I was so happy that the John decided to work with homestar.
but i'm also so confused. I mean, really... but mostly i'm just so happy that TMBG has a new video out! It's amazing!!! ~Rinzii

AGH...''{drools}'' -- [[User:TMBGirl|TMBGirl]] 20:08, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Actual Band ==

TMBG is, has always been, and always will be just [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/John_Linnell John Linnell] and [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/John_Flansburgh John Flansburgh]. Look at the arguments [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Talk:Marty_Beller here]. That brings me around to a question: Shouldn't we change it? I'm not saying we should remove any mention of the "Band of Dans" as they are called, but they ought to be listed separately. Input requested. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:00, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:Put another way, TMBG has always been John Flansburgh and John Linnell and currently, TMBG records and tours with Marty Beller on drums, Dan Miller on guitar, and Danny Weinkauf on bass. [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/They_Might_Be_Giants] I'm sure the wording on our article could use a change, but remember that in the context of TMBG's work with [[The Brothers Chaps]], it's always been the five that are listed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:10, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== When Worlds Collide ==

I think that it's great that TMBG & The Brothers Chaps got together because they're all geniuses in their fields with similar sensibilties that makes their work so compatible, introducing so many fans of one or the other to a new world of entertainment.

There was, of course already an overlap in the fanbase prior to TMBG & H*R's collaberations. Via SBEmail and even more so the Experimental Film video, a lot of Homestar fans were introduced to TMBG and a lot of TMBG fans were introduced to Homestar Runner. I was one of the latter, having watched my first toon, SBEmail #99 in March '04 after receiving a TMBG e-mail newsletter inviting me to do just that.

I hope that these guys get together again, and soon. Don't you?? --[[User:TDK|TDK]] 18:18, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

User:TDK

TDK — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:04:18 GMT

TDK:

Experimental Film

TDK — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:02:35 GMT

TDK: /* Real World References */ - Frank Black subbed for Linnell at a single show; it was an isolated incident. I changed it to say that he has toured with them.

[[Image:experimentalfilm.PNG|thumb|Strong Sad does some filming]]
[[Image:gracious.png|thumb|"Ahh! More like our 'I'll murder you in a back alley' host."]]
Strong Sad and The Cheat make a video for They Might Be Giants.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Sad]], [[Tentacle Skull]], [[They Might Be Giants|John Flansburgh]], [[They Might Be Giants|John Linnell]], [[The Cheat]], [[Gavin]], [[Lions#.22It.27s_a_lion.21.22|It's a lion!]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]]

'''Date:''' July 13, 2004

==Lyrics==

The color of infinity 
Inside an empty glass. 
I'm squinting my eye 
And turning off and on and on 
and off the light.

It's for this experimental film, 
Which nobody knows about, and which 
I'm still figuring out what's going to go 
In my experimental film.

Yeah, you're all gonna be in this experimental film, 
And even though I can't explain it, 
I already know how great it's.

I already know the ending. 
It's the part that makes your face implode. 
I don't know what makes your face implode, 
But that's the way the movie ends.

And in my experimental film, 
Which nobody knows about, but which 
After figuring out, your face implodes. 
It's my experimental film.

Yeah, you're all gonna be in this experimental film, 
And even though I can't explain it, 
I already know how great it-- 
Even though I can't explain it, 
I already know how great it's.

[Instrumentation]

The color of infinity 
Inside an empty glass. 
It's for this experimental film, 
Which nobody knows about, and which 
I'm still figuring out what's going to go 
In my experimental film.

Yeah, you're all gonna be in this experimental film, 
And even though I can't explain it, 
I already know how great it's gonna-- 
Yeah, you're gonna be in this experimental film, 
And even though I can't explain it, 
I already know how great it-- 
Even though I can't explain it, 
I already know how great it's.

== Easter Eggs ==

*You can click on "Directed by Strong Sad & The Cheat" before the video starts to get a commentary by the directors. Okay, maybe a little more than the directors.

== Commentary Transcript ==

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, this is Strong Sad--

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat makes The Cheat noises which sounds like, "And The Cheat!"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' --and we're the co-directors of this video.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Meh!}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, so my portion of this video details the life of a very lonely individual named Rondell who can't deal with the decisions of day-to-day life.

'''STRONG BAD:''' We interrupt this whining to bring you this important headline: "World bored to death by Strong Sad commentary."

'''STRONG SAD:''' Agh, what are you doing here? You're hardly even in this video!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, well I woulda been the one directing it if weren't for those Super Giant guys.

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's not what they're called.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whatever they're called, that one right there with the glasses, he started talking all these vocabulary words at me and confusin' me and the next thing I know, I was relegated to this crappy bit part. ''{Referring to the top of two heads (one is wearing glasses, likely They Might Be Giants' John Flansburgh)}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, "relegated" sounds like a vocabulary word.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll relegate your face to a... bloody pulp!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, that part represented hitting coffee with a drumstick. Okay. ''{Coffee is being hit with a drumstick}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{upon seeing a picture captioned "our gracious host"}'' Ahh! More like our "I'll murder you in a back alley" host.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, so this next part is an allusion to one of my very favorite experimental films called--

'''STRONG BAD:''' Boring Johnny and the Get Bored Crew.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{exasperated}'' Would you quit it with the "boring" comments?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, if it weren't for that tentacle skull riding the old-timey bike, this video would have nothin'!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{barely comprehensible}'' You don't like the video, huh?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, yeah, the first question on that pop quiz was, "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?" ''{Referring to Pop Quiz in clip}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, look, there he is! Keep on old-timey bikin', tentacle-skull. ''{A cockroach appears.}'' Hey, is that Gavin? I didn't know he was in this video. He's got, like, as much screen time as I do!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey guys, is this the Super Giants video?

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's not what they're--

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes. But they cut us out of it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, weird -- then why'd they bother getting somebody who looks just like me? ''{Seeing himself in the clip}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, that is you, I just mean they mostly--

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Seeing Strong Bad and Strong Mad in the clip}'' And that guy looks just like you! And that big guy ''{referring to Strong Mad}'' looks just like Coach Z!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now this part accurately represents what it feels like to watch this video. ''{Ticking clock shown}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{exasperated}'' Ohhh! This next part is all about Rondell's transformation into a new man.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I thought you said that was just an accident that happened because you loaded the film wrong. ''{Rondell turns into animated Rondell}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{embarassed}'' Uhh, why don't you shut up, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno... 'cause I guess I got a lot of stuff to say.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Check out my dance! Ooh, ah, ooh side-swipe! ''{The Cheat joins in}'' Ooh, ah, ooh side-swipe! ''{Homestar joins in}'' Ooh, ah, ooh side-swipe! Ooh, ah, ooh side-swipe!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ahhh, this is the worst commentary ever!

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I've been saying this whole time!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, me too. Worst commissary ever!

'''STRONG SAD:''' At this point reality and fantasy have collided and everybody... pogos.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{angry}'' What do you mean you tried to be as dumpy-accurate as possible?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's talk about how "Real Smooth Moves" is like the best band name ever. The old Supreme Giants boys could take a cue from that one.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm gonna take a cue from that kitchen table and go get me a blueberry muffin!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ohh, what a disaster. I hope I still get paid.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*This toon was made for the first single from They Might Be Giants' tenth studio album ''[http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/The_Spine The Spine]''. The song is called [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Experimental_Film "Experimental Film"].

*The two head-tops belong to They Might Be Giants' John Flansburgh and John Linnell. The one on the left is Flansburgh, as he has black hair and wears glasses, and the one on the right is Linnell.

*The answers for the "pop quiz" most likely refer to the [[Wikipedia:Cotton gin|Cotton gin]], an invention that revolutionized the cotton-growing industry; [[Wikipedia:Appomattox, Virginia|Appomattox, Virginia]], a town famous as the location where the American Civil War ended; and the all-time career record for home runs in Major League Baseball (755), set by baseball player [[Wikipedia:Hank Aaron|Hank Aaron]]. The first question was "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"

=== Trivia ===
*This toon was originally posted on [[The Brothers Chaps]]'s [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/ thoraxcorp.com], but was quickly taken down.

*This toon was released at approximately midnight, Atlanta time, on 13 July 2004 - the release date of ''The Spine''.

*As of January 2005, the toon is now available [http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/com.apple.jingle.app.store.DirectAction/viewVideo?b=a&videoId=41146400 through the iTunes Music Store] (requires iTunes)

*The joystick Homestar is using is for an Atari 2600.

=== Remarks ===
*The first line of the song is "The color of infinity inside an empty glass." Strong Sad's glass is full.

*The wrecking ball that swings between Strong Sad and the ATM in one shot is actually the swinging light bulb painted black.

*Even though Strong Sad says he can't jump in his blog, he jumps here and in A Jumping Jack Contest.

=== Goofs ===
*The clock has 6 seconds between the 3 and the 4.

=== Inside References ===
*[[Gavin]], the cockroach from the easter egg in [[personal favorites]], makes a cameo appearance.

*When It's a lion! pops up for the first time, the lion is wearing Homestar's hat.

*Near the end, the crowd flips the cards to a picture of an olive on a toothpick. This was the eye from the [[Homestar Jr.]] in [[Where's The Cheat?]]

*When the people in the grandstands flip the scenery cards to the mountain scene, it slightly resembles [[Main Page 2]].

*"Our gracious host" bears a striking resemblence to [[Monte Negro]] in [[Malloween Commercial]].

=== Real World References ===
*Strong Sad meeting the Grim Reaper through split screens is a reference to Ingmar Bergman's ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050976/ The Seventh Seal]''.

*Much of the imagery, and especially the scenes of Strong Sad watching film sprocket holds go by, is likely a reference to one of the first great experimental films, ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019760/ The Man with a Camera]'' by Dziga Vertov, which has a section in which the sides of the film are exposed, and the characters look outside their own frame/world at the holes running by.

*Ants crawling out of holes in Strong Sad's hands is a reference to Luis Bunuel's ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020530/ Un Chien Andalou]'' ("An Andalusian Dog").
**The "ants" are actually little The Cheats.
**"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of the Pixies, is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to Alfred Hitchcock's ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038109/ Spellbound]''.

*In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to the [http://www.thesimpsons.com/ Simpsons], where the Comic Book Guy is always saying "Worst <nowiki>[something]</nowiki> ever.".
**The phrase is something of an in-joke in Simpsons lore. Some history ''[http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=451131 Here]''

*The swinging light is an image found at the end of Alfred Hitchcock's ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054215/ Psycho]'', and was also used at the end of TMBG's music video for ''[http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/The_Guitar The Guitar]''.

*The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0241317/ The Colours of Infinity]'', a 1995 television documentary by Arthur C. Clarke about fractal geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

* In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

*United States Presidents are [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Presidents a common theme] in TMBG's work; they have no fewer than five songs about U.S. Presidents, an album called ''Lincoln'', and frequently mention Presidents in songs and on stage. Their [http://www.tmbg.com website] is also presidentially themed.
**It should be noted, however, that while the band chose the album title ''Lincoln'' fully aware of its presidential overtones, the album is actually named after Lincoln, Massachusetts - the town where the two Johns grew up.

*The Tentacle Skull (seen riding the bicycle) is another [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Skulls frequent TMBG theme]. In addition to being mentioned in several of their songs, it appears on the cover of their ''[http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Back_To_Skull Back to Skull]'' EP and on the back of their ''[http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/John_Henry John Henry]'' album. The skull might also be the [http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Skullivan Skullivan], as mentioned in the companion EP for ''The Spine'', ''[http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/The_Spine_Surfs_Alone_(EP) The Spine Surfs Alone]''.

*[http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Coffee Coffee] is yet another common theme in the work of TMBG. The earliest videos and promotional matierials from the 80's show TMBG with cups of coffee. In the film ''[http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Gigantic Gigantic]'', TMBG confesses that they are insanely dependent on coffee.

*According to [http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/play.html this Wired interview], TMBG will be making a separate video for the MTV crowd. Choice quote: "I feel like if MTV and Homestar collided, the world might explode."

*Despite "resolving not to feel so bad about wanting to hit Homestar so much" (see Strong Sad's Blog), the commentary shows the first time that Strong Sad has stood up to Homestar. As expected, Homestar doesn't take him very seriously.

*The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [http://www.3drealms.com/keenhistory/ Commander Keen], Defender of the Universe!

*In the commentary, both Strong Bad and Homestar get TMBG's name totally wrong (both "Super Giants" and "Supreme Giants" are mentioned). This is, of course, not the first time this has happened. In fact, one of their early EPs included [http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Untitled an answering machine message] in which two people discuss "There Must Be Giants" and "There May Be Giants" and appear to be confused about the whole experience. Also on their song They Got Lost on their live album Severe Tire Damage, the song starts with an announcement of "Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for They Must Be Giants!"

*The finger that comes up at one point might be a reference to the thumb on the cover of TMBG's "Dial-a-Song" album.

*In the commentary, Strong Bad interrupts Strong Sad with the phrase "Boring Johnny and the Get Bored Crew". This is most likely a reference to the hip hop group "Doug E. Fresh And The Get Fresh Crew".

==External Links==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/expfilm.html watch "Experimental Film"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/expfilm_final.swf view the flash file for "Experimental Film"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=273 forum thread re: "Experimental Film"]
*[http://www.theymightbegiants.com/ Download the song at theymightbegiants.com].
*[http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Experimental_Film This Might Be a Wiki: Experimental Film]

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Songs]][[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Tentacle Skull Filmography]]

Floppy Disk Container

TDK — Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:59:07 GMT

TDK: Fixed the game title, its Miner 2049er not Miner 1949er and added a link to a site about it.

The Floppy Disk Container sits to the right of [[Strong Bad]]'s computer. It shows the latest game he has been playing. This page catelogues appearances of the Floppy Disk Container, with screenshots, the toon or emails where it appeared, a brief explanation of the game mentioned on the floppy disk, and sources of supplementary material about the game. The majority of the labels are names of computer games and mostly from the '80s.
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|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Appearances !! Explanation !! Sources
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_little_animal.PNG|150px|Blank 5.25 Inch Disk]] || [[little animal]], [[superhero name]] || The 5.25 inch disks were the standard disk until the 3.5 inch floppies came out. The 5.25 inch disks are what gave both kinds of disk the title 'floppy', as you could easily bend the disks, enough to nearly fold them over without them breaking. They were replaced by the 3.5 inch floppies in the early 1990's, which have been mostly replaced by the compact disc. The 3.5 disks still survive by being rewritable, and are therefore used for transferring very small files. They will likely be completely replaced by the compact disc within a few years, once repeatedly rewritable compact discs are perfected. || [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk Wiki]] [[http://computer.howstuffworks.com/floppy-disk-drive1.htm Here]] [[http://www.accurite.com/FloppyPrimer.html Here]] [[http://www.douglasmedia.com/prod8.html Here]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_ghosts.PNG|150px|Tongue Of The Fatman]] || [[ghosts]], [[50 emails]] || Tongue of The Fatman was a fighting game for DOS and Commodore 64, released in 1989. You choose from different alien races (including Human) with different abilities and fighting styles, purchase weapons and devices, and fight your way through multiple opponents to face the Fatman. Some of the more innovative features include being able to place wagers on the outcome of the fight, and the phenomenon of a special move becoming less powerful the more you use it to balance gameplay. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,1067/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Tongue+of+The+Fatman Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/31897.html Faqs]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_morning_routine.PNG|150px|Lode Runner]] || [[morning routine]], [[cheat talk]] || Lode Runner was a strategy type game for DOS and Apple, originally created in 1983. It was originally an ASCII game, where you (Jake Peril) were simply a $ sign (The enemies were ¶'s). The object of the game was to win back treasures stolen by the Evil Empire. Eventually re-released on the Apple II as 'Miner', it featured real graphics. Finally Miner was submitted to Brøderbund and was finally published, under the name 'Lode Runner'. There have been countless versions of this game made, generally by random people and circulated over the Internet. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,4/gameId,243/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=651 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/apple2/data/26603.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lode_Runner Wiki]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_current_status.PNG|150px|Loom (Disk 1 of 24)]] || [[current status]] || Loom was an adventure game for the PC, released in 1989. It was one of a variety of games created by LucasFilm Games, before they decided to exclusively make the very popular 'Star Wars' games. You are Bobbin Threadbare, the mysterious "Loom child" and member of the Weaver Guild who must embark on a perilous journey to follow his guild members who were turned into geese and flew away from the Loom island. All puzzles are solved using a variety of spells cast from a magical staff, with no traditional inventory. There weren't actually 24 disks, at least not for the original version. There was the option of Six 5.25" Double Density (360KB) disks, or three 3.5" Double Density (720KB) floppies. Loom was also later released on CD-ROM with a bonus soundtrack disc bundled with Creative brand sound cards. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,176/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=655 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11465.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOOM Wiki]] [[http://www.creative.com Here]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_huttah!.PNG|150px|Star Flight]] || [[huttah!]] || Starflight was a ship game for the PC, released in 1986. Mankind has left earth due to an exhaustion of resources, and need to colonize another planet. Then Basically you just travel around the galaxy mining, gathering crew, fighting aliens, and trying to figure out why star systems are being blown up, without getting blown up with them. A very long winded game. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,115/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=2086 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11678.html Faqs]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_interview.PNG|150px|Rise Of The Dragon]] || [[interview]] || Rise Of The Dragon was a puzzle game for DOS, Amiga, and Sega CD, released in 1990. It was Dynamix's first game, presented in a Blade Runner-like environment and story. You assume the role of ex-cop William “Blade” Hunter, contracted to root out the source of a deadly new drug, MTZ, that ships in patch form and has a tendency to turn users into lizard creatures before killing them. There are a couple of arcade sequences but they are forgiving since they can be skipped if you die enough times. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,98/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=910 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11129.html Faqs]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_unused_emails.PNG|150px|Friendly Ware]] || [[unused emails]] || Friendly Ware was a software package for the PC, released in 1987. It was released by Friendlysoft, written in BASIC, and rendered in text mode via clever use of ASCII characters. The games included Master Mind, Nevada Dice, Killer Maze (navigate 3D mazes), Sea Battle (find a submarine with depth charges), Boggy Marsh (find monsters in a marsh), Hangman, Tic-Tac-Toe (unbeatable against computer), Wildcatter (an oil drilling simulation), Othello, Peg Leap (basic remove pegs game), Blackjack, Dominoes, Golf, Head Coach (a football simulation), Match (a Memory-style game) and Towers of Atlantis (a Towers of Hanoi game). Other software included a number of financial programs, eye and ear tests, an ASCII drawing program, a biorhythm charter (which suffers from the Y2K bug), sports prediction software, and a computing tutorial. || [[http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3?game=1287 Here]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_caper.PNG|150px|Manhunter New York]] || [[Arcade Game]], [[caper]] || Manhunter New York was an adventure game for DOS, Atari ST, and Amiga, released in 1988. It was made about a year into Sierra On-Line, by Dave, Barry, and Dee Dee Murray. It is set 16 years into the 'future', in the year 2004. In 2002 The Orbs, an alien race composed of enormous eyeballs, invaded the planet Earth, mainly New York. Two years later, in 2004, you play a Manhunter, who's only job is to track down human criminals and bring them to justice. Another 'first person, point and click' type game. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,24/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=680 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11668.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunter_%28game%29 Wiki]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_big_white_face.PNG|150px|World Games]] || [[big white face]] || World Games was a sports game for DOS and Commodore 64, made in 1987. It was made by Epyx, a company that made mostly sports games. World Games was a great collection of sports games from around the globe. It had not only good gameplay, but it was also educational, as each event started with an excellent introduction screen that gives both the background of the sport and basic rules. Some of the more enjoyable games included the scottish Caber Toss and and the spanish Bull Riding. || [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1287 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/c64/data/16987.html Faqs]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_privileges.PNG|150px|Space Shipper]] || [[privileges]] || Space Shipper is a fictitious game made by [[Videlectrix]], and looks to be a Gradius/1943-esque shooter clone. Fiendish lasers threaten to destroy the solar system! Explosions are taking over the galaxy!! It's Memorial Day and YOU were the only Spaceshipper who didn't have plans. Pilot your StarZoom to freedom! And time and a half!! || [[http://www.videlectrix.com/videlectrix_catalog.html Vidx]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_funny.PNG|150px|Odell Lake]] || [[funny]] || Odell Lake was an "educational" arcade game for the Apple II, released in 1986. It was created by MECC, a company known for making many educational games. It was a simulation game in which you take the role of a fish in Odell Lake, Oregon. you meet various forms of animal and plant life, including other types of fish. Each time you meet another animal or a plant, you must decide what to do. Your decisions determine whether or not you survive! || [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/apple2/data/921849.html Faqs]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_sibbie.PNG|150px|50K Race Walk]] || [[sibbie]] || 50K Racewalk is a fictitious game by [[Videlectrix]], where the player must alternate pressing left and right for hours to win. Left right, left right, left right, left right, left right, left right, left right, left right, right, OOPS! You lose! Alternate left and right without messing up for about 5 hours and you could win the gold!! || [[http://www.videlectrix.com/videlectrix_catalog.html Vidx]]
|-
| [[Image:Floppy_anything.PNG|150px|7th Guest]] || [[anything]] || The 7th Guest was a puzzle game for DOS and Windows, released in 1993. It was created by Virgin Interactive Entertainment, the same people to bring you Shogun. It's set in the Stauf mansion, Stauf being a maker of toys that became cursed, making the children who had them quite ill. He invited 6 guests to his house to unravel the mysteries of the building, then he invites the 7th guest, you. Once there, you have to solve a variety of puzzles. There's an atmosphere as well that tries to tie it all together, including clips of actors and sound effects, but the majority of the game is a big puzzle collection. The puzzles don't have directions or instructions, meaning you have to learn through trial and error. Not a game for the ages, but an entertaining collection of puzzles. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,283/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11550.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_the_process.PNG|150px|Tass Times In Tonetown]] || [[the process]] || Tass Times in Tonetown was an adventure game for PC, Apple II, Atari ST, Amiga, and Commodore 64, released in 1986. It's a quirky, underrated game made by Activision. Your job: visit Tonetown, a psychadelic, punkrock alternate reality to save your grandpa from a hideous crocodile creature named Franklin J. Snarl. You also have the aid of your dog who not only talks but becomes a star reporter. The puzzles are numerous but mostly easy. With a world of floating phones, triangular moons, and wacky puzzles, all created through your grandpa's dreams thanks to the "dream hoop" he invented, Tass Times in Tonetown is an extremely original game enjoyed by Adventure game fans. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,4/gameId,90/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1130 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11093.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_mile1.PNG|150px|One On One]] || [[mile]] || One on one was a pioneering sports game for the Commodore 64, released in 1984. It was one of Electronic Arts' first games, a company known best for their quality sports games. This basketball game is a faithful translation of the real thing, with fouls and traveling calls, free throws, a three-point line, and even a shot clock. There are a number of gameplay options--play for a certain amount of time or first to a set score, winner's or loser's outs, etc. Players have a fatigue bar that decreases when running around and replenishes when holding still; fatigued players don't move as quickly. It had decent graphics for it's time period, but substandard sound effects. Despite this it was still a decent game, for it's time. || [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/c64/data/2721.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_mile0.PNG|150px|Cheat Style Floppy]] || [[mile]] || They're blank floppy disks animated by the cheat. The titles are unseen until you click on them, revealing the titles of the disks in easter eggs. Like the real floppy disk container stolen by the cheat in 'puppet time', there's not too much to say about them. || [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk Wiki]] [[http://computer.howstuffworks.com/floppy-disk-drive1.htm Here]] [[http://www.accurite.com/FloppyPrimer.html Here]] [[http://www.douglasmedia.com/prod8.html Here]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_mile2.PNG|150px|Out Of This World]] || [[mile]] || Out of this world was an Action Adventure game for DOS, Windows 3.X, SNES, Atari ST, Amiga, Genesis, and 3DO, made in 1991. You assume the role of Lester, a young physics professor, who suddenly finds himself on a strange alien world after lightning strikes his particle experiment. It's a cinematic game featuring realistic vector graphics and animation. It has plenty of animated cutscenes and and ambient sound effects, despite fitting on one 5.25 disk. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,564/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11089.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_World_%28video_game%29 Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_mile3.PNG|150px|Nitemare 3-D]] || [[mile]] || Nitemare 3D was an action game, obviously 3D, for DOS and Windows 3.X, made in 1994. It was made by Gray Design Associates, a company not known for much else. It's linked to the Hugo house of horror series in that you assume the role of Hugo in an attempt to save Penelope. You basically go through a three dimensional house of horrors defeating all sorts of evil bad graphics things, in a bad graphics environment. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,2595/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/12022.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitemare_3D Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_couch_patch.PNG|150px|Old Game]] || [[couch patch]] || The title "Old game" could either simply be a generic title for an old 80's or 90's game, or 'It's a funny old game', the only game name remotely close to the floppy disk label. It was a sports game released for Windows in 1996. It's a light-hearted, amusing soccer game, with cartoon drawings to depict players, and an animated soccer ball that bounces on the pitch to signify each team's advances in the match. It also has features including player drafting, training schedule, sponsor and finances, and formation selections. Fatuige even plays a big role in the matches' outcome. There is also a short time limit for you being manager of the team, preventing you from building your team very high, and winning many championships, a low point for a game such as this. || [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=1596 Udogs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_kind_of_cool.PNG|150px|Nabunagas Ambition]] || [[kind of cool]] || Nobunaga's Ambition was a turn-based strategy game for DOS, NES, SNES, Amiga, and Genesis, released in 1988. It was set in Japan's "Warring States" period, in the 16th century. You take on the role of Nobunaga Oda, a merciless ruler and great strategist, or one of the other daimyos and try to conquer Japan. Through turns you manage your armies (recruit new soldiers, train army, buy weapons etc.), keep your subjects happy, form alliances, or play dirty and hire ninjas to bribe & assassinate. When a daimyo becomes an old man, he will die of old age or sickness, giving this game a time limit. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,5825/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=770 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/data/7984.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_army.PNG|150px|Seicross (Suckcross)]] || [[army]] || Seicross, Aka "Suckcross", was a Sports Action game for DOS and the NES, released in 1988. It was made by FCI another little known game making company. The planet Colura and their peaceful inhabitants, the Petras, have been attacked by another badly named and much more hostile tribe known as the Basrah. While most of the Petras have hidden underground, there are still a few left out in the open, and it's your job to cruise on a bike through numerous terrains, scooping Petras up to safety. The graphics are simplistic, the music poor and repetitive, the controls are touchy, the game is basically the same thing over and over, and doesn't really have much of an ending. Quite deserving of the title 'Suckcross'. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,22/gameId,15184/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/data/8104.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_video_games.PNG|150px|Bio Menace]] || [[video games]] || Bio Menace is a classic sidescrolling adventure shooter game for DOS, released in 1993. It was created by Apogee, a company known for creating many adventure sidescrollers during that era. Basically, a scientest releases a pile of mutants and holds the world hostage, and it is up to Snake Logan to save the day. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,236/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3144 Udogs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_lackey.PNG|150px|Maniac Mansion]] || [[lackey]] || Maniac Mansion was an adventure game for DOS, Apple II, NES, Atari ST, Amiga, and Commodore 64, released in 1987 by LucasFilm Games. It featured multiple characters to choose from, four possible endings, multiple solutions to the puzzles, and a very non-linear structure in general, giving the player a wide range of methods to win. The plot is to save the girlfriend of one of your characters. The only hurdle is the residents of, and the building itself, the Maniac Mansion. It's made to be a spoof on every cheesy action/horror/sci-fi movie of the 80's, making the game a purposeful joke. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,714/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4894 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11439.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniac_Mansion Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_stupid_stuff.PNG|150px|Hypou Blade]] || [[stupid stuff]] || Hypou Blade could be refering to 'HyperBlade', said with a Homestar speech impediment. HyperBlade was a Hockey game released for Windows in 1996. Made by Activision, HyperBlade introduces the 3D battlesport of the future. Players engage in a futuristic street-hockey style game with a very different twist. Body-checks (weapons are included) go for blood in this game as players can be gruesomely eliminated from the game. Power-ups, speed boosts, ramps, and simple team management (for substitutions) are all part of the experience. Some strategy is required for play, but it's mostly pure action. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,3/gameId,1776/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4625 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11800.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_different_town.PNG|150px|BAAL]] || [[different town]] || BAAL was a little known Action game for the Atari ST and Commodore 64, released in 1989. You are member of the Time Warriors, an elite commando unit sent into an alien lair to defeat Baal, a crazy demon who is bent on conquering Earth. Featuring groutesque looking aliens, BAAL has a reputation as being a mildly disturbing action game. Overall, besides the creepy look of the game, there is little surprise or challenge to keep anyone playing to the end. A rather lackluster shooter. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,24/gameId,3850/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1569 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_Puppet_Time.PNG|150px|Puppet Style Floppy]] || [[Puppet Time]] || It's a real floppy disk container. May be labeled, but the quality is too poor to see. Like the blank floppy disk animated by the cheat in 'mile', there's not too much to say about it. || [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk Wiki]] [[http://computer.howstuffworks.com/floppy-disk-drive1.htm Here]] [[http://www.accurite.com/FloppyPrimer.html Here]] [[http://www.douglasmedia.com/prod8.html Here]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_flashback.PNG|150px|Cave Quest]] || [[flashback]] || Cave Quest was an adventure game that [[The Brothers Chaps]] made while they were younger, likely the late 1980's or 1990's. They made it on the Apple II, and it supposedly had "gorgeous low-res Apple II C+ graphics." || [[http://www.adventuregamers.com/article/id,416 Here]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_SBIIJC.PNG|150px|Shogun]] || [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]] || Shogun was an Adventure game for DOS, released in 1988. It was made by Virgin Interactive Entertainment, the same people that brought you 7th Guest. Basically you wander around as one of a number of characters, trying to build up your rapport with the people. If that fails, you can also battle and plunder, working your way up to the status of Shogun. You can also collect items during your adventures, including weapons and armour. The game doesn't end until you die or become Shogun. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,1645/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1538 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/data/28231.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_car.PNG|150px|Ugh-lympics]] || [[car]] || Caveman Ugh-lympics was a sports game for DOS, NES, and Commodore 64, released in 1988. It was made by Electronic Arts, a company well known for making quality sports games. In this early game of theirs you assume the roles of various cave men while competing in prehistoric sports, namely saber race, mate toss, clubbing, firemaking, dino race and dino vault. The controls are somewhat awkward, but with up to a 4 player option, and fun events fun to watch, Caveman Ugh-lympics makes for a short but fun, quirky game. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,4230/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=183 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/c64/data/1418.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_haircut.PNG|150px|Tengen Classix]] || [[haircut]] || Tengen Classix was likely a collection of the best classic games made by Tengen. Tengen was name given to Atari so they could make and trade games for the Nintendo Entertainment System after Atari was refused a license by Nintendo. It made games from 1985 through to 1993. They made games for a wide array of platforms, from Amiga to ZX Spectrum, and everything in between. Over 40 games were credited to them, with titles such as Paperboy 1&2, Tetris, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Ms. Pac-Man, Hydra, and many many more. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/o,100/j,1359/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/company.php?id=402 Udogs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengen_%28company%29 Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_replacement.PNG|150px|Alone In The Dark]] || [[replacement]] || Alone in the Dark was an Action Adventure game for DOS and 3DO, released in 1992. It was made out to be a horror game by Interplay, a 3D adventure game with some action thrown in, loosely based on the works of H.P. Lovecraft. You play a character that is driven to investigate a "suicide" in an old Louisiana mansion. Little do you know, however, of the lurking horrors that await you. Many enemies, few weapons, and one goal: Escape alive. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,325/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11071.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_in_the_dark Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_cheatday.PNG|150px|Bushido]] || [[cheatday]] || Bushido was an Action game for DOS, released in 1983. It was made by Ebenel Enterprises, a company who's best and only credit was Bushido. It was a martial arts fighing game set in feudal Japan with a simple premise: fight a multitude of enemies in a multitude of settings. Very repetitive, but a pioneer of the martial arts fighting genre. In japanese, bushido means "way of the warrior". ||[[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,1351/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=159 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/c64/data/1378.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_the_facts.PNG|150px|Thexder]] || [[the facts]] || Thexder was an Action game for DOS, Apple II, and Amiga, released in 1987. It was a platform shooter from Japan, with many levels and diverse enemies that gradually increase in difficulty. You pilot a Robotech-style robot capable of switching from a mech into a jet at any time, complete with auto-aim, rechargable energy, and a short term shield that can be activated to protect you from harm. It didn't have a save option however, so playing for an hour just to die at the same point eventually starts to get frustrating. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,49/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=1150 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11765.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_lunar_lander.PNG|150px|Lunar Lander]] || [[time capsule]] || Lunar Lander was an arcade game using vector graphics made by Atari in 1979. It was later ported to the Atari 400/800 home computers line. The goal of the game was to correctly land a lunar module on the surface of the moon. If the player miscalculates the module's landing, the module will either fly off into space or crash hard against the moon's surface. Due to the simplicity of the design, it has spawned countless flash copies on the internet. || [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3895 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/data/3817.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Lander Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_extra_plug.PNG|150px|Death Track]] || [[extra plug]] || Deathtrack was a Racing game for DOS, released in 1989. It was made by Dynamix, with a simple premise. In the future, races are held across America where the drivers race for money, and their lives. You are the rookie. Welcome to Deathtrack. You start the game with a meagre sum, choose from one of three cars, either speedy, powerful, or armored. You race, you win, and your winnings can be used to upgrade your car's armour, weapons and parts to eventually make your car nearly invincible. Which comes in handy, since this game doesn't really have an ending. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,1758/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1538 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/31898.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_virus.png|150px|Spy Vs Spy]] || [[virus]] || Spy Vs Spy was a strategy game for Apple II, NES, Atari ST, Amiga, Sega Master System, Commodore 64, and ZX Spectrum, released in 1984. It was first published by First Star Software and based on the M.A.D magazine comics with the same name about the slapstick antics of two spies trying to kill each other with improbably complex and elaborate traps and weapons. A fun two player game, enjoyed with a friend or against the computer. You assume the role of either the black spy or the white spy, and try to beat your counterpart before the time bell rings. Find the needed objects hidden throughout the embassy, and set creative booby traps for your foe. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,31/gameId,7332/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/data/8151.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_animal.PNG|150px|Future Wars]] || [[animal]] || Future Wars was an Adventure game for DOS, Atari ST, and Amiga released in 1990. It was Delphine Software's debut and first attempt at a graphic adventure game with a point-and-click interface. A right click brings up the verb menu. After choosing one of the six commands, you point the mouse over the desired target and execute with a left click. You assume the role of a common, little window cleaner, when you find a time machine in your chiefs back office. Thus begins your adventure in both the past and the future. Evil aliens, beautiful girl, and sometimes very frustrating puzzles make up the bulk of this game. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,2205/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1644 Udogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11160.html Faqs]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_Main_Page_22_02.png|150px|Oregon Trail]] || [[Main Page 22]] || The Oregon Trail was an educational game for DOS, Windows, and Apple II, first released in 1985. It was made by MECC, a company known for making educational games, with Oregon Trail being it's most notable accomplishment. As a covered wagon party of pioneers, you head out west from Independence, MI to the Willamette River and valley in Oregon. You first must stock up on provisions, and then, while traveling, make decisions such as when to rest, how much food to eat, etc. It incorporated strategy and planning ahead along with discovery and adventure as well as action (hunting and floating down the Dalles river). It also spawned several remakes and sequels. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,746/ Moby]] [[http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2972 UDogs]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/26639.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_%28computer_game%29 Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_Main_Page_22_01.png|150px|Oregon Trail 2]] || [[Main Page 22]] || The Oregon Trail II was an educational game for Windows, released in 1996. It was also made by MECC, the second in a line of several remakes of the classic game. In this sequel to Oregon Trail you can do much more than its predecessor. You can travel to Salt Lake City or Oregon City, and start at several different places. You also have to deal with problems along the way, including starvation, broken appendages, and those sort of things. You'll probably even lose several members of your wagon along the way. But that's okay, as long as they don't include yourself. || [[http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,2217/ Moby]] [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/32195.html Faqs]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_%28computer_game%29#The_Oregon_Trail_2 Wiki]]
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| [[Image:Floppy_dreamail.png|150px|Miner 2049er]] || [[dreamail]] || Miner 2049er || [[http://www.classicgaming.com/miner2049er/ Here]]
|}

[[Category:Inside Jokes]] [[Category:Lists]]

User:TDK

TDK — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:27:58 GMT

TDK: welcome to me

I'm a fan that was introduced to Homestar earlier this year by my favorite band, [[They Might Be Giants]].

[[different_town|Email #99]] was the first H*R cartoon I ever watched, as suggested by TMBG's official e-mail newsletter.

I've run a TMBG fan site since 1997, it's at http://www.theymightbegiants.org.

I have seen [[They Might Be Giants]] in concert over a hundred times. Go me.

User:TDK

TDK — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:27:13 GMT

TDK: welcome to me

I'm a fan that was introduced to Homestar earlier this year by my favorite band, [[They Might Be Giants]].

[[different_town|Email #99]] was the first H*R cartoon I ever watched, as suggested by TMBG's official e-mail newsletter.

I've run a TMBG fan site since 1997, it's at www.theymightbegiants.org.

I have seen [[They Might Be Giants]] in concert over a hundred times. Go me.

User:TDK

TDK — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:25:12 GMT

TDK: me

HRWiki:Old STUFF

TDK — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:18:15 GMT

TDK: /* Coach Z's disconnected reciever */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Broken phone ====

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/51/ Salad Fingers] Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/39/ rusty metal], this might be intentional.

*'''Decline.''' I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Decline.''' Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Has what it takes ====

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

*'''Decline.''' Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

==== "Oh cwap" vs "I say.." ====

Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to [[The King Of Town DVD]], when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)

**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[Xhycho]]

*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]

==== Garfield X-mas ====

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302596/ Garfield Christmas Special], in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

*I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of an Xmas tree immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]]. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
**This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*'''Decline''' - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ===

Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone is a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

=== [[the facts]] ===

==== Channel 3 ====

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

*'''Decline.''' I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' I don't think people in NTSC countries care either. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 17:22, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:seedling|seedling]] 14:14, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Decline.''' Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Homestar's cartoon ====

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really ''does'' eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

*'''Rewrite/Decline.''' I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' More opinion than fact. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Weak Rewrite.''' Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see [http://www.askoxford.com Ox. Engl. Dict.] or [http://dictionary.reference.com dictionary.com]). --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

=== [[radio]] ===

==== Four-and-twenty stone ====
1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe [[TBC]] wouldn't promote marijuana here. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
**Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]]

==== The fish was delish ====
Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

*'''Decline.''' It's actually an old broadcasting cliché - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P
:Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Crackity towel! ====

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
==== Senor Cardgage ====

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Crackotage ====

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Bruce Almighty ====

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]

==== Plugged in ====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline.''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Highball! ====

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]

*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --[[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

* The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== Foster's Home ====
The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

*Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral.''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline.''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]

==== Pikmin thing? ====
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Soolnd ====
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:45, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But.. in [[The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever|The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever]] they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
***So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Subject Line, etc. ====
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:05, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This info is already on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
****You can cheat on Wikipedia links: [[Wikipedia:Compound eye|compound eyes]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*****Ooh, very nice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept.''' I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is [http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=segmented+eye&as_sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org not a scientific term] at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.     Even mudskippers (except Muddy) [http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-09/968709436.Zo.r.html don't 'really' have] "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**I'd [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+%22segmented+eyes%22+ try again] if I were you. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
***True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
****The evidence is [http://www.google.com/search?q=muddy+mudskipper+%22segmented+eyes%3F%22&btnG=Search here] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***I didn't say it's commonly used. When it ''is'' used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean [http://www.tohokingdom.com/web_pages/kajiu_bios/kamacuras.htm here], [http://www.geocities.com/sonconvoy/review_waspinator.html here] and [http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:R1RBhd8LU6kJ:members.tripod.com/~CAIN7/dgnat.htm++%22segmented+eyes%22+&hl=en here]. I can't find [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ainsectguide.net+%22segmented+eyes%22 any] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awikipedia.org+%22segmented+eyes% credible] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aentomology.si.edu+%22segmented+eyes%22 evidence] of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept.''' More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=compound+eye&q2=segmented+eye&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us comparatively rare]; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. [http://www.unb.ca/bruns/0203/24/entertainment/homestar.html TBC watch Ren & Stimpy] for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=%22compound+eye%22&q2=%22segmented+eye%22&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us very rare] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

==== These Speculations ====
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. ''{NB: I assumed nobody would complain, so I removed it'' --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]''}''
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat

==== Speculations, Again ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]].

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' Besides, we can't even be 100% sure Lappy ''will'' bite the dust (consider how shock many if not all of us were when Compy went bye-bye). -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search Three Stooges references]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The reference in [[In Search of the Yello Dello|Yello Dello]] seems weak, but in [[lackey]] it's quite clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]

==== Email number ====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' This isn't a noteworthy fact.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Speaking ====
This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Page title ====

The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

==== The Beginning and the End ====

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[impression]] ===

==== Elephant Slippers ====

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Get it off ====

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== [[Malloween Commercial]] ===

==== Mallowcremes ====

"[[Fluffy Puff Malloweens|Malloweens]]" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.

*'''Decline.''' It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== [[Decemberween Kid's Book]] ===

==== Magic Ball #1 ====

The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the ''Palantir'' from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.

==== Magic Ball #2 ====

The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.

==== Magic Ball #3 ====

Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
*'''Decline.''' I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Animal House ====

The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film ''Animal House'', when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.
*'''Decline.''' This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the [http://www.school-house-rock.com Schoolhouse Rock] classic about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' Why does everyone think that just because they heard it on a show it was unique only to that show?? --[[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 09:44, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===

==== 'Til Death and all that ====
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' Hmm. Okay! --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Accept.''' Where is this on the wiki? It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of [[Missy Palmer|his wife]] doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]