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User:Sompm

Sompm — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:37:57 GMT

Sompm:

hello everybloody. welcome to my page. I don't know why you're here, but who cares. let me tell you a little bit about mysself.

what I am not:
*female
*(never mind)
*a non-human lifeform
*Thy physical embodiment of The Zombie Buddha (depending on your denomination)
*potatoes...

where I am not:
*Washington DC
*the moon
*outside the USA

who I am not:
*a 3 year old
*kenny chesney

when I am not:
*anytime other than right now.

and I don't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 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<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Lolwhut!</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Why are you answering this email? 
it's total nonsense! 
there's no reason for you to be answering it! 
unless I hacked your computer. 
mwehehe. 
I probably did. 
sompm</blockquote>

User:Sompm

Sompm — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:37:08 GMT

Sompm:

hello everybloody. welcome to my page. I don't know why you're here, but who cares. let me tell you a little bit about mysself.

what I am not:
*female
*(never mind)
*a non-human lifeform
*Thy physical embodiment of The Zombie Buddha (depending on your denomination)
*potatoes...

where I am not:
*Washington DC
*the moon
*outside the USA

who I am not:
*a 3 year old
*kenny chesney

when I am not:
*anytime other than right now.

and I don't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 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<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: stupid email!</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Why are you answering this email? 
it's total nonsense! 
there's no reason for you to be answering it! 
unless I hacked your computer. 
mwehehe. 
haxxored! 
sompm</blockquote>

Talk:Superbowl Dealie

Sompm — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:05:53 GMT

Sompm:

==Remember When?==
Can anyone remember when this toon was put up? I think it deserves to be listed in the "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" section of the [[Strong Bad Email]]s page, but I want to make sure it's put in the proper chronological order. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:13, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Possible goof...but probabaly not==
was strong bad's eyes being half shut on purpose...or was this a mistake. the only reason i can see them doing this was to show that it was late at night (as the superbowl is)...which is probably the reason.

Very, very, very likely on purpose. I think he was squinting in mild exasperation at Strong Mad. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:11, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Different title?==
Is it just me, or did the title of this used to be "Football makes a good excuse" when it was new? As in, "Football makes a good excuse
for why the Strong Bad E-mail was late for this week?" I'm SURE that this phrase was on the web site somewhere, I just can't remember where.
Am I thinking of another cartoon? Was that the phrase in the green "what's new" bubble the week this came out? Someone with a good memory help
me out here. --[[User:TobyTheRobot|TobyTheRobot]]
:Check out the description on [[Toons#Holiday_Toons|this]] page. You are right. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== strong mad goof? ==

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes at the beginning of the toon, Strong Mad is missing his legs and arms for about half a second?[[User:That freakin marshmallow|That freakin marshmallow]] 06:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)that_freakin_marshmallow
:I haven't seen this. Smells like "Flash artifact" to me. From the loading-ness. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Yeah, yeah, for me, the first time I ever watched it, it was like, Strong Mad, in a red room, with no couch or TV, and no face or left arm, then the sofa appeared and the tv and couch appeared at the same time. It's one of those "first time" things, because the second time I watched it, It loaded perfectly with no glitches (although it has no loading screen...for some reason...) --[[File:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|18px]] [[User:Bubz|Bubz]] [[File:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|18px]] 22:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== The only one? ==

The article said:
:This is the only toon on the site that does not have a loading screen.
I'm pretty sure some Tandy 400-era [[Strong Bad Email]]s lack a loading screen, but are these 'toons? I'm guessing they are, so I'll ''be italic.'' Er, I mean, '''be bold.''' {{User:Mee/sig}} 14:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

== which the crap email is delayed? ==

I notice, on this page, an extreme lack of me knowing which email was delayed, save looking for which email had a date directly after this. I'll find and attempt to put it on there,but if somebody can fix this before me, great! [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 02:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
: okay, the date of this is 1/29/03, and the nearest email, Huttah!, is dated 1/28/03. explanation pershap? was this a week in advance, or an explanation of a previous lateness? OR, heaven forbid, WE SCREWED UP! gasp! halp? [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 03:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:The Interview

Sompm — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:04:41 GMT

Sompm:

== Tweened?? ==

"Mike doesn't usually put anyone's walking sequence in movie clips so that they can be tweened."

What the heck does that mean? Can someone who does know reword that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

:In Flash animation, [[Wikipedia:tweening|tweening]] (short for in-betweening) is the process of only animating the major (key) frames, and having the rest be generated by the software. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 18:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

::I read the Wikipedia article, but I still have no idea what that sentence is supposed to mean. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 19:29, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

::: a common practice for (lazy) flash animators is to make a movie clip (an object that has animation or motion in it, but can still be moved around and animated with) of a character walking (or some other repetitive action), so they can animate the character walking once and then just have it move across the screen so it *looks* like the animator took the time to animate the character walking. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 20:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

==Un question?==
Maybe this is a sign that I've got too much time on my hands... but I was wondering: in Strong Sad's line ''En garde?'', should we actually include an inverted question mark at the beginning (''¿En garde?'')? Since technically the whole sentence is French. But one could argue that it's adopted enough as part of our vocabulary to use English punctuation. Whadayathink? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:French doesn't use the inverted question mark. Only [[Wikipedia:Question_mark#Variants in other languages and in history|Spanish]]. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 01:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::¿Verdad? Oops. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

==mirror==
Someone should make a mirrior for the unfinished version. I really wanted to see it but it wasnt working. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 23:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== metro.pop? ==

What the heck does that mean? "Metro.pop Interview" is the name of the unfinished version (as listed on [[Secret Pages]]) What does that mean?--{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== Date Conspiracy ==

This article says this came out in 2002, but [[All Toons]] says it came out June 4, 2001 or earlier (although that is mixed in with other 2002 dates). What's going on here? Surely there is a conspiracy at work. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... Further interestingly, The Interview is not listed on any of the H*R.com updates pages. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The Interview

Sompm — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:04:16 GMT

Sompm:

== Tweened?? ==

"Mike doesn't usually put anyone's walking sequence in movie clips so that they can be tweened."

What the heck does that mean? Can someone who does know reword that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

:In Flash animation, [[Wikipedia:tweening|tweening]] (short for in-betweening) is the process of only animating the major (key) frames, and having the rest be generated by the software. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 18:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

::I read the Wikipedia article, but I still have no idea what that sentence is supposed to mean. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 19:29, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

::: a common practice for (lazy) flash animators is to make a movie clip (an object that has animation or motion in it, but can still be moved around and animated with) of a character walking (or some other repetitive action), so they can animate the character walking once and then just have it move across the screen so it *looks* like the animator took the time to animate the character walking.
==Un question?==
Maybe this is a sign that I've got too much time on my hands... but I was wondering: in Strong Sad's line ''En garde?'', should we actually include an inverted question mark at the beginning (''¿En garde?'')? Since technically the whole sentence is French. But one could argue that it's adopted enough as part of our vocabulary to use English punctuation. Whadayathink? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:French doesn't use the inverted question mark. Only [[Wikipedia:Question_mark#Variants in other languages and in history|Spanish]]. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 01:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::¿Verdad? Oops. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

==mirror==
Someone should make a mirrior for the unfinished version. I really wanted to see it but it wasnt working. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 23:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== metro.pop? ==

What the heck does that mean? "Metro.pop Interview" is the name of the unfinished version (as listed on [[Secret Pages]]) What does that mean?--{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== Date Conspiracy ==

This article says this came out in 2002, but [[All Toons]] says it came out June 4, 2001 or earlier (although that is mixed in with other 2002 dates). What's going on here? Surely there is a conspiracy at work. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... Further interestingly, The Interview is not listed on any of the H*R.com updates pages. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Sompm

Sompm — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:07:07 GMT

Sompm:

hello everybloody. welcome to my page. I don't know why you're here, but who cares. let me tell you a little bit about mysself.

what I am not:
*a girl
*an xbox 360 owner
*a jerk who flips people off all the time
*a drug addict or alchoholic of any kind
*potatoes...

where I am not:
*Washington DC
*the moon
*outside the USA

who I am not:
*a 3 year old
*kenny chesney

when I am not:
*anytime other than right now.

and I don't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 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<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: stupid email!</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Why are you answering this email? 
it's total nonsense! 
there's no reason for you to be answering it! 
unless I hacked your computer. 
mwehehe. 
haxxored! 
sompm</blockquote>

Talk:Rap Song

Sompm — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:47:03 GMT

Sompm: /* New Math */

==Coach Z Doesn't Sound Like Himself==
Hey!!! did any of you notice that coach z doesnt sound like himself until the rap{{unsigned|67.170.119.144|0:45:18, 2007-11-13}}

:That because it was a powered by the cheat cartoon.{{unsigned|68.210.53.58|0:53:04, 2007-11-12}}
:The Cheat is doing the voices.{{unsigned|75.72.21.221|0:53:29, 2007-11-12}}
:That would be great... I mean [[Mike]]. He tends to do that for those [[Powered by The Cheat]] thingies. But perhaps it should be mentioned in the transcript when it's a PBTC voice and when it's Coach Z's voice. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::How should it be noted, however? It doesn't look like there is any precedent for dialog in a PBTC voice and then a musical piece with the regular voice. Should {PBTC} noted in front of each line, or note in the description? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd support putting "Powered by the Cheat" or something tothat effect in front of everyone's name until the song starts. The Cheat made an intro on his own, and then made a video to a previously recorded R-A-P S-O-N-G. That's my view of it, at least. [[User:132.161.138.10|132.161.138.10]] 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC) (I used to have an accoun, but I guess if you use it too infrequently it's DELETED? That's happened to me twice.)

==Dr. Dre Reference==
I'm glad to see the Dr. Dre "reference" was deleted. I'm sorry I spent the time adding links. Besides that it's a rap song (and rap songs are all alike, right?) I don't see the similarity. And I'm certainly not comfortable with the links because of the profanity in the Wikipedia articles. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm unfamiliar with the song, so I have no clue if there's any hidden references to it in this toon. I removed it because... well, I think facts that say "there is a reference to whatever" without saying what, exactly, the reference *is*, are essentially useless. They more or less expect you to *know*, which not everyone does. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Incorrect reference for Mix Tape==
I think the fun fact is grabbing the wrong part of the Wikipedia entry for "mix tape." This 'toon is definitely referring to the Hip Hop definition of mix tape, more like a demo than a home-made sample of other people's tracks.

From wikipedia:
"Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album (such as housing "Demo" versions of tracks, or simply un-mastered/un-mixed versions of the tracks), and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often arranged in a specific flowing fashion, much like retail albums are."
--[[User:24.188.228.33|24.188.228.33]] 05:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==New Math==

<blockquote>
*"My name is [[Tenerence Love]]" actually equals <math>Tenerence Love + 1</math> by order of operations, not <math>Tenerence Love remainder 3</math> as stated.
**Additionally, if the equation is interpreted as <math>(My name is Tenerence Love + My Name is Tenerence Love) / My name is Tenerence Love </math>, it should equal two, by factoring.
</blockquote>

...so, we're debating the mathematical formula behind what're basically nonsensical lyrics? As I said in the edit summary when I removed these, this seems to be talk page material and nothing more. Anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing. They're FUN facts, people. Who honestly cares whether or not it would be remainder three or the square root of piemonade???? I vote DELORTED!!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 05:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Edit: oh, it already was delorted. Too little too late.
Keep it civil. I actually found this very interesting and worked it out for myself. ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' = –1 if you perform the addition before the division; otherwise it is undefined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not saying it's not *true* or anything... I think it's great talk page material, but trying to analyze a nonsensical "math problem" in a comical rap song seems... a bit odd, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess I hear the maths differently to you guys... I hear it as (abbreviating ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' as <math>x</math> for readability): <math>\frac{x+x}x = x\mbox{ r}3</math>, that is: <math>\frac{x+x}x = x + \frac 3 x</math> which solves to <math>x=1 \plusmn \sqrt 2 i\,</math>. Of course, this has problems, as the "remainder" thingy usually only makes sense when you're dealing with integers, not complex numbers... but it's a reasonable extension. Anyways, the order-of-operations reading, <math>x+\frac x x=x\mbox{ r}3</math>, makes even less sense, since the division has to be the last step for the remainder thing to make sense. Also, I'm with YK here... precedent is that pointless mathematical overanalysis, however fun, belongs on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Glad to see I'm not the only one who heard that and thought of a quadratic equation. I'm tempted to claim this is an IR to Virus ("Did the quadratic formula explode?" -SB) but that's... um... unlikely. At best. It could also be a nod to the old Bogus Mathematical Theorems, but I doubt that as well. Anyway, for the record, even though it makes no sense to state the equation with a remainder using the order of operations reading, you can still solve it for ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove''. It's 3. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
To anyone who wants this in the article: Y'all buscuitheads, you remind me of ''[[Wikipedia:A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]'' — "finding" meaning in the meaningless. Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up! (P.S. I <s>hated</s> strongly disliked ''A Beautiful Mind''.) Whew, I get ornery at 1:00 in the morning! I do have to say, "the square root of piemonade" made me laugh. Thanks for that, Nevadie. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just a parody of the fact that he said "plus" in the second line, which can mean adding in the grammatical sense or in the mathematical sense. It's called poetic license. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Awexome. Poetic license and all that. Oh, and dot com, I wasn't being uncivil. Only sarcastic.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"Finding meaning in the meaningless"? Isn't that the whole point of this wiki? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:The equation is impossible, given the "remainder 3" part that you all seem to be ignoring, order of operations, there's no way to have a remainder three in such a case, and order given, there's no remainder at all. This is not a real equation, it's impossible to solve, and we shouldn't even try. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think the problem here is people are assuming that the mathematical operations being used are defined in the "normal" way, and that phrases such as "My name is Tenerence Love" can be treated as a variable, or a value in some set of numbers. While I think [[TBC]] were just being silly, if anyone were to seriously attempt to analyze these quasi-mathematical statements it'd probably be wiser to interpret them using some other definition for the operations. 1+1 does not always equal 2. Addition with real numbers is defined differently than it is for matrices, or in an abelian group defined over an elliptic curve. [[Wikipedia:Abstract_algebra]] is a good place to start if you really want to damage your ability to see mathematics the same way ever again. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 00:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::hmm... but there isn't really such a thing as dividing matricies. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not hor remainders workI was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not how remainders work [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

I ran it by my highshool math teacher mother, and we came up with this: according to the order of oprations, we divide x by x first, to get one, so it's x+1 = xR3, and because the fraction of the division is the remainder over the denominator so it's x+1=x+3/x. if x is 3, the x+1=x+1.
in short, "my name is tenerence love" is 3. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 02:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Anony ties lowercase i's in: [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 02:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
"*Solving (Tenerence Love + Tenerence Love)/Tenerence Love = Tenerence Love remainder 3 yields Tenerence Love = 1+i√2 or 1-i√2. This is another instance of [[lowercase i's]]."

but didn't he say "equals tenayeaaarence love!"?? so it's a whole different integer! x+x/x='''Y'''R3! no problems! [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

== warsh ==

I'm not sure if anyone cares, and I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article anywhere, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in some areas of Eastern Canada, especially [[wikipedia:Prince Edward Island|PEI]], pronouncing the word "wash" as "warsh" is actually part of a regional accent. I used to live in that region, and almost nobody my age ever said it like that, but a lot of us had parents who did. Also common around there is saying "slippy" instead of "slippery", and saying the word "barrel" in such a way that it sort of rhymes with "Carl". - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:Warsh is also a common pronunciation of wash in Kentucky and some areas further south. Unusual that it makes the long leap up to Canada and skips over everything in between. [[User:Maktaka|Maktaka]] 09:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::As interesting as that is, I don't think it has anything to do with Coach Z's pronounciation of the word. He simply pronounces all words like that, and the majority of them do not sound similar to any other accent in any region. (For example, Port = Putt. What?) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 10:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Anthropomorphic Egg==
When I saw the egg chasing after Peacy P's limo/waffle house, my first thought was that it was supposed to be one of the villains from Data East's [[Wikipedia:Burgertime|Burgertime]], but a quick check of the box art shows that the egg didn't wear a domino mask as portrayed here. Is this a ''Burgertime'' reference despite the cosmetic difference, or is the significance of the egg relevant to something else?
:Dude, it's breakfast, and it's walking. Some things in these cartoons are just silly for the sake of silly, not everything is a reference to something and/or has a hidden meaning. - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Nate Dogg==

I believe that Tenerence Love is 'sposed to sound like Nate Dogg. And also "It don't stop" is something that alot of rappers (especially Snoop Dogg) says. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Tenerence Love wearing a donut reminded me of Luther Vandross and his infamous diet, but I don't necessarily think that's a reference, either. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rap Song Visuals ==

Someone needs to write a separate article for the video's visuals (I don't know if I have time to do it) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Fast Food Freestyle==
This supposed RWR ("Peacey P places an order for food much like in the video "Fast Food Freestyle" on Youtube.") needs some discussing, methinks. Pretty funny video, and similar, but sometimes there's an overlap in ideas that TBC may think are original but that have been done before. Is it a reference? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd have to say TTATOT. It's just another random thing they do. Ordering breakfast in the middle of a rap song.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Peacey P ==

...is the abbreviation PCP, which can mean a lot of things ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP]), but probably Phencyclidine. This would make it another drug reference. --[[User:91.97.14.14|91.97.14.14]] 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:See his character page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Coach Z's accessories==
If you may notice, Coach Z's hat and Z change during the toon. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's because The <strike>Chort</strike> Cheat isn't a very good Flash animator. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==I don't even know who's song this is==

Is that part a reference to the reputation of rap songs sampling other songs without permission? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I took it as him admitting that he works with so many other rappers that he can't even keep track of whose song he's in at the moment.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 01:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Yes Yes, Yall ==

reference to the Will Smith song? most likely a coincidence, but i immediately thought of the Will Smith song Yes, Yes Yall (i think that's what it's called). whatchyall think? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rap Song

Sompm — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:38:13 GMT

Sompm: /* New Math */

==Coach Z Doesn't Sound Like Himself==
Hey!!! did any of you notice that coach z doesnt sound like himself until the rap{{unsigned|67.170.119.144|0:45:18, 2007-11-13}}

:That because it was a powered by the cheat cartoon.{{unsigned|68.210.53.58|0:53:04, 2007-11-12}}
:The Cheat is doing the voices.{{unsigned|75.72.21.221|0:53:29, 2007-11-12}}
:That would be great... I mean [[Mike]]. He tends to do that for those [[Powered by The Cheat]] thingies. But perhaps it should be mentioned in the transcript when it's a PBTC voice and when it's Coach Z's voice. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::How should it be noted, however? It doesn't look like there is any precedent for dialog in a PBTC voice and then a musical piece with the regular voice. Should {PBTC} noted in front of each line, or note in the description? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd support putting "Powered by the Cheat" or something tothat effect in front of everyone's name until the song starts. The Cheat made an intro on his own, and then made a video to a previously recorded R-A-P S-O-N-G. That's my view of it, at least. [[User:132.161.138.10|132.161.138.10]] 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC) (I used to have an accoun, but I guess if you use it too infrequently it's DELETED? That's happened to me twice.)

==Dr. Dre Reference==
I'm glad to see the Dr. Dre "reference" was deleted. I'm sorry I spent the time adding links. Besides that it's a rap song (and rap songs are all alike, right?) I don't see the similarity. And I'm certainly not comfortable with the links because of the profanity in the Wikipedia articles. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm unfamiliar with the song, so I have no clue if there's any hidden references to it in this toon. I removed it because... well, I think facts that say "there is a reference to whatever" without saying what, exactly, the reference *is*, are essentially useless. They more or less expect you to *know*, which not everyone does. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Incorrect reference for Mix Tape==
I think the fun fact is grabbing the wrong part of the Wikipedia entry for "mix tape." This 'toon is definitely referring to the Hip Hop definition of mix tape, more like a demo than a home-made sample of other people's tracks.

From wikipedia:
"Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album (such as housing "Demo" versions of tracks, or simply un-mastered/un-mixed versions of the tracks), and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often arranged in a specific flowing fashion, much like retail albums are."
--[[User:24.188.228.33|24.188.228.33]] 05:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==New Math==

<blockquote>
*"My name is [[Tenerence Love]]" actually equals <math>Tenerence Love + 1</math> by order of operations, not <math>Tenerence Love remainder 3</math> as stated.
**Additionally, if the equation is interpreted as <math>(My name is Tenerence Love + My Name is Tenerence Love) / My name is Tenerence Love </math>, it should equal two, by factoring.
</blockquote>

...so, we're debating the mathematical formula behind what're basically nonsensical lyrics? As I said in the edit summary when I removed these, this seems to be talk page material and nothing more. Anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing. They're FUN facts, people. Who honestly cares whether or not it would be remainder three or the square root of piemonade???? I vote DELORTED!!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 05:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Edit: oh, it already was delorted. Too little too late.
Keep it civil. I actually found this very interesting and worked it out for myself. ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' = –1 if you perform the addition before the division; otherwise it is undefined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not saying it's not *true* or anything... I think it's great talk page material, but trying to analyze a nonsensical "math problem" in a comical rap song seems... a bit odd, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess I hear the maths differently to you guys... I hear it as (abbreviating ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' as <math>x</math> for readability): <math>\frac{x+x}x = x\mbox{ r}3</math>, that is: <math>\frac{x+x}x = x + \frac 3 x</math> which solves to <math>x=1 \plusmn \sqrt 2 i\,</math>. Of course, this has problems, as the "remainder" thingy usually only makes sense when you're dealing with integers, not complex numbers... but it's a reasonable extension. Anyways, the order-of-operations reading, <math>x+\frac x x=x\mbox{ r}3</math>, makes even less sense, since the division has to be the last step for the remainder thing to make sense. Also, I'm with YK here... precedent is that pointless mathematical overanalysis, however fun, belongs on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Glad to see I'm not the only one who heard that and thought of a quadratic equation. I'm tempted to claim this is an IR to Virus ("Did the quadratic formula explode?" -SB) but that's... um... unlikely. At best. It could also be a nod to the old Bogus Mathematical Theorems, but I doubt that as well. Anyway, for the record, even though it makes no sense to state the equation with a remainder using the order of operations reading, you can still solve it for ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove''. It's 3. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
To anyone who wants this in the article: Y'all buscuitheads, you remind me of ''[[Wikipedia:A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]'' — "finding" meaning in the meaningless. Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up! (P.S. I <s>hated</s> strongly disliked ''A Beautiful Mind''.) Whew, I get ornery at 1:00 in the morning! I do have to say, "the square root of piemonade" made me laugh. Thanks for that, Nevadie. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just a parody of the fact that he said "plus" in the second line, which can mean adding in the grammatical sense or in the mathematical sense. It's called poetic license. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Awexome. Poetic license and all that. Oh, and dot com, I wasn't being uncivil. Only sarcastic.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"Finding meaning in the meaningless"? Isn't that the whole point of this wiki? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:The equation is impossible, given the "remainder 3" part that you all seem to be ignoring, order of operations, there's no way to have a remainder three in such a case, and order given, there's no remainder at all. This is not a real equation, it's impossible to solve, and we shouldn't even try. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think the problem here is people are assuming that the mathematical operations being used are defined in the "normal" way, and that phrases such as "My name is Tenerence Love" can be treated as a variable, or a value in some set of numbers. While I think [[TBC]] were just being silly, if anyone were to seriously attempt to analyze these quasi-mathematical statements it'd probably be wiser to interpret them using some other definition for the operations. 1+1 does not always equal 2. Addition with real numbers is defined differently than it is for matrices, or in an abelian group defined over an elliptic curve. [[Wikipedia:Abstract_algebra]] is a good place to start if you really want to damage your ability to see mathematics the same way ever again. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 00:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::hmm... but there isn't really such a thing as dividing matricies. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not hor remainders workI was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not how remainders work [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

I ran it by my highshool math teacher mother, and we came up with this: according to the order of oprations, we divide x by x first, to get one, so it's x+1 = xR3, and because the fraction of the division is the remainder over the denominator so it's x+1=x+3/x. if x is 3, the x+1=x+1.
in short, "my name is tenerence love" is 3. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 02:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== warsh ==

I'm not sure if anyone cares, and I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article anywhere, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in some areas of Eastern Canada, especially [[wikipedia:Prince Edward Island|PEI]], pronouncing the word "wash" as "warsh" is actually part of a regional accent. I used to live in that region, and almost nobody my age ever said it like that, but a lot of us had parents who did. Also common around there is saying "slippy" instead of "slippery", and saying the word "barrel" in such a way that it sort of rhymes with "Carl". - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:Warsh is also a common pronunciation of wash in Kentucky and some areas further south. Unusual that it makes the long leap up to Canada and skips over everything in between. [[User:Maktaka|Maktaka]] 09:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::As interesting as that is, I don't think it has anything to do with Coach Z's pronounciation of the word. He simply pronounces all words like that, and the majority of them do not sound similar to any other accent in any region. (For example, Port = Putt. What?) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 10:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Anthropomorphic Egg==
When I saw the egg chasing after Peacy P's limo/waffle house, my first thought was that it was supposed to be one of the villains from Data East's [[Wikipedia:Burgertime|Burgertime]], but a quick check of the box art shows that the egg didn't wear a domino mask as portrayed here. Is this a ''Burgertime'' reference despite the cosmetic difference, or is the significance of the egg relevant to something else?
:Dude, it's breakfast, and it's walking. Some things in these cartoons are just silly for the sake of silly, not everything is a reference to something and/or has a hidden meaning. - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Nate Dogg==

I believe that Tenerence Love is 'sposed to sound like Nate Dogg. And also "It don't stop" is something that alot of rappers (especially Snoop Dogg) says. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Tenerence Love wearing a donut reminded me of Luther Vandross and his infamous diet, but I don't necessarily think that's a reference, either. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rap Song Visuals ==

Someone needs to write a separate article for the video's visuals (I don't know if I have time to do it) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Fast Food Freestyle==
This supposed RWR ("Peacey P places an order for food much like in the video "Fast Food Freestyle" on Youtube.") needs some discussing, methinks. Pretty funny video, and similar, but sometimes there's an overlap in ideas that TBC may think are original but that have been done before. Is it a reference? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd have to say TTATOT. It's just another random thing they do. Ordering breakfast in the middle of a rap song.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Peacey P ==

...is the abbreviation PCP, which can mean a lot of things ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP]), but probably Phencyclidine. This would make it another drug reference. --[[User:91.97.14.14|91.97.14.14]] 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:See his character page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Coach Z's accessories==
If you may notice, Coach Z's hat and Z change during the toon. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's because The <strike>Chort</strike> Cheat isn't a very good Flash animator. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==I don't even know who's song this is==

Is that part a reference to the reputation of rap songs sampling other songs without permission? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I took it as him admitting that he works with so many other rappers that he can't even keep track of whose song he's in at the moment.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 01:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Yes Yes, Yall ==

reference to the Will Smith song? most likely a coincidence, but i immediately thought of the Will Smith song Yes, Yes Yall (i think that's what it's called). whatchyall think? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rap Song

Sompm — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:07:24 GMT

Sompm: /* New Math */

==Coach Z Doesn't Sound Like Himself==
Hey!!! did any of you notice that coach z doesnt sound like himself until the rap{{unsigned|67.170.119.144|0:45:18, 2007-11-13}}

:That because it was a powered by the cheat cartoon.{{unsigned|68.210.53.58|0:53:04, 2007-11-12}}
:The Cheat is doing the voices.{{unsigned|75.72.21.221|0:53:29, 2007-11-12}}
:That would be great... I mean [[Mike]]. He tends to do that for those [[Powered by The Cheat]] thingies. But perhaps it should be mentioned in the transcript when it's a PBTC voice and when it's Coach Z's voice. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::How should it be noted, however? It doesn't look like there is any precedent for dialog in a PBTC voice and then a musical piece with the regular voice. Should {PBTC} noted in front of each line, or note in the description? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd support putting "Powered by the Cheat" or something tothat effect in front of everyone's name until the song starts. The Cheat made an intro on his own, and then made a video to a previously recorded R-A-P S-O-N-G. That's my view of it, at least. [[User:132.161.138.10|132.161.138.10]] 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC) (I used to have an accoun, but I guess if you use it too infrequently it's DELETED? That's happened to me twice.)

==Dr. Dre Reference==
I'm glad to see the Dr. Dre "reference" was deleted. I'm sorry I spent the time adding links. Besides that it's a rap song (and rap songs are all alike, right?) I don't see the similarity. And I'm certainly not comfortable with the links because of the profanity in the Wikipedia articles. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm unfamiliar with the song, so I have no clue if there's any hidden references to it in this toon. I removed it because... well, I think facts that say "there is a reference to whatever" without saying what, exactly, the reference *is*, are essentially useless. They more or less expect you to *know*, which not everyone does. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Incorrect reference for Mix Tape==
I think the fun fact is grabbing the wrong part of the Wikipedia entry for "mix tape." This 'toon is definitely referring to the Hip Hop definition of mix tape, more like a demo than a home-made sample of other people's tracks.

From wikipedia:
"Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album (such as housing "Demo" versions of tracks, or simply un-mastered/un-mixed versions of the tracks), and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often arranged in a specific flowing fashion, much like retail albums are."
--[[User:24.188.228.33|24.188.228.33]] 05:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==New Math==

<blockquote>
*"My name is [[Tenerence Love]]" actually equals <math>Tenerence Love + 1</math> by order of operations, not <math>Tenerence Love remainder 3</math> as stated.
**Additionally, if the equation is interpreted as <math>(My name is Tenerence Love + My Name is Tenerence Love) / My name is Tenerence Love </math>, it should equal two, by factoring.
</blockquote>

...so, we're debating the mathematical formula behind what're basically nonsensical lyrics? As I said in the edit summary when I removed these, this seems to be talk page material and nothing more. Anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing. They're FUN facts, people. Who honestly cares whether or not it would be remainder three or the square root of piemonade???? I vote DELORTED!!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 05:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Edit: oh, it already was delorted. Too little too late.
Keep it civil. I actually found this very interesting and worked it out for myself. ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' = –1 if you perform the addition before the division; otherwise it is undefined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not saying it's not *true* or anything... I think it's great talk page material, but trying to analyze a nonsensical "math problem" in a comical rap song seems... a bit odd, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess I hear the maths differently to you guys... I hear it as (abbreviating ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' as <math>x</math> for readability): <math>\frac{x+x}x = x\mbox{ r}3</math>, that is: <math>\frac{x+x}x = x + \frac 3 x</math> which solves to <math>x=1 \plusmn \sqrt 2 i\,</math>. Of course, this has problems, as the "remainder" thingy usually only makes sense when you're dealing with integers, not complex numbers... but it's a reasonable extension. Anyways, the order-of-operations reading, <math>x+\frac x x=x\mbox{ r}3</math>, makes even less sense, since the division has to be the last step for the remainder thing to make sense. Also, I'm with YK here... precedent is that pointless mathematical overanalysis, however fun, belongs on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Glad to see I'm not the only one who heard that and thought of a quadratic equation. I'm tempted to claim this is an IR to Virus ("Did the quadratic formula explode?" -SB) but that's... um... unlikely. At best. It could also be a nod to the old Bogus Mathematical Theorems, but I doubt that as well. Anyway, for the record, even though it makes no sense to state the equation with a remainder using the order of operations reading, you can still solve it for ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove''. It's 3. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
To anyone who wants this in the article: Y'all buscuitheads, you remind me of ''[[Wikipedia:A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]'' — "finding" meaning in the meaningless. Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up! (P.S. I <s>hated</s> strongly disliked ''A Beautiful Mind''.) Whew, I get ornery at 1:00 in the morning! I do have to say, "the square root of piemonade" made me laugh. Thanks for that, Nevadie. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just a parody of the fact that he said "plus" in the second line, which can mean adding in the grammatical sense or in the mathematical sense. It's called poetic license. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Awexome. Poetic license and all that. Oh, and dot com, I wasn't being uncivil. Only sarcastic.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"Finding meaning in the meaningless"? Isn't that the whole point of this wiki? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:The equation is impossible, given the "remainder 3" part that you all seem to be ignoring, order of operations, there's no way to have a remainder three in such a case, and order given, there's no remainder at all. This is not a real equation, it's impossible to solve, and we shouldn't even try. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think the problem here is people are assuming that the mathematical operations being used are defined in the "normal" way, and that phrases such as "My name is Tenerence Love" can be treated as a variable, or a value in some set of numbers. While I think [[TBC]] were just being silly, if anyone were to seriously attempt to analyze these quasi-mathematical statements it'd probably be wiser to interpret them using some other definition for the operations. 1+1 does not always equal 2. Addition with real numbers is defined differently than it is for matrices, or in an abelian group defined over an elliptic curve. [[Wikipedia:Abstract_algebra]] is a good place to start if you really want to damage your ability to see mathematics the same way ever again. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 00:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::hmm... but there isn't really such a thing as dividing matricies. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not hor remainders work

== warsh ==

I'm not sure if anyone cares, and I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article anywhere, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in some areas of Eastern Canada, especially [[wikipedia:Prince Edward Island|PEI]], pronouncing the word "wash" as "warsh" is actually part of a regional accent. I used to live in that region, and almost nobody my age ever said it like that, but a lot of us had parents who did. Also common around there is saying "slippy" instead of "slippery", and saying the word "barrel" in such a way that it sort of rhymes with "Carl". - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:Warsh is also a common pronunciation of wash in Kentucky and some areas further south. Unusual that it makes the long leap up to Canada and skips over everything in between. [[User:Maktaka|Maktaka]] 09:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::As interesting as that is, I don't think it has anything to do with Coach Z's pronounciation of the word. He simply pronounces all words like that, and the majority of them do not sound similar to any other accent in any region. (For example, Port = Putt. What?) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 10:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Anthropomorphic Egg==
When I saw the egg chasing after Peacy P's limo/waffle house, my first thought was that it was supposed to be one of the villains from Data East's [[Wikipedia:Burgertime|Burgertime]], but a quick check of the box art shows that the egg didn't wear a domino mask as portrayed here. Is this a ''Burgertime'' reference despite the cosmetic difference, or is the significance of the egg relevant to something else?
:Dude, it's breakfast, and it's walking. Some things in these cartoons are just silly for the sake of silly, not everything is a reference to something and/or has a hidden meaning. - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Nate Dogg==

I believe that Tenerence Love is 'sposed to sound like Nate Dogg. And also "It don't stop" is something that alot of rappers (especially Snoop Dogg) says. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Tenerence Love wearing a donut reminded me of Luther Vandross and his infamous diet, but I don't necessarily think that's a reference, either. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rap Song Visuals ==

Someone needs to write a separate article for the video's visuals (I don't know if I have time to do it) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Fast Food Freestyle==
This supposed RWR ("Peacey P places an order for food much like in the video "Fast Food Freestyle" on Youtube.") needs some discussing, methinks. Pretty funny video, and similar, but sometimes there's an overlap in ideas that TBC may think are original but that have been done before. Is it a reference? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd have to say TTATOT. It's just another random thing they do. Ordering breakfast in the middle of a rap song.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Peacey P ==

...is the abbreviation PCP, which can mean a lot of things ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP]), but probably Phencyclidine. This would make it another drug reference. --[[User:91.97.14.14|91.97.14.14]] 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:See his character page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Coach Z's accessories==
If you may notice, Coach Z's hat and Z change during the toon. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}

==I don't even know who's song this is==

Is that part a reference to the reputation of rap songs sampling other songs without permission? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Yes Yes, Yall ==

reference to the Will Smith song? most likely a coincidence, but i immediately thought of the Will Smith song Yes, Yes Yall (i think that's what it's called). whatchyall think? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Characters

Sompm — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:04:23 GMT

Sompm: /**/where be poppy?

== Questions ==

Okay. Rejects only has like 3 things to go in it, so does it get its own page? Also, in the "Who?" section, there are a whole lot of "characters", so that would get its own page....right? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:18, 16 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Hmm. I'm looking at the page now... Yeah, I don't know. I don't think they need their own page if we are going to have the Cheat Commandos on this page too. I know there's those bands there too. We might want to do something with them. Or at least adjust the section heading level. And it sure seems like there's a lot on this page. I think furrykef has something in mind though. Whatcha up to, Kef? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 16 Aug 2004 (MST)

I don't really have anything in mind. I just wanted to get the stuff indexed to make it easier to tell what's missing. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 09:14, 17 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Arg. Okay...personally, I like the smallerer pages. They're less...big...and ugly. I dunno though...it may look too sparse if we split up the thing into lotsa pages... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 10:15, 17 Aug 2004 (MST)

I think the rejects page was a good idea for all those "grey-area" characters places and things. But it seems to have been destroyed. What happened to it, and how was that decided upon?
--[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:Oops. Please note that this conversation happened last August. Currently there are no more rejects. This was "decided upon" mostly [[User_talk:Tom#Re:%20Rejects%20cat|here]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:38, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Pom Pom link==

Can I fix that Pom Pom link? it's buggin' the snot outta me. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:02, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, go ahead, I don't know what was going on there. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:20, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

== Character page official format ==

We need to come up with one. There's a lot of variation between the several character pages. I haven't followed the format for the few I did recently, simply because I couldn't see what the format should've been. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:17, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

:The format on [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]] seems fine to me. But I think we should limit each character page to one picture. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:47, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

::I kinda wanna just nuke the galleries, too. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 10:49, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You'll hear no complaints from me. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 10:53, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)
I want to know what happened to the halloween costume lists :) On the old wiki, each character had listed what they dressed up as each year for halloween.. It's been five years and TBC do not appear daunted in their love to painstakingly dress up the characters every year. Should the costume lists be added back on, nearby the 'aka' lists? [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 02:11, 31 Oct 2004 (MST)

As a followup, even the halloween toon pages lack a breakdown of who dressed up as what. If noone else feels up to it, let me know it's allowed and I'll add tasteful lists both to the characters' pages and the 'ween pages. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 02:14, 31 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Stickly Man ==

Please discuss in [[Talk:Stickly Man]] before editing Stickly Man's status as the 20x6 Poopsmith.

== Brief descriptions? ==

I've added brief descriptions to the computers, similar to the links in the AKA section to the real characters represented by the 20x6 and 1936 crew. Are the brief descriptions of the computer appropriate on this page, adding to the usefulness of the information; or should we be trying to keep the size and scope of index pages to a minimum? [[User:Render|Render]]

== Character Heights ==

In [[the facts]] Strong Bad's computer analysis reveals that Strong Mad is 88 inches tall and 88 inches wide. Actually he's about 7.25% taller than he is wide. Anyway, I did a height comparison for all the characters based on Strong Mad's height being 88 inches, using [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] as a reference. Here's what I got:

<table>
<tr>
<td>Character</td><td>Height</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Mad</td><td>7'4"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>The Cheat</td><td>3'0"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Marzipan</td><td>7'4"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>King of Town</td><td>5'0"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Coach Z</td><td>6'6"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Homestar</td><td>6'8"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Homsar</td><td>4'7"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Poopsmith</td><td>7'5"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Pom Pom</td><td>7'7"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Bad</td><td>5'5"</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Strong Sad</td><td>6'6"</td>
</tr>
</table>

Anyway the numbers were a little disappointing, as Strong Bad was indicated to be less than 4'0" tall in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], so I wasn't really sure if there was any way to incorporate this information into the site. I might run the numbers again using Strong Bad's height as 4'0" and see what I get.

:Interesting calculations. I've dabbled in the height thing a bit myself. Check out [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=12125#12125 the forum post]. Of course, I think it would be rather difficult to come up with anything definite.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:07, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Another reference point for the character heights is that The Cheat is 1'2", as revealed in [[Where's The Cheat?]] --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 18:51, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Don't forget that Pom Pom's ID says he is 6'2" [[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]

:The Cheat (sort of) puts Strong Mad as 6' in 'i she be'.

:Dude, you have way to much free time. Get a hobby.

::Nah, kudos go out to whoever did this -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::This is his hobby.

== Where my ideas reallly that bad? ==

What's wrong the Different Town and Virus sections?

Simply put, they were all only seen once. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:'''LOL''' we have a section for the Folky Tale characters, and they were seen only once. Isn't that a double standard? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 14:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

::The ones for folky Tale are new characters. Virused and others alike are vriations and appear on [[Minor Character Variations]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== Character Evolution ==

Shouldn't there be a link to each character's [[Character Evolution|Evolution]] on their character page? Seems like it should go in the bar at the bottom, but I don't know how to put it there. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

== Links in header lines ==

In my opinion, linking header lines is more convenient and less awkward than "[[Something]] is something something". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:07, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Guys You Don't See Anymore ==

There are alot of old, un-named "characters" that have a one paragraph pages just for them. Can we just make a full, long page about all of those? they are [[Unnamed Girl]], [[Homeschool Winner]], [[The Unguraits]], [[Dijjery-Doo]], [[The Robot (storybook)]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|the guys in the back of the arena]] and maybe [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Señor]] (as they appeared in [[flashback]]). We did it for [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters|Teen Girl Squad]] and [[The King Of Town's Food|The King of Town]]... [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 12:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
:Can someone please replay?? [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 05:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree, unnamed characters it is! [[User:Stongbah]]
::So I'm on it! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 16:13, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Galleries==

Would it be feasable to add small 'gallary format' pictures beside some of the character categories, as seen on such pages as [[Toilets]] and [[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]? It might help in the quest to clean up this page a bit. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I tried it out on the Main Characters, and it seems the only problem might be people clicking on the pictures trying to reach the articles. Should we revert it and try something else, or do the same to the rest of the page? I'm voting for the latter. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:48, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I think that looks fine. Is there a way to make the pictures link to a page, or is that the only way? But I really think it looks fine, I think if all of the other ones are like that, it would look alot cleaner--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 22:52, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Me too, but I'm curious about the picture link. Does anyone know if it's possible to link to the page instead? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:53, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::There's a way to link the pictures, but there's a lot of coding involved. I'm sure given time I could get it done if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:54, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::That would be excellent, or at least do the first one as a sample, and I'm sure somebody could copy the format for the rest. Then in that case, the only downside to the gallaries, would be this page is gonna get a bit longer. But all in all I think it's an improvement. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:57, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::After some frustration and trial and error, I have found that the gallery format does '''not''' allow linking of images to separate pages. This project would ionvolve uploading many new images and and placing them manually where they belong. Myself being unable to work with images very well, I regret to inform you that my task cannot be completed as expected. Sorry. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:09, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::::That's okay, I think this will still work well. Thanks for the attempt. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:21, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think the new gallery format looks outstanding! I reorganized the order just a bit, placing all the characters of the "real" universe before those in the "invented" universes (e.g. TGS and Cheat Commandos). Also, the Chaps have stated that Senor Cardgage is a real and separate character now, not just an alternate version of Strong Bad. Last, I moved bands and companies to a groups section, because they seemed to be taking up a lot of space without actually being characters. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Well, it look nice and all, but... I feel like a little child, you know? Not knowing how to read so I have to use pretty pictures to find out where I want to go. I think it made the page cluttered up and take longer to scroll. I don't hate it, but I'm not vary fond of it neither. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:38, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well it can be interpreted that way, yes. But we still have to think of the anonys, those that come to learn a bit here and there. They might not all know all the names, that could be why they're here in the first place. Plus it's alot faster to find a certain character, you just scroll down quickly and watch for a glimpse of the guy you're looking for. The worst thing is that the pictures don't link to the articles. I'm thinking maybe if somebody goes through all the pictures, and insures that the summary includes a bolded link to the main article, this'll probably be a good thing. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 11:05, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::You'r right. For all the new ones it's all good. And tomorow after school maybe I'll start working on those links. I like gnoming :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:30, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Half of the links are done. And you know what? I've take it to myself to caption correctly '''every freacking picture in the wiki'''! It would be long, it would be hard and maybe I'll need some help. but I can do it! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:03, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Why? What gain would that get us? Most of the captions are fine, thanks. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:12, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think it's a good idea. It'll allow us to search pictures more easily. Rock rock on. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:15, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Anybody else think [[TMBG]] need a different picture? Like, one that at least shows their entire faces? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of the galleries, I think that the 1936/2006/20X6 counterparts should be arranged in the same way, like having first the Homestar of the era, then the Strong Bad, then the The Cheat, and so on, especially for 1936, since all of the main characters but Homsar have counterparts there. 20X6 might be a bit difficult, at least until we find out whether or not 20X6 Coach Z and the Shadowy Figure are one in the same. [[User:Tom Temprotran|TTE]] 20:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

==Folk Tale World==
Should we really have all those Folk Tale World characters here? All of them except Saddy Dumpington link to the same page. We can move Saddy Dumpington to Other Alternates and the Folk Tale World page to Related Pages. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 01:30, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:Having the other characters fills out the section. Most of the secions are about 9–12 pictures big, and so even with all the Folk Tale World characters, this one's size is about par for the course. The point of all these galleries is to showcase all the various worlds and characters. The only reason we group things like minor Teen Girl Squad characters into one picture is that there's so many of them it would be ridiculous to try and show them all on this page. Also, even though the links for the Folk Tale characters mostly point to the same page, they don't all point to the same ''spot'' on that page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==[[Little Girl]] Location==

I moved her from Misc. Characters to Site Contributers, along with Missy and Ryan. I think she fits in better there. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:Good move, looks much better there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:59, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Contributors ==

Is it appropriate for the Contributors to be in the characters page? Since they themselves are not necessarily characters (unless they were part of the Peasant's quest trailer, or Limozeen, in which case they should be referred to by their character names, not their real names). I think this section deserves its own page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

P.S. who is Ruby Red Productions? It is listed as a contributor. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:In a few days I want to be create a [[Contributors]] page and take aforementioned section there, and then link it from the Related Pages subsection.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:14, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Minor Alternate Versions? ==

I'm wondering if some of the characters showing up in [[Characters#Other Alternates|Other Alternates]] should instead in be in [[Minor Alternate Versions]]? With the exception of Strong Bad's made-up animals, I think virtually all of these qualify as Minor Alternates. Anyone else agree? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Staff Characters ==
Listing Mike and Matt Chapman in the same page as Homestar and Strong Bad is... odd. They're staff, not actual H*R characters like the rest of 'em. Shouldn't real people who help H*R be listed on their own page? They aren't really "characters." - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, that is odd. But note that "Real Bands" is there too, along with Real Companies. Maybe the page title is no longer accurate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:12, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
::I mentioned the same thing a few comments above in the ''Contributors'' section. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:32, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yes, but no one seemed to notice it, unfortunately. Anyway, we don't need to change this page's name; just move the contributers to the Contributors page Stux menionted earlier. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::I'm guessing this sounds like some sort of consensus... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Okay! it's been moved! Feel free to [[Contributors|check it out!]] No, seriously, feel free to [[Contributors|check it out!]] I didn't modify it much, just pasted it in there, added categories, and spruced up header a bit. Oh and I inserted a rather lackluster introduction to the page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Brothers Strong ==

The Brothers Strong Entry in the Organizations page has no link... this should link to something, where does it mention the Brothers Strong as being an origanization? Where's the picture from? (The picture links to [[caper]], it says that's where it's from, but that is all) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

==See Gee En Buisness==
In reply to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Characters&curid=930&diff=204185&oldid=204173 Stux], maybe CGNU hasn't been in "Fictional Companies" before now because educational institutions aren't companies (certainly not public ones). I'm not sure it should be taken off, though.
:Techincally... I think that yes they are companies... private universities are likely 501(c)3's (non-profit, is that the right #?) and public universities are usually considered independent governmental organizations in and of themselves... so I think they can be considered "companies"... ? (Universities can hold patents, make money, get sued, and can even have bad customer service!) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:23, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hehe... you don't have to tell me about that last one! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
==romans==
can someone please upload a picture of the "romans" from the sbemail "highschool"?

== Bear-Shark ==

Do we really need two bear-shark/"Bear holding a Shark" links on this page? Which one should stay? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I SWARE I saw BearShark on Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

== Separate characters and character videos ==

I think that the Character Video should be on their own pages, not on the same page as their character. Thoughts? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno. The videos don't really take up that much space, and they are descriptive of each character. Why make people have to click through? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

::Because they're really different objects, one is a toon and one is a character. It just bothers me. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I would like to open this back up, mainly because I just saw the Marzipan article recieve the "Toons with Dialogue Alternatives" category. Characters should not go in toon categories, but that's the only way we can do this now. I still don't understand why we have character videos on character pages. Every single other video and snippet of flash on H*R gets a separate page except the character videos. I mean, if click-through was a problem we'd have all the Decemberween in July shorts on one page, for example. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:I would be okay with all the character video transcripts being on a single page, but I don't think they should each have a separate page if they're taken off of the characters' articles. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Why shouldn't they each have a separate page? We certainly have shorter and more useless pages than a character video transcript. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::To my mind, they're all part of the same feature: [[HR:characters2.html]]. Also, I guess if you're reading the transcript for one, you might be wanting to reading the transcript for some of the other ones, and this makes that easier.

:::However, I do see the advantage of each having its own page: it's easier to use {{tl|Film}} for each of the characters' filmographies. And, if we use some navigation templates, it won't be hard to find the other ones.

:::Either way, the more I think about it, I feel that it would be good to take the transcripts off the characters' main articles. I remember the first time I was trying to find one: it took me a while, and when I found it I was a little confused about why it was on there. We can still put prominent links on those pages to the separate article(s) for the character videos, and it might make the transcripts easier to find. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Template ==

I barely notice the "'''DOmicile: House'''" "'''Debut:''' Debut". So, here's an idea for a template for all main characters:
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;"
|+<big>'''{{{character_name}}}'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:{{{image}}}|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| [[{{{domicile}}}]]
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[{{{debut}}}]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:{{{character_name}}} Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
{{clear}}
Yes, it was tekn from [[Template:Infobox Band]]. Here's an example of <nowiki>{{Template name|character_name=Homestar Runner|domicile=Homestar's House|debut=Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"}}</nowiki>
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;"
|+<big>'''Homestar Runner'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:homestar.PNG|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| [[Homestar's House]]
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
{{clear}}
Just an idea. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I like it. Anymore info we could throw in? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::Perhaps you could just use <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> for the character name? [[Mr. Shmallow (character)]] is the only page this wouldn't work... though what would you do for characters that don't have a domocile? Oh, and your example wouldn't work... the | in the debut link will make all the stuff after it get ignored by the templating thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::This looks pretty cool. I, for one, welcome our new template overlords. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Thanks everyone! And, Phlip? This is just for m,ain characters, as they have the '''Domiclile:''' things. Wait, Homsar doesn't. See the revised template below.
{{clear}}
{| border=0 align=right cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 width=250 class="toccolours" style="float: right; clear: both; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 90%;"
|+<big>'''<nowiki>{{{PAGENAME}}}</nowiki>'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:{{{image}}}|100px]]
|- valign=top
! Domicile
| {{{domicile}}}
|- valign=top
! Debut
| [[{{{debut}}}]]
|- valign=top
!
| [[:Category:<nowiki>{{{PAGENAME}}}</nowiki> Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
|}
::::That way we can say None if needed. Oh, and your probably right about the | , but it's in a link, and it's in these tables a lot, so it actually would work. That and it works on the example. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 00:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

{{clear}}
== Teenage variations, etc. ==

Everything else is split so we can see the individual characters; teenage, middle school, and Free Petry Dish should be too. The amount of time it takes the page to load is negligible after it's already loaded over 220 images. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:I like the compromised version of the sub-headers. Should I upload seperate images of the babies? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::We already have the baby pics for Strong Bad, Strong Sad, Coach Z and the Diapersmith. I don't remember if we have one for Pom Pom, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Yep, we do. Just refer to the character pages for [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Poopsmith]] and [[Pom Pom]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== Created Worlds vs. Fictional Fictional Characters ==

In my opinion, "Fictional Fictional Characters" is a better name for the Teen Girl Squad, the Cheat Commandos, the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes gang etc. than "Created Worlds", because:
*[[Wikipedia:Fictional fictional character|It's a term used by Wikipedia]]
*It refers to the characters, not the worlds they live in
--[[User:66.26.92.121|66.26.92.121]] 01:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Badian Pseudocharacters ==

I think that the [[Characters#Strong Badia|Strong Badia characters]] should be a subsection of [[Characters#Pseudocharacters|Pseudocharacters]]. Anyone agree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
*You may have a point. They do seeem to fit.[[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 16:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
**Done'd {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Also which what? ==

I really think our "Also known as" section in Character pages could do with a rename. Not only is it misleading (people try to add [[Nicknames]] to the sections ''all the frikking time''), but it's not exactly accurate (I don't think [[Pom Pom]] would respond well if he was called [[Fat Dudley]]). Perhaps "Alternate forms" or "Variants"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Either of those would be a good alternate title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I say we rename it "Character Variations", like the [[:Category:Character Variations|category]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:::That's a good idea. I like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== The decemberween decorations ==

Should the Decemberween decoration versions of the characters from decemberween short shorts be an alternate?

== Undead Strong Bad ==

I believe that Strong Bad as a zombie should be included in this page as an [[Characters#Other_Alternates|Other Alternate]]. Any comments? —{{User:Supuhstar/sig}}
:Actually it all depends on what will come of [[The Zombie Uprising of 2046]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suggestion for Homsar & Senor==

Senor shows up too much to be misco & Homsar shows up too little to be main. Both should be secondary & the kings lackies should be misco; though they have been showing up more & more lately, but not as often as Senor or Homsar. Of course all of them could be listed as "Frequent Guest." ^_^
:Homsar is widely considered to be one of the "core 12", as his presence is usually in an Easter egg. Senor Cardgage, on the other hand, rarely interacts with the others, and does not have his own character page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

==Chart==

If anyone has the time & will, I'd love to see a chart of character vs year on appearences. For instance, the graph would show Strong Bad skyrocketing ujp the graph while Pom Pom slowly plunges & goes slightly up again. It would be based on appearences in both emails & toons. Last year, I was almost positive Pom Pom was going to vanish like all the king's men, but then they started showing up again while popular characters like Teen Girl Squad & Cheat Commandos are making a small decline.

== Minor Characters? ==

''Moved from: [[Talk:Tentacle Skull#Minor Characters]]''

Resume discussion! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I think we should make a [[Minor Characters]] page and put any character with only one appearance there. Who's with me? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think... that would be the longest page ever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::Why? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:::It couldn't be any longer than [[Characters|this]] page.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 23:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, it would, because it would have to have more detail and description of each character. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::But it wouldn't have all of those, just the minor ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the real people like [[Don Knotts]], all it would need is a link to the appropriate Wikipedia article.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Dorian, why don't we try it and cut it into smaller pages and categories if need be? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Like "Real people that appear in the H*R Universe," "Minor characters with only one appearance," and "minor characters" that that have more than one appearance but really REALLY [[Ali and Ali's Sister|don't need their own page]].--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Actually, ali and ali's sister should, as they've become a running joke and have 3 appearances, but the rest of what you said is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:I'm with you like no otha, brotha!--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 23:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::Wait, didn't we decide not to merge most pages? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:::That discussion was while ago, though. Lemme go dig it up.
:::'''LATER:''' [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 7#Merge Crazy|Here's the ol' discussion]]. Just for reference. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, otherwise, we keep ending up with more and more and more pages with just two or three sentences directly quoted from the "references" section of some toon and a link to a Wikipedia article. It's just unsightly.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 00:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== where be poppy? ==

poppy the tire isn't in the mascots section? we have the stop sign... mistake or purposeful?

Talk:big white face

Sompm — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:19:59 GMT

Sompm: /**/funny'd

== Millbrae, CA ==

hells yeah, im from millbrae, CA. i wish i knew this person.
:Don't we all? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Googlewhack'd

== Opinion ==

I don't really like that e-mail, I mean what did [[Strong Bad]] ever do to the [[The Poopsmith|Poopsmith]]?-[[User: Gordon 584| Gordon 584]]
:...That's the joke. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]
::Actuly, I agre with Gordon [[User:Yo yo mom|Yo yo mom]]

== Ice cubes? ==

This is just me talkin', but I thought those were chunks of salmon. Weird, huh?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 15:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad knew? ==

Does anyone else think that SB '''knew''' this was about Strong Sad? I'm convinced that this the case because.

1: It shows how "unable" he is to be nice to SS.

2: SB (And also TBC?) would cleary joke at someone who obviously doesn't know the site inside out enough, to know who SS is.

[[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:This is more of a forum style post. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== funny'd ==

the "sbemail song" of this one sounds like one of the freak out that sb did in front of ss in funny. so, fast forward? or naht? [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 03:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:funny

Sompm — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:13:01 GMT

Sompm: /* hallucino-DOES STRONG SAD DO LSD? */

==Closed STUFF==
These were on the [[STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Awesome Sauce (Declined)===
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
**'''Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.'''Are you serious, or just plain stupid? '''DELETED!'''-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:58, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)
*acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
**Um, what?-- [[User:Drake|Drake]]
***I think he/she means that the DVD commentary mentions that 409 and Awesome are both cleaners.--[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]]
*'''Accept.''' OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to
"Awexome Cross
".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**The problem with that fun fact isn't that they don't sound similar (because they do.) The problem is that it's very UNLIKELY that the words "Awesome Sauce" were chosen SPECIFICALLY to refer to awexome cross. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:09, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)
***See, I disagree that it's unlikely; as I said, "sauce" is an odd word to use to refer to a cleanser, and it seems likely there's some reason that specific word was chosen. I'm not convinced it was chosen to refer to Awexome Cross, but I don't think it's all that unlikely. But, again, it seems mine is the only (signed) Accept among a large number of Declines, so my vote's probably not going to make a difference here anyway... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:30, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.'''Although they rhyme, I'm 99.9% sure that this was not meant to be a reference. I think the word "sauce" was probably used because the first 4 letters of awesome rhyme with it.--[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]]

==I sent in the email==
Just saying I sent in the email. -Silvermonkey8

Wow, cool. lucky. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}}

Best. Email. Ever. Thanks, man. You should get a t-shirt that says "I sent in 'funny.'" --Jimmy Jammies

Awesome! {{User:Camalex/sig}} 17:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

But can you prove it? You just need to show a screenshot of the email from your inbox with the right date. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:27, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

You're lucky! I wish my emails would get answered.{{User:Hrwiki}} 29 Oct 2005

Thank you! That was my very first glimpse of homestarrunner.com and Strong Bad Emails! {{User:sonicfeet}} 17 Jan 2007
== First Eat? ==
Is this really the first time Strong Bad eats? He eats a cupcake if you win that [[Revenge of the King]] game, but he.... kinda just.... rubs it all over his face, rather than actually eating it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 07:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Another Goof ==

I noticed while watching the Easter Egg you get when you click Strong Mad's face while he's spinning around, when it's finished, Strong Mad bounces left instead of right, so he would be going back to his computer room, not toward Strong Sad.

[[User:Eric55673|Eric55673]] 16:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

ummm....due to the nature of this email, i don't think goofs are ever worth talking about. 15:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[[user:haldo]]

== hallucino-DOES STRONG SAD DO LSD? ==

unless I'm horribly mistaken, quite a few years ago (and maybe even today) people with chronic depression would take hallucinogens, wich to non-depressed people are drugs. could "did you take my pills again?" be a reference to such? (being that strong sad was unaware of strong bad's "funny"ness, and thought he was high.)[[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 03:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:funny

Sompm — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:12:33 GMT

Sompm: /**/hallucino-DOES STRONG SAD DO LSD?

Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0

Sompm — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:52:43 GMT

Sompm: /* The Cheat?! */

*WPKG is a real radio station based in Neillsville, Wisconsin. The number is 92.7 and the genre is "Nostalgia." Cornbread hour indeed.

== Cornbread... ==

They've mentioned Cornbread in "A Decemberween Pageant" too. Does this qualify as an inside joke?

:Um... it might be, but i think its just random talk. {{User:Bubsty/sig}}
==unlimited supply==
one thing that you could put down as "remarks" is that strong bad says that marzipan has won an "unlimited supply" of one million punches in the face. since one million is a set number, it's not unlimited.

:Funny thing, someone added that the other day but it was removed. Their wording was:
<blockquote>Since Strong Bad quantifies the number of punches in the face Marzipan is to receive (one million), it would not be an unlimited supply.</blockquote>
:How do you like that wording?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:30, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Ron or are on?==

I always thought homestar said "Sweepstakes are on," not "Sweepstakes Ron." Anyone else agree? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:36, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I clearly hear "Sweepstakes Ron". This also makes sense in context, as Homestar is talking on the phone to someone he believes to be a radio host. It would make sense for Homestar to address this person and then question why Ron isn't responding.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Ok, whateva. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:31, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== The Cornbread hour ==

I know this isn't a fun fact, but I'll post it here anyway. In Saint Louis the radio station [http://www.wil92.com/ 92.3 WIL] there is a moring show called the [http://www.cornbreadshow.com/home.asp Cornbread Show]. I don't know, I just thought this was funny.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:17, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Think its a coinidence or not? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:04, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
It reminds me of the King biscuit flour hour. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 21:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hmmm... Me too. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

==Messiogio==

Did Marzipan say "messiagio" or "messiogio?"

==The Cheat?!==
Why does the Cheat walk past the answering machine at the beginning of the last message (Homestar's message)?
:I guess they wanted to do something for those who thought it needed more animation. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:so should something about that be in the script?

Subtitles:sbemail163/en

Sompm — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:52:00 GMT

Sompm: clacking vs. clanking

{{subtitles|what I want}}
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<line start="16" end="45"><strongbad>(singing) Ding-ding-dong, ding-ding-dong, ding-ding-</strongbad></line>
<line start="45" end="62"><strongbad>"Dear Strong Baaad."</strongbad></line>
<line start="63" end="90" speaker="strongbad">"What do you want for Decemberween?"</line>
<line start="91" end="111" speaker="strongbad">"your holiday spirit"</line>
<line start="112" end="139" speaker="strongbad">"Talon Jen-d-dro"</line>
<line start="140" end="161" speaker="strongbad">Where'd you get that name?</line>
<line start="162" end="185" speaker="strongbad">George Lucas?</line>
<line start="186" end="267" speaker="strongbad">Ta'lon J'en-dr'o from the computery generated planet of Des' Moi-nes'ia.</line>
<line start="268" end="319" speaker="strongbad">Anyways, everybody knows the kind of stuff I want, Ta'lon.</line>
<line start="320" end="355" speaker="strongbad">A catapult that launches balls of cobras,</line>
<line start="356" end="377" speaker="strongbad">a chainsaw car,</line>
<line start="378" end="409" speaker="strongbad">a subscription to EGM2,</line>
<line start="410" end="430" speaker="strongbad">a hot step-sister.</line>
<line start="431" end="455" speaker="strongbad">That email writes itself.</line>
<line start="456" end="514" speaker="strongbad">It's more important that I establish what I don't want for Decemberween.</line>
<line start="515" end="581" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="yes">Our first item is a perennial all-star of bad awful Decemberween presents:</line>
<line start="582" end="601" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="yes">the ornament.</line>
<line start="602" end="645" speaker="marzipan">There's no better way to say, "I have no idea what your interests are"</line>
<line start="646" end="695" speaker="marzipan">than to give someone a present that ceases to be useful the moment it's opened.</line>
<line start="696" end="775" speaker="strongbad">Yes, there's nothing like opening a gift just in time to put it in a box in the attic for a year.</line>
<line start="776" end="821" speaker="strongbad">And next Decemberween when you get it back out, guess what?</line>
<line start="822" end="868" speaker="strongbad">It's still just a cool snowman surfing the internet.</line>
<line start="869" end="899" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="yes">Internet is so hot this year.</line>
<line start="900" end="914" sfx="yes">phone ringing</line>
<line start="915" end="932" speaker="strongbad">Oh, we got a caller.</line>
<line start="933" end="1003" speaker="strongbad">Go ahead, caller. How many F-R-one-one-four-P-dash-D-C-eights should I put you down for?</line>
<line start="1004" end="1069" speaker="strongsad" volume="0.9" voiceover="yes">Strong Bad, did you put wildebeest pheromones in my laundry again?</line>
<line start="1070" end="1090"><sfx volume="0.9">wildebeest noises</sfx><strongsad volume="0.9">Auugh!</strongsad></line>
<line start="1092" end="1105" sfx="yes">dial tone</line>
<line start="1106" end="1141" speaker="strongbad">Another satisfied customer.</line>
<line start="1142" end="1194" speaker="strongbad">Next up, we have one of those mechanical dancing musical nobots.</line>
<line start="1195" end="1242" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="yes">The kind that you accidentally activate by getting too close.</line>
<line start="1243" end="1300"><strongbad>(heavily distorted music and singing) I'm like come on Fhqwhgads, I said come on Fhqwhgads,</strongbad></line>
<line start="1300" end="1322"><strongbad>Everybody to the limit, The Cheat is to the limit.</strongbad></line>
<line start="1323" end="1374" speaker="marzipan">Listen to that moldy oldy in glorious drive-thru stereo.</line>
<line start="1375" end="1403" speaker="strongbad">Who can appreciate the song when all you're really</line>
<line start="1404" end="1445"><sfx>grinding</sfx><strongbad voiceover="yes">hearing are the plastic gears and motors clacking together</strongbad></line>
<line start="1445" end="1497"><sfx>grinding</sfx><strongbad voiceover="yes">in an effort to barely bust some sort of move.</strongbad></line>
<line start="1498" end="1549" speaker="marzipan">These things just scream "I stopped at the drug store on my way over".</line>
<line start="1550" end="1587" speaker="marzipan">Now, on to our next item.</line>
<line start="1588" end="1610" speaker="marzipan">Uhh, Strong Bad?</line>
<line start="1611" end="1670"><strongbad>Sorry, I'm completely entrangled by those hypnotically swaying hips.</strongbad></line>
<line start="1670" end="1694"><sfx>grinding</sfx><strongbad>Sorry, I'm completely entrangled by those hypnotically swaying hips.</strongbad></line>
<line start="1695" end="1710" speaker="strongbad" sfx="yes">aiy-aiy-aiy-aiy-aiy</line>
<line start="1711" end="1779" speaker="strongbad">Our last gift items are all about the false notion that just because you made something yourself,</line>
<line start="1780" end="1803" speaker="strongbad">it's not a worthless piece of crap.</line>
<line start="1804" end="1863" speaker="marzipan">These sea-shells have office supplies hot-glued to them for absolutely no reason.</line>
<line start="1864" end="1935" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="yes">Yes, and the more globs of hot glue I can see, the quicker I throw it in the trash.</line>
<line start="1936" end="1985" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="yes">This clothes-pin reindeer ornament is forgettably precious.</line>
<line start="1986" end="1993"><sfx>record scratches</sfx><strongbad>Woah!</strongbad></line>
<line start="1993" end="2015" speaker="strongbad">home-made and an ornament!</line>
<line start="2020" end="2050" speaker="strongbad">That thing is an anti-gift.</line>
<line start="2050" end="2112" speaker="strongbad">If someone gives you one of those, you actually have to pay them because it's so poor.</line>
<line start="2113" end="2142" speaker="strongbad">Uh, probably because they're so poor.</line>
<line start="2143" end="2147" sfx="yes">white noise</line>
<line start="2147" end="2189" speaker="strongbad">So Ta'lon, my young apprentice, there's my</line>
<line start="2190" end="2239" speaker="strongbad">"Please Great Aunt Whoever, Don't Get Me This Stuff For Decemberween" list.</line>
<line start="2239" end="2250" speaker="strongbad">"Please Great Aunt Whoever, Don't Get Me This Stuff For Decemberween" list.</line>
<line start="2251" end="2275" speaker="strongbad">I highly suggest you make your own.</line>
<line start="2276" end="2294" speaker="strongbad">But if it doesn't work,</line>
<line start="2295" end="2359" speaker="strongbad">don't forget to take advantage of all the temporary help that retailers hire this time of year.</line>
<line start="2360" end="2390" speaker="strongbad">Those people will refund anything!</line>
<line start="2391" end="2456" speaker="strongbad">Last year, I returned an omelette to a hardware store for nigh on fifty bucks.</line>
<line start="2457" end="2497" speaker="strongbad">Well, happy Decemberween everybloody!</line>
<line start="2498" end="2509" sfx="yes">geddup noise</line>
<line start="2510" end="2521" speaker="thepaper">Preeeow!</line>
<line start="2534" end="2634"><singers>(heavily distorted music and singing) Everybody! Everybody! Everybody! Everybody!</singers></line>
</transcript>
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Talk:web comics

Sompm — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:20:34 GMT

Sompm: /**/did I err?

==Penny Arcade==

Doesn't anyone think that that Game Pox comic looks like Penny Arcade?[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:What, the first comic? With the brick? That's the first thing that came to MY mind, and I've never even read Penny Arcade. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Already in Real-World References. And yes, yes it does. It's a reference, no doubt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:While Strong Bad is pretty clearly modelled after Gabriel, I don't know who the Strong Sad character is supposed to be. But the speech balloons and fonts look similar, also. I think the reference should be put back. (I think it was removed earlier.) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Strong Bad's point is that there are a million comics like this. We can't assume that he's making a reference to one specific comic. And as far as being modeled after Gabriel or whoever, I disagree. And besides.. again.. lots of comics are alike. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:::STUFF'd. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
If not PA, its most likely CAD

[[User:69.125.174.75|69.125.174.75]]
Poster of that fun fact

:I don't think so. There's nothing that reminds me of CAD in "Game Pox". If anything, Strong Sad is reminiscent of PvP a ''little'' bit, but not enough for me to call it a reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That is definitely a PA reference. If you say otherwise, well, you're wrong, and you're just going to have to deal with that. And that's my objective opinion on the matter. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, after seeing the cartoon and noticing the conspicuous absence of a Penny Arcade fun fact, I moseyed over to look for the conversation. Obviously it needs to keep conversing a little longer, but my two cents are in favor of it. Yes yes, there are Ctrl-Alt-Del and PvP and Dueling Analogs and VGcats and ever and more. But TBC didn't have to put a shirt on Strong Bad at all, much less a yellow one. Plus his black hair, scowly expression, and backwards-leaning posture—I think they were trying their best to give us an overt reference. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Not only that, but look at the way the eyes and necks are drawn. The art style is closer to PA than PvP or CAD.

::I dunno, I've been reading penny arcade almost as long as I've been going to homestar runner, and I just don't see it. I'll grant that the characters look somewhat like their real life counterparts, but I say that's a pretty oblique reference. There's nothing else really penny arcade about the comic, none of the writing screams penny arcade (except maybe the very early stuff). I still say it's too much of a stretch. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 15:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I think you most likely feel this way ''because'' you're very familiar with PA and thus notice the differences, but to someone who's only passingly familiar with it, it's pretty obviously supposed to be PA. Plus, PA is the most famous of of the gamernerd nerdgeek webcomics, and they're well-known for being impossible to understand if you don't play video games (just see the article on them in Wired...)--[[User:75.68.233.187|75.68.233.187]] 15:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:While Strongsad's character is debatable, Strongbad is definitely a reference to Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Bad is Gabe from Penny Arcade. It is possible that Strong Sad is supposed to be someone else entirely from a different comic. Below someone suggests the idea that he's from Ctrl-Alt-Del, about which i know nothing -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: Personally, I thought it was the Red vs Blue comic when I first saw this email.
::Then you're mental. It could not look less like or be less related to RvB -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:As I said earlier, Strongbad's character is a reference to Penny Arcade. However, the way it's worded now, it sounds like the bit is ONLY a reference to Penny Arcade; it's obviously slamming the thousands of webcomics out there that are Two Guys Talking About Videogames. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:: I still agree; Strongbad's character is a PA reference. Strong ''Sad's'' character, however, I have no idea about it. And just to clear things up for the nay-sayers, if you still don't believe us, take a look at this picture:
:: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2706/sbpaee9.gif
:: But like Stev0 said, it is important to distinguish between the two characters, since there's no resemblance at all between Strong Sad's character and Tycho. If anyone could figure out who he's supposed to be, that would be even better. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 05:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::: I don't how they'd make Strong Sad look like Tycho. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::: I agree that it's probably Penny Arcade and not CAD, but I disagree with the way it's worded now: "''The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the webcomic Penny Arcade and its numerous imitators.''" Its kinda un-encyclopedaic. I suggest "''The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the Penny Arcade webcomic and the numerous other comics like it.''" or something along those lines. While it is referencing PA directly, it's also referring to all the other gaming webcomics, not all of which are PA ripoffs. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 19:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::: I agree; looking at the archives of Penny Arcade, it first appeared 11/18/98, while PvP first appeared 5/4/98, well before Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 19:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Check out the wording as of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=web_comics&direction=next&oldid=505979 this revision]. I think it works better overall. The references in this email are in most cases not clearly references to specific comics or cartoons, but rather spoofs of each genre as a whole. With that in mind, it makes much more sense to call out a notable example with "such as", as it identifies a well-known example for people to relate to, without necessarily drawing an exact reference between that comic/toon and the spoof/parody in the email. Does that help? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's great, thank you. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 13:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Captain N parody? ==

Part of this email clearly seems to be sending up Captain N the Game Master. A series which featured a human in the video game world, and the game worlds, story plots and characters often bore little or no resemblance to their game counterparts. For example the Secret Collect character is a whiney coward not unlike Simon Belmont's portrayal in Captain N. The in-jokes may even go further than I recognise.

:Reminded me more of the Pac-Man cartoon, personally. Captain N centered around a real-world human, as well as a whole *group* of random NES characters; not much of a similarity IMO. Also, Simon Belmont was a whiny coward in Captain N (something he very much is *not* in Castlevania games, but I digress), but he was also a hopeless narcissist, which Secret Collect isn't. Ramble. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:It seems more than just Captain N. There were also shows like the "Super Mario Bros. Super Show," The Legend of Zelda TV Series, and the Megaman TV Series... two of the three can be found nowadays in the form of something completely mixed up on Youtube. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 01:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::Honestly, I'm not sure where so many people are getting these mixed references to every single video game-based cartoon ever out of the five-second Secret Collect cartoon clip. Unless there's something horribly wrong with my computer, and the SBEMail is skipping over a five-minute segment making fun of those cartoons, all I'm seeing is a teen, a dog, and a talking red cube. And a stereotypical '70s-'80s cartoon villain. As someone who once watched those old cartoons religiously, I just can't see any connection whatsoever to Zelda, Super Mario, Sonic, Megaman, or any other of the myriad of video game-based cartoons and anime; those were, despite being cheesy, at least based on games with actual characters and plotlines. And it's *especially* nothing like Captain N, which was basically a collective of random characters in random settings. I mean, jeez, the three main villains were from Metroid, Punch Out, and Kid Icarus! The Secret Collect cartoon is, if anything, a jab at Saturday Supercade, which made cartoons out of those simple one-screen arcade games with no actual characterization, such as Pac-Man (which, yes, I know, was its own cartoon), Frogger, Q*Bert, and Donkey Kong. (DK wasn't *always* the bowtie-wearing banana-loving hipster he is today, kiddies.) If the cartoon featured, say, Secret Collect, Duck Guardian, Kid Speedy, Thy Dungeonman, and the guy from Where's An Egg?, along with the human kid, then yes, it'd be an obvious Captain N parody. But it doesn't. So it ain't. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Bob and George? ==

Been a while since I had posted here. Anyway, when SB was listed out "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves." The first thing that came to mind when he mentioned "video games" (and later said "just steal some graphics from your favorite video game") was the Web Comic [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/ Bob and George], further enforced with the Stinkoman comic bit where the majority of Stinkoman sprites were based off of Megaman... Heck, I too am guilty of the use of videogame graphics for my own web-comic... which I'm currently slacking on. Also, I'd like to point out the MS Paint comment SB mentioned. Many new comers to the sprite/pixel comic landfill often use MS Paint as their very first program, and use it very badly. As far as the Elves part goes, I'm unsure. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 04:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Unlike Penny Arcade, which has a form that is discernably lampooned, Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater et. al. don't really have any hallmarks that would make them stand out from other sprite comics. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well, unless you count Bob and George being the '''first''' significant sprite comic. There's a reputation for really bad comic writers to base their works on Bob and George as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I believe it's lampooning ALL sprite comics. I also think 8-Bit Theater is more well known, if we have to point out one. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 20:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree; it's just about all sprite comics. We don't need to point out one specifically. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Explanations ==

I think GamerJox is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Ctrl+Alt+Del |Ctrl+Alt+Del]]. Strong Sad strongly resembles Lucas. And those web comics with the sprites could be referenced to [[Wikipedia:8-Bit Theater |8-Bit Theater]].
*Strong Bad's pompadour, yelling pose and yellow shirt are pretty reminiscent of Gabriel. Contrariwise, I don't see anything in Strong Sad resembling Lucas other than he's fat. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
*No, I don't think so. Lucas wears a white shirt, and has hair more like Strong Bad's. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
**By the way, heading off at the pass further discussion of 8-Bit Theater: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of when Strong Bad began talking about it, but as he went on to describe such crappy examples, I think he's really just referencing the dozens upon thousands of amateur attempts using the same method. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Should "Burn" and "Dodge" be added to the Photoshop explanations section or are they self explanatory? {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

==Spamusement==

Is the Spam-based comic a reference to [http://www.spamusement.com/ | Spamusement]? I don't know of any other webcomic that does this. I'm not saying there aren't, I'm just saying I don't know about them if there are. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:STUFF'd. Vote there. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

::STUFF should be only be used when there's no consensus on the talk page. Here's the fact that was removed (edited a bit):
<blockquote>
The Cheat's web comic, based on spam mailers' names, is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Spamusement!|Spamusement!]]'', a real-life comic made from spam email subject lines.
</blockquote>
::This seems to be a legitimate reference to me; the gimmicks behind the comics are almost identical, and I doubt that there are any other real-life web comics that are similar. Anybody agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it's probably a reference, unless someone can demonstrate that it's [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:The following comments/arguments were moved here from the STUFF page — hopefully, we can find consensus on this fact here without the need for the STUFF process. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
:''Argument For from [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]]:'' Both The Cheat's comic and Spamusement! reference spam, and have bad art.

:''Comment from [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]]:'' It was kind of annoying how people kept deleting and re-adding this before this section in STUFF was added, especially when they gave it as their reason for removing it. Not that it has much to do with the current argument; I'm just saying.-[[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 23:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:''Argument Against from [[User:Ten Ten|Ten Ten]]:'' Claiming it as a reference to one specific source is ambiguous: there are multiple groups that spend time making fun of spam messages.
</blockquote>

::While there are many groups devoted to making fun of spam, crappy drawings based on spam subject lines are pretty much Spamusement!'s trademark, methinks. [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]] 00:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:::<s>I can't really see that TBC were specifically referencing Spamusement. The concept doesn't exactly match Spamusement; The Cheat draws things based on the senders' names, Spamusement draws things based on the subject line. Besides that, The Cheat's screen looks nothing like the POOR web design of Spamusement. Also, looking at several of Spamusement's drawings, they all seem to be black and white, whereas The Cheat's are full color. And The Cheat's style matches all PBTC artistry, so you can't really take drawing style into account. I have to admit, though, that a Google search did not seem to produce anything that compares to Spamusement. I didn't try very hard, though. And I'm not on the fence about it. I would vote to reject this being listed as a real world reference. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</s>

::::Perhaps you're not familiar with how a 'reference' works. What would they have to do for it to be a reference to Spamusement? Have the cheat make comics based on spam subject lines in black and white, matching that guy's style and his style of web design? HILARIOUS. Direct copying of someone else? thats comedic gold. No place for creativity here folks. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Fine, I take it back. I didn't enjoy this email as it is; just not my kind of humor this time. A rare miss by TBC, IMO. ''(from [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]'s edit summary when removing the above comment)'' 04:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Kirby ==

The stupid paint thing that is drawn on the Stinkoman comic looks a little like Kirby in a messed up way.

Pardon me, but I don't think I see the resemblance. Other than a round pink shape and having a face. But other than that, you really have to stretch it to see the resemblance. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Smurfs ==

*It's not something I want to put on the page without discussing it (unlike Penny Arcade where I'm pretty sure), but the evil wizard from the Secret Collect cartoon reminds me of Gargamel. He wears a crappy looking cloak, is balding, has rotten teeth, and the shot of his castle is reminiscent of all the interior shots in Gargamel's castle. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree entirely, although he also reminds me of <strike>Mitch Overlord</strike> Bozar. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 19:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno, I don't want to add this unless I get more notes saying it's not a stretch. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Mitch Overlord? Are you sure you don't mean [[Bozar]]? -invisible_map
:::I'm surprised no one has said that the "cool dog" is a reference to Poochie the dog from ''The Simpsons''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Spam senders ==

Some of those names, besides Hooray4Dolphins I reckon could be from some other wellknown characters.

Public D. Themackinest - Pompon, The Mack
Lowpoint K. Festivals - Strong Sad, being at a constant lowpoint

There may be others that I have not been able to decifer. I know that it might be a reach, and in any way a weak case, but I just throught that I would throw it out there. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 15:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: It's an interesting theory, but it strikes me as speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Signature blocks ==

I added the following fact as a real world reference:
:The characters in GamerJox monotonously reciting computer specifications at the end of their comic is a reference to the inclusion of such information in [[Wikipedia:Signature block|signature blocks]] of posts in [[Wikipedia:Internet forum|internet forums]] by computer technology enthusiasts.
And it was removed with this explanation:
:Why would he be referencing signature blocks/internet forums in an email about web comics?? And being "similar to" is not enough to be a real world reference.)
The random spouting off computer specs really deserves an explanation, and I'm convinced that this is it. Why else would he possibly have done it? To answer the question the deleter asks, I would imagine Strong Bad is implying that these characters are the kinds of people who use and see computer specs in internet forum signature blocks so regularly that they automatically use them as a "signoff" even when communicating in person. That does seem odd, but it's a joke, and that's how I interpreted it. Did anyone interpret it some other way? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 18:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded. That makes total sense. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:The reason is that it's a parody of all the unnecessary technogeekery that crop up in these types of comics. It's like if someone were to parody ''Peanuts'' by having Lucy say "Insult of Charlie Brown!" and Linus say "Vaguely related Bible verse!" Or something. There was a parody comic of ''Ozy and Millie'' that went kinda like that, but I can't find it anymore. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 04:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Here's a question though: is this more of a real-world reference or an explanation? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 02:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cast of Characters ==

How much of the characters in the comics and cartoons and so one should we include in the cast list? Any? All? Note that not everything in the cast has to be linked. Personally, I'm for including everyone we can name/has a speaking part. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==Captain N==

The first Saturday morning cartoon reminds me of Captain N. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Good thing this is different than the other Captain N message about 3 blocks up -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Stinkoman Sprite Comics ==

This is obvious, but the Stinkoman Sprite Comic definitely references Stinkoman Sprite Comics on the Fanstuff Wiki. I've seen MS Painted graphics in these things. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:P.S. This doesn't need to be STUFF'd! {{User:Im a bell/sig}}

Well, they're not the only sprite comics with MS Painted endings. 8-bit Theater, for one. I believe that the reason the TBC used Stinkoman 20X6 is that his game was the only sprite-styled game cinematic enough for sprite comic use. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:P.S. Doesn't need to be STUFF'd? Why? There seems to be other explanations. We just might need to STUFF it. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Changed my mind. No STUFF. It's spoofing the whole genre of sprite comics. Just don't put it there at all. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:It bears mentioning that the genre exists, and in fact 8-Bit Theater is/was one of the first comics to do it (and ''the'' first to become famous for doing so). If we can have a Fun Fact referencing Penny-Arcade "and its many imitators", then we should be able to have a similar one for 8-Bit Theater and its derivatives. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== ... and elves. ==

I believe that Strong Bads line, "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves" makes a reference to 8-bit Theater, at least the part about elves. [[User:12.18.218.230|12.18.218.230]] 01:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, because 8-Bit Theater is the only webcomic ''ever'' to be about elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Elves don't pertain to 8-Bit Theater specifically. But I would argue that the Stinkoman sprite comic ''is'' a more specific reference to 8-Bit Theater - that's the webcomic/animation series that is most commonly "blamed" for starting that particular sub-genre. I believe that's a valid reference. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:::If we're going for specifics, the Stinkoman comic is more like Bob and George, another pioneer of the genre - Mega Man sprites and MS Paint'ed non-punchlines are something of a signature for it (although in the latter case, it's never as obnoxious as presented by Strong Bad). [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm not aware of there being many (if any) "MS Paint'ed non-punchlines" in Bob and George. Its imitators, perhaps, but not B&G proper. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Turning back the hands of time, there was a pretty popular webcomic called "Elf Life." I think it's still active today. Nonetheless, other than the use of video game sprites and college gamers geeks, elves are often used as a character base line. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 13:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Why are you guys so quick to delete valid Real-World References? ==

I'm noticing a trend here, especially in this email, but more generally across the board in recently released toons and emails. This email is full of references to modern Internet culture, yet the established members of this community seem REALLY eager to just delete those references ''without discussion'' and without checking the facts (or showing they have checked the facts) being asserted. For example: My entry for the Stinkoman comic referencing 8-Bit Theater was removed almost immediately after I added it, with an edit summary saying that 8-Bit Theater was the ONLY comic out there that used video-game sprites.

Now, it's possible that person was being sarcastic (and honestly, guys, that kind of sarcasm doesn't help discussion at all), but the statement itself is patently false. Dozens of sprite-based comics (including many direct knock-offs and parodies) have been spawned mainly due to 8-Bit Theater's existence. G4 even has a syndicated TV show now based on that concept. 8-Bit Theater was one of the first comics using that particular medium to become successful (whether it was actually the very first one to do it is highly debatable, but it's famous for doing it well).

I just find it really discouraging to see people just deleting perfectly valid information like that without allowing for discussion and consensus. I realize we have STUFF, but it seems like even that vehicle is being sidestepped more and more lately. It's part of the reason I haven't been participating on this wiki as much as I used to - sometimes, this community can come across as downright hostile.

</soapbox> {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:STUFF (or at least STUFFing immediately) has been discouraged of late in favor of a talk page discussion. (See below.) As for the attitude of the people here, as long as I can remember we've had established users who are consistently sarcastic (not that there's anything right with that). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::It's one thing to be sarcastic in a friendly way, but comments like "Like this is the ''only'' place that elves have ''ever'' been referenced!" as a reply to someone asking for discussion is really quite unfriendly, and it seems against the spirit of the community that I joined two years ago. That's why I'm bringing it up now.

::As for the STUFF: I reverted your removal of my STUFF item because people have been trying to discuss that particular topic here in at least three separate threads on this Talk page. All of those have been summarily shot down as TTATOT without considering that a reference to the genre might be appropriate. I figured we'd make more headway in a single, organized discussion - that was what STUFF was originally designed for, was it not? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Our approach to STUFF has undergone some changes, and for reasons I think are quite good. More discussion and less voting is a good thing. I think it's appropriate to use a straight vote as a last resort, so STUFF does still have a purpose here, but I think it's good that we've reduced its use as we have. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Okay. I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't turn into the problematic Talk-vote process that existed before STUFF came into use in the first place. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm the one who reverted that fact, yes I *was* being sarcastic, and if you'll notice in the edit summary, references to sprite comics have been removed repeatedly. I didn't mean any particular offense or anything, so I apologize if I came across as rude. It's just, there are so many sprite-based webcomics out there that it's really impossible to say that the Stinkocomic is a direct reference to any one in particular. (Heck, *I* once attempted a sprite comic, using Chrono Trigger graphics; it got nowhere, but nevertheless.) The only way such a fact is truly "valid" is if we take the route of the "Jeeves" fact, noting more about its origin and the trend, rather than saying it's an out and out reference to one comic that TBC may or may not have heard of. -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:What exactly is a reference? The problem is that people seem to be having trouble distinguishing between references and coincidences, with some users overzealously adding real-world references based on slight similarities, and other equally zealous users deleting real-world references that are anything less than completely obvious. And then there are people to represent every spot in between. The problem is that "reference" isn't clearly defined as it pertains to the wiki, so people just use their own personal definition, and don't realize that other people's definitions may be different. I'm trying to start discussion on the issue over at [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#Standards_for_Real-World_References]], hoping that people will realize why people seem to disagree so much on RWRs, and maybe find some common ground.--[[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 23:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::YK: I had intended for that 8-Bit Theater reference to indicate that 8-Bit Theater started the trend, not necessarily to say that it was the only such comic that this email could be referencing. It probably would have been better worded as "The sprite comic parodies the genre of sprite-based web comics that began with 8-Bit Theater", similar to how Penny-Arcade is being used as a starting point for that particular genre. Make more sense that way? (And I still maintain that the same is true of Saturday Morning Cartoons - ''Pac-Man'' started that genre.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh, I agree. I actually changed the fact to reflect that yesterday (but it got removed by someone else, due to a similar one being in Explanations), though there seems to be some conflict over whether Bob and George (which I've never heard of, though that's irrelevant) or 8-Bit Theater came first. And I agree about the Saturday Morning Cartoons bit, especially Pac-Man; though where people are getting a connection to Captain N, Super Mario Bros., or the Legend of Zelda toons, I don't know. See my above rant. -{{User:YK/sig}} 17:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Captain N, SMB, Zelda, etc., are all in the same category as Pac-Man - they're just video-game-based cartoons with similar plot/character alterations. Almost all SatAm cartoons that were based on games introduced new characters and plotlines that really have nothing to do with the games themselves, but generally, the more complex the game, the less alteration happened in the cartoon. Pac-Man is *really* simple, so it would make for a really boring cartoon without adding some villains and sidekicks, and plots for global domination and all that. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well, as I said above, I see those as in a different catagory, because at the least, SMB, Zelda, and the others had some existing characters, a world, and a backstory to work with. Secret Collect, however, is more reminiscent of the cartoons such as Pac-Man that built an entire world out of a plotless, no characterization, one-screen arcade game. I get what you're saying, but to link Secret Collect to the SMB and Zelda cartoons just because they're "based on video games" is like comparing the Statue of Liberty to a Picasso painting because "they're both art". Same, but different. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not apologizing for my "elves" quip. It ''is'' patently ridiculous to think that 8-Bit Theater was the first webcomic to ever reference elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:That doesn't mean you have to be rude about it. The guy's comment was a bit misguided, yes, but there are far better ways to respond to that. I personally would have been rather offended had that been me you were replying to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::Seriously, folks, snappy answers to stupid questions and the like work well in MAD magazine, but are a real turn-off and annoyance when dealing with real people. There's just no reason for them. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Saturday Morning Cartoon Collect! ==
:''The Secret Collect Saturday morning cartoon is a reference to various cartoons produced in the 1980s that were based on video games. Most of these cartoons introduced new characters and deviated significantly from the plots or spirit of the games they were based on.''

This was another STUFF that was not brought to the talk page first. In the interest of encouraging discussion, I am moving it here so we can talk about it and hopefully not have to resort to a vote. There were two arguments for its inclusion:
<blockquote>
#The point of this FF is not to reference specific cartoons, but rather the entire genre of video-game licensed cartoons, most of which deviated significantly from the plot or spirit of the games they were based on.
#This isn't really "explaining the joke", since newer viewers unfamiliar with those old cartoons are unlikely to understand why the joke is funny.
</blockquote>

There were also several comments:
<blockquote>
*Variants of the proposed fact also reference ''Legend of Zelda'' and ''Captain N''. In the first revision of this FF, I used ''Pac-Man'' as a notable example because it enjoyed widespread popularity, mainly due to the game's own popularity in North America.
*Without referencing any/all specific video game cartoons, this may be more appropriate as a "Remark" rather than a "Real World Reference".
</blockquote>

Both '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' and '''[[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]''' indicated that they supported keeping the fact and were responsible for the above arguments and comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:<s>With all due respect, why do we still have a STUFF process if we're not going to use it? (Expanding on this) My understanding was that STUFF came about because the previous process, discussing Fun Facts on Talk pages, was cumbersome, difficult to manage, and people weren't taking it seriously. I'd really like to see us avoid falling back into that. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</s> Nevermind - I'm a bit grouchy at the moment and shouldn't be taking it out on everyone here. Move along. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::OK, now my opinion. If the fact is worded so that it refers to the genre, rather than trying to make a claim to it referring to a specific show, it's probably good. Some people may not know this (especially readers born after the 80s), so it may be worth noting it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::I have no problem with the fact if it's phrased in the way Heimstern suggests. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, using ''Pac-Man'' as an example would be appropriate since it was the first cartoon show to be entirely based on a video game. The other shows that have been referenced so far came significantly later. Since we have a Penny-Arcade reference that deals with Penny-Arcade "and its imitators", and I believe a similar one about 8-Bit Theater would be appropriate since it started the sprite-based comic genre, I think it would be appropriate to mention that Pac-Man started the video-game cartoon genre. For consistency's sake, mainly. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm sure readers born after the 80s will get the joke, seeing that there's still cartoons based on video games. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I disagree. For one, today's game-cartoons are based on the actual plotlines of the games themselves, at least to a much greater extent than those of the early 80s. Today's games usually have much more in-depth plots that the cartoons either help to explain or expound upon, but the 80s cartoons had to create their plots and character sets outside of the games, or else there wouldn't have been anything to make a cartoon out of. The Secret Collect toon very obviously references the latter situation.

:::::The last notable example I can think of where a game-based cartoon deviated significantly from the game was the first Sonic the Hedgehog series, which introduced a team of "freedom fighters" and a more established universe that made the plot more believable. Even then, though, that cartoon had a much stronger connection to the game than, say, Pac-Man did. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Problem Is... ==

There are too many gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs (and elves?) editing this Wiki. And everyone fighting for their favorites, it seems. Thus the constant adding, removing and changing of so-called references. Are they references? I don't care anymore. And I don't see any end to it. Months from now, new people will come across the Wiki and go, "Hey, how did everyone miss this? This is a reference to cartoons like Pac-Man and Captain N and Zelda and Super Mario Bros and Sonic and Mega Man and Saturday Supercade." And that'll get reverted. Then someone'll see that and add back just the portions of the post ''they'' agreed with, and that'll get reverted, etc., and we'll all have a jolly time sorting through the mess. Yee haw. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Well, to be fair, I think we can be a bit more optimistic than that. I hope I'm not foolish for thinking so. ;-) Anyway, though, I do think this will let up a bit after the email is less new. It's true that an email like this does lend itself to a lot of attempts to draw references, but even here, I think it will pass. For example, rarely do we get a new reference added to [[virus]], which was the email that inspired the STUFF process because of how many references people added. So, just give it some years, and it probably will fix itself! But in the meantime, it's important that we just have good, productive talk page discussions here to try to come to consensus on what is or isn't a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::To my knowledge, no one has added fact explaining what Burn & Dodge: The Fantasy Photoshop Gradient Comic is a reference to. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

==Decades for Saturday Morning Cartoons==

I was the one who added 1990s. I believe various video game based cartoons were also on television in the 1990s as well, and some debuted in the 1990s. A prime example is Super Mario World. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 16:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:But the cartoons depicted weren't referring to the more well-made video game toons of the 90s and later. They were referring to the 80s trend of taking arcade games with no in-game story/characterization and developing an entire cartoon around them, with the only actual connection being the name and the main character. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

==MS Paint==

I think MS Paint refers to Microsoft Paint. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:*Yes, I'd say so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::*At the risk of sounding as sarcastic as the people I was criticizing earlier, does MS Paint ever really refer to anything else? Unlike something that happened in the early 80s, I think MS Paint is such a directly stated and obvious reference that it doesn't need to be restated in the RWR section. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I noticed the airbrush feature on the mixed-up comic, which is a total trademark of Paint. Also, just the overall custom work looks like it was done in paint. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

::::Mentions of MSPaint are not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

::::The "airbrush" feature in that program is also available in hundreds of other paint programs. There's nothing special about it, and I would even argue that it's not anything resembling a "trademark" of MS Paint. Paint is about the most basic paint program around, and about the only thing that makes it a better candidate than any other paint program for mention in this email is the fact that it's as ubiquitous as Windows itself. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I agree that it's not notable, just as "Mountain Dew" is not notable as a RWR for the e-mails it appears in. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::All this said, if it turns out that they start using MS Paint frequently in future toons and emails, we can always start a [[running gag]] page about it. THEN it would be more appropriate to mention where the program comes from. (We already have a [[Mountain Dew]] page.) But this won't be the case until and unless we see an actual running joke from TBC about this program, and I have my doubts that they'll do so. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Screenshots==
How do you get the screenshots of the site like the one on the info page of Strong Bad and The Cheat looking at "Knowingest J. Drawbridges"? Do you have to have Flash? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:No. Just the print screen button on the keyboard and an image editing program. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::For more detailed help on that, check out [http://www.neopets.com/~ScreenieHelp this site]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Or even [[Help:Image#How to take a screenshot|our own section on the subject]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== I wish I knew what that means ==

Should we include explanations of all the techno-geek stuff the GamerJōx guys mention? I suppose I could do a quick Wikipedia search to find out what they're saying, but since I am not well versed in h4xx0r lingo, I really wouldn't know what I would be talking about. But is it even notable enough to deserve an explanation? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh, I bet most of the stuff T3h Br0s didn't even know what they were talking about. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was thinking that these items deserved a brief mention, with links to the relevant Wikipedia articles where such could be found. Want me to write that up? I understand all of the terminology. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

:::On further research, I discovered that ALL of the technobabble referred to the PS3's specifications. Basically, that last panel was just devoted to describing the PS3 in an overly technical way. I organized the explanations as such. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Rubik the Amazing Cube ==

Secret Collect is obviously Rubik the Amazing Cube, its the only saturday morning cartoon that I can remember that had a cube a boy and an evil magician, checkout wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%2C_the_Amazing_Cube]. I understand that there were many video game cartoons on saturday morning but this is definately Rubik. [[http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0798/1.jpg]] Also if you want the intro video you can see it here on youtube [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs_GCy9PRk]]--[[User:Xhadow|Xhadow]] 06:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

:It's possible they took some inspiration from that cartoon, but the reference is more closely linked to Pac-Man (at least, that's how it appears to me) because of the video-game tie-in. Many cartoons of the period introduced evil wizards and villains, and as stated in the fun fact, the reference is a spoof of the whole genre anyway. As such, we want to avoid getting back into TTATOT territory (say THAT 3 times fast!), so I think it's best to leave Pac-Man there as the well-known example of the genre, both because it started the genre and because it's likely the best-known of them. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== A comic about nothing (except games) ===
{{stufffact|The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the webcomic [[Wikipedia:Penny Arcade (webcomic)|Penny Arcade]].}}
{{stuffverdict|20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)|02:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|23|5|web comics}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== All I ever wanted was to be your spine ===
{{stufffact|"Web in Front" is a song by North Carolina-based indie rock band [[Wikipedia:Archers of Loaf|Archers of Loaf]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)|20:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)|swiftly and unanimously accepted|10|0|web comics}}

== did I err? ==

the "photoshop gradient" comic kind of seems like the musle warrior dude of boring (really). legit reference or odd coincedince?

Talk:lady fan

Sompm — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:05:57 GMT

Sompm: /**/pecs or pants?

==Transcribing==

Is anyone trying to do the transcript right now? Cause if you thought I was going to do it, you're wrong. Stupid Flash player that I desperately need to get... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Figures, I had time, thought you were going to do it, then I go to my next class where the computers don't have speakers and I find out I could've written the transcript.... can this wait like, 3 hours or so? I can get it then -[[User:StrongBaditude]]

==Does Strong Bad look odd==
His arms seem lower and his gloves seems bigger to me. Am I going mad, or has he been slightly redesigned? [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 16:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:Looks the same to me, but I'm mainly showing off the new siggy. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah...I kinda noticed something wrong with his arms, and I think that is it.
They seem to be slightly lower and more to his side/behind him.
::His boots look different too. This should be added to the character evolution page.

[[image:Strongbadchange2.png]] [[User:Nicko9y|Nicko9y]] 02:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

This isn't a new design! That's the sixth design (see the evolution page). {{User:Eman/sig}}
: Not quite. The shading on the shoes is similar (more so to either one than design 7) but different. The arm lengths are completely different. His head is also larger in proportion in design 8. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Why would they go back and use an older design? [[User:Nicko9y|Nicko9y]] 00:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

==Email, eh?==

Hmmm... That's surprising. I was expecting the special Flashforward intro cartoon... Perhaps they're going to save it for a week or two... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:Or they'll just keep it to themselves for an undisclosed amount of time, like a ton of other stuff they don't release on the site. Maybe if we're lucky they'll put it, or portions of it, on the DVD. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

==My first transcript==
Three cheers for my first transcript! Hooray! Seriously though, I left out a whole lot of stuff. People should verify that my dialogue is accurate, check for spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors, and add details that I wasn't able to. This was basically an audio dump plus what I could remember from the toon so it's like written from my doodle memory.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:30, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

:Horray! You done a great JAEORB!!!! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:43, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

::Woo-hoo! Congraturations! 'tis be great! 6 March 2006

==Early==
This email came out really early! I'm not sure what time zone they're in, but I'm in Central and it can't be that much of a difference. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 16:49, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

:Im also in Central and it did come out really early

:Georgia is EST. I don't know exactly when it went on the site, but the Wiki page went up about 9:30 their time. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Man you guys are lucky, here in new zealand H*R updates every tuesday! [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]]
8:11, 7 march 2006

== It's Dot Matrix ==

An explanation of my (reverted) removal of the fact that The Printer is apparently dot matrix is in order. It's Dot Com, you're absolutely right. The printer that The Paper comes from is obviously a dot matrix. That's a very distinctive sound, and the appearance of the font clinches it. But my point is that the fact has nothing to do with ''this'' toon. We've known for years that it's a dot matrix. There's no new evidence presented by this picture of the printer.

On the other hand, if someone could find a specific ''model'' of printer that this new picture is based on, that would be noteworthy. But I've tried. As I expected, it resembles slightly every home-computer printer made in the mid-to-late-1980s, and resembles none of them exactly. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:34, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

:"what appears to be an [http://skylab.org/~chugga/pictures/forsale/epson.JPG Epson L-1000] [[Wikipedia:Dot matrix printer|dot matrix printer]]. The first time The Paper appeared out of a printer was in [[Email Processing Room]]."

:I'd say it more closely resembles an Epson [http://www.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~hccrs/2B.GIF LX-800]. The cartoon printer does not have the smoked-translucent-plastic window that the L-1000 has.

== Horse twees ==

You all know what that would mean, right? TBC are getting a little ''outside'' the okay zone. You following me? good. -[[User:Homfrog|Homfrog, not logged in]] 21:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:See [[Crap]] - they've been doing that since the site was first launched. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Technically, all she said was that he was a horse's bum. Any profanity would be purely speculation ;)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== Tejas ==

I'm kinda on the fence about the Tejas fact. On one hand, I agree that it should be mentioned that Strong Bad has pronounced "Texas" as "TEH-hahs" in the past, and the writer of the email may be directly referencing that. BUT: I think it's also important that people understand that "TEH-hahs" is not uniquely Strong Bad's pronunciation, but rather how "Texas" is pronounced in Spanish. The letters "x" and "j" have the same pronunciation in Spanish. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:I also wanted to point out that here in Tejas, it's also ''spelled'' that way too on a lot of Spanish-language literature. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== My bad ==
REMARKS:

*The caption "loose weight?" may be a reference to a common misspelling of the word "lose", altered from the more common "lose weight!" caption.

You know it's true. So quit cutting it!

:We're not arguing that it's false. But it is extremely obvious, and we don't note such obvious things as Fun Facts. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0740746588/qid=1141696880/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-9430647-7792612?s=books&v=glance&n=283155 It's not funny if we have to explain it]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Another common adage you'll see here on the wiki is: "That's the joke." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

But the fact that it's a "common" misspelling of the word "lose" means that there's a lot of people out there who won't get the joke. It'd be good to put that down here for those people.

== A fantastic stretch ==
:''"The [[Wikipedia:Iron Sheik|Iron Sheik]] is a wrestler, and a former [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Federation|WWF]] [[Wikipedia:List_of_WWE_Champions|Champion]] in the 1980s. Homestar's reference may be due to the similarity between the sound of the words Iron Sheik and 'Iron cheek', which in turn could be reinterpreted as Buns of Steel, the name of a series of workout videotapes."''
I'm posting that here on the talk page so that I never forget it. I mean, I've seen some incredible stretches before, but I gotta say this one takes the cake. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:Such persistence in re-adding it, as well. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:: It's a stretch, no argument, but I don't think it's ''that'' bad. I've seen much worse. At least IMHO. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I actually thought that the "sheik" ~ "cheek" part was an intended pun. Though I do agree about the extension to Buns of Steel... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Marzi Stewart? ==

Should we add that Marzipan's crafts are probably modeled after Martha Stewart? I think they are. Is that too obvious, not obvious enough...?[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
*It's TTATOT. They're based on numerous craft how to shows. Martha Stewart would probably be the best known, but there are really so many that you'd have to have something more specific to call it a reference to Martha Stewart (For instance, Martha Stewart actually made something out of junk mail and kitty litter, or actually called her scissors "snip-snipperouskis"). As far as referencing how-to shows similar to Martha Stewart: Living, I think it's a bit too obvious to be worth mentioning. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]

== It's Dot Benday ==

Strong Bad's comic strip does indeed use [[Wikipedia:Benday dots|Benday dots]]. (Well, at least some overlay effect that's clearly supposed to ''look'' like Benday dots.) Benday dots are indeed the trademark of artist [[Wikipedia:Roy Lichtenstein]]. However, there's no clear connection between Lichtenstein and this toon. They're both referencing the same source, which is inexpensively printed and melodramatic color comic books/strips. Lichtenstein's only known for the technique because he exaggerated it and introduced it to high art. It had already been in use for decades. As for mentioning the Benday dots themselves, I don't see the point. Any artist trying to evoke a comic strip feel would be likely to use a similar effect. Note that they did it before on [[The Castlefunnies]] in [[old comics]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 07:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'm copying your argument over to the [[Template:STUFF/lady fan#Ned Lichtensteinerson|STUFF page]]... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== end bracket ==

Does anyone think that it is significant there is the <code>]</code> symbol before the back button? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:It's always been there, it's the prompt on the Lappy - same as <code>a></code> on the Compy and Tandy. It's probably only noticible since it's not on the screen. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

::Did I sniff out my first goof?!?! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:55, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Nah, they've [[invisibility|done it like that before]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

==Yoga DVD==

I could've sworn I heard "slip" or something in that sentence, not buy. But I guess they changed it.
:They didn't change it. The caption and the voice always said "buy". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Obligated By Law? ==

I thought it was interesting how SB is "obligated by law" to do anything that people ask him. Could this be a reference to [[sb_email_22]]? --[[User:ArgentAngel|ArgentAngel]] 04:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:I think that's just him being his sarcastic self. Besides, 22 was the British, so why would he be subject to their law? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Snip-sniparooskies ==

I was tempted to add a Goof about Marzipan's snip-sniparooskies behaving like [[Wikipedia:pinking shears|pinking shears]] while being called scissors. (Note that they make a "crinkle cut" without her having to turn the paper or the scissors.) Then I noticed that Wikipedia defines pinking shears as a type of scissors. This doesn't agree with my experience where pinking shears and scissors are two different (albeit closely related) tools. Anyone got any feelings on this subject? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:Remember that Wikipedia isn't always right - in fact, it's frequently not. If you have strong evidence that the WP article is wrong, you should feel free to go and correct it there. This is especially true if you want to use WP as a reference here.
:That said, I'm not sure this is all that noteworthy in this case. Those may be pinking shears, but I think in a more general sense anything that acts like a pair of scissors (regardless of type of cut) can be called a form of scissors - at least, that's how I'd expect most people think of it, whether it's technically correct or not. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::WP is not always right?? *gasp!* My world is crashing down! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>gasp!* Dot com's world is falling on my breakfast buritto! The poor, defenseless, tasty breakfast! I hardly knew ye... (OK, this is getting extremely off topic.) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== There's an Iowa kind... ==

Do we really need the Des Moines fact? It seems extremely obvious, as it's the state capitol and all. If it was just a small town or something, I could see the need... [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

homestarrunner.com has a lot of fans outside of the US who wouldn't know their US state capitals.

As an Iowa native, I have to let you know that by most US standards, Des Moines isn't really that big: its population is only 200,000, so some could consider it a small town. :P --[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 13:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== Song... ==
does the music playing with HOmestar sound alot like i think i have a chance with this guy...or is it just me?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 13:54, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:It has the same drum beat, but nothing else. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== How does SB get up? ==

After SB fails to do a two-handed push up, how is he able to get up from the prone position? It's pretty fast, but it looks like he effectively pushes himself up to a standing pose...

I know, who cares, etc. Just struck me as odd.

:I looked into this, and if you slow those five frames down, you see that he actually uses his knees to get up. Here's that clip, twelve times slower than what you'd normally see:

[[Image:SB pushup.gif|Strong Bad does not actually do any pushups|center]]

== Twees ==

Homestars speech inpediment (sp) makes Rs Ws, wight? In dictionarydotcom one of the definition of "Trees" was to force into a difficult position; corner. Fun Fact? --[[User:62.254.32.18|62.254.32.18]] 22:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking that's a bit of a stretch here. There are several points in the email where "Twees" has something to do with "butt". Also, if I'm not mistaken, the "Trees" you refer to up there is still pronounced the same as the plural of "tree" (treez, not treess), so the words don't match up. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 02:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==
{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Office Space redux ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad saying, "I'm gonna go ahead and need you to..." is a play on the catchphrase of boss Bill Lumbergh from the film [[Office Space]].}}
{{stuffverdict|17:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)|20:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)|accepted|16|9|lady fan}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== I'm legally required to STUFF this ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad says in this email that he is "legally required" to do anything asked of him in a "stupid email", whereas in [[sibbie]] he said "I'm not here to fulfill your every freakin' whim!"}}
{{stuffverdict|00:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)|22:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted as revised|22|1|lady fan}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The case of the missing stand ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's glue gun is missing a stand to hold it in its position.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)|04:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|19|6|lady fan}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ned Lichtensteinerson ===
{{stufffact|The pattern of dots on Strong Bad's comic simulates [[Wikipedia:Benday Dots|Benday dots]]. This technique is also used in [[The Castlefunnies]] (featured in [[old comics]]).}}
{{stuffverdict|07:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)|22:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|20|1|lady fan}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Dry The Cheat ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat being washed in the dryer instead of taking a normal bath is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Calvin and Hobbes|Calvin and Hobbes]], in which Hobbes is also washed in a clothes washer and dryer.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)|00:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)|swiftly and overwhelmingly declined|20|5|lady fan}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== PikaCheat, I choose you! ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat electrocuting Strong Bad is a possible reference to the [[Wikipedia:Pokémon|Pokémon]] [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|Pikachu]], whom The Cheat resembles.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)|00:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)|declined like there's no tomorrow|26|2|lady fan}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Twees vs. Preowww ===
{{stufffact|This is another appearance of [[Preeeeow]], the [[Wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|onomatopoeia]] describing The Paper's sound effect.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)|00:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|28|4|lady fan}}

== Sick/Green The Cheat ==
[[Image:Sick cheat.PNG|thumb|Sick The Cheat]]
Can someone please upload an image of a sick/green The Cheat, you know when he was about to puke? I don't know how to upload images and make images appear that good, like each page has. [[User:65.6.12.248|65.6.12.248]] 19:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
:Done'd. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::Whatcha need it for? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: Thanks, Has Matt?. DorianGray, I just thought it would be good to have, because the picture is funny.[[User:65.6.12.248|65.6.12.248]] 20:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I guess we can put it on [[The Cheat Other Costumes]]... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Shoulder stance ==

This may be a strech, but twees it, twees it shoulder stance could be a refrence to martial arts, where many different arts have a stance called shoulder stance.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 11:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

==Iron Sheik's physique==

--"The Iron Sheik also has a physique closely resembling Strong Bad's."--
What does that mean? Do they resemble each other? Does this Sheik character have a small round body and a giant head? Do they dress alike? I apologize if it seems like a stupid question, but I am not a fan of wrestling. It just seems like a weird claim to me. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== Looking all fluffy and cute~ ==

Can someone please upload a few screen shots of The Cheat in "Lady Fan" when he's revealed in the drier looking all fluffy and cute and also when he's sparking with electricity?

Thanks^^

[[:Image:Electrical_Dryer.PNG|Here's one.]] [[:Image:Fuzzy thecheat.PNG|And the other.]] Already been uploaded for a whiles. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Not-so-tidy Cat ==

I wonder if Cat Mess brand cat litter could be a play on the popular [http://www.tidycats.com Tidy Cats] brand of cat litter. Matt would probably [[:Image:sbemail51.png|be familiar with]] cat litter brands. Just a thought. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== pecs or pants? ==

in the script it says "flex your pecs" but I'm pretty freakin' sure I heard "pants". can I get another ear in here? [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 23:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Pants

Sompm — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:05:36 GMT

Sompm: lady fan

{{about-nothe|pants in general}} {{for|[[running gag]] about whether Homestar Runner wears pants|Homestar Runner's Pants}}
[[Image:pantsburg.PNG|thumb|Fabulous Downtown Pantsburg]]
Very few of [[Free Country, USA]]'s [[Characters|residents]] actually wear '''pants''', as shown in [[senior prom]]: when Strong Bad's plan to poof away everybody's pants backfires he realizes that he's "the only one that wears any pants". Most notably, it is an ongoing mystery as to whether or not [[Homestar Runner's Pants|Homestar Runner wears them]]. Given the relaxed nature of Free Country's social expectations concerning pants, it is surprising that Homestar and his friends discuss them with great frequency — the subject of pants is an unending source of humor for them.

==Coach Z's References to Pants==
Pants-related jokes are especially popular with [[Coach Z]]: 

*Email '''[[super powers]]''' — Coach Z and Homestar attempt to discuss tight pants.
*Email '''[[lunch special]]''' — Coach Z orders a basket of double hot wings "pants down".
*Email '''[[secret recipes]]''' — After discovering he'd just eaten a bunch of [[The Cheat]] fur, Coach Z says he's about to "puke [his] pants". Strong Bad flees before he describes the process.
*Email '''[[rock opera]]''' — Coach Z provides the word "pants" as part of the line "double pants" in the rock opera.
*'''[[A Folky Tale]]''' — Coach Z tells [[Strong Sad]] to "cram a little oom-pah down your pants" in an effort to get him to climb a rope.
*Email '''[[alternate universe]]''' (Easter egg) — Coach Z, while holding a pear covered in [[Googly-eyed Objects|googly eyes]] and with coffee continually streaming down his [[Lack of Visible Arms#Coach Z's Face|mouthless face]], tells Homestar he is "not at liberty to discuss what [he] just did in [his] pants."

==Other Pants==
Other characters also enjoy a pants-related joke from time to time:

*'''[[Fortune Cookies]]''' — One of the fortunes reads "Clumsiness will bring about a change of pants."
*'''[[That A Ghost]]''' — [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] claims he will be "marching around in [[gold]] pants in no time!" Later, as a skeleton, he complains that he will "never find gold pants that fit this tiny waist!"
*'''[[Hallrunner]]''' — One of the objects you encounter is a rabid dog that "bites the butt off your pants. Like in cartoons."
*'''[[Peasant's Quest]]''' — The narrator of the [[Peasant's Quest Preview]] and [[Peasant's Quest Trailer|movie trailer]], as well as other characters, make frequent references to [[Rather Dashing]]'s short pants.
**Another reference to these short pants appears at the beginning of the email [[for kids]].
*Email '''[[stand-up]]''' — Strong Sad shows us a video in which [[Lil' Strong Bad]]'s pants fall down while he's on stage.
*Email '''[[vacation]]''' — One of the places [[Strong Bad]] visits is "[[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|Fabulous Downtown Pantsburg]]". Also, in Strong Bad's imaginary email that he recites, [[Monkey D]] asks how Homestar can pick things up if he's not wearing "Marzi-pants" (a variation on the infamous "[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]" and Homestar's [[lack of visible arms]]).
*Email '''[[funny]]''' — In an effort to be funny, Strong Bad says he has "squeaky pants".
*Email '''[[haircut]]''' — Strong Bad calls one of his designs for [[Strong Mad]]'s eyebrows "Hammer Pants".
*Email '''[[local news]]''' — Summarizing the weather report, Strong Bad says "Bundle up, but keep your swimsuit on outside your pants."
*Email '''[[bottom 10]]''' — Homestar sings "Buttdance again! Like the rhythm's down your pants now!", causing Strong Bad to vomit on his keyboard.
*Email '''[[portrait]]''' — A portion of a [[News Articles|newspaper article]] near one of Strong Bad's portraits reads "Wipe hands on pants, yo".
*Email '''[[candy product]]''' — Strong Bad's [[SBLOUNSKCHED! bar]] resembles his own pants.
*Email '''[[highschool]]''' — According to Strong Bad's "doodle memory", one of the things he and Strong Mad do in high school is try to liberate or emancipate Homestar from his ridiculous striped pants.
*Email '''[[alternate universe]]''' — As Strong Bad is warped around the multiverse by Homestar, he meets his high school counterpart who says "striped pants".
*Email '''[[senior prom]]''' — Strong Bad crashes the prom and threatens to "poof away" everyone's pants in a massive pantsing, but then realizes he is the only one there who is wearing pants. His pants poof away, leaving him standing in a pair of boxer shorts. (Homestar, who claims to wear [[long pants]], is not affected, but later claims he was.)
*Email '''[[strong badathlon]]''' — After being disqualified from the Remote Put, Strong Bad says to check the East German's pants.
*Email '''[[unnatural]]''' — Homestar, convinced Bubs has turned all the other citizens of Free Country, USA into ants, suggests the group go jump in somebody's pants.
*'''[[Commandos in the Classroom]]''' — [[Blue Laser Minion]]s tell [[Fightgar]] to stuff wine coolers down his pants, but quickly change the request from pants to headband upon realizing he doesn't wear them.
*'''[[An Important Rap Song]]''' — [[Gunhaver]] tells [[Blue Laser Commander]] to put his pants back on, to which the Commander replies, "How could you ''possibly'' refer to these as ''PANTS''?!"
*Email '''[[rough copy]]''' — Strong Bad threatens to literally sue the pants off Malinko for drawing comics about himself and The Cheat.
*'''[[DNA Evidence]]''' — [[Homsar]] says, "Aaaaaaaaa! These Easter pants are getting way too tight!"
*'''[[Ever and More!]]''' — Bubs mentions that he's always grouchy because he hasn't been able to wear his lucky pants for over 10 years.
*'''[[Main Page 24]]''' — Strong Bad searches for his pants, which Strong Sad has.
*Email '''[[the chair]]''' — [[Le Restige]] has a sweatpants button.
*Email '''[[hygiene]]''' — Part two of [[Embarrassing Educational Films]] covers "Pants Problems".
*'''[[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]]''' — A line from the song "Because it's Midnite" mentions pants.
*Email'''[[lady fan]]''' — Homestar says "flex those pants" during the twees routine

==See also==
*[[Homestar Runner's Pants]]

[[Category:Clothing running gags]]

lady fan

Sompm — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:03:27 GMT

Sompm: pants reference

{{sbenav|147}}
[[Image:Sbemail147.PNG|thumb|"Twees it out!"]]

Strong Bad tries to impress an emailer's new lady fan.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]], [[Marzipan's House]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 6, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:30

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' How many emails can you check? Five. Twelve. Seven. Shut up.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: extra cool</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
My new lady fan does not like you so much. Should I 
just call it quits now or can you do something extra special 
cool to impress her? 
Buck Webb 
Houston, Tejas
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Houston" as "Hooston".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Buck Webb? You sound like one of those boring soap-opera comic strips from the, ''{stops typing}'' quote-un-quote, ''{resumes typing}'' "funny" pages.

''{An example of a boring soap-opera comic pops up. It is titled "Buck Webb, Extraordinaire". Music begins playing. When characters talk, speech balloons appear.}''

'''BUCK:''' I'm afraid it's Splitsville for us, Lady Fan... if you don't take a shine to Strong Bad!

'''LADY FAN:''' ''{drippy speech balloon}'' Oh, Buck...

''{Cut to the next panel. Lady fan is holding a pistol up to Buck.}''

'''LADY FAN:''' I'll give Strong Bad a chance. In fact...

''{Cut to next panel, of a turtle in a pool, with the caption "Sea turtles eat a wide variety of food".}''

'''LADY FAN:''' ... I think I'm falling for him. Like, big time.

'''BUCK:''' C'mon, baby. Stay with me.

''{Next panel. Buck is holding a yoga DVD.}''

'''BUCK:''' I'll buy you a new yoga DVD!!

''{Next panel. Lady fan is crying and there is a caption "Back in Des Moines..."}''

'''LADY FAN:''' I'll... think about it!!!!

''{Cut away from the comic. The Lappy's screen has been cleared.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' We both know who she's gonna choose, Buck. Is that what you want? But hey, you asked for it. And as you know, when people send me stupid emails, I'm obligated by law to do what they say. So, extra special cool coming right up!

''{Cut to a gymnasium.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nothing's more E-S-C than one-handed push-ups. Coupla these bad boys oughta do the trick! Here-a I-a go-a!

''{Strong Bad attempts to do a one-handed push-up, but falls down. The scoreboard buzzes and turns to -1.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, did I say "one-handed push-ups"? Those things are lame. Real men play two-handed push-ups! We'll start with fifty and see how we feel. Here-sa I-sa go-sa!

''{Strong Bad attempts to do a two-handed push up. Beads of sweat appear on his forehead, but he is unable to lift himself off the ground. The scoreboard buzzes and turns to -51.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I can't do ONE push up?! I used to be able to do, like, four. Maybe I need to start workin' out.

''{Homestar Runner appears dressed as an aerobics instructor, wearing a leotard and legwarmers.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Boy, I'll say you do. One, two, and flex your pecs! Give it eight more! And five! Twees it out! C'mon y'all! Just twees it out!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Twees it out?

''{Homestar turns around to show Strong Bad his rear. Strong Bad looks away and blocks the image with his hand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Your buttweessimo! We're gonna mold that twees into the Iron Sheik!

''{Homestar looks toward Strong Bad's "twees". Strong Bad replies by covering it with both hands.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just six more now! Eight and four! Shake it freely, twees it out!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, cool. I'm gonna go ahead and need you to never say "twees it out" ever again.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're doing great! Now shoulders down! One and two. ''{The rest of this line is very quiet and said under Strong Bad's next line.}'' Feel the burn and go to bed! Make some breakfast, talk to me!

''{Strong Bad walks towards the viewer. Homestar continues to stretch in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What'll really impress your lady fan is a cute, fluffy The Cheat—

''{Scene changes to the laundry room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Fresh from the dryer!

''{Strong Bad opens the dryer, revealing a fluffy The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awww, look at him! All cottony soft...

''{Strong Bad tries to pick up The Cheat but is shocked by static electricity.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' AHHHH! Jeez, use a dryer sheet, man.

''{The Cheat starts turning green and his The Cheat noises turn queasy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh oh, this is not looking extra special cool.

''{Strong Bad closes the dryer door just as The Cheat throws up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Don't worry, little buddy. We'll just throw you back in the wash.

''{Some vomit runs out the corner of the dryer door. Homestar returns, still in his work-out uniform.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Back in the wash. Come on, come on! Twees it, twees it, zabaladoo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get it out of here, Wretched Simmons! I'm trying to get some girl to like some guy I don't know!

''{Homestar bobs up and down twice more. Scene changes to Strong Bad and Marzipan sitting at a table with a "CAT MESS" kitty litter bag, pie pan with some kitty litter in it, a glue gun, envelopes, and scissors.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' One thing I definitely know about lady fans is that they all like crappy arts and crafts projects.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Today we're going to make a really creative centerpiece out of junk mail and kitty litter.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Sounds heavenly...

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{picks up an envelope and begins to cut it with the scissors}'' Now first of all I want you to take your snip-sniparooskies-- and that's what we call our scissors...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping, uninterested}'' Uh-huh...

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{cut to a closeup of the envelope}'' ...and then just a little crinkle cut right here on the northern edge...

''{Strong Bad knocks the envelope and scissors to the table. Cut back to wide shot. Marzipan becomes angry at Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' UGH! Never mind! What the lady fans really want is some ''{high-pitched echo-y screaming}'' PYROTECHNICS!!!

''{Strong Bad throws the BMW Lighter onto the table, causing multiple explosions that turn everything to ashes, including Marzipan's hair. The ashen remains of the "CAT MESS" bag collapse.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, you're a horse's twees.

''{The remains of the glue gun collapse as well. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' There you have it, Buck. Oh wait...

''{Changes to comic strip version of Strong Bad talking to Buck.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There you have it, Buck! If that floozy's not all up ons after that, you gotta drop her like a trig class, see??!!??!

''{Next panel, solo shot of Buck.}''

'''BUCK:''' Tight, Strong Bad. Real tight.

''{Next panel, silhouettes of Strong Bad and Buck looking at work-out Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's right. Keep that twees real tight. Flex it, flex it, shoulder stance.

''{Next panel, a comic book version of [[The Paper]]. The Paper noise is heard. A caption reads "PREEEOW!!"}''

==Easter Eggs==

*Click the scoreboard after Strong Bad calls one-handed push-ups lame to see a blue bumper sticker that says "Real Men Play ''Two Handed'' Push-ups!!" with a small image of a soccer ball in the corner.
*At the end, click on the printer's green button to see Homestar's weight-loss DVD, titled "Tweesercize". The box reads:
<pre>
Tweesercize with Homestar Runner
Loose weight?
6 minutes long!!!
</pre>

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*[[Wikipedia:Des Moines|Des Moines]] is the capital of [[Wikipedia:Iowa|Iowa]].
*Strong Bad's opening intro is similar to one of the many songs schoolgirls often chant while jumping rope.
*"Tejas" ("TEH-has") is an accepted Spanish spelling and pronunciation of [[Wikipedia:Texas|Texas]]. Strong Bad has also used this pronunciation facetiously in [[boring (really)]] and [[property of ones]].
*The pattern of dots on Strong Bad's comic simulates [[Wikipedia:Benday Dots|Benday dots]]. This technique is also used in [[The Castlefunnies]] (featured in [[old comics]]).
*"Trig" is short for [[Wikipedia:trigonometry|trigonometry]], a mathematics course.

===Remarks===

*Strong Bad says in this email that he is "obligated by law" to do anything asked of him in a "stupid email", whereas in [[sibbie]] he said "I'm not here to fulfill your every freakin' whim!"
*This is the first time we see Strong Bad perspire, thus giving us a better impression of his mask actually being more flesh-like.
*While Strong Bad may not be able to do push-ups, he was able to literally throw Homestar and [[The King of Town]] out of his house in [[secret identity]]. He was also able to knock Homestar senseless in [[car]] with what is assumed to be his off hand.
*This is another instance of The Paper not coming down normally, this time being shown coming out of what appears to be an [http://skylab.org/~chugga/pictures/forsale/epson.JPG Epson L-1000] [[Wikipedia:Dot matrix printer|dot matrix printer]]. The first time The Paper appeared out of a printer was in [[Email Processing Room]].
*The "1:00" part of the scoreboard doesn't have a screen - it just appears on the surface.
*The Gymnasium's mat is blue in this e-mail. However, in [[montage]], the mat was red. These may just be roll-out mats, and the different colors represent different purposes.

===Goofs===

*Marzipan's scissors (presumably [[Wikipedia:pinking shears|pinking shears]] due to the zigzag pattern cut in the envelope) do not close properly; their handles touch before the blades run past each other.

===Fixed Goofs===
*Nothing would happen when you clicked "Back" at the end. This has been fixed.

===Inside References===
*The score counter going negative refers to an Easter egg in [[montage]].
**Negative scores also happen to Strong Bad in [[for kids]]. At the beginning of the e-mail, he is playing [[Peasant's Quest]], in which he has a negative score.
*Strong Bad locking The Cheat in the dryer is a reference to [[2 years]].
*This is another appearance of the [[BMW Lighter]].
*The phrase "[[All up ons]]" originated in [[suntan]].
*This is another appearance of [[Preeeeow]], the [[onomatopoeia]] describing The Paper's sound effect.
*Homestar's "back in the wash" line mirrors his dance in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*Bubs mentioned his own "lady fans" in [[the process]].
*The music playing during Homestar's exercise video is the opening of [[i think i have a chance with this guy]] from [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
*The scores of -1 and -51 are [[Scoreboard#Irregular Scores|irregular scores]].
*Homestar says "flex those pants" wich is a reference to [[pants]]
===Real-World References===

*The soap-opera-type comic pokes fun at dramatic comics that are meant to be taken seriously. Common examples include [[Wikipedia:Mary Worth (comic)|Mary Worth]] and [[Wikipedia:Rex Morgan, M.D.|Rex Morgan, M.D.]], which are found in many newspaper comics pages.
**The panel with the [[Wikipedia:sea turtle|sea turtle]] is a reference to the drama/information comic strip [[Wikipedia:Mark Trail|Mark Trail]].
*The organ music that accompanies the comic hearkens back to the [[Wikipedia:Soap opera#"Soap music"|soundtracks]] of the radio and early television soap operas of the 1920s through the 1970s. They would almost always consist of a solo organ playing melodramatic mood music.
*Strong Bad saying, "I'm gonna go ahead and need you to..." is a play on the catchphrase of boss Bill Lumbergh from the film [[Office Space]].
*"Wretched Simmons" is a reference to fitness guru [[Wikipedia:Richard Simmons|Richard Simmons]].
*The [[Wikipedia:Iron Sheik|Iron Sheik]] is a wrestler, and a former [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Federation|WWF]] [[Wikipedia:List_of_WWE_Champions|Champion]] in the 1980s.
*The way Strong Bad pronounces 'Houston' is the same as General Zod in [[Wikipedia:Superman II|Superman II]].
*Homestar's "buttweesimo" is probably a reference to [http://www.bizbyjake.com/index_flash.html Jake Steinfeld], the founder of [http://www.bodybyjake.com Body By Jake], who frequently mentions "working the ol' buttisimo" in his infomercials and books.
**The Italian suffix [http://italian.about.com/library/fare/blfare131a.htm -issimo] is used as a [[Wikipedia:Superlative|superlative]]. Taken literally, "buttissimo" or "buttweesimo" would mean "the most butt", which could further be interpreted as "the largest butt".
*"Tweesercize" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jazzercise|Jazzercise]], a popular exercise program that combines jazz dance with aerobic workouts. Homestar's outfit (particularly the leg-warmers) more specifically represents a fitness style popular in the '80s.
*The "six minutes long" sticker on Homestar's fitness video is likely a reference to "Eight Minute Abs", a fitness video that offers an excerise program that supposedly allows you to tone your abdominal muscles in a matter of weeks while working out for only eight minutes a day.

===Fast Forward===
*Homestar will again wear his exercise clothes in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Paper's printer was later seen in [[the paper]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==

{{sbemailextlinks|147|7278}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:gimmicks

Sompm — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:37:04 GMT

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==Strong Sad's Poster==
{| cellpadding="3" style="background:#f7f7ff; border:1px gray solid;"
|- valign="bottom"
|<center>[[Image:ss gimmicks poster.jpg|75px]]</center>|| ||<center>[[Image:tear.gif|75px]]</center>
|-
|<center>The poster from gimmicks</center>|| ||<center>Strong Sad's Lament</center>
|}

There used to be a fun fact that read: ''"The poster on the wall in [[Strong Sad's Room]] is a picture of [[Wikipedia:Dream (DC Comics)|Morpheus]] from [[Wikipedia:Neil Gaiman|Neil Gaiman's]] '[[Wikipedia:The Sandman (DC Comics Modern Age)|Sandman]]' series."'' This description is virtually identical to the one next to the avatar in [[Strong Sad's Lament]], but obviously the images themselves are not identical. What we need is someone to '''provide a link''' from somewhere online to the image of the poster (on the left). Once someone comes up with appropriate evidence (either that it's Morpheus or something else entirely), the fact will be reinstated (possibly after having been rewritten, depending on what evidence is found). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:Well, as a Sandman (and a Neil Gaiman) fan, I can see the resemblance to Morpheus. But I've never seen that exact incarnation of him before. Gaiman did use many different artists throughout Sandman's run, though, so it could be something I've never seen. Also, I don't remember Morpheus ever wearing a crescent-moon before, but that could just be artist interpretation. A quick Google image search brings up lots of pics, but not that one. --[[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 11:45, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I don't know how conclusive this is, but I found several fan sites containing the image on the right: [http://home.freeuk.com/moondog/sandman.htm], [http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/sandman/sandbrevi.htm], [http://rivendell.fortunecity.com/battlespire/85/dream.htm], and [http://www.splashcomics.de/html/specials/sandman/gallery.php]. (Of course, I realized after finding these that we are really looking for the image on the left.) So then for over an hour I looked through covers of Gaiman's books and comics, and I didn't find anything that points to Strong Sad's poster being related at all to our buddy Morpheus. The guy on the left looks like a pirate to me. Arrrgh mateys! (We might want to post something on the forum, it usually has a nice broad audience where people who might have seen our swashbuckler might be able to tell where he's from.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:55, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I have posted it on the forum [[Forum:5133|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::If someone feels like shelling out the $2.50, this would be a good question to post on [http://answers.google.com/answers/ Google Answers]. --[[User:Trey56|Trey56]] 15:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::::That is the sandman according to [http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:cYUPCiViE_UJ:theshortbus1.tripod.com/FILES/SANDMAN/sandmangallery4.jpg this page] too. [[User:Ed smildE|EdSmilde]]
::::::This is [http://theshortbus1.tripod.com/ a link] to the page that contains that image. It's definitely the same as Strong Sad's poster (and the quality is even a little better). I can't find any more information on it, though. What larger work is it from? And why doesn't it show up online under the name "Sandman" except for that one page? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Whoa ==

Strong Bad must have not gotten ANY good emails when they made this one. [[User:68.215.185.76|68.215.185.76]] 12:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Oh, come on, man. You don't see any point of irony in this thing? I mean, the guy misses the days when Strong Bad would just boringaly answer his emails without anything happening, and then the computer explodes. How much more gimmicky-y can you get, man? I don't know.

== "Seems to be the e-mail?" ==

From the summary: "This seems to be the email when the Tandy experienced its explosion."

I think it's pretty darn certain that the Tandy exploded in this e-mail. (I changed it already.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:38, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

That happened to my little TV once, only it didn't explode.... The screen just warped and it shut off, only the power light was still on, and there was a barely discernible squeal with a burning electronic smell in the air.....--[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]]

== Superfreak??? ==

I really don't think the intro song is a reference to Superfreak. Thoughts? --[[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]

Idon't think the song is super freak either. It doesn't sound enough like it to make me believe

== Moved obvious comment from fun facts to description ==

"This, obviously, is the beginning of the end of the Tandy 400" was removed from the fun facts and STUFF'd, and with good reason: if it's so obvious, then why does it need to be a remark? But instead of STUFFing, I moved it to the description at the top of the page. How does it look there? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hm... I think we should just delete it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
::I dunno, it kinda adds a little character to the description, so I don't mind it up there. (But it sure doesn't need to be in the fun facts.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Stuff'd it --Orange Star

== two floating gear comments? ==

Is it just me, or is it blatantly obvious there are two comments about the floating gear? so, it it a goof or a remark? [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 04:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say a remark. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::I axed the goof. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 23:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:gimmicks

Sompm — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:36:50 GMT

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gimmicks

Sompm — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:35:36 GMT

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{{sbenav|33}}

[[Image:sbemail33.PNG|thumb|This does not look good for Strong Bad.]]

The beginning of the end of the [[Tandy 400]]: Mike W. misses the days that Strong Bad would answer emails without some sort of gimmick. Then the computer [[Explosions|explodes]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Sad's Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 24, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:16

'''Page Title:''' TANDY 400!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Super great, super great... Check your email! Diggity...

<blockquote class="tandy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Do you remember when you would answer emails and 
be funny without some sort of gimmick? I do, I miss 
those days. 
 
With a lot of crap, 
 
Mike W 
Everett, MA</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces MA as "ma."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Yep. I remember those days, Mike. Those were good days... ''{sniffs}'' good days. ''{The email shrinks to the center of the screen with a powering-down noise.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Mutters}'' What the...crap? ''{The monitor sparks sharply}'' Whoa! Whgjht?

''{silence}''

''{The computer spontaneously explodes in Strong Bad's face covering his head in soot and ash. He flies across the room screaming, and breaks through the wall into Strong Sad's room. He groans and opens his eyes and sees Strong Sad standing above him upside down.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, jeez! Are you okay?

''{Strong Bad stands up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What, yeah, no, I'm fine! ''{brushes burnt wrestling mask parts backwards}'' Nothing happened; I'm fine!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did your terrible computer explode?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, shut up! Look, I'm gonna need to borrow like nine hundred dollars.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, I hope that's for a new computer. You could get one like yours at a garage sale for like... ''{chuckling}'' fifteen dollars.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said SHUT UP!!! ''{sulkily}'' I ''liked'' that computer.

''{Strong Bad walks through the wall back to his room.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...I hope some of that money's for buying me a new poster. You don't seem too broken up about that.

''{Cut to what's left of the Tandy 400. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==

*At the end of the email, click on the contrast buttons to make the broken monitor spark and flash. Pressing the left contrast button causes the broken bulb-like component in the center to flash bright white. Pressing the right contrast button causes the green wire to jump and spark.

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===

*This is the first instance of [[Strong Bad's computer malfunctioning]].
*This email marks the first appearance of Strong Sad's new mouth movement style.

===Remarks===

*When you pause during the explosion, you can see that the "explosion" is just glass shards overlapped on the screen.
*When Strong Bad is talking to Strong Sad, his mouth seems unusually small.
*The spinning fan inside the exploded Tandy at the end doesn't seem to be attached to anything else, and is just floating in midair.
*Most computers need fans, but gears of that size are never found in a computer, although this might be a joke referring to Strong Bad's taste for old computers.
*As of [[sisters]], the Tandy's exploded screen is shown as if it was never shattered, but instead it is shown as slightly cracked.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Tandy 400 Exploding.png|thumb| Misplaced head and glass shards.]]
*When you click the left contrast button at the end of the email, the rainbow star logo disappears until the animation is done, along with the word "Contrast."
**As well, the contrast buttons, the back link and a glass shard from the Tandy's monitor remain on top of the flash of light.
*When the Tandy explodes, Strong Bad's reflection is incorrect. It is located at the top of the computer screen, at the same angle the computer is.
*When Strong Bad is flying through the air and crashes into the wall, where Strong Sad's room's wall meets the floor, the bottom-left corner of it protrudes more than it should.
*As Strong Bad is flying, the last thing you see in the background is a door. When he is in Strong Sad's room, the last thing before the wall is now a window.
*It is unusual for the back link to be on the screen, since the [[Wikipedia:Cathode ray tube|picture tube]] of Tandy is facing the table and most likely broken.

===Inside References===

*Strong Bad receives another email signed with the word [[Crapfully Yours|crap]]; this is the last time he reads such a signature without expressing his displeasure at it.

===Real-World References===

*The opening song is based on the song [[Wikipedia:Super Freak|"Super Freak"]] by [[Wikipedia:Rick James|Rick James]].
*As Strong Bad flies across the room, he passes the same door and window several times. Repeating backgrounds are common in low-budget animation.

===Fast Forward===

*This email would later appear in [[personal favorites]], which is odd because, at the end of this email, it seems like Strong Bad is very broken up about the explosion.
*In the email [[sisters]], Strong Bad claimed he hated his computer, which contradicts his statement in this email claiming he liked his computer.
*The gear and fan would appear inside the shotgunned [[Compy 386]] in [[virus]].

==DVD Version==

*Instead of clicking on the contrast buttons to make pieces of the computer short-circuit/explode, the malfunctions happen without user interaction.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail33.html|watch "gimmicks"]]
*[[HR:sbemail33.swf|view the Flash file for "gimmicks"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

User:Sompm

Sompm — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:31:44 GMT

Sompm:

hello everybloody. welcome to my page. I don't know why you're here, but who cares. let me tell you a little bit about mysself.

what I am not:
*a girl
*an xbox 360 owner
*a jerk who flips people off all the time
*a drug addict or alchoholic of any kind
*potatoes...

where I am not:
*Washington DC
*the moon
*outside the USA

who I am not:
*an over the hill pervert who looks at child pornography
*a 3 year old
*kenny chesney

when I am not:
*anytime other than right now.

and I don't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 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<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: stupid email!</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Why are you answering this email? 
it's total nonsense! 
there's no reason for you to be answering it! 
unless I hacked your computer. 
mwehehe. 
haxxored! 
sompm</blockquote>

Talk:gimmicks

Sompm — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:35:47 GMT

Sompm: /* two floating gear parts? */

Talk:gimmicks

Sompm — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:35:20 GMT

Sompm: /**/two floating gear parts?

==Strong Sad's Poster==
{| cellpadding="3" style="background:#f7f7ff; border:1px gray solid;"
|- valign="bottom"
|<center>[[Image:ss gimmicks poster.jpg|75px]]</center>|| ||<center>[[Image:tear.gif|75px]]</center>
|-
|<center>The poster from gimmicks</center>|| ||<center>Strong Sad's Lament</center>
|}

There used to be a fun fact that read: ''"The poster on the wall in [[Strong Sad's Room]] is a picture of [[Wikipedia:Dream (DC Comics)|Morpheus]] from [[Wikipedia:Neil Gaiman|Neil Gaiman's]] '[[Wikipedia:The Sandman (DC Comics Modern Age)|Sandman]]' series."'' This description is virtually identical to the one next to the avatar in [[Strong Sad's Lament]], but obviously the images themselves are not identical. What we need is someone to '''provide a link''' from somewhere online to the image of the poster (on the left). Once someone comes up with appropriate evidence (either that it's Morpheus or something else entirely), the fact will be reinstated (possibly after having been rewritten, depending on what evidence is found). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:Well, as a Sandman (and a Neil Gaiman) fan, I can see the resemblance to Morpheus. But I've never seen that exact incarnation of him before. Gaiman did use many different artists throughout Sandman's run, though, so it could be something I've never seen. Also, I don't remember Morpheus ever wearing a crescent-moon before, but that could just be artist interpretation. A quick Google image search brings up lots of pics, but not that one. --[[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 11:45, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I don't know how conclusive this is, but I found several fan sites containing the image on the right: [http://home.freeuk.com/moondog/sandman.htm], [http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/sandman/sandbrevi.htm], [http://rivendell.fortunecity.com/battlespire/85/dream.htm], and [http://www.splashcomics.de/html/specials/sandman/gallery.php]. (Of course, I realized after finding these that we are really looking for the image on the left.) So then for over an hour I looked through covers of Gaiman's books and comics, and I didn't find anything that points to Strong Sad's poster being related at all to our buddy Morpheus. The guy on the left looks like a pirate to me. Arrrgh mateys! (We might want to post something on the forum, it usually has a nice broad audience where people who might have seen our swashbuckler might be able to tell where he's from.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:55, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I have posted it on the forum [[Forum:5133|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::If someone feels like shelling out the $2.50, this would be a good question to post on [http://answers.google.com/answers/ Google Answers]. --[[User:Trey56|Trey56]] 15:29, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::::That is the sandman according to [http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:cYUPCiViE_UJ:theshortbus1.tripod.com/FILES/SANDMAN/sandmangallery4.jpg this page] too. [[User:Ed smildE|EdSmilde]]
::::::This is [http://theshortbus1.tripod.com/ a link] to the page that contains that image. It's definitely the same as Strong Sad's poster (and the quality is even a little better). I can't find any more information on it, though. What larger work is it from? And why doesn't it show up online under the name "Sandman" except for that one page? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Whoa ==

Strong Bad must have not gotten ANY good emails when they made this one. [[User:68.215.185.76|68.215.185.76]] 12:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Oh, come on, man. You don't see any point of irony in this thing? I mean, the guy misses the days when Strong Bad would just boringaly answer his emails without anything happening, and then the computer explodes. How much more gimmicky-y can you get, man? I don't know.

== "Seems to be the e-mail?" ==

From the summary: "This seems to be the email when the Tandy experienced its explosion."

I think it's pretty darn certain that the Tandy exploded in this e-mail. (I changed it already.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:38, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

That happened to my little TV once, only it didn't explode.... The screen just warped and it shut off, only the power light was still on, and there was a barely discernible squeal with a burning electronic smell in the air.....--[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]]

== Superfreak??? ==

I really don't think the intro song is a reference to Superfreak. Thoughts? --[[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]

Idon't think the song is super freak either. It doesn't sound enough like it to make me believe

== Moved obvious comment from fun facts to description ==

"This, obviously, is the beginning of the end of the Tandy 400" was removed from the fun facts and STUFF'd, and with good reason: if it's so obvious, then why does it need to be a remark? But instead of STUFFing, I moved it to the description at the top of the page. How does it look there? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hm... I think we should just delete it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
::I dunno, it kinda adds a little character to the description, so I don't mind it up there. (But it sure doesn't need to be in the fun facts.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Stuff'd it --Orange Star

== two floating gear parts? ==

Is it just me, or is it blatantly obvious there are two comments about the floating gear? so, it it a goof or a remark? [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 04:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:sloshy

Sompm — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:29:23 GMT

Sompm: /* Sloshy members */

== Logo ==
Why is the sloshy logo upside-down? Is there a real band with such a logo? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, there's a lot of post-modern/post-punk bands that will use upside down or reversed logos to go along with an unconventional image. Most famously is [[Wikipedia:Nine Inch Nails|Nine Inch Nails]]'s logo. KMFDM released an ep titled [[Wikipedia: MDFMK (single)|MDFMK]]. R.E.M.'s 1985 album [[Wikipedia: Fables of the Reconstruction|''Fables Of The Reconstruction'']] is written in a circle on the LP, so it could also be read ''Reconstruction Of The Fables''. This is a case where it's not referring to a specific logo, more of a general attitude. To me, sloshy sounds like equal parts [[Wikipedia: Weezer| Weezer]] and emo or shoegazer bands.{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:19, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it just me or does this band sound EXACTLY like a loving caricature of the band [[Wikipedia: Pavement (Band)| Pavement]]?
- [[User:Mr_Vorhias|Mr_Vorhias]] (August 20th, 2007, 3:36 PM EST)
:It's not just you, I thought of Pavement when some sloshy came on. - [[User:Punching_Kittens|Punching Kittens]] (August 23, 2007, 8:23 AM EST)
:Not just you, no. They sound a lot like Pavement to me as well. [[User:Eric Mushroom Wilson|Eric Mushroom Wilson]] 17:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How do you input the upside down characters? Also, they're not showing up in my IE-like browser. Is there some kind of language pack that needs downloaded? (Personally, I don't think it needs to be upside down in the text. That's what the picture is there for. Also it's confusing for folks whose browsers it doesn't appear correctly in.)--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 20:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:For the upside down characters, you need to have a [[Wikipedia:Unicode|Unicode]] capably browser and font. Firefox and newer versions of IE are able to do it. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, as for flipping it, http://www.revfad.com/flip.html is a useful site. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Cool. Well, I still vote that it doesn't really need to be there, in case anyone cares about my opinion.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 20:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I lean toward agreeing. The given text doesn't really replicate the text of the band's logo that well, for one thing, and it is likely to be confusing for those with older browsers. I would suggest that "(typeset upside-down)" combined with the image would likely do the job just as well. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::But it looks so cool. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::I vote we keep that combination of both right-side-up and upside-down, and just put a little note next to the upside-down one saying that it's upside-down, for those who have browser issues. Hey, if Wikipedia gets to have foreign languages that won't display properly, why can't we have upside-down letters that don't display properly? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 21:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I originally put the flipped text on the page, but now I agree that it should be removed. It doesn't display properly in all browsers, and the logo can easily be seen in the image on the right.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

How did you guys get the first letter to be lowercase? [[User:72.83.150.246|72.83.150.246]] 00:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, the logo is all in lowercase. And Strong Bad types "sloshy" with a lowercase s. That's why we spell it that way. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I get that part, but I've got a wiki of my own and can't make articles with lowercase first letters. How'd you manage that?
:::We have a special extention installed in our version of MediaWiki which allows us to name pages with a lowercase letter. We've had it for a long time, mostly because of Strong Bad Email titles. I don't really know too much about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh. Alright. Thanks anyway. [[User:72.83.150.246|72.83.150.246]] 04:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::You need to set [[MW:Manual:$wgCapitalLinks|$wgCapitalLinks]] to false in [[MW:Manual:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]]. That option controls whether to automatically capitalise the first letter of the page title. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

=== Softly ===
Does the logo remind anyone else of the logo for Softly peanut butter?

([http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/mashuren/1190813486355.jpg Link.])

It has the sleek, all-lowercase font, the red "o", and the elongated tail on the "y". Probably not a reference, but I thought it was kind of a cool coincidence.
:Just the o. Though Softly ''does'' sorta sound like sloshy. But other logos have red o's too, such as [[Wikipedia:Mobil|Mobil's]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

== Name that Genre ==

Let's sort this out once and for all: what genre is sloshy? Personally, I'm 100% certain they're Alternative Rock. They have all the stereotypes of the genre: No lead guitarist, glasses, little mainstream success until the death of Hair Metal, short hair, no costumes, electric guitar solos, songs with weird titles that aren't about girls/Los Angeles/good times. The list goes on. Furthermore, the appearance of [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] validates my theory: in the episode, they were knocked off the charts by an alternative rock band who had short hair and glasses. Then, Strong Bad throws the remote at Strong Sad "for you and your kind destroying metal!". sloshy, a band which Strong Sad is a fan of, must therefore also be alternative rock. Plus, sloshy can be compared to [[They Might Be Giants]], and we all know about the close relationship between the band and the website. I rest my case. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:Well I guess I consider all the trappings you speak of the be more associated with Indie Rock than Alternative Rock. To me Alternative Rock (capital A, capital R) went mainstream around 92/93 and that tag came to mean something other than alternative rock (small a, small r). While the same thing may happen to the indie tag I think that the sort of underground, small club, pitchfork appearing, college radio band that sloshy is a caricature of is better called indie rock (the Pavement comparison is fitting I think). For that matter I would never think to call They Might Be Giants Alternative Rock, only dads in their 40's would make that mistake. They are clearly indie pop...clearly. The Alternative/Indie Rock tag is fine with me, as with any of these sub genres peoples connotations for a tag will greatly influence what bands they thing fit that tag (emo anyone?). -Goodness Of Fit
::Sloshy is totally alt. rock, definately. They sound exactly like "The Cure", if you ask me, and the cure is 100% alternative.

== Strong Sad image ==

What is the point of the Strong Sad image? It doesn't really add much to the article, and it makes the page look weird. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:I disagree, and add a <nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki> if you think so... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::Why do you disagree? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Because it makes the article look fuller. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::But it's just Strong Sad with a shirt on. It's like putting an image of Strong Bad wearing a Limozeen‎ shirt on the Limozeen‎ page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I like the Strong Sad image because it shows the logo in two different contexts, which each are colored a little differently. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:Plus we don't have an actual picture of the band or any of their albums. The next best thing is an image of their biggest fan. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I think an image of a sloshy t-shirt is a good thing to have on the aricle. It's extra stuff about the band that otherwise wouldn't get mentioned anywhere else other than [[Strong Sad Wearing A Shirt]], which isn't about the sloshy shirt so much as it is about Strong Sad wearing it. If there were an image somewhere of Strong Bad wearing a Limozeen shirt, that SHOULD be included on the Limozeen page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, Strong Bad has never worn a Limozeen shirt. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:42, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

== Sloshy vs. sloshy, the plot thickens ==

So, in the [[Quote Of The Week]] for August 23, 2007, Sloshy is capitalized. Do we chalk it up as a goof, or does this affect our lower-case theory?--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 07:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... I think that the t-shirts and Strong Bad's typing outweigh the Quote of the Week, so I think our article should stay lowercase. Also I'd say it's more of an inconsistency than a goof. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::A similar difference was shown in [[senior prom]] and its following quote, in which we noted it as a [[senior prom#Remarks|remark]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think the T-shirts (which just feature the stylized wordmark) carry much if any weight, but Strong Bad's typing certainly does, considering he's such a stickler. At any rate, I amended the article to state that sloshy is ''usually'' written in all lowercase. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I actually think that Quote of The Week outweighs Strong Bad's typing, it's not like it's rare for him to make spelling errors and the like, and stylised logos are totally meaningless, I think that the correct title would have a capitol letter.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 06:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh contrè. The QotW isn't always correct. For example, when they did the [[Where the Crap Are We?]] quote, they put "'''Naw,''' it can't be heaven. There's not enough Twinkies," despite the fact Strong Bad ''clearly'' says "'''No'''". Did we change the transcript to reflect the erroneous QotW? No, we didn't. Furthermore, Strong Bad types "sloshy" with a lowercase "s" ''four times''. I hardly think Strong Bad made the same mistake four times in a row. Keep the title the way it is. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Ok, it's sure now, [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]] had it with a capital. Mooooooving.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 09:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I think this move was done too hastily. Notice the name is lowercase on the [[HRStore:tshirts1.html|T-shirts]] page in the Store, and ''twice'' on the actual record cover in Limozeen vs. Sloshy. Survey says: move it back to the old title. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 09:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::The record cover is stylised, that hardly counts. Anyway, it has been titled to be Sloshy two times by non-HSR universe sources, characters may like calling it by it's stylised logo, but it has been shown that TBC sees it as a capital at the start, by two definative sources.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 09:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm not talking about the stylized logos, I'm talking about where it says "Limozeen plays sloshy's" and "sloshy plays Limozeen's" at the bottom. And the Store is a non-universe source. Anyway, don't we usually care more about what goes on in the toons than what goes on outside? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 09:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm with Has Matt?, if you couldn't tell. The ONLY case of a capital "S" on sloshy's name in [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]] was the title; the record itself uses a neutral font and consistently capitalizes Limozeen, but decapitalizes sloshy. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, my opinion about how it's written on the record is that they were simply copying the style of the logo, maybe I should wait for another toon and see what it says.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 00:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Logo Background ==

[[Image:Sloshy logo.png|230px]]
[[Image:Sloshy.png|230px]]

The gray boxes in the background aren't part of the logo. They're just the background of Strong Bad's imagination when he's trying to prove they're a metal band. Every other time the logo is shown it's on a solid color (usually black) background.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 05:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Plus, the black background looks nicer/makes it easier to read. {{User:Punching_Kittens/sig}} 23:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, there are rarely ever cases where a modded screenshot is necessary, and this certainly isn't one of them. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:::<s>Still, the black background looks fine. No need to bother changing it back.</s> Someone changed it back already. In that case, I thought the black background looked more attractive. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it may not be necessary, but it doesn't really hurt anything. It does add a little bit of professionalism to have the irrelevant background edited out. I wouldn't have worried about it myself, but since [[User:Punching Kittens|Punching Kittens]] went through the trouble to make it and upload it, what's the harm in using it?--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 07:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, my friend made it and insisted that I put it up. I ''did'' have to endure the hardships of uploading and editing. My fingers still have a dull ache that sorely reminds me of my commitment to friends. Anyways, are we changing to the black background or keeping the gray bar background? {{User:Punching_Kittens/sig}} 08:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I am that friend that edited it, I did it because in every other place(save one, if I recall correctly) where the logo is seen, it is seen on a black background, so I figured it would be canon almost. Also the black background one is larger, which could be a small advantage--[[User:Scald my lake|Scald my lake]] 23:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Song list ==

To be pedantic, we don't know for certain that "we don't even really care about you" is the name of that song. It is conceivable that the actual name of the song is one of those listed on the album. There is plenty of precedent for this within their genre. The evidence in favor is that the title is 4 times longer than any other explicitly known title. But even if it were one of the songs listed on the album, it's not 100% clear which it would be. "ok fine" would be the best guess.
--[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 17:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad does describe the song as "that song called 'We don't really even care about you'" in [[concert]]... anyways, the point is moot now with [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::actually, the word "moot" means "worthy of debate" rather then the opposite. but you're right, it is no longer worth discussing the title of that song. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 20:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==

The song list, the album list and the discography are different from other band articles like [[Limozeen]]. I must confess, I don't actually know what it's supposed to look like. But I do know that it needs fixing ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:In comparison, here's [[Cool Tapes]]. They differ so much, it's hurts. Do we need to set up a standard? I think the Limozeen article looks great, and if possible, we need to apply that look to all other [[Category:Bands|bands]] (like the members section). What say you? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think so, but it's already been partially done by the {{tl|Infobox Band}}. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 21:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sloshy members ==
[[Image:Sloshy in space.PNG|thumb]]

I have a theory, leading from this picture I believe the guy who is turned around talking to the bassist is the drummer, then the guy driving is the keyboardist. I think that because Strong Bad says that they strung a bunch of christmas lights on the bass drum which would mean that they would have to be able to see the drummer. So that leaves the Keyboardist and bassist, but if you rember Strong Bad was wondering if the Bassists sungalsses lenses fell out so he would have had to of seen him clearly. So that just leaves the key boardist, now I think that because if TBC are running the same gag as we are to never see his face then that would make him be the keyboardist. That's just my idea though.

I don't know if you guys understand what types of sounds instruments make, but there are obviously no keayboards in any of sloshy's music. Just because they say there isn't any lead guitarist doesn't mean there's no guitarist at all. I picture the general stage presece of the band as:

The guy with glasses is the bassist. The guy in the black shirt is the drummer. The guy in the flannel is the guitarist who is turned away from the audience. The vocal duties are really up in the air, unless we want to try and compare the song vocal tracks with the voices in the easter egg.

:You're forgetting however, that keyboard can make all types of sounds. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 23:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

::sure, a keyboard ''can'' make all kinds of sounds, but having it set on guitar in every single song they play? I doubt it. that guy's definitely a rhythm guitarist. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 20:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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== Logo ==
Why is the sloshy logo upside-down? Is there a real band with such a logo? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, there's a lot of post-modern/post-punk bands that will use upside down or reversed logos to go along with an unconventional image. Most famously is [[Wikipedia:Nine Inch Nails|Nine Inch Nails]]'s logo. KMFDM released an ep titled [[Wikipedia: MDFMK (single)|MDFMK]]. R.E.M.'s 1985 album [[Wikipedia: Fables of the Reconstruction|''Fables Of The Reconstruction'']] is written in a circle on the LP, so it could also be read ''Reconstruction Of The Fables''. This is a case where it's not referring to a specific logo, more of a general attitude. To me, sloshy sounds like equal parts [[Wikipedia: Weezer| Weezer]] and emo or shoegazer bands.{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:19, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it just me or does this band sound EXACTLY like a loving caricature of the band [[Wikipedia: Pavement (Band)| Pavement]]?
- [[User:Mr_Vorhias|Mr_Vorhias]] (August 20th, 2007, 3:36 PM EST)
:It's not just you, I thought of Pavement when some sloshy came on. - [[User:Punching_Kittens|Punching Kittens]] (August 23, 2007, 8:23 AM EST)
:Not just you, no. They sound a lot like Pavement to me as well. [[User:Eric Mushroom Wilson|Eric Mushroom Wilson]] 17:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How do you input the upside down characters? Also, they're not showing up in my IE-like browser. Is there some kind of language pack that needs downloaded? (Personally, I don't think it needs to be upside down in the text. That's what the picture is there for. Also it's confusing for folks whose browsers it doesn't appear correctly in.)--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 20:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:For the upside down characters, you need to have a [[Wikipedia:Unicode|Unicode]] capably browser and font. Firefox and newer versions of IE are able to do it. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, as for flipping it, http://www.revfad.com/flip.html is a useful site. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Cool. Well, I still vote that it doesn't really need to be there, in case anyone cares about my opinion.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 20:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I lean toward agreeing. The given text doesn't really replicate the text of the band's logo that well, for one thing, and it is likely to be confusing for those with older browsers. I would suggest that "(typeset upside-down)" combined with the image would likely do the job just as well. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::But it looks so cool. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::I vote we keep that combination of both right-side-up and upside-down, and just put a little note next to the upside-down one saying that it's upside-down, for those who have browser issues. Hey, if Wikipedia gets to have foreign languages that won't display properly, why can't we have upside-down letters that don't display properly? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 21:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I originally put the flipped text on the page, but now I agree that it should be removed. It doesn't display properly in all browsers, and the logo can easily be seen in the image on the right.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

How did you guys get the first letter to be lowercase? [[User:72.83.150.246|72.83.150.246]] 00:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, the logo is all in lowercase. And Strong Bad types "sloshy" with a lowercase s. That's why we spell it that way. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I get that part, but I've got a wiki of my own and can't make articles with lowercase first letters. How'd you manage that?
:::We have a special extention installed in our version of MediaWiki which allows us to name pages with a lowercase letter. We've had it for a long time, mostly because of Strong Bad Email titles. I don't really know too much about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh. Alright. Thanks anyway. [[User:72.83.150.246|72.83.150.246]] 04:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::You need to set [[MW:Manual:$wgCapitalLinks|$wgCapitalLinks]] to false in [[MW:Manual:LocalSettings.php|LocalSettings.php]]. That option controls whether to automatically capitalise the first letter of the page title. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

=== Softly ===
Does the logo remind anyone else of the logo for Softly peanut butter?

([http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/mashuren/1190813486355.jpg Link.])

It has the sleek, all-lowercase font, the red "o", and the elongated tail on the "y". Probably not a reference, but I thought it was kind of a cool coincidence.
:Just the o. Though Softly ''does'' sorta sound like sloshy. But other logos have red o's too, such as [[Wikipedia:Mobil|Mobil's]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

== Name that Genre ==

Let's sort this out once and for all: what genre is sloshy? Personally, I'm 100% certain they're Alternative Rock. They have all the stereotypes of the genre: No lead guitarist, glasses, little mainstream success until the death of Hair Metal, short hair, no costumes, electric guitar solos, songs with weird titles that aren't about girls/Los Angeles/good times. The list goes on. Furthermore, the appearance of [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] validates my theory: in the episode, they were knocked off the charts by an alternative rock band who had short hair and glasses. Then, Strong Bad throws the remote at Strong Sad "for you and your kind destroying metal!". sloshy, a band which Strong Sad is a fan of, must therefore also be alternative rock. Plus, sloshy can be compared to [[They Might Be Giants]], and we all know about the close relationship between the band and the website. I rest my case. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:Well I guess I consider all the trappings you speak of the be more associated with Indie Rock than Alternative Rock. To me Alternative Rock (capital A, capital R) went mainstream around 92/93 and that tag came to mean something other than alternative rock (small a, small r). While the same thing may happen to the indie tag I think that the sort of underground, small club, pitchfork appearing, college radio band that sloshy is a caricature of is better called indie rock (the Pavement comparison is fitting I think). For that matter I would never think to call They Might Be Giants Alternative Rock, only dads in their 40's would make that mistake. They are clearly indie pop...clearly. The Alternative/Indie Rock tag is fine with me, as with any of these sub genres peoples connotations for a tag will greatly influence what bands they thing fit that tag (emo anyone?). -Goodness Of Fit
::Sloshy is totally alt. rock, definately. They sound exactly like "The Cure", if you ask me, and the cure is 100% alternative.

== Strong Sad image ==

What is the point of the Strong Sad image? It doesn't really add much to the article, and it makes the page look weird. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:I disagree, and add a <nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki> if you think so... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::Why do you disagree? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Because it makes the article look fuller. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::But it's just Strong Sad with a shirt on. It's like putting an image of Strong Bad wearing a Limozeen‎ shirt on the Limozeen‎ page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I like the Strong Sad image because it shows the logo in two different contexts, which each are colored a little differently. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:Plus we don't have an actual picture of the band or any of their albums. The next best thing is an image of their biggest fan. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:I think an image of a sloshy t-shirt is a good thing to have on the aricle. It's extra stuff about the band that otherwise wouldn't get mentioned anywhere else other than [[Strong Sad Wearing A Shirt]], which isn't about the sloshy shirt so much as it is about Strong Sad wearing it. If there were an image somewhere of Strong Bad wearing a Limozeen shirt, that SHOULD be included on the Limozeen page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, Strong Bad has never worn a Limozeen shirt. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:42, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

== Sloshy vs. sloshy, the plot thickens ==

So, in the [[Quote Of The Week]] for August 23, 2007, Sloshy is capitalized. Do we chalk it up as a goof, or does this affect our lower-case theory?--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 07:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... I think that the t-shirts and Strong Bad's typing outweigh the Quote of the Week, so I think our article should stay lowercase. Also I'd say it's more of an inconsistency than a goof. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::A similar difference was shown in [[senior prom]] and its following quote, in which we noted it as a [[senior prom#Remarks|remark]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think the T-shirts (which just feature the stylized wordmark) carry much if any weight, but Strong Bad's typing certainly does, considering he's such a stickler. At any rate, I amended the article to state that sloshy is ''usually'' written in all lowercase. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I actually think that Quote of The Week outweighs Strong Bad's typing, it's not like it's rare for him to make spelling errors and the like, and stylised logos are totally meaningless, I think that the correct title would have a capitol letter.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 06:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh contrè. The QotW isn't always correct. For example, when they did the [[Where the Crap Are We?]] quote, they put "'''Naw,''' it can't be heaven. There's not enough Twinkies," despite the fact Strong Bad ''clearly'' says "'''No'''". Did we change the transcript to reflect the erroneous QotW? No, we didn't. Furthermore, Strong Bad types "sloshy" with a lowercase "s" ''four times''. I hardly think Strong Bad made the same mistake four times in a row. Keep the title the way it is. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Ok, it's sure now, [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]] had it with a capital. Mooooooving.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 09:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I think this move was done too hastily. Notice the name is lowercase on the [[HRStore:tshirts1.html|T-shirts]] page in the Store, and ''twice'' on the actual record cover in Limozeen vs. Sloshy. Survey says: move it back to the old title. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 09:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::The record cover is stylised, that hardly counts. Anyway, it has been titled to be Sloshy two times by non-HSR universe sources, characters may like calling it by it's stylised logo, but it has been shown that TBC sees it as a capital at the start, by two definative sources.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 09:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm not talking about the stylized logos, I'm talking about where it says "Limozeen plays sloshy's" and "sloshy plays Limozeen's" at the bottom. And the Store is a non-universe source. Anyway, don't we usually care more about what goes on in the toons than what goes on outside? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 09:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm with Has Matt?, if you couldn't tell. The ONLY case of a capital "S" on sloshy's name in [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]] was the title; the record itself uses a neutral font and consistently capitalizes Limozeen, but decapitalizes sloshy. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, my opinion about how it's written on the record is that they were simply copying the style of the logo, maybe I should wait for another toon and see what it says.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 00:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Logo Background ==

[[Image:Sloshy logo.png|230px]]
[[Image:Sloshy.png|230px]]

The gray boxes in the background aren't part of the logo. They're just the background of Strong Bad's imagination when he's trying to prove they're a metal band. Every other time the logo is shown it's on a solid color (usually black) background.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 05:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Plus, the black background looks nicer/makes it easier to read. {{User:Punching_Kittens/sig}} 23:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, there are rarely ever cases where a modded screenshot is necessary, and this certainly isn't one of them. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:::<s>Still, the black background looks fine. No need to bother changing it back.</s> Someone changed it back already. In that case, I thought the black background looked more attractive. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it may not be necessary, but it doesn't really hurt anything. It does add a little bit of professionalism to have the irrelevant background edited out. I wouldn't have worried about it myself, but since [[User:Punching Kittens|Punching Kittens]] went through the trouble to make it and upload it, what's the harm in using it?--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 07:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, my friend made it and insisted that I put it up. I ''did'' have to endure the hardships of uploading and editing. My fingers still have a dull ache that sorely reminds me of my commitment to friends. Anyways, are we changing to the black background or keeping the gray bar background? {{User:Punching_Kittens/sig}} 08:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I am that friend that edited it, I did it because in every other place(save one, if I recall correctly) where the logo is seen, it is seen on a black background, so I figured it would be canon almost. Also the black background one is larger, which could be a small advantage--[[User:Scald my lake|Scald my lake]] 23:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Song list ==

To be pedantic, we don't know for certain that "we don't even really care about you" is the name of that song. It is conceivable that the actual name of the song is one of those listed on the album. There is plenty of precedent for this within their genre. The evidence in favor is that the title is 4 times longer than any other explicitly known title. But even if it were one of the songs listed on the album, it's not 100% clear which it would be. "ok fine" would be the best guess.
--[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 17:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad does describe the song as "that song called 'We don't really even care about you'" in [[concert]]... anyways, the point is moot now with [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::actually, the word "moot" means "worthy of debate" rather then the opposite. but you're right, it is no longer worth discussing the title of that song.

== Cleanup ==

The song list, the album list and the discography are different from other band articles like [[Limozeen]]. I must confess, I don't actually know what it's supposed to look like. But I do know that it needs fixing ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:In comparison, here's [[Cool Tapes]]. They differ so much, it's hurts. Do we need to set up a standard? I think the Limozeen article looks great, and if possible, we need to apply that look to all other [[Category:Bands|bands]] (like the members section). What say you? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think so, but it's already been partially done by the {{tl|Infobox Band}}. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 21:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sloshy members ==
[[Image:Sloshy in space.PNG|thumb]]

I have a theory, leading from this picture I believe the guy who is turned around talking to the bassist is the drummer, then the guy driving is the keyboardist. I think that because Strong Bad says that they strung a bunch of christmas lights on the bass drum which would mean that they would have to be able to see the drummer. So that leaves the Keyboardist and bassist, but if you rember Strong Bad was wondering if the Bassists sungalsses lenses fell out so he would have had to of seen him clearly. So that just leaves the key boardist, now I think that because if TBC are running the same gag as we are to never see his face then that would make him be the keyboardist. That's just my idea though.

I don't know if you guys understand what types of sounds instruments make, but there are obviously no keayboards in any of sloshy's music. Just because they say there isn't any lead guitarist doesn't mean there's no guitarist at all. I picture the general stage presece of the band as:

The guy with glasses is the bassist. The guy in the black shirt is the drummer. The guy in the flannel is the guitarist who is turned away from the audience. The vocal duties are really up in the air, unless we want to try and compare the song vocal tracks with the voices in the easter egg.

:You're forgetting however, that keyboard can make all types of sounds. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 23:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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== Needed Clarifications ==

Any information concerning:

Old Game - (Entered As Either Generic Title Or 'It's A Funny Old Game')

Hypou Blade - (Entered As Likely Hyper Blade, But The Reason For The Spelling Is Anyone's Guess...)

K-- Sp---- - (Entered As Kid Speedy, I'm Pretty Confident With That)

Marble Craze (A Paul Slocum Game. Another Mystery Solved)

As to whether or not the information is focused on the correct game, would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to enter something into the discription. I've done the best I can, but if you know of something better, please feel free to edit mine and leave a link or two if possible. Thanks. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:38, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

Apparently, there is no game on The Underdogs that begins with "k" and has another word beginning with "sp". I turned up some unlikely results on Gamefaqs that I will put up when I finish searching (unless you already did this search...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 17:40, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Thank you for your help, I think Kid Speedy is a safe guess. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:35, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Needed Pictures ==

Any pictures of better quality than the ones we have displayed would be appreciated. Most of them are decent enough, with the exceptions of the real floppy disk container from [[Puppet Time]], and any pictures from the DVD. Please have all pics be at least 150 x 150 pixels. Anything more is okay, but less will offset the picture sizes. Thanks. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:38, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Needed Links ==

Any games that only have links to any of the four basic sources, 'Moby', 'Udogs', 'Faqs', and 'Wiki', can also be linked to additional sites. Feel free to link any games to about two or three supplementary info sites, under the generic, and spacesaving, filename of 'Here', in the sources column. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:39, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Misc. Older Conversations ==
=== Standard Image Size ===

Okay, I've gone through and added a "|150px" to every screenshot. I like how this lines up everything in the first column. It also gives a bit more room for the text in the last column. However, this change will not make images bigger than the uploaded file. So do we like 150px? If so, we might want to upload slightly bigger screenshots for those few images.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:35, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Image sizes fixed. Shogun and the hundredth e-mail ones look kinda small, but there's nothing we can really do about that. I think they're good enough.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:00, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I snuck in there and fixed [[:Image:Floppy_flashback.PNG]] and [[:Image:Floppy SBIIJC.PNG]] when you weren't looking. Much better.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:11, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

::Oh, it looks like you replaced my version of the flashback floppy with a different one.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:14, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I was adding images the same time you were. Could you put your flashback one back? If it's anything like Shogun it'll be better. Thanks, and sorry.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:41, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Okay, I'll revert it back to my version. Disregard the instructions I left you on my talk page to do the same.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:48, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

=== Floppy Explanation Sources ===

Hey, you brought up a good point about the floppy summaries. Should we link to the source of each floppy summary. Most of my sources are big gaming history websites, old fansites and the like, sometimes multiple sources. But I really don't want to go back and re-find a source for each one. So should we link to all, or none? Or just a few (a solution I don't really like, I like uniformity). I would prefer to just give the history, and if anyone would like to know more they can always do their own research like I did. Or do you think that's not fair to the sources? I really don't think they'd mind...

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:53, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I totally like linking to sources and additional information. I like Wikipedia the best, but a lot of this information can't be found there. I understand the hassle in re-finding all the places you got your information the first time, but I think it would be best for the page. If you need any help, just give me the method you used and I'll see what I can do.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:46, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, most of my sources were from one of like 3 or 4 large repository sites of old 80's games info. So what I'm doing is going through each of the four sites, searching for each game, and linking the source to the page that comes up, if any. I just finished Moby, I'm going to go through another few later. Once those are all done, then we can still add a fansite or two, or other sites not uniformed. Try to keep the titles of the sites short though, or just write 'here', so as to keep the summaries column large enough. I'll just work away at it, and hopefully it'll be done by noonish.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:43, 18 Oct 2004 (PST)

Sources are done, with a basic structure of the three main sources, (if you can find another one that has about 90% of the titles or more, let me know) each with a special name. I think any additional sources, fansites, ect, should just be named 'Here'. I think it makes sense.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 13:41, 18 Oct 2004 (PST)

=== Remove redundancy ===

Would it be prudent to reduce the duplication of identically named floppy disks and list all the emails that use the same label in the email column? Case in point, the blank disk, tongue of the fatman, lode runner, manhunter. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:35, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:I second this notion and I'm fairly confident our buddy and main organizer of this section [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] would agree with you. By removing said duplicate images and simply using the email column for several email titles, the page can be made shorter (always a plus to keep the attention of page viewers and reduce clutter slightly) and would cease to "violate" the concept of [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and Only Once]].
:--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 10:22, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

I respect your motions, notions, seconds, and checkin's. However, I would have to disagree. Of course, I do not own the page, since this is a Wiki, and therefore do not hold the last word, however I would like the oppourtunity to win you over. My reasonings are simple, and as follows:

# First, it makes the list complete. Granted, the names and pictures and summaries and links are the same, but the location of them are different. Not a big difference, but it's there. Doubling them up would make the column different. Not a big deal, but it's there.
# Second, there are only four of them. It's not alot, and likely there will not be any more ever doubling up. If it happened all the time, I would agree with you.
# Third, two of them can't be doubled up very easily, leaving only two. Since one of these two basically NEEDS to be doubled up, only a few would be non doubled. Basically my argument, is double up all or none.
# Fourth, The blank floppy disk summaries are completely different. One covers the big ones, the other covers the regular ones.
# Fifth, Manhunter New York floppies are not in a row. They're not even in the same section, therefore destroying the sectioning of the page into e-mails and others.
# Sixth, the once and only once policy is not technically violated thanks to templates. A technicallity yes, but it's there.
# Seventh, the length of the page is only increased slightly, approxamently 6 or 7 precent, and the percentage drops after each floppy.
# Eighth, I just like them doubled.

Thats all the arguments I can come up with. Please read them and get back to me. I appreciate your bringing this up instead of just doubling them up yourselves, which is within your right. I hope that you can see it my way, but if you can't, then let me know and we'll discuss some more. I'll probably think up a few arguments later anyways. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 21:27, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

:I Appreciate your comments and I will make sure we come to an agreement before any changes are made. You spent a lot of time on this page and it shows. I will go through each point with my comments.

# Completeness: Having [[little animal]] and [[superhero name]] in the same column would not reduce the completeness of the list. It would only collapse a redundant row. The images are different screen caps, but I can’t tell the difference between them.
# Only four: You are right, it is not a lot, and likely there will not be any more ever doubling up. It is significant as it happens a lot near the beginning of the list and it takes much scrolling to get to a unique disk.
# Two can't be doubled: Which two can’t be doubled? Manhunter? Because one is in an email and the other is a toon? Irrelevant. There is no real need to distinguish the emails from the toons in this case. The second column will be labelled "Appearance" or "location" instead of “email”.
# Blank floppy disk summaries: Both blank images are for 5.25" disk so the summary for both should be the same. The summary for the overall medium should be in the introduction of the page anyway.
# Manhunter not in a row: I've addressed this, making me wonder if I misinterpreted number 3.
# Once and only once policy: Templates have nothing to do with it. The "sources" links and descriptions are needlessly repeated.
# Page length: True! The page length will not decrease significantly. But it will mean less pointless scrolling.
# Like them doubled: Understandable. Even if we had strict article guidelines and formatting rules, each contributor would style the page differently. It is going to happen. I knew this was a pet page, so I didn’t want to ruffle feathers. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 23:49, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

I've gotta say, you make a good case. Alright, how's this? I've made my case, you've made yours. And actually, I wouldn't mind shuffling the page around a bit more, organizing the toons in amongst the e-mails in order of chronology, find a few different ways of doing stuff. You make a good case. So I'll think it over, try and think of a good way of organizing it, and maybe start making changes in a day or so. Since the paper agrees with you as well, as I am sure he likely still will, then I guess the majority wins out. And actually, one thing that I did not consider, which is very possible, is that perhaps the puppet style floppy disk container will start popping up more as well, which will neccessitiate further formating changes. Thank you for your comments, and you've won me over. Provided The Paper still agrees with you. I'll look it over and be in touch. I'm also working another page at the moment, [[Puppet Stuff]]. That, [[Powered by The Cheat]], and I think pretty much all the subheadings of the toons menu are getting explanatory pages. But this page will not be lost in the shuffle, I promise.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 12:55, 28 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, the pictures have been consolidated. Instead of segregating the occurances that weren't in Strong Bad e-mails, I simply sorted them chronologically. That took care of the Manhunter New York problem, since the e-mail and the toon were in a row. I also took the liberty of taking out the 'description' column, which was just as unneeded as mulitiple screenshots and summaries. The title is written right on the floppy disk screenshot, it's also the name of the picture for if you scroll your cursor over the pic, and it's generally the first words of the Explanation. This way the table is freed up a bit, leaving only nessicarry columns. I think the whole layout looks rather good now. If anyone thinks otherwise, feel free to let me know. It's always revertable. Thank you for your comments, and I think the new page looks much better. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:07, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Question: Pre-Piracy Copies, Perhaps? ===

These disks look remarkably like the floppies used in my very own, very aged, very dusty Apple IIGS computer. In fact, I recently found a few old containers of said disks, direct from my computing childhood and actually including such titles as ''World Games'', ''Thexder'', ''Shogun'', and even the original ''Pirates'', and after I had a good eighties-child grin over this discovery, I suddenly remembered that almost all of those disks were '''copied''' (erm, borrowed?) from the immense old-time game collection of a now long-moved-away family friend.

In short, all this made me wonder: are Strong Bad's disks copies? They have the same simple lined labels as my dusty ones, and their titles are clearly written by hand, as were mine. It would make a lot of sense for him to pirate his early software, but not being familiar with the labeling practices of early games, I'm not certain. Yet it would be interesting to note, eh?

Incidentally, I no longer remember playing any of ye olde IIGS games. I do, however, recall playing ''Odell Lake''. Oh the shame. The shame.

[[User:Queenie-C|Queenie-C]] 03:13, 01 Dec 2004 (PST)

:That is quite true. All of my old shareware games I bought, they always did have real lables. By the looks of them, you're right! They likely are copied. However, just writing the titles are alot easier to paste into the toons then getting actual title graphics. Long story short, they probably did that because it was easier, not as a refferance to pirating. Good observation though. It does make you wonder... ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 19:09, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

They might be legal backup copies. In the floppy disk era, it was not uncommon to make a backup copy for daily use, in order to reduce wear and tear on the original master disk. 12 August 2005

=== Why no split. ===

I removed the split in the table that Thunderbird added. The table is still a table, and I don't quite understand how a spilt helps any. If it was simply so that people editing didn't have to scroll down so much in the edit box, I can almost understand, but it's not an acceptable reason. Additionally, the "Emails #1-99" and "Emails #100+" lines were incorrect, as these disks aren't simply from emails.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:08, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I feel so ashamed. Yea, it was because when you did edit it, you were editing such a large page. That way you could edit only half a page at a time. And I knew the titles were wrong, I didn't quite know what to call them and figured a better title would come along eventually. Sorry. Okay, I won't try that again. But I still get points for fixing the synopsis of 'colorado' from the state to the game, right? '''Edit:''' Sorry if I sounded serious. For future refference, everything I say I say with a smile.
''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 18:20, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

::Hey, there's no need to feel ashamed or anything. I just wanted to explain my revert and all. No problem at all.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:52, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== Floppy Disk Container Plus ===

What does the "Plus" mean? {{User:Rainer/sig}} 03:38, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Actually, funny you should bring it up. Back when I started making this page, there was already a 'Floppy Disk Container' page, which simply had a list of the appearances, and what the title said. That was it. No extra information or anything. So I came along, and started up a new page, with screenshots, info, ect, kinda as a trial, under the page title 'Floppy Disk Contianer With Screenshots', soon after changed to simply 'Floppy Disk Container Plus'. It worked for the better, and eventually the origional page was edged out. Now all that remains there is a Redirect. It does makes way more sense to move it to Floppy Disk Container and make a redirect here instead, then slowly work through the links and try and move them all over. I've been thinking about it for a while, but I'm just a lazy procrastinator, which is a really bad combo. So are you up for the task, or do you want me to do it? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 16:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::I went ahead and moved all the content from the Floppy Disk Container Plus article to here as well as this talk page. I even changed all the links and modified the redirect to it works properly (I hope!). Hopefully Thunderbird does not mind too much that his pride and joy has been moved. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 22:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I managed to fix it, but please use the [[MetaWikiPedia:Help:Moving a page|move command]] in the future, as the manner in which this was done effectively deleted over 260 individual edits.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== TI-99/4A ===

I made an edit a week or two ago, correcting a mistake. Someone had said that Hunt the Wumpus was a game for the "TI-99" and "4A" calculators. I changed this to the "TI-994A home entertainment console" and someone reverted the change, saying that wasn't likely.

There was a TI-994A (or 99/4A) home entertainment console, and Hunt the Wumpus was indeed a game for it. In fact, the MobyGames link links to the TI-99/4A version. I know this because I owned one of those consoles and that game. It came out in the early 1980s.

The TI-99 doesn't seem to be a calculator, and neither does the TI-4A. The highest model at the moment is the TI-92+. Texas Instruments was also not producing graphing calculators in 1981.

I'm going to change the paragraph back and direct naysayers to read the references:

TI-99/4A:
http://www.99er.net/ti.shtml
http://oldcomputers.net/ti994a.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-99/4A

TI Calculators:
http://www.ticalc.org/basics/calculators/

: I think I was the one who had deleted it, and here's why: I had never heard of such a console, I couldn't find any evidence of such a console, and the MobyGames link was too vague. And looking at your links, I see why: there ''was'' no such thing as a TI-99/4A home entertainment console - the machine to which you refer was a computer, not a video game system. Sorry for changing it, but next time, make sure you actually replace the wrong information with information that is more correct. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Jay: I won't split hairs with you by going back and changing it again. However, I still contend that the 99/4A could be considered a home entertainment console. It came with joysticks and took cartridges that contained games. It hooked up to a television.

At least it isn't listed as a graphing calculator anymore :)

::Using the Wiki link, I rewrote the article a bit, and hopefully clarified it to the satisfaction of all involved. There really isn't enough space in the article to do the history of the game justice, not to meantion all of the platforms it has been on, so I think this 'BASIC' description is good enough. Everyone happy with it? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 23:59, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Split? ===
This page is way too long. It needs to be split. But now? Alphabetically? Time period? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I think by Time Period. {{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}
:The problem with that is that some floppy disks appear in two seperate toons/emails. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:13, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess Alphabetically is good. {{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}

This page isn't nearly long enough to split. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's the second biggest page in the wiki! I suppose it doesn't have to be split, but it sure would make things easier... whatever. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:10, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Yea, it is kind of a quandry. Personally, I think it's okay. Despite it being long, it's all on one subject. There's no real oppourtunity for it to be split. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:14, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::I also think this page is not nearly long enough to split.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:34, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== you JERK! ==

I uploaded this picture a while ago, and was wondering if it could be put in here. [[Image:You jerk!.PNG|thumb|150px|you JERK!]] --{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 16:28, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've often thought about this oddity, the only labled floppy that isn't a game. Though I belive that it does have a place on this page, since the precident is set with the [[Peasant's Quest]] and [[Where's an Egg?]] floppies - they don't have the container included either. The pic is large enough (at least 150x150px), but unfortunitly it is in the JPG format. We only use PNG's here, they come out better on the internet. If you'd like to re-upload the pic in PNG format, I'd be happy to whip up some sort of summary for it. Let me know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:06, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::I re-uploaded the picture as a .png, so the .jpg can be deleted. --{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 20:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:::No, it still has the same problems that occured when you changed it into a JPEG. I'll go take the snapshot again and not mess it up. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:17, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Fixed! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:could this be a reference to the u-jerk pickups from gta? not that tbc would promote gta. at any rate, it is remeniscent {{User:Csours/sig}} 16:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::No. The reason was because The Cheat thought Strong Bad was a jerk for offering recipies on how to cook The Cheat. There's no deeper meaning. Especially with GTA, that's FAR too much of a stretch. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:17, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Link Format ==

This link format really bothers me. The extra brackets don't need to be there and the links can be made wiki-links. Though it's a lot of links to do in one sitting for me right now. Also, I was tempted to link this in the SBemail template (same for the computer room) but i added cats instead. The main SBemail article does not seem to link to either article. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, that was me, and it did start out as a mistake. But then when I fixed it, the columns of "little arrow graphics" denoting "outside the wiki" were slightly cut off on the top without the brackets. I'm not quite sure why, and I tried an edit summary just now, and it seems the problem has since been fixed, likely with a recent upgrade. So now, yeah, we should fix them. But before we do, what about seeing if one of the Admins will add the four sources as a "Quick Link" format, similar to Wikipedia or IMBD? Wikipedia's already there, but intentially NOT quicklinked for the sake of conformity. So what do you guys think of those ideas? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Podcast background ==

[[Image:Floppy podcast background.png|thumb|Unreadable?]]
Any ideas? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think I see "of the" in the middle. Of course, that only tells us so much, but maybe it's a start. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's Silence of the Lambs. It will be nice to see that! {{User:That is Truly an Apple/sig}} ~~
::it appears that the first word has 3 or possibly 4 letters more than the middle line to make 9 or 10 letters. i dont think it could be discoveries of the deep because the first d would stick up more, and it would be longer on the first line, but, meh, why confuse things {{User:Csours/sig}} 20:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
*possibles:
**discoveries of the deep
**defenders of the earth (cmdr 64)
**footballer of the year (cmdr 64)
**defender of the crown (cmdr 64)
**tongue of the fatman (not likely)
**vengeance of the kilrathi (less likely)
**chronicles of the sword( not likely, came out in 1996, most games in the box are much older)
**children of the atom (possible reference to the newness of the podcast, but, again its a newer game than most in the box)
**legend of the sword (dos and amiga, 1988)
**guardian of the fleet (1994)
**wargame of the century (empire) (not likely)
**shadow of the beast (not likely)
*palm os
**legend of the orb
**secret of the orb (possibly the same game)
{{User:Csours/sig}} 21:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

::Wow! Excellent work there, <strike>Thesaurus</strike> Csours. It'll take me a while to sort through all those possibilities, and I can't do it right now, but I'll try and get on it ASAP. Anybody have any favorites from the list? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:::ive been looking at this again, messing around with the jpeg in paintstyle program and it may say 'animations of bad toons{or pies}' (toons{pies} is the word i am least sure of) any way i think the third word is either 'bad' or 'red' or something other than 'the'. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I thought I'd go a different way and see how those titles actually work in the Ahnberg Hand font (SB'S handwriting). Didn't come much further, but it's apparently "the", not "bad".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:44, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5528/podcastfloppylabelpe3.png
:::::hmmm. ima have to pick up that font and do some serious 'research'. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:I tend to think that the first word starts with a "un" and i keep seeing the last word as being "town" or "light", but that's just my opinion. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 00:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

:I've been sitting as far from my screen as possible, while also tilting my laptop screen back and forth. I find that it helps to see things better. I don't think that the third word is 'the', since the red ink goes high at the end of the word. I think 'bad' is better. Also, the bottom of 'f' in 'of' seems to almost blend with the top of the first letter in the bottom word. I think 'toons' might be a good match. The first word is tough, though, but I don't see any tall letters in it, such as 'h', 't', 'b', or 'd'.

:I think, personally, that the reading of the podcast background, unless somebody gets some seriously it-came-straight-from-one-of-the-brothers-chap's-mouths style info, is totally subjective and any old demi-fan could say "I think it's 'murfreesboro on not peaches'!" and it would have to be a legitamate guess. I'm not saying I dislike your ideas at all, just that it's subjective and the descriptor should solely say that it is unreadable. not to be a snob or nothin', but it's not objective enough for a wiki. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 03:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

== Gold Rush was an Adventure game ==

I just played this recently, and it still is. :) The same goes for the use of past tense in the other game descriptions; it's just strange (and incorrect) to read. Retodon8 19:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

== Wraith ==
I'm not sure that Wraith means Wraith: The Oblivion. Wraith: The Oblivion is a pen-and-paper RPG (D&D style), not something you could get on a floppy.
Googling found two DOS games named Wraith: [http://www.download-game.com/Wraith.htm an adventure] and [http://www.dosgames.com/g_rpg.php a RPG]

:Wow, you're quite right. Between the two links you gave me, I would have to assume it is the first one, simply because the second link was released in 1995, and I don't think any of their floppies have been games any later than around 1991. The first link didn't give any clue as to it's release date, (I even downloaded the game and read the readme file), but no luck. In any case, since the entry is a Pen and Paper RPG, I'm gonna change it to your second link, with what info we have. Thanks for your help, any further help would also be appreciated. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad a Pirate? ==

Strong Bad is a bad guy. We know this. He says so. But he appears to want to prove it by having pirated copies of all of these games. All of the labels are hand-written so either he puts new labels on all the games or simply has copies of all of them. Anyone else think this is worth mentioning? I wasn't sure if it was so thought I'd throw it out there for discussion. [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 04:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[[Talk:Floppy Disk Container#Question: Pre-Piracy Copies, Perhaps?|ABP]]'d! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

D'oh! I ''did'' read through the page before asking that, but I read right past that part. Oh well... [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 17:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== below the root ==

not that strong bad is is a linux/unix user, but root is a computer word, and everything in the computer would be below the root, as when you get to root level, you cannot go higher. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:Or it's [[Wikipedia:Below the Root|the computer game]], like we mention in the article. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

::yea, i didnt mean instead of, i meant side note kind of thing....{{User:Csours/sig}} 17:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

==LucasFilm Games Vs LucasArts==

a very minor nit pick but a couple of times in this article the phrase "LucasFilm (now LucasArts) Games" pops up, this seems to suggest the the current name of George Lucas' games company is LucasArts Games, which it isnt its just plain old LucasArts. So shouldnt that line read "LucasFilm Games (now LucasArts)" instead?

:Quite right. You could have just changed it, but this is fine too. I'll go switch 'em around. Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

i've found i sometimes need to make my argument first round here or it just gets reverted.

:If you sign your posts (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) you'll get better known, and that seems to lead to people trusting you more. If I'm making an edit that I think others will not agree with, I also post in Talk, like you did. And, hey, stuff gets reverted! It's how it is, no biggie, right? But good call on the above. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Home of the Underdogs - site moved ==

Per [[WikiPedia:Home of the Underdogs|this article in Wikipedia]] , it appears that [http://www.the-underdogs.org the-underdogs.org] is no longer in service. The new URL is [http://www.the-underdogs.info the-underdogs.info].

Someone with some time on their hands might want to revise the URLs for the HoTU links on this page until the .org site is revived.
:Thanks for the info (no pun intended). Anyone wanna take this up? I could do it if y' don't... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'm happy to do it in a day or so, if you guys don't mind waiting. I've noticed UDogs has been struggling lately, and I've been meaning to look into it and update the links. Thanks for the heads up. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Update''' Looks like [[User:Phlip|somebody]] has more time on their hands. :P {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Come on, man, that took like 10 seconds... even Notepad has Search & Replace these days... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 19:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== Lovecraft ==
Well, it just goes to show that he IS everywhere.
 P.S. ha ha huh he ha hah!
Na na nah ne na nah!--{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 11:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== BioForge ==

Don't know if it's worth mentioning - the BioForge game was released on CD only, so SB wouldn't be able to actually have it on diskette, even if it was pirated (he would need more than 100 diskettes for that). This raises an alternative to the piracy theory: SB doesn't actually have games on those diskettes, but rather just sticks labels on them. {{User:Groboclown/sig}} 14:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== "Coloring" scene ==

I believe email 160 is one of the emails where the camera has a view of SB's desk, so... is there even a floppy disk container present? If so, can anybody add it in the list? (11 Dec. 2006)

:Sadly, the location where the Floppy Disk Container ''would'' have been was both replaced by the colouring book and blocked by Strong Bad's husky head. So the sad fact of the matter is that The Brothers Chaps didn't bother putting an unreadable floppy in this email. (They did that once in [[lackey]], they stuck the border on top of the container) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

== Cakewalk ==

Surely "Cakewalk" from "cliffhanger" would refer to the old MIDI sequencer rather than an Atari 2600 game?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_(sequencer) [[User:74.101.83.189|74.101.83.189]] 15:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:The majority of the appearances refer to old computer games – usually from NES or Atari era... same as a lot of other game refs on the site, that's the era of games TBC seem to identify with... which whould make the game much more likely than the sequencer. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::Well, the 1991 release of Cakewalk would put it in the right timeframe. Besides, it seems to me that this is the only game in the current list that (as a console game) was never actually released on floppies (with the exception of Marble Craze, which is special for other reasons). [[User:65.92.17.150|65.92.17.150]] 15:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

== I can count to D! ==

As it happens, there IS a videogame called "D".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28video_game%29

I do not, in fact, know anything about it, aside from the fact that it exists. But there it is. And it was, according to the article, released on the PC, among other things. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

montage

Sompm — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:35:24 GMT

Sompm: changed the thumbnail caption to the song lyric

{{sbenav|117}}
[[Image:sbemail117.png|thumb|"You're a girl. Or maybe a wagon. Filled up with pancakes."]]

Strong Bad "creats" a few montages about a wagon fulla pancakes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Pond]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Race Track]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Stick]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, November 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:15

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{announcing}'' Tonight on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Why don't you creat a montage? 
 
Steve 
Surf City, NJ</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "creat" as "cree-at" and reads NJ as "No Job"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''{in a high-pitched, mocking voice}'' Oooohhh! Why don't you creat an alternate reality where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down! ''{Strong Bad clears the screen and continues typing in normal voice.}'' A montage, eh Watered Down? Like, about whatever? Okay. I'll make a montage about...

''{cut to an empty field}''

Me. ''{Strong Bad appears}''

And a wagon. ''{a wagon appears, and a short tune starts playing}''

Full of pancakes. ''{pancakes appear in the wagon}''

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad and the wagon walking past Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

''{Wipe to a field where Strong Bad kicks the wagon calmly.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad pulling the wagon uphill. Music stops when Strong Bad starts speaking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, or maybe a montage of me falling in love with the wagon full of pancakes.

''{Heart wipe to Strong Bad in a boat with the wagon. They are both holding glasses of wine, romantic music starts playing.}''

''{singing}''

Let's make this moment be the symbol of our lives 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon listening to a Taranchula LP on headphones.}'' 
We'll pawn your dad's computer 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon, under the stars. Strong Bad points to some shooting stars in the distance.}'' 
and we'll sail to paradise 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon spinning around, holding "hands".}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at the movies. Strong Bad drops some popcorn.}'' 
You're a girl... or maybe a wagon... 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Bad puts ketchup on some fries while laughing and smiling.} 
filled up with pancakes 
''{Cut to Strong Bad frolicking across a field as the wagon follows.}'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe a montage of the wagon full of pancakes—

''{Cut to a front door view of The Cheat and the wagon, both sporting business-class fedoras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and The Cheat being down-on-their-luck door-to-door salesmen.

''{Cut to The Cheat lying in the wagon as the wagon rolls past.}''

''{Several doors slam on The Cheat at different angles.}''

''{singing}''
You can't do it so give up now 
Whatcha gonna do when your dough runs out? 
Ain't that a drag? 
''{Cut to the wagon sitting in an arm chair while the Cheat lies on the floor in front, smoking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops singing.}'' No, I got it. A montage of the wagon full of pancakes training—

''{Cut to Homestar in a black shirt that says "The #1" looking at the wagon in a field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —for the championship.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A wagon fulla pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!

''{Zoom in on pancakes as training music starts to play.}''

''{Cut to the wagon climbing the stairs of a stadium.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}''
Guts, guts, and might ''{The wagon's handle slowly collapses on top of a barbell.}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon on a track.}'' 
Lifting weights and feeling all right ''{Strong Bad clicks a stop watch.''} 
''{Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad and the wagon running past a sunset and an ocean.}'' 
It's a showdown going downtown 
You're gonna mess around showdown 
''{Cut to the wagon ascending the bleachers again.}'' 
Put your nose down showdown 
''{Cut to quick shot of wagon jumping up and down at the top of the bleachers.}'' 

''{Cut to Homestar Runner and the wagon in a gym as Coach Z looks on in a referee costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-yah! Hi-yah! ''{Homestar kicks.}''

''{The wagon's handle falls on Homestar, just like it did while training with the barbell, and Homestar falls down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oof!

'''COACH Z:''' The pamcakes wins!

''{A buzzer sounds and the score changes from 6–6 to 6–7 on the scoreboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Showdown.

''{Cut to Strong Bad at the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Those were some good montages, eh Watered Down? That was like, a montage of montages. The only thing we left out is the end credits photo montage. ''{Music starts up}'' Hit it!

''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the boat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}''
Partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon on the beach.}''
It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the movie theater.}'' 
''{Cut to a closeup of The Cheat lying on the floor.}'' 
'''CAPTION:''' The Cheat never sold a single box of toner. He is currently unemployed. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And a wagon... ''party party party''. 
Full of pancakes... 
''{Cut to Homestar kicking in the gym.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Homestar sold his "The #1" shirt for $3(US). He got a good deal. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad frolicing across the field, the wagon not in the photo.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Strong Bad went on to host some show on Animal Planet. 
It was cancelled before the first commercial break. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to the wagon with a fedora.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': After winning the champeenship, the Wagon Fulla Pancakes did some local TV spots for a used car dealership. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
Everybody does it tonnniiight... 
'''CAPTION''': It currently resides in Long Beach with its spouse and 2 children.

''{Homestar quits singing.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down onto the photo.}''

''{Wait a bit at the end to see what becomes of The Paper.}''

'''CAPTION''': The Paper stuck around until
email #173, at which time Strong Bad
upgraded to an inkjet printer.

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end, click on "4 Wheels" on the wagon to see Homestar, undefeated in spirit.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the now dark champeenship stadium}''
:I'm the best around
:Sombadubba sombadubba, take me down!
:I'm the best around!
:Dubba dubba dubbado, take me down!
:''{His score on the score board behind him turns from 0 to -1 as the buzzing sound is heard.}''

*At the end, click on "Strong Bad" to see another scene.
:''{Highly pixelated versions of Strong Bad wearing a pink jogging suit and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes are running through a highly pixelated city, which is the NYC backdrop (minus the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|World Trade Center]] towers) from Punch-Out from the NES.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a showdown going downtown
:You're gonna mess around showdown
:Put your nose down showdown

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*In filmic terms, scholars [[Wikipedia:David Bordwell|David Bordwell]] and Kristin Thompson define a [[Wikipedia:Montage (film)|montage]] sequence as "a segment of film which summarizes a topic or compresses a passage of time into brief symbolic or typical images." Also, montage sequences generally represent a longer passage of time than the also-typical "dissolve" or "fade" techniques between shots.

===Trivia===
*In the original version of this e-mail, the background was static while Strong Bad and the wagon were spinning around. It has since been fixed to blurred trees.
*This email introduces an updated, more symmetrical version of the gray "horns" on Strong Bad's mask.

===Remarks===
*Homestar gets less money for a shirt than he gets for a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[HR:auction.html|"Some Type of Online Auction"]].
*Strong Bad probably changed Steve's name to Watered Down to prevent another "[[Eh! Steve!]]" crack, like he did in [[kids' book]] and [[different town]].
*The scoreboard in the gym has the word "TIMES" written under the timer.

===Goofs===
*As The Cheat keeps getting doors slammed in his face as a salesman, the last place he visits with the blue wall and white door, the door frame ends before the bottom of the toon's frame, and the right end of the door ends before the right of the frame.

===Glitches===
*Between The Wagon's picture and The Paper's picture, there's a split-second sound clip that sounds like the beginning of "It's" from the Champeenship montage, and the Easter egg at the end.

===Inside References===
*The scene with Strong Bad and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes sitting in the canoe is reminiscent of [[lures & jigs]], where Strong Bad and Coach Z fish in the exact same spot. This is probably prompted by the [[lures & jigs]] DVD Commentary, in which [[The Brothers Chaps]] decide to reuse the lake, and which was presumably recorded before this email came out. In doing so, TBC also reused [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the [[Quite Fancy 'Chup|ketchup]] and fries from [[funny]], the [[The Halloween House|house]] from [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and [[The Movie Theatre]] from [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*The song Strong Bad sings when he falls in love with the wagon is reminiscent of the style of [[The Kinda Long-Haired Band]].
*The [[Taranchula]] album cover is the same one from the liner notes of [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], on which their song [[Moving Very Slowly]] appears. The name "Taranchula" also appears in the e-mail [[band names]].
*The first and last house that The Cheat and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes stop at are the same house. They are also the same format of the house that you give treats from in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Besides the [[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge|smoking game]] and [[big white face]], this is the first actual cartoon in which we see [[Smoking#The Cheat's Smoking|The Cheat smoking]]. Strong Bad originally acknowledged The Cheat's nicotine habit in [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*The sparkling water seen while Strong Bad is running on the horizon seems to be the same from [[Main Page 3]].
*The lyric "Lifting weights and feeling all right", from the song played during the training montage, may be a reference to [[dangeresque 3]]'s "Riding in a Corvette and feeling all right" lyric.
*"The #1" T-Shirt is loosely referenced by Strong Sad in the commentary of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search Of The Yello Dello]].
**Though the shirt Strong Sad refers to says "''I'm'' #1" according to him, as opposed to "''The'' #1."
*Strong Bad has a problem identifying things that rhyme with "agon" in song. In this email, he mistakes a wagon for a girl, and in [[dragon]] he mistakes a dragon for a man, or maybe a dragon man. He catches the mistake both times.
*The buzzer used for the scoreboard is the same as the [[DELETED]] buzzer.
*The score of -1 is the first instance of an [[Scoreboard#Irregular Scores|irregular score]].

===Real-World References===
*The song Homestar is singing in the Easter egg ("You're the Best") comes from the 1984 classic ''[[Wikipedia:The_Karate_Kid|The Karate Kid]]''. Homestar's headband, bearing the design of an old Japanese flag, is also a reference to this film, and has appeared before in both [[pom pom]] and [[Theme Song Video]].
**There is actually a song called "Training Montage" from Rocky IV by Vince DiCola.
**The scene during which "You're the Best" plays in ''The Karate Kid'' is another well-known martial arts training montage.
*Much of the wagon's training sequence (especially the wagon "running" up the stairs) is a parody of the training sequence from the immortal boxing epic, ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]'', including the "[[Wikipedia:Rocky Steps|Rocky steps]]".
*The Strong Bad Easter egg is a take on the popular [[Nintendo|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!]]'', in which players saw a similar sequence in between bouts of various boxing circuits (the jumps from Minor to Major, and from Major to World).
**The ''Punch-Out!!'' sequence itself was a clear reference to the training sequence in ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]''.
*There actually is a system call in the [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix]] operating system called <tt>creat</tt>. It creat(e)s a new file.
*The "some guy from a zoo" line by Strong Bad during the "Late-Night Talk Show"-style intro is most likely a reference to how such shows often resort to the gimmick of having zoo workers appear on the show, accompanied by their animal partners, whose mischievous antics can often get a cheap laugh from the audience.
*The line about Strong Bad's show being canceled before the commercial break may be a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Turn-On|Turn-On]]'', which was pre-empted by many affiliates a mere 10 minutes into its pilot episode.
*The End Credits Photo Montage song is reminiscent of the ''[[Wikipedia:Queen (band)|Queen]]'' song "Headlong."
*''[[Wikipedia:Animal Planet|Animal Planet]]'' is a TV network devoted to programs about animals and nature.
* The "Where are they now" photos and text at the end of the email are a likely reference to the ending of the 1973 film [[Wikipedia:American Graffiti|American Graffiti]], where it was first used, or the 1978 movie [[Wikipedia:National Lampoon's Animal House|National Lampoon's Animal House]].

===Fast Forward===
[[Image:The Paper---Shreder'd + montage.PNG|thumb|220px|right|'Twas foretold]]
*The Wagon Fulla Pancakes really ''does'' do some spots for a used car dealership, as it shows up in a commercial for [[Senor Cardgage]]'s in [[Senorial Day]].
*Strong Bad and his pink suit from the Easter egg show up again in [[rock opera]].
*Homestar's "weekend" song plays at [[The King of Town]]'s party of [[boring (really)]].
*The "Showdown" song plays while Pom Pom and Homestar work out in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Paper does indeed stick around until email #173 ([[the paper]]), at which time Strong Bad actually does upgrade to an [[New Paper|inkjet printer]]. This change was also foreshadowed in email 172 ([[more armies]]) when The Paper comes down torn and sick looking. Strong Bad remarks that "that's a bad sign".

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MATT:''' Listen... ''{Strong Bad says, "actress Marzipan" in the background.}'' And we've got Marzipan right here with us!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, indecipherable}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' He called you an actress. Isn't that nice?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' Seems like usually he calls you something worse than that.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

''{Matt and Mike both laugh.}''

'''MIKE:''' You're doing a good job acting right now, saying the word "yeah" over and over again.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thank you.

'''MATT:''' Oh, thank you. A new word.

'''MARZIPAN:''' So, what are we here for, today?

'''MIKE:''' We're doing the commentary for the "montage" email.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We're here in this tiny, glass-enclosed booth, recording some commentary.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It is getting smelly in here, too.

'''MATT:''' It is. Mike and I have been in here all day.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It smells like Fritos.

'''MIKE:''' Have you ever seen this email before?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I... haven't.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Look, he's got a wagon fulla pancakes, isn't that something?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Those are not real pancakes.

'''MIKE:''' No? What are they?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I dunno, I think they're made out of plaster.

'''MATT:''' Look, Mike, there's the lake that did appear later as per your, uh, prophecy on the old DVD.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Your comments of the—

'''MIKE:''' ''{indecipherable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that we were going to use it later and— and we did, just a few weeks after that I think.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It really is starting to smell.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Let's comment more on the— on the email. Is that— that was completely new, that— I mean it looks kind of like the one from — can't say "job" — doesn't it? But that theater—?

'''MIKE:''' It's been modified for the theater, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Um, we should head back there someday, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' And maybe we will.

'''MATT:''' For a movie.

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your friend The Cheat.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Look, the pancakes are wearing a hat, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I see.

'''MATT:''' And holding a briefcase somehow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And now they're enjoying a highball.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that The Cheat smoked!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a problem.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that—

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' There's your boyfriend.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar had that— that's ''my'' shirt.

'''MATT:''' That's yours? Uh oh, 'cause he sells it later on in this email, so—

'''MARZIPAN:''' That was mine! I was wondering what happened to it.

'''MATT:''' He got a good deal for it, at least.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What'd he get?

'''MATT:''' Uh, I'm not sure. Probably, like, 17 dollars.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll tell him he needs to split the proceeds.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' He should. Sounds like it should ''all'' go to you; it was ''your'' shirt.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' A nice sunset.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's okay.

''{Pause}''

'''MATT:''' Ohhh, Homestar looks like Daniel LaRusso. His Karate's a joke.

'''MIKE:''' "You think you can rely on that crane crap?"

'''MARZIPAN:''' He's actually trained in Tae Kwon Do.

'''MATT:''' Really? Homestar is?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's probably why he didn't do well with the Karate.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Oh ho! He learned the wrong martial art.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' What do you think of this, um, end of the— end of the movie photo montage?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think it's okay.

'''MATT:''' See, look. Oh! He— no, sorry, I lied. He got it for three bucks. Not 17.

'''MIKE:''' You got a buck-fifty comin' to ya.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I— Animal Planet's my favorite program.

'''MATT:''' Hey, isn't "cancelled" spelled wrong there?

'''MIKE:''' Was it?

'''MATT:''' I think "cancelled" only has one L. Let's change that before we put out this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' We can— ''{Pause}'' Oh, it's not over yet.

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not, Marzipan.

'''MIKE:''' You might think it's over, but it's not.

'''MATT:''' Say something!

'''MIKE:''' Now it's over.

===Fun Facts===
*Daniel LaRusso is the name of the main character from ''[[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]]''.
*"Cancelled" appears on both the website and DVD. Though both are correct ways of spelling, "canceled" is generally a more American way of spelling it.
*Unlike her prior DVD commentary appearances in emails 1-100, Marzipan has largely dropped the premise that homestarrunner.com is a show and not "real" life.
*"Can't Say Job" is the name of the HTML and Flash files for [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tae Kwon Do|Tae Kwon Do]] (literally ''hand and foot art'') is a Korean form of martial arts.

== External Links ==
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[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

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Sompm — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:04:42 GMT

Sompm: two urls??!?!?!? see remarks

{{sbenav|133}}
[[Image:Strong Bad Email 133.png|thumb|"Buttdance again! Like the rhythm's down your pants now!"]]

Strong Bad tells us his "bottom 10."

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Horrible Painting]], {{Film|Marshie}}, [[Nibbles]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Unseen Characters|Lady]], [[Limozeen]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Strong Mad's Room]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 11, 2005

'''Running time:''' 4:59

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' This email is making fun of you.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Bottom 10</div>
To Weak Bad 
What is your bottom 10?
 
From someone stronger than you</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, this person made all kinds of typos. Lemme type this...

''{He changes "Weak Bad" to "Strong Bad".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They forgot this...

''{He adds "the Good Dancer" after "Strong Bad".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They got this wrong...

''{He changes "Someone stronger than you" to "Someone that is ''a girl''" with the phrase "a girl" italicized and in pink.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, there we go! ''{typing}'' Oh, Simone! You seem like a ''{in pink}'' ''really'' nice girl, so I'll answer your question ''{in pink}'' ''relatively'' free of charge. "Strong Bad's Bottom 10" is as follows:

''{Cut to Strong Badia. The "Strong Bad's Bottom 10" Logo flies in from the top of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Number Ten is easy. Dry T-Shirt Contests.

''{A Dry T-Shirt contest flyer for J. Stumblers Bar and Sometimes Grill flies in from the top.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You'll never find a more degrading contest or a larger waste of not water.

''{The flyer flies away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Creeping in at Numbah Nine is that horrible painting that's been in Strong Mad's closet since we were little.

''{Dramatic music starts playing, and we cut to the door of Strong Mad's closet. Strong Bad is there, sliding the door open slowly.}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' ''{menacing, under its breath}'' Come on in heeeeere.

''{Strong Bad screams and slams the door. He begins flailing around, uttering "jibblie" over and over, almost incoherently. Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Incidentally, the jibblies currently occupy Slot number Eleven ''{numbers ten and nine shift up to show'' <nowiki>*</nowiki>11. The Jibblies <nowiki>*</nowiki>Not in bottom 10 ''in gray}'' on my Bottom 10. ''{Number eleven slides out of frame. Ten and nine return to their former positions.}'' Numboo Eight is the one you should ''all'' pay close attention to: Emails with more than one "Fwd:" or "Re:" ''{pronounces "fwd" and "re" as written}'' in the Subject line.

''{Cut to the computer room. Strong Bad is preparing to answer an email.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Back out of my way, so I can check some email.

''{Strong Bad presses enter, and the email appears. However, the subject line fills up the screen, consisting entirely of "Fwd:" and "Re:". The subject line continues scrolling while Strong Bad talks.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, great. Let me guess: ''{in a mocking voice}'' "It's true! You saw it on the news!" Or, "Hey, sounds crazy, but thought it was worth a shot!"

''{Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, a shot in the face, maybe. Now, Seven is something that's been going on for ''way'' too long. Miniaturized versions of already bite-sized food.

''{An ad for Fluffy Puff Marshmallows appears.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Yowza! Guess who birfday it is! ''{a question mark appears}'' Mine!

''{The lights suddenly go out, and Marshie winces in pain as the noise of an electric shock plays. A miniature Marshie walks onto the screen, with Homsar's movement noise.}''

'''NIBBLES:''' ''{Marshie appears to be getting mad during the time Nibbles is saying this}'' Sorry, Marshie, but it's ''my'' birfday. I'm one years old. My name's Nibbles, for new Fluffy Puff Marshmallows bite-si—

'''ANNOUNCER:''' All-new Fluffy Puff Bite-Size Nibblers are perfect for newborn-type babies ''{a baby emerges from a mountain of Nibblers, and then ducks back down}'', and scalding hot chocolate ''{pull back to reveal the marshmallows atop a cup of hot chocolate, which catches on fire}''. No more mouth strain with Fluffy Puff Nibblers!

''{A mouth is shown straining at a full-size marshmallow. The caption reads "You Got Mouth Strain?" with a red circle and line "no" symbol drawn through it. The symbol rolls away as the marshmallow changes to a Nibbler. The mouth smiles and the caption reads "Heck No!!"}''

'''NIBBLES:''' I make good earplugs, too.

'''MARSHIE:''' ''{Flies onto the screen and knocks Nibbles away.}'' Get out of here, you little runt! ''{Marshie winces again, causing the electrical shock noise to return. The commercial suddenly pauses, and PAUSE appears on the bottom-left corner of the screen.}''

''{Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And-a Numba Six-a: the Foul Stench of Wet The Cheat.

''{Cut to The Field. The Cheat is standing there, soaked and shivering. Next to him, is a ladder, a cup, and a sign that says "HIGH DIVES – 5 bucks." Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And number Five, um... not... ''{music stops}'' pigeons. ''{a pigeon starts cooing}'' They eat breadcrumbs. Take craps on people. Funny stuff. NUMBER FOUR! ''{music plays again}'' There was this one time where I had to hug a tree.

''{Cut to the field. Strong Bad and Homestar are there, and Strong Bad is hugging a tree.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Keeeep ooon huggin' it.

'''STRONG BAD:''' How did you get me to do this in the first place?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hug it! Hug it!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And why do I continue to do it?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Keep on huggin' it. Hug it down.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't even like this tree that much.

''{Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh, now we're getting to the good ones. Number Three is the ridiculous trend of giving chocolate desserts dangerous names. You know, like, Chocolardiac Arrest. ''{a picture of Chocolardiac Arrest appears}''

'''LADY:''' ''{Voice}'' Oh, that looks ''sinful.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or... THIS BROWNIE MIGHT KILL YOU. ''{a picture of said brownie appears}''

'''LADY:''' ''{Voice}'' Oh, this is so ''rich.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or, quite possible the least appetizing name of all time... Chocozuma's Revenge! ''{a picture of Chocozuma's Revenge appears}''

'''LADY:''' ''{Voice}'' This is all fat-free, right?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up, lady! ''{the pictures slide off the top of the screen}'' Slumming in at Number Two are songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's as legit lyrics. As evidenced in Limozeen's bizarrely titled "Feed The Childrens." ''{the album art of "Feed The Childrens" appears}''

<div id="Feed_The_Childrens">
'''LIMOZEEN SOLO:''' 
Na, na, la la laaaaa, 
Hey, hey! Doo-doot doo! [[#Footnote|[1]]] 
Na, na, la la laaaaa, 
Hey, hey! Doo-doot doo!

'''LIMOZEEN:''' 
Na, na, la la laaaaa, 
Hey, hey! Doo-doot doo!
<div>

''{A record scratches, the song stops, and the album art slides off the screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, what were they thinking? More like, "We need to feed our children, so we made this terrible song." And, the Number One item on Strong Bad's Bottom 10 is Th—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad. ''{camera zooms out to a two-shot of Homestar and Strong Bad}'' What about my bottom—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Nobody wants to hear ''your'' bottom 10, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, no. Not my Bottom 10. My bottom! You know, ''{turns around and starts doing a buttdance, singing}'' buttdance again, like the rhythm's down your pants now!

''{Homestar stops and turns around again, looking on in confusion as Strong Bad begins to make vomiting noises. Cut to the Lappy, which has the Bottom 10 displayed, where Strong Bad then vomits onto his keyboard, off camera.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh. Ugh. ''{weakly}'' And the Number One item on Strong Bad's Bottom 10 is... Th ''{typing}'' cleaning up your own puke off the keyboard. ''{clears the screen}'' Simone, that'll be $7.50. And bring some paper towels. Eww. And some tweezers. I think I see a Fluffy Puff Nibblin' in there.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about fourteen seconds, the cursor reappears and Strong Bad continues:}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{weakly}'' No, there's no Easter eggs. I... I'm not up to it. Go away.

===Footnote===
# This line, and the ones like it, may be "Hey, hey! Doot doo!"

== Fun Facts ==

===Strong Bad's Bottom 10===
*The bottom 10 as typed on the Lappy:

<blockquote class="lappy email">
1. Thcleaning up your own puke off the keyboard 
2. Songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's 
    as legit lyrics 
3. Giving chocloate  desserts dangerous names 
4. There was this one time I had to hug a tree 
5. Um...not pigeons 
6. Foul stench of wet The Cheat 
7. Miniaturized versions of already bite-sized food 
8. Emails with more than 1 fwd: or re: in the subject line 
9. That horrible painting in Strong Mad's closet 
10. Dry t-shirt contests</blockquote>

===Explanations===
*An email forwarded because it was "on the news" or "worth a shot" is a reference to a myriad of urban legends, in particular the [http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/billgate.asp something-for-nothing forward hoax].
*"Miniaturized versions of already bite-sized food" include such items as Ritz [http://www.nabiscoworld.com/ritzbits/ Bits], M&M's [http://us.mms.com/us/minizone/ Minis], Hershey's [http://www.hersheys.com/products/details/bites.asp Bites], and M&M/Mars' [http://www.popables.com/ Pop'ables].
* Real life "songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's as legit lyrics" include "[http://www.songfacts.com/detail.lasso?id=713 Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye]" by [[Wikipedia:Steam (band)|Steam]], "[[Wikipedia:Hey_Jude|Hey Jude]]" by [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]], and [[Wikipedia:Cannibal & the Headhunters|Cannibal & the Headhunters]]' rendition of "[[Wikipedia:Land of a Thousand Dances|Land of a Thousand Dances]]". 
*Limozeen's song is likely a reference on the recent [[Wikipedia:Live 8|Live 8]] or older [[Wikipedia:Live Aid|Live Aid]] concerts/albums. The title "Feed the Childrens" is also similar to the "Feed the Children" songs played at these events.
*Chocolate desserts with dangerous names include desserts like [http://www.apricot.com/Food/DeathByChocolate.html Death by Chocolate], [http://www.aswaseattle.com/images/DA_ChocolateSuicide.jpg Chocolate Suicide], and [http://www.recipesource.com/desserts/chocolate/01/rec0144.html Chocolate Avalanche]. 

===Trivia===
*When viewing the Flash file, the sign on Strong Mad's closet reads "STRONG MAD RD."
*This is the first email without any clickable Easter eggs since Email #39, [[property of ones]].
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#wraith|wraith]]".

===Remarks===
*One of the two brownies pictured in Chocozuma's Revenge is [[Food Still In Peel or Package|still inside its wrapper]]. The [[pudding]] on top is also still in its container.
*Strong Bad possibly makes a grammatical error when he writes "la la's, na na's, and doot do's:" the use of apostrophes makes these words possessive, not plural, unless their coherence is threatened by the apostrophes' absence.
*Strong Bad tried to pass off nonsense words as legit lyrics in [[secret recipes]], [[local news]], [[action figure]], [[stupid stuff]], [[monument]], and [[colonization]] (Easter egg).
*Strong Bad can type with puke on his keyboard.
*Strong Bad refers to email with more than one "Fwd:" or "Re:" in the subject line. While this was once a common annoyance, many modern email clients and web email services are sophisticated enough to not prepend these to the subject line if already there.
*Strong Bad [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by telling the audience that there's no Easter eggs.
*this email is at both sbemail133.html and kotpopoon.html

===Goofs===
*When you click on the Lappy's screen, no ripples come up.
*When you see Strong Bad's list on his normal computer screen in the background, "chocolate" is incorrectly spelled as "chocloate".


===Glitches===
*At the end of the e-mail, the cursor disappears after Strong Bad has typed "I think I see a Fluffy Puff Nibblin in there." It reappears a few seconds before Strong Bad claims there are no Easter eggs.

===Inside References===
*The Marshie commercial pausing at the end is a reference to the [[Character_Videos|character videos]].
*The mouth in the marshmallow eating diagram is adapted from [[english paper]] with the battery changed to a marshmallow.
*Homestar's [[buttdance]] is from his [[Homestar_Runner#Character_Video_Transcript|character video]].
*Strong Bad also got the [[jibblies]] in [[your friends]] and [[date]], although not as severely.
*Strong Bad also asked for $7.50 in [[radio]].
*This is another occurence of [[puking]] on the site.
*The three chocolate desserts are examples of [[concoctions]].



===Real-World References===
*Chocolardiac Arrest is a reference to [[Wikipedia:cardiac arrest|cardiac arrest]], the cessation of normal circulation of the blood due to failure of the ventricles of the heart to contract effectively.
*Chocozuma's Revenge is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Montezuma's Revenge|Montezuma's Revenge]], used today to describe travelers' illness, usually gastrointestinal. It was first coined during the Spanish conquest of the [[Wikipedia:Aztec|Aztecs]] in 1519–1520 by [[Wikipedia:Hernan Cortez|Hernán Cortés]]. The debilitating diarrhea that the conquistadors' troops suffered in the jungles of today's [[Wikipedia:Mexico|Mexico]] was attributed to the force of the deposed Aztec ruler, [[Wikipedia:Moctezuma II|Moctezuma II]].
*The Bottom Ten list is presented in the same manner as the [[Wikipedia:Top Ten|Top Ten list]] on [[Wikipedia:The Late Show with David Letterman|The Late Show with David Letterman]].
**The [[Podstar Runner]] summary for the e-mail is a reference to the way Letterman introduces his Top Ten list. [[wikipedia:Scottsdale, Arizona|Scottsdale, Arizona]] (misspelled with just one "t" in the summary) has, at one point, been an actual "[[wikipedia:Cities that have been David Letterman's Home Office|home office]]" of the list.
*The scene showing The Cheat wet and shivering insinuates that he dove into the glass of water from the ladder. This is most likely a reference to several older cartoons (such as [[Wikipedia:Bugs Bunny|Bugs Bunny]]) where a character did the same thing.

===Fast Forward===
*The Horrible Painting would reappear in pumpkin form in [[More Fan Costumes]].
*Strong Bad would similarly ask a lady to shut up in [[your funeral]].
*The Cheat is wet again in [[DNA Evidence]]

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]]. [[Matt Chapman]] and [[Karen Wagner]])

'''MIKE:''' We are joined by our sister, Karen Wagner, ''{pronounced in the German manner, with a V}'' famed, uh, composer. Karen Wagner.

'''KAREN:''' Also known as The Sister Chap who takes care everything at the Homestar Store.

'''MIKE:''' That's true. Thanks, Karen. Yeah, thanks Karen.

'''KAREN:''' ''{overlapping}'' You're welcome. And I've been bugging you guys forever to let me do the commentary for Bottom 10.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' So, now's your chance. Make it count. Karen, go!

'''KAREN:''' Okay, I gotta tell you that I like this email. It's my favorite email—

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupting}'' That's awesome, Karen! All right, Matt, so—

'''KAREN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Because—

'''MIKE:''' —what do you think about this email?

'''KAREN:''' ''Because it's so rich'' and that, that becomes a joke later on.

'''MATT:''' ''{as Strong Bad}'' Shut up, lady.

''{laughter}''

'''MATT:''' You made, uh, there was an old-timey mustache guy that was the, uh, mascot for J. Stumblers originally, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, really?

'''MATT:''' I think so. He was kinda like stumbling.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Okay, right.

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' The old-timey guy was like wooooah...

'''MIKE:''' Where is he?

'''MATT:''' I dunno. You just drew a picture. You probably got it somewhere.

'''KAREN:''' ''{overlapping}'' I love that monster. Especially—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' That was based on a, um, painting that, uh, my friend Jason Fields had in college that his mom did that he had on the wall of this weird creepy goblin.

'''MATT:''' Well and the thing that it says is, uh, another, yet another thing we owe my friend Neil thousands of dollars for because it's idea number twenty-two that came from Neil. Uh, was— It's the voice of a rocoulm, which is a crook or a criminal and he's a creepy guy that hides in an alley and when you walk by, he says "Come on in here..."

'''KAREN:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' And then you go in there and he mugs you or something.

'''KAREN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah, that is one of the things to contribute to, attribute to Neil.

''{Marshie comes on}''

'''KAREN:''' Yep, here's another reason why it's ''so rich'' is because it has a little commercial here with um, Marshie and, uh—

'''MATT and MIKE:''' Nibbles.

'''KAREN:''' Nibbles.

'''MIKE:''' Nibbles I made years ago and it was sitting around not being used for anything for a couple years.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' I think it got— It reached new lows when M&Ms, when there's a mini-M&M. M&Ms are very small.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''KAREN:''' To begin with.

'''MATT:''' Or like Oreo minis. Or like, Ritz Bits, I feel like were one of the first things. It was just like, but it's a cracker! It's like one and a half inches around, like it's this tiny thing that— If you can't eat that in a bite, then something is wrong with you.

'''KAREN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Too much mouth strain.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. If you are suppose to eat, uh, you know, pieces of sushi that are five times the size of a Ritz Bit in one bite.

'''KAREN:''' Then you can certain eat a whole Ritz in one bite.

'''MATT:''' Exactly.

'''KAREN:''' Okay. All right.

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Was that you doing that pigeon voice?

'''KAREN:''' You guys gotta shut up because I've got to tell you a story about this. You know [[Little Girl]] and I have incorporated this little bit into our daily lives. You do, you add any verb at all. "Keep on doing it. Do it! Do it down!" ''{laughs}'' And Chris hates it.

''{all laugh}''

'''KAREN:''' Okay, here's another thing I gotta tell you guys about. Because this is ''{pause}'' what everybody has to say when there is a rich desert in front you. You have to say, "Oh, this is rich."

'''MATT:''' Usually, a cheesecake.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''KAREN:''' Right.

'''MIKE:''' This was really fun to make, though. We went over to our— to [[Ryan Sterritt|Ryan]]'s house, actually one night. We just went to the store and bought like 20 dollars worth of chocolate stuff—

'''MATT:''' Uh huh.

'''MIKE:''' —and started piling it on. And then, it was actually really good. We ate it all afterwards.

'''MATT:''' Afterwards, we all ate it.

'''MIKE:''' It was really good. And—

'''KAREN:''' And here's another rich part of this. It's got an appearance by Limozeen.

'''MATT:''' It's true. It's kind of a best, a best of.

'''KAREN:''' And, you know, you got the, um, necessary little a cappella part there.

'''MIKE:''' The breakdown.

'''MATT:''' It just gets the whole crowd, you know.

'''KAREN:''' Clapping at the same time.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' The lights are like flashing along.

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' The lights flash.

'''KAREN:''' Okay, here's another reason—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' I forgot what it is. Oh, yeah.

'''KAREN:''' And the fact that there is another appearance of the Buttdance, you know, she just loves it.

'''MATT:''' It's like—

'''MIKE:''' Let's twist again, like we did last summer. It's a sequel to the song.

'''KAREN:''' Like the rhythms down your pants.

'''MATT:''' There's a lot of, uh, gross, um, vomit related jokes on our website.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MATT:''' I feel like there are. We should probably curb that.

'''MIKE:''' There's— I don't think they're gross. You don't even see it.

'''MATT:''' That's true. We always—

'''KAREN:''' What other one are you talking about?

'''MATT:''' There's, uh, the [[The_AM_Morning_%22CRUDE%22_Crew|Stoops and Gusso logo]], one of them is just throwing up.

'''MATT:''' One them—

'''MATT:''' One them has an arrow through their head and one of them is puking. That's what the morning crew is all about.

'''KAREN:''' Oh, and now the one with, uh, Strong Bad says he's—

'''MIKE:''' It's over.

'''KAREN:''' Okay. ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' That's when— When, the paper comes down, you always gotta end it.

'''MATT:''' No wait. Wait!

'''MIKE:''' Oh, is this— Is it still going?

'''KAREN:''' Oh, right, no easter eggs. He's too, he's not up to it. He's not up to it.

'''MATT:''' Hurry up, say what you're gonna say!

'''KAREN:''' Oh, I forget.

'''MIKE:''' Good job.

===Fun Facts===

*"Come on twist again, like we did last summer" is a quote from "Let's Twist Again" by [[Wikipedia: Chubby Checker|Chubby Checker]]

== External Links ==
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caffeine

Sompm — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:36:13 GMT

Sompm: please read my comment in the transcript. then please edit and remove my comment. thank you

{{sbenav|91}}
[[Image:Parakeet.PNG|thumb|"Did you just say 'parakeet'?"]]

Strong Bad is asked to give Strong Sad some [[Hyperactive Strong Sad|caffeine]]. Strong Bad has been looking for a project for the upcoming [[All-Wide Science Fair]], so he decides to try the suggestion.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Classroom]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Wednesday, December 10, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:41

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And coming in at number 91, it's: E-Maaaaaaaaaaail!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
It must be really annoying living 
with someone as whiny as Strong Sad. 
Why don't you slip him some caffeine? 
 
Justin 
Murfreesboro, TN</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "TN" as "Tekken".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho-ho! Devilish laugh. ''{types "Ohhhhhhh. (devilish laugh)"}''

''{Strong Bad clears the screen and types again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dear Justin, In addition to the cut of your jib, I likes the sound of your town. Murfreesboro. But we got the All-Wide Science Fair just around the corner and I've been straining for a project. So far alls I've come up with is the effects of gasoline. ''{pauses a bit}'' On fire. ''{stops typing}''

''{Cut to a blue-print-style background, followed by a jar of coffee powder and a spoon. The spoon takes some coffee powder and "heaping spoonful" appears with an arrow pointing at the spoon.}'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voicing over}'' So, I figure—

''{The title "How to make science work for me" appears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —I just drop a couple of heaping spoonfuls—

''{Said spoon and jar of coffee powder appears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —of Sanka

''{"heaping spoonful" appears with an arrow pointing at the powder}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —into Strong Sad's orange juice,

''{Said juice appears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' and collect the ensuing data.

''{The spoon drops in the powder. It spoons some more powder, pauses while "yet another heaping spoonful" and another arrow appear, then stirs it in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll definitely get first place. And who knows? I might even win me a Noble Peacie Prize...

''{"slight discoloration" and another arrow appears next to the juice, and "slightly disgusting" appears with yet another arrow pointing at the jar of coffee.}''

''{Cut to view of Strong Bad and Strong Sad in the basement. Strong Bad is holding a legal pad, in which he makes periodic notes. One of Strong Sad's eyes is open unnaturally wide, and he holds his hands high above his head. His fingers twitch frequently, and some erratic and discordant music plays in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So Strong Sad, tell me, how do you feel?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{speaking very quickly and clapping his hands together over his head}'' I feel great! I feel great! I feel great! I feel bad. I don't even watch football! I don't even watch football! I can't remember my legs.

''{Cut to Strong Sad following an annoyed The Cheat on hands and knees. Strong Bad is in the background, watching and taking notes.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey The Cheat! Listen up! Widdlywiddlywill! What did I say? What did I just say? Did I say anything? What about this one: hoo hee haw whadiawah! Did that mean anything? ''{Strong Bad voice-over begins}'' Did I offend you? I hope I didn't offend you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' After being exposed to my control Cheat, subject started acting ''way'' creepier than normal...like, even for Strong Sad.

''{Cut to Marzipan's house, where she is trying to paint with Strong Sad next to her. We see Strong Bad in the foreground making more observations and taking more notes.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mar-zi-pan, Mar-zi-pan! What do you wanna make? You wanna make some wood-davers with me? I got pine cones! I got peanut butter! I got everything we need! I said pine cones! Pine cones! Gonna be successful! Gonna be phenomenally successful! Sell 'em at the corner store! Sell 'em at the five and dime! Marzipan, you gotta get on the train, get on the wood-davers train! Here goes the wood-davers train! It's takin' off! It's a new century! ''{Marzipan walks away and Strong Bad voice-over begins}'' I can't remember cereal, I can't remember TV. Is it football season yet? I'll run you over in football, run you down the field like a clown!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' The subject's condition continued to deteriorate, and he began making up arts and crafts activities. Like wood-davers.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement. Strong Mad is sitting on the couch, and Strong Sad is hanging upside-down from the ceiling.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' GET DOWN.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No!

'''STRONG MAD:''' GET DOWN!

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, no... Parakeet.

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{in disbelief, and very clearly}'' Did you just say "parakeet"?

''{Cut to a field with Strong Sad and Coach Z. Strong Sad alternates bouncing on his left and right legs. Strong Bad is in the background making notes and observations again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' In the final stages, subject became: ''{The following words come up on the screen in Tandy text as Strong Bad says them}'' Erratic, violent, and Really Funny to Watch.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{slapping Coach Z in the face}'' Hey Coach Z! Hey Coach Z! Whaddaya got? Whaddaya got for me? How about that? Wanna play some soccer? ''{while Coach Z is speaking}'' Some hockeyjock? I got whatever it takes! Hey, ya want some salad? Pasta salad? Tuna salad? Fruit salad?

'''COACH Z:''' Woo! Woo! Cut that out! Don't hurt me! I don't wanna die! I'm just an old man— ''{Strong Sad steals Coach Z's hat after it falls to the ground}'' Ooh! Ooh!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...Salad! Fruit salad! Fruit salad! Fruit salad! ''{Slowing down}'' Salad... ''{powering-down sound}'' ...Salad as a rock? Um... Coach Z, what are we doin' here?

'''COACH Z:''' You was tryin' to jank me!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Feelin' woozy...

''{Strong Sad falls on his back. Coach Z's hat lands on his stomach. Cut to the All-Wide Science Fair auditorium stage, where a picture of Strong Sad on his back is shown on Strong Bad's easel under the caption "Results:".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' At this point, the test subject...was dead. ''{Gasp from the audience}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' I was not dead!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...Shut up. And all of this data could only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's adopted. ''{another gasp from the audience}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' That's not true either!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down as a close up of Strong Bad's project is shown.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end of the e-mail, click on the various pictures on the right side of Strong Bad's science project board to see some of his car sketches.
:*Top notecard: "Jalopy"
:*Middle [[Sticky Note]]: "[[Weekly Fanstuff 2005#WF-2005-04-21|Shark-mobile, can it work?]]"
:*Bottom Looseleaf: "The Fast"
*Also at the end, you can hold down the left mouse button over the paper in the folder on the left side to see Strong Bad's original project, The Effects of Gasoline on Fire. The left side reads:
<blockquote>about the 
author: 
strong bad 
has at least 
fifteen 
bucks in his 
wallet right 
now. bet 
that's more 
than you, 
poor person.</blockquote>

The right side, which is on fire, reads:

<blockquote>somebody 
should 
probably 
be keeping 
an eye on 
this. </blockquote>

*Finally at the end, move your mouse to the right side of the screen to find an arrow which you can click on to see Homestar Runner's project. It is blank except for the words "AWW MAN. IT MELTED." and a puddle on the table.
:*Click on the puddle and you'll see Homestar explain his project.
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' For my project, I opted to use more social studies...a-than science.
::'''CROWD:''' Ah, I see! Impressive! ''{miscellaneous chatter}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===

*"Cut of your jib" is an old sailors' phrase, used to describe the expression on one's face, or the appearance of a ship from afar (the shape of the foresail, or "cut of the jib", described a ship's character). [http://www.bibliomania.com/2/3/255/1168/19836/1/frameset.html]
*Strong Bad's "Noble Peacie Prize" refers to the [[Wikipedia:Nobel Foundation|Nobel Foundation's]] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].
**Incidentally, he would more qualify for the [[Wikipedia: Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine|Nobel Physiology or Medicine Prize]]
*A [[wikipedia:Five and dime|five and dime]] was a type of store popular in the mid-1900s originally selling items such as candy and small toys.

===Trivia===

*With the exception of the Halloween toons, this is the first time [[Coach Z]] is seen without his hat on.
*Two versions of this were put up on the site. The first, which can be viewed on a mirror [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail91.html here] has Coach Z saying "I'm just a crazy old man!" while being slapped. However, [[HR:sbemail91.html|the version currently on the site]] has him saying "I'm just an old man!" The reason for this change is unknown.
*This is the first instance of [[Hyperactive Strong Sad]].
*The "All-Wide Science Fair" sign is printed on fan-fold paper, possibly from the same printer as [[The Paper]].
*In the end when we see Strong Bad's Science Project, the sheet of paper in a pocket under the blue words "What's a [[Wood-daver]]" reads:
<blockquote>Strong Bad's
Science Fair Project
(not "The Effects of
Gasoline on Fire" again)</blockquote>
*The summary on the Podstar Runner RSS feed for this video says "Strong Sad gets caffeinated."

===Remarks===

[[Image:2mss.PNG|thumb|Two-mouthed Strong Sad]]
*Strong Bad says "coming in at number 91" at the beginning of the email. (This is e-mail #91.) In the email [[flashback]], he says he lost count of his emails somewhere around #51, but it could have been a coincidence.
*The sound of Strong Sad coming down from his caffeine 'high' is the same sound used in [[gimmicks]] when Strong Bad's Tandy 400 shut down and was about to explode.
*Strong Sad's bulging eye is an upside-down copy of [[Bubs|Bubs]]'s smaller eye.
*Strong Bad says "my control Cheat", a rare use of The Cheat's name without an [[integral article]].
*Strong Sad is moving so erratically, he has two mouths to add to the illusion after Marzipan walks away.
*When looking at Homestar's project, you can find an invisible "back" button by pressing Tab.
*Strong Bad pronounces the emailer's town as "mur-FREES-bo-ro", while the Tennessee city is actually pronounced "MUR-frees-bo-ro".

===Inside References===
*"Hockeyjock" is likely a reference to [[personal favorites]].
*Despite Strong Sad's protests, Strong Bad claims that [[Death#Strong Sad|Strong Sad is dead]] (and adopted).

===Real-World References===
*When reading "TN" Strong Bad says "''Tekken''" instead of "Tennessee". ''[[Wikipedia:Tekken|Tekken]]'' is a popular fighting game by [[Wikipedia:Namco|Namco]].
*The "shark-mobile" may be a reference to an old [[Wikipedia:Hot Wheels|Hot Wheels]] car called "The Sharkruiser [http://www.southtexasdiecast.com/hwguide/images/000/32.jpg]."
*Ironically, [[Wikipedia:Sanka|Sanka]] was the world's first brand of ''decaffeinated'' coffee. [http://www.telusplanet.net/public/coffee/history.htm Invented] in 1903, Sanka was first marketed in the United States in 1923.
*"Salad as a rock" is a reference to the song "[http://www.lyricsdownload.com/ashford-and-simpson-solid-lyrics.html Solid (As a Rock)]" by Ashford and Simpson, released as a single in 1984.

== DVD Version ==
*All of the Easter eggs are intact, but have been condensed down into two Easter eggs.
**The first DVD Easter egg (found via the hidden Strong Bad Icon to the left of the Project Title) features a peek at what Strong Bad's original project was, closeups of all three of the "cool cars," '''and''' a closeup of the paper in the folder. Plus, the fire from the original project burns a corner off The Paper.
**The second DVD Easter egg (found via the hidden Strong Bad Icon to the right of the Project Title) combines Homestar's Project and his comments on it.

== External Links ==
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Crack Stuntman

Sompm — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:01:09 GMT

Sompm: capitalized the T

[[Image:CrackStuntman.PNG|thumb|"BLAAAAH'm Crack Stuntman."]]
[[Image:Sketchbook-4-5-07.PNG|thumb|left|Sketch'd!]]
'''Crack Stuntman''' is the voice actor for [[Gunhaver]] on the [[Cheat Commandos]]. He apparently doesn't take his job too seriously, since he never seems to have a firm idea of how his character's name is correctly pronounced (he's pronounced it "Gun-hay-ver" and "The Gun Shaver"), and has incorrectly referred to the cartoon as "the Cheat Command-show". Crack has been seen in a rap music video/public service announcement trying to convince kids not to play with too many knives and to inform them about Spring Break. He is also the national spokesperson of [[Pistols For Pandas]].

According to the email [[original]], for a time he manned [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] under the name "Crack Stuntbubs" after the departure of [[Original Bubs]]. [[Marzipan]], however, later suggested that the whole email was a product of [[Strong Bad]]'s imagination.

He is a Caucasian man in his late twenties or thirties, with blond hair and a five o'clock shadow. His shades are very similar to Gunhaver's. He's pretty tall.

This is the first time a human has ever been realistically drawn in the homestar runner body of work.
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== Complete Filmography ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] (voice only)
*[[An Important Rap Song]]
*Email [[original]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"I've had it up to HERE with your shinoligans! If you could see me you'd see that I'm holding my hand up to my chin. And I'm pretty tall!"|[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] outtake|Mirror:crack_up2here.mp3}}
|}
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Crack Stuntman

Sompm — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:00:42 GMT

Sompm: realistic drawing

[[Image:CrackStuntman.PNG|thumb|"BLAAAAH'm Crack Stuntman."]]
[[Image:Sketchbook-4-5-07.PNG|thumb|left|Sketch'd!]]
'''Crack Stuntman''' is the voice actor for [[Gunhaver]] on the [[Cheat Commandos]]. He apparently doesn't take his job too seriously, since he never seems to have a firm idea of how his character's name is correctly pronounced (he's pronounced it "Gun-hay-ver" and "The Gun Shaver"), and has incorrectly referred to the cartoon as "the Cheat Command-show". Crack has been seen in a rap music video/public service announcement trying to convince kids not to play with too many knives and to inform them about Spring Break. He is also the national spokesperson of [[Pistols For Pandas]].

According to the email [[original]], for a time he manned [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] under the name "Crack Stuntbubs" after the departure of [[Original Bubs]]. [[Marzipan]], however, later suggested that the whole email was a product of [[Strong Bad]]'s imagination.

He is a Caucasian man in his late twenties or thirties, with blond hair and a five o'clock shadow. His shades are very similar to Gunhaver's. He's pretty tall.

this is the first time a human has ever been realistically drawn in the homestar runner body of work.
{{clear}}
== Complete Filmography ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] (voice only)
*[[An Important Rap Song]]
*Email [[original]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"I've had it up to HERE with your shinoligans! If you could see me you'd see that I'm holding my hand up to my chin. And I'm pretty tall!"|[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] outtake|Mirror:crack_up2here.mp3}}
|}
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Let us give TANKS!

Sompm — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:56:00 GMT

Sompm: emo punk music (sorta tired right now so if it's nonsensical, please fix it. just basically I was saying that the music reynold's brother is playing is a combo of emo and punk.

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ccdo5|Fan Costumes '06|Decemberween Short Shorts}}
[[Image:Let Us Give Tanks.PNG|thumb|"I can never tell you two apart!"]]
Blue Laser invites the Cheat Commandos to Thanksgiving dinner.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Green Helmets]], {{film|Gunhaver}}, {{film|Silent Rip}}, {{film|Reinforcements}}, {{film|Crackotage}}, {{film|Reynold}}, {{film|Firebert}}, {{film|Fightgar}}, {{film|Blue Laser Minion}}, {{film|Blue Laser Commander}}, [[Ripberger]], [[Oliver Smidgen]], [[Reynold's Brother]]

'''Places:''' [[Cheat Commandos HQ]], [[Blue Laser Cottage]], [[Reynold's Parents' House]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, November 21, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 5:00

'''Page Title:''' A Very Tremendous Chimendez Thanksgiving

==Transcript==
''{The title appears — ''"LET US GIVE TANKS!!" written by A. Chimendez'' — over a shot of the Cheat Commando base in red, orange, yellow, and brown hills in the background and falling leaves. Light, percussive music plays.}''

''{Gunhaver and Silent Rip are in front of the control panel and video screen, watching shaky video of three Cheat Commandos being assaulted by blue lasers and explosions on a smoky, war-torn landscape.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' We're taking heavy losses, sir. They've got us pinned down! We really need—

''{The video image is interrupted by the Blue Las-alert siren and a yellow and orange screen with the text, "Thanksgiving Break Alert".}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right! Thanksgiving break!

''{The screen fades through static back to the Cheat Commandos.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' But sir! We could really use some—

''{Gunhaver turns off the monitor and turns to Silent Rip.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' I ''love'' Thanksgiving break!

''{Focus on Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, shouldn't we go help him?

''{Cut out to include Gunhaver, along with Reinforcements and Crackotage.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Naw, he's just one of those green helmets. We got like fifty of them. So, what's everybody doing for the holiday?

''{Shift to Reynold.}''

'''REYNOLD:''' I'm going to stay at my parents' house! If they haven't rented out my room... again... to my brother.

''{Gunhaver salutes the Cheat Commandos as they leave.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Well, have a good time, soldiers. I'll just be here in case Blue Laser tries to blow up over-the-river-and-through-the-woods... so that no one to grandmother's house... can go.

''{Shift to a small cottage in the autumn woods with a gravel path and smoke rising out of the stone chimney. Transition music plays.}''

''{Cut to the inside of the cottage. A Blue Laser minion is preparing a turkey in the kitchen. Blue Laser Commander enters, brandishing a meat fork.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I thought I told you to fiendishly dice the evil onions!

'''BLUE LASER MINION 1:''' No sir.

''{Pan to a second Blue Laser Minion chopping onions with fiendish faces drawn on them on the counter.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' That was me, sir.

''{Pan back to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I can never tell you two apart! Yah! ''{Hurls the meat fork into the offscreen minion's eye.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' Ow!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' There! Now you're the one with the fork stuck in your eye!

''{The door crashes open and Fightgar, Firebert, and Silent Rip enter, armed with guns.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Sorry Blue Laser — the only thanks ''you'll'' be giving is getting shot by us with our bullet-shooting guns!

''{Blue Laser Commander approaches the Cheat Commandos.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' What?!

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Aw, just kiddin'. ''{Smiles, along with Firebert.}'' Thanks for havin' us over!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{laughs and smiles}'' You really had me going for a second there. Get in here, you guys!

''{Fightgar, Firebert, and Silent Rip enter, followed by Ripberger.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Ripberger, you made it! ''{Ripberger stops at the door}'' I thought you were only available for a limited time with three proofs of purchase!

'''RIPBERGER:''' I brought some ambrosia salad! ''{displays the salad}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Uh! Where's Gunhaver?!

''{Cut to Fightgar and Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' ''{scratching his head}'' Uh, we kinda didn't give him your invitation. Gunhaver has a bit of a hard time cutting loose.

''{Cut to Gunhaver in the Cheat Commandos base, saluting a flag labeled "The Flag" which is being blown by a fan.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Forty-seven! Forty-eight! Forty-nine! Fifty! C'mon Gunhaver, you maggot! Give me fifty more! One! Two! Three!

''{Cut back to the cottage, with Blue Laser Commander and Fightgar at a table with plates, the turkey, and yams with marshmallows.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Uh... I guess... Claude Monet, and um... Manchester United!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' That's good, that's good! Now what about you, Silent Rip?

''{Pan over to Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' I'm thankful for this bountiful Blue Laser Thanksgiving action playset!

''{A "ding" noise is heard and the words "CHEAP AS FREE" appear in a cloud bubble in the corner.}''

''{Cut to Crackotage.}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I'm thankful for the gift of rhyme!!

''{Cut to Ripberger.}''

'''RIPBERGER:''' Ambrosia salad!

''{Cut back to Crackotage.}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I'm also thankful for this lime! ''{holds up a lime}'' Hibbety-jeebity!

''{Cuts to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Plutonium at closeout prices!

''{Cut to a Blue Laser minion.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' I'm thankful I don't have a fork in my eye, sir.

''{Cut back to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' My Nana's new hip!

''{Cut to the Blue Laser minion with a fork stuck through his visor into his eye.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION WITH FORK IN EYE:''' I'm... thankful for this fork in my eye.

''{Cuts to Gunhaver, facing the camera in front of the control panel.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' So I exchanged it for something of lesser value, and they gave me the rest in store credit!

''{Cut to reveal him standing in front of the video monitor with the Cheat Commando green helmet onscreen.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' That's great, sir. A real value. But we could really use some air support!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Yeah, I should go too. Gotta check in on Blue Laser.

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' Please, NO—

''{Gunhaver brings up the Blue Laser cottage on the video monitor, showing Blue Laser Commander, Fightgar, Silent Rip, and a Blue Laser minion at the table with the turkey.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Ambros-er-a salad... sayin' right, right, right, right...

'''GUNHAVER:''' Tight buns! Blue Laser has captured the Cheat Commandos and is forcing them to sit down to a delicious meal and pleasant conversation! Hang on, boys. Daddy Gunhavvy's on his way! ''{walks away from the monitor}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' But I'm ''not'' thankful for that guy over there with the camera!

''{Cut to Reinforcements, who is using a camera and lights to record the Thanksgiving dinner.}''

'''REINFORCEMENTS:''' Hey, guys.

''{Focus on Silent Rip and Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh-oh. You know what ''that'' means.

''{Cuts to Fightgar.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' It won't be long before...

''{Gunhaver pops out of the turkey holding a handgun. The Cheat Commandos theme music plays in the background.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Gobble, gobble... you're in trobble!

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey, that's not bad!

''{Cut to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Gunhaver! You actually have a gun!

''{Cut back to Gunhaver, with the silhouettes of two Cheat Commandos in the foreground.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Cheat Commandos, run! For cover! ''{camera zooms in}'' Blue Laser is clearly trying to have you all over for dinner!

''{Cut to Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, yeah! He invited you too. But we didn't tell you because we were afraid you'd do something like this!

''{Cut back to Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' And I did! The Cheat Commandos win again!

''{Cut to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Well, since you're here... ''{clasps his hands together}'' Play us a song, won't you, Charles?

''{Pan past several Cheat Commandos, all murmuring in agreement}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' A—a song? No, I couldn't possibly... it's been so long, I...

''{Cut back to Gunhaver, with a small, dirty Cheat Commando wearing a cap behind him.}''

'''OLIVER SMIDGEN:''' Won't you play us a song, Gun'aver?

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right, you talked me into it. One song!

''{Cut to Gunhaver sitting at a black upright piano with the Cheat Commandos and Blue Laser gathered around.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' This is one everybody knows, so give me a hand, boys. ''{begins playing the piano and singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

'''CHEAT COMMANDOS AND BLUE LASER:''' Ooh!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

''{Ripberger descends upside-down from the ceiling.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDOS AND BLUE LASER:''' Ah!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Toys!

''{Pan past Fightgar, Silent Rip, and the Blue Laser minion with the fork in his eye. Focus on the piano keys, on which Gunhaver is playing diddy tune of the Cheat Commandos theme song, and then cut back to everyone in front of the piano.}''

'''ALL:''' Yeah!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' A holiday classic!

''{Smoke begins wafting through the the room.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, what's that smell?

'''FIGHTGAR:''' How should I know? You're the one called Silent Rip!

'''GUNHAVER:''' That's all me. I stuck a nuclear device in the oven in case I didn't make it out of here alive! ''{several of the attendees open their mouths in surprise}''

''{Cut to Reynold's room, with his brother playing video games. There are several speakers in the room; the one in the foreground is pulsating as it plays music. The Blue Laser cottage can be seen outside the window with smoke rising from it.}''

'''MUSIC:''' ''No one understands me! No one understands me!''

''{Reynold enters the room, covering his ears.}''

'''REYNOLD:''' Will you turn that noise down?!

'''REYNOLD'S BROTHER:''' You're so lame.

'''MUSIC:''' ''No one understands me... but YOU!''

''{The Blue Laser cottage explodes in a mushroom cloud at the end of the song and the glass window of Reynold's room shatters.}''

''{Cut to a picture of Gunhaver coming out of the turkey, with the message, "Happy Thanksgiving! from those Cheat Commandos". The "Buy all our playsets and toys" music plays, without lyrics.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on "Cheat Commandos" to see Oliver Smidgen and Reynold's brother's action figures.
*At the end, click on the turkey drumstick to see Blue Laser order around a minion. 
*:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{Holding a plate of food}'' I need you to take this plate of food, make a milkshake out of it, and spread it on Nana's gums for her! 
*:'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' I'm going to go ahead and disobey a direct order, sir. 
*:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Understandable!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*The "Green Helmets" are minor, expendable characters added so "heroes" can die without losing any members of the main cast. Such characters are frequently called "[[Wikipedia:Redshirt (stock character)|Redshirts]]", due to the fact that such characters in [[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]] usually wore red shirts; in G.I. Joe, they were called "[[Wikipedia:Greenshirts (G.I. Joe)|Greenshirts]]".
*[[Wikipedia:Ambrosia (fruit salad)|Ambrosia salad]] is a fruit salad variation that contains sour cream, whipped cream, mandarin oranges, pineapple, and coconut. Some variations also contain bananas, strawberries, or miniature marshmallows.
*Oliver's pronunciation of Gunhaver as "Gun'aver" is a play on "Guv'nor," a term of British origin used to refer to a person of higher social status.

===Trivia===
*Crackotage's "Hey, that's not bad!" line is the first time he is heard not attempting to conclude what he says with a rhyme.
*This toon contains a fairly rare appearance of an actual [[Guns|handgun]].

===Remarks===
*The leaves at the beginning fall ''in front of'' the [[Wikipedia:character generator|character-generated]] title.
*Gunhaver is shown playing C E F B♭ F E. The notes heard are G G A B♭ A G.
*In action figure form, Reynold's brother still has cartoon-style eyes, although it may be because of his disgruntled facial expression.
*When Fightgar enters Blue Laser Cottage, he threatens Blue Laser Commander with "bullet-shooting guns." The Cheat Commando weapons normally fire lasers.
*Reynold's brother's box says he is a child of the '90s, meaning he is somewhere between age 6 and age 16 at the time of the toon's release.
*If you look closely at Gunhaver's gun when he bursts out of the turkey, the lines are not properly drawn as one of them is at a slightly awkward angle.
*During the song, [[Ripberger]]'s mouth doesn't move. However, his body moves as though he is singing.
*the "no one understands me" song is punk emo rock, with one of the common themes of emo-ness being "nobody understands me", and the music and song tone coming from punk rock.

===Goofs===
*The fork in the injured Blue Laser Minion's eye switches eyes depending on which direction he is facing. This is due to the fact that each character simply flips horizontally when facing a different direction, rather than being redrawn.

===Fixed Goofs===
[[Image:Cheat Commandos Lime No Decend.PNG|thumb|The floating lime]]
*Crackotage's arm originally went down after showing the lime, but the lime didn't descend with his arm. This was fixed by removing the downwards arm movement. 

===Inside References===
*The Lil' Steiny piano is a reference to [[Strong Badman Characters#Stiny|Stiny]]'s nickname, Li'l Stiny, from [[superhero name]]. ''(See also: Real-World References)''
*The page title refers to [[A. Chimendez]].
*This is another instance of [[blood]] in a cartoon.
*This is another instance of [[Cheap as Free]] in a cartoon.
*The price of each Easter egg [[Action Figure Character Variations|action figure]] is [[$11.01]].
*The appearance of Ripberger and Reinforcements originated from ideas mentioned in the commentaries for the Cheat Commandos on [[Everything Else, Volume 2]].
*The [[explosions]] on the battlefield with the Green Helmets are the same ones used in [[Sundae Drivin']], as seen in [[redesign]].

===Real-World References===
*The Lil' Steiny piano is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]] pianos. ''(See also: Inside References)''
*[[Wikipedia:Over the River and Through the Woods|Over the River and Through the Woods]] is a popular holiday song written by Lydia Maria Child.
*Oliver Smidgen is an allusion to the title character of ''[[Wikipedia:Oliver Twist|Oliver Twist]]''.
*[[Wikipedia:Claude Monet|Claude Monet]] (1840-1926) was a French Impressionist painter.
*[[Wikipedia:Manchester United F.C.|Manchester United]] Football Club is the English football team most well-known to Americans through [[Wikipedia:David Beckham|David Beckham]]. The reference is also made funnier by the joke associated with the club, that it attracts fans from all corners of the globe except Manchester itself (a recent study showed people with Manchester-area post codes are more likely to support [[Wikipedia:Manchester City F.C.|Manchester City]]).
*The poster in Reynold's brother's room displays the [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]] symbol.
*The gun that Gunhaver is holding resembles a Colt .45 [[Wikipedia:M1911|M1911]].
*The end of Gunhaver's song on the piano bears a strong resemblance to the ending of ''[[Wikipedia:Rhapsody in Blue|Rhapsody in Blue]]'' by [[Wikipedia:George Gershwin|George Gershwin]].
*In the toy Easter egg, The "Next Gen Gamepad" on the box for Reynold's brother most closely resembles that of the [[Wikipedia:Super Nintendo Entertainment System|Super NES]], which was considered a next-generation console in the early 1990s. Incidentally, two [[Wikipedia:History of video game consoles (seventh generation)|new game consoles]], the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation 3|PlayStation 3]] and the [[Nintendo]] [[Wikipedia:Wii|Wii]], were released just a few days before this toon.
*Oxi Clean is a brand of general-purpose cleaning products.

===Fast Forward===
*Reynold's brother makes an appearance again later in [[An Important Rap Song]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:ccdo5.html|watch "Let Us Give TANKS!"]]
*[[HR:ccdo5.swf|view the Flash file for "Let Us Give TANKS!"]]
*[[Mirror:ccdo5.html|watch toon with "floating lime" goof]] (mirror)
*[[Forum:10241|forum thread re: Let Us Give TANKS!]]

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Death

Sompm — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:54:35 GMT

Sompm: sickly sam's death

[[Image:Sbemail 168.png|thumb|"Oh, he looks so peaceful."]]
In the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work, there are numerous references to the subject of '''death'''. These range from a [[character]]'s death or near-death, to imagining or behaving as though a character has died. As in many cartoons, when a character dies, the death is usually impermanent — the character may reappear alive, often with no explanation.

==Appearances==
===[[Bad Graphics Ghost]]===
*In an [[Easter egg]] in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[ghosts]], it is possible to "kill" the Bad Graphics Ghost by erasing the pixels.

===[[Bubs]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Bubs mentions having "almost died the 15th time."
*In [[Sample of Style]], [[Mike Chapman]] rips the cardboard tube that "produces" Bubs's voice. [[Matt Chapman]] says that they will have to kill off Bubs, "just like [[Homeschool Winner]]". A picture of Bubs's grave then appears.
*In the Strong Bad Email [[unnatural]], Strong Bad frequently suggests that they kill the rampaging [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]].

===[[Cheat Commandos]]===
*In the original [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|commercial]], [[Firebert]] is shown killing two [[Blue Laser Minions]] by blowing up a cliff above them, sending rocks crashing down on top of them. ([[Coach Z]] similarly "kills" five Blue Laser Minion action figures by using [[Reinforcements]]' [[Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket]] to send a [[pie]] plate crashing down on them.)
*In [[Shopping for Danger]], [[Crackotage]] remarks that [[Reynold]] would "prob'ly die" if he went on a mission with the rest of them, later heading back to base "to make sure Reynold isn't dead".
*In [[Commandos in the Classroom]], two Blue Laser Minions are just about to shoot [[Fightgar]] when we cut away from them.
*In [[Let us give TANKS!]], all of the main Commandos (except [[Reynold]]) are ostensibly killed in a nuclear explosion at the [[Blue Laser Cottage]], along with the [[Blue Laser Commander]] and at least two [[Blue Laser Minions]].
**In the same toon, the commander of the [[Green Helmets]] asks [[Gunhaver]] for air support in a battle because of the "heavy losses" they're suffering.
***Also in the same toon, [[Fightgar]] threatens to shoot the Blue Lasers with "bullet-shooting guns" (but it turns out he was just kidding).
* In [[Blue Laserdisc Challenge]], there are several different ways for the [[Blue Laser Commander]] to die if you choose incorrectly, such as being eaten by a monster or cut in half by a bladed pendulum.

===[[Frank Bennedetto]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[army]], Frank Bennedetto "dies", after being kicked by Strong Bad. He is later seen alive in [[Labor Dabor]].
**In the email [[more armies]], a memorial statue for Frank Bennedetto is seen. This may mean either that his death was real, or that his service in the Homestarmy was worthy of commemoration.

===[[The Goblin]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], the Goblin is crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot.

===[[Homestar Runner]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[the show]], Homestar says, "But it turned out I didn't die."
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], Strong Bad as "[[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|Detective Everybody]]" said Homestar was shot 37 times for being too stupid.
*Homestar is in [[Heaven]] on [[Main Page 6]] and is seen in a zombie-like form on [[Main Page 7]].
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]], Homestar calls to say he is sinking in quicksand, and says that if Marzipan helps, he would be "really, really still alive."
*In [[the movies]], Strong Bad instructs Homestar to die before firing his bazooka at him.

===[[Homsar]]===
*In the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[homsar]], [[Strong Bad]] "kills" him with the [[Heavy Lourde]] at the request of Vinnie C. Although [[The Brothers Chaps]] intended at first for him to be killed, he was later revealed to be alive but seriously injured in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]]. The Heavy Lourde is dropped on him again on the [[Homsar Main Page]].
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], he and [[Marzipan]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies.
*In [[cliffhangers]], Strong Bad drops [[Homsar]] and [[The King of Town]] off a [[cliff]].

===[[Kerrek]]===
*In [[interview]], an Easter egg shows him after being "smote" by [[Trogdor]].
*In the game [[TROGDOR!]], when you reach the level 50 interlude, Kerrek is burninated by Trogdor.
*In [[Peasant's Quest]], he is slain by Rather Dashing with his bow and arrow.

===[[The King of Town]]===
*In [[Halloween Fairstival]], after seeing an X-ray of the King's heart, Strong Bad is content to "let the King die in peace."
*In [[cliffhangers]], the King is dropped from a cliff, along with [[Homsar]].
*In [[original]], Strong Bad suggests that the King has died twelve times, each time replaced with a new actor, at least one of which may have been an onion. It should be noted that Marzipan later confirms that Strong Bad "just made all that stuff up", even though an Easter egg shows a graveyard populated solely by Kings of Town I-XII.

===[[Marzipan]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], Marzipan and [[Homsar]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies. Strong Bad later comments on Marzipan's "considerable resistance to death".
*In [[Date Nite]], Strong Bad suggests drowning Marzipan and The Cheat.

===[[Multi-Function Dragon]]===
*In [[KOT's VOQPCS!]], the Dragon is killed when speared by [[The Knight]] in the "instant death" section of his chest.

===[[Old-Timey]]===
*In [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] falls off a cliff. He is later revealed to be in [[Hell]] in an Easter egg.
*In [[That A Ghost]], all of the [[Characters#Old-Timey|main characters]] are reduced to skeletons, and [[Old-Timey Bubs]] pokes his head out of a grave asking [[Strong Man]] to "please keep it down."
*[[Rumble Red]] is killed by [[Old-Timey Marzipan|Old-Timey Marzipan's]] [[Old-Timey Marzipan's Contraption|machine]], which she gave to him as a [[Decemberween]] present.
*During the Old-Timey portion of [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], there is a snowman in the background that has been beheaded.
*[[Sickly Sam]] buries himself alive on Tuesdays, and has numerous traits of an undead being, including a partially exposed skeleton. he was shown falling from a suspended piece of steel presumably at a construction site, but he is not seen actually hitting the ground (wich would presumably bring about his iminant doom)
*In [[Malloween Commercial]], [[Mr. Shmallow]]'s grave is seen in one scene.

===[[Pom Pom]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Kevin wonders what would happen to Pom Pom if he was poked with a pin. Strong Bad decides to try this, except that he would also be blindfolded and Pom Pom would be set on fire with the [[BMW Lighter]]. He believes that Pom Pom exploded in "a big fiery ball that was visible from space", when in reality he got a "severe pummeling" by Pom Pom. He even wrote [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom|Pom Pom's parents]] a letter of condolence.
*In [[Where's The Cheat?]], Strong Bad calls [[Marzipan]] and pretends to be [[Homestar Runner]], and he tells her that he got mad and killed Pom Pom.
*Pom Pom's ghost flies out of his grave on [[Main Page 7]].

===[[Pom Pom's Girls]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are zapped by the Visor Robot.

===[[Rather Dashing]]===
*Rather Dashing can die in a variety of ways throughout ''[[Peasant's Quest]]''. The most noteworthy of these is when he gets burninated by [[Trogdor]] at the end of the game.

===[[The Sad Kids]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot, and none of them live.

===[[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]]===
*According to the email [[origins]], they were by far the most popular characters until they were crushed by a falling [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. However, they manage to reappear in [[Strongest Man in the World]].

===[[Strong Bad]]===
*Strong Bad is in heaven on [[Main Page 6]] and he rises from his grave on [[Main Page 7]].
*Strong Bad's grave is seen at the end of [[replacement]].
*In the email [[time capsule]], an emailer asks Strong Bad how he can be "soooo awesome" if he's dead, and requests that he make a [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]].
*The Strong Bad Email [[your funeral]] consists entirely of Strong Bad imagining what his funeral would be like.
*An egg in the likeness of Strong Bad's head smashes in [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]].

===[[Strong Sad]]===
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary]] — Strong Sad reveals that he ''himself'' dreams of his own death (over and over and over...).
*[[A Folky Tale]] — Strong Sad "faints", making [[Coach Z]] believe he killed him.
*Email [[caffeine]] — Strong Bad concludes that his "test subject" is dead (which Strong Sad immediately denies).
*Email [[impression]] — In complimenting The Cheat's costume, Coach Z says "It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today!"
*Email [[fingers]] — As Strong Bad imagines what it would be like if he used fake fingers, the viewer can see a dead Strong Sad behind the couch in one scene. Also during this sequence, two Easter eggs show Strong Sad stuffed inside a [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker]] and a [[soapbox]].
*Email [[personal favorites]] — Strong Bad types "I swear on Strong Sad's grave" in the unaired email "[[Tape Leg]] 2".
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] — A picture on the first screen shows The Cheat serving Strong Bad a platter with Strong Sad's head on it.
*Email [[retirement]] — "Strong Sad's ghost" and "Strong Sad's corpse" are among the entries in Strong Bad's Cloud Shape Spotting Log, as seen in an Easter egg.
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Strong Sad's ornament falls to the ground and breaks into several pieces.
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Sad paints a picture with the word "Death" on a bar of soap.

===[[Teen Girl Squad]]===
*The main characters in Teen Girl Squad are killed off nearly every episode in a variety of ways, yet they always come back alive in the next issue, and sometimes later in the same issue, as seen with [[Cheerleader]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
*In an Easter egg of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], [[What's Her Face]] suggests killing someone off for their tenth [[Teen Girl Squad]] issue.

===[[The Cheat]]===
*The Cheat has his own song, [[The Cheat is Not Dead]].
*In the Strong Bad email [[bedtime story]], The Cheat's vitals are tested after being [[Roach Killa!|bug-bombed]] in order to go to sleep. Strong Bad also says "If we're lucky, the Cheat will wake up alive the next morning".
*In [[Date Nite]], Strong Bad suggests drowning Marzipan and The Cheat.

===[[Videlectrix Mascot]]===
*At the beginning of [[Peasant's Quest]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot runs in with a sword, then trips and impales himself on it.
*At the beginning of [[Where's an Egg?]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot shoots the logo with a [[gun]], but the bullet ricochets back and kills him.

===[[Visor Robot]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], memories of his stolen life move him to tears and short out his circuits.

===[[The Yello Dello]]===
*During the mountain scene in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|new version]], [[Pom Pom]] aims his gun at the Yello Dello, but throws it away when Homestar says he wants to "take her alive."

===[[Items#Strong Bad's Computers|Strong Bad's Computers]]===
*Strong Bad's computers often meet with untimely demises, as seen in [[gimmicks]], [[virus]], and [[Biz Cas Fri 3]]. The [[Tandy 400]] returned in ghost form in [[ghosts]], and both the [[Compy 386]] and the Tandy appeared in ghost form after Strong Bad destroyed them in [[retirement]].

===[[Items#The Paper|The Paper]]===
*[[The Paper]] died in the [[the paper|eponymous]] email. After its printer broke, Strong Bad was forced to apply a mercy killing with the [[BMW Lighter]].

==See Also==
*[[Grim Reaper]]
*[[Skulls]]
*[[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]]
*[[Strong Sad's Severed Head]]
*[[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]

[[Category:Prank running gags]]

User:Sompm

Sompm — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:19:20 GMT

Sompm:

hello everybloody. welcome to my page. I don't know why you're here, but who cares. let me tell you a little bit about mysself.

what I am not:
*a girl
*an xbox 360 owner
*a jerk who flips people off all the time
*a drug addict or alchoholic of any kind
*potatoes...

where I am not:
*Washington DC
*the moon
*outside the USA

who I am not:
*an over the hill pervert who looks at child pornography
*a 3 year old
*kenny chesney

when I am not:
*anytime other than right now.

and I don't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 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User:Sompm

Sompm — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:17:53 GMT

Sompm: umm... drawing a blank here.

hello everybloody. welcome to my page. I don't know why you're here, but who cares. let me tell you a little bit about mysself.

what I am not:
a girl
an xbox 360 owner
a jerk who flips people off all the time
a drug addict or alchoholic of any kind
potatoes...

where I am not:
Washington DC
the moon
outside the USA

who I am not:
an over the hill pervert who looks at child pornography
a 3 year old
kenny chesney

when I am not:
anytime other than right now.

and I don't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not 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montage

Sompm — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:11:16 GMT

Sompm:

{{sbenav|117}}
[[Image:sbemail117.png|thumb|A girl. Or maybe a wagon. Filled up with pancakes.]]

Strong Bad "creats" a few montages about a wagon fulla pancakes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Pond]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Race Track]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Stick]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, November 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:15

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{announcing}'' Tonight on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Why don't you creat a montage? 
 
Steve 
Surf City, NJ</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "creat" as "cree-at" and reads NJ as "No Job"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''{in a high-pitched, mocking voice}'' Oooohhh! Why don't you creat an alternate reality where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down! ''{Strong Bad clears the screen and continues typing in normal voice.}'' A montage, eh Watered Down? Like, about whatever? Okay. I'll make a montage about...

''{cut to an empty field}''

Me. ''{Strong Bad appears}''

And a wagon. ''{a wagon appears, and a short tune starts playing}''

Full of pancakes. ''{pancakes appear in the wagon}''

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad and the wagon walking past Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

''{Wipe to a field where Strong Bad kicks the wagon calmly.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad pulling the wagon uphill. Music stops when Strong Bad starts speaking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, or maybe a montage of me falling in love with the wagon full of pancakes.

''{Heart wipe to Strong Bad in a boat with the wagon. They are both holding glasses of wine, romantic music starts playing.}''

''{singing}''

Let's make this moment be the symbol of our lives 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon listening to a Taranchula LP on headphones.}'' 
We'll pawn your dad's computer 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon, under the stars. Strong Bad points to some shooting stars in the distance.}'' 
and we'll sail to paradise 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon spinning around, holding "hands".}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at the movies. Strong Bad drops some popcorn.}'' 
You're a girl... or maybe a wagon... 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Bad puts ketchup on some fries while laughing and smiling.} 
filled up with pancakes 
''{Cut to Strong Bad frolicking across a field as the wagon follows.}'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe a montage of the wagon full of pancakes—

''{Cut to a front door view of The Cheat and the wagon, both sporting business-class fedoras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and The Cheat being down-on-their-luck door-to-door salesmen.

''{Cut to The Cheat lying in the wagon as the wagon rolls past.}''

''{Several doors slam on The Cheat at different angles.}''

''{singing}''
You can't do it so give up now 
Whatcha gonna do when your dough runs out? 
Ain't that a drag? 
''{Cut to the wagon sitting in an arm chair while the Cheat lies on the floor in front, smoking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops singing.}'' No, I got it. A montage of the wagon full of pancakes training—

''{Cut to Homestar in a black shirt that says "The #1" looking at the wagon in a field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —for the championship.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A wagon fulla pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!

''{Zoom in on pancakes as training music starts to play.}''

''{Cut to the wagon climbing the stairs of a stadium.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}''
Guts, guts, and might ''{The wagon's handle slowly collapses on top of a barbell.}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon on a track.}'' 
Lifting weights and feeling all right ''{Strong Bad clicks a stop watch.''} 
''{Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad and the wagon running past a sunset and an ocean.}'' 
It's a showdown going downtown 
You're gonna mess around showdown 
''{Cut to the wagon ascending the bleachers again.}'' 
Put your nose down showdown 
''{Cut to quick shot of wagon jumping up and down at the top of the bleachers.}'' 

''{Cut to Homestar Runner and the wagon in a gym as Coach Z looks on in a referee costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-yah! Hi-yah! ''{Homestar kicks.}''

''{The wagon's handle falls on Homestar, just like it did while training with the barbell, and Homestar falls down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oof!

'''COACH Z:''' The pamcakes wins!

''{A buzzer sounds and the score changes from 6–6 to 6–7 on the scoreboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Showdown.

''{Cut to Strong Bad at the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Those were some good montages, eh Watered Down? That was like, a montage of montages. The only thing we left out is the end credits photo montage. ''{Music starts up}'' Hit it!

''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the boat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}''
Partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon on the beach.}''
It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the movie theater.}'' 
''{Cut to a closeup of The Cheat lying on the floor.}'' 
'''CAPTION:''' The Cheat never sold a single box of toner. He is currently unemployed. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And a wagon... ''party party party''. 
Full of pancakes... 
''{Cut to Homestar kicking in the gym.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Homestar sold his "The #1" shirt for $3(US). He got a good deal. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad frolicing across the field, the wagon not in the photo.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Strong Bad went on to host some show on Animal Planet. 
It was cancelled before the first commercial break. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to the wagon with a fedora.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': After winning the champeenship, the Wagon Fulla Pancakes did some local TV spots for a used car dealership. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
Everybody does it tonnniiight... 
'''CAPTION''': It currently resides in Long Beach with its spouse and 2 children.

''{Homestar quits singing.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down onto the photo.}''

''{Wait a bit at the end to see what becomes of The Paper.}''

'''CAPTION''': The Paper stuck around until
email #173, at which time Strong Bad
upgraded to an inkjet printer.

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end, click on "4 Wheels" on the wagon to see Homestar, undefeated in spirit.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the now dark champeenship stadium}''
:I'm the best around
:Sombadubba sombadubba, take me down!
:I'm the best around!
:Dubba dubba dubbado, take me down!
:''{His score on the score board behind him turns from 0 to -1 as the buzzing sound is heard.}''

*At the end, click on "Strong Bad" to see another scene.
:''{Highly pixelated versions of Strong Bad wearing a pink jogging suit and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes are running through a highly pixelated city, which is the NYC backdrop (minus the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|World Trade Center]] towers) from Punch-Out from the NES.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a showdown going downtown
:You're gonna mess around showdown
:Put your nose down showdown

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*In filmic terms, scholars [[Wikipedia:David Bordwell|David Bordwell]] and Kristin Thompson define a [[Wikipedia:Montage (film)|montage]] sequence as "a segment of film which summarizes a topic or compresses a passage of time into brief symbolic or typical images." Also, montage sequences generally represent a longer passage of time than the also-typical "dissolve" or "fade" techniques between shots.

===Trivia===
*In the original version of this e-mail, the background was static while Strong Bad and the wagon were spinning around. It has since been fixed to blurred trees.
*This email introduces an updated, more symmetrical version of the gray "horns" on Strong Bad's mask.

===Remarks===
*Homestar gets less money for a shirt than he gets for a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[HR:auction.html|"Some Type of Online Auction"]].
*Strong Bad probably changed Steve's name to Watered Down to prevent another "[[Eh! Steve!]]" crack, like he did in [[kids' book]] and [[different town]].
*The scoreboard in the gym has the word "TIMES" written under the timer.

===Goofs===
*As The Cheat keeps getting doors slammed in his face as a salesman, the last place he visits with the blue wall and white door, the door frame ends before the bottom of the toon's frame, and the right end of the door ends before the right of the frame.

===Glitches===
*Between The Wagon's picture and The Paper's picture, there's a split-second sound clip that sounds like the beginning of "It's" from the Champeenship montage, and the Easter egg at the end.

===Inside References===
*The scene with Strong Bad and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes sitting in the canoe is reminiscent of [[lures & jigs]], where Strong Bad and Coach Z fish in the exact same spot. This is probably prompted by the [[lures & jigs]] DVD Commentary, in which [[The Brothers Chaps]] decide to reuse the lake, and which was presumably recorded before this email came out. In doing so, TBC also reused [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the [[Quite Fancy 'Chup|ketchup]] and fries from [[funny]], the [[The Halloween House|house]] from [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and [[The Movie Theatre]] from [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*The song Strong Bad sings when he falls in love with the wagon is reminiscent of the style of [[The Kinda Long-Haired Band]].
*The [[Taranchula]] album cover is the same one from the liner notes of [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], on which their song [[Moving Very Slowly]] appears. The name "Taranchula" also appears in the e-mail [[band names]].
*The first and last house that The Cheat and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes stop at are the same house. They are also the same format of the house that you give treats from in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Besides the [[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge|smoking game]] and [[big white face]], this is the first actual cartoon in which we see [[Smoking#The Cheat's Smoking|The Cheat smoking]]. Strong Bad originally acknowledged The Cheat's nicotine habit in [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*The sparkling water seen while Strong Bad is running on the horizon seems to be the same from [[Main Page 3]].
*The lyric "Lifting weights and feeling all right", from the song played during the training montage, may be a reference to [[dangeresque 3]]'s "Riding in a Corvette and feeling all right" lyric.
*"The #1" T-Shirt is loosely referenced by Strong Sad in the commentary of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search Of The Yello Dello]].
**Though the shirt Strong Sad refers to says "''I'm'' #1" according to him, as opposed to "''The'' #1."
*Strong Bad has a problem identifying things that rhyme with "agon" in song. In this email, he mistakes a wagon for a girl, and in [[dragon]] he mistakes a dragon for a man, or maybe a dragon man. He catches the mistake both times.
*The buzzer used for the scoreboard is the same as the [[DELETED]] buzzer.
*The score of -1 is the first instance of an [[Scoreboard#Irregular Scores|irregular score]].
*Homestar says "champeenship", at one point, wich may refer to the rejected character [[rejected characters|champeen]]

===Real-World References===
*The song Homestar is singing in the Easter egg ("You're the Best") comes from the 1984 classic ''[[Wikipedia:The_Karate_Kid|The Karate Kid]]''. Homestar's headband, bearing the design of an old Japanese flag, is also a reference to this film, and has appeared before in both [[pom pom]] and [[Theme Song Video]].
**There is actually a song called "Training Montage" from Rocky IV by Vince DiCola.
**The scene during which "You're the Best" plays in ''The Karate Kid'' is another well-known martial arts training montage.
*Much of the wagon's training sequence (especially the wagon "running" up the stairs) is a parody of the training sequence from the immortal boxing epic, ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]'', including the "[[Wikipedia:Rocky Steps|Rocky steps]]".
*The Strong Bad Easter egg is a take on the popular [[Nintendo|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!]]'', in which players saw a similar sequence in between bouts of various boxing circuits (the jumps from Minor to Major, and from Major to World).
**The ''Punch-Out!!'' sequence itself was a clear reference to the training sequence in ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]''.
*There actually is a system call in the [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix]] operating system called <tt>creat</tt>. It creat(e)s a new file.
*The "some guy from a zoo" line by Strong Bad during the "Late-Night Talk Show"-style intro is most likely a reference to how such shows often resort to the gimmick of having zoo workers appear on the show, accompanied by their animal partners, whose mischievous antics can often get a cheap laugh from the audience.
*The line about Strong Bad's show being canceled before the commercial break may be a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Turn-On|Turn-On]]'', which was pre-empted by many affiliates a mere 10 minutes into its pilot episode.
*The End Credits Photo Montage song is reminiscent of the ''[[Wikipedia:Queen (band)|Queen]]'' song "Headlong."
*''[[Wikipedia:Animal Planet|Animal Planet]]'' is a TV network devoted to programs about animals and nature.
* The "Where are they now" photos and text at the end of the email are a likely reference to the ending of the 1973 film [[Wikipedia:American Graffiti|American Graffiti]], where it was first used, or the 1978 movie [[Wikipedia:National Lampoon's Animal House|National Lampoon's Animal House]].

===Fast Forward===
[[Image:The Paper---Shreder'd + montage.PNG|thumb|220px|right|'Twas foretold]]
*The Wagon Fulla Pancakes really ''does'' do some spots for a used car dealership, as it shows up in a commercial for [[Senor Cardgage]]'s in [[Senorial Day]].
*Strong Bad and his pink suit from the Easter egg show up again in [[rock opera]].
*Homestar's "weekend" song plays at [[The King of Town]]'s party of [[boring (really)]].
*The "Showdown" song plays while Pom Pom and Homestar work out in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Paper does indeed stick around until email #173 ([[the paper]]), at which time Strong Bad actually does upgrade to an [[New Paper|inkjet printer]]. This change was also foreshadowed in email 172 ([[more armies]]) when The Paper comes down torn and sick looking. Strong Bad remarks that "that's a bad sign".

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MATT:''' Listen... ''{Strong Bad says, "actress Marzipan" in the background.}'' And we've got Marzipan right here with us!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, indecipherable}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' He called you an actress. Isn't that nice?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' Seems like usually he calls you something worse than that.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

''{Matt and Mike both laugh.}''

'''MIKE:''' You're doing a good job acting right now, saying the word "yeah" over and over again.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thank you.

'''MATT:''' Oh, thank you. A new word.

'''MARZIPAN:''' So, what are we here for, today?

'''MIKE:''' We're doing the commentary for the "montage" email.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We're here in this tiny, glass-enclosed booth, recording some commentary.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It is getting smelly in here, too.

'''MATT:''' It is. Mike and I have been in here all day.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It smells like Fritos.

'''MIKE:''' Have you ever seen this email before?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I... haven't.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Look, he's got a wagon fulla pancakes, isn't that something?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Those are not real pancakes.

'''MIKE:''' No? What are they?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I dunno, I think they're made out of plaster.

'''MATT:''' Look, Mike, there's the lake that did appear later as per your, uh, prophecy on the old DVD.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Your comments of the—

'''MIKE:''' ''{indecipherable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that we were going to use it later and— and we did, just a few weeks after that I think.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It really is starting to smell.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Let's comment more on the— on the email. Is that— that was completely new, that— I mean it looks kind of like the one from — can't say "job" — doesn't it? But that theater—?

'''MIKE:''' It's been modified for the theater, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Um, we should head back there someday, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' And maybe we will.

'''MATT:''' For a movie.

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your friend The Cheat.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Look, the pancakes are wearing a hat, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I see.

'''MATT:''' And holding a briefcase somehow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And now they're enjoying a highball.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that The Cheat smoked!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a problem.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that—

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' There's your boyfriend.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar had that— that's ''my'' shirt.

'''MATT:''' That's yours? Uh oh, 'cause he sells it later on in this email, so—

'''MARZIPAN:''' That was mine! I was wondering what happened to it.

'''MATT:''' He got a good deal for it, at least.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What'd he get?

'''MATT:''' Uh, I'm not sure. Probably, like, 17 dollars.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll tell him he needs to split the proceeds.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' He should. Sounds like it should ''all'' go to you; it was ''your'' shirt.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' A nice sunset.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's okay.

''{Pause}''

'''MATT:''' Ohhh, Homestar looks like Daniel LaRusso. His Karate's a joke.

'''MIKE:''' "You think you can rely on that crane crap?"

'''MARZIPAN:''' He's actually trained in Tae Kwon Do.

'''MATT:''' Really? Homestar is?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's probably why he didn't do well with the Karate.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Oh ho! He learned the wrong martial art.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' What do you think of this, um, end of the— end of the movie photo montage?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think it's okay.

'''MATT:''' See, look. Oh! He— no, sorry, I lied. He got it for three bucks. Not 17.

'''MIKE:''' You got a buck-fifty comin' to ya.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I— Animal Planet's my favorite program.

'''MATT:''' Hey, isn't "cancelled" spelled wrong there?

'''MIKE:''' Was it?

'''MATT:''' I think "cancelled" only has one L. Let's change that before we put out this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' We can— ''{Pause}'' Oh, it's not over yet.

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not, Marzipan.

'''MIKE:''' You might think it's over, but it's not.

'''MATT:''' Say something!

'''MIKE:''' Now it's over.

===Fun Facts===
*Daniel LaRusso is the name of the main character from ''[[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]]''.
*"Cancelled" appears on both the website and DVD. Though both are correct ways of spelling, "canceled" is generally a more American way of spelling it.
*Unlike her prior DVD commentary appearances in emails 1-100, Marzipan has largely dropped the premise that homestarrunner.com is a show and not "real" life.
*"Can't Say Job" is the name of the HTML and Flash files for [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tae Kwon Do|Tae Kwon Do]] (literally ''hand and foot art'') is a Korean form of martial arts.

== External Links ==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Rejected Characters

Sompm — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:04:48 GMT

Sompm:

As with all famous cartoon character ensembles, [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] went through its fair share of line-up changes early on, before the final group of twelve main characters were chosen. The '''rejected characters''' are those who seem to have been abandoned, with very few sightings to date. Some appeared in an early toon or game, while others are only seen in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]] or the [[Character Cards]]. All that is known about them for sure is that they won't be around much anymore.

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===== Homeschool Winner =====
The mysterious character of Homeschool Winner came about when a friend of [[the Brothers Chaps]] was unable to recall [[Homestar Runner]]'s name. In the [[Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003|Club Aquatica interview]], [[Matt Chapman|Matt]] recalls that his friend said: "What's your website, HomeschoolWinner.com?" Homeschool is described as "a big nerd, with maybe a creepy edge to him." As revealed in [[Why Come Only One Girl?]] on the [[Everything Else, Volume 2|Everything Else, Volume 2 DVD]], he is very smart, winning a "Quiz Bowl" easily and earning a giant #1 trophy.

The character seems to have been aborted, with few sightings to date. He first appeared and was named on the [[Character Cards]], which are now on a [[secret page]]. He then made a cameo in one of the backgrounds of [[Dancin' Bubs]]. Humorously mentioned in the [[Sample of Style]] video on the [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD]], [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] breaks the tube Matt uses to "make" [[Bubs]]'s voice, and Matt says: "Great. Now we have to kill off Bubs. Just like Homeschool Winner."
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=====The Unguraits=====
The Unguraits are small bandit-like characters. Their only appearance was in the [[Character Cards]], along with Homeschool Winner (seen above). The Brothers Chaps had apparently considered using them as the forces of [[Blue Laser]] in [[Cheat Commandos]] toons, but this idea appears to have been dumped.
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=====Champeen=====
Champeen appears in the background of the [[Dancin' Bubs|Dancin' Bubs Game]]. In the [[Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003|Club Aquatica Interview]], the interviewer refers to her as Strong Glad, but Matt Chapman never agreed that that would be the character's name. Strong Glad is really a sketch of [[Strong Sad]] with long, feminine legs, seen in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]]. After going unidentified for years, the girl was identified as Champeen in [[Why Come Only One Girl?]], and was intended to be the female equivalent of Homestar Runner. In [[montage]], Homestar says "champeenship" rather than championship.
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===== Dijjery-Doo =====
Dijjery-Doo is a character that was abandoned in the design phase because it was too "[[The Cheat|Cheat]]-like" and "walrus-like". It is only seen in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]]. Its name comes from the [[Wikipedia:Didgeridoo|didgeridoo]], a traditional Australian [[Wikipedia:Aborigine|Aboriginal]] instrument. The upper right sketch also resembles the [[Multi Function Dragon]].

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=====Trivia Time=====
Trivia Time was going to be [[Pom Pom]]'s dog. Although there are some concept sketches in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]], he's never appeared directly in a Homestar cartoon because the Brothers Chaps couldn't make a good design. A cookie jar with his likeness is in a few toons, and in [[Homestarloween Party]] one of the [[Pom Pom's girls|girls]]' dog "Chris" looks a lot like Trivia Time. A reference to Trivia Time is made in [[Pom Pom, Too]]: a bowl with the words "Trivia Time" falls from the sky and the words "[Pom-Pom] feeds his Dog... everyday," above and below it.

'''Trivia Time Appearances:'''
* '''Debut:''' [[Pom Pom, Too]]
* [[Sketchbook (museum)]] - Several sketches shown.
* [[Homestar Quiz]] - An early version of the quiz had Trivia Time as an answer.

'''Cookie Jar Appearances:'''
*'''Debut:''' [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*Email [[army]] (Easter egg)
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]
*[[Halloween Fairstival]]
*Email [[radio]]
*Email [[part-time job]] (corner only shown)
*Email [[narrator]] (somewhat obscured)
*[[Kid Speedy]] (Homestar's ending)
*[[Quality Time]]

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|[[Image:Preshyandrafferdy.PNG]]
||

=====Preshy and Rafferdy=====
Preshy (right) and Rafferdy (left), were [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]'s cousins, as shown in [[Why Come Only One Girl?]]. They had been set to appear in the unfinished cartoon "Those Darn Cousins," which was evidently being made around the year 2000. They appear to enjoy torturing "Uncle Homestar", as they call him. According to the [[Why Come Only One Girl#Easter Eggs|DVD commentary]], the cartoon would involve Homestar trying to convince everyone else that his cousins were trying to kill him, as they were nice to Homestar when others were around. Preshy and Rafferdy were voiced by [[The Brothers Chaps]]' niece and nephew.

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=====The Hurricane=====
The Hurricane was an early attempt to introduce a new female character, as shown in [[Why Come Only One Girl?]]. She was chosen as the design of a new female after many scrapped ideas, being described as a "corn-dog-cotton-candy-looking lady". She actually made it into [[Macromedia Flash|Flash]] and was prepped for animation, but according to [[The Brothers Chaps]], the [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda (series)|Legend of Zelda]] game ''[[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|Wind Waker]]'' came out, and the idea was scrapped.
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Sompm — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:45:41 GMT

Sompm: added the unblurred mouth animation glitch

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[[Image:Main24.PNG|220px|thumb|"Has anybody seen my pants?"]]

Everything is viewed through blurred vision.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Place:''' [[The Field]]

'''Icon:''' Glasses

'''Page title:''' 20/200!

'''Date:''' Tuesday, July 24, 2007

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — Homestar holds up a vision testing chart.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Pulsating red dots appear onscreen. Homestar says, "Hey, are you okay? How many fingers am I holding up?"
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Homestar's shirt changes — first to a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Peacey P|Peacey P]] shirt, then to a blue [[Wikipedia:Fila_(company)|Fila]] shirt, then to his [[duckie shirt]], then back to his original star shirt.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — Strong Bad walks through the Field in his [[underwear]] shouting, "My pants! Come here, my pants! Has anybody seen my pants?"
*'''[[Store]]''' — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
*'''[[Email]]''' — Strong Sad appears, holding up Strong Bad's pants and saying, "Well, lookie what I found!"

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
* The page title, "20/200", is the [[Wikipedia: Visual acuity|visual acuity]] measurement used as the threshold for legal blindness.
* The [[Wikipedia: Eye chart|eye chart]] held up by Homestar is known as a "Tumbling E" chart.
* When the glasses are put on, Homestar's shirt logos are still blurred because logos, trademarked designs, and certain words on clothing are often obscured by the producers of visual media (usually television or music videos) when they don't want the logos, designs, or words visible in the final product.

===Trivia===
*The vision chart Homestar holds up reads:
::E W M 
:3 M E W E 
:WME3WEW 
3MWEM3EMEW3WEM

===Remarks===
*By using the Store button after selecting a button which triggers an animation (or by using the [[main page glitch]]), you can watch the scene unblurred.
*The main page has been redesigned slightly:
**The buttons have a new, shinier look.
**There is a little more space in the center.
**The colors on the striped sides are darker and their gradient is more prominent.
**The shadows are larger and more realistic.
**during the "hey are you ok? how many fingers am I holding up" part, homestars mouth animation is off.
*The sky's design is the one used in [[the chair]] and [[Drive-Thru]].
*This main page lacks a [[Irregular Loading Screen|loading screen]].
*The weeklies' pop-up windows are not blurred.
*Strong Bad is seen wearing [[underwear]], but in [[New Boots]], he claims he doesn't wear them. However, he does wear underwear in [[senior prom]] and [[stand-up]].
*This main page does not appear to be included in the Main Page randomizer.
*The [[Main Page Messages]] are not blurred.

===Goofs===
[[Image:SB undawears.PNG|thumb|100px|Legs?]]
*The Weeklies buttons' text, when rolled over, are not in the correct spot.
*The logos on Homestar's shirt extend outside the shirt.
*On Main Pages [[Main Page 15|15]], [[Main Page 22|22]], and 24, at the main page quick links button (in the bottom left corner), the main page 24 button overlaps the white stripe.
*As the glasses are being put on and taken off, the scene is unblurred even outside the lenses.
*Strong Bad's legs don't go through the holes in his underwear, but instead seem to go behind his torso.


===Glitches===
*The [[HR:newbutton.swf|newbutton.swf]] file slightly overlaps the frames of the glasses.
*Main Page 24 is the only main page that currently does not function correctly on the [[Wikipedia: Nintendo Wii|Nintendo Wii]] and [[Wikipedia:PlayStation 3|PlayStation 3]]'s web browsers. The text on the links on the left side of the screen is missing, and the links are not clickable. The links also do not produce the roll-over effects either. The Main Page selection in the bottom left-hand corner is missing entirely. All of the buttons on the top right-hand corner are missing as well. Homestar also lacks the star on his shirt, and the blur effects are not visible (but the page is slightly faded). Strong Bad is also legless.
**This is due to the Wii and PS3's web browsers only supporting Flash Player 7 and lower content, while Flash 8 or higher is necessary to do the blurring effects found here.


===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to his [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible fingers]].
*This is another appearance of Homestar's [[duckie shirt]].
*Strong Bad and Strong Sad both make references to Strong Bad's [[pants]].
*Blurry T-shirt logos and [[Peacey P]] were previously featured in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Fila (company)|Fila]] is an Italian sportswear manufacturing company.

==External Links==
*[[HR:main24.html|go to Main Page 24]]
*[[HR:main24.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 24]]
*[[Forum:11984|forum thread re: Main Page 24]]
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Halloween Potion-ma-jig

Sompm — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:34:34 GMT

Sompm: ending with homsar

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[[Image:ween05.png|thumb|Choose It or Lose It!]]
Homestar screws up Marzipan's potion. Choose-your-own-venture action ensues!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Hornblower}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Goblin}}, [[Tofu Homestar]]

See '''[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[Homestar Runner's House]], [[Spooky Woods]], [[Cliffs#Creepy Cliff|Creepy Cliff]]

'''Page Title:''' Choose it or Lose it!

'''Date:''' Tuesday, November 1, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 6:00 (Site Approximation)

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

==Transcript==
''{Spooky sounds play against a darkened wall. Homestar Runner's shadow appears from the left, and Homestar himself then appears suddenly.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wah! You scared me! So, here's the deal: I'm lost inside this haunted mansion, and I need your help to find my costume and get outta here! So, what should we do first?

''{The screen displays: 'WHAT SHOULD WE DO?? 1. PET A GOAT 2. MAKE A STEW 3. "I'M SELLING THESE FINE LEATHER JACKETS..."' A "COSTUME LOCATOR" is in the lower left and a "HEALTH & BEAUTY" indicator, showing 100%, is in the lower right. Then, after a moment, the lights suddenly come on and the camera pans back, revealing the interior of Homestar's house, including pictures of Homestar's past costumes framed on the wall. Marzipan walks up with a wig and a pile of clothes. A sheet of paper can be seen in front of Homestar, with doodles all over it and several markers scattered around it.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' What up, Homestar? Here's your costume!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{taking the costume}'' Oh, thanks. You win!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{noticing the paper and markers}'' Homestar Michael Runner, what did you do—

''{A closeup of the paper is shown. It reads:}''

<div style="text-align:center; padding:8px; border: 1pt solid #000; width:300px">Halloween Potion 1. *****-Water 2. Powdered ********* 3. Essence of ********* Stir ingredients with a *********** Say this magic incantation: *****************************</div>

''{Drawings of bugs and [[ducks]] obscure all of the important parts, asterisked. Also, Homestar has written [[:Image:Mean sean.PNG|"MEAN SEAN"]], "QUACK TIME", and "COOL DUCK" on various parts of the paper.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' —to my Halloween Potion recipe?

''{Homestar and Marzipan appear again.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, yeah. ''{turns away from Marzipan}'' Marzipaaan! Can I draw ducks and bugs all over the recipe for your Halloween Potion?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No way, Jorge. You're gonna figure out what those ingredients were and bring 'em back here before midnight. Now march your skinny white butt into those spooky woods, mister!

''{Music starts.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{humbly}'' Yes, Mom-zipan.

''{The screen displays "HALLOWEEN POTION-MA-JIG" and "A MAKE-YOUR-OWN-DECISION-VENTURE", followed by the usual credits (with the notable addition of "[[Jonathan Howe|Jonathan]] programs"), over the drawings of bugs and ducks. Then, cut to the spooky woods, where Homestar is now in costume.}''

===The Water===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right! These spooky woods gotta be chock full of spooky ingredients. Let's see, the first one is ''{pulls out the paper}'' "Something Water." Hmmmmmmmm...

'''COACH Z:''' ''{from a distance}'' Really?

''{cut to Coach Z and Pom Pom}''

'''COACH Z:''' Then how come they'll be all nice to ya and act like they like ya to your face?

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''COACH Z:''' Guess I have a lot to learn about mailmen.

''{Homestar walks up}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, what are you guys doin' out here? Did you ruin somebody's magic potion too?

'''COACH Z:''' Uh... nope. Unless Coach Z's life is a magic potion.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool, cool, depressing, cool. So, um...

''{A box shows up reading "CHOICE TIME!!!" and the three choices:}''

==== 1. Do either of you have any... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do either of you have any cash on you? ''{imitating a shady drifter}'' I'm trying to get a me a sandwich or somethin'. Uh, my car broke down and I'm out of gas.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, sorry, man. All I gots is this bottle of, uh, ghost water?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's perfect! I was planning on blowin' that money on ghost water anyways.

''{A "scorecard" comes up with spaces for all the items you get. The first blank is filled with "Ghost Water". A victory sound plays.}''

==== 2. I need something that would be... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I need something that would be good in a Halloween Potion.

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles and pulls a severed toe out of his pocket}''

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom can getcha a toe. With nail polish!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um... do you have anything waterier? Or... more waterish? Or waterian?

'''COACH Z:''' Please, Homestar, stop! Just take this bottle of questionable water that I keep on my person at all times for questionable reasons!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I won't question that!

''{A "scorecard" comes up with spaces for all the items you get. The first blank is filled with "Questionable Water". A victory sound plays.}''

==== 3. Taco-Man came by... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Taco-Man came by. He gave me some water, he gave me some water. What are you guys gonna do for me?

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom, give the man some stank water. I will not be upstaged by Taco-Man two years in a row!

''{A "scorecard" comes up with spaces for all the items you get. The first blank is filled with "Stank Water". A victory sound plays.}''

=== The Powder ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I gotta keep searchin'. ''{starts to walk offscreen to the right}'' Too bad I probably won't run into anybody else mysteriously hanging out in the woods.

''{Cut to The King of Town and The Poopsmith. The King of Town is holding a bucket of fried chicken. Holes are dug all over the place. Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! Whaddaya know! How ya diggin'?

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oh! We're certainly not trying to unearth the ham sandwich that I buried here when I was nine.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Good. 'Cause I found that thing like two months ago. It wasn't that good. Too much mayo.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Too much mayo?! I ''love'' too much mayo!

''{The choice dialogue comes up again.}''

==== 1. Hey! I've got it... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, I've got it! I'll give you a detailed account of the consumption of your ham sammie if you give me a powdered item for this Potion-ma-jig!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Sweet deal! Take some of this powdered Thanksgiving! Now let's hear it!

''{The screen starts to fade out.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, so first I washed all the dirt off with some Windex. That made it blue and soggy...

''{It fades back in. The King of Town has his head lowered in emotion. His chicken bucket is empty.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...and that last bite nearly made me puke it right back on my plate!

''{Homestar walks off and takes the powder as he goes.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oh, I wish you had. I surely wish you had!

''{The scorecard returns. The second blank is filled with "Powdered Thanksgiving".}''

==== 2. I say, is that a powdered... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I say, is that a powdered wig you're wearing, your Kentucky Fried-ness? 'Cause I'm in the market for some powdery dealings!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{pulls out a pouch}'' Well, I've got my secret blend of eleven herbs and spices. But, of course, you can't have that.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, that's too bad. I guess I'll just go on home and— ''{starts popping in and out of the holes, snatching the powder while he hops around}'' Pyong-pyong-pyong-pyong-pyong! ''{appears from one of the holes, holding the powder}'' So long, suckers!

''{Homestar drops back into the hole.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ha! That blend was just a decoy! It only has ''ten'' herbs and spices!

''{The scorecard appears with "Powdered Herbs & Spices".}''

==== 3. Poopsmith, do I dare ask... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Poopsmith, do I dare ask what powdered delights you've unearthed?

''{The Poopsmith digs in the dirt and a pouch pops out, which Homestar catches.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, ground ground. Thanks thanks, guys guys.

''{The scorecard appears with "Powdered Ground Ground"}''

===Homsar===
''{This scene only happens if you click on the upper half of The Poopsmith as Homestar walks away (an Easter egg). Homsar is floating on a balloon, as per his costume (Tingle from [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|The Legend of Zelda Series]].) Homestar walks up, and looks at him, annoyed.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, great, the secret guy.

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaA—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just gimme my choices!

''{Homsar throws confetti, and the bottom of the screen reads:}''

<blockquote>
HOISIN SAUCE! 
2TH: HORSE IT ON IN THERE! 
THAT'S A LOT! A LOT! A LOT! A LOT! 
> What wouldst thou deau?</blockquote>

''{With The Hornblower's head and some circus peanuts over it. The text is crooked and in multiple fonts.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What I'm supposed to do with ''that'' mess? I'm outta here!

''{The "ding" sound effect plays backwards as the box of text vanishes. Homestar walks away.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Location, location, location!

=== The Essence ===
''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are standing around a cliff, with broken TVs littering the area. Strong Bad's face is obscured by the cabinet doors on his costume. Strong Mad grunts and tosses a broken TV. Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa. This is a cool new background!

''{The TV Strong Mad tossed falls in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{opening his costume's doors}'' Yeah! We were just burying our problems here in the spooky woods when we found this creepy cliff! It's perfect for the chucking off of busted old TVs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Essence of busted old TVs? 'Cuz I got a serious jones!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, I think these TVs lost their essence in the seventies. What are you doing here, anyways?

''{The choice box returns:}''

==== 1. I've always felt that... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've always felt that essence of rose petals is my very most favorite essence.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I agree, The Cheat. Essence of doo doo meringue has always been my favorite. In fact... there's a whole bunch of it down at the bottom of this cliff you can have.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumping off the cliff}'' Cannonball!

''{The scorecard appears with "Essence of Doo doo meringue"}''

==== 2. I'm trying to ruin Marzipan's... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm trying to ruin Marzipan's Halloween Potion. Got any leads?

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's a worthy cause if ever there was one! How about this essence of putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water while he's asleep?

'''STRONG MAD:''' MY SECRET SHAME!

''{The Cheat tosses a bottle off the cliff. Homestar jumps after it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks a lot you guuuuuuuuuys!

''{The scorecard returns with "Essence of Putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water while he's asleep".}''

==== 3. I'm in the mood for a... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm in the mood for a Hovan roll!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, me too. Let's have a race to the food court. Here's the starting line. Ready, go!

''{The Cheat draws a line in dirt next to the cliff's edge.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{running over cliff}'' Eat my duuuuuuuust!

''{The scorecard returns with "Essence of Gullibility".}''

===The stirring utensil===
''{Cut back to Strong Bad's posse}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Meka-leka-hi-meka-The Cheat throw a TV on 'im...

''{The Cheat drops a TV over the cliff.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...ho.

''{The doors on Strong Bad's costume close once more. Cut to Bubs, standing by a canister labeled "BUBS' MO'BILE CAN o' STIRRING UTENSILS". ("Bile" is in green.) Homestar bounces once on the ground and then lands on his feet next to Bubs. The TV crashes behind Homestar at the same spot where he had bounced off, narrowly missing him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Bubs! Fancy runnin' into you in the middle of the spooky woods sellin' stirring utensils.

'''BUBS:''' It's a niche market.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So, what kind of concoctions might one stir with your wares?

'''BUBS:''' Well, a little eye of newt, some toe of frog. Baby, you got a witches' brew goin'.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, that's my line! So, how do I score one of those jobbies?

'''BUBS:''' Oh, they're free. But you gotta ''earn'' 'em!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, that doesn't sound free at all.

'''BUBS:''' Well you just gotta ''earn'' 'em.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' How should I do that?

''{The choice box returns:}''

==== 1. Do a dance ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dances}'' A little to the left, come on, come on, back to the right, shake it around. ''{he repeats it over Bubs's next line}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh, yeah! Stick and move, stick and move! You're pretty good, shorty. ''{pulls a red spoon from his canister}'' That's worth at least a ''Jurassic Park III'' collector's spoon.

''{The scorecard returns with "Stirring utensil: JP3 Collector Spoon".}''

==== 2. Sing a song ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, here goes. Two and three and four. ''{singing terribly while off-key music plays in the background, and Bubs covers his ears, agitated}'' Backyard peaches! Treats come true! Karate Summer, what wouldja do? The world is the egg, and diapers come true...

'''BUBS:''' Oh! Heard enough of that one! You... you get a chewed-up pen.

''{The scorecard returns with "Stirring utensil: Chewed Up Pen".}''

==== 3. Reagan impression ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{leaning over, in a low voice}'' Well... well... Nancy and I... economics... well... rap music... jellybeans... well... we... probably had a... pet...

'''BUBS:''' That's the worst Ronald Reagan impression I've ever heard!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{standing upright}'' ''Ronald'' Reagan?! I was doing my Keanu Reagan!

'''BUBS:''' Just take this terlet brush and get outta here!

''{The scorecard returns with "Stirring utensil: Terlet Brush".}''

===The magic words===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{walking off}'' Thanks, Great American Bubs!

''{Cut to a closeup of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now to find Strong Sad. Anything that guy says will make ''great'' magic words!

''{Cut to Strong Sad, half-buried and asleep. Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Sad. Nice fire hydrant costume!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh. Mineral water... ''{wakes up and looks at Homestar}'' What?

''{The choice box returns:}''

==== 1. I just graduated... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I just graduated. What should my epitaph say?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Homestar, do you even have half a brain?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hot biscuits! Those are the best magic words I've ever heards!

''{The scorecard appears with "Magic Words: Do you even have half a brain".}''

==== 2. If you were at a party... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If you were at a party, what would you rap?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Each day, we die a little more, yo! Betta ax somebod-ay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Fresh beats! My favorite!

''{The scorecard appears with "Magic Words: Better Ax Somebod-ay".}''

==== 3. Taco-Man came by... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Taco-Man came by. We played a little foosball, played a little foosball. So, what are some of your favorite words?

'''STRONG SAD:''' In no particular order: Loquentia... Imbruglia... Precipitous... Saralee...cheesecake... Denouement...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Those are great!

''{The scorecard appears with "Magic Words: Loquentia, Imbruglia, Precitpitous, Saraleecheesecake, Denouement".}''

=== The potion ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks for the words, half-man! ''{walks off}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Go forward! Move ahead. Try to detect it! It's not too late.

''{Cut to Homestar's house, where Homestar and Marzipan are standing near a bubbling cauldron.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, so here's what I came up with: a bottle of ''{"Ghost," "Questionable," or "Stank"}'' water, ''{he throws the bottle into the cauldron}'' ''{"A secret blend of eleven Herbs and Spices," "Some Ground Ground," or "Some Powdered Thanksgiving"; it's thrown into the cauldron too}'', and essence of ''{"Doo Doo Meringue", "Putting Strong Mad's Hand in Warm Water while He's Asleep", or "Gullibility, whatever that is"; again, he throws it into the cauldron}''. ''{Pulls out the stirring utensil}'' And give a little stir with this ''{"Jurassic Park III Collector's Spoon", "Chewed Up Pen", or "Terlet Brush"}''. And say these magic words. ''{He hands an index card to Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{"Do you even have half a brain", "Better Ax Somebod-ay", or "Loquentia, Imbruglia, Precipitous, Saraleecheesecakia, Denouement"}''

''{The cauldron makes a "poof" sound and smoke emerges, and Marzipan dips a cup into it.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Here, Homestar. ''{hands the cup to Homestar and smiles}'' Have some Melonade!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Don't mind if I do! ''{He drinks the contents of the cup.}''

''{See the fun facts section to see how the endings scenes are chosen. These are the different effects on Homestar:}''

====End 1: Tofu Homestar====
''{After drinking the potion, Homestar turns into the Tofu version of himself as seen in [[The Luau]].}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yay, Homestar! You're back to your old self again!

''{The tofu head slides off into the cauldron and a flame covers Tofu Homestar, who reverts back to his regular self without his Halloween costume}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{disappointed}'' Yay, Homestar. You're back to your old self again...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing and shaking his butt}'' That costume makes your butt look big.

====End 2: Cycloptic Homestar====
''{Homestar suddenly loses his wig and sprouts one enormous eye on his face.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yelps}'' Marzipan! There's only one of you!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Don't tell me you forgot how to use your eyes again.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Are you trying to tell me that I haven't been dating twins this whole time?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Um, I don't think you're gonna have to worry about dating anyone from now on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray!

====End 3: [[French]] Homestar====
''{Homestar takes on the appearance of a suave foreigner.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, goody goody gumdrops!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{in a bad accent}'' I say, Marzipan, let us away to my romantic chateau in the Fantastic mountains!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll go pack my pashmina. ''{walks off screen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, in his regular voice}'' Oh, gettin' lucky toniiiiiiight...

====End 4: Freaky Marzipan====
''{After drinking the potion, Homestar turns into a normally-dressed Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hooray! I'm not the only girl!

''{As Freaky Marzipan speaks, her horrible teeth and wobbly mouth become visible.}''

'''FREAKY MARZIPAN:''' ''{very distorted voice}'' I think we're gonna become fast friends!

''{Marzipan shrieks and runs off; Freaky Marzipan makes a silly face.}''

====End 5: The Goblin====
''{Homestar transforms into The Goblin.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, he's so cute! Do it, do it, do it!

''{The Goblin dances as his organ chord plays.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ...annd  scene!

=== The finale ===

''{The screen fades to black. After a few seconds, one of Homestar's bug drawings appears in the center of the screen with "THE END". After a few more seconds, the screen fades back to Spooky Woods. All of the characters are standing around. "BACK" and "PLAY AGAIN (SKIP INTRO)" buttons are seen.}''

==Easter Eggs==

* Click on the upper half of The Poopsmith as Homestar is leaving to see a scene with Homsar (transcription [[#Homsar|above]]).
* At the end, homsar is only visible if you have previously activated his easter egg.
* At the end, click on Pom Pom:
:'''STRONG BAD:''' So, what, Pom Pom? You're every guy at a truck stop?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh oh, Strong Bad.
:''{Pom Pom produces a gun.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're entering a world of pain.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' DONNY! YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!
* At the end, click on Bubs:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Bubs, I like your Lando Calrissian outfit!
:'''BUBS:''' What are you talking about? I'm the master of disaster!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh-oh. Poopsmith, get ready...
* At the end, click on Marzipan:
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Beaker-style meeps}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, can you understand her?
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, turns to Marzipan}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Beaker-style meeps}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Quicker Beaker-style meeps}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angry The Cheat noises, turns away}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{normal}'' Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that meant something else.
* At the end, click on Strong Bad:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, Blanche from the Golden Girls? Genius!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not Blanche from the Golden Girls.
:'''BUBS:''' No, no, he's Phyllis Diller!
:'''COACH Z:''' I thought you were supposed to be my hot mom!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'm Jambi the genie! You know, "Wish? Did somebody say wish?"
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I wish you'd dress up as something I could recognize! Pop culture... mumble grumble...
* At the end, click on Homestar:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad! ''{adopts "shady drifter" impression}'' Let me get a few dollars. I'm trying to catch a train. My wife, she's pregnant. And I have thirteen kids. I'm on hard times.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, at least your shady drifter impression is better than your Ronald Reagan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! I can hit you with some more of that too! ''{adopts Ronald Reagan impression}'' Well... well... Oliver Cromwell...
* At the end, click on Coach Z:
:'''STRONG BAD:''' So Coach, how come you weren't a rapper this year? [[Image:Ween 2005 The Cheat Poomp.PNG|thumb|130px|Poomp!]]
:'''COACH Z:''' But I am! Theo Huxtable is one of the greatest rappers of our time! ''{Hip-Hop Dances with his arms and head}'' Jammin' on the one! Jammin' on the one! J-J-Jammin' on the one! Jammin' on the one!
* At the end, click on The Cheat:
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, which sound very similar in phrasing to Toad's catchphrase from Mario Kart 64, "I'm the best!"''}
:''{There is a soft explosion, and The Cheat blasts into the air; he does several flips and then lands in place with a POOMP.}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, which sound very similar to Toad's "wipe out" noise from Mario Kart 64.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Putting someone's hand in warm water while they sleep is a common prank believed to make the victim involuntarily urinate.
*[http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?Loquentia Loquentia] is a Latin word whose root means to speak or to utter.
*[[Wikipedia:pashmina|Pashmina]] is the fleece of feral Himalayan goats that is used to make shawls that are referred to by the same name. It is similar to cashmere and was quite popular in the mid 1990s.
*To be [[Wikipedia:Precipitous|precipitous]] is to bring about especially abruptly, or to be very steep.
*[[Wikipedia:Denouement|Denouement]] is the resolution part of a story which comes after its climax.

===Trivia===
*The ducks and bugs Homestar drew on the potion are:
<gallery>
Image:Duck1.PNG|<center>'''Cool Duck'''</center>
Image:Duck2.PNG
Image:Duck3.PNG|<center>'''Quack Time'''</center>
Image:Duck4.PNG
Image:Duck5.PNG
</gallery>
<gallery>
Image:Bug1.PNG
Image:Bug2.PNG|<center>'''Mean Sean'''</center>
Image:Bug3.PNG
Image:Bug4.PNG
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*The original potion read:
<div style="text-align:center; padding:8px; border: 1pt solid #000; width:300px">Halloween Potion 1. Ghost-Water 2. Powdered Pigs' Feet 3. Essence of Nightroot Stir ingredients with a wooden spoon Say this magic incantation: 
"Sip it down and swish it 'round"</div>
*This toon was released at about 1:30 a.m. on November 1, Atlanta time. All day the previous day, the [[Main Page Messages|button on the main page]] read, ''"workin' as fast as we can!"''. When the toon was finally released, the button read: ''"it's still halloween!"'' (when you moved your mouse over it, it switched to: ''"in certain timezones!"''). Later in the day, the button was changed to simply read: ''"halloween toon!"''
*The shirt Coach Z is wearing is from ''[[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]'''s first-season episode "[http://www.tv.com/the-cosby-show/a-shirt-story/episode/6802/summary.html A Shirt Story]," in which Denise tries to hand-make Theo a designer shirt and butchers it in the process. The fictitious brand of shirt was called a "Gordon Gartrelle," and the original cost Theo $95. The "Jammin' on the one" line is a reference to the episode "[http://www.tv.com/a-touch-of-wonder/episode/6836/summary.html|A Touch Of Wonder]," in which guest star [[Wikipedia:Stevie Wonder|Stevie Wonder]] sampled the voices of the Huxtable family and made them into a song.
* There are five endings to this toon. Which ending is seen is determined by adding together all the numbers of the choices made, dividing by five, taking the remainder (numbered zero to four), and adding one. Thus, if you choose 2, 1, 3, 3, and 2, you would get 2 + 1 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 11 / 5 = 2, remainder 1. Add 1 to that, and you get ending 2. (See the talk page for the source code.)
*If the remainder is:
:*0, then you see ending 1: Tofu Homestar. There are 53 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 5, 10, or 15 this ending is displayed.
:*1, then you see ending 2: Cyclops Homestar. There are 50 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 6 or 11 this ending is displayed.
:*2, then you see ending 3: French Homestar. There are 45 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 7 or 12 this ending is displayed.
:*3, then you see ending 4: Freaky Marzipan. There are 45 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 8 or 13 this ending is displayed.
:*4, then you see ending 5: The Goblin. There are 50 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 9 or 14 this ending is displayed.
*The total number of possible sequences of potion ingredients is 35, or 243.
*According to the [[Quote of the Week#2005-11-03|Quote of the Week]] on November 3, Bubs originally gave out an ''[[IMDb:tt0114781|Under Siege 2]]'' collector's spoon instead of the ''Jurassic Park III'' collector's spoon.
* The Flash file appears to have been updated 12 hours after the toon was originally released. The update expanded the Tofu Homestar scene, which originally ended immediately after Marzipan's line "You're back to your old self again!", before Tofu Homestar's head fell into the cauldron, but with the animation suggesting it was about to do so. The change was likely made to remove any suggestion that Homestar had "died" by being transformed into an inanimate object. The update also added an extra "THE END" scene and an Easter Egg (The Cheat). It is possible that these elements were originally planned for the original release but left out due to time constraints (see Trivia).
*This is the most recent toon to include opening credits.

===Remarks===
* The pictures above Homestar's cabinet are changed for the holiday. They ordinarily show his changing appearance over the years. This time, they depict all his past [[Halloween costumes]] from 2000 to the present.
* This is the first time Homestar is mentioned as having a middle name ("Michael") in a toon. (In the DVD commentary for [[time capsule]], however, Marzipan offhandedly remarked that Hal was his middle name.)
* All of the spooky trees in the background are the same shape, just in different sizes and orientations. Also, the first two backgrounds for Pom Pom, Coach Z, the Poopsmith, and the King of Town are identical.
* Besides stealing Homestar's [[Witches' Brew]] "line," as Homestar points out, Bubs also appropriates the "terlet" pronunciation of "toilet" that Coach Z has used in [[Halloween Fairstival]] and [[A Folky Tale]]. This spelling shows up on the scorecard as well, but Homestar still pronounces it as "toilet" when he hands it over to Marzipan. (Homestar's speech impediment causes a mispronunciation of the mispronunciation, making it correct again.)
* Homestar's costume includes a pair of shoes. When Marzipan gives him his costume, however, the shoes do not appear to be included.
* Strong Bad comments on Homestar's Reagan impression even if you use one of the other choices.
** Also, when Strong Bad comments on his Reagan impression, Homestar agrees that he was impersonating Ronald Reagan and not Keanu Reagan.
* When not wearing a costume, Bubs has no thumbs. Mysteriously, though, the thumbs on his white boxing gloves seem to move like he does.
* When Strong Bad said "burying our troubles", he was probably referring to half-buried Strong Sad.
* While in costume, Marzipan's mouth seems to be in [[Marzipan Evolution|an earlier version]], both in the actual cartoon and at the end with the whole ensemble.

===Goofs===
*[[Wikipedia:Gossamer_(Looney_Tunes)|Gossamer]] actually has a redder tint than the the bright orange color of Strong Mad's costume.
*When Strong Bad's cabinet doors are open, they appear to be symmetrical; they shouldn't be able to fit together when closed.
*When he looks directly into the camera, Strong Bad's left eye seems to jut a little into the V-shape on his mask.
*Homestar's [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars|Converse All-Star Hi-Tops]] have stars on both sides of each shoe, when they should have stars [http://www.martyshoes.com/store/media/con-s049622-9160men500.jpg only on the inner side].
*When The Cheat pushes the television off of the edge of the cliff, the dent on the top is towards the right. When it lands, however, the dent has switched sides.
*If you choose "I'm in the mood for a..." when getting the Essence, the line disappears when it cuts back to the cliff.

===Glitches===
*You can see a "hiccup" in the animation of the pot's bubbling when the cartoon switches to one of the variables in the combination you made.
*Unlike the other characters, Homsar shows scroll-over information during the finale Easter eggs even while the rest of the characters comment on their costumes. This is because he is a movie clip that overlays the scene.
*When you click on The Cheat at the end, Strong Bad's head changes size and his mouth closes a bit, and everybody moves slightly.
*When clicking on most of the characters that activate Easter Eggs at the end, Marzipan's mouth changes expression unexpectedly.
*When Marzipan's angry expression is used, blinking causes her outline to be intruded.


===Inside References===
* Pom Pom is wearing the same [[Cool Shades|shades]] that [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] usually sports.
* The King's bucket of "KnF'nC" chicken is from [[monster truck]].
* The circus peanuts that appear in the Homsar Easter egg were also used when Homestar comes to the door in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
* This toon is also done in the style of a decision-making game, just like [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
* "What wouldst thou deau?" is a reference to [[video games]] and [[Thy Dungeonman]].
* The broken TV sets look exactly the same as the TV from Pile of Electronics State after The Cheat smashed it in [[mascot]].
* Bubs's collection of stirring utensils includes the [[Orange Bowl and Spoon#Orange Spoon|orange Tupperware spoon]].
* Strong Sad's line, "Each day we die a little more," and Marzipan's line, "I'm not [[the only girl]]," are references to their respective lines from the [[Who Said What Now?]].
* Cyclops Homestar's eye resembles the fake eye he wore in [[Malloween Commercial]].
* Tofu Homestar first appeared in [[The Luau]].
* French Homestar singing "Getting lucky tonight" is a reference to [[Cool Things]], where Strong Sad sings the same phrase.
* The gun Pom Pom draws at the end is from [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
* When Strong Bad mentions that Coach Z didn't dress as a rapper this year (despite the Coach's comment about Theo Huxtable), he is referring to all of Coach Z's previous [[Coach Z#Halloween Costumes|costumes]].
* The exchange between several of the characters about Strong Bad's costume refers to previous [[Strong Bad#Halloween Costumes|Halloween Toons]] in which he had to [[What are you supposed to be?|explain his costume]] to the rest of the cast.
* Marzipan's Halloween potion is another example of a [[concoction]].

===Real-World References===

*The phrase "I'm selling these fine leather jackets" is a reference to multiple PC games created by [[Wikipedia:LucasArts|LucasArts]] which featured the line as a running gag. The line originated in ''[[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure|Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade]]'' and was repeated in ''[[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis|Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis]]'', the ''[[Wikipedia:Monkey Island|Monkey Island]]'' series, ''[[Wikipedia:Sam and Max|Sam and Max]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Full Throttle|Full Throttle]]''.
*Marzipan's line, "No way, Jorge." is a permutation of the more common "No way, José."; possibly a play on the spanish pronunciation of the name "George", even though "José" translates to "Joseph".
*The Cutters (on Homestar's T-shirt) is the name of the town group that was featured in the 1979 movie ''[[Wikipedia:Breaking Away|Breaking Away]]'', a movie about a group of bicyclists at [[Wikipedia:Indiana University Bloomington|Indiana University]] that race in the annual "[[Wikipedia:Little 500|Little 500]]" every spring. Homestar's character, Moocher, was a member of the group.
*"Taco-Man" is the signature character of the website [http://www.ebolaworld.com Ebolaworld], which has used Homestar in cameos on more than one occasion. Perhaps the Brothers Chaps have decided to repay the favor. (As a side note, the Halloween special that Ebolaworld had planned for the same year was also a choose-your-own adventure cartoon.)
*The secret blend of eleven herbs and spices is a reference to [[wikipedia:KFC|KFC's]] claim that [[Wikipedia:Colonel Sanders|Colonel Sanders']] recipe had eleven secret herbs and spices, although it curiously does not claim that this is the recipe in current use.
*[[Wikipedia:Windex|Windex]] is a trademark for a liquid glass and surface cleaning product made by [[Wikipedia:S. C. Johnson & Son|S. C. Johnson & Son]].
*Homsar throwing the confetti is a reference to his costume ([[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]]), who also throws confetti when he says the magic words ("Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-limpah!").
*[[Wikipedia:Hoisin Sauce|Hoisin sauce]], a fermented soy bean paste, is used as a condiment and also as a glaze for roasted meats, most commonly with [[Wikipedia:Peking Duck|Peking Duck]]. It is often referred to as "Chinese barbecue sauce."
*"THAT'S A LOT! A LOT! A LOT! A LOT!" is a reference to the bank teller in ''[[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'' for the [[Nintendo#Nintendo 64|Nintendo 64]], who said it if you deposited more than fifty rupees all at once. This was the first game that Tingle appeared in, so it's quite appropriate.
*Homsar's line ("location, location, location") refers to the three most important things in [[Wikipedia:real estate|real estate]]. His costume character, Tingle, serves to help Link navigate by selling him maps in ''The Legend of Zelda'' series.
*Rose petal essence was an ingredient for the spell to turn into an eagle or fly in ''[[Wikipedia:King's Quest III|King's Quest III]]''. Especially given this allusion, the whole premise of the cartoon is likely based on the formulaic combination of ingredients, stirring, and magic words required to perform the [http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/the_fairway/game_pages/kings_quest_3.html spells] in King's Quest III.
*[http://www.hovan.com Hovan] is a restaurant chain in Florida and Georgia, located in mall food courts, that sell [[Wikipedia:Gyro|gyro-style]] wraps.
*Strong Bad mixes up the quote of his costume character, Jambi the Genie (from ''[[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-Wee's Playhouse]]''). The original quote is "Meka Leka Hi, Meka Hiney Ho!"
*Bubs's recommendation of "eye of newt" and "toe of frog" originated as magical ingredients in [http://www.bartleby.com/70/4141.html Act IV, Scene 1, line 16] of Shakespeare's ''[[Wikipedia:Macbeth|Macbeth]]'', one of the most famous and influential depictions of witches in Western culture.
*Bubs's quote "Baby, you've got a [[witches' brew]] goin'" is a reference to the television show ''[[Wikipedia:Arrested Development (TV series)|Arrested Development]]'', where [[Wikipedia:Carl Weathers|Carl Weathers]], the actor who played [[Wikipedia:Apollo Creed|Apollo Creed]], portrays himself as extremely cheap, and sometimes comments that if certain leftover foods are combined, "Baby, you've got a stew goin'."
* Bubs's comment about "Stick and move! Stick and move!" is a reference to the advice Duke gave Apollo Creed in [[IMDb:0075148|the original Rocky movie]]. [http://www.filmsite.org/rock5.html]
*''[[wikipedia:Jurassic Park III|Jurassic Park III]]'' is a movie in the ''[[wikipedia:Jurassic Park|Jurassic Park]]'' series.
*[[wikipedia:Ronald Reagan|Ronald Reagan]] was a movie actor and the 40th president of the United States. "Nancy" refers to his widow, [[wikipedia:Nancy Reagan|Nancy Reagan]]. [[Wikipedia:Jelly beans|Jelly beans]] were famously one of Reagan's favorite foods. Reagan was also known for usually starting his statements with the word "well." He was famous for his economic policies, called "[[Wikipedia:Reaganomics|Reaganomics]]." He also did have [[Wikipedia:List_of_presidential_pets|pets]], among them a [[Wikipedia:Cavalier_king_charles_spaniel|Cavalier King Charles Spaniel]] named [[Wikipedia:Rex (dog)|Rex]].
*"Keanu Reagan" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Keanu Reeves|Keanu Reeves]], an actor most famous for his roles in ''Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure'', and the ''Matrix'' trilogy.
*Homestar's line "I just graduated. What should my epitaph say?" is a reference to the theme of many high school graduation speakers of "What will your epitaph say?"
*[[Wikipedia:Natalie Imbruglia|Natalie Imbruglia]] is an Australian-born singer and actress. However, Strong Sad and Marzipan both mispronounce her last name (the "g" is silent).
*"[[Wikipedia:Sara Lee|Sara Lee]]" is an American consumer-goods company and is also the brand name of a number of frozen and packaged foods, including cheesecake.
*Strong Sad's words as Homestar departs are taken from [[Wikipedia:Devo|Devo]]'s 1980 hit "Whip It."
*[[Wikipedia:Lando Calrissian|Lando Calrissian]] is a character from the ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars]]'' films, played by [[Wikipedia:Billy Dee Williams|Billy Dee Williams]]. Some people (including, apparently, Homestar) mistakenly think that Lando and Apollo Creed were played by the same actor, but Apollo Creed was played by Carl Weathers.
*Walter Sobchak is a character from ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'', played by [[Wikipedia:John Goodman|John Goodman]]. The severed toe with nail polish is a plot device in this movie; Sobchak even says the line, "I can get you a toe, with nail polish," as does Coach Z on Pom Pom's behalf. "You're entering a world of pain" and "DONNY, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!" (said on behalf of Pom Pom by Homestar and Strong Mad respectively) were also repeated sayings of Sobchak's in the movie. Also, at one point in the movie Walter inappropriately draws a gun.
*[[wikipedia:Oliver Cromwell|Oliver Cromwell]] was a 17th century English military commander who became Lord Protector after leading the rebellion that resulted in the execution of Charles I. Homestar throws it in because it includes "-well", though it's possible he ''meant'' to say [[Wikipedia:Oliver North|Oliver North]], a prominent figure in the [[Wikipedia:Iran Contra Affair|Iran Contra Affair]].
*The surprisingly high jump The Cheat makes is the effect of getting hit by a shell, invincible character, etc., in the Nintendo 64 game ''[[Wikipedia:Mario Kart 64|Mario Kart 64]]'', in which the kart landed with a similar "POOMP". Also, the respective noises The Cheat makes sound very close to what Toad says when he wins a race ("I'm the best!") as well as Toad's cries when he has been hit.
*[[Wikipedia:The Golden Girls|The Golden Girls]] was a popular sitcom about four elderly women living in Miami that originally aired on NBC. Blanche, mentioned in the cartoon, is one of the main characters of the show. Strong Bad mentioned them in [[helium]].
*The kick performed by Homestar while singing appears to be a side thrust kick, a karate kick which involves thrusting the foot out from the side to hit with the heel.

== DVD Version ==
*The "CHOICE TIME!" sound effect plays after you choose your choice.
*The Homsar Easter egg is enabled automatically.
*Homestar doesn't say or show the stuff he gathered, or drop them in the cauldron, and Marzipan doesn't say the magic words.
*Homestar's transformation is now random.
*All of the ending Easter eggs play automatically.

==External Links==
*[[HR:ween05.html|Watch "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"]]
*[[HR:halloween2005mx.swf|View the Flash file for "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"]]
*[http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/ween05_old.swf View the Flash file of an older version of "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"] (mirror)
*[[Forum:5769|Forum thread re: "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"]]

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Halloween Potion-ma-jig

Sompm — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:19:55 GMT

Sompm: moved "you're entering a world of pain" to after the producing of the guna nd the latter of the actions after homestar's first line.

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[[Image:ween05.png|thumb|Choose It or Lose It!]]
Homestar screws up Marzipan's potion. Choose-your-own-venture action ensues!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Hornblower}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Goblin}}, [[Tofu Homestar]]

See '''[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[Homestar Runner's House]], [[Spooky Woods]], [[Cliffs#Creepy Cliff|Creepy Cliff]]

'''Page Title:''' Choose it or Lose it!

'''Date:''' Tuesday, November 1, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 6:00 (Site Approximation)

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

==Transcript==
''{Spooky sounds play against a darkened wall. Homestar Runner's shadow appears from the left, and Homestar himself then appears suddenly.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wah! You scared me! So, here's the deal: I'm lost inside this haunted mansion, and I need your help to find my costume and get outta here! So, what should we do first?

''{The screen displays: 'WHAT SHOULD WE DO?? 1. PET A GOAT 2. MAKE A STEW 3. "I'M SELLING THESE FINE LEATHER JACKETS..."' A "COSTUME LOCATOR" is in the lower left and a "HEALTH & BEAUTY" indicator, showing 100%, is in the lower right. Then, after a moment, the lights suddenly come on and the camera pans back, revealing the interior of Homestar's house, including pictures of Homestar's past costumes framed on the wall. Marzipan walks up with a wig and a pile of clothes. A sheet of paper can be seen in front of Homestar, with doodles all over it and several markers scattered around it.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' What up, Homestar? Here's your costume!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{taking the costume}'' Oh, thanks. You win!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{noticing the paper and markers}'' Homestar Michael Runner, what did you do—

''{A closeup of the paper is shown. It reads:}''

<div style="text-align:center; padding:8px; border: 1pt solid #000; width:300px">Halloween Potion 1. *****-Water 2. Powdered ********* 3. Essence of ********* Stir ingredients with a *********** Say this magic incantation: *****************************</div>

''{Drawings of bugs and [[ducks]] obscure all of the important parts, asterisked. Also, Homestar has written [[:Image:Mean sean.PNG|"MEAN SEAN"]], "QUACK TIME", and "COOL DUCK" on various parts of the paper.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' —to my Halloween Potion recipe?

''{Homestar and Marzipan appear again.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, yeah. ''{turns away from Marzipan}'' Marzipaaan! Can I draw ducks and bugs all over the recipe for your Halloween Potion?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No way, Jorge. You're gonna figure out what those ingredients were and bring 'em back here before midnight. Now march your skinny white butt into those spooky woods, mister!

''{Music starts.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{humbly}'' Yes, Mom-zipan.

''{The screen displays "HALLOWEEN POTION-MA-JIG" and "A MAKE-YOUR-OWN-DECISION-VENTURE", followed by the usual credits (with the notable addition of "[[Jonathan Howe|Jonathan]] programs"), over the drawings of bugs and ducks. Then, cut to the spooky woods, where Homestar is now in costume.}''

===The Water===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right! These spooky woods gotta be chock full of spooky ingredients. Let's see, the first one is ''{pulls out the paper}'' "Something Water." Hmmmmmmmm...

'''COACH Z:''' ''{from a distance}'' Really?

''{cut to Coach Z and Pom Pom}''

'''COACH Z:''' Then how come they'll be all nice to ya and act like they like ya to your face?

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''COACH Z:''' Guess I have a lot to learn about mailmen.

''{Homestar walks up}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, what are you guys doin' out here? Did you ruin somebody's magic potion too?

'''COACH Z:''' Uh... nope. Unless Coach Z's life is a magic potion.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool, cool, depressing, cool. So, um...

''{A box shows up reading "CHOICE TIME!!!" and the three choices:}''

==== 1. Do either of you have any... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do either of you have any cash on you? ''{imitating a shady drifter}'' I'm trying to get a me a sandwich or somethin'. Uh, my car broke down and I'm out of gas.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, sorry, man. All I gots is this bottle of, uh, ghost water?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's perfect! I was planning on blowin' that money on ghost water anyways.

''{A "scorecard" comes up with spaces for all the items you get. The first blank is filled with "Ghost Water". A victory sound plays.}''

==== 2. I need something that would be... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I need something that would be good in a Halloween Potion.

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles and pulls a severed toe out of his pocket}''

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom can getcha a toe. With nail polish!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um... do you have anything waterier? Or... more waterish? Or waterian?

'''COACH Z:''' Please, Homestar, stop! Just take this bottle of questionable water that I keep on my person at all times for questionable reasons!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I won't question that!

''{A "scorecard" comes up with spaces for all the items you get. The first blank is filled with "Questionable Water". A victory sound plays.}''

==== 3. Taco-Man came by... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Taco-Man came by. He gave me some water, he gave me some water. What are you guys gonna do for me?

'''COACH Z:''' Pom Pom, give the man some stank water. I will not be upstaged by Taco-Man two years in a row!

''{A "scorecard" comes up with spaces for all the items you get. The first blank is filled with "Stank Water". A victory sound plays.}''

=== The Powder ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I gotta keep searchin'. ''{starts to walk offscreen to the right}'' Too bad I probably won't run into anybody else mysteriously hanging out in the woods.

''{Cut to The King of Town and The Poopsmith. The King of Town is holding a bucket of fried chicken. Holes are dug all over the place. Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! Whaddaya know! How ya diggin'?

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oh! We're certainly not trying to unearth the ham sandwich that I buried here when I was nine.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Good. 'Cause I found that thing like two months ago. It wasn't that good. Too much mayo.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Too much mayo?! I ''love'' too much mayo!

''{The choice dialogue comes up again.}''

==== 1. Hey! I've got it... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, I've got it! I'll give you a detailed account of the consumption of your ham sammie if you give me a powdered item for this Potion-ma-jig!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Sweet deal! Take some of this powdered Thanksgiving! Now let's hear it!

''{The screen starts to fade out.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, so first I washed all the dirt off with some Windex. That made it blue and soggy...

''{It fades back in. The King of Town has his head lowered in emotion. His chicken bucket is empty.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...and that last bite nearly made me puke it right back on my plate!

''{Homestar walks off and takes the powder as he goes.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oh, I wish you had. I surely wish you had!

''{The scorecard returns. The second blank is filled with "Powdered Thanksgiving".}''

==== 2. I say, is that a powdered... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I say, is that a powdered wig you're wearing, your Kentucky Fried-ness? 'Cause I'm in the market for some powdery dealings!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{pulls out a pouch}'' Well, I've got my secret blend of eleven herbs and spices. But, of course, you can't have that.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, that's too bad. I guess I'll just go on home and— ''{starts popping in and out of the holes, snatching the powder while he hops around}'' Pyong-pyong-pyong-pyong-pyong! ''{appears from one of the holes, holding the powder}'' So long, suckers!

''{Homestar drops back into the hole.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ha! That blend was just a decoy! It only has ''ten'' herbs and spices!

''{The scorecard appears with "Powdered Herbs & Spices".}''

==== 3. Poopsmith, do I dare ask... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Poopsmith, do I dare ask what powdered delights you've unearthed?

''{The Poopsmith digs in the dirt and a pouch pops out, which Homestar catches.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, ground ground. Thanks thanks, guys guys.

''{The scorecard appears with "Powdered Ground Ground"}''

===Homsar===
''{This scene only happens if you click on the upper half of The Poopsmith as Homestar walks away (an Easter egg). Homsar is floating on a balloon, as per his costume (Tingle from [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|The Legend of Zelda Series]].) Homestar walks up, and looks at him, annoyed.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, great, the secret guy.

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaA—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just gimme my choices!

''{Homsar throws confetti, and the bottom of the screen reads:}''

<blockquote>
HOISIN SAUCE! 
2TH: HORSE IT ON IN THERE! 
THAT'S A LOT! A LOT! A LOT! A LOT! 
> What wouldst thou deau?</blockquote>

''{With The Hornblower's head and some circus peanuts over it. The text is crooked and in multiple fonts.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What I'm supposed to do with ''that'' mess? I'm outta here!

''{The "ding" sound effect plays backwards as the box of text vanishes. Homestar walks away.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Location, location, location!

=== The Essence ===
''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are standing around a cliff, with broken TVs littering the area. Strong Bad's face is obscured by the cabinet doors on his costume. Strong Mad grunts and tosses a broken TV. Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa. This is a cool new background!

''{The TV Strong Mad tossed falls in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{opening his costume's doors}'' Yeah! We were just burying our problems here in the spooky woods when we found this creepy cliff! It's perfect for the chucking off of busted old TVs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Essence of busted old TVs? 'Cuz I got a serious jones!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, I think these TVs lost their essence in the seventies. What are you doing here, anyways?

''{The choice box returns:}''

==== 1. I've always felt that... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've always felt that essence of rose petals is my very most favorite essence.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I agree, The Cheat. Essence of doo doo meringue has always been my favorite. In fact... there's a whole bunch of it down at the bottom of this cliff you can have.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumping off the cliff}'' Cannonball!

''{The scorecard appears with "Essence of Doo doo meringue"}''

==== 2. I'm trying to ruin Marzipan's... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm trying to ruin Marzipan's Halloween Potion. Got any leads?

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's a worthy cause if ever there was one! How about this essence of putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water while he's asleep?

'''STRONG MAD:''' MY SECRET SHAME!

''{The Cheat tosses a bottle off the cliff. Homestar jumps after it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks a lot you guuuuuuuuuys!

''{The scorecard returns with "Essence of Putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water while he's asleep".}''

==== 3. I'm in the mood for a... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm in the mood for a Hovan roll!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, me too. Let's have a race to the food court. Here's the starting line. Ready, go!

''{The Cheat draws a line in dirt next to the cliff's edge.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{running over cliff}'' Eat my duuuuuuuust!

''{The scorecard returns with "Essence of Gullibility".}''

===The stirring utensil===
''{Cut back to Strong Bad's posse}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Meka-leka-hi-meka-The Cheat throw a TV on 'im...

''{The Cheat drops a TV over the cliff.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...ho.

''{The doors on Strong Bad's costume close once more. Cut to Bubs, standing by a canister labeled "BUBS' MO'BILE CAN o' STIRRING UTENSILS". ("Bile" is in green.) Homestar bounces once on the ground and then lands on his feet next to Bubs. The TV crashes behind Homestar at the same spot where he had bounced off, narrowly missing him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Bubs! Fancy runnin' into you in the middle of the spooky woods sellin' stirring utensils.

'''BUBS:''' It's a niche market.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So, what kind of concoctions might one stir with your wares?

'''BUBS:''' Well, a little eye of newt, some toe of frog. Baby, you got a witches' brew goin'.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, that's my line! So, how do I score one of those jobbies?

'''BUBS:''' Oh, they're free. But you gotta ''earn'' 'em!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, that doesn't sound free at all.

'''BUBS:''' Well you just gotta ''earn'' 'em.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' How should I do that?

''{The choice box returns:}''

==== 1. Do a dance ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dances}'' A little to the left, come on, come on, back to the right, shake it around. ''{he repeats it over Bubs's next line}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh, yeah! Stick and move, stick and move! You're pretty good, shorty. ''{pulls a red spoon from his canister}'' That's worth at least a ''Jurassic Park III'' collector's spoon.

''{The scorecard returns with "Stirring utensil: JP3 Collector Spoon".}''

==== 2. Sing a song ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, here goes. Two and three and four. ''{singing terribly while off-key music plays in the background, and Bubs covers his ears, agitated}'' Backyard peaches! Treats come true! Karate Summer, what wouldja do? The world is the egg, and diapers come true...

'''BUBS:''' Oh! Heard enough of that one! You... you get a chewed-up pen.

''{The scorecard returns with "Stirring utensil: Chewed Up Pen".}''

==== 3. Reagan impression ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{leaning over, in a low voice}'' Well... well... Nancy and I... economics... well... rap music... jellybeans... well... we... probably had a... pet...

'''BUBS:''' That's the worst Ronald Reagan impression I've ever heard!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{standing upright}'' ''Ronald'' Reagan?! I was doing my Keanu Reagan!

'''BUBS:''' Just take this terlet brush and get outta here!

''{The scorecard returns with "Stirring utensil: Terlet Brush".}''

===The magic words===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{walking off}'' Thanks, Great American Bubs!

''{Cut to a closeup of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now to find Strong Sad. Anything that guy says will make ''great'' magic words!

''{Cut to Strong Sad, half-buried and asleep. Homestar walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Sad. Nice fire hydrant costume!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh. Mineral water... ''{wakes up and looks at Homestar}'' What?

''{The choice box returns:}''

==== 1. I just graduated... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I just graduated. What should my epitaph say?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Homestar, do you even have half a brain?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hot biscuits! Those are the best magic words I've ever heards!

''{The scorecard appears with "Magic Words: Do you even have half a brain".}''

==== 2. If you were at a party... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If you were at a party, what would you rap?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Each day, we die a little more, yo! Betta ax somebod-ay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Fresh beats! My favorite!

''{The scorecard appears with "Magic Words: Better Ax Somebod-ay".}''

==== 3. Taco-Man came by... ====
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Taco-Man came by. We played a little foosball, played a little foosball. So, what are some of your favorite words?

'''STRONG SAD:''' In no particular order: Loquentia... Imbruglia... Precipitous... Saralee...cheesecake... Denouement...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Those are great!

''{The scorecard appears with "Magic Words: Loquentia, Imbruglia, Precitpitous, Saraleecheesecake, Denouement".}''

=== The potion ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks for the words, half-man! ''{walks off}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Go forward! Move ahead. Try to detect it! It's not too late.

''{Cut to Homestar's house, where Homestar and Marzipan are standing near a bubbling cauldron.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, so here's what I came up with: a bottle of ''{"Ghost," "Questionable," or "Stank"}'' water, ''{he throws the bottle into the cauldron}'' ''{"A secret blend of eleven Herbs and Spices," "Some Ground Ground," or "Some Powdered Thanksgiving"; it's thrown into the cauldron too}'', and essence of ''{"Doo Doo Meringue", "Putting Strong Mad's Hand in Warm Water while He's Asleep", or "Gullibility, whatever that is"; again, he throws it into the cauldron}''. ''{Pulls out the stirring utensil}'' And give a little stir with this ''{"Jurassic Park III Collector's Spoon", "Chewed Up Pen", or "Terlet Brush"}''. And say these magic words. ''{He hands an index card to Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{"Do you even have half a brain", "Better Ax Somebod-ay", or "Loquentia, Imbruglia, Precipitous, Saraleecheesecakia, Denouement"}''

''{The cauldron makes a "poof" sound and smoke emerges, and Marzipan dips a cup into it.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Here, Homestar. ''{hands the cup to Homestar and smiles}'' Have some Melonade!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Don't mind if I do! ''{He drinks the contents of the cup.}''

''{See the fun facts section to see how the endings scenes are chosen. These are the different effects on Homestar:}''

====End 1: Tofu Homestar====
''{After drinking the potion, Homestar turns into the Tofu version of himself as seen in [[The Luau]].}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yay, Homestar! You're back to your old self again!

''{The tofu head slides off into the cauldron and a flame covers Tofu Homestar, who reverts back to his regular self without his Halloween costume}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{disappointed}'' Yay, Homestar. You're back to your old self again...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing and shaking his butt}'' That costume makes your butt look big.

====End 2: Cycloptic Homestar====
''{Homestar suddenly loses his wig and sprouts one enormous eye on his face.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yelps}'' Marzipan! There's only one of you!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Don't tell me you forgot how to use your eyes again.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Are you trying to tell me that I haven't been dating twins this whole time?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Um, I don't think you're gonna have to worry about dating anyone from now on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray!

====End 3: [[French]] Homestar====
''{Homestar takes on the appearance of a suave foreigner.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, goody goody gumdrops!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{in a bad accent}'' I say, Marzipan, let us away to my romantic chateau in the Fantastic mountains!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll go pack my pashmina. ''{walks off screen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, in his regular voice}'' Oh, gettin' lucky toniiiiiiight...

====End 4: Freaky Marzipan====
''{After drinking the potion, Homestar turns into a normally-dressed Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hooray! I'm not the only girl!

''{As Freaky Marzipan speaks, her horrible teeth and wobbly mouth become visible.}''

'''FREAKY MARZIPAN:''' ''{very distorted voice}'' I think we're gonna become fast friends!

''{Marzipan shrieks and runs off; Freaky Marzipan makes a silly face.}''

====End 5: The Goblin====
''{Homestar transforms into The Goblin.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, he's so cute! Do it, do it, do it!

''{The Goblin dances as his organ chord plays.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ...annd  scene!

=== The finale ===

''{The screen fades to black. After a few seconds, one of Homestar's bug drawings appears in the center of the screen with "THE END". After a few more seconds, the screen fades back to Spooky Woods. All of the characters are standing around. "BACK" and "PLAY AGAIN (SKIP INTRO)" buttons are seen.}''

==Easter Eggs==

* Click on the upper half of The Poopsmith as Homestar is leaving to see a scene with Homsar (transcription [[#Homsar|above]]).
* At the end, click on Pom Pom:
:'''STRONG BAD:''' So, what, Pom Pom? You're every guy at a truck stop?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh oh, Strong Bad.
:''{Pom Pom produces a gun.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're entering a world of pain.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' DONNY! YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!
* At the end, click on Bubs:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Bubs, I like your Lando Calrissian outfit!
:'''BUBS:''' What are you talking about? I'm the master of disaster!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh-oh. Poopsmith, get ready...
* At the end, click on Marzipan:
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Beaker-style meeps}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, can you understand her?
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, turns to Marzipan}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Beaker-style meeps}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Quicker Beaker-style meeps}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angry The Cheat noises, turns away}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{normal}'' Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that meant something else.
* At the end, click on Strong Bad:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, Blanche from the Golden Girls? Genius!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not Blanche from the Golden Girls.
:'''BUBS:''' No, no, he's Phyllis Diller!
:'''COACH Z:''' I thought you were supposed to be my hot mom!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'm Jambi the genie! You know, "Wish? Did somebody say wish?"
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I wish you'd dress up as something I could recognize! Pop culture... mumble grumble...
* At the end, click on Homestar:
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad! ''{adopts "shady drifter" impression}'' Let me get a few dollars. I'm trying to catch a train. My wife, she's pregnant. And I have thirteen kids. I'm on hard times.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, at least your shady drifter impression is better than your Ronald Reagan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! I can hit you with some more of that too! ''{adopts Ronald Reagan impression}'' Well... well... Oliver Cromwell...
* At the end, click on Coach Z:
:'''STRONG BAD:''' So Coach, how come you weren't a rapper this year? [[Image:Ween 2005 The Cheat Poomp.PNG|thumb|130px|Poomp!]]
:'''COACH Z:''' But I am! Theo Huxtable is one of the greatest rappers of our time! ''{Hip-Hop Dances with his arms and head}'' Jammin' on the one! Jammin' on the one! J-J-Jammin' on the one! Jammin' on the one!
* At the end, click on The Cheat:
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, which sound very similar in phrasing to Toad's catchphrase from Mario Kart 64, "I'm the best!"''}
:''{There is a soft explosion, and The Cheat blasts into the air; he does several flips and then lands in place with a POOMP.}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, which sound very similar to Toad's "wipe out" noise from Mario Kart 64.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Putting someone's hand in warm water while they sleep is a common prank believed to make the victim involuntarily urinate.
*[http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?Loquentia Loquentia] is a Latin word whose root means to speak or to utter.
*[[Wikipedia:pashmina|Pashmina]] is the fleece of feral Himalayan goats that is used to make shawls that are referred to by the same name. It is similar to cashmere and was quite popular in the mid 1990s.
*To be [[Wikipedia:Precipitous|precipitous]] is to bring about especially abruptly, or to be very steep.
*[[Wikipedia:Denouement|Denouement]] is the resolution part of a story which comes after its climax.

===Trivia===
*The ducks and bugs Homestar drew on the potion are:
<gallery>
Image:Duck1.PNG|<center>'''Cool Duck'''</center>
Image:Duck2.PNG
Image:Duck3.PNG|<center>'''Quack Time'''</center>
Image:Duck4.PNG
Image:Duck5.PNG
</gallery>
<gallery>
Image:Bug1.PNG
Image:Bug2.PNG|<center>'''Mean Sean'''</center>
Image:Bug3.PNG
Image:Bug4.PNG
Image:Bug5.PNG
</gallery>
*The original potion read:
<div style="text-align:center; padding:8px; border: 1pt solid #000; width:300px">Halloween Potion 1. Ghost-Water 2. Powdered Pigs' Feet 3. Essence of Nightroot Stir ingredients with a wooden spoon Say this magic incantation: 
"Sip it down and swish it 'round"</div>
*This toon was released at about 1:30 a.m. on November 1, Atlanta time. All day the previous day, the [[Main Page Messages|button on the main page]] read, ''"workin' as fast as we can!"''. When the toon was finally released, the button read: ''"it's still halloween!"'' (when you moved your mouse over it, it switched to: ''"in certain timezones!"''). Later in the day, the button was changed to simply read: ''"halloween toon!"''
*The shirt Coach Z is wearing is from ''[[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]'''s first-season episode "[http://www.tv.com/the-cosby-show/a-shirt-story/episode/6802/summary.html A Shirt Story]," in which Denise tries to hand-make Theo a designer shirt and butchers it in the process. The fictitious brand of shirt was called a "Gordon Gartrelle," and the original cost Theo $95. The "Jammin' on the one" line is a reference to the episode "[http://www.tv.com/a-touch-of-wonder/episode/6836/summary.html|A Touch Of Wonder]," in which guest star [[Wikipedia:Stevie Wonder|Stevie Wonder]] sampled the voices of the Huxtable family and made them into a song.
* There are five endings to this toon. Which ending is seen is determined by adding together all the numbers of the choices made, dividing by five, taking the remainder (numbered zero to four), and adding one. Thus, if you choose 2, 1, 3, 3, and 2, you would get 2 + 1 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 11 / 5 = 2, remainder 1. Add 1 to that, and you get ending 2. (See the talk page for the source code.)
*If the remainder is:
:*0, then you see ending 1: Tofu Homestar. There are 53 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 5, 10, or 15 this ending is displayed.
:*1, then you see ending 2: Cyclops Homestar. There are 50 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 6 or 11 this ending is displayed.
:*2, then you see ending 3: French Homestar. There are 45 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 7 or 12 this ending is displayed.
:*3, then you see ending 4: Freaky Marzipan. There are 45 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 8 or 13 this ending is displayed.
:*4, then you see ending 5: The Goblin. There are 50 combinations that yield this result.
::When the sum of the choices are 9 or 14 this ending is displayed.
*The total number of possible sequences of potion ingredients is 35, or 243.
*According to the [[Quote of the Week#2005-11-03|Quote of the Week]] on November 3, Bubs originally gave out an ''[[IMDb:tt0114781|Under Siege 2]]'' collector's spoon instead of the ''Jurassic Park III'' collector's spoon.
* The Flash file appears to have been updated 12 hours after the toon was originally released. The update expanded the Tofu Homestar scene, which originally ended immediately after Marzipan's line "You're back to your old self again!", before Tofu Homestar's head fell into the cauldron, but with the animation suggesting it was about to do so. The change was likely made to remove any suggestion that Homestar had "died" by being transformed into an inanimate object. The update also added an extra "THE END" scene and an Easter Egg (The Cheat). It is possible that these elements were originally planned for the original release but left out due to time constraints (see Trivia).
*This is the most recent toon to include opening credits.

===Remarks===
* The pictures above Homestar's cabinet are changed for the holiday. They ordinarily show his changing appearance over the years. This time, they depict all his past [[Halloween costumes]] from 2000 to the present.
* This is the first time Homestar is mentioned as having a middle name ("Michael") in a toon. (In the DVD commentary for [[time capsule]], however, Marzipan offhandedly remarked that Hal was his middle name.)
* All of the spooky trees in the background are the same shape, just in different sizes and orientations. Also, the first two backgrounds for Pom Pom, Coach Z, the Poopsmith, and the King of Town are identical.
* Besides stealing Homestar's [[Witches' Brew]] "line," as Homestar points out, Bubs also appropriates the "terlet" pronunciation of "toilet" that Coach Z has used in [[Halloween Fairstival]] and [[A Folky Tale]]. This spelling shows up on the scorecard as well, but Homestar still pronounces it as "toilet" when he hands it over to Marzipan. (Homestar's speech impediment causes a mispronunciation of the mispronunciation, making it correct again.)
* Homestar's costume includes a pair of shoes. When Marzipan gives him his costume, however, the shoes do not appear to be included.
* Strong Bad comments on Homestar's Reagan impression even if you use one of the other choices.
** Also, when Strong Bad comments on his Reagan impression, Homestar agrees that he was impersonating Ronald Reagan and not Keanu Reagan.
* When not wearing a costume, Bubs has no thumbs. Mysteriously, though, the thumbs on his white boxing gloves seem to move like he does.
* When Strong Bad said "burying our troubles", he was probably referring to half-buried Strong Sad.
* While in costume, Marzipan's mouth seems to be in [[Marzipan Evolution|an earlier version]], both in the actual cartoon and at the end with the whole ensemble.

===Goofs===
*[[Wikipedia:Gossamer_(Looney_Tunes)|Gossamer]] actually has a redder tint than the the bright orange color of Strong Mad's costume.
*When Strong Bad's cabinet doors are open, they appear to be symmetrical; they shouldn't be able to fit together when closed.
*When he looks directly into the camera, Strong Bad's left eye seems to jut a little into the V-shape on his mask.
*Homestar's [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars|Converse All-Star Hi-Tops]] have stars on both sides of each shoe, when they should have stars [http://www.martyshoes.com/store/media/con-s049622-9160men500.jpg only on the inner side].
*When The Cheat pushes the television off of the edge of the cliff, the dent on the top is towards the right. When it lands, however, the dent has switched sides.
*If you choose "I'm in the mood for a..." when getting the Essence, the line disappears when it cuts back to the cliff.

===Glitches===
*You can see a "hiccup" in the animation of the pot's bubbling when the cartoon switches to one of the variables in the combination you made.
*Unlike the other characters, Homsar shows scroll-over information during the finale Easter eggs even while the rest of the characters comment on their costumes. This is because he is a movie clip that overlays the scene.
*When you click on The Cheat at the end, Strong Bad's head changes size and his mouth closes a bit, and everybody moves slightly.
*When clicking on most of the characters that activate Easter Eggs at the end, Marzipan's mouth changes expression unexpectedly.
*When Marzipan's angry expression is used, blinking causes her outline to be intruded.


===Inside References===
* Pom Pom is wearing the same [[Cool Shades|shades]] that [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] usually sports.
* The King's bucket of "KnF'nC" chicken is from [[monster truck]].
* The circus peanuts that appear in the Homsar Easter egg were also used when Homestar comes to the door in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
* This toon is also done in the style of a decision-making game, just like [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
* "What wouldst thou deau?" is a reference to [[video games]] and [[Thy Dungeonman]].
* The broken TV sets look exactly the same as the TV from Pile of Electronics State after The Cheat smashed it in [[mascot]].
* Bubs's collection of stirring utensils includes the [[Orange Bowl and Spoon#Orange Spoon|orange Tupperware spoon]].
* Strong Sad's line, "Each day we die a little more," and Marzipan's line, "I'm not [[the only girl]]," are references to their respective lines from the [[Who Said What Now?]].
* Cyclops Homestar's eye resembles the fake eye he wore in [[Malloween Commercial]].
* Tofu Homestar first appeared in [[The Luau]].
* French Homestar singing "Getting lucky tonight" is a reference to [[Cool Things]], where Strong Sad sings the same phrase.
* The gun Pom Pom draws at the end is from [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
* When Strong Bad mentions that Coach Z didn't dress as a rapper this year (despite the Coach's comment about Theo Huxtable), he is referring to all of Coach Z's previous [[Coach Z#Halloween Costumes|costumes]].
* The exchange between several of the characters about Strong Bad's costume refers to previous [[Strong Bad#Halloween Costumes|Halloween Toons]] in which he had to [[What are you supposed to be?|explain his costume]] to the rest of the cast.
* Marzipan's Halloween potion is another example of a [[concoction]].

===Real-World References===

*The phrase "I'm selling these fine leather jackets" is a reference to multiple PC games created by [[Wikipedia:LucasArts|LucasArts]] which featured the line as a running gag. The line originated in ''[[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure|Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade]]'' and was repeated in ''[[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis|Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis]]'', the ''[[Wikipedia:Monkey Island|Monkey Island]]'' series, ''[[Wikipedia:Sam and Max|Sam and Max]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Full Throttle|Full Throttle]]''.
*Marzipan's line, "No way, Jorge." is a permutation of the more common "No way, José."; possibly a play on the spanish pronunciation of the name "George", even though "José" translates to "Joseph".
*The Cutters (on Homestar's T-shirt) is the name of the town group that was featured in the 1979 movie ''[[Wikipedia:Breaking Away|Breaking Away]]'', a movie about a group of bicyclists at [[Wikipedia:Indiana University Bloomington|Indiana University]] that race in the annual "[[Wikipedia:Little 500|Little 500]]" every spring. Homestar's character, Moocher, was a member of the group.
*"Taco-Man" is the signature character of the website [http://www.ebolaworld.com Ebolaworld], which has used Homestar in cameos on more than one occasion. Perhaps the Brothers Chaps have decided to repay the favor. (As a side note, the Halloween special that Ebolaworld had planned for the same year was also a choose-your-own adventure cartoon.)
*The secret blend of eleven herbs and spices is a reference to [[wikipedia:KFC|KFC's]] claim that [[Wikipedia:Colonel Sanders|Colonel Sanders']] recipe had eleven secret herbs and spices, although it curiously does not claim that this is the recipe in current use.
*[[Wikipedia:Windex|Windex]] is a trademark for a liquid glass and surface cleaning product made by [[Wikipedia:S. C. Johnson & Son|S. C. Johnson & Son]].
*Homsar throwing the confetti is a reference to his costume ([[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]]), who also throws confetti when he says the magic words ("Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-limpah!").
*[[Wikipedia:Hoisin Sauce|Hoisin sauce]], a fermented soy bean paste, is used as a condiment and also as a glaze for roasted meats, most commonly with [[Wikipedia:Peking Duck|Peking Duck]]. It is often referred to as "Chinese barbecue sauce."
*"THAT'S A LOT! A LOT! A LOT! A LOT!" is a reference to the bank teller in ''[[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'' for the [[Nintendo#Nintendo 64|Nintendo 64]], who said it if you deposited more than fifty rupees all at once. This was the first game that Tingle appeared in, so it's quite appropriate.
*Homsar's line ("location, location, location") refers to the three most important things in [[Wikipedia:real estate|real estate]]. His costume character, Tingle, serves to help Link navigate by selling him maps in ''The Legend of Zelda'' series.
*Rose petal essence was an ingredient for the spell to turn into an eagle or fly in ''[[Wikipedia:King's Quest III|King's Quest III]]''. Especially given this allusion, the whole premise of the cartoon is likely based on the formulaic combination of ingredients, stirring, and magic words required to perform the [http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/the_fairway/game_pages/kings_quest_3.html spells] in King's Quest III.
*[http://www.hovan.com Hovan] is a restaurant chain in Florida and Georgia, located in mall food courts, that sell [[Wikipedia:Gyro|gyro-style]] wraps.
*Strong Bad mixes up the quote of his costume character, Jambi the Genie (from ''[[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-Wee's Playhouse]]''). The original quote is "Meka Leka Hi, Meka Hiney Ho!"
*Bubs's recommendation of "eye of newt" and "toe of frog" originated as magical ingredients in [http://www.bartleby.com/70/4141.html Act IV, Scene 1, line 16] of Shakespeare's ''[[Wikipedia:Macbeth|Macbeth]]'', one of the most famous and influential depictions of witches in Western culture.
*Bubs's quote "Baby, you've got a [[witches' brew]] goin'" is a reference to the television show ''[[Wikipedia:Arrested Development (TV series)|Arrested Development]]'', where [[Wikipedia:Carl Weathers|Carl Weathers]], the actor who played [[Wikipedia:Apollo Creed|Apollo Creed]], portrays himself as extremely cheap, and sometimes comments that if certain leftover foods are combined, "Baby, you've got a stew goin'."
* Bubs's comment about "Stick and move! Stick and move!" is a reference to the advice Duke gave Apollo Creed in [[IMDb:0075148|the original Rocky movie]]. [http://www.filmsite.org/rock5.html]
*''[[wikipedia:Jurassic Park III|Jurassic Park III]]'' is a movie in the ''[[wikipedia:Jurassic Park|Jurassic Park]]'' series.
*[[wikipedia:Ronald Reagan|Ronald Reagan]] was a movie actor and the 40th president of the United States. "Nancy" refers to his widow, [[wikipedia:Nancy Reagan|Nancy Reagan]]. [[Wikipedia:Jelly beans|Jelly beans]] were famously one of Reagan's favorite foods. Reagan was also known for usually starting his statements with the word "well." He was famous for his economic policies, called "[[Wikipedia:Reaganomics|Reaganomics]]." He also did have [[Wikipedia:List_of_presidential_pets|pets]], among them a [[Wikipedia:Cavalier_king_charles_spaniel|Cavalier King Charles Spaniel]] named [[Wikipedia:Rex (dog)|Rex]].
*"Keanu Reagan" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Keanu Reeves|Keanu Reeves]], an actor most famous for his roles in ''Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure'', and the ''Matrix'' trilogy.
*Homestar's line "I just graduated. What should my epitaph say?" is a reference to the theme of many high school graduation speakers of "What will your epitaph say?"
*[[Wikipedia:Natalie Imbruglia|Natalie Imbruglia]] is an Australian-born singer and actress. However, Strong Sad and Marzipan both mispronounce her last name (the "g" is silent).
*"[[Wikipedia:Sara Lee|Sara Lee]]" is an American consumer-goods company and is also the brand name of a number of frozen and packaged foods, including cheesecake.
*Strong Sad's words as Homestar departs are taken from [[Wikipedia:Devo|Devo]]'s 1980 hit "Whip It."
*[[Wikipedia:Lando Calrissian|Lando Calrissian]] is a character from the ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars]]'' films, played by [[Wikipedia:Billy Dee Williams|Billy Dee Williams]]. Some people (including, apparently, Homestar) mistakenly think that Lando and Apollo Creed were played by the same actor, but Apollo Creed was played by Carl Weathers.
*Walter Sobchak is a character from ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'', played by [[Wikipedia:John Goodman|John Goodman]]. The severed toe with nail polish is a plot device in this movie; Sobchak even says the line, "I can get you a toe, with nail polish," as does Coach Z on Pom Pom's behalf. "You're entering a world of pain" and "DONNY, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!" (said on behalf of Pom Pom by Homestar and Strong Mad respectively) were also repeated sayings of Sobchak's in the movie. Also, at one point in the movie Walter inappropriately draws a gun.
*[[wikipedia:Oliver Cromwell|Oliver Cromwell]] was a 17th century English military commander who became Lord Protector after leading the rebellion that resulted in the execution of Charles I. Homestar throws it in because it includes "-well", though it's possible he ''meant'' to say [[Wikipedia:Oliver North|Oliver North]], a prominent figure in the [[Wikipedia:Iran Contra Affair|Iran Contra Affair]].
*The surprisingly high jump The Cheat makes is the effect of getting hit by a shell, invincible character, etc., in the Nintendo 64 game ''[[Wikipedia:Mario Kart 64|Mario Kart 64]]'', in which the kart landed with a similar "POOMP". Also, the respective noises The Cheat makes sound very close to what Toad says when he wins a race ("I'm the best!") as well as Toad's cries when he has been hit.
*[[Wikipedia:The Golden Girls|The Golden Girls]] was a popular sitcom about four elderly women living in Miami that originally aired on NBC. Blanche, mentioned in the cartoon, is one of the main characters of the show. Strong Bad mentioned them in [[helium]].
*The kick performed by Homestar while singing appears to be a side thrust kick, a karate kick which involves thrusting the foot out from the side to hit with the heel.

== DVD Version ==
*The "CHOICE TIME!" sound effect plays after you choose your choice.
*The Homsar Easter egg is enabled automatically.
*Homestar doesn't say or show the stuff he gathered, or drop them in the cauldron, and Marzipan doesn't say the magic words.
*Homestar's transformation is now random.
*All of the ending Easter eggs play automatically.

==External Links==
*[[HR:ween05.html|Watch "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"]]
*[[HR:halloween2005mx.swf|View the Flash file for "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"]]
*[http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/ween05_old.swf View the Flash file of an older version of "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"] (mirror)
*[[Forum:5769|Forum thread re: "Halloween Potion-ma-jig"]]

{{halloweennav}}

{{subtitlesLinks|ween05}}

[[Category:Halloween]]
[[Category:Toons with Dialogue Alternatives]]

Sbemail 100 Fakeout

Sompm — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:57:32 GMT

Sompm: added link to wind sound effect

<table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr><td>'''Toon Category: Uncategorized'''</td><td align=right>
{{watch|sbemail100.html}}
</td></tr></table>
[[Image:sbemail100.png|thumb|"When are you gonna do one already?"]]

Strong Bad confronts the user with his/her snooping around the site. Homestar Runner adds to the hilarity.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' March 16, 2004

'''Running time:''' 0:30

'''Page Title:''' Not the 100th Email!!!

== Explanation ==

The two weeks following [[different town]] were filled with much angst, as faithful [[Strong Bad Email]] fans woke up on those Monday mornings without a new Email. After being teased by [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Puppet Time]], many people were getting impatient waiting for [[flashback|the 100th Strong Bad Email]]. Several of these people went so far as to check the expected URL for the Email directly, in hopes that they could see the Email as soon as possible. The only way this could be done was to type "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail100.html" into their address bar, since this address would follow the format used for the previous ninety-nine Emails. These users kept getting the usual [[404'd]] page, until about 2:20 a.m. (EST) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004, which was when they were greeted by '''Not the 100th Email!!!'''.

== Transcript ==

''{Scene opens to typical Internet Explorer 6 error message. The [[wind sound effect|sound of the wind blowing]] can be heard.}''

''{Strong Bad walks on to the screen from the left to confront the viewer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I suppose you think you're ''{sways his hips}'' pretty clever, huh? Thought you would find something you weren't supposed to see yet? Well, it's not—

''{Homestar walks on from the right, interrupting Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, is this where the hundredth email is?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. Get outta here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' When are you going to do one already?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, just keep your pants on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pants? Hmm...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, chew on that one for a while... ''{mumbles as he walks off}'' Teach you to poke around in my HTML...

''{A handwritten sticky note, which is supposed to be a system alert message, is slapped onto the screen, that reads:}''

<pre>
This is real.
System report:
Keep your pants on.
For real.
[ ok ]
</pre>

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is probably the only secret page on the site that is supposed to be found, but was never purposefully linked to at any time. However, for a short while, the links to Strong Bad E-mails on [[Broken Compy Menu]] were one lower than they should've been, so clicking on [[car]] brought you to Not the 100th Email.

===Remarks===
*Since the file for this animation is named sbemail100.html, the [[flashback|actual hundredth email's]] file name is sbemailahundred.html.

*If you use a Flash player that is able to show the number of frames in a file, you'll find that the total number of frames in this file is exactly ''four hundred four'' ([[Wikipedia:HTTP 404|404]]). (29 frames have been added in after the Flash file stops to bring it to this count.)
*The "This page cannot be found" page is for Internet Explorer, so other browser users might not recognize that page.

===Inside References===
*The fake system report is from [[50 emails]]. Homestar put up a nearly identical one when he caused an [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning|error]] on the [[Compy 386|Compy]].
*The wind-like [[sound effect]] at the beginning of the toon is from the sbemail [[ghosts]]. In the email, it plays shortly before and during when the little [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] appears on the [[Tandy 400]], and for a short time when it also shows up on the [[Compy 386]] screen. Both the background screen and sound effects were also used in [[The System is Down]]. and the wind sound effect is used at the beginning of [[Sbemail 150?!?]].
*This is another reference to [[Homestar Runner's Pants]].

==See Also==
*[[Sbemail 150?!?]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail100.html|watch "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]
*[[HR:100th_email.swf|view the Flash file for "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail100}}

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]][[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]

Sbemail 100 Fakeout

Sompm — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:56:43 GMT

Sompm: added link to wind sound effect

<table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr><td>'''Toon Category: Uncategorized'''</td><td align=right>
{{watch|sbemail100.html}}
</td></tr></table>
[[Image:sbemail100.png|thumb|"When are you gonna do one already?"]]

Strong Bad confronts the user with his/her snooping around the site. Homestar Runner adds to the hilarity.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' March 16, 2004

'''Running time:''' 0:30

'''Page Title:''' Not the 100th Email!!!

== Explanation ==

The two weeks following [[different town]] were filled with much angst, as faithful [[Strong Bad Email]] fans woke up on those Monday mornings without a new Email. After being teased by [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Puppet Time]], many people were getting impatient waiting for [[flashback|the 100th Strong Bad Email]]. Several of these people went so far as to check the expected URL for the Email directly, in hopes that they could see the Email as soon as possible. The only way this could be done was to type "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail100.html" into their address bar, since this address would follow the format used for the previous ninety-nine Emails. These users kept getting the usual [[404'd]] page, until about 2:20 a.m. (EST) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004, which was when they were greeted by '''Not the 100th Email!!!'''.

== Transcript ==

''{Scene opens to typical Internet Explorer 6 error message. The [[wind sound effect|sound of the wind blowing]] can be heard.}''

''{Strong Bad walks on to the screen from the left to confront the viewer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I suppose you think you're ''{sways his hips}'' pretty clever, huh? Thought you would find something you weren't supposed to see yet? Well, it's not—

''{Homestar walks on from the right, interrupting Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, is this where the hundredth email is?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. Get outta here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' When are you going to do one already?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, just keep your pants on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pants? Hmm...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, chew on that one for a while... ''{mumbles as he walks off}'' Teach you to poke around in my HTML...

''{A handwritten sticky note, which is supposed to be a system alert message, is slapped onto the screen, that reads:}''

<pre>
This is real.
System report:
Keep your pants on.
For real.
[ ok ]
</pre>

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is probably the only secret page on the site that is supposed to be found, but was never purposefully linked to at any time. However, for a short while, the links to Strong Bad E-mails on [[Broken Compy Menu]] were one lower than they should've been, so clicking on [[car]] brought you to Not the 100th Email.

===Remarks===
*Since the file for this animation is named sbemail100.html, the [[flashback|actual hundredth email's]] file name is sbemailahundred.html.

*If you use a Flash player that is able to show the number of frames in a file, you'll find that the total number of frames in this file is exactly ''four hundred four'' ([[Wikipedia:HTTP 404|404]]). (29 frames have been added in after the Flash file stops to bring it to this count.)
*The "This page cannot be found" page is for Internet Explorer, so other browser users might not recognize that page.

===Inside References===
*The fake system report is from [[50 emails]]. Homestar put up a nearly identical one when he caused an [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning|error]] on the [[Compy 386|Compy]].
*The wind-like [[sound effect]] at the beginning of the toon is from the sbemail [[ghosts]]. In the email, it plays shortly before and during when the little [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] appears on the [[Tandy 400]], and for a short time when it also shows up on the [[Compy 386]] screen. Both the background screen and sound effects were also used in [[The System is Down]].
*This is another reference to [[Homestar Runner's Pants]].

===Fast Forward===
The wind [[Sound Effects|sound effect]] is later used at the beginning of [[Sbemail 150?!?]].

==See Also==
*[[Sbemail 150?!?]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail100.html|watch "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]
*[[HR:100th_email.swf|view the Flash file for "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail100}}

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]][[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]

Sbemail 100 Fakeout

Sompm — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:54:58 GMT

Sompm: added link to wind sound effect

<table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr><td>'''Toon Category: Uncategorized'''</td><td align=right>
{{watch|sbemail100.html}}
</td></tr></table>
[[Image:sbemail100.png|thumb|"When are you gonna do one already?"]]

Strong Bad confronts the user with his/her snooping around the site. Homestar Runner adds to the hilarity.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' March 16, 2004

'''Running time:''' 0:30

'''Page Title:''' Not the 100th Email!!!

== Explanation ==

The two weeks following [[different town]] were filled with much angst, as faithful [[Strong Bad Email]] fans woke up on those Monday mornings without a new Email. After being teased by [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Puppet Time]], many people were getting impatient waiting for [[flashback|the 100th Strong Bad Email]]. Several of these people went so far as to check the expected URL for the Email directly, in hopes that they could see the Email as soon as possible. The only way this could be done was to type "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail100.html" into their address bar, since this address would follow the format used for the previous ninety-nine Emails. These users kept getting the usual [[404'd]] page, until about 2:20 a.m. (EST) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004, which was when they were greeted by '''Not the 100th Email!!!'''.

== Transcript ==

''{Scene opens to typical Internet Explorer 6 error message. The [[wind sound effect|sound of the wind blowing]] can be heard.}''

''{Strong Bad walks on to the screen from the left to confront the viewer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I suppose you think you're ''{sways his hips}'' pretty clever, huh? Thought you would find something you weren't supposed to see yet? Well, it's not—

''{Homestar walks on from the right, interrupting Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, is this where the hundredth email is?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. Get outta here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' When are you going to do one already?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, just keep your pants on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pants? Hmm...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, chew on that one for a while... ''{mumbles as he walks off}'' Teach you to poke around in my HTML...

''{A handwritten sticky note, which is supposed to be a system alert message, is slapped onto the screen, that reads:}''

<pre>
This is real.
System report:
Keep your pants on.
For real.
[ ok ]
</pre>

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is probably the only secret page on the site that is supposed to be found, but was never purposefully linked to at any time. However, for a short while, the links to Strong Bad E-mails on [[Broken Compy Menu]] were one lower than they should've been, so clicking on [[car]] brought you to Not the 100th Email.

===Remarks===
*Since the file for this animation is named sbemail100.html, the [[flashback|actual hundredth email's]] file name is sbemailahundred.html.

*If you use a Flash player that is able to show the number of frames in a file, you'll find that the total number of frames in this file is exactly ''four hundred four'' ([[Wikipedia:HTTP 404|404]]). (29 frames have been added in after the Flash file stops to bring it to this count.)
*The "This page cannot be found" page is for Internet Explorer, so other browser users might not recognize that page.

===Inside References===
*The fake system report is from [[50 emails]]. Homestar put up a nearly identical one when he caused an [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning|error]] on the [[Compy 386|Compy]].
*The wind-like [[sound effect]] at the beginning of the toon is from the sbemail [[ghosts]]. In the email, it plays shortly before and during when the little [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] appears on the [[Tandy 400]], and for a short time when it also shows up on the [[Compy 386]] screen. Both the background screen and sound effects were also used in [[The System is Down]].
*This is another reference to [[Homestar Runner's Pants]].

===Fast Forward===
The wind [[Sound Effects|sound effect]] is later used at the beginning of [[Sbemail 150?!?]].

==See Also==
*[[Sbemail 150?!?]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail100.html|watch "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]
*[[HR:100th_email.swf|view the Flash file for "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail100}}

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]][[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]

wind sound effect

Sompm — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:52:09 GMT

Sompm: made the page

The "wind" sound effect is a reccuring sound effect used in [[the system is down]], [[ghost]] and [[sbemail 150]]

(this is incomplete, but please don't delete. I will fix it up and add more later.)

what i want

Sompm — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 03:11:40 GMT

Sompm: "punch out" reference

{{sbenav|163|the chair|looking old}}
[[Image:what_I_want.PNG|thumb|"Listen to that moldy oldy in glorious drive-thru stereo."]]

Strong Bad tells us not only what he wants for [[Decemberween]], but also what he ''doesn't'' want.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Strong Sad}} (voice)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Shopping Network Studio]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, December 11, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:29

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ding-ding-dong, ding-ding-dong, ding-ding-

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>subject: decemberween</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
What do you want for Decemberween? 
your holiday spirit 
Talon Jendro 
Des Moines, IA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pauses between "Jen" and "dro", and does not say "Des Moines, Iowa".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Where'd you get that name? George Lucas? Ta'lon J'en-dr'o from the computery generated planet of Des' Moi-nes'ia. ''{clears screen}'' Anyways, everybody knows the kind of stuff I want, Ta'lon. A catapult that launches balls of cobras, chainsaw car, subscription to EGM2, hot step-sister. That email writes itself. It's more important that I establish what I ''don't'' want for Decemberween. ''{types "X-berween"}''

''{cut to "Z' ShopChan" TV shopping channel}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Our first item is a perennial all-star of bad awful Decemberween presents: the ornament.

'''MARZIPAN:''' There's no better way to say, "I have no idea what your interests are" than to give someone a present that ceases to be useful the moment it's opened.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, there's nothing like opening a gift just in time to put it in a box in the attic for a year. And next Decemberween when you get it back out, guess what? It's still just a cool snowman surfing the internet.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Internet is ''so'' hot this year.

''{A phone rings}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, we got a caller. ''{puts an empty hand next to his head}'' Go ahead, caller. How many FR114P-dc8s should I put you down for?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Strong Bad, did you put wildebeest pheromones in my laundry again?

''{wildebeest noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Auugh!

''{dial tone}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Another satisfied customer. Next up, we have one of those mechanical dancing musical nobots. The kind that you accidentally activate by getting too close.

'''DANCIN' STRONG BAD MUSICAL NOBOT:''' ''{heavily distorted voice}'' I'm like come on Fhqwhgads, I said come on Fhqwhgads, Everybody to the limit, The Cheat is to the limit...

''{The nobot's music fades out as we cut back to Strong Bad and Marzipan. Strong Bad is holding his hands over his ears.}''

'''DANCIN' STRONG BAD MUSICAL NOBOT:''' ''{continuing softly in background}'' ...Everybody come on Fhqwhgads... 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Listen to that moldy oldy in glorious drive-thru stereo. ''{A sign reading "Drive-Thru Stereo" appears over her head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who can appreciate the song when all you're really hearing ''{cut back to the nobot}'' are the plastic gears and motors clanking together in an effort to barely bust some sort of move?

''{Cut to a closeup of Marzipan. The nobot now appears in the left pane.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' These things just scream "I stopped at the drug store on my way over".

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and Marzipan. Strong Bad is staring at the nobot with swirly eyes.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Now, on to our next item. Uhh, Strong Bad?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sorry, I'm completely entrangled by those ''{cut to extreme closeup of the Nobot}'' hypnotically swaying hips. ''{cut back. Strong Bad shakes his head violently}'' Our last gift items are all about the false notion that just because you made something yourself, it's not a worthless piece of crap.

'''MARZIPAN:''' These sea-shells have office supplies hot-glued to them for absolutely no reason.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, and the more globs of hot glue I can see, the quicker I throw it in the trash.

'''MARZIPAN:''' This clothes-pin reindeer ornament is forgettably precious.

''{record scratches}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, homemade ''and'' an ornament. That thing is an anti-gift. If someone gives you one of those, you actually have to pay them because it's so poor. Uh, probably because ''they're'' so poor.

''{white noise, cut back to Strong Bad typing on his Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So Ta'lon, my young apprentice, there's my "Please Great Aunt Whoever, Don't Get Me This Stuff For Decemberween" list. I highly suggest you make your own. But if it doesn't work, don't forget to take advantage of all the temporary help that retailers hire this time of year. Those people will refund ANYTHING! Last year, I returned an omelette to a hardware store for nigh on fifty bucks. Well, happy Decemberween everybloody!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down and Strong Bad leaves.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the words "balls of cobras" as Strong Bad types them to see a board game entitled "COBRA-PULT!!"
*Click on the words "chainsaw car" as Strong Bad types them to see the blueprints to a chainsaw car.
*At the end of the email, click on the words "Don't Get Me This" to see a Dancin' [[Homestar Runner]] Musical Nobot that plays the [[Intro|intro tune]].
:'''DANCIN' HOMESTAR RUNNER MUSICAL NOBOT:''' ''{heavily distorted singing}'' Everybody! Everybody! Everybody! Everybody!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Strong Bad types "Decemberween" as "X-berween". [[Wikipedia:Xmas|X-mas]] is a common abbreviation of the word Christmas. Moreover, [[Wiktionary:decem|decem]] is Latin for ten, and "X" the corresponding [[wikipedia:Roman numerals|Roman numeral]].
*[[wikipedia:Hollandaise_sauce|Hollandaise]] is a French lemon-butter sauce.
*A [[wikipedia:pheromone|pheromone]] is a natural chemical produced by an animal that causes a specific response when detected by another animal, normally of the same species.
*This email parodies the general format of home-shopping television networks, such as [[Wikipedia:QVC|QVC]] and the appropriately-named [[Wikipedia:Home Shopping Network|Home Shopping Network]].

===Trivia===
*The Floppy Disk Container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#low blow|low blow]]".
*The following is a list of all items seen being sold by [[Z' ShopChan]]:
*;ZXJ481-78b:Commemorative [[Coach Z]] Ornament
*;WRT54G-Sc:[[Eh! Steve!]] Soiled [[Gold]] Ornament
*;FR114P-dc8:Cool Snowman Surfing the Internet Ornament
*;3DT178-2t2:[[Dancin' Musical Nobots|Dancin' Strong Bad Musical Nobot]]
*;N2cXL8-42:Seashells [[b/w]] Office Supplies
*;Kj78M-Xn45:31 Kt Clothes Pin Reindeer – "Klibber"
*The Cool Snowman's monitor reads "internet dot com."
*This is the first email that counts as a [[Decemberween]] toon.
*The calculator glued to the shell reads "04 04 04", which [[Wikipedia:Calculator spelling|upside down]] looks like "[[wikipedia:Santa_Claus#Ho.2C_ho.2C_ho|ho ho ho]]".
*This is a rare instance of Marzipan and Strong Bad coexisting peacefully, even doing something together without conflict.
*This is the first email since the [[Tandy 400]] era with a capital letter in its title. The last email with a capital in its title was [[3 Wishes]], over 130 emails ago.

===Remarks===
*The Dancin' Strong Bad Musical Nobot is said to have Drive-Thru [[wikipedia:Stereophonic sound|Stereo]] even though only one speaker was visible.
*The reindeer clothespin is marked as "31 kt". "Kt" stands for [[wikipedia:Carat (purity)|Karat]], and is used to indicate the purity of gold. Pure gold is 24kt.
*Apparently, Strong Bad got rid of [[Le Restige]] from [[the chair]], as he is apparently on [[Stooly]] in this email.
*Strong Bad said "dear Strong Bad" in his email song even before the email was on screen.
*When Strong Bad announced the numbers/letters for the snowman surfing the internet, he didn't mention any capital letters which is usually important for selling items over the phone.

===Goofs===
[[Image:What i want goof.PNG|thumb|Ooh, just barely.]]
*At the end, when Strong Bad gets off the computer, his reflection is outside of the screen for a single frame.

===Inside References===
*The Cobra-pult game is made by [[Boardelectrix]].
*The Strong Bad toy plays [[Everybody to the Limit]], and the Homestar toy plays the [[Intro]] theme.
*Strong Bad was previously hypnotized in [[cartoon]].
*The Dancin' Strong Bad Musical Nobot's part number ends in [[Tooty-two|2t2]].
*The seashell and office supply gift has [[b/w]] in its title.
*There is a [[Cakkalate]]-brand calculator glued to the second seashell.
*The Clothes Pin Reindeer has [[Googly-eyed Objects|googly eyes]].
*"Entrangled" and "Every[[blood|bloody]]" are examples of [[Portmanteaus]].
*The "Ding Ding Dong" jingle at the beginning of the email is to the tune of the intro of the Jingle Bells song played by [[Keyboard Strong Bad]] in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].
*A similar "Ding Dong, Dear Strong Bad" was used to start off the email in [[japanese cartoon]].
*Coach Z was previously shown with an afro and mustache in [[stand-up]] and [[record book]].

===Real-World References===
*This email makes several references to [[Wikipedia:George Lucas|George Lucas]] and his ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars]]'' franchise, specifically Episodes 1 through 3 (released between 1999 and 2005):
**Large portions of Episodes 1 through 3 were completely [[Wikipedia:Computer-generated imagery|computer-generated]]. This is likely why Strong Bad mentions a computer-generated planet when addressing Talon.
**When Strong Bad calls Talon "Ta'lon J'en-dr'o", he refers to the many aliens in the ''Star Wars'' universe whose names contain apostrophes and/or hyphens.
**Strong Bad calls Talon "my young apprentice", another reference to ''Star Wars'': [[Wikipedia:Palpatine|Darth Sidious]] often addresses some characters in this way, such as [[Wikipedia:Darth Vader|Darth Vader]] and later [[Wikipedia:Luke Skywalker|Luke Skywalker]].
*''[[wikipedia:EGM2|EGM²]]'' was a spin-off magazine of the video game magazine ''[[Wikipedia:Electronic Gaming Monthly|Electronic Gaming Monthly]]''. It was published until 1998 when it became ''[[Wikipedia:Expert Gamer|Expert Gamer]]''.
*Two of the part numbers, WRT54G-Sc and FR114P-dc8, refer to popular networking hardware – the [[Wikipedia:Linksys WRT54G series|Linksys WRT54G]] and the [[Wikipedia:Netgear|Netgear]] [http://www.netgear.com/Products/VPNandSSL/WiredVPNFirewallRouters/FR114P.aspx FR114P].
* This email is strongly reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Saki|Saki]]'s short story '[http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2830/2830-h/2830-h.htm Reginald on Christmas Presents]' in which Reginald, an 1890's, campy, British, aristocratic character, mocks all the terrible Christmas presents he has received from relatives.
* Strong Bad shakes his head and makes a noise reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Cheetos|Chester Cheetah]] when he tries to break out of the Nobot's hypnotic spell.
* The opening tune Strong Bad sings as he opens the email is sung to the tune of a refrain from the song "Hunting Tigers Down in India" by the [[Wikipedia:Bonzo Dog Band|Bonzo Dog Band]], a group that became more well known after members later formed the Beatles parody group the [[Wikipedia:Rutles|Rutles]]. The lyrics to the refrain originally were "Dear dear dear no, dear dear dear no, dear dear, oh, dear no."
* Strong Bad saying that he returned an omelette to a hardware store is likely a reference to an [[Snopes:business/consumer/nordstrom.asp|urban legend]] that a shopper once successfully returned a set of tires to [[Wikipedia:Nordstrom|Nordstrom]], a department store that has never sold tires.
*strong bad getting hypnotysed by the "hypnotically swaying hips" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:punch out|punch out]], in wich one of the boxer's abs move up and down rythmically as he jumps. it has been joked that these could induce some sort of hypnotic trance.

===Fast Forward===

* The Coach Z 1974 ornament was later seen in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]].
* Less than a week after the release of ''what I want'', a fan made version of the Eh! Steve! ornament was shown on the [[Weekly Fanstuff 2006|Weekly Fanstuff]]. To account for the speed at which it was created, it was coupled with the caption; "whoa, that was fast."

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Peasant's Quest Walkthrough

Sompm — Sat, 19 May 2007 16:06:35 GMT

Sompm: added the possibility of 'get horse grease'

The complete walkthrough for the game [[Peasant's Quest]].
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== Walkthrough ==
[[Image:peasantmap.png]]
:(These numbers correspond to the steps outlined in the walkthrough below.)

*'''Key:'''
**STINK Like A Peasant — ''Blue Dots''
**DRESS Like A Peasant — ''Gold Dots''
**Get ON FIRE Like A Peasant — ''Green Dots''
**Get Your Revenge On Trogdor (maybe) — ''Red Dots''

=== The Beginning ===
Before you do anything, you'll want to talk to the knight. He'll explain the whole quest to you, and give you a few tips on what you're allowed to do. He'll tell you that before you can go up the mountain to challenge Trogdor, you need to STINK like a peasant, DRESS like a peasant, and be ON FIRE like a peasant.

'''General note''': In the true style of the old Sierra games, if you find things too slow, you can bump up the speed by pushing + a few times, and slow it back down by pushing -.

=== STINK Like a Peasant ===
This quest corresponds with the blue dots on the map above.
#It's useful (though not worth any points) to get the map. This is back at your cottage, which can be reached by going W, S, W, W. Walk into your burninated cottage and type 'look cottage'. You'll discover that there's one piece of unburninated paper. Type 'get paper', 'get map' or "get unburninated paper" to have Dashing tuck it into his pocket. Dashing uses the paper to record where you've been. You can now access the map at any time simply by typing 'map'.
#Go E and walk to the shore. Type 'get pebbles' to pick up the small rocks. They'll be useful for step #3.
#Go S and S to get to the well, or just go north twice. Walk up to it and type 'turn crank'. You'll be told that the crank won't budge. 'put pebbles in bucket' in order to make the bucket descend from the weight. 'turn crank' to get the bucket back up, which should get you a monster maskus.
#Go S again, walk in front of the counter, and type 'talk man' or 'talk archer' to learn of the archery teacher's plight, and the secret word, 'haldo', you should say to his brother if you ever meet him.
#Go W, W, N to get to the horse. Stand in front of him and 'wear mask'. You can now go through the fence to the west.
#Here you'll find the archer's brother. Say 'haldo' and he'll leave. Walk up to the tree and type 'get arrow'.
#Go E, N, E, E, E to get to the house surrounded by bushes. Type 'open door' to go into the hut and type 'talk' to talk to the lady. She'll inform you that the Jhonka has taken her riches, and that she'll give you something special if you get them back for her. Remember that for later. She'll also tell you her baby lost something outside, and if you find it, it's yours. Before you leave, walk over to the shelves and type 'get chicken feed'. When you get outside, walk up to each of the berry bushes and type 'get berries'. At the fourth tree (no matter which order you do them in), you should get the super trinket.
#Go back to the archery counter by going W, N, N. Walk up to the archery counter and 'talk'. Then 'give trinket' to be able to play the archery game. Type 'play' in order to shoot. This is most likely the trickiest part of the game: you have to aim your bow according to the wind direction indicated by the flag on the right. Try to line up the tip of your arrow with the furthest right or left pixel of the blue circle in strong winds (flag moving due left or right), one pixel inside of the formost part of the blue circle during mild winds (flag diagonal), and directly at the bullseye when the air is still (flag down). To shoot, press space, and then press space again when the indicator reaches the red line. When the second indicator reaches the red line, press space a third time and you should get a bullseye. Get three bullseyes to win the SuperTime FunBow TM. You can now kill Kerrek.
#Go S, S to get to him (if he's not there, walk off and back on the screen a few times) and type 'shoot kerrek'. It will now start raining. Walk up to his body and type 'get belt'. Congratulations, you now STINK like a peasant!

=== DRESS Like a Peasant ===
This quest corresponds with the gold dots on the map above.
#To start this quest, you'll need to get the loot back for the peasant woman. To do so, walk N, N, W to the mud puddle (which is now wet since it rained) and walk into the puddle to get covered with mud.
#Go W to get to the haystack, in which you'll need to hide to avoid getting killed by the Jhonka. Type 'hide' to jump into the pile of hay.
#Waddle S in your new costume, walk up to the pile of loot, and type 'get riches'. Your costume will blow away and the Jhonka will be very unhappy and ask you if you took his riches. Simply type 'no' and you're in the clear.
#Return to collect your prize by going S, E, E, E to the hut. 'open door' gets you inside again, and then 'give riches'. Here you'll find out that the woman is a complete fraud. The riches were probably the Jhonka's to begin with, but the lady runs out leaving you alone with her baby. You can use the baby to get four items.
#Go N and 'talk man' to find out about the fishing. He needs a different kind of bait, so go ahead and 'throw chicken feed' into the lake. The man will reel in a big catch, and return to work at the inn nearby.
#Go E and 'open door' to go into the inn. 'give baby' to the innkeeper to get the pills.
#Leave the inn and go W, W to the west side of the lake. Stand at the center near the left (the game is finicky about this, but try standing at the spot where the pebbles used to be) and 'throw baby' to get the soda.
#Then go N, N to the well and 'put baby in bucket' and 'turn crank' to get the meatball sub.
#N, W, W brings you to the mysterious hut without a doorknob, which belongs to Naked Ned by the wavy tree. Walk to the right of the hut and type 'move rock'. The hole's a little too small for you to fit through, but someone else shouldn't have any problems. Type 'deploy baby' to get the door open. The baby then scurries under the fence and you get to read a charming story about his future life. Walk into the now opened hut and go over to the dresser. 'open drawer' reveals a peasant robe. Take it with 'get robe', put it on with 'wear robe', and then just because you're so neat and tidy, close the dresser with 'close drawer' to get an extra point. Congratulations, now you DRESS like a peasant!

=== Get ON FIRE Like a Peasant ===
This quest corresponds with the green dots on the map above.
#Go E, E, E, E, N to return to the inn and type 'open door' to get inside. 'talk man' to learn how to spend the night, which he'll only let you do if you're wearing Naked Ned's robe. Type 'get a room'. You'll wake up 20 minutes later, at which point you should walk over to the pantry and 'look pantry' to learn that the innkeeper seems to like a little something called "Old Man Rub" *ick*. You'll need the pot on the top shelf. Type 'get pot', 'get grease', or 'get horse grease' in order to reach up and grab it. With your nouveau headwear, you have to navigate your way out of the inn, which can be a little annoying. The controls don't work correctly. To move up, use the right arrow key. To move down, use the left arrow key. Left, use the down key. Right, up key.
#Go S and walk near the lantern. Congratulations, you're now ON FIRE and a true, honest to goodness peasant!

=== Get Your Revenge on Trogdor (maybe) ===
This quest corresponds with the red dots on the map above.
#You can now go up to Trogdor's lair. Walk N, N to get to the guard and type 'talk man' to get him to move. Walk E to get to the cliff, save your game, go up to the cliff, and type 'climb' to get into an incredibly annoying Sierra-esque boulder and bird dodge-fest. The ledges and branches on the cliff do nothing, so don't bother with them. You'll have to go up three screens to get to the top.
#You are now in Trogdor's lair. Save your game again. Walk into the cave and start heading E until you're accosted by the first keeper. You'll have to answer three questions about the game in order to make it to Trogdor. Alternatively, you can 'give sub', 'give soda', and 'give pills' to skip the questions (either of these option gives you the same number of points). The questions and correct answers are listed following the walkthrough.
#Go E to meet your doom. Don't walk too close to Trogdor. All you have to do is type 'use sword' to attack the beast. Now you've gotten his attention and must deal with his majesty. Type 'talk trogdor' or 'talk' to face the burninator, thus completing the game. Or, if you want to complete the game without 150 points, just keep typing things. Eventually he'll just burninate you, but you'll still win.

'''Questions and Answers'''

*'''Q.''' How many berry bushes are there in the whole kingdom of Peasantry? '''B.''' 5
**There are actually six, but apparently the game creators forgot the berry bush by the well. It doesn't respond to typical berry-bush commands, but it is regardless a berry bush.
*'''Q.''' To whom did the robe you're wearing originally belong? '''A.''' Naked Ned
*'''Q.''' What color are the leaves on the tree that grows by the well? '''A.''' Orange
*'''Q.''' What did you win from the Archery game? '''A.''' SuperTime FunBow TM
*'''Q.''' What does Mendelev have you tell Dongolev? '''A.''' Haldo
*'''Q.''' What is the only creature the Jhonka fears? '''A.''' The Kerrek
*'''Q.''' What was the Innkeeper's pantry full of? '''A.''' Old Man Rub
*'''Q.''' Which one of these letters is the letter C? '''A.''' C
*'''Q.''' Which way does the river that runs through Peasantry flow? '''C.''' Northeast to Southwest

'''Final score''': ''150 out of 150.''

== Points Guide ==

Points ... Action
:1......get pebbles
:2......put rocks in bucket
:2......talk to Mendelev at archery
:2......scare Poor Gary
:3......say haldo to Dongolev at the hidden glen
:2......get arrow out of the tree in hidden glen, first attempt only
:1......get chicken feed
:2......get berries
:2......throw chicken feed into lake
:2......give super trinket to Mendelev
:3......win SuperTime FunBow TM
:5......use bow to kill the Kerrek
:10.....get belt from Kerrek
:2......jump into mud puddle
:3......jump into hay
:7......get riches at Jhonka's cave
:5......give riches to Baby Lady
:5......throw baby into lake*
:3......put baby in bucket at the well*
:2......get baby out of the well* (Note: while not required to beat the game, this must be done if you put the baby in the bucket, or you die.)
:5......give baby to the inn-keeper*
:2......move rock on side of doorknobless cottage
:5......put baby into the hole at the doorknobless cottage
:10.....get robe in aforementioned cottage, AFTER opening drawer
:1......close drawer AFTER removing robe in doorknobless cottage*
:3......wear robe after getting it
:3......get room in inn
:2......get pot in inn
:3......exiting inn with pot on head
:10.....walking under candle in burninated trees
:7......talk to knight, at Mountain Pass
:3......successfully climbing the cliff without dying
:5......answering the first question right in the inner sanctum/handing over the sub
:5......answering the second question right in the inner sanctum/handing over the soda
:5......answering the third question right in the inner sanctum/handing over the pills
:7......use sword on trogdor
:10.....talk trogdor*

<nowiki>*</nowiki>- ''denotes an action not required to beat the game but earns you extra points.''

== Ways to Die ==
* Typing DIE.
* Attempting to harm/kill Poor Gary the horse by typing "kill horse".
* Walking too near to the Kerrek.
* Typing TRY outside the Mysterious Cottage.
** It makes more sense if you first type CRAWL IN HOLE then CUT OFF ARMS LEGS AND HEAD, but works without those.
* Typing "quit".
** You don't actually die, you just return to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|games menu]].
* Walking in front of Dongolev's bow.
* Trying to TAKE ARROW before Dongolev leaves.
* Admitting to the Jhonka that you took his riches when he asks you
* Dropping the baby in the well's bucket, then exiting the screen.
* Getting knocked off the cliff near Trogdor's lair.
* Failing the Trog-Trivia questions of any of the Three Keepers of Trogdor (a different message and animation for each).
**Technically, you don't die on all of them, but you lose anyways.
***1st. Turn into Ron Cumberdale...impossible to kill Trogdor.
***2nd. Turn into an Old Guy Musician...also impossible.
***3rd. Turn into a skeleton and perish.
* Sneaking too close to sleeping Trogdor.
* Winning (with or without talking to Trogdor).

== Map ==
[[Image:Peasantry Map.png|center|500px|Map of Peasantry]] 

This is the map of Peasantry. To find an acre's name, match it to the coordinates below.
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'''1A.''' Poor Gary's glen 
'''1B.''' Kerrek tracks 1 
'''1C.''' Old well 
'''1D.''' Yellow tree 
'''1E.''' Waterfall 
'''2A.''' That hay bale 
'''2B.''' That mud puddle 
'''2C.''' Archery range 
'''2D.''' River and stone 
'''2E.''' Mountain pass 
'''3A.''' Jhonka's cave 
'''3B.''' Your burninated cottage 
'''3C.''' Pebble lake west 
'''3D.''' Pebble lake east 
'''3E.''' Outside giant inn 
'''4A.''' Outside mysterious cottage 
'''4B.''' Wavy tree 
'''4C.''' Kerrek tracks 2 
'''4D.''' Outside baby lady cottage 
'''4E.''' Burninated trees

==See also==
*[[Peasant's Quest Items]]

{{Peasant's Quest}}

[[Category:Peasant's Quest]]