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== Freebies 1 ==
We need to list all the Freebies you can get with your order. As far as the keychains go, I only know of the Strongbadia Stop sign. --[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Wierd, cause i only know the homestar one. I have 2 of them. lol Is the strongbadia stopsign shaped like a star also, but with homestar's head replaced with the sign? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

:No, the [[Stop Sign]] keychain looks like the Stop Sign. It is shaped like the Stop Sign. I think it has www.homestarrunner.com on the back, written in white. I've actually lost mine, so I'll have to find it. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 01:23, 22 August 2005 (BST)

I seriously think that they should make plushies of Strong Bad, Homestar and the rest of the dudes, don't you? - [[Miss Free Country USA]]

== Clean up ==
===Re-writing===
This page really needs major work, especially in the updating-to-the-new-page department. I think we could also have a section or maybe another page for the Flash store page that they just recently stopped using.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, it was done for the [[FAQ]] and the [[Email FAQ]]. Any ideas for the title of the old store page? I was thinking either "Old Store" or "Flash Store". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:10, 23 May 2005 (BST)

Do you want them to be organized (the items) as they are in the store? -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 20:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey guys, check out my new cosplay! I mean, my [[User:Homestar_Coder/Store|Store revamp]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:41, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

===Orphaned Image===

Until a new section of this article (or a new article altogether) is created, the following is a screenshot of the "old" flash-based store that is no longer linked to any part of the site. I am including it here so it doesn't get "lost in the shuffle": [[Image:store_screenshot.png|100px]] {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

I'm not seeing this 'Dancing Homestar' easter egg... Is this confirmed? Can it be clarified at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:37, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yep. Certainly there. Try using "Tab". {{User:FireBird/sig}}

: It doesn't work on firefox for whatever reason however [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]

:: Didn't work at first. Refreshed it and worked like a charm (in FireFox). [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 21:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Works for me. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Works for me in Firefox 1.0.4. {{User:FireBird/sig}}

:::::how wierd! I refreshed and it works fine now! O_o

:::::: Amazing!!! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 07:35, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, figured that out (used Internet Explorer), but now I'm stuck on the other one. Where can I view the time at Bub's (the other easter egg)? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:Switch you computer clock to, say, ten o' clock and it will be night at Bubs'. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 12:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:: Just like in [[Population: Tire]]. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

::Ah, I see. CLARIFIE'D!!!! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I looked at some scripts and i found that the ones that can change backrounds have three. The nighttime is displayed between 7pm and 4am, the sunrise/sunset between 4am and 6am, also between 6pm and 7pm, and the rest daytime. So, starting at 12 am, from 12am to 4am nighttime, 4am-6am sunrise, 6am-6pm daylight, 6pm-7pm sunset, and 7pm-12am nighttime. Sunrise and sunset are identical, the ones that change are Bubsness and Song.
Also, this is the first use of my new signature: {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:22, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

For those of us late to the party: 'Dancing Homestar' Easter egg? Where? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:Oh wait, click the D. I found it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Random Troll, Maybe? ==

Why are the lyrics to "The Cheat" written SMACKDAB in the middle of "Out of Production" and "Toys" like someone trolled the page like a brainless n00b? (Not newb, as in a new guy, n00b as in an idiot) [[User:Mashi|Mashi]] 15:40, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

== Transcribed? ==

I'd like to give a whack at transcribing the product descriptions (actually just copy 'n' paste). Would that make the page too cluttery? Maybe we could make a table with the product pictures and descriptions. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== The last shirt. ==

The last tone on the shirts in the old store... Am I crazy or is that one not actually Homestar? It doesn't sound like a human voice to me.

== Other retailers? ==

Hi all,
I sell H*R stuff in Australia. Would it be appropreate to link my site on the wiki?

I'm not completly sure of wiki-etiquette!

- [[User:Twos|Phil]]

: MAYBE on your User page (if you have one); nowhere else. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[mailto:store@homestarrunner.com You could ask the Brothers Chaps] to mention your place at their [[HRStore:storelocator.html|store locator]], but right now they only list American and Canadian stores. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 17:11, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== nothing but products. ==

Proof that Homestarrunner.com is becoming nothing more than a commercial product.
: Uh... it's a Store page... is there a point here I'm missing? I've been seeing a lot of odd comments from regular users here all of a sudden... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Hasn't the Store page been there for years? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I don't know about you, but I like the updates once a week. If they didn't have a store, they'd have to get a job and the 'toons would not be released as often. They have to get money from some where! {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Legal Question ==

Can I obtain Strong Bad's face (for example), print it, go to my local T-shirt printer and do my own shirt? It will be only for personal use and I wouldn't make a dime out of this. Is it legal? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:50, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As long as you don't sell it commercially, I don't think. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:You don't think it's legal, or you don't think it will be a problam? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 02:27, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No, it's not legal. TBC have given the rights to reproduce their characters to the company that prints their shirts, and producing your own shirt undermines their ability to turn a profit. Now, as long as you don't ''sell'' your shirt (I'm assuming we're talking about ''one'' copy), you probably won't attract much notice. But you asked whether it was legal, not whether you would likely be prosecuted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:OK, now I get it. Thanks. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:26, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC) (And yeah.. I already made one :P)

==Hey Thanks==

I just found out an easter egg if you buy something at the store. It is called Hey, Thanks! Can someone make an article and make the article. It is a real toon. In order for you to view it, you must buy somethig. If you type in the URL, it has somnething with Strong Bad, instead of Homestar and Marzy. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:For all who are doubting, he link is [https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html], but Strong Bad gives a message about "sneaking in the back door". I have yet to buy something from the real store, so I have not seen the actually "Thanks" toon. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:37, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, here is a link to my recently ordered [https://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-thank-you?oid=homestarrunner-297528&vwoidc=61e2b415d863af1129ad&unique=15fcb&vwxide=4145791290.260be04ef173dff8f180f25f1f95278c&catalog=homestarrunner&et=42e166d3&basket=b%3D5C518088d800d68942e158da6dbb0508088d86443ffcf27217b04be1c9c9a8562%26l%3D%26s%3DVADDZWbQ2xhZiERhQCwNGHT1fcU-] figurine thing. Click the continue button. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:::Cool. And it looks like they use a bit of JavaScript to check where you are coming from on the "heythanks" page. I found five more files from references in the "sneaking in the back door" flash file:
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_celegante.swf thankyou_celegante.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bubsness.swf thankyou_bubsness.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_song.swf thankyou_song.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_cinnamon.swf thankyou_cinnamon.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bonus.swf thankyou_bonus.swf]
:::but I can't figure out if they are supposed to do anything yet or not.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:13, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::So, should we add this as an easter egg, or should we make an article. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:Tom: those are the direct Flash files for each "thank-you" message- there is more than one. Five, to be exact, if you count the "back door" message. Using Leader's "Continue" link, I've managed to see three of them- all except "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:05, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Your computer's clock has to be set to late night to see the "cinnamon" one. Is "bonus" the one with Strong Bad telling you to buy something? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Jay- "bonus.swf" is the back-door message.
:Anyone- Transcripts of these messages can be found [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=150347&highlight=#150347 here]. Note that I jotted them down quickly, especially "bubsness.swf", so they may be wrong. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:32, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Transcripts of all but the Bubsness message were already on the Store page. The "celgegante" message appears automatically after you see the "bubsness" message enough times, so I screwed up transcribing the Bubsness message by seeing it too many times. I'm using your version now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Cool. Looks like "song.swf" can be played during the day or at night. Changing my clock to around 11:00 p.m. shows that message at night. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:39, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Uh... in my testing, it replaced "celegante" in the same fashion that it replaces "bubsness", and when my clock was set to late at night (later than 11 PM) it ALWAYS gave me cinnamon.swf. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:41, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. Must be more than one "late night" toon. Seems as though even if I set my clock late, I still get "song.swf", only at night. I still can't get "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:43, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::::: That's because you're not setting it late enough. Try 3 AM. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:47, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. Got it. Semi-late night gives you the "song.swf" (at night), and late-late night gives you "cinnamon.swf". Cool. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:50, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: No no no, my clock is (correctly) reading 2:50 PM and I'm getting song.swf. I'm quite convinced that song.swf totally replaces celegante.swf after you see the latter enough times. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::You're sort of right. It goes in time order: bubsness.swf, celegante.swf, song.swf, song.swf (at night), and then cinnamon.swf. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:54, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: I think I'm getting a loop. I got Bubsness at night (set to 11:52 PM). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:55, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, it's a loop. Except at late night, it goes Bubness for a few rounds, then Celegante, and then Song, and then it starts over. At late night, it's ONLY Cinnamon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Well, further testing is helping nothing—I just went straight from Bubsness to Song. But I am quite convinced that (aside from cinnamon.swf) none of them have anything to do with the time on your clock. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:03, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::Doesn't look like it. song.swf will play with a night-time background if late enough, though. Cinnamon only plays at night, song will play at night (but not late) or day, and the other two only play in the day. Right? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:06, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Wrong. Like I said, I saw Bubsness at 11:50 PM (it was darkened but otherwise the same.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. I think I got it. Apparently (as far as we know) celegante can only be seen during the day, song and bubsness can be seen during either, and cinnamon can only be seen at night. Now am I right? :) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: So far, that's as much as we know. Personally, I suspect that Celegante can be seen at not-so-late night, but currently I haven't seen it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:21, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I think that celegante cam only be accsesed in midday, song and bubsness can only be seen at midday and night, and cinnamon must be after midnight. and I never knew that Strong Bad smoked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
:I can't get them to work [[Mini-Trogdor]]

::During the song one, on Marzipan's guitar, it doesn't say Carol on it. Should I put that as one of the goofs or something? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Flash software==
Speaking of, what's the best software to use to view Flash files directly? I've looked all around this wiki but I've never come across a name. A Google search gives results, but I don't know which one to pick. Pause. Rewind. Fast forward. Resize/Zoom. View source code. See behind the black. Any or all of these features would be preferable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I can get all of those features except the source code from simply watching the .swf file of any 'toon (we link them on every page.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:23, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Riiight... but what ''software'' do you use? Do you watch it straight from IE? Firefox? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::: IE. Right-click the toon to see all the features. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, I've been using IE for a ''while'' now to view .swf files, and not being able to jump ahead, or to move forward or backward more than one frame at a time, just isn't cutting it. I need something more advanced. Some people mention a "seek bar", which tells me there is software out there that is better than just plain ol' IE. Is it Flash developer software? Is it expensive? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Try [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html here] [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::::::It's dot com: I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler]. The demo doesn't expire. Being just a demo, it doesn't allow you to decompile much, but as a viewer it works great. Oh, and you can see the scripts and inner workings all cool-like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Thank you Ed and Tom! — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 21:17, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::About that Flash Decompiler, I know this might seem like a stupid question, but how do u view .swf files on there? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:48, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I can type a URL directly in where the filename would go in the Open dialog box. Otherwise, you could right-click on the link to the Flash file and save it to your computer and then open it locally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Oh, thanx! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:33, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Store Revamp ==

I noticed [[User:mibluvr13|mib]] revamped the article. It looks great, but I think it could use some improvement, especially the "Accesories" section. The pictures stretch the screen on smaller screens, and I think it'd look nice if most, if not all, of the products were tables with the "closeup" feature on all of them. I also don't really like the direct images from the actual Homestar Runner Store. I think they could use some editing (and better quality). If the whole thing was a table, it wouldn't look so cluttered and messy, but easy on the eyes and not as difficult to read. My two cents. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:07, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Freebies ==
What do the freebies look like (particularly the big freebie, the keychain)? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:33, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The keychain is the basically looks like this [http://groups.msn.com/bkmlb/stuff.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=27 this] and on the back in white writing is homestarrunner.com--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] 22:46, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:But what about that other one described? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::The other keychain is the shape of a star. The front has a red border with Homestar Runner in the middle, and the back has three smaller stars with the words "homestarrunner.com" in red writing. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:21, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

They have the Homestar one that is white, shaped like a star, has a picture of homestar on it, a red border, and says the site adress in red on the back. The Strongbadia one is red, shaped like a stop sign (octagon), has the word 'STOP' in white on it, with 'STRONGBADIA, POP: TIRE' in a spraypainted black font written overtop, and has the site adress in white on the back. I don't know of any others! --dayve_57, 1 Oct 2005

Here's a tidbit: on the order confirmation/acknowledgement emails, Big Freebie A is the homestar keychain, and Big Freebie B is the stop sign... I think. I haven't got my order yet but I noticed that I got a different freebie, supposedly... so I think that is how you know which you got. -[[User:Jenny|Jenny]] 21:13, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

:Yup, that's right. And it's now *finally* noted in the newly organized [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. Thanks Jenny, sharp eye. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== shirts in the shirt songs no longer available ==

I went ahead and deleted the goof about the 2 shirts not available anymore out, since it was just recently replaced with the new ones.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

== Kick The Cheat coming back? ==

"The Cheat Doll will be back later this month." How do we know this? Is it in the Store somewhere? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:28, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== No longer available ==

I know that you have a section for some of the T-shirt that aren't available anymore, but I was thinking that it might be cool to have a section where it says some of the other things that used to be available in the store such as the tattoos and the Strongbadia Floaty Pen. Thanks!

:I see the classic navy Homestar shirt listed in the unavailable items. Why aren't there images for these? This shirt in particular is one of the most important pieces of merchandise TBC have ever produced. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The white Homestar Classic is conspicuously absent as well. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:17, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::There aren't images for them because nobody made them yet. :p Seriously, I've been meaning to get images for that stuff from archives of old store pages and the old Flash store. Thanks for the reminder. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:26, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Shirt Songs==

http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/tshirts1.html

here is how to play the most known part of Ode To Joy on the shirts in the store.

The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black,
The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman,
Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, Strong Bad Head.

have fun.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Super Store 64 ===
{{stufffact|The "Thank You" page's page title is "Thank you so much for to buying our crap!" This is a reference to the phrase Mario says at the end of [[Wikipedia:Super Mario 64|Super Mario 64]]: "Thank you so much for to playing my game!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:54, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)|03:13, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|17|0|Store}}

== Ow! My browser! ==

Man, this page kills on slow computers. Maybe we should split up the items, much like [[Sightings]] ("Store T-shirts", "Store Toys", etc.)? The Store article also looks very, very cluttered and hard to read the way it is. Any ideas? Anyone else want to tackle this? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I agree that this page does look cluttered and we probably should divide this article into muliple pages like T-shirts and Toys. And for the recent changes to the "Front Page", perhaps we could note the difference between text updates instead of quoting verbatim the many "COMING SOON!" sections that say almost exactly the same thing using different words. Does this sound re-zon-able? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== Floaty Pen ==

Does anyone have a picture of it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hmmm... I'ma gonna start hunting. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Store Autumn thing ==

The updates page said that the change to the autumn theme was today, but I remember seeing it a couple days ago. [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]] 18:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's possible, but the last time I visited it was like three days ago. And it was normal. So it probably changed some time since then. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== New Shirts ==

There are new shirts in the store that aren't on this page.
:Nckinfn04, sometimes you just have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=207767&oldid=207029 wait it out]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== Layout stuff ==

I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 think] there are a couple of layout things that need to be discussed.
#The [[Store#T-Shirts|T-Shirts]] section table looks great except for the Sizes column. Currently, only one row has all the sizes listed and really it looks unsightly. I'd do away with the entire column if it was me and think of a different way of listing these (perhaps an extra <code>colspan</code>'d row below each entry).
#Also, the '''20X6 Stinko Man Shirt!!!''' pictures should have the red '''20X6''' box removed from them.
#I'm not sure what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 updates] table is referred to here. But tables are generally good.
#It's been discussed or at least mentioned before that this page be broken up. Should it? It's not as big as i thought it was but it sure is sizeable. Regardless, the layout of the products and their description is not yet consistent among sections.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Store Screenshot ==

I took a screenshot of the store using Firefox and [https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1146&application=firefox Screen Grab] that shows the whole page, rather than just the part that showed up in Fahooglewitz's window. If you guy's like it, feel free to use it instead.
[http://jaredandaubrey.net/images/blog_pics/hrstore.png The Screenshot]

== Cleanup ==

This page needs to be cleaned up. The tables are okay, but it clashes with the other items and descriptions. It needs to be cleaned up, and maybe sorted into subpages. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have posted some of my suggestions [[Talk:Store#Layout_stuff|here]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well I cleaned up the [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. That's been bugging me for a long time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

===Update===

:Okay, I spent quite a while cleaning up the store. How does it look now? If it's good enough, then I'd like to add the id tags like we did with the Floppy Disk Container, and move over the links to the store from the [[H*R.com updates 2000|updates]] series of articles to ones straight to the store page here. Maybe leave the current links straight to the store for now, but since the links get out of dated, I'd like to switch most of them over to a permanent solution here. But I don't want to get started on that unless everybody agrees this page is good enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}

:Well, no opposition here. I'm saying it's cleaned up enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::Nice Job Thunderbird and you definitely put in lots of work into that page! I do have two questions though: I didn't quite understand what you meant to do when you said you were gonna add id tages like the Floppy Disk container to change some links... what links specifically were you going to change? Can you provide examples? Also, there's still open the suggestion of breaking this into several pages. What you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I just timed how long it took Firefox to load this page over dial-up (I noticed it was takaing a while, so I pressed Ctrl+Shift+R with one eye on the clock) and it took 10:41. That's in mm:ss. That's ridiculous. Some of these images could probably benefit from PNG optimization. Argh! MS Paint in WinME can't do that. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman ringer ==

Why was the Stinkoman ringer t-shirt discontinued shortly after it was out?

Not sure. Maybe it didn't sell very much. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar update (update..'d) ==

Just a small update on the Homsar t-shirt. I contacted the store about it. They don't plan to reprint it ''until enough people request it'':
<pre>We will count your email as a "vote" for bringing back the Homsar T-shirt.</pre>
So, I'm just a friendly reminder. If more people want the Homsar shirt, [mailto:store@homestarrunner.com go tell 'em].

''Status update''
<pre>He'll be back again around the end of March.</pre>
'nuff said.

== Collaborative Community Project ==

It's been awhile since we've done a community project, but I think it's about time for another one. I've been wanting to work on Store for a long time, so I thought this would be a good way to get something done with it. A couple of things that need to be done:

==={{done}} Images===
All of the images now follow the [[HRWiki:Image use policy|image use policy]].

==={{done}} Updating [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and [[Flash Store]] ===
Both [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and the [[Flash Store]] have been updated with the correct images.

==={{done}} Different pages for each type of product===
This is what I've been wanting to do for a long time. Instead of one massive Store article, I think it'd be nice to have different pages for each type of article: <nowiki>[[Store T-Shirts]], [[Store Toys]],</nowiki> etc. This would make [[Store]] much shorter, and it'd be easier to keep up with and archive the different descriptions for each product, which change around some. This is just an idea, of course, and I'd like to see some different opinons on it.

If you have any other ideas, feel free to suggest them here as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 06:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

: I went ahead and started editing the page based on your suggestion. Is this what you were thinking of, or did I screw up? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::It looks fine to me, AtionSong. If you weren't about to do so, I'm going to continue creating in this fashion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::: I'll Work from the bottom up to avoid edit conflicts. Can you start at the top? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I would be happy to. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

It looks like we did a good job! The page looks much better now. Oh, and I'm impressed that in the middle of all this editing, you STILL have time to welcome a new user. Wow. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:When you're on the welcoming committee, you don't pass up a new user often. You did a very nice job as well. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::Good work, juys! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

==={{done}} ID Tags===

Don't forget, many of the id tags are linked to from various parts of the site, especially [[H*R.com updates 2006|H*R updates]]. Make sure you either leave them be, or update their links. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:I think this will be the last thing we need to do. If we can knock this out, I think we'll be done! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::What do these things ''do''? I've been trying to figure that out, but am stumped. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::For linking to a specific part of a table, for instance the Floppy Disk Container. Compare [[Floppy Disk Container]] to [[Floppy Disk Container#tongue of the fatman]] or [[Floppy Disk Container#spy vs spy]]. Usually we can use section breaks (<nowiki>== Section or ===Section===</nowiki>), but in the case of tables we need to "id tag them" so we can link to a specific point. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::::DONE! '''<tt>[[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|ŢɦųηɗəřÞìɤɖ]][[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>''' 00:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

===Other Comments===
==== Separation ====
I really should make a seperate table for Items not avalible anymore. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:Do you have any images of them? It'd be really nice to get some. {{User:FireBird/sig}}
::I meant like the red the cheat shirt {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

::If you mean making a seperate section for T-Shirts that currently aren't available, we already [[Store#Currently not available|have one]], but it isn't a table. I thought you meant the [[Store#No Longer Available|No Longer Available]] section of Freebies. (BTW, The red The Cheat shirt is still available to buy.) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I can't find the TGS hoodie on the store {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

==== Long and Clunky ====
Is it just me or does this page just seem awkward to navigate through? I'm not sure what to do about it but it just doesnt seem to fit. {{User:DBK/sig}} 02:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree, although, I think it's at it's navigation acme. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Store news archive ==

[[http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/ wayback machine for hr store]]
the wayback machine has the front page news from.. wayback. there are pages for 2005 news and 2006 news but why not '04, '03, '02?--[[User:Collin|Collin]] 01:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. Can someone with more free time add these? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Edit Links ==

Is it just me, or when you click on an edit link, does it take you to the next section down? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:No, this is a pretty long standing bug in MediaWiki (that so far isn't fixed in 1.6) which causes this to happen if either A.) a section is created with the HTML <h''x''> tags or B.) there is something on the same line as the section header outside the equals signs. I'm-a-go fix that right now. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Couldn't find it after going through some of the recent revisions, so I think it might have been just you. Disclaimer: I could always be wrong. I'll check some more when I get back from class. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Nope, couldn't find it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Musical Shirts ==

The page mentions musical shirts, but isn't that version of the store off the site?
:The original musical shirt selection on the [[Flash Store]] is gone, but the current store T-shirt page has a smaller rendition of the musical lineup. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Oh. My bad.
:::(For way more on those musical shirts than you or your grandmother could possibly want, see [[User talk:AbdiViklas#T-shirt pitches|my talk page]]!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== What's wrong? ==

What's wrong with the Store page? I think it look's good. It has alot of information, and everything look's in place. What's wrong with it?
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]

: The Cleanup is old. We already cleaned it up. The template is from a few days ago from before we did. A sysop should take that notice down. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

::Actually, AtionSong, there's a final bit of work to be completed. Since we've moved the products to seperate pages, all anchored links the store are now, in effect, broken. Currently, [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is on this, but feel free to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Store|pitch in]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::If TBird is on top of the ID links, are we all set to take the notice off recentchangesnotice and The Stick, Lapper? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

== History of the store ==

I was wondering if there could/should be a section on the history of the store. Was it always there and how did it grow? I think it would be an interesting section to add to the page, if possible. --[[User:Positatewithoutpizzaz|Positatewithoutpizzaz]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, there was the [[Flash Store]], and now there's this one. That's all I know. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Why $14.95 for ladies? ==

Why does it cost more?--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 22:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yes!! ==

Yes!! I saw a store update before the wiki did!! Woohoo!! ...sorry, I've just always wanted to do that before. Please don't spoil my fun. :P

== Official store in Atlanta? ==

I was headed to Atlanta this week and assumed there would be a store (or retailer) in their hometown. Is there any place there that sells merchandise?
:The homestarrunner.com store licenses select independent retail establishments to sell some of their merchandise based on [[HRStore:reop.html|these conditions]]. The list of those retailers is located [[HRStore:storelocator.html|here]]. There is only one store in Georgia, and it is in Athens. There remains one ''official'' store, and it is on the [[HRStore:|Internet]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Amazon.com ==

I noticed a few [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] items for sale on [http://amazon.com Amazon.com]:
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009811ZG B0009811ZG] [[strongbad_email.exe]] (for $25.99; in the [[Store]] it's "Reg. price: $29.95 Sale price: $26.96")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BB7C1S B000BB7C1S] [[strongbad email.exe Disc Four]] (for $10.99; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007R6JOM B0007R6JOM] [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]] (for $11.98; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $10.00 Sale Price: $9.00")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3GNKO B000E3GNKO] [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] ("8 used & new available from $8.97"; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
The first three say "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com."

I'm not sure how notable or interesting this is, but I figured I'd post it here regardless. Thoughts? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Very interesting to say the least. I'd say notable if we can find out the story behind Amazon selling this stuff. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::Note how Everything Else Vol. 1 is only "available from these sellers", however. All the others are sold from Amazon directly. (And Volume 2 doesn't appear to be anywhere.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pirated merchandise watch ==

From an email exchange between myself and [[Karen Wagner]]:
<tt><blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 01:03:39 -0400 
From: Tom Preuss <tom@hrwiki.org> 
To: Karen Wagner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
 
Hi Karen, 
 
I just wanted to bring 
http://www.blackmarkettoronto.com/shoppingCart/addCart.php?pID=1293 to 
your attention. I'm not sure if you can cease and desist them or 
anything, but I figured you would be the person to contact for that. 
 
Best regards, 
 
Tom Preuss</blockquote>
and
<blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:06:23 -0700 (PDT) 
From: HomestarRunner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
To: tom@hrwiki.org 
 
Tom, 
 
Thanks for the info! We are grateful to fans like you who watch out for pirated merchandise. Here's a coupon for your trouble. 
 
[removed] 
 
Type the code in the "Coupon or Promotional Code" box during checkout and $3.00 will be deducted from your merchandise total of $30.00 or more. In fact, if you want to spread the word around the hrwiki that we're giving out coupons to those who bring these types of thing to our attention, that would be great. 
 
Thanks again, 
Karen Wagner</blockquote></tt>
Just a little FYI. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar shirt preview ==

I was just browsing the store when I noticed that the preview for the Homsar shirt was in a Flash file. Namely, [[Videlectrix:storeflash/shirt_homsar.swf|here]]. It's pretty weird that it's hosted on the Videlectrix site, and not on the main one, or the Yahoo store. Anyways, does anybody know when it was added, and if so, how and where do we mention it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks to [http://www.archive.org archive.org], I have found out that is was put up sometime after June 22, 2007. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 18:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::The shirt was re-introduced in Nov 2007, according to [[Store T-shirts]]. Whether that Flash file was there then or not, I don't know. I know it was there pre-Christmas, though, since I encountered it then (sometime within a week before Dec 25). That probably doesn't help. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Recently read that some people have [[Talk:environment#Release date|the power]] to see when files were "last modified" .. that might help, eh? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bad Math ==
Currently, the store lists the Strong Bad overkill combo as being '''$63.95''' separately. I don't know about anyone else, but I do the math as follows: Strong Bad Emails 3 Disc DVD Set '''$29.95 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 4 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 5 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Sings CD '''$12 = $65.95'''. I don't quite know how to phrase a goof like this, so I invite some talented soul to do so. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's a common practice to throw in a small discount on combo packs in stores to sell the items... otherwise, why buy the combo, instead of just buying the individual items? -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::Wait... reread your post, and think I may have the answer... it's '''still''' a goof, though! Take out the price for the Strong Bad Sings CD (Note that the store says "'''FREE'' Strong Bad Sings CD"), and you get $'''5'''3.95 as the price individually. Still a goof, but just a 5 instead of a 6. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:::<s>I think combo prices usually charge a bit '''more''' than usual prices, since they know some people will buy them no matter what the price. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 15:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)</s>
:::Oh, nevermind. I get what you're saying. I think that TBC are still counting the CD's price as it is still included in the combo, free or not. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 15:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I got this response from the Customer Support team over at the store:
<tt><blockquote>The "$63.95 Separately" price was for during the holidays when the CD was on sale for $10. We forgot to change it once the sale was over. Thanks for letting us know.</blockquote></tt>

So... there's the mystery solved! -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 16:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

==Correct bottom animation?==
Am I the only one that gets the wrong animation on the bottom of the store site? I get the Autumn animation, but January is clearly not Autumn. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Yahoo Store

StarLion — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:18:55 GMT

StarLion: /* Bad Math */ Must... sign...post....

{{featuredarticle}}
== Freebies 1 ==
We need to list all the Freebies you can get with your order. As far as the keychains go, I only know of the Strongbadia Stop sign. --[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Wierd, cause i only know the homestar one. I have 2 of them. lol Is the strongbadia stopsign shaped like a star also, but with homestar's head replaced with the sign? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

:No, the [[Stop Sign]] keychain looks like the Stop Sign. It is shaped like the Stop Sign. I think it has www.homestarrunner.com on the back, written in white. I've actually lost mine, so I'll have to find it. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 01:23, 22 August 2005 (BST)

I seriously think that they should make plushies of Strong Bad, Homestar and the rest of the dudes, don't you? - [[Miss Free Country USA]]

== Clean up ==
===Re-writing===
This page really needs major work, especially in the updating-to-the-new-page department. I think we could also have a section or maybe another page for the Flash store page that they just recently stopped using.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, it was done for the [[FAQ]] and the [[Email FAQ]]. Any ideas for the title of the old store page? I was thinking either "Old Store" or "Flash Store". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:10, 23 May 2005 (BST)

Do you want them to be organized (the items) as they are in the store? -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 20:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey guys, check out my new cosplay! I mean, my [[User:Homestar_Coder/Store|Store revamp]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:41, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

===Orphaned Image===

Until a new section of this article (or a new article altogether) is created, the following is a screenshot of the "old" flash-based store that is no longer linked to any part of the site. I am including it here so it doesn't get "lost in the shuffle": [[Image:store_screenshot.png|100px]] {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

I'm not seeing this 'Dancing Homestar' easter egg... Is this confirmed? Can it be clarified at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:37, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yep. Certainly there. Try using "Tab". {{User:FireBird/sig}}

: It doesn't work on firefox for whatever reason however [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]

:: Didn't work at first. Refreshed it and worked like a charm (in FireFox). [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 21:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Works for me. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Works for me in Firefox 1.0.4. {{User:FireBird/sig}}

:::::how wierd! I refreshed and it works fine now! O_o

:::::: Amazing!!! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 07:35, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, figured that out (used Internet Explorer), but now I'm stuck on the other one. Where can I view the time at Bub's (the other easter egg)? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:Switch you computer clock to, say, ten o' clock and it will be night at Bubs'. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 12:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:: Just like in [[Population: Tire]]. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

::Ah, I see. CLARIFIE'D!!!! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I looked at some scripts and i found that the ones that can change backrounds have three. The nighttime is displayed between 7pm and 4am, the sunrise/sunset between 4am and 6am, also between 6pm and 7pm, and the rest daytime. So, starting at 12 am, from 12am to 4am nighttime, 4am-6am sunrise, 6am-6pm daylight, 6pm-7pm sunset, and 7pm-12am nighttime. Sunrise and sunset are identical, the ones that change are Bubsness and Song.
Also, this is the first use of my new signature: {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:22, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

For those of us late to the party: 'Dancing Homestar' Easter egg? Where? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:Oh wait, click the D. I found it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Random Troll, Maybe? ==

Why are the lyrics to "The Cheat" written SMACKDAB in the middle of "Out of Production" and "Toys" like someone trolled the page like a brainless n00b? (Not newb, as in a new guy, n00b as in an idiot) [[User:Mashi|Mashi]] 15:40, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

== Transcribed? ==

I'd like to give a whack at transcribing the product descriptions (actually just copy 'n' paste). Would that make the page too cluttery? Maybe we could make a table with the product pictures and descriptions. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== The last shirt. ==

The last tone on the shirts in the old store... Am I crazy or is that one not actually Homestar? It doesn't sound like a human voice to me.

== Other retailers? ==

Hi all,
I sell H*R stuff in Australia. Would it be appropreate to link my site on the wiki?

I'm not completly sure of wiki-etiquette!

- [[User:Twos|Phil]]

: MAYBE on your User page (if you have one); nowhere else. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[mailto:store@homestarrunner.com You could ask the Brothers Chaps] to mention your place at their [[HRStore:storelocator.html|store locator]], but right now they only list American and Canadian stores. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 17:11, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== nothing but products. ==

Proof that Homestarrunner.com is becoming nothing more than a commercial product.
: Uh... it's a Store page... is there a point here I'm missing? I've been seeing a lot of odd comments from regular users here all of a sudden... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Hasn't the Store page been there for years? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I don't know about you, but I like the updates once a week. If they didn't have a store, they'd have to get a job and the 'toons would not be released as often. They have to get money from some where! {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Legal Question ==

Can I obtain Strong Bad's face (for example), print it, go to my local T-shirt printer and do my own shirt? It will be only for personal use and I wouldn't make a dime out of this. Is it legal? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:50, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As long as you don't sell it commercially, I don't think. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:You don't think it's legal, or you don't think it will be a problam? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 02:27, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No, it's not legal. TBC have given the rights to reproduce their characters to the company that prints their shirts, and producing your own shirt undermines their ability to turn a profit. Now, as long as you don't ''sell'' your shirt (I'm assuming we're talking about ''one'' copy), you probably won't attract much notice. But you asked whether it was legal, not whether you would likely be prosecuted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:OK, now I get it. Thanks. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:26, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC) (And yeah.. I already made one :P)

==Hey Thanks==

I just found out an easter egg if you buy something at the store. It is called Hey, Thanks! Can someone make an article and make the article. It is a real toon. In order for you to view it, you must buy somethig. If you type in the URL, it has somnething with Strong Bad, instead of Homestar and Marzy. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:For all who are doubting, he link is [https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html], but Strong Bad gives a message about "sneaking in the back door". I have yet to buy something from the real store, so I have not seen the actually "Thanks" toon. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:37, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, here is a link to my recently ordered [https://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-thank-you?oid=homestarrunner-297528&vwoidc=61e2b415d863af1129ad&unique=15fcb&vwxide=4145791290.260be04ef173dff8f180f25f1f95278c&catalog=homestarrunner&et=42e166d3&basket=b%3D5C518088d800d68942e158da6dbb0508088d86443ffcf27217b04be1c9c9a8562%26l%3D%26s%3DVADDZWbQ2xhZiERhQCwNGHT1fcU-] figurine thing. Click the continue button. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:::Cool. And it looks like they use a bit of JavaScript to check where you are coming from on the "heythanks" page. I found five more files from references in the "sneaking in the back door" flash file:
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_celegante.swf thankyou_celegante.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bubsness.swf thankyou_bubsness.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_song.swf thankyou_song.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_cinnamon.swf thankyou_cinnamon.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bonus.swf thankyou_bonus.swf]
:::but I can't figure out if they are supposed to do anything yet or not.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:13, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::So, should we add this as an easter egg, or should we make an article. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:Tom: those are the direct Flash files for each "thank-you" message- there is more than one. Five, to be exact, if you count the "back door" message. Using Leader's "Continue" link, I've managed to see three of them- all except "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:05, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Your computer's clock has to be set to late night to see the "cinnamon" one. Is "bonus" the one with Strong Bad telling you to buy something? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Jay- "bonus.swf" is the back-door message.
:Anyone- Transcripts of these messages can be found [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=150347&highlight=#150347 here]. Note that I jotted them down quickly, especially "bubsness.swf", so they may be wrong. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:32, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Transcripts of all but the Bubsness message were already on the Store page. The "celgegante" message appears automatically after you see the "bubsness" message enough times, so I screwed up transcribing the Bubsness message by seeing it too many times. I'm using your version now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Cool. Looks like "song.swf" can be played during the day or at night. Changing my clock to around 11:00 p.m. shows that message at night. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:39, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Uh... in my testing, it replaced "celegante" in the same fashion that it replaces "bubsness", and when my clock was set to late at night (later than 11 PM) it ALWAYS gave me cinnamon.swf. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:41, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. Must be more than one "late night" toon. Seems as though even if I set my clock late, I still get "song.swf", only at night. I still can't get "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:43, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::::: That's because you're not setting it late enough. Try 3 AM. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:47, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. Got it. Semi-late night gives you the "song.swf" (at night), and late-late night gives you "cinnamon.swf". Cool. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:50, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: No no no, my clock is (correctly) reading 2:50 PM and I'm getting song.swf. I'm quite convinced that song.swf totally replaces celegante.swf after you see the latter enough times. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::You're sort of right. It goes in time order: bubsness.swf, celegante.swf, song.swf, song.swf (at night), and then cinnamon.swf. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:54, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: I think I'm getting a loop. I got Bubsness at night (set to 11:52 PM). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:55, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, it's a loop. Except at late night, it goes Bubness for a few rounds, then Celegante, and then Song, and then it starts over. At late night, it's ONLY Cinnamon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Well, further testing is helping nothing—I just went straight from Bubsness to Song. But I am quite convinced that (aside from cinnamon.swf) none of them have anything to do with the time on your clock. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:03, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::Doesn't look like it. song.swf will play with a night-time background if late enough, though. Cinnamon only plays at night, song will play at night (but not late) or day, and the other two only play in the day. Right? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:06, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Wrong. Like I said, I saw Bubsness at 11:50 PM (it was darkened but otherwise the same.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. I think I got it. Apparently (as far as we know) celegante can only be seen during the day, song and bubsness can be seen during either, and cinnamon can only be seen at night. Now am I right? :) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: So far, that's as much as we know. Personally, I suspect that Celegante can be seen at not-so-late night, but currently I haven't seen it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:21, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I think that celegante cam only be accsesed in midday, song and bubsness can only be seen at midday and night, and cinnamon must be after midnight. and I never knew that Strong Bad smoked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
:I can't get them to work [[Mini-Trogdor]]

::During the song one, on Marzipan's guitar, it doesn't say Carol on it. Should I put that as one of the goofs or something? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Flash software==
Speaking of, what's the best software to use to view Flash files directly? I've looked all around this wiki but I've never come across a name. A Google search gives results, but I don't know which one to pick. Pause. Rewind. Fast forward. Resize/Zoom. View source code. See behind the black. Any or all of these features would be preferable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I can get all of those features except the source code from simply watching the .swf file of any 'toon (we link them on every page.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:23, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Riiight... but what ''software'' do you use? Do you watch it straight from IE? Firefox? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::: IE. Right-click the toon to see all the features. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, I've been using IE for a ''while'' now to view .swf files, and not being able to jump ahead, or to move forward or backward more than one frame at a time, just isn't cutting it. I need something more advanced. Some people mention a "seek bar", which tells me there is software out there that is better than just plain ol' IE. Is it Flash developer software? Is it expensive? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Try [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html here] [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::::::It's dot com: I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler]. The demo doesn't expire. Being just a demo, it doesn't allow you to decompile much, but as a viewer it works great. Oh, and you can see the scripts and inner workings all cool-like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Thank you Ed and Tom! — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 21:17, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::About that Flash Decompiler, I know this might seem like a stupid question, but how do u view .swf files on there? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:48, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I can type a URL directly in where the filename would go in the Open dialog box. Otherwise, you could right-click on the link to the Flash file and save it to your computer and then open it locally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Oh, thanx! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:33, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Store Revamp ==

I noticed [[User:mibluvr13|mib]] revamped the article. It looks great, but I think it could use some improvement, especially the "Accesories" section. The pictures stretch the screen on smaller screens, and I think it'd look nice if most, if not all, of the products were tables with the "closeup" feature on all of them. I also don't really like the direct images from the actual Homestar Runner Store. I think they could use some editing (and better quality). If the whole thing was a table, it wouldn't look so cluttered and messy, but easy on the eyes and not as difficult to read. My two cents. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:07, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Freebies ==
What do the freebies look like (particularly the big freebie, the keychain)? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:33, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The keychain is the basically looks like this [http://groups.msn.com/bkmlb/stuff.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=27 this] and on the back in white writing is homestarrunner.com--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] 22:46, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:But what about that other one described? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::The other keychain is the shape of a star. The front has a red border with Homestar Runner in the middle, and the back has three smaller stars with the words "homestarrunner.com" in red writing. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:21, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

They have the Homestar one that is white, shaped like a star, has a picture of homestar on it, a red border, and says the site adress in red on the back. The Strongbadia one is red, shaped like a stop sign (octagon), has the word 'STOP' in white on it, with 'STRONGBADIA, POP: TIRE' in a spraypainted black font written overtop, and has the site adress in white on the back. I don't know of any others! --dayve_57, 1 Oct 2005

Here's a tidbit: on the order confirmation/acknowledgement emails, Big Freebie A is the homestar keychain, and Big Freebie B is the stop sign... I think. I haven't got my order yet but I noticed that I got a different freebie, supposedly... so I think that is how you know which you got. -[[User:Jenny|Jenny]] 21:13, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

:Yup, that's right. And it's now *finally* noted in the newly organized [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. Thanks Jenny, sharp eye. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== shirts in the shirt songs no longer available ==

I went ahead and deleted the goof about the 2 shirts not available anymore out, since it was just recently replaced with the new ones.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

== Kick The Cheat coming back? ==

"The Cheat Doll will be back later this month." How do we know this? Is it in the Store somewhere? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:28, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== No longer available ==

I know that you have a section for some of the T-shirt that aren't available anymore, but I was thinking that it might be cool to have a section where it says some of the other things that used to be available in the store such as the tattoos and the Strongbadia Floaty Pen. Thanks!

:I see the classic navy Homestar shirt listed in the unavailable items. Why aren't there images for these? This shirt in particular is one of the most important pieces of merchandise TBC have ever produced. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The white Homestar Classic is conspicuously absent as well. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:17, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::There aren't images for them because nobody made them yet. :p Seriously, I've been meaning to get images for that stuff from archives of old store pages and the old Flash store. Thanks for the reminder. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:26, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Shirt Songs==

http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/tshirts1.html

here is how to play the most known part of Ode To Joy on the shirts in the store.

The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black,
The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman,
Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, Strong Bad Head.

have fun.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Super Store 64 ===
{{stufffact|The "Thank You" page's page title is "Thank you so much for to buying our crap!" This is a reference to the phrase Mario says at the end of [[Wikipedia:Super Mario 64|Super Mario 64]]: "Thank you so much for to playing my game!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:54, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)|03:13, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|17|0|Store}}

== Ow! My browser! ==

Man, this page kills on slow computers. Maybe we should split up the items, much like [[Sightings]] ("Store T-shirts", "Store Toys", etc.)? The Store article also looks very, very cluttered and hard to read the way it is. Any ideas? Anyone else want to tackle this? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I agree that this page does look cluttered and we probably should divide this article into muliple pages like T-shirts and Toys. And for the recent changes to the "Front Page", perhaps we could note the difference between text updates instead of quoting verbatim the many "COMING SOON!" sections that say almost exactly the same thing using different words. Does this sound re-zon-able? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== Floaty Pen ==

Does anyone have a picture of it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hmmm... I'ma gonna start hunting. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Store Autumn thing ==

The updates page said that the change to the autumn theme was today, but I remember seeing it a couple days ago. [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]] 18:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's possible, but the last time I visited it was like three days ago. And it was normal. So it probably changed some time since then. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== New Shirts ==

There are new shirts in the store that aren't on this page.
:Nckinfn04, sometimes you just have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=207767&oldid=207029 wait it out]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== Layout stuff ==

I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 think] there are a couple of layout things that need to be discussed.
#The [[Store#T-Shirts|T-Shirts]] section table looks great except for the Sizes column. Currently, only one row has all the sizes listed and really it looks unsightly. I'd do away with the entire column if it was me and think of a different way of listing these (perhaps an extra <code>colspan</code>'d row below each entry).
#Also, the '''20X6 Stinko Man Shirt!!!''' pictures should have the red '''20X6''' box removed from them.
#I'm not sure what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 updates] table is referred to here. But tables are generally good.
#It's been discussed or at least mentioned before that this page be broken up. Should it? It's not as big as i thought it was but it sure is sizeable. Regardless, the layout of the products and their description is not yet consistent among sections.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Store Screenshot ==

I took a screenshot of the store using Firefox and [https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1146&application=firefox Screen Grab] that shows the whole page, rather than just the part that showed up in Fahooglewitz's window. If you guy's like it, feel free to use it instead.
[http://jaredandaubrey.net/images/blog_pics/hrstore.png The Screenshot]

== Cleanup ==

This page needs to be cleaned up. The tables are okay, but it clashes with the other items and descriptions. It needs to be cleaned up, and maybe sorted into subpages. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have posted some of my suggestions [[Talk:Store#Layout_stuff|here]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well I cleaned up the [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. That's been bugging me for a long time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

===Update===

:Okay, I spent quite a while cleaning up the store. How does it look now? If it's good enough, then I'd like to add the id tags like we did with the Floppy Disk Container, and move over the links to the store from the [[H*R.com updates 2000|updates]] series of articles to ones straight to the store page here. Maybe leave the current links straight to the store for now, but since the links get out of dated, I'd like to switch most of them over to a permanent solution here. But I don't want to get started on that unless everybody agrees this page is good enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}

:Well, no opposition here. I'm saying it's cleaned up enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::Nice Job Thunderbird and you definitely put in lots of work into that page! I do have two questions though: I didn't quite understand what you meant to do when you said you were gonna add id tages like the Floppy Disk container to change some links... what links specifically were you going to change? Can you provide examples? Also, there's still open the suggestion of breaking this into several pages. What you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I just timed how long it took Firefox to load this page over dial-up (I noticed it was takaing a while, so I pressed Ctrl+Shift+R with one eye on the clock) and it took 10:41. That's in mm:ss. That's ridiculous. Some of these images could probably benefit from PNG optimization. Argh! MS Paint in WinME can't do that. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman ringer ==

Why was the Stinkoman ringer t-shirt discontinued shortly after it was out?

Not sure. Maybe it didn't sell very much. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar update (update..'d) ==

Just a small update on the Homsar t-shirt. I contacted the store about it. They don't plan to reprint it ''until enough people request it'':
<pre>We will count your email as a "vote" for bringing back the Homsar T-shirt.</pre>
So, I'm just a friendly reminder. If more people want the Homsar shirt, [mailto:store@homestarrunner.com go tell 'em].

''Status update''
<pre>He'll be back again around the end of March.</pre>
'nuff said.

== Collaborative Community Project ==

It's been awhile since we've done a community project, but I think it's about time for another one. I've been wanting to work on Store for a long time, so I thought this would be a good way to get something done with it. A couple of things that need to be done:

==={{done}} Images===
All of the images now follow the [[HRWiki:Image use policy|image use policy]].

==={{done}} Updating [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and [[Flash Store]] ===
Both [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and the [[Flash Store]] have been updated with the correct images.

==={{done}} Different pages for each type of product===
This is what I've been wanting to do for a long time. Instead of one massive Store article, I think it'd be nice to have different pages for each type of article: <nowiki>[[Store T-Shirts]], [[Store Toys]],</nowiki> etc. This would make [[Store]] much shorter, and it'd be easier to keep up with and archive the different descriptions for each product, which change around some. This is just an idea, of course, and I'd like to see some different opinons on it.

If you have any other ideas, feel free to suggest them here as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 06:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

: I went ahead and started editing the page based on your suggestion. Is this what you were thinking of, or did I screw up? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::It looks fine to me, AtionSong. If you weren't about to do so, I'm going to continue creating in this fashion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::: I'll Work from the bottom up to avoid edit conflicts. Can you start at the top? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I would be happy to. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

It looks like we did a good job! The page looks much better now. Oh, and I'm impressed that in the middle of all this editing, you STILL have time to welcome a new user. Wow. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:When you're on the welcoming committee, you don't pass up a new user often. You did a very nice job as well. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::Good work, juys! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

==={{done}} ID Tags===

Don't forget, many of the id tags are linked to from various parts of the site, especially [[H*R.com updates 2006|H*R updates]]. Make sure you either leave them be, or update their links. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:I think this will be the last thing we need to do. If we can knock this out, I think we'll be done! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::What do these things ''do''? I've been trying to figure that out, but am stumped. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::For linking to a specific part of a table, for instance the Floppy Disk Container. Compare [[Floppy Disk Container]] to [[Floppy Disk Container#tongue of the fatman]] or [[Floppy Disk Container#spy vs spy]]. Usually we can use section breaks (<nowiki>== Section or ===Section===</nowiki>), but in the case of tables we need to "id tag them" so we can link to a specific point. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::::DONE! '''<tt>[[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|ŢɦųηɗəřÞìɤɖ]][[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>''' 00:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

===Other Comments===
==== Separation ====
I really should make a seperate table for Items not avalible anymore. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:Do you have any images of them? It'd be really nice to get some. {{User:FireBird/sig}}
::I meant like the red the cheat shirt {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

::If you mean making a seperate section for T-Shirts that currently aren't available, we already [[Store#Currently not available|have one]], but it isn't a table. I thought you meant the [[Store#No Longer Available|No Longer Available]] section of Freebies. (BTW, The red The Cheat shirt is still available to buy.) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I can't find the TGS hoodie on the store {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

==== Long and Clunky ====
Is it just me or does this page just seem awkward to navigate through? I'm not sure what to do about it but it just doesnt seem to fit. {{User:DBK/sig}} 02:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree, although, I think it's at it's navigation acme. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Store news archive ==

[[http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/ wayback machine for hr store]]
the wayback machine has the front page news from.. wayback. there are pages for 2005 news and 2006 news but why not '04, '03, '02?--[[User:Collin|Collin]] 01:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. Can someone with more free time add these? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Edit Links ==

Is it just me, or when you click on an edit link, does it take you to the next section down? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:No, this is a pretty long standing bug in MediaWiki (that so far isn't fixed in 1.6) which causes this to happen if either A.) a section is created with the HTML <h''x''> tags or B.) there is something on the same line as the section header outside the equals signs. I'm-a-go fix that right now. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Couldn't find it after going through some of the recent revisions, so I think it might have been just you. Disclaimer: I could always be wrong. I'll check some more when I get back from class. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Nope, couldn't find it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Musical Shirts ==

The page mentions musical shirts, but isn't that version of the store off the site?
:The original musical shirt selection on the [[Flash Store]] is gone, but the current store T-shirt page has a smaller rendition of the musical lineup. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Oh. My bad.
:::(For way more on those musical shirts than you or your grandmother could possibly want, see [[User talk:AbdiViklas#T-shirt pitches|my talk page]]!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== What's wrong? ==

What's wrong with the Store page? I think it look's good. It has alot of information, and everything look's in place. What's wrong with it?
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]

: The Cleanup is old. We already cleaned it up. The template is from a few days ago from before we did. A sysop should take that notice down. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

::Actually, AtionSong, there's a final bit of work to be completed. Since we've moved the products to seperate pages, all anchored links the store are now, in effect, broken. Currently, [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is on this, but feel free to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Store|pitch in]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::If TBird is on top of the ID links, are we all set to take the notice off recentchangesnotice and The Stick, Lapper? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

== History of the store ==

I was wondering if there could/should be a section on the history of the store. Was it always there and how did it grow? I think it would be an interesting section to add to the page, if possible. --[[User:Positatewithoutpizzaz|Positatewithoutpizzaz]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, there was the [[Flash Store]], and now there's this one. That's all I know. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Why $14.95 for ladies? ==

Why does it cost more?--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 22:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yes!! ==

Yes!! I saw a store update before the wiki did!! Woohoo!! ...sorry, I've just always wanted to do that before. Please don't spoil my fun. :P

== Official store in Atlanta? ==

I was headed to Atlanta this week and assumed there would be a store (or retailer) in their hometown. Is there any place there that sells merchandise?
:The homestarrunner.com store licenses select independent retail establishments to sell some of their merchandise based on [[HRStore:reop.html|these conditions]]. The list of those retailers is located [[HRStore:storelocator.html|here]]. There is only one store in Georgia, and it is in Athens. There remains one ''official'' store, and it is on the [[HRStore:|Internet]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Amazon.com ==

I noticed a few [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] items for sale on [http://amazon.com Amazon.com]:
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009811ZG B0009811ZG] [[strongbad_email.exe]] (for $25.99; in the [[Store]] it's "Reg. price: $29.95 Sale price: $26.96")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BB7C1S B000BB7C1S] [[strongbad email.exe Disc Four]] (for $10.99; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007R6JOM B0007R6JOM] [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]] (for $11.98; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $10.00 Sale Price: $9.00")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3GNKO B000E3GNKO] [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] ("8 used & new available from $8.97"; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
The first three say "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com."

I'm not sure how notable or interesting this is, but I figured I'd post it here regardless. Thoughts? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Very interesting to say the least. I'd say notable if we can find out the story behind Amazon selling this stuff. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::Note how Everything Else Vol. 1 is only "available from these sellers", however. All the others are sold from Amazon directly. (And Volume 2 doesn't appear to be anywhere.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pirated merchandise watch ==

From an email exchange between myself and [[Karen Wagner]]:
<tt><blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 01:03:39 -0400 
From: Tom Preuss <tom@hrwiki.org> 
To: Karen Wagner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
 
Hi Karen, 
 
I just wanted to bring 
http://www.blackmarkettoronto.com/shoppingCart/addCart.php?pID=1293 to 
your attention. I'm not sure if you can cease and desist them or 
anything, but I figured you would be the person to contact for that. 
 
Best regards, 
 
Tom Preuss</blockquote>
and
<blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:06:23 -0700 (PDT) 
From: HomestarRunner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
To: tom@hrwiki.org 
 
Tom, 
 
Thanks for the info! We are grateful to fans like you who watch out for pirated merchandise. Here's a coupon for your trouble. 
 
[removed] 
 
Type the code in the "Coupon or Promotional Code" box during checkout and $3.00 will be deducted from your merchandise total of $30.00 or more. In fact, if you want to spread the word around the hrwiki that we're giving out coupons to those who bring these types of thing to our attention, that would be great. 
 
Thanks again, 
Karen Wagner</blockquote></tt>
Just a little FYI. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar shirt preview ==

I was just browsing the store when I noticed that the preview for the Homsar shirt was in a Flash file. Namely, [[Videlectrix:storeflash/shirt_homsar.swf|here]]. It's pretty weird that it's hosted on the Videlectrix site, and not on the main one, or the Yahoo store. Anyways, does anybody know when it was added, and if so, how and where do we mention it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks to [http://www.archive.org archive.org], I have found out that is was put up sometime after June 22, 2007. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 18:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::The shirt was re-introduced in Nov 2007, according to [[Store T-shirts]]. Whether that Flash file was there then or not, I don't know. I know it was there pre-Christmas, though, since I encountered it then (sometime within a week before Dec 25). That probably doesn't help. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Recently read that some people have [[Talk:environment#Release date|the power]] to see when files were "last modified" .. that might help, eh? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bad Math ==
Currently, the store lists the Strong Bad overkill combo as being '''$63.95''' separately. I don't know about anyone else, but I do the math as follows: Strong Bad Emails 3 Disc DVD Set '''$29.95 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 4 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 5 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Sings CD '''$12 = $65.95'''. I don't quite know how to phrase a goof like this, so I invite some talented soul to do so. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's a common practice to throw in a small discount on combo packs in stores to sell the items... otherwise, why buy the combo, instead of just buying the individual items? -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::Wait... reread your post, and think I may have the answer... it's '''still''' a goof, though! Take out the price for the Strong Bad Sings CD (Note that the store says "'''FREE'' Strong Bad Sings CD"), and you get $'''5'''3.95 as the price individually. Still a goof, but just a 5 instead of a 6. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

==Correct bottom animation?==
Am I the only one that gets the wrong animation on the bottom of the store site? I get the Autumn animation, but January is clearly not Autumn. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Yahoo Store

StarLion — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:18:27 GMT

StarLion: /* Bad Math */

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== Freebies 1 ==
We need to list all the Freebies you can get with your order. As far as the keychains go, I only know of the Strongbadia Stop sign. --[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Wierd, cause i only know the homestar one. I have 2 of them. lol Is the strongbadia stopsign shaped like a star also, but with homestar's head replaced with the sign? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

:No, the [[Stop Sign]] keychain looks like the Stop Sign. It is shaped like the Stop Sign. I think it has www.homestarrunner.com on the back, written in white. I've actually lost mine, so I'll have to find it. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 01:23, 22 August 2005 (BST)

I seriously think that they should make plushies of Strong Bad, Homestar and the rest of the dudes, don't you? - [[Miss Free Country USA]]

== Clean up ==
===Re-writing===
This page really needs major work, especially in the updating-to-the-new-page department. I think we could also have a section or maybe another page for the Flash store page that they just recently stopped using.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, it was done for the [[FAQ]] and the [[Email FAQ]]. Any ideas for the title of the old store page? I was thinking either "Old Store" or "Flash Store". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:10, 23 May 2005 (BST)

Do you want them to be organized (the items) as they are in the store? -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 20:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey guys, check out my new cosplay! I mean, my [[User:Homestar_Coder/Store|Store revamp]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:41, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

===Orphaned Image===

Until a new section of this article (or a new article altogether) is created, the following is a screenshot of the "old" flash-based store that is no longer linked to any part of the site. I am including it here so it doesn't get "lost in the shuffle": [[Image:store_screenshot.png|100px]] {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

I'm not seeing this 'Dancing Homestar' easter egg... Is this confirmed? Can it be clarified at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:37, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yep. Certainly there. Try using "Tab". {{User:FireBird/sig}}

: It doesn't work on firefox for whatever reason however [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]

:: Didn't work at first. Refreshed it and worked like a charm (in FireFox). [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 21:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Works for me. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Works for me in Firefox 1.0.4. {{User:FireBird/sig}}

:::::how wierd! I refreshed and it works fine now! O_o

:::::: Amazing!!! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 07:35, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, figured that out (used Internet Explorer), but now I'm stuck on the other one. Where can I view the time at Bub's (the other easter egg)? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:Switch you computer clock to, say, ten o' clock and it will be night at Bubs'. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 12:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:: Just like in [[Population: Tire]]. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

::Ah, I see. CLARIFIE'D!!!! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I looked at some scripts and i found that the ones that can change backrounds have three. The nighttime is displayed between 7pm and 4am, the sunrise/sunset between 4am and 6am, also between 6pm and 7pm, and the rest daytime. So, starting at 12 am, from 12am to 4am nighttime, 4am-6am sunrise, 6am-6pm daylight, 6pm-7pm sunset, and 7pm-12am nighttime. Sunrise and sunset are identical, the ones that change are Bubsness and Song.
Also, this is the first use of my new signature: {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:22, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

For those of us late to the party: 'Dancing Homestar' Easter egg? Where? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:Oh wait, click the D. I found it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Random Troll, Maybe? ==

Why are the lyrics to "The Cheat" written SMACKDAB in the middle of "Out of Production" and "Toys" like someone trolled the page like a brainless n00b? (Not newb, as in a new guy, n00b as in an idiot) [[User:Mashi|Mashi]] 15:40, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

== Transcribed? ==

I'd like to give a whack at transcribing the product descriptions (actually just copy 'n' paste). Would that make the page too cluttery? Maybe we could make a table with the product pictures and descriptions. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== The last shirt. ==

The last tone on the shirts in the old store... Am I crazy or is that one not actually Homestar? It doesn't sound like a human voice to me.

== Other retailers? ==

Hi all,
I sell H*R stuff in Australia. Would it be appropreate to link my site on the wiki?

I'm not completly sure of wiki-etiquette!

- [[User:Twos|Phil]]

: MAYBE on your User page (if you have one); nowhere else. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[mailto:store@homestarrunner.com You could ask the Brothers Chaps] to mention your place at their [[HRStore:storelocator.html|store locator]], but right now they only list American and Canadian stores. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 17:11, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== nothing but products. ==

Proof that Homestarrunner.com is becoming nothing more than a commercial product.
: Uh... it's a Store page... is there a point here I'm missing? I've been seeing a lot of odd comments from regular users here all of a sudden... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Hasn't the Store page been there for years? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I don't know about you, but I like the updates once a week. If they didn't have a store, they'd have to get a job and the 'toons would not be released as often. They have to get money from some where! {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Legal Question ==

Can I obtain Strong Bad's face (for example), print it, go to my local T-shirt printer and do my own shirt? It will be only for personal use and I wouldn't make a dime out of this. Is it legal? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:50, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As long as you don't sell it commercially, I don't think. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:You don't think it's legal, or you don't think it will be a problam? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 02:27, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No, it's not legal. TBC have given the rights to reproduce their characters to the company that prints their shirts, and producing your own shirt undermines their ability to turn a profit. Now, as long as you don't ''sell'' your shirt (I'm assuming we're talking about ''one'' copy), you probably won't attract much notice. But you asked whether it was legal, not whether you would likely be prosecuted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:OK, now I get it. Thanks. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:26, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC) (And yeah.. I already made one :P)

==Hey Thanks==

I just found out an easter egg if you buy something at the store. It is called Hey, Thanks! Can someone make an article and make the article. It is a real toon. In order for you to view it, you must buy somethig. If you type in the URL, it has somnething with Strong Bad, instead of Homestar and Marzy. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:For all who are doubting, he link is [https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html], but Strong Bad gives a message about "sneaking in the back door". I have yet to buy something from the real store, so I have not seen the actually "Thanks" toon. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:37, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, here is a link to my recently ordered [https://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-thank-you?oid=homestarrunner-297528&vwoidc=61e2b415d863af1129ad&unique=15fcb&vwxide=4145791290.260be04ef173dff8f180f25f1f95278c&catalog=homestarrunner&et=42e166d3&basket=b%3D5C518088d800d68942e158da6dbb0508088d86443ffcf27217b04be1c9c9a8562%26l%3D%26s%3DVADDZWbQ2xhZiERhQCwNGHT1fcU-] figurine thing. Click the continue button. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:::Cool. And it looks like they use a bit of JavaScript to check where you are coming from on the "heythanks" page. I found five more files from references in the "sneaking in the back door" flash file:
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_celegante.swf thankyou_celegante.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bubsness.swf thankyou_bubsness.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_song.swf thankyou_song.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_cinnamon.swf thankyou_cinnamon.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bonus.swf thankyou_bonus.swf]
:::but I can't figure out if they are supposed to do anything yet or not.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:13, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::So, should we add this as an easter egg, or should we make an article. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:Tom: those are the direct Flash files for each "thank-you" message- there is more than one. Five, to be exact, if you count the "back door" message. Using Leader's "Continue" link, I've managed to see three of them- all except "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:05, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Your computer's clock has to be set to late night to see the "cinnamon" one. Is "bonus" the one with Strong Bad telling you to buy something? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Jay- "bonus.swf" is the back-door message.
:Anyone- Transcripts of these messages can be found [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=150347&highlight=#150347 here]. Note that I jotted them down quickly, especially "bubsness.swf", so they may be wrong. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:32, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Transcripts of all but the Bubsness message were already on the Store page. The "celgegante" message appears automatically after you see the "bubsness" message enough times, so I screwed up transcribing the Bubsness message by seeing it too many times. I'm using your version now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Cool. Looks like "song.swf" can be played during the day or at night. Changing my clock to around 11:00 p.m. shows that message at night. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:39, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Uh... in my testing, it replaced "celegante" in the same fashion that it replaces "bubsness", and when my clock was set to late at night (later than 11 PM) it ALWAYS gave me cinnamon.swf. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:41, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. Must be more than one "late night" toon. Seems as though even if I set my clock late, I still get "song.swf", only at night. I still can't get "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:43, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::::: That's because you're not setting it late enough. Try 3 AM. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:47, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. Got it. Semi-late night gives you the "song.swf" (at night), and late-late night gives you "cinnamon.swf". Cool. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:50, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: No no no, my clock is (correctly) reading 2:50 PM and I'm getting song.swf. I'm quite convinced that song.swf totally replaces celegante.swf after you see the latter enough times. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::You're sort of right. It goes in time order: bubsness.swf, celegante.swf, song.swf, song.swf (at night), and then cinnamon.swf. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:54, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: I think I'm getting a loop. I got Bubsness at night (set to 11:52 PM). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:55, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, it's a loop. Except at late night, it goes Bubness for a few rounds, then Celegante, and then Song, and then it starts over. At late night, it's ONLY Cinnamon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Well, further testing is helping nothing—I just went straight from Bubsness to Song. But I am quite convinced that (aside from cinnamon.swf) none of them have anything to do with the time on your clock. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:03, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::Doesn't look like it. song.swf will play with a night-time background if late enough, though. Cinnamon only plays at night, song will play at night (but not late) or day, and the other two only play in the day. Right? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:06, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Wrong. Like I said, I saw Bubsness at 11:50 PM (it was darkened but otherwise the same.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. I think I got it. Apparently (as far as we know) celegante can only be seen during the day, song and bubsness can be seen during either, and cinnamon can only be seen at night. Now am I right? :) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: So far, that's as much as we know. Personally, I suspect that Celegante can be seen at not-so-late night, but currently I haven't seen it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:21, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I think that celegante cam only be accsesed in midday, song and bubsness can only be seen at midday and night, and cinnamon must be after midnight. and I never knew that Strong Bad smoked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
:I can't get them to work [[Mini-Trogdor]]

::During the song one, on Marzipan's guitar, it doesn't say Carol on it. Should I put that as one of the goofs or something? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Flash software==
Speaking of, what's the best software to use to view Flash files directly? I've looked all around this wiki but I've never come across a name. A Google search gives results, but I don't know which one to pick. Pause. Rewind. Fast forward. Resize/Zoom. View source code. See behind the black. Any or all of these features would be preferable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I can get all of those features except the source code from simply watching the .swf file of any 'toon (we link them on every page.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:23, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Riiight... but what ''software'' do you use? Do you watch it straight from IE? Firefox? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::: IE. Right-click the toon to see all the features. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, I've been using IE for a ''while'' now to view .swf files, and not being able to jump ahead, or to move forward or backward more than one frame at a time, just isn't cutting it. I need something more advanced. Some people mention a "seek bar", which tells me there is software out there that is better than just plain ol' IE. Is it Flash developer software? Is it expensive? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Try [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html here] [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::::::It's dot com: I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler]. The demo doesn't expire. Being just a demo, it doesn't allow you to decompile much, but as a viewer it works great. Oh, and you can see the scripts and inner workings all cool-like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Thank you Ed and Tom! — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 21:17, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::About that Flash Decompiler, I know this might seem like a stupid question, but how do u view .swf files on there? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:48, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I can type a URL directly in where the filename would go in the Open dialog box. Otherwise, you could right-click on the link to the Flash file and save it to your computer and then open it locally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Oh, thanx! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:33, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Store Revamp ==

I noticed [[User:mibluvr13|mib]] revamped the article. It looks great, but I think it could use some improvement, especially the "Accesories" section. The pictures stretch the screen on smaller screens, and I think it'd look nice if most, if not all, of the products were tables with the "closeup" feature on all of them. I also don't really like the direct images from the actual Homestar Runner Store. I think they could use some editing (and better quality). If the whole thing was a table, it wouldn't look so cluttered and messy, but easy on the eyes and not as difficult to read. My two cents. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:07, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Freebies ==
What do the freebies look like (particularly the big freebie, the keychain)? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:33, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The keychain is the basically looks like this [http://groups.msn.com/bkmlb/stuff.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=27 this] and on the back in white writing is homestarrunner.com--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] 22:46, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:But what about that other one described? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::The other keychain is the shape of a star. The front has a red border with Homestar Runner in the middle, and the back has three smaller stars with the words "homestarrunner.com" in red writing. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:21, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

They have the Homestar one that is white, shaped like a star, has a picture of homestar on it, a red border, and says the site adress in red on the back. The Strongbadia one is red, shaped like a stop sign (octagon), has the word 'STOP' in white on it, with 'STRONGBADIA, POP: TIRE' in a spraypainted black font written overtop, and has the site adress in white on the back. I don't know of any others! --dayve_57, 1 Oct 2005

Here's a tidbit: on the order confirmation/acknowledgement emails, Big Freebie A is the homestar keychain, and Big Freebie B is the stop sign... I think. I haven't got my order yet but I noticed that I got a different freebie, supposedly... so I think that is how you know which you got. -[[User:Jenny|Jenny]] 21:13, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

:Yup, that's right. And it's now *finally* noted in the newly organized [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. Thanks Jenny, sharp eye. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== shirts in the shirt songs no longer available ==

I went ahead and deleted the goof about the 2 shirts not available anymore out, since it was just recently replaced with the new ones.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

== Kick The Cheat coming back? ==

"The Cheat Doll will be back later this month." How do we know this? Is it in the Store somewhere? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:28, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== No longer available ==

I know that you have a section for some of the T-shirt that aren't available anymore, but I was thinking that it might be cool to have a section where it says some of the other things that used to be available in the store such as the tattoos and the Strongbadia Floaty Pen. Thanks!

:I see the classic navy Homestar shirt listed in the unavailable items. Why aren't there images for these? This shirt in particular is one of the most important pieces of merchandise TBC have ever produced. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The white Homestar Classic is conspicuously absent as well. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:17, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::There aren't images for them because nobody made them yet. :p Seriously, I've been meaning to get images for that stuff from archives of old store pages and the old Flash store. Thanks for the reminder. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:26, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Shirt Songs==

http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/tshirts1.html

here is how to play the most known part of Ode To Joy on the shirts in the store.

The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black,
The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman,
Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, Strong Bad Head.

have fun.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Super Store 64 ===
{{stufffact|The "Thank You" page's page title is "Thank you so much for to buying our crap!" This is a reference to the phrase Mario says at the end of [[Wikipedia:Super Mario 64|Super Mario 64]]: "Thank you so much for to playing my game!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:54, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)|03:13, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|17|0|Store}}

== Ow! My browser! ==

Man, this page kills on slow computers. Maybe we should split up the items, much like [[Sightings]] ("Store T-shirts", "Store Toys", etc.)? The Store article also looks very, very cluttered and hard to read the way it is. Any ideas? Anyone else want to tackle this? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I agree that this page does look cluttered and we probably should divide this article into muliple pages like T-shirts and Toys. And for the recent changes to the "Front Page", perhaps we could note the difference between text updates instead of quoting verbatim the many "COMING SOON!" sections that say almost exactly the same thing using different words. Does this sound re-zon-able? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== Floaty Pen ==

Does anyone have a picture of it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hmmm... I'ma gonna start hunting. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Store Autumn thing ==

The updates page said that the change to the autumn theme was today, but I remember seeing it a couple days ago. [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]] 18:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's possible, but the last time I visited it was like three days ago. And it was normal. So it probably changed some time since then. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== New Shirts ==

There are new shirts in the store that aren't on this page.
:Nckinfn04, sometimes you just have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=207767&oldid=207029 wait it out]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== Layout stuff ==

I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 think] there are a couple of layout things that need to be discussed.
#The [[Store#T-Shirts|T-Shirts]] section table looks great except for the Sizes column. Currently, only one row has all the sizes listed and really it looks unsightly. I'd do away with the entire column if it was me and think of a different way of listing these (perhaps an extra <code>colspan</code>'d row below each entry).
#Also, the '''20X6 Stinko Man Shirt!!!''' pictures should have the red '''20X6''' box removed from them.
#I'm not sure what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 updates] table is referred to here. But tables are generally good.
#It's been discussed or at least mentioned before that this page be broken up. Should it? It's not as big as i thought it was but it sure is sizeable. Regardless, the layout of the products and their description is not yet consistent among sections.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Store Screenshot ==

I took a screenshot of the store using Firefox and [https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1146&application=firefox Screen Grab] that shows the whole page, rather than just the part that showed up in Fahooglewitz's window. If you guy's like it, feel free to use it instead.
[http://jaredandaubrey.net/images/blog_pics/hrstore.png The Screenshot]

== Cleanup ==

This page needs to be cleaned up. The tables are okay, but it clashes with the other items and descriptions. It needs to be cleaned up, and maybe sorted into subpages. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have posted some of my suggestions [[Talk:Store#Layout_stuff|here]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well I cleaned up the [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. That's been bugging me for a long time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

===Update===

:Okay, I spent quite a while cleaning up the store. How does it look now? If it's good enough, then I'd like to add the id tags like we did with the Floppy Disk Container, and move over the links to the store from the [[H*R.com updates 2000|updates]] series of articles to ones straight to the store page here. Maybe leave the current links straight to the store for now, but since the links get out of dated, I'd like to switch most of them over to a permanent solution here. But I don't want to get started on that unless everybody agrees this page is good enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}

:Well, no opposition here. I'm saying it's cleaned up enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::Nice Job Thunderbird and you definitely put in lots of work into that page! I do have two questions though: I didn't quite understand what you meant to do when you said you were gonna add id tages like the Floppy Disk container to change some links... what links specifically were you going to change? Can you provide examples? Also, there's still open the suggestion of breaking this into several pages. What you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I just timed how long it took Firefox to load this page over dial-up (I noticed it was takaing a while, so I pressed Ctrl+Shift+R with one eye on the clock) and it took 10:41. That's in mm:ss. That's ridiculous. Some of these images could probably benefit from PNG optimization. Argh! MS Paint in WinME can't do that. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman ringer ==

Why was the Stinkoman ringer t-shirt discontinued shortly after it was out?

Not sure. Maybe it didn't sell very much. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar update (update..'d) ==

Just a small update on the Homsar t-shirt. I contacted the store about it. They don't plan to reprint it ''until enough people request it'':
<pre>We will count your email as a "vote" for bringing back the Homsar T-shirt.</pre>
So, I'm just a friendly reminder. If more people want the Homsar shirt, [mailto:store@homestarrunner.com go tell 'em].

''Status update''
<pre>He'll be back again around the end of March.</pre>
'nuff said.

== Collaborative Community Project ==

It's been awhile since we've done a community project, but I think it's about time for another one. I've been wanting to work on Store for a long time, so I thought this would be a good way to get something done with it. A couple of things that need to be done:

==={{done}} Images===
All of the images now follow the [[HRWiki:Image use policy|image use policy]].

==={{done}} Updating [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and [[Flash Store]] ===
Both [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and the [[Flash Store]] have been updated with the correct images.

==={{done}} Different pages for each type of product===
This is what I've been wanting to do for a long time. Instead of one massive Store article, I think it'd be nice to have different pages for each type of article: <nowiki>[[Store T-Shirts]], [[Store Toys]],</nowiki> etc. This would make [[Store]] much shorter, and it'd be easier to keep up with and archive the different descriptions for each product, which change around some. This is just an idea, of course, and I'd like to see some different opinons on it.

If you have any other ideas, feel free to suggest them here as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 06:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

: I went ahead and started editing the page based on your suggestion. Is this what you were thinking of, or did I screw up? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::It looks fine to me, AtionSong. If you weren't about to do so, I'm going to continue creating in this fashion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::: I'll Work from the bottom up to avoid edit conflicts. Can you start at the top? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I would be happy to. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

It looks like we did a good job! The page looks much better now. Oh, and I'm impressed that in the middle of all this editing, you STILL have time to welcome a new user. Wow. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:When you're on the welcoming committee, you don't pass up a new user often. You did a very nice job as well. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::Good work, juys! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

==={{done}} ID Tags===

Don't forget, many of the id tags are linked to from various parts of the site, especially [[H*R.com updates 2006|H*R updates]]. Make sure you either leave them be, or update their links. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:I think this will be the last thing we need to do. If we can knock this out, I think we'll be done! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::What do these things ''do''? I've been trying to figure that out, but am stumped. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::For linking to a specific part of a table, for instance the Floppy Disk Container. Compare [[Floppy Disk Container]] to [[Floppy Disk Container#tongue of the fatman]] or [[Floppy Disk Container#spy vs spy]]. Usually we can use section breaks (<nowiki>== Section or ===Section===</nowiki>), but in the case of tables we need to "id tag them" so we can link to a specific point. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::::DONE! '''<tt>[[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|ŢɦųηɗəřÞìɤɖ]][[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>''' 00:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

===Other Comments===
==== Separation ====
I really should make a seperate table for Items not avalible anymore. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:Do you have any images of them? It'd be really nice to get some. {{User:FireBird/sig}}
::I meant like the red the cheat shirt {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

::If you mean making a seperate section for T-Shirts that currently aren't available, we already [[Store#Currently not available|have one]], but it isn't a table. I thought you meant the [[Store#No Longer Available|No Longer Available]] section of Freebies. (BTW, The red The Cheat shirt is still available to buy.) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I can't find the TGS hoodie on the store {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

==== Long and Clunky ====
Is it just me or does this page just seem awkward to navigate through? I'm not sure what to do about it but it just doesnt seem to fit. {{User:DBK/sig}} 02:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree, although, I think it's at it's navigation acme. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Store news archive ==

[[http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/ wayback machine for hr store]]
the wayback machine has the front page news from.. wayback. there are pages for 2005 news and 2006 news but why not '04, '03, '02?--[[User:Collin|Collin]] 01:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. Can someone with more free time add these? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Edit Links ==

Is it just me, or when you click on an edit link, does it take you to the next section down? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:No, this is a pretty long standing bug in MediaWiki (that so far isn't fixed in 1.6) which causes this to happen if either A.) a section is created with the HTML <h''x''> tags or B.) there is something on the same line as the section header outside the equals signs. I'm-a-go fix that right now. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Couldn't find it after going through some of the recent revisions, so I think it might have been just you. Disclaimer: I could always be wrong. I'll check some more when I get back from class. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Nope, couldn't find it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Musical Shirts ==

The page mentions musical shirts, but isn't that version of the store off the site?
:The original musical shirt selection on the [[Flash Store]] is gone, but the current store T-shirt page has a smaller rendition of the musical lineup. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Oh. My bad.
:::(For way more on those musical shirts than you or your grandmother could possibly want, see [[User talk:AbdiViklas#T-shirt pitches|my talk page]]!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== What's wrong? ==

What's wrong with the Store page? I think it look's good. It has alot of information, and everything look's in place. What's wrong with it?
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]

: The Cleanup is old. We already cleaned it up. The template is from a few days ago from before we did. A sysop should take that notice down. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

::Actually, AtionSong, there's a final bit of work to be completed. Since we've moved the products to seperate pages, all anchored links the store are now, in effect, broken. Currently, [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is on this, but feel free to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Store|pitch in]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::If TBird is on top of the ID links, are we all set to take the notice off recentchangesnotice and The Stick, Lapper? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

== History of the store ==

I was wondering if there could/should be a section on the history of the store. Was it always there and how did it grow? I think it would be an interesting section to add to the page, if possible. --[[User:Positatewithoutpizzaz|Positatewithoutpizzaz]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, there was the [[Flash Store]], and now there's this one. That's all I know. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Why $14.95 for ladies? ==

Why does it cost more?--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 22:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yes!! ==

Yes!! I saw a store update before the wiki did!! Woohoo!! ...sorry, I've just always wanted to do that before. Please don't spoil my fun. :P

== Official store in Atlanta? ==

I was headed to Atlanta this week and assumed there would be a store (or retailer) in their hometown. Is there any place there that sells merchandise?
:The homestarrunner.com store licenses select independent retail establishments to sell some of their merchandise based on [[HRStore:reop.html|these conditions]]. The list of those retailers is located [[HRStore:storelocator.html|here]]. There is only one store in Georgia, and it is in Athens. There remains one ''official'' store, and it is on the [[HRStore:|Internet]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Amazon.com ==

I noticed a few [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] items for sale on [http://amazon.com Amazon.com]:
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009811ZG B0009811ZG] [[strongbad_email.exe]] (for $25.99; in the [[Store]] it's "Reg. price: $29.95 Sale price: $26.96")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BB7C1S B000BB7C1S] [[strongbad email.exe Disc Four]] (for $10.99; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007R6JOM B0007R6JOM] [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]] (for $11.98; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $10.00 Sale Price: $9.00")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3GNKO B000E3GNKO] [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] ("8 used & new available from $8.97"; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
The first three say "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com."

I'm not sure how notable or interesting this is, but I figured I'd post it here regardless. Thoughts? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Very interesting to say the least. I'd say notable if we can find out the story behind Amazon selling this stuff. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::Note how Everything Else Vol. 1 is only "available from these sellers", however. All the others are sold from Amazon directly. (And Volume 2 doesn't appear to be anywhere.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pirated merchandise watch ==

From an email exchange between myself and [[Karen Wagner]]:
<tt><blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 01:03:39 -0400 
From: Tom Preuss <tom@hrwiki.org> 
To: Karen Wagner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
 
Hi Karen, 
 
I just wanted to bring 
http://www.blackmarkettoronto.com/shoppingCart/addCart.php?pID=1293 to 
your attention. I'm not sure if you can cease and desist them or 
anything, but I figured you would be the person to contact for that. 
 
Best regards, 
 
Tom Preuss</blockquote>
and
<blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:06:23 -0700 (PDT) 
From: HomestarRunner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
To: tom@hrwiki.org 
 
Tom, 
 
Thanks for the info! We are grateful to fans like you who watch out for pirated merchandise. Here's a coupon for your trouble. 
 
[removed] 
 
Type the code in the "Coupon or Promotional Code" box during checkout and $3.00 will be deducted from your merchandise total of $30.00 or more. In fact, if you want to spread the word around the hrwiki that we're giving out coupons to those who bring these types of thing to our attention, that would be great. 
 
Thanks again, 
Karen Wagner</blockquote></tt>
Just a little FYI. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar shirt preview ==

I was just browsing the store when I noticed that the preview for the Homsar shirt was in a Flash file. Namely, [[Videlectrix:storeflash/shirt_homsar.swf|here]]. It's pretty weird that it's hosted on the Videlectrix site, and not on the main one, or the Yahoo store. Anyways, does anybody know when it was added, and if so, how and where do we mention it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks to [http://www.archive.org archive.org], I have found out that is was put up sometime after June 22, 2007. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 18:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::The shirt was re-introduced in Nov 2007, according to [[Store T-shirts]]. Whether that Flash file was there then or not, I don't know. I know it was there pre-Christmas, though, since I encountered it then (sometime within a week before Dec 25). That probably doesn't help. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Recently read that some people have [[Talk:environment#Release date|the power]] to see when files were "last modified" .. that might help, eh? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bad Math ==
Currently, the store lists the Strong Bad overkill combo as being '''$63.95''' separately. I don't know about anyone else, but I do the math as follows: Strong Bad Emails 3 Disc DVD Set '''$29.95 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 4 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 5 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Sings CD '''$12 = $65.95'''. I don't quite know how to phrase a goof like this, so I invite some talented soul to do so. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's a common practice to throw in a small discount on combo packs in stores to sell the items... otherwise, why buy the combo, instead of just buying the individual items? -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::Wait... reread your post, and think I may have the answer... it's '''still''' a goof, though! Take out the price for the Strong Bad Sings CD (Note that the store says "'''FREE'' Strong Bad Sings CD"), and you get $'''5'''3.95 as the price individually. Still a goof, but just a 5 instead of a 6.

==Correct bottom animation?==
Am I the only one that gets the wrong animation on the bottom of the store site? I get the Autumn animation, but January is clearly not Autumn. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Yahoo Store

StarLion — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:09:05 GMT

StarLion: /*Bottom Animation*/

{{featuredarticle}}
== Freebies 1 ==
We need to list all the Freebies you can get with your order. As far as the keychains go, I only know of the Strongbadia Stop sign. --[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Wierd, cause i only know the homestar one. I have 2 of them. lol Is the strongbadia stopsign shaped like a star also, but with homestar's head replaced with the sign? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

:No, the [[Stop Sign]] keychain looks like the Stop Sign. It is shaped like the Stop Sign. I think it has www.homestarrunner.com on the back, written in white. I've actually lost mine, so I'll have to find it. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 01:23, 22 August 2005 (BST)

I seriously think that they should make plushies of Strong Bad, Homestar and the rest of the dudes, don't you? - [[Miss Free Country USA]]

== Clean up ==
===Re-writing===
This page really needs major work, especially in the updating-to-the-new-page department. I think we could also have a section or maybe another page for the Flash store page that they just recently stopped using.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, it was done for the [[FAQ]] and the [[Email FAQ]]. Any ideas for the title of the old store page? I was thinking either "Old Store" or "Flash Store". --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:10, 23 May 2005 (BST)

Do you want them to be organized (the items) as they are in the store? -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 20:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey guys, check out my new cosplay! I mean, my [[User:Homestar_Coder/Store|Store revamp]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:41, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

===Orphaned Image===

Until a new section of this article (or a new article altogether) is created, the following is a screenshot of the "old" flash-based store that is no longer linked to any part of the site. I am including it here so it doesn't get "lost in the shuffle": [[Image:store_screenshot.png|100px]] {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

I'm not seeing this 'Dancing Homestar' easter egg... Is this confirmed? Can it be clarified at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:37, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yep. Certainly there. Try using "Tab". {{User:FireBird/sig}}

: It doesn't work on firefox for whatever reason however [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]

:: Didn't work at first. Refreshed it and worked like a charm (in FireFox). [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 21:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Works for me. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Works for me in Firefox 1.0.4. {{User:FireBird/sig}}

:::::how wierd! I refreshed and it works fine now! O_o

:::::: Amazing!!! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 07:35, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, figured that out (used Internet Explorer), but now I'm stuck on the other one. Where can I view the time at Bub's (the other easter egg)? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:Switch you computer clock to, say, ten o' clock and it will be night at Bubs'. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 12:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

:: Just like in [[Population: Tire]]. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

::Ah, I see. CLARIFIE'D!!!! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I looked at some scripts and i found that the ones that can change backrounds have three. The nighttime is displayed between 7pm and 4am, the sunrise/sunset between 4am and 6am, also between 6pm and 7pm, and the rest daytime. So, starting at 12 am, from 12am to 4am nighttime, 4am-6am sunrise, 6am-6pm daylight, 6pm-7pm sunset, and 7pm-12am nighttime. Sunrise and sunset are identical, the ones that change are Bubsness and Song.
Also, this is the first use of my new signature: {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:22, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

For those of us late to the party: 'Dancing Homestar' Easter egg? Where? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:Oh wait, click the D. I found it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Random Troll, Maybe? ==

Why are the lyrics to "The Cheat" written SMACKDAB in the middle of "Out of Production" and "Toys" like someone trolled the page like a brainless n00b? (Not newb, as in a new guy, n00b as in an idiot) [[User:Mashi|Mashi]] 15:40, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

== Transcribed? ==

I'd like to give a whack at transcribing the product descriptions (actually just copy 'n' paste). Would that make the page too cluttery? Maybe we could make a table with the product pictures and descriptions. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== The last shirt. ==

The last tone on the shirts in the old store... Am I crazy or is that one not actually Homestar? It doesn't sound like a human voice to me.

== Other retailers? ==

Hi all,
I sell H*R stuff in Australia. Would it be appropreate to link my site on the wiki?

I'm not completly sure of wiki-etiquette!

- [[User:Twos|Phil]]

: MAYBE on your User page (if you have one); nowhere else. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[mailto:store@homestarrunner.com You could ask the Brothers Chaps] to mention your place at their [[HRStore:storelocator.html|store locator]], but right now they only list American and Canadian stores. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 17:11, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== nothing but products. ==

Proof that Homestarrunner.com is becoming nothing more than a commercial product.
: Uh... it's a Store page... is there a point here I'm missing? I've been seeing a lot of odd comments from regular users here all of a sudden... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Hasn't the Store page been there for years? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I don't know about you, but I like the updates once a week. If they didn't have a store, they'd have to get a job and the 'toons would not be released as often. They have to get money from some where! {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Legal Question ==

Can I obtain Strong Bad's face (for example), print it, go to my local T-shirt printer and do my own shirt? It will be only for personal use and I wouldn't make a dime out of this. Is it legal? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:50, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As long as you don't sell it commercially, I don't think. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:You don't think it's legal, or you don't think it will be a problam? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 02:27, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No, it's not legal. TBC have given the rights to reproduce their characters to the company that prints their shirts, and producing your own shirt undermines their ability to turn a profit. Now, as long as you don't ''sell'' your shirt (I'm assuming we're talking about ''one'' copy), you probably won't attract much notice. But you asked whether it was legal, not whether you would likely be prosecuted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:OK, now I get it. Thanks. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:26, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC) (And yeah.. I already made one :P)

==Hey Thanks==

I just found out an easter egg if you buy something at the store. It is called Hey, Thanks! Can someone make an article and make the article. It is a real toon. In order for you to view it, you must buy somethig. If you type in the URL, it has somnething with Strong Bad, instead of Homestar and Marzy. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:For all who are doubting, he link is [https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html], but Strong Bad gives a message about "sneaking in the back door". I have yet to buy something from the real store, so I have not seen the actually "Thanks" toon. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:37, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, here is a link to my recently ordered [https://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-thank-you?oid=homestarrunner-297528&vwoidc=61e2b415d863af1129ad&unique=15fcb&vwxide=4145791290.260be04ef173dff8f180f25f1f95278c&catalog=homestarrunner&et=42e166d3&basket=b%3D5C518088d800d68942e158da6dbb0508088d86443ffcf27217b04be1c9c9a8562%26l%3D%26s%3DVADDZWbQ2xhZiERhQCwNGHT1fcU-] figurine thing. Click the continue button. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:::Cool. And it looks like they use a bit of JavaScript to check where you are coming from on the "heythanks" page. I found five more files from references in the "sneaking in the back door" flash file:
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_celegante.swf thankyou_celegante.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bubsness.swf thankyou_bubsness.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_song.swf thankyou_song.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_cinnamon.swf thankyou_cinnamon.swf]
:::#[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bonus.swf thankyou_bonus.swf]
:::but I can't figure out if they are supposed to do anything yet or not.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:13, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::So, should we add this as an easter egg, or should we make an article. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:Tom: those are the direct Flash files for each "thank-you" message- there is more than one. Five, to be exact, if you count the "back door" message. Using Leader's "Continue" link, I've managed to see three of them- all except "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:05, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Your computer's clock has to be set to late night to see the "cinnamon" one. Is "bonus" the one with Strong Bad telling you to buy something? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Jay- "bonus.swf" is the back-door message.
:Anyone- Transcripts of these messages can be found [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=150347&highlight=#150347 here]. Note that I jotted them down quickly, especially "bubsness.swf", so they may be wrong. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:32, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Transcripts of all but the Bubsness message were already on the Store page. The "celgegante" message appears automatically after you see the "bubsness" message enough times, so I screwed up transcribing the Bubsness message by seeing it too many times. I'm using your version now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Cool. Looks like "song.swf" can be played during the day or at night. Changing my clock to around 11:00 p.m. shows that message at night. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:39, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Uh... in my testing, it replaced "celegante" in the same fashion that it replaces "bubsness", and when my clock was set to late at night (later than 11 PM) it ALWAYS gave me cinnamon.swf. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:41, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. Must be more than one "late night" toon. Seems as though even if I set my clock late, I still get "song.swf", only at night. I still can't get "cinnamon.swf". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:43, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::::: That's because you're not setting it late enough. Try 3 AM. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:47, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. Got it. Semi-late night gives you the "song.swf" (at night), and late-late night gives you "cinnamon.swf". Cool. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:50, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: No no no, my clock is (correctly) reading 2:50 PM and I'm getting song.swf. I'm quite convinced that song.swf totally replaces celegante.swf after you see the latter enough times. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::You're sort of right. It goes in time order: bubsness.swf, celegante.swf, song.swf, song.swf (at night), and then cinnamon.swf. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:54, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: I think I'm getting a loop. I got Bubsness at night (set to 11:52 PM). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:55, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, it's a loop. Except at late night, it goes Bubness for a few rounds, then Celegante, and then Song, and then it starts over. At late night, it's ONLY Cinnamon. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Well, further testing is helping nothing—I just went straight from Bubsness to Song. But I am quite convinced that (aside from cinnamon.swf) none of them have anything to do with the time on your clock. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:03, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::Doesn't look like it. song.swf will play with a night-time background if late enough, though. Cinnamon only plays at night, song will play at night (but not late) or day, and the other two only play in the day. Right? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:06, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Wrong. Like I said, I saw Bubsness at 11:50 PM (it was darkened but otherwise the same.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ah. I think I got it. Apparently (as far as we know) celegante can only be seen during the day, song and bubsness can be seen during either, and cinnamon can only be seen at night. Now am I right? :) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: So far, that's as much as we know. Personally, I suspect that Celegante can be seen at not-so-late night, but currently I haven't seen it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:21, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I think that celegante cam only be accsesed in midday, song and bubsness can only be seen at midday and night, and cinnamon must be after midnight. and I never knew that Strong Bad smoked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
:I can't get them to work [[Mini-Trogdor]]

::During the song one, on Marzipan's guitar, it doesn't say Carol on it. Should I put that as one of the goofs or something? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Flash software==
Speaking of, what's the best software to use to view Flash files directly? I've looked all around this wiki but I've never come across a name. A Google search gives results, but I don't know which one to pick. Pause. Rewind. Fast forward. Resize/Zoom. View source code. See behind the black. Any or all of these features would be preferable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I can get all of those features except the source code from simply watching the .swf file of any 'toon (we link them on every page.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:23, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Riiight... but what ''software'' do you use? Do you watch it straight from IE? Firefox? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::: IE. Right-click the toon to see all the features. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, I've been using IE for a ''while'' now to view .swf files, and not being able to jump ahead, or to move forward or backward more than one frame at a time, just isn't cutting it. I need something more advanced. Some people mention a "seek bar", which tells me there is software out there that is better than just plain ol' IE. Is it Flash developer software? Is it expensive? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: Try [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html here] [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::::::It's dot com: I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler]. The demo doesn't expire. Being just a demo, it doesn't allow you to decompile much, but as a viewer it works great. Oh, and you can see the scripts and inner workings all cool-like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:14, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Thank you Ed and Tom! — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 21:17, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::About that Flash Decompiler, I know this might seem like a stupid question, but how do u view .swf files on there? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:48, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I can type a URL directly in where the filename would go in the Open dialog box. Otherwise, you could right-click on the link to the Flash file and save it to your computer and then open it locally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Oh, thanx! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:33, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Store Revamp ==

I noticed [[User:mibluvr13|mib]] revamped the article. It looks great, but I think it could use some improvement, especially the "Accesories" section. The pictures stretch the screen on smaller screens, and I think it'd look nice if most, if not all, of the products were tables with the "closeup" feature on all of them. I also don't really like the direct images from the actual Homestar Runner Store. I think they could use some editing (and better quality). If the whole thing was a table, it wouldn't look so cluttered and messy, but easy on the eyes and not as difficult to read. My two cents. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:07, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Freebies ==
What do the freebies look like (particularly the big freebie, the keychain)? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:33, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The keychain is the basically looks like this [http://groups.msn.com/bkmlb/stuff.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=27 this] and on the back in white writing is homestarrunner.com--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] 22:46, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:But what about that other one described? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 22:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::The other keychain is the shape of a star. The front has a red border with Homestar Runner in the middle, and the back has three smaller stars with the words "homestarrunner.com" in red writing. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:21, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

They have the Homestar one that is white, shaped like a star, has a picture of homestar on it, a red border, and says the site adress in red on the back. The Strongbadia one is red, shaped like a stop sign (octagon), has the word 'STOP' in white on it, with 'STRONGBADIA, POP: TIRE' in a spraypainted black font written overtop, and has the site adress in white on the back. I don't know of any others! --dayve_57, 1 Oct 2005

Here's a tidbit: on the order confirmation/acknowledgement emails, Big Freebie A is the homestar keychain, and Big Freebie B is the stop sign... I think. I haven't got my order yet but I noticed that I got a different freebie, supposedly... so I think that is how you know which you got. -[[User:Jenny|Jenny]] 21:13, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

:Yup, that's right. And it's now *finally* noted in the newly organized [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. Thanks Jenny, sharp eye. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== shirts in the shirt songs no longer available ==

I went ahead and deleted the goof about the 2 shirts not available anymore out, since it was just recently replaced with the new ones.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]]

== Kick The Cheat coming back? ==

"The Cheat Doll will be back later this month." How do we know this? Is it in the Store somewhere? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:28, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== No longer available ==

I know that you have a section for some of the T-shirt that aren't available anymore, but I was thinking that it might be cool to have a section where it says some of the other things that used to be available in the store such as the tattoos and the Strongbadia Floaty Pen. Thanks!

:I see the classic navy Homestar shirt listed in the unavailable items. Why aren't there images for these? This shirt in particular is one of the most important pieces of merchandise TBC have ever produced. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The white Homestar Classic is conspicuously absent as well. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:17, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::There aren't images for them because nobody made them yet. :p Seriously, I've been meaning to get images for that stuff from archives of old store pages and the old Flash store. Thanks for the reminder. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:26, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Shirt Songs==

http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/tshirts1.html

here is how to play the most known part of Ode To Joy on the shirts in the store.

The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black,
The Cheat, The Cheat, Homsar, TGS, TGS, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, 20X6 Stinkoman,
Trogdor Black, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, The Cheat, Homsar, The Cheat, Trogdor Black, 20X6 Stinkoman, Trogdor Black, Strong Bad Head.

have fun.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Super Store 64 ===
{{stufffact|The "Thank You" page's page title is "Thank you so much for to buying our crap!" This is a reference to the phrase Mario says at the end of [[Wikipedia:Super Mario 64|Super Mario 64]]: "Thank you so much for to playing my game!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:54, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)|03:13, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|17|0|Store}}

== Ow! My browser! ==

Man, this page kills on slow computers. Maybe we should split up the items, much like [[Sightings]] ("Store T-shirts", "Store Toys", etc.)? The Store article also looks very, very cluttered and hard to read the way it is. Any ideas? Anyone else want to tackle this? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I agree that this page does look cluttered and we probably should divide this article into muliple pages like T-shirts and Toys. And for the recent changes to the "Front Page", perhaps we could note the difference between text updates instead of quoting verbatim the many "COMING SOON!" sections that say almost exactly the same thing using different words. Does this sound re-zon-able? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== Floaty Pen ==

Does anyone have a picture of it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hmmm... I'ma gonna start hunting. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Store Autumn thing ==

The updates page said that the change to the autumn theme was today, but I remember seeing it a couple days ago. [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]] 18:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's possible, but the last time I visited it was like three days ago. And it was normal. So it probably changed some time since then. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== New Shirts ==

There are new shirts in the store that aren't on this page.
:Nckinfn04, sometimes you just have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=207767&oldid=207029 wait it out]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== Layout stuff ==

I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 think] there are a couple of layout things that need to be discussed.
#The [[Store#T-Shirts|T-Shirts]] section table looks great except for the Sizes column. Currently, only one row has all the sizes listed and really it looks unsightly. I'd do away with the entire column if it was me and think of a different way of listing these (perhaps an extra <code>colspan</code>'d row below each entry).
#Also, the '''20X6 Stinko Man Shirt!!!''' pictures should have the red '''20X6''' box removed from them.
#I'm not sure what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=226695&oldid=223291 updates] table is referred to here. But tables are generally good.
#It's been discussed or at least mentioned before that this page be broken up. Should it? It's not as big as i thought it was but it sure is sizeable. Regardless, the layout of the products and their description is not yet consistent among sections.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Store Screenshot ==

I took a screenshot of the store using Firefox and [https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1146&application=firefox Screen Grab] that shows the whole page, rather than just the part that showed up in Fahooglewitz's window. If you guy's like it, feel free to use it instead.
[http://jaredandaubrey.net/images/blog_pics/hrstore.png The Screenshot]

== Cleanup ==

This page needs to be cleaned up. The tables are okay, but it clashes with the other items and descriptions. It needs to be cleaned up, and maybe sorted into subpages. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have posted some of my suggestions [[Talk:Store#Layout_stuff|here]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well I cleaned up the [[Store#Freebies|freebies]] section. That's been bugging me for a long time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

===Update===

:Okay, I spent quite a while cleaning up the store. How does it look now? If it's good enough, then I'd like to add the id tags like we did with the Floppy Disk Container, and move over the links to the store from the [[H*R.com updates 2000|updates]] series of articles to ones straight to the store page here. Maybe leave the current links straight to the store for now, but since the links get out of dated, I'd like to switch most of them over to a permanent solution here. But I don't want to get started on that unless everybody agrees this page is good enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}

:Well, no opposition here. I'm saying it's cleaned up enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::Nice Job Thunderbird and you definitely put in lots of work into that page! I do have two questions though: I didn't quite understand what you meant to do when you said you were gonna add id tages like the Floppy Disk container to change some links... what links specifically were you going to change? Can you provide examples? Also, there's still open the suggestion of breaking this into several pages. What you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I just timed how long it took Firefox to load this page over dial-up (I noticed it was takaing a while, so I pressed Ctrl+Shift+R with one eye on the clock) and it took 10:41. That's in mm:ss. That's ridiculous. Some of these images could probably benefit from PNG optimization. Argh! MS Paint in WinME can't do that. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman ringer ==

Why was the Stinkoman ringer t-shirt discontinued shortly after it was out?

Not sure. Maybe it didn't sell very much. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar update (update..'d) ==

Just a small update on the Homsar t-shirt. I contacted the store about it. They don't plan to reprint it ''until enough people request it'':
<pre>We will count your email as a "vote" for bringing back the Homsar T-shirt.</pre>
So, I'm just a friendly reminder. If more people want the Homsar shirt, [mailto:store@homestarrunner.com go tell 'em].

''Status update''
<pre>He'll be back again around the end of March.</pre>
'nuff said.

== Collaborative Community Project ==

It's been awhile since we've done a community project, but I think it's about time for another one. I've been wanting to work on Store for a long time, so I thought this would be a good way to get something done with it. A couple of things that need to be done:

==={{done}} Images===
All of the images now follow the [[HRWiki:Image use policy|image use policy]].

==={{done}} Updating [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and [[Flash Store]] ===
Both [[HRWiki:Userbox]] and the [[Flash Store]] have been updated with the correct images.

==={{done}} Different pages for each type of product===
This is what I've been wanting to do for a long time. Instead of one massive Store article, I think it'd be nice to have different pages for each type of article: <nowiki>[[Store T-Shirts]], [[Store Toys]],</nowiki> etc. This would make [[Store]] much shorter, and it'd be easier to keep up with and archive the different descriptions for each product, which change around some. This is just an idea, of course, and I'd like to see some different opinons on it.

If you have any other ideas, feel free to suggest them here as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 06:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

: I went ahead and started editing the page based on your suggestion. Is this what you were thinking of, or did I screw up? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::It looks fine to me, AtionSong. If you weren't about to do so, I'm going to continue creating in this fashion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::: I'll Work from the bottom up to avoid edit conflicts. Can you start at the top? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I would be happy to. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

It looks like we did a good job! The page looks much better now. Oh, and I'm impressed that in the middle of all this editing, you STILL have time to welcome a new user. Wow. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:When you're on the welcoming committee, you don't pass up a new user often. You did a very nice job as well. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::Good work, juys! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

==={{done}} ID Tags===

Don't forget, many of the id tags are linked to from various parts of the site, especially [[H*R.com updates 2006|H*R updates]]. Make sure you either leave them be, or update their links. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:I think this will be the last thing we need to do. If we can knock this out, I think we'll be done! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::What do these things ''do''? I've been trying to figure that out, but am stumped. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::For linking to a specific part of a table, for instance the Floppy Disk Container. Compare [[Floppy Disk Container]] to [[Floppy Disk Container#tongue of the fatman]] or [[Floppy Disk Container#spy vs spy]]. Usually we can use section breaks (<nowiki>== Section or ===Section===</nowiki>), but in the case of tables we need to "id tag them" so we can link to a specific point. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::::DONE! '''<tt>[[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|ŢɦųηɗəřÞìɤɖ]][[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>''' 00:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

===Other Comments===
==== Separation ====
I really should make a seperate table for Items not avalible anymore. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:Do you have any images of them? It'd be really nice to get some. {{User:FireBird/sig}}
::I meant like the red the cheat shirt {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

::If you mean making a seperate section for T-Shirts that currently aren't available, we already [[Store#Currently not available|have one]], but it isn't a table. I thought you meant the [[Store#No Longer Available|No Longer Available]] section of Freebies. (BTW, The red The Cheat shirt is still available to buy.) {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I can't find the TGS hoodie on the store {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

==== Long and Clunky ====
Is it just me or does this page just seem awkward to navigate through? I'm not sure what to do about it but it just doesnt seem to fit. {{User:DBK/sig}} 02:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree, although, I think it's at it's navigation acme. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Store news archive ==

[[http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/ wayback machine for hr store]]
the wayback machine has the front page news from.. wayback. there are pages for 2005 news and 2006 news but why not '04, '03, '02?--[[User:Collin|Collin]] 01:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. Can someone with more free time add these? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Edit Links ==

Is it just me, or when you click on an edit link, does it take you to the next section down? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 03:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:No, this is a pretty long standing bug in MediaWiki (that so far isn't fixed in 1.6) which causes this to happen if either A.) a section is created with the HTML <h''x''> tags or B.) there is something on the same line as the section header outside the equals signs. I'm-a-go fix that right now. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Couldn't find it after going through some of the recent revisions, so I think it might have been just you. Disclaimer: I could always be wrong. I'll check some more when I get back from class. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Nope, couldn't find it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Musical Shirts ==

The page mentions musical shirts, but isn't that version of the store off the site?
:The original musical shirt selection on the [[Flash Store]] is gone, but the current store T-shirt page has a smaller rendition of the musical lineup. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::Oh. My bad.
:::(For way more on those musical shirts than you or your grandmother could possibly want, see [[User talk:AbdiViklas#T-shirt pitches|my talk page]]!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== What's wrong? ==

What's wrong with the Store page? I think it look's good. It has alot of information, and everything look's in place. What's wrong with it?
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]

: The Cleanup is old. We already cleaned it up. The template is from a few days ago from before we did. A sysop should take that notice down. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

::Actually, AtionSong, there's a final bit of work to be completed. Since we've moved the products to seperate pages, all anchored links the store are now, in effect, broken. Currently, [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is on this, but feel free to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Store|pitch in]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::If TBird is on top of the ID links, are we all set to take the notice off recentchangesnotice and The Stick, Lapper? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

== History of the store ==

I was wondering if there could/should be a section on the history of the store. Was it always there and how did it grow? I think it would be an interesting section to add to the page, if possible. --[[User:Positatewithoutpizzaz|Positatewithoutpizzaz]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, there was the [[Flash Store]], and now there's this one. That's all I know. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Why $14.95 for ladies? ==

Why does it cost more?--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 22:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yes!! ==

Yes!! I saw a store update before the wiki did!! Woohoo!! ...sorry, I've just always wanted to do that before. Please don't spoil my fun. :P

== Official store in Atlanta? ==

I was headed to Atlanta this week and assumed there would be a store (or retailer) in their hometown. Is there any place there that sells merchandise?
:The homestarrunner.com store licenses select independent retail establishments to sell some of their merchandise based on [[HRStore:reop.html|these conditions]]. The list of those retailers is located [[HRStore:storelocator.html|here]]. There is only one store in Georgia, and it is in Athens. There remains one ''official'' store, and it is on the [[HRStore:|Internet]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Amazon.com ==

I noticed a few [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] items for sale on [http://amazon.com Amazon.com]:
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009811ZG B0009811ZG] [[strongbad_email.exe]] (for $25.99; in the [[Store]] it's "Reg. price: $29.95 Sale price: $26.96")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BB7C1S B000BB7C1S] [[strongbad email.exe Disc Four]] (for $10.99; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007R6JOM B0007R6JOM] [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]] (for $11.98; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $10.00 Sale Price: $9.00")
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3GNKO B000E3GNKO] [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] ("8 used & new available from $8.97"; in the Store it's "Reg. price: $12.00 Sale price: $10.80")
The first three say "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com."

I'm not sure how notable or interesting this is, but I figured I'd post it here regardless. Thoughts? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Very interesting to say the least. I'd say notable if we can find out the story behind Amazon selling this stuff. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::Note how Everything Else Vol. 1 is only "available from these sellers", however. All the others are sold from Amazon directly. (And Volume 2 doesn't appear to be anywhere.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pirated merchandise watch ==

From an email exchange between myself and [[Karen Wagner]]:
<tt><blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 01:03:39 -0400 
From: Tom Preuss <tom@hrwiki.org> 
To: Karen Wagner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
 
Hi Karen, 
 
I just wanted to bring 
http://www.blackmarkettoronto.com/shoppingCart/addCart.php?pID=1293 to 
your attention. I'm not sure if you can cease and desist them or 
anything, but I figured you would be the person to contact for that. 
 
Best regards, 
 
Tom Preuss</blockquote>
and
<blockquote>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:06:23 -0700 (PDT) 
From: HomestarRunner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: Cool Tapes shirt ripoff 
To: tom@hrwiki.org 
 
Tom, 
 
Thanks for the info! We are grateful to fans like you who watch out for pirated merchandise. Here's a coupon for your trouble. 
 
[removed] 
 
Type the code in the "Coupon or Promotional Code" box during checkout and $3.00 will be deducted from your merchandise total of $30.00 or more. In fact, if you want to spread the word around the hrwiki that we're giving out coupons to those who bring these types of thing to our attention, that would be great. 
 
Thanks again, 
Karen Wagner</blockquote></tt>
Just a little FYI. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar shirt preview ==

I was just browsing the store when I noticed that the preview for the Homsar shirt was in a Flash file. Namely, [[Videlectrix:storeflash/shirt_homsar.swf|here]]. It's pretty weird that it's hosted on the Videlectrix site, and not on the main one, or the Yahoo store. Anyways, does anybody know when it was added, and if so, how and where do we mention it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks to [http://www.archive.org archive.org], I have found out that is was put up sometime after June 22, 2007. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 18:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::The shirt was re-introduced in Nov 2007, according to [[Store T-shirts]]. Whether that Flash file was there then or not, I don't know. I know it was there pre-Christmas, though, since I encountered it then (sometime within a week before Dec 25). That probably doesn't help. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Recently read that some people have [[Talk:environment#Release date|the power]] to see when files were "last modified" .. that might help, eh? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bad Math ==
Currently, the store lists the Strong Bad overkill combo as being '''$63.95''' separately. I don't know about anyone else, but I do the math as follows: Strong Bad Emails 3 Disc DVD Set '''$29.95 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 4 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Emails Disc 5 DVD '''$12 +''' Strong Bad Sings CD '''$12 = $65.95'''. I don't quite know how to phrase a goof like this, so I invite some talented soul to do so. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's a common practice to throw in a small discount on combo packs in stores to sell the items... otherwise, why buy the combo, instead of just buying the individual items? -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

==Correct bottom animation?==
Am I the only one that gets the wrong animation on the bottom of the store site? I get the Autumn animation, but January is clearly not Autumn. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Yahoo Store

StarLion — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:06:46 GMT

StarLion: /* Bad Math */

Talk:The System is Down

StarLion — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:29:55 GMT

StarLion: /* Musings */ Sign comment, dangit.

Although the "Is" should capitalized by rights in the title of this article, the title in the Toons menu on the Homestar Runner site puts it in lower case. Hence, the title of this article should remain "The System is Down". --[[User:Render|Render]] 04:53, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)
==Preview==
On the toons menu preview of the cartoon it shows Homestar running past the 404 error. Should that be added to trivia? [[User:Sesshoumaru Cian|Sesshoumaru Cian]] 09:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

==SoaD reference?==

I think The System is Down might very well by a reference to the herd rock band "System of a Down". (note: big fan here.) --[[User:12.202.214.217|12.202.214.217]] 15:56, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I think it may be just a referance to the e-mail [[techno]], but you never know. Maybe that could go under a "fun fact." {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:50, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure it's talking about a system... being down... {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:52, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Yeah, but when I search "The System Is Down" (the song) on YouTube, I get a ''lot'' of System of a Down. Remember to stay [[road trip|jumbo/LARGE]]. [[User:Neox|Neox]] And while I'm at it, you know that link to the main page of this wiki in the top-left corner with Homestar on it? I've seen him blink every now and then. Has anyone else seen this? Would they happen to know how this works? Jelly? [[your funeral|Grapity?]]

== difficulties ==

Ok, you removed the system is down goof i added, let me explain where I found it. First click on the Flash file for the cartoon, then read the first paragraph, you will eventually get to the word "difficulties" which is missing the "u" and the "l" is small, and capitalized. If you don't notice this, i don't know what to say...
Now go to the other place wher you can view this cartoon (the link from homestarrunner.com, the toons menu), read that same paragraph, and the word "difficulties" will be spelled correctly. For some reason, it is wrong on the Flash file...

Again, if you don't see this, I don't know what to say except...I guess I am looking at it wrong (?).

Anyways,
Tell me if you can notice it now...bye

:You're looking at it wrong. The .html file uses the .swf file, so it's not possible for them to be different. Try resizing the window and see what happens. Or zoom in. It's definitely spelled correctly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::P.S. Don't forget to sign your name. The best way to do it is to type four tildes after your message, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>

:Could be due to the low-quality setting (i.e. no anti-aliasing) on the image. It causes lines of pixels to double or vanish, depending on your window size. Resize your window and I’m sure you’d notice other “goofs”. —anonymous (do I have an account?)

== dvd transcript ==

"Sass dackery"... shouldn't that be "Sass Daquiri"? I don't drink, but I think if all you have to go on is phoenetics, he might be saying the actual word. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 03:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:I transcribed it; I didn't know what they were talking about. I tried searching my head, google, spell check, for the most probable way to spell it. Sass Daquiri is probably what he's saying. By all means, go ahead and change it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== Do ya tink this should be peoples error pages? ==

Well, If we could change the URL for our error page we could download the swf and then when you get error ta-da! It would be a cool idea huh?
:Isn't that a copyright infringement or something like that? It might not be legal to make this cartoon our 404 error page. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
::It probably would be copyright infringement, but what if we asked TBC for permission? Or do we prefer not to bother them with such trivialities? - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 18:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

==Weebl's Stuff Breakout==

Maybe Weebl's Stuff vandalized the website because of nothing cool. -{{User:Lazor/sig}}

Vandalized? What are you talking about? And why is the text small all of a sudden? It's beginning to creep me out. [[User:Neox|Neox]]

==Release Date==
So this came out in January of '03? I didn't know about Homestar Runner back then, and I thought this was an April Fool's Day Joke.
:No, it was made in response to the site being over-viewed and crashing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

==Musings==
1: The 'system space' appears to be three-dimensional - Strong Bad steps 'into' the page when Bubs appears (note the relative height of the bottom of his shoes compared to Homestar's).

2: Is this an early appearance of a form of Technochocolate? (Swiss Cake roll jammed into a motherboard...) [Edit: I will learn to sign my comments...] -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The System is Down

StarLion — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:29:18 GMT

StarLion: /*Musings*/

Although the "Is" should capitalized by rights in the title of this article, the title in the Toons menu on the Homestar Runner site puts it in lower case. Hence, the title of this article should remain "The System is Down". --[[User:Render|Render]] 04:53, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)
==Preview==
On the toons menu preview of the cartoon it shows Homestar running past the 404 error. Should that be added to trivia? [[User:Sesshoumaru Cian|Sesshoumaru Cian]] 09:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

==SoaD reference?==

I think The System is Down might very well by a reference to the herd rock band "System of a Down". (note: big fan here.) --[[User:12.202.214.217|12.202.214.217]] 15:56, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I think it may be just a referance to the e-mail [[techno]], but you never know. Maybe that could go under a "fun fact." {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:50, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure it's talking about a system... being down... {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:52, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Yeah, but when I search "The System Is Down" (the song) on YouTube, I get a ''lot'' of System of a Down. Remember to stay [[road trip|jumbo/LARGE]]. [[User:Neox|Neox]] And while I'm at it, you know that link to the main page of this wiki in the top-left corner with Homestar on it? I've seen him blink every now and then. Has anyone else seen this? Would they happen to know how this works? Jelly? [[your funeral|Grapity?]]

== difficulties ==

Ok, you removed the system is down goof i added, let me explain where I found it. First click on the Flash file for the cartoon, then read the first paragraph, you will eventually get to the word "difficulties" which is missing the "u" and the "l" is small, and capitalized. If you don't notice this, i don't know what to say...
Now go to the other place wher you can view this cartoon (the link from homestarrunner.com, the toons menu), read that same paragraph, and the word "difficulties" will be spelled correctly. For some reason, it is wrong on the Flash file...

Again, if you don't see this, I don't know what to say except...I guess I am looking at it wrong (?).

Anyways,
Tell me if you can notice it now...bye

:You're looking at it wrong. The .html file uses the .swf file, so it's not possible for them to be different. Try resizing the window and see what happens. Or zoom in. It's definitely spelled correctly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::P.S. Don't forget to sign your name. The best way to do it is to type four tildes after your message, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>

:Could be due to the low-quality setting (i.e. no anti-aliasing) on the image. It causes lines of pixels to double or vanish, depending on your window size. Resize your window and I’m sure you’d notice other “goofs”. —anonymous (do I have an account?)

== dvd transcript ==

"Sass dackery"... shouldn't that be "Sass Daquiri"? I don't drink, but I think if all you have to go on is phoenetics, he might be saying the actual word. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 03:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:I transcribed it; I didn't know what they were talking about. I tried searching my head, google, spell check, for the most probable way to spell it. Sass Daquiri is probably what he's saying. By all means, go ahead and change it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== Do ya tink this should be peoples error pages? ==

Well, If we could change the URL for our error page we could download the swf and then when you get error ta-da! It would be a cool idea huh?
:Isn't that a copyright infringement or something like that? It might not be legal to make this cartoon our 404 error page. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
::It probably would be copyright infringement, but what if we asked TBC for permission? Or do we prefer not to bother them with such trivialities? - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 18:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

==Weebl's Stuff Breakout==

Maybe Weebl's Stuff vandalized the website because of nothing cool. -{{User:Lazor/sig}}

Vandalized? What are you talking about? And why is the text small all of a sudden? It's beginning to creep me out. [[User:Neox|Neox]]

==Release Date==
So this came out in January of '03? I didn't know about Homestar Runner back then, and I thought this was an April Fool's Day Joke.
:No, it was made in response to the site being over-viewed and crashing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

==Musings==
1: The 'system space' appears to be three-dimensional - Strong Bad steps 'into' the page when Bubs appears (note the relative height of the bottom of his shoes compared to Homestar's).
2: Is this an early appearance of a form of Technochocolate? (Swiss Cake roll jammed into a motherboard...)

Talk:crazy cartoon

StarLion — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:33:15 GMT

StarLion: /*The Cheat's Location*/

==Closed STUFF==
These were on the [[STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Eh! Steve (Declined)===
Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'd''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:33, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Strongly accept''' This is a great corrolation. I never thought of that. --[[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]]
*'''Decline''' I'm not a fan of forward referencing in the first place, but if you're going to do it, at least keep it relevant. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:05, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''VERY Strongly Decline''' This is very obvious, and this is not a good fact. --[[User: Jengajam|jengajam]]
**'''Second'''(not an original vote)[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]]

===Sealab 2021 (Declined)===
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Uh...that's what this page is for, EEDIOT. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' And, BTW, who are you talking to, ISTK? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Hey! Steve!==
I really think Eh! Steve says "Hey! Steve" in the ''Powered by The Cheat'' cartoon. I think this is plausible considering The Cheat's poor track record in keeping things absolutely correct in his cartoons. I don't want to change the transcript yet, because that would start an edit war, so if you all can [http://www.homestarrunner.com/crazycartoon.html listen carefully] to Eh! Steve's line a couple of times, I would appreciate your input. If the majority finds this to be true, I will edit the transcript and add a remark. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:15, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry, but I didn't hear an "h" sound. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:19, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nobody sounds like themselves in the cartoon, so why should Eh! Steve? - [[User:Catman87]]

:I distinctly hear an 'h' sound. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:44, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Ditto {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:11, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I actully think he says "Hey Steve!" but TBC call him Eh Steve, so I guess thats the correct way to say it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:38, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, but BazookaJoe's question was whether the Cheat's version was actually ''not'' saying it in the correct way. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 02:42, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Oops. I think he his then. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:40, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

The only difference I hear is that it sounds more pouty, more like "Ehhhh...steve..." (could I change the transcript to note that difference?) [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 19:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Space Harrier II Reference? ==

The background of "Sweet Cuppin Cakes" looks to me like the background for the game Space Harrier II for sega genesis. Here's a link to a picture of the game: [http://users3.ev1.net/~bflens/32Xenhance/Sharrie2_000.jpg Link]
Does anybody else see the similarity? Is it worthy of note? --[[User:paulsint|paulsint]] 16:21, 05 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yikes', you're right. It's a possible reference, but we'd have to think about why TBC would ever reference it. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::Meh, all it really has in common is the checkerboarded floor, which could easily be a coincidence, or even a reference to a different game (many games have checkerboarded floors and that perspective – it's much easier to make it animate with palette shifting...). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Purple Coach Z? ==

*He looks pink. Plus, the Brothers Chaps say he's pink. What's up? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Split ==

I think this page should be split into two pages – one for the email, and one for the PbTC part available from the [[Toons]] menu. The page is a bit confusing as it reads now, and it's inconsistent next to [[comic]] and [[tgs1]], which have their own pages (and would be ''much'' more confusing if they were merged together like this page). Thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds good. I've got the groundwork under way. Just needs some polishin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
::It all looks done now to me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat's Location ==
It has been generally established that The Cheat's computer room is to Strong Bad's left. In this cartoon he gets up and goes right. --[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 20:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Puppet Time

StarLion — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:43:36 GMT

StarLion: /* Fun Facts */ Save-Rite.

{{puppetnav|puppettime.html|Everybody Knows It|Puppet Jam: Bad Jokes}}
[[Image:PuppetTime.png|thumb|right|220px|"I was just, um, doing nothing, with... nothing that belongs to Strong Bad."]]

Homestar "borrows" a "couple" of things from [[Strong Bad]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 1:11

'''Page Title:''' Puppet Time

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Transcript ==
''{Homestar Runner walks in to Strong Bad's computer room, holding a damaged tape. [[Compy 386]] is off and there is a note attached to the screen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad? Strong Bad, I brought back your tape of old Mister Wizards! Okay, I'll just leave it on the floor.

''{He drops the tape, a smashing sound is heard. He sees the note.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dramatically}'' A note! ''{turns to the camera}'' A note! ''{reading}'' 'Probably at a barbecue...with lotsa ladies! SB.' ''{mischievously}'' Oh, really?

''{Homestar runs out of the shot to the left, then enters again with a quart-size dairy carton.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I'm borrowing this milk for an undisclosed period of time!

''{runs across again, now with a squeegee}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I'm borrowing this squeegee-type-deal!

''{runs across again with an electric guitar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Taking the guitar!

''{struggling with a TV set}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{straining}'' The TV! ''{he drops it}'' Phew!

''{Homestar enters again, carrying an [[Atari 2600]], but this time he meets The Cheat coming the other way, carrying Strong Bad's keyboard; the monitor has already gone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad-

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{exclamation}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I was just, um, doing nothing, with... nothing that belongs to Strong Bad.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, you too, huh?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool, um, I'm going to... run away, now... pretty quickly.

''{Homestar Runner and The Cheat run off, each in the direction he came from, as The Cheat screams. The screen goes black momentarily, but then the shot returns for a moment as The Cheat leans in from the right and swipes Strong Bad's [[Floppy Disk Container]].}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat exclamation}''

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*Outtakes of the final sequence with The Cheat stealing the disk container are shown in [[Some Extras]]. The predicament of the hand in the shot was solved in the final website product by cutting out the edge of the picture and enlarging the remainder. The fade-to-black before the final sequence was inserted in order to mask the editing.

=== Inside References ===
*Homestar borrowing things from Strong Bad is a reference to [[50 emails]].
*This is another appearance of [[Sticky Notes]].

=== Real-World References ===
*Homestar looking into the camera and saying "A note!" again, is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Blue's Clues|Blue's Clues]], where the host does the same thing.
*Mr. Wizard is the pseudonym of [[Wikipedia:Don Herbert|Don Herbert]]. He was the host of the children's television program [http://mrwizardstudios.com Mr. Wizard] which ran on-and-off from the 1950s until the 1990s. The show featured Herbert and a young assistant performing interesting science experiments.
*The "milk carton" that Homestar borrows is, on closer inspection, a [[Wikipedia:Winn-Dixie|Winn-Dixie]] brand carton of Half and Half, not milk. Winn-Dixie is a supermarket chain based in [[Wikipedia:Jacksonville, Florida|Jacksonville, Florida]] with stores throughout the southeastern United States.
*The guitar is a red [[Wikipedia:Gibson Explorer|Gibson Explorer]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Here's a puppet time that I made when Mike was out of town! So, it was easier to do a little live action than to try and animate.

'''MIKE:''' This was, I guess— was this the second thing after the [[Everybody Knows It]] video?

'''MATT:''' I think it was! Umm, before the Strong Bad puppet was— existed, so we just had to use Homestar and The Cheat again. Uh, I remember, our buddy Nat helped out with this, and our friend Sarah was in town, and I think she helped out, too... ''{pause}'' There's some half-and-half that Ryan probably bought at the Save-Rite.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' There's our real disk caddy from growing up—

'''MATT:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' —full of real games that we used to play.

'''MATT:''' Just copied versions of King's Quest II, Police Quest III, save disks etc.— err, Police Quest II, probably. Ooh, there's some— I never noticed those reflections in the TV!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Reflections? Yeah. ''{alone}'' Probably can't see them —

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' You can't see!

'''MIKE:''' —when it was so small on the web.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Homestar's got that Atari... ''{pause}'' Umm... ''{pause}'' You don't usually see this side of Homestar, just ripping off stuff from people.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' He totally cleans out Strong Bad's place! And The Cheat, too! ''{imitating the music}'' Wayaw, wayaw! ''{in normal voice}'' I remember that took a lot.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:King's Quest|King's Quest]] and [[Wikipedia:Police Quest|Police Quest]] are both computer game series from [[Wikipedia:Sierra Entertainment|Sierra Entertainment]].
*"Wayaw wayaw", or rather "way-o way-o", was later used in [[geddup noise]].
*[[Wikipedia:Save Rite|Save-Rite]] was a rebranding of the Winn-Dixie grocery store chain that withdrew from Atlanta in 2005.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:puppettime.html|watch "Puppet Time"]]
*[[HR:puppettime.swf|view the Flash file for "Puppet Time"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|puppettime}}

[[Category:Puppet Stuff]]
[[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Puppet Time

StarLion — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:42:15 GMT

StarLion: /* Commentary Transcript */ Fix grocery store name.

{{puppetnav|puppettime.html|Everybody Knows It|Puppet Jam: Bad Jokes}}
[[Image:PuppetTime.png|thumb|right|220px|"I was just, um, doing nothing, with... nothing that belongs to Strong Bad."]]

Homestar "borrows" a "couple" of things from [[Strong Bad]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 1:11

'''Page Title:''' Puppet Time

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Transcript ==
''{Homestar Runner walks in to Strong Bad's computer room, holding a damaged tape. [[Compy 386]] is off and there is a note attached to the screen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad? Strong Bad, I brought back your tape of old Mister Wizards! Okay, I'll just leave it on the floor.

''{He drops the tape, a smashing sound is heard. He sees the note.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dramatically}'' A note! ''{turns to the camera}'' A note! ''{reading}'' 'Probably at a barbecue...with lotsa ladies! SB.' ''{mischievously}'' Oh, really?

''{Homestar runs out of the shot to the left, then enters again with a quart-size dairy carton.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I'm borrowing this milk for an undisclosed period of time!

''{runs across again, now with a squeegee}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! I'm borrowing this squeegee-type-deal!

''{runs across again with an electric guitar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Taking the guitar!

''{struggling with a TV set}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{straining}'' The TV! ''{he drops it}'' Phew!

''{Homestar enters again, carrying an [[Atari 2600]], but this time he meets The Cheat coming the other way, carrying Strong Bad's keyboard; the monitor has already gone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad-

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{exclamation}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I was just, um, doing nothing, with... nothing that belongs to Strong Bad.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, you too, huh?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool, um, I'm going to... run away, now... pretty quickly.

''{Homestar Runner and The Cheat run off, each in the direction he came from, as The Cheat screams. The screen goes black momentarily, but then the shot returns for a moment as The Cheat leans in from the right and swipes Strong Bad's [[Floppy Disk Container]].}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat exclamation}''

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*Outtakes of the final sequence with The Cheat stealing the disk container are shown in [[Some Extras]]. The predicament of the hand in the shot was solved in the final website product by cutting out the edge of the picture and enlarging the remainder. The fade-to-black before the final sequence was inserted in order to mask the editing.

=== Inside References ===
*Homestar borrowing things from Strong Bad is a reference to [[50 emails]].
*This is another appearance of [[Sticky Notes]].

=== Real-World References ===
*Homestar looking into the camera and saying "A note!" again, is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Blue's Clues|Blue's Clues]], where the host does the same thing.
*Mr. Wizard is the pseudonym of [[Wikipedia:Don Herbert|Don Herbert]]. He was the host of the children's television program [http://mrwizardstudios.com Mr. Wizard] which ran on-and-off from the 1950s until the 1990s. The show featured Herbert and a young assistant performing interesting science experiments.
*The "milk carton" that Homestar borrows is, on closer inspection, a [[Wikipedia:Winn-Dixie|Winn-Dixie]] brand carton of Half and Half, not milk. Winn-Dixie is a supermarket chain based in [[Wikipedia:Jacksonville, Florida|Jacksonville, Florida]] with stores throughout the southeastern United States.
*The guitar is a red [[Wikipedia:Gibson Explorer|Gibson Explorer]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Here's a puppet time that I made when Mike was out of town! So, it was easier to do a little live action than to try and animate.

'''MIKE:''' This was, I guess— was this the second thing after the [[Everybody Knows It]] video?

'''MATT:''' I think it was! Umm, before the Strong Bad puppet was— existed, so we just had to use Homestar and The Cheat again. Uh, I remember, our buddy Nat helped out with this, and our friend Sarah was in town, and I think she helped out, too... ''{pause}'' There's some half-and-half that Ryan probably bought at the Save-Rite.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' There's our real disk caddy from growing up—

'''MATT:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' —full of real games that we used to play.

'''MATT:''' Just copied versions of King's Quest II, Police Quest III, save disks etc.— err, Police Quest II, probably. Ooh, there's some— I never noticed those reflections in the TV!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Reflections? Yeah. ''{alone}'' Probably can't see them —

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' You can't see!

'''MIKE:''' —when it was so small on the web.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Homestar's got that Atari... ''{pause}'' Umm... ''{pause}'' You don't usually see this side of Homestar, just ripping off stuff from people.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' He totally cleans out Strong Bad's place! And The Cheat, too! ''{imitating the music}'' Wayaw, wayaw! ''{in normal voice}'' I remember that took a lot.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:King's Quest|King's Quest]] and [[Wikipedia:Police Quest|Police Quest]] are both computer game series from [[Wikipedia:Sierra Entertainment|Sierra Entertainment]].
*"Wayaw wayaw", or rather "way-o way-o", was later used in [[geddup noise]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:puppettime.html|watch "Puppet Time"]]
*[[HR:puppettime.swf|view the Flash file for "Puppet Time"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|puppettime}}

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Talk:Eating Non-Food Items

StarLion — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:19:58 GMT

StarLion: /* Home Page 7 */

==Merging with [[Strong Mad]]==

I feel that this article's information could be sufficiently covered in a paragraph on Strong Mad's article. I don't think it needs it's own page. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it's happened enough times to count as a running gag. [[Foods used as phones]] has only happened twice, but it hasn't been deleted.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
:I could go either way. I'm-a wait for more opinions. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Hm. That should probably be deleted, too. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:14, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I think this is a running gag. I think it has enough happenings, because [[Cinnamon]] has 5 occurences, [[Cool Shades]] has 6 occurences, and [[Strong Sad's Severed Head]] has 5 occurences. There are other running gags that have to do with certain characters, and they are good enough to have their own page. I think this deserves its own page. --{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, this seems worth its own page to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

::Is it possible to start up a STUA? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

:::What's a STUA?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

:::: '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''A'''rticles. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::what's a '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''A'''rticles?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::We currently have STUFF, Select the Usable Fun Facts. He's suggesting with have the same thing but for articles. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think this article, along with many other examples, show that the current way of working through what articles should exist and under what heading and with what information works pretty well. I can think of many pages which I have watched building and debate go on for a good amount of time before they found their place within the wiki. I don't think it's as simple as a "STUA" and a vote. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, STUA doesn't spell anything. Unless you make it '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''A'''rticles, '''R'''edirects, and '''T'''hings. Or something like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::::Okayokayokaywaitwaitwaitwait! All of us over here at the [[Talk:Homestar's Fashion Sense]] page were thinking the ''exact same thing''. If you want to see that for ideas, feel free. This should be like the guestbooks mass disscussion where we all decide on a new policy. These kinds of articles happen way too often to overlook. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 19:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::What do you mean by "these kinds of articles?" -[[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 03:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::The kinds of articles whose worthiness to stand alone and not be merged with something or deleted is debatable. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 20:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
== Moving To "Eating Inedible Objects" ==

Somehow the KoT comes to mind when I hear "eating inedible objects". I suggest that we include the guy on this page, or otherwise, we'll probably get a separate article for him, if we choose to keept this one. And by the way, while I think this list is boring, it's a bona fide running gag.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 18:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I agree. Not only does the KoT eat inedible objects, he eats edible objects that are meant specifically for something besides eating (lard, to name one). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

::Eating Inedible Objects is a bad name (as if they are eaten they are edible), but the idea that non-food objects are eaten by characters (SM/KOT) is a real running gag. Although some of the KOT's choices are "food" that are just disgusting (ie: Lard). Strong Mad specifically eats a great number of non-food items that he treats as real grub. So my current view is that this is a Stong Mad trait that is shared to some extent by the KOT (simular to Stong Bad traits that other characters occasionally share), thus I (personally)would keep it as a "Strong Mad eating. . ." page with a KOT subsection. (otherwise a more generic page is needed) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 21:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
:::If we call it "Strong Mad doing something" we should not then have The KOT doing stuff included, as it's off the topic. I suggest renaming the page "Eating Unusual Items" or the like (putting the whole "inedible" problem behind us as a result) and include any character eating unusual items, including Homestar eating a light globe sandwich in [[theme song]], as an example. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Concur - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:30, 16 October 2006 (UT

== Big enough to not be a stub? ==

I think that there's enough information on the page for this to be de-stubbed. [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]] 20:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

== Giant leaf ==

In the "Unnatural", Homestar is caring around a giant leaf with bite marks taken out of it. Should this be added?

Hmm... maybe not, leaves technically can be food. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== 19 Wheels and Rubber Cement ==

I recall in [[Ever and More]] we join the group as Coach Z is revealing a recipe to Strongsad ... one that includes a 19-wheeled tricycle and begins to describe another that requires a pound of rubber cement ... Figure this kinda falls under the Non-Food category, yes? --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 10:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Please fix. I need some sandbox time. *slump* --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 10:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== too far ==

baldfaced ignorance is bit much for their stupidity

== Home Page 7 ==

Do the "Toons" and/or "Games" rollover from Home Page 7 apply here? (In the former, worms come out of 'deceased' H*R's mouth; in the latter, a crow comes down and pecks out some of his exposed brain and carries it off.)
:I don't think Homestar was eating the worms so much as they were eating HIM, and I wouldn't be surprised if carrion is a part of a crow's diet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::And rats eat electrical wires; it doesn't make them any less of a non-food item. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 18:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Eating Non-Food Items

StarLion — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:41:01 GMT

StarLion: /*Home Page 7?*/

Talk:nightlife

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:05:55 GMT

StarLion: /* Underwear */

== Homestar's t-shirt ==

Anybody know what Homestar's t-shirt says? I'm sure it's a reference to something, but I don't know what it is, and I can't make out what it says. Also, I tried moving his bathrobe by decompiling the Flash file, but the robe and the t-shirt are the same graphic. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:See shape 501. Hotrod, it seems. No idea if it's a real shirt. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Trey, what does homestar look like under there without being pixelly? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:::OF: Ooh, nice work! That means it's a reference to [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Ysm&q=roddy+piper&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Rowdy Roddy Piper]! :D DeFender: Hmm, I forgot to check... ''{gives DF a funny look}'' {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badia? ==

When people mention Strong Badia in their emails, Strong Bad seems to have stopped bothering to either a) actually assume they mean Strong Badia, and set the email there or b) correct them. I think this is the first time he goes ahead and assumes "Strong Badia" means "Free Country USA". Worth noting? {{User:Tim333}}
:No, he does it all the time. This is not the first. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::When has he done it before? "local news" is set in strong badia. In "keep cool" there's a deliberate fourth wall break explaining the error. "unnatural" is set (at least at the start) in Strong Badia. In "mini-golf" he says "Strong Badia doesn't have a place of its own..." I could go on, but I can't think of a single time he's simply ignored the mention of Strong Badia. {{User:Tim333}}

Technically this time he didn't quite ignore it, the FIRST place he shows is IN Strong Badia. Strong Badia has that hill. Then he says "but when it comes to good clubs...." like he's finished answering the actual e-mail and has moved on to other non-StrongBadian clubs.
..
But seriously those people need to learn that Free Country Usa =/= Strong Badia. {{unsigned|75.72.21.221|00:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:Actually, no, [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]] is not in Strong Badia, since you can see Strong Badia in the ''distance'' from the hill. But seriously, sign your posts. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

==Strong Badia vs. Bubs' Concession Stand==
[[Image:Freecountry silhouette.png|150px]] [[Image:CarrotandKazoo.png|150px]]

We have a strange reversal here. Strong Badia and Bubs' Concession Stand seem to have switched places! How do we mention this? Or do we? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:Probably should just go on [[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]]... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:It's also possible that it's just the same, only viewed from the other side... {{unsigned|Capt. Ido Nos|18:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:: But we can clearly see that the stand is facing us in both shots, as well as the relative positions of the fence and the flag. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::It's the same place, the difference is the ELEVATION and RANGE of the image. Carrot and Kazoo hill would be in the middle-right of the black area in the first picture, hence you wouldn't see it in that picture. (Imagine looking at a hill from above - it would appear flat). This of course doesn't change that the two seem to be in the wrong places. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 18:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::And not just the fence and flag, but the tire as well (which IS there in nightlife, if you look closely). It's clear they somehow switched places. Anyway, the wording escapes me on how to phrase it on the inconsistencies page, so I'll let someone else do that. (And please sign your edits, Capt.) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Just had a thought... if Bubs is working nights at Club Technochocolate tending bar, why is the light on at Bubs' Concession Stand??? [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 23:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Those two times couldn't have taken place on the same night as both Strong Sad and Homestar were at the club. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Additionally, isn't is possible that Club Technochocolate is ''in'' the concession stand? We've never seen the outside of it, Bubs works there, and in the Cheat's video, he says he DJ's down ''at Bubs's''[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::They could have been the same night, just not at the same time. In either case, if Bubs' stand was open, where's Bubs? His silhouette should be there.

::::::'''Postulation:''' Club Technochocolate is actually in the Basement of Bubs' stand, as we have seen him descend into at least twice before. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 04:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== disdance ==

Strong Bad dances '''exactly''' like in the email [[disconnected]]. Should we make it in inside references? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 19:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

No, TBC reuse stuff a lot. It's not too surprising. By the way, I rearranged this topic a little bit. Easier on the eyes.-[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 20:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Edit ==
:''The quote "But that's for another e-mail." is a reference to Good Eats, where host Alton Brown constantly implies that a recipe or topic has been or will be discussed on another episode with a similar phrase.''
I don't mind, just I'd like to know a reason. It ''is'' a real reference, I watch the show a great deal, but I'd at least like to know [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 19:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:The phrase "but that's another email" could stem from many common phrases, not least of which is the idiom "but that's another story". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so very common then, thas cool. At least it was a good reason. I've seen some edits removed when the reason wasn't very clear, thats why I posted this.[[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 19:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Stinkoblade raises a good point here. A hasty perusal of the pages in the HRWiki Policy category didn't turn up anything on this point, but it would seem to me that it's a little "brusque" to remove anything from a page without a few words of explanation in the edit comment. It does happen a lot in the heat of the moment. Newbies learn faster when you repeatedly point them to such well-trod pages as [[HRWiki:Standards]] and [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines]], and everyone's favorite [[HRWiki:Glossary#TTATOT]]. On the other hand, implying that their contribution wasn't even worth the extra twenty seconds to explain why it wasn't worth an extra twenty seconds has got to be frustrating. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Soma ==

Is it worth noting anything about Soma (''Brave New World'', etc.)? It's not exactly relevant, given it's just a strange pronunciation, but perhaps it's worthy of a mention.

* When I saw it, I thought more of Soma as in the one [[Wikipedia:South of Market, San Francisco, California|in San Francisco]], which has a lot of bars and nightlife... [[User:Criacow|Criacow]] 05:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think this is a reference to anything: I think it's just a corruption name signed by the sender. There's nothing to link this to ''Brave New World'' at all, and I don't know that the SF reference is too strong, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If we're shooting for wild stretches, maybe it's a reference to Soma Cruz, the main character from Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow. After all, Strong Bad used it as a name, and the Castlevania games are definitely about "the night"! ...only, no. It's not. Because there's no reason for it to be. Because it makes no sense in context. And because, as I said, it's a ridiculous stretch and a coincidence that ends beyond name. Not *everything* is a reference... -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Soma's also a japanese last name (see all the main characters if Fruits Basket, for example) and a common japanese place name, the cell body of the [[wikipedia:soma (biology)|neuron]], a [[wikipedia:soma|ritual drink]], and [[wikipedia:soma (disambiguation)|lots of other stuff]]. So, there's your "other reference." TTATOT, yet? =3 -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 07:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I think it's a reference to Sora, from [[Wikipedia:Kingdom Hearts (series)|Kingdom Hearts]]. Strong Bad probably saw "Somekindaguy" and wanted to pronounce the first part similar to "Sora", and "Soma" was the best he could do. I'll go add the reference. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Honestly, I have to agree with our anonymous idea poster. I didn't think of the reference at first, but when the lyrics for Smart Drinks came out, I began thinking. The song is rather hypnotic and subliminally suggestive, which makes the Brave New World reference seem much more plausible.
::::::On the other hand, TBC don't strike me as the kind of guys to put a random reference to a classic sci-fi novel in one of the cartoons. Classic other things, yes. But not sci-fi novels. Even if it's unlikely, though, must we really be so hard on poor Anonny? --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Brave New World was the first thing that I thought of, particularly due to the hypnotic happiness induced by the drugs. Although soma was originally, I believe, a type of hypnotic drink from the Indus river. And Brave New World isn't really a sci-fi novel, but rather a dystopian one. [[User:Mariko|Mariko]] 18:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== A scandal every week ==

Removed from the Remarks section, but interesting enough for the Talk page:
* Strong Bad's email song is rhythmically identical to the one from [[dragon]] ("Here I go once again with the email...").
Check it out. It's probably unintentional, but it's almost a perfect match. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

: It's not *that* close. Here's a comparison between the two:
http://www.alextemplemusic.com/sbemailsongs.jpg

:(Note that Strong Bad swings the eighth notes, so it comes out less stiff than what I wrote down. Still, this should be pretty accurate.)
-invisible_map

: I felt it was very similar in both rhythm and tone (especially the slight rise at "SCAN-dal") to the chorus of the song "Give It Away" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, from their Blood Sugar Sex Magik album, which is why I originally put it there. Could anyone who happens to know that song confirm/deny this? I could be wrong :P - [[User:Stele|Stele]] 09:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::It does bear a similarity to that song, as well as others. It's [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

Can anyone make out what the lyrics are to the song playing in Club Technochocolate? It sounds like "soft drink" or something...
:I was wondering this too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:It sounds like 'soft driiink..... seize a soft driink....'but i cant tell what the low part is. Sublimimal(dont know how to spell this) messaging?--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 20:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I imagine they'll put it up as a QotW later, but for now my Rorschach answer is "Palm trees. See the palm trees." --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Salt Dream. She's a salt dream. -Alex H.
::Had an anony update the page saying that it's "sloshy". I removed it. I feel dumb that I typed "other people here other lyrics" since I obviously meant "hear" .. sigh .. well, I have no idea what they're singing. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::: When I first heard it, I thought it sounded like Coach Z's impersonation of the Geddup Noise... I ''know'' it's not that, but it's making me think it's going "Reeeerrr, reeeeerr!" I honestly can't hear anything legible (??) in that garglemesh either. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 02:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Intelligible? Yeah, me either. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Reminded me of Homestar's "Party! Pizza party!" song from the tune of it, but those clearly aren't the lyrics. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 16:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm. It's kind of weird how so many people heard different things. It sounded like "Slushy, she's a slushy." To me [[User:Biscuithead1293|Biscuithead1293]] 22:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:My guess was "Star scream- hear the star scream." -James E.
::I heard "Brother in a jar" no, wait.... (actually, to me it was just unintelligible, so I can't help) [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "Haldo, Happy T, Tasteball." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Wow! That's a lot of references! That's gotta be what it is. I'll go add it to Inside Refs right now! -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:58, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I hope YK isn't serious... It almost looks like TBC heard our confusion. Check out the new QotW. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:Of course he's not serious. And TBC do that all the time. Almost scary how they do that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Heh, yeah. I was just playing along with DeFender (see the edit summaries for our two odd comments here). I actually fully expected to see this song make it as a Quote of the Week, though. It's in the background, there's confusion over it, and it's a song. Perfect Quote of the Week material. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Has anyone noticed that, nine out of ten, when there's a line that there's confusion about, it gets QotW'd? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 23:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)'
:::Yes, it happens with eerie frequency. They've also used [[Sketchbook]] captions to answer questions, too. At least once. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:i think it should be pointed out now that the music has been posted as the QotW that the music in the email isn't exactly the same, namely that the singers move between lines differently, and the second singer says "don't have another round" instead of just "don't", so the transcript should probably reflect that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 15:57, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nope, you're wrong. ^_^ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::About what? the fact that they sing the lines in the different order, or that the transcript should reflect that? just saying i'm wrong just pisses me off. give a reason. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 19:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC):
::::The robots just sing "don't". [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::No... in the QOTD, they just sing don't. But in the e-mail, check frames 1548~1638. They appear to be saying something like "don't have another round" or "definitely not another round." {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 19:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::DorianGray, when have they used the sketchbook? Just curious. -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 20:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Bozar's first line in [[best thing]] was a mystery until the sketchbook captioned "riddle me twice, limolosers" was released. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::...which, unfortunately, it... still doesn't sound like to me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Drive-Thru ==

I kind of thought that including the whale on the fast-food bag really removed a lot of the strangeness from "Drive-Thru," because at least we know now that actual food can be ordered from this "whale," or that there's more of them in FC. {{User:The President/sig}} 21:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe he got takeout. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Drive-Thru Whale ==

Should we include the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] as a charcter?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 21:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Nope, a picture is not an appearance. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Chicken Melt ==
I found this under real-world references--
*The "Crispy Chicken Melt" and its spicy variety are a reference to Burger King's Tendercrisp Chicken sandwich.
I thinks this is TTATOT, because every fast food restaurant in existence has some variety of chicken melt. Shall we remove it? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry, my bad. I just thought too quickly without analyzing the situation. {{User:The President/sig}} 22:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I thought it was the Spicy Crispy Chicken Sandwich at Jack in the Box. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I was thinking that it was a reference to the way fast food restaurants keep changing their sandwiches just a bit to make them a different kind of sandwich. Like how Arby's (or maybe it was Jack in the Box) has both a crispy chicken sandwich and a spicy chicken sandwich. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:For the ignorant Aussie: what's a chicken melt, and how is it different from a chicken burger? [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 02:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::See [[Wikipedia:Melt sandwich|Melt sandwich]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks! [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 03:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:It brought KFC to my mind... --[[User:Jordo EX|Jordo EX]] 07:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I thought about the 4th Meal radio ad for Taco Bell where the food is trying to get into a club. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V]] 08:18, 11 December 2007 (CST)
::I thought of the Fourth-Meal ad before i even saw the sbemail and was reading the transcript. If not, it's probably a reference to the fact that tons of Fast Food places have recently been unveiling "New Spicy Chicken Fahita wrap!" "New Crispy Chicken Melt" and all that.-[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 19:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Signoff ==
Is it worth mentioning in the article that Strong Bad has a 'until next time' style message on the end of this email, and that it's done in the style of a radio announcer signing off? (possible inside reference to local news?) -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Bubs's arms! ==

Did anybody notice that Bub's arms were done with shape tweening?! Thats... different. --Mysterious Mysterio.

I totally did. I wasn't sure, but my first thought was that this new, curvier movement was used here for the first time. If it persists it might merit a mention on Bubs's page, but for now I don't know that it's significant enough to include here—but that's just my opinion. —I-don't-sign-these-things-but-Anonymous-Contributor-was-taken McGee

I noticed this as well. Whether or not Bubs's arms have changed for good, I do think it's a striking enough change to warrant a mention in the Remarks section of this email. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 06:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I definitely noticed the difference in the animation of Bubs's arms, too. It's pretty striking, I agree. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 13:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Pwawty Cloughb ==

My edit referencing a previous email concerning pronounciation of "club" was reverted. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=nightlife&diff=prev&oldid=526337 See here.] maybe I need to discuss on here first... [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 04:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:My first inclination is to agree that it's a coincidence, but then I don't know anything about 50 Cent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::My 2 cents: Is it really a unique pronounciation that you can attribute only/first to 50 Cent? Somehow I doubt it. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 04:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::: well, no of course, but The first reference to "da club" or "cloughb" as it is now, was from extra plug, and referenced AGAIN in disconnected, so maybe this is another running gag in the works. [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 19:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's not really much of a gag, though. And it could just as easily be SB's way of pronouncing the word (remember, he does have something of an accent).

== Cinnamon stubble ==

It looks like Homestar has his cinnamon stubble again in this one. In the transcript, it just observes that he's "unshaved." I'm not entirely sure this is accurate, as HSR has never actually, to my knowledge, said that he shaves, and I'm pretty certain that he said he doesn't. I'm too lazy and tired to find the email where this happens, though. Anyways, should the transcript be changed to acknowledge the cinnamon-ness, or should it be pointed out as a running joke in the remarks section? Or is it understood at this point that anytime HSR has stubble that it's cinnamon, and thus it need not be mentioned? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 09:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Add a link to [[cinnamon]] somewhere in, like, remarks or inside refs, and we're all... fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:: I'm not so sure about this "cinnamon" thing anymore, to be honest. [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 19:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Could you clarify what you mean, a little bit? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== My Goof ==
Somebody removed this goof I put on the page:
''In the first dancing scene, Marzipan's mouth is in it's old style.'' Someone also removed my image of Marzi's mouth. Can we discuss this first? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:As I said when I removed it: "See [[Marzipan Evolution]]; her old mouth is used from time to time, so we can't assume it's a goof." {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::But under Remarks in [[Fall Float Parade]], it mentions Marzipan's old mouth. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Name and place ==

I cannot find evidence of a Josh, Colorado, but the sender would have written two names for himself if Josh is his name. Does anyone thinks they has the solution? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:I think "Somekindaguy" is somehow his closing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

*I agree with the last remark. Some people just don't include a last name, and if i were to use a weird word and then name my town as "Josh", i'd probably notice that it looks like Josh is my name and make a bracketed remark, à la Jody (not a girl). —Jody (Bulldozer)

== Eye goof ==
Can someone check on this: I thought I noticed some weirdness going on with SB's eyes when he walks up to SM. Like, the sizes aren't the same. Maybe I'm making it up, but I know that kinda thing has happened before. Speaking of which, does anyone know what would cause it? {{unsigned|DAGRON|15:12, 12 December 2007}}
:The glare on Strong Bad's left eye just looks a little lower and to the center than normal, maybe just because of the perspective. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 19:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sleepwalking Explanation ==
Ummm....K. Why come there is an explanation for sleepwalking? I mean really? ''Really''? Hmph-[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 20:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

well, according to wikipedia, "A common misconception is that sleepwalking is an individual acting out the physical movements within a dream, but in fact sleepwalking occurs earlier on in the night when rapid eye movement (REM), or the "dream stage" of sleep, has not yet occurred."

== S to the B ==
If I remember correctly, this is the second email in which Strong Bad is addressed as S to the B. Is this correct or am I crazy? [[User:Orangeslice|Orangeslice]] 03:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
:You are quite correct (but that doesn't necessarily mean you can't also be crazy =3 ). The other, I believe, is [[extra plug]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but it doesn't belong on the page, as it's not TBC making the reference, and furthermore, it's not even referencing something TBC did... I have removed it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:06, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Interesting though that both times an "S to the B" email has been answered, it involved/revolved around Club Technochocolate... [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 01:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

== Backwards Club Sign Goof ==
At around frame 1399, when Bubs is flipping over, to the upper right you can briefly see the "ate" of the "Club Technochocolate" logo. It has been flipped horizontally from the image that was on the left, earlier.

Is this goof-worthy enough for inclusion? It could always be a, um...really big mirror.

{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 17:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Clarification of Music Lyrics ==
While I was here, I noticed that in the music thread above, someone raised the point that the bot's lyrics from e-mail to qotd are different. Listen to frames ~1549-1639 (it's the scene with Bubs the bartender selling Strong Bad a Pink Elephant Pants for $17.50). From playing those frames, the bot is clearly saying something a lot longer than "don't" in the e-mail.

Singer: Have another round... 
Bot: <garglemesh> another round... 
Singer: Have another round... 
Bot: <garglemesh> another round... 

Anybody figure out what the garglemesh is? The vowels sound something like "death not need another round" but I'm sure the consonants are different...{{User:Nebulon/sig}} 19:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Underwear ==

Didn't Strong Bad say he didn't wear underwear in New Boots, but he has them now? Shouldn't this go on the remarks section? {{unsigned|Tojo940|21:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)}}

:It has been shown several times that Strong Bad does wear underwear before now. It's pretty much chalked up to another instance of Strong Bad lying. PS, sign your posts. --[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 22:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

The Brothers Chaps

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:18:04 GMT

StarLion: /* External Links */

[[Image:TheBrothersChaps.jpg|thumb|Mike on the left, Matt on the right, and The Cheat bottom right.]]

'''The Brothers Chaps''' (real-life siblings [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and [[Matt Chapman]]) are the principal creators of the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. The brothers are [[Wikipedia:Hoosier|Hoosiers]] (as confirmed in the [[Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003|Club Aquatica interview]]) who create the cartoons using [[Macromedia Flash]] out of their home in [[Wikipedia:Decatur, Georgia|Decatur]], [[Georgia]], just east of [[Wikipedia:Atlanta, Georgia|Atlanta]]. They are sometimes referred to by the acronym '''TBC'''.

==History==
[[Image:youngtbc.jpg|thumb|As kids]]
In 1996, during the Olympics in Atlanta, Mike Chapman and his friend [[Craig Zobel]] created a children's book called "[[Original Book|The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World Contest]]." They did this out of boredom and to satirize the poorly made children's books they saw at their local mall. After writing and drawing it, they copied about 15 books and gave them to some of their friends to read for fun.

In 1999 Mike started learning Macromedia Flash and decided to practice on some of the characters from the original book. His younger brother Matt Chapman performed the voices for the cartoons and together they launched a website to show their close friends their cartoons.

Word-of-mouth spread, and their website and characters have become a smash hit. Since the website started, they have had [[Interviews and Public Appearances|several public appearances]] all over the country, including three appearances on [http://www.g4tv.com/ G4TechTV] - twice on the canceled show "Pulse", and once over webcam (with Puppet [[Homestar Runner]]) on "The Screen Savers". See [[Pulse Interview - 1 Aug 2003]] and [[The Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005]].

==Family==
[[Image:TheBrothersChapsBandW.jpg|thumb|Looking spiffy in black and white]]
The Brothers Chaps' parents are [[Don and Harriet Chapman]]. Don, who passed away on April 15th, 2006, was a retired chief financial officer of an insurance firm. Mike and Matt also have three other siblings, [[Donnie Chapman|Donnie]], [[Karen Wagner|Karen]], and Julie.

They have a [[Little Girl|young niece]], who is featured in several [[Puppet Stuff]] toons.

Mike is married to [[Missy Palmer|Melissa Palmer]], and their first child may be the [[Very, Very Little Girl]]. Matt is married to [[Jackie Chapman]], who also had a baby, which made it to the [[Main Page Message]]s.

==See Also==

*[[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments]]
*[[Interviews and Public Appearances]]

==External Links==

*[[IMDb:nm1053635|Mike Chapman's IMDb page]]
*[[IMDb:nm1480095|Matt Chapman's IMDb page]]
*[http://www.flickr.com/photos/search/tags:homestar%2Csxsw/tagmode:all/ Pictures on Flickr of their appearance at SXSW interactive 2005 in Austin, Texas]
*[http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame The Football Game] — A collection of edited photographs from a football game where The Brothers Chaps use their "superhuman abilities" against [[Wikipedia:Eric Conveys an Emotion|Emotion Eric]] and his pal Jesse. Spot the 'hidden' Homestar Runner characters in the pictures!
*[http://www.mellowmushroom.com/ The Mellow Mushroom] ([[Mellow Mushroom|article]]) website designed by The Brothers Chaps for the Georgia based pizza restaurant.
*[[Wikipedia:NASA|NASA]] [[Wikipedia:Deep Impact (space mission)|Deep Impact Mission]] [http://deepimpact1.jpl.nasa.gov/sendyourname/certificate.cfm?CertNum=526254&CertName=Homestar%20Runner Participation Certificate #526254] presented to The Brothers Chaps in the name of [[Homestar Runner]] on January 23, 2004, and [http://deepimpact1.jpl.nasa.gov/sendyourname/certificate.cfm?CertNum=45268&CertName=Homestar%20Runner Participation Certificate #45268] with date of May 11, 2003
[[Category:Chapman family members|Chaps, The Brothers]]

Talk:mascot

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:56:52 GMT

StarLion:

==What Is Valor?==
Why was my fun-fact about the valor deleted? The CGNU song "asks" 'What is valor?'. I didn't know that either so I looked in Wikipedia. This is a true fun-fact! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Well noone seems to have come forward with an explanation for deleting it so just stick it back on I say. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

And back it was put. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:03, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

And off again! [[wikipedia:Valor|Valor]] and [[wikipedia:valor device|valor device]] are different things! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh.. Sorry. I didn't know what valor realy is and valor device was the first thing that came out of Wikipedia. Maybe we could put what [[wikipedia:Valor|Valor]] is on the fun-facts? [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 14:54, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Done! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 17:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

== Baba O'Riley ==

Probably not appropriate for the article, but it is cool: At the end of the email, if you scrub your mouse over the first four notes for a while, and then the second four notes for a while, it kind of sounds like the intro to "Baba O'Riley" by the Who.--[[User:70.106.199.215|70.106.199.215]] 01:38, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Chort ==

There is a remark that states: ''"This is the first time Coach Z says The Cheat instead of The Chort."'' While true, I beleive this statement is not entirely accurate of what he is saying. The actual quote from the transcript reads: ''"Get yer head in the game, The Chort! The Cheat is wide open!"''

I beleive it's safe to assume that Coach Z is still calling The Cheat "The Chort", but does indeed say "The Cheat" correctly. I beleive he may either be referring to a "team member" of the opposing team or, (very unlikely) the Cheat himself as a member of his own team (and thus pronouncing his name right). I think the remark should read: "This is the first time we hear Coach Z say ''The Cheat'' correctly. However, he is likely not referring to The Cheat himself."

--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:08, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Mario ==
The tab key can be used to play a truncated version of the Super Mario Brothers theme. It requries a sense of timeing but the theme is farily reecognizeble. Can anybody reproduce this, I'm not very musical but have heard the Mario theme endlessly. A semi regesterd user: Aaron
:The tab order in Flash is automatically generated – if the tab order does something funny it's not TBC's doing. I can't reproduce it here, but it could be that my version of Flash gives the notes a different tab order than yours does... or maybe I'm not getting the timing right or something... Seems to be a coincidence, either way. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
::Aight, I dont know anything about programing flash and I did notice that those note combos appear in many tunes. It Just seems too perfect though, well I guess I'll just enjoy it then.
:::there are two places where it resembles the mario theme, but even those are not the actual notes in the theme, the just sound like it. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar's knees tech ==

Could Homestar's Knees Tech be reffering to [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]], when The Cheat hit Homestar on the knees with a baseball bat in order to help Strong Bad win a race? [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 18:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:While I think that is possible, I think it's more probable that it is just a general reference to injuring Homestar.
:: Wasn't Homestar hit in the ''head'' in [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]? (I don't have it in front of me now, though, so I don't know, but that'd make more sense...) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Not sure, I don't have it, but my friend does, so I haven't seen it in a while, but according to the [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] page he slides head first into the tree, so I'm not sure if getting hit in the head or flying headfirst into the tree caused his injury. However I think it would be easier for him to fly through the air if he was getting hit on the knees then on the head. [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 01:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
::IIRC (been a while since I saw the toon and I don't have it with me atm), The Cheat smacks him in the face with the bat, he goes flying backwards, hits the ground, skids a few yards, then slams into a tree. No knees involved. :) {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:51, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

== a little email never hurt nobody ==

is there a page already of those harmed in the making of strong mad emails? cause sb says that a little email never hurt nobody, except maybe the Cheat, while there have actually been many many injuries and several deaths during emails. so that should be in a fun fact. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

== Trogdor song ==

I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=mascot&diff=next&oldid=454772 removed}} this fact because it wasn't directly relevant to the article, but I thought it was a cool tidbit, so here it is:
<blockquote>The notes in the Fight Song can be played in a slightly different order, to play the Main Melody for [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]. The notes are D D A# D D G D D A# D G D F G</blockquote>
{{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Dumple ==

There's an enemy in the game [[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]] called a Water Dumple. Coincidence? I dunno. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 11:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

== Dance ==

Homestar's Dumple dance appears to be the same as that broken gif, and the cheatza party thing
:I think he uses that dance a lot. Looks like the circus dance in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

== Notes/Key remark ==
"Proper musical notation practice would dictate, however, that "A#" (A-sharp) be written as "Bb" (B-flat), since the song is in the key of F Major, which has one flat and no sharps."
:Except that Strong Bad has written this in what sounds like BASIC, so the appropriate notation would be B-. Older versions of BASIC, if my memory serves me well, didn't have flats (since A# == B- as far as the computer is concerned). --[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 18:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Periodic Table of Candy Elements

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:39:26 GMT

StarLion:

==Put the table on its own page or in the toon's trivia section?==
Um, I'm not sure a page like this will be needed. I think the table (and following fun facts) in [[candy product]] are enough. ...I guess we'll see when it's finished. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

:I concur. [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]] 22:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I liked this information on the page itself, personally. This is information describing the toon, so I think it belongs on the toon's page. The graph isn't that unweildly, is it? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

:''{In MLS Marzipan voice}'' Yeah, me too! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it looked a little awkward on the page, but i doubt it will appear in any other emails so it should stay with the candy product page itself. --[[User:Collin|Collin]] 23:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::All though I some what agree with Collin, this really deserves it's own page. It really look huge on the email page. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 00:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm fine with it. Besides, it could be used to have a link from [[Marshie|Marshie's]] page to here as something about the whole marshmallow cloud thing. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
::::::Well, if The Candy Bar gets its own page why shouldn't this? I don't think that'll appear again. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::The Candy Bar is an item. Tons of one-time items get there own pages. This is more of a... background. Plus this information is part of the email, so it belongs on its page. The Candy Bar page's is just supplementary, and not essential, to learning everything there is to know about the email. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I have an idea. Lets put this on the Candy Bar Page Under Ingredients. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 02:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::"Uh, yeah. ''That's'' [[Fall Float Parade#Easter Eggs|not true]]." - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:16, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
What? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 02:29, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:These aren't the ingredients of the candy bar. Well, some of them may be, but not enough to be placed there. And were you even listening to my comment earlier? How would putting them on that page address the issues I brought up? -_-; - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I gotta vote that this can probably just be shrunk and merged with the [[candy product]] page. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I didn't really like it on [[candy product]]. I vote for expanding it and leaving it here.
:: I suggested moving the periodic table here because when it was on the email page it was rather distracting and seemed out of place. There's no harm in its having its own page, and the email page's look is cleaner without it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
If it is eventually merged into [[candy product]], I'd like for it to be made smaller. It was way too big when it was on there before. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:52, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:If reducing its size is the price we have to pay for moving it, then I think we should leave it here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::We definitely wouldn't have to reduce it's size... I know I don't want to. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Second to all of that – it's too big to put on the article, and making it any smaller would be ugly. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
::::The image from the toon should certainly be in the article. The full table should not, though, in order to make the page less bulky. Remember, many users are on dialup and this bloats the page size considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:56, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Physical screen space and the amount of transferred HTML do not necessarily correspond to each other. The table could be tiny or huge, but as long as it contains about the same amount of textual information, then it will weigh in at just under 6 KB. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Agreed, the data size is what matters for download. But balance the current download with less scrolling and somewhat lighter download against a somewhat heavier download and much extra scrolling, and I think the current setup is preferable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::It should have its own section on the page, so viewers would not get confused. --[[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]]
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#[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#{{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
#[[User:Einstein runner|E=MC2!]]
#{{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}

==Colors of table==
I don't know whether to ask this here or on the toon talk or where, so I'll start here: Shouldn't we make the labels full black, or at least a darker color? They were only gray in the toon because they were a background element. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:I was thinking that too. It sounds fine to me either way, but if we sharpen the black, we should probably sharpen the other colors too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::I loaded the table into Photoshop and autocorrected the contrast. Then I used those values to resaturate the colors here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I for one would like to see the text more black. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::The colors as they are now are what they would have been if they hadn't been lightened for the background. Besides, the dark blue color is nice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I must have been remembering an old version. The text is fine now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Colours are now what they ''really'' would have been if it wasn't faded into the background. The table in the email is these colours, with a 17% alpha over the blue background. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I realize you got your colors from the Flash file, but it doesn't take into account the filter (or transparency or whatever) that they used. As a result, the hues are all wrong. In particular, the green column should correspond to the ''finished'' green, not the bright yellow of the Flash shape. I have put the colors back to match the finished toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Trimmed down from my spiel on IRC, for everyone to see:
<blockquote style="font-family: monospace">
<Dot_com> Phlip: when I was correcting the colors the first time, if I just hit autocorrect and didn't hold the RGB values constant relative to each other, then I got what was in the Flash file 
<Dot_com> when I *did* hold them constant relative to each other, I got what's in the article, which preserves the hues 
<Phlip> maybe, but I think my version looks better, really 
<Dot_com> I disagree; we should match the *finished* product as close as possible 
<Dot_com> the only reason we didn't go with the really light version was because it was hard to read 
<Elcool> besides, Dot com's version looks better 
<Phlip> I disagree, I think it looks kinda grody 
<Phlip> especially the yellowy-greeny put down the left 
<Phlip> when the black was also that faded colour, in the toon, it looked ok because it looked like a watermark, and your eye compensated... but with the full black it all has a puke-green tint to it 
<Phlip> all or none 
<Phlip> and not that it really matters, but I made this image to check that the colours were right: [http://members.lycos.co.uk/phlipping/candytablefade.png] 
[...] 
<Phlip> it's just... if we wanted to make it look like the toon, we'd make it the faded bluey-gray on faded bluey-colours like it is in the toon. The only reason we didn't is because we want it to look better, and be more readable, yes? 
<Phlip> I say we should do that by undoing a filter and showing what TBC actually drew, and you say we should do that by adding another filter and resaturating the colours 
<Elcool> better - everyone prefer a different color 
<Elcool> more readable - yes. it is now 
<Phlip> mine ends up looking like pastels, yours ends up looking like it's underwater 
<Elcool> as long as it's readable and close to the toon... 
<Phlip> but that's the thing, it's not close to the toon now, not really, it's much more oversaturated 
<Phlip> look at the toon, you see them as a blue-tinted yellow, red, orange and blue 
<Phlip> yellow, pink, orange and blue 
<Phlip> look at the page, you see them as green, purple, brown and blue 
<Phlip> look at mine, you see them as non-blue-tinted yellow, red, orange and blue 
<Elcool> hmmm 
<Elcool> by re-re-relooking at the email 
<Elcool> i can see your point 
<Elcool> the left one does look more yellow then green 
<Elcool> so.... you got my vote 
<Dot_com> the one in the toon looks green 
<Phlip> yeah, but it's a very yellowy green, and looks different to the green in the article, despite being the same hue 
<Elcool> for me it's like Strong Sad: 
<Elcool> yellow 
<Phlip> 'cause in the toon you compare it to the blue writing and the blue background, on the page you compare it to the black writing and the white background. 
<Dot_com> er, I dont' see that 
<Phlip> as I said, you see it as a watermark and compensate... similar to those optical illusions where they copy something out of the background and paste it in the foreground, and make it look much smaller - you compensate based on context. 
<Phlip> well, I see it like that 
<Dot_com> I see it as a bolder version of the toon</blockquote>
I don't want to make this into a vote, especially for something so minor, but it would be nice to reach concensus on this... naturally I think the pastels look better. For comparison, [[:Image:Candytable.png|here]] is the faded table from the toon, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Periodic_Table_of_Candy_Elements&oldid=292473 here] is Dot com's green version and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Periodic_Table_of_Candy_Elements&oldid=292474 here] is my pastel version. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:After comparing them all side by side, I still favor the green version. The yellow version doesn't look like what's actually in the finished email at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
::I'm definitely with It's Dot Com here. I've seen both versions, and the yellow one just looks way off. The green one, on the other hand, seems like a perfect match. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

== 316 ==

You'll note the last "element" listed is number 316. Why choose that number? Well, ever watch a baseball game and see the "John 3:16" sign held up? That's the old "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." And it's the number for "Those Wafer Things". Why else choose this number? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:Or, it could be a completely random number... Google finds 172 million pages with "316" in them, of those about 25 million contain the word "John", and of those less than 1000 contain "For God so loved the world" (There are more if you put 3:16, but very few with just 316). Besides, the closest TBC have come to religious references in H*R is "Holy" in "Holy crap", and "xmas" in the filenames for the Decemberween toons... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, there are [[Decemberween#References to Christmas|other times]] when TBC have referenced Christmas, but that's beside the point. It is an interesting coincidence, though, even though it probably is just, you know, a coincidence. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Which is why I put it here and not there. But it was interesting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Uh... Maybe I'm just missing something, not really following religion, but... what do "those wafer things" have to do with John, God, and Jesus? -[[User:YK|YK]] 06:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Body of Christ, anyone? (Not that I'm Catholic.) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::The only problem I have with this hypothesis is that I don't consider Communion wafers to be candy, and I hope neither do TBC. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::But they are indisputably wafers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Ah, I see. I'm...not a churchgoer, so I didn't know about Communion wafers. Thanks for clearing up the connection. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
316 is a [[Wikipedia:Van Halen|Van Halen]] song --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] 17:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Kinda weird ==

In school I was learning about atoms and elements when the email came out.
:I was too. Do you go to St. Marks in Buffalo, New York? [[User:69.160.0.227|69.160.0.227]]
::Oo oo! Last semester, I took chemistry! totally FREAKY! It's like the twilight zone or maybe the outer limits. or not 00:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

== Category ==

This page needs to be catagorized. Any ideas from the wikiers out there?
:I don't know...possibly food and drinks? That's all I can think of for this page. Maybe Lists, too. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}}

== "there may be others" ==
Just as an aside...there may be, but need not be - being that the PToE is built based on the number of protons in the nucleus, it may simply be that the non-numbered entries (17-102) simply don't make candy elements, instead generating other non-candy food elements. Interestingly, Karen's choice for the numbers in the Mt-Wa row (the Lanthanoid/Actinoid representative row), ISN'T numerically correct - 103 is actually the first number AFTER the Actinoids. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

secret recipes

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:08:15 GMT

StarLion: /* DVD Version */

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[[Image:SBEmail 124.PNG|thumb|The horrible truth revealed!]]

Strong Bad reveals some secret family recipes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Marzipan's House]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 14, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:34

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email, na na, na na, na na, nanaNA...

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: family recipes</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
When we grow up we want to be chefs. We wanted to know 
if you had any secret family recipes that you would want 
to share with us so....we can make them! 
 
-Melissa and Hillary (from NJ)</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Dear Strong Bad" as "The usual" and "NJ" as "Nigeria"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Mellie, Hillarious, being from Africa I'm sure you guys are used to eating, like, exotic fruits and nectars and, um, lions ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. ''{stops typing}'' Uncouth. ''{typing}'' Can something be just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. Anyways, Couthy, all our family recipes tend to center around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends and well-wishers.

''{The camera cuts back, and we see The Cheat laying on the computer desk flinging floppy disks all over.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! Let's go try out Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown!
''{His legs kick to each syllable of Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, possibly an enthusiastic "Okay!"}''

''{The Cheat stands up. The screen greys and the following text appears.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Strong Bad may or may not have an actual Great Uncle Pawdabber.

''{Cut to the field. Coach Z is standing around holding a basketball.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Man, what is this thing? ''{bounces the basketball once}'' A bounce thing?

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right. Strong Bad is holding what appears to be a bowl of ice cream with yellowish sprinkles, and The Cheat is wearing a towel around his waist.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, The Cheat! Wow! Look at this! It's our best friend, Coach Z. Say there, Coach, would you like to try some of our free icèd-c-cream? It's got toasted coconut!

'''COACH Z:''' How could I refuse? ''{throws the basketball over his shoulder}'' I can't afford the money-cost variety!

''{The basketball can be seen falling behind the trees in the background.}''

''{Coach Z takes the ice cream and starts pigging out on it.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooh! Sweet mercy! ''{He eats some more.}'' This is orful! ''{He eats more.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, it's OK, Coach. You're the proud new eater of a healthy bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur.

''{Coach Z drops the bowl in shock. Strong Bad pulls away The Cheat's towel to reveal that he's been shaved from the waist down.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{He starts making disgusted noises and coughing up fur.}'' Oof! I think I'm going to puke my pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Please don't elaborate on that.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{talking normally}'' Naw, it's easy. I do it all the time! Here, let me show ya's!

'''STRONG BAD:''' AUGH!

'''THE CHEAT:''' MEEH!

''{Strong Bad and the Cheat run away as Coach Z continues talking.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You take your pants...

''{A recipe card appears on screen reading as follows.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">Recipe: 
Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend 
Ice Cream Showdown 
 
Ingredients: 
3 scoops (really) sour cream 
1/2 of shaved The Cheat 
1 bowl 
1 languagely challenged vaguely coach type person 
 
Instructions: 
Mix ingredients until golden brown</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' For best results, dip The Cheat in egg wash before shaving or else he'll get those red shaving bumpies all over him. Ugh.

''{Cut to the side of the King of Town's castle.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' All right, we're mixing this next one up on them, The Cheat. I filled this old Speed Stick—

''{He pulls out some underarm deodorant reading "X-treme Glacier."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —with white chocolate and we'll totally gross out or make puke The King of Town when I start eatin' it in front of him!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to inside the castle. The King of Town is watching TV and eating the same type of Speed Stick we saw Strong Bad with. He also has some more underarm deodorants and spray cans in a bowl next to him.}''

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' You can't marry your guitar, Caleb!

'''CALEB:''' I can try!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey Ole King Droll! Checka me out! I'm eatin'—oh. Never mind.

''{The King of Town picks up a spray can and sprays it in his mouth, then resumes eating the Speed Stick}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, shoulda known...

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat walk out.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No, wait, you guys! Come back! This stuff is strong enough for a man but tasty enough for a king! Don't you want to try any Forest Rush? Or Tundra Mist?

''{A recipe card spins onscreen reading as follows}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">Recipe: 
Crazy Aunt Eulatherm's Deodorant 
Doppelganger 
 
Ingredients: 
6 oz. white chocolate 
1/2 of shaved The Cheat (for moral support) 
1 kinda cleaned-out De-odor Cake 
 
Instructions: 
Mix ingredients. Preheat oven. Add hot sauce 
if necessary</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, how come deodorants and stuff are always named after biomes anyways?

''{Cut to Marzipan's house. Marzipan is sitting on the couch reading The Latest News. Homestar walks in carrying one of Strong Bad's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown bowls.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, girlfriend, have you tried any of this free ice cream Strong Bad made?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{setting aside her paper, clearly amused}'' Homestar, didn't anyone tell you? That's, like, cottage cheese and The Cheat hair!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' WHAT!? ''{He does a spit take, producing some fur.}'' Strong Bad told me it was ''sour cream'' and The Cheat hair! Looks like this is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's Goodtime Diaper Pie!

''{Homestar walks offscreen to the left. The screen greys and the following text appears on it.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Homestar Runner definitely does not have a Stupid Uncle Egg.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer room. A pinecone and bendy straw are in a bowl with a sign next to it reading "not A pimecone, diaper pie! i mean reg-ular pie." Strong Bad and The Cheat walk in. The Cheat is now wearing yellow sticky notes, some with black dots on them, to try to cover up his shaved area.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, it looks ''totally'' real. I swear, no one'll be able to tell! Oh, what's this?

''{Strong Bad picks up the sign and reads it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "Not a pimecone." Well, he's got that right!

''{Homestar pokes his head in from the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, look, it's my best friends Cheat and The Strong Bad! Hey, I heard you guys been eatin' some serious regular pie in here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah, man! We've even got some left over if you want it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well if it's anywhere near as good as your free ice cream!

''{Homestar puts the pine cone in his mouth and starts crunching it up. The Cheat and Strong Bad look at each other incredulously.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{with his mouth full}'' Well, so long, suckers!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' It's like, even when we win, he wins.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' There you go girls. Recipes for the ages. But if you really want to be chefs when you grow up, we've got a super-secret family recipe for cooking the C-H-E-blank-T ''{types this as "C H E _ T"}''

''{The Cheat makes a very angry noise from offscreen and chucks a floppy disk reading "YOU JERK!" at Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ow! ''{typing}'' And of course that blank is for the letter K. The Chekt. My family's got a great recipe for cooking the Chekt. Yeah, yeah. ''{He only types one "yeah."}'' We're mostly from Bumdumbourge. It's near, uh, Totalslava. "Come down off that smokestack and eat your the Chekt!" my poopaw used to say. Ah, my dear poopaw, I miss you so.

''{The Paper comes down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispering}'' I think the Cheat bought it. Let me know if you want that recipe.

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on "grow up" to hear a few seconds of the television program the King of Town was watching.
::''{Cut back to the King of Town's castle. The TV is still on.}''
::'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Caleb, that hamburger was mine!
::'''CALEB:''' It's mine now!
*At the end, click on "C H E _ T" to see The Cheat reading a book entitled "So You Want to Cook a Wrestleman?", with a picture of The Cheat putting a lid on a pot with Strong Bad in it.
*At the end, click on the left "poopaw" to hear the narrator's disclaimer about Strong Bad's poopaw.
::'''NARRATOR:''' I, uh, I don't even know what a poopaw is.
*At the end, click on "the Chekt" to see another recipe.

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">From the Kitchen of Poopaw 
Chicken-fried the CHEKT 
 
Ingredients: 
3 or 7 medium sized the Chekts 
2 salt 
40 pancakes 
 
Instructions: 
Get down off smokestack. Then cook that 
ugly thing.</blockquote>

''{"Bumdumbourge '96" appears as a watermark on the recipe card.}''

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*A [[Wikipedia:Biome|biome]] is a major regional group of distinctive plant and animal communities well adapted to that region's physical environment (for example, Tundra, Forest, etc.).
*[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=couth "Couth"] means "possessing a high degree of sophistication" or "refined".
=== Trivia ===
*When Strong Bad is talking to The Cheat flinging the discs, if you manage to zoom in on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy's]] screen, you'll find out that some different stuff is typed in (not all of it is visible due to Strong Bad's head blocking the Lappy screen):
<blockquote class="lappy email">
so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. Can something be 
just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. 
I wouldn't put that past him. Not that you could put 
anything past that guy. Y'know on account of he's so fat. 
And maybe standing in a really narrow alleyway of some 
 
around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends 
and well-wishers.</blockquote>

*Marzipan's Newspaper repeats the following paragraph as many times as necessary to fill up the pages.
<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000;width:180px">
'''The Latest News''' 
 
It’s all true. All the 
rumors are true. The 
crime is on the rise 
in our very own 
town. Trust me on 
this one. I know 
what I’m talking 
about. No, wait. I 
don’t. I make stuff 
up sometimes. 
That’s cool though, 
right? Good. I’ll 
keep doing it then. 
It’s a lot easy than 
fact checking. That 
stuff can be 
annoying.
</blockquote>
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#battle chess|battle chess]]". The floppy disk that The Cheat throws at Strong Bad reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#you JERK|you JERK!]]"
*This is the first appearance of [[deodorant]].

=== Remarks ===
*The way Marzipan is sitting is evidence against the theory that Marzipan's lower body is skirt-shaped.
*Strong Bad refers to a "Totalslava". "Slava" means "fame" or "glory" in multiple [[Wikipedia:Slavic languages|Slavic languages]] such as [[Wikipedia:Czech language|Czech]] (sláva) and [[Wikipedia:Russian language|Russian]] (слава).

*This is the only time when we see Homestar with the "one-eyebrow-up-one-eyebrow-down" expression.
*When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds as if it's bouncing on cement or asphalt.
*The recipe card says to use a "1 kinda cleaned-out De-odor Cake". Strong Bad uses "X-treme Glacier".

=== Goofs ===
*After Strong Bad types "well-wishers." and the camera zooms out to Strong Bad and The Cheat, there is a blank strip of black two lines above the "well-wishers" line that had been filled in before.
*When Strong Bad reads the "pimecone" card, the computer screen is almost blank except for "and well-wishers." written in the same area where Strong Bad typed it before.
*In Marzipan's newspaper, the word "easy" should be "easier".
*During the "I'm gonna puke my pants!" scene, Strong Bad's mouth is partly off his head.
*During the "So You Want to Cook a Wrestleman?" Easter Egg, the scribbling on the post-it note closest to the ground flickers slightly during the animation.
*When Strong Bad gives Coach Z the "ice cream", his right (your left) eye seems slightly too small, even with distance.

=== Inside References ===
*The newspaper Marzipan is reading is the exact same one (down to the repeating text) she was reading in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*The book in the Easter egg is titled "So You Want to Cook a [[Wrestleman]]", a word that has described Strong Bad previously.
*On the first recipe card where it says "Mix ingredients until golden brown" may be reference to the [[Homestar Quiz]] after you win.
*The towel that the Cheat is wearing appears to be either the same as, or very similar to, the one worn by Homestar in "[[Main Page 14]]."
*The use of the '96 on the card is quite possibly a reference to the year that [[Original Book|the original Homestar Runner book]] was created, during the [[Wikipedia:1996 Summer Olympics|1996 Summer Olympics]] held in Atlanta, Georgia.
*The narrator's voice is the same voice that originally announced Strong Bad's test sentence in the email [[radio]].
*The bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur is another example of a [[concoction]].

=== Real-World References ===
*[http://www.colgate.com/app/Speedstick/US/HomePage.cvsp "Speed Stick"] is an actual brand of underarm deodorant.
*"Old King Droll" is possibly a play on the nursery rhyme "[[Wikipedia:Old King Cole|Old King Cole]]".
*The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to [http://www.secret.com/ "Secret" brand deodorant] ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman."

===Fast Forward===
* The television show watched by the King appears again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. In that toon, we discover the name of the show is ''[[Caleb Rentpayer]]''.
*In the email [[rock opera]], Strong Bad types "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh '''chekts'''" due to the Cheat throwing roses onto the keyboard.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Craig Zobel]])

'''MIKE:''' Uh oh. Strong Bad's here.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, it's true, you guys. Who's gonna tolerate it?

'''RYAN:''' It's gonna—It's chronicling one of your greatest pranks yet.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right. You guys were around for this. Huh? Were you?

'''RYAN:''' We watched it all on TVD.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, me too.

'''MIKE:''' Really the only good thing about this email is the introduction of "Caleb Rentpayer."

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{angrily}'' What? Why you gonna... jock me like that?

'''RYAN:''' I disagree, Mike.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —Downplay my accomplishments. Look, I just accused those girls of eating lions. ''{Mike laughs}'' That's great! I think there's just— The abbreviation "NJ" means Nigeria. ''{Mike laughs}'' That is comedy at its finest.

'''MIKE:''' That's pretty funny.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Brian!

'''MIKE:''' Uhh, that's pretty good right there; the making puke of—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Exactly.

'''MIKE:''' Kinda switch up the word—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look! What's The Cheat doing, man?

'''CRAIG:''' What's the game of the day, Ryan?

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's tossing my stuff all over.

'''RYAN:''' Battle Chess. ''{pause}'' Pawdabber.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, this is good.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That guy is clueless.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' He doesn't even know what a basketball is.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I was gonna start calling him "Z" cause he does not— He's not a coach of anything.

'''CRAIG:''' I should have guessed what was gonna happen with the towel around him, but—

'''MIKE:''' Did you not know?

'''CRAIG:''' No, it's talking about—

'''MIKE:''' ''I'' knew.

'''CRAIG:''' I asked Steve about it, too... when I first watched it. Why does The Cheat have a towel around him? ''{Mike chuckles}'' And then you find out!

'''MIKE:''' I had made a shaved The Cheat several weeks prior just— I think just to have. I just—

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's nice to have a shaved The Cheat lying around.

'''RYAN:''' Ohhh hooo ohh...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh. And the fact that when Coach Z coughs up you see the little hairs come out. Oh, puke my pants. That's—

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ryan Sterritt made that up. Ryan? Talk about it.

'''MIKE:''' Yet another example of us stealing—

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least—

'''MIKE:''' —from our friends.

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least you pay this guy.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ryan, give 'em— Tell 'em how where it came from.

'''RYAN:''' Uh...I did it once ''{Everyone laughs}'' and it kind of grossed me out. So, it became a recurring joke.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Puke my pants. Why not?

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Something I should not want to do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So this was based on a prank that Matt had when he was a kid. He always wanted to play was wash out an old speed stick, fill it with white chocolate, and then gross some kids out in the locker room after gym class.

'''RYAN:''' We talked briefly about adding a randomizer to the names of the deodorants—

'''MIKE:''' Oh, right.

'''RYAN:''' But we never got around to—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mike made a bunch of sweet, sweet deodorant names.

'''MIKE:''' It was fun coming up with—

'''STRONG BAD:''' other biomes.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Deodorant names.

'''RYAN:''' Like those band namer things. You know, you pick like four prefixes and four words like "mountain" and "glaciers."

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's true. I don't have a Crazy Aunt Eulatherm, honestly.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Ahhh. Doesn't surprise me. I don't know if I believe very much of what you say.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look! That's a rare shot of Marzipan sitting down.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''RYAN:''' Can we "zoom in" on that paper?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, it says the same thing over and over again, doesn't it, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah. And it says the same thing from the Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Marzipan needs to get a new subscription. ''{Mike laughs}'' She's such a recycler that she just reads the same paper that she got so many years ago.

'''RYAN:''' Uhh—

'''STRONG BAD:''' That looks great. Mike, remember when you made your wife a post-it note dress?

'''MIKE:''' I did. She—

'''STRONG BAD:''' She didn't want to wear—

'''RYAN:''' She was very excited, wasn't she?

'''MIKE:''' It's still in my closet. ''{laughter}'' Not hers.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It wasn't very flattering. It kinda look like a—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' It looked just like a potato sack—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''RYAN:''' Uhh—

'''MIKE:''' made out of post-it notes.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's true.

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' It's the thought that—

'''MIKE:''' Right. Remember the thought?

'''RYAN:''' The girls don't remember the thought.

'''MIKE:''' They don't. They just want—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dudes. Dudes do.

'''MIKE:''' a good looking dress.

'''CRAIG:''' ''{overlapping}'' That was foleyed by, um, I almost ate the chips and I got reprimanded for eating the chips that were left over—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's right because I had to...and Mike and Matt had to—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' We had Mo—We had some Moe's Nacho Chips and saved them.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{theme park tour guide-styled monotone voice}'' Welcome to Moe's.

'''CRAIG:''' ''{deep voice, slow}'' Moe's.

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's always the really ''{monotone voice again}'' depressed guy. At the end. ''{normal voice}'' Or they just go "Muhhhhh" ''{pause}'' What did that one say? That disk?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know what that one said.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Somebody slow it back down. Play it again, Ryan—

'''MIKE:''' Call us up, let us know.

'''RYAN:''' ''{imitates rewind noise of a tape}'' There you go.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What did it say?

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Good game, boys.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Good game, boys.

'''STRONG BAD:''' OK.

'''RYAN:''' I think it was an action game?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Totalslava. You guys?

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing to himself}'' Poopaw.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So did this mean that I am— I have Euro—Eastern-European roots?

'''MIKE:''' ''{quickly}'' Yes.

''{After The Paper comes down, there is a pause}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not over.—

'''RYAN:''' We finish quick every time.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' That's right, guys. Every time 'cause ''{begins to whisper; decrescendo}'' we don't remember cartoons after we're finished making them!

===Fun Facts===
*[http://www.moes.com Moe's] is a southwestern grill restaurant chain popular in the southeastern United States. One of their hallmarks is that the kitchen staff call out "Welcome to Moe's!" whenever someone enters.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|124|2014}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:extra plug

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:28:31 GMT

StarLion: /* Deathtrack */

==Transcribing Easter Eggs==
Why was some of the dialogue removed from the Transcript? I thought that easter eggs that required just sitting around and waiting were expected to be placed in the Transcripts. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 12:00, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

OK, since nobody has answered this query, I've done some looking around on the Wiki and have now become quite confused. Apparently, while the official transcription policy says that all easter eggs are not to be transcribed, quite a few old sbemail transcriptions contain the transcripts of Easter Eggs that require you sit at your computer like a good boy and wait, including the transcripts for [[caper]], [[theme park]], [[cartoon]], [[the process]], and [[lunch special]]. So, which is it now? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:23, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

:We transcribe everything. The non-clickable eggs (just sit there and it happens) go in the Transcript, the clickable ones go in the Easter Eggs. This was kind of discussed [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Standards#Since_when_do_we_not_transcribe_easter_eggs.3F here], but never really gone over.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:01, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

::That's what I thought. Restoring the axed text now. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 18:16, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Good E-mail ==

I think the Bros. have finally come out of their slump. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Best email since long time -- PS

== I bwoke it ==

Sorry. I made a mistake. I put just Strong instead of Strong Sad on trivia. Yous guys can edit it. -Kinsey

== Song ==

What's up with Homestar's song?

:I think he really had to pee.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== Solid state? ==

I know I'm like a year late here, but... the remark about "solid state replacing vaccum tube technology" may be incorrect. In this particular context, "solid state" means "no moving parts". For example, a USB harddrive and a USB memory stick are both storage devices. The memory stick is solid state, since it's just a bunch of microchips, whereas the harddrive is not solid state, as it uses a spinning platter and mobile read-write heads. "This is funny, you see, because the so-called Solid State boots apparently use a large and noisy vaccum cleaner motor, which is definitely not solid state technology." [[User:207.96.8.128|207.96.8.128]] 17:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you for your comment. I've integrated your points into the revised Remark:

*Solid state refers to transistor electronics, vs. old vacuum tube technology. In the '50s through perhaps the mid-'70s (which seems like it might be the period from which the boots came), manufacturers would stamp "solid state" on their various devices, signifying that they were state-of-the-art. These so-called "Solid State" boots apparently use a large and noisy vaccum cleaner motor, which is definitely not solid state technology.

:Feel free to change it further if you think it needs it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

::I've twiddled it slightly to "vaccum tube or mechanical technology". That oughtta do it. [[User:207.96.8.128|207.96.8.128]] 18:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== Invisible arms? ==

Could Homestar having a rope tied around his torso be a possible argument for invisible arms vs. telekinesis? Normally a rope in that position would only be useful for restraining the arms. Or maybe Homesar is just so stupid that he thinks he's tied up anyway. [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 10:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

:You could add that argumant in [[Lack of Visible Arms]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

== Black Eyes ==

After the power goes out, Strong Bad's eyes loose their green color in the dark even though in the next scene they're normal again. Is this a goof or just me? --[[User:Sabra|Sabra]] 07:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

== Deathtrack ==

Mike comments that he can't remember if it's Activision or Dynamix which came out with Deathtrack - it was both. Dynamix developed it, Activision published it (and so, put their name prominently on the box). The Fun Fact at the bottom goes on about the Atari, but Deathtrack was a DOS game released in 1989. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 16:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:nightlife

StarLion — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:55:51 GMT

StarLion: /* S to the B */

replacement

StarLion — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:04:05 GMT

StarLion: /* Remarks */ redundant

{{sbenav|105}}
[[Image:replacement.png|thumb|"Please don't dig up the grave."]]

Strong Bad looks for a replacement for when he retires from answering emails.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Stages|The Stage]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:22

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Our next show, is a family show. It...is...the email.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class= "compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Have you ever thought who will take 
your place when you retire? 
 
Your friend, 
Jeffrey Desterhoft</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You've got a good point there, Jeffy. I suppose I can't keep checking these e-mails forever. I never really thought about finding an heir to my throne before. Come to think of it, what ever happened to my throne?

''{Strong Bad stops typing, picks up a phone, and talks into it, making a sound like a loudspeaker in a supermarket}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Attention The Cheat. Customer needs assistance in e-mail. Customer needs assistance in e-mail.

''{Strong Bad puts down the phone, which is not attached to anything. The Cheat arrives in a blue employee's vest with his name on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, didn't I used to have a throne of some kind?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{points at the stool and makes The Cheat noises.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no, this is my ''stool''. I'm talking about a ''throne''. You know, it had, like...gold nuggets on it, and...a hundred cup holders...some of them velvety cushions...you know, a ''throne''. And I think I had a motorcycle, too. See if you can find those.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I guess the best way to find a replacement is to subject a bunch of applicants to the same rigorous screening process that I subjected myself to ''{begins to sound unsure of what he is saying}'' when I started checking these emails?

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Homestar standing in the Field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm gonna hold up a last name, and you make fun of it. ''{holds up a cue card with the word "Gargleman" written on it}'' Gargleman.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{holds up a cue card that reads "Dumweiner"}'' Dumweiner.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhhhh, Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{changes cue card to "Butkus"}'' Butkus.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{changes cue card to "Crambert"}'' Crambert.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Crapface?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{changes cue card to "Desterhoft"}'' Desterhoft.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let me think about it; ''{without hesitation}'' Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Perfect score!

''{Cut to the computer room with Strong Bad and Coach Z in front of the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's hear your best "deleted."

''{He presses a button on the keyboard and the Compy displays DELETED on a blue background, making the standard DELETED sound.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893; text-align:center">DELETED!</blockquote>

'''COACH Z:''' DELORTED!

''{The Compy flashes DELORTED on a yellow background and makes a distorted version of the DELETED sound. Strong Bad looks surprised.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#8B8B00; text-align:center">DELORTED!</blockquote>

''{Cut to the basement with Strong Bad and Bubs and a cardboard box with Strong Sad drawn on it sitting on the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Sad's on the couch, watching TV. What do you do?

'''BUBS:''' Kick him in the teeth!

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's good, that's good, even though he might not have any teeth. What else?

'''BUBS:''' Kick him in the grill!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, yeah! Keep going!

'''BUBS:''' ''{turns to face Strong Bad}'' Kick ''you'' in the grill!

''{Bubs starts to approach Strong Bad, waving his arms and yelling menacingly}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{nervously}'' No, no, Bubs, calm down, this is only a drill!

''{Cut to Marzipan's house with Strong Bad and Marzipan holding [[Carol]].}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's hear your best "scroll buttons" song.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing and playing the guitar}'' And that's why I like to scroll, with scroll buttons!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Oh, right, right, the worst song I ever heard. Play another one!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing and playing the guitar}'' Scroll buttons are good, they move you up and down, they take you to...

''{Strong Bad groans. Cut to the basement, with Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and the same cardboard box with Strong Sad on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, Strong Sad, Strong Sad's on the couch, watching TV. What do you do?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Go make him some hummus!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hummus?! No, try something else.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh... Give him a foot massage!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looks at Strong Sad's [[soolnds]]}'' Those are not feet!

''{Cut to the field with Homestar, Strong Bad and The Cheat. The Cheat is wearing a cardboard box that has a drawing of himself on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now I want you to pretend this is The Cheat, and give him a good, swift, kick in The Cheat!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{bends one of his legs back, then pauses}'' Umm... ''{puts his leg back down}'' Crapface.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in front of his computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh. ''{typing}'' This screening process is neither processing nor screening very well. I suppose I should cut to the chase and haul out the big guns...DANCE CONTEST!

''{Cut to a stage. Music is playing. We see the top part of Strong Bad's head watching each contestant. The first contestant is Marzipan, who spins her ponytail around while moving her head left and right. Cut to Coach Z, who taps his right foot while waving his arms. Cut to Strong Sad simply twitching his fingers. Cut to Bubs shaking his arms while jumping up and down. Cut to Strong Mad, who simply stands in place and yells.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I'M STRONG MAD! I'M STRONG MAD!

''{Cut to Homsar, who shuffles his feet all along the stage. The camera then cuts to and zooms in on Homestar, who is lit by a spotlight. The music changes to the ending of a slow, dramatic song.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' And then I put it on my faaaaace...

''{Cut to Strong Bad at his computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Uh, this dance contest is neither contesting nor dancing very well. Looks like I'm gonna be checking e-mails and kicking Cheats 'til the day I die. ''{stops typing}'' Whoa, that'd make an awesome tattoo! Or an even better epitaph!

''{Cut to the field at night. A blank tombstone is on the foreground, and as we hear Strong Bad's voice, his words are carved on the slab.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Here lies Strong Bad

''{underneath, in slightly smaller letters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' "Checking e-mails and kicking Cheats in the hereafter"

''{underneath}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Buried with his hundred girlfriends

''{underneath}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And like, a jillion dollars

''{underneath, in even smaller letters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Please don't dig up the grave.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on the word "Cheats" to see another exchange between Strong Bad and The Cheat:

:''{Cut to The Cheat near his light switch, still wearing his uniform.}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen, into speakerphone}'' A-ttention The Cheat!

:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' Have you found that motorcycle yet? ''{slight pause}'' Maybe check in our...stock room.

:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' And Dana needs more quarters on register three.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Hummus|Hummus]] is a paste of pureed chickpeas usually mixed with sesame oil or sesame paste and eaten as a dip or sandwich spread.

=== Trivia ===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#alone in the dark|alone in the dark]]".

===Remarks===
[[Image:delorted.png|thumb|DELORTED!]]
*Strong Bad uses a [[disconnected telephone]].


*Strong Bad doesn't interview Strong Mad or Homsar, yet they still take part in the dance contest; he also doesn't interview The Cheat.
*The text on the Compy during the interview with Coach Z is the same text that he finished writing before the first interview with Homestar, which may mean that he deleted the e-mail that he was replying to.
*The visible "DELET" part of the [[DELETED]] text is the same size as the "DELOR" part of Coach Z's "DELORTED". At that size, part of the final D and the exclamation point (which are included in the Flash file) wouldn't fit on the screen.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat turns to the left screen and exits, the nametag on the right side of his vest moves to the left side and is reversed.
*The sign above Marzipan normally reads "Thank You". In this email, it appears to be blank due to a positioning error in the Flash file.
*Since the font called Engravers is used, the first quotation mark on Strong Bad's gravestone is backwards.
*At the end of the email the moon is facing the back of the gravestone, but the shadow is in front of the moon and the other side is bright.

===Inside References===
*Homestar's repeated use of "crap[[Names Ending in -face|face]]" is related to the way he answered his first SB Email in [[50 emails]].
*Bubs's moves in the dance contest come from the game [[Dancin' Bubs]].
*Strong Bad first [[Kicking The Cheat|kicked The Cheat]] in [[little animal]].

===Real-World References===
*The Cheat is wearing a blue uniform, typical of [[Wikipedia:Wal-Mart|Wal-Mart]] employees, but Strong Bad uses a red phone, typical of [[Wikipedia:Target Corporation|Target]] stores.
*The name "Butkus" refers to [[Wikipedia:Chicago Bears|Chicago Bears]] Hall-Of-Fame linebacker [[Wikipedia:Dick Butkus|Dick Butkus]].
*A [[wikipedia:Grill (jewelry)|Grill]] most likely refers to the dental object people (most prominently rappers) wear on their teeth, but can also mean the mouth/teeth themselves.
*Coach Z's dance is similar to a popular [[Wikipedia:Hardcore punk|hardcore]] dance referred to as "Shootin' the arrow".

===Fast Forward===
*Marzipan's first scroll button song was later used on the [[Scroll Button Songs|Strong Bad Email Menu]], despite him saying that it was the worst song he ever heard.
*Strong Bad would later decide to not die at all in [[your funeral]].
*Marzipan's dance moves would be seen again in [[nightlife]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creator's commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' What's he's saying right now is from an old audio recording that I made.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, Matt, before we had a video camera, he and his friend, you know, would just make movies and...

'''MATT:''' Radio plays!

'''MIKE:''' On, aha, on audio cassette! He had a bad tape recorder.

'''MATT:''' And our friend TJ said that, and he could, he was like four or something and couldn't talk very well, or at least couldn't re-memorize lines at the time 'cuz he was so young, and it was called "The Hostess Cake": "Our next show is a family show. It is... The Hostess Cake"... Mike, how did he do that with his voice?! That phone's clearly not plugged in!

'''MIKE:''' It's like Coach Z's phone from another cartoon. I dunno. I dunno, Matt. I just make the cartoons.

'''MATT:''' That's clearly a Wal-Mart vest that The Cheat is wearing there, I think, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Also, there's "Alone in the Dark" back there. Is that... this is, okay, this is before that horrible "Alone in the Dark" movie that just came out.

'''MATT:''' Oh, yeah, did that already come out?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah! It was just in the theater for, like, two days.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Bad idea.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' So, what are we— Which one is this? Replacements?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, he's trying to find an heir to the throne!

'''MATT:''' Oooooh.

''{pause until Strong Bad holds up the "Desterhoft" card}''

'''MIKE:''' Hey, that's the name of the guy that sent the email!

'''MATT:''' That's a funny name.

'''MIKE:''' ''{imitates the "Deleted" buzzer, then again as Strong Bad DELETEs the email}''

'''MATT:''' ''{of "DELORTED"}'' Oof. That brown screen is gross. I like it. Now this is our friend [[Craig Zobel]], who... you all know. His favorite thing ever on our website is right here where Bubs attacks Strong Bad.

'''MIKE:''' That's just me being ba— being a lazy animator. It wasn't supposed to be funny.

'''MATT:''' ''{partially over the last line}'' No, that was you being a genius.

'''MIKE:''' It wasn't supposed to be funny.

'''MATT:''' It's hilarious.

'''MIKE:''' Didn't you record Strong Bad singing one of these scroll buttons songs for the scroll button menu?

'''MATT:''' Mm-hmm. I did.

'''MIKE:''' We oughta use that.

'''MATT:''' Never have. Maybe we should. It's been the same one for a while now.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{of the box with Strong Sad's image}'' That Strong Sad drawing is pretty great. The Cheat clearly drew that for him. ''{after Strong Bad's "Those are not feet.}'' What are they called, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Soolnds?

'''MATT:''' Soolnd.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''MIKE:''' So we got a dance party coming up where Coach Z is doing our friend Claire's dance.

'''MATT:''' Mm-hmm. I remember... that's a good dance.

'''MIKE:''' There it is.

'''MATT:''' The Claire dance. I don't know if Claire knows that we have Coach Z doing her dance.

'''MIKE:''' Does she know we have a name for her dance?

'''MATT:''' I don't know if she knows that either. I hope she doesn't get mad.

'''MIKE:''' I did all this. That's why the dances are pretty lame.

'''MATT:''' Homestar is singing in a dance contest, Mike. He doesn't, he obviously doesn't know what's going on.

'''MIKE:''' Even if it was a singing contest, it was a pretty bad song.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' I dunno what he's talking about, but I dunno what he just put on his face.

''{they laugh}''

'''MATT:''' It's a great song, I think. It's very interesting. It makes you wonder. What did— and what happened that spawned that?

'''MIKE:''' I don't wanna know.

''{pause until The Paper}''

'''MIKE:''' That's it.

'''MATT:''' Preeow.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]] is a manufacturer of various snack cakes and pastries, most famously the [[Wikipedia:Twinkie|Twinkie]].
*The critically panned 2005 film ''[[IMDB:tt0369226|Alone in the Dark]]'', a box-office failure, was based on the video game of the same name, which was in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] in this email.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|105|164}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:Computer Room

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:38:48 GMT

StarLion: /*Image Inconsistancy*/

==Contents of former "Stool" article==
Should we merge this with [[Computer Room]]?. The Stool is hardly unique in and off itself.- [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:00, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)
:I agree. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:I agree aswell. This article is pointless →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:04, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Image Inconsistency==
Okay, this has to be called up (again, I guess). If anyone has other things to bring to/contradict this please do.

Presented Facts:
*[[techno]] : The Lightswitch area has no carpet under it. There is a table on the right hand side of the lightswitch area, with no carpet under the left side.
*[[no loafing]] : In the 80's, Strong Bad's computer was on the previously mentioned table. There was also carpet under the area which would become the Lightswitch area, indicating some sort of issue involving that piece of carpet.
*[[flashback]] : Strong Bad's current-era computer desk has carpet under it's left side.

'''Possible Resolution:''' There is a second table in the room, to the left of Strong Bad's Computer. In the 80's, Strong Bad kept his computer here, but at some point moved it. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 23:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

User:StarLion

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:00:30 GMT

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==Who Am I?==
I am me. Who are you?

Since several people have asked/mentioned it... yes, I am/was a computer science major. I get paid to do programming work for websites, specializing in PHP and mySQL integration. I am also currently trying to find a job... and at the same time, figure out what it is I want to do as a job. Unfortunately, TBC don't seem to need my abilities ;P

If you haven't figured out from the userboxes, I live in (well, right outside) Atlanta, Georgia, and have way too much free time on my hands.

==What have I Done?==
Well lets see:
*Comments: I usually comment on things I find or have questions about. Most of the time, I even make sense! Though... i seem to be unable to remember to sign my comments -_-
*Transcripts: I transcribed [[nightlife]].

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StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:53:06 GMT

StarLion: /*Remarks*/ Gonna remove this, see talk page.

{{sbenav|105}}
[[Image:replacement.png|thumb|"Please don't dig up the grave."]]

Strong Bad looks for a replacement for when he retires from answering emails.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Stages|The Stage]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:22

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Our next show, is a family show. It...is...the email.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class= "compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Have you ever thought who will take 
your place when you retire? 
 
Your friend, 
Jeffrey Desterhoft</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You've got a good point there, Jeffy. I suppose I can't keep checking these e-mails forever. I never really thought about finding an heir to my throne before. Come to think of it, what ever happened to my throne?

''{Strong Bad stops typing, picks up a phone, and talks into it, making a sound like a loudspeaker in a supermarket}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Attention The Cheat. Customer needs assistance in e-mail. Customer needs assistance in e-mail.

''{Strong Bad puts down the phone, which is not attached to anything. The Cheat arrives in a blue employee's vest with his name on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, didn't I used to have a throne of some kind?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{points at the stool and makes The Cheat noises.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no, this is my ''stool''. I'm talking about a ''throne''. You know, it had, like...gold nuggets on it, and...a hundred cup holders...some of them velvety cushions...you know, a ''throne''. And I think I had a motorcycle, too. See if you can find those.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I guess the best way to find a replacement is to subject a bunch of applicants to the same rigorous screening process that I subjected myself to ''{begins to sound unsure of what he is saying}'' when I started checking these emails?

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Homestar standing in the Field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm gonna hold up a last name, and you make fun of it. ''{holds up a cue card with the word "Gargleman" written on it}'' Gargleman.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{holds up a cue card that reads "Dumweiner"}'' Dumweiner.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhhhh, Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{changes cue card to "Butkus"}'' Butkus.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{changes cue card to "Crambert"}'' Crambert.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Crapface?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{changes cue card to "Desterhoft"}'' Desterhoft.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let me think about it; ''{without hesitation}'' Crapface.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Perfect score!

''{Cut to the computer room with Strong Bad and Coach Z in front of the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's hear your best "deleted."

''{He presses a button on the keyboard and the Compy displays DELETED on a blue background, making the standard DELETED sound.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893; text-align:center">DELETED!</blockquote>

'''COACH Z:''' DELORTED!

''{The Compy flashes DELORTED on a yellow background and makes sort of a bouncing sound. Strong Bad looks surprised.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#8B8B00; text-align:center">DELORTED!</blockquote>

''{Cut to the basement with Strong Bad and Bubs and a cardboard box with Strong Sad drawn on it sitting on the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Sad's on the couch, watching TV. What do you do?

'''BUBS:''' Kick him in the teeth!

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's good, that's good, even though he might not have any teeth. What else?

'''BUBS:''' Kick him in the grill!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, yeah! Keep going!

'''BUBS:''' ''{turns to face Strong Bad}'' Kick ''you'' in the grill!

''{Bubs starts to approach Strong Bad, waving his arms and yelling menacingly}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{nervously}'' No, no, Bubs, calm down, this is only a drill!

''{Cut to Marzipan's house with Strong Bad and Marzipan holding [[Carol]].}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's hear your best "scroll buttons" song.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing and playing the guitar}'' And that's why I like to scroll, with scroll buttons!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Oh, right, right, the worst song I ever heard. Play another one!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing and playing the guitar}'' Scroll buttons are good, they move you up and down, they take you to...

''{Strong Bad groans. Cut to the basement, with Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and the same cardboard box with Strong Sad on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, Strong Sad, Strong Sad's on the couch, watching TV. What do you do?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Go make him some hummus!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hummus?! No, try something else.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh... Give him a foot massage!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looks at Strong Sad's [[soolnds]]}'' Those are not feet!

''{Cut to the field with Homestar, Strong Bad and The Cheat. The Cheat is wearing a cardboard box that has a drawing of himself on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now I want you to pretend this is The Cheat, and give him a good, swift, kick in The Cheat!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{bends one of his legs back, then pauses}'' Umm... ''{puts his leg back down}'' Crapface.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in front of his computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh. ''{typing}'' This screening process is neither processing nor screening very well. I suppose I should cut to the chase and haul out the big guns...DANCE CONTEST!

''{Cut to a stage. Music is playing. We see the top part of Strong Bad's head watching each contestant. The first contestant is Marzipan, who spins her ponytail around while moving her head left and right. Cut to Coach Z, who taps his right foot while waving his arms. Cut to Strong Sad simply twitching his fingers. Cut to Bubs shaking his arms while jumping up and down. Cut to Strong Mad, who simply stands in place and yells.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I'M STRONG MAD! I'M STRONG MAD!

''{Cut to Homsar, who shuffles his feet all along the stage. The camera then cuts to and zooms in on Homestar, who is lit by a spotlight. The music changes to the ending of a slow, dramatic song.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' And then I put it on my faaaaace...

''{Cut to Strong Bad at his computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Uh, this dance contest is neither contesting nor dancing very well. Looks like I'm gonna be checking e-mails and kicking Cheats 'til the day I die. ''{stops typing}'' Whoa, that'd make an awesome tattoo! Or an even better epitaph!

''{Cut to the field at night. A blank tombstone is on the foreground, and as we hear Strong Bad's voice, his words are carved on the slab.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Here lies Strong Bad

''{underneath, in slightly smaller letters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' "Checking e-mails and kicking Cheats in the hereafter"

''{underneath}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Buried with his hundred girlfriends

''{underneath}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And like, a jillion dollars

''{underneath, in even smaller letters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Please don't dig up the grave.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on the word "Cheats" to see another exchange between Strong Bad and The Cheat:

:''{Cut to The Cheat near his light switch, still wearing his uniform.}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen, into speakerphone}'' A-ttention The Cheat!

:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' Have you found that motorcycle yet? ''{slight pause}'' Maybe check in our...stock room.

:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' And Dana needs more quarters on register three.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Hummus|Hummus]] is a paste of pureed chickpeas usually mixed with sesame oil or sesame paste and eaten as a dip or sandwich spread.

=== Trivia ===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#alone in the dark|alone in the dark]]".

===Remarks===
[[Image:delorted.png|thumb|DELORTED!]]
*Strong Bad uses a [[disconnected telephone]].


*Strong Bad doesn't interview Strong Mad or Homsar, yet they still take part in the dance contest; he also doesn't interview The Cheat.
*The text on the Compy during the interview with Coach Z is the same text that he finished writing before the first interview with Homestar, which may mean that he deleted the e-mail that he was replying to.
*The visible "DELET" part of the [[DELETED]] text is the same size as the "DELOR" part of Coach Z's "DELORTED". At that size, part of the final D and the exclamation point (which are included in the Flash file) wouldn't fit on the screen.
*When Strong Bad asks Coach Z for his best "DELETED!", the computer screen says the same thing as the beginning of the email: "You've got a good point there, Jeffy. I suppose I can't..."

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat turns to the left screen and exits, the nametag on the right side of his vest moves to the left side and is reversed.
*The sign above Marzipan normally reads "Thank You". In this email, it appears to be blank due to a positioning error in the Flash file.
*Since the font called Engravers is used, the first quotation mark on Strong Bad's gravestone is backwards.
*At the end of the email the moon is facing the back of the gravestone, but the shadow is in front of the moon and the other side is bright.

===Inside References===
*Homestar's repeated use of "crap[[Names Ending in -face|face]]" is related to the way he answered his first SB Email in [[50 emails]].
*Bubs's moves in the dance contest come from the game [[Dancin' Bubs]].
*Strong Bad first [[Kicking The Cheat|kicked The Cheat]] in [[little animal]].

===Real-World References===
*The Cheat is wearing a blue uniform, typical of [[Wikipedia:Wal-Mart|Wal-Mart]] employees, but Strong Bad uses a red phone, typical of [[Wikipedia:Target Corporation|Target]] stores.
*The name "Butkus" refers to [[Wikipedia:Chicago Bears|Chicago Bears]] Hall-Of-Fame linebacker [[Wikipedia:Dick Butkus|Dick Butkus]].
*A [[wikipedia:Grill (jewelry)|Grill]] most likely refers to the dental object people (most prominently rappers) wear on their teeth, but can also mean the mouth/teeth themselves.
*Coach Z's dance is similar to a popular [[Wikipedia:Hardcore punk|hardcore]] dance referred to as "Shootin' the arrow".

===Fast Forward===
*Marzipan's first scroll button song was later used on the [[Scroll Button Songs|Strong Bad Email Menu]], despite him saying that it was the worst song he ever heard.
*Strong Bad would later decide to not die at all in [[your funeral]].
*Marzipan's dance moves would be seen again in [[nightlife]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creator's commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' What's he's saying right now is from an old audio recording that I made.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, Matt, before we had a video camera, he and his friend, you know, would just make movies and...

'''MATT:''' Radio plays!

'''MIKE:''' On, aha, on audio cassette! He had a bad tape recorder.

'''MATT:''' And our friend TJ said that, and he could, he was like four or something and couldn't talk very well, or at least couldn't re-memorize lines at the time 'cuz he was so young, and it was called "The Hostess Cake": "Our next show is a family show. It is... The Hostess Cake"... Mike, how did he do that with his voice?! That phone's clearly not plugged in!

'''MIKE:''' It's like Coach Z's phone from another cartoon. I dunno. I dunno, Matt. I just make the cartoons.

'''MATT:''' That's clearly a Wal-Mart vest that The Cheat is wearing there, I think, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Also, there's "Alone in the Dark" back there. Is that... this is, okay, this is before that horrible "Alone in the Dark" movie that just came out.

'''MATT:''' Oh, yeah, did that already come out?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah! It was just in the theater for, like, two days.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Bad idea.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' So, what are we— Which one is this? Replacements?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, he's trying to find an heir to the throne!

'''MATT:''' Oooooh.

''{pause until Strong Bad holds up the "Desterhoft" card}''

'''MIKE:''' Hey, that's the name of the guy that sent the email!

'''MATT:''' That's a funny name.

'''MIKE:''' ''{imitates the "Deleted" buzzer, then again as Strong Bad DELETEs the email}''

'''MATT:''' ''{of "DELORTED"}'' Oof. That brown screen is gross. I like it. Now this is our friend [[Craig Zobel]], who... you all know. His favorite thing ever on our website is right here where Bubs attacks Strong Bad.

'''MIKE:''' That's just me being ba— being a lazy animator. It wasn't supposed to be funny.

'''MATT:''' ''{partially over the last line}'' No, that was you being a genius.

'''MIKE:''' It wasn't supposed to be funny.

'''MATT:''' It's hilarious.

'''MIKE:''' Didn't you record Strong Bad singing one of these scroll buttons songs for the scroll button menu?

'''MATT:''' Mm-hmm. I did.

'''MIKE:''' We oughta use that.

'''MATT:''' Never have. Maybe we should. It's been the same one for a while now.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{of the box with Strong Sad's image}'' That Strong Sad drawing is pretty great. The Cheat clearly drew that for him. ''{after Strong Bad's "Those are not feet.}'' What are they called, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Soolnds?

'''MATT:''' Soolnd.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''MIKE:''' So we got a dance party coming up where Coach Z is doing our friend Claire's dance.

'''MATT:''' Mm-hmm. I remember... that's a good dance.

'''MIKE:''' There it is.

'''MATT:''' The Claire dance. I don't know if Claire knows that we have Coach Z doing her dance.

'''MIKE:''' Does she know we have a name for her dance?

'''MATT:''' I don't know if she knows that either. I hope she doesn't get mad.

'''MIKE:''' I did all this. That's why the dances are pretty lame.

'''MATT:''' Homestar is singing in a dance contest, Mike. He doesn't, he obviously doesn't know what's going on.

'''MIKE:''' Even if it was a singing contest, it was a pretty bad song.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' I dunno what he's talking about, but I dunno what he just put on his face.

''{they laugh}''

'''MATT:''' It's a great song, I think. It's very interesting. It makes you wonder. What did— and what happened that spawned that?

'''MIKE:''' I don't wanna know.

''{pause until The Paper}''

'''MIKE:''' That's it.

'''MATT:''' Preeow.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]] is a manufacturer of various snack cakes and pastries, most famously the [[Wikipedia:Twinkie|Twinkie]].
*The critically panned 2005 film ''[[IMDB:tt0369226|Alone in the Dark]]'', a box-office failure, was based on the video game of the same name, which was in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] in this email.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|105|164}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:replacement

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:26:59 GMT

StarLion: /* Remarks/Cheats */ I swear i'll learn to sign my stuff.

== Marzipan's first scroll buttons song ==

I think marzipan says: 'And thats how I like to scroll, with scroll buttons'.

:'And thats why I like to scroll, with scroll buttons' DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!!!!!!!

::Yes it does. She's saying that that's why she likes to scroll with scroll buttons rather than by any other means. Anyway, doesn't the new sbemailrap prove that?

== Marzipan's second scroll buttons song ==

In the transcript it's written 'Scroll buttons are good, they move you up and down' while I'm sure what she says is 'Scroll buttons are good, they move you like they should...' after '''''triple'''''-checking. I didn't want to go ahead and change it so I put this up. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 22:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I just checked. The transcript is correct.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:27, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Amazingly, I was going to make a note saying that I disagreed with Tom, but then I listened to the song, and he's right. And to think for a whole year I thought Marizipan sang, "they move you like they should." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Darn, you're right. Well, whatever, I can admit defeat. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 23:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== Closed STUFF ==

===Strong Mad sings (declined)===
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
*'''Severe delcine!''' I mean, decline. Severe. Severe decline warning. I mean, [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!!''' Oh my god! Strong Mad said "I'M STRONG MAD" in the same tone of voice he said "GARBLEDINA" in the Facts! It has to be a reference!
*'''Decline''' Strong Mad's lines rarely vary.
*'''INFINATELY SEVERE DECLINE-erson''' It sound alot more like a refrence to his own name! Why is it wierd for Strong Mad to introduce himself???? IT ISNT! --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:55, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*-erson, even though I know it's you, SIGN THE VOTE. And that goes for everyone else. In fact, I move that we start deleting unsigned votes. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Whoops, did I forget to sign? I keep doing that. Ok, its signed now. Sry.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Duh. '''Cedline. Wait...''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Dacheated almost beyond all recognition or how I learned to stop worrying and to Decline the bad fun facts-erson.''' This is not a fun fact exactly. Its a "It could be," anyway. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:39, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**You -erson theif!!!!! Oh well, at least its gaining popularity.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I can't imagine why, as it was only mildly funny the FIRST time... but hackneyed and annoying from then on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' In A Jumping Jack Contest, he says "I ''am'' Strong Bad." In this one he just says "''I'm'' Strong Mad. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Uh...Crapstuff? ===
{{stufffact|Every statement made by Homestar in this email ends with the word "face."}}
{{stuffverdict|03:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)|01:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|15|2|replacement}}

== Butkus "reference" ==

I don't think that the real-world reference to Dick Butkus stated in the Wiki is correct. There are several people with the last name Butkus, and I know of at least one other than Dick who is "famous" -- John Butkus of Bungie. I don't think this reference was meant to refer to Dick, but rather as a silly last name that would be easy to poke fun at.

== Ellipsis ==

If you use an ellipsis and follow with a capitalized sentence or sentence fragment, the preceding requires terminal punctuation. Therefore, the ellipsis requires a total of 4 periods - 3 for the ellipsis, 1 for the terminal punctuation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
:It's one sentence. The is no noticeable pause in the toon for the phrase "Um... Crapface." "Crapface" is capitalized, I presume, because it's being treated as a name. Therefore, there doesn't need to be but one period in that sentence, at the end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
::Well, if that's the consensus.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

== Audio Glitch ==

I can hear the first 1/3 of a second or so of the easter egg at the end of the e-mail, even if i don't click "Cheats". There's about 5 seconds of silence followed by a loud distorted "UT" sound. Can anybody else verify this? - [[User:Poobslag|Poobslag]]
:Hi, and welcome. That sort of thing happens often. As I recall, that's notable as a glitch. Good ears. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

== "Delorted" goof ==

Okay, I've tried to elaborate on it. I don't have a Flash decompiler, so I'm asking someone out there to try that out and see what's actually wrong (or if this can be confirmed). --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
:I used a decompiler and blended several images to show how it would look if Strong Bad's head weren't in the way. Note, in [[:Image:delorted.png|the image]], the word isn't actually on top of the Compy's screen; that's just for illustrative purposes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

This is obviously not a goof. We do not see any symbols displayed outside the screen, and there's nothing wrong with asking a computer to display the first part of a word that is too long for the screen. I'm moving this to Remarks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== Sarcasm used with bad comment... ==

Strong Bad used a sarcastic tone for his "worst song" comment to Marzipan. That's kind of double-negative, isn't it? "Does that mean he actually liked it though?" is what I'm saying. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 14:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Minus the fact that he ended up using it. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 14:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== Kick Em In The Grill! ==

I think when Bubs says "Kick him in the grill!" it's a loose reference to "Kick Em In The Grill" by 3rd Bass.
But that could be TTATOT.
--MooT BooXLe 17:02 (GMT) 26 June 2007

== Remarks/Cheats ==
The wording of this remark is a bit weird. Firstly, SB uses "Cheats" twice - in the response to the email, and in his epitaph. However, the way it's stated (not only missing the integral article, but pluralized too) brings up the question of whether SB is referring to "The Cheat", his pet, or "Cheat", the species. We know there's other "Cheat"s out there: Cheat Commandos, as well as an alluded-to-but-never-seen sister. Note that CC's don't have an integral article, implying that the species name is just "Cheat", rather than "The Cheat" (as stated in [[flashback]]). If we assume then that SB is referring to the species, and not "The Cheat", then this remark is invalid, as Strong Bad is saying that he kicks various Cheats throughout his life. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:replacement

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:25:13 GMT

StarLion: /* Remarks/Cheats */ - removed my own oxymoron

Talk:replacement

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:24:09 GMT

StarLion: /*Remarks/Cheats*/

== Marzipan's first scroll buttons song ==

I think marzipan says: 'And thats how I like to scroll, with scroll buttons'.

:'And thats why I like to scroll, with scroll buttons' DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!!!!!!!

::Yes it does. She's saying that that's why she likes to scroll with scroll buttons rather than by any other means. Anyway, doesn't the new sbemailrap prove that?

== Marzipan's second scroll buttons song ==

In the transcript it's written 'Scroll buttons are good, they move you up and down' while I'm sure what she says is 'Scroll buttons are good, they move you like they should...' after '''''triple'''''-checking. I didn't want to go ahead and change it so I put this up. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 22:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I just checked. The transcript is correct.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:27, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Amazingly, I was going to make a note saying that I disagreed with Tom, but then I listened to the song, and he's right. And to think for a whole year I thought Marizipan sang, "they move you like they should." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Darn, you're right. Well, whatever, I can admit defeat. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 23:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== Closed STUFF ==

===Strong Mad sings (declined)===
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
*'''Severe delcine!''' I mean, decline. Severe. Severe decline warning. I mean, [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!!''' Oh my god! Strong Mad said "I'M STRONG MAD" in the same tone of voice he said "GARBLEDINA" in the Facts! It has to be a reference!
*'''Decline''' Strong Mad's lines rarely vary.
*'''INFINATELY SEVERE DECLINE-erson''' It sound alot more like a refrence to his own name! Why is it wierd for Strong Mad to introduce himself???? IT ISNT! --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:55, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*-erson, even though I know it's you, SIGN THE VOTE. And that goes for everyone else. In fact, I move that we start deleting unsigned votes. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Whoops, did I forget to sign? I keep doing that. Ok, its signed now. Sry.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Duh. '''Cedline. Wait...''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Dacheated almost beyond all recognition or how I learned to stop worrying and to Decline the bad fun facts-erson.''' This is not a fun fact exactly. Its a "It could be," anyway. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:39, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**You -erson theif!!!!! Oh well, at least its gaining popularity.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I can't imagine why, as it was only mildly funny the FIRST time... but hackneyed and annoying from then on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' In A Jumping Jack Contest, he says "I ''am'' Strong Bad." In this one he just says "''I'm'' Strong Mad. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Uh...Crapstuff? ===
{{stufffact|Every statement made by Homestar in this email ends with the word "face."}}
{{stuffverdict|03:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)|01:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|15|2|replacement}}

== Butkus "reference" ==

I don't think that the real-world reference to Dick Butkus stated in the Wiki is correct. There are several people with the last name Butkus, and I know of at least one other than Dick who is "famous" -- John Butkus of Bungie. I don't think this reference was meant to refer to Dick, but rather as a silly last name that would be easy to poke fun at.

== Ellipsis ==

If you use an ellipsis and follow with a capitalized sentence or sentence fragment, the preceding requires terminal punctuation. Therefore, the ellipsis requires a total of 4 periods - 3 for the ellipsis, 1 for the terminal punctuation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
:It's one sentence. The is no noticeable pause in the toon for the phrase "Um... Crapface." "Crapface" is capitalized, I presume, because it's being treated as a name. Therefore, there doesn't need to be but one period in that sentence, at the end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
::Well, if that's the consensus.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

== Audio Glitch ==

I can hear the first 1/3 of a second or so of the easter egg at the end of the e-mail, even if i don't click "Cheats". There's about 5 seconds of silence followed by a loud distorted "UT" sound. Can anybody else verify this? - [[User:Poobslag|Poobslag]]
:Hi, and welcome. That sort of thing happens often. As I recall, that's notable as a glitch. Good ears. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

== "Delorted" goof ==

Okay, I've tried to elaborate on it. I don't have a Flash decompiler, so I'm asking someone out there to try that out and see what's actually wrong (or if this can be confirmed). --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
:I used a decompiler and blended several images to show how it would look if Strong Bad's head weren't in the way. Note, in [[:Image:delorted.png|the image]], the word isn't actually on top of the Compy's screen; that's just for illustrative purposes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

This is obviously not a goof. We do not see any symbols displayed outside the screen, and there's nothing wrong with asking a computer to display the first part of a word that is too long for the screen. I'm moving this to Remarks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== Sarcasm used with bad comment... ==

Strong Bad used a sarcastic tone for his "worst song" comment to Marzipan. That's kind of double-negative, isn't it? "Does that mean he actually liked it though?" is what I'm saying. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 14:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Minus the fact that he ended up using it. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 14:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== Kick Em In The Grill! ==

I think when Bubs says "Kick him in the grill!" it's a loose reference to "Kick Em In The Grill" by 3rd Bass.
But that could be TTATOT.
--MooT BooXLe 17:02 (GMT) 26 June 2007

== Remarks/Cheats ==
The wording of this remark is a bit weird. Firstly, SB uses "Cheats" twice - in the response to the email, and in his epitaph. However, the way it's stated (not only missing the integral article, but pluralized too) brings up the question of whether SB is referring to "The Cheat", his pet, or "Cheat", the species. We know there's other "Cheat"s out there: Cheat Commandos, as well as an alluded-to-but-never-mentioned sister. Note that CC's don't have an integral article, implying that the species name is just "Cheat", rather than "The Cheat" (as stated in [[flashback]]). If we assume then that SB is referring to the species, and not "The Cheat", then this remark is invalid, as Strong Bad is saying that he kicks various Cheats throughout his life.

website

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:17:56 GMT

StarLion: /* Remarks */ I think this was originally english. Maybe.

{{aboutemail}}{{for|Homestar Runner website|homestarrunner.com}}

{{sbenav|51}}

[[Image:sbemail51.png|thumb|"You can make a webpage of your cat."]]

Strong Bad gives an emailer advice on building a website, and shows off his own.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, November 18, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:53

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two}}

== Transcript ==

''' STRONG BAD''': Oh-you-thought-there-was-no-more-emails-but-guess-what-there's-an-EMAIL!

''{reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad. 
 
I want to start a new website but I 
don't have any ideas of what to do for 
my website. I was wondering if you 
could give me some ideas for my new 
website. This website will be cool and 
I'll e-mail you when I'm done. 
 
Sincerely Yours: 
James</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Website. I mean, James" instead of just "James"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You know, James, I've been around this great, big internet of ours a few times, so I know what I'm talking about, and I can safely say, that whatever idea you have is completely unimportant as long as you adhere to these fundamentals: ''{clears screen}'' First of all, you want to start out with a long flash intro. ''{stops typing}'' Like this one The Cheat made for me.

''{"The Cheat presents" on a black background appears on the screen, followed by two green, bean-shaped eyes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Check it out, those are supposed to be my eyes, I think.

''{The eyes fade and the letters "SB" appear. "Strong" and "Bad" are inside each letter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That stands for my name.

'' {The "S" and "B" turn into "The Web" in cursive} ''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "The Web".

''{"The Web" turns into "Welcomes 'u' '2'", the letters made of only horizontal and vertical lines. The words "strong bad's cybersite" appear in red below "Welcomes 'u' '2'". A rainbow circle about 3/4 the size of the "2" comes and rolls in, stopping at the quotation mark before the "2"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That little rainbow thing's kinda cool.

''{The word "cybersite" turns into rainbow colors. The words exit and a blackhole-like thing appears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, go through the tunnel, oh look out!

''{As he says "Oh, look out!", a hand appears to punch you, and after it does, the word "OUCH!" appears above it. The words "Get on in!" appear in a long button.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you got punched! Aw, man, right in the face. ''{typing}'' Okay, next on the checklist: ''lots'' of animated GIFs! ''{pronounces it /gifs/; stops typing}'' or... GIFs... ''{pronounces it /jifs/}'' or however you say it. I don't know. I heard a couple of nerds arguing about it one time. ''{clears screen}'' But you want as many of those as possible.

''{An animated GIF appears that cycles between a flame, the word "Fire!" and another flame.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Especially the ''{Another GIF appears, featuring a mouse that looks side to side before revealing a letter labeled "INTERNET?" in its mouth.}'' rotate-y kind. ''{Two rotating GIFs appear, one of a guitar, the other of a diamond that flashes, showing the words "hi rez" which then disappear.}'' Those are awesome, man. Nobody gets tired of looking at those. ''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, then you can pretty much just pick whatever for your subject. It doesn't really matter as long as you got the rest of that stuff on there. ''{stops typing}'' I mean, ''{resumes typing}'' James, the Internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. You need to take advantage of that. ''{stops typing}'' I mean, you can make a webpage of your cat...

''{A picture of a cat lying on a football with [[Wikipedia:Red-eye effect|red eye]] thinking "It's 4th and 10. Now WHERE'S MY SUPPER?!?" appears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...or your The Cheat.

''{A picture of [[The Cheat]] sleeping on a couch on his back on a couch thinking "It's 4th and 10. I hate cats."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And, ''{typing}'' Who knows? Maybe tomorrow you'll be really big in Pakistan. Or at least, with some guy named Stan. ''{Stops typing}'' Anyways, I gotta go work on my webpage.

''{Strong Bad leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "strong bad's web page" to go to the Flash intro. Then click on "get on in!" to go to [[Strong Bad's Website]].
**Click on the F10 button at the bottom of the Strong Bad's website to read [[Strong Sad's Lament]], Strong Sad's LiveJournal-esque weblog.
**At the bottom of Strong Bad's website, click on the envelope in the mouse GIF. You get to [[Email Processing Room|the room where the emails are received]].
**Also at the bottom of Strong Bad's website, click on the Email GIF to send an email to Strong bad.
**Clicking on the Enter GIF reloads the website, adding an extra STRONG BAD at the top each time.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The reason Strong Bad says, "Oh-you-thought-there-was-no-more-emails-but-guess-what-there's-an-EMAIL!" might be because fans thought the emails would stop because the [[50 emails|previous email]] ended with the [[Compy 386]] in a "flagrant system error."

===Trivia===
*The cat featured in the email is [[Mabel]], owned by [[Matt Chapman]] and his wife [[Jackie Chapman|Jackie]]. The cat appears to be sporting [http://www.softclaws.com/ Soft Claws], which are an alternative to [[Wikipedia:Onychectomy|declawing]].

===Remarks===
*The "get on in" Flash link during the email itself is clickable, but doesn't do anything.
*At the end of the email Strong Bad says he has to go work on his website, but then he leaves his computer.
*The music on the intro sounds very close to his description of Strong Bad playing rhythm guitar on the email "[[guitar]]".
*The "long haired freaky cheat" picture on Strong Bad's page never loads.
*The entire email is actually a tongue-in-cheek criticism and mockery of amateur websites that use long flash intros, are uninteresting, and have many animated GIFs (which is frowned upon because many find them annoying, as they distract their attention from the page and are often of poor quality). Other similar criticisms can be found on many humor sites, with the same format (advice on how to make a webpage, including all things that most people find annoying rather than actual helpful hints, though disguised as such).
*The counter is a .gif so it doesn't update.

===Fast Forward===
*According to "[[flashback]]," this is about where Strong Bad lost count of the emails.
*In email 152, "[[isp]]," Strong Bad refers to the breakdancing rodent GIF as a gif/jif.
*The photograph of Matt and Jackie's pet cat Mabel is later used in an epitaph to the then-deceased cat in [[hygiene]].

== DVD Version ==
*You cannot browse Strong Bad's website on the DVD. However, the intro to his website is still accessible (via a hidden Strong Bad icon in the lower right corner of the Compy 386 screen).
**Note that the DVD version of the intro is out of sync—Strong Bad begins talking long before the animation ends.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail51.html|watch "website"]]
*[[HR:sbemail51.swf|view the Flash file for "website"]]
*[[HR:cheatintro.swf|watch the Flash intro]]
*[[HR:sbsite/|Strong Bad's website, skipping the intro]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]

User talk:Has Matt?

StarLion — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:32:29 GMT

StarLion: Picture Caption

<center><big>'''''For an archive of past discussions, please go [[User talk:Has Matt?/archive2|here]].'''''</big></center>

<center><big>'''''For an archive of even more past discussions, please go [[User talk:Has Matt?/archive1|there]].'''''</big></center>

==Sysop==
*I've noticed your bountiful contributions. Why in the world aren't you a sysop? C'mon, juys, only a sysop in the right mind would make this guy one! You should be made a sysop!! {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

:As you may know, we don't take suggestions. Especially not ones as horribly blatant as this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
::I know it, but the guy has made a good impact on this wiki. Why don't you guys think about it? :-) {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
:::While I have to thank you for your nice compliments, I seriously don't think I'm ready to become a sysop right now. Sysops are the guys that are always on HRWiki talk pages coming up with new ideas, discussing and later carrying out new projects. They're the guys that have to be able to talk calmly and rationally with vandals and people that don't always agree with their policies. They know the ins and outs of this Wiki, and they work hard at keeping the Wiki clean and functioning. While I may have created all those pages and made all those edits, I really feel that I'm just not experienced enough to be a sysop, and I truly don't know if I'll ever be, especially now that I don't have as much time to Wiki as I used to. I'm content with just working on the sidelines and doing my part to make this Wiki as good as it can be. Being a sysop would be majorly cool, but it's probably too much responsibility for a kid like me.

:::{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC) (P.S. You're a prooty awesome user yourself, Theyellowdart! I'll be keeping my eye on you...)
::::You are a "kid"? How old are you? Yeah, you are right. Sysop...ing is a dirty job. Hey, let's get Mike Rowe to spend a day being a sysop for [[Wikipedia:Dirty Jobs|Dirty Jobs]]!! Ha ha. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}. Hey thanks for the encouragement, too. EDIT: I just added you to my Cool People list. See you around.
:::::I'm 13, to be exact. There was a discussion about in one of those two archives, I think. Apparently, you're not the only one to wonder about my age. Oh, and thanks for putting me on your list! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::I know this is random, but I'm turning 13 on May 15. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 22:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

== This Personal Image Will Self Destruct... ==

Hey, Has Matt?. Seeing as we're both online at the same time, I might as well ask you something: Can I delete your abandoned personal image, [[:Image:Has matt image.PNG]]? Or do you want to keep it for a future occasion? I'm only asking your permission so I can help clear up the wiki a little bit. Cheerio, {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, go ahead and delete it. That was from a long time ago. Thanks for asking me before you deleted it, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
::You're welcome. And now if you'd please turn in your hymnals, and join me in singing number 119, a-deleted... {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Yo ==

Hi! {{User:The thing/sig}} 14:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Uh... hi! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::I havn't been here in a while! {{User:The thing/sig}} 14:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I kinda noticed that. Have you been on the Fanstuff Wiki? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::::No. I was just really busy. {{User:The thing/sig}} 14:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Not deleting images ==

Please stop tagging those images. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:Why? There's no need to keep any of them. Phlip removed the images from [[Fan Stuff]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fan_Stuff&diff=429182&oldid=421872 explained why]. If we can't use all the images of the [[Original Book]], [[Strumstar Hammer]] or [[Sketchbook (museum)]] because, as you said, reproducing the images "is even more of a copyright violation than we normally do", why must we keep these images? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::I had a problem with their being collected all on one page. But there's no reason at this time to delete them from the server. Also, if Phlip had intended for them to be removed completely, he could have done so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:::But I thought if we really wanted to sort this copyright business properly, we needed to delete all the images. That's what we did with the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Original_Book&oldid=193498 Original Book] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strumstar_Hammer&oldid=409085 Strumstar Hammer]. From what you're saying, there was no reason for those images to be deleted. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure I would have said that ''then'', but I'd say it now. Things have changed in the year and a half since those images were deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::So basically, from now on, we only delete images if they're...? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::...an exact or lesser-quality duplicate of an image we already have. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, then. So even if they're unused and will problably never be used again, what the hey, we might as well keep them because we don't have a server issue. I see. Thank you for clearing this up for me. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Seriously, it hurts ==

I'm sorry, your user page is freakin' hilarious. It literally hurts to laugh. I was also literllay laughing out loud and literally hitting my knee. (By the way, this is real Bluebry talking. Not 2006 Bluebry, Newb Bluebry, William with Wheels, or Link ([[HRFWiki:User:Bluebry_muffin|Fanstuff]], yo).) {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
:DONT LAFF AT ME YOU MEAAN!!!!... :( imtaking u off cool people list!!!!!! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

no im not plz i didnt meen to b mean plz ad me bak im sry {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

il add u bak if u <big><big>VOTE 4 SANJAYA</big></big> {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

no shes stupid i vote 4 some1 else {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)shut up i don wach amercan idol i wach 24 & lost cuz every1 else does {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

HOW DARE U CALL SANJAYA SHE?!1!? SANJAYA'S RATH WILL B UP ON U!!!!!!!!!! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

lost is stupid cause i dont undertand teh plot 24 is ok tho...

heros pwns everything cept SANJAYA cause SANJAYA can't be pwned

oh, and i still h8 u. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

ur meen im cring how do it feeel {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

it feeeeel GOOOOD! an OTHER VICTORY 4 SANJAYA! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

shut up il get dot com 2 blok u n u cant go 2 th sit evah how dat feel {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dont get dot com he blocks poeple!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! IIL B NICE ISWEAR !!!!! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

put me on yur cool peep list agan n i won tel im n il put u on my col peepl list k?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 
{{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

FINE!!!!! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

kewl ur on my cool peepl list now n id say sin my guestbok but u cant cuz wer not allwed {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

WAT?!?1/! who said were not alowed? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

da stuuuupid mods dey said no mor gestbooks so we cant hav guestbks no mor {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

DAT SUX0RZ! i hate the stupid mods for not alowing gestbooks! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

lets lik b meen to ppl n stuf til we get gestbooks in protest lts get gustbooks n the mods can do nuthin roflolmmorpglotrloz {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

good idea! your so smart bluebry! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

What's going on around here? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

IS TEH STUUUPID MODS! GIVE US GESTBOOKS OR IL PROTEST AT SKOL N THE NEWS WIL B THER! {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

YAH! WAT HE SAID! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

YA DO U lik my imag

[[Image:Blueberry.PNG|500px]]

LAWL {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
: You guys are annoying [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]]. Please stop OR IL GET DOTCOM TO BLOK U AND TEHN U CANT DO NOHTINGS LOL {{User:Jay/sig}} 03:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

NO PLZ DONT WEL B GUD DOT COM BLOKS PPL NOT US WER NOT SPAMBOTS PLZ DON {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
You, Jay, are a lost cause. I don't know why we rose you from the depths of hell for this. I wash my hands of you. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

ZOMG LAPER SAD A CUS WORD BLOCK HM! {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

OMG SOME1 VANDALISES MY PAGE OMG!!!!! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}}

DOT COM SHOUD BLCK HIM {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

hai im onlin now r u??????? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 12:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

yah i am now! u changeed your image lol. it looks COOOOOOOOL

sorry, but we didn't <big>'''VOTE 4 SANJAYA'''</big> hard enough...

== A The Homsar ==

Regarding {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Has_Matt%3F&curid=15096&diff=439658&oldid=439565&rcid=391691 this}} edit, is the new page [[User:Has Matt?/Homsar quotes|linked]] from anywhere in your user space? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I'm slow. I {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Has_Matt%3F&diff=439664&oldid=438993 found}} it. Hadn't thought to look there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

== 100,000 ==

In regard to my score of 100,000 points, I most definitly did... score of..points...100,000...get. Yup, just a few minutes ago really, I just kept on hitting "j" and "l" until I sufficiently wasted a good 20 minutes of my life away! --[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]
:Whoa, only 20 minutes? I would've thought it would take at least 45. By the way, I'm glad to see that you too understand the awesomeness of Homsar. May his supreme randomness never cease! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Randomness?'''''RANDOMNESS?????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????'''''How DARE you call Homsar random!!!! How dare you call ''HIM'' random!!! He is like unto a '''GOD''',a '''''GOD''''', and before long you will all be raised by a cup of coffee!!! (gregorian chant) AaAaAaAaAaAa I was raised by a cup of coffeeeeeeee, I'm the pide of the peacheeeeeees, hey Reggie is that rinocorous arouuuuund, and also with youuuuuuu. But seriously, my fingers almost fell off doin it. --[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]

== Revert Vandalisom ==

How do I revert vandalisom ? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:I don't have a lot of time to explain it to you right now, so just go to [[Help:Vandalism]]. That should give you all the info you need. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, thanks anyways. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

== Ban ==

Who can ban that guy? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:56, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:[[Special:Listusers/sysop|Sysops]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
::Okay ive already told Its Dot Com to ban him
:::I think Dot com and the rest of the sysops aren't online right now. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I'll look at the WHOIS IP database to fine some info...{{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}}
:It belongs to an organization called FDC servers in Chicago, Illinois.{{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 13:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry Has Matt. I thought that thing you put on tyhat vandals page meant disscuss it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:It's OK. Now you know not to do it in the future. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== Help me! ==

How do I tell the difference between Matt and Mike in DVD Commentaries? Do you know? {{User:Homestarmy Commando1/sig}}
:Sorry, it seems as if we keep posting our messages at the same time! I have now answered that question on your talk page. Please tell me if you need any more help. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== Good Edit! ==

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Date_Nite&diff=452857&oldid=452834&rcid=406878 You're absolutely right, it should go somewhere, like at the end, like how people won't notice it the first time but might the second. Very good. Kudos to you! [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't even notice that Strong Bad was there until you removed it from the transcript and I watched the toon again really closely. I thought it was pretty notable, so I figured it needed to be mentioned somewhere on the page. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
::Exactly, which is why it shouldn't be in the transcript. It is however, VERY notable, which is why i think the choice you made was a good one. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

==Thank you!==
Thanks! That was my 1st (and so far only) "welcome" message I've seen on any wiki! I appreciate it! [[User:SonicGuy2|SonicGuy2]]
:No probalo. I'm on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|welcoming committee]], so whenever I see a new user, I... welcome them! I hope you have a good experience contributing to our knowledge base. Don't hesitate to ask me or anyone else here if you have a question about something. Keep on tranglin'! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== Subpage ==

Hey Has Matt?. DNA Evidence [[User:DNA Evidence/About Me|had a subpage here]]. I told him it'd have to be deleted. He's already moved it, but could you delete it? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Not a sysop, diaper user! I mean regular user. Meaning that I'm not a sysop. I see that you already asked [[User:Trey56|Trey]] about deleting it. He'll see the message eventually, and then I'm sure he'll get right on deleting that subpage. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, I was sure you were a sysop, not a diaper user like me. Sorry. Trey just deleted the page by the way. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Contest-type answer ==
It's our favourite i-puter [[:Image:tangerine dreams.PNG|Tangerine Dreams]]!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:Ding ding ding! We have a winner! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:02, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! That's a really great idea for a Homestar-related contest, btw.! And I like how you use the link title. Grood jorb! :-D{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Thank yous. But I have a slightly n00bish question to ask: how do you upload a different image under the same filename? I clicked the link that says "Upload a new version of this file", and I filled in all the necessary information, but for some reason it wouldn't let me upload. Is there something else I have to do? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
::::That's exactly the way to do it. It'll give you a warning that the file already exists, but then you can click on "upload anyway" or something. Keep try, and if it still doesn't work, you might have to as DC or Tom.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::w00t! I did it! I don't know why it wasn't working before... oh well, new image up now. See if you can solve this one... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

----

That image is a closeup of the Z in the [[Limozeen]] logo in front of the blue planet with purple rings from the title screen of [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] as seen in [[best thing]]. You took the screenshot right after [[Larry Palaroncini]] says "But we're in space?!" but before "but they're in space!" appears on the screen. The screen occurs just a few frames before [[:Image:sbemail126.png|this one]]. By the way, this is an awesome idea for a H*R trivia game! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:Wow, pretty thorough answer. And it just happens to be the correct answer! Man, I'm gonna have to think of some harder ones. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== Hey, thanks ==

Hey, thanks for updating my junk! It's so refreshing to watch somebody else do it for a change. :) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:You're always welcome! I just like to help out where I can, so I saw an opportunity and went for it. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

== welcome ==

Thank you for the welcome!--[[User:Twinkler4|♫Twinkler4♫]] [[User talk:Twinkler4|(Talk to me!)]] 15:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== Can't upload ==

Hi, I can't upload images. I tried and it says only bot, autoconfirmed (whatever that is) and sysops can do it. {{User:Zapdos/sig}} 01:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I think "autoconfirmed" means that your account has existed for at least 48 hours. After that time period is up, you should be able to upload images. This is done mainly to protect the wiki from vandals abusing the system by uploading less-than-pleasant images. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Go ==

[[User talk:SantanaHomerunner#User:SantanaHomerunner/sig2|Here]] [[User talk:SantanaHomerunner#User:SantanaHomerunner/sig2|Again]]

== Let us give TANKS! rhyme ==

Hmm . . . well I'm thinking that it is, you think it's fine if I bring it up on the talk page for a consensus? -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]]
:You could, although I don't know how much support you would get. (If he had put more emphasis on "that's" and "bad", maybe I would consider it.) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== [[Page Titles]] ==

Grood idea. How'd ya have that much of the page made in just one edit? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
:I've had the idea for that page for about a year, and I had most of the big toons, shorts, holiday toons, and features already done in Microsoft Word. I was feeling pretty bored today, so I decided to finish it up. It took most of the morning and afternoon, but it was worth it. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

== Yay! ==

You won Person of the Day! {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
:Awesome! Just... awesome! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Has Birthday? ==

Based on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Has_Matt%3F&curid=21108&diff=501776&oldid=500124&rcid=457889 this edit], I assume it must be your birthday. In which case, Happy Birthday, Has Matt?! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:[[3 Times Halloween Funjob|Saints be praised!]] Happy birthday! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::[http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/09/27/dis-is-embarasin-u-no-look-plz/ WEAR A COSTUME!!!!]{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Hooray, my birthday is celebrated across the globe! Thanks, guys. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== subpages ==

i have noticed you have a supbage, and i was wondering how you make subpages. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
:To create a subpage, create a page along the lines of "User:Slipknot6477/subpage", replacing "subpage" with the name of your subpage. [[User:Slipknot6477/sig|Your signature]] is an example of a subpage. Be sure to follow the [[HRWiki:User space#What about user subpages?|subpage guidelines]], though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 18:15, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== Muppet Wiki ==

Re {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Jibblies_2_Costumes&curid=38570&diff=511106&oldid=511105 this edit summary}}: Yes, yes there is, and it's awesome :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Picture Caption ==
While this isn't an article and the necessity of correctness isn't there, I figured I should point it out. Your caption is misquoted. Should be "Today's '''forecast''' is total crap!" -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rap Song

StarLion — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:02:11 GMT

StarLion: /* It's Time to Play "Where's The Cheat"! */

==Coach Z Doesn't Sound Like Himself==
Hey!!! did any of you notice that coach z doesnt sound like himself until the rap{{unsigned|67.170.119.144|0:45:18, 2007-11-13}}

:That because it was a powered by the cheat cartoon.{{unsigned|68.210.53.58|0:53:04, 2007-11-12}}
:The Cheat is doing the voices.{{unsigned|75.72.21.221|0:53:29, 2007-11-12}}
:That would be great... I mean [[Mike]]. He tends to do that for those [[Powered by The Cheat]] thingies. But perhaps it should be mentioned in the transcript when it's a PBTC voice and when it's Coach Z's voice. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::How should it be noted, however? It doesn't look like there is any precedent for dialog in a PBTC voice and then a musical piece with the regular voice. Should {PBTC} noted in front of each line, or note in the description? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd support putting "Powered by the Cheat" or something tothat effect in front of everyone's name until the song starts. The Cheat made an intro on his own, and then made a video to a previously recorded R-A-P S-O-N-G. That's my view of it, at least. [[User:132.161.138.10|132.161.138.10]] 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC) (I used to have an accoun, but I guess if you use it too infrequently it's DELETED? That's happened to me twice.)
:::I'm pretty sure accounts are only deleted under extreme circumstances. I believe this is the case in most wikis, sometimes for legal reasons as well as technical ones. Here at the HRWiki, I don't think [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ the license] prevents them from deleting accounts (though I'm 1: not a lawyer, and 2: haven't really read the license looking for that kind of thing), but the technical issues here remain the same as anywhere else: If you delete an account, what happens to all of their edits? In any case, knowing what your account names were would help in tracking down the problem, and a [[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]] could help you if you brought it to their attention. Well, if it's an account issue, you might just need a [[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|bureaucrat]]. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 03:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==Dr. Dre Reference==
I'm glad to see the Dr. Dre "reference" was deleted. I'm sorry I spent the time adding links. Besides that it's a rap song (and rap songs are all alike, right?) I don't see the similarity. And I'm certainly not comfortable with the links because of the profanity in the Wikipedia articles. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:I'm unfamiliar with the song, so I have no clue if there's any hidden references to it in this toon. I removed it because... well, I think facts that say "there is a reference to whatever" without saying what, exactly, the reference *is*, are essentially useless. They more or less expect you to *know*, which not everyone does. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Incorrect reference for Mix Tape==
I think the fun fact is grabbing the wrong part of the Wikipedia entry for "mix tape." This 'toon is definitely referring to the Hip Hop definition of mix tape, more like a demo than a home-made sample of other people's tracks.

From wikipedia:
"Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album (such as housing "Demo" versions of tracks, or simply un-mastered/un-mixed versions of the tracks), and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often arranged in a specific flowing fashion, much like retail albums are."
--[[User:24.188.228.33|24.188.228.33]] 05:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

...Oh jeez. You're probably right. --[[User:Duck Secks|Duck Secks]] 02:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

==New Math==

<blockquote>
*"My name is [[Tenerence Love]]" actually equals <math>Tenerence Love + 1</math> by order of operations, not <math>Tenerence Love remainder 3</math> as stated.
**Additionally, if the equation is interpreted as <math>(My name is Tenerence Love + My Name is Tenerence Love) / My name is Tenerence Love </math>, it should equal two, by factoring.
</blockquote>

...so, we're debating the mathematical formula behind what're basically nonsensical lyrics? As I said in the edit summary when I removed these, this seems to be talk page material and nothing more. Anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::I was about to say the same thing. They're FUN facts, people. Who honestly cares whether or not it would be remainder three or the square root of piemonade???? I vote DELORTED!!--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 05:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Edit: oh, it already was delorted. Too little too late.
Keep it civil. I actually found this very interesting and worked it out for myself. ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' = –1 if you perform the addition before the division; otherwise it is undefined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not saying it's not *true* or anything... I think it's great talk page material, but trying to analyze a nonsensical "math problem" in a comical rap song seems... a bit odd, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess I hear the maths differently to you guys... I hear it as (abbreviating ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove'' as <math>x</math> for readability): <math>\frac{x+x}x = x\mbox{ r}3</math>, that is: <math>\frac{x+x}x = x + \frac 3 x</math> which solves to <math>x=1 \plusmn \sqrt 2 i\,</math>. Of course, this has problems, as the "remainder" thingy usually only makes sense when you're dealing with integers, not complex numbers... but it's a reasonable extension. Anyways, the order-of-operations reading, <math>x+\frac x x=x\mbox{ r}3</math>, makes even less sense, since the division has to be the last step for the remainder thing to make sense. Also, I'm with YK here... precedent is that pointless mathematical overanalysis, however fun, belongs on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Glad to see I'm not the only one who heard that and thought of a quadratic equation. I'm tempted to claim this is an IR to Virus ("Did the quadratic formula explode?" -SB) but that's... um... unlikely. At best. It could also be a nod to the old Bogus Mathematical Theorems, but I doubt that as well. Anyway, for the record, even though it makes no sense to state the equation with a remainder using the order of operations reading, you can still solve it for ''MyNameIsTenerenceLove''. It's 3. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

To anyone who wants this in the article: Y'all buscuitheads, you remind me of ''[[Wikipedia:A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]'' — "finding" meaning in the meaningless. Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up! (P.S. I <s>hated</s> strongly disliked ''A Beautiful Mind''.) Whew, I get ornery at 1:00 in the morning! I do have to say, "the square root of piemonade" made me laugh. Thanks for that, Nevadie. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just a parody of the fact that he said "plus" in the second line, which can mean adding in the grammatical sense or in the mathematical sense. It's called poetic license. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Awexome. Poetic license and all that. Oh, and dot com, I wasn't being uncivil. Only sarcastic.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"Finding meaning in the meaningless"? Isn't that the whole point of this wiki? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:The equation is impossible, given the "remainder 3" part that you all seem to be ignoring, order of operations, there's no way to have a remainder three in such a case, and order given, there's no remainder at all. This is not a real equation, it's impossible to solve, and we shouldn't even try. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The equation, performed in the stated order, is perfectly solvable if you think of it as a quadratic equation and treat "MyNameIsTeneranceLove" as a variable (say, X). The "remainder 3" would then be "X remainder 3," which is just another way of saying "X plus 3 over X." Phlip explained this quite adequately. If you take the order of operations into account, the equation is even easier to solve. It's first year algebra, and X ends up equaling 3. Sompm's HS math teacher explains this one below, and it's pointed out (sans explanation) above. The fact that it really makes no sense to use a remainder in this kind of equation, and that you wouldn't actually encounter such a problem (either version) in real life, does not make it "impossible to solve." We've solved it. Both versions. Several times. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 04:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think the problem here is people are assuming that the mathematical operations being used are defined in the "normal" way, and that phrases such as "My name is Tenerence Love" can be treated as a variable, or a value in some set of numbers. While I think [[TBC]] were just being silly, if anyone were to seriously attempt to analyze these quasi-mathematical statements it'd probably be wiser to interpret them using some other definition for the operations. 1+1 does not always equal 2. Addition with real numbers is defined differently than it is for matrices, or in an abelian group defined over an elliptic curve. [[Wikipedia:Abstract_algebra]] is a good place to start if you really want to damage your ability to see mathematics the same way ever again. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 00:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::hmm... but there isn't really such a thing as dividing matricies. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Inverse matrices. Division in the set of reals is simply multiplication by the inverse of the divisor <math>(\tfrac{3}{4} = 3 * 4^{-1})</math>. It's a little harder to find the inverse of a matrix than it is in simple algebra, but that's the closest thing to division in matrix math. Not all operations are defined for all sets anyway. That was partially my point. My other point was that mathematical operations have been defined in a number of ways not familiar to most people, and can be freely redefined (especially since people made it all up in the first place). In this case, only [[Tenerence Love]] could really tell us what this was supposed to mean. And in reality, it was most likely just TBC being silly. I don't think either of them has advanced knowledge of math, given that Mike studied Fine Arts, and Matt went to film school. Tenerence Love's probably not a mathematician either, neglecting the fact that he doesn't actually exist beyond H*R. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 09:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not hor remainders workI was value-ing this, and here's what I came up with: 5 plus five (ten) divided by five is three off five. is my name is tenerence love 5? oh, wait, I just figured out. that's not how remainders work [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

I ran it by my highshool math teacher mother, and we came up with this: according to the order of oprations, we divide x by x first, to get one, so it's x+1 = xR3, and because the fraction of the division is the remainder over the denominator so it's x+1=x+3/x. if x is 3, the x+1=x+1.
in short, "my name is tenerence love" is 3. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 02:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Anony ties lowercase i's in: [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 02:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
"*Solving (Tenerence Love + Tenerence Love)/Tenerence Love = Tenerence Love remainder 3 yields Tenerence Love = 1+i√2 or 1-i√2. This is another instance of [[lowercase i's]]."

A slight correction for Dagron:
When you plug 1-i√2 back into the equation, you get 0 = 4i√2. If you write out the equation as you did, only 1+i√2 correctly solves for Tenerence Love. This, of course, ignores that when it is calculated by the ordinary order of operations (as was pointed out by Sompm and the math-teach-mommy), the answer is just 3.

but didn't he say "equals tenayeaaarence love!"?? so it's a whole different integer! x+x/x='''Y'''R3! no problems! [[User:Sompm|Sompm]]

:An instance of Lowercase i's. From the solution to a fake math problem. That may well be the best stretch ever. Even better than the Iron Sheik/Iron Cheek/Buns of Steel connection and the Eggs/Organic Batteries/"Eggs Not A Fruit" connection. I love it. (Ok, ok, forgive the blatant sarcasm, but this is just too funny. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 03:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, we get it; some people don't think math is fun. We don't need those of you in that category to stomp all over our fun. In regards to the different interpretations of the formula, it seems that the most viable one is the one represented VISUALLY in the rap song itself. We don't just have a spoken word, we have a text as well, which should clear up all ambiguity. -TheHat 03:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow, I hadn't even noticed all this was going on when I added that comment again myself. Sorry. [[User:162.84.76.224|162.84.76.224]] 02:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I just gotta say, I was also thinking about the math of this. And to all of y'all who think it's weird or strange, there are those of us who find math interesting. I myself am an engineering student. If if it wasn't people like us, the computer connected to the internet and running on the outlet power that you're using wouldn't be at all possible. -Eaglescout1984 02:38 19 November 2007 (GMT)

== warsh ==

I'm not sure if anyone cares, and I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article anywhere, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in some areas of Eastern Canada, especially [[wikipedia:Prince Edward Island|PEI]], pronouncing the word "wash" as "warsh" is actually part of a regional accent. I used to live in that region, and almost nobody my age ever said it like that, but a lot of us had parents who did. Also common around there is saying "slippy" instead of "slippery", and saying the word "barrel" in such a way that it sort of rhymes with "Carl". - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:Warsh is also a common pronunciation of wash in Kentucky and some areas further south. Unusual that it makes the long leap up to Canada and skips over everything in between. [[User:Maktaka|Maktaka]] 09:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::As interesting as that is, I don't think it has anything to do with Coach Z's pronounciation of the word. He simply pronounces all words like that, and the majority of them do not sound similar to any other accent in any region. (For example, Port = Putt. What?) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 10:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If I recall, Coach Z was originally intended to have a sort of US midlands accent that quickly began to devolve and get weird, until it's really just replacing some sounds with "or" and "ar" sounds. Now it doesn't really resemble any sort of language at all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::My grandma (born and raised in Minnesota) has always said "warsh" .. I'll bet it's a reference to her! Will someone please add this to the article: '''"Wash" being spelled as "warsh" is a reference to [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]'s grandma who has always pronounced it that way."''' By the way, it's not Coach Z's pronunciation we should be talking about here; The Cheat is responsible for the word "warsh" .. not Coach Z. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::My Hoosier relatives have been know to say "worsh" and/or "warsh" on occasion. Say, aren't TBC from Indiana? --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 21:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Wash was also spelled and pronounced as "worsh" in 20X6 vs. 1936. Perhaps it's a referance to that too! Personally, I feel it's a TTAOT. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==Anthropomorphic Egg==
When I saw the egg chasing after Peacy P's limo/waffle house, my first thought was that it was supposed to be one of the villains from Data East's [[Wikipedia:Burgertime|Burgertime]], but a quick check of the box art shows that the egg didn't wear a domino mask as portrayed here. Is this a ''Burgertime'' reference despite the cosmetic difference, or is the significance of the egg relevant to something else? [[User: Nekouken|Nekouken]]
:Dude, it's breakfast, and it's walking. Some things in these cartoons are just silly for the sake of silly, not everything is a reference to something and/or has a hidden meaning. - [[User:24.71.223.142|24.71.223.142]] 05:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I did notice one thing about the '''EGG'''. And that is that the '''EGG''' appears to be holding a gun, and also the '''EGG''' has legs, and an animation (running) that seams almost Identical to that game on H*R where you shoot each other, have the same style leggs as this '''EGG''' and run the same way the '''EGG''' does in this video. I think the game was called "Where's an..." Damn! I forgot the last word of the title... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 15:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==Nate Dogg==

I believe that Tenerence Love is 'sposed to sound like Nate Dogg. And also "It don't stop" is something that alot of rappers (especially Snoop Dogg) says. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 07:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Tenerence Love wearing a donut reminded me of Luther Vandross and his infamous diet, but I don't necessarily think that's a reference, either. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 13:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rap Song Visuals ==

Someone needs to write a separate article for the video's visuals (I don't know if I have time to do it) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Fast Food Freestyle==
This supposed RWR ("Peacey P places an order for food much like in the video "Fast Food Freestyle" on Youtube.") needs some discussing, methinks. Pretty funny video, and similar, but sometimes there's an overlap in ideas that TBC may think are original but that have been done before. Is it a reference? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd have to say TTATOT. It's just another random thing they do. Ordering breakfast in the middle of a rap song.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Peacey P ==

...is the abbreviation PCP, which can mean a lot of things ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP]), but probably Phencyclidine. This would make it another drug reference. --[[User:91.97.14.14|91.97.14.14]] 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:See his character page. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==Coach Z's accessories==
If you may notice, Coach Z's hat and Z change during the toon. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's because The <strike>Chort</strike> Cheat isn't a very good Flash animator. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==I don't even know who's song this is==

Is that part a reference to the reputation of rap songs sampling other songs without permission? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:I took it as him admitting that he works with so many other rappers that he can't even keep track of whose song he's in at the moment.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 01:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::What about the "I thought I made that abundantly clear!"? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:32, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Yes Yes, Yall ==

reference to the Will Smith song? most likely a coincidence, but i immediately thought of the Will Smith song Yes, Yes Yall (i think that's what it's called). whatchyall think? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 20:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

==The end distortion==

When the picture is distorted at the end, the singers sound nauseated. I don't remember this originally. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Sterrance in background of last section? ==

Take a look at the last section of the rap song when Tenerance Love is flying by on a doughnut. What is that pink thing on the right? It vaguely reminds me of [[Sterrance]] from [[animal]] but it's a bit off. Any ideas? --[[User:Spoom|Spoom]] 04:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hated to remove this from the page, but it's actually the running Egg from the breakfast. Y'all biscuitheads! -- → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … ''Y'all biscuitheads!'' 04:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, obviously :^P Don't worry about it, I never actually added this to the page before I put it here, so someone must have been overly ambitious. --[[User:Spoom|Spoom]] 05:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Waffle House ==

Does the explaination of what Waffle House is (Since it's where Peacey orders breakfast, though named differently) seem worth including on the page? Also, can anyone tell what name is scribbled on the top of his order? → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … ''Y'all biscuitheads!'' 04:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

The name looks to be "_est Chef" with the blank being unreadable (to me) but I assume it's "Best Chef". Nothing there, I guess. Interesting though that "Tos" for "Toast" is there, when previously it was "Toz" for "Toes". → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … ''Y'all biscuitheads!'' 04:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Noteworthy "pseudo-goofs?" ==

I'm surprised no one's made mention of a few "pseudo-goofs":

* At the words "come to do his landry," Coach Z briefly appears to have two left forearms.

* After Coach Z asks if he can record on new album, Peacey-P's body clearly disconnects from his head.

* Coach Z's left eye briefly pops out of his head at the words "I thought I made that abundantly clear!"

* When singing, Tenerance Love's moustache and goatee occasionally overlap his microphone.

These are obviously not honest goofs, but they stand out as exceptional even considering The Cheat's usual two-years-old-boy style. Worth adding to "Remarks?" [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]] 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

:They *have* been mentioned, repeatedly. They just keep getting removed, because we don't point out The Cheat's "goofs". The "feauring" thing is an exception because that appears to be an honest typo. It's correct the other two times, and Teh C doesn't have a history of typoes or misspellings. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I thought we normally put PbTC "goofs" under Remarks. I know for a fact we've done it before (in [[animal]], for example). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Granted I just skimmed it, but I didn't see any PbTC "goofs" listed in the Remarks section of [[animal]]. You sure that's the one meant? -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I know there was something in there at one point... About how objects pass overtop the christmas lights, but under the fanglyfish... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I feel that these pseudo-goofs do deserve some merit. I didn't see the first and third pseudo-goofs, and I found them interesting. I feel they should go under the "remarks" section. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 06:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Agreed, they probably should go *somewhere* in the fun facts, but given the sheer number of them, it seems like they'd just clutter the Remarks section... Perhaps a new subsection for PbTC toons? -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::That sounds good. Maybe it could be a subsection of goofs. (Call it PbTC goofs or something). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 06:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::The notion of making a sub-section for this type of content seems quite warranted, especially if such things keep getting added and deleted. My feeling is that if TBC went through the trouble of glitching up PbTC segments, it's worth documenting. "PbTC Goofs" or "PbTC Style" seem good to me. [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]] 16:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Maybe these should go in [[Rap Song Visuals]], if anywhere. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Did anyone notice the extra buttons on the end of the rap on the radio? [[User:SCchilidog]]16:32 Dec 5, 2007

== "I'm the best guest rapper in the music biz" visual ==

I noticed that visual where Peacey P is rapping in front of his golden record, all but his afro is reflected.
:Another psuedo-goof? (See above). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 07:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just because his afro is black and the background of the golden record is black. His reflection is underneath the actual record.
:No, his afro is definitely missing. IMO, this one's worth mentioning cause it's not so noticeable and isn't the typical screwed up transformation/alignment that always go with PBTC stuff, but is a distinct oversight (probably intentional). But it'd probably just get deleted again. [[User:65.2.33.109|65.2.33.109]] 06:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Looks to me like the afro is missing, too. Could be a goof, but my bet is it belongs in the [[Rap Song Visuals]] page. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It looks to me like the background is just too dark to reflect it. Either way, it's a the Cheat Flash animation, so such a "goof" can probably be chalked up to his skill or lack thereof.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 05:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

==Superfluous explanations==

Do we really need to be told what words are portmanteaus? Is this just another example of people needing so badly to put their name on the article that they add obvious information?
:[[portmanteaus]] are a running gag, and should of course be mentioned. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Stow in Crample-O Stow. ==

Is it just me - or is the "STOW" on "Crample-O Stow" another reference to [[Style]]? Think about it. Crample-O contains "Cramp" and "Stow" sounds exactly like a "ghetto" type mutilation of the word "Style". Crample-O Stow is most likely a mangling of "Cramping of Style" or something similar. Someone else can probably pinpoint the actual phrase that's being obscured better than I can. Heck, the Rap Song even contains "You're crampin' my style!". → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … ''Y'all biscuitheads!'' 06:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Actually now I see it on the Style page, though I don't think it's actually "crampin' my style." Oh well. → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … ''Y'all biscuitheads!'' 06:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I definitely thought that too, but wasn't sure if it merited putting in. Well, it's in now! :P [[User:Octan|Octan]] 20:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat's Animation Style ==

Does anyone else think that The Cheat's style of flash animation is becoming more mature with this video? Some of the visuals are really quite well done. Is it worth mentioning?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't really see any difference between this and the older cheat stuff... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::The bulge effect was impressive, but not much else was different from, say, Everybody to the Limit. And the silhouetted dancers aren't that hard to do when working from reference. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:::However, if you notice, in some parts of the video, Coach Z and Peacey P are drawn with more realistic proportions, actually looking like real people, rather than the usual characters in the H*R universe. At least, I think so.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 13:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I wouldn't say that Teh C's style isn't remarkably better than [[Everybody to the Limit]]. It's clear that Teh C's [[The Cheat Theme Song|four]] [[Everybody to the Limit|music]] [[Hip Hop Dance|video]] [[Rap Song|projects]] are much higher quality than his [[Crazy Cartoon|standard]] [[mile|animation]] [[New Boots|projects]].[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 14:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Coach Z and Peacey P are both colored right, and overall the animations seem more consistent. I think you're right, Flashfight. The random [[PbTC]] stuff is supposed to be bad, whereas [[TBC]] wants the music videos to be good, though still in the PBTC style. I know I find this latest video very appealing. I can't get the song or the visuals out of my head, and I don't really mind either. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 19:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

==Ben Cousins's Tattoo==
This RWR was inexplicably removed, so I re-added it but decided to provide a link here on the talk page to make it painfully obvious that this is a reference. First, I found some pictures of the [http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22384115-5005401,00.html actual tattoo], and for improved legibility, here's a link to show some [http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?satitle=Such+is+Life shirts] designed to match his tattoo. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

:Except, isn't that a common style of tattoo, particularly among rappers? I believe "Thug Life" tattoos are in the same place, shape and font. I don't have the cartoon open to compare it to, though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:2Pac|2Pac]]'s [http://www.thugradio.net/thuglifepacsstomache.jpg thug life tattoo] is in the right shape (though the arc is quite a bit shallower), but wrong font, and it uses an image (a bullet) for one of the letters. Granted, people have immitated 2Pac's tat and gotten closer to the font used in this short, but I doubt TBC was going for a "reference to an immitation of the tattoo of somebody famous". Visually, the "RAP SONG" tattoo is a better match to Ben Cousins's tattoo, although it would make more sense for this to be a parody of a rapper tattoo. So maybe it's TTATOT. And hey, I'm anti-tattoo.. so, while I think the wiki should be accurate, it wouldn't break my heart to see this reference go. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I removed it as TTATOT, though I do think it's really a direct reference to Tupac's. TBC have referenced it twice before, in [[Halloween Fairstival]], and in its corresponding creator's commentary. [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 03:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

==Three Times One Minus One==
Does anybody else think that the RWR implying this mess refers "to David Cross and Bob Odenkirk's spoof R&B duo 'Three Times One Minus One'" is TTATOT? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 08:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Decidedly '''not a reference'''. Removed. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Mumbling ==
Are we sure that it's supposed to be Peacey P at the beginning? It struck me as just some kind of PBTC... sound effect? [[User:Dagron|Dagron]] 21:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:At first it struck me as a sound effect too, like random "music" or something following Peacey P around, but Coach Z reacts to it as though he's speaking ("I can understand well that's a yes..."), so I think it's actually supposed to be P mumbling or rapping incoherently. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 04:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Do his landry ==
Do you suppose TBC chose to mispronounce "laundry" ''specifically'' as "landry", since Tom Landry is a famous ''coach'' of the Dallas Cowboys? -- TJDevil02

:I think that's just what "Laundry" would sound like with Coach Z's accent.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 13:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

There may be something to this. In "A Decemberween Pageant," he tells someone they're on again in farve. Pronounced like the last name of packers QB Brett Favre.

==spelling of the word "crisp"==
I really don't think this is a Crips reference. I think if any allusion is being made, it's the frequent error of saying "aks" instead of "ask".
[[User:171.64.126.37|171.64.126.37]]
:I don't think either of those is a reference. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
::I personally think it's a spelling mistake. Period. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Dry Toast ==

The first thing Peacey P orders in the diner is a piece of dry toast. Could this possibly refer to Elwood Blues of the Blues Brothers? His signature food was one piece dry white toast. Just a thought.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 01:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:If that was the only thing he ordered, I might agree with you, but he orders more, so I don't think it's relevant. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

== Out in the "Cold" ==

This is now the third time someone's inserted the word "cold" improperly into a song: the first two were [[coloring]] ("Sippin' on a bottle o' email, cold havin' a picnic lunch with some coworkers") and [[An Important Rap Song]] ("You stroll into the kitchen, and what do you find? A bunch of knives cold staring at you!") Is this a reference to something, maybe a common practice in rap songs or something? Or is it just something TBC have been doing repeatedly for no reason (i.e. Running Gag page fodder?) [[User:Octan|Octan]] 20:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's common practice to use "cold" as an adverb. Not just in rap, either. It's mostly street slang, as far as I know. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 22:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Your Funeral ==

When Coach Z accidentally tapes over Strong Bad's self-eulogy, was that an early recording of what would become this song? Or does his rap songs always sound like that? - Cyndentia who forgot how to link

=="flake"?==
Part of the song says:
COACH Z AND PEACEY P: R-A-P-S-O-N-G, yes,
Yes, y'all, and we don't flake,

COACH Z: Here comes Tenerence Love with an R&B break!

What does "flake" mean in this song? I was surprised that wasn't in the explainations section. [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 21:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

:As I know it (and I could be missing some 'new' meaning...) flaking is basically saying you will do something and then not doing it. For example "We were going to meet Jim at the movies but he totally flaked." could mean Jim either forgot to show up or chose not to, without letting the other parties know, even though he made plans to be there. So in the song I take it to mean "We don't flake" = "We do everything we say we're going to do without fail." :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== P, comma, Peace-ay ==
Though it's difficult to hear, doesn't it seem that Peacey P should have said "P, comma 'eace-ay", rather than having the P in there twice? [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 20:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, his name is Peacey P. Formally, last name first, it would be "P, Peacey". --[[User:DorianGray|Gray, Dorian]] 20:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, i see now. I was reading it as if it was him just saying his first name and breaking it up.

== It's Time to Play "Where's The Cheat"! ==

Is it notable that this would be the website's first PBTC toon not to include any references to The Cheat? (I counted the gold tooth in [[marzipan]] as a reference) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, since it's not accurate. Teh C provided voices for Coach Z and Peacey P in the laundromat scene. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 04:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::The Cheat is famous for his self-insertion cameos in his cartoons, though. Which, I think, is the Bad Guy's point. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, my bad. I had not seen "PBTC" in B^2G's post. I still wouldn't call it notable, but since my argument is moot, I'll Strongly Abstain (RIP Old STUFF) [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 15:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Without having seen it, I cant be sure, but The Cheat doesn't mention himself in the Grumblecakes video, nor Home Page 15, nor These peoples try to fade me. If you want to include partial PBTC stuff (as your reference to marzipan is), then add in [[narrator]] as having no mention of The Cheat. I suppose you could throw [[web comics]] in there, too. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:pom pom

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StarLion: /*Matt's Carpet?*/

== Opinion ==

Wow, there's not even a discussion on this one yet? Well I have some stuff to say: I DID NOT LIKE IT!! And you guys probably don't either (admit it, you don't like seeing Strong Bad get beaten up :P).
- [[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

== Image ==

[[Image:sbemail108-pin.png|thumb|YEEEEOOOOWWW!!!]] I made another picture for my user page, but thought you guys might like it too :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 21:57, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Ahnberg Hand Q? ==

<pre>In the letter to Pom-Pom's parents, TBC did not use the modified Ahnberg Hand Q.</pre>

What exactly is Ahnberg Hand Q? A font? And what is its significance? (Is that what [[The Brothers Chaps]] use for Strong Bad's handwriting?) Please be more specific with things like this. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:52, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

Yes, Ahnberg Hand Q is what TBC use for Strong Bad's handwriting. I wish I had it on my computer! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Click if you dare]]

Question: If Strong Bad's typing gets messed up when he blindfolds himslef, wouldn't that mean that he needs to be looking at the keys to type properly? -[[User: Krem|Krem]]

:I 'gree. Is that a fun fact? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oh good, it is. 05:11, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::I reworded it. Ahnberg Hand is the font. This font uses a crossed q, which TBC normally change to a normal q. They did not this time. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Three-to-one marny ==

Are Strong Bad and Bubs playing three-to-one marny in the easter egg at the end? I'm not quite sure. --sticklyman

Good question. It's possible, because Strong Bad had 3 cards and Bubs had 1. So that's three-to-one. And here's something else to consider: if Bubs had a Kevin instead of a MonkeyDude, would that give him a full house? --[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:28, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Helium or Hydroge==
"Strong Bad assumed that Pom Pom was filled with either hydrogen or helium, although it's probably neither of those, since they are each lighter than air in their natural states. If he were filled with hydrogen or helium, he would float away like a balloon, instead of being able to land on the ground."

Technically, he would not ''necessarily'' float even if filled with Helium or Hydrogen. It would depend on what his outside is made of, and how thick his outside was. For example, if you had a typical one-foot diameter balloon made out of lead instead of rubber, or of the latex was three inches thick, they would not float either, even filled with your standard balloon-level density of helium. Also, his arms and legs must have been solid, due to the fact that he can kick [[Strong Bad]] a fair distance. If they were simply inflated lumps on his body, they probably woudn't be able to do much damage. If his legs and arms were heavy enough, he would be stabilized.

He does float n some toons.

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Bubs...greedy? (Declined)===
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ('''Seventh''') We all KNOW Bubs is greedy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:37, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept'''. We know Bubs IS greedy, but the fact says that he COULD BE greedy, which is a new idea and very much worth keeping.
**** It's a good thing this guy didn't sign his vote. Or we should've counted it. (I won't sign this, this isn't a vote.)
**'''SECOND'D!''' ('''Eighth''') It's not all that hard to figure out. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:15, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Gee, you figured out Bubs was greedy all by yourself huh? No flashcards or anything? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' ('''Tenth'd!''')Well, there's no way this is getting Accepted now. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' Bubs is greedy?! You've ruined my perception of his character! But seriously... the best place to acknowledge Bubs' greed is in his profile. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===hidden frame (Declined)===
For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
* Flash artifacts = no. '''Decline''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:54, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I can tell this one's gonna come off the board quickly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''That'll be 4 DECLINES.''' No idea what you're saying, so also a serious '''Rewrited.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Uhh... no. I don't even know what you're talking about and I'm sure many others would be able to say the same. We're supposed to keep people informed, not confuse the poop out of them. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
==Hidden Object Revealed==
*The submitter of the "hidden frame" fun fact above may have confused many, but he/she is, in fact, right about the unused object. It appears for twenty frames (frame 2085 to 2105) and while it is a flash artifact, it leaves the question of why it was not used. Perhaps it's a goof of some sort (although not a significant one) or maybe something extra for us "flash kiddies". I personally think it is some kind of ribbon or award. Picture of object in question:
http://www.strongfans.com/upload/thepaper/sb108_hidden.png

{{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:03, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:*Check out the picture at the top of the page. That object is clearly the ribbon at the back of Strong Bad's headband, only in black instead of white. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 14:42, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:This is obviously old news, but for those who never figured it out... Watch the [[Theme Song Video]] and look at Pom Pom's belt when he's practicing his karate, and you'll see exactly what this object is (or was). If you watch his bandana as well, you'll notice that it's never shown from the back or side, so the knot is never visible. When Mike borrowed his bandana for Strong Bad's blindfold, he needed to add the knot for side views. So apparently he grabbed part of Pom Pom's belt from the same costume and recolored it. The stray object is the knot in its original colors, probably just left behind out of carelessness. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:39, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

==BMW Lighter Reference?==

This is the only one of the toons containing the BMW Lighter in which it does not burn something. Should that be added to a section of the front page? It seems rather special to me. [[User:Mortacai|Mortacai]]

:I think it's too easily outdated and not really that notable, sorry. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:39, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC) (BTW, here's a better way to sign your name. Use four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)

== Kamikaze ==

I edited the mentions of Strong Bad's blindfold in the Transcript and Real-World References for accuracy. Specifically, I removed claims that it is a "Kamikaze bandana". While kamikaze pilots probably did often wear bandanas, this was a much older Japanese tradition and nothing specific to kamikaze. Actually, a kamikaze's bandana would be more likely to have a slogan written on it, particularly ''banzai'' ("ten-thousand years").

Of course, if someone feels that there's enough false association in people's minds between this bandana and kamikaze (like there could be with The Karate Kid, although the two bandanas side-by-side really don't look that similar), go ahead and revert. Just please make sure you're spelling it correctly, with no capitalization. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Dot Egg ==

I believe "Dot Egg" is actually a well-disuiged inside reference to Coach Z's bizzare accent. (and may deserve mention as such in the remarks section) Coach Z's unique style of speaking would actually cause the word "Egg" to be pronounced "Org" --Tempestryder
: Given that Coach Z disagrees with it, I doubt it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Yes, it's something of a backwards reference, where homestar has "removed" the Coach Z accent from the correct way of speaking the word. (As opposed to ADDING the Coach Z accent to the correct pronunciation) --Tempestryder

== Dot Egg - Dot EDU? ==

Is Homestar trying to say .edu, misreading it and confusing it with .egg?
:I think it's just Homestar's [[TrogdorCon '97|unbelievably loose grasp on the world around him]]. It's technically possible he got ".egg" from ".edu", but it could also have come from ".org". Note that he also suggests it might have been ".muffin", and that doesn't sound like anything real. Homestar's just not being too bright (as usual). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::Also cosider the [[Eggs]] are a reacuring theme in Homestar Runner. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== Yeah, Kirby? I'm... not so sure. ==

You guys, I think we should remove the SSB:M Real-World Reference. I have the game (and might I add that it is [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene|pfargtlin']] AWESOME! and that I can't wait for Brawl, especially since Sonic's in it) and see no resemblance to Kirby's fighting style. But then again, I use Ness most often... {{User:Neox/sig}}
:Me too. And I use Kirby most often. And it is very VERY similar. And Brawl will be the awesome. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:09, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
::I am a kirby man all the way... the floaty, punchy, no-fingered grabby fighting style matches to a tee... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm a Samus and Princess Toadstool (won't call her Peach) person, but anyone who owns the game ought to be able to recognized Kirby's fighting style. It's not just a resemblance. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Less-than-expert typist ==

:''Strong Bad exposes himself as a less-than-expert typist in this email. After "raising the stakes" and donning a blindfold, he cannot type. An expert touch-typist would have no problem typing in this situation.''
This has been here a long time, so I'm not gonna remove it without discussion, but Strong Bad's mistyping while blindfolded is the ''joke''. He's obviously an expert typist, as he can type as fast as he speaks (''I'' certainly can't do so, and I'm an above-average typist). I mean, really: Have you evert tried to type and twtalk at the stiame ti eme? It's really hard to kdoo and keep up a normal pace. I managed to tyhpe this line at about half sppeed, and jsut look at all the mistakes. (I really did speak the last two sentences aloud as I typed them.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:55, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the idea that Strong Bad must be an expert typist given his speed of typing. I'm less inclined to agree with removing the fact as a result of this, though. The fact that he can't type while blindfolded is a notable contradiction of his normally fine typing skills that I think is worth noting. I'd support rewording it not to say that he's a poor typist, but to still note that it's odd that he can't type while blindfolded. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

==Matt's Carpet?==
Though it's just speculation, do we think that Matt was implying that the carpet in Strong Bad's Computer Room is based on his own carpet? Or simply that he created the graphic, perhaps? -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 03:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:dangeresque 3

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:40:37 GMT

StarLion: /*Commentary Fast Forward?*/

== Section Linking ==
I can't figure out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Links.2C_URLs section linking]. For the Fun Facts section of this email, I'm trying to link to the easter eggs section of "stunt double". Here are several ways to do it, but none of them work:

*[[stunt double#Easter Eggs]]
*[[stunt double#easter eggs]]
*[[stunt_double#Easter_Eggs]]
*[[stunt_double#easter_eggs]]

What am I doing wrong? -- [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 15:06, 27 Jul 2004 (MST)

:[[stunt double]]
:[[stunt double#Easter eggs]]
:[[stunt double#Easter_eggs]]
:[[stunt_double#Easter_Eggs|stunt double Easter Eggs]]
:[[stunt%20double#Easter%20Eggs]]
:[[stunt double#Easter_Eggs]]
:[[stunt double#4 Easter Eggs]]
:[[stunt double#4|Easter Eggs]]
:It should be this: [[stunt double#Easter Eggs]]
:[http://beta.hrwiki.org/index.php/stunt_double#Easter_Eggs]

I have no idea. I think I'm pretty sure the underbar doesn't matter. I can't make anything out from [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Section#Section_linking this] either. What could it be? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 27 Jul 2004 (MST)

:[[stunt double#Transcript]]
:[[stunt double#Screenshot]]
:[[stunt double#transcript]]
:[[stunt double#screenshot]]
:[[stunt_double#Transcript]]
:[[stunt_double#Screenshot]]
:[[stunt_double#transcript]]
:[[stunt_double#screenshot]]
:[[cartoon#Transcript]]
:[[cartoon#transcript]]
:[[cartoon]]

Yup, still no idea. I thought maybe it had something to do with the spaces, but I guess it doesn't. Let's try something else...

:[[#Second section]]
:[[#Third section]]
:[[#Fourth section]]
:[[#Fifth]]

Okay, something must be wrong with our install. Those should work. It seems to not be recognizing the "#". -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:22, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

Well, you remember all my anchors on my old wikipage, right? When I copied it to wikipedia, it did the same thing...maybe there's just something we're not doing right? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:12, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

I don't know what it is. As Tom said, they ''should'' work. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 13:30, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

Test:

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double#Easter_Eggs

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double%23Easter_Eggs

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Stunt_double#Easter_Eggs

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Stunt_double%23Easter_Eggs

I don't know the answer, but a difference is that the 2nd line gives a page with # in it, while the 4th does not. The 1st line works and can be used as workaround.--[[User:patrick|patrick]] 00:16, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

:'''IT WORKS!!''' --[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 13:50, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Indeed it does! Though it is important to note that case still matters. As expected, I suppose.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:53, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==Fun fact removal==

*When Strong Bad said that he's in a car, this is reference to the [[car|101st e-mail]] when he said that he has never been in a car. If there's a dangeresque 2, then Dangeresque 1 was filmed before the stunt double e-mail, which was before Strong Bad claimed that he was never in a car before. Therefore, Strong Bad was lying.

...because it was never made clear that Strong Bad owns the car: he was simply using it as a prop.

*I always thought that Dangeresque 1 was just thrown together as an excuse for not having Dangeresque 3. After all, the sign at the beginning says "Dangeresque 1" rather than simply "Dangeresque", and it also says "Not in 3D" which would make no sense if it was made before Strong Bad's announcement that D3 would be in 3D. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 15:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Neva Blink ==
That fun fact about Strong Bad never blinking with his sunglasses on...uh...you may not have noticed, but Strong Bad never blinks as it is..ever. In fact, I once emailed him asking him why I've never seen him with his eyes closed. - [[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

*Here are some places to see Strong Bad with his eyes closed:
**[[In Search of the Yello Dello]]
**[[A Jorb Well Done]]
**[[Some Stupid Turkey]]
**[[super powers]]
--[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 01:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

== Closed Fun Facts ==

These fun facts were on [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] page and closed. I you wish to debate these, leave a note, but do not let your vote be confused with the original ones.

===Explanation needed? (DECLINED)===

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005
===Constantinople? (Declined)===
The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Leaning towards decline.''' It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== All right for a montage ===
{{stufffact|The end credit photo montage is similar to the one Strong Bad created in [[montage]].}}
{{stuffverdict|22:35, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)|00:50, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|8|0|dangeresque 3}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== People's Court ===
{{stufffact|As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The People's Court|The People's Court]]".}}
{{stuffverdict|17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)|08:42, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|13|1|dangeresque 3}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== So holdable a gun ===
{{stufffact|The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.}}
{{stuffverdict|03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)|07:53, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|11|1|dangeresque 3}}

==Goof?==
The Homestar Runner had no trouble remembering his lines in Dangeresque 3, however he couldn't remember them in "First Time Here?" or in "Fluffy Puff Commercial." Should this be added to the Wiki page for this email?
*There is no proof that Homestar got his lines perfectly. FTH and FPC are pretty much just blooper reels. Dangeresque is a true movie, so they would re-shoot until he got it right, and then use 'that' shot. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 18:23, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**However, if Homestar couldn't get his lines perfectly, Strong Bad would have kicked him off the set and recast someone else as Dangeresque Too. Strong Bad was fed up with Homestar forgetting his lines in "First Time Here" and forcefully took over. Considering Dangeresque 1 was comprised of several scenes instead of just a short announcement, Strong Bad would most certainly not brook Homestar's ineptitude.
**I believe he was improv-ing. His speech seemed a bit more confident than regular Homestar-babble. He was uncharacteristically focused and serious during this film. Although he responded to the word "Dangeresque" and laughed cheesily at the same times as SB did those things, the two of them could have been "on the same page" and willingly cooperating for the short time of the email. I think it's happened before. If he was making it up on the spot, he wouldn't have lines to memorize.
I think it should be added to show one extreme of Homestar's personality.

"First Timer Here?" and "Fluffy Puff Commercial" were both made a while ago. Homestar's memory and skill to remember information could have increased over this time period. [[User:Teh_Frossty_One|Teh_Frossty_One]]

== Really late fun fact ==

I have a hunch that SB imitating the phone ring juuust might be a reference to the extra-low-budget scifi film Monster-a-Go-Go (which the IMDB currently ranks as the worst film ever). You see, due to the low budget and the director not being a very good director, a guy offscreen imitated the phone ringing. It's probably a bit of a stretch, though. This is really late because I discovered the wiki in the time of the NSMC vandal. Well, right before that actually, but I still didn't know that much about H*R. --I'll get a username soon, but for now my name is... um... Bob. I don't have much imagination. [[User:69.171.44.42|69.171.44.42]]

== Miscellaneous Downloads link ==

It isn't working here, but it's working in [[huttah!]]. Why? --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 02:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== Here comes little debate with a gun in its hands ==

<blockquote>The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on Thoraxcorp.com's intern page. This line could also be reference to the song "Little Man With a Gun in His Hand" by The Minutemen, one of Matt Chapman's favorite bands.</blockquote>

"Could be." I submit that the part of this fact relating to Thorax is an Inside Ref., the "could be" is a ref to Real-World. Discuss. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

== Commentary Fast Forward? ==
Is it worth putting in here that Mike's comment about this being the only time we see the top of Bubs' would later be incorrect, after the appearance in [[retirement]]?

Talk:Blubb-O's

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:09:49 GMT

StarLion:

==Appearances??==
I knew when I started the page that someone might remove [[Drive-Thru]] from the list of appearances. However, neither Drive-Thru nor [[nightlife]] shows more evidence than the other that the "invisible" (as described by SB) restaurant was actually in the toon. In nightlife, a bag of food from the restaurant appeared, and in Drive-Thru, the drive-thru speaker from the restaurant appeared. So, at this point, which is more likely to be an "appearance" ? The bag of food could clearly be miles from the actual restaurant, and a mobile drive-thru speaker could also be miles from the actual restaurant. How can we list either as an appearance, or, alternatively, why wouldn't we list both? I hope I'm making some sense. Either we '''list both, or don't list either'''. That's my opinion. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

:Since both [[Drive-Thru]] and [[nightlife]] are linked in the opening paragraph, and since the restaurant doesn't strictly "appear" in either toon, I think we could do without the Appearances section altogether. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::'''Agreed''' -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]]

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StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:07:32 GMT

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Talk:Videlectrix

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:43:06 GMT

StarLion: /* Another Possible Real World Reference */

{{featuredarticle}}

== What is Videlectrix? ==

I'm confused: Is Videlectrix the brothers Chaps, or is it some other guys they outsource the games to?

:Videlectrix is the Chaps' "company", and most Videlectrix games are credited to Matt, Jonathan, and Mike. We're not sure who Jonathan is, but I'm guessing he's a Flash guru who does some of the scripting stuff that the Chaps aren't as good at. To my knowledge they have never outsourced any of their games. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 07:29, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Description ==

Does anyone remember what the description of the Videlectrix Main Page was prior to January 14? I think this may have been before the catalog, game music and gallery sections were added, but I think there still was some text on the main page. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Revert ==

I don't think the music track would be a sighting... the band's track was released October 24th, 2000, but Videlectrix didn't even publicly exist until February 17, 2002, so the band's track definitely came first. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Inside joke ==
*Should this really be an inside joke? It's been featured way more than 3 times. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:03, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== real world refernces ==
Their company may be a nod/reference to the computer/game company "Vectrex"

:I think the wanton abuse mascot is a nod to the wanton abuse the [[wikipedia:DMA Design|DMA Design]] logo got on the starting screens from Grand Theft Auto 1 to 3. -- [[User:84.65.143.192|84.65.143.192]] 19:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== I was wondering ==

I was wondering if anyone knew what they used to make Peasants Quest. I really like it and would like to create my own quest; without a peasant of course.

*My guess is they used flash. It probably took a long time though. -Swimma Dan.

== picture ==

Who are those people in the picture? Are they Mike and Matt? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 03:22, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== "Recent" update ==

The Videlectrix server still gives the last modified date of the main page swf as "Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:55:52 GMT"... I'm not sure what that means, but I think either there's a glitch in the server (or the matrix) making it give the wrong date (unlikely), or it hasn't actually changed, and we made a mistake in the original transcription, which was only just noticed today. Thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd like to catch the original transcriber, Venusy's thoughts, as well as if anybody remembers double checking his work at the time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::I'm fairly sure that I made a mistake transcribing it. I seem to remember it being something like the "free clinic". I guess my brain and fingers were communicating not good that day. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 01:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:::For some reason I can remember and/or I somehow have it logged in my brain that when I expected it to say "cure", it said something else unexpected (most likely "free clinic" of course). I'm not 100% sure; the details are quite sketchy. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Hmmm... Well somehow I still have this slight nagging feeling that I remember it saying "cure" on the offial site at an earlier time, but I'm sure that's just my mind playing tricks on me. I can't fight the facts, it seems that there was simply an initial transcription mistake, and no change. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== Down ==

Yeah, I've noticed that the Videlectrix website is down. Works for anyone else? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:Negative. The site's definitely down. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::Is it temporary or has it been completely shut down? Or do you even know in the first place? [[User:24.48.189.235|24.48.189.235]] 04:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::No way to know right now, and best not to speculate. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:Ditto. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 19:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

:It's been down for over a month now, I think that this at least warrants some kind of mention. [[User:131.194.93.243|131.194.93.243]] 20:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::I agree. Some paragraph in the opening section, perhaps. By the way, today (November 16 United States time) is the day that I noticed that the site went back up. It's the same day that the [[Store T-shirts|Videlectrix T-shirt]] was released, and there was a link to videlectrix.com in the store description. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== Which brothers? Sean and Graly? ==

On the [[Peasant's Quest Preview]] commentary, we hear:

<blockquote>'''MATT:''' ... That's our brothers, Sean and Grake— 
 
'''MIKE:''' Sean and Graly. Graly. 
 
'''MATT:''' Yeah. My moustache in those, Mike, we couldn't find the brown moustache we usually use, and so Mike Photoshopped some of my hair onto my upper lip. 
 
'''MIKE:''' Good old stamp tool. 
 
'''MATT:''' Looks pretty creepy if you look at it close. ...</blockquote>

Clearly the mention of two other brothers is a joke, as Matt continues to describe ''his'' mustache. As an edit was recently made by someone who apparently fell for the joke, thought we should have it noted here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

== Vectrex ==
I think this might be the inspiration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectrex

:Do you mean for the name, "Videlectrix"? Interesting idea. I tend to think it's just a combination of "Video" and "Electrics", with an "x" added on the end for extra cutting-edge-ness.

:By the way, for a little while I was looking at the Vectrex's graphics as a possible inspiration for [[StrongBadZone]], but after a lot of screenshot comparisons, I decided that it's a lot more like the [[Wikipedia:Virtual Boy|Virtual Boy]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==Another Possible Real World Reference==
Videlectrix sounds a lot like Scalectrix, also known as [[Wikipedia:Scalextric|Scalextric]], an electronic slot-car racing scheme. Normally I'd say it's just coincidence, BUT you do see Strong Bad and Homestar playing with something that looks a LOT like Scaletrix in [[Theme_Song_Video]], so TBC do know of it's existence. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:30, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:But Strong Bad/Homestar playing with slot cars has nothing to do with Videlectrix. And regarding whether or not TBC know of Scal-whatever, there are many electronic [[Wikipedia:Slot car|slot car]] racing deals out there, so maybe they haven't heard of it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed, but the name does sound very similar, especially since the natural combination (Video + Electric = Videlectic) doesn't produce Videlectrix. It's one of those things we'll never really know without asking TBC directly, but it is a possibility. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 15:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Videlectrix

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:30:15 GMT

StarLion: /* Another Possible Real World Reference */ I really gotta remember how to do this. :P

Talk:Videlectrix

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:26:32 GMT

StarLion: /* Another Possible Real World Reference */ (correct my own text)

Talk:Videlectrix

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:24:43 GMT

StarLion: /*Another Possible Real World Reference*/

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== What is Videlectrix? ==

I'm confused: Is Videlectrix the brothers Chaps, or is it some other guys they outsource the games to?

:Videlectrix is the Chaps' "company", and most Videlectrix games are credited to Matt, Jonathan, and Mike. We're not sure who Jonathan is, but I'm guessing he's a Flash guru who does some of the scripting stuff that the Chaps aren't as good at. To my knowledge they have never outsourced any of their games. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 07:29, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Description ==

Does anyone remember what the description of the Videlectrix Main Page was prior to January 14? I think this may have been before the catalog, game music and gallery sections were added, but I think there still was some text on the main page. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Revert ==

I don't think the music track would be a sighting... the band's track was released October 24th, 2000, but Videlectrix didn't even publicly exist until February 17, 2002, so the band's track definitely came first. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Inside joke ==
*Should this really be an inside joke? It's been featured way more than 3 times. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:03, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== real world refernces ==
Their company may be a nod/reference to the computer/game company "Vectrex"

:I think the wanton abuse mascot is a nod to the wanton abuse the [[wikipedia:DMA Design|DMA Design]] logo got on the starting screens from Grand Theft Auto 1 to 3. -- [[User:84.65.143.192|84.65.143.192]] 19:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== I was wondering ==

I was wondering if anyone knew what they used to make Peasants Quest. I really like it and would like to create my own quest; without a peasant of course.

*My guess is they used flash. It probably took a long time though. -Swimma Dan.

== picture ==

Who are those people in the picture? Are they Mike and Matt? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 03:22, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== "Recent" update ==

The Videlectrix server still gives the last modified date of the main page swf as "Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:55:52 GMT"... I'm not sure what that means, but I think either there's a glitch in the server (or the matrix) making it give the wrong date (unlikely), or it hasn't actually changed, and we made a mistake in the original transcription, which was only just noticed today. Thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd like to catch the original transcriber, Venusy's thoughts, as well as if anybody remembers double checking his work at the time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::I'm fairly sure that I made a mistake transcribing it. I seem to remember it being something like the "free clinic". I guess my brain and fingers were communicating not good that day. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 01:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:::For some reason I can remember and/or I somehow have it logged in my brain that when I expected it to say "cure", it said something else unexpected (most likely "free clinic" of course). I'm not 100% sure; the details are quite sketchy. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Hmmm... Well somehow I still have this slight nagging feeling that I remember it saying "cure" on the offial site at an earlier time, but I'm sure that's just my mind playing tricks on me. I can't fight the facts, it seems that there was simply an initial transcription mistake, and no change. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== Down ==

Yeah, I've noticed that the Videlectrix website is down. Works for anyone else? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:Negative. The site's definitely down. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::Is it temporary or has it been completely shut down? Or do you even know in the first place? [[User:24.48.189.235|24.48.189.235]] 04:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::No way to know right now, and best not to speculate. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:Ditto. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 19:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

:It's been down for over a month now, I think that this at least warrants some kind of mention. [[User:131.194.93.243|131.194.93.243]] 20:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::I agree. Some paragraph in the opening section, perhaps. By the way, today (November 16 United States time) is the day that I noticed that the site went back up. It's the same day that the [[Store T-shirts|Videlectrix T-shirt]] was released, and there was a link to videlectrix.com in the store description. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== Which brothers? Sean and Graly? ==

On the [[Peasant's Quest Preview]] commentary, we hear:

<blockquote>'''MATT:''' ... That's our brothers, Sean and Grake— 
 
'''MIKE:''' Sean and Graly. Graly. 
 
'''MATT:''' Yeah. My moustache in those, Mike, we couldn't find the brown moustache we usually use, and so Mike Photoshopped some of my hair onto my upper lip. 
 
'''MIKE:''' Good old stamp tool. 
 
'''MATT:''' Looks pretty creepy if you look at it close. ...</blockquote>

Clearly the mention of two other brothers is a joke, as Matt continues to describe ''his'' mustache. As an edit was recently made by someone who apparently fell for the joke, thought we should have it noted here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

== Vectrex ==
I think this might be the inspiration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectrex

:Do you mean for the name, "Videlectrix"? Interesting idea. I tend to think it's just a combination of "Video" and "Electrics", with an "x" added on the end for extra cutting-edge-ness.

:By the way, for a little while I was looking at the Vectrex's graphics as a possible inspiration for [[StrongBadZone]], but after a lot of screenshot comparisons, I decided that it's a lot more like the [[Wikipedia:Virtual Boy|Virtual Boy]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==Another Possible Real World Reference==
Videlectrix sounds a lot like Scalectrix, also known as [[Wikipedia:Scalextric|Scalextric]], an electronic slot-car racing scheme. Normally I'd say it's just coincidence, BUT you do see Lil Strong Bad and Lil Strong Sad playing with something that looks a LOT like Scaletrix in [[Theme_Song_Video]], so TBC do know of it's existence.

Talk:Pizz Points

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:13:06 GMT

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== Delete? ==
I think all of this information can be mentioned in [[The Pizz]]. Plus, most of this page is just transcript of [[pizza joint]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:02, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

:I think so too. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:'''Agreed''' [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 02:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:12:59 GMT

StarLion: /* or maybe... */

== Vague page description ==

There are lots of inconsistencies in the Homestar Runner universe; some are clearly intentional, some are probably not, and most fall somewhere in between. We already have places to note these on the individual toons' pages when they come up; why have a totally separate page for them? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is this page basically what the Goofs section in every single transcript page is for? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it could be a page for contradictory things in Homestar Runner? That's a little less vague. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:Shwoo's idea might work out. This is basically an organizational thing. If I wanted to find all the inconsistencies right now, it would take me FOREVER. Being spread out among dozens of pages, I would probably never find many of them, since a search for "inconsistencies" brings up 4 results. It's just a way to make things easier to find. And that's the point right? Making information easily accessable for everyone else. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 00:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::But if you notice an inconsistency in a toon, is that not what the Goofs section is for? Why not search "goofs" and see what you get? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Not every goof is an inconsistancy. Looking at the goofs on the wiki, most of them are of the "Strong Bad spelled a word wrong" or "the animation looks weird" type.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Shwoo is right. Only major inconsistencies are mentioned anyway, and most of the minor ones are ignored. You can search "goofs" all you want, it will come up with a result for every cartoon page on the entire wiki, and that won't help you in any way whatsoever locate your inconsistencies. This page at least deserves a chance, but then again, all of my pages were deleted before they had a chance...{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 01:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::I want to give this page a chance . The bits like how the Lappy have 10 MB instead of 5 MB is a good one. I'm still not removing the {{tl|tobedeleted}} template, but I'm for this page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
This is interesting. I'll bet you the Star Trek wiki (if there is one even, I haven't looked) lists at least the major things where continuity is broken within the universe. (If they don't, maybe they should....) Internal inconsistencies are pretty interesting to most people. Creators of a universe also create a world of "fact" which is bound to certain expectations; when the facts fall short of those expectations, it's clearly notable. I see this page as a place to list all the major issues where "Homestar geeks" (read: geekier than us) would argue about which way of looking at things is the one best supported by the canon. I say allow this to develop for a while; if it does, '''keep'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

If this page is kept, it should be renamed [[Wikipedia:Retcon|Retcons]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::Technically, a "retcon" is not when the creators merely contradict themselves, but when they indicate that the new version of "reality" is the correct one. For example, if TBC released a toon telling how Strong Bad and Homestar were friends in their childhood, that may be considered a retcon as it intentionally changes the account from [[flashback]]. The Strong Sad navel drilling might be part of a retcon. But the disk space of the Lappy changing isn't really a retcon, by my read of its definition. And The Cheat being unable to say "Dennis" yet being able to voice characters in his animations is a close call. Additionally, not only is "inconsistencies" a bit more wide-reaching than "retcon" but is a more well-known term that will be a bit more accessible to readers not up on words not found in the Oxford Dictionary. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:Long live this page! The more the merrier!--[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 16:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::I don't consider all the site's inconsistencies as "goofs"; the main reason being that inconsistencies often appear between two or more different toons (or games), whereas goofs happen in one toon only. For example, the Trogdor-Peasant's Quest inconsistency (see article) is, of course, between [[TROGDOR!]] and [[Peasant's Quest]]. An example of a goof (or, in this case, a remark) would be Strong Sad's "covered bridge" obsession seen in [[Fall Float Parade]], which began and ended in one cartoon. My bottom line is that there ''is'' a difference, and I therefore vote '''No Delort.''' — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:58, 4 December 2006
:::There, I just added an inconsistancy in the King of Town DVD Commentary. I think this is enough info for '''no deletion'''. Keep this page. I found it useful. --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 21:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

So is it okay to take the {{tl|tobedeleted}} template off now? It's been over two weeks. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
:I believe that would be a good idea. Now about that moving. I don't think that the name needs to be changed.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I just want to note that if you are looking for how a specific toon is inconsistent with another, it would be better to look under that toon's "remarks" section, not its "goofs" section. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Apparel ==

*There are several places where Strong Sad wears a "one-time type" article of clothing, ("The Blue Ones," "The Sturge" t-shirt, the two Geddup Noise shirts, etc). I think these should be left out in this section. The "wildebeest pheromones in his laundry" is more consistent with the whole"inconsistency" thing, because it's as though he's saying he ''always'' wears clothes (I think. Sorry, but I'm having trouble explaining what I mean.) I think there's another instance of this type of discrepancy, but I can't remember where it is... [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 22:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
*True dat. I made that edit. Leave it out, then... {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
*Yeah. wait, why does his laundry only have to be his clothes? why not things like towels, etc.
[[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 01:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna take the whole fact out. In addition to the "he could do laundry that doesn't consist of wearable clothes", which is totally valid, it's been established that he does ''own'' quite a few articles of clothing. Yes, he doesn't wear them often, and he says so in his journal, but that doesn't prevent him from ever doing laundry. (analogy: I don't really wear suits. But I do ''own'' a suit. If I were to say something like "Did you take my suit to the cleaners?" it wouldn't really be an inconsistency with my not generally wearing suits.) In other words, I think one should interpret the line as "I don't really wear clothes [very often]" rather than "I don't really wear clothes [ever]" because, well, he sometimes does. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 13:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Compy screen width and length ==

It's been very inconsistent, through the main Strong Bad view, and through examples in [[replacement]] and [[huttah!]]. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 00:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

What I mean is the width has been 4:3'd at times and then it's a bit wider... --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 00:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:Hm. It's true. I say it can go on the page. Anyone else? {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

== The chair ==

Here's one to add: In [[the chair]], Strong Bad gets a new chair, but in [[what i want]], he's back to the stool.

That's not an inconsistency, Strong Bad just went back to Stooly. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 12:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Tongue or no tongue? ==

I just realized: In the DVD version of Homestar Runner's theme song video, Homestar sticks out his tongue while figuring out an answer for the test, but there are TONS of times when he says words with the letter "L" in them without lifting it.
Not to mention Strong Mad, who had his tongue out while carving "DAGRON" on the table, but no tongue present when he says "L" words or any words with "L" in them. See also Remarks in [[retirement]]. This whole description should count as a long-lasting inconsistency, shouldn't it?
-(Feb. 3, 2007)
:This delves into the topic of "cartoon physics". In short, we don't know the method these "dumn animal characters" use to produce the phoneme /l/. One might assume it's the same as we do, given the presence of a tongue, but that's not necessarily the case. When two apparently conflicting facts can in some way coexist within a cartoon, that's not really an inconsistency in my mind. When they cannot be reconciled based on each simply having to be impossible given the other, that's an inconsistency. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

== Anti Chicken-Wings ==
I think it's kind of unnecessary to be arguing over the "chicken wings" thing. I made this article for inconsistencies and goofs IN-BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT TOONS, not within the same toon. That's the Goofs section. If we really can't decide, then someone should STUFF it.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 03:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you for enforcing that. I thought it was just another case of crazy cartoon logic. If we counted that, we'd probably have to count the fact that Coach Z develops a 5 o'clock shadow in less than 10 seconds in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], or maybe even that the Brothers Strong don't bear any similarity. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::Another thing related to this that annoyed me was that before I became Bad Bad Guy, I asked if it was OK to put unnatural on [[History according to Strong Bad]] (except back then it was Strong Bad Lore), DorianGray told me it fit "just fine" on Inconsistencies, even though it was already deleted. He didn't even tell me why he thought that. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Senior Prom "Inconsistency" ==
I would argue that it's not an inconsistency for Strong Bad to say he never wears underwear, only to be revealed wearing underwear in [[senior prom]]. I mean, we don't know how many years earlier that toon is. That's like someone saying "I never wear diapers," and being called a liar because they wore diapers as a baby. Sure, to be more accurate he could've said, "I never wear underwear ''anymore''", but I'm still not sure. [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]] 11:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== The Spooky Woods ==

Does it count if in Where's the Cheat, the woods are still spooky even though it isn't Halloween, but in Happy Hallow-day, they are in a gentler state?
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It's strange to me that The Spooky Woods is undetermined whether or not is it was not spooky during the day or not as for the fact that it was not determined whether or not Strong Mad was looking during the day.-- [[User:Ang the Ephemeral|Ang the Ephemeral]] 4:39, 12 March 2007
:Well, if no one responds to [[Talk:Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe#The Spooky Woods|what I write]] I assume it means there are no objections. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Also, when I tried to write it in the Hallow-day article, it got deleted for the reason of "it belongs on that page." [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Since it's not ''Halloween'' in Where's The Cheat, it might be expected from Hallow-day that the Spooky Woods on a normal night would look like a nighttime version of that scene. I hope that didn't sound like speculation. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
::The line in the article about how the woods looks spooky when its not halloween, and comparing it to how it doesnt look spooky when it is halloween, but its not dark out ... that doesnt make a lick of sense -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== highschool ==

I'm a little curious if the highschool inconsistencies are still worth keeping even though it's been confirmed they aren't true. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

== Image idea ==

A comparison between the shotgunned Compy in virus and retirement, similar to that in the article of the latter. Give me your thought, even if it's something like, "This article doesn't need an image" [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
:Or even better, Pom Pom jumping Strong Badia in [[Summer Short Shorts]], revealing a forest to its left, and King Bubsgonzola Supreme stomping past Strongbadia in [[unnatural]], revealing the castle where the forest should be. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
::I just found out that was a different side of Strong Badia, so I'll go with a comparison between the [[Bear Holding a Shark]] scaring The Cheat, and [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] revealing the Bear can not be seen from behind the fence. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I kinda can't get the images myself... [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Why not just "Inconsistencies"? ==

I had moved it there, but the misguided Loafing changed it back, for some reason. Is there any reason at all for the title to be the long, drawn-out, painfully fanboy-esque "Inconsistencies Within the Homestar Runner Universe" and not just "Inconsistencies"? If so, please state why here. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 11:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
:The phrase Homestar Runner universe was recently used in a sketchbook update, it's not that fanboy-esque or painful. Anyway, I think the current title works well. Inconsistancies isn't really specific enough. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:Darth, you know very well that so far, your attempts to rid the wiki of the term "universe" have been unsuccessful. And I'm not going to start discussing this all over again. If you move pages without discussion because you think that "universe" is "jargon", then you know that the majority of the editors will oppose the move, and this is disruptive, unacceptable behaviour. This also goes for personal attacks. Consider this your last warning.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::Now, taking a step back from the whole universe issue, I believe the long title should stay. While we don't have titles such as [[Running Gags Within the Homestar Runner Universe]], and while [[Inconsistencies]] would actually be sufficient, I believe that "Inconsistencies Within the ... Universe" gives the article an edge. The idea of inconsistencies within the fabric of the universe is way more interesting than just inconsistencies.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:::That is a very bigoted way to look at it. The article itself mentions namedrops the term "Homestar Runner universe," isn't that enough? Inconsistencies is ''concise'' and gets the point across perfectly. It doesn't take beating readers over the head to make them experience the cool atmosphere of the words "Homestar Runner universe" (which is, regardless of its canon status, jargon). Beating readers over the head with the term may also mislead them to think that it is a key element of homestarrunner.com. So, in short, any reason left to oppose its move is completely childish and unencyclopedic in every way. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 15:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Also, while I find your desire to give the article's name an "edge" admirable, I must oppose it as well. Should I give myself an "edge" by describing myself as a fourty-year-old football player who surfs the web in NOFX undies and has a thing for beef jerkie? No, I'd rather be thoroughly honest and describe myself as the boring emo rudie that I am. Besides, I could get in trouble for that. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

:::::I'd like to get some votes. So, uh, please vote!

:::::Here are some reasons why "Inconsistencies" is better: 1) it's shorter, 2) it's more concise, 3) yes, they're within Homestar Runner. Duh! Yeah, I thought it was a list of alleged inconsistencies within the Bible.

:::::Why to stick to the name I don't care to type out because it's so lengthy but just typed more by avoiding it: 1) it's more, erm, "edgy." It makes people feel like there's more to Homestar Runner than a website about a pale-skinned, alien hipster.

:::::Votez, plz! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 14:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Loafing. Furthermore, DKX, your one-person vendetta against the perfectly good use of the term "H*R universe" has really gotten old. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

While I understand your ridiculous personal vendetta against making references to the Homestar Runner universe for its redundancy, the pharse is actually valid in this scenario. Obviously, the inconsistencies are relating to Homestar Runner. You're misinterpreting the meaning of the title as "Inconsistencies Related to the Homestar Runner Universe". If this article was just "Inconsistencies", it would be implying intra-cartoon inconsistencies, which is what the Goofs section of every email, toon, short, or anything else is for. This is inter-cartoon inconsistencies, meaning ones that traverse one or more cartoons. Inconsistencies would be too inspecific for that specific purpose. Although you may not be able to see it from your single-mindedness, the average reader of the wiki would subconsciously observe the liminal differences as they thought about what the content of the page would be. I believe I created this one, and I'm sure that I intended the title to contain "Homestar Runner universe" within it.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 00:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Darth, we're really trying to give you a second chance here. Even if you're completely and totally opposed to the term "Homestar Runner Universe", that doesn't mean you need to proclaim it to the whole world in a very rude manner over and over (and over) again. We've all had our share of things we don't like. I personally don't like that [[Wilbur|this article]] exists, but I didn't make a huge deal about it. I was frustrated for awhile and then just let it go. That's what you need to do. Majority pretty much rules around here, so if you're the only one that doesn't like this title (and you are), you just need to get over it and move on to better, more important things. We're trying to give you opportunities to do that, but if you don't take them, people will never respect you. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 00:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== what I want ==

I must have read Strong Sad's Lament 5 or more times by now, and I can't find a post where he claims he doesn't dress. What date is it from? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:Last line of the entry titled "The Curse of Keen Eyes - 08.19.04" It's on the [[HR:/sadjournal/index.html|first page]]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 21:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::I see it now. Thanks. That took way less time than it did when I posted it on the talk page for Lament. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== Powered by The Cheat Voices ==

How do we know for sure if this is ''actually'' The Cheat making these voices? It could be one of those programs where you type in the text and it says it for you. - {{User:Pants 3000/sig}}
:I think they said it in an interview that The Cheat voices his own cartoons. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
::It may have been just an idea that's now abandoned or unused. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I remember reading on (I think) the [[Powered by The Cheat]] page that he did his own voices for that. I'll look into it. - {{User:Pants 3000/sig}} 13:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
:It was mentioned in [[Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003|this interview]].

== Reasons for my removal of these things ==

*[[Old-Timey]] — It is debatable whether or not color exists in their universe.
**[[Ballad of The Sneak]] claims that The Sneak is yellow like his modern-day counterpart, The Cheat, but when characters from the Old-Timey universe and other universes such as modern [[Free Country, USA]] and [[20X6]] travel between each others' worlds in toons such as [[alternate universe]] and [[20X6 vs. 1936]], the Old-Timey characters are still black and white, while other characters retain their colour in the Old-Timey universe.

This is not an inconsistancy as much as it is making fun of the differences between Old-Timey and modern day. Basically, the old timey ones can see color somehow, but do not appear in color.

*[[The King of Town DVD Commentary]] — Strong Bad claims [[The King of Town]] "lives in like some two bedroom job, like, next door to me", when in [[Where's The Cheat]], [[the bet]], and numerous other places, The King is shown living in his castle, not in the house Strong Bad proclaimed.

This is strong bad saying it, clearly he's demeaning the king baselessly.

*[[The King of Town DVD Commentary]] — Strong Bad also claims that Homestar can't read, and doesn't know the alphabet. But Homestar reads and writes in a number of toons, including [[Arcade Game]], [[50 emails]], and [[Cool Things]].

Same argument as before, but even more so.

*Email [[cheat talk]] — Strong Bad claims that [[The Cheat]] can't learn English, but The Cheat went on to make a number of cartoons with English voice acting.

Speculation that the voices come from the cheat. Remember, he uses macs. Macs have better text-to-speech programs than windows, and has some pretty realistic voices. I know this, not because i am a mac user, but because the principal of my highschool, (er, high school) was. One time i got in trouble for fighting with another kid and we got sent to his office, and he didn't say a word the entire time. He had his computer talk for him. I later found out it was actually a tactic to get us to calm down. It worked, because when we left we weren't fighting anymore, just making fun of what a weirdo the principal was. Okay, long tangential rant over. Next removed fact.

*[[Peasant's Quest]] — Trogdor says that he is invincible, but in [[TROGDOR!]], he can be killed by touching a knight or an arrow.

People claim to be invincible all the time and they're not. The titanic was unsinkable, remember?

*Email [[senior prom]] — After Strong Bad's pants are poofed away, he wears boxer shorts, but in [[New Boots]], he reminds The Cheat that he doesn't wear underwear.

Duh! he DOESN'T! That's what he looks like under his pants. Just like the mask and boxing gloves are his face and hands! Just kidding. I didn't actually remove this one.

*Email [[time capsule#Commentary Transcript|time capsule]] (DVD commentary) — Marzipan revealed that Homestar Runner's middle name was Hal, but in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] Marzipan calls Homestar "Homestar Michael Runner".

Shortly after, she corrects herself and says that's her pet name for him. I contend that Hal can be a short pet name for Michael.

[[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 05:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think most of those are legitimate. That the characters are lying is a possible explanation for the inconsistancies, not a reason why they're definitely not. I can think of explanations for a lot of the things listed on this page. Anyway, there was an interview where they stated that The Cheat does the voices for his cartoons. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 09:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

::Well, that's another issue that i've never seen addressed. What exactly is considered [[wikipedia:Canon (fiction)|canon]] and what isn't? I personally think that interviews and DVD commentaries should be left out. They can say stuff in interviews that can be scrapped later, and they're really not connected with them directly. In fact, this line:
:::A [[20X6]] version of Trogdor, called [[Trogador]], was revealed at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk]], but did not appear in the Homestar Runner canon until [[Happy Trogday]] was released on the third anniversary of Trogdor's debut.
::appears [[Trogdor|here]] implying that we ''don't'' consider interviews to be canon. As for the commentaries, they are impromptu, spur-of-the-moment type of things. A forum for them to say off the wall things about each particular toon, just for the sake of hilarity. I think this topic of dual standards (or maybe lack of official standards on the subject) should be discussed further. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 18:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:::P.S. The only other two mentions of the word canon on this site are in [[best thing]] referring to the canon of sherlock holmes, not HR, and [[The Homestar Runner Mysfit-steries]] which says that strong bad's memories cannot be considered canon. There needs to be a category on the [[HRWiki:Standards|standards page]] concerning what is and is not considered canon. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 18:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't think the King's castle and Trogdor being invincible should count either. It's possible the King uses that apt offscreen and that Trogdor is lying. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

One reason the old-timey color thing could stay is that Old-Timey Strong Bad called modern SB a "brightly colored buffoon." [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's writing ==

WRiting really tiny and READING really tiny are 2 different things. WIthout the comical magnifying glass, he'd have no reason to write tinily in his notebook..
:What does reading have to do with anything? The inconsistency is that he wrote a novel on a grain of rice, but it took him two pages of that notebook for him to write one word. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]]
::He was writing a note to himself, so he writes at a size he can read. It's hardly an inconsistency.

== Resolve the cliffhanger please. Thanks. ==

*Email [[cliffhangers]] — Coach Z attempts to reveal the [[Thnikkaman]]'s "secret sorcret identity" by removing his [[Cool Shades|cool shades]], but in [[monument]], Bubs (as the Thnikkaman) takes off his shades without his identity being compromised. 
I think this is debatable because we do not know if Coach Z has already seen The Thnikkaman without his shades. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
:It's also debatable in that it might be the removing of the shades that makes <s>him lose his ability to fly</s> his identity revealed. Anyway, Strong Bad and The Cheat were pretty distracted, and that may be why the removal of glasses doesn't give the identity away. On the other hand, Strong Bad might be playing along totally, whereas Coach Z is actually fooled. There are a lot of possible scenarios here, and none of them allow for the kind of contradiction a valid entry on this article would display. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
::So you want me to put it back, or keep it off, or what? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
:::It's likely that everyone is fooled by the Thnikkaman costume in monument. The reason is not because of the cool shades, but the large "TH" sign taped to his chest probably "keeps his identity secret" in the minds of Strong Bad and Coach Z. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 14:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

== Teeth? ==

I read that the underlings/theme song thing regarding Homestar's teeth was put up and then deleted. I believe it is also notable that the part of theme song where Homestar had teeth was within Strong Bad's imagination. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad and Limozeen ==

If the inconsistency on the very bottom of the list was removed from [[concert#Remarks]], should I remove it from this article as well? I think it's suspicious enough to stay here. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:04, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it needs removed from either. I was kinda wondering about that (the inconsistency) myself.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 04:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
::I didn't think of it 'til I noticed the fun fact. It's actually a pretty interesting tidbit, and should stay here and there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it should stay only here, because strong sad could of forgot, or he might not of paid attention to the show that much, or any number of reasons like those. So we can keep it here, take it out on the page, and mention what i said here along with the remark.--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 04:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Considering how pushy Strong Bad is with his opinions, I find it hard to believe that anyone what lives in the same town, let alone the same house, has never heard of Limozeen.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 17:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Strong Sad paid enough attention for him to complain that there was no reason for them to be in space, so he probably knew the name of the show at least. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that the reason Strong Sad hasn't heard of Limozeen is probably because it was ''before'' he watched that Saturday morning cartoon. In the laundry room scene in email 175, you should notice that there are no seashells on the washer and dryer knobs. And at the end of [[redesign|email 153]], the seashells are hot glued on the knobs. Obviously, the laundry room scene might have taken place ''before'' emails 126 and 153. Just my theory. [[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 16:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's undies ==
I removed this fact. It seems like this page should be reserved for actual factual inconsistencies. It's not really verifiable whether Strong Bad was wearing underwear when he said it. Frankly, it always seemed to me like he was making stuff up to begin with. ("I'm all macho. I go commando! I am awesome!") It's not inconsistant, SB was just clearly lying [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 13:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Or he just didn't understand the concept of "Going Commando" when he said it. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 14:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::DAGRON misled you, StarLion. He was paraphrasing, not quoting directly. SB actually says, "But you made my underwears showing! Everybody knows I don't wear underwears!" {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== or maybe... ==

maybe [[carrot and kazoo hill]] and where [[pom pom]] was flipping were on different sides of [[Free Country USA]] [[User:Imdaman]]
: Doesnt work. Was one of the first things i thought of. the position of the flag relative to the fence, and the Tire, disprove this. -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Drive-Thru Whale

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:10:13 GMT

StarLion: /* Rename */ note to self, sign my agreement.

== Delete? ==

Please '''don't delete''' this! I spent a long time on this. I always create stuff and it always gets deleted. I'll do anything if you don't delete this. It is one of the main reasons in a toon. It fits all the things a page needs to have. It even has it's picture. If it was part of the comment, I can change it.
:I agree. I don't know why the delete template was put up without comment, anyway. It's a major part of a toon, and I see no reason to delete it. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 19:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I see no reason to remove the delete tags without a full discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it fits all the things it needs to have. Even Dr.Clash Agrees with me. Why would you delete. Even ask Dr.CDlash or anyone else (maybe not [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] ) and they will agree that it should not be deleted. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::I know there's no reason to remove the tags wothout discussion, but is there a reason to put them there without discussion, either. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::1) Stop begging not to have your page deleted. That's ''very, very'' annoying. Nonetheless... 2) I think this is a perfectly legit article. It's an item that plays a major part in [[Drive-Thru]]. So, '''DON'T DELETE''' --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::'''Maybe don't delete it.''' I haven't decided yet. But at the very least, it needs a serious rewrite. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Find a place to '''merge''' it to until it gets another appearance. --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 20:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Originally I was going to add a mention to [[The Field]], but there doesn't seem to be any room for that... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Look I'm not whining anymore but all the people agree. You should consider it, It's dot com. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::::::::You ''aren't whining''?! "''Please don't delete this! I spent a long time on this. I'll do anything if you don't delete this.''". That certainly sounds like whining. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 20:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is it okay if delete to be deleted tag? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::::::::::::Nope. Let an administrator do it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::I say '''delete''' it. I mean, I'll wait to see if it comes up again, but I don't think that we really need this page.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::::'''Keep'''. It's significant enough for article in my mind since it's a central part of the short. I don't think we need to hold specific items like this to the same standard as generic items (i.e., pizza, ducks etc.) or running gags in terms of needing multiple appearances. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::::There are tons of items on [[Items]] that've only been seen once, anyway. Heck, [[Doreauxgard]]'s only been seen once, and look how we treat him. Definitely '''KEEP'''. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 21:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::'''Keep''', for above reasons. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if this fellow shows up again in another toon, if only as a cameo. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::I also say '''keep''' it. It's an important enough element of the toon to merit its own page. A rewrite might not be a bad idea though. Has anyone posted a clear, specific reason why it's even been nominated for deletion??? ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
:::::::::::::::::Say that to Phlip. He was the one who nominated it for deletion. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::::::::::::::::'''KEEP'''. I don't think I need to restate what has already been said. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:(Re-Indenting) '''Keep''' again! I say keep again! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:: '''Wait'''. I think it might make another appearance. Maybe. We should get some votes before we take action. --[[User:Collin Diver|Collin Diver]] 23:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::: '''Note:''' I added the {{tl|tbd}} template because it's the sort of borderline-notable topic that deserves a "should we keep this" discussion... I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, I just put the template there so that the discussion would happen... note that the template says "is being considered for deletion" – which is exactly what this discussion is doing. I didn't start the discussion when I put the template up, because it was late at night, I was tired, and wasn't really capable of forming coherent arguments... so I went to bed in the knowledge that when I came back the discussion would have started without me. That the consensus seems to be "keep it" is fine by me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::::No please! I have no idea whats going on but I read the first and second to last comment! Dont kill off the Drive-thru Whale page! He's my favorite! I learned some good crap about him when I read this page! Please dont delete it! Okay... I'm done.... ^-^ [[User:65.34.72.52|65.34.72.52]] 23:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== Character? ==

Should the drive-thru whale be considered a character? Specifically, do we think that the source of the voice is (a) the whale itself, (b) someone inside the whale, or (c) someone somewhere else whose voice comes through the loudspeaker inside the whale. Relevant to this discussion are the following pieces of data:
#The whale speaks as if it is merely a loudspeaker.
#In one scene, the camera looks out from the inside of the whale's mouth.
#The whale eats the lobster.
#The whale launches itself into [[Outer Space]].
#1 seems to suggest conclusion (c), #2 and #4 seem to suggest conclusion (b), and #3 seems to suggest conclusion (a). I realize that any result we come up with is going to be speculation, but I think it's a necessary thing to discuss so that we know whether to classify it as a [[Characters|character]], an [[Unseen Characters|unseen character]], or an [[Items|item]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:This is tough, as it doesn't fit neatly into one category. I'd say "Character" is the best fit. It seems self-aware enough to interact with other characters, and clearly has its own wants and needs in life--specifically to cause dismemberment and eat a space lobster.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

::Yeah, I think I agree with you — in fact, I think that the joke might be that throughout the whole short, Strong Bad thought it was simply a drive-thru device, but after he left it turned out to be a creature (evidenced by the lobster-eating and space-launching). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::I believe it to be a pseudocharacter, only because (from [[Pseudocharacters]])...
:::<blockquote>Pseudocharacters are items in the Homestar Runner universe that at some time or another are treated (and in some cases behave) as real characters. They variously talk, move, and interact with the main characters and the audience. Most pseudocharacters are totally depicted as inanimate objects except for a handful of appearances.</blockquote>
:::Even The Paper, which could answer commands, get sick, etc. is called a pseudocharacter. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 20:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Mailbox ==

Does any one else see a slight connection between the drive-thru whale and [[The Mailbox]]? Both of them are alone in the middle of a feild, apparently far away from the buildings they should be close to.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 03:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's true. Maybe we should put a link to the Mailbox. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

== Sweetie Cakes! ==

After the mini-golf email, can we count this whale as a Sweet Cuppin Cakes character? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:I mean, can we add this article to a Sweet Cuppin' Cakes category? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

At least wait 'til the whale has another apparance along side Eh! Steve and the others. It could just be a one off after all. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 20:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

== Sketchbook vs. mini-golf ==

How is the [[:Image:Drive-Thru Putt Place.png|mini-golf image]] better than [[:Image:Sketchbook 3-22-2007.png|Sketchbook one]]? The mini-golf image is very similar to the one that's always been the page, making it redundant. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:That was my first reaction, too. Yet with the current image it shows that it's in the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes universe, as well as the Homestar Runner universe. Honestly, I thought it was fine before.. but I also think it's fine now. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::But isn't the Sketchbook image more important? I mean, it shows his evolution. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyone else? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

[[Blubb-o's Whale]] end of story. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Superb justifications! Anyways, agree. It's clearly Blubb-o's's mascot. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 17:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

::Or, is the whale's name actually [[Blubb-o]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::You guys know that TBC only did this to screw with us... they like to keep us HRWikians on our toes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Trey: Didn't the bag say "You guessed it... '''We''''re called Blubbo-o's!", referring to the fastfood place instead of its mascot? --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 18:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Of course, but who could Blubbo be other than a blubbery whale? On a somewhat related note, "Blubba" and "Baron von Blubba" are the names of two whales in ''[[Wikipedia:Bubble Bobble|Bubble Bobble]]'' — not saying it's a reference, just that it made me think of that great game. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Trey, those guys aren't whales... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::They's bubble dragons. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::No, click on the link, and search the page for "Blubba" — you'll see that they are indeed whales. I'm not talking about the heroes; I'm talking about two enemies. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::But, um, back to the back to the article. I think [[Blubb-o's Whale]] would be better, since despite that the whale's name would be Blubb-o's or whatever, he still IS the mascot for a restaurant called Blubb-o's. So, regardless of what his name is, it's still the Blubb-o's Whale. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 10:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree — to me, it's fairly evident that Blubb-o is the whale's name, so it's redundant to call him Blubbo's whale. It's like if a guy named Jerry owned a tire store called "Jerry's Tires", and everybody referred to him as "the Jerry's Tires owner" because they couldn't figure out his name. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Trey: Like many food mascots, the whale's name is most likely to be named in something similar to the restaurant (i.e. Ronald McDonald for McDonald's). He's name could be "Blubb-o Blub", "Bill Blubb-o" or anything else for that matter. The best way we can describe in this now, is [[Blubb-o's Whale]]. So, yes, I support the move. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe the DVD commentary for [[Drive-Thru]] would be helpful. For the sake of everyone, partial commentary beginning from when SB hits the drive-thru whale:

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, uh... This— This was really unsettling, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' The... drive-thru whale?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Wha— I— Was he from some type of a seafood restaurant or something?

'''MIKE:''' Uh... that serves whale?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Why would you—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Maybe. Maybe that'd be good. Blubber sandwiches.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Blubb-o's, maybe it'd be called. ''{pause}'' Um, but later on, doesn't this guy show up in Sweet Cuppin' Cakes land?

'''MIKE:''' He does.

:So, here's how I see it. Clearly the mascot came before the name of the restaurant, and it seems the name of the restaurant was decided based on the type of sandwiches that might be sold and not based on the mascot. So, until TBC come right out and tell us what this whale's name is, I opine that we <s>keep it at what Mike called it ([[Drive-Thru Whale]]) or</s> rename it [[Blubb-o's Whale]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps "Blubb-o The Whale? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I oppose renaming it. I would argue that "drive-thru whale" is what TBC use to describe it, and so should we. Renaming it [[Blubb-o's Whale]] is not an improvement in my opinion. Also, any guesses on its actual name (if any) should not be in the article and especially not in the title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Agree with '''no rename''', per Loafing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::'''I see no reason to change its name.''' Strong Bad refers to it as a "crackly drive-thru whale," in [[Drive-Thru]] Just because it appeared on a bag of food does not mean we should rename it. I really think that the Drive-Thru Whale is just the mascot or icon for Blubbo's.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 23:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I've already said that either keeping the name as-is ''or'' calling it [[Blubb-o's Whale]] would be fine. But, I've since decided that '''the name ought to be changed'''. Why? Because the whale is the mascot whether or not it is the drive-thru speaker. Consider its appearance on [[:Image:blubb-o's bag.png|the bag]] in [[nightlife]]. No pole coming out from beneath it, no speaker in its teeth. So, regarding importance, it's a mascot first, a drive-thru speaker second. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::'''I agree'''. "Drive-Thru Whale" is no longer a satisfactory name for what this is, as it has been clearly used as something more than just a drive-thru device.-[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Drive-Thru Whale

StarLion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:08:08 GMT

StarLion: /* Rename */

Cinnamon

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:31:20 GMT

StarLion: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Homestar's cinnamon beard.PNG|thumb|Lookin' good, Homestar]]
[[Homestar Runner]] occasionally wears '''[[Wikipedia:Cinnamon|cinnamon]]''' on his face to simulate early-morning stubble. Naturally, this popular spice has also appeared in actual foodstuffs.

==As a foodstuff==
*[[Homestar Quiz]] — One part of the recipe for "[[The Poopsmith]]s Super Deluxe [[Whatsit|You-Know-What]] Cookies" is 1 tsp. of "cinammon".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] — [[Strong Sad]] plans to make a cinnamon-apple crisp, but tell everyone it's a ginger-apple crumble.

==As body hair==
According to the [[caper#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] for the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[caper]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] used a "trick" for making stubble in their old movies: they would get cinnamon and put it on their faces.

===Appearances===
*'''Debut:''' Email [[caper]] — Homestar Runner walks onto [[The Field]] in his night clothes apparently with five-o'clock shadow. Homestar comments that "it's cinnamon."
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — Homestar Runner wakes up with five-o'clock shadow cinnamon on his face.
*Email [[secret identity]] — Homestar Runner walks out from behind [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Bubs' Motor Lodge]] wearing his cinnamon beard, a robe and gold shirt that reads "I &hearts; Toxic Waste", and his [[Homestar Runner's Sleepwear|bunny slippers]].
*[[Weclome Back]] — Homestar Runner wakes up from a long nap with cinnamon on his face.
*Email [[slumber party]] — In an Easter egg, Homestar dances with cinnamon on his face.
*Late night [[Store Thank You Messages#Late Night Thank You|Store Thank You Message]] — Homestar has cinnamon on his face.
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — Homestar has cinnamon on his chest
*Email [[nightlife]] — Homestar has cinnamon on his face while sleepwalking.

[[Category:Generic food and drinks]][[Category:Object running gags]]

Talk:The Cheat

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:40:40 GMT

StarLion: /* The Cheat Reference? */

{{featuredarticle}}
== Rewriting ==

This could use a little rewriting. Too conversational, and needs a mention that The Cheat's Flash animations are TBC's way of making fun of their earlier style. Should I take a crack at it? [[User:spblat|spblat]] 11:40, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

== The Cheat Smokes ==
Why was this taken off?
-Your Fuzzy God

:I suppose because it's not very interesting, and it only occurs in one toon and one game. If we listed every single odd thing that The Cheat happened to do twice on his character page, it would be a mess. Noting it on the pages for those toons is enough. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

I think his smoking is notable for his character page. 3 mentions now -[[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 00:40, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

In [[montage|montage]] you actually see him smoke. 4 mentions.
-Doreauxgard507

In "Where's the Cheat" you see that he was cheating on his New Year's resolution. A pack of Cigarettes were in there.But ya can't blame him, ya know...Cause he's the Cheat.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I believe there's also a page about this. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 20:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==
What's wrong with the screenshot on ths page? The link seems valid, but the picture's not showing up... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this isn't the kind of thing you put on the talk. --- [[User:The Coachsmith]]
:Actually, it's ''exactly'' the kind of thing you put on talk, i.e. talk that directly relates to the upkeep of the wiki. Note, however, that Upsilon wrote that 4 days short of a full year ago (and hasn't been here since July). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

::I'd imagine Upsilon was having a cache problem, but there's no way to know for sure at this point. All I know is that was right around the time we were uploading all our hotlinked images and thumbnailing them. [[User:spblat]], who was working on the uploading project, made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=12610 the edit] to change the hotlinked image to a thumbnail shortly before [[User:Upsilon]] added his note here, so I'm guessing that was to blame.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== BIG DESTROY THING ==
Right... I think I'm going to do a big, fat re-write of this thing. There are alot of bugs, mistakes, and general badness. Sorry, whoever wrote this, but the article is pretty shoddy. I mean, there's some good stuff, but most of it is not really... You know. Properly put together.

Unfortunately, the article wasn't ''originally'' written that well, so people tweaked it to make it better, but there's only so much you can tweak before the thing just needs a re-write.

== Hidden video cameras? Pah. ==

"The Cheat has hooked his computer to a hidden video camera in the Computer Room, as seen in huttah!"

That's not how I interpreted that scene. Judging by Strong Bad's reaction, The Cheat was simply watching the email online just like the rest of us (of course, being a fictional character in the same world as Strong Bad he gets to watch it in real time).

:I completely agree and I've changed the article to reflect this. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:06, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

Another thing to note: The Cheat's handle.. 'cheatachu'
*If The Cheat was watching the email, he would have seen himself on screen, watching himself watch an email of himself watching the email. Get it? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You're thinking waaaaaaaaay to hard. How can SB type with boxing gloves? How can Homestar pick things up? It's the same thing.

And how can Marzipan pick things up?--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Look. In the hr universe, strong bad has his own webcam show, and the cheat was watching it. [[User:Lopolo42|Lopolo42]]

== Drum Solo ==

Based on [[Cool Things]] should we add that The Cheat plays the drums?

:Check out the current first sentence of the third paragraph. It's already there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:48, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Birthyear 1983? ==

In the email [[autobiography]] and on one of the patches, it has the same The Cheat logo stating "since 1983." That could easily mean that The Cheat was born somewheres in 1983. But since it's not concrete evidence or anything I'd suggest putting something like "The Cheat's birthday was presumably in 1983," or something to that effect. [[User:64.230.22.54|64.230.22.54]] 01:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

He was making fun of PBS. just that. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I really wouldn't dismiss it just like that.
nicko9y

== The Cheat Speak? ==

Are we trying to interpret cheat speak or not? I've seen some articles that to and some that don't. I think a decision has been made, but I don't remember it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

== Firefox Rendering Error ==

[[Image:Cheat Firefox Error.jpg|thumb|Whoops!]]
Anyone know what might be causing this? Firefox renders the '''<nowiki>[edit]</nowiki>''' link for The Cheat's Biography section on top of the text for that section, whereas the edit link renders correctly for all other sections. This link also renders correctly in IE. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:I can't tell you in technical terms what's ''causing'' it, but it appears to have to do with the way text breaks around pictures. I can also tell you that this is just one example of a phenomenon that happens on scores of pages (of course now that I try I can't come up with any). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Is this just something we gotta live with, then? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Clever use of <code><nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki></code> is what is needed here {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Sadly, it has to do with the way IE and Firefox interpret the same code -- there are things they treat differently, giving all of this weird behavior :( --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== What is the Cheat? ==

Is The Cheat a pet owned by The Brothers Strong or is he some kind of yellow midget (sorry, lil person) who hangs around them? Or is this so wildly inconsistent that it'll never be agreed upon? Just trying to clarify this. BEGIN DISCUSSION! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 04:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think most of his relations to Strong Bad are explained in [[lackey]]. Yes, sure he hangs around with Strong Bad, but when the time comes he does his biddings. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::''{Edit conflict}'' I think that's answered pretty well by taking [[lackey]], [[privileges]], and [[bedtime story]] into simultaneous consideration. Go ahead. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also remember that The Cheat does not officially live with The Brothers Strong; he lives in The King of Town's grill for some reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Weren't you guys paying attention to Strong Mad and Homestar in [[do over]]? The Cheat is cow! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I understand his living situation. What I meant was what is he in the physical sense; Yellow dog (as in [[army]]) or furry little man (as in [[cheat talk]])? -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 16:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::He's a The Cheat. Not much more you can say about it. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Look, analyzing The Cheat didn't work for Strong Bad, and it's not gonna work for you either! ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:08, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Mayhaps you have a point KieferSkunk. Later on, forthwith, trimpantly/abundantly TBC will provide us with more backstory over which to ponder, hopefully. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
PS. Sorry Strong Bad finally nabbed you in [[portrait|email #139]].
:Hehe, that's okay. I gave him $7.50, and he gave me privelages. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:PS: You did get what I was referencing above, right?
::You were referring to [[big white face|this email]], right? OR did you mean [[privileges]]? This post or last post? I got them both anyway. I think. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
:::Actually, I was referring to [[for kids|this one]], and to the message in [[Peasant's Quest]] when you try to make friends with the Kerrek. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh oh oh...I thought this weeks e-mail was called Teddy Graham Memories. I thought you were talking about the physical drawing of The Cheat being a mystery in "big white face". But now I see the refernce to the Kerrek and for kids. Very amusing! ha ha ha. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 17:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
The Cheat is Strong Bad's "very own a-The Cheat!" ([[flashback]]) {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think of him as Strong Bad's teenage son kinda. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:53, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
::If that's true, who's The Cheat's mother? Marzipan? One of Pom-Pom's Girls? Katie 80? Bubs? I've always kind of viewed The Cheat as an intelligent pet, abliet one who screws up capers a lot. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 01:55, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I was thinking more of "unnoficial father." Just like a guy who is close enough to him that he's his son, but not legally his father. Kinda like... the cheats adopted. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Adopt a Cheat! Take one home today! Great Jenga player, enjoys sudsuu (you'll have to ask it for the recipie), makes great plans. Warning: Often screws up great plans, stinks when wet, may steal underwear, DO NOT ask it to rig fireworks. Comes with free Van Buren Bust. Available for two easy payments of $19.95 and one difficult payment of $14.95. Call 1-800-555-CHEKT and order yours today!!! We're kind of straying from my original question anyway, but that struck me as kind of funny. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 02:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
*Sleepy Time The Cheat comes with everyting you see here. The Cheat sold separately. - {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I want one!! 
Anyway, I see him like this: if your dog was intelligent and you understood gis barks and he understood your speech, and was loyal, and yellow and spotted and...... un-dog-shaped, you'd have a The Cheat. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to agree with both Salty and Has Matt. The Cheat is some kind of super intelligent, accident prone pet and I want one too! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::A pet whose head occasionally explodes. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::: And that lives in a different house. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== A cat, not a dog ==

Has anyone ever noticed that the Cheat sort of looks like a cheetah?

:Just the spots. I've always thought of him more of a flat headed Pikachu. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. He's yellow with spots. His body couldn't be less like a cheetah. But still, I think there might have been some connection in the early days. But unless it's been mentioned before by a toon or a Chap, there's nothing for the article. So, I guess I'll go watch [[replacement]] yet again.

He was once The Sneak.Back then he was a freakin' mole-lookin' thing chasing around Marzipan. It's in "Ballad of the Sneak".--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree he is some what like a cheatah (barely)--[[User:The-double-deuce|The-double-deuce]] 00:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

No way man. The Cheat looks more like pikachu COMBINED with a cheatah.--[[User:Daniel|Daniel]] 16:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure he's not a cow?

Maybe it's just me, but is the fact that he's furry, yellow, has spots and name sounds like 'cheetah' a bit suspicious? o_O [[User:Enigma|Enigma]] 13:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== blinking ==

did anyone else notice that the cheat wil blink twice the first, then blink once?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 13:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Some dings dis articles says no makeses di senses! ==

:''The Cheat (whose name is "The Cheat", with an integral article).''

Uh, should there be something after that? We should've kept the part that says he's "quite one of a kind." That isn't fanwanks, [[Visor Robot|dis be]]! It'd be worth it to keep something redundant on the page. Better redundant than retarded. (Sorry, I'm in a weird mood.) {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Yeah, something needs to change there: it's a sentence fragment as it is. But I don't think putting back that thing about "the only one of his kind" is the right solution. Lemme see if I can think of something else (possibly just combining a couple sentences). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Mmm.... stir fry veggie-- what? Oh, yeah, that's pretty much an incomplete sentence. "The Cheat (something about integral article) ___________" and fill the blank with something about The Cheat. I'ma go eat some stir fry.. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Was he ever referred to as "one of a kind" in an old characters page...? It sounds vaguely familiar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::In [[flashback]] Strong Bad says, my very own The Cheat, infrencing that there are more or that he has heard of the cheat race before. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fluffy Image ==

Should there be an image of The Cheat fluffed-out from the drier on this page? It doesn't necessarily contribute anything, but it is gosh-darned cute. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 09:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
: True, but we already have useless pictures on other pages, andi do not want all of the pages to be spammed with useless pictures that have at least 1 thing that is related to it (even though he is cute that way). --Sbmaniac--

== Pouch type Cheat ==

Anyone besides me think The Cheat has a pouch? It would be cool! I mean, like if SB was out of Cold Ones and the cheat stole them from Bubs, he could put them in his pouch, and tell bubs he hasn't seen anything, while it's hiding in his pouch! - Alex H.

:No, I doubt The <s>Chort</s> Cheat has a pouch. Is there any toon that might support this fact, though? (It would be pretty awesome) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My freind said that a toon that was taken from the sight might have proved it. Since the only removed toon with The <s>Chekt</s> <s>Ceat</s> Cheat in it was [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], we can see if that's true. -Alex H.

== Best Character?? ==

I've read a lot of userpages that say The Cheat is the user's favorite character. ([[User:SamFisher1022|Mine]] is one of them...) Is it just me, or could The Cheat be the site's most popular character? {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:02, 7 September 2006
:Edit Conflict! Argh! SB is the most popular character, SamFisher. You know better. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::I do, actually. SBEmails are definitely the most popular feature on the site. (I was really expecting you to reply like that, I saw your userpage too.) But SB is seldom mentioned on the userpages I've read, and I've read a lot. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:15, 7 September 2006
:::Yeah, alright. Maybe it's possible that The Cheat is just more popular around here? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::::You're probably right. We might like The Cheat, but that doesn't mean SB is nothing. The site would probably be pretty boring without his emails. That'd be a freakin' nightmare. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:44 7 September 2006

==The Cheat Baxter-Birney==
Surely this was just a throw away joke about a sitcom/soap actor called Meredith Baxter-Birney, not an indication of his surname? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Definitely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If that's true, should we leave it in the article? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::OK, This has been driving me crazy ever since it was added. . .I'm removing it --[[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Pokémon design? ==

According to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|Pikachu]] article, "The character [[The Cheat (Homestar Runner)|The Cheat]] from [[Homestar Runner]] is also sometimes considered to be a Pikachu parody, although he was created before ''Pokémon'' was imported to America. [[The Brothers Chaps]] modified his design to give him more resemblance to a Pikachu after the Pokémon anime made its debut". It is followed by a small "citation needed" notice. I travelled long and hard until I arrived at the HRWiki, knowing that they would provide the necessary citation. After searching both the [[The Cheat]] and [[The Cheat Evolution]] articles, I could find nothing of the sort. Is there anything here that can prove this fact? --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 17:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think there's any proof to be find that they modified him simply to look more like a Pokémon. However, we do know that he's been compared to Pikachu a lot on the website. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Cheat talking or humming? ==

[[Image:weirdedoutthecheat.PNG|thumb|the only time I've seen it open]]
Has anyone ever actualy seen The Cheat talk with his mouth open? I think that he hums regularly and talks with his mouth open for powered by the cheat. Any comments on this subject. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 05:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Iiiit's possible!

-Alex H.

==Face==
What's with the cheat's eyes? They seem to be on different sides of his facebone.
:They're not unlike [[Homestar Runner#Homestar's Eyes|Homestar's]]. Or Mickey Mouse's ears. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Flash Effect? ==

The Cheat is always using an effect that makes something turn into something else. (like the skull in Summer Short Shorts) How do you do this?
:It's shape tweening. It makes a cartoon look shoddy if it's done the way The Cheat does it. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Yep, they're [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000629.html#wp71610 shape tweens]. They can look ok if you [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000630.html#71644 take the time to tweak them], but in their default state between two random shapes, they tend to end up looking like the garbled mess you see in the PBtC cartoons. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Cheatware ==

<blockquote> He also has some knowledge of coding, as he wrote a program for Strong Bad to help him get past the office's firewalls.</blockquote>

I removed this sentence from the Biography, because I don't think there is any evidence that the Cheat actually authored the program. Rather, that he simply redistributed it on a floppy disk to Strongbad. The program appears to be the work of [[Edgar]]. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 01:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

=="Cheat, The...Or The, Cheat?"==

I'm wondering if "The" is actually a surname, while "Cheat" may be his given name. The surname followed by given name structure is common in many parts of the world, an example being the basketball player Yao Ming. "Yao" is the family name, and that is why it appears on the back of his jersey! The facts are that "The Cheat" is always captalized, no matter where it appears in a written sentence. Also, very rarely is he referred to as anything other than "The Cheat", even when the determiner "The" would be gramatically incorrect. He refers to himself as "The Cheat" in his character video, and most importantly, when Marzipan returns from her date with The Cheat in DATE NIGHT, Homestar asks her if her name is "The Marzipan" now.

Is there some way we can confirm this? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 16:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:Interesting, but I think it's just that we always refer to him with the integral article (or whatever those things are called). Now, we know all about the first name surname dealie (see [[The Brothers Strong]]), but I doubt that "The" is a surname. Just a part of his name in general. Like, in Spanish, it's considered correct to write "El Señor Martinez" (The Mr. Martinez) when referring to someone in the thirs person, formally. And his name is, in reality, just Señor Martinez. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, the fact that "The Cheat" may just be his name crossed my mind, but it was more Homestar's comment about "The Marzipan" that made me start wondering. Of course, Homestar is an idiot, but why else would he choose that particular name to call her? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 05:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It's possible that Homestar is just stupid, but "The" may be an honorific like Doc. or Mr. or Prof. However, in Flashback he is called "A" The Cheat, suggesting that all The Cheat are called this, so it may be a family surname, but who's family would have the same first name for everybody? Also, he's ALMOST never reffered to as just Cheat, so my theory of "the" being an honorific might be correct, since people are sometimes called by their last names. Kinda long but that's what I think-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 21:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

== Talking ==

I've heard The Cheat talk on two occasions, in conversation. The first time was in [[cheat talk]] where he said "Doug." The scond was in [[The Cheat Theme Song]], where he asked SB "How was that?" Shouldn't this be noted?--[[User:Randomnerd10|Randomnerd10]] 17:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:No. As a rule, we don't put words into The Cheat's mouth. See the [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::Speaking about talking, i've noticed in the [[The_Cheat|article]] that he speaks English in the [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons (for the background characters). I really believe it is the work of his [[Tangerine Dreams|Tangerine Dreams (iTandy)]] that does the english speaking, a possible The Cheat to English converter with sound changer. any theories? {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 00:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::That's pure speculation. Since we have nothing to actually back this up, we wouldn't put it on the wiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Naturally, I meant this as a conversation piece [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] and ***WILL NOT, and SHOULD NOT*** be put on [[The Cheat]]'s article, just in [[Talk:The Cheat|Discussion]]. {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 00:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Okies. These talk pages are for discussing article content only, though. Conversation pieces like this one should go on the forum instead. Keep on tranglin'{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Article content where my conversation piece is comming from. ''However, he does all the voices for his Flash cartoon, and can apparently talk in completely understandable English; why he never does so in conversation is a mystery.'' . {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 01:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, yes, there's no dout that you said this in reaction to the article. However, "a possible The Cheat to English converter with sound changer" is wild speculation and is nowhere hinted at in any toon. That means it has really nothing to do with the article which correctly states that we don't know what's going on.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::This "speculation" may have better conversation in the Fourms then... {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 01:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Cute The Cheat Forms ==

:''The following discussion was moved here from [[Talk:Cute The Cheat Forms]] after it was decided to merge the content of that article with this one.''
<blockquote>
=== I'm fairly sure this is should be deleted ===

This article is not at all important, doesn't count as a running joke, is incredibly short, and is generally badly made. I say we '''delete''' it.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 12:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:While the quality could be improved with time (it was only just made a few minutes ago), I agree that it doesn't merit its own article yet (a running gag needs [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|3 appearances]]). On the other hand, I do think it's a legitimate connection, since in both cases Strong Bad uses his The Cheat to try and impress the ladies. So, I think it's worth mentioning somewhere, but not on its own page. I say, '''merge with [[The Cheat]]'''. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::Total agree. I thought this was already mentioned on The Cheat's page, but apparently it's not. '''Merge w/ [[The Cheat|Teh C.]]''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Hrm.... good point. I suppose I'll '''Change vote from delete to merge.''' Yeah.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 13:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::'''Merge.''' {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::'''Merge.''' {{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
hay, wait! remember that email wher the cheat was getting tons of emails, and strong bad was like, "c'mon, he isn't even that cute..." could that be added?

:You're thinking of [[huttah!]]. Nevertheless, that ladies are attracted to The Cheat is more of a characteristic of him than a running gag, in my opinion. I still think that this info would fit better on his main article. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

{sigh} you win...Merge.

:But The Cheat is always cute! Just add a relevant sentence or two on "The Cheat" (IE '''Merge''') and delete it. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

=== i think not ===

i...don't think this is talked about in "The Cheat"

:Not yet — it should be, though! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I made this article! could someone please go double check? oh, and my user name is ''haldo''

pictures could be added?

:Okay, I cleaned it up a little — if you want, feel free to look to see how I included an image as well as linked to different articles... Welcome to the wiki! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

</blockquote>

== Email? ==
I was just wondering: Strong bad has an email, Strond Sad had an email, the KoT shouldn't have an email (and it's good he doesn't), but shouldnt The Cheat have an email? Ya know?
:Let's just see what the future [[Strong bad Email|sbemails]] bring us. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

==Sat on by Pom Pom==
Why would The Cheat be worried about "[[The Cheat#Character Video Transcript|being sat on by ... Pom Pom]]"? Pom Pom only weighs [[Pom Pom#Driver's license|4 lbs]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==The Cheat Reference?==
Yaknow, it may be unrelated, but i cant help noticing that The Cheat's coloration is remarkably similar to [http://www.theparkingspot.com/ | The Parking Spot]. The Parking Spot is one of those airport car-storage lots, and does operate at Atlanta's Hartsfield Jackson Airport. (I've driven past it enough times and nearly been run over by more than one of their shuttle buses to remember :P) -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:It even has it's own integral article! -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Cheat

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:35:40 GMT

StarLion:

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== Rewriting ==

This could use a little rewriting. Too conversational, and needs a mention that The Cheat's Flash animations are TBC's way of making fun of their earlier style. Should I take a crack at it? [[User:spblat|spblat]] 11:40, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

== The Cheat Smokes ==
Why was this taken off?
-Your Fuzzy God

:I suppose because it's not very interesting, and it only occurs in one toon and one game. If we listed every single odd thing that The Cheat happened to do twice on his character page, it would be a mess. Noting it on the pages for those toons is enough. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

I think his smoking is notable for his character page. 3 mentions now -[[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 00:40, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

In [[montage|montage]] you actually see him smoke. 4 mentions.
-Doreauxgard507

In "Where's the Cheat" you see that he was cheating on his New Year's resolution. A pack of Cigarettes were in there.But ya can't blame him, ya know...Cause he's the Cheat.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I believe there's also a page about this. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 20:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==
What's wrong with the screenshot on ths page? The link seems valid, but the picture's not showing up... --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

this isn't the kind of thing you put on the talk. --- [[User:The Coachsmith]]
:Actually, it's ''exactly'' the kind of thing you put on talk, i.e. talk that directly relates to the upkeep of the wiki. Note, however, that Upsilon wrote that 4 days short of a full year ago (and hasn't been here since July). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

::I'd imagine Upsilon was having a cache problem, but there's no way to know for sure at this point. All I know is that was right around the time we were uploading all our hotlinked images and thumbnailing them. [[User:spblat]], who was working on the uploading project, made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=12610 the edit] to change the hotlinked image to a thumbnail shortly before [[User:Upsilon]] added his note here, so I'm guessing that was to blame.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== BIG DESTROY THING ==
Right... I think I'm going to do a big, fat re-write of this thing. There are alot of bugs, mistakes, and general badness. Sorry, whoever wrote this, but the article is pretty shoddy. I mean, there's some good stuff, but most of it is not really... You know. Properly put together.

Unfortunately, the article wasn't ''originally'' written that well, so people tweaked it to make it better, but there's only so much you can tweak before the thing just needs a re-write.

== Hidden video cameras? Pah. ==

"The Cheat has hooked his computer to a hidden video camera in the Computer Room, as seen in huttah!"

That's not how I interpreted that scene. Judging by Strong Bad's reaction, The Cheat was simply watching the email online just like the rest of us (of course, being a fictional character in the same world as Strong Bad he gets to watch it in real time).

:I completely agree and I've changed the article to reflect this. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:06, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

Another thing to note: The Cheat's handle.. 'cheatachu'
*If The Cheat was watching the email, he would have seen himself on screen, watching himself watch an email of himself watching the email. Get it? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You're thinking waaaaaaaaay to hard. How can SB type with boxing gloves? How can Homestar pick things up? It's the same thing.

And how can Marzipan pick things up?--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Look. In the hr universe, strong bad has his own webcam show, and the cheat was watching it. [[User:Lopolo42|Lopolo42]]

== Drum Solo ==

Based on [[Cool Things]] should we add that The Cheat plays the drums?

:Check out the current first sentence of the third paragraph. It's already there.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:48, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Birthyear 1983? ==

In the email [[autobiography]] and on one of the patches, it has the same The Cheat logo stating "since 1983." That could easily mean that The Cheat was born somewheres in 1983. But since it's not concrete evidence or anything I'd suggest putting something like "The Cheat's birthday was presumably in 1983," or something to that effect. [[User:64.230.22.54|64.230.22.54]] 01:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

He was making fun of PBS. just that. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I really wouldn't dismiss it just like that.
nicko9y

== The Cheat Speak? ==

Are we trying to interpret cheat speak or not? I've seen some articles that to and some that don't. I think a decision has been made, but I don't remember it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:50, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

== Firefox Rendering Error ==

[[Image:Cheat Firefox Error.jpg|thumb|Whoops!]]
Anyone know what might be causing this? Firefox renders the '''<nowiki>[edit]</nowiki>''' link for The Cheat's Biography section on top of the text for that section, whereas the edit link renders correctly for all other sections. This link also renders correctly in IE. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:I can't tell you in technical terms what's ''causing'' it, but it appears to have to do with the way text breaks around pictures. I can also tell you that this is just one example of a phenomenon that happens on scores of pages (of course now that I try I can't come up with any). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Is this just something we gotta live with, then? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Clever use of <code><nowiki>{{clear}}</nowiki></code> is what is needed here {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Sadly, it has to do with the way IE and Firefox interpret the same code -- there are things they treat differently, giving all of this weird behavior :( --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== What is the Cheat? ==

Is The Cheat a pet owned by The Brothers Strong or is he some kind of yellow midget (sorry, lil person) who hangs around them? Or is this so wildly inconsistent that it'll never be agreed upon? Just trying to clarify this. BEGIN DISCUSSION! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 04:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think most of his relations to Strong Bad are explained in [[lackey]]. Yes, sure he hangs around with Strong Bad, but when the time comes he does his biddings. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::''{Edit conflict}'' I think that's answered pretty well by taking [[lackey]], [[privileges]], and [[bedtime story]] into simultaneous consideration. Go ahead. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also remember that The Cheat does not officially live with The Brothers Strong; he lives in The King of Town's grill for some reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Weren't you guys paying attention to Strong Mad and Homestar in [[do over]]? The Cheat is cow! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I understand his living situation. What I meant was what is he in the physical sense; Yellow dog (as in [[army]]) or furry little man (as in [[cheat talk]])? -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 16:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::He's a The Cheat. Not much more you can say about it. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Look, analyzing The Cheat didn't work for Strong Bad, and it's not gonna work for you either! ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:08, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Mayhaps you have a point KieferSkunk. Later on, forthwith, trimpantly/abundantly TBC will provide us with more backstory over which to ponder, hopefully. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
PS. Sorry Strong Bad finally nabbed you in [[portrait|email #139]].
:Hehe, that's okay. I gave him $7.50, and he gave me privelages. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:PS: You did get what I was referencing above, right?
::You were referring to [[big white face|this email]], right? OR did you mean [[privileges]]? This post or last post? I got them both anyway. I think. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC) 
:::Actually, I was referring to [[for kids|this one]], and to the message in [[Peasant's Quest]] when you try to make friends with the Kerrek. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh oh oh...I thought this weeks e-mail was called Teddy Graham Memories. I thought you were talking about the physical drawing of The Cheat being a mystery in "big white face". But now I see the refernce to the Kerrek and for kids. Very amusing! ha ha ha. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 17:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
The Cheat is Strong Bad's "very own a-The Cheat!" ([[flashback]]) {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think of him as Strong Bad's teenage son kinda. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:53, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
::If that's true, who's The Cheat's mother? Marzipan? One of Pom-Pom's Girls? Katie 80? Bubs? I've always kind of viewed The Cheat as an intelligent pet, abliet one who screws up capers a lot. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 01:55, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I was thinking more of "unnoficial father." Just like a guy who is close enough to him that he's his son, but not legally his father. Kinda like... the cheats adopted. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Adopt a Cheat! Take one home today! Great Jenga player, enjoys sudsuu (you'll have to ask it for the recipie), makes great plans. Warning: Often screws up great plans, stinks when wet, may steal underwear, DO NOT ask it to rig fireworks. Comes with free Van Buren Bust. Available for two easy payments of $19.95 and one difficult payment of $14.95. Call 1-800-555-CHEKT and order yours today!!! We're kind of straying from my original question anyway, but that struck me as kind of funny. -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 02:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
*Sleepy Time The Cheat comes with everyting you see here. The Cheat sold separately. - {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I want one!! 
Anyway, I see him like this: if your dog was intelligent and you understood gis barks and he understood your speech, and was loyal, and yellow and spotted and...... un-dog-shaped, you'd have a The Cheat. {{User:Salty/sig}} 05:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to agree with both Salty and Has Matt. The Cheat is some kind of super intelligent, accident prone pet and I want one too! -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::A pet whose head occasionally explodes. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::: And that lives in a different house. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== A cat, not a dog ==

Has anyone ever noticed that the Cheat sort of looks like a cheetah?

:Just the spots. I've always thought of him more of a flat headed Pikachu. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. He's yellow with spots. His body couldn't be less like a cheetah. But still, I think there might have been some connection in the early days. But unless it's been mentioned before by a toon or a Chap, there's nothing for the article. So, I guess I'll go watch [[replacement]] yet again.

He was once The Sneak.Back then he was a freakin' mole-lookin' thing chasing around Marzipan. It's in "Ballad of the Sneak".--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 20:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree he is some what like a cheatah (barely)--[[User:The-double-deuce|The-double-deuce]] 00:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

No way man. The Cheat looks more like pikachu COMBINED with a cheatah.--[[User:Daniel|Daniel]] 16:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure he's not a cow?

Maybe it's just me, but is the fact that he's furry, yellow, has spots and name sounds like 'cheetah' a bit suspicious? o_O [[User:Enigma|Enigma]] 13:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

== blinking ==

did anyone else notice that the cheat wil blink twice the first, then blink once?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 13:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Some dings dis articles says no makeses di senses! ==

:''The Cheat (whose name is "The Cheat", with an integral article).''

Uh, should there be something after that? We should've kept the part that says he's "quite one of a kind." That isn't fanwanks, [[Visor Robot|dis be]]! It'd be worth it to keep something redundant on the page. Better redundant than retarded. (Sorry, I'm in a weird mood.) {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Yeah, something needs to change there: it's a sentence fragment as it is. But I don't think putting back that thing about "the only one of his kind" is the right solution. Lemme see if I can think of something else (possibly just combining a couple sentences). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Mmm.... stir fry veggie-- what? Oh, yeah, that's pretty much an incomplete sentence. "The Cheat (something about integral article) ___________" and fill the blank with something about The Cheat. I'ma go eat some stir fry.. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Was he ever referred to as "one of a kind" in an old characters page...? It sounds vaguely familiar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::In [[flashback]] Strong Bad says, my very own The Cheat, infrencing that there are more or that he has heard of the cheat race before. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fluffy Image ==

Should there be an image of The Cheat fluffed-out from the drier on this page? It doesn't necessarily contribute anything, but it is gosh-darned cute. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 09:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
: True, but we already have useless pictures on other pages, andi do not want all of the pages to be spammed with useless pictures that have at least 1 thing that is related to it (even though he is cute that way). --Sbmaniac--

== Pouch type Cheat ==

Anyone besides me think The Cheat has a pouch? It would be cool! I mean, like if SB was out of Cold Ones and the cheat stole them from Bubs, he could put them in his pouch, and tell bubs he hasn't seen anything, while it's hiding in his pouch! - Alex H.

:No, I doubt The <s>Chort</s> Cheat has a pouch. Is there any toon that might support this fact, though? (It would be pretty awesome) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My freind said that a toon that was taken from the sight might have proved it. Since the only removed toon with The <s>Chekt</s> <s>Ceat</s> Cheat in it was [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], we can see if that's true. -Alex H.

== Best Character?? ==

I've read a lot of userpages that say The Cheat is the user's favorite character. ([[User:SamFisher1022|Mine]] is one of them...) Is it just me, or could The Cheat be the site's most popular character? {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:02, 7 September 2006
:Edit Conflict! Argh! SB is the most popular character, SamFisher. You know better. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::I do, actually. SBEmails are definitely the most popular feature on the site. (I was really expecting you to reply like that, I saw your userpage too.) But SB is seldom mentioned on the userpages I've read, and I've read a lot. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:15, 7 September 2006
:::Yeah, alright. Maybe it's possible that The Cheat is just more popular around here? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 23:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::::You're probably right. We might like The Cheat, but that doesn't mean SB is nothing. The site would probably be pretty boring without his emails. That'd be a freakin' nightmare. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:44 7 September 2006

==The Cheat Baxter-Birney==
Surely this was just a throw away joke about a sitcom/soap actor called Meredith Baxter-Birney, not an indication of his surname? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Definitely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If that's true, should we leave it in the article? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::OK, This has been driving me crazy ever since it was added. . .I'm removing it --[[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Pokémon design? ==

According to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|Pikachu]] article, "The character [[The Cheat (Homestar Runner)|The Cheat]] from [[Homestar Runner]] is also sometimes considered to be a Pikachu parody, although he was created before ''Pokémon'' was imported to America. [[The Brothers Chaps]] modified his design to give him more resemblance to a Pikachu after the Pokémon anime made its debut". It is followed by a small "citation needed" notice. I travelled long and hard until I arrived at the HRWiki, knowing that they would provide the necessary citation. After searching both the [[The Cheat]] and [[The Cheat Evolution]] articles, I could find nothing of the sort. Is there anything here that can prove this fact? --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 17:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think there's any proof to be find that they modified him simply to look more like a Pokémon. However, we do know that he's been compared to Pikachu a lot on the website. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Cheat talking or humming? ==

[[Image:weirdedoutthecheat.PNG|thumb|the only time I've seen it open]]
Has anyone ever actualy seen The Cheat talk with his mouth open? I think that he hums regularly and talks with his mouth open for powered by the cheat. Any comments on this subject. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 05:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Iiiit's possible!

-Alex H.

==Face==
What's with the cheat's eyes? They seem to be on different sides of his facebone.
:They're not unlike [[Homestar Runner#Homestar's Eyes|Homestar's]]. Or Mickey Mouse's ears. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Flash Effect? ==

The Cheat is always using an effect that makes something turn into something else. (like the skull in Summer Short Shorts) How do you do this?
:It's shape tweening. It makes a cartoon look shoddy if it's done the way The Cheat does it. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Yep, they're [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000629.html#wp71610 shape tweens]. They can look ok if you [http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/00000630.html#71644 take the time to tweak them], but in their default state between two random shapes, they tend to end up looking like the garbled mess you see in the PBtC cartoons. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Cheatware ==

<blockquote> He also has some knowledge of coding, as he wrote a program for Strong Bad to help him get past the office's firewalls.</blockquote>

I removed this sentence from the Biography, because I don't think there is any evidence that the Cheat actually authored the program. Rather, that he simply redistributed it on a floppy disk to Strongbad. The program appears to be the work of [[Edgar]]. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 01:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

=="Cheat, The...Or The, Cheat?"==

I'm wondering if "The" is actually a surname, while "Cheat" may be his given name. The surname followed by given name structure is common in many parts of the world, an example being the basketball player Yao Ming. "Yao" is the family name, and that is why it appears on the back of his jersey! The facts are that "The Cheat" is always captalized, no matter where it appears in a written sentence. Also, very rarely is he referred to as anything other than "The Cheat", even when the determiner "The" would be gramatically incorrect. He refers to himself as "The Cheat" in his character video, and most importantly, when Marzipan returns from her date with The Cheat in DATE NIGHT, Homestar asks her if her name is "The Marzipan" now.

Is there some way we can confirm this? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 16:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:Interesting, but I think it's just that we always refer to him with the integral article (or whatever those things are called). Now, we know all about the first name surname dealie (see [[The Brothers Strong]]), but I doubt that "The" is a surname. Just a part of his name in general. Like, in Spanish, it's considered correct to write "El Señor Martinez" (The Mr. Martinez) when referring to someone in the thirs person, formally. And his name is, in reality, just Señor Martinez. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, the fact that "The Cheat" may just be his name crossed my mind, but it was more Homestar's comment about "The Marzipan" that made me start wondering. Of course, Homestar is an idiot, but why else would he choose that particular name to call her? [[User:Bowie60|Bowie60]] 05:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It's possible that Homestar is just stupid, but "The" may be an honorific like Doc. or Mr. or Prof. However, in Flashback he is called "A" The Cheat, suggesting that all The Cheat are called this, so it may be a family surname, but who's family would have the same first name for everybody? Also, he's ALMOST never reffered to as just Cheat, so my theory of "the" being an honorific might be correct, since people are sometimes called by their last names. Kinda long but that's what I think-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]] 21:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

== Talking ==

I've heard The Cheat talk on two occasions, in conversation. The first time was in [[cheat talk]] where he said "Doug." The scond was in [[The Cheat Theme Song]], where he asked SB "How was that?" Shouldn't this be noted?--[[User:Randomnerd10|Randomnerd10]] 17:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:No. As a rule, we don't put words into The Cheat's mouth. See the [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::Speaking about talking, i've noticed in the [[The_Cheat|article]] that he speaks English in the [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons (for the background characters). I really believe it is the work of his [[Tangerine Dreams|Tangerine Dreams (iTandy)]] that does the english speaking, a possible The Cheat to English converter with sound changer. any theories? {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 00:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::That's pure speculation. Since we have nothing to actually back this up, we wouldn't put it on the wiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Naturally, I meant this as a conversation piece [[User:Loafing|Loafing]] and ***WILL NOT, and SHOULD NOT*** be put on [[The Cheat]]'s article, just in [[Talk:The Cheat|Discussion]]. {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 00:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Okies. These talk pages are for discussing article content only, though. Conversation pieces like this one should go on the forum instead. Keep on tranglin'{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Article content where my conversation piece is comming from. ''However, he does all the voices for his Flash cartoon, and can apparently talk in completely understandable English; why he never does so in conversation is a mystery.'' . {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 01:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, yes, there's no dout that you said this in reaction to the article. However, "a possible The Cheat to English converter with sound changer" is wild speculation and is nowhere hinted at in any toon. That means it has really nothing to do with the article which correctly states that we don't know what's going on.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::This "speculation" may have better conversation in the Fourms then... {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 01:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Cute The Cheat Forms ==

:''The following discussion was moved here from [[Talk:Cute The Cheat Forms]] after it was decided to merge the content of that article with this one.''
<blockquote>
=== I'm fairly sure this is should be deleted ===

This article is not at all important, doesn't count as a running joke, is incredibly short, and is generally badly made. I say we '''delete''' it.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 12:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:While the quality could be improved with time (it was only just made a few minutes ago), I agree that it doesn't merit its own article yet (a running gag needs [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|3 appearances]]). On the other hand, I do think it's a legitimate connection, since in both cases Strong Bad uses his The Cheat to try and impress the ladies. So, I think it's worth mentioning somewhere, but not on its own page. I say, '''merge with [[The Cheat]]'''. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::Total agree. I thought this was already mentioned on The Cheat's page, but apparently it's not. '''Merge w/ [[The Cheat|Teh C.]]''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Hrm.... good point. I suppose I'll '''Change vote from delete to merge.''' Yeah.--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 13:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::'''Merge.''' {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::'''Merge.''' {{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
hay, wait! remember that email wher the cheat was getting tons of emails, and strong bad was like, "c'mon, he isn't even that cute..." could that be added?

:You're thinking of [[huttah!]]. Nevertheless, that ladies are attracted to The Cheat is more of a characteristic of him than a running gag, in my opinion. I still think that this info would fit better on his main article. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

{sigh} you win...Merge.

:But The Cheat is always cute! Just add a relevant sentence or two on "The Cheat" (IE '''Merge''') and delete it. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

=== i think not ===

i...don't think this is talked about in "The Cheat"

:Not yet — it should be, though! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I made this article! could someone please go double check? oh, and my user name is ''haldo''

pictures could be added?

:Okay, I cleaned it up a little — if you want, feel free to look to see how I included an image as well as linked to different articles... Welcome to the wiki! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Email? ==
I was just wondering: Strong bad has an email, Strond Sad had an email, the KoT shouldn't have an email (and it's good he doesn't), but shouldnt The Cheat have an email? Ya know?
:Let's just see what the future [[Strong bad Email|sbemails]] bring us. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

==Sat on by Pom Pom==
Why would The Cheat be worried about "[[The Cheat#Character Video Transcript|being sat on by ... Pom Pom]]"? Pom Pom only weighs [[Pom Pom#Driver's license|4 lbs]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==The Cheat Reference?==
Yaknow, it may be unrelated, but i cant help noticing that The Cheat's coloration is remarkably similar to [http://www.theparkingspot.com/|The Parking Spot]. The Parking Spot is one of those airport car-storage lots, and does operate at Atlanta's Hartsfield Jackson Airport. (I've driven past it enough times and nearly been run over by more than one of their shuttle buses to remember :P) -[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 17:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:14:30 GMT

StarLion: /* Fun Facts */

On September 25, 2004, [[They Might Be Giants]] performed at the Variety Playhouse in Atlanta, GA. They were joined on-stage by Puppet [[Homestar Runner]] and Puppet [[Marshie]]. They performed an original tune with Marshie, and then a unique rendition of The Beatles' "With a Little Help From My Friends". The complete audio of this show may be purchased at They Might Be Giants' official music store (see external links) and includes the above tracks plus two bonus sound checks featuring Homestar and Marshie.

== Transcript ==
Below are the transcripts of the segments of the show which include performances by Homestar Runner and Marshie.

''Note:'' Many of the lyrics are unintelligible, especially in the chorus to "With a Little Help".

=== Marshy's Song ===
'''FLANSBURGH:''' Ladies and gentlemen, a couple of months ago it was our privilege to, uh, to team up with the fine HomestarRunner.com corporation ''{audience cheers}'' based right out out of here in the fine state of Georgia, ladies and gentlemen. If you haven't seen the "Experimental Film" video that they put together at the, uh, HomestarRunner.com... place, we'd like to invite you to check it out. Um, we have some representatives from the HomestarRunner.com organization with us here tonight. Um, Mr. Linnell, will you, uh, introduce our first spokesmodel?

'''LINNELL:''' Um... what do we, how do we do this? Marty start the song, then... the whole place gets crazy?

'''FLANSBURGH:''' Uh, I think we should start, I think we should start with the spotlight on so we can cherish every moment of what we're about to experience.

'''LINNELL:''' Okay, well that would be a job for our lighting man... Ladies and gentlemen, our next guest is, uh, cylindrical. Okay, go ahead Marty. ''{Marty counts time with his drumsticks and the music begins.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Hey juys! ''{like "guys" but with a "j" sound}''

'''DEEP VOICE:''' Hey, Marshie, how ya doin?

'''MARSHIE:''' Pretty good!

''{singing}'' 
I'm feelin' like Milton Berle 
I'm lookin like vanilla swirl 
So come along and dance with me girl 
What's the matter, don't you have any legs?

''{spoken}'' Hey! How y'all feelin' out there? ''{the audience cheers}'' I'm a talkin' marshmallow!

I'm felling like Milton Berle ''{Flansburgh and Linnell sing back-up:}'' (Marshie! Marshie!) 
Don't call me a mushroom! (Marshie!) 
Everybody loves me! (Marshie!) 
The first one to eat a millions wins!

Get in the van! 
Get in the van! 
Get in the van, kids! 
Get in the van! 
We're giving away puppies! 
And ice cream! 
And ding-dogs! 
Hey! (Marshie!) 
Hey, that's me! (Marshie!) 
They're singing about me! (Marshie!) 
Get out of my dressing room! (Marshie!) 
I think I'm in looooooooooooooooove.

'''FLANSBURGH:''' ''{music ends}'' Marshie, ladies and gentlemen!

'''LINNELL:''' Please give a warm hand.

'''MARSHIE:''' Thanks, juys! I'm goin' this wayyy!

=== With a Little Help From My Friends ===
'''FLANSBURGH:''' Say goodbye to Marshie, but, but there's more, ladies and gentlemen. We've got a very special guest for you now, all the way from... HomestarRunner.com, our good, fine, special puppet friend, Homestar Runner.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aaaaaaaaaaaaa--

'''FLANSBURGH:''' How's it goin' homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' --aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. L-5-P represent.

'''FLANSBURGH:''' What it is?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You guys, I feel like I'm about to pee my pants.

'''FLANSBURGH:''' Well, we'd better start the song, then.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Alright!

'''FLANSBURGH:''' Here we go.

'''LINNELL:''' Save it for the show.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let's do it. Marty! ''{Marty counts time with his drumsticks and the music begins.}'' A lot of people-- I've heard a lot of talk. A lot of different types of talk from a lot of different types of people. They've been talkin' 'bout stuff that I don't wanna hear. These people've been talkin' bout... sports.

''{singing}'' 
What would you do if I took off my shoes 
And threw them out into the street? 
Would you lend me a pair 
Of your finest brown loafers? 
I promise not to have stinky feet! Oh!

(Try with a little help from my friends)

Oh, I'm always givin' high fives

(By with a little help from my friends)

We hang out at high five fives

(By with a little help from my friends)

I like to hang out with the fry guys

(By with a little help from my friends)

(Do you need anybody?)

Ohhh my goodness I can't believe I'm here tonight on the stage with They Might Be Giants! ''{unintelligible}'' Whoo!

(Do you need anybody?)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (Homestar!) ''{unintelligible}'' goodness 
This is ridiculous (Homestar!) 
I can't believe how ridiculous this is! (Yeah!) 
Flansy!

(By with a little help from my friends)

I can't believe it!

(Try with a little help from my friends)

All my friends in the place to be!

(Try with a little help from my friends)

''{Homestar joins in the chorus}'' High with a little help from my friiieeeennds!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got so many friends I can't believe how many friends I've got I got some friends, I got some serious friends. Oh! Oh.

'''FLANSBURGH:''' Homesar! [''sic'']

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, everybody! You've been great!

'''FLANSBURGH:''' Your hometown friend, Homesar! [''sic'']

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you guys.

'''LINNELL:''' That was crazy.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' It was nice to see you all.

'''LINNELL:''' High five.

'''FLANSBURGH:''' See you later, Homestar.

=== Soundcheck - Homestar and Friends ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'd like to bring it down during the soundcheck. I'd like to dedicate this one to all the foam fingers in the place tonight.

''{singing}'' 
What would you do 
If I started singin' out of tune? 
Would you stand up and walk out on me? I hope not. 
Lend me your ears and I'll try not to tickle 'em 
But that depends on how much hair you have in your ears. Oh!

(By with a little help from my friends)

Oh, I'm always gettin' by

(High with a little help from my friends)

We order lot of French fries

(By with a little help from my friends)

I like to hang out with the fry guys

(By with a little help from my friends)

(Do you need anybody?)

Ohhh! My goodness, They Might Be Giants, and later, represent, everybody!

(Do you need anybody?)

Ohhhhhhhhh my goodness, my goodness gracious 
Oh! My goodness gracious, everybody's in there!

(By with a little help from my friends)

Oh, I can't get by

(By with a little help from my friends)

You double-parked your car in front of mine

(By with a little help from my friends)

I'm just tryin to make some time

''{Homestar joins in the chorus}'' By with a little help from my friiieeeeeeennnnnnnnnds!

Seriously.

=== Soundcheck - Marshy Make-Up ===
'''FLANSBURGH:''' The rehearsal tape that we'll all cherish.

'''LINNELL:''' ''{in deep voice}'' Ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm hand... to Marshie.

'''MARSHIE:''' ''{singing}'' 
I'm feelin' like Milton Berle 
I'm lookin' like vanilla swirl 
C'mon and dance with me, girl! 
What's wrong with you? 
I know you're not a good dancer 
Neither am I 
I don't have legs 
I don't have legs! 

(Marshie!)

I'm not a mushroom!

(Marshie!)

Or some kind of puffy cloud

(Marshie!)

Get out of my dressing room!

(Marshie!)

I'm a clown! 
Hey! 
Where are you going with that thing? 
Don't you want to come back here 
With that thing? 
I thought I told you to reserve that thing for me! 
My name's all over it! 
Oh!

(Marshie!)

That's me! 
Oh, man, they're singing about me! (Marshie!) 
Hey, this is like the greatest day of my entire (Marshie!) short life!

(Marshie!)

I love you aallllllllll!

== Photos ==
<gallery>
Image:TMBG Marshie closeup 20040925.jpg|Marshie on stage
Image:TMBG Homestar closeup 20040925.jpg|Homestar Runner on stage
Image:TMBG Marshie 20040925.jpg|Wide shot of Marshie on stage with Dan Miller on guitar
Image:TMBG Homestar 20040925.jpg|Wide shot of Homestar Runner on stage
</gallery>

Photos used with permission from [http://www.livejournal.com/users/butwhatami/ Amanda] and [http://www.livejournal.com/users/geekqueen/ Becky].


== Fun Facts ==
*When Marshie says "Get out of my dressing room" in Marshie Make-Up, it may be a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]], in which there is a shot of Marshie in his dressing room.
*On the album art that is downloaded when you buy the MP3's, "Homestar" is spelled "Homestarr" and "Marshie" is spelled "Marshy." "Homestarr" is most likely a reference to [[The Beatles|Beatles]] drummer [[Wikipedia:Ringo Starr|Ringo Starr]], who originally sang "With a Little Help from My Friends".
*The song "Jazz in C", which was also performed at this concert, thanks members of the audience and a few of the show's guest stars. It gives special thanks to Homestar.
*"fry guys" is a reference to the McDonald's mascots The Fry Guys, later called [[Wikipedia:The Fry Kids|The Fry Kids]].
*When Homestar says "I'm about to pee my pants", it may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
*When Marshie says "First one to eat a million wins", it may be a reference to [[the show]].
*Marshie's mispronunciation of "guys" as "juys" may also be a reference to [[the show]] where he makes the same mistake.
*Homestar says 'L-5-P represent' L-5-P is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Little Five Points|Little Five Points]], an area of downtown Atlanta.

==See Also==
[[TMBG Concert - 3 May 2006]]

== External Links ==
*[[TMBW:Shows/2004-09-25|Show information at This Might Be A Wiki]]
*[http://www.theymightbegiants.com/mp3/atlanta.mp3 Sample from the Homestar and Friends soundcheck] (1.1MB MP3)
*[http://www.theymightbedownloads.com/do/showProductDetails?productId=98 Official online music store] where you can purchase this show
*[http://www.livejournal.com/community/homestar_runner/1160600.html More photos from the show by Amanda]
*[http://www.livejournal.com/users/geekqueen/79559.html More photos from the show by Becky]

[[Category:Interviews and Public Appearances]][[Category:Puppet Jam]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Marshie Filmography]]

Strong Sad's Room

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:58:35 GMT

StarLion: I honestly had no idea why i split my sentence there.

[[Image:sbemail6.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Inside the room of depressio]]
'''Strong Sad's room''' is where [[Strong Sad]] spends most of his time, when not getting pummeled by [[Strong Bad]]. This is where Strong Sad plays [[Where's The Cheat?|board games]] with [[Strong_Sad#Character_Video_Transcript|other board games]] and [[Homsar]] and [http://www.hasbro.com/jenga/ Jenga] with [[The Cheat]] on Tuesdays. He apparently prefers to segregate himself from the rest of the house as he has also been seen eating pot [[pie]] here, and he also uses his room to make arts and crafts. Strong Sad must also have his own computer to maintain his [[Strong Sad's Lament|blog]], check his email, and upload songs to his [[Strong Sad's iPod|iPod]], but this machine has yet to be revealed. Strong Sad is one of the few characters to have a telephone that actually has a cord in this room ([[Where's the Cheat?]]). In the email "depressio," his room has a standard doorway with a rectagular table, but the room has converted to having an arched doorway with a large round table.

==Decoration==
The walls are purple, and he has several [[Hanging_Objects#Strong_Sad.27s_Room|posters]]. One is for The Cure album "[[Wikipedia:Boys Don't Cry (album)|Boys Don't Cry]]" and has a silhouette of Robert Smith. Another is a poster for the movie "[[IMDb:tt0094006|Some Kind of Wonderful]]". A third is a purple poster of "[[Wikipedia:The Promise Ring|The Promise Ring]]" over his bed. He had another poster that was destroyed when Strong Bad crashed into the wall in [[gimmicks]].

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[depressio]]
*Email [[stand-up]]
*Email [[1 step ahead]]
*Email [[gimmicks]]
*Email [[your friends]]
*Email [[the show]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[personal favorites]] (seen through a hole in the wall)
*Email [[funny]]
*Email [[date]]
*Email [[no loafing]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[haircut]] (Easter egg)
*[[Where's The Cheat?]]
*[[Strong Sad# Character Video Transcript|Strong Sad's Character Page]]
*Email [[radio]]
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]
*Email [[car]]
*Email [[record book]]
*Email [[geddup noise]]
*[[Sick Day]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[narrator]]
*[[No Hands On Deck!]]
*Email [[cliffhangers]]
*Email [[the chair]]
*[[looking old]] (Easter egg)
*[[Date Nite]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[underlings]]
*[[DNA Evidence]]
[[Category:Individual Rooms]]

Strong Sad's Room

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:57:19 GMT

StarLion:

[[Image:sbemail6.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Inside the room of depressio]]
'''Strong Sad's room''' is where [[Strong Sad]] spends most of his time, when not getting pummeled by [[Strong Bad]]. This is where Strong Sad plays [[Where's The Cheat?|board games]] with [[Strong_Sad#Character_Video_Transcript|other board games]] and [[Homsar]] and [http://www.hasbro.com/jenga/ Jenga] with [[The Cheat]] on Tuesdays. He apparently prefers to segregate himself from the rest of the house as he has also been seen eating pot [[pie]] here, and he also uses his room to make arts and crafts. Strong Sad must also have his own computer to maintain his [[Strong Sad's Lament|blog]], check his email, and upload songs to his [[Strong Sad's iPod|iPod]], but this machine has yet to be revealed. Strong Sad is one of the few characters to have a telephone that actually has a cord ([[Where's the Cheat?]]) in his room. In the email "depressio," his room has a standard doorway with a rectagular table, but the room has converted to having an arched doorway with a large round table.

==Decoration==
The walls are purple, and he has several [[Hanging_Objects#Strong_Sad.27s_Room|posters]]. One is for The Cure album "[[Wikipedia:Boys Don't Cry (album)|Boys Don't Cry]]" and has a silhouette of Robert Smith. Another is a poster for the movie "[[IMDb:tt0094006|Some Kind of Wonderful]]". A third is a purple poster of "[[Wikipedia:The Promise Ring|The Promise Ring]]" over his bed. He had another poster that was destroyed when Strong Bad crashed into the wall in [[gimmicks]].

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[depressio]]
*Email [[stand-up]]
*Email [[1 step ahead]]
*Email [[gimmicks]]
*Email [[your friends]]
*Email [[the show]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[personal favorites]] (seen through a hole in the wall)
*Email [[funny]]
*Email [[date]]
*Email [[no loafing]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[haircut]] (Easter egg)
*[[Where's The Cheat?]]
*[[Strong Sad# Character Video Transcript|Strong Sad's Character Page]]
*Email [[radio]]
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]
*Email [[car]]
*Email [[record book]]
*Email [[geddup noise]]
*[[Sick Day]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[narrator]]
*[[No Hands On Deck!]]
*Email [[cliffhangers]]
*Email [[the chair]]
*[[looking old]] (Easter egg)
*[[Date Nite]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[underlings]]
*[[DNA Evidence]]
[[Category:Individual Rooms]]

Talk:Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:05:35 GMT

StarLion: /* Strong Bad's undies */

Talk:nightlife

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:25:01 GMT

StarLion: /* Strong Badia vs. Bubs' Concession Stand */ cleanup

Talk:nightlife

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:41:25 GMT

StarLion: /* Strong Badia vs. Bubs' Concession Stand */

Talk:nightlife

StarLion — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:38:27 GMT

StarLion: /* Pwawty Cloughb */