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Triumvir — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:29:40 GMT

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== Homestar Runner! ==
[[Image:Homestar GreatHero.PNG|thumb|"Believe it or not, I'm walkin' around!"]]

Greetings, fallows.

My name is Justin, and I like in [[Wikipedia:Sioux Falls|South Dakota]]. I discovered Homestar's website when two of my friends introduced me to it the weekend of my wedding. At first, I thought the material was banal at best - but then something kept me coming back over and over again. Even when I should have been working, I continued to check back regularly. Now, as many of my friends have, I have probably seen everything on the entire site.

In my free time (besides viewing Homestarrunner), I enjoy playing some computer games, reading, and spending time with my family. I love classical music, with special emphasis on [[Wikipedia:Franz Josef Haydn|Haydn]], [[Wikipedia:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]], [[Wikipedia:Antonio Vivaldi|Vivaldi]], and all other [[Wikipedia:Baroque|Baroque]] era composers. I am a relatively new Wiki user, so if anyone feels the urge, corrections and other such help are always welcome.

== Favorite Homestar Runner Type Quotes ==

"Smashing! No, I mean start smashing! Yes - it's curtains for you [[Wikipedia:Ming Vase|Ming vase]]!" ~[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]

"Only liars and thieves eat [[Grumblecakes]], and those people go to prison... Just ask The [[Cheat]]!" ~Cheat Cake Singers

"Look lively. LOOK LIVELY!" ~[[Mr. Shmallow]]

Talk:Lappynapped!

Triumvir — Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:10:57 GMT

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==The Magical Spit-Bubble==
When Strong Sad Has A Spit-Bubble Stuck In His Throat, His Voice Goes Ultra-Deep. Yet, When Homestar Has A Spit-Bubble In His Throat, His Voice Goes Ultra-High, In Fact, Exactly Like Marzipans. Shouldn't both Their Voices Go One Way? -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 07:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:I don't want to delve too deep into the physics of voice altering spit bubbles here (because I know squat about that), but I don't know why this should not be possible. It's, uhm, also funnier this way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

::OBEY THE FUNNY! Also, save this Flash file to your computer, in case this goes the way of the [[Broken Compy Menu]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I did an experiment about what spit bubbles in your throught make you sound like. They make yoyu sound kinda like Stitch. Or, If your yelling, Strong Mad.

-Alex H.

It's a reference to the Princess Bride, where the guy in the Pit of Despair has a similar problem with his voice, no? --[[User:66.213.14.20|66.213.14.20]] 23:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:That gag was pulled in PB, and that's probably one of the more famous examples, but I'm not sure if it was the first or a reference or anything. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::As a fan of The Princess Bride, I doubt it's a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Dolph's Phone Number==
Also, The Phone Number For The Axe-Training Poster, I Found Out, Is The Same As Daniel Ortega From The N.I.P . I Have NO Idea Why I Looked This Up. -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 10:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:Whoever Daniel Ortega from the N.I.P. is, he does not want to be called (the number [[Wikipedia:555 telephone number|does not exist]]).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Unlinked ==

Is it notable that this is not linked from anywhere except the main page oval? How would we note it if it is? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:This is not a short!

::I've changed the category to reflect that it isn't in the TV Guide at all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Munchy munchy ==

Is it safe to assume that this is another instance of the KOT eating people's property?--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 19:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Another? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] comes to mind. And [[suntan]]. Though I'm not sure this necessarily qualifies as a running gag. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::This fits in so neatly with his character that these need only be mentioned on his character page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:No, it is not safe to assume that. Assumptions are rarely safe. Especially since the KOT said he did not eat it, and he called in about the guitar licks. Not to mention with all the voice impersonation going on, we can't even say it was the KOT at all. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Guitar fun fact ==

I liked this fact (although would suggest it be reworded by someone better than me):
*"Furious Fingers" claims to have 17 guitars with 43 necks. With a ratio of roughly 2.5 necks per guitar, he must own several triple necked guitars and likely a few doubles as well.
The notable thing isnt so much the presence of the guitars, but the sheer number of multi-necked ones (if only 3 neck and one necked, then 13 would have to be triple, or 8 double and 9 triple), which strikes me (although i will admit that I am musically challenged at best) as a bit odd. Assuming no more than 3 necks per guitar (which I accept is wrong, but more seems to be rare from the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Double neck guitar|article]]), over half have to be triple for this to work. [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 19:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Multiple-necked guitars are not so unusual - especially back in the 80's, you saw them quite a bit. Is it unusual for someone who collects guitars to have a lot of them? I guess it comes down to this: it doesn't seem notable because it's obvious from context that many of the guitars have to have multiple necks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::Well, im no math genious, but hwen it comes to guitars, i know guitars. [http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/30/music-thing-the-triple-neck-guitar/ here] is a real triple neck guitar for those doubting their existance. --{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 21:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, this is why wikis should be a bit more down-to-earth. Here we are, talking about double and triple necked guitars, but we never gave the idea of the KoT PLAYING A GUITAR!?! Especially a 'lectric one. A, he's got no talent (sides eating), and B, he's not exactly cool. We seriously need to be more down-to-earth. Not kidding, guys. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 00:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, there was that Sketchbook image that showed the KoT as a member of ZZ Top... {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 01:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Uh, did you already forget about the King of Town's [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2|new jam]]? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Two words: NO ARMS. seriously guys. fingers without arms... right.{{User:Csours/sig}} 02:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::It's possible he could have sixteen single-necks and one twenty-seven neck. :-P [[User:Gus|Gus]] 05:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

:I think it's worth hanging a link to a page talking about (or better yet, showing) a triple-necked guitar. While a good portion of people have seen a double-necked guitar, I think a lot of people would be surprised to learn that monstrosities with 3 or more necks actually exist. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== What have I done? ==

Dear god, what have I done? I email a completly random thing to SB, and then THIS happens. I feel sick. Then again, the lappy needed to go. I think it was having an affair with Marzipan's answering machine. [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 21:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:This is strictly Forum discussion. But don't let it get you down. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::Man, Man, I'd give anything to have my email answered, and much more to have it be so important. Your email is part of Homestar Runner history! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, it's not your fault. It's TBC's. Besides, your email is one of the special ones. Why? It significantly affected the continuity! You should be proud of that! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Future Category ==

So far this toon is only linked from the main page, but that is expected to change once the Brothers Chaps finish this story arc. While it will probably end up as a "Short", would it also be acceptable to classify this as a "Not-Quite-Strong-Bad-Email"? --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:45, 25 Sept 2006 (PDT)

:Well, it is categorized as such now. The categories are based on the TV Time menu on the site. As this is not in that (yet), it's premature to classify it as a Big Toon, Short or whatever. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

==Crocodile Neighba==
Sorry, I didn't realize that had been added/removed before. But aside from that, I think it's a pretty clear reference to "Pearls Before Swine." The crocodile next-door neighbors regularly appear in the strip trying to trick Zebra. I don't think TBC would just pull a crocodile next door asking to borrow a cup of sugar out of thin air. [[User:128.227.130.28|128.227.130.28]] 04:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:I thought of this ref too, but didn't add it for whatever reason. Lazy, perhaps. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I've read PBS daily until about a year ago, and I don't think there's a reference here. I mean, Homestar is not trying to trick SB. Sure, it sounds as if it could be a reference, but Homestar might just as well be weird as usual.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::It didn't occur to me on its own, but it does make a certain amount of sense after hearing it. Perhaps someone with a user name a bit more sure could STUFF it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: I don't think it is a reference to PBS because the crocodile next door is always trying to ''eat the zebra'', not make cookies.
::::Homestar, however, wants to make "puppy cookies". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''Edit Conflict'd!''' Those crazy crocs also talk in a funny accent [http://www.comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/pearls-20060910.html]. Ah, I shouldn't have stopped reading it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Also, the crocodiles try to trick Zebra into coming over to their house or letting them into his house, usually by asking him to do something that seems innocuous (like borrowing a cup of sugar). And since (until "Marzipan" turns out to be Homestar) the message is a parody of Strong Bad leaving ridiculous prank calls on Marzipan's answering machine, the reference seems to fit nicely. [[User:128.227.130.28|128.227.130.28]] 05:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Call me crazy *waits* but I believe the point of a reference is to reference something in a '''funny''' way. Simply finding an occurrence in the real world that matches what someone said does not a reference make. You'll find a billion of those. The only joke in this occurs in what Homestar said, in that the word ''puppy-dough'' looks like the word ''puppy-dog''. This is almost more of a reference to the Doo-ing/Doyng joke Homestar made before. Don't make me go out and find another case of someone living next door to a crocodile just so that this can be TTATOT like just happened with the Beatles vs Marilyn Manson. :) --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thinks this might be a reference to Steve Erwin dying a few weeks ago? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 21:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yes.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's Phone Number ==

Based on the tones I'm hearing at the start of the e-mail, it seems like Strong Bad's phone number is 415-6715. Is that something worthy of putting in the Fun Facts Somewhere? --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 04:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Usually, this kind of ferreted out stuff would be a cool fun fact. I suggest that we don't add it for the sake of the poor person who owns this number. Well done, anyway! How did you find this out? Perfect hearing? {{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd agree on that point. Poor person getting phone calls for Strong Bad. Anyway yeah, I was just listening carefully to the sounds on the toon and comparing it to the sounds on my cell phone. (Funny thing is, I actually kinda had an approximation on what the number might have been just based on listening to the tones on the toon many times, I guess I'm such a geek...) Another way to find out would be to probably try sending the sounds of that e-mail to your pager or cell phone as a numeric page and see what number comes out, although the sound quality of the toon might not be good enough for that. --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 18:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Marzipan?==
I think Marzipan should be included in the cast list, since it's obviously Marzipan's voice, even if it's a joke that it's really homestar just sounding like Marzipan. It's clearly Missy Palmer's voice. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:So what? Is it Marzipan? No. Therefore it would not be factual for us to include her. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::I agree. The cast list is of characterrs, not voices. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 01:28, 27 Sept 2006 (PDT)

==Transcript's Voice Identification==
The specific question at hand is whether a not-yet-recognizable voice should be identified in the transcript as who it is later revealed to be. My thought would be that the transcripts here should read as much as possible like a viewing of the toon (which is the larger question at hand, the alternative viewpoint being, I suppose, that they should reflect some sort of absolute truth), in which case homestar's first sentence or two should be attributed to Marzipan (or, a compromise I would prefer, to "Marzipan's voice"). Likewise, Strong Sad's first sentence would be attributed to "Deep Scary Voice" or something like that. [I don't know how to make a signature|sorry] 03:02, 26 September 2006 (EST)
:We usually try, as you put it, to "reflect some sort of absolute truth", so the way it is  is fine. To make a signature, just type a string of tilde characters: four if you want a time stamp with it (generally preferred, but by no means mandatory) or three if you don't. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:: We at least recognize this in the [[Subtitles:lappynapped/en|subtitles]], where the "distorted voice" and "Marzipan" are counted separately from the actual speakers. But that's more due to the nature of the subtitles, I suppose; it'd ruin the joke for those with subtitles on otherwise. As for the transcript, in most cases, it can be assumed that the reader of the transcript has previously watched the 'toon. At least, I think. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Our transcript on the toon's page is not meant to equate the experience, nor can it even try to. It's a documentation, and as such it's fine as is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::And guys, usually whoever is reading this wiki knows what the page is talking about. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 19:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Though it does suddenly occur to me that we did not give the proper credit for "Homestar" throughout [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

==Reverse prank call?==
At first, when you hear 'homestar's' message, it sounds like Marzipan is leaving a prank call on Strong Bad's answering machine, in a reversal of the usual role. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 14:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was busting out laughing when I got to that part! --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 18:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar next door? ==

We know so little about the exact lay of the land in Free Country, USA. Does this toon prove that Homestar and the Brothers Strong are actual next-door neighbors?
:I don't think that can be proved without actually seeing both houses next to each other. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Plus, he says it's the crocodile. Apart from this reflecting on Homestar's personality, It really means that a crocodile lives there. Not that there is... But I really think TBC should give us a map of FCUSA. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 19:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::I think they're avoiding doing that, coz then they'd have to adhere to it. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Leetspeak==

GRFX is another example of L33T$P33K. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, Graphics. [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 12:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Coughing ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's second cough sound remarkably like one of the Strong Bad coughs from [[Sick Day]]? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Remarks ==

"At the end of 'cliffhangers', The Paper read 'Tune in next time for the cliff hanging conclusion!!' This toon, the next one added to the site, doesn't resolve anything."

I assumed The Paper, within the context of a SBemail, meant that the conclusion would not be within the next Toon added to the site, but within the next email episode.

Or, that this is infact the conclusion. Conclusions don't always have to resolve things. Didn't you see Jurassic Park? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:I get the feeling that they'll acknowledge it at least once more, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lappy Icon ==

I could find no trace of anyone mentioning this yet, but the icon on the poster is wrong in the cartoon. While TBC are certainly allowed to change things, the original lappy icon did not have the big lips and blonde hair. That icon was only seen in the [[dreamail]] cartoon, and it seemingly only existed in Strong Bad's imagination. True, the feminine version of Lappy is more memorable, but the real icon (seen in [[animal]]) definitely has no hair or movie-star lips. Shall I put a reference to this possible goof in the article? --[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 17:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:The female Lappy was also seen in [[Sbemail 150?!?]], and not in SB's imagination. It appears that, as often happens, SB's imagination has become a reality. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe Strong Bad installed/changed something on the Lappy to change the startup icon into the female version... what I find interesting is that SB referred to the Lappy as the Paper's "brother" in its first appearance, yet ever since "dreamail" he's referred to it as a female ("they cut off her little toe!"). Er, not that it's actually possible for the thing to even ''have'' a gender in the first place :P {{User:Saturn/sig}} 23:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Perhaps SB's perception of gender changed? Perhaps the initial comment was in error? Any way you look at it, TTATOT. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
::::I think on IRC someone even once suggested that the computer itself could be male, while the software making it talk was female. A bit of a stretch, but meh, it's a theory. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::Random trivia: when we see the [[:Image:Lappybackside.png|back of the lappy]] we see a parallel port, a PS/2 port, a modem port, and a power connection... all of [[Wikipedia:Gender of connectors and fasteners|female connectors]]. :P {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:46, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:Valid point, Heimstern. I had actually forgotten about the feminine appearance in [[Sbemail 150?!?]], and your theory sounds plausible. Strong Bad's "imagined" quirks do have a tendency to become reality after a little while. My suggested addition is, therefore, retracted. --[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 13:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

== it is a ceiling tile ==
look at the lower right corner. there are holes, and there are odd shapes that are not holes. incedentally they are not pinholes, they are the holes that come on a ceiling tile. you can tell because if they were pinholes they would have a fibrous edge to them. also, it is white. if it was corkboard it would be wood colored. in ANY CASE, it would NOT have the distinct 'ceiling tile' oblongs on it, unless it was, in fact, a ceiling tile. good enough q? or shall i find a picture from the internet that completely matches the pattern?{{User:Csours/sig}} 00:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1948/tileza4.png]
:It's painted cork. Cork is used for ceiling tiles as well as blackboards.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
::thanks whoever changed the picture link, I was called away unexpectedly. as far as whether or not it says ceiling tile on the front page, i dont really care, but i've just never seen a sign board that looked like a ceiling tile before.{{User:Csours/sig}} 02:20, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I will grant you, they look similar, but it's easily believable as a corkboard. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
::::ok, this is actually bugging me more than i thougt it would. have YOU ever personally seen white corkboard? cause i never have. and i searched the internet for white corkboard, and i got white ceiling tile. so has anyone ever seen this mythical white corkboard? {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've seen grey. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::I've seen white. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Lappynapped!

Triumvir — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:23:54 GMT

Triumvir: adding comment

==The Magical Spit-Bubble==
When Strong Sad Has A Spit-Bubble Stuck In His Throat, His Voice Goes Ultra-Deep. Yet, When Homestar Has A Spit-Bubble In His Throat, His Voice Goes Ultra-High, In Fact, Exactly Like Marzipans. Shouldn't both Their Voices Go One Way? -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 07:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:I don't want to delve too deep into the physics of voice altering spit bubbles here (because I know squat about that), but I don't know why this should not be possible. It's, uhm, also funnier this way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

::OBEY THE FUNNY! Also, save this Flash file to your computer, in case this goes the way of the [[Broken Compy Menu]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I did an experiment about what spit bubbles in your throught make you sound like. They make yoyu sound kinda like Stitch. Or, If your yelling, Strong Mad.

-Alex H.

It's a reference to the Princess Bride, where the guy in the Pit of Despair has a similar problem with his voice, no? --[[User:66.213.14.20|66.213.14.20]] 23:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:That gag was pulled in PB, and that's probably one of the more famous examples, but I'm not sure if it was the first or a reference or anything. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::As a fan of The Princess Bride, I doubt it's a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Dolph's Phone Number==
Also, The Phone Number For The Axe-Training Poster, I Found Out, Is The Same As Daniel Ortega From The N.I.P . I Have NO Idea Why I Looked This Up. -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 10:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:Whoever Daniel Ortega from the N.I.P. is, he does not want to be called (the number [[Wikipedia:555 telephone number|does not exist]]).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Unlinked ==

Is it notable that this is not linked from anywhere except the main page oval? How would we note it if it is? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:This is not a short!

::I've changed the category to reflect that it isn't in the TV Guide at all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Munchy munchy ==

Is it safe to assume that this is another instance of the KOT eating people's property?--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 19:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Another? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] comes to mind. And [[suntan]]. Though I'm not sure this necessarily qualifies as a running gag. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::This fits in so neatly with his character that these need only be mentioned on his character page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:No, it is not safe to assume that. Assumptions are rarely safe. Especially since the KOT said he did not eat it, and he called in about the guitar licks. Not to mention with all the voice impersonation going on, we can't even say it was the KOT at all. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Guitar fun fact ==

I liked this fact (although would suggest it be reworded by someone better than me):
*"Furious Fingers" claims to have 17 guitars with 43 necks. With a ratio of roughly 2.5 necks per guitar, he must own several triple necked guitars and likely a few doubles as well.
The notable thing isnt so much the presence of the guitars, but the sheer number of multi-necked ones (if only 3 neck and one necked, then 13 would have to be triple, or 8 double and 9 triple), which strikes me (although i will admit that I am musically challenged at best) as a bit odd. Assuming no more than 3 necks per guitar (which I accept is wrong, but more seems to be rare from the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Double neck guitar|article]]), over half have to be triple for this to work. [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 19:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Multiple-necked guitars are not so unusual - especially back in the 80's, you saw them quite a bit. Is it unusual for someone who collects guitars to have a lot of them? I guess it comes down to this: it doesn't seem notable because it's obvious from context that many of the guitars have to have multiple necks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::Well, im no math genious, but hwen it comes to guitars, i know guitars. [http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/30/music-thing-the-triple-neck-guitar/ here] is a real triple neck guitar for those doubting their existance. --{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 21:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, this is why wikis should be a bit more down-to-earth. Here we are, talking about double and triple necked guitars, but we never gave the idea of the KoT PLAYING A GUITAR!?! Especially a 'lectric one. A, he's got no talent (sides eating), and B, he's not exactly cool. We seriously need to be more down-to-earth. Not kidding, guys. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 00:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, there was that Sketchbook image that showed the KoT as a member of ZZ Top... {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 01:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Uh, did you already forget about the King of Town's [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2|new jam]]? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Two words: NO ARMS. seriously guys. fingers without arms... right.{{User:Csours/sig}} 02:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::It's possible he could have sixteen single-necks and one twenty-seven neck. :-P [[User:Gus|Gus]] 05:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

:I think it's worth hanging a link to a page talking about (or better yet, showing) a triple-necked guitar. While a good portion of people have seen a double-necked guitar, I think a lot of people would be surprised to learn that monstrosities with 3 or more necks actually exist. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== What have I done? ==

Dear god, what have I done? I email a completly random thing to SB, and then THIS happens. I feel sick. Then again, the lappy needed to go. I think it was having an affair with Marzipan's answering machine. [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 21:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:This is strictly Forum discussion. But don't let it get you down. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::Man, Man, I'd give anything to have my email answered, and much more to have it be so important. Your email is part of Homestar Runner history! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, it's not your fault. It's TBC's. Besides, your email is one of the special ones. Why? It significantly affected the continuity! You should be proud of that! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Future Category ==

So far this toon is only linked from the main page, but that is expected to change once the Brothers Chaps finish this story arc. While it will probably end up as a "Short", would it also be acceptable to classify this as a "Not-Quite-Strong-Bad-Email"? --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:45, 25 Sept 2006 (PDT)

:Well, it is categorized as such now. The categories are based on the TV Time menu on the site. As this is not in that (yet), it's premature to classify it as a Big Toon, Short or whatever. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

==Crocodile Neighba==
Sorry, I didn't realize that had been added/removed before. But aside from that, I think it's a pretty clear reference to "Pearls Before Swine." The crocodile next-door neighbors regularly appear in the strip trying to trick Zebra. I don't think TBC would just pull a crocodile next door asking to borrow a cup of sugar out of thin air. [[User:128.227.130.28|128.227.130.28]] 04:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:I thought of this ref too, but didn't add it for whatever reason. Lazy, perhaps. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I've read PBS daily until about a year ago, and I don't think there's a reference here. I mean, Homestar is not trying to trick SB. Sure, it sounds as if it could be a reference, but Homestar might just as well be weird as usual.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::It didn't occur to me on its own, but it does make a certain amount of sense after hearing it. Perhaps someone with a user name a bit more sure could STUFF it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: I don't think it is a reference to PBS because the crocodile next door is always trying to ''eat the zebra'', not make cookies.
::::Homestar, however, wants to make "puppy cookies". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''Edit Conflict'd!''' Those crazy crocs also talk in a funny accent [http://www.comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/pearls-20060910.html]. Ah, I shouldn't have stopped reading it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Also, the crocodiles try to trick Zebra into coming over to their house or letting them into his house, usually by asking him to do something that seems innocuous (like borrowing a cup of sugar). And since (until "Marzipan" turns out to be Homestar) the message is a parody of Strong Bad leaving ridiculous prank calls on Marzipan's answering machine, the reference seems to fit nicely. [[User:128.227.130.28|128.227.130.28]] 05:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Call me crazy *waits* but I believe the point of a reference is to reference something in a '''funny''' way. Simply finding an occurrence in the real world that matches what someone said does not a reference make. You'll find a billion of those. The only joke in this occurs in what Homestar said, in that the word ''puppy-dough'' looks like the word ''puppy-dog''. This is almost more of a reference to the Doo-ing/Doyng joke Homestar made before. Don't make me go out and find another case of someone living next door to a crocodile just so that this can be TTATOT like just happened with the Beatles vs Marilyn Manson. :) --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's Phone Number ==

Based on the tones I'm hearing at the start of the e-mail, it seems like Strong Bad's phone number is 415-6715. Is that something worthy of putting in the Fun Facts Somewhere? --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 04:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Usually, this kind of ferreted out stuff would be a cool fun fact. I suggest that we don't add it for the sake of the poor person who owns this number. Well done, anyway! How did you find this out? Perfect hearing? {{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd agree on that point. Poor person getting phone calls for Strong Bad. Anyway yeah, I was just listening carefully to the sounds on the toon and comparing it to the sounds on my cell phone. (Funny thing is, I actually kinda had an approximation on what the number might have been just based on listening to the tones on the toon many times, I guess I'm such a geek...) Another way to find out would be to probably try sending the sounds of that e-mail to your pager or cell phone as a numeric page and see what number comes out, although the sound quality of the toon might not be good enough for that. --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 18:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Marzipan?==
I think Marzipan should be included in the cast list, since it's obviously Marzipan's voice, even if it's a joke that it's really homestar just sounding like Marzipan. It's clearly Missy Palmer's voice. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:So what? Is it Marzipan? No. Therefore it would not be factual for us to include her. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::I agree. The cast list is of characterrs, not voices. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 01:28, 27 Sept 2006 (PDT)

==Transcript's Voice Identification==
The specific question at hand is whether a not-yet-recognizable voice should be identified in the transcript as who it is later revealed to be. My thought would be that the transcripts here should read as much as possible like a viewing of the toon (which is the larger question at hand, the alternative viewpoint being, I suppose, that they should reflect some sort of absolute truth), in which case homestar's first sentence or two should be attributed to Marzipan (or, a compromise I would prefer, to "Marzipan's voice"). Likewise, Strong Sad's first sentence would be attributed to "Deep Scary Voice" or something like that. [I don't know how to make a signature|sorry] 03:02, 26 September 2006 (EST)
:We usually try, as you put it, to "reflect some sort of absolute truth", so the way it is  is fine. To make a signature, just type a string of tilde characters: four if you want a time stamp with it (generally preferred, but by no means mandatory) or three if you don't. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:: We at least recognize this in the [[Subtitles:lappynapped/en|subtitles]], where the "distorted voice" and "Marzipan" are counted separately from the actual speakers. But that's more due to the nature of the subtitles, I suppose; it'd ruin the joke for those with subtitles on otherwise. As for the transcript, in most cases, it can be assumed that the reader of the transcript has previously watched the 'toon. At least, I think. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Our transcript on the toon's page is not meant to equate the experience, nor can it even try to. It's a documentation, and as such it's fine as is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::And guys, usually whoever is reading this wiki knows what the page is talking about. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 19:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Though it does suddenly occur to me that we did not give the proper credit for "Homestar" throughout [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

==Reverse prank call?==
At first, when you hear 'homestar's' message, it sounds like Marzipan is leaving a prank call on Strong Bad's answering machine, in a reversal of the usual role. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 14:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was busting out laughing when I got to that part! --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 18:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar next door? ==

We know so little about the exact lay of the land in Free Country, USA. Does this toon prove that Homestar and the Brothers Strong are actual next-door neighbors?
:I don't think that can be proved without actually seeing both houses next to each other. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Plus, he says it's the crocodile. Apart from this reflecting on Homestar's personality, It really means that a crocodile lives there. Not that there is... But I really think TBC should give us a map of FCUSA. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 19:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::I think they're avoiding doing that, coz then they'd have to adhere to it. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Leetspeak==

GRFX is another example of L33T$P33K. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, Graphics. [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 12:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Coughing ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's second cough sound remarkably like one of the Strong Bad coughs from [[Sick Day]]? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Remarks ==

"At the end of 'cliffhangers', The Paper read 'Tune in next time for the cliff hanging conclusion!!' This toon, the next one added to the site, doesn't resolve anything."

I assumed The Paper, within the context of a SBemail, meant that the conclusion would not be within the next Toon added to the site, but within the next email episode.

Or, that this is infact the conclusion. Conclusions don't always have to resolve things. Didn't you see Jurassic Park? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:I get the feeling that they'll acknowledge it at least once more, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lappy Icon ==

I could find no trace of anyone mentioning this yet, but the icon on the poster is wrong in the cartoon. While TBC are certainly allowed to change things, the original lappy icon did not have the big lips and blonde hair. That icon was only seen in the [[dreamail]] cartoon, and it seemingly only existed in Strong Bad's imagination. True, the feminine version of Lappy is more memorable, but the real icon (seen in [[animal]]) definitely has no hair or movie-star lips. Shall I put a reference to this possible goof in the article? --[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 17:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk:The Cheat Is Not Dead

Triumvir — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:39:21 GMT

Triumvir: adding comment

I think the actual title for the song is The Cheat is Not Dead, not The Cheat is NOT DEAD. Is it okay that I moved this page?

--[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]|[[User Talk:Homsar999| Click this link to add your reply to my talk page, as well as this page]]

:Fine by me. I also would have accepted "The Cheat is not dead" Good prize! *Ding* - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 12:13, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

How is this song ska? Can anyone explain that to me? -- [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 23:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:It's because of the instruments used. The organ at the beginning constitutes ska. It's the exact same as in real life, Goldfinger and Wylde Bunch are ska because they use ska instruments in their songs. It's also because of the beat to The Cheat is Not Dead. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:22, 29 Apr 2005 (CDT)

To be honest, the song kind of reminds me of "D'yer Mak'er." --[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 07:32, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Chech the receipts? ==

Are we completely sure it says "Check the receipts?" It kind of sounds like a combination of "Cheddar is is" and "Pegasus" to me. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 21:56, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
I hear "Collect the receipts!"--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 21:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I always thought it was "Calligary 6" (whatever that is)

== More of a Blues Bros. Reference? ==
In addition to the ending lick (which I recognized immediately), the repeating of the same phrase over and over is common in both ("The cheat is not dead" and whatever that phrase is during the church scene). Considering there's one reference already, I think it could be strengthened with the addition of this quip: "The way in which the choir repeats the same phrase bears resemblance to the church scene of ''The Blues Brothers''." [[User:Saladman|Saladman]] 23:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Weirded Out ==
I am a frequent listener to my [[Wikipedia:LAUNCHcast|Yahoo! Launchcast player]], and I have just heard a song that made me stop my work and think for a moment. The melody of the refrain sounded so familiar, but I had to spend a minute or two figuring out where I had heard it. If you have the ability through some service (don't buy the CD), check out the song called "Omobolasire," by the band [[Wikipedia:Prozzäk|Prozzäk]]. The album ([[Wikipedia:Ready Ready Set Go|Ready Ready Set Go]]) came out in 2002, which predates '''The Cheat is Not Dead''' by a year. While some songs merely have a vague similarity to one another, the melody for this refrain is a 99.9% exact match. Go ahead - listen and tell me I'm wrong. *chuckle* --[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Triumvir

Triumvir — Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:35:33 GMT

Triumvir: Updating my page

== The Triumvir of Courage comes to Homestar Runner! ==
[[Image:SuperStar.JPG|thumb|"Believe it or not, I'm new to this site!"]]

Greetings, fallows - I'm .... the Triumvir of Courage.

My name is Justin, and I like in [[Wikipedia:Oklahoma City|Oklahoma City]]. I'm a law student, about to complete law school in May! I discovered Homestar's website when two of my friends introduced me to it the weekend of my wedding. At first, I thought the material was banal at best - but then something kept me coming back over and over again. Even when I should have been working, I continued to check back regularly. Now, as many of my friends have, I have probably seen everything on the entire site.

In my free time (besides viewing Homestarrunner), I enjoy playing some computer games, reading, and spending time with my wife (who doesn't really appreciate the humor of Homestar). I love classical music, with special emphasis on [[Wikipedia:Franz Josef Haydn|Haydn]], [[Wikipedia:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]], [[Wikipedia:Antonio Vivaldi|Vivaldi]], and all other [[Wikipedia:Baroque|Baroque]] era composers. After all, if it's not Baroque, don't fix it *groan*. I am a relatively new Wiki user, so if anyone feels the urge, corrections and other such help are always welcome.

== Favorite Homestar Runner Type Quotes ==

"Smashing! No, I mean start smashing! Yes - it's curtains for you [[Wikipedia:Ming Vase|Ming vase]]!" ~[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]

"Only liars and thieves eat [[Grumblecakes]], and those people go to prison... Just ask The [[Cheat]]!" ~Cheat Cake Singers

"Look lively. LOOK LIVELY!" ~[[Mr. Shmallow]]

User:Triumvir

Triumvir — Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:21:03 GMT

Triumvir: Updating my page

== The Triumvir of Courage comes to Homestar Runner! ==

Greetings, fallows - I'm .... the Triumvir of Courage.

My name is Justin, and I like in [[Wikipedia:Oklahoma City|Oklahoma City]]. I'm a law student, about to complete law school in May! I discovered Homestar's website when two of my friends introduced me to it the weekend of my wedding. At first, I thought the material was banal at best - but then something kept me coming back over and over again. Even when I should have been working, I continued to check back regularly. Now, as many of my friends have, I have probably seen everything on the entire site.

In my free time (besides viewing Homestarrunner), I enjoy playing some computer games, reading, and spending time with my wife (who doesn't really appreciate the humor of Homestar). I love classical music, with special emphasis on [[Wikipedia:Franz Josef Haydn|Haydn]], [[Wikipedia:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]], [[Wikipedia:Antonio Vivaldi|Vivaldi]], and all other [[Wikipedia:Baroque|Baroque]] era composers. After all, if it's not Baroque, don't fix it *groan*. I am a relatively new Wiki user, so if anyone feels the urge, corrections and other such help are always welcome.

== Favorite Homestar Runner Type Quotes ==

"Smashing! No, I mean start smashing! Yes - it's curtains for you [[Wikipedia:Ming Vase|Ming vase]]!" ~[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]

"Only liars and thieves eat [[Grumblecakes]], and those people go to prison... Just ask The [[Cheat]]!" ~Cheat Cake Singers

"Look lively. LOOK LIVELY!" ~[[Mr. Shmallow]]

Talk:myths & legends

Triumvir — Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:00:14 GMT

Triumvir: Disagreeing with Reference

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

==Mentions of Sooldns==
It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where.
If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

==Elephantfooted Ghost man==
Is this some kind of reference that I am missing?
[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch. Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen." I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with [[King Dingo]]. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I may be mistaken, but I don't think that just because a bit resembles something in the real world it's definitely a reference to it. I mean, if some story of a guy shooting his computer was found, would we add that as a reference to [[virus]]? I don't think so. I think it's doubtful TBC were thinking of Australian dingo babynappers when they wrote the joke. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::So I guess this reference is going to be left up, in spite of the protests? Qermaq and I have argued (quite reasonably) that this 'real-world' reference is a huge stretch. The source of the saying on the t-shirt is obviously the line Strong Bad said earlier in the email. Further, I think that even if you argued that the line Strong Bad says is a reference to the dingo-baby case, you'd be stretching it. TheNicestGuy even made an argument in our favor - this was a reference to the legends in fairy-tales of babies being carried off by goblins, et al. Qermaq has made some excellent points - shall we vote? [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]]. Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

: I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys. I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show? They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him. Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell). While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the shoes, and I didn't see white sneakers with blue soles. It looked more like little gray lines. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

::The lyrics are here: [http://www.backyardgardener.com/loowit/song/song115.html] and a midi for the tune can be heard here: [http://www.christysclipart.com/campmidi/princesspat%5B1%5D.mid].--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 18:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople: 
''And if I had a choice in life'' 
''I'd take that mountain for my wife'' 
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm going to guess that it was because [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.

:As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out [[HRWiki:Standards]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to ''this'' email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he ''is'' a pseudocharacter who has a page. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a ''reference'' to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it? We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Gentlemen, gentlemen. He ''is'' linked, in Remarks; and the difference between him and the Mighty Warrior is that the latter has only appeared in one place before. If The Denzel showed up again, we'd probably mention [[bedtime story]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Shark-Tooth Bubs? ==

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] doll? That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well, while it ''is'' the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. {{User:Csours/sig}} 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear vs. Shark? ==

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

:Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MI. What are the odds? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Real-World References for [[date]] mentions a book called ''Bear v. Shark''. It was published in 2001, so it's possible that the book inspired both the band and the counter-measure separately. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom dog? ==

Does Homestar saying Pom Pom is his dog refwerence to Pom Pom's Character Page, and/or Biz Cas Fri? "My dog! My main man! My ace in the Hole!" Please tell me whatcha' think. Also, could Pom Pom "the dog" growling and pooping everywhere refer to how animals act different when something strange is heading their way? Your <s>onion</s> opinion is needed. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 21:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:"My dog Pom Pom" as a typical Homestar mangling of his own tendency to call everyone and everything, specifically including Pom Pom, his "dawg"? Sounds plausible to me. I would not call it obvious enough that it couldn't be unintentional, but probably worth mentioning.

:Growling and pooping? Well, um, yeah. That was kind of the whole point. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
i thought of the Carve-nival first thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear v. Radiohead ==

The shot glasses look like the Radiohead 'Kid A' logo.

There's a picture of it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bear20Big.gif .

:Yes they do, but only because they're both fairly primitive drawings of bears. Nothing compelling to connect them, I think. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with Rollercoasters in them Network ==

Currently the real world reference to this show includes home improvement shows like Monster House. However this could just as easily be a reference to shows like MTV Cribs which feature celebtrities and their outreageous homes.

== Cornsistency ==
Maybe it's just me, but I think there should be some consistency in the transcript for A/The/the Mighty Warrior. The cast list says "A", as does his bio, but the Easter egg and Inside Reference says the/The. My personal feeling is "A" works best, with a link to the definite article page, but I don't want to take that initiative without others' opinions. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sustained! (doink doink doink) More accurately, I think the Inside Reference one should change to "A", but I'm cool with the Easter Egg one in context (it lists the character in the dialogue line as "A MIGHTY WARRIOR," but speaks of "a frame of the Mighty Warrior..." To me that's okay. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::lol, the Easter Egg transcript is something I added after posting my original comment. Now the next step should be making a page [[Indefinite Article]], redirecting it to [[Definite Article]], and adding A Mighty Warrior to the page. Just a thought. (I'd do it myself, but I hate taking initiative and, well, I'm really tired right now.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Star Wars reference ==

Does anyone else think that one of Strong Bab's fence drawings looks suspiciously similar to one of those Star Wars starfighters, or whatever they're called? I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, so I can't name the exact one, but I'm almost completely sure I've seen something like that in a Star Wars movie. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Totally. It's called a TIE fighter, and it's already mentioned in Real-World References. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Auntie Ice Cream ==
I compared Aunt Gert to the ice cream snack. Both are brown. The ice cream has dark brown eyes, Gert has black and white eyes. The top of the ice cream is whitish-gray, the top of Gert is blue. In other words, are thay really all that similar? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:This is one of the few times I didn't bother to validate the fact before editing it. Probably should. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with monorails in them... ==

I think there was an episode of Ripley's Believe it or Not where they showed a guy that had built a functioning monorail that circled his backyard. That's the first thing that came to my mind when SB said "Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network". Anyone else remember that or think it might be worth a reference? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:myths & legends

Triumvir — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:17:49 GMT

Triumvir: disputing a reference

secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:35:48 GMT

Triumvir: /* Easter Eggs */

{{sbenav|142|death metal|some kinda robot}}

Chris from Laramie, Wyoming, asks Strong Bad if he has any secret identities. Strong Bad discusses several options.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], ...

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' January 25, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:42

==Transcript==
{{inprogress}}
''{Strong Bad types "strongbad_email.wad" and presses enter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Initiate sbemail-refresh damon.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: none</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Do you have a secret Identity? cause you know that 
would be the kinda rockin' cool thing you'd have. 
Chris 
Laramie, Wy 
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad sings "Wy" as "why" in a soft high-pitched voice.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Chris, let me be frank. The term "rockin' cool" is so uncool it makes my face hurt.

''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, now all the "rockin' cool"s are off the screen.

''{He shrieks as he realizes what he's typed, and clears the screen again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They're gone. Those things are vicious. Anyway Frank, I believe your question was about my secret identity. Well, let me ask you this: have you ever seen The Poopsmith and I in the same place at the same time?

''{Cut to a wide shot of the computer room. The Poopsmith is standing behind Strong Bad and to his right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dun dun DUUUNH! That's right! It is I who dons the crappy orange gloves and shovels—

''{The Poopsmith jabs Strong Bad a couple of times with his shovel. Strong Bad stops typing and turns to face him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the?! What are you ''doing'' here? ''{shakes his fist a little as he talks}'' You ruined my scam, man! I was gonna have all of everyone believing that I was you and that the teeming pile of whatsit was really a smoldering pile of money covered in whatsit. How'd you get in here anyways?

''{Homestar Runner approaches from the left side of the computer, holding a hamburger.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I let him in. ''{to The Poopsmith}'' Here you go. ''{hands him the hamburger}'' Oh, ''{angrily turns to face Strong Bad}'' and you're out of mayo.

''{Homestar and The Poopsmith exit toward the left. Strong Bad turns and addresses the camera.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Is there like a sign on my door that says ''{makes a sweeping gesture}'' "Wanted: Everyone I hate. Inquire within"?

''{The King of Town approaches from the right side of the computer.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I didn't see one.

''{Strong Bad utters some frustrated gibberish and turns back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{resumes typing}'' So apparently I'm not The Poopsmith. But I got lots of secret identities. Lately, I've been using this one: Tip Tappers: Expensive Briefcase Carrier. I use Mr. Tappers when I'm on tour and I want to check into a hotel and not be bothered by legions of fans.

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand—make that Bubs' ''Motor Lodge''—at night. On the sign is a neon caricature of Bubs' head with three neon Z's next to it, each of which light up in cascading fashon. Bubs is wearing a nametag and Strong Bad has with him a briefcase. A sign-in book is on the counter.}''

'''BUBS:''' And what name will this room be under?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, Tip Tappers, please. Unless some girl asks what room Strong Bad's in. And she's at least a seven out of ten. Or uh ''{thinks}'' six if she's naked.

'''BUBS:''' That'll be nine hundred dollars Mr. ''{clears his throat loudly}'' Tappers.

''{Homestar emerges from behind the building, carrying an empty ice bucket and dressed in a robe, a gold shirt, and pink bunny slippers.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Is there an ice machine around here?

'''BUBS:''' Certainly, Mr. Dee Williams.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And then there's Vance Mudgeman. I use that identity when I drop in on my secret second family over in Broiter Grove. Ahh, those kids love Daddy Mudgeman.

''{Cut to the trailer home. Strong Bad is sitting in a green armchair watching TV. He is wearing a grease-stained wife-beater T-shirt and has a couple of days' growth of beard stubble on his face.}''

'''STRONG BAD:'''

==Easter Eggs==
*After Strong Bad says "Laramie.....Why?", click on the phrase to get a book of the same name, written by Beverly and Lem Sportsinterviews
*After Strong Bad types "So apparently I'm not The Poopsmith," click on the phrase to see a picture of the Poopsmith with Strong Bad's head, feet, and hands.
*While Strong Bad is checking in to Bubs' Motor Lodge, click on the reservations book to see it up close.

==Fun Facts==

===Trivia===
*Bubs' marquee reads:
<pre>BUBS' MOTOR
LODGE
(in small lettering:)
FORMERLY BUBSO'S CONCES5ION STAND</pre>
*Bubs' nametag reads:
<pre>My Name
BUBS</pre>
*Homestar's shirt reads:
<pre>I (heart)
TOXIC
WASTE</pre>

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad does not type his customary filename (Strongbad_email.exe) to launch his email client.

===Inside References===
*The room in which Vance Mudgeman is sitting (with the moose lamp and "Born to be Danged" poster) is in a double-wide trailer, first seen in the email [[portrait]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:sbemail142.html|Watch "secret identity"]]
*[[HR:sbemail142.swf|View the Flash file for "secret identity"]]
*[[Forum:6836|forum thread re: "secret identity"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:42:40 GMT

Triumvir:

==Past our bedtimes==
It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success.[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You mean not counting the fact that I started the toon page several minutes before you posted anything? ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it let me create the page and found no conflicts when I did. I guess you just started editing it before me. :-) [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:41:09 GMT

Triumvir:

{{sbenav|142|death metal|some kinda robot}}

Chris from Laramie, Wy asks Strong Bad if he has any secret identities. Strong Bad discusses several options, such as Tip Tappers and Cara Carabowditbowdit.

==Transcript==
{{inprogress}}
''{Strong Bad types "strongbad_email.wad" and presses enter.}''

==Easter Eggs==

==Fun Facts==

===Inside References===
*The room in which Vance Mudgeman is sitting (with the moose lamp and "Born to be Danged" poster) is in a double-wide trailer, first seen in the email [[portrait]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:sbemail142.html|Watch "secret identity"]]
*[[HR:sbemail142.swf|View the Flash file for "secret identity"]]
*[[Forum:6836|forum thread re: "secret identity"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:31:19 GMT

Triumvir:

It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success.[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:30:12 GMT

Triumvir:

It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success. 10:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:29:04 GMT

Triumvir:

secret identity

Triumvir — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:28:14 GMT

Triumvir:

Talk:high school

Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:53:35 GMT

Triumvir: /* Dialogue questions */

==34 or 35?==
I count 34 days from December 5 to January 8, from [[portrait]] (te last major update) to [[highschool]], but everyone keeps changing it to 35. How can this be? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

==Dialogue questions==

Does anyone has an opinion of the dialogue might be in the following lines?

<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' {singing} It's an email, baby. (HERE)
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
'''BUBSAMECIUM:''' Certainly! Six tubes (HERE) of coming right up!
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
'''HOMESTARMECIUM:''' Oh, (HERE). Um, these are for my twin brother!
</blockquote>

'''EDIT:''' Just gotten word it may be '''Strongbadophage'''.

It would be great if anyone knew. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Here's one: I'd bet my important object that Bubsamecium is saying "rear-end cream". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:The "Bubsamecium" line sounds like "rear-end cream" to me. Provided the "(HERE)" was put in the right spot up there. Also, I think Baby Strong Sad said "Diapersmith" (as it's the baby Poopsmith and all...) -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Ditto that, YK. I'd further like to add that I think that the Strong Bad virus-looking thing is called "Strongbadophage". That's what I put on [[Twin Characters]]. I had to watch it several times to figure that out. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Absolutely no clue what the word after "It's an e-mail, baby!" is, though. Sounds like "lunge juice"... that can't be right. -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Sounds like "love juice" to me... Or "lunch juice". Which are just as weird. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::I heard "lunch juice" and thought I was nuts until I saw you guys had similar things. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Sigh—I feel a long and uncivil STUFF (or at least Talk battle) coming on. Currently the article reads "And the email baby loves juice". While this comes the closest to making any sense, it's just not what I hear. My hearing (though I don't assert it as the only possible one) is "It's a e-mail, baby! lunch juice." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Definitely think you guys are right - I heard "lunch juice" the first (and every) time I watched the email. It's weird, but I think it's correct. "It's an email, baby, lunch juice!" [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:46, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's another: On first viewing, I heard Baby Strong Bad's line as "I'm pretending I'm playing ''violent'' video games!" What's in the article is "''better'' video games"; on closer listening it ''does'' sound like that, but is pretty difficult to make out anyway. It could be "vinyl" as far as we can tell! So: "violent" certainly makes more sense. But is it simply for that reason (contextual suggestion) that I "heard" it? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:I heard better on multiple viewings {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::i agree with abdiviklas. it's what i heard. plus, we know half of the strong bad email intros don't make sense. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

SOUNDS! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
*[[Media:highschool_1.ogg|"It's an email, baby, lunch juice!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_2.ogg|"I'm pretending I'm playing better video games!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_3.ogg|"Certainly! Six tubes of rear-end cream coming right up!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_4.ogg|"Uh oh! It's Strongbadiophage! Um, uh... these are for my twin brother."]]
*[[Media:highschool_5.ogg|"Scampers! My long-lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious!"]]
:Ah, KieferSkunk comin' through, doin' his thing with the OGG files, he's gonna be king. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I'm asking for a challennnnnge. Specifically, I want to challenge the "et" in "pluckety", in "pluckety parameciums living in Free Petry Dish" etc. I listened with the volume up, and it sounds like this is another "doot-do" vs. "doo-doot do" issue. What someone evidently heard as an extra consonant just sounds like a slight waver in his voice, to me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I head "plucky" as well. For the videro games discussion, I listened to it again and Strong Bad says either "better video games" or "battle video games". And, I have one last thing to contradict: Don Knotts' line. I heard something along the lines of "Madley" rather than "Andy", though "Andy" makes a little sense. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

::Agree with you that it's "plucky." I think it's pretty clear that baby Strong bad said "better video games," but I could be wrong. As for Don Knott's line, I thought he sounded like he was saying "Really?" Anyone else hear that? [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

This could probably go without saying, but I think we need to consider all of the flashbacks from this toon (and probably the one from [[flashback]], too) to be apocryphal. They just don't jive with established continuity. I think [[stand-up]] probably actually happened in their timeline, as well as [[The Secrets That I Keep]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'll second that... Especially the paramecium bits. ;) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Indeed. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey, Strong Bad even *admits* here that he has a "very unphotographic memory". As if his flashback lies weren't obvious before, they are *now*. =P (BTW, is it just me, or does the "paramecium Homestar" resemble the Poopsmith more than Homestar? Weird misshapen eyes, odd mouth shape, few messy hairs... probably coincidence, but weird.) -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:58, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I say it's comparible to the movie ''Big Fish'', where real events are skewed and altered to make a more interesting story. [[User:TheRealZajac|TheRealZajac]]

::::Guy above me- leave your signature, please. Just type four ~'s. ''{edit:signed for}'' As for continuity, It's a comedy. I really don't ever remember seeing a comedy that had continuity. Sometimes the lack of continuity adds to the humor, although I wouldn't necessarily say it does for this. Maybe. Continuity is usually only important in serious plot drama and such. [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::There are lots of comedies that pay careful attention to continuity. ''[[IMDb:tt0285403|Scrubs]]'', for example. And TBC in general keep it pretty consistent. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:The Muppet Babies-style flashback in particular closely resembles the Muppet Babies show in terms of discontinuity. You have a collection of characters who are of varying ages in the original toon, PLUS other movies in the Muppet series that establish different scenarios of how the characters met each other. I think it's a parody of the Muppet chronology as much as it is Strong Bad's really bad memory.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The whole deal seems pretty simple to me. The first Easter egg sums it up. The first version of the Easter Egg shows what actually happened (and what we don't get to see in this email), while the second "doodle memory" version is comparable to what Strong Bad shows us. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Small question... ==

*Would it be of consequence to mention that this is the shortest [[Lappy 486]] email so far? -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 07:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
*it is? woah! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

We have a page just for that sort of information: [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]]. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Stampers! ==

I definitely hear an 's' in front of Marzipan's "dampers!" Does anyone else?[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 08:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too. I heard "scampers" more clearly than "dampers". It could have been "stampers". [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:35, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

*[[Media:highschool_5.ogg|"Scampers! My long-lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious!"]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:no. that is wrong. it is definitely stampers. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::Upon further review, I hear "Stampers" too. Still, this appears to be customary in such situations, so I'll put it to a vote:

'''If you hear "Stampers!", add your name to this numbered list:'''
#{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}}
#[[User:Seriously|Seriously]]
#-[[User:YK|YK]]
#[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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'''If you hear "Scampers!", add your name here:'''
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'''If you hear something else, add your name here and state what you hear:'''

== Accent on striped ==

Shouldn't the accent over the e in striped go upper-left to lower-right (the french ''accent grave'')?
:[[Wikipedia:Grave accent#Use in English]] suggests yes, although [[Wikipedia:Acute accent#Use in English]] seems contradictory. But my gut sides with you, IP. Changed accordingly. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

::Are we doing the same thing with "Stripe-ed Green Rabbit with Two Butts" for [[New Boots]]? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, we should totally use striped with accent on both articles. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sickly Sam Pillar ==

In the Easter egg at the end, when Sickly Sam coughs/wheezes and disappears, and the pillar appears in his place... Could this be a reference to something? Isn't there some sort of myth where people were turned into salt pillars? -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 17:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:There's the story of Lot's wife in the Bible, but I doubt there's a connection to this. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
::I'd be willing to give it a little consideration as a reference, but it would be a loose one at best, and I doubt it would survive a STUFF process. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I admit it occurred to me as well, but I don't think there's a real reference here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::That entire scene makes no sense whatsoever. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::this is probably just another instance of strong bad's apocryphal stortelling. probably doesn't have a reference.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
A comment from fark.com:
:2006-01-09 03:12:57 PM hoonis
:Strong-sad-ghost-in-rome is replaced by a DORIC column. get it? Doric.. Dorrr...kkk
Would be pretty obscure if true, but...

==Marz-lody==

Did anyone else see a resemblance to Melody from [[Mellow Mushroom]] in Marzipan's high school self? [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:40, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

yeah, though i don't know why they would make a reference to her. most people (not counting the wiki) do not know about the site, let alone their creation of it. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's what references are for. Inside jokes, sort of. Even if only TBC get it. [[User:Xyzzyka|Xyzzyka]] 21:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Something I think is more interesting, actually, is that this would be the <s>first</s> second time we've seen Marzipan's legs, even if the sequence isn't exactly canon. The first was on [[Main Page 17]] when 20X6 Marzipan starts jumping around. In both cases, though, these are character variations, and not Marzipan herself. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll agree with that... And, lemme tell ya, those legs creep me out... I'm just so used to Marzipan [[long pants#Easter Eggs|being a broom]]... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yeah. The voice is similar, too. I mean, more similar than usual.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Maybe, but it sounds to me like Missy was just going for a "cute girl" voice in both cases. 1936 Marzipan also sounds like this. I think Melody had a thicker southern accent, too. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 17:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was getting at. I could sense more "southern-ness" than usual.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Adventure ==

If Strong Bad was referring to the Atari Dragon, and it ate two of his pixels, he was probably playing Adventure, and the second pixel was probably the black dot that activated the easter egg.
:That sounds logical to me... Also, isn't that sound effect an Adventure noise? I can't quite place it, although I know I've heard it before... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The sound effect in question is used on H*R in two places: In [[Secret Collect]] when you hit a force field, and on [[Main Page 13]] for the Store button. I don't know which actual 2600 game it was used in, though - I don't think it was Adventure. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, whatever game it was in, now I'm-a add it to My Pride And Joy, [[Sound Effects]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
The game he was playing seemed like secret collect with that Duck-dragon thrown in. Think about it, there's that same noise, and your character in Secret Collect only has a couple of pixels, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Couldn't he have been playing Duck Pond? A duck eats pixels in that game.
::I don't think it's a bad thing in [[Duck Pond]], though. In context, Baby Strong Bad made it sound as if it was a bad thing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== cellular strong bad ==
guys, it sounds like homestar says "strongbadiophage." should that be the name, or is it just homestar calling strong bad stongo badio again? if homestar is, then yes, it would be perfectly logical to call him strongbadophage. but what if he isn't?[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Check the explanations. Strongbadiophage is based on a [[Wikipedia:Bacteriophage|bacteriophage]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

ah. thank you. that clears everything up.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Coach Z Hat==

Is it just me, or is Strong Bad wearing Coach Z's hat in High School? -- [[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
:Same style, different colour. Not precisely Coach Z's, but of the same brand, if you will. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:It seems kind of a lighter color, I guess. -[[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
::Lighter? It's completely different. Coach Z's is purple with a blue brim. This one is bright green with a bright fuschia-ish brim. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Page==

Are the "Middle School" Homestar characters worthy of a page? I'm just curious, because I made took some pictures out , sooo... -[[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
:I think we already put them in [[Stylized Character Designs]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Fine Figures?==
Do you guys think it's worth noting that this is practically GUARANTEED PROOF that Marzy's body isn't skirt-shaped? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]]
:No, because Marzipan's legs are seen courtesy of Strong Bad's "unphotographic memory" - implying that we can't rely on it to determine canon. (See [[#Marz-lody]] above.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Guitar==
[[Image:Highschool_band.PNG|thumb|Homestar's "Axe": Zakk Wylde or 70's Style?]]
does anyone else think that Homestar's guitar could be a reference to Zakk Wylde's famous axe? they both have a similar spiral design coming from the pickup areas...[[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Do you have a picture of this "famous axe" for comparison? I'd like to see before passing judgment. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::There are images of this "axe" available here: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zakk_Wylde Wikimedia Commons]. Probably the best photo in that bunch is this one: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Zakk_Wylde_1106.JPG].
::That said, I don't think these are related. Homestar's guitar more closely follows the general style of that era rather than a specific artist. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Agree. They share a similarity, but I'm guessing it's nothing specific. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Uploaded a screenshot from the Toon for more direct comparison. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Also, addressing Syndicate's original post: Zakk's axe actually has a bulls-eye pattern on it, not a spiral. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Baby Strong Bad's hat ==

[[Image:Baby_strong_bad.png|thumb|Baby Strong Bad's hat]] Baby Strong Bad's hat (see right) looks familiar...is it from some other cartoon? I was thinking [http://www.archiecomics.com/coloringbook/jughead/pages/jughead012_gif.htm Jughead], but it's different... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Reminds me of the ones Mickey Mouse's little nephews(?) wore... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's '''definately''' not Jughead's. Maybe you're on to something Dorian... {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I found this one by Googling. [http://www.thegremlin.com/DA/14465da.JPG] The hat's similar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::That must be what I'm thinking of--thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's kind of a cartoon convention, and one that always puzzled me as a kid. (And still does today, I guess.) Because I've ''never'' seen anyone wear a hat like that in real life. But yeah, Mickey's nephews, Jughead, I think somebody from Blondie... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:29, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Vomitorium explanation ==

The paragraph explaning the term vomitorium appears to be copied and pasted directly out of [[Wikipedia:Roman_eating_and_drinking#Vomitorium|Wikipedia]], but without the citation. Do we have a policy on this type of reproduction? Should it be paraphrased, or should the original citation be included? Would a link to Wikipedia suffice? -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 00:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think that paragraph should be shortened and provided with a link to Wikipedia. That's more our usual style, if I'm not mistaken. I'll do that ASAP if no one objects. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Is this a real email? ==

Is it?[[User:Ava|Ava]]

:Yeah. Of course it's a real email. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 00:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:While nothing says it has to STAY this way, the [[FAQ]] states that all of the published Strong Bad Emails are real, except for [[mile]], which was made up by The Cheat. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== More on striped ==

I referenced Strong Bad's recurring unique pronunciation of the word "striped," but it was reverted. I don't see why it shouldn't be an inside reference, or at least a remark. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 04:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The reason I reverted it is that we usually don't note recurrences of strange words or pronunciations. These are commonplace on H*R.com, and so we (or at least I) don't typically find them noteworthy. Also, it seems to me that Strong Bad's pronunciation of striped is not unique; I've heard it used outside of H*R.com several times. That said, I wouldn't want to act unilaterally, so if anyone thinks this should be noted, please do tell, or STUFF this or something. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think I'll lay off on this - dictionary.com has it as a legitimate pronunciation. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::For posterity, I would just like to get the fact in question into this talk page; while I guess our policy's our policy, I find it interesting that it was the same word each time. If it were just multiple instances of aspirating final syllables, Shakespeare-style, then I wouldn't find it so notable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::*Strong Bad similarly emphasizes the ''e'' in the word "striped" when referring to The Cheat as a [[Striped Green Rabbit]] in [[New Boots]] and to the striped worm named "Erweenga" in [[That Time of Year]].
:At first I didn't think about this issue, but I actually agree, Terlet Brush. First of all, when I listened to it again, I detected that Strong Bad and Homestar put unusual emphasis on the word. It's more like "''stripe''-ed" than "stripèd" (as it's listed). It just doesn't sound quite natural. Also, Strong Bad referred to the bird that flew by at the end of "Huttah" as, "my wingèd friend". I think there is a good case for mentioning Strong Bad's pronunciation of the -ed suffix somewhere, though not necessarily here. The [[Foreign words]] section is the closest thing I could find, but it would have to be expanded into a "mispronounced words" section. I think the deciding factor is whether anyone can find an instance of "striped" (or maybe a similar word) pronounced the common way in one of the 'toons or interviews. --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:: "Stripèd" is correct; it's based on Old English pronunciations, which would sometimes pronounce the "E" in an -ed ending when we don't. The accent has nothing whatsoever to do with where the stress on the word is pronounced - English generally follows French's rules regarding accents, where accents determine how you pronounce the vowel, not where the stress on the word is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I know it's correct, but I'm saying that Strong Bad additionally emphasizes the word strangely. Strong bad could have just said "stripèd", but no, he said "STRIPE-èd" every time. You see what I'm saying? The emphasis implies that it's a joke since I can't imagine someone normally saying "stripèd" with so much emphasis on "stripe". It's a little bit like how Strong Sad contorts his face when he tries to pronounce "baklava". It's a sign that TBC are intentionally pronouncing that way for humor.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 00:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Biology ==

Two Things: [[User:Plastic Chicken|Plastic Chicken]] 04:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

a) More specifically, Strong Bad looks like a T-Even bacteriophage. (IIRC the T bacteriophages were numbered in order of discovery and the even ones happened to look alike.)

b) Paramecium are eukaryotes, and therefore reproduce by mitosis (technically, mitosis followed by cytokinesis -- mitosis is only the process of separating the DNA after it has been duplicated. Muscles cells (for example) become multinucleated by lots of mitotic divisions that are NOT followed by splitting the cytoplasm). Binary fission is a different process limited to prokaryotes (bacteria).
:Thanks, P.C.; I'd seen that go back and forth several times. Most recently the explanation was that since Homestarmecium lacked a nucleus he was unable to commit mitosis; now biology is thin ice for me, but I might suppose that the logical conclusion is rather that he's simply an inaccurately-portrayed paramecium. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The page at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Protists_%28General_Biology%29#Ciliophora:_Ciliates, as well as all the other pages I can find on ciliates, the family of which Paramecium are a part, say they have a macronucleus that is not very well defined from the rest of the cell, and that they undergo binary fission to reproduce, and cunjugation involving a smaller nucleus in order to spread their genes around. They are technically eukaryotic, but since they have a [[Wikipedia:Macronucleus|Macronucleus]] they are unlike most of their brethren. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciliates also mentions that "Division of the macronucleus does not occur by a mitotic process" I get the feeling that very few people will care about this in the end, even fewer than those that recognised strongbad as a t-even phage —[[User:Garglfluz|Garglfluz]] 11 January 2006
::Actually, Garglefluz, I didn't notice your earlier comment here and posted something related [[#I'm just silly about ciliates|below]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Preserved for posterity==
There were a couple of edits that got reverted; I wanted to save them from oblivion and preserve them here on the talk page, since I at least found them intriguing and noteworthy, if not worthy of inclusion in the article.
*Homestar as the matronly nursery character saying "Now you children skedaddle" is a reference and a hybrid of both Nanny from [[Wikipedia:Muppet Babies|Muppet Babies]] and the Mammy-Two-Shoes character from the massively successful series of theatrical short cartoons [[Wikipedia:Tom and Jerry|Tom and Jerry]]. The costume and dialogue are indicative of Tom's [[Wikipedia:African American|African American]] owner, who usually wallops the cat with a broom when he misbehaves. "Nanny" was a kind mentor only shown from the waist down.
*The Old Timey Romans Easter Egg may be a reference to "The Roman Holidays", a Hanna-Barbera animated sitcom from the 1970s. Like "The Flintstones" and "The Jetsons", the basic premise was "funny business in another time period".
On the Nanny/Mammy fact, I ''am'' pretty sold on its validity, though I'd prefer it rewritten (e.g. "Homestar... (bla bla) wast down... (bla bla) ...characters in many cartoons, most notably Nanny in Muppet Babies and various owners in Tom & Jerry (bla bla)"), preferably a little more streamlined (losing phrases like "massively successful series of theatrical short"). The Muppet Babies connection I see as justified by the overall allusion; the Tom & Jerry connection by the broom and nature of the line (Nanny never had a broom, right?). Note that Mammy was later replaced by the feet of a Caucasian owner, so she wasn't the only one in Tom & Jerry portrayed at that angle. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

It could be Homestar's Dad. Or Uncle. [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 12:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or mom for that matter. But I think it's Homestar, and ''his'' age gap would make the Coach Z discrepency far less strange! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I thought the same thing as Abdi when I saw the toon, and I'm sure this is a reference to Mammy. And you know, SB is probably making it all up with his doodle memory... [[User:Kiki|Kiki]] 17:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Atari 2600 SFX ==

When Baby Strong Bad is playing the video game, the sound effects used there are also used in [[Secret Collect]] (first and third effects), and also on [[Main Page 13]] (all three). The first sound effect is repeated twice.

I removed a Fun Fact that said these sound effects were from the Atari 2600 version of Pac Man. They aren't - trust me. But for reference, there are two sound effects on [[Main Page 13]] that ARE taken from that game: When you mouse off of the Characters button and Strong Bad disappears (effect is played while the ghosts are under the effect of a power pill), and the "donk!" sound on the Downloads button is the sound played when you eat a dot.

I don't know exactly which games the SFX in this cartoon came from, but I can say with high certainty (with my much-more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory) that they're not Pac Man. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Flashback? ==

Another remark reads:

* In his flashback, Strong Bad recalls Coach Z being up to 2 years older than himself, but in the video Strong Sad showed in [[stand-up]], Coach Z was already an adult when Strong Bad was a little kid.

What flashback? Where did Strong Bad say Coach Z was 2 years older than himself? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The "flashback" may be his "doodle memorys", but I have no clue where he says Coach Z is two years older then him. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that person was just guessing by looks. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter egg pic ==

[[Image:Unphotographic.png|thumb|100px|doodle]]
Why is there a picture of the "doodle memory" Easter egg (shown to the right) actually listed in the Easter egg section? I thought we only did that when the picture was hard to see or went by too fast or the words were hard to click on. This one doesn't seem to meet any of those criteria. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno, but I appreciate the chance to see it. It go by too fast for ''me'', anyway. (And no, I didn't upload it. Goes by too fast, remember?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] has a picture of one of its Easter eggs, and that egg is visible for a similar amount of time. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:It went way to fast for me. All I could tell was that Strong Bad robbed a safe. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Should The Cheat be listed in the cast for this email? [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:Yeah, under Easter Egg. I'll list it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

==Really Unphotographic==
Something must be seriously wrong with SB's memory. How else could he be Homestar's age in highschool, yet be a baby with Homestar as a nanny? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 20:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. Please see the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:highschool&oldid=234570 comment] immediately prior to yours, as well as the last couple in [[Talk:highschool#Preserved for posterity|Preserved for posterity]] above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Tamborine? ==

I don't hear any of Marzipan's tamborine in the band part. Am I alone? If not, is this a goof? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I say remark. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bubsamecium's Protazoa Spelling ==

I can't get the mirror to load, so unfortunately I'm unable to verify this, but I could have sworn that when this email was released, Bub5amecium's Protozoa Stand was spelled "PROTAZOA" rather than "PROTOZOA". I actually watched the toon specifically to verify the incorrect spelling, but now the official copy of the email has it spelled correctly. Did anyone else also see "PROTAZOA" earlier on? If so, and/or if the mirror is "out of date" and therefore shows an older version, and that can verify this claim, we should mention the spelling mistake in Goofs, along with the fact that it has since been corrected. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Got the mirror to load - spelling is "PROTOZOA" in that version. That also has the "Strong Mad's fist between Marzipan's thighs" goof fixed, so it's probably just as up-to-date as the official version. No help there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I downloaded the flash file shortly after it was released (within the hour), so it still has both the Strong Mad's hand glitch and the Strong Bad's reflection glitch, but "Bub5amecium's Protozoa Stand" is still spelled "PROTOZOA" in that version. So if there was a goof there, it was fixed immediately, I guess. -[[User:YK|YK]] 22:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, I probably just mis-remembered, then. So much for my more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Don Knotts Reference ==

Was there any reason for the Don Knotts reference? Strong Bad mentioned his appearing after he said they lived in roman times. Was there a relationship between Don Knotts and Roman times or something that I missed? I don't ever remember seeing any Don Knotts movies or anything based in Rome. Also, I didn't see it mentioned in the wiki, but when Don Knotts showed up in the easter egg, his voice sounded like Coach Z's. Would this be worth mentioning in the wiki?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 03:20, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it was because he appeared in two Scooby-Doo episodes, the old ones where they always had TV characters every episode. Knotts was one a couple of those. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::From Don's IMDB entry: "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" playing "Himself" (voice) in episode: "The Spooky Fog" (episode # 1.9) 4 November 1972 and "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" playing "Himself" (voice) in episode: "Guess Who's Knott Coming to Dinner?" (episode # 1.5) 7 October 1972 -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 21:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth explaining specifically that when Don Knotts says "Andy?" he is addressing Andy Griffiths?

== Possible M&M reference ==

It might just be becuse I'm really hungry, but Strong Mad looks like an M&M in this one with the "m" on his chest being lowercase (and possibly the period after it) and his stomach being quite round. Think this is worth a mention? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:The "m" is in the same style as an M&M - it's possible, but I'm not sure if it qualifies... {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:47, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::Now that I know It's not totally zany, I'll STUFF it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Despite my sarcasm on the STUFF page, I do hand it to you that I can see it being a reference to the blue m&m character. Especially given the unwonted noncubicness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==I'm just silly about ciliates==
Okay, a venting that's been building up for a while now about the Homestarmecium biology entries: first of all, if the only thing that keeps him from being a paramecium is the absence of nuclei, then the reasonable conclusion is that TBC mean for him to be one but failed to draw them (yeah, they have two; I just learned something by reading the Wikip. article!). Secondly—can we be sure the little blobs depicted in him ''aren't'' the nuclei? Thirdly: if he's a ciliate it does ''indeed'' matter; I'm out of my depth here, but I don't think there are any bacteria that are ciliates. If I understand the article, ciliates are by definition eukaryotic. Meaning he's ''not'' a bacterium. Granted, he's just got that one "hairy" patch on top; it may or may not be taken as making him a ciliate. Bottom line: I think he's supposed to be a paramecium, and any statements about his prokaryoticism (is that a word?) or lack of nuclei should be worded more tentatively, with "might be"s instead of absolute statements. 
Perhaps a better Fun Fact: SB introduces them ''all'' as "a bunch of plucky parameciums", but nobody's suggested that Strongbadiophage is supposed to be one! And Bubs even shares the ''-amecium'' name ending, but has even less claim to nuclei (unless his eyes are the micro- and macronuclei—hm...), plus an even poorer attempt at cilia! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:55, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:It's also quite possible that Strong Bad committed the same error that a lot of beginning biology students do - refer to "all" microorganisms as paramecia. I remember that being quite common back in school - the teacher would frequently remind us that paramecia are a specific type of microorganism, and a more appropriate "macro" term would be "protozoa". So even though Strong Bad called the whole gang a bunch of "parameciums", the drawings suggest otherwise. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Keyboard Strong Bad==
I'm going out on a limb here, but does anyone think that the teenage Strong Bad playing the keyboard is a reference to Keyboard Strong Bad from Sweet Cuppin Cakes? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 19:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. I think that's quite a stretch. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::It's not article fodder, but it's an interesting line of thought. The instrument traditionally associated with SB has always been the guitar. Keyboard has been more the domain of The Cheat, as ascribed in [[guitar]] and witnessed in [[sibbie]], [[Everybody Knows It]], [[flag day]], and so forth. It is intriguing that Strong Bad's previous involvement with the keyboard was either ameliorated by a testosterone-boosting crosspolination with a sword and guitar in the Key-sword-tar or relegated to the Kafka-esque mutation in which he wears the keyboard as a head, avoiding the "nerd of the band" stereotype associated with ''playing'' the keyboard by subsuming, if you will, its nature directly ''into'' himself—facing the problem "head" on. This, then, is the first time he's actually been seen—as his own, agentic entity—''playing'' the keyboard. One might assume that, like the dirtiest diapey, this is one accomplishment he is not content to leave forgotten. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:high school

Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:52:11 GMT

Triumvir: /* Dialogue questions */

==34 or 35?==
I count 34 days from December 5 to January 8, from [[portrait]] (te last major update) to [[highschool]], but everyone keeps changing it to 35. How can this be? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

==Dialogue questions==

Does anyone has an opinion of the dialogue might be in the following lines?

<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' {singing} It's an email, baby. (HERE)
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
'''BUBSAMECIUM:''' Certainly! Six tubes (HERE) of coming right up!
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
'''HOMESTARMECIUM:''' Oh, (HERE). Um, these are for my twin brother!
</blockquote>

'''EDIT:''' Just gotten word it may be '''Strongbadophage'''.

It would be great if anyone knew. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Here's one: I'd bet my important object that Bubsamecium is saying "rear-end cream". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:The "Bubsamecium" line sounds like "rear-end cream" to me. Provided the "(HERE)" was put in the right spot up there. Also, I think Baby Strong Sad said "Diapersmith" (as it's the baby Poopsmith and all...) -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Ditto that, YK. I'd further like to add that I think that the Strong Bad virus-looking thing is called "Strongbadophage". That's what I put on [[Twin Characters]]. I had to watch it several times to figure that out. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Absolutely no clue what the word after "It's an e-mail, baby!" is, though. Sounds like "lunge juice"... that can't be right. -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Sounds like "love juice" to me... Or "lunch juice". Which are just as weird. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::I heard "lunch juice" and thought I was nuts until I saw you guys had similar things. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Sigh—I feel a long and uncivil STUFF (or at least Talk battle) coming on. Currently the article reads "And the email baby loves juice". While this comes the closest to making any sense, it's just not what I hear. My hearing (though I don't assert it as the only possible one) is "It's a e-mail, baby! lunch juice." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Definitely think you guys are right - I heard "lunch juice" the first (and every) time I watched the email. It's weird, but I think it's correct. "It's an email, baby, lunch juice!" [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:46, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's another: On first viewing, I heard Baby Strong Bad's line as "I'm pretending I'm playing ''violent'' video games!" What's in the article is "''better'' video games"; on closer listening it ''does'' sound like that, but is pretty difficult to make out anyway. It could be "vinyl" as far as we can tell! So: "violent" certainly makes more sense. But is it simply for that reason (contextual suggestion) that I "heard" it? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:I heard better on multiple viewings {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::i agree with abdiviklas. it's what i heard. plus, we know half of the strong bad email intros don't make sense. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

SOUNDS! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
*[[Media:highschool_1.ogg|"It's an email, baby, lunch juice!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_2.ogg|"I'm pretending I'm playing better video games!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_3.ogg|"Certainly! Six tubes of rear-end cream coming right up!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_4.ogg|"Uh oh! It's Strongbadiophage! Um, uh... these are for my twin brother."]]
*[[Media:highschool_5.ogg|"Scampers! My long-lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious!"]]
:Ah, KieferSkunk comin' through, doin' his thing with the OGG files, he's gonna be king. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I'm asking for a challennnnnge. Specifically, I want to challenge the "et" in "pluckety", in "pluckety parameciums living in Free Petry Dish" etc. I listened with the volume up, and it sounds like this is another "doot-do" vs. "doo-doot do" issue. What someone evidently heard as an extra consonant just sounds like a slight waver in his voice, to me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I head "plucky" as well. For the videro games discussion, I listened to it again and Strong Bad says either "better video games" or "battle video games". And, I have one last thing to contradict: Don Knotts' line. I heard something along the lines of "Madley" rather than "Andy", though "Andy" makes a little sense. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::Agree with you that it's "plucky." I think it's pretty clear that baby Strong bad said "better video games," but I could be wrong. As for Don Knott's line, I thought he sounded like he was saying "Really?" Anyone else hear that? [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

This could probably go without saying, but I think we need to consider all of the flashbacks from this toon (and probably the one from [[flashback]], too) to be apocryphal. They just don't jive with established continuity. I think [[stand-up]] probably actually happened in their timeline, as well as [[The Secrets That I Keep]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'll second that... Especially the paramecium bits. ;) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Indeed. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey, Strong Bad even *admits* here that he has a "very unphotographic memory". As if his flashback lies weren't obvious before, they are *now*. =P (BTW, is it just me, or does the "paramecium Homestar" resemble the Poopsmith more than Homestar? Weird misshapen eyes, odd mouth shape, few messy hairs... probably coincidence, but weird.) -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:58, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I say it's comparible to the movie ''Big Fish'', where real events are skewed and altered to make a more interesting story. [[User:TheRealZajac|TheRealZajac]]

::::Guy above me- leave your signature, please. Just type four ~'s. ''{edit:signed for}'' As for continuity, It's a comedy. I really don't ever remember seeing a comedy that had continuity. Sometimes the lack of continuity adds to the humor, although I wouldn't necessarily say it does for this. Maybe. Continuity is usually only important in serious plot drama and such. [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::There are lots of comedies that pay careful attention to continuity. ''[[IMDb:tt0285403|Scrubs]]'', for example. And TBC in general keep it pretty consistent. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:The Muppet Babies-style flashback in particular closely resembles the Muppet Babies show in terms of discontinuity. You have a collection of characters who are of varying ages in the original toon, PLUS other movies in the Muppet series that establish different scenarios of how the characters met each other. I think it's a parody of the Muppet chronology as much as it is Strong Bad's really bad memory.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The whole deal seems pretty simple to me. The first Easter egg sums it up. The first version of the Easter Egg shows what actually happened (and what we don't get to see in this email), while the second "doodle memory" version is comparable to what Strong Bad shows us. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Small question... ==

*Would it be of consequence to mention that this is the shortest [[Lappy 486]] email so far? -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 07:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
*it is? woah! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

We have a page just for that sort of information: [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]]. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Stampers! ==

I definitely hear an 's' in front of Marzipan's "dampers!" Does anyone else?[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 08:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too. I heard "scampers" more clearly than "dampers". It could have been "stampers". [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:35, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

*[[Media:highschool_5.ogg|"Scampers! My long-lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious!"]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:no. that is wrong. it is definitely stampers. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::Upon further review, I hear "Stampers" too. Still, this appears to be customary in such situations, so I'll put it to a vote:

'''If you hear "Stampers!", add your name to this numbered list:'''
#{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}}
#[[User:Seriously|Seriously]]
#-[[User:YK|YK]]
#[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#{{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}}
#[[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]]
#{{User:Bubsty/sig}}
#[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
#[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
#{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}
#[[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]]
#{{User: Theforumveteran/sig}}
#{{User:Has Matt?/sig}}
'''If you hear "Scampers!", add your name here:'''
#[[User:Catman87|Catman87]]

'''If you hear something else, add your name here and state what you hear:'''

== Accent on striped ==

Shouldn't the accent over the e in striped go upper-left to lower-right (the french ''accent grave'')?
:[[Wikipedia:Grave accent#Use in English]] suggests yes, although [[Wikipedia:Acute accent#Use in English]] seems contradictory. But my gut sides with you, IP. Changed accordingly. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

::Are we doing the same thing with "Stripe-ed Green Rabbit with Two Butts" for [[New Boots]]? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, we should totally use striped with accent on both articles. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sickly Sam Pillar ==

In the Easter egg at the end, when Sickly Sam coughs/wheezes and disappears, and the pillar appears in his place... Could this be a reference to something? Isn't there some sort of myth where people were turned into salt pillars? -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 17:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:There's the story of Lot's wife in the Bible, but I doubt there's a connection to this. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
::I'd be willing to give it a little consideration as a reference, but it would be a loose one at best, and I doubt it would survive a STUFF process. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I admit it occurred to me as well, but I don't think there's a real reference here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::That entire scene makes no sense whatsoever. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::this is probably just another instance of strong bad's apocryphal stortelling. probably doesn't have a reference.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
A comment from fark.com:
:2006-01-09 03:12:57 PM hoonis
:Strong-sad-ghost-in-rome is replaced by a DORIC column. get it? Doric.. Dorrr...kkk
Would be pretty obscure if true, but...

==Marz-lody==

Did anyone else see a resemblance to Melody from [[Mellow Mushroom]] in Marzipan's high school self? [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:40, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

yeah, though i don't know why they would make a reference to her. most people (not counting the wiki) do not know about the site, let alone their creation of it. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's what references are for. Inside jokes, sort of. Even if only TBC get it. [[User:Xyzzyka|Xyzzyka]] 21:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Something I think is more interesting, actually, is that this would be the <s>first</s> second time we've seen Marzipan's legs, even if the sequence isn't exactly canon. The first was on [[Main Page 17]] when 20X6 Marzipan starts jumping around. In both cases, though, these are character variations, and not Marzipan herself. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll agree with that... And, lemme tell ya, those legs creep me out... I'm just so used to Marzipan [[long pants#Easter Eggs|being a broom]]... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yeah. The voice is similar, too. I mean, more similar than usual.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Maybe, but it sounds to me like Missy was just going for a "cute girl" voice in both cases. 1936 Marzipan also sounds like this. I think Melody had a thicker southern accent, too. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 17:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was getting at. I could sense more "southern-ness" than usual.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Adventure ==

If Strong Bad was referring to the Atari Dragon, and it ate two of his pixels, he was probably playing Adventure, and the second pixel was probably the black dot that activated the easter egg.
:That sounds logical to me... Also, isn't that sound effect an Adventure noise? I can't quite place it, although I know I've heard it before... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The sound effect in question is used on H*R in two places: In [[Secret Collect]] when you hit a force field, and on [[Main Page 13]] for the Store button. I don't know which actual 2600 game it was used in, though - I don't think it was Adventure. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, whatever game it was in, now I'm-a add it to My Pride And Joy, [[Sound Effects]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
The game he was playing seemed like secret collect with that Duck-dragon thrown in. Think about it, there's that same noise, and your character in Secret Collect only has a couple of pixels, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Couldn't he have been playing Duck Pond? A duck eats pixels in that game.
::I don't think it's a bad thing in [[Duck Pond]], though. In context, Baby Strong Bad made it sound as if it was a bad thing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== cellular strong bad ==
guys, it sounds like homestar says "strongbadiophage." should that be the name, or is it just homestar calling strong bad stongo badio again? if homestar is, then yes, it would be perfectly logical to call him strongbadophage. but what if he isn't?[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Check the explanations. Strongbadiophage is based on a [[Wikipedia:Bacteriophage|bacteriophage]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

ah. thank you. that clears everything up.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Coach Z Hat==

Is it just me, or is Strong Bad wearing Coach Z's hat in High School? -- [[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
:Same style, different colour. Not precisely Coach Z's, but of the same brand, if you will. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:It seems kind of a lighter color, I guess. -[[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
::Lighter? It's completely different. Coach Z's is purple with a blue brim. This one is bright green with a bright fuschia-ish brim. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Page==

Are the "Middle School" Homestar characters worthy of a page? I'm just curious, because I made took some pictures out , sooo... -[[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
:I think we already put them in [[Stylized Character Designs]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Fine Figures?==
Do you guys think it's worth noting that this is practically GUARANTEED PROOF that Marzy's body isn't skirt-shaped? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]]
:No, because Marzipan's legs are seen courtesy of Strong Bad's "unphotographic memory" - implying that we can't rely on it to determine canon. (See [[#Marz-lody]] above.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Guitar==
[[Image:Highschool_band.PNG|thumb|Homestar's "Axe": Zakk Wylde or 70's Style?]]
does anyone else think that Homestar's guitar could be a reference to Zakk Wylde's famous axe? they both have a similar spiral design coming from the pickup areas...[[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Do you have a picture of this "famous axe" for comparison? I'd like to see before passing judgment. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::There are images of this "axe" available here: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zakk_Wylde Wikimedia Commons]. Probably the best photo in that bunch is this one: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Zakk_Wylde_1106.JPG].
::That said, I don't think these are related. Homestar's guitar more closely follows the general style of that era rather than a specific artist. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Agree. They share a similarity, but I'm guessing it's nothing specific. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Uploaded a screenshot from the Toon for more direct comparison. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Also, addressing Syndicate's original post: Zakk's axe actually has a bulls-eye pattern on it, not a spiral. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Baby Strong Bad's hat ==

[[Image:Baby_strong_bad.png|thumb|Baby Strong Bad's hat]] Baby Strong Bad's hat (see right) looks familiar...is it from some other cartoon? I was thinking [http://www.archiecomics.com/coloringbook/jughead/pages/jughead012_gif.htm Jughead], but it's different... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Reminds me of the ones Mickey Mouse's little nephews(?) wore... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's '''definately''' not Jughead's. Maybe you're on to something Dorian... {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I found this one by Googling. [http://www.thegremlin.com/DA/14465da.JPG] The hat's similar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::That must be what I'm thinking of--thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's kind of a cartoon convention, and one that always puzzled me as a kid. (And still does today, I guess.) Because I've ''never'' seen anyone wear a hat like that in real life. But yeah, Mickey's nephews, Jughead, I think somebody from Blondie... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:29, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Vomitorium explanation ==

The paragraph explaning the term vomitorium appears to be copied and pasted directly out of [[Wikipedia:Roman_eating_and_drinking#Vomitorium|Wikipedia]], but without the citation. Do we have a policy on this type of reproduction? Should it be paraphrased, or should the original citation be included? Would a link to Wikipedia suffice? -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 00:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think that paragraph should be shortened and provided with a link to Wikipedia. That's more our usual style, if I'm not mistaken. I'll do that ASAP if no one objects. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Is this a real email? ==

Is it?[[User:Ava|Ava]]

:Yeah. Of course it's a real email. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 00:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:While nothing says it has to STAY this way, the [[FAQ]] states that all of the published Strong Bad Emails are real, except for [[mile]], which was made up by The Cheat. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== More on striped ==

I referenced Strong Bad's recurring unique pronunciation of the word "striped," but it was reverted. I don't see why it shouldn't be an inside reference, or at least a remark. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 04:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The reason I reverted it is that we usually don't note recurrences of strange words or pronunciations. These are commonplace on H*R.com, and so we (or at least I) don't typically find them noteworthy. Also, it seems to me that Strong Bad's pronunciation of striped is not unique; I've heard it used outside of H*R.com several times. That said, I wouldn't want to act unilaterally, so if anyone thinks this should be noted, please do tell, or STUFF this or something. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think I'll lay off on this - dictionary.com has it as a legitimate pronunciation. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::For posterity, I would just like to get the fact in question into this talk page; while I guess our policy's our policy, I find it interesting that it was the same word each time. If it were just multiple instances of aspirating final syllables, Shakespeare-style, then I wouldn't find it so notable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::*Strong Bad similarly emphasizes the ''e'' in the word "striped" when referring to The Cheat as a [[Striped Green Rabbit]] in [[New Boots]] and to the striped worm named "Erweenga" in [[That Time of Year]].
:At first I didn't think about this issue, but I actually agree, Terlet Brush. First of all, when I listened to it again, I detected that Strong Bad and Homestar put unusual emphasis on the word. It's more like "''stripe''-ed" than "stripèd" (as it's listed). It just doesn't sound quite natural. Also, Strong Bad referred to the bird that flew by at the end of "Huttah" as, "my wingèd friend". I think there is a good case for mentioning Strong Bad's pronunciation of the -ed suffix somewhere, though not necessarily here. The [[Foreign words]] section is the closest thing I could find, but it would have to be expanded into a "mispronounced words" section. I think the deciding factor is whether anyone can find an instance of "striped" (or maybe a similar word) pronounced the common way in one of the 'toons or interviews. --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:: "Stripèd" is correct; it's based on Old English pronunciations, which would sometimes pronounce the "E" in an -ed ending when we don't. The accent has nothing whatsoever to do with where the stress on the word is pronounced - English generally follows French's rules regarding accents, where accents determine how you pronounce the vowel, not where the stress on the word is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I know it's correct, but I'm saying that Strong Bad additionally emphasizes the word strangely. Strong bad could have just said "stripèd", but no, he said "STRIPE-èd" every time. You see what I'm saying? The emphasis implies that it's a joke since I can't imagine someone normally saying "stripèd" with so much emphasis on "stripe". It's a little bit like how Strong Sad contorts his face when he tries to pronounce "baklava". It's a sign that TBC are intentionally pronouncing that way for humor.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 00:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Biology ==

Two Things: [[User:Plastic Chicken|Plastic Chicken]] 04:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

a) More specifically, Strong Bad looks like a T-Even bacteriophage. (IIRC the T bacteriophages were numbered in order of discovery and the even ones happened to look alike.)

b) Paramecium are eukaryotes, and therefore reproduce by mitosis (technically, mitosis followed by cytokinesis -- mitosis is only the process of separating the DNA after it has been duplicated. Muscles cells (for example) become multinucleated by lots of mitotic divisions that are NOT followed by splitting the cytoplasm). Binary fission is a different process limited to prokaryotes (bacteria).
:Thanks, P.C.; I'd seen that go back and forth several times. Most recently the explanation was that since Homestarmecium lacked a nucleus he was unable to commit mitosis; now biology is thin ice for me, but I might suppose that the logical conclusion is rather that he's simply an inaccurately-portrayed paramecium. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The page at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Protists_%28General_Biology%29#Ciliophora:_Ciliates, as well as all the other pages I can find on ciliates, the family of which Paramecium are a part, say they have a macronucleus that is not very well defined from the rest of the cell, and that they undergo binary fission to reproduce, and cunjugation involving a smaller nucleus in order to spread their genes around. They are technically eukaryotic, but since they have a [[Wikipedia:Macronucleus|Macronucleus]] they are unlike most of their brethren. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciliates also mentions that "Division of the macronucleus does not occur by a mitotic process" I get the feeling that very few people will care about this in the end, even fewer than those that recognised strongbad as a t-even phage —[[User:Garglfluz|Garglfluz]] 11 January 2006
::Actually, Garglefluz, I didn't notice your earlier comment here and posted something related [[#I'm just silly about ciliates|below]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Preserved for posterity==
There were a couple of edits that got reverted; I wanted to save them from oblivion and preserve them here on the talk page, since I at least found them intriguing and noteworthy, if not worthy of inclusion in the article.
*Homestar as the matronly nursery character saying "Now you children skedaddle" is a reference and a hybrid of both Nanny from [[Wikipedia:Muppet Babies|Muppet Babies]] and the Mammy-Two-Shoes character from the massively successful series of theatrical short cartoons [[Wikipedia:Tom and Jerry|Tom and Jerry]]. The costume and dialogue are indicative of Tom's [[Wikipedia:African American|African American]] owner, who usually wallops the cat with a broom when he misbehaves. "Nanny" was a kind mentor only shown from the waist down.
*The Old Timey Romans Easter Egg may be a reference to "The Roman Holidays", a Hanna-Barbera animated sitcom from the 1970s. Like "The Flintstones" and "The Jetsons", the basic premise was "funny business in another time period".
On the Nanny/Mammy fact, I ''am'' pretty sold on its validity, though I'd prefer it rewritten (e.g. "Homestar... (bla bla) wast down... (bla bla) ...characters in many cartoons, most notably Nanny in Muppet Babies and various owners in Tom & Jerry (bla bla)"), preferably a little more streamlined (losing phrases like "massively successful series of theatrical short"). The Muppet Babies connection I see as justified by the overall allusion; the Tom & Jerry connection by the broom and nature of the line (Nanny never had a broom, right?). Note that Mammy was later replaced by the feet of a Caucasian owner, so she wasn't the only one in Tom & Jerry portrayed at that angle. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

It could be Homestar's Dad. Or Uncle. [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 12:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or mom for that matter. But I think it's Homestar, and ''his'' age gap would make the Coach Z discrepency far less strange! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I thought the same thing as Abdi when I saw the toon, and I'm sure this is a reference to Mammy. And you know, SB is probably making it all up with his doodle memory... [[User:Kiki|Kiki]] 17:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Atari 2600 SFX ==

When Baby Strong Bad is playing the video game, the sound effects used there are also used in [[Secret Collect]] (first and third effects), and also on [[Main Page 13]] (all three). The first sound effect is repeated twice.

I removed a Fun Fact that said these sound effects were from the Atari 2600 version of Pac Man. They aren't - trust me. But for reference, there are two sound effects on [[Main Page 13]] that ARE taken from that game: When you mouse off of the Characters button and Strong Bad disappears (effect is played while the ghosts are under the effect of a power pill), and the "donk!" sound on the Downloads button is the sound played when you eat a dot.

I don't know exactly which games the SFX in this cartoon came from, but I can say with high certainty (with my much-more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory) that they're not Pac Man. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Flashback? ==

Another remark reads:

* In his flashback, Strong Bad recalls Coach Z being up to 2 years older than himself, but in the video Strong Sad showed in [[stand-up]], Coach Z was already an adult when Strong Bad was a little kid.

What flashback? Where did Strong Bad say Coach Z was 2 years older than himself? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The "flashback" may be his "doodle memorys", but I have no clue where he says Coach Z is two years older then him. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that person was just guessing by looks. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter egg pic ==

[[Image:Unphotographic.png|thumb|100px|doodle]]
Why is there a picture of the "doodle memory" Easter egg (shown to the right) actually listed in the Easter egg section? I thought we only did that when the picture was hard to see or went by too fast or the words were hard to click on. This one doesn't seem to meet any of those criteria. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno, but I appreciate the chance to see it. It go by too fast for ''me'', anyway. (And no, I didn't upload it. Goes by too fast, remember?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] has a picture of one of its Easter eggs, and that egg is visible for a similar amount of time. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:It went way to fast for me. All I could tell was that Strong Bad robbed a safe. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Should The Cheat be listed in the cast for this email? [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:Yeah, under Easter Egg. I'll list it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

==Really Unphotographic==
Something must be seriously wrong with SB's memory. How else could he be Homestar's age in highschool, yet be a baby with Homestar as a nanny? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 20:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. Please see the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:highschool&oldid=234570 comment] immediately prior to yours, as well as the last couple in [[Talk:highschool#Preserved for posterity|Preserved for posterity]] above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Tamborine? ==

I don't hear any of Marzipan's tamborine in the band part. Am I alone? If not, is this a goof? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I say remark. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bubsamecium's Protazoa Spelling ==

I can't get the mirror to load, so unfortunately I'm unable to verify this, but I could have sworn that when this email was released, Bub5amecium's Protozoa Stand was spelled "PROTAZOA" rather than "PROTOZOA". I actually watched the toon specifically to verify the incorrect spelling, but now the official copy of the email has it spelled correctly. Did anyone else also see "PROTAZOA" earlier on? If so, and/or if the mirror is "out of date" and therefore shows an older version, and that can verify this claim, we should mention the spelling mistake in Goofs, along with the fact that it has since been corrected. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Got the mirror to load - spelling is "PROTOZOA" in that version. That also has the "Strong Mad's fist between Marzipan's thighs" goof fixed, so it's probably just as up-to-date as the official version. No help there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I downloaded the flash file shortly after it was released (within the hour), so it still has both the Strong Mad's hand glitch and the Strong Bad's reflection glitch, but "Bub5amecium's Protozoa Stand" is still spelled "PROTOZOA" in that version. So if there was a goof there, it was fixed immediately, I guess. -[[User:YK|YK]] 22:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, I probably just mis-remembered, then. So much for my more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Don Knotts Reference ==

Was there any reason for the Don Knotts reference? Strong Bad mentioned his appearing after he said they lived in roman times. Was there a relationship between Don Knotts and Roman times or something that I missed? I don't ever remember seeing any Don Knotts movies or anything based in Rome. Also, I didn't see it mentioned in the wiki, but when Don Knotts showed up in the easter egg, his voice sounded like Coach Z's. Would this be worth mentioning in the wiki?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 03:20, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it was because he appeared in two Scooby-Doo episodes, the old ones where they always had TV characters every episode. Knotts was one a couple of those. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::From Don's IMDB entry: "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" playing "Himself" (voice) in episode: "The Spooky Fog" (episode # 1.9) 4 November 1972 and "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" playing "Himself" (voice) in episode: "Guess Who's Knott Coming to Dinner?" (episode # 1.5) 7 October 1972 -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 21:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth explaining specifically that when Don Knotts says "Andy?" he is addressing Andy Griffiths?

== Possible M&M reference ==

It might just be becuse I'm really hungry, but Strong Mad looks like an M&M in this one with the "m" on his chest being lowercase (and possibly the period after it) and his stomach being quite round. Think this is worth a mention? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:The "m" is in the same style as an M&M - it's possible, but I'm not sure if it qualifies... {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:47, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::Now that I know It's not totally zany, I'll STUFF it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Despite my sarcasm on the STUFF page, I do hand it to you that I can see it being a reference to the blue m&m character. Especially given the unwonted noncubicness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==I'm just silly about ciliates==
Okay, a venting that's been building up for a while now about the Homestarmecium biology entries: first of all, if the only thing that keeps him from being a paramecium is the absence of nuclei, then the reasonable conclusion is that TBC mean for him to be one but failed to draw them (yeah, they have two; I just learned something by reading the Wikip. article!). Secondly—can we be sure the little blobs depicted in him ''aren't'' the nuclei? Thirdly: if he's a ciliate it does ''indeed'' matter; I'm out of my depth here, but I don't think there are any bacteria that are ciliates. If I understand the article, ciliates are by definition eukaryotic. Meaning he's ''not'' a bacterium. Granted, he's just got that one "hairy" patch on top; it may or may not be taken as making him a ciliate. Bottom line: I think he's supposed to be a paramecium, and any statements about his prokaryoticism (is that a word?) or lack of nuclei should be worded more tentatively, with "might be"s instead of absolute statements. 
Perhaps a better Fun Fact: SB introduces them ''all'' as "a bunch of plucky parameciums", but nobody's suggested that Strongbadiophage is supposed to be one! And Bubs even shares the ''-amecium'' name ending, but has even less claim to nuclei (unless his eyes are the micro- and macronuclei—hm...), plus an even poorer attempt at cilia! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:55, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:It's also quite possible that Strong Bad committed the same error that a lot of beginning biology students do - refer to "all" microorganisms as paramecia. I remember that being quite common back in school - the teacher would frequently remind us that paramecia are a specific type of microorganism, and a more appropriate "macro" term would be "protozoa". So even though Strong Bad called the whole gang a bunch of "parameciums", the drawings suggest otherwise. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Keyboard Strong Bad==
I'm going out on a limb here, but does anyone think that the teenage Strong Bad playing the keyboard is a reference to Keyboard Strong Bad from Sweet Cuppin Cakes? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 19:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. I think that's quite a stretch. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::It's not article fodder, but it's an interesting line of thought. The instrument traditionally associated with SB has always been the guitar. Keyboard has been more the domain of The Cheat, as ascribed in [[guitar]] and witnessed in [[sibbie]], [[Everybody Knows It]], [[flag day]], and so forth. It is intriguing that Strong Bad's previous involvement with the keyboard was either ameliorated by a testosterone-boosting crosspolination with a sword and guitar in the Key-sword-tar or relegated to the Kafka-esque mutation in which he wears the keyboard as a head, avoiding the "nerd of the band" stereotype associated with ''playing'' the keyboard by subsuming, if you will, its nature directly ''into'' himself—facing the problem "head" on. This, then, is the first time he's actually been seen—as his own, agentic entity—''playing'' the keyboard. One might assume that, like the dirtiest diapey, this is one accomplishment he is not content to leave forgotten. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:high school

Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:46:37 GMT

Triumvir: /* Dialogue questions */

==34 or 35?==
I count 34 days from December 5 to January 8, from [[portrait]] (te last major update) to [[highschool]], but everyone keeps changing it to 35. How can this be? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

==Dialogue questions==

Does anyone has an opinion of the dialogue might be in the following lines?

<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' {singing} It's an email, baby. (HERE)
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
'''BUBSAMECIUM:''' Certainly! Six tubes (HERE) of coming right up!
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
'''HOMESTARMECIUM:''' Oh, (HERE). Um, these are for my twin brother!
</blockquote>

'''EDIT:''' Just gotten word it may be '''Strongbadophage'''.

It would be great if anyone knew. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Here's one: I'd bet my important object that Bubsamecium is saying "rear-end cream". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:The "Bubsamecium" line sounds like "rear-end cream" to me. Provided the "(HERE)" was put in the right spot up there. Also, I think Baby Strong Sad said "Diapersmith" (as it's the baby Poopsmith and all...) -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Ditto that, YK. I'd further like to add that I think that the Strong Bad virus-looking thing is called "Strongbadophage". That's what I put on [[Twin Characters]]. I had to watch it several times to figure that out. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Absolutely no clue what the word after "It's an e-mail, baby!" is, though. Sounds like "lunge juice"... that can't be right. -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Sounds like "love juice" to me... Or "lunch juice". Which are just as weird. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::I heard "lunch juice" and thought I was nuts until I saw you guys had similar things. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Sigh—I feel a long and uncivil STUFF (or at least Talk battle) coming on. Currently the article reads "And the email baby loves juice". While this comes the closest to making any sense, it's just not what I hear. My hearing (though I don't assert it as the only possible one) is "It's a e-mail, baby! lunch juice." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Definitely think you guys are right - I heard "lunch juice" the first (and every) time I watched the email. It's weird, but I think it's correct. "It's an email, baby, lunch juice!" [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:46, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's another: On first viewing, I heard Baby Strong Bad's line as "I'm pretending I'm playing ''violent'' video games!" What's in the article is "''better'' video games"; on closer listening it ''does'' sound like that, but is pretty difficult to make out anyway. It could be "vinyl" as far as we can tell! So: "violent" certainly makes more sense. But is it simply for that reason (contextual suggestion) that I "heard" it? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:I heard better on multiple viewings {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 16:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::i agree with abdiviklas. it's what i heard. plus, we know half of the strong bad email intros don't make sense. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

SOUNDS! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
*[[Media:highschool_1.ogg|"It's an email, baby, lunch juice!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_2.ogg|"I'm pretending I'm playing better video games!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_3.ogg|"Certainly! Six tubes of rear-end cream coming right up!"]]
*[[Media:highschool_4.ogg|"Uh oh! It's Strongbadiophage! Um, uh... these are for my twin brother."]]
*[[Media:highschool_5.ogg|"Scampers! My long-lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious!"]]
:Ah, KieferSkunk comin' through, doin' his thing with the OGG files, he's gonna be king. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I'm asking for a challennnnnge. Specifically, I want to challenge the "et" in "pluckety", in "pluckety parameciums living in Free Petry Dish" etc. I listened with the volume up, and it sounds like this is another "doot-do" vs. "doo-doot do" issue. What someone evidently heard as an extra consonant just sounds like a slight waver in his voice, to me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I head "plucky" as well. For the videro games discussion, I listened to it again and Strong Bad says either "better video games" or "battle video games". And, I have one last thing to contradict: Don Knotts' line. I heard something along the lines of "Madley" rather than "Andy", though "Andy" makes a little sense. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

This could probably go without saying, but I think we need to consider all of the flashbacks from this toon (and probably the one from [[flashback]], too) to be apocryphal. They just don't jive with established continuity. I think [[stand-up]] probably actually happened in their timeline, as well as [[The Secrets That I Keep]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'll second that... Especially the paramecium bits. ;) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Indeed. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey, Strong Bad even *admits* here that he has a "very unphotographic memory". As if his flashback lies weren't obvious before, they are *now*. =P (BTW, is it just me, or does the "paramecium Homestar" resemble the Poopsmith more than Homestar? Weird misshapen eyes, odd mouth shape, few messy hairs... probably coincidence, but weird.) -[[User:YK|YK]] 05:58, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I say it's comparible to the movie ''Big Fish'', where real events are skewed and altered to make a more interesting story. [[User:TheRealZajac|TheRealZajac]]

::::Guy above me- leave your signature, please. Just type four ~'s. ''{edit:signed for}'' As for continuity, It's a comedy. I really don't ever remember seeing a comedy that had continuity. Sometimes the lack of continuity adds to the humor, although I wouldn't necessarily say it does for this. Maybe. Continuity is usually only important in serious plot drama and such. [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::There are lots of comedies that pay careful attention to continuity. ''[[IMDb:tt0285403|Scrubs]]'', for example. And TBC in general keep it pretty consistent. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:The Muppet Babies-style flashback in particular closely resembles the Muppet Babies show in terms of discontinuity. You have a collection of characters who are of varying ages in the original toon, PLUS other movies in the Muppet series that establish different scenarios of how the characters met each other. I think it's a parody of the Muppet chronology as much as it is Strong Bad's really bad memory.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The whole deal seems pretty simple to me. The first Easter egg sums it up. The first version of the Easter Egg shows what actually happened (and what we don't get to see in this email), while the second "doodle memory" version is comparable to what Strong Bad shows us. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Small question... ==

*Would it be of consequence to mention that this is the shortest [[Lappy 486]] email so far? -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 07:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
*it is? woah! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

We have a page just for that sort of information: [[Strong Bad Email Statistics]]. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Stampers! ==

I definitely hear an 's' in front of Marzipan's "dampers!" Does anyone else?[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 08:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too. I heard "scampers" more clearly than "dampers". It could have been "stampers". [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:35, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

*[[Media:highschool_5.ogg|"Scampers! My long-lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious!"]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:no. that is wrong. it is definitely stampers. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::Upon further review, I hear "Stampers" too. Still, this appears to be customary in such situations, so I'll put it to a vote:

'''If you hear "Stampers!", add your name to this numbered list:'''
#{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}}
#[[User:Seriously|Seriously]]
#-[[User:YK|YK]]
#[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#{{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}}
#[[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]]
#{{User:Bubsty/sig}}
#[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
#[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
#{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}
#[[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]]
#{{User: Theforumveteran/sig}}
#{{User:Has Matt?/sig}}
'''If you hear "Scampers!", add your name here:'''
#[[User:Catman87|Catman87]]

'''If you hear something else, add your name here and state what you hear:'''

== Accent on striped ==

Shouldn't the accent over the e in striped go upper-left to lower-right (the french ''accent grave'')?
:[[Wikipedia:Grave accent#Use in English]] suggests yes, although [[Wikipedia:Acute accent#Use in English]] seems contradictory. But my gut sides with you, IP. Changed accordingly. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

::Are we doing the same thing with "Stripe-ed Green Rabbit with Two Butts" for [[New Boots]]? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, we should totally use striped with accent on both articles. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sickly Sam Pillar ==

In the Easter egg at the end, when Sickly Sam coughs/wheezes and disappears, and the pillar appears in his place... Could this be a reference to something? Isn't there some sort of myth where people were turned into salt pillars? -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 17:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:There's the story of Lot's wife in the Bible, but I doubt there's a connection to this. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
::I'd be willing to give it a little consideration as a reference, but it would be a loose one at best, and I doubt it would survive a STUFF process. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I admit it occurred to me as well, but I don't think there's a real reference here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::That entire scene makes no sense whatsoever. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::this is probably just another instance of strong bad's apocryphal stortelling. probably doesn't have a reference.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
A comment from fark.com:
:2006-01-09 03:12:57 PM hoonis
:Strong-sad-ghost-in-rome is replaced by a DORIC column. get it? Doric.. Dorrr...kkk
Would be pretty obscure if true, but...

==Marz-lody==

Did anyone else see a resemblance to Melody from [[Mellow Mushroom]] in Marzipan's high school self? [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:40, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

yeah, though i don't know why they would make a reference to her. most people (not counting the wiki) do not know about the site, let alone their creation of it. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's what references are for. Inside jokes, sort of. Even if only TBC get it. [[User:Xyzzyka|Xyzzyka]] 21:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::Something I think is more interesting, actually, is that this would be the <s>first</s> second time we've seen Marzipan's legs, even if the sequence isn't exactly canon. The first was on [[Main Page 17]] when 20X6 Marzipan starts jumping around. In both cases, though, these are character variations, and not Marzipan herself. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll agree with that... And, lemme tell ya, those legs creep me out... I'm just so used to Marzipan [[long pants#Easter Eggs|being a broom]]... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yeah. The voice is similar, too. I mean, more similar than usual.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Maybe, but it sounds to me like Missy was just going for a "cute girl" voice in both cases. 1936 Marzipan also sounds like this. I think Melody had a thicker southern accent, too. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 17:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was getting at. I could sense more "southern-ness" than usual.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Adventure ==

If Strong Bad was referring to the Atari Dragon, and it ate two of his pixels, he was probably playing Adventure, and the second pixel was probably the black dot that activated the easter egg.
:That sounds logical to me... Also, isn't that sound effect an Adventure noise? I can't quite place it, although I know I've heard it before... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The sound effect in question is used on H*R in two places: In [[Secret Collect]] when you hit a force field, and on [[Main Page 13]] for the Store button. I don't know which actual 2600 game it was used in, though - I don't think it was Adventure. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, whatever game it was in, now I'm-a add it to My Pride And Joy, [[Sound Effects]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
The game he was playing seemed like secret collect with that Duck-dragon thrown in. Think about it, there's that same noise, and your character in Secret Collect only has a couple of pixels, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Couldn't he have been playing Duck Pond? A duck eats pixels in that game.
::I don't think it's a bad thing in [[Duck Pond]], though. In context, Baby Strong Bad made it sound as if it was a bad thing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== cellular strong bad ==
guys, it sounds like homestar says "strongbadiophage." should that be the name, or is it just homestar calling strong bad stongo badio again? if homestar is, then yes, it would be perfectly logical to call him strongbadophage. but what if he isn't?[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:Check the explanations. Strongbadiophage is based on a [[Wikipedia:Bacteriophage|bacteriophage]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

ah. thank you. that clears everything up.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Coach Z Hat==

Is it just me, or is Strong Bad wearing Coach Z's hat in High School? -- [[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
:Same style, different colour. Not precisely Coach Z's, but of the same brand, if you will. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:It seems kind of a lighter color, I guess. -[[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
::Lighter? It's completely different. Coach Z's is purple with a blue brim. This one is bright green with a bright fuschia-ish brim. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Page==

Are the "Middle School" Homestar characters worthy of a page? I'm just curious, because I made took some pictures out , sooo... -[[User:Grabboarm700|Grabboarm700]]
:I think we already put them in [[Stylized Character Designs]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Fine Figures?==
Do you guys think it's worth noting that this is practically GUARANTEED PROOF that Marzy's body isn't skirt-shaped? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]]
:No, because Marzipan's legs are seen courtesy of Strong Bad's "unphotographic memory" - implying that we can't rely on it to determine canon. (See [[#Marz-lody]] above.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Guitar==
[[Image:Highschool_band.PNG|thumb|Homestar's "Axe": Zakk Wylde or 70's Style?]]
does anyone else think that Homestar's guitar could be a reference to Zakk Wylde's famous axe? they both have a similar spiral design coming from the pickup areas...[[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Do you have a picture of this "famous axe" for comparison? I'd like to see before passing judgment. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::There are images of this "axe" available here: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zakk_Wylde Wikimedia Commons]. Probably the best photo in that bunch is this one: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Zakk_Wylde_1106.JPG].
::That said, I don't think these are related. Homestar's guitar more closely follows the general style of that era rather than a specific artist. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Agree. They share a similarity, but I'm guessing it's nothing specific. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Uploaded a screenshot from the Toon for more direct comparison. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Also, addressing Syndicate's original post: Zakk's axe actually has a bulls-eye pattern on it, not a spiral. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Baby Strong Bad's hat ==

[[Image:Baby_strong_bad.png|thumb|Baby Strong Bad's hat]] Baby Strong Bad's hat (see right) looks familiar...is it from some other cartoon? I was thinking [http://www.archiecomics.com/coloringbook/jughead/pages/jughead012_gif.htm Jughead], but it's different... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Reminds me of the ones Mickey Mouse's little nephews(?) wore... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's '''definately''' not Jughead's. Maybe you're on to something Dorian... {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I found this one by Googling. [http://www.thegremlin.com/DA/14465da.JPG] The hat's similar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::That must be what I'm thinking of--thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's kind of a cartoon convention, and one that always puzzled me as a kid. (And still does today, I guess.) Because I've ''never'' seen anyone wear a hat like that in real life. But yeah, Mickey's nephews, Jughead, I think somebody from Blondie... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:29, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Vomitorium explanation ==

The paragraph explaning the term vomitorium appears to be copied and pasted directly out of [[Wikipedia:Roman_eating_and_drinking#Vomitorium|Wikipedia]], but without the citation. Do we have a policy on this type of reproduction? Should it be paraphrased, or should the original citation be included? Would a link to Wikipedia suffice? -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 00:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think that paragraph should be shortened and provided with a link to Wikipedia. That's more our usual style, if I'm not mistaken. I'll do that ASAP if no one objects. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Is this a real email? ==

Is it?[[User:Ava|Ava]]

:Yeah. Of course it's a real email. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 00:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:While nothing says it has to STAY this way, the [[FAQ]] states that all of the published Strong Bad Emails are real, except for [[mile]], which was made up by The Cheat. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== More on striped ==

I referenced Strong Bad's recurring unique pronunciation of the word "striped," but it was reverted. I don't see why it shouldn't be an inside reference, or at least a remark. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 04:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The reason I reverted it is that we usually don't note recurrences of strange words or pronunciations. These are commonplace on H*R.com, and so we (or at least I) don't typically find them noteworthy. Also, it seems to me that Strong Bad's pronunciation of striped is not unique; I've heard it used outside of H*R.com several times. That said, I wouldn't want to act unilaterally, so if anyone thinks this should be noted, please do tell, or STUFF this or something. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think I'll lay off on this - dictionary.com has it as a legitimate pronunciation. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::For posterity, I would just like to get the fact in question into this talk page; while I guess our policy's our policy, I find it interesting that it was the same word each time. If it were just multiple instances of aspirating final syllables, Shakespeare-style, then I wouldn't find it so notable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::*Strong Bad similarly emphasizes the ''e'' in the word "striped" when referring to The Cheat as a [[Striped Green Rabbit]] in [[New Boots]] and to the striped worm named "Erweenga" in [[That Time of Year]].
:At first I didn't think about this issue, but I actually agree, Terlet Brush. First of all, when I listened to it again, I detected that Strong Bad and Homestar put unusual emphasis on the word. It's more like "''stripe''-ed" than "stripèd" (as it's listed). It just doesn't sound quite natural. Also, Strong Bad referred to the bird that flew by at the end of "Huttah" as, "my wingèd friend". I think there is a good case for mentioning Strong Bad's pronunciation of the -ed suffix somewhere, though not necessarily here. The [[Foreign words]] section is the closest thing I could find, but it would have to be expanded into a "mispronounced words" section. I think the deciding factor is whether anyone can find an instance of "striped" (or maybe a similar word) pronounced the common way in one of the 'toons or interviews. --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:: "Stripèd" is correct; it's based on Old English pronunciations, which would sometimes pronounce the "E" in an -ed ending when we don't. The accent has nothing whatsoever to do with where the stress on the word is pronounced - English generally follows French's rules regarding accents, where accents determine how you pronounce the vowel, not where the stress on the word is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I know it's correct, but I'm saying that Strong Bad additionally emphasizes the word strangely. Strong bad could have just said "stripèd", but no, he said "STRIPE-èd" every time. You see what I'm saying? The emphasis implies that it's a joke since I can't imagine someone normally saying "stripèd" with so much emphasis on "stripe". It's a little bit like how Strong Sad contorts his face when he tries to pronounce "baklava". It's a sign that TBC are intentionally pronouncing that way for humor.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 00:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Biology ==

Two Things: [[User:Plastic Chicken|Plastic Chicken]] 04:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

a) More specifically, Strong Bad looks like a T-Even bacteriophage. (IIRC the T bacteriophages were numbered in order of discovery and the even ones happened to look alike.)

b) Paramecium are eukaryotes, and therefore reproduce by mitosis (technically, mitosis followed by cytokinesis -- mitosis is only the process of separating the DNA after it has been duplicated. Muscles cells (for example) become multinucleated by lots of mitotic divisions that are NOT followed by splitting the cytoplasm). Binary fission is a different process limited to prokaryotes (bacteria).
:Thanks, P.C.; I'd seen that go back and forth several times. Most recently the explanation was that since Homestarmecium lacked a nucleus he was unable to commit mitosis; now biology is thin ice for me, but I might suppose that the logical conclusion is rather that he's simply an inaccurately-portrayed paramecium. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The page at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Protists_%28General_Biology%29#Ciliophora:_Ciliates, as well as all the other pages I can find on ciliates, the family of which Paramecium are a part, say they have a macronucleus that is not very well defined from the rest of the cell, and that they undergo binary fission to reproduce, and cunjugation involving a smaller nucleus in order to spread their genes around. They are technically eukaryotic, but since they have a [[Wikipedia:Macronucleus|Macronucleus]] they are unlike most of their brethren. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciliates also mentions that "Division of the macronucleus does not occur by a mitotic process" I get the feeling that very few people will care about this in the end, even fewer than those that recognised strongbad as a t-even phage —[[User:Garglfluz|Garglfluz]] 11 January 2006
::Actually, Garglefluz, I didn't notice your earlier comment here and posted something related [[#I'm just silly about ciliates|below]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Preserved for posterity==
There were a couple of edits that got reverted; I wanted to save them from oblivion and preserve them here on the talk page, since I at least found them intriguing and noteworthy, if not worthy of inclusion in the article.
*Homestar as the matronly nursery character saying "Now you children skedaddle" is a reference and a hybrid of both Nanny from [[Wikipedia:Muppet Babies|Muppet Babies]] and the Mammy-Two-Shoes character from the massively successful series of theatrical short cartoons [[Wikipedia:Tom and Jerry|Tom and Jerry]]. The costume and dialogue are indicative of Tom's [[Wikipedia:African American|African American]] owner, who usually wallops the cat with a broom when he misbehaves. "Nanny" was a kind mentor only shown from the waist down.
*The Old Timey Romans Easter Egg may be a reference to "The Roman Holidays", a Hanna-Barbera animated sitcom from the 1970s. Like "The Flintstones" and "The Jetsons", the basic premise was "funny business in another time period".
On the Nanny/Mammy fact, I ''am'' pretty sold on its validity, though I'd prefer it rewritten (e.g. "Homestar... (bla bla) wast down... (bla bla) ...characters in many cartoons, most notably Nanny in Muppet Babies and various owners in Tom & Jerry (bla bla)"), preferably a little more streamlined (losing phrases like "massively successful series of theatrical short"). The Muppet Babies connection I see as justified by the overall allusion; the Tom & Jerry connection by the broom and nature of the line (Nanny never had a broom, right?). Note that Mammy was later replaced by the feet of a Caucasian owner, so she wasn't the only one in Tom & Jerry portrayed at that angle. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

It could be Homestar's Dad. Or Uncle. [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 12:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or mom for that matter. But I think it's Homestar, and ''his'' age gap would make the Coach Z discrepency far less strange! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I thought the same thing as Abdi when I saw the toon, and I'm sure this is a reference to Mammy. And you know, SB is probably making it all up with his doodle memory... [[User:Kiki|Kiki]] 17:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Atari 2600 SFX ==

When Baby Strong Bad is playing the video game, the sound effects used there are also used in [[Secret Collect]] (first and third effects), and also on [[Main Page 13]] (all three). The first sound effect is repeated twice.

I removed a Fun Fact that said these sound effects were from the Atari 2600 version of Pac Man. They aren't - trust me. But for reference, there are two sound effects on [[Main Page 13]] that ARE taken from that game: When you mouse off of the Characters button and Strong Bad disappears (effect is played while the ghosts are under the effect of a power pill), and the "donk!" sound on the Downloads button is the sound played when you eat a dot.

I don't know exactly which games the SFX in this cartoon came from, but I can say with high certainty (with my much-more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory) that they're not Pac Man. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Flashback? ==

Another remark reads:

* In his flashback, Strong Bad recalls Coach Z being up to 2 years older than himself, but in the video Strong Sad showed in [[stand-up]], Coach Z was already an adult when Strong Bad was a little kid.

What flashback? Where did Strong Bad say Coach Z was 2 years older than himself? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:The "flashback" may be his "doodle memorys", but I have no clue where he says Coach Z is two years older then him. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that person was just guessing by looks. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter egg pic ==

[[Image:Unphotographic.png|thumb|100px|doodle]]
Why is there a picture of the "doodle memory" Easter egg (shown to the right) actually listed in the Easter egg section? I thought we only did that when the picture was hard to see or went by too fast or the words were hard to click on. This one doesn't seem to meet any of those criteria. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno, but I appreciate the chance to see it. It go by too fast for ''me'', anyway. (And no, I didn't upload it. Goes by too fast, remember?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] has a picture of one of its Easter eggs, and that egg is visible for a similar amount of time. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:It went way to fast for me. All I could tell was that Strong Bad robbed a safe. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Should The Cheat be listed in the cast for this email? [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:Yeah, under Easter Egg. I'll list it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

==Really Unphotographic==
Something must be seriously wrong with SB's memory. How else could he be Homestar's age in highschool, yet be a baby with Homestar as a nanny? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 20:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. Please see the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:highschool&oldid=234570 comment] immediately prior to yours, as well as the last couple in [[Talk:highschool#Preserved for posterity|Preserved for posterity]] above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Tamborine? ==

I don't hear any of Marzipan's tamborine in the band part. Am I alone? If not, is this a goof? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:I say remark. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bubsamecium's Protazoa Spelling ==

I can't get the mirror to load, so unfortunately I'm unable to verify this, but I could have sworn that when this email was released, Bub5amecium's Protozoa Stand was spelled "PROTAZOA" rather than "PROTOZOA". I actually watched the toon specifically to verify the incorrect spelling, but now the official copy of the email has it spelled correctly. Did anyone else also see "PROTAZOA" earlier on? If so, and/or if the mirror is "out of date" and therefore shows an older version, and that can verify this claim, we should mention the spelling mistake in Goofs, along with the fact that it has since been corrected. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Got the mirror to load - spelling is "PROTOZOA" in that version. That also has the "Strong Mad's fist between Marzipan's thighs" goof fixed, so it's probably just as up-to-date as the official version. No help there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::I downloaded the flash file shortly after it was released (within the hour), so it still has both the Strong Mad's hand glitch and the Strong Bad's reflection glitch, but "Bub5amecium's Protozoa Stand" is still spelled "PROTOZOA" in that version. So if there was a goof there, it was fixed immediately, I guess. -[[User:YK|YK]] 22:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, I probably just mis-remembered, then. So much for my more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Don Knotts Reference ==

Was there any reason for the Don Knotts reference? Strong Bad mentioned his appearing after he said they lived in roman times. Was there a relationship between Don Knotts and Roman times or something that I missed? I don't ever remember seeing any Don Knotts movies or anything based in Rome. Also, I didn't see it mentioned in the wiki, but when Don Knotts showed up in the easter egg, his voice sounded like Coach Z's. Would this be worth mentioning in the wiki?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 03:20, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it was because he appeared in two Scooby-Doo episodes, the old ones where they always had TV characters every episode. Knotts was one a couple of those. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::From Don's IMDB entry: "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" playing "Himself" (voice) in episode: "The Spooky Fog" (episode # 1.9) 4 November 1972 and "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" playing "Himself" (voice) in episode: "Guess Who's Knott Coming to Dinner?" (episode # 1.5) 7 October 1972 -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 21:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth explaining specifically that when Don Knotts says "Andy?" he is addressing Andy Griffiths?

== Possible M&M reference ==

It might just be becuse I'm really hungry, but Strong Mad looks like an M&M in this one with the "m" on his chest being lowercase (and possibly the period after it) and his stomach being quite round. Think this is worth a mention? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:The "m" is in the same style as an M&M - it's possible, but I'm not sure if it qualifies... {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:47, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::Now that I know It's not totally zany, I'll STUFF it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Despite my sarcasm on the STUFF page, I do hand it to you that I can see it being a reference to the blue m&m character. Especially given the unwonted noncubicness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==I'm just silly about ciliates==
Okay, a venting that's been building up for a while now about the Homestarmecium biology entries: first of all, if the only thing that keeps him from being a paramecium is the absence of nuclei, then the reasonable conclusion is that TBC mean for him to be one but failed to draw them (yeah, they have two; I just learned something by reading the Wikip. article!). Secondly—can we be sure the little blobs depicted in him ''aren't'' the nuclei? Thirdly: if he's a ciliate it does ''indeed'' matter; I'm out of my depth here, but I don't think there are any bacteria that are ciliates. If I understand the article, ciliates are by definition eukaryotic. Meaning he's ''not'' a bacterium. Granted, he's just got that one "hairy" patch on top; it may or may not be taken as making him a ciliate. Bottom line: I think he's supposed to be a paramecium, and any statements about his prokaryoticism (is that a word?) or lack of nuclei should be worded more tentatively, with "might be"s instead of absolute statements. 
Perhaps a better Fun Fact: SB introduces them ''all'' as "a bunch of plucky parameciums", but nobody's suggested that Strongbadiophage is supposed to be one! And Bubs even shares the ''-amecium'' name ending, but has even less claim to nuclei (unless his eyes are the micro- and macronuclei—hm...), plus an even poorer attempt at cilia! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:55, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:It's also quite possible that Strong Bad committed the same error that a lot of beginning biology students do - refer to "all" microorganisms as paramecia. I remember that being quite common back in school - the teacher would frequently remind us that paramecia are a specific type of microorganism, and a more appropriate "macro" term would be "protozoa". So even though Strong Bad called the whole gang a bunch of "parameciums", the drawings suggest otherwise. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Keyboard Strong Bad==
I'm going out on a limb here, but does anyone think that the teenage Strong Bad playing the keyboard is a reference to Keyboard Strong Bad from Sweet Cuppin Cakes? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 19:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. I think that's quite a stretch. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::It's not article fodder, but it's an interesting line of thought. The instrument traditionally associated with SB has always been the guitar. Keyboard has been more the domain of The Cheat, as ascribed in [[guitar]] and witnessed in [[sibbie]], [[Everybody Knows It]], [[flag day]], and so forth. It is intriguing that Strong Bad's previous involvement with the keyboard was either ameliorated by a testosterone-boosting crosspolination with a sword and guitar in the Key-sword-tar or relegated to the Kafka-esque mutation in which he wears the keyboard as a head, avoiding the "nerd of the band" stereotype associated with ''playing'' the keyboard by subsuming, if you will, its nature directly ''into'' himself—facing the problem "head" on. This, then, is the first time he's actually been seen—as his own, agentic entity—''playing'' the keyboard. One might assume that, like the dirtiest diapey, this is one accomplishment he is not content to leave forgotten. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:34:58 GMT

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== Home improvement (not the sitcom) ==
In the past, a fun fact for this page about the second half of this email being a parody of home improvement shows was declined. (Such that Strong Bad = Steve Thomas or Bob Vila, and Bubs = Norm Abram, if you use a This Old House analogy.) I know several people who aren't familiar with home improvement shows at all and so probably wouldn't get this toon unless this was pointed out to them. Should the home improvement show reference be made in some way? -- [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:24, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:What was the wording of the old item? When and how was it declined? How would you word a current item? I admit I had never really thought of this email in those terms, but I'm intrigued by what you're suggesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::The original one, submitted back in June, said "The exchange with Bubs is a parody of the popular television remodeling show This Old House, which always featured the host walking around the construction site asking different team members what they were doing and how." This is probably too specific, but captures part of what I'm envisioning this toon as. Perhaps something similar to the above sentence, perhaps "The exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:This Old House|This Old House]]'', where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how." Something to that effect. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't see the connection as much as you, but if you feel strongly about it, go for it. If you're not as sure, you could put it directly in STUFF and see whether it's accepted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the helpful advice; I've added it and I hope I followed the templates all right. But the advice is most appreciated, and at least this way we can see if I'm not just seeing things. :-) One question though -- is it newest toon at the top, or newest submitted fun fact? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::That would be newest submitted fun fact. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Closed Stuff==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== This Old VCR ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as [[IMDb:0078701|''This Old House'']], where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|12|0|12:00}}

== Space Shows tape ==

I'm not real sure of the timeline in question, but is it possible that the "space shows" tape is a reference to the Decemberween Puppet Stuff episode? Homestar asks Little Girl what she wants for Decemberween, and she ultimately tells him "space show DVD's." We could fit in the reference on this page. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:This email came out before [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]. So it can't be a reference to that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks - just thought I would check. It's an amusing coincidence, but it's obviously just chance. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 04:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:33:31 GMT

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Brand new to the Homestarrunner Wikipedia, I hope to learn the ropes and begin making valuable contributions ASAP. I'm sure that I'll make some mistakes along the way, but I hope that the veteran contributors will bear with me and help me learn. I love the many cartoons of the Brothers Chap, and look forward to helping out with this valuable resource!

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:30:03 GMT

Triumvir: /* Space Shows tape */

== Home improvement (not the sitcom) ==
In the past, a fun fact for this page about the second half of this email being a parody of home improvement shows was declined. (Such that Strong Bad = Steve Thomas or Bob Vila, and Bubs = Norm Abram, if you use a This Old House analogy.) I know several people who aren't familiar with home improvement shows at all and so probably wouldn't get this toon unless this was pointed out to them. Should the home improvement show reference be made in some way? -- [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:24, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:What was the wording of the old item? When and how was it declined? How would you word a current item? I admit I had never really thought of this email in those terms, but I'm intrigued by what you're suggesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::The original one, submitted back in June, said "The exchange with Bubs is a parody of the popular television remodeling show This Old House, which always featured the host walking around the construction site asking different team members what they were doing and how." This is probably too specific, but captures part of what I'm envisioning this toon as. Perhaps something similar to the above sentence, perhaps "The exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:This Old House|This Old House]]'', where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how." Something to that effect. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't see the connection as much as you, but if you feel strongly about it, go for it. If you're not as sure, you could put it directly in STUFF and see whether it's accepted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the helpful advice; I've added it and I hope I followed the templates all right. But the advice is most appreciated, and at least this way we can see if I'm not just seeing things. :-) One question though -- is it newest toon at the top, or newest submitted fun fact? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::That would be newest submitted fun fact. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Closed Stuff==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== This Old VCR ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as [[IMDb:0078701|''This Old House'']], where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|12|0|12:00}}

== Space Shows tape ==

I'm not real sure of the timeline in question, but is it possible that the "space shows" tape is a reference to the Decemberween Puppet Stuff episode? Homestar asks Little Girl what she wants for Decemberween, and she ultimately tells him "space show DVD's." We could fit in the reference on this page.{{unsigned|Triumvir|04:10, 13 January 2006}}
:This email came out before [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]. So it can't be a reference to that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks - just thought I would check. It's an amusing coincidence, but it's obviously just chance. --{{unsigned|Triumvir|04:10, 13 January 2006}}

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:29:31 GMT

Triumvir: /* Space Shows tape */

== Home improvement (not the sitcom) ==
In the past, a fun fact for this page about the second half of this email being a parody of home improvement shows was declined. (Such that Strong Bad = Steve Thomas or Bob Vila, and Bubs = Norm Abram, if you use a This Old House analogy.) I know several people who aren't familiar with home improvement shows at all and so probably wouldn't get this toon unless this was pointed out to them. Should the home improvement show reference be made in some way? -- [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:24, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:What was the wording of the old item? When and how was it declined? How would you word a current item? I admit I had never really thought of this email in those terms, but I'm intrigued by what you're suggesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::The original one, submitted back in June, said "The exchange with Bubs is a parody of the popular television remodeling show This Old House, which always featured the host walking around the construction site asking different team members what they were doing and how." This is probably too specific, but captures part of what I'm envisioning this toon as. Perhaps something similar to the above sentence, perhaps "The exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:This Old House|This Old House]]'', where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how." Something to that effect. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't see the connection as much as you, but if you feel strongly about it, go for it. If you're not as sure, you could put it directly in STUFF and see whether it's accepted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the helpful advice; I've added it and I hope I followed the templates all right. But the advice is most appreciated, and at least this way we can see if I'm not just seeing things. :-) One question though -- is it newest toon at the top, or newest submitted fun fact? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::That would be newest submitted fun fact. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Closed Stuff==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== This Old VCR ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as [[IMDb:0078701|''This Old House'']], where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|12|0|12:00}}

== Space Shows tape ==

I'm not real sure of the timeline in question, but is it possible that the "space shows" tape is a reference to the Decemberween Puppet Stuff episode? Homestar asks Little Girl what she wants for Decemberween, and she ultimately tells him "space show DVD's." We could fit in the reference on this page.{{Triumvir|04:10, 13 January 2006}}
:This email came out before [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]. So it can't be a reference to that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks - just thought I would check. It's an amusing coincidence, but it's obviously just chance. --{{Triumvir|04:10, 13 January 2006}}

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:28:48 GMT

Triumvir: /* Space Shows tape */

== Home improvement (not the sitcom) ==
In the past, a fun fact for this page about the second half of this email being a parody of home improvement shows was declined. (Such that Strong Bad = Steve Thomas or Bob Vila, and Bubs = Norm Abram, if you use a This Old House analogy.) I know several people who aren't familiar with home improvement shows at all and so probably wouldn't get this toon unless this was pointed out to them. Should the home improvement show reference be made in some way? -- [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:24, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:What was the wording of the old item? When and how was it declined? How would you word a current item? I admit I had never really thought of this email in those terms, but I'm intrigued by what you're suggesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::The original one, submitted back in June, said "The exchange with Bubs is a parody of the popular television remodeling show This Old House, which always featured the host walking around the construction site asking different team members what they were doing and how." This is probably too specific, but captures part of what I'm envisioning this toon as. Perhaps something similar to the above sentence, perhaps "The exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:This Old House|This Old House]]'', where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how." Something to that effect. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't see the connection as much as you, but if you feel strongly about it, go for it. If you're not as sure, you could put it directly in STUFF and see whether it's accepted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the helpful advice; I've added it and I hope I followed the templates all right. But the advice is most appreciated, and at least this way we can see if I'm not just seeing things. :-) One question though -- is it newest toon at the top, or newest submitted fun fact? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::That would be newest submitted fun fact. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Closed Stuff==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== This Old VCR ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as [[IMDb:0078701|''This Old House'']], where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|12|0|12:00}}

== Space Shows tape ==

I'm not real sure of the timeline in question, but is it possible that the "space shows" tape is a reference to the Decemberween Puppet Stuff episode? Homestar asks Little Girl what she wants for Decemberween, and she ultimately tells him "space show DVD's." We could fit in the reference on this page.{{unsigned|Triumvir|04:10, 13 January 2006}}
:This email came out before [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]. So it can't be a reference to that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks - just thought I would check. It's an amusing coincidence, but it's obviously just chance. --{{unsigned|Triumvir|04:10, 13 January 2006}}

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:16:41 GMT

Triumvir: /* Space Shows tape */

== Home improvement (not the sitcom) ==
In the past, a fun fact for this page about the second half of this email being a parody of home improvement shows was declined. (Such that Strong Bad = Steve Thomas or Bob Vila, and Bubs = Norm Abram, if you use a This Old House analogy.) I know several people who aren't familiar with home improvement shows at all and so probably wouldn't get this toon unless this was pointed out to them. Should the home improvement show reference be made in some way? -- [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:24, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:What was the wording of the old item? When and how was it declined? How would you word a current item? I admit I had never really thought of this email in those terms, but I'm intrigued by what you're suggesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::The original one, submitted back in June, said "The exchange with Bubs is a parody of the popular television remodeling show This Old House, which always featured the host walking around the construction site asking different team members what they were doing and how." This is probably too specific, but captures part of what I'm envisioning this toon as. Perhaps something similar to the above sentence, perhaps "The exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:This Old House|This Old House]]'', where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how." Something to that effect. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't see the connection as much as you, but if you feel strongly about it, go for it. If you're not as sure, you could put it directly in STUFF and see whether it's accepted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the helpful advice; I've added it and I hope I followed the templates all right. But the advice is most appreciated, and at least this way we can see if I'm not just seeing things. :-) One question though -- is it newest toon at the top, or newest submitted fun fact? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::That would be newest submitted fun fact. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Closed Stuff==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== This Old VCR ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's exchange with Bubs is a takeoff of television home remodeling shows such as [[IMDb:0078701|''This Old House'']], where the host asks various team members what they are doing, why, and how.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|12|0|12:00}}

== Space Shows tape ==

I'm not real sure of the timeline in question, but is it possible that the "space shows" tape is a reference to the Decemberween Puppet Stuff episode? Homestar asks Little Girl what she wants for Decemberween, and she ultimately tells him "space show DVD's." We could fit in the reference on this page.
:This email came out before [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]. So it can't be a reference to that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks - just thought I would check. It's an amusing coincidence, but it's obviously just chance. {{User:Triumvir}}

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Triumvir — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:10:08 GMT

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