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Talk:Sickly Sam's Big Outing

Tenka Muteki — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:47:30 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /**/Live Action?

== Why "Shaboigen"? ==

Why? I looked and I couldn't see anywhere where it was spelled as Shaboigen, and not the actual spelling of Cheboygan or Sheboygan, depending on which one you're talking about (most likely Cheboygan, because they're in the 20s and referring to bootlegging). --Tony from Cheboygan, MI

== "And the rest!" ==

I'm not going to add it to the page, but did anyone else think about [[The Robot (storybook)|The Robot]], [[Mr. Bland]], and [[Señor]] at "The Rest"? It's probably a reach, but the one in the middle IS robotic-looking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No i think you are right that was the first thing i thought when i saw the toon. {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 13:52 2008 Feb 11

The robot, I can see. The other two, not so much. One's an alien (Old Timey [[Nebulon]]?!), and the other looks like a peanut with a black eye or something. I don't see the connection. But that's just me.
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The one on the right reminded me of Emmitt Nervend from Freakazoid. --DavidCatmull

Same thing here. DEFINATLY saw Emmitt Nervend. D: -[[User:Aranai|Aranai]] 16:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==

Is the cow that [[Sickly Sam]] ends up with the Old-Timey [[The Ugly One]]? I mean, she has quite similar specs and hair.--{{User:Kerny Mantis}} 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:yea and with the glasses maybe... but we should wait for another opinion because so far the only old timey characters have been the characters that live in Free Country USA so... it probaly isn't The Ugly One.

::Check the names of the the sender's friends in the email [[comics]] to see.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:::None of them are named Dee. The Ugly One is not from Free Country USA, the glasses were just popular in that era, and SHE'S A COW! So, no. No Ugly One.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Birds? ==

The Sneak being attacked by the seagulls reminded me of the Alfred Hitchcock movie ''The Birds''. Does anyone else think this is a reference?
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 13:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Firehouse reference? ==

This is a bit obscure, but at the end of this cartoon, Sickly Sam says, "I've finally found the love of a lifetime." which could be in reference to a song of the same name from the hard rock band Firehouse (since the Brothers Chaps seem very knowledgable about hard rock bands from that era). Other similar references were "Kevin Dubrow" a Quiet Riot reference from The Bet email and "Here I go again on my own" a Whitesnake reference from the Mile email. Not to mention all the old guitarist pics they have up in their audio recording room (seen in Sample of Style).

== Horse or Cow? ==

I'm pretty sure Dee is a horse, not a cow. For one thing, she has no utter. Plus, a horse would make more sense at a glue factory. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 20:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
: You're right. Fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely a cow, udders or no udders. It's got the spots, the cow-ish face and the cow-ish tail. Besides, cows are used at a glue factory as well, not just horses. ({User:Kerny Mantis)} 21.02 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:I think the tail is one of the best bits of evidence for her being a horse. It's basically just a mass of hair, like a horse's tail. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Problems playing file? ==

Is it just me, or did they do something to break the file? There's no audio after the word "..program" in the intro?

== Why no Places ==

In the "Places" section on the wiki, why aren't there any listed? Also I would wonder if I could make the page called the [[Saw Mill]] where The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Marzipan were being sawed by Old-Timey Strong Bad after Sickly Sam burned the film.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:They're not listed because no one's bothered to list them yet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Alley ==

Is "Skid Row" the [[Old-Timey]] alley?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 22:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's possible! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Super Modern Telegram ==

As [[The Homestar Runner]] gets the telegram it say SUPER MODERN TELEGRAM and as he reads it it says HONEST TELEGRAM.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 23:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Feel free to add that to the Remarks section. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Goofs? Really? ==

There are currently two goofs listed:<blockquote>
*When Old Timey Strong Bad jumps in on the boardwalk, Sickly Sam's hat disappears.
*The color of the end stripe on The Sneak's tail changes periodically throughout the toon.</blockquote>
Given the nature of this toon, I'm not sure we can count these as goofs. There are many purposefully introduced "goofs" in this toon. We should simply ignore it as we do with [[Powered by The Cheat]] "goofs".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Foiled? ==

Are we sure that "Foiled again!" is from the Dudley Do-right segment? I mean, Dick Dastardly from the old CN cartoon Wacky Racers also uses that. And that's just one example...

== Dressed to the 5 3/4s? ==

Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?

== Live Action? ==

Should it be mentioned under Remarks that unlike previous Old-Timey cartoons, this one seems to be styled after live action TV shows, with props on strings and poorly edited outakes?--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 01:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:environment

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:38:28 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Greencheat */

==Wrong Abbreviation==

Interestingly, MO is the abbreviation for the state of Missouri, not Montana. Montana's is MT. [[User:12.217.63.110|12.217.63.110]] 06:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's already been mentioned in the article :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::If you click on the easter egg a second time, "idiot and" is crossed out and replaced with "Mike is" (so the message reads: "Mike is a moron!") and Montana has changed into Missouri. [[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 00:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::Are we sure the e-mail author wasn't the one that's wrong/an idiot? Considering that Idaho is nowhere near Missouri but is next to Montana.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::That makes no sense. TBC are the ones that made the animation depicting the wrong state; they even poked fun at themselves over it. Why would the e-mail author not know her(?) own state's abbreviation? -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Because they're kids and accidentally typed the wrong abbreviation, I would guess. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, and it's not like MO isn't the abbreviation one would assume for Montana, obviously. This is speculation, of course, but to me it would make more sense for them to be from adjoining states than two totally unrelated ones.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::But even if Jules ''is'' from Montana, why would TBC know that, and make the Easter egg accordingly? The fact remains that the email says MO, and unless the original email some kind of "PS: the MO is for Montana" that TBC edited out (which we'd have no way of knowing, but I consider unlikely), that's all the info they have... so the mismatch between the email and the Easter egg is all TBC's doing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::I would say they both made the same mistake, and since Idaho is next to Montana, it's not an unreasonable assumption. Again, it's pure speculation on my part, so I'm not arguing we should necessarily change the article, I'd just say that it's likely the mistake originated not with the Bros. Chaps but with the e-mail authors.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:59, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The only flaw in that theory comes with the fact that, well, this is the internet. It's not like they have to be close, geographically, to each other or anything. The e-mail says "MO", and the Easter egg was of Montana. That, and the change to "Mike is a moron", suggests to me that TBC are the ones that made that goof. That said, we don't *know* the senders are kids, and it's silly to claim that *they* made the mistake and not TBC. They aren't perfect. They do make mistakes. And it seems to me that they fessed up to this one right away. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::My point is that we don't know who originally made the mistake, but that it's as likely the originators of the e-mail as the Brothers Chaps based on what little information we have.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 02:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Maybe the email address was from a domain that the senders owned, then TBC could have done a whois. Plus, Idaho and Montana are near each other. If one of the senders is from Idaho, and the other says MO, one can assume they mean Montana due to the placement of Idaho and Montana in the US (right next to each other)
::::::::::I fail to see what the relative locations of the states have to do with anything. My best friend lives in Canada, and I live in Oregon. They aren't especially close together, now, are they? I *really* don't see where TBC are so omnipotent that they're above making any kind of mistake like this (especially when *they confessed to it*; have you *seen* the updated Easter egg?), and you're just insulting the senders by suggesting *they* made the mistake. There's no "speculation" here. When TBC themselves correct a mistake with "Mike is a moron", it sounds to me like *they* made the mistake. Far, far more likely than a couple girls mistaking one of their home states for another, or TBC changing it for comedic purposes (especially considering the "we screwed up" Easter egg wasn't there originally). Jeez. -{{User:YK/sig}} 03:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll say this - I think that TBC acknowledging their error in the toon speaks for itself. If there's no solid evidence to the contrary, I'm going to say the submitters meant MO for Missouri. The absence of any real clues to the contrary make it speculative to assume THEY screwed up the abbreviation. The one piece of circumstantial evidence is the proximity of Idaho and Montana, but as was said above, this being the 21st century and all, that's no proof. They could be cousins living in different states, for example, of friends where one moved away. Who knows. It remains unnotable in the article. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lyd, being the first person named in the e-mail, is likely the sender. It is possible that he/she doesn't know the state abbreviation for his/her friend. However, based on the lack of other mistakes in the e-mail, I would say this person is well-educated, so let's give him/her some credit for that. And if Jules was able to proofread it, then let me say that there is no way he/she got the abbreviation wrong. We Montanans is smart folks. =] And anyone living in Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota or Mississippi wouldn't make the mistake, either. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Email song ==

What was there before was clearly wrong, but I'm not sure my version is any more right. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
: With my headphones, what I hear is "Strictly checkin' emails in 2008, strictly ?? Strong Bad fit to regulate." I'm not sure on the "strictlies" but I'm pretty much confident on "fit to regulate". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure it's "fit to regulate", too. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:46, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I thought he was saying "chicky chicky emails". {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I thought it was "I busy checkin'" {{User:The thing/sig}} 20:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Okay for Moms==

This is an inside reference to the garage sale email where Strong Bad says prounouncing "garage" like "garbage" is for mom's only.
: No, I think it's more Strong Bad trying to come up with ways to refer to people's posteriors to his own mother. Note that his list is "Okay for Mom" not "Okay for Mom'''s'''". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== "The bill itself uses eight trees' worth of paper" ==

Do you think this line and the stack of bills is a reference to [[Wikipedia:300-page iPhone bill|300-page iPhone bill]] which was popular in last August? I think it fits well with Strong Sad's new iTem. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:That line I think is a more general play on how the use of paper is equated to the number of trees used to make it, which would fit the entire "environment" theme. The same goes for the number of acres that are burned down for every time the Lappy is fired up. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with the parent. This definitely could be a reference to that phenomena. TBC are not limited to referencing one theme in an email -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Green computing? ==

Anyone here thinks the logo of the computer with the leaf is a reference to logos such as [[Wikipedia:Energy Star|this]]? I also suggest reading [[Wikipedia:Green computing]] just for the heck of it. Really interesting stuff. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, but a very vague one. It's an amalgam, designed to evoke the recurrent motifs of various official and unofficial environmental "certification" logos. And at the same time it pokes at the lip service that industry tends to pay to such issues, seeming to think that cliché rebranding (e.g., adding a leaf) is the most important piece of their strategy. The arc at the top does resemble Energy Star, but it probably resembles a lot of other things as well. While the leaf to me first recalled the logo for [http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=ford+hybrid+logo Ford's hybrid cars], but I'm sure there are plenty of other logos using a leaf for environmental purpose. Also, the blue arrow makes me think of an ecological diagram from a science text. You know, like the Water Cycle, or the Flow of Nutrients, or something like that. All very vague, but still evocative. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bills, Bills, Bills ==

Is that writing on one of the stacks of bills a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bills,_Bills,_Bills the Destiny's Child song]? — [[User:Kentyman|kentyman]] 20:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

: That was the first thing I thought of, and I don't know of any other reason they'd write it three times.

It wouldn't be the first time TBC have had bizarrely-phrased messages like that. [[User:Mr. Basso|Mr. Basso]] 06:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== 17 hours ==
has anyone waited 17 hours to see if strongbad will press the send key?--[[User:68.150.17.145|68.150.17.145]] 19:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think it's been seventeen hours yet. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I had the same thought, but I checked in the decompiler... there's nothing there to make something happen after 17 hours. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

==Best Video Game I've Ever Played==

Is this a running gag now? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Believe it or not, it IS. [[This is the (adjective) video game I've ever played|Check it out!]] {{User:Neox/sig}}

==Too Much AL==

yeah, we don't need two "Al Gore is a reference to Al Gore" explanations, so i'm sticking them together and moving them to real-world references --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Strong Sad's iPhone==

is strong sad's "sustainable mp3 player" an iphone, or maybe a ipod touch? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that it's an iPhone, because the iPhone has more icons on its home screen then the iPod Touch. That probably wasn't so clear, so if you look at this picure of an iPhone [http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index2.html], you will see it looks more like Strong Sad's then an iPod Touch [http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/gallery/index3.html] --{{User:Biscuithead1293/sig}} 01:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. The iPhone also has a silver border, while the iPod Touch has a black border. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 05:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
::Disagreed. The iPhone has a speaker, while Strong Sad's player doesn't. That's pretty essential for a phone.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

==More new graphics==

Did anybody notice that Strong Sad had more shading than usual? -Me.

== The SB with a deep voice ==
Strong Bad seems to have a deeper voice, but I'm not 100% sure because I haven't really watch SB Emails on my own Lappy, normally I watch on the desktop PC we have for recreation purposes and I think it may just be my speakers. Anyone else hearing it? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 01:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:I gave it a new title since I haven't gotten any responses. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 03:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mike's a what now? ==

I don't see the "Mike is a moron" Easter egg... and I doubt it's a cache issue, as I'm currently on a computer that has not watched the 'toon yet. I'll try cache-clearing anyway... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
: No dice. I'll... check it at home later? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Works fine for me, after cache-clearing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::: To comment on your History update, no, I usually don't. Well, not on my main computer. I usually don't check H*R from work, but I just had to see if this was true. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::: I just saw it on my Wii. You have to click the picture of the "moron". It turns red from its green and changes states. Do it.
::::: My work computer wasn't working at all. I can see it now just fine, and I didn't even have to mess with my cache. (It's all the better as I used to live in Missouri. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Environmental Activist ==
"The exclamation "Al Gore's beard!" is reference to 45th Vice President of the United States and noted environmental activist Al Gore, who after losing the 2000 presidential campaign famously grew a beard and went into seclusion for a short period of time before refocusing on the environment"
:Al Gore is focused on the environment? Oh, wait, you must have been joking. Good one. --{{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}
::He won the Nobel Prize for it, so.......yeah. I thinks they be serious, even though he has a huge electric bill. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 03:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I thinks they be seriously fooled by his eco-blabbing hypocrisy. My point is, he's known for being an "environmental activist," when really he doesn't give a crap about the polar bears. But hey, seein' as how this whole website is an attempt to catalogue apparently meaningless facts about an internet cartoon, I guess there's no sense in you letting my political views stop you from putting whatever you want about Al Gore on the article. :) --{{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}}
::::I wonder how he got the Prize, I had a buddy in High School that searched the internet for like 3 hours and found copies of his gas and electric bills for 1 month. I think it exceeded like $30,000(US) combined. I have never been big about the "Eco-hype", I recycle and thats about it. As for it being a valid reference, TBC probably think he is an activist because of his Nobel, that's why they had someone say it. Adding it here does not reflect the views of members, just shows the most likely reference to the real-world. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 03:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Do we know his house isn't on solar? Or wind? $30,000 of wind is still just wind.
::::::This isn't really what the talk page is for. Beyond establishing what they said and its potential implications in the cartoon, the rest of this would seem to be more fitting for the forum.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, Gore being a "noted environmental activist" is factual, regardless of your politics or opinions on his "green-ness". The fact as quoted above is not POV. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, but the forum's full of "LOL best snemail ever but it would be even better if he sang a song about the sibbie again then h%r returend his fondue pot"
:::::::::Well then, be the motivator for change. Will posts continue in that direction? YOU DECIDE... Oh, and don't forget to sign your posts.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 06:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== GreenPeace Logo ==

*GreenCheat's logo resembles that of Greenpeace.
Does it? It seems like a reasonable claim, but I can't find any evidence to back it up. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

==Relevance==
this might be the most culturally relvant email TBC have ever done. just puttin' that out there. {{unsigned|75.31.77.54|03:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)}}
:The forums are better suited for this type of comment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

: Its almost worth a mention, I think. TBC have said they don't answer emails that have any cultural relevance. However, environmentalism is hardly a new thing or especially relevant right now -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 21:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Greencheat ==

Can anyone tell me what exactly the Greencheat logo says? The top of it's obscured by The Recycled Paper 2.0. (More importantly, what exactly is it a spoof of? And shouldn't this go under "Goofs", come to think of it?)--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 22:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:environment

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:38:17 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /**/Greencheat

Talk:pizza joint

Tenka Muteki — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:46:58 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /**/Indiana Jones reference?

==Dancing homestar==
Ok, the easter egg looks like nothing more than to plug the broken animation from the end of [[mile]]. It's pretty much exactly the same animation. Thoughts? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 01:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
:Don't forget Cheatsa Parties. There were also those in mile. 01:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC){{User:Mee/sig}}
::Wow, looking at that animation, I have to say that they're probably the same. Here's my theory: TBC were going to make the Cheatsa Party/[http://www.inthe80s.com/toys/pizzaparty.shtml Pizza Party] Easter egg for mile, but didn't end up having time to do it. Notice that there are two separate links that lead to the same image of The Cheat eating the pizza, whereas it would make sense for one to link to the Pizza Party Easter egg.

::My theory is speculation, but I think it's very reasonable to say that the two instances are connected. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Maybe it's just me, but looking at the afformentioned broken animation, the movements seem to match up perfectly to the Pizza Party song Homestar sings, adding even more plausibility to your theory. -{{User:YK/sig}} 03:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== Pizza and Grill ==

I vote '''Decline'''. But on what?

Someone will eventually claim that since a large number of people can fit into the KOT's grill and have a pizza joint party there, that it must come from a Warner Brothers cartoon in which Daffy or someone opens a fridge or oven and there's stock film of a party going on inside it; or that it comes from something similar held in Snoopy's doghouse.

On ''that''. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 01:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

==Hang on a sec...==
Does this mean that Strong Bad has finally hit it with the ladies? [[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]]

Debatable. The ladies were there for The Cheat. Strong Bad just moved in on his action. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== Floppy Disk Container is not an inside reference... ==

The name on the container is actually from the a game for PC and PS1 made in 1995 here's the wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(video_game)
-CujoSR First Post but long time lurker...
:The floppy disk container has [[-'d]] written on it, as a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. ''That'' is the inside reference I'm talking about. [[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure CujoSR is right. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== Background ==

Hey, is there a new background in this email? Because I don't remember seeing "trees" like that before. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I think you're right — I only remember seeing the ellipsoidal trees, which were used as recently as the last sbemail. I bet this is the new trees' debut! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== virtualpizz.biz ==

Looks like virtualpizz.biz has become official. The login page now redirects you to this SB e-mail. The domain is registered to some dude from Austin, Texas, so I'm guessing the Brothers Chaps aren't behind this, unless they recruited a partner! --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, it's a fan — {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=pizza_joint&diff=500893&oldid=500892 this}} is the original message he had in the Easter egg. He sure registered that domain name and got the site up fast! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== One "Pizz Point" for a Cow Lamp? ==

<nowiki>When Strong Bad adds the Cow Lamp to his Virtualpizz.biz room, only one "point" is deducted from his total. In garage sale, Homestar says "You wouldn't get much for that thing anyways. It's not even a real cow." Do you think the cheap price is a reference?

Also, this is the first time I have done anything here, so I'm new to this.</nowiki>

== Indiana Jones reference? ==

"I belong in a museum!" seems to be a reference to ''Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade'', when he tells the villain who stole the Cross of Coronado "it belongs in a museum!" (Twice, actually.)--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 05:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Limozeen vs. sloshy

Tenka Muteki — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:44:59 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /**/Scrolling Background

==Transcript==
How are we gonna do this one? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:No idea at all, which is pretty much why all I put there was a template. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 07:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

::How about a different section for each song, with the exception of the original version of Because It's Midnite (we can just link to [[Because It's Midnite]], assuming they're same (I think they are)). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::: I own the CD and I'm not sure they're identical exactly, but they're definitely close enough if they're not. I can compare when I find said CD. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I guess there's nothing more to sloshy's song than was in the QotW. So, we can just link to [[sloshy]] for the original version of that song too. Also, it looks like perhaps we should put the original lyrics to "We Don't Even Really Care About You" on [[sloshy]] — that seems like the best place for them, rather than creating a separate page at [[We Don't Even Really Care About You]]... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::BTW, the reason I thought it might not have been the original was because the lead singer doesn't seem to have Larry's overexaggerated voice, but it's like that on the CD too. Maybe that was pre-Larry's-overexaggerated-voice-being-a-standard. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Limozeen_vs._Sloshy&diff=499198&oldid=499197 This}} looks great as a format to start with. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't think it ''is'' the same one as on the CD. Trust me, it's different. Lyrically, it's the same, but the sound is different. I'm not a music expert or anything, so I can't toss out any terms or instruments, but it IS different. I'd bet my (forum) account on it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I listened to both together. I didn't listen all the way through, but the intros were 100% identical. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'm currently playing both versions simultaneously. There is no difference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Waaaait a minute, are you all suggesting that the CD version (played by LIMOZEEN) is the same as the one here (played by SLOSHY)? They're completely different musically and the only similarities between the lead vocals are because they're both Matt Chapman. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 13:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::No, he's talking about the music you hear when you click "hear the original". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::It sounds to me like the sound quality was reduced. It may be higher than it normally is for the toons, but CD quality it ain't. If you're talking mp3, CD quality is at about 128 kbps (that's KiloBits Per Second) and this sounds like it may be somewhere around half that rate. Which, I think, is consistent with it being converted from stereophonic (stereo) to monaural (mono). {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::The audio quality in this toon is 22kHz, mono, 32kbit/s MP3 (cf: CD audio, which is 44kHz, stereo, 16bit lossless - comparable to MP3 at around 128 or 192 kbps. Also cf: [[bike thief]]'s audio is 11kHz, mono, 16kbit/s MP3). Just throwing that pointless piece of trivia out there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

==Members of sloshy==
Shouldnt there be a page about the members of sloshy? Or is that to the least importance. {{User:Foop/sig}}Foop 12:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, there's not much more known about them yet, but [[sloshy]] could probably be updated, at very least with a picture of their cartoon versions. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

==Length==
Do you think it's worth a Remark that both songs are exactly the same length (1:35)? It just seems like it might be interesting, or possibly even deliberate. [[User:69.70.248.73|69.70.248.73]] 12:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I also notice that Because, It's Midnite is missing a verse; if that verse was there, they would no longer be the same length. I don't know how intentional it is, but hey, always open to discussion on the Talk page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Chucks and not Sneakers ==

The left foot has a [[wikipedia:Chuck Taylor All-Stars|chuck]] on, not a sneaker. I'm pretty sure it is but just to be cautious: anyone dis/agree? {{User:Punching Kittens/sig}} 19:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:Good thing we have [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars|a page]] about them. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::Then it's good times for everybody! {{User:Punching Kittens/sig}} 23:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Music Styles ==

I dunno about anyone else, but for the Limozeen versions I got a huge Zeppelin vibe from the first and a Blue Oyster Cult vibe from the other. Just throwing it out there.

:Strange. I thought the Limozeen cover of We Don't Really Even Care sounded a lot like Guns N' Roses, and the sloshy cover of Because It's Midnite sounded a lot like a generic alternative rock band.

==Rrolling the arrrs==

I noticed that the Limozeen song seems to roll the Rs even when there aren't any. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

:I really doubt that's a 'distortion', I think he's just trilling.
..
Wait, there's a second H*R CD???

== Scrolling Background ==

Don't you think the seam in the space background counts as a real-world reference? I mean, if you look at the repeating backgrounds used in old Hanna-Barbera cartoons (e.g. Scooby-Doo), you'll notice that you can see the seams in those as well...and "But They're In Space!" ''is'' a parody of those kinds of old cartoons.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

500 The Cheats

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:54:14 GMT

Tenka Muteki: I repeat: it's still a reference, regardless of how it's spelled, seeing how it was a spoken line to begin with.

{{toonnav|Shorts|500cheats|Strong Bad is a Bad Guy|Sbemail 150?!?}}
[[Image:500Cheats.PNG|thumb|Meh x 500]]

Lots and lots of The Cheat.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 13, 2006

'''Running time:''' 0:32

'''Page title:''' A-Lotsa the Cheatsa!

==Transcript==

''{While music plays with The Cheat's mumblings serving as the only lyrics, various drawings of The Cheat flash in a box in the middle of the screen. Lots of smaller The Cheat drawings are seen in the background. The Cheats in the background eventually turn around and upside-down in time to the music. Then the background flashes several colors, and the box with the main The Cheat drawings bounces and moves around the screen in time to the music. It finally returns to the center as the song ends with "done." written in it, and the background completely black. "back" and "do'gain?" appear below.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the rapidly changing drawing to see a ghosted image of The Cheat appear over them.

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is the first toon without any dialogue.
*There are 536 frames altogether; however, 36 of these frames are the beginning "loading" screen and the "done" screen at the end. Each frame that isn't a "loading" or a "done" screen contains one The Cheat; therefore, there are exactly 500 The Cheats.
*There are 407 The Cheats in the background, including ones partially covered by the border or occasionally obscured by the center box.
**Including the The Cheats visible off to the sides of the screen (when viewing the Flash file), the total number of The Cheats is equal to 480.

===Remarks===
*Some of the drawings of The Cheat look similar to his old [[Mario Paint Character Variations|Mario Paint]] version.

===Goofs===
*The "[[Integral Article|The]]" is not capitalized in the page title, even though it should be, since it's part of The Cheat's name.
*The description in the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons Menu]] misspells "shimmy" as "shimmie".

===Glitches===
[[Image:500thecheats glitch.PNG|thumb|Toons Menu glitch]]
*Originally, playing the toon right from the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons Menu]] caused the Flash file to appear straight on the menu. Once The Cheats in the background started to move, they sometimes exceeded the black borders and covered the Toons Menu. This was fixed later in the day.

===Inside References===
* The page title, "A-Lotsa the Cheatsa!", is the second use of "Cheatsa", the first being the Cheatsa Parties Easter egg in [[mile]].
* The drum loop used in this short is almost identical to that used in the [[Theme Song Video]].
* The background used (and the movement thereof) in this is reminiscent of a clip in the [[The Cheat Theme Song]] video.
* The phrase "shimmie and shake" in the [[Toons Menu]] description is a reference to [[20X6 vs. 1936]], where [[Old-Timey Homestar]] tells [[Stinkoman]] how to dance.

==External Links==
* [[HR:500cheats.html|watch "500 The Cheats"]]
* [[HR:500cheats.swf|view the Flash file for "500 The Cheats"]]
* [[Forum:7038| forum thread re: "500 The Cheats"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]{{subtitlesLinks|500cheats}}

20X6 vs. 1936

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:52:29 GMT

Tenka Muteki: Even if the spelling is different, that doesn't change the fact that it's refference. I'll conceed to the spelling, but I see nothing wrong with the addition.

{{toonnav|Shorts|20x6vs1936|The System is Down|Arcade Game}}
[[Image:20X6 versus 1936.png|thumb|right|220px|"Just kinda shimmie and shake."]]

Stinkoman meets The Homestar Runner and asks him for a challenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Planet K]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 17, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:55

'''Page Title:''' CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Transcript ==
''{Open to Stinkoman training in the field.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{punches the air}'' Hah hah hah hah hah hah hah! ''{kicks the air}'' Hya hya hya hya hya hya hya!

''{The Homestar Runner walks up, kicking his can. The can taps Stinkoman's foot.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Waah! ''{jumps}'' Who are you?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm the Homestar Runner.

'''STINKOMAN:''' That name is dumb. It sounds like it is soooo dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, what's your moniker?

'''STINKOMAN:''' I go by Stinkoman. That's the name of talented fighter if ever there was one.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, if you say so. Would you care for some dry meal? ''{pulls out a bag of dry meal which makes a dry wheezing sound}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' No way! I'm training for fighting, or maybe a challenge. So what's that thing you're kicking around?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, that's just an old can of water soup. I kick it around ever since ''{sadly}'' my dog worshed away in the storm of '28.

'''STINKOMAN:''' You seem like you might not be from around here. Do you have any special powers?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I can play a mean worshboard. ''{pulls out a washboard that says "worsh it" and plays it}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{flinches}'' What is that? ''What'' is ''that?'' Some kinda robot?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's a robit?

'''STINKOMAN:''' You don't know what a robot is? Hahaha! You're so dumb! Hahaha! Dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, go soak your fat head.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Are you asking for a CHALLEENGE? ''{starts to power up}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes sir. Yes sir I am.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{jumps high into the air}'' DOUBLE DEUCE!!!!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pulls out a pea shooter and shoots at him}'' Ptooie. ''{hits Stinkoman in the eye}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{falls to the ground}'' Ow! My eye! It's like, my eye! It hurts so bad!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, folks, you know what that means. Now I'll do a dance. ''{starts dancing}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hahahaha! That dance cracks me up! Hahahaha! You gotta teach me!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just kinda shimmy and shake.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Yeah! Now I've got it! ''{starts dancing}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stands on one leg}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumping up in the air}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{upside down}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

''{Fade to black}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

''{The words "AGAIN?" and "back." appear.}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*The Homestar Runner's "worsh board" was a common, improvised musical instrument in the nineteenth century, typically used for percussion in jug-band music.

===Remarks===
*This cartoon shows that [[Old Timey]] takes place in 1936.
*The [[Old-Timey]] scratch line behaves irregularly:
**Sometimes it sticks out of The Homestar Runner's body; other times it doesn't even reach the edge.
**There is no scratch line on The Homestar Runner's feet, hat propeller, or worshboard.
**The scratchline changes rotation with the rest of The Homestar Runner's body while he is dancing (see image at top of page). Given how scratch lines are formed, it is entirely impossible for it to be anything but perfectly vertical.
**During part of the toon the dry meal sack has a scratch line (independent of The Homestar Runner's), but for the rest of the toon it does not.

===Inside References===
*Stinkoman asking "''What is that?'' Some kinda robot?" is a possible reference to the Strong Bad Email [[some kinda robot]].
*The page title, "CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!", refers to the Stinkoman theme song, which contains the words "Challenge and fighting and fighting and challenge tonight..."
*The Homestar Runner kicking a can around is a reference to the series of cartoons in [[Kick the Can]].

===Real-World References===
*The kicking attack Stinkoman practices bears a strong resemblance to [[wikipedia:Chun Li|Chun Li]]'s lightning kick attack from [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter II|the Street Fighter 2 series]].
*A hurricane struck Florida in September 1928 and is often referred to as "The Storm of '28" or the [http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/Deadliest_Costliest.shtml "Lake Okeechobee" hurricane].

===Fast Forward===
*The phrase "shimmie[sic] and shake" was later used for the [[Toons Menu]] description of [[500 The Cheats]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Ooh, a nice little title screen there.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, these are always fun to do. Mixing the weird, different universes of the Homestar Runner world.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yes. This was the first—Was this the first thing that Stro—Stinkoman was in after the japanese cartoon email?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, I think so. This was the first fleshing out of his character a little bit. ''{pauses}'' I like how Old-Timey Homestar Runner has scratchies only on him—

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' —and his voice.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' And—and his audio?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I think Old-Timey Homestar Runner is my favorite character.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' What do you think Old-Timey Homestar Runner's dog's name was, Mike?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Um...

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Old something?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Old Eyelids? Cause he had eyelids? ''{Matt laughs}'' His eyelids were really big, actually.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Okay. They droop down off his face?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Instead of having big droopy jowls, he had big droopy eyelashes. Wait, what did I say? Eyelids, not eyelashes.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. You think there's an anime name for those mushroomy things? Yeah, it's been like that.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Really?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That's terrible. It looks really bad.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' An anime name for the mushrooms?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I do think there's a name for them, but I can't think of what it might be right now.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' There's the snot— There's the snot bubble. There's the tear that comes up the side of your face. And then there's the weird, angry mushroom when you're laughing.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' They mean something to someone, but not to me.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Get down.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' It's like the end of the pale green pants.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Hello!

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' And... keep playing here. We're gonna fade it out.

===Real World References===
*The Pale Green Pants are from a children's story called "What Was I Scared Of?" by [[Wikipedia:Dr. Seuss|Dr. Seuss]].
*"The tear that comes up the side of your face" is correctly referred to as a [[Wikipedia:Sweat drop|sweat drop]] and is a common element of anime, though it almost always goes ''down'' one's face.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.html|watch "20X6 vs. 1936"]]
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.swf|view the Flash file for "20X6 vs. 1936"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|20x6vs1936}}

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Old-Timey]][[Category:20X6]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:50:20 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Inside References */ Changed spelling in refference.

{{mamnav|12|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2|Version 11.2|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2|Version 13.2}}

[[Image:thnikkafied-machine.png|thumb|"Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied!"]]

The Thnikkaman starts a band, Strong Bad's prank call ends in song, and Homestar threatens himself again.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/The [[Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, April 26, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:17

'''Page Title:''' Marzipan's Answering Machine

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

==Transcript==
=== Marzipan's Greeting ===
'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, yeah. Leave a message.

=== Message 5 ===
'''SINGERS:''' ''{singing}'' You Got a Call from the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.} ''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, Marzipan. It's the Thnikkaman! Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied! I was just calling up to see if you wanted to join my Thnikkaband. I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums. Now all I need is some Thnikkagirls to dance around in some go-go boots. All you gotta do is shimmy-shake a little bit to the left, and, if time permits, shimmy-shake a little bit to the right. Oh, and in regards to your question, "can you have some?", yeah, shut up, kid!

'''SINGERS:''' ''{singing}'' Here hang-ups the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Errrrrrrrooom... click!

=== Message 4 ===

'''STRONG BAD:''' Marzipan, look: this is Goatface. I have a goat for a face. Like, not that I have a goat's head for a face, or that my head is a goat's head — like, my face is an ''entire goat''. So, anyways, I was calling you ups 'cause I wanted to join your Goatface Club! Since you've got quite a goat face yourself, I figured you'd be the go-to guy, or gal. It's hard to tell with that goat face of yours. Anyways, my number is ''{imitates a goat}'' eeeeeh-uhhh! So gimme a call back! We can compare goat faces, though I can't imagine... that yours... your- is- pret-... you're ugly. Marzipan, this is Strong Bad, and you're ugly.

=== Message 3 ===

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Marzipan, this is not Marzipan, just calling to leave you a mean prank call so that you don't get your feelings hurt when other people prank call you. Um, here's the prank: we all know that hair color is not your true color.

=== Message 2 ===

''{Every time Strong Bad repeats a phrase, he imitates a different voice in an attempt to make it sound like a crowd.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! This is all your friends! All your friends! All your friends! All of your friends! Calling you! Calling you! We're calling! We're all calling you! Calling you! To tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! And you owe us some money! You owe us some money! Yeah, you owe me ten bucks! Yeah, you owe me twelve dollars! You owe me twelve dollars! You owe us some money! ''{falsetto}'' And you said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{falsetto}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{falsetto}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{hand claps begin in time to Strong Bad's repetition}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{a drum beat with a bass pattern begins}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{cymbal crash}''

=== Message 1 ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{angry}'' Oh, hello, Marzipan! You've got the H-star, you got the H-star-R, and boy, have I got a bee in my bonnet! So, what, I gotta hear from Strong Bad now that you have an "in" at the Goatface Club? Were you even going to mention it to old Boyfriend Dan? That's — that's me. Boyfriend Dan. You know good and well that I've dreamt of being in a Goatface Club ever since I was a moderately-sized baby. And you said you'd bake us a cake! And who's this Boyfriend Dan I keep hearing about?! Well, you tell him to watch his back, 'cause the old Goatface Killa is on the loose! Now, that's me. Now I'm the Goatface Killa.

== Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Goatface3.PNG|thumb|a Goatface]]
*Click on the tape holder during Strong Bad's ranting to see what a "Goatface" really isn't.
**First it's a human body with a goat face, drawn on a piece of lined paper.
**Click on the paper to cross it out with the message: "no!"
**Click it again to see another example of what a goatface isn't: a person with goat's head, neck and front legs sticking out of his head.
**Click on it to cross it out with the message: "nope!"
**Click a fifth time to see a [[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|true goatface]]: a person with an entire [[goat]] for a face, with the neck connected to the middle of the goat's body.
**Click the goatface again to see its majesty, with the message: "genius!"
*Click the tape holder at the end of Homestar's message to see a [[milk carton]] with the following info on it:
<pre>BOYFRIEND DAN
BEWARE!!
{a silhouette of Homestar with goat horns and a goatee}
"GOATFACE KILLA"
IS ON THE LOOSE!

LAST SEEN AS A
MODERATELY
SIZED BABY</pre>

== Fun Facts ==

===Remarks===
*When this answering machine was released, it had the old HTML links at the bottom of the page instead of the new Flash file. This has since been corrected.
*This is the first and so-far only time Strong Bad used an [[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|alias]] and admitted at the end it was him.

===Inside References===
*Homestar's message contains yet another reference to [[Dan]].
*The Thnikkaman was first introduced in the Strong Bad E-mail [[monument]].
*The milk carton with the silhouette ad was last seen in [[kind of cool]], when Strong Bad was looking for Senor Cardgage.
*The Thnikkaman speaking of shaking to the left and right might be a reference to what Coach Z said in [[2 emails]].
*The Thnikkaman reffering to "shimmy-shaking" is reference to [[Old-Timey Homestar]]'s dance instructions from [[20X6 vs. 1936]].
*"Goatface" is a [[Names ending in -face|name ending in -face]].

===Real-World References===

*Homestar's mention of a "Goatface Killa" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Ghostface Killah|Ghostface Killah]], a member of Coach Z's favorite rap group, the [[Wikipedia:Wu-Tang Clan|Wu-Tang Clan]].
*The "you'd bake us a cake" line sounds very similar to the chorus from [[Wikipedia:System of a Down|System of a Down's]] 'Prison Song.'
*The Thnikkaman's "I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums" line is very similar to the manner in which Dick Halloran (the chef from ''[[Wikipedia:The Shining (film)|The Shining]]'', played by Scatman Crothers) dictates the contents of the freezer and pantry.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:answer12.html|watch "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[HR:answer12.swf|view the Flash file for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[Forum:2965|forum thread re: "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]

{{Marzipan's Answering Machine}}

{{subtitlesLinks|answer12}}

[[Category:Marzipan's Answering Machine| 12]]

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:36:45 GMT

Tenka Muteki: Added a reference, changed spelling to match the one from the Toons Menu description of 500 The Cheats.

{{mamnav|12|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2|Version 11.2|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2|Version 13.2}}

[[Image:thnikkafied-machine.png|thumb|"Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied!"]]

The Thnikkaman starts a band, Strong Bad's prank call ends in song, and Homestar threatens himself again.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/The [[Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, April 26, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:17

'''Page Title:''' Marzipan's Answering Machine

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

==Transcript==
=== Marzipan's Greeting ===
'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, yeah. Leave a message.

=== Message 5 ===
'''SINGERS:''' ''{singing}'' You Got a Call from the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.} ''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, Marzipan. It's the Thnikkaman! Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied! I was just calling up to see if you wanted to join my Thnikkaband. I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums. Now all I need is some Thnikkagirls to dance around in some go-go boots. All you gotta do is shimmie-shake a little bit to the left, and, if time permits, shimmy-shake a little bit to the right. Oh, and in regards to your question, "can you have some?", yeah, shut up, kid!

'''SINGERS:''' ''{singing}'' Here hang-ups the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Errrrrrrrooom... click!

=== Message 4 ===

'''STRONG BAD:''' Marzipan, look: this is Goatface. I have a goat for a face. Like, not that I have a goat's head for a face, or that my head is a goat's head — like, my face is an ''entire goat''. So, anyways, I was calling you ups 'cause I wanted to join your Goatface Club! Since you've got quite a goat face yourself, I figured you'd be the go-to guy, or gal. It's hard to tell with that goat face of yours. Anyways, my number is ''{imitates a goat}'' eeeeeh-uhhh! So gimme a call back! We can compare goat faces, though I can't imagine... that yours... your- is- pret-... you're ugly. Marzipan, this is Strong Bad, and you're ugly.

=== Message 3 ===

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Marzipan, this is not Marzipan, just calling to leave you a mean prank call so that you don't get your feelings hurt when other people prank call you. Um, here's the prank: we all know that hair color is not your true color.

=== Message 2 ===

''{Every time Strong Bad repeats a phrase, he imitates a different voice in an attempt to make it sound like a crowd.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! This is all your friends! All your friends! All your friends! All of your friends! Calling you! Calling you! We're calling! We're all calling you! Calling you! To tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! And you owe us some money! You owe us some money! Yeah, you owe me ten bucks! Yeah, you owe me twelve dollars! You owe me twelve dollars! You owe us some money! ''{falsetto}'' And you said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{falsetto}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{falsetto}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{hand claps begin in time to Strong Bad's repetition}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{a drum beat with a bass pattern begins}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{cymbal crash}''

=== Message 1 ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{angry}'' Oh, hello, Marzipan! You've got the H-star, you got the H-star-R, and boy, have I got a bee in my bonnet! So, what, I gotta hear from Strong Bad now that you have an "in" at the Goatface Club? Were you even going to mention it to old Boyfriend Dan? That's — that's me. Boyfriend Dan. You know good and well that I've dreamt of being in a Goatface Club ever since I was a moderately-sized baby. And you said you'd bake us a cake! And who's this Boyfriend Dan I keep hearing about?! Well, you tell him to watch his back, 'cause the old Goatface Killa is on the loose! Now, that's me. Now I'm the Goatface Killa.

== Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Goatface3.PNG|thumb|a Goatface]]
*Click on the tape holder during Strong Bad's ranting to see what a "Goatface" really isn't.
**First it's a human body with a goat face, drawn on a piece of lined paper.
**Click on the paper to cross it out with the message: "no!"
**Click it again to see another example of what a goatface isn't: a person with goat's head, neck and front legs sticking out of his head.
**Click on it to cross it out with the message: "nope!"
**Click a fifth time to see a [[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|true goatface]]: a person with an entire [[goat]] for a face, with the neck connected to the middle of the goat's body.
**Click the goatface again to see its majesty, with the message: "genius!"
*Click the tape holder at the end of Homestar's message to see a [[milk carton]] with the following info on it:
<pre>BOYFRIEND DAN
BEWARE!!
{a silhouette of Homestar with goat horns and a goatee}
"GOATFACE KILLA"
IS ON THE LOOSE!

LAST SEEN AS A
MODERATELY
SIZED BABY</pre>

== Fun Facts ==

===Remarks===
*When this answering machine was released, it had the old HTML links at the bottom of the page instead of the new Flash file. This has since been corrected.
*This is the first and so-far only time Strong Bad used an [[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|alias]] and admitted at the end it was him.

===Inside References===
*Homestar's message contains yet another reference to [[Dan]].
*The Thnikkaman was first introduced in the Strong Bad E-mail [[monument]].
*The milk carton with the silhouette ad was last seen in [[kind of cool]], when Strong Bad was looking for Senor Cardgage.
*The Thnikkaman speaking of shaking to the left and right might be a reference to what Coach Z said in [[2 emails]].
*The Thnikkaman reffering to "shimmie-shaking" is reference to [[Old-Timey Homestar]]'s dance instructions from [[20X6 vs. 1936]].
*"Goatface" is a [[Names ending in -face|name ending in -face]].

===Real-World References===

*Homestar's mention of a "Goatface Killa" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Ghostface Killah|Ghostface Killah]], a member of Coach Z's favorite rap group, the [[Wikipedia:Wu-Tang Clan|Wu-Tang Clan]].
*The "you'd bake us a cake" line sounds very similar to the chorus from [[Wikipedia:System of a Down|System of a Down's]] 'Prison Song.'
*The Thnikkaman's "I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums" line is very similar to the manner in which Dick Halloran (the chef from ''[[Wikipedia:The Shining (film)|The Shining]]'', played by Scatman Crothers) dictates the contents of the freezer and pantry.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:answer12.html|watch "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[HR:answer12.swf|view the Flash file for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[Forum:2965|forum thread re: "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]

{{Marzipan's Answering Machine}}

{{subtitlesLinks|answer12}}

[[Category:Marzipan's Answering Machine| 12]]

500 The Cheats

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:31:25 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Inside References */ Added a reference from 20X6 vs. 1936.

{{toonnav|Shorts|500cheats|Strong Bad is a Bad Guy|Sbemail 150?!?}}
[[Image:500Cheats.PNG|thumb|Meh x 500]]

Lots and lots of The Cheat.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 13, 2006

'''Running time:''' 0:32

'''Page title:''' A-Lotsa the Cheatsa!

==Transcript==

''{While music plays with The Cheat's mumblings serving as the only lyrics, various drawings of The Cheat flash in a box in the middle of the screen. Lots of smaller The Cheat drawings are seen in the background. The Cheats in the background eventually turn around and upside-down in time to the music. Then the background flashes several colors, and the box with the main The Cheat drawings bounces and moves around the screen in time to the music. It finally returns to the center as the song ends with "done." written in it, and the background completely black. "back" and "do'gain?" appear below.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the rapidly changing drawing to see a ghosted image of The Cheat appear over them.

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is the first toon without any dialogue.
*There are 536 frames altogether; however, 36 of these frames are the beginning "loading" screen and the "done" screen at the end. Each frame that isn't a "loading" or a "done" screen contains one The Cheat; therefore, there are exactly 500 The Cheats.
*There are 407 The Cheats in the background, including ones partially covered by the border or occasionally obscured by the center box.
**Including the The Cheats visible off to the sides of the screen (when viewing the Flash file), the total number of The Cheats is equal to 480.

===Remarks===
*Some of the drawings of The Cheat look similar to his old [[Mario Paint Character Variations|Mario Paint]] version.

===Goofs===
*The "[[Integral Article|The]]" is not capitalized in the page title, even though it should be, since it's part of The Cheat's name.

===Glitches===
[[Image:500thecheats glitch.PNG|thumb|Toons Menu glitch]]
*Originally, playing the toon right from the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons Menu]] caused the Flash file to appear straight on the menu. Once The Cheats in the background started to move, they sometimes exceeded the black borders and covered the Toons Menu. This was fixed later in the day.

===Inside References===
* The page title, "A-Lotsa the Cheatsa!", is the second use of "Cheatsa", the first being the Cheatsa Parties Easter egg in [[mile]].
* The drum loop used in this short is almost identical to that used in the [[Theme Song Video]].
* The background used (and the movement thereof) in this is reminiscent of a clip in the [[The Cheat Theme Song]] video.
* The phrase "shimmie and shake" in the [[Toons Menu]] description is a reference to [[20X6 vs. 1936]], where [[Old-Timey Homestar]] tells [[Stinkoman]] how to dance.

==External Links==
* [[HR:500cheats.html|watch "500 The Cheats"]]
* [[HR:500cheats.swf|view the Flash file for "500 The Cheats"]]
* [[Forum:7038| forum thread re: "500 The Cheats"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]{{subtitlesLinks|500cheats}}

20X6 vs. 1936

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:28:28 GMT

Tenka Muteki: Added a "Fast Forward" to further explain this.

{{toonnav|Shorts|20x6vs1936|The System is Down|Arcade Game}}
[[Image:20X6 versus 1936.png|thumb|right|220px|"Just kinda shimmie and shake."]]

Stinkoman meets The Homestar Runner and asks him for a challenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Planet K]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 17, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:55

'''Page Title:''' CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Transcript ==
''{Open to Stinkoman training in the field.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{punches the air}'' Hah hah hah hah hah hah hah! ''{kicks the air}'' Hya hya hya hya hya hya hya!

''{The Homestar Runner walks up, kicking his can. The can taps Stinkoman's foot.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Waah! ''{jumps}'' Who are you?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm the Homestar Runner.

'''STINKOMAN:''' That name is dumb. It sounds like it is soooo dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, what's your moniker?

'''STINKOMAN:''' I go by Stinkoman. That's the name of talented fighter if ever there was one.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, if you say so. Would you care for some dry meal? ''{pulls out a bag of dry meal which makes a dry wheezing sound}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' No way! I'm training for fighting, or maybe a challenge. So what's that thing you're kicking around?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, that's just an old can of water soup. I kick it around ever since ''{sadly}'' my dog worshed away in the storm of '28.

'''STINKOMAN:''' You seem like you might not be from around here. Do you have any special powers?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I can play a mean worshboard. ''{pulls out a washboard that says "worsh it" and plays it}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{flinches}'' What is that? ''What'' is ''that?'' Some kinda robot?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's a robit?

'''STINKOMAN:''' You don't know what a robot is? Hahaha! You're so dumb! Hahaha! Dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, go soak your fat head.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Are you asking for a CHALLEENGE? ''{starts to power up}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes sir. Yes sir I am.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{jumps high into the air}'' DOUBLE DEUCE!!!!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pulls out a pea shooter and shoots at him}'' Ptooie. ''{hits Stinkoman in the eye}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{falls to the ground}'' Ow! My eye! It's like, my eye! It hurts so bad!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, folks, you know what that means. Now I'll do a dance. ''{starts dancing}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hahahaha! That dance cracks me up! Hahahaha! You gotta teach me!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just kinda shimmie and shake.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Yeah! Now I've got it! ''{starts dancing}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stands on one leg}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumping up in the air}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{upside down}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

''{Fade to black}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

''{The words "AGAIN?" and "back." appear.}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*The Homestar Runner's "worsh board" was a common, improvised musical instrument in the nineteenth century, typically used for percussion in jug-band music.

===Remarks===
*This cartoon shows that [[Old Timey]] takes place in 1936.
*The [[Old-Timey]] scratch line behaves irregularly:
**Sometimes it sticks out of The Homestar Runner's body; other times it doesn't even reach the edge.
**There is no scratch line on The Homestar Runner's feet, hat propeller, or worshboard.
**The scratchline changes rotation with the rest of The Homestar Runner's body while he is dancing (see image at top of page). Given how scratch lines are formed, it is entirely impossible for it to be anything but perfectly vertical.
**During part of the toon the dry meal sack has a scratch line (independent of The Homestar Runner's), but for the rest of the toon it does not.

===Inside References===
*Stinkoman asking "''What is that?'' Some kinda robot?" is a possible reference to the Strong Bad Email [[some kinda robot]].
*The page title, "CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!", refers to the Stinkoman theme song, which contains the words "Challenge and fighting and fighting and challenge tonight..."
*The Homestar Runner kicking a can around is a reference to the series of cartoons in [[Kick the Can]].

===Real-World References===
*The kicking attack Stinkoman practices bears a strong resemblance to [[wikipedia:Chun Li|Chun Li]]'s lightning kick attack from [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter II|the Street Fighter 2 series]].
*A hurricane struck Florida in September 1928 and is often referred to as "The Storm of '28" or the [http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/Deadliest_Costliest.shtml "Lake Okeechobee" hurricane].

===Fast Forward===
*The phrase "shimmie and shake" was later used for the [[Toons Menu]] description of [[500 The Cheats]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Ooh, a nice little title screen there.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, these are always fun to do. Mixing the weird, different universes of the Homestar Runner world.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yes. This was the first—Was this the first thing that Stro—Stinkoman was in after the japanese cartoon email?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, I think so. This was the first fleshing out of his character a little bit. ''{pauses}'' I like how Old-Timey Homestar Runner has scratchies only on him—

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' —and his voice.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' And—and his audio?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I think Old-Timey Homestar Runner is my favorite character.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' What do you think Old-Timey Homestar Runner's dog's name was, Mike?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Um...

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Old something?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Old Eyelids? Cause he had eyelids? ''{Matt laughs}'' His eyelids were really big, actually.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Okay. They droop down off his face?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Instead of having big droopy jowls, he had big droopy eyelashes. Wait, what did I say? Eyelids, not eyelashes.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. You think there's an anime name for those mushroomy things? Yeah, it's been like that.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Really?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That's terrible. It looks really bad.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' An anime name for the mushrooms?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I do think there's a name for them, but I can't think of what it might be right now.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' There's the snot— There's the snot bubble. There's the tear that comes up the side of your face. And then there's the weird, angry mushroom when you're laughing.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' They mean something to someone, but not to me.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Get down.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' It's like the end of the pale green pants.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Hello!

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' And... keep playing here. We're gonna fade it out.

===Real World References===
*The Pale Green Pants are from a children's story called "What Was I Scared Of?" by [[Wikipedia:Dr. Seuss|Dr. Seuss]].
*"The tear that comes up the side of your face" is correctly referred to as a [[Wikipedia:Sweat drop|sweat drop]] and is a common element of anime, though it almost always goes ''down'' one's face.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.html|watch "20X6 vs. 1936"]]
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.swf|view the Flash file for "20X6 vs. 1936"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|20x6vs1936}}

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Old-Timey]][[Category:20X6]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

20X6 vs. 1936

Tenka Muteki — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:24:51 GMT

Tenka Muteki: Not the page, the Toons Menu description. Under "500 The Cheats", it says "Watch him shimmie and shake". Go look at the Toons Menu yourself.

{{toonnav|Shorts|20x6vs1936|The System is Down|Arcade Game}}
[[Image:20X6 versus 1936.png|thumb|right|220px|"Just kinda shimmy and shake."]]

Stinkoman meets The Homestar Runner and asks him for a challenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Planet K]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 17, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:55

'''Page Title:''' CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Transcript ==
''{Open to Stinkoman training in the field.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{punches the air}'' Hah hah hah hah hah hah hah! ''{kicks the air}'' Hya hya hya hya hya hya hya!

''{The Homestar Runner walks up, kicking his can. The can taps Stinkoman's foot.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Waah! ''{jumps}'' Who are you?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm the Homestar Runner.

'''STINKOMAN:''' That name is dumb. It sounds like it is soooo dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, what's your moniker?

'''STINKOMAN:''' I go by Stinkoman. That's the name of talented fighter if ever there was one.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, if you say so. Would you care for some dry meal? ''{pulls out a bag of dry meal which makes a dry wheezing sound}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' No way! I'm training for fighting, or maybe a challenge. So what's that thing you're kicking around?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, that's just an old can of water soup. I kick it around ever since ''{sadly}'' my dog worshed away in the storm of '28.

'''STINKOMAN:''' You seem like you might not be from around here. Do you have any special powers?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I can play a mean worshboard. ''{pulls out a washboard that says "worsh it" and plays it}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{flinches}'' What is that? ''What'' is ''that?'' Some kinda robot?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's a robit?

'''STINKOMAN:''' You don't know what a robot is? Hahaha! You're so dumb! Hahaha! Dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, go soak your fat head.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Are you asking for a CHALLEENGE? ''{starts to power up}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes sir. Yes sir I am.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{jumps high into the air}'' DOUBLE DEUCE!!!!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pulls out a pea shooter and shoots at him}'' Ptooie. ''{hits Stinkoman in the eye}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{falls to the ground}'' Ow! My eye! It's like, my eye! It hurts so bad!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, folks, you know what that means. Now I'll do a dance. ''{starts dancing}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hahahaha! That dance cracks me up! Hahahaha! You gotta teach me!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just kinda shimmie and shake.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Yeah! Now I've got it! ''{starts dancing}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stands on one leg}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumping up in the air}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{upside down}'' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

''{Fade to black}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 20X6!

'''STINKOMAN:''' 1936!

''{The words "AGAIN?" and "back." appear.}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*The Homestar Runner's "worsh board" was a common, improvised musical instrument in the nineteenth century, typically used for percussion in jug-band music.

===Remarks===
*This cartoon shows that [[Old Timey]] takes place in 1936.
*The [[Old-Timey]] scratch line behaves irregularly:
**Sometimes it sticks out of The Homestar Runner's body; other times it doesn't even reach the edge.
**There is no scratch line on The Homestar Runner's feet, hat propeller, or worshboard.
**The scratchline changes rotation with the rest of The Homestar Runner's body while he is dancing (see image at top of page). Given how scratch lines are formed, it is entirely impossible for it to be anything but perfectly vertical.
**During part of the toon the dry meal sack has a scratch line (independent of The Homestar Runner's), but for the rest of the toon it does not.

===Inside References===
*Stinkoman asking "''What is that?'' Some kinda robot?" is a possible reference to the Strong Bad Email [[some kinda robot]].
*The page title, "CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!", refers to the Stinkoman theme song, which contains the words "Challenge and fighting and fighting and challenge tonight..."
*The Homestar Runner kicking a can around is a reference to the series of cartoons in [[Kick the Can]].

===Real-World References===
*The kicking attack Stinkoman practices bears a strong resemblance to [[wikipedia:Chun Li|Chun Li]]'s lightning kick attack from [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter II|the Street Fighter 2 series]].
*A hurricane struck Florida in September 1928 and is often referred to as "The Storm of '28" or the [http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/Deadliest_Costliest.shtml "Lake Okeechobee" hurricane].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Ooh, a nice little title screen there.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Oh, these are always fun to do. Mixing the weird, different universes of the Homestar Runner world.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yes. This was the first—Was this the first thing that Stro—Stinkoman was in after the japanese cartoon email?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, I think so. This was the first fleshing out of his character a little bit. ''{pauses}'' I like how Old-Timey Homestar Runner has scratchies only on him—

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' —and his voice.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' And—and his audio?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I think Old-Timey Homestar Runner is my favorite character.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' What do you think Old-Timey Homestar Runner's dog's name was, Mike?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Um...

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Old something?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Old Eyelids? Cause he had eyelids? ''{Matt laughs}'' His eyelids were really big, actually.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Okay. They droop down off his face?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Instead of having big droopy jowls, he had big droopy eyelashes. Wait, what did I say? Eyelids, not eyelashes.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. You think there's an anime name for those mushroomy things? Yeah, it's been like that.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Really?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' That's terrible. It looks really bad.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' An anime name for the mushrooms?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I do think there's a name for them, but I can't think of what it might be right now.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' ''{laughs}'' There's the snot— There's the snot bubble. There's the tear that comes up the side of your face. And then there's the weird, angry mushroom when you're laughing.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' They mean something to someone, but not to me.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Get down.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' It's like the end of the pale green pants.

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hello?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Hello!

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' And... keep playing here. We're gonna fade it out.

===Real World References===
*The Pale Green Pants are from a children's story called "What Was I Scared Of?" by [[Wikipedia:Dr. Seuss|Dr. Seuss]].
*"The tear that comes up the side of your face" is correctly referred to as a [[Wikipedia:Sweat drop|sweat drop]] and is a common element of anime, though it almost always goes ''down'' one's face.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.html|watch "20X6 vs. 1936"]]
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.swf|view the Flash file for "20X6 vs. 1936"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|20x6vs1936}}

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Old-Timey]][[Category:20X6]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

20X6 vs. 1936

Tenka Muteki — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:53:29 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Transcript */ Changed spelling of "shimmy" to match the spelling from 500 The Cheats.

Ever and More

Tenka Muteki — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:56:03 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Inside References */

{{toonnav|Shorts|helmets|One Two, One Two|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Ever and More.png|thumb|"And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth Brother of Town!"]]
The [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] have a meeting.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[The King of Town]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[The Bar]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 26, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:50

'''Page Title:''' B.O.D.H. Local 1-1-Style

==Transcript==
''{Open on Coach Z and Strong Sad sitting at a table. Coach Z is wearing a gladiator's barbute, and Strong Sad is wearing his astronaut helmet}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, it's like a tricycle, but with nineteen wheels instead of three!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z, that's a ''horrible'' recipe!

'''COACH Z:''' Lemme run this one by ya. We start with a pound of rubber cement...

''{Cut to another view of the table, with Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith. Strong Mad is wearing a Nacho football helmet on top of his head, Bubs is wearing a fire helmet, and The Poopsmith is wearing a Judge Dredd helmet}''

'''BUBS:''' I haven't been able to fit into my lucky pants for almost ten years! That's why come I'm in such a bad mood all the time!

'''STRONG MAD:''' I CAN LET OUT THE WAIST ''{Holds up needle and an extremely short length of thread}'' A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU!

'''BUBS:''' Hey, that'd be a sweet deal I couldn't refuse!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Order!

''{Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith pay attention. Cut to Homestar, who's wearing his horned Viking helmet and banging a turkey drumstick on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Order! I hereby call this meeting of the Broternal Order of Different Helmets to order! Now let us begin with a rousing rendition of our frothy, shanty chant. ''{Waving drumstick like a conductor's baton}'' And one, two, three!

''{Cut to another view of the table. Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z are visible. Strong Bad is wearing a miner's helmet}''

'''ALL (besides Strong Sad):''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut to another view. Strong Sad and Pom Pom are visible. Pom Pom is wearing a Samurai helmet. Strong Sad isn't singing and has his arms folded}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Singing—

'''ALL (besides Strong Sad):''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One more time!

''{Cut to a shot of The Poopsmith, The King of Town and Strong Sad, slowly zooming out. The King of Town is wearing a German Pickelhaube.}''

'''ALL (besides Strong Sad):''' ''{singing, getting higher at the end}'' Ever and more...

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z, slowly panning left}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more...

''{Cut to The Cheat next to Strong Mad. The Cheat is wearing a British custodian helmet.}''

'''ALL (besides Strong Sad):''' ...ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Sad! Why weren't you singing?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I don't believe in the message!

''{Cut to a view of Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, yes you do. All in favor?

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z}''

'''ALL EXCEPT STRONG SAD:''' Aye!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All opposed?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Nay!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The ayes win! ''{He ducks under the table and reappears next to Strong Sad}'' You believe in the message now!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Patting Homestar on the back and smiling}'' I really do!

''{Homestar ducks under the table and reappears in his original position}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I now give the floor to our treasurer, regarding shiny new ways to misappropriate funds.

''{Cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Thank you, Brotherstar Runnerbro... ther. Well, I've taken the minutes ''{holds them up, music starts playing}'' from last month's meeting and sold them as rollover minutes ''{holds up another piece of paper with a picture of [[Homsar]] on it}'' to third world countries! ''{places both pieces of paper down}'' Then I bought myself, I mean the Broternal Order of Different Helmets, a jetski! ''{holds up a jetski, slightly knocking the light, and puts it down}'' But then I wrecked it and broke my shin! ''{holds up crumpled leg}'' So now my rubbing ointment ''{holds up tube of BUBRUB!}'' costs fifty bucks a tube!

''{Record scratch sound effect. Music stops. Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Fantastic! And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth, Brother of Town.

''{The King of Town comes onscreen}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Boooo-ooo! 
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen, simultaneously}'' Yaaaaay!

''{Homestar and the King of Town move around for a second. Hand slapping is heard}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody got it? This: ''{The word "This" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around as three arrows appear onscreen}'' Then this: ''{The words "Then this" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around some more and more complex arrows, including one that branches into three, appear on the screen}'' And now Brother Strong Bad, with his weekly power play.

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Clears throat, then speaks angrily}'' What's the matter with you guys?! I should be in charge here! Why is Homestar running this secret club?! ''{banging his fist on the table}'' Singing songs and secret handshakes?! That's rejected Girl Scout camp material! Put me in charge, and we'll be hitting each other with wooden stools until the morning light! Eating triple-fried pork rinds and burping video game music six ways till Tuesday! "Ever and More"?! That's horse puckey, you fools! It's all marketing mumbo jumbo! ''{upset}'' DON'T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT!!

''{Strong Bad pants and shakes. Homestar leans onscreen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you, Strong Bad. We look forward to hearing from you next week.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{subdued}'' Thank you, Supreme Overlord.

''{Homestar leans offscreen. Cut to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And with that, our meeting is adjourned. So everybody buddy up and get to work on that secret handshake. I'm gonna go take a bath in a pile of gold coins.

''{Homestar walks offscreen. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat imitating the movements Homestar and the King of Town made earlier, with their hands on their hips. Cut to the words "end, friend." on a black screen}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "friend." at the end of the short to see Homestar Runner lying in a bathtub full of gold coins in the bathroom of the Brothers Strong.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing to the tune of the ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]'' theme song}'' Lasers, race cars, aeroplanes, doot doo, ah-doot doo!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*"Broternal" is a [[portmanteau]] of "brotherhood" and "fraternal", two words that are often found in names of male-only secret societies.
*Rollover minutes, offered by [[Wikipedia:AT&T Mobility|AT&T Mobility]] (formerly Cingular Wireless), are unused wireless phone minutes from one month that can be carried over and used in the next.
*[[Wikipedia:Minutes|Meeting minutes]] are a summary of what was discussed at a meeting.
*The page title conforms to the practice of referring to a [[Wikipedia:Local union|local union]] as a "local" followed by that local union's number. These organizations are also commonly named "brotherhoods" or "fraternal orders".

===Trivia===
*This toon's [[Irregular Loading Screens|loading screen]] reads, "loading, friend."

===Goofs===
[[Image:StrongMadMouth everandmore.png|thumb|I CAN LOOSEN REALITY FOR YOU!]]
*When Strong Mad holds up the needle, his "O" mouth animation causes an extra line (his chin) to overlap the needle.
*There are numerous inconsistencies regarding the placement of the characters around the table. For instance, in the first shot Coach Z is on Strong Sad's right, but when they are singing "Ever and More!" The King of Town appears on Strong Sad's right. Also, the Poopsmith is on Bubs's left when he is talking about his lucky pants, but during the song Strong Bad is on Bubs' left.

===Inside References===
* The order's song was previously sung by Homestar in [[the movies]]. Homestar also wore the [[horned helmet]] in that email.
* Strong Sad's astronaut costume was previously seen in [[senior prom]], though he's only wearing the helmet part here.
* Strong Bad's miner helmet was seen in the emails [[cheatday]] and [[different town]].
* The King of Town's German army helmet is similar to the one [[The Kaiser]], his [[Old-Timey]] counterpart, wears.
* The Broternal Order's secret handshake is another reference to characters' [[lack of visible arms]].
* When the King of Town is called forward to demonstrate the secret handshake, Strong Sad is the only one to yell 'yay'. This may be a reference to [[impression]], where the King of Town is the only one to yell 'boo' when Strong Sad is introduced.
* When Strong Sad is told that he believes in the message of the song, he [[Strong Sad smiling|smiles]].
* The pennant on the wall reads "[[LEMKE]]!".
* Bubs's jetski is labeled "WETSKi", another instance of [[lowercase i's]].
* Bubs mentions his lucky [[pants]].
* Pom Pom's [[Wikipedia: samurai|samurai]] helmet is a reference to Pom Pom's [[Pom Pom#Fighting Skills|martial arts skills]].
* The webpage title mentions [[style]].
* Coach Z is drinking a [[Coldson Lite]].
* Bubs says the phrase "[[why come]]".
* There is an [[interrupted conversation]] at beginning of this cartoon.

===Real-World References===
[[Image:Cold Ones Light Old Style.png|thumb|Old Style Cold Ones]]
*The Poopsmith is wearing [[Wikipedia:Judge Dredd|Judge Dredd]]'s helmet.
*The [[Cold Ones]] Light poster closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Pabst Brewing Company#Old Style|Old Style]] beer logo.
*The lyrics Homestar sings in the bathtub of gold coins are a rearranged segment of the theme song to [[Wikipedia:Disney|Disney]]'s ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]],'' with the lines "racecars, lasers, aeroplanes" changed to "lasers, racecars, aeroplanes", and "It's a duck blur" replaced with "Doot do, ah doot-do." Homestar's behavior mirrors that of [[Wikipedia: Scrooge McDuck|Scrooge McDuck]], the central character in DuckTales, who enjoys swimming through his coin-filled [[Wikipedia:Money Bin|Money Bin]].


== External Links ==
* [[HR:helmets.html|watch "Ever and More!"]]
* [[HR:helmets.swf|view the Flash file for "Ever and More!"]]
* [[Forum:11746|forum thread re: "Ever and More!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|helmets}}
[[Category:Shorts]]

Talk:Where's an Egg?

Tenka Muteki — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:35:01 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Ending Screen */

==Character themes==

I just noticed something. Every character has their own variation on the theme that plays in that person's presence. Whenever you ask a character about another character, or they answer a question about that character, that character's theme will be played along with the theme of the character you're speaking with. But when only items and places are involved in the question (or the occasional super-bad liar who answers a question with him/herself when it's patently not true), you'll hear only the one character's theme. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Multiple endings==

I've found that depending on how quickly I finish the games. So far, I've found four:
*Fireworks only — 900 seconds or less left
*Fireworks and a white satellite-looking spaceship — 901-940 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, and a yellow/brown spaceship — 941-970 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, a yellow/brown spaceship, and a gray/green spaceship with an alien coming out — 971 or more seconds left
I'm unsure whether there are any other endings for amounts of time left much smaller than the above. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:My guess is that the 3rd one is a space lab and the "alien" that comes out is a cosmonaut performing a space walk.

:I managed to win a few times just by shooting at everyone immediately. My best time is 994 and all I get is the sputnik, the rocket and the space lab.

:[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't just any "spaceships", those are definitely meant to refer to the Sputnik satellites.

== Locations, suspects, and items ==
Here are my attempts at identifying the locations, suspects, and items. I'm not sure of all of them, especially the ones with question marks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
===Locations===
*Aquarium
*Forest
*Museum (?)
*Siberia (thanks, [[Special:Contributions/70.116.132.84|70.116.132.84]])
*City
*Desert
*Beach
*Movie theater
*Pier

===Suspects===
*Butler
*Blue hat man
*Maid
*Blonde woman
*[[Wikipedia:John McEnroe|John McEnroe]] (I think — recall that Homestar [[:Image:Homestar JohnMcEnroe.PNG|previously dressed up as him]])
*Mechanic
*Old Woman
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Red hat man

===Items===
*[[Egg]]
*Potted plant
*Strawberry
*[[Alcohol|Beer]]
*Pencil
*Bomb
*Duffel bag
*Monkey wrench
*Slingshot
*Cat

I think once the locations, items, suspects are re-ordered, we can pull the stub tag off the article. Lots of great info and we have the basics now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Item Talk ==

I have noticed, if people talk about an item when you question them about the egg, talk about the item. They will then tell you a person, and a place. If the person is at that place with the item, they usually have the egg. If they ARN'T at that spot, the one who gave you the info usually has the egg. Anyone have this not happen? (Notice I said USUALLY)--[[User:Bobmuffins|Bobmuffins]] 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Painfully dumb question... ==

How do you play the game if you don't speak or read Russian?
:Actual game play requires no knowledge of Russian, since it done completely with pictures. The Russian writing is meaningless or poorly done, anyway. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

- Hey; erm, I have no real idea about wiki ettiquete but I just wanted to say that the Russian is all more or less correct and certainly not meaningless. Here goes: The title, 'gde yaitso' indeed means 'where is the/an egg?' (although the dash in the middle is not needed) - the reference to 'gde yaichko' that is made on the corresponding wiki article on this topic is wrong; 'yaichko' is a diminuitive form roughly equivalent to 'eggy'. 'Gde yaitso' i.e. as written in the game is the best translatoin for 'Where's an Egg?'. On the loading screen, 'televizionniy elektricheskiy' - 'televisual electrical' is fairly senseless but apart from that, the rest of the russian is correct. When you shoot the egg-haver, 'vinovnik' (criminal) appears, and then 'pozdravlenie' (congratulations). If you get it wrong, 'vinovnik' again appears, followed by 'gulag' (russians tend to use the simpler word 'lager'' but gulag is a russian acronym) and then 'igra zakonchenniy' - the only real example of incorrect grammar. It means 'game over' but should be 'igra zakonchennaya' to account for the feminine gender of 'igra'. Hardly 'meaningless or poorly done'. I was pretty surprised with the quality of the russian, to be honest
:: Since it clear you know Russian, and I definitely do not, I would bow to your superior knowledge. In this case, I would say writing up this information in the wiki directly would be much appreciated. (Perhaps under a translation section?) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Russian text is only used for the title screen and the "congraturatory" address. "Dialogue" in the game itself is handled through pictograms ("Blue Rabbit's Climate Chaos" comes to mind, although this is much more simplistic). Basically, you go around "investigating" each area, confirming which characters are where and which items they're holding, and questioning the characters about other characters and items; if you find someone who's lying, odds are he/she is the culprit, and you do what any good renegade Russian detective would: you shoot them! ^_^--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 19:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

: Actually, I find that about half the suspects lie, whether they have the egg or not. But really, since everyone either always lies or always tells the truth, all you have to do is find someone who gives you a clue about the egg and says even one other true thing. (Don't bother asking anyone, truthteller or liar, about him/herself or his/her own item, though.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Too many colors==
When you hover over a button, it gradients from gray to yellow (and back again when you remove) Thats waaaaay too many shades of yellow for a game like this. Maybe put this in remarks or goofs. I have bad edit etiquette :P

==Screen shot==
Since the game is out for reals and looks different from the preview shot that was originally up, shouldn't we use a screen shot of actual game play? Do we include both images on the page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I went ahead and replaced the old image with the new one, since that's what we did with [[Kid Speedy]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Maid ==
[[Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png|thumb|Totally a butcher.]]
Which person is supposed to be the maid? Process of elimination of all the other characters left a person who appears to be a butcher.--[[User:Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel|Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel]] 21:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Also, which one is supposed to be the movie theater? Process of elimination left what resembles the Lincoln Memorial.

== Ending Screen ==

That's not a police station, it's Lenin's Mausoleum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum)
:Apparently we don't know too much 'bout Russia. Thanks for pointing that out! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Also the word vinovnik (виновник) would be better translated as "guilty person". Criminal is prestupnik (преступник) in Russian.

We would probably use "culprit" in English.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Suspect and location images ==

While the suspect and location images were originally icons, they have now been overwritten with full-sized images. Personally, I prefer the icons for three reasons:
#The full body characters are much taller than the rest of the images, which makes the table look a little lopsided.
#The icon images are pixel-for-pixel, whereas there are some cropping issues with the full-sized images (compare the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716220648%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png butcher icon}} with the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/5/5b/Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png full-body butcher}})
#We don't need to illustrate every component of the game completely, just give an icon for identification purposes.
Does anyone agree, or are we happy with the staus quo? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: I think the table is fine as is, especially with the ability to expand the locations to a larger size. Perhaps making the size of the icons closer to the same size (using the item icons as a guide)? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

::The icons are fine by me, alhtough the cropping issues can easily be fixed. If you think reverting back to icons is the better choice, by all means, go for it. I don't see a problem with keeping the locations as full shots, however. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Names of People, Places and iTems ==

Using a decompiler, the names are '''Jessifer, Pall, Brodermaker, Mancuso, Damella, Deark, Gubby, Les and Joeff'''. The places are called '''Seward Lane, Hollway, A Room, Gym, Bank, Gumption Road, Upstairs, Nearby and Under'''. The items are called '''Bottle, Ball, Butterfly, Dog, Gym Bag, Fanny Pack, Frying Pan, Candlestick and Laptop'''. Not sure which is which. I might have another look later on when I'm home from school.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:That's crazy :P Especially since some of those names bear little resemblance to the items... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Manual ==

The manual page is really funny in the way, that its English translation is more correct then the original Russian text :)

* The word at the top of the page "Узнать" (Uznat') is correct, it really does mean "Find out";
* The line "Кто лежит?" (Kto lezhit?) is a mistake and actually means here "Who is lying on the ground?" rather then "Who is telling lies/lying?". This is because in English the verb "to lie" can mean both of those things, but in Russian it's "лежать" (lezhat') for "lying on the ground" and "лгать" (lgat') for "telling the lies/lying". So the line should be "Кто лжет?" (Kto lzhet?);
* The line "Кто говорит правду?" (Kto govorit pravdu?) is correct, it does mean "Who tells the truth?";
* The line "Кто имеет яйцо?" (Kto imeet yaico?) is a bit incorrect and means "Who owns an egg?". "У кого яйцо?" (U kogo yaico?) could be translated as "Who has the egg?"

Another note: The Arbat ST. (location of the seller) is a well-known street in Moscow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbat_Street).

Talk:Where's an Egg?

Tenka Muteki — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:22:07 GMT

Tenka Muteki: /* Painfully dumb question... */