODE.&quot; Some guy, is planning to delete it, so if you can, go there and say, keep.<br /> <br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13#Template:User asplode|This vote]]? The debate for that template has already finished, and the result was keep.&amp;nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's too bad there's not a picture of [[Vector Strong Bad]] in that userbox. &amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Replacing the logo==<br /> Are we replacing the logo? Because here on [[User:Soapergem/Legal|Legal]] it says that we are. Is this true?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No it doesn't. Read closer. It says &quot;If you intend...&quot;</div> Mon, 22 May 2006 03:46:14 GMT Soapergem http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page