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Talk:-èd

Uglinessman — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:55:17 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/Plea Ted and Lye Ted

The stressed "èd" is common in Shakespear's work, usually to add a melodious inflection in words. Think this should be mentioned? Shakespearian plays are the only other time I've seen èd used in English.
:Maybe. I'ma wait and see what others think. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I'm all in favour; knowing a little about Shakespeare never harmèd anyone. [[User:Seahen|Seahen]] 21:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm not reminded of Shakespeare at all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Well sure, he had to use -èd all the time. Got to keep up that iambic pentameter, you know! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 23:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, indeed, it was '''not''' about melodious inflection, it was about rhythmic metering. Melodious inflection would be like saying "What light through yonder window breaks? 'Tis the east, and Juliet... the sun!" to the tune of, I dunno, like "Mary Had a Little Lamb" or "Welcome to the Jungle" or the like. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 05:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I always thought that when a syllable is accented, an acute accent is used (in this case, é). Any reason at all why a grave accent is used instead? [[User:72.83.150.246|72.83.150.246]] 22:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

:There's a difference in pronunciation between the two. The [[Wikipedia:Acute accent|acute accent]] "-éd" would be pronounced "aid" (as in paid), and the [[Wikipedia:Grave accent|grave accent]] "-èd" would be pronounced "ead" (as in head). The latter is the one that the Homestar Runner characters frequently use. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== Plea Ted and Lye Ted ==

Maybe I'm not understanding the way that the explanation is phrased, but it seems to me that the "pleated" and "lighted" examples don't fit in with the rest of the list. In all the other examples, the "ed" should just cause the word to end with the "d" sound, with the "e" being silent, but the "èd" applied in the toon/email makes an extra syllable. However, in the case of "pleated" and "lighted", there is no extra syllable, all that's happening is that the "e" which is already pronounced, but the "t" is being pronounced a little more sharply (when you say "lighted" out loud the "t" is almost soft enough to be a "d"), thus making the final "ed" syllable a little more stressed. Am I over-analyzing this, or is there need for clarification/trimming? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 07:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page 24

Uglinessman — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:42:10 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/nekkid?

== Regular outfit ==

Can we really say that "this is one of only five main pages to have Homestar in his regular outfit, size, and style" if his shirt can change? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:We can say "this is one of only five main pages to have Homestar in his regular size, and style"?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 19:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
::That applies to ''most'' main pages, though. Not just five. {{User:Mee/sig}}

== Goofs ==

When I put the glasses on, Homestarrunner's shirt is still blurry. Is anyone else having this "problem" [[User:71.108.174.149|71.108.174.149]]
:See the Goofs section. [[User:24.147.211.129|24.147.211.129]]
::This happens with all of his shirts, the ducky, the star, and the Peacy P.
:::I'm not sure this is a goof - I think this is an intentional joke. It seems a little odd that EVERYTHING else would be sharpened except for the shirt. [[User:Compdude]]
::::Agreed -- I laughed. [[User:86.136.81.173|86.136.81.173]] 19:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

== nekkid? ==

For the Downloads button, the article currently says "Strong Bad walks through the Field", but doesn't elaborate much. Then under Remarks, it says "Strong Bad is seen with underwear". I looked at the Main Page in question before reading the article, and I'm pretty sure that Strong Bad is naked. It would make sense, since everything's blurry, it forms a sort of pre-emptive censorship that's being exploited to allow SB to wander around in the buff. I personally can't see any color difference between his chest and where his underwear should be. After all, the Remark goes on to mention that "he claims he doesn't wear them", so where's the evidence that he's wearing them now? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 20:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Onomatopoeia

Uglinessman — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:34:27 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/O RLY?

What about "ptoo"? And isn't there some sort of "dwoo!" noise that H*R sometimes makes when running away? I have vague memories of these, but can't remember off-hand where either of them appeared. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 07:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Well, "ptoo" was in [[couch patch]], but it wasn't an onomatopoeic word, since he was spitting at the time. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::I know he was actually spitting, but it also sounded like he said the word "ptoo", as opposed to simply making a "ptoo"-like sound effect. Most people don't actually say "ptoo" when spitting, unless they're trying to be funny, (and usually when they do, it's a very percussive and/or plosive sound, whereas H*R's "ptoo" was more vocal and/or melodic). It's like how some people just sneeze normally, but when some people sneeze it sounds like they're actually saying "a-choo", or like if a cat actually said "meow" in a cartoon intead of just making an actual cat-like "meow" sound. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== O RLY? ==

The explanation text on a recent edit said "An onomatopoeia has to be spelled out somewhere". Are you sure about that? If I'm telling a story, and I use a phrase like "and he fell to the ground with a great thud", or "I accidentally dropped the melon off the roof, and it kinda splatted when it hit the pavement", the words 'thud' and 'splat' are onomatopoeia, because I'm saying the word "thud" or "splat" rather than imitating the sound. In [[Happy Hallow-day]] (which was linked improperly anyway), it's pretty clear that Coach Z is doing a bad job of imitating sounds, so this particular edit was kosher, but the reasoning is shaky. I'm not saying we should go through every toon and sbemail and look for instances of spoken onomatopoeia, but for future reference, if a conspicious and noteworthy instance of such comes up, it might be worthwhile dicussing whether or not it sould be mentioned in this article, rather than being dismissed simply because it's spoken rather than "spelled out somewhere". - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 20:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

montage

Uglinessman — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:23:49 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Real-World References */ another disambig

{{sbenav|117|extra plug|virus}}
[[Image:sbemail117.png|thumb|A girl. Or maybe a wagon. Filled up with pancakes.]]

Strong Bad "creats" a few montages about a wagon fulla pancakes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Pond]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Race Track]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Stick]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, November 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:15

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{announcing}'' Tonight on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Why don't you creat a montage? 
 
Steve 
Surf City, NJ</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "creat" as "cree-at" and reads NJ as "No Job"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''{in a high-pitched, mocking voice}'' Oooohhh! Why don't you creat an alternate reality where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down! ''{Strong Bad clears the screen and continues typing in normal voice.}'' A montage, eh Watered Down? Like, about whatever? Okay. I'll make a montage about...

''{cut to an empty field}''

Me. ''{Strong Bad appears}''

And a wagon. ''{a wagon appears, and a short tune starts playing}''

Full of pancakes. ''{pancakes appear in the wagon}''

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad and the wagon walking past Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

''{Wipe to a field where Strong Bad kicks the wagon calmly.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad pulling the wagon uphill. Music stops when Strong Bad starts speaking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, or maybe a montage of me falling in love with the wagon full of pancakes.

''{Heart wipe to Strong Bad in a boat with the wagon. They are both holding glasses of wine (or some sort of juice), romantic music starts playing.}''

''{singing}''

Let's make this moment be the symbol of our lives 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon listening to a Taranchula LP on headphones.}'' 
We'll pawn your dad's computer 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon, under the stars. Strong Bad points to some shooting stars in the distance.}'' 
and we'll sail to paradise 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon spinning around, holding "hands".}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at the movies. Strong Bad drops some popcorn.}'' 
You're a girl... or maybe a wagon... 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Bad puts ketchup on some fries while laughing and smiling.} 
filled up with pancakes 
''{Cut to Strong Bad frolicking across a field as the wagon follows.}'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe a montage of the wagon full of pancakes—

''{Cut to a front door view of The Cheat and the wagon, both sporting business-class fedoras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and The Cheat being down on their luck door to door salesmen.

''{Cut to The Cheat lying in the wagon as the wagon rolls past.}''

''{Several doors slam on The Cheat at different angles.}''

''{singing}''
You can't do it so give up now 
Whatcha gonna do when your dough runs out? 
Ain't that a drag? 
''{Cut to the wagon sitting in an arm chair while the Cheat lies on the floor in front, smoking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops singing.}'' No, I got it. A montage of the wagon full of pancakes training—

''{Cut to Homestar in a black shirt that says "The #1" looking at the wagon in a field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —for the championship.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A wagon fulla pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!

''{Zoom in on pancakes as training music starts to play.}''

''{Cut to the wagon climbing the stairs of a stadium.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}''
Guts, guts, and might ''{The wagon's handle slowly collapses on top of a barbell.}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon on a track.}'' 
Lifting weights and feeling all right ''{Strong Bad clicks a stop watch.''} 
''{Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad and the wagon running past a sunset and an ocean.}'' 
It's a showdown going downtown 
You're gonna mess around showdown 
''{Cut to the wagon ascending the bleachers again.}'' 
Put your nose down showdown 
''{Cut to quick shot of wagon jumping up and down at the top of the bleachers.}'' 

''{Cut to Homestar Runner and the wagon in a gym as Coach Z looks on in a referee costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-yah! Hi-yah! ''{Homestar kicks.}''

''{The wagon's handle falls on Homestar, just like it did while training with the barbell, and Homestar falls down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oof!

'''COACH Z:''' The pamcakes wins!

''{A buzzer sounds and the score changes from 6–6 to 6–7 on the scoreboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Showdown.

''{Cut to Strong Bad at the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Those were some good montages, eh Watered Down? That was like, a montage of montages. The only thing we left out is the end credits photo montage. ''{Music starts up}'' Hit it!

''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the boat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}''
Partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon on the beach.}''
It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the movie theater.}'' 
''{Cut to a closeup of The Cheat lying on the floor.}'' 
'''CAPTION:''' The Cheat never sold a single box of toner. He is currently unemployed. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And a wagon... ''party party party''. 
Full of pancakes... 
''{Cut to Homestar kicking in the gym.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Homestar sold his "The #1" shirt for $3(US). He got a good deal. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad frolicing across the field, the wagon not in the photo.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Strong Bad went on to host some show on Animal Planet. 
It was cancelled before the first commercial break. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to the wagon with a fedora.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': After winning the champeenship, the Wagon Fulla Pancakes did some local TV spots for a used car dealership. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
Everybody does it tonnniiight... 
'''CAPTION''': It currently resides in Long Beach with its spouse and 2 children.

''{Homestar quits singing.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down onto the photo.}''

''{Wait a bit at the end to see what becomes of The Paper.}''

'''CAPTION''': The Paper stuck around until
email #173, at which time Strong Bad
upgraded to an inkjet printer.

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end, click on "4 Wheels" on the wagon to see Homestar, undefeated in spirit.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the now dark champeenship stadium}''
:I'm the best around
:Sombadubba sombadubba, take me down!
:I'm the best around!
:Dubba dubba dubbado, take me down!
:''{His score on the score board behind him turns from 0 to -1 as the buzzing sound is heard.}''

*At the end, click on "Strong Bad" to see another scene.
:''{Highly pixelated versions of Strong Bad wearing a pink jogging suit and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes are running through a highly pixelated city, which is the NYC backdrop (minus the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|World Trade Center]] towers) from Punch-Out from the NES.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a showdown going downtown
:You're gonna mess around showdown
:Put your nose down showdown

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*In filmic terms, scholars [[Wikipedia:David Bordwell|David Bordwell]] and Kristin Thompson define a [[Wikipedia:Montage (film)|montage]] sequence as "a segment of film which summarizes a topic or compresses a passage of time into brief symbolic or typical images." Also, montage sequences generally represent a longer passage of time than the also-typical "dissolve" or "fade" techniques between shots.

===Trivia===
*In the original version of this e-mail, the background was static while Strong Bad and the wagon were spinning around. It has since been fixed to blurred trees.
*This email introduces an updated, more symmetrical version of the gray "horns" on Strong Bad's mask.
*The Champeenship fight is the first time we ever see Homestar unambiguously wearing [[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]], aside from his Halloween costumes, his skating outfit in the [[Theme Song video]], and a near-pants-wearing in [[monument]].
*This is the last proper [[Compy 386]] email before the disaster in [[virus]].

===Remarks===
*Homestar gets less money for a shirt than he gets for a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[HR:auction.html|"Some Type of Online Auction"]].
*Strong Bad probably changed Steve's name to Watered Down to prevent another "[[Eh! Steve!]]" crack, like he did in [[kids' book]] and [[different town]].
*The scoreboard in the gym has the word "TIMES" written under the timer.

===Goofs===
*As The Cheat keeps getting doors slammed in his face as a salesman, the last place he visits with the blue wall and white door, the door frame ends before the bottom of the toon's frame, and the right end of the door ends before the right of the frame.

===Glitches===
*Between The Wagon's picture and The Paper's picture, there's a split-second sound clip that sounds like the beginning of "It's" from the Champeenship montage, and the Easter egg at the end.

===Inside References===
*The scene with Strong Bad and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes sitting in the canoe is reminiscent of [[lures & jigs]], where Strong Bad and Coach Z fish in the exact same spot. This is probably prompted by the [[lures & jigs]] DVD Commentary, in which [[The Brothers Chaps]] decide to reuse the lake, and which was presumably recorded before this email came out. In doing so, TBC also reused [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the [[Quite Fancy 'Chup|ketchup]] and fries from [[funny]], the [[The Halloween House|house]] from [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and [[The Movie Theatre]] from [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*The song Strong Bad sings when he falls in love with the wagon is reminiscent of the style of [[The Kinda Long-Haired Band]].
*The [[Taranchula]] album cover is the same one from the liner notes of [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], on which their song [[Moving Very Slowly]] appears. The name "Taranchula" also appears in the e-mail [[band names]].
*The first and last house that The Cheat and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes stop at are the same house. They are also the same format of the house that you give treats from in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Besides the [[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge|smoking game]] and [[big white face]], this is the first actual cartoon in which we see [[Smoking#The Cheat's Smoking|The Cheat smoking]]. Strong Bad originally acknowledged The Cheat's nicotine habit in [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*The sparkling water seen while Strong Bad is running on the horizon seems to be the same from [[Main Page 3]].
*The lyric "Lifting weights and feeling all right", from the song played during the training montage, may be a reference to [[dangeresque 3]]'s "Riding in a Corvette and feeling all right" lyric.
*"The #1" T-Shirt is loosely referenced by Strong Sad in the commentary of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search Of The Yello Dello]].
**Though the shirt Strong Sad refers to says "''I'm'' #1" according to him, as opposed to "''The'' #1."
*Strong Bad has a problem identifying things that rhyme with "agon" in song. In this email, he mistakes a wagon for a girl, and in [[dragon]] he mistakes a dragon for a man, or maybe a dragon man. He catches the mistake both times.
*The buzzer used for the scoreboard is the same as the [[DELETED]] buzzer.

===Real-World References===
*The song Homestar is singing in the Easter egg ("You're the Best") comes from the 1984 classic ''[[Wikipedia:The_Karate_Kid|The Karate Kid]]''. Homestar's headband, bearing the design of an old Japanese flag, is also a reference to this film, and has appeared before in both [[pom pom]] and [[Theme Song Video]].
**There is actually a song called "Training Montage" from Rocky IV by Vince DiCola.
**The scene during which "You're the Best" plays in ''The Karate Kid'' is another well-known martial arts training montage.
*Much of the wagon's training sequence (especially the wagon "running" up the stairs) is a parody of the training sequence from the immortal boxing epic, ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]'', including the "[[Wikipedia:Rocky Steps|Rocky steps]]".
*The Strong Bad Easter egg is a take on the popular [[Nintendo|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!]]'', in which players saw a similar sequence in between bouts of various boxing circuits (the jumps from Minor to Major, and from Major to World).
**The ''Punch-Out!!'' sequence itself was a clear reference to the training sequence in ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]''.
*There actually is a system call in the [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix]] operating system called <tt>creat</tt>. It creat(e)s a new file.
*The "some guy from a zoo" line by Strong Bad during the "Late-Night Talk Show"-style intro is most likely a reference to how such shows often resort to the gimmick of having zoo workers appear on the show, accompanied by their animal partners, whose mischievous antics can often get a cheap laugh from the audience.
*The line about Strong Bad's show being canceled before the commercial break may be a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Turn-On|Turn-On]]'', which was pre-empted by many affiliates a mere 10 minutes into its pilot episode.
*The End Credits Photo Montage song is reminiscent of the ''[[Wikipedia:Queen (band)|Queen]]'' song "Headlong."
*''[[Wikipedia:Animal Planet|Animal Planet]]'' is a TV network devoted to programs about animals and nature.
* The "Where are they now" photos and text at the end of the email are a likely reference to the ending of the 1973 film [[Wikipedia:American Graffiti|American Graffiti]], where it was first used, or the 1978 movie [[Wikipedia:National Lampoon's Animal House|National Lampoon's Animal House]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Wagon Fulla Pancakes really ''does'' do some spots for a used car dealership, as it shows up in a commercial for [[Senor Cardgage]]'s in [[Senorial Day]].
*Strong Bad and his pink suit from the Easter egg show up again in [[rock opera]].
*Homestar's "weekend" song plays at [[The King of Town]]'s party of [[boring (really)]].
*The "Showdown" song plays while Pom Pom and Homestar work out in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Paper does indeed stick around until email #173 ([[the paper]]), at which time Strong Bad actually does upgrade to an [[New Paper|inkjet printer]]. This change was also foreshadowed in email 172 ([[more armies]]) when The Paper comes down torn and sick looking. Strong Bad remarks that "that's a bad sign".

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MATT:''' Listen... ''{Strong Bad says, "actress Marzipan" in the background.}'' And we've got Marzipan right here with us!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, indecipherable}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' He called you an actress. Isn't that nice?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' Seems like usually he calls you something worse than that.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

''{Matt and Mike both laugh.}''

'''MIKE:''' You're doing a good job acting right now, saying the word "yeah" over and over again.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thank you.

'''MATT:''' Oh, thank you. A new word.

'''MARZIPAN:''' So, what are we here for, today?

'''MIKE:''' We're doing the commentary for the "montage" email.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We're here in this tiny, glass-enclosed booth, recording some commentary.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It is getting smelly in here, too.

'''MATT:''' It is. Mike and I have been in here all day.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It smells like Fritos.

'''MIKE:''' Have you ever seen this email before?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I... haven't.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Look, he's got a wagon fulla pancakes, isn't that something?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Those are not real pancakes.

'''MIKE:''' No? What are they?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I dunno, I think they're made out of plaster.

'''MATT:''' Look, Mike, there's the lake that did appear later as per your, uh, prophecy on the old DVD.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Your comments of the—

'''MIKE:''' ''{indecipherable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that we were going to use it later and— and we did, just a few weeks after that I think.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It really is starting to smell.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Let's comment more on the— on the email. Is that— that was completely new, that— I mean it looks kind of like the one from — can't say "job" — doesn't it? But that theater—?

'''MIKE:''' It's been modified for the theater, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Um, we should head back there someday, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' And maybe we will.

'''MATT:''' For a movie.

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your friend The Cheat.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Look, the pancakes are wearing a hat, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I see.

'''MATT:''' And holding a briefcase somehow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And now they're enjoying a highball.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that The Cheat smoked!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a problem.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that—

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' There's your boyfriend.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar had that— that's ''my'' shirt.

'''MATT:''' That's yours? Uh oh, 'cause he sells it later on in this email, so—

'''MARZIPAN:''' That was mine! I was wondering what happened to it.

'''MATT:''' He got a good deal for it, at least.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What'd he get?

'''MATT:''' Uh, I'm not sure. Probably, like, 17 dollars.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll tell him he needs to split the proceeds.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' He should. Sounds like it should ''all'' go to you; it was ''your'' shirt.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' A nice sunset.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's okay.

''{Pause}''

'''MATT:''' Ohhh, Homestar looks like Daniel LaRusso. His Karate's a joke.

'''MIKE:''' "You think you can rely on that crane crap?"

'''MARZIPAN:''' He's actually trained in Tae Kwon Do.

'''MATT:''' Really? Homestar is?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's probably why he didn't do well with the Karate.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Oh ho! He learned the wrong martial art.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' What do you think of this, um, end of the— end of the movie photo montage?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think it's okay.

'''MATT:''' See, look. Oh! He— no, sorry, I lied. He got it for three bucks. Not 17.

'''MIKE:''' You got a buck-fifty comin' to ya.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I— Animal Planet's my favorite program.

'''MATT:''' Hey, isn't "cancelled" spelled wrong there?

'''MIKE:''' Was it?

'''MATT:''' I think "cancelled" only has one L. Let's change that before we put out this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' We can— ''{Pause}'' Oh, it's not over yet.

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not, Marzipan.

'''MIKE:''' You might think it's over, but it's not.

'''MATT:''' Say something!

'''MIKE:''' Now it's over.

===Fun Facts===
*Daniel LaRusso is the name of the main character from ''[[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]]''.
*"Cancelled" appears on both the website and DVD. Though both are correct ways of spelling, "canceled" is generally a more American way of spelling it.
*Unlike her prior DVD commentary appearances in emails 1-100, Marzipan has largely dropped the premise that homestarrunner.com is a show and not "real" life.
*"Can't Say Job" is the name of the HTML and Flash files for [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tae Kwon Do|Tae Kwon Do]] (literally ''hand and foot art'') is, indeed, another form of martial arts.

== External Links ==
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*[[Podstar:sb_email_montage.m4v|download "montage" for the iPod]] (see [[Podstar Runner]])
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montage

Uglinessman — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:23:08 GMT

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[[Image:sbemail117.png|thumb|A girl. Or maybe a wagon. Filled up with pancakes.]]

Strong Bad "creats" a few montages about a wagon fulla pancakes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Pond]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Race Track]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Stick]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, November 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:15

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{announcing}'' Tonight on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Why don't you creat a montage? 
 
Steve 
Surf City, NJ</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "creat" as "cree-at" and reads NJ as "No Job"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''{in a high-pitched, mocking voice}'' Oooohhh! Why don't you creat an alternate reality where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down! ''{Strong Bad clears the screen and continues typing in normal voice.}'' A montage, eh Watered Down? Like, about whatever? Okay. I'll make a montage about...

''{cut to an empty field}''

Me. ''{Strong Bad appears}''

And a wagon. ''{a wagon appears, and a short tune starts playing}''

Full of pancakes. ''{pancakes appear in the wagon}''

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad and the wagon walking past Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

''{Wipe to a field where Strong Bad kicks the wagon calmly.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad pulling the wagon uphill. Music stops when Strong Bad starts speaking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, or maybe a montage of me falling in love with the wagon full of pancakes.

''{Heart wipe to Strong Bad in a boat with the wagon. They are both holding glasses of wine (or some sort of juice), romantic music starts playing.}''

''{singing}''

Let's make this moment be the symbol of our lives 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon listening to a Taranchula LP on headphones.}'' 
We'll pawn your dad's computer 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon, under the stars. Strong Bad points to some shooting stars in the distance.}'' 
and we'll sail to paradise 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon spinning around, holding "hands".}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at the movies. Strong Bad drops some popcorn.}'' 
You're a girl... or maybe a wagon... 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Bad puts ketchup on some fries while laughing and smiling.} 
filled up with pancakes 
''{Cut to Strong Bad frolicking across a field as the wagon follows.}'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe a montage of the wagon full of pancakes—

''{Cut to a front door view of The Cheat and the wagon, both sporting business-class fedoras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and The Cheat being down on their luck door to door salesmen.

''{Cut to The Cheat lying in the wagon as the wagon rolls past.}''

''{Several doors slam on The Cheat at different angles.}''

''{singing}''
You can't do it so give up now 
Whatcha gonna do when your dough runs out? 
Ain't that a drag? 
''{Cut to the wagon sitting in an arm chair while the Cheat lies on the floor in front, smoking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops singing.}'' No, I got it. A montage of the wagon full of pancakes training—

''{Cut to Homestar in a black shirt that says "The #1" looking at the wagon in a field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —for the championship.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A wagon fulla pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!

''{Zoom in on pancakes as training music starts to play.}''

''{Cut to the wagon climbing the stairs of a stadium.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}''
Guts, guts, and might ''{The wagon's handle slowly collapses on top of a barbell.}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon on a track.}'' 
Lifting weights and feeling all right ''{Strong Bad clicks a stop watch.''} 
''{Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad and the wagon running past a sunset and an ocean.}'' 
It's a showdown going downtown 
You're gonna mess around showdown 
''{Cut to the wagon ascending the bleachers again.}'' 
Put your nose down showdown 
''{Cut to quick shot of wagon jumping up and down at the top of the bleachers.}'' 

''{Cut to Homestar Runner and the wagon in a gym as Coach Z looks on in a referee costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-yah! Hi-yah! ''{Homestar kicks.}''

''{The wagon's handle falls on Homestar, just like it did while training with the barbell, and Homestar falls down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oof!

'''COACH Z:''' The pamcakes wins!

''{A buzzer sounds and the score changes from 6–6 to 6–7 on the scoreboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Showdown.

''{Cut to Strong Bad at the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Those were some good montages, eh Watered Down? That was like, a montage of montages. The only thing we left out is the end credits photo montage. ''{Music starts up}'' Hit it!

''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the boat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}''
Partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon on the beach.}''
It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the movie theater.}'' 
''{Cut to a closeup of The Cheat lying on the floor.}'' 
'''CAPTION:''' The Cheat never sold a single box of toner. He is currently unemployed. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And a wagon... ''party party party''. 
Full of pancakes... 
''{Cut to Homestar kicking in the gym.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Homestar sold his "The #1" shirt for $3(US). He got a good deal. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad frolicing across the field, the wagon not in the photo.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Strong Bad went on to host some show on Animal Planet. 
It was cancelled before the first commercial break. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to the wagon with a fedora.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': After winning the champeenship, the Wagon Fulla Pancakes did some local TV spots for a used car dealership. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
Everybody does it tonnniiight... 
'''CAPTION''': It currently resides in Long Beach with its spouse and 2 children.

''{Homestar quits singing.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down onto the photo.}''

''{Wait a bit at the end to see what becomes of The Paper.}''

'''CAPTION''': The Paper stuck around until
email #173, at which time Strong Bad
upgraded to an inkjet printer.

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end, click on "4 Wheels" on the wagon to see Homestar, undefeated in spirit.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the now dark champeenship stadium}''
:I'm the best around
:Sombadubba sombadubba, take me down!
:I'm the best around!
:Dubba dubba dubbado, take me down!
:''{His score on the score board behind him turns from 0 to -1 as the buzzing sound is heard.}''

*At the end, click on "Strong Bad" to see another scene.
:''{Highly pixelated versions of Strong Bad wearing a pink jogging suit and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes are running through a highly pixelated city, which is the NYC backdrop (minus the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|World Trade Center]] towers) from Punch-Out from the NES.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a showdown going downtown
:You're gonna mess around showdown
:Put your nose down showdown

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*In filmic terms, scholars [[Wikipedia:David Bordwell|David Bordwell]] and Kristin Thompson define a [[Wikipedia:Montage (film)|montage]] sequence as "a segment of film which summarizes a topic or compresses a passage of time into brief symbolic or typical images." Also, montage sequences generally represent a longer passage of time than the also-typical "dissolve" or "fade" techniques between shots.

===Trivia===
*In the original version of this e-mail, the background was static while Strong Bad and the wagon were spinning around. It has since been fixed to blurred trees.
*This email introduces an updated, more symmetrical version of the gray "horns" on Strong Bad's mask.
*The Champeenship fight is the first time we ever see Homestar unambiguously wearing [[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]], aside from his Halloween costumes, his skating outfit in the [[Theme Song video]], and a near-pants-wearing in [[monument]].
*This is the last proper [[Compy 386]] email before the disaster in [[virus]].

===Remarks===
*Homestar gets less money for a shirt than he gets for a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[HR:auction.html|"Some Type of Online Auction"]].
*Strong Bad probably changed Steve's name to Watered Down to prevent another "[[Eh! Steve!]]" crack, like he did in [[kids' book]] and [[different town]].
*The scoreboard in the gym has the word "TIMES" written under the timer.

===Goofs===
*As The Cheat keeps getting doors slammed in his face as a salesman, the last place he visits with the blue wall and white door, the door frame ends before the bottom of the toon's frame, and the right end of the door ends before the right of the frame.

===Glitches===
*Between The Wagon's picture and The Paper's picture, there's a split-second sound clip that sounds like the beginning of "It's" from the Champeenship montage, and the Easter egg at the end.

===Inside References===
*The scene with Strong Bad and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes sitting in the canoe is reminiscent of [[lures & jigs]], where Strong Bad and Coach Z fish in the exact same spot. This is probably prompted by the [[lures & jigs]] DVD Commentary, in which [[The Brothers Chaps]] decide to reuse the lake, and which was presumably recorded before this email came out. In doing so, TBC also reused [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the [[Quite Fancy 'Chup|ketchup]] and fries from [[funny]], the [[The Halloween House|house]] from [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and [[The Movie Theatre]] from [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*The song Strong Bad sings when he falls in love with the wagon is reminiscent of the style of [[The Kinda Long-Haired Band]].
*The [[Taranchula]] album cover is the same one from the liner notes of [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], on which their song [[Moving Very Slowly]] appears. The name "Taranchula" also appears in the e-mail [[band names]].
*The first and last house that The Cheat and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes stop at are the same house. They are also the same format of the house that you give treats from in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Besides the [[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge|smoking game]] and [[big white face]], this is the first actual cartoon in which we see [[Smoking#The Cheat's Smoking|The Cheat smoking]]. Strong Bad originally acknowledged The Cheat's nicotine habit in [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*The sparkling water seen while Strong Bad is running on the horizon seems to be the same from [[Main Page 3]].
*The lyric "Lifting weights and feeling all right", from the song played during the training montage, may be a reference to [[dangeresque 3]]'s "Riding in a Corvette and feeling all right" lyric.
*"The #1" T-Shirt is loosely referenced by Strong Sad in the commentary of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search Of The Yello Dello]].
**Though the shirt Strong Sad refers to says "''I'm'' #1" according to him, as opposed to "''The'' #1."
*Strong Bad has a problem identifying things that rhyme with "agon" in song. In this email, he mistakes a wagon for a girl, and in [[dragon]] he mistakes a dragon for a man, or maybe a dragon man. He catches the mistake both times.
*The buzzer used for the scoreboard is the same as the [[DELETED]] buzzer.

===Real-World References===
*The song Homestar is singing in the Easter egg ("You're the Best") comes from the 1984 classic ''[[Wikipedia:The_Karate_Kid|The Karate Kid]]''. Homestar's headband, bearing the design of an old Japanese flag, is also a reference to this film, and has appeared before in both [[pom pom]] and [[Theme Song Video]].
**There is actually a song called "Training Montage" from Rocky IV by Vince DiCola.
**The scene during which "You're the Best" plays in ''The Karate Kid'' is another well-known martial arts training montage.
*Much of the wagon's training sequence (especially the wagon "running" up the stairs) is a parody of the training sequence from the immortal boxing epic, ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]'', including the "[[Wikipedia:Rocky Steps|Rocky steps]]".
*The Strong Bad Easter egg is a take on the popular [[Nintendo|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!]]'', in which players saw a similar sequence in between bouts of various boxing circuits (the jumps from Minor to Major, and from Major to World).
**The ''Punch-Out!!'' sequence itself was a clear reference to the training sequence in ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky|Rocky]]''.
*There actually is a system call in the [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix]] operating system called <tt>creat</tt>. It creat(e)s a new file.
*The "some guy from a zoo" line by Strong Bad during the "Late-Night Talk Show"-style intro is most likely a reference to how such shows often resort to the gimmick of having zoo workers appear on the show, accompanied by their animal partners, whose mischievous antics can often get a cheap laugh from the audience.
*The line about Strong Bad's show being canceled before the commercial break may be a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Turn-On|Turn-On]]'', which was pre-empted by many affiliates a mere 10 minutes into its pilot episode.
*The End Credits Photo Montage song is reminiscent of the ''[[Wikipedia:Queen (band)|Queen]]'' song "Headlong."
*''[[Wikipedia:Animal Planet|Animal Planet]]'' is a TV network devoted to programs about animals and nature.
* The "Where are they now" photos and text at the end of the email are a likely reference to the ending of the 1973 film [[Wikipedia:American Graffiti|American Graffiti]], where it was first used, or the 1978 movie [[Wikipedia:National Lampoon's Animal House|National Lampoon's Animal House]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Wagon Fulla Pancakes really ''does'' do some spots for a used car dealership, as it shows up in a commercial for [[Senor Cardgage]]'s in [[Senorial Day]].
*Strong Bad and his pink suit from the Easter egg show up again in [[rock opera]].
*Homestar's "weekend" song plays at [[The King of Town]]'s party of [[boring (really)]].
*The "Showdown" song plays while Pom Pom and Homestar work out in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*The Paper does indeed stick around until email #173 ([[the paper]]), at which time Strong Bad actually does upgrade to an [[New Paper|inkjet printer]]. This change was also foreshadowed in email 172 ([[more armies]]) when The Paper comes down torn and sick looking. Strong Bad remarks that "that's a bad sign".

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MATT:''' Listen... ''{Strong Bad says, "actress Marzipan" in the background.}'' And we've got Marzipan right here with us!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, indecipherable}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' He called you an actress. Isn't that nice?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' Seems like usually he calls you something worse than that.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

''{Matt and Mike both laugh.}''

'''MIKE:''' You're doing a good job acting right now, saying the word "yeah" over and over again.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thank you.

'''MATT:''' Oh, thank you. A new word.

'''MARZIPAN:''' So, what are we here for, today?

'''MIKE:''' We're doing the commentary for the "montage" email.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We're here in this tiny, glass-enclosed booth, recording some commentary.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It is getting smelly in here, too.

'''MATT:''' It is. Mike and I have been in here all day.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It smells like Fritos.

'''MIKE:''' Have you ever seen this email before?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I... haven't.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Look, he's got a wagon fulla pancakes, isn't that something?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Those are not real pancakes.

'''MIKE:''' No? What are they?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I dunno, I think they're made out of plaster.

'''MATT:''' Look, Mike, there's the lake that did appear later as per your, uh, prophecy on the old DVD.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Your comments of the—

'''MIKE:''' ''{indecipherable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that we were going to use it later and— and we did, just a few weeks after that I think.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It really is starting to smell.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Let's comment more on the— on the email. Is that— that was completely new, that— I mean it looks kind of like the one from — can't say "job" — doesn't it? But that theater—?

'''MIKE:''' It's been modified for the theater, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Um, we should head back there someday, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' And maybe we will.

'''MATT:''' For a movie.

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your friend The Cheat.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Look, the pancakes are wearing a hat, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I see.

'''MATT:''' And holding a briefcase somehow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And now they're enjoying a highball.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that The Cheat smoked!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a problem.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that—

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' There's your boyfriend.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar had that— that's ''my'' shirt.

'''MATT:''' That's yours? Uh oh, 'cause he sells it later on in this email, so—

'''MARZIPAN:''' That was mine! I was wondering what happened to it.

'''MATT:''' He got a good deal for it, at least.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What'd he get?

'''MATT:''' Uh, I'm not sure. Probably, like, 17 dollars.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll tell him he needs to split the proceeds.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' He should. Sounds like it should ''all'' go to you; it was ''your'' shirt.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' A nice sunset.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's okay.

''{Pause}''

'''MATT:''' Ohhh, Homestar looks like Daniel LaRusso. His Karate's a joke.

'''MIKE:''' "You think you can rely on that crane crap?"

'''MARZIPAN:''' He's actually trained in Tae Kwon Do.

'''MATT:''' Really? Homestar is?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's probably why he didn't do well with the Karate.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Oh ho! He learned the wrong martial art.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' What do you think of this, um, end of the— end of the movie photo montage?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think it's okay.

'''MATT:''' See, look. Oh! He— no, sorry, I lied. He got it for three bucks. Not 17.

'''MIKE:''' You got a buck-fifty comin' to ya.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I— Animal Planet's my favorite program.

'''MATT:''' Hey, isn't "cancelled" spelled wrong there?

'''MIKE:''' Was it?

'''MATT:''' I think "cancelled" only has one L. Let's change that before we put out this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' We can— ''{Pause}'' Oh, it's not over yet.

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not, Marzipan.

'''MIKE:''' You might think it's over, but it's not.

'''MATT:''' Say something!

'''MIKE:''' Now it's over.

===Fun Facts===
*Daniel LaRusso is the name of the main character from ''[[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]]''.
*"Cancelled" appears on both the website and DVD. Though both are correct ways of spelling, "canceled" is generally a more American way of spelling it.
*Unlike her prior DVD commentary appearances in emails 1-100, Marzipan has largely dropped the premise that homestarrunner.com is a show and not "real" life.
*"Can't Say Job" is the name of the HTML and Flash files for [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tae Kwon Do|Tae Kwon Do]] (literally ''hand and foot art'') is, indeed, another form of martial arts.

== External Links ==
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*[[Podstar:sb_email_montage.m4v|download "montage" for the iPod]] (see [[Podstar Runner]])
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[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]
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Talk:montage

Uglinessman — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:21:00 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Yo Adrian! */

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==Opinion==
A brilliant e-mail, filled with funny jokes and catchy songs. I especially admire the "Strong Bad In Love With The Wagon Fulla Pancakes" montage. Great stuff. - 82.37.217.206

==Hellboy Funfact==
24.58.1.117, if you insist on having the Hellboy funfact then you need to explain where it comes from. -YourFuzzyGod (sorry about not signing)
:Yeah, I agree with YourFuzzyGod. Seriously, WHERE is the connection? Not all of us have read/watched ''Hellboy'', so some kind of explanation would be nice. [[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:41, 10 Nov 2004 (MST)
::We've not gotten any explanation. Therefore, I don't see why this thing is still in here; it's just too obscure for me to get, and I seriously doubt I'm alone.
::Either way, I'll leave the code here for people to mull over. [[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:01, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)
<nowiki>*Homestar's pronunciation of "pamcakes" could be a reference to the comic (and movie) ''[[Wikipedia:Hellboy|Hellboy]]''.</nowiki>

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Doesn't Coach Z say "The pamcake wins!" - i.e. echoing HR's mispronounciation? -- PrinceOfTown

-- I think so, I changed it.

Is this the best way to represent a montage?

Some of the scene changes are off slightly. At least one photo is missing from the end credits.

Uh, in the fun facts it says this is the first email to be written by a Hrwiki member. You guys should clarify that you mean the email itself, not Strong Bad's response, unless an HRWiki member actually wrote the script (which I doubt you meant).

== Background of the spinning scene ==

I watched the e-mail again just now, and noticed the background of the scene where Strong Bad and the wagon are spinning around has been corrected to a bunch of blurred trees. I watched it several times when it first went up though, and I'm fairly certain it was static then. So I restored the fun fact.

-- 24.58.1.117

== [[User:porplemontage|porplemontage]] wrote it ==

http://forum.porplemontage.com/viewtopic.php?t=141

'''Warning: Bad spelling ahead'''

== Watered Down ==

Need the Watered Down fun fact be there? There's really nothing indicating that it is a reference to Watership Down in the slightest. (And as I've read the book about three times, I've noticed the lack of any real connection even more.) --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:45, 14 Nov 2004 (MST)
:I have nothing wrong with it having been removed. I had a problem with it being removed with no explanation to back it up, or any summary at all. That's the kind of Wiki-ing that we '''don't''' want.
:That said, your reason works for me. [[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:45, 14 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Question Mock ==

(Forgive the pun.)

From "Fun Facts:"

<pre>Strong Bad, who makes a point of criticizing every e-mailer's
spelling and grammar, makes a critical mistake here himself.
"Why don't you creat an alternate reality where you don't have to spell
correctly and I talk like this." should have a question mark, but it doesn't!</pre>

Since Strong Bad is trying to mock the e-mailer, I think his use of a period instead of a question mark was intentional. In the e-mailer's "alternate reality," proper punctuation could go out the door too. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 21:31, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Even if this was unintentional, it doesn't strike me as a particularly fun fact. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 18:53, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Dear people at hrwiki,
I seriously appologize for my rude ways of edditing, which are also crude.
I ment no harm, please write a response later.

-From the jurk who kept edditing "Montage"

== Downtown? ==

Are people really hearing "downtown" in the training song's lyrics? I originally had it as

It's a showdown going down 
Now you're gonna mess around showdown

but it's been changed to "downtown" more than once. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 18:51, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

I'm pretty sure it's "downtown". Keep listening to the showdown easter egg and you will hear "town". ~[[User:PurpleKoopa|PurpleKoopa]] May 23 2005

== Ketchup ==

<pre>The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in animal</pre>

Umm.. there is no ketchup in [[animal]]. The same ketchup has been seen though, in [[funny]] at least. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:03, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[STUFF]] page and were closed. If you wish to contest the removal of any of these, post a comment here (make sure it won't be confused with any of the original votes).

=== hellboy (Declined) ===
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== scoreboard (Declined) ===
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

=== ketchup (Declined) ===
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)

=== Pants (Incorrect - corrected and added) ===
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== Unemployed? (Declined) ===

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just a joke Strong Bad made up for the montage. He didn't really go out with a wagon fulla pancakes, did he? [[User: Lappy 486]]

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== After the break ===
{{stufffact|Another show in the Homestar Runner Universe gets cancelled before the first commercial break: [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]]'s pilot episode gets cancelled in [[best thing]].}}
{{stuffverdict|15:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)|18:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)|automatically declined (previously declined [[Talk:best thing#Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show (Declined)|here]])|2|0|montage}}

== Limozeen? ==

I saw the [[best thing]] sbemail, yeaterday, and recognized immeadietly that there was a connection with Strong Bad's show and the Limozeen Pilot episode for their cartoon show. I wrote it as an inside refrence, does anyone else see that connection? If not I will gladly take it off. If so I will add it to [[best thing]]'s inside refrence list.

*I removed this for two reasons: 1) It's a fast forward, not an inside reference. 2) I see no connection whatsoever, besides the fact that the Brothers Chaps made jokes about cancelled TV shows twice. I really should have stuff'd it, though, so I'll go do that...

== "You're the Best" on South Park ==

If it wasn't for this e-mail, I probably wouldn't have recognized the song they used in the montages in the most recent episode of South Park (904, "The Losing Edge") - they used "You're the Best", and each time it played, I could only picture Homestar lying on the mat at the champeenship singing it. It was funny. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I know it's a late response, but it is episode ''905'', not 4. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Is it ya, or it??? ==

Ok, I have a question...in the "montage" email, the part that goes ''HOMESTAR'':A wagon full of pamcakes(this line might be wrong, but that is not my question)?? In the champeenship?? I'd like to see ???? try!! Ok, in place of the "????", is the word suppossed to be "it" or "ya"?? I've listened to it, and i hear that the word is "it"...some other people are saying that the word is "ya", anyways, I just want to get some opinions on what he is saying.[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 06:33, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:Oh one thing, send me your answers on my talk page, thank you!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 06:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::This exact line was a [[Quote of the Week]]. It's "ya". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:11, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== What is a montage ==

Well?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:54, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Movie montage|Click.]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Party Party Party!! ==

is there any way i could download that song homestar sings..."Party Party Party" or whatever...i love that!!!--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 22:53, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== More than one meaning... ==

Did anyone else notice that as the Cheat took a drag on his cigarette, the music said "Ain't that a drag?"? Not really a fun fact, just something I noticed. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

== DELETED! at the champeenship? ==

Am I hearing things, or is that the [[DELETED]] buzzer that plays after the Wagon wins the champeenship, and then plays again in the easter egg? [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 08:47, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, it is, although that's not really surprising, seeing that TBC reuse sound effects all the time (after all, who'd want to have to record a new one each time?) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Furthermore, I've just added this to [[Sound Effects]] for ya. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Zoo? ==
Am I the only one who thinks Strong Bad says "...and some guy from Mizzou" instead of "...and some guy from a zoo" at the beginning? [[User:EASports|EASports]] 20:09, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:And where would "Mizzou" be, pray tell? It's a play on how many talk shows have some animal guy show up every now and again. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Mizzou is a slang term for Missouri, and more specifically the University of Missouri. [[User:EASports|EASports]]
:::Learn something new every day, I guess. But that's exceedingly unlikely to be what he's saying. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I know. I just wanted to see if I was the only one who heard it that way. :P [[User:EASports|EASports]]

== Pamcakes ==

According to [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167190/quotes IMDB], in the 2004 film ''Hellboy'', he says "What landed you this job, pushing 'pamcakes'?" Though IMDB's info does not confirm or deny, this may easily predate the November 2004 release of this email. Before we dismiss this one, let's do a little research. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

:Plus the [[Rejected Costumes]] indicate that [[The Brothers Chaps]] are quite possibly Hellboy fans. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

::I always thought that it was just another example of Homestar's speech impediment, though I have to admit I've never seen Hellboy. Seeing as they've referenced Hellboy before, however, this reference doesn't seem too much of a stretch. Oh, and by the way, this has been discussed before [[Talk:montage#Hellboy Funfact|here]]. And [[Talk:montage#hellboy (Declined)|here]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
:::That's an old-school weak decline. That was before the current STUFF process existed.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

== Fixed glitch? ==

I just noticed that the little sound bit at the end of this email doesn't play any more. I thought it might just be my browser, but it works in both Firefox and IE. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm thinking either the Brothers Chaps might have fixed it, or it may have fixed itself the last time I updated Flash... -[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 09:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:I used to notice glitches like this in lots of emails on my old computer, and don't any more. I suspect they're not actually glitches in the flash file itself; rather, they seem to be the result of the video being lagged slightly and desyncing from the audio. Thus, at the end of the email, the sound plays forward into the easter egg segment while the video track, several frames behind, is still approaching the "stop and wait" command. I used to be able to force glitches like this to happen by running memory intensive programs while watching the cartoons. Upgrading Flash might well have been enough to fix the problem on your end; mine just went away when I got a faster computer.

== "You're the Best" Easter Egg ==

The score doesn't show up for me. Anyone else? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:It works for me, but it's darkish-grey-on-black... maybe you need to adjust your screen, or something? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Yo Adrian! ==

I'm surprised this isn't mentioned anywhere in the article, or even here on the talk page. All 6 [[wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]] movies have a training montage at some point, and 5 of the 6 movies have a scene or Rocky running up the steps at the Philadelphia Museum of Art (now known as the [[wikipedia:Rocky Steps|Rocky steps]]. While I don't think the concept of a montage in general is a reference to that, the training montage might be, esepcially since part of it involves the Wagon running up steps, and the general "you can do it" feel of the song is somewhat similar to some of the songs from the movies (such as "Eye of the Tiger"). I'm tempted to add this, but if it hasn't been added by now, maybe I'm way off, so I'll let this sit for a few days and gather some opinions. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 00:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:Since nobody responded after so long, I was going to edit the article and add this... only to discover it was already there. Oh well, at least I can fix the Wikipedia link to one that's more direct. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 22:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Ever and More

Uglinessman — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:13:47 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/doodoo

=="Cold Ones Light" poster==
In the background of when Homestar opens the meeting, there's a poster for "Cold Ones Light." The logo looks remarkably familiar but I can't put my thumb of what brand it's suppose to be parodying. Anyone know? I think it should go in the "Real World References" part, perhaps. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Reminds me of the [http://images.google.com/images?q=old%20style%20beer Old Style beer logo], but that's a Wisconsin/Chicago area brew, so I'm not sure that TBC would be familiar with it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:On the other hand, it is ''very'' close — it has the red and blue diagonal background on a shield, a similar font, and a red ribbon coming from the bottom. I think this is too similar to be a coincidence, so I'm gonna add it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I personally think it's just a coincidence, but I don't mind leaving it for the time being; at least until further discussion is made regarding it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gallery of Helmets ==

Should there be a gallery of the helmets the Brothers are wearing?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Loading, Friend ==

Is there any reason why the loading screen for this toon is "loading, friend,". If there is, please post it [[Irregular Loading Screens|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
*Probably because this toon is about a type of Brotherhood. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Pants Lawsuit ==

I have severe doubts about that reference. For one, the dry cleaners lost his lucky pants, Bubs just can't fit in them. And for two, The Brothers Chaps very rarely make references to current news stories, one so innocuous as this one wouldn't be a prime candidate for an exception. We're ''really'' stretching it here.

:I agree with your skepticism; here's the fact as I removed it, in case people disagree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
Bubs's remark about being in a bad mood because he hasn't been able to fit his lucky pants might be a reference to a news story about a Washington DC Judge who sued a dry cleaner for $54 million dollars for losing his 'lucky' pants. The case was thrown out June 25, 2007 - one day before this toon was posted.
</blockquote>

== doodoo ==

The transcript currently says that Strong Bad says "that's horse pocky, you fools!" I'm 99.9% sure that it's actually "horse pucky", which is semi-obscure slang for horse poop, aka a variation on bullsh-t. Not only does this make more sense than "horse pocky", but one of the characters on M*A*S*H used to say it, and references to 70s/80s sitcoms are pretty standard on this site. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 13:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Old-Timey

Uglinessman — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:30:00 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Anachronisms */

{{featuredarticle}}
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Anyone else out there think TBC may not exactly be movie history buffs? I mean, I'm definitely not, but I know this:
*The first successful talking picture, "The Jazz Singer", was released in 1927.
*"Steamboat Willie", the first suncessful cartoon with synchronized sound, was released in 1928.
*By 1933, the time when the silent Homestar cartoons were supposedly released, talking pictures were common, and by 1936, the time that the first talking H*R cartoon supposedly came out, silent films were on their swift way out, if they weren't already nonexistent.
*Using their current formula, any old-timey H*R cartoon released next year will be dated 1938... but in actuality, the next year, 1939, saw such movies as "Gone With the Wind" and "The Wizard of Oz", which would definitely be considered modern films, as compared to the more revolutionary, experimental days of the 1920s.

Thoughts? Comments? [[User:209.221.24.137|209.221.24.137]] 01:09, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

Excellent point. This kind of thing is absolutely "Fun Fact"-worthy IMHO. Please feel free to add this to the topic. [[User:Render|Render]] 08:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

-Well, we aren't sure that Parsnips A-Plenty IS supposed to be the first talking Homestar cartoon. Hey, maybe they'll start making color old-style cartoons. More like Looney Tunes.

in a way I think that next year if they do another 1937 toon they should just leave it at 1937 because sooner or later it wont be as old timey, like they will go in to that ww2 period of cartoons, next those god awful hanna barbra type toons, and ect. i think you know what im getting at here right ?

I think the article should mention that the whole "Old-Timey" universe, despite referring to actual dates, incorporates tons of anachronisms from different "old" time periods; I think it basically just stands for "old," whether that means 19th-century (Strong Bad's use of a ''telegraph''?!), 1910s-20s (flappers, prohibition, WW1 allusions), or 1930s (Great Depression). Clearly, the point ''isn't'' for it to be historically accurate; it's simply a TBC conflation of "the past," as 20X6 functions as "the future." --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 07:39, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Add to all this the fact that the atomic-age references such as jetpacks, ant-communist sentiment, and the atom symbols that show up occasionally are from the 1950s and you reach the conclusion that these cartoons are not exactly supposed to be historically accurate. Either that or TBC are ignorant of that historical period.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 23:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

==Nineteen Thirty Ecks==

Is it really appropriate to call them the "1936" characters when they've now moved on to 1937? In fact, given that 1936 apparently corresponded with 2003, wouldn't they be in 1938 by now? Shouldn't we start calling them the "Old-Timey" characters? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:1936 is inaccurate, and updating it every year would be a pain. I'm up to changing it to "Old-Timey" too. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::Um... opinions anyone? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
:::Agreed. The Chaps refer to them as "old-timey". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:09, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==1930s Homsar?==

Homsar appears to be the only main character without a 30s version. But I noticed that "The Bossman" in Mr. Shmallow has the same bowler hat as him. He also looks kinda like a big, fat version of our favourite song from the sixties. Could he be Homsar's Old-timey equivelant, or is it too much of a stretch?

Huge stretch. He doesn't look like Homsar at all, except for that hat. Nice work spotting that hat though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:14, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Cartoons? Films? ==

All of the Old-Timey flicks claim they are cartoons, which would mean that they are animated. However, they also feature editing mistakes (as pointed out) characteristic of films, most notably the slight movement of objects between reel changes. For example in Parsnips-A-Plenty, there is a flash when the camera shows the characters at the very beginning (indicating the reel change and splicing) and the characters are in slightly different positions after the flash than before. This would occur when actors take a break during reel change, and cannot move back into the exact same positions as before. However, cartoons would not be susceptible to this kind of glitch because the figures can be fixed on the cel, plus drawn figures would not need to take a break so they could be left in the exact position for however long it takes to change the reel. Even if they did move about (say the draught blows it), they wouldn't be different sizes because they'd only move on the surface of the paper but not closer to or further away from the camera. In many instances, however, characters do change size slightly (though it might just be me...) indicating that their distance from the camera changes, which would certainly have the implication that they are actual actors being filmed.

Sorry, this is kind of verbose, but I hope I'm getting my point across...

--Not a user yet :)

== Really 67 years difference? ==

I noticed a discrepancy in the 'toons: the "first Homestar talkie" was Parsnips-a-Plenty, dated 1936... but the 'toon was released in 2002 (in the real world) which doesn't correspond to the 67-year rule. Similarly, [[50 emails]] was released later (and contains speech) but, in the timeline on this page, it's listed earlier because it was also released in 2002. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:50, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Well, that seems to debunk the 67-year theory. Unless we expand it to be "just about" 67 years. I do bet, however, that if we got an Old-Timey toon this year, it would be dated 1938. The order of the toons on the article page definitely needs some work... It looks like Parsnips comes ''after'' all those that it comes before. On a side note: has it really been that long since [[50 emails]]? I remember when it was ''new!'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:: Eh, I started watching in 2002 and everything since then blurs together to me. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ww2 ==
anybody eles think that tbc will have a world war two old timey toon or Reference ?, like "Who put a Bengal tiger
in The hitler's ( or tojo's ) latrine? (Ach Du lieber!)"because of most the cartoons of the time usualy done that kind of stuff back then.
:no. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== animation quality ==

as a kid that grew up watch old cartoons like betty boop, felix the cat, koko the clown, the old mickey mouse(no I am not 80 years old Im 14 ), cartoons i am kinda offended that tbc make cartoons of the time look like there bad quality when there not because most cartoons or the time used a [[wikipedia:rotoscope]] to trace there animations on to make it look more realistic

== Merging the old article 1933 with this one ==
Give me some canonical references for declaring 1933 distinct from 1936. Had you not had such good grammar and formatting, I'd have just deleted this page, but here's your chance. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

:I only just stumbled onto this topic, but the page does seem to be justified, if only as a reject. The copyright date on the Kick The Can shorts is 1933, but the only connection to Main Page 10 is that both pages are silent. [[User:Render|Render]]

:I think that whoever 198.37.16.36 is was making the distinction that [[Kick the Can]] has the date "1933" at the beginning, and is silent, and [[Main Page 10]] is also silent, whereas toons such as [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]] and [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] are talkies, and Parsnips-A-Plenty is dated "1936" at the beginning. This could imply that the 1933 toons are the silent ones, and the 1936 ones are the talkies. Would this warrant dividing them into two categories, or just keep a generic "Black-and-white" category? -- [[User:thejesterx|thejesterx]] 21:20, 6 Oct 2004 (MST)

:I think it's definitely not worth it to split them into two categories. It's worth noting that Kick the Can was dated "1933", but it's still a 1936 toon in every way that matters, especially to people who've just stumbled upon the Wiki and are looking for information. Can somebody revert this guy's changes? I'm a bit busy this morning. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::Now we have the toon [[That A Ghost]], which is dated 1937, causing the creation of the page [[1930's]]. We need to nail down the name for this whole era to prevent further confusion. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:52, 22 Oct 2004 (MST)

:::TBC have on several occasions referred to such toons as "Old-Timey". That works for me. What do you think? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::::TBC also refer to the era as "1936" in the [http://www.g4techtv.com/html/videostream.asp?file=G4_Extras_Pulse_Homestar.wmv G4 Interview]. I could go either way. Would we rename [[1936 Marzipan]] -> [[Old Timey Marzipan]] ? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:49, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Works for me. Anybody else care to chime in? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

:::::I think Old Timey Marzipan sounds better, and it would be better than having a bunch of different dates. --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 14:11, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

First of all, I posted something like that on [[Talk:1936 Marzipan|this page]] and next, why aren't we having this on that^ page? [[User:Stongbah|Technochocolate]]

After browsing over the above conversation, I'm tagging this article as it doesn't seem needed. I see no information here that couldn't be merged to [[Old-Timey]]. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:I concur. Although it seems that all of the information is already on that article. Noting that 1933 was the earliest date is like having an article for the year 2000. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 00:24, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

::If the plan is to merge, then why delete? Don't forget about the redirect feature. We should merge and redirect, not merge and delete.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:50, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::: Merge complete. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Strong Bad ==

Wasn't SB's 1930s name "The Strong Bad", not "Old-Timey Strong Bad"? The "old timey" is what we use when we don't know the actual name. What's The Strong Bad then? [[User:Dripping yellow madness|Dripping yellow madness]] 20:12, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:He's referred to as all sorts of things. In Parsnips A Plenty, The Homestar Runner calls him just "Strong Bad". He's also been "Sir Strong Bad", "The Strong Bad", and "Uncle Strong Bad". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Exactly. See also the discussion [[Talk:Old-Timey Strong Bad#Sir Strong Bad|here]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== 67 year difference. ==

Suppose that's true. So:

*2008-2012 Wartime cartoons (going to color at some point).
*Late 2020s-Mid 2030s: The 1960s (Flintstones, Jetsons, Rocky & Bullwinkle)
*2057: The Simpsons

This is all hypothetical, but what if this all happens?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 16:10, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Considering That a Ghost doesn't appear to match much of the spirit of Looney Tunes or Snow White even though they are all apparantly from the same year, it doesn't seem likely. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Changes needed to be made regarding "Old-Timey" content ==

* I generally avoid Old-Timey cartoons, but from what I can see "1936" is a more common name for the era (or [[alternate universe]]) than "Old-Timey." I know my opinion is likely to go ignored, but I think it should be changed.
* Although he apparently has been given many "monikers" as that other one would say throughout the series, it may be a good idea to give the [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] article a new name. After all, if we can go around calling the storybook Strong Bad, [[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]] just because he was called that more than once, then we can definitely jump to small conclusions with Old-Timey Strong Bad. Man, even I've been brainwashed by the wiki fancruft; I almost capitalized the word "storybook."
* This post contains 100% pure USDA inspected beefs; no additives, no fillers, no extenders, no lame heavy metal puns. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
::But not all of these toons were 1936. Just some. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Darth, please read the whole talk page of the article. What you suggested was already discussed [[Talk:Old-Timey#Merging the old article 1933 with this one|here]] and [[Talk:Old-Timey#The Strong Bad|here]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
::::And I'm getting extremely annoyed by your "fancruft" comments. Plus it's clear you haven't done a lot of research of this subject, as it originally ''was'' called 1936, but then switched to Old-Timey because it was more accurate. Not to mention that you're sugguesting we use fancruft by calling Old-Timey Strong Bad something other than his name "Strong Bad", with the Old-Timey before it as disambiguation. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:50, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::You could be nicer to me, Joshua. Not to hold this against you at all, but I should bring up the fact that I'm hosting your game for you. Anyway, thanks for throwing the rotten tomatoes, peoples! I'm actually starting to like them... {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
::::::Well, it wouldn't hurt for you to be nicer to the wiki as well. Then we can all get along. But you completely ignored my question: Old-Timey Strong Bad's official name is simply "Strong Bad". How would using a nickname to address him be more official? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Me no good at listening, or reading for dat madder. Anyways, it was just an idea and I don't know anything about Old-Timey stuff, and I didn't feel like reading all the year-old Homestar propagander. Me going to grammars shcool now to lern. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== Holy Speculation Batman! ==

In the article it reads

<pre>
Each new toon appears to take place in a later year than previous toons. It is possible that the Old-Timey
dates are following the current date, with a difference of slightly less than 67 years. Kick
the Can, dated 1933, was released in 2000. Later cartoons released in 2003 are dated 1936, and
That A Ghost, released in 2004, is dated 1937. Should this be true, then the Old-Timey timeline would be:

1933 – Kick the Can
1934 – Main Page 10
1935 – little animal
1936 – Parsnips A-Plenty, 50 emails, 20X6 vs. 1936, 2 emails, Ballad of The Sneak, Mr. Shmallow
1937 – flashback, That A Ghost
1938 – radio
1939 – highschool, Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2, alternate universe
1940 – 4 branches
</pre>

This seems like wild speculation to me. I would appreciate if someone would enumerate what we '''know''' vs what we ''think'', and then what other assumptions are built around this. When reading the article, the content seemed very weak and speculative. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:Why is 4 branches set as 1940? It was released November 13, 2006? {{unsigned|68.94.235.178|68.94.235.178}}

::IMO, this article has a lot of speculation and I will wait a week or two for any objections to trimming some of the fat on this article to get back to what we know and not deviate into the realm of wild speculation. I would like to hear discussion on the subject before making any substantial changes. I await your input. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

:::I don't think that the timeline is that speculative. As long as each new toon that has an old-timey date follows the same format, I think we can safely leave that in. Though it seems 4 branches is dated wrong in the timetable. Besides that, I'm happy leaving it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

::::But where are we getting our facts from? This look all made up. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

:::::If there is a correlation between the release dates listed for the Old-Timey toons and the real-world release dates, and it holds up with no fudging (I haven't done any research), then that much at least should be mentioned. On the other hand, I'm not sure we should speculate on things like [[4 branches]] without some kind of continuing evidence (like, if a new toon had a '40s date on it). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::We also need to list all the [[Old-Timey]] toons somehow. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That we can do without speculation. Really, where's the evidence that TBC are subtracting so many years from the current one to date the Old-Timey toons? Look at the "evidence" - Kick the Can is ancient H*R, and the date cannot be relied upon as meaning anything. They probably used 1936 to balance 20X6, so that year is what it is, and no more. That A Ghost is in 1937. But no other toons are so dated. It really is the height of speculation to date the Old-Timey portions of 4 branches as 1940. This info is fine mentioned here on the talk, but it has no place in the article. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Agree'd. And it no longer is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I still think the date thing should be noted. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anachronisms ==

There seem to be many anachronisms among the various Old Timey cartoons. THe most glaring of which is in the Mr. Shmallow cartoon showing a man and a woman with jetpacks and clear space helmets in front of a background consisting of four-pointed stars. Also, the character of Rumble Red. Setting aside the fact that the [[Wikipedia:Red scare|Red Scare]] was not as prevalent in the '30s as it was after WWII, those images of jetpacks and aliens in the style of Rumble Red are more along the lines of popular science-fiction settings of the late '50s-early '60s. Should these anachronisms be noted in the article?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:That's kinda explaining the joke, isn't it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::I don't see how it would be... I suspect that those anachronisms aren't part of the joke, but rather TBC not understanding the era that they are trying to portray. Those sorts of inaccuracies always make me enjoy Old-Timey cartoons less, which is a shame because I really enjoy the Old-Timey idea.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:::They are obviously aware that the images aren't from the era they are portraying, they're not morons... and the reason that it's "part of the joke" is that it's a certain type of absurdism. Absurdism seems to be the underlying theme for most of the humour on the site, mangled eras in a fictional past version of a fictional present is just going with the flow. What you call anachronisms are more like intentional absurdities. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 09:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

==Template==

How's this for a template of all the Old Timey Characters?

<table align="center" id="navbox" style="margin: 0 auto 0 auto; padding: 0.2em">
<tr><th align="center" style="background:gray" width="100%">[[Old-Timey Characters|Old-Timey]] [[Items#Old-Timey Characters|Characters]]</th></tr>
<tr><td align = "center" valign="top" style="font-size: smaller;">
[[The Homestar Runner]] | [[Fat Dudley]] | [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] | [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] | [[The Sneak]]

[[Strong Man]] | [[Old-Timey Bubs]] | [[The Fort Wayne Locomotive]] | [[The Demon]] | [[Sickly Sam]]

[[The Kaiser]]
</td></tr></table>
<noinclude>[[Category:Navigation_Templates|C]]</noinclude>

--{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 23:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:montage

Uglinessman — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:56:08 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/Yo Adrian!

more armies

Uglinessman — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:45:26 GMT

Uglinessman: there's still no hard evidence that the joke is a reference to SB's comment about the name... it might just be that Trogdor is popular and Firebert is not

{{sbenav|172}}
[[Image:Homestar Frank Bennedetto more armies.png|thumb|"The Homestarmy has a career for you in the no-armed forces!"]]

Strong Bad gives us a tour of his Vaguely Military Career Fair.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}/[[Tito]], {{film|Strong Mad|}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Firebert}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The King of Town's Castle]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, May 21, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:40

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Bring to me a suitable email, that I may check it down.

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: Strong Badia's Army</div>
Mr Strong Bad 
I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army. 
Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information 
that could assist. 
Yours, 
Paul, Perth 
Western Australia
</blockquote>
''{He says "Mr" as "Mere" and says "Hey, I am no mere Strong Bad, okay?!" after reading "Mr Strong Bad". He also reads "Paul, Perth" as one name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears screen, typing}'' Look Perthy Paul, I've been over this already: Strong Badia doesn't have/need''{pronounces have-slash-need}'' an army. When we need muscle, we farm it out to our favorite band of shady missionaries, er I mean mercenaries, MERCENARIES! In fact, if your sons are so bonzer to enlist, they can ''{doesn't type}'' just ''{typing}'' swing by their booth at our Vaguely Military Career Fair, which just happens to be starting right now!

''{Cut to a wide shot of The Cheat next to Strong Bad. Strong Bad turns around to face him.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, it's not for three weeks. Okay.

''{Cut to a black screen reading "2 weeks later...". Cut to Strong Bad in his basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Introducing...

''{Cut to The Cheat on the couch, with a cane, a bowtie, and a top hat reading "Tito". He turns left and right and waves.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...Tito the Tophaticent! And his beautiful assistant,

''{Cut to a wide shot of the basement, revealing Strong Mad standing behind the couch with two basketballs in his singlet. He waves. Silhouettes of Strong Bad and Strong Sad are visible.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad with two basketballs shoved down his singlet!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yaaaay!! ''{claps}''

''{Cut to a black screen reading "1 week later...". Cut to Strong Bad sitting at a booth in the gymnasium, wearing an eyepatch and a taped-on mustache. On the booth is a muffler, a stack of brochures, and a pipe. Coach Z walks by.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Excuse me, Ganglo-Saxon. You look like the type of kid that gets his lunch handed to him daily. Well, if you'd like to be the lunch-handerer ''{raises his glove, revealing a robotic claw taped to it}'' for a change, then boy, do the On Point Kings have a brochure for you!

''{Strong Bad puts the brochure on the table. It has the On Point Kings logo on top of a camouflage-style background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a Roman trifold ''{opens brochure}'' printed on 65-pound cardstock.

''{The camera zooms in on the various features of the brochure.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 14-point Helvetica, laid out using QuarkXpress! A ''pirated version'' of QuarkXpress!

''{Flips open to another side of the brochure, which shows photos of the On Point Kings in action.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op.

''{Cut to footage of Strong Badia, where a hopscotch grid has been drawn on the dirt. Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are there, all wearing fake mustaches. "CLASSIFIED" has been stamped on the screen. The Cheat starts hopping along the squares.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, The Cheat! Go for sixies! ''Sixies!''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the booth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' How do you ever expect to get an ''{shows off his features as he says them}'' eye patch, mustache, or robotic arm like this— clank, clank— unless you join up with a shady band of missionaries? Oh, crap, I did it again! ''{camera moves away}'' Mercenaries, I meant mercenaries! ''{screen pans right and fades out}'' We do bad stuff!

''{Cut to The King of Town at his booth. He is asleep and snoring while he is fed Giblet Gravy through a mask and tube. There is a TV on his table, as well as a sign reading, "Out to lunch Watch video" and an arrow pointing to the TV. Two posters are on the wall. Cut to the video, which shows a silhouetted The Poopsmith slowly climbing up the King's castle.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The drive... the power... the skills... the motivation... the power again...

''{The Poopsmith has reached the top of the castle. He grabs his shovel.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The fortitude...

''{The Poopsmith holds the shovel by his side.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The strive...

''{The Poopsmith holds the shovel up to the dark, cloudy sky as lightning flashes.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The ideals...

''{Lightning strikes the shovel, which gives The Poopsmith dark gloves, a gas mask, a club, and a shield.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The list of attributes...

''{Zoom out on The Poopsmith, revealing a black and white poster with five Poopsmiths with the same gear. A King of Town logo is in the center and the words "The Municipality" are at the top.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Municipality. ''{words appear as the King says them}'' Honor. Valor. Buttor.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner's booth. Homestar is wearing an orange bowl on his head and is wielding an orange spoon. The table has the popcorn machine, Frank Bennedetto, behind a sign reading "Not free popcorn, memorial statue". There are two posters on the wall, one depicting Homestar wearing the same outfit, with the caption "Do You Has?", and another depicting the orange bowl and spoon, with the caption "Boond You Like?"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, young man! Say, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man! ''{points at viewer}'' You look like you come from a long line of five bucks-havers. Well, the Homestarmy has a career for ''you'' ''{points}'' in the no-armed forces!

''{Cut to closeup of Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, you good at video games? I'm not good at video games. ''{chuckles}'' The last time I fired up one of my old Sega tapes, it made me a waffle. ''{zoom in}'' Say, you like pamphlets? ''{holds up a book of "Game Program Instructions" by Videlectrix}'' Here's a pamphlet! ''{tears book in half}'' Here's two pamphlets!

''{Cut to the original wide shot.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, you got a girlfriend? Well, what if your girlfriend was a ''{holds up spoon}'' wooden spoon and an ''{bowl flies off his head}'' orange plastic bowl? ''{lowers eyelids}'' That'd be really weird, man. What kind of screwed-up kid are you? ''{angry}'' We don't recruit your kind! ''{waves spoon}'' Get out of here!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So that's fair, right Dinkum? You send your coolest son off to join the On Point Kings. He'll have to be jumped in. You send your fat son off to join The Municipality. He'll have to be ''{short pause}'' pooped in. And then you send your step-headed red-child off to certain doom in the Homestarmy. He's gonna wanna be jumped out. Well, I gotta go find the bicycle pump. Tito the Tophaticent's beautiful assistant's looking a little...lopsided.

''{Strong Bad gets up and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down with an odd, sick-sounding noise; it is crumpled and torn. Strong Bad peeks in from the right side of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. That's a bad sign.

''{Strong Bad leaves again.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Shady missionaries.png|thumb|Fairly Religious Overtones!]]
*Click on "Shady Missionaries" to see a [[Taranchula]] album of the same name.
* When Homestar says "The last time I fired up one of my old [[Sega tapes]], it made me a waffle", click anywhere on the screen to bring up a picture of a [[wikipedia:waffle iron|waffle iron]] with a [[Wikipedia:Sega Genesis|Genesis]]-like controller and cartridge attached to it.
*At the end, click on "Tito the Tophaticent's" to see a video clip:
:''{The Cheat, in his Firebert outfit, is standing in front of a sign that bears the Cheat Commandos logo and reads "Meet TV's Firebert!" After a long pause with cricket sounds, he takes out a fine tip red permanent marker and angrily replaces "Firebert" with "Trogdor." He smiles and sighs happily as a large crowd of people gathers around and mumbles to each other. The only discernible phrases are "Oh, Trogdor, man, it's Trogdor" and "He looks taller."}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[wikipedia:Mercenary|Mercenaries]] are hired soldiers not currently a member of any national armed forces organization, while [[Wikipedia:Missionaries|missionaries]] preach religious teachings.
*Strong Bad uses stereotypical examples of [[wikipedia:Australian English|Australian English]] in his reply, "bonzer" (meaning excellent) and "fair dinkum" (meaning true or genuine).
*[[wikipedia:Black ops|Black ops]] are covert operations which involve activities of a legally or ethically questionable nature.
*Giblet gravy is [[Wikipedia:gravy|gravy]] with the [[Wikipedia:giblets|giblets]], or internal organs, of turkey or chicken. It is usually served with the type of poultry from which the giblets came.
*"Jumping in" is a typical gang initiation ritual where new members are attacked by several gang members at once. The new member must fight back to prove himself before being accepted.
*"Step-headed red-child" is a [[Wikipedia:Spoonerism|spoonerism]] of [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild "redheaded stepchild"], an expression used to refer to a social outcast.
*"Ganglo-Saxon" is a [[portmanteau]] of "gangly" and "[[Wikipedia:Anglo-Saxon|Anglo-Saxon]]".
*The brochure for the On Point Kings states that the version of QuarkXPress is registered to "B4KDØR H4XXØR" on the third inside page. This is a reference to [[wikipedia:Hacker|computer hackers]] who use "[[wikipedia:Backdoor|backdoors]]" to crack software copy-protection.

===Trivia===
[[Image:On Point Kings brochure.png|thumb|"Bro, sure!"]]
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#dark seed|dark seed]]".
*This email contains another instance of [[Strong Mad smiling]].
*Apparently, The Cheat himself voices Firebert on the [[Cheat Commandos]] cartoon (Which is no surprise, as Firebert appears to be the only Cheat Commando incapable of speech).

===Remarks===
*The [[font]] [[wikipedia:Helvetica|Helvetica]] is not present anywhere on the On Point Kings' brochure. Part of it is actually set in Coolvetica, a knockoff version.


===Goofs===
[[Image:Backwardscoachz.PNG|thumb|Backwards Coach Z emblem]]
*Coach Z's emblem is backwards.
*As Strong Bad leaves the screen the first time at the end, part of his reflection appears on the wall behind the Lappy, and the right edge of the table disappears.

===Inside References===
*This email makes several references to [[army]]. These include:
**Strong Bad's claim that he already said Strong Badia has/needs no army.
**The memorial to [[Frank Bennedetto]], the only casualty of [[The Battle of Strong Badia]].
**A poster at Homestar's booth is captioned with "Do you has?" In [[army]], Homestar asks Strong Bad, "Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?" This poster is also available as a [[Downloads|downloadable]] [[wallpaper]].
**In [[army]], Homestar tells his troops to give five bucks to the Homestarmy. Here, he states, "You look like you come from a long line of five-bucks-havers."
*The Cheat's [[Tito]] costume is from [[part-time job]].
*The music during the Tito scene is from [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*[[The Municipality]] was previously mentioned in [[disconnected]].
*The Paper's poor condition is a reference to [[montage]], where it's stated that "The Paper stuck around until email #173, at which time Strong Bad upgraded to an inkjet printer" (this email is #172). In the next e-mail, titled "[[the paper]]", the upgrade was finally carried out by [[Bubs]].
**The sound it makes is an extended version of the one from [[Sick Day]].
* The [[On Point Kings]] were first referenced in [[origins]].
*[[The smashed muffler]] and a pipe are sitting on Strong Bad's recruiting stand.
* In his "[[Homestarmy]]" monologue, Homestar mentions [[Sega tapes]].
*The time displayed on the scoreboard is [[Pi|3:14]].
*Homestar's line about pursuing a career in the "no-armed forces" references Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible arms]].
*Strong Bad's costume, from when he is running the On Point Kings booth, features a [[mustache]].
*The sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Firebert Easter Egg is similar to the one he made in [[mile]] after Strong Bad left.
*The skeleton costume visible on the hands of the "shady missionary" on the cover of Taranchula's album was also worn by the guitarist in their [[Moving Very Slowly (video)|Moving Very Slowly music video]].

===Real-World References===
*The Municipality video closely resembles a commercial for the [[wikipedia:United States Marine Corps|US Marines.]]
**Similarly, the Poopsmith's shield has "Pooper Fi" written on it, a parody of the US Marines motto "[[wikipedia:Semper fidelis#The United States Marine Corps|Semper Fi]]".
*[[wikipedia:Joe Piscopo|Joe Piscopo]] is an American comedian known for his work on ''[[wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]]''.
*[[wikipedia:QuarkXPress|QuarkXPress]] is a page layout application for Mac and Windows.
*The pamphlet for the Homestarmy features the cover art for the [[Atari 2600]] version of ''[[wikipedia:Space Invaders|Space Invaders]]''.
*Strong Bad's mercenary costume closely resemblances that of [[wikipedia:Major_Bludd|Major Bludd]], a mercenary from the [[Wikipedia:G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (TV series)|G.I. Joe]] cartoon series.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|172|{{{2|11481}}}}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:Onomatopoeia

Uglinessman — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:36:53 GMT

Uglinessman:

Talk:Onomatopoeia

Uglinessman — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:48:52 GMT

Uglinessman: New page: What about "ptoo"? And isn't there some sort of "dwoo!" noise that H*R sometimes makes when running away? I have vague memories of these, but can't remember off-hand where either of them...

Talk:One Two, One Two

Uglinessman — Tue, 29 May 2007 04:18:05 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Freakin' Browser Issues */

== Bubs' "Anything Goes!" Sausage ==

From what I can tell, [[Bubs]] grinds the following into sausage:
* Raw t-bone steak
* Yellow tennis ball (or possibly a lemon)
* Box of [[General Tso's Chicken]]
{{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 21:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that looks right. It's definitely a tennis ball, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::I can confirm that it is a tennis ball. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 21:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Concur. It's the [[part-time job|Super Question Machine]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== New "Game"! ==

Is there some sort of "minor games" page I could put the last part on?[[User:The Magic Pixel|Pixelated Magic]] 21:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

:It would be listed under [[Games#Toon Games]], but I really don't think this qualifies as a game. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

::Why not? [[Homestar Runner and Marzipan Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] does. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

:::That game is in a separate Flash file.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Ok, let's try... [[Homestar's "Sid" Game]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::But that's a game. This is more of an activity. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 21:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

::::::Or a goings-on. [[User:194.80.32.10|194.80.32.10]] 22:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

::::::Well, this has to go somewhere. [[User:The Magic Pixel|Pixelated Magic]] 21:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

::::It feels a bit too late to say this, but when the toon appeared on the site, the ending linked to a separate page for the MixMastah. It [http://www.homestarrunner.com/onetwomixer.html still exists]. So, it has its own Flash file. [[User:70.244.56.152|70.244.56.152]] 21:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::Sweet! Never too late to say something like that :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

::::::I would say [[Audition with Marzipan]] is in the same vein, and that's considered a game, though I guess there's an interactive element since there's some kind of feedback. I guess it's an activity as much as the [[Limozeen Coloring Book]] is... maybe a new category is in order? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 00:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::::If this is a game, wouldn't [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] ''also'' be a game? It's interactive in the same way. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 00:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

::::::::Hmmm... maybe it is... but then so would be [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]... and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] has buttons, so that's a game, and then sbemails have easter eggs, those are like a game 8-|. So yeah, maybe calling it a game would be a bad idea ;-). [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 01:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::If you ask me, no, this is a short and not a game, but if we have a separate page for ''just'' the lone MixMastah 800 link, I'd say that could count as a game. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 02:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== "One Two" MP3 ==
The file does not exist as of now, and takes you to the classic "404ed!" page. --[[User:MadShrubbery|MadShrubbery]] 21:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== Makin' it Rain ==

Just thinkin' that Pom Pom's animation reminds me of the practice of "Makin' it rain" as frequently seen in rap music videos. This is especially topical, as Adam "Pacman" Jones, cornerback for the Tennessee Titans, was seen doing this very act in a strip club, and it lead to a shooting that left a bouncer paralyzed, and Jones suspended for a year from the NFL. -Telamon

:I'm no wikipenian, but I came in here to say what he said /\. Definitly a real world reference.

:I third this as a real world reference
::I think it most likely ''is'' a reference to "Makin' It Rain", but not to that specific incident. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 02:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== MixMasta 800, Now in Monorual! ==

Is it just me, or is the MixMasta 800, despite havin' Left an' Right pan sliders, only play in monorual? {{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 22:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
: The stereo sound works for me. What kind of speakers are you using? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:: Crappy, generic ones that I love to death? Stereo ones, though! Lemme check again... I know it wasn't workin' earlier. Like, back when th' "Again?" button was there. *checks* ...ah. Crappy, '''broken''' ones I love to death that aren't giving me stereo sound anymore. ...crap... {{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 22:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::: Addendum! I got my speakers fixed! It was just a loose connection, turns out. Sorry about that, folks! And the page is indeed in stereo. {{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 23:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== Canibus reference? ==

Rapper Canibus recently launched the Poet Laureate Infinity (www.poetlaureateinfinity.com) site, allowing people to mix the vocals and beats from one of his new songs. Very similar to this toon. Coincidence, or not?
:Coincidence. A lot of people do that. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 23:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== Big Fun ==
Did anyone else think that the MixMasta800 was a lot more fun than it a simple SFX mini-game should have been? Also(on a completely unrelated subject) this hasn't been added to the "TV Time Toons Menu" yet (I would link, but why bother? All of us know it). Does it(this short) link from the main page? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 01:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
:It is linked from the What's New? oval button, yes. It just hasn't been added to the toons menu. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Good to know. Now to ponder if it is a goof worthy of addition to da page...or just the fact they are probably working on a long toon and didn't remember to add it. Maybe the new sbemail even. Anyway, I'm still wondering about the funitude of the MixMasta. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 01:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== BPM ==

I dunno if this is worthy of inclusion in the article or not, but just by recording the samples and looking for the loop points, it looks like most of the samples are in the area of 9.164 seconds long. Taking each of Homestar's one twos as a beat, that's 16 beats per sample. So 104.757 BPM, for all of waiting to do a techno remix. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 01:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thats actually kinda...slow. It seems faster when you mix them, but...wow. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 01:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

==HomSo-NOT-lo==

It's way too big of a stretch to assume HOMSOLO is a reference to Han Solo and not simply an abbrieviation of "Homsar Solo". --[[User:TaranchulaVAmp15|Taranch Vamp]] 22:11, 29 May 2007 (CST)

I think it is a to much of a stretch but its good that someone here has loyalty to sw not just sb - The coolest cat around

== Peter Gunn ==

The first few notes of Marzipan's guitar riff remind me of the Peter Gunn theme. Anyone else hearing this? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 03:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's segment ==

Every fourth loop on the MixMastah 800, the sound Strong Sad makes when he hits his stomach is different from the previous three loops. Is anyone else hearing this? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 03:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== Freakin' Browser Issues ==

uch, i can't get the poopsmith, pom pom, homsar or strong bad effect to play when i play the short in firefox, and when i play it in internet explorer some of the effects don't sync up. is anyone else getting this? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 03:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
:on second thought, never mind IE, it's ok --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 03:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... Is Flash updated? If Flash refusing to load on Firefox? Close all tabs, restart the browser, and try again. No really - it might happen to me. But it hasn't. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

The thing is - you have to click Strong Bad's singing a bit early for it to <del>work</del> sync up. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

:Exactly... think of it this way, in the phrase "I'm a woman on the prowl...", the word "woman" falls on the first beat of the bar, so you have to time it so that the "I'm a" part falls on one of Homestar's "two"s. So it's like "one, two, one, I'm a..." - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 04:18, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:One Two, One Two

Uglinessman — Tue, 29 May 2007 03:05:44 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/Peter Gunn

Talk:more armies

Uglinessman — Tue, 22 May 2007 02:15:44 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Redheaded stepchild? */

== Benedetto!==
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? -
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? -
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Jumped in?==
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

== #173! ==
It looks like they might [[montage|take The Paper out]] after all. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 22:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Firebert to Trogdor==
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Redheaded stepchild?==
Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto, I've heard the phrase "gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child", and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase. And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Umm ==

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this. Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:more armies

Uglinessman — Tue, 22 May 2007 02:13:35 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Umm */

== Benedetto!==
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? -
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? -
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Jumped in?==
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

== #173! ==
It looks like they might [[montage|take The Paper out]] after all. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 22:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Firebert to Trogdor==
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Redheaded stepchild?==
Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Umm ==

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this. Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:more armies

Uglinessman — Tue, 22 May 2007 02:10:31 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Firebert to Trogdor */

== Benedetto!==
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? -
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? -
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Jumped in?==
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

== #173! ==
It looks like they might [[montage|take The Paper out]] after all. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 22:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Firebert to Trogdor==
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Redheaded stepchild?==
Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Umm ==

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous

:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Old-Timey

Uglinessman — Sat, 19 May 2007 23:11:51 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Toons and Appearances */ the Easter egg is more of an afterthought.

[[Image:parsnips.PNG|thumb|right|200px|Hungry in the 30s]]
The '''Old-Timey''' era (also referred to as the '''1936''' era) is the collective name for the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] [[Toons|toons]] said to have been made in the [[Wikipedia:1930s|1930s]]; they are in essence a pastiche/tribute to [[Wikipedia:The Golden Age of American animation|the cartoons of the time]]. The toons are in black and white and have intentionally sloppy edits, a grainy and scratched appearance, and a soundtrack filled with static and pops. The characters look and sound different from their modern-day counterparts, and often have different personae, much in the way that the characters in the earliest [[Wikipedia:Mickey Mouse|Mickey Mouse]] and [[Wikipedia:Looney Tunes|Looney Tunes]] cartoons are noticeably different from later incarnations.

Most of the toons from this era, explicitly set in the [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|Great Depression]], center around The Homestar Runner, Old-Timey Marzipan and Fat Dudley's quest for food, and Old-Timey Strong Bad's attempts to foil them with the help of his sidekicks The Strong Man and The Sneak.

==Toons and Appearances==
Besides full-length Old-Timey toons, there have been many appearances of Old-Timey segments in emails and other toons. Below is a list of all the Old-Timey appearances:
*[[Kick the Can]]: (All Old-Timey toon)
*[[Parsnips A Plenty]]: (All Old-Timey toon)
*[[That A Ghost]]: (All Old-Timey toon)
*[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]]: (All Old-Timey toon)
*[[Ballad of The Sneak]]: (All Old-Timey toon)
*[[Main Page 10]]: (All Old-Timey Main Page)
*[[20X6 vs. 1936]]: (The Homestar Runner is featured throughout the toon)
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]]: (The Homestar Runner, Old-Timey Marzipan, and Rumble Red have a segment about Decemberween)
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]]: (The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Strong Bad leave messages on Marzipan's answering machine)
*Email [[4 branches]]: (The Homestar Runner, Old-Timey Strong Bad, and Rumble Red have a segment about [[Polymascotfoamalate]])
*Email [[highschool]]: (In an Easter egg, The Homestar Runner, Old-Timey Strong Bad, Sickly Sam, and Don Knotts have a short segment in Rome)
*Email [[2 emails]]: (In an Easter egg, Old-Timey Strong Bad has a segment about "Uncle Strong Bad's Flavor Taste Style Chewing Powders")
*Email [[50 emails]]: (In an Easter egg, there is segment where Old-Timey Strong Bad, along with The Sneak, answer "The Electronic Message")
*Email [[alternate universe]]: (Old-Timey Strong Bad is featured in many places throughout the email)
*Email [[little animal]]: (In an Easter egg, Old-Timey Strong Bad gets in a never ending chase by Strong Man)
*Email [[radio]]: (Old-Timey Strong Bad provides one of the examples of different types of radio broadcasts. There is also a follow-up to this in an Easter egg)
*Email [[flashback]]: (In an Easter egg, there is a segment in which Old-Timey Strong Bad sends a message in his telegraph machine)

==Dates==
As far as we know, all of the toons in this style take place in the 1930's, although only three of them are dated. [[Kick the Can]], [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], and [[That A Ghost]] are labeled 1933, 1936, and 1937 respectively. The early "1933" toons did not have sound and were much more cartoony than the later Old-Timey cartoons, with heads coming off, body-parts changing and characters flying away, among other things. (See the [[Old-Timey Other Costumes|variants]] from ''Kick the Can''.) Toons released in later years featured sound and were more realistic (if only slightly).

==Color==
It appears as if the Old-Timey world is actually entirely gray, rather than filmed with outdated camera equipment. Old-Timey characters are still gray when appearing in more colorful time periods, as in [[20X6 vs. 1936]], when The Homestar Runner is seen on [[Planet K]], he is still in black and white with slight visual errors appearing over him (as in the full cartoons) and crackling audio whenever he spoke. Also, Strong Bad is still in full color when he appeared in the black-and-white Old-Timey world in the email [[alternate universe]]. However, the [[Ballad of The Sneak]] establishes The Sneak as being "small and smart and yellow" so the idea of color in the Old-Timey world is still open to debate.

== Characters ==
''See also the [[Characters#Old-Timey|Characters]] page.''
* [[The Homestar Runner]] ([[Homestar Runner]])
* [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] ([[Marzipan]])
* [[Fat Dudley]] ([[Pom Pom]])
* [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] ([[Strong Bad]])
* [[Strong Man]] ([[Strong Mad]])
* [[The Sneak]] ([[The Cheat]])
* [[Old-Timey Bubs]] ([[Bubs]])
* [[Sickly Sam]] ([[Strong Sad]])
* [[The Kaiser]] ([[The King of Town]])
* [[The Demon]] ([[The Poopsmith]])
* [[The Fort Wayne Locomotive]] ([[Coach Z]])
* [[The Barbershop Trio]] ([[The Announcer]])
* [[Mr. Shmallow]] ([[Marshie]])
* [[The Dapper Swindler]]
* [[Mr. Bossman]]
* [[Eustice Pietimer]]
* [[The Guys]]
* [[Old-Timey Ghost]]
* [[Don Knotts]]
* [[Rumble Red]]

==See also==
*[[Old-Timey Other Costumes]]

[[Category: Old-Timey]]

Main Page 10

Uglinessman — Sat, 19 May 2007 10:43:12 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Fun Facts */ feel free to rephrase my clumsy attempt...

{{mainnav|10|9|11}}
[[Image:main10.png|thumb|right|220px|"..."]]

Silent Homestar, based on the early [[Old-Timey]] style of cartoons.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, Old-Timey {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field#Old-Timey Appearances|Old-Timey The Field]]

'''Icon:''' Old soup can

'''Page Title:''' "Old Timey Fun Timey!"

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — A bomb is shot out of one of the factory's chimneys and then lands on the ground and explodes.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Old-Timey Strong Bad flies in from the left, lands on his head, rights himself, breathes heavily, and flies upwards.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — The Homestar Runner fires a can from his mouth.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — A bomb is shot out of the chimney again, lands in The Homestar Runner's mouth, and explodes in a puff of smoke.
*'''[[Store]]''' — The Homestar Runner looks backwards.
*'''[[Email]]''' — An Old-Timey Strong Sad (not [[Sickly Sam]]) wearing a helmet flies out of the big top.

== Fun Facts ==
[[Image:original1936strongsad.PNG|thumb|100px|right|Old-Timey, But Not Sickly Sam!]]
*Unlike the other main pages, this page is silent except for the sound of the "film" moving through the projector. This and [[Main Page 14]] are the only pages that have a continual noise played.
**The grainy noise stops playing after several minutes.
*The "Loading" logo for this main page is the older "twirling" one, instead of the usual "bobbing" one.
*This main page is the only main page with "flat" buttons. All other non-secret main pages' buttons have a three-dimensional appearance (except [[Main Page 22]], where the buttons are a mixture of "flat" buttons and 3D buttons).
*The [[First Time Here?]] button and the update button are in color, yet the other buttons are in greyscale.
*The amount of time that The Homestar Runner's mouth is open for each button is roughly the same amount of time it takes Homestar Runner to say each button's word in [[Main Page 1]].


== External Links ==
*[[HR:main10.html|go to Main Page 10]]
*[[HR:main10.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 10]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category:Main Pages]] [[Category:Old-Timey]]

User talk:Uglinessman

Uglinessman — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 07:58:56 GMT

Uglinessman:

== Swearing ==

Hey there, Uglinessman. I'd just like to point out that you're edit summary for [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:the_movies&curid=32152&diff=436269&oldid=434861&rcid=388217 this edit] contains "goddammit". We do not endorse, nor allow use of words not used on the official H*R site. Please refrain from using this, or any above-PG words. Thanks, --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 15:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

:OH NOES SWEARING WURDZ ON THE INTERNETS THINK OF THE CHILDRUN!!!11!!one!! - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 07:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

== Cleaning up talk pages ==

I noticed that you edited someone else's comment for clarity, spelling or grammar. As a rule, please refrain from editing others' comments without their permission. Though it may appear helpful to correct typing errors, formatting, etc., please do not go out of your way to bring talk pages to publishing standards, since it is not terribly productive and may irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:I believe that it is generally permissible to turn bullets into correct indentation etc. However, you need to be careful with changing the depth of indentation, as this may change the meaning of a post. Also, make sure you don't delete parts of posts such as [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:alternate_universe&curid=22052&diff=437626&oldid=437622 these]. Keep on tranglin'{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Uglinessman

Uglinessman — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:20:08 GMT

Uglinessman: timestamp

I previously left this page blank because I had nothing to say, but I started to notice a lot of talk pages where people use bullets for indentation, so I've decided to make that sort of a pet project of mine. Bullets, indicated in an edit window with an asterisk, are used for a variety of purposes, such as items on a list, or for a very short excerpt being quoted... but they should ''not'' be used for indentation to indicate the progression of a conversation, as it is visually distracting (or, to put it more bluntly, it looks like [[Crap|crap]]). As explained [[HRWiki:Talk_page_etiquette#How_to_format_talk_posts|here]], ''colons'' should be used for that type thread management.

Anyway, now that this page has actually been created, I suppose I should introduce myself. I am known in various places online as Ugliness Man, and I won't tell you my real name because it doesn't matter. My favourite SB email is [[virus]], and I currently live in [[Wikipedia:Calgary|Calgary]].
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For the sake of organization, I have decided to start keeping a list of talk pages which I have debulletized, and those which I have checked but didn't need to edit. This is mainly for my own reference, because after I've done about 8 or so, it will be hard to remember which ones I've already done. I was initially going to just do this for the emails, but for now I'm going to go through the articles on my watchlist.

'''March 29, 2007'''

:[[Talk:the movies|the movies]] - first one (and I got scolded for using a mild explitive)
:[[Talk:isp|isp]] - fixed
:[[Talk:radio|radio]] - fixed
:[[Talk:technology|technology]] - fixed
:[[Talk:band names|band names]] - checked, no bullets present at... er... present
:[[Talk:Crap|crap]] - there's bullets, but they seem to be correctly used
:[[Talk:Experimental Film|Experimental Film]] - ditto
:[[Talk:Everybody to the Limit|Everybody to the Limit]] - no bullets

'''March 30, 2007'''

:[[Talk:space program|space program]] - fixed
:[[Talk:senior prom|senior prom]] - fixed
:[[Talk:pop-up|pop-up]] - fixed
:[[Talk:long pants|long pants]] - lots of bullets, but all appear to be involved in voting.
:[[Talk:alternate universe|alternate universe]] - fixed bullets and some other weirdness
:[[Talk:They Might Be Giants|They Might Be Giants]] - no bullets
:[[Talk:Musical Sightings|Musical Sightings]] - ditto
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Most recent update: March 30, 2007, 10:20pm [[Wikipedia:Mountain_Time_Zone|MST]]

User:Uglinessman

Uglinessman — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:19:32 GMT

Uglinessman: added March 30 edits to list

I previously left this page blank because I had nothing to say, but I started to notice a lot of talk pages where people use bullets for indentation, so I've decided to make that sort of a pet project of mine. Bullets, indicated in an edit window with an asterisk, are used for a variety of purposes, such as items on a list, or for a very short excerpt being quoted... but they should ''not'' be used for indentation to indicate the progression of a conversation, as it is visually distracting (or, to put it more bluntly, it looks like [[Crap|crap]]). As explained [[HRWiki:Talk_page_etiquette#How_to_format_talk_posts|here]], ''colons'' should be used for that type thread management.

Anyway, now that this page has actually been created, I suppose I should introduce myself. I am known in various places online as Ugliness Man, and I won't tell you my real name because it doesn't matter. My favourite SB email is [[virus]], and I currently live in [[Wikipedia:Calgary|Calgary]].
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For the sake of organization, I have decided to start keeping a list of talk pages which I have debulletized, and those which I have checked but didn't need to edit. This is mainly for my own reference, because after I've done about 8 or so, it will be hard to remember which ones I've already done. I was initially going to just do this for the emails, but for now I'm going to go through the articles on my watchlist.

'''March 29, 2007'''

:[[Talk:the movies|the movies]] - first one (and I got scolded for using a mild explitive)
:[[Talk:isp|isp]] - fixed
:[[Talk:radio|radio]] - fixed
:[[Talk:technology|technology]] - fixed
:[[Talk:band names|band names]] - checked, no bullets present at... er... present
:[[Talk:Crap|crap]] - there's bullets, but they seem to be correctly used
:[[Talk:Experimental Film|Experimental Film]] - ditto
:[[Talk:Everybody to the Limit|Everybody to the Limit]] - no bullets

'''March 30, 2007'''

:[[Talk:space program|space program]] - fixed
:[[Talk:senior prom|senior prom]] - fixed
:[[Talk:pop-up|pop-up]] - fixed
:[[Talk:long pants|long pants]] - lots of bullets, but all appear to be involved in voting.
:[[Talk:alternate universe|alternate universe]] - fixed bullets and some other weirdness
:[[Talk:They Might Be Giants|They Might Be Giants]] - no bullets
:[[Talk:Musical Sightings|Musical Sightings]] - ditto
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Most recent update: March 29, 2007, 8:06pm [[Wikipedia:Mountain_Time_Zone|MST]]

Talk:alternate universe

Uglinessman — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:17:26 GMT

Uglinessman: bullets are not for indentation - and what the crap was with all those "-C"s?

== Fourth Wall==

OW! My fourth wall! Anonny-5:36 WST

You don't say! -[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

Now we have an excuse in case there are made-up characters in the "real" HR universe... it's because Homestar was trying to make a real fruit smoothie! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:[[20X6 vs. 1936|It was Homestar's fault all along.]] >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== That's the second biggest stretch I've ever seen! ==

Would you believe I nearly added that "This is about... the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of." as a Get Smart reference? Luckily it missed the article by ''this'' much. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:It's been so long since I've seen that show, that I don't even remember that that would work. I think I was seven or eight when it was taken off Nick-at-Nite. The [[depressio|dumb and crappy]] Fox version doesn't count. I refuse to let it do so. The only things about it that I can remember were that one of his shoes was a telephone, and that the bad guys were called "Chaos". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Last SBEMail? ==

Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but given the song at the end, and the length and "recurring characters" show... anyone else think that the one who suggested a while back that SBEMail #150 might be the last of them is correct? I hope not, but if it *is*, it's quite a sendoff. I particularly liked this one. -{{User:YK/sig}} 10:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Why would The Paper tell us to send Strong Bad more emails if it was the last?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 10:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I was a little worried too. But coming to think of it, TBC are doing it for a living right? So they probably won't blow up their source of income. Cisz 12:52 CET, 04-04-06

wahhh{{User:Csours/sig}} 11:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Dudes.... this is the 150th email. Of course they're doing something special for it. --[[User:King Nintendoid|King Nintendoid]] 15:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Plus guys, SB is going to update to an inkjet printer in 23 emails, although he might not considering it's been more than two years since he proposed changes to Strong Badia. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 17:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

And Dangeresque 3 still hasn't come out yet either.
...How many times have TBC kept promises they made in earlier toons? Peasant's Quest is one, Strong Sad not being invited to the second Halloween toon is another. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:I haven't watched this yet, and now I'm sad and excited. I ''do'' hope this isn't a final SBEmail, or the end of H*R, because if it was or if there is before I get out of High School (which is about 5 more years), I'll cry my eyes out. Or at least make a petition. OFF TO THE SB EMAIL! ''{dun dun duhhh!}'' --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that they couldn't end SBemails because most of the store items are based on SBemails. They enad it and they'll lose much, much money.--[[User:Shadow6000|s6k]] 01:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

For the record... I don't think they'd end the whole site. If this is "the end", it's probably just the last SBEMail. After which, they'd start something new. But that said, it's all just speculation on my part. The ending song "Save the last e-mail for Strong Bad" kinda hinted at that, though... But, yeah, as DumDe said, it also doesn't really fit that the Paper came down at the end. Why e-mail Strong Bad if there're gonna be no more SBEMail toons? Like I said, I'm probably jumping the gun. There's no need for panic right now. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Jumping the gun about [[Wikipedia:Jumping the shark|jumping the shark]]? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheFunniestGuy]] 04:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::My goodness, this is a cash cow they're gonna ride as far as possible. Who among us would not keep doing what we love if it pays for our dry bed and warm food? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I don't know. There're some times where it seems like they're running out of ideas, then a SBEMail like this one comes along and proves me wrong. Still, it's just a feeling I had... -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::::I really don't care if people are jumping the gun. Users freak out all too easily on this website. I prefer to egg them on. Anyway, I seriously doubt it will happen (any of the stuff these guys have suggested), but when I first saw this email, this friend of mine who was watching the email with me, immediately after the paper came down, announced with no doubt in his voice, "This is the last email." --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::To me, "save the last email for Strong Bad" does not mean that this is the last email; it means that the last should be reserved for Strong Bad to answer... just because he's so awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::Like I said, don't take my initial post too seriously. It's just a feeling I happened to have after seeing the ending song, and I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way. I'm hardly "panicking". I'd be upset if that was it for the SBEMails, but I trust that even if it was, TBC would make something just as good to replace it. I doubt they'd just ditch the site altogether. How many people, after all, have the dream life they do? To be able to make good money doing something they've always loved, and from the comfort of their own homes, no less. To give it all up and get "outside" jobs would be impractical, especially when you consider that Missy is pregnant, and she'd need Mike more than ever. After all, being your own boss and able to make your own hours would be a great thing when raising kids. But... now I'm just rambling. (And no, I wasn't mocking TBC at all; Quite the contrary, actually. I really do respect them. I think they've got a great thing going for themselves, and I too would love to be able to make a living -- and make people as happy as they do -- simply doing something I love that comes completely natural to me.) Point is, even if this *is*, in fact, the last SBEMail, it's doubtful it's the end of good ol' H*R. -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::This isn't the first time people have started panicing and worrying and claiming that the good times are over. Remember [[50 emails]], [[comic]], [[flashback]], [[rock opera]] and [[portrait]]? It seems everytime they turn out a great landmark email like this one (or even take a long break), people think that they'll never make an email quite like that again. As long as people still send in emails, they'll continue to churn out toons and sbemails until the site becomes unprofitable. All we have to do now is just calm down, wait till next week and not jump out the window crying our heads off. They'll be back. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if that post of mine (back in the main page archive) scared you, YK. Even if it's the last Sbemail, I know TBC can come up with something awesome to replace it. Here's to hoping for a 151 and beyond. -[[Walking Armless]]

:Oh, it's not like that. I was just wondering if you could've possibly been correct on that notion, given the content of this SBEMail. But, hum. I suppose my post here was a pretty premature jump to conclusions, yeah. Sorry everyone. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

This is not the last SBEmail. I admit I also got pretty worried, but thinking rationally, TBC would tell us. They wouldn't leave us hanging. - frldgf v2.13

The song leads me to believe that the last e-mails will be answered by someone other than Strong Bad, and he wants to be able to answer the very last of the last, at least. Just kidding.
-Zyborg

Ya know, homestar has actually answered an e-mail in a way, and so has the cheat. -Guest

Well, turns out I was [[senior_prom|wrong]]. Excellent. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 19:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==voip==
why this went away?
 voip{{User:Csours/sig}} 13:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Anybody know whether or not VoIP is or should be considered for a running gag? I know it has also appeared in TGS (#1, I think), but I can't think of anything else. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 15:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:That's pretty clearly a coincidence. VOIP! is a good onomotapoeia for the sound effect that accompanies Strong Bad's appearance/disappearance, while VoIP is an acronym for an emerging technology that lets people talk over the Internet. The two are really not related, and nothing else in the cartoon suggests that they should be. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Da Huuuuudge ==

This is the first time we hear da huuuudge talk or speak. Okay with that, yeah? {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

There ought to be something for da huuuudge speaking, i mean its lower-class opera...i think. [[User:ArchiveMaker|ArchiveMaker]]

== Wow... ==

Loved it. I am a sucker for big-scale reunion bits. Just ''yesterday'' I was reading the [[Twin Characters]] page and thinking, "I wonder if we'll ever see Strong Bad go back in time and coexist with Old-Timey Strong Bad?". {{unsigned|Bill|12:09, 4 April, 2006 (UTC)}}
:This has now replaced [[rock opera]] as my favorite email of all-time. It pretty much more than made up for the April Fool's prank(s). {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::The first time I watched it, I literally cried with laughter. The epic anthem at the end did me in. A touchstone email - that's why I chose the pic I chose fot this email. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::It's my new favorite SBEmail too. {{User:LePorello/sig}} 14:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I also think that this is a great email, but i don't think that this is my favorite. It definetly is in the top 10 though [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 20:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== What it is, my Doge? ==

Is it worth mentioning that [[Wikipedia:Doge|Doge]] was the title of the rulers of Venice or Genoa? [[User:Silly Dan|Silly Dan]] 12:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Probably not. The word was previously used in [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] and was removed from that toon's page as a fact. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Total Load ==

I wonder what the "TOTAL LOAD" is (one of the ingredients of Homestar's "real fruit smoothie"). Is it [[Wikipedia:Whey protein|whey protein]], or some similar nutritional supplement? At least, that's what [[:Image:Fruit smoothie.png|the container]] [http://www.affordablesupplements.com/pure_whey_protein_stack.jpg looks like] to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's Mayonaise, for some unknown reason.. --[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 14:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Mayonnaise? No, given the context and its appearance, I think it is clearly meant to represent a tub of weight-gain protein powder such as you would find at GNC or a high-priced gym. I'm intrigued by the "Total Load" label, though. As far as I can tell, this is not an actual brand name—I'd be surprised if it were. But the phrase sounds familiar, like it was an insult somebody used... somewhere... sometime... --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::Perhaps you were thinking of Jeffery Parsons' work on [http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/faculty/parsons/OCEAN542/total.pdf sediment delivered to the mouth of a river]. ''';)''' {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Nah, I was probably thinking of the [[Wikipedia:External electrical load|combined impedances of speaker drivers wired in series]]. Or more likely, I was thinking of one of the death messages from [[Wikipedia:Space Quest|Space Quest III]]: "Thanks, you've been a real pantload." --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Or maybe "[[A Folky Tale|Man, Strong Sad, that's a real load right there. ''A real load!'']]"... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::Given HSR's love of all things crapesque, perhaps "Total Load" has an assumed [of crap.] notreallyauser 11:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]] ==

Anybody find it strange they would use TWO of the Made-Up Strong Bad Animals (Sterrence and Da Huuuuuudge), yet have no mention of the Monstrosity, Deep Sea Fangly Fish, The Red Steckled Elbermung, etc. I guess they really liked Da Huuuuuudge or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, how can you not like Da Huuuuuudge? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The El Pardack and Red Steckled Elbermung were just pictures, so I don't think they had much of a chance. As for the others... I guess we didn't need too many variations from a single email. A single zoo scene with them all would've been great, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::My guess is that they rejected the Fangly Fish because it's a [[Powered by The Cheat]] thing (and it's a fish, which would need to live underwater). As for El Pardack and the Elbermung: Yep, both pictures. Never got anywhere. And the Monstrosity was Strong Bad himself with alterations, rather than a different incarnation of Strong Bad, so it probably didn't count. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I do think that it is weird to use 2 made up animals, but Sterence and Da Huuuuuudge didn't appear at the same time at all. [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 20:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Voice ==

Did anyone else think Coach Z's voice was off in this cartoon?
-Ben Mo
:Not really; I think he's just supposed to sound really freaked out/panicked in that scene... it's pretty similar to how he sounded when he thought he "killed" Strong Sad in Folky Tales. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Music ==

"The music in the Strong Badman comic is from [[action figure]]."

Wasn't it also reused in [[suntan]], and should this be noted?[[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, it was. And it was also reused in [[army]], as well. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:Maybe I'm misremembering (as it's been a looong time since I've played them), but isn't it the music from Doom or Quake or one of those old FPS's? I was just listening to this SBEmail (not watching), and it sure sounded like it.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:33, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage Fishing Easter Egg-- Connection? ==

The odd "echo" sound effect heard in the fishing easter egg is also used in the first episode of the mockumentary TV series "Fishing with John", by actor/musician John Lurie.

I'm assuming that this is a stock sound effect, and simply a coincidence. To my knowledge, the similarities end with the sound itself and "fishing". But as a fan of both homestarrunner.com and Fishing with John, it made me laugh.

Fishing with John seems like the kind of indie/cult television show that ''could'' be referenced by HSR, though.

Anyone else think of this?

:Well, the same sound effect was used in the "Fishing with Coach Z" segment in [[lures & jigs]], I'd say it was probably intentional (check out the commentary transcript for that email). {{User:Saturn/sig}}

Haha! That's so awesome. I haven't viewed lures & jigs since before I got my hands on Fishing with John.

::The scene also seems similar to the fisherman from [[Peasant's Quest]].

:::This particular sound is coming from a Casio SK-1, using the built-in "human voice" instrument. [http://www.synthmania.com/Keyboards/Casio/SK-1/Sounds/Factory%20sound%20examples/human%20voice.mp3] The SK-1 was often used in early toons, and in most Halloween toons, for the organ or ghostly sounds. The Cheat was seen playing on a modified SK-1 in a few toons, and the actual keyboard appeared in a puppet movie.

==No Little Strong Bad==

Not only is their no PBTC Strong Bad, but there isn't any Little Strong Bad, from [[flashback]] and [[highschool]]
:[[Atari Strong Bad]] is missing as well, as are any self portraits of him in Teen Girl Squad. Four of the made up animals are vacant also. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::And plus, there's no [[highschool|Strongbadiophage]]. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

===List of missing Variations===
*PBTC - Does not exist in an alternate reality, Strong Bad has watched the toons of himself before.
*[[Little Strong Bad]] and Baby Strong Bad - It was an alternate reality machine, not a time machine.
*[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]] - Just Sterrence would have made more sense, but I guess they liked Da Huuuudge enough to represent him too.
*[[Atari Strong Bad]] - All video games represented by Vector.
*Self Portraits, Drawings, Etc - They aren't supposed to be alive or anything, just a portrait.
*Strongbadiophage - Yeah, he could have been there. But also represented by Teenage Strong Bad.
*[[Teen Girl Squad]] - Presumably, the comic variations are represented by Strong Badman. Also, as with PBTC, it does not exist in an alternate reality; Strong Bad made them himself. What's more, they technically are drawings.
*The [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] version - Again, it's an alternate reality machine, not a time machine. It's one of the earliest forms of the Strong Bad as we know him today.

Seems like there's plausible reasons for missing variations by my viewpoint. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I understand all of those reasons except PBTC. Seriously, why does it have to be made be Strong Bad? It's an alternate version! He even features on the Everybody Everybody poster. It seemed like you just wanted to find some sort of reason and "It was made by The Cheat" was the only thing you could come up with.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 20:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:The second and last point above - they did include Teenage Strong Bad, so that argument is moot. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::Also, PBTC's idea is disproved by the fact that they included Old-Timey Strong Bad. An obvious choice, yes, but Strong Bad still didn't create him. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Maybe they wanted to keep the repetition to a minimum? Sterrance and Da Huuuuuudge is the only instance where they've got 2 from the same email... including the extra variations from [[animal]], [[highschool]], [[video games]], etc... would only make it repetitive and cluttered (how many jokes can you make with Secret Collect Strong Bad?) Tbird's reason for PbTC still stands – every alternate variation in the email was made by Strong Bad in one of the emails, PbTC was not. Which leaves his depictions in TGS, etc, which are actually supposed to be Strong Bad himself, not an alternate universe version. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::: Not so - Old-Timey Strong Bad predates the SBEmails and Puppet Strong Bad made his debut long before his email debut ([[Real-Live E-Mails]]). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, my PBTC reasoning was explained crappily. I fixed it. Here's also a whole new can of worms... [[User:Thunderbird|Thunderbird]] 07:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hm. The only problem with the revised PBTC Strong Bad explanation is that... couldn't the same logic apply to Keyboard Strong Bad? Granted, we never see him *watching* Sweet Cuppin Cakes, but the fact that Eh! Steve and the Wheelchair have appeared in Teen Girl Squad (though I don't know if Homestar Runner Pay Plus would be considered canon) means that they too were just "created" by Strong Bad, and not based solely on his imagination, per se. Eh, that was pretty badly worded, but I hope it makes *some* sense. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:You said that it's an alternate reality machine, not a time machine. Well, how do you explain The Strong Bad?
Hey, maybe Strongbadiophage ''was'' there, but just too small to be seen. ;) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::If Strongbadiophage was there, Strong Bad would probably have shrunk down to his size to meet him. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Say, one character that wasn't mentioned... [[pop-up|Senor Muybueno]]. Ok, so that's not a big deal...but, heh, it's a character we missed. Or does it count as a "self-portrait"? -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, it would have cool if they did a pop-up world. Though it might end up being too much like the Strong Badman comic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Also there was no Catlefunnies Strong Bad or Dangeresque. But Dangeresque I can understand. {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:Dangeresque was *sorta* there. Strong Bad wears his Dangeresque sunglasses in the scene where "Tiny-Handed Strong Bad" is "digging to China with his ears". I'm fairly certain that was an intentional Dangeresque reference. -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

What about the Teen Girl Squad variations? None of those ones are here either. I guess as with the PBTC versions, they don't exist in an alternate reality; Strong Bad made them himself, so they basically count as drawings. However, here's what I think should have happen if they did include a TGS scene: Strong Bad sees his TGS form making out with the hot version of The Ugly One, as seen in Issue 10. He then proceeds to make out with her himself, only to disappear suddenly. Strong Bad himself makes the disappearing noise. I think that's how it would happen if Strong Bad mets his TGS form. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not like Strong Bad would actually visit every single alternate universe, you know. He probably only ended up in a few, and um... the rest were offscreen durring the song and had no solos. yah.

===Characters that shouldn't have been there===

*Old-Timey Strong Bad - Exists in the past, not an alternate realty. Explained in the 100th email, with him mailing half a mustache to SB.
*Senor Cardgage - Seen around FCUSA often. Unless that was supposed to be creepy comb over Strong Bad.
:From [[Senor Mortgage]]'s toon description: ''Wait. Is Senor Cardgage real?!'' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
*Keyboard Strong Bad - watched, and admited created by Strong Bad in Decemberween in July.

So in conclusion, the whole thing doesn't make much sense, and we shouldn't read into it too much. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

What? Are you talking about? I mean...what are you talking about? OTSB should definitely be there. The interdimensional portal was invented in the exact same was as Homestar's time machine, which means that the portal would no doubt function as a time machine as well to some extent. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Umm, when talking about alternate universes in Homestar Runner, you just can't leave out Old-Timey. It's just...wrong. Even if he "shouldn't be there because he was in the past and not a new dimension", Old-Timey Strong Bad just HAD to be in an email talking about alternate universes. It would make less sense for him NOT to be used. Get what I'm saying?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

: I don't think there's any rhyme or reason behind the Strong Bads they chose. I think they just picked the variations they found most interesting or liked most. BTW, while I can kinda see an argument against Cardgage and Old-Timey, I don't see why Keyboard Strong Bad would be an exception any more than, say, Stinkoman or Sterrance, people that FCUSA's Strong Bad also blatently invented. --[Jay, not logged in] 19:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==USA For Africa==

The concept of them all singing together seems to be similar to [[Wikipedia:USA for Africa|USA for Africa]], where they got together pop music superstars and had them sing together to raise money to help the poor in Africa. Their most notable song was "We Are the World".

:Yeah I agree. I think the reference was pretty obvious and I was surprised to not find it in the Real-World Refrences section already.

::I've reverted edits to extend this to Live Aid and other later ones. Really, this is the original, and it's also a US effort (many oyher were British) and this is a US cartoon. So let's not keep adding other events making this TTATOT. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Universe Creator ==
You know, most of the universes Strong Bad visited were fantasies that he was supposed to have made up. (animal, highschool, etc) Does Strong Bad create an alternate universe every time he thinks up some new characters or time periods? The mystery continues! >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps each of us creates an alternate universe when we imagine. Pretty deep, eh? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Or perhaps we all exist in an alternate reality created by the imagination of somebody else. Perhaps even a "Strong Bad" somewhere. Pretty deep...er, eh? (It had to be said) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Or maybe it's all fate... we can only imagine things that already exist in alternate realities, and although we think we're making stuff up ourselves, we're actually just getting insight on something that's perfectly real. >.> Pretty de....ouch. Hit rock bottom. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Perhaps all the things we experience as "real" are just shadows on the wall of a cave that we watch as we sit chained to a chair with our backs to the opening of the cave into the Real World. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Dang, this is like the dream discussion from the SBEMail150!?!?! page. We all ought to be philosophers or something. Anyway, maybe our "reality" is only the dream of one small child in the REAL reality, and her world is only the dream of another small child, therefore expanding out into infinate dreams and worlds and realities and...I need to get some sleep. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 22:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe we're all just a bunch of kids with really big heads and enormous imaginations? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} (pretending to be working) 00:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I always thought an alternate universe was one where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down. -[[User:Compdude|Compdude]]
:::::::: Compdude, thanks for ruining a perfectly good philosophical discussion... I was really interested in what they were saying... [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 01:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Real-World References==
The description of shadows on a cave wall comes from an [[Wikipedia:Allegory of the cave|allegory]] told by [[Wikipedia:Plato|Plato]] in ''[[Wikipedia:Republic (Plato)|The Republic]]''.

== Eyeball Pear ==

I just realized- we finally have the answer as to whether that eyeball pair used googly eyes or not! It's like they read our minds. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:Or at least read our discussions. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Which is why I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_150%3F%21%3F&diff=prev&oldid=301121 taking credit] for that shot. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Oba Kaybe ==

Is it worth mentioning that Bill Cosby also used this phrase on an episode of The Cosby Show? Most people would be more likely to have heard it on the show than on Himself.
:Actually, I thought it was a catchphrase of one of the Fat Albert characters, wasn't it? Which I ''think'' would make it older than Himself. (There's an unusual concept...) But what I'm more concerned about is the inconsistency between the phrase in the Transcript and the phrase in the Fun Fact. I'm not in a position to do any careful listening right now. When I am, I'm going to take a closer look at this thing from several angles. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::It's how Mushmouth would say "okay". I've added this to the Fun Fact, but it could use some editing. {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::When he said it on Himself, it was in a dentist routine. The dentist aske the patient (who's been complaining that thanks to the novocaine, his bottom lip is on the floor) to spit. I'll start from the line right before the one we're talking about. '''DENTIST:''' Give it a try. '''PATIENT:''' Gib bit a trby? Oba kaybe! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I thought it was a common expression, like okey-dokey or kawinky-dink. And it's pronouinced oh-bee kay-bee. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It is a fairly common expression these days, but I'm reasonably sure it started with Mushmouth even if most people don't realize it. Since SB's pronunciation is clearly "ohbee kaybee", I've discarded the reference to Himself. (If memory serves, ACupOfCoffee's report of the pronunciation in that routine is accurate, but it has been a ''long'' time since I've heard it.) --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Missing Limbs ==
I think the ears and nose thing with Strong Bad is another instance of Missing Limbs (ex. Homestar, Marzipan, KoT, etc.) but not just 'limbs'. Coach Z not having a mouth would go along with this too.. Missing facial parts? --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 19:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
: Missing Anatomy. But everyone knows they aren't really missing. We see Homestar et al. manipulate objects and we hear Coach Z speak all the time. Maybe this should all be re-filed under something like ''Invisible Body Parts'' or ''Invisible Anatomy''. Or, if you like ''really'' bad puns, perhaps ''Grey-Area Anatomy''. {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::''Invisible Anatomy'' and the like would work, except that some people (like me) speculate that armless characters don't have invisible arms but rather telekenitic powers. :/ - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Peaks ==

Probably not worth a Fun Fact, but this is the third reference to Twin Peaks they've done so far- the previous ones were in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament]].[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

Dale Cooper spilling coffee on himself -- is that verified? I've been rewatching the series recently, and while I haven't made it thru the whole thing yet, I think I've found the scene in question, and there's no coffee involved. I think the coffee is just from Strong Sad's storyboard, which didn't have any direct Twin Peaks references that I noticed. [[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 06:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

==Sequicentennial==

The word "sequicentennial" means 150 years. The "ennial" is related to the word "annual". Because sequicenten-email is a play on words, it works in this case. However, if he were to have called it his sequcentennial email, it would be incorrect, as he would have had to have started in 1856 and answered one annually in order to celebrate his sequicentennial. Perhaps "1936" could also have been "1856".
:They've usually referred to their milestones as years though – a 50th birthday candle in [[50 emails]] and in [[flashback]] Homestar says "Happy 100th birthday"... Hmm, running gag perhaps? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::But he replaced the "ennial" with"email", changing it from 150-years to 150-emails. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

==No probalo, Bobalo==
Okay, Strong Sad's "No prob, Bob": ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHNvdXJjZWlkPW1vemlsbGEtc2VhcmNofHE9MTIgbW9ua2V5c3xmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=23 12 Monkeys]'' reference or TTATOT? Is anyone familiar with this usage outside of that movie? Which, incidentally, is a lot of fun. Go watch it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Nevamind. I just answered my own question with a look through the edit history (Bob The Builder). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Wait a minute, it has by now been revealed in [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/alternate universe|STUFF]] that this ''isn't'' used in Bob the Builder. So how 'bout it—''12 Monkeys'' or common phrase? Let's take a poll:
*I've heard this more than once in conversation.
#[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] (Waldo from Family Matters used to say it, and I use it quite often.)
#This is an extremely common phrase. I have never specifically heard it in connection with any TV show or movie, but I and my family use it all the times. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

*No, I've only heard it in connection with or quotation of the movie.

#[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]

== "Myrtlebeth" ==

I know it kinda matches up with "Elizagerth," but every time I watched the easter egg I thought Senor Cardgage said "Myrtle bass (like the fish)." --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 23:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's definatly Myrtlebeth here... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

==Running time?==

[http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1893/runningtime3ln.png Hmm.] I ran the e-mail in Winamp and it came out with a totally different running time than what's listed. Is it possible that my Flash Player is inaccurate somehow or something? Anybody care to clarify or help? I don't see why it would be inaccurate, but I'll keep checkin' about. (Note that it says 8:10 because of Easter Eggs, which I assume aren't counted in running times.) [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:Awesome. I have Audacity as well, thanks to my brother. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

::The thing ends at frame 4242. At 12fps, that's 353.5 seconds, or 5:53. It seems WinAmp is only counting 10fps, instead of the correct 12 (424 seconds is 7:04). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Recorded Backwards? ==
Usually, to get the effect of the Coach Z Easter egg, the actors will record the lines, reverse them, imitate the reversal and reverse it back – so the phonemes are in the correct order, but the sounds fade in at the start instead of fading out at the end. However I'm not convinced they've done this in this email. 
{{Audio|Backwards Forwards.ogg|Listen to the clip, forwards and backwards}} 
I'm pretty sure they've just faked it – the reversed clip clearly sounds to me like it has more of a backwards sound to it, with the fading in at the beginning and such. What do you people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:As I recall, The Simpsons also faked the effect for the second "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" episode. "Chief Wiggum. Don't eat eat the clues!" I got the impression that by faking the reversed speech, TBC were inspired by/referencing The Simpsons more than Twin Peaks.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::It's not necessarily a Simpson reference. But it is clear the backwards version shows they faked the backward speech - though I wish it were otherwise! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::definitely faked. it is impossible, completely impossible to make the 't' sounds that homestar makes using reversed speech. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)????
::::I've managed a pretty good 't' sound myself, with lots of practice. But if you get to that point you've lost the effect completely, and you need to use an earlier take. Not that that's relevant to the point, or anything.[[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 07:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== Baboon or Buffoon? ==

Buffoon makes more sense in context, but I can see an argument for baboon as well. How do we feel about this? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:Baboon, definitely. You can hear the 'baa' sound, as opposed to pronouncing it buh-boon. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::I think present day strong bad said Aah! Squshy grey tomaots instead of shades of greay tomatoes. alex H.

== Aäa! ==

The one problem with using the ä is that a search for "doppelganger" will not turn up this version. Also, searching for "doppelgänger" (intentionally using the character) finds only the character usage, not the entity. The search here is incapable of allowing a, ä, and &auml; to all be found equally. The same is certainly true with other characters. Perhaps there's a fix? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:An excellent point. Er, two points. Unless the admins can tell us there's some option to make the Search account for this, the fix is to settle for ''doppelganger'' with no umlauts, which is an acceptable English spelling in American Heritage and Webster's, and to do the same with other words when possible. Of course, there are some accented characters that should be kept, such as the distinction between [[Señor]] Havin' A Little Trouble and [[Senor Cardgage]], or entries on the [[Foreign Words]] page. But in general, we should probably just gloss over non-English characters as long as it doesn't make us look stupid. Can I get an amen, and then the doppelgangers can be respelled? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::I dunno. My dictionary (The American Heritage) as well as a brief search of online dictionaries shows the umlauted version as standard and the plain version as a variant. I'd hate to sacrifice accuracy for such a marginal return, especially knowing that MediaWiki's search "feature" is woefully lacking. On the other hand, a [http://www.google.com/search?q=doppelg%C3%A4nger+site%3Ahrwiki.org Google search] for the umlauted version also shows the plain version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think I will block anyone who tries to get rid of the umlauts. (Just kidding.) But seriously, it would look terrible not to write it with an umlaut. I admit, I'm biased on the matter, seeing that "Heimstern Laufer" has rather negative connotations for me, but still... {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Why? What does Heimstern Laufer (without the umlaut) mean? :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== She Hulks She-Hulks by the Sea Shore ==

This is gonna sound super nerdy, but I think it's clear that when Strong Bad disparages the "geniuses behind She-Hulk," he's not talking about comic legends Stan Lee or John Buscema, her original creators. The more hit-or-miss John Byrne was the, uh, genius behind "The Sensational She-Hulk," the series that brought in all of the trademark fourth wall breaks and panel-walks. (For instance, sometimes, She-Hulk would face the viewpoint and shout, "Byrne!") The previous She-Hulk series, "Savage She-Hulk," and the modern She-Hulk series, simply "She-Hulk," eschew such tomfoolery. More on She-Hulk can be found [http://www.toonopedia.com/she-hulk.htm here] [[User:67.100.125.201|67.100.125.201]] 06:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Please do not ever worry about sounding super nerdy. Remember, we're making an encyclopedia about [[Glossary#D|dumb animal characters]]. You've given us some very good information here, and I'm sure we will be able to use it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::Which I did. What say you to the revision, 67? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I say it's pretteh ni-ice! Good job. [[User:68.167.251.224|68.167.251.224]] 06:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC) (same person, exciting new IP address due to internet problems a few days ago)

==Not a tan==
In Goofs:
''"In his comic, Strong Badman has a visible tan, but when he appears in the Computer Room and at the end, he has the same skin color as Strong Bad."''
That wasn't a tan, that's a style artists use to show detail through '''shadows'''. --'''Not a User'''

==Say hello to my li'l friend==
Does anyone else think that the tacklebox line in the Senor Cardgage egg is a reference to the ''Scarface'' line: "Say hello to my li'l friend"? It seems like you were supposed to think that, but what you expected didn't happen. Anyone else agree? --'''Not a User'''

== Singing Off Keeeeeeyyy!!! ==

I want to add a note that Old-Timey Strong Bad is wincing when Stinkoman is singing because he is singing off-key, but I'm not sure how to word it. Can anyone help? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Doesn't look like a wince too much to me. And he's not off-key, nor all that out of tune. In fact, I reverted a comment in the transcript itself saying Stinkoman was singing out of tune. He's really no farther off pitch than Strong Bad ever is.
:Perhaps what people are thinking is this - the notes Stinkoman sings are:
<pre>
C D E F D A
I hope it's from a girl
</pre>

:And that last A is over a dominanttype harmony. Now, that's actually pretty common in this anthem-style rock, but I can see how the listener would expect a nice clean G there. Stil, not out of tune in TBC standards by a long shot, and OTSB's little lean and turn becoming a wince is a stretch to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:: It certainly made me wince. It's at least a quarter-step sharp. It's a lot more out of toon than Strong Bad usually is.
:::Well, it's less obvious with Strong Bad because he has a very low voice, he kinda grumbles. Still, even if we objectively think it's out of tune (and certainly it's not "off-key", if it's a quarter tone) we still have to decide if it's relevant to the transcript. I say nah. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I assumed OTSB was wincing because Stinkoman was singing very loudly, and right in OTSB's ear (if you can call it that).[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Although I think he is a little bit out of tune, I don't think Old-timey winces because of that. He is singing pretty loud. - frldgf v2.13

== Who wanted.. ==

Senor Cardgage to adopt Strong Bad? i was kinda feeling sad for SB when he got voip'd. --[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 10:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== What's the tune? ==

I can ''almost'' place the tune that Casio VX-bad is playing in the final song, but not quite. Anyone want to clue me in? And if you know, is it worth a mention on the page?

:It's already mentioned [[Keyboard Strong Bad|where it should be]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::It's exactly the start of the demo song from the Casio VL-tone.

:::I had a Concertmate-350. Was clearly that demo tune. Don't know if it has an offical name.

== Can somebody explain this... better? ==

The entry: ''This email introduces a new 'ridiculously huge when it's closed' frame to [[Stinkoman]]'s mouth animation.'' isn't very clear. It seems to me it's talking about the actual flash frames. But really, that's all I can tell. It's not something I distinctly remember from the email, nor do I get a clear picture of what it's talking about without having to go back and play the email again. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:I think it's talking about how he has a new smile added to his mouth movements. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's an improvement on the way the sentiment was ''first'' worded, "This is the first time we've seen Stinkoman smile." After I reverted that, thinking of the many times he laughs, I realized the writer meant "smile ''whith his mouth closed''." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Funniest word ever? ==
HELLOTE --[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

Nope - Sblounskched

== ALL of the dopplegangers? ==

I'm guessing TBC wanted all dopplegangers in this sbemail, but, I believe they missed two. Did they include Lil' SB and "Both my pixels" SB? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the variation ommisions have [[Talk:alternate universe#No Little Strong Bad|already been brought up]]. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fun Fact Cleanup ==

I removed a bunch of fun facts for various reasons:

*Strong Bad mentioned real fruit smoothies earlier in [[mascot]].

So what? It's not like that's really at all relevant.

*The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].

...among other places. And it's a standard cartoony sound effect.

*"Super Group" is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]].

Likely coincidence. Not particularly noteworthy.

*"Number 1 jam" is a phrase previously used in [[time capsule]].

And it's been used more times since then.

*Old-Timey Strong Bad previously used the word "Doppelgänger" to refer to Strong Bad in [[flashback]].

Are we going to mention every time someone repeats something from the past?

*Stinkoman's lyric "I hope it's from a girrrrrrrl!" is probably a reference to Strong Bad's desire for female emailers, as mentioned in the [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email rap]] of [[dragon]].

No kidding.

Just a heads up. If anyone disagrees, just go ahead and re-add the stuff I removed. That's the beauty of a wiki, after all. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Speaking of Fun Facts, should it be meantioned somewhere (if not) That Homestar was trying to make a health/muscle-gain smoothie? Some people may not get that. I mean, if they don't, they'll be wondering why Homestar wants a green smoothie with all this weird atuff, and blah blah blah, yada yada yada, I think I should go get some pants. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with most of those except the last one; I think that one is notable enough to point out, so I re-added it :) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::If you ask me, of the fun facts I removed, that's among the most obvious and mundane. Of course that's what it's referring to, but is it *really* necessary to note the obvious, that Strong Bad much prefers e-mails from females? -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::...yes. As these are the only two times (to my knowledge) that it is actually said that female emailers are preferred. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:38, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::But it's clearly in the nature of the character to desire the lady types. That's what makes this un-notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::[[long pants|"And if I email you, girl! Woman! Oh, would you email me, girl? Woman?"]] -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Also of note: [[brianrietta]] and [[sisters]]. And, of course, [[current status]], [[marzipan]], [[dreamail]]... And those're just off the top of my head. Different context, but all display Strong Bad's desire for female companionship. So, yes, it's a reference, but to a character's personality trait, not one specific e-mail. It's natural for his character that he'd prefer to get e-mails from women. It's almost like making a comment stating "Strong Bad called Strong Sad "dumpus" because he doesn't like him." -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention in [[Strong Bad#Character Video Transcript|his character video]], SB wants all the ladies to form a line to one side for make-out sessions. Then you've got [[2 emails]], where no ladies showed up! (Backwards!) Oh! And then there was the time in [[privileges]] where he went "EEEEE-MAIL ME GIRL! Once times! Twice times!" ... basically, it's just part of his character. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Which is why we have pages like [[Strong Bad's Ladies]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::::I guess I just don't understaaaaand the ladies. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== They Might Be Giants reference? ==

Ok, maybe I have too much [[They Might Be Giants]] on the brain, but I found a pretty much TMBG refrence. I know you guys said the thing about the backwards speaking refrence, and how it's a refrence to something else. I forget the song, but they "fake" sing backwards... it's pretty weird, and it's what I thought of when Homestar was talking like that. You can search it on TMBW, it'll say... Sorry, I'm probably annoying you guys. =) --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, I've heard of a guy that ''does'' sing a song backwards. I have no name, though. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::I Weird Al's video, Amish Paradise, he is shown walking to the camera while barnyard animals walk backwards as well as other people. Al recorded the scene walking backwards and memorized how to lip-sync to the backward lyrics. Given this example, The Simpsons (See above on this page) refernece and They Might Be Giants, the backwards talk became TTATOT, therefor - No fact. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::No fact except Twin Peaks, you mean, to which it is most definitely a reference. For the record, TMBG used backwards lyrics twice: [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Hide_Away_Folk_Family Hide Away Folk Family], which was faked and sounded like nonsense whichever way you played it, and [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Subliminal Subliminal], which just played the entire last chorus backwards at the end of the song. As for the guy who does sing backwards, I don't know his name, but I remember he first appeared on America's Funniest Home Videos something like ten years ago. They were so impressed that they brought him in to make a video that they aired on the show later. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::::And then there's "On Earth My Nina," which was written by John Linnell listening to a live recording of "Thunderbird" backward and transcribing what he thought it sounded like. [[User:68.104.201.53|68.104.201.53]] 07:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== what was wrong with what i added? ==

The sentences about the doppleganger and cacodemon?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== this cartoon has little to no continuity ==

HR.com cartoons make no pretense at continuity. A character can appear in Strong Bad's imagination, then in the past, then in the "real world". Making great efforts to explain what devices would be needed to make sense of the (lack of) continuities (time machines versus alternate reality machines) is stupid. I suppose you monkeys would also like to have a debate about what kind of magnetic levitation machines Marzipan and Homestar use to move things around, and the special sensors Strong Bad has in his boxing gloves to be able to type, and whether or Homsar is a zombie since he was killed in his first appearance, and [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_132.html how many angels can dance on the point of a needle]. come on. It's a cartoon. Just enjoy it, accept it. [[User:66.188.99.244|66.188.99.244]] 02:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps not, but the fact that both this and [[2 emails]] mention putting a Game Boy in a blender and using it to travel through time, or into alternate realities... it is obviously a ''reference'', even if it's not an attempt at continuity, and we would be foolish not to mention it as a H*R encyclopaedia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:By the by, thanks for calling the posters "monkeys"; people really respect your opinion when you insult them. Thumbs up, IP Hero. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 13:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::And, amusingly, the first debate mentioned has [[Talk:Lack of Visible Arms|already been had]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Modest Mouse reference ==

I think Old-Timey Strong Bad's show is a refrence to Modest Mouse's EP ''Everywhere and His Nasty Parlour Tricks''.--[[User:Cow Abductor|Cow Abductor]] 02:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:Disagree'd! Parlor tricks is too common a phrase to assume a connection there. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== transcript ==

Somebody read through this transcript. You'll find it's really awkward to get through because of the {comments} everywhere. Honestly, nobody cares whether or not Old-Timey Strong Bad turned left or right. It doesn't need to be pixel-perfect. I'd prefer it read well. [[User:86.136.82.105|86.136.82.105]] 12:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:It reads fine. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, here's a question. There's a portion of the transcript that waffles between

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! ''{jumps off the stool and towards the swirl}'' Jump!

and

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee!

''{He jumps off the stool and towards the swirl.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jump!

I understood the rule to be that if it's only a few words, leave the action inline, but if it's a lot, split it. This seems to be a split situation, but is it? And what really IS the rule?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:I think this case should be a single line because Strong Bad says "Jump!" almost immediately after "Ohbee Kaybee!" His jumping off the stool happens at almost exactly the same time - just a little after, but close enough that we might even be able to get away with:

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! Jump!

''{Strong Bad jumps off the stool and towards the swirl. Then something happens. You know the rest.}''

:{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

::To quote the standards:
<blockquote>If a character does something while speaking a line of dialogue, or if more description is needed for their manner of speaking or inflection (e.g. if they're singing or whispering) the action (if it is not too long to describe in a few words) can be enclosed in curly braces — { } — and made italic, like this: {goes to the refrigerator}. Note that the curly braces themselves are also italic. Short actions like these do not need to be proper sentences.</blockquote>
::So if you're going to stick actions within dialogue, it needs to be...
* A few words long.
* Not a complete sentence.
* Relating to the speaking character.
::In this case, I think the action is a little too long for my tastes. :S I'm fine with both the 'Jump'-being-a-single-line version and KieferSkunk's solution. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Although I've zealously hunted down situations that ''need'' bumping onto new lines, I also agree with anonny's point that we should avoid breaking up the flow as much ''as possible''. I'd like the rule of thumb "If you have to use a full sentence to describe the action, it should get a new line. ''But if you '''can''' describe it in a sentence fragment, do!''" —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Cheat Mashes a lot of buttons. ==

Strong Bad tells The Cheat to "mash go on that blender!". In [[Everybody Knows It]], Homestar tells The Cheat to "mash play on that jambox.". Possible reference? - [[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]] 03:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:We think so, it's already listed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman Training ==

Vector Strong Bad being Stinkoman's training problem was a good idea. I wonder if they will make a game like that?
-zyborg

== Question ==

How could you guys know the name of the email before you even found out what it was?
:We don't. The email's name is released at the same time as the email, so we find out right away. If you can't see it, you need to refresh your cache. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
::If anybody is interested at all, the name of the e-mail was originally grabbed from rando.xml. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::And, since the email menu is generated by reading rando.xml, if you cleared your cache the new email would have been in the list (reading rando.xml directly is simply quicker). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
No no. Listen. Alternate Universe wasn't on the sbemail menu at the time, so how could you guys possibly know what is was?
:As was said, they hack into rando.xml and read it there. If your cache didn't pick up on the new rando.xml version, it would not appear in the menu. But it was added to rando.xml anyway. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::alternate universe *was* in the sbemail menu at the time. If you didn't see it it's because your computer had it cached, and you just needed to clear your cache and it would be there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Text size ==

I've removed
<blockquote>
When all of the Strong Bads are warping in, the bottom half of the text on the Lappy is bigger and darker than the upper half, which is normal.
</blockquote>
from ==Goofs==, because technically it is a Flash artifact – if you zoom in, you'll see that the text is in fact normal. The result has something to do with Flash's [[Wikipedia:Anti-aliasing|anti-aliasing]] engine... I'm not sure exactly what the cause is, probably something to do with the [[Wikipedia:Moiré effect|Moiré effect]], but I'm not sure. Anyways, I'm in two minds about this... on one hand it's clearly a Flash artifact, but on the other it's a noticable glitch when you watch the email normally (no viewing the Flash file, no seek bars, nothing)... I also can't think of a way to word it properly to put it in ==Glitches==... any thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== SENOR CARDGAGE ==

Anyone really know why Senor Cardgage sang "let the children go"?
I find it quite freaky... [[User:Hornet|Cupcake]] 15:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:The same reason Senor Cardgage says anything... because he's a weird, weird, crazy man. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
This may be late but Senor Cardgage's line sounds more to me like "Let the little childrens know", since I cannot hear the G sound and it fits well with the next line "I hope they don't a splode". [[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 03:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Big Nose? No Nose? ==

Stinkoman called Strong Bad "Big Nose" after a practice test in the Strong Bad Zone. What does Stinkoman mean by "Big Nose"? Does Strong Bad have a nose? If so, what is it? Is it his jewel? Is it his silver plate? [[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]
:As it says on the article – "big nose" is an Asian term for westeners. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::From Real-World References:
::<blockquote>Stinkoman calls Strong Bad "big nose", a derogatory term used in eastern Asia to describe Westerners, whose noses tend to be genetically larger than Asians'.</blockquote>
::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Isn't [[Coach Z]] a Westerner? I think on Coach Z's wiki page, it says that he speaks in a Western accent. Strong Bad's english, isn't he?

[[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]

:In this context, "Westerner" refers to people living west of Eastern Asia, that is in the view of the Asians. People of European descent, specifically. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, "Westener" or "Occidental" in the sense of "Western Hemisphere", not "Western America" - usually referring to West Europe, North America (and, strangely, Australia... we seem to break the mould on a lot of these general terms...). As opposed to "Eastener" or "Oriental", usually referring to East Asia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

What I think is it's a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python's_Life_of_Brian Monty Python's Life of Brian], since it's a running gag in the film for characters to call each other big nose. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

== Easter egg #1 ==

you guys shoud add that homestar "backwards" voice look like the voice of homsar...
:Yeah, I see what you mean. It's not quite the kind of thing we put in articles, though. But now at least it's mentioned ''here''! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

==Where doth the Cheat go??==
Where does the Cheat, the stool and the wormhole disappear to? Like, did the Cheat
turn into Sterrance?

{{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 20:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

what probaly happend is when homestar came in the room, the cheat left. homestar on the otherhand, he "turned into" sterrance. as for the stool and portal... who knows.

:The stool was affected early on presumably by the portal, we don't know why. The Cheat likely left when things started getting weird, and Homestar likely was transported out, not changed to Sterrance. That's my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:42, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::The stool is weird... it appears and disappears at various times. Homestar is transported out, as seen by him transporting in to the Coach Z easter egg, The portal unwinds, the same as it appears - if you look closely it just unspirals after Homestar disappears. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Save the last email for Strong Bad... ==

OMG! I loved that song. I don't know why, but I did. I hope they post an MP3 version on the site.

== Outsiders reference you voted down ==

I'm sorry, guys, but in the context Strong Bad used the word "tuff" in, that was a reference to ''The Outsiders.'' I don't care if 25 people voted against it. I'm gonna use the same logic that all you people who tried to use against me in Change of Pace...just because you don't want something to be a reference doesn't mean it is. (Yeah, and vice versa- big deal.) But this was as obvious a reference as there has been in a while. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:But there is overwhelming evidence against you. Think about that, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Well, first off, the reference doesn't make much sense. If he meant "tuff" as in "sharp", why would he come up with "Bulldozer"... last I checked, they aren't very pointy. Secondly, unless "kool" is also used in ''The Outsiders'', it's a bit more of a stretch – why would he intentionally mispell "cool" with no reference to anything, and then intentionally mispell "tough" with a reference to something else? Besides, do a search for "[[Google:tuff|tuff]]" on Google, you'll find [http://www.tuffshed.com/ many] [http://www.tufffemme.com/ examples] [http://www.tuffstuff.net/ of] [http://www.tuffcountry.com/ the] [http://www.tuffboat.com/ word] being used to mean "tough" (btw these examples were all on the first page, and ''all in a row''). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:08, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Another question: how else ''could'' you misspell "tough"? Okay, "tuph" comes to mind, but that's about it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Firstly, I was thinking about the evidence. And regardless, it doesn't change my mind, Qermaq. Kool isn't used in the book, Phlip, but it's the context it was used in that I have my argument with. As far as I'm concerned, the reference was legitimate. That may not hold up with the results of the voting, but it's my opinion and the discussion is closed. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, then your opinion is respectfully noted. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::''{edit conflict}'' And you have every right to do so. I mean, I've disagreed with a ''lot'' of STUFF verdicts. As long as you accept that the result of the vote decides what goes on the page, you can hold whatever opinion you want about references to ''The Outsiders'', Family Guy, what have you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Go vs. Grow? ==

In the closing song, on Senor Cardgage's solo, does anyone else hear him say, "Let the little children '''grow'''" rather than "go?"

:I did hear him say "grow" initially...but I've replayed that line over and over and now I'm sure he's saying "go". -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 19:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::To be honest, I can't make it out at all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:::At first, I heard "roam", but now I hear either "glow"; or "flow". The problem is that none of these possibilites rhyme with "splode". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Not really a problem (songs don't have to rhyme), but it sure would have made it easier to decipher. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Flex it, flex it, shoulder stance... ==

I noticed the blue panel on the bottom of the Strong Badman comics has a line that says "work it out!". Why does that feel like a reference to [[lady fan]]...or at least the part where Homestar is featured in the Buck Webb comic? -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 19:14, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:Doesn't match any dialogue in [[lady fan]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it has to match any dialogue to reference [[lady fan]]. The fact that [[lady fan]] had a section where Homestar was in a comic panel with a speech bubble regarding exercise is enough to be somewhat of a reference. I don't think it's enough for it to be mentioned on the article's main page, but I definitely believe that's where the unseen panel is derived from. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Not the realest Strong Bad? ==

Now, I might be reading too much into the e-mail, but everybody else does, so I'm-a gonna join the party! Anyways, since animated Strong Bad appeared with really true-to-life Strong Bad, are we to believe they're not the same entity? Or maybe Real Bad lives in an alternate universe where everything that ever happened to Flash Bad happened to him. But that's just me supposin' out loud. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:Or maybe that Puppet Strong Bad is a different one than the one in, like, Biz Cas Fri. Who knows? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Of course, if they are both the "real" Strong Bad, it wouldn't be [[pizzaz|the first time we've seen two of him]]. Just thought I'd observe that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait—I just remembered that what Strong Bad is visiting here is ''alternate universes''. In one of them, he's a puppet—''this'' one! (Now, if you want your 4th wall really turned inside out, he should have visited a universe in which he can watch TBC drawing him. And maybe try his hand at it himself.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, there's two of them! (This isn't really contributing much, but I like the quote.) - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Left Handed ==

Based on the way Strong Sad hold his guitar, he might be left handed. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 21:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Say hello to my [[Left Handedness|little friend]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::The [[Left Handedness]] article doesn't discuss the evidence that Strong Sad is right-handed or ambidextrous, which I might take care of later. For now I'll take the opportunity to mention that for an ambidextrous person to choose a left-handed guitar would be pretty weird. They're something of an oddity; even many southpaws opt to learn right-handed technique just because it's more common. So for someone we know can write with his right hand to be seen at one time with a [[Sketchbook#SK-2006-03-02|right-handed guitar]], then suddenly with a left-handed guitar, is difficult to reconcile. But not impossible, of course. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 20:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Strong Sad]]'s article mentions being ambidextrous, as he's also been seen writing with his left hand, and at other times with his right. I think that's as good a place as any for a mention, since it's more a defining trait of his character than something specific to this email. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== Old-timey audience ==

I was just watching this e-mail again, and I noticed in the "vaudeville" scene that while the audience as a whole is a fairly shapeless mass, one distinctive shape rises up from it on the lower left. Is this shape anything significant? (Well, significant enough for a wiki that exists to notice minor details like this...) It looks a bit like [[Mr. Smallow]]'s hat.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Big enough? Knife enough? ===
{{stufffact|The woman on Strong Badman's television is holding a [[Big Knife]].}}
{{stuffverdict|17:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)|23:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|25|5|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Highball pear ===
{{stufffact|The pseudo-backward pronunciation of the word "eyeball" in the Coach Z Easter egg sounds like "highball", which could be a reference to [[radio]] and/or [[space program]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined, 24–0. A proposed revision was also overwhelmingly declined|21|9|alternate universe}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== You look burnt or DEAD ===
{{stufffact|The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].}}
{{stuffverdict|08:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|26|9|alternate universe}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== And they won the game... ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad previously mentioned "real fruit smoothies" in [[mascot]] when the team won the game.}}
{{stuffverdict|07:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|7|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== No problem STUFFing this one ===
{{stufffact|The phrase "No prob, Bob" is frequently used on the show [[Wikipedia:Bob the Builder|Bob the Builder]].}}
{{stuffverdict|04:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|17:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined (patently false)|13|1|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== A tuff STUFF ===
{{stufffact|The use of the word "tuff" may be a reference to the novel ''The Outsiders''. In it, most characters use the word "tuff", meaning "cool" or "sharp".}}
{{stuffverdict|20:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)|17:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|25|2|alternate universe}}

== Dry T-Shirt Contest ==

Maybe when Strong Bad refers to the 'Dig To China With Your Ears Contest' as "the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of", one of the worse contests is the Dry T-Shirt Contest, as featured in [[bottom 10]]. Since this is in Strong Bad's Bottom Ten of everything, you could reason that it would be worse than the other proposed contests. [[User:Aether|Aether]] 11:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:See [[Contests]]. There's a lot of other bad contests out there that Strong Bad could have been referring to, but we kept it to the Ten-Step Footrace from [[flashback]] and the Strongest Man in the World Contest from the [[Original Book]], as those two contests also took place in the storybook universe and were likely the ones he was referring to. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Jumpin the shark ==

I thought that this SBEmail was kind of dumb. Has Homestar jumped the shark? -guest
:Gee, if you didn't like this one, I don't know what to say. I might remind you that you got your money's worth. Many fans have already named this one of their favorites. But a call of "jumping the shark" requires some gimmick to have been employed which is beyond the pale, and I don't see evidence of that. Nothing in this one is any more or less odd than any other email, in my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Dear guest, this page is for discussing changes to the article. Please direct those kinds of comments to our [[Forum:7671|forum]]. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:23, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Last Sbemail? ==

I'm kinda scared that this was the last sbemail of them all...
when it said, "Save the last Email for Strong Bad"...
Does anyone think that this is the last sbemail???

I really hope it isn't!

-[DHO]RABB

:I thougbt that too until today when [[senior prom]] was released.

== The Pit of Despair! Don't even think-- ==

Another of those little things where something in a cartoon reminds me of something, but it wouldn't be a good Fun Fact: On my most recent viewing, the way Homestar clears his throat and resumes talking normally after his backward-talking reminded me of the moment in ''The Princess Bride'' where the albino talks in a stereotypical scary hiss for the beginning of the line (in this subject heading), then clears his throat and continues in an anticlimactic normal voice. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:In the audio commentary on the DVD for that movie, Rob Reiner said that it was inspired a commercial he saw once, where a "native american" was chanting in the steretypical low/raspy voice, then had a cough drop or something and did the same chant in a very bland/white voice. It's a versatile gag, I don't think it should be considered exclusive to TPB. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 05:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Deutschman?!? ==

Has no one yet discovered that upon freezing Strong Bad's fall in the Strong Badman section of the email, and viewing the third pannel he passes, one may discover a shocking vista of The Deutschman, exclaiming "Kinder Uberraschung!!" Thus, I find it very important that The Deutschman be included in the Cast section of this page. Or Deutschman gets his own page or something.

This warrents noting, methinks. Also, the second pannel is a non-exciting "Tadaow!" in a spikey exclamation bubble. Le Boring. —[[User:AlexDitto|AlexDitto]] 22:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:We're [[1 step ahead|one step ahead]] of you, Alex. Though we chose to take it in a bit of a different direction. (Check the Trivia section.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Haha! Blast, how did I miss that? Thanks for directing me in the right direction. *Sigh*... everyone's one step ahead of me... XD —[[User:AlexDitto|AlexDitto]]

==Dangeresque==
Dangeresque never showed up. So why isn't he mentioned as not showing up?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 01:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because we don't mention a lot of the forms that didn't appear. [[Lil' Strong Bad]], for example. There are a ton of forms that didn't appear, and we can't really list them all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Black Lodge? ==

Where did we get that name?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 15:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:It's a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=alternate_universe&diff=next&oldid=301332 Twin Peaks ref], as explained in [[alternate universe#Real-World References]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Striking it Rich ==

The sound effect played when T.H.S.B. says "I struck it rich!" reminds me of, I dunno, something I'd hear in The Windwaker. Anybody else? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 14:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== e-mail or e-mair ==

I listened to the song several times, and it seems that Old-Timey Strong Bad said e-mair (ending with r).

What do you think: e-mail or e-mair?

:Maybe it's his accent or just how he talks? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Fun Fact ==

"This email is 5 minutes & 53 seconds long, and, although this may or may not have been noticed, the Lappy 486's batteries should have ran out after the first five minutes."

There's one flaw in that fact: Look in the background while Strong Bad is talking to Strong Sad, or pretty much any time it's zoomed out. The Lappy is Plugged in, and would therefore not be running off the batteries. Therefore, the battery referrence is moot. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 05:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

== Puppet Soup ==

When I saw the scene of Strong Bad mirroring the motions of his Puppet Stuff counterpart, I immediately was reminded of the classic mirror scene from the Marx Brothers' movie Duck Soup. In said scene, Chico and Harpo noisily shatter a pane of mirrored glass during an espionage mission, and must stand in the empty space and silently mimic Groucho's motions when he comes to investigate. Am I alone in thinking that might be a reference? - 23:23, 29 March 2007
:Two similar characters moving in unison doesn't necessarily make for a reference to anything, even though they're "mirror images" of each other. In the scene you're talking about (as well as a similar happening between Harpo and Lucielle Ball on a classic 1955 episode of I Love Lucy), specifically involved creating an illusion of a mirror where there was none, and at least one character being (temporarily) fooled into thinking that a mirror was there. I really don't think that the puppet segment bears any significant similarity to the Duck Soup scene. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 05:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:pop-up

Uglinessman — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:08:14 GMT

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== Spooky sound effect ==

I've tried a couple times to remove a fact about a "spooky sound effect" coming from [[myths & legends]]; each time it's either been added back or I've been reverted. I assume the effect we're talking about is the one that sounds after Strong Bad says the fridge is a source of unspeakable power; if so, that sound also occurs in [[bottom 10]] and possibly other places. Therefore, I'll remove this item from the page unless someone has a reason why my info is wrong. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: I don't remember it in [[bottom 10]] offhand. Will check when I put my dinner in the oven. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:'''Edit conflict''': Well I'm not sure sure how the best way to resolve this is, because if what you say is true, then the bottom 10 noise is the same as the myths & legends noise (which if my memory serves me right was "noted" to be in the same scale as the Geddup Noise or something strange like that). It should be somewhere in the [[Sound Effects]] page for sure. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:: It is ''not'' the same sound as in [[bottom 10]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Second that. You are thinking of the sound that occurs when strong bad sees the 'creepy painting'; it's lower and has a constant pitch, rather than the myths & legends sound effect, which starts at a higher note and goes to a lower note. It's the only appearance of that sound, so I think the reference should stand. By the way, is that sound anything else when sped up? {{User:Eman/sig}}
:::::Are the two sounds ''really'' that different? Yes, one has an additional note, but surely that doesn't make it a completely different sound effect. Oh, and I have absolute pitch and can tell you that the one in bottom 10 most certainly does is not a lower pitch. They are both a C. Anyway, it's not a huge deal, but I really think this is the sort of thing that should only be noted on the Sound Effects page. Anyone else agree? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Now that I actually listened to bottom 10, I'm going with Heimstern. They sound the same to me, and even if they're not exactly the same, they are close eough to be noted somewheres. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did you really ask if two things being different really makes them different? They're clearly not the same sound effect. The pop-up sound is the same as in myths and legends; the bottom 10 sound is a pulsing single pitch that is different from all notes in the pop-up/legends effect. --Sarducci
:::::::I disagree. The sounds in both emails are almost identical - the sound in bottom 10 is equivalent to the sound in myths & legends played just after the first note. If you want, I can put the two sounds side by side and overlapped in an OGG file to help prove this. The quality of the sounds may be a little different between the two emails, but the instrument used to make both of them is the same. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

:First of all, I'll "chime" in and assert that this is, in fact, the same sound effect as the one that was overused in [[myths & legends]], but this time it is played at a slower rate. It is nothing like the sound used in [[bottom 10]] when Strong Bad slowly slides open the closet to reveal the horrible painting. (Heimstern, that is the sound you meant, right?) That sound was simply a rumble with no articulation. This one has distinct wooden strikes and reverb. However, there is an edit comment by [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] implying that this would be appropriate only for the [[Sound Effects]] page (where it is already noted), since it is a "re-use" rather than a "reference". Can someone second that protocol and convince us that this is not a reference? (Not that I particularly think it is. Just playing devil's advocate.) --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 20:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I agree completely that this is a reuse, not a reference. I was about to post that when you beat me to it, The Nicest Guy. By the way, try listening a little more carefully to the bottom 10 sound; I hear all those "wooden strikes" in that sound too (I'm assuming you're talking about that faint, loosely cowbell-like sound?). <strike>At any rate, it's currently off the page and documented on sound effects, which is exactly right, IMO, so I guess it's all taken care of now.</strike> {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I was wrong; it is still there. I'm going to STUFF if it later if no one removes or STUFFs it first. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Just for reference: [[Media:Spooky sfx.ogg|Listen to both "Spooky Musics".]] The first one is from this email (and was overused in [[myths & legends]]), and the second one is from [[bottom 10]]. The sound in bottom 10 becomes kinda indistinct because there's also the sound of the sliding/rolling door overlaid on the "spooky music". But listen closely - you'll hear the same harmonics and wood tones in both sounds - the bottom 10 version is missing the first note hit that m&l and pop-up have. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: Even so, it's already been removed from the page ''and'' we can all agree that the first note is not heard in [[bottom 10]], meaning that it's not exactly the same. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: Well, okay, it's not been removed. Or if it was, it was re-added. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I removed it and put in a comment to horpfully prevent people from re-adding it again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Hopefully this solves our problem. And yes, I do and did realise that there's an additional note in the pop-up sound effect. I realised after my last post that I'm thinking about these sound effects the way a music theorist would, which is not necessarily the most useful thinking for sound effects. ("They have the same Schenkerian structure, right?") To anyone who understood that, you have my deepest sympathy. ;-) All to say that I now understand why they are being understood as two different sound effects, despite their similarity. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

:I ''seriously'' think it should be mentioned on the page. Come on, think about it seriously: the only other time the sound has been used is in the email ''directly previous'' to this email. Both uses times it refers to something mysterious. That's pretty obviously the point of the gag. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 15:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== cheat talk ==
i know that it has been decided to not try to 'translate' the cheat talk for the transcript. however, i believe the top of the discussion page could be reserved for such speculative things as this, as well as narrowly outvoted or slightly dodgy STUFFs'es. cause it really sounds to me that the cheat says "yeah man" or "yes sir" when strong bad tells him to go win a car. also, sry for bumping the top topic, move this if you want, but i thought it was important. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Gags Galore ==

Wow... This is, like... A cornucopia of running gags. How many pages are we gonna have to update? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Let's see... BMW Lighter, Kicking The Cheat, "How do you type with Boxing Gloves On?", Strong Bad hurting Strong Sad, Gavin, DELETED, the goofy book based on the author's name/city... Any others? -[[User:YK|YK]] 01:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Whatsit made an appearance, as did post-it notes... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't a-forget, a-Holy Crap! -[[User:YK|YK]] 01:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yay, for Gavin! Hey, the lights in the top of the celing...weren't they mentioned in [[other days]]? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::Don't forget the [[Floppy Disk Container]]. No matter, I'm on it. (id tag of [[Floppy Disk Container#codename iceman]] is set up for whenever somebody wants to link it via Fun Facts) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Bev Sportsinterviews, The Cheat's Keyboard, Strong Bad has a green tongue, one of the SBs looks like [[Super Brave!!]] style... I was just going to say the same thing. Don't you all love the cornucopia-reference types? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm surprised there was no reference to [[Pie|pie]] in this e-mail. It's been referenced in, what... the last four e-mails? -[[User:YK|YK]] 01:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::We can use this as a checklist, if necessary. Once you've added pop-up to the gag's page, you can check it off here, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::::I added the [[BMW Lighter]] sighting to its page. How do I check it off? -[[User:YK|YK]] 02:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Also, the end of SS's nagging. Also, the first SB has Sharpie abs. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::::::should cold ones be added? or is that ubiquitous?{{User:Csours/sig}} 04:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

===Checklist===
{{done}} [[BMW Lighter]] 
{{done}} [[Whatsit]] 
{{done}} [[Gavin]] 
{{done}} [[Kicking The Cheat]] 
{{done}} [[Sticky Notes]] 
{{done}} [[The Cheat's keyboard]] 
{{done}} [[Crap]] 
{{done}} [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] 
{{done}} [[DELETED]] 
{{done}} [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]] 
{{done}} [[Floppy Disk Container]] 
{{done}} [[Ab Abber 2000]] 
{{done}} [[Cold Ones]] 
How's this? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I added the Ab Abber 2000, for the "ab tab" Sharpie. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Whatsit added. -[[User:YK|YK]] 02:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Meh, I think the checklist is doubling our efforts. We'll get 'em all without it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Done! For now. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}\
:::::That was easy. =P -[[User:YK|YK]] 02:27, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Mmmm, there's some gags that have been done that are not on that list, and there may be some gags not on that list that haven't been done. Who knows? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget [[Cold Ones]]. I link it on the Cold Ones page, but not on pop-up's page. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cold ones added --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 08:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Name ==

Hey, I decided to move this page to [[pop-up book]] (with a description) before everyone and their brother decided to edit it, but Bazooka Joe moved it back without any edit desc. So, [[pop-up]], or [[pop-up book]]? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:"pop-up" is the official name on the email menu. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

::Uh, no it's not. It's not even on the email menu yet. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::Yes it is. Try clearing your cache, Kookykman. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Hm...multiple cache clearings, and it's not showing up for me. o_0 - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::::That's weird ... it ''is'' showing up for me, and on the first try, too. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::EDIT: Forget it. This Firefox cache works in strange ways. =P - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
It's there for me as pop-up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Frozen! ==

Help! The email stops when turning the page after the "almost naked angels"! Some of the words on the Tandy are visible. The weird thing is that, when trying to foward through the frames it still does nothing. What should I do?!?

:what version of flash are you using, what is your computer speed, what os and browser are you using, what kind of connection are you one? i hate it when people ask vague questions like this... not that i hate the people, just the questions... {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. It seems to be working now. Sorry about the vagueness. By the way, version eight.

==Senor Who?==

Who is that Senor Woodweno on the kick The Cheat Page of the pop-up book? Have we seen him before? I've searched the wiki, but nothing else on him came up. {{User:Homsarhair/sig}} 03:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: Never been named before, but he's in an Easter egg in [[lackey]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ah! That's where he's from. That's been bugging me for the past 20 minutes, I thought he was on a board game or something. Thanks! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Heck, I wouldn't have known it if it wasn't already on the [[pop-up|article]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Does he need his own character page now, or is there not enough information. I'm new, and not sure. {{User:Homsarhair/sig}} 03:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::We don't even know the proper spelling of his name, actually. "Woodweno" was my best guess. I don't think he's yet deserving of a page, personally, but others may disagree. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::If he does need a page, I'd be happy to try and create it. I've never created a page before and I would like to try.{{User:Homsarhair/sig}} 03:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:"Muy bueno", perhaps? --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 03:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I was just about to suggest that myself... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I was positive is was Muy Bueno. That whole page is rather Mexican. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: It makes sense, but I'm not exactly hearing "Muy Bueno" (cue everyone and their brother insisting that it's "Muy Bueno" now... though I have no attachment to "Woodweno" at all.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I think I saw him in an DVD bonus thing, I think it was the sketchbook? Yeah, because they were talking about barely Strong Bad's. Can anyone check if this is true? I would, but I'm going to bed. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 05:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Going to bed? At 9:00?! (I ''love'' Pacific time!!!) Anyway, no such character is seen in the [[Sketchbook (video)|Sketchbook video]]. It's already been stated that he appeared in [[lackey]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== beer labels ==
what are all of the labels on the beer bottle:
*cold one
*not a cold one
*?
*?
{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:#Cold One
:#Not So Cold One
:#Warm One
:#Room Temp-A-Ture One
:All from [[property of ones]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== seat flap ==

am i completely off base here, or does anyone else remember pajamas that have a flap in the back to use when going in an outhouse? {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:06, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: It's not that we think the object in question doesn't exist, it's that we think it has no connection to the "crap flap" in this email. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:: 'k {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Whatsit? ==

This isn't the first time they've used "crap" to refer to "whatsit", is it? When have they done that before?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:14, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Why don't you check out [[Crap|this page]] for the answer? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: And the answer is [[your friends|no]], anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Negative Zero?==
it seems to me that the negative zero is not a refrence to stinkoman but to the idea of the temperature being below zero, or that there's no such thing as positive or negative when it comes to zero.
: I don't really get what you're saying. There was a "Level -0" in Stinkoman, and, as you say, there's ''not'' such a thing as a negative zero. I think it's a valid reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Also, there is a brand of refrigerators called subzero that is extremely popular with yuppies and other similar people who spend way too much on their houses.
:See the article on wikipedia" [[wikipedia:-0|-0]] [[User:207.7.187.135|207.7.187.135]] 01:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
::While the concept exists, I think -0 is far too esoteric to be a likely candidate for a reference in H*R. Counterarguments are encouraged. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

== [[car]] no longer true? ==

Since The Cheat ''did'' end up winning Strong Bad a car, would that mean that car is now, for the most part, no longer correct? Or is this just more proof that any idea I have after about midnight is most likely wrong and best left unmentioned? (I'm referring to a few from around Christmas break.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Who knows if it was a car key? It didn't specifically say, did it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, Strong Bad ''did'' tell Teh C. to win him a car... {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::It's true that he would have a car ''now'', but it was still true when [[car]] came out. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::The whole question of cars in Free Country is a bit ambiguous to say the least. We've seen Strong Bad in the Gremin in Dangeresque (A gremlin which was seemingly originally made up by Bubs I might add), yet Strong Bad says he doesn't own a car. I think the whole question of cars in Free Country USA is yet to be fully answered. If there was a simple answer, Bubs owned the Gremlin, incorperated it into his Halloween tale, loaned it to Strong Bad while making his movie, and ultimately lost it to his lackey today in a high stakes game of dominoes. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:37, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== The Magic Eye image ==

Google finds a couple of matching images if you search for "Magic Eye Saturn", however the one at [http://www.alienintelligencer.com/2004/08/magic-eye.html this blog] is the only one that is the same resolution as the one I pulled from the swf. I downloaded it, and it is bit-for-bit identical to the one in the toon - thus either TBC got it from this site, or they both got it (indirectly) from the same location elsewhere (from a site either not listed on Google Images or that doesn't call it "Saturn"). If it's the former, it begs the question: What were TBC doing on an alien conspiracy site? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:34, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Searching for "Stereogram Saturn" finds [http://www.jespersdesigns.com/visitmywebsite/stereograms.htm this] also, but though it's the same resolution, it's not bit-for-bit the same. So while it's the same picture, TBC didn't get it from here. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Found a third version, on the [http://www.vision3d.com/sghidden/saturn.html official Magic Eye site], still not the same image that TBC used, but it tells me what book all three of these were scanned from, which is what I embarked on this to discover. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That 3-D picture does not look like Saturn, at all. It must be a made-up, "spacey" picture. Saturn's rings have more breadth and do not come as close to the planet. I have changed the note on the article to say, "a ringed planet" rather than "Saturn". {{User:Eman/sig}}
::::Thing is, from what I can tell from the official site, it's actually called "Saturn" in the book (the filename is <code>saturn.html</code> and it says "Saturn" in the title). Hence why I made it say Saturn in the fact. I know it doesn't look exactly like Saturn, but that's what it's supposed to be, not just some random ringéd planet. Of course it is a made-up picture, I know of very few actual stereosopic pictures of the planets, but that doesn't make it any less worthy to be called Saturn, than for example [http://gw.marketingden.com/planets/saturn.html this] is... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Charibs ==

Charibs seem to be the thing this week for internet culture. Penny arcade have a couple flying babies in relatively the same position. XD

Don't you love it when there are set trends on the internet XD[[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 08:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

: Don't you mean 'cherubs?' I think that's how they're supposed to be spelt. --[[User:Zimmy|Zimmy]] 11:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Singular ''cherub'', plural ''cherubim'' or ''cherubs'', depending on which sense is meant. The traditional biblical or medieval angels would be properly called ''cherubim'', while the more modern baby angel representations that are actually based on classical depictions of Eros/Cupid would be ''cherubs''. No, no need to thank me. Just doing my job. Er... Just avoiding doing my job. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Some this might interest: the word ''cherub'' derives from Hebrew (kruv - The letter Kaf can be ch or k and the letter Beit can be b or v). The plural ''cherubim'' (kruvim) is with the Hebrew suffix for more then one male. Each word in Hebrew can be either male or female with defferent plural suffixes for each. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== 2 Saws ==

Is it just me, or are the two saws sticking out of the Homestar Runner a reference to [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0432348/ "Saw 2"]? -- Leak

:It's you. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Well, which is it? ==

“The label "Negative Zero" on the fridge is likely a reference to the [[http://www.subzero.com Subzero]] brand of refrigerator.” Or “The label "Negative Zero" on the fridge may be a reference to [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|level -0]] in [[Stinkoman 20X6]].” They can't both be referenced, can they? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:Sure they can. I think it's perfectly plausible that [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] would sieze the opportunity to parody an existing brand name and make an in-joke at the same time. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 20:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, I realize that, but... one has "likely" (a no-no word) and the other has "may be" (another no-no word). --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:::If you want to edit the language to match, or pick one place to merge both references (probably a controversial choice), go right ahead. But I'm pretty firmly against the idea that "likely" and "may be" are automatically no-no words for references. (Yes, I realize the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] page does say something to that effect.) Just because we can't absolutely guarantee that what looks like a reference is not just an amusing coincidence is no reason not to mention it as "likely", "may be", "possible", etc., with links to the information to allow the reader to make up their own mind. But I would hesitate to pass either of these off as definite intentional references, because I'm neither a Chapman nor a mind-reader. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Senor or Señor? ==

I'm not hearing the "ñ" in "Señor" Whatshisface. It sounds to me like he's saying "Senor" the same way he says "Senor Cardgage". Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:My thought is that you're right on the money, and that makes this worthy of its own page in the Running Gags Category. (What to call that page is debatable, since there is already a [[Senor]] which redirects to [[Señor]], the obsolete storybook character.) I don't have time to do it myself right now, so if someone wants to beat me to it, knock yourself out. It should also be included on the [[Foreign words]] page. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I disagree that "Senor" needs its own running gag page. It's not all that notable that the characters mispronounce "Señor". Also, resolving "Senor" and "Señor" disambiguation would be kinda difficult. I think we should leave it at notes on Foreign Words and [[Strong Bad's Spelling]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I still think it's a Running Gag. Look at the evolution from Strong Bad's mispronunciation and misspelling, to the "adoption" of that standard in [[Senor Mortgage]] and others, to the genesis of [[Senorial Day]] (an in-joke making fun of an in-joke), to the exporting of the trend to a completely different character. The mispronunciation is made particularly notable by the fact that Strong Sad originally pronounced Cardgage's name as "Señor", and Strong Bad himself correctly pronounced [[Señor]] in [[origins]]. But I'm too lazy to work out the difficulties of creating the new page, so I just wrote an essay on the [[Foreign words]] page. My fact checking was not exhaustive, so I invite one and all to verify it. As long as I never have to type &ntilde; again. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:33, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Haven't had a chance to read your essay yet, but I'm thinking it through now, and here's how I think the disambig could work:

:'''Senor''': ''This article is about the misuse of a Spanish word. For the original storybook character, see [[Señor]]. For the mortgage broker/salesman, see [[Senor Cardgage]].''
:'''Señor''': ''This article is about the original storybook character. For the mortgage broker/salesman, see [[Senor Cardgage]]. For the running gag on the misuse of a Spanish word, see [[Senor]].''
:'''Senor Cardgage''': ''This article is about the mortgage broker/salesman. For the original storybook character, see [[Señor]]. For the running gag on the misuse of a Spanish word, see [[Senor]].''

This would resolve the redirects, methinks. What do you think? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:Decided to go ahead and create the article. Go check it out: [[Senor]] :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks, Kiefer. You've made me happy. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 20:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::No probalo! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:48, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Gold Circle Award ==

I removed a Fact that the Gold Circle Award is a real award given to trade publications for two reasons: No reference was given, and there seem to be a number of real life awards with this name. Most are very obscure, with the possible exception of the one for student journalists. Anyway, none of them have any reasonably direct relevance to the toon, and my point is just to remind people to include links to reference material whenever it exists. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:57, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:also its on a young person's book, making more likely that it is something like a caldecott award {{User:Csours/sig}} 21:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Ceiling? ==

The trivia about it being the first time we see a ceiling is incorrect. In [[Strong_Mad]]'s character video, we see the ceiling of the basement. It's the first time we see the Computer room's ceiling, but a ceiling in general? Hardly. --[[User:Musachan|Musachan]] 18:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)Musachan
:Read the Fact again. The basement is not on the same level as the Computer Room, which is why it's worded the way it is. If you think the wording doesn't work, edit it; if you think it's not noteworthy, STUFF it. (For what it's worth, I don't think it's terribly noteworthy myself, as long as the Inside Reference to [[different town]] is present.) But if the basement is the only ceiling we've seen so far, the Fact is technically correct as written. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Chicken Foot ==

How exactly can you tell that they are playing "Chicken Foot" - the WP link didn't exactly give any hints as to how you'd tell... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:46, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, closer reading of the WP page reveals "No other plays can be made until all four sides of the double [which is the first domino played] are filled." The only domino on the table is the double 3, which definatly does not have all 4 sides filled. Since this is pretty much the only distinguishing feature of Chicken Foot AFAICT, the fact is wrong. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pop-Up Book ==
Too bad there's no Easter Egg where ''you'' get to use the pop-up book... <:-{
:That would truly rock. Who knows, they might release it as a short, in a week or two. That would be awsome though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::It would be even cooler if they sold the pop-up book in the store {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}
:::That would be a challenge, since many of the features would be impossible to make with actual paper... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::What makes you say that? I've seen some pretty complex pop-up books. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ever see one that could make burgers appear out of thin air? ''{spooky music plays}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, okay, you've got a point there. :) But you could get a cockroach to crawl around in the book without too much trouble. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pages ==

Can we agree that when SB refers to the 1st page, he'sactually referring to pp 2-3; 2, 4-5; 3, 6-7; etc? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:I think you're right, Qermaq. I actually meant to get rid of the reference you're talking about myself; I didn't revert far enough back that last time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:08, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Fryer and Fryer ===
{{stufffact|On the last page of the pop-up book, the "Fat Fryer" may be a reference to the "Fat Friar", a ghost in Harry Potter.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)|14:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|12|1|pop-up}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== False-etto? ===
{{stufffact|The cherubs speak in Strong Bad's Teen Girl Squad voice.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)|14:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|22|0|pop-up}}

== Jumping ability ==

The second time we've seen Strong Bad's jumping ability? What about in Lady-ing, or whatever it's called? [[User:67.78.136.222|67.78.136.222]] 09:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Good kid ==
This is probably a huge stretch, but based on what we've seen, Strong Bad being a "good kid" is the exact opposite of a "bad guy", which Strong Bad is so-called. As seen in several 20X6 things, being a kid is the opposite of being the guy. Therefore, good kid = bad guy. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

== key remark ==

:*In the Easter egg, it is implied that Bubs is handing over the key to a car. However, the key more strongly resembles a house key, notably in the shape of the head and the fact that it is cut on only one side, a rarity in car keys.

It might just be because I'm an old fart, but I've seen plenty of car keys that are the same style as house keys. Of course, I'm only one person, and I'm not exactly an auto enthusiast, so I'll leave it up to someone else to decide if this should perhaps be edited to say that most ''modern'' car keys don't look like that... or... something. - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 16:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I'm an old fart too, and up until about 2004 was driving a car with a key cut only on one side (actually there were three such in my family's use). So the reduction in the certainty of the fact, I think, also reduces its noteworthiness. Is it really necessary to say that this car appears to have been made before the late 90s? If they are (as has been conjectured) the keys to the [[Gremlin]], then of course it was! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== A real pop-up book? ==

I'm surprised nobody made a real pop-up book like that and submitted it as fan art. I mean they probably would have shown it already if they received a picture of one, right? {{User:Steve/sig}} 19:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC) (My sig is broken right now, sorry)

:Like people mentioned once, it's impossible to make this book. Some of the flaps over-ride eachother. I also fixed the sig. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

== "I'm gonna" or "I'm-a" ==

In the line "I'm gonna go eat my burgers", I do hear "I'm gonna", not "I'm-a"... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 20:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:I've listened to it some more times now, and I finally agree. It '''is''' very faint, though. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, I listened to it a bunch more, and now it sounds like "I'm-a"... I can hear it either way if I try... I just dunno anymore. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 20:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm quite convinced now that it is "gonna go". Anyway, I suggest that we stick to what he types if we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Agreed. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I easily hear "I'm gonna go eat." So, I say we take the note out of the xscript. It would be pretty non-notable anyway even if he did say "I'ma." —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:senior prom

Uglinessman — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:05:01 GMT

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== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

:::::::Marzipan <> almond paste. Almond paste is just almonds ground with sugar and corn syrup, but isn't cooked. Marzipan is a type of candy that usually contains almond paste plus more sugar, and it's cooked until it reaches the "firm ball" stage (244 F). The cooking gives it a smoother texture, almost like fondant. But I'd still guess that the "almond paste" bit was meant as a reference to Marzipan. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
The Poop Smith was sooo hiding it was him -im too lazy to login

I don't really see what the big deal is. The Poopsmith has the ability to speak, he just chooses not to; he's taken a vow of silence. This is probably why he tries to look like he didn't say anything. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
How could anyone be offended by the way Copperfield is pronounced?
:1. You just resurrected a discussion from about a year ago. 
:2. The way "Copperfield" is pronounced made it sound like "Cop a feel." Which means, in essence "Making a grab for someone's privates." Get it now? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

::Brilliantly said!

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)
:::YES! I'll get that announcer that intteruppted it if it's the last thing I doooooooooooo!!!!

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:Aw, come ON! You know that [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|''that'']] was a glitch and you...know...it. Now I'm'a gonna a-go gets a-a peanut-a-butter-a-sandwhitch. -Alex H. {{unsigned|68.248.144.179|12:12, 24 May 2006}}

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, but you forgot Soverjouiner! It's on Mars too!

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Can we stop the edit war and discuss captions here? Thanks so much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please, let's do so. Now, the person who has been removing the quote has argued that it shouldn't be there because Marzipan, who says the quote, is not in the picture. I don't find this argument convincing. I don't think a quote has to line up ''exactly'' with the image as long as its connection with the image is clear. And here, I think the connection is indeed clear: what happens in the image ''is'' what happens every year. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::Well, Mr. Läufer, it DOESN'T happen every year, because some schools (my alma mater included) don't have prom kings and queens. The connection with the image wasn't clear, IMO, at all. Therefore, it didn't fit. (And I didn't find your grammar police edits to be convincing enough, yet you made them anyway, although a lot of them were unnecessary.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::All right, ISlayedTheKerrek, this is not the place for you to be discussing your grievances with my editing. Concerning the issue at hand: I still think the connection between image and caption is in fact clear enough, and, as two people have reverted to this caption, I suggest that it should stay this way. Unless others object, I would say that consensus favors the "Every freakin' year" caption. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Peep: worth a fun fact? ==

I noticed the inclusion of "summat" as a real-world reference, which made me wonder if including a similar item for the rap term [http://www.rapdict.org/Peep peep] was worth one as well, esp. since TBC use a lot of hip-hop lingo. Is it too widely known? | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Spelling of imaginary girlfriend ==

"* In this email, Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad's Ladies|imaginary girlfriend's]] name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-05-04|Quote of the Week]], it was spelled "Delelilia"."

Uhh, isn't the QotW an outtake? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 06:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*I STUFF'd it, since I got no response here. <homestarrunner> Boo. </homestarrunner> :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Promstar Talker ==

The part about Pom-Pom and Strong Bad getting voted Prom King and Queen reminds me of the Homestar Talker -- "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad are totally going out"
:Although they never specifically say what they're going out to do. Maybe they're just going to the 7-11 for a quart of milk...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== What! No Undawares! ==
Is it just me or does the comment about strong bad saying that he doesn't wear underwear useless? I mean, if I were to make everyone's pants (including my own) disappear, I would definately wear something underneath. It's just common sense... {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 22:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad obviously didn't think this thing through very well. He was going to mass-pants everyone, but presumably anyone wanting to do such a thing (and who has half a brain) would either make it so their own pants weren't affected, or he wouldn't wear pants in the first place. But Strong Bad isn't known to think very far ahead when it comes to practical jokes and pranks, and obviously his mass-pantsing backfired in a way he didn't expect. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yeah! ==
That low-pitched "Oh yeah!" that the Poopsmith shouts sort of reminds me of that stupid Yello song of the same name. It's associated with a high school movie (Ferris Bueller's Day Off) so it would sort of fit with the e-mail's prom theme. Do you think it might count as a real world reference?[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 23:56, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. Yello's "Oh Yeah!" is very different in pitch, and the style of the "Oh yeah!" in this toon is very common to the kind of music they used here. The band seems to be much more a reference to Back to the Future than Ferris Bueller, and there is already a ref up to BTTF. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Koo koo ka choo... but not ==

''I Am the Walrus'' by the Beatles clearly says "Goo goo ga joob." "Koo koo ka choo" is from ''Mrs. Robinson'' by Simon and Garfunkel, released a month later (coincidence? Not likely). So that's why it says "or summat." By the way, the only other place I've ever heard the word "summat" is when Hagrid from Harry Potter says it. Is it a British slang word? If so, that's probably a reference to The Beatles. Did it possibly originate in Liverpool? If so, that's an unmistakable allusion. [[User:Uh...Cwapface|Uh...Cwapface]] 03:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's a British slang word. I see it pretty often. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:First of all, the phrases "goo goo ga joob" and "koo koo ka choo" are both total nonsense. Since neither of them contain any actual words, the debate of which one of the two was "actually" said in the Beatles song is almost a moot point, unless someone can provide a scan of the lyrics sheet of a Beatles' album liner notes, or some other reliable source (99% of all lyrics websites on the 'net are user generated and ''not'' reliable soures). Also keep in mind that the song is mixed oddly, and there's an intentional distortion to it that sort of mimmicks poor sound quality. As such, sublte differences between k's and g's can easily be lost.
:Second, even if there's some definitive way to "prove" which nonsense phrase was said in the Beatles song, I don't think it qualifies as a [[Wikipedia:Mondegreen|mondegreen]]. A real mondegreen is when words are mis-heard as other words, such as cross I bear/cross-eyed bear from "You Oughta Know". In other words, the meaning is changed, usually resulting in humorous misunderstandings. The difference between "goo" and "koo" in this context is irrelevant, since they both mean the same thing (nothing). It's like if two different people transcribed Ella Fitzgerald scatting from an old 78, and then they debated over wether then 14th syllable was "tweeeee" or "dreeeee".
:I'll leave it to someone else to edit, since I'm not always good at rephrasing stuff, but I hope that someone can resolve this one way or the other. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 19:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

== Very UNpopular cartoon show ==
The quick voiceover sounds like "The King of Town's Very Unpopular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week" rather than "The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week".
Of course because it is so fast one could easily get it wrong. --[[:Xifihas|Xifihas:]]
:Well, we say it's "own", since that matches the text that appears. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yes but the KOT is a very UNpopular character. --[[:Xifihas|Xifihas:]]
:::I think this is intentionally ambiguous so that people can draw their own conclusions. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Where Plan? ==
Strong Bad never told us where he'll poof the pants to? You can guess!

:I'm wondering if the pants poofing is a reference to 80's teen movies like Screwballs where a group of nerds crash a prom to use a clothes removal device on the prom queen and anyone else in the vicinity.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
===Coppafeel?===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's admonition to "watch those hands, David Coppafeel" is a reference to "copping a feel", which means to "surreptitiously fondle someone in a sexual manner".}}
{{stuffverdict|02:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)|20:25, 27 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|8|senior prom}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Strong Bad and Delilah ===
{{stufffact|In this email, Strong Bad's imaginary girlfriend's name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following Quote of the Week, it was spelled "Delelilia".}}
{{stuffverdict|02:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)|23:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhemingly accepted|18|3|senior prom}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== It might be a common phrase, see? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's remark, "It's a mass pantsing, see?" is an example of stereotypical "mobster speech", which was popularized by [[Wikipedia:Edward G. Robinson|Edward G. Robinson]] in the movie [[Wikipedia:Little Caesar|Little Caesar]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|23:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|15|1|senior prom}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Are you guys having a killer time? ===
{{stufffact|"Strong Sad and Deborah" may be a reference to Napoleon Dynamite, in which Deborah is a main character who goes to a dance.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)|02:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|senior prom}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Save the last dance for me... again ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)|02:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|24|7|senior prom}}

== Will and Grace and John and Lyle ==

This fact was added to the page:
<blockquote>
The phrase "David Coppafeel" was used in an episode of [[Wikipedia:Will and Grace|Will and Grace]] guest starring John Cleese as Lyle Finster. The line was said by Karen Walker (Megan Mullally).
</blockquote>
So I did a little search and found out that John Cleese played as Lyle in [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000092/filmoseries#tt0157246 several episodes], all of them in 2003-04. The toon was released in 2006. A reference or coincidence? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, after a bit more research i also found the episode: [http://www.durfee.net/will/scripts/s0611.htm The Accidental Tsuris]. The line is spoken just at the beggining of the episode, and as far as I can tell there's no proms and blackouts involved. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

== Listerine ==

I'm not sure if this should go within the email's transcript, or under a different heading, but I thought I'd point out that the reason Homestar bends over and kicks his foot backwards (and has his cheeks puffed out) during Strong Bad's acceptance speech is because he still has the Listerine in his mouth, and his mouth is going all tingley. I noticed that the transcript just mentions the bending and kicking. Is the joke obvious enough that it doesn't need to be included here, or does anyone think it should be added? [[User:Shanked battleship|Shanked battleship]] 18:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Fact Removal ==

Removed "Coach Z's tie bending upwards in the scene where he spikes the punch is a reference to Dilbert, the main character of a popular comic strip by Scott Adams. His tie always curved upwards in the same fashion", because Coach Z's false shirt-front is not a tie, nor is its rigidity a Dilbert reference. --[[User:Proxtown|Proxtown]] 01:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== The redirects ==

In my opinion, the redirects for [[The King of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]], [[The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show]], [[The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon]], and [[The King Of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]] are better suited to [[KOT's VOQPCS!]] so I have taked the liberty of changing them. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 19:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:space program

Uglinessman — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:03:20 GMT

Uglinessman: general format crappiness

==Email Freeze==
Well, thank goodness for the wiki, 'cause I never would have known what happened at the end of the email. For me, the email froze after Homestar Runner says, "I knew I should've asked the Italian space program!"
[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]], 20:56, 14 November 2005 (CST)
:Happens to me sometimes. When it doesn't completely download before it starts playing and doesn't finish dling by the time it reaches a certain point. Usually you can wait it out, but it's probably best to just reload. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 18:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'll give it a shot, and let you know if it works. But, mind you, this happens EVERY SINGLE TIME in the email [[website]] (it freezes when Strong Bad gets up to work on his website). -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]]
:::Sigh... Well, I guess I'll never be able to see the rest of this email...
By the way, shouldn't the fact that there is no beep between the video game slide and the THREE O' DEMS slide be a remark, or possibly a goof? (I already changed this, but feel free to revert it if you want to.) -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]]

== Bad ==
Guys, I think this e-mail was kind of bad. I mean I know they only had so much time from one Monday to another, but I didn't laugh that much. {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 13:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:There's the forum thread for talk like this. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:12, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

== Bad Edit ==
VolatileChemical, what was the deal with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=space_program&diff=198974&oldid=198972 this edit]? Why'd you delete all of my transcript with your own (less complete) version? The diff on the edit conflict page is there for a reason. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:27, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wait, never mind, I made a few gaffes of my own with your stuff... I think we got it all in there together though. It seems the new edit conflict detector is more tolerant than I thought... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

== Doo/Due ==
In Coach Z's answer in the easteregg, should we write "Doo" instead of "Due", as that is most likely what the Coach means, or should we keep it the way it is? [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 15:48, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:Agreed and changed. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== SB's Rank ==
Any ideas on what Strong Bad's rank stands for in this one? LTNRL? LieuTenant NaTuRal? LieuTeNant in Real Life? Like, Totally Not Right, Left? What? {{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}}
:How about "'''L'''ieu'''t'''e'''n'''e'''r'''a'''l'''," like the toon says? - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

::Ah. Didn't hear that when I watched it, missed reading it in the transcript. Sorry, and thanks for the info. {{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}}

== No Open Mic Night? ==
I know it sounds random, but I was hoping for an Open Mic Night at Mission Control, just like in [[Puppet Jam: Mission Control]] with [[They Might Be Giants]]. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:I agree - it would have been a nice inside reference. Perhaps a good theme song? (Actually, can anyone verify if there are any recognizeable themes in the background music during the slide show?) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::Done! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Awww... I really like the Puppet Jams... ''{shrugs}'' It woulda made an awesome themesong. [[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]

== Possible references for the video game ==

I was just thinking about the video game pictured in the SBASAF Slide Show, and wondering if it was a reference to any game in particular. Here's what I'm thinking:

* Obviously, it appears to be a fighting game, so it parodies the genre as a whole. It's not specific enough to be a reference to any particular game.
** The title "Food Fight" comes to mind...
* A bit of a stretch, but there could also be a vague reference to Burgertime in there.

Just blabbering. Don't mind me. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:55, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno about any references, but the ghost bears a slight resemblance to the [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::No, I'm pretty sure both ghosts just resemble basic "sheet" ghosts. Not each other. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
:::But TBC are notorious for references like that. And I think the background looks like a better rendering of the Atari Main Page. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::::Yeah, I think that there is a definate reswmblance there, like it is an Atari 2600 version of the Bad Graphics Ghost, kinda like the Atari 2600 version of duck pond. --
[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]]

== Anselmo? ==

I know Strong Bad seems like a Pantera fan, but we don't know that Anselmo refers to Phil. Could be a city in Nebraska, or Anselmo Baggio, or Anselmo Lorenzo, or San Anselmo California, or just a sweet Spanish sounding name Strong Bad picked.

He's more of a Limozeen fan. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 21:54, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Wait... what were we talking about? I'm confused.

The fun fact that claims '"The Proud Anselmo" is named for Phil Anselmo.'

:See [[Template:STUFF/space program|STUFF]] - we're voting on this being a reference to Rene Anselmo, who helped start the commercial satellite industry. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:00, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

:: (PS: Sign your posts!)

::: Maybe it's both a Pantera and a satellite industry reference? The tendency on this wiki is to narrow down references to single instances. TBC are not that unidimensional.[[User:Vl-tone|Vl-tone]] 08:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Just for posterity, I'm noting here that this has been pretty much resolved by the point of [[cliffhangers]], which contains references to Yngwie Malmsteen, "Humbuckers", and "Tabulature" in its "space program"-related section. They're all guitar-related, as are Joe Satriani and Chris Impellitteri. Oddly enough, Phil Anselmo is ''not'' known for playing guitar, but it still fits in the general theme.

:::He played guitar for Necrophagia. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 15:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

== Slide Show background music ==

I'm not sure the Fun Fact, "The song that plays in the background of the slideshow is the song that plays when you roll over Store and Downloads on Main Page 19." is correct. It sounds similar, but they are definitely different songs. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:I agree. I don't think they are the same... I knew that Fun Fact didn't feel right:)!
--[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]]

==Smoking==
i think somthing about the narrarator talkign about "smooth and relaxing ciggerettes" should be put on the page. maybe as a reference to ciggerrete ads of the 60s and the propaganda and whatnot. its is a good reference...at least i think so..
:Sounds good to me - go right ahead. (Real-World References) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:: What about the Apollo-era footage of Mission Control, which almost always featured NASA's brain trust burning great fields of tobacco? There was even a line in Apollo 13 about the ground crews "smoking like chimneys."

== ______ _____face? ==

Anyone else think that the name Space Captainface was rather similar to Sir Hotbod Handsomeface, another nickname Strong Bad creates for himself in TGS issue 10? I'm ambivalent about whether this is a real inside reference or not, because there are a lot of similarities but, at the same time, it COULD just be coincidence. What do you all think? 01:49, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
*Nah, Strong Bad's just not entirely creative with name-creation, I think. Nor is Homestar, for that matter. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pong ==

The comment about a sonar "pong" not sounding different from a sonar "ping" is incorrect. If the target is moving towards the pinger, the returning "pong" will be higher pitched than the initial "ping". If the target is moving away from the pinger the "pong" will have a lower pitch than the "ping".
This is due to the [http://www.usm.maine.edu/gulfofmaine-census/Docs/Technology/Doppler.htm doppler]effect. -[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]]
:The critical question, though is: is "sonar pong" a real term? Or is it just a conflation of "ping-pong" and "sonar ping"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::I don't know about sonar, but in computing, the reply to a "Ping", which is named after the sonar term, is often called a "Pong" (indeed, that is the official name of the packet in some protocols, like IRC). Whether this is the case for sonar, formally or informally, I don't know. The [[Wikipedia:sonar|wikipedia article for Sonar]] contains "ping" but not "pong", if that means anything. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::A Google search for "sonar pong" (in quotes) yields only 24 results, mostly amateur fiction. Removing the quotes yields a lot more, but none that seem to me to indicate that the term "pong" is ever (accurately) used in connection with sonar. I'm going to go ahead and delete the part about the pong not sounding like the ping, which we've established is false, but it would be nice if we could also say that the term "sonar pong" doesn't really exist. Any Navy experts out there? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::The people I know that use SODAR (a sound based radar that's usually just above human hearing) just call it a return. They didn't make any claims about speaking for SONAR people, but they said they thought it was just called a return there, too.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]]

:::A lot of people (and some programs) in networking use the term "pong", but it's technically incorrect, as the term doesn't officially exist in networking nomenclature. It came about due to the game "ping pong" - seemed logical at the time, and it's basically just a shorthand term. It doesn't really mean anything otherwise. - {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::RFC 1459 §4.6.3. As I said, it's often called a "pong", and it is even the official name in a few protocols. I didn't say it was universal... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Cool! That still doesn't address whether it's valid in connection with sonar, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Ok let's make a list of classic sound effects that could be found on a sound f/x CD. "Sonar Ping" is a good one, it's a classic, used in movies and TV shows, and more recently on computers and cellphones. A sound from the videogame "Pong" is also often found on these CD's. Oh look there is a Ping and a Pong in the same list! If there are sonar ping then there must be sonar pongs? Even if there aren't, it's still a good joke in many ways so that's why they kept it.[[User:Vl-tone|Vl-tone]] 08:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Of course it's a good joke. :) What we're discussing is that the term "Sonar Pong" would be a misnomer if it were referring to the ping return. More likely, it was inserted into the list because, for most people, "pong" logically follows "ping", and I doubt TBC meant it as anything more than that. The style of this wiki, though, is to explain this sort of thing in the Fun Facts. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

==When Sbemails cry==

I'm waiting for someone to say that the opening song, "Email is the sound that we make when a young girl cries," is a reference to something. Is it simply to [[Wikipedia:When Doves Cry|When Doves Cry]]? I suspect not. It might not be a reference to anything, but I have a hunch it's to something I just don't know. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:The intro reminded me of something as well, but I can't put my finger on it. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::It always reminded me of Barry Manilow's "I Write the Songs." One of the lines is "I write the songs that make the young girls cry." --[[User:128.120.173.85|128.120.173.85]] 05:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Stron Gogh [Bad Ogh]'s Starry Night ==

During the scene with the $15, a blue or yellow shadow is cast by the cursor when it's moved over certain places around the star-filled area in the top of the slide. -- [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:58, 15 November 2005 (UTC)}}

:No idea what this fact is talking about. If it's true, then it needs to be more specific. The only "shadow" I see my cursor producing is the same shadow it ''always'' produces. -- {{User:Jay/sig}}
::''The following users agree with Jay that nothing special happens with the cursor:''
::*[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]
::*[[User:RaisedByCoffee|RaisedByCoffee]]
::*[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]]
::*[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::*[[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]]
::*[[User:Danbri28|Danbri28]]
::*{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}
::*{{User:Mee/sig}}
::*{{User:Lapper/sig}}
::*[[User:Lucres|Lucres]]
::*{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
::*{{User:Phlip/sig}}
::*{{User:The Chort/sig}}
::*[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::*[[User:NOT Billy Bob Bob]]
::*[[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SupremeRulerOfSBadia]]
::*{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}}
::*{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
''NOTE: I moved this here from the STUFF page because this seems more like a question of fact than opinion (that is, the shadow is either there or it isn't). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)''

==Pun Intended?==
Whether he realizes it or not, Strong Bad makes quite the pun when he says "''pretender'' of the galaxies" instead of "''defender'' of the galaxies". In societies whith monarchs, a claimant to the throne who styles themself the "true" ruler is often refered to as a "''pretender'' to the throne". Likewise, Strong Bad's whole space program is little more than make-believe. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:13, 15 Nov 2005 (PST)

:Interesting point, though I doubt TBC thought about it that much. Also, it might be worth noting that in an easter egg in [[extra plug]], the King Of Town says "This bill is pretendous!" - I wonder if there's anything to that... {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

:I always thought "Pretender" was Strong Bad attempting to combine "protector" and "defender." [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 22:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::No, I'm pretty sure it's just him combining "Pretend" and "Defender" in a neat little pun. I don't think it's a reference to any medieval thing though - it's just a clever li'l word. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Reflection ==

I decompiled the flash file and happened to find the original picture used in the Colecovision Hamburger Vs. Ghost scene.
[http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5844/d5ru.png]
It probably doesn't deserve a place in the article, but I thought it was kind of amusing. — {{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 21:29, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:That is really cool, with the reflection and all. We generally don't put stuff in that you have to decompile to find, though. But I'd like to make an exception in this case. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::We don't include things you have to decompile to find unless they add something to the article - same as out-of-the-frame things and seek bar things - [[different town#Trivia|case in point]]. The question is - can we figure out who's holding the camera from this? It looks like Mike, but I can't be sure... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Definitely looks like Mike to me. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Hi-Ball==

Should we add, in the Explanations section, what a Hi-ball is, or is it to obvious in context? [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 22:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not sure. It's implied (especially in [[radio]]) that a Hi-Ball is an alcoholic drink, and this could fit the theme with the guy at Mission Control smoking as well. But it's never made clear in either of these emails. (I'm also wracking my brain trying to figure out where else the Hi-Ball has appeared.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:20, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't think anywhere besides [[radio]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::[http://m-w.com/dictionary/highball highball:]an iced drink containing liquor (as whiskey) and water or a carbonated beverage and served in a tall glass. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 22:29, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
This is at least the third time they've used hi-ball in some way. I smell a running gag . . . -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:12, 16 Nov 2005 (PST)

== Game Boy Camera ==

For some reason, the grilled cheese segment music reminds me of game boy camera.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 13:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

==Up Stairs and DownStairs and in his nightgown==
Wait, Stux, before I go rereverting your rerevert, weren't you right the first time? From Dictionary.com: 
''1. Down the stairs: raced my friend downstairs.'' 
''2. To or on a lower floor: waited downstairs while her parents were getting dressed.'' 
Now technically, it sounds like it would be ''more'' appropriate if there were a sense of place (referring to a ''particular'' set of stairs, known to the speaker and the audience), but I would think this entry makes it hard to call their usage an out-and-out, verifiable "error," certainly not one deserving a Fun Fact, anyway. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:44, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:The way I read it as it should be is "body falling down ''[the]'' stairs" so the body is actively falling down the stairs -- that would make sense for a sound effect. The other way "body falling downstairs" implies that I am upstairs listening to a body falling in the floor bellow. The example sentece 1. to me, reads the same way: I'm racing my friend to the lower level. Once I realized this that's why I re-reverted. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:48, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:'''(Edit conflict)''' This is similar to the "trooper" discussion we were having in [[Talk:Coach Z]]. Here's how I understand the usage of the terms:
:*'''Going downstairs''': Denotes that you're specifically going to a lower floor. Refers more to the destination than to how you get there.
:*'''Going down (the) stairs''': Refers more to the fact that you're going down a flight of stairs. Does not necessarily talk about the destination.
:*'''Blank stares''': What I'm probably getting right now. ;)

Personally, I think "Body falling downstairs" and "Body falling down stairs" are both perfectly acceptable, though given the nature of the sound effect, "down stairs" (as in, "down some stairs") is probably more technically correct. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:'''Edit Conflict: ''' Ugh well ok i'm not so sure now... ''but'' 1. the samples you gave me were from the ''adv.'' section, is the sound effect label also using it as an adverb? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:54, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:: '''Edit Conflict 1: Edit conflict, too?''' Sorry, but I'm still confused. Wouldn't "'''To''' or on a lower floor" cover this? Again, that would convey a sense of place on the speaker, but would be acceptable; and in the first example, the speaker isn't referring to a floor ''below'' per se; he/she is actually transitioning floors; by the time of the comment, he/she ''is'' "downstairs." At any rate, I maintain that "down stairs" would have been preferable, but I'm not convinced it's absolutely ''wrong'' as used, at least not enough to merit a Fun Fact. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:59, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:::'''(Edit Conflict's Last Stand)''' More to the point: Despite its technical correctness, is it necessary to point out an error on a commonly-used term? "Downstairs" may be slang in this case, but virtually everyone uses the term to refer to both the action and the destination. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:59, 21 November 2005 (UTC) (Am I making any sense?)

::::''' ''Not'' and edit Conflict:''' I dunno. This is an encyclopedia no? So yeah i'm kinda torn between both points: it's technically not correct (??) but it's techincally correct and used by everybody. So there's a little bit of both, and it definitely makes for an interesting party conversation. piece. Thing. Ok I g2g to class... cya! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:26, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::What's the issue here? TBC clearly use "downstairs." (See easter egg) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:34, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I think the issue is whether or not TBC's use of "downstairs" is correct. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Oh. Sorry. I thought you were wondering about what spelling to use in the transcript. Nevermind me then... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:21, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of this discussion when I saw the item in the fun facts, and I removed the mention. Now that I see this thread, I should at least justify my reasoning: as mentioned way above, ''downstairs'' can function as an adverb meaning "down the stairs" (by the way, dictionary.com is not a reference; the source quoted is actually the ''American Heritage Dictionary''). Hence, a body falling down the stairs is falling downstairs. It really doesn't matter that ''downstairs'' can mean any of the other things it means or that "down some stairs" might have been a better way to put it. The fact is that TBC's usage is correct and therefore unremarkable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:43, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I just throught that it was what I have come to call a Strongbadism. Strange combinations of words and spellings that mostly appears is connection with Strong Bad, such as "Tish, you", "Please to be putting on more clothes" and so on. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 20:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
===Just like your Earth insects. Larger, of course...===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's pronunciation of "mutant" is most likely a reference to the classic science-fiction film ''[[Wikipedia:This Island Earth|This Island Earth]]'' (featured in ''[[Wikipedia:Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie|Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie]]''), where an alien "mut-ant" figures in the climax.}}
{{stuffverdict|13:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)|16:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted as revised|13|2|space program}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Chris Impellitteri / A mutant from where? ===
{{stufffact|The Proud Anselmo, Satriani 5 and the Impellitteri Sector all refer to famous rock musicians — [[Wikipedia:Phil Anselmo|Phil Anselmo]], [[Wikipedia:Joe Satriani|Joe Satriani]] and [http://www.rapture.net/impellitteri/ Chris Impellitteri], respectively.}}
{{stuffverdict|11:53, 17 November 2005 (UTC)|16:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)|combined and then accepted as revised|11|1|space program}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Hap Arnold ===
{{stufffact|Harold "Strap" Coopmore is possibly a reference to U.S. Air Force General [[Wikipedia:Henry H. Arnold|Henry "Hap" Arnold]] who served on the committee that would become [[Wikipedia:NASA|NASA]].|Hap Arnold}}
{{stuffverdict|22:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|16:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|3|space program}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Proud Anselmo ===
{{stufffact|The "Proud Anselmo" is most likely a reference to [http://www.space.com/news/space_news_100-1.html Rene Anselmo], the driven creator of the commercial satellite industry.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:25, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|16:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|20|5|space program}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== More Grilled and Cheesy Than You ===
{{stufffact|The obsession with grilled cheese sandwiches seen in this email may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Sims 2 Nightlife|The Sims 2 Nightlife]], where one of the available aspirations is the "Grilled Cheese Aspiration"}}
{{stuffverdict|19:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|18:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|22|0|space program}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The space army ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad has the military-esque rank of "First Lieuteneral", but NASA (which SBASAF mirrors) is a civillian organization.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)|00:09, 15 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|20|0|space program}}

== not-for-profit vs. non-profit. ==

''re: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=space_program&oldid=318152 this edit], which was revised then reverted;''

I left the phrase "non-profit" intact because it's the most common version, and because it's the quickest route to the relevant wikipedia article. However, I felt that it was important to include the note about the phrase "not-for-profit" meaning the same thing, not for the sake of completeness, or because it's also fairly common (which it is), but because I felt that it should be mentioned since the phrasing used in the email itself is "definitely-for-profit". I'll leave it for now because I don't want to start an edit war, I just wanted to state my case. - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 20:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

:That's understandable; at first I agreed with you. But I noticed the wikipedia link offers several different versions, including "nonprofit", "not-for-profit", "non-profit", and "NPO". There's no reason to mention all of them. However you've made a good case. I can't speak for all editors, but if you want to change it back again I won't revert it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:40, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== What's my age again? ==

'''''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I'm in my 60s!''

Is this the first (and/or only) time a character has given a direct, numerical reference to their age? [[User:Gus|Gus]] 01:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I think so... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== The Last Starfighter ==
The idea of being good enough at video games to be an astronaut might come from the scifi movie The Last Starfighter where a trailer park slacker beats an arcade machine and is recrutied as the savior of an alien race. Anybody else notice that? -[[User:*_Aaron_*]]

Talk:alternate universe

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:36:53 GMT

Uglinessman: /* The Pit of Despair! Don't even think-- */

== Fourth Wall==

OW! My fourth wall! Anonny-5:36 WST

You don't say! -[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

Now we have an excuse in case there are made-up characters in the "real" HR universe... it's because Homestar was trying to make a real fruit smoothie! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:[[20X6 vs. 1936|It was Homestar's fault all along.]] >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== That's the second biggest stretch I've ever seen! ==

Would you believe I nearly added that "This is about... the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of." as a Get Smart reference? Luckily it missed the article by ''this'' much. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:It's been so long since I've seen that show, that I don't even remember that that would work. I think I was seven or eight when it was taken off Nick-at-Nite. The [[depressio|dumb and crappy]] Fox version doesn't count. I refuse to let it do so. The only things about it that I can remember were that one of his shoes was a telephone, and that the bad guys were called "Chaos". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Last SBEMail? ==

Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but given the song at the end, and the length and "recurring characters" show... anyone else think that the one who suggested a while back that SBEMail #150 might be the last of them is correct? I hope not, but if it *is*, it's quite a sendoff. I particularly liked this one. -{{User:YK/sig}} 10:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Why would The Paper tell us to send Strong Bad more emails if it was the last?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 10:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I was a little worried too. But coming to think of it, TBC are doing it for a living right? So they probably won't blow up their source of income. Cisz 12:52 CET, 04-04-06

wahhh{{User:Csours/sig}} 11:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Dudes.... this is the 150th email. Of course they're doing something special for it. --[[User:King Nintendoid|King Nintendoid]] 15:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Plus guys, SB is going to update to an inkjet printer in 23 emails, although he might not considering it's been more than two years since he proposed changes to Strong Badia. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 17:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

And Dangeresque 3 still hasn't come out yet either.
...How many times have TBC kept promises they made in earlier toons? Peasant's Quest is one, Strong Sad not being invited to the second Halloween toon is another. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:I haven't watched this yet, and now I'm sad and excited. I ''do'' hope this isn't a final SBEmail, or the end of H*R, because if it was or if there is before I get out of High School (which is about 5 more years), I'll cry my eyes out. Or at least make a petition. OFF TO THE SB EMAIL! ''{dun dun duhhh!}'' --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that they couldn't end SBemails because most of the store items are based on SBemails. They enad it and they'll lose much, much money.--[[User:Shadow6000|s6k]] 01:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

For the record... I don't think they'd end the whole site. If this is "the end", it's probably just the last SBEMail. After which, they'd start something new. But that said, it's all just speculation on my part. The ending song "Save the last e-mail for Strong Bad" kinda hinted at that, though... But, yeah, as DumDe said, it also doesn't really fit that the Paper came down at the end. Why e-mail Strong Bad if there're gonna be no more SBEMail toons? Like I said, I'm probably jumping the gun. There's no need for panic right now. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Jumping the gun about [[Wikipedia:Jumping the shark|jumping the shark]]? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheFunniestGuy]] 04:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::My goodness, this is a cash cow they're gonna ride as far as possible. Who among us would not keep doing what we love if it pays for our dry bed and warm food? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I don't know. There're some times where it seems like they're running out of ideas, then a SBEMail like this one comes along and proves me wrong. Still, it's just a feeling I had... -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::::I really don't care if people are jumping the gun. Users freak out all too easily on this website. I prefer to egg them on. Anyway, I seriously doubt it will happen (any of the stuff these guys have suggested), but when I first saw this email, this friend of mine who was watching the email with me, immediately after the paper came down, announced with no doubt in his voice, "This is the last email." --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::To me, "save the last email for Strong Bad" does not mean that this is the last email; it means that the last should be reserved for Strong Bad to answer... just because he's so awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::Like I said, don't take my initial post too seriously. It's just a feeling I happened to have after seeing the ending song, and I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way. I'm hardly "panicking". I'd be upset if that was it for the SBEMails, but I trust that even if it was, TBC would make something just as good to replace it. I doubt they'd just ditch the site altogether. How many people, after all, have the dream life they do? To be able to make good money doing something they've always loved, and from the comfort of their own homes, no less. To give it all up and get "outside" jobs would be impractical, especially when you consider that Missy is pregnant, and she'd need Mike more than ever. After all, being your own boss and able to make your own hours would be a great thing when raising kids. But... now I'm just rambling. (And no, I wasn't mocking TBC at all; Quite the contrary, actually. I really do respect them. I think they've got a great thing going for themselves, and I too would love to be able to make a living -- and make people as happy as they do -- simply doing something I love that comes completely natural to me.) Point is, even if this *is*, in fact, the last SBEMail, it's doubtful it's the end of good ol' H*R. -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::This isn't the first time people have started panicing and worrying and claiming that the good times are over. Remember [[50 emails]], [[comic]], [[flashback]], [[rock opera]] and [[portrait]]? It seems everytime they turn out a great landmark email like this one (or even take a long break), people think that they'll never make an email quite like that again. As long as people still send in emails, they'll continue to churn out toons and sbemails until the site becomes unprofitable. All we have to do now is just calm down, wait till next week and not jump out the window crying our heads off. They'll be back. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if that post of mine (back in the main page archive) scared you, YK. Even if it's the last Sbemail, I know TBC can come up with something awesome to replace it. Here's to hoping for a 151 and beyond. -[[Walking Armless]]

:Oh, it's not like that. I was just wondering if you could've possibly been correct on that notion, given the content of this SBEMail. But, hum. I suppose my post here was a pretty premature jump to conclusions, yeah. Sorry everyone. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

This is not the last SBEmail. I admit I also got pretty worried, but thinking rationally, TBC would tell us. They wouldn't leave us hanging. - frldgf v2.13

The song leads me to believe that the last e-mails will be answered by someone other than Strong Bad, and he wants to be able to answer the very last of the last, at least. Just kidding.
-Zyborg

Ya know, homestar has actually answered an e-mail in a way, and so has the cheat. -Guest

Well, turns out I was [[senior_prom|wrong]]. Excellent. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 19:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==voip==
why this went away?
 voip{{User:Csours/sig}} 13:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Anybody know whether or not VoIP is or should be considered for a running gag? I know it has also appeared in TGS (#1, I think), but I can't think of anything else. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 15:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:That's pretty clearly a coincidence. VOIP! is a good onomotapoeia for the sound effect that accompanies Strong Bad's appearance/disappearance, while VoIP is an acronym for an emerging technology that lets people talk over the Internet. The two are really not related, and nothing else in the cartoon suggests that they should be. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Da Huuuuudge ==

This is the first time we hear da huuuudge talk or speak. Okay with that, yeah? {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

There ought to be something for da huuuudge speaking, i mean its lower-class opera...i think. [[User:ArchiveMaker|ArchiveMaker]]

== Wow... ==

Loved it. I am a sucker for big-scale reunion bits. Just ''yesterday'' I was reading the [[Twin Characters]] page and thinking, "I wonder if we'll ever see Strong Bad go back in time and coexist with Old-Timey Strong Bad?". {{unsigned|Bill|12:09, 4 April, 2006 (UTC)}}
:This has now replaced [[rock opera]] as my favorite email of all-time. It pretty much more than made up for the April Fool's prank(s). {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::The first time I watched it, I literally cried with laughter. The epic anthem at the end did me in. A touchstone email - that's why I chose the pic I chose fot this email. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::It's my new favorite SBEmail too. {{User:LePorello/sig}} 14:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I also think that this is a great email, but i don't think that this is my favorite. It definetly is in the top 10 though [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 20:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== What it is, my Doge? ==

Is it worth mentioning that [[Wikipedia:Doge|Doge]] was the title of the rulers of Venice or Genoa? [[User:Silly Dan|Silly Dan]] 12:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Probably not. The word was previously used in [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] and was removed from that toon's page as a fact. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Total Load ==

I wonder what the "TOTAL LOAD" is (one of the ingredients of Homestar's "real fruit smoothie"). Is it [[Wikipedia:Whey protein|whey protein]], or some similar nutritional supplement? At least, that's what [[:Image:Fruit smoothie.png|the container]] [http://www.affordablesupplements.com/pure_whey_protein_stack.jpg looks like] to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's Mayonaise, for some unknown reason.. --[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 14:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Mayonnaise? No, given the context and its appearance, I think it is clearly meant to represent a tub of weight-gain protein powder such as you would find at GNC or a high-priced gym. I'm intrigued by the "Total Load" label, though. As far as I can tell, this is not an actual brand name—I'd be surprised if it were. But the phrase sounds familiar, like it was an insult somebody used... somewhere... sometime... --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::Perhaps you were thinking of Jeffery Parsons' work on [http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/faculty/parsons/OCEAN542/total.pdf sediment delivered to the mouth of a river]. ''';)''' {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Nah, I was probably thinking of the [[Wikipedia:External electrical load|combined impedances of speaker drivers wired in series]]. Or more likely, I was thinking of one of the death messages from [[Wikipedia:Space Quest|Space Quest III]]: "Thanks, you've been a real pantload." --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Or maybe "[[A Folky Tale|Man, Strong Sad, that's a real load right there. ''A real load!'']]"... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::Given HSR's love of all things crapesque, perhaps "Total Load" has an assumed [of crap.] notreallyauser 11:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]] ==

Anybody find it strange they would use TWO of the Made-Up Strong Bad Animals (Sterrence and Da Huuuuuudge), yet have no mention of the Monstrosity, Deep Sea Fangly Fish, The Red Steckled Elbermung, etc. I guess they really liked Da Huuuuuudge or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, how can you not like Da Huuuuuudge? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The El Pardack and Red Steckled Elbermung were just pictures, so I don't think they had much of a chance. As for the others... I guess we didn't need too many variations from a single email. A single zoo scene with them all would've been great, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::My guess is that they rejected the Fangly Fish because it's a [[Powered by The Cheat]] thing (and it's a fish, which would need to live underwater). As for El Pardack and the Elbermung: Yep, both pictures. Never got anywhere. And the Monstrosity was Strong Bad himself with alterations, rather than a different incarnation of Strong Bad, so it probably didn't count. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I do think that it is weird to use 2 made up animals, but Sterence and Da Huuuuuudge didn't appear at the same time at all. [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 20:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Voice ==

Did anyone else think Coach Z's voice was off in this cartoon?
-Ben Mo
:Not really; I think he's just supposed to sound really freaked out/panicked in that scene... it's pretty similar to how he sounded when he thought he "killed" Strong Sad in Folky Tales. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Music ==

"The music in the Strong Badman comic is from [[action figure]]."

Wasn't it also reused in [[suntan]], and should this be noted?[[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, it was. And it was also reused in [[army]], as well. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:Maybe I'm misremembering (as it's been a looong time since I've played them), but isn't it the music from Doom or Quake or one of those old FPS's? I was just listening to this SBEmail (not watching), and it sure sounded like it.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:33, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage Fishing Easter Egg-- Connection? ==

The odd "echo" sound effect heard in the fishing easter egg is also used in the first episode of the mockumentary TV series "Fishing with John", by actor/musician John Lurie.

I'm assuming that this is a stock sound effect, and simply a coincidence. To my knowledge, the similarities end with the sound itself and "fishing". But as a fan of both homestarrunner.com and Fishing with John, it made me laugh.

Fishing with John seems like the kind of indie/cult television show that ''could'' be referenced by HSR, though.

Anyone else think of this?

- C

: Well, the same sound effect was used in the "Fishing with Coach Z" segment in [[lures & jigs]], I'd say it was probably intentional (check out the commentary transcript for that email). {{User:Saturn/sig}}

Haha! That's so awesome. I haven't viewed lures & jigs since before I got my hands on Fishing with John.

- C

::The scene also seems similar to the fisherman from [[Peasant's Quest]].

- C

:::This particular sound is coming from a Casio SK-1, using the built-in "human voice" instrument. [http://www.synthmania.com/Keyboards/Casio/SK-1/Sounds/Factory%20sound%20examples/human%20voice.mp3] The SK-1 was often used in early toons, and in most Halloween toons, for the organ or ghostly sounds. The Cheat was seen playing on a modified SK-1 in a few toons, and the actual keyboard appeared in a puppet movie.

==No Little Strong Bad==

Not only is their no PBTC Strong Bad, but there isn't any Little Strong Bad, from [[flashback]] and [[highschool]]
:[[Atari Strong Bad]] is missing as well, as are any self portraits of him in Teen Girl Squad. Four of the made up animals are vacant also. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::And plus, there's no [[highschool|Strongbadiophage]]. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

===List of missing Variations===
*PBTC - Does not exist in an alternate reality, Strong Bad has watched the toons of himself before.
*[[Little Strong Bad]] and Baby Strong Bad - It was an alternate reality machine, not a time machine.
*[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]] - Just Sterrence would have made more sense, but I guess they liked Da Huuuudge enough to represent him too.
*[[Atari Strong Bad]] - All video games represented by Vector.
*Self Portraits, Drawings, Etc - They aren't supposed to be alive or anything, just a portrait.
*Strongbadiophage - Yeah, he could have been there. But also represented by Teenage Strong Bad.
*[[Teen Girl Squad]] - Presumably, the comic variations are represented by Strong Badman. Also, as with PBTC, it does not exist in an alternate reality; Strong Bad made them himself. What's more, they technically are drawings.
*The [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] version - Again, it's an alternate reality machine, not a time machine. It's one of the earliest forms of the Strong Bad as we know him today.

Seems like there's plausible reasons for missing variations by my viewpoint. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I understand all of those reasons except PBTC. Seriously, why does it have to be made be Strong Bad? It's an alternate version! He even features on the Everybody Everybody poster. It seemed like you just wanted to find some sort of reason and "It was made by The Cheat" was the only thing you could come up with.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 20:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:The second and last point above - they did include Teenage Strong Bad, so that argument is moot. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::Also, PBTC's idea is disproved by the fact that they included Old-Timey Strong Bad. An obvious choice, yes, but Strong Bad still didn't create him. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Maybe they wanted to keep the repetition to a minimum? Sterrance and Da Huuuuuudge is the only instance where they've got 2 from the same email... including the extra variations from [[animal]], [[highschool]], [[video games]], etc... would only make it repetitive and cluttered (how many jokes can you make with Secret Collect Strong Bad?) Tbird's reason for PbTC still stands – every alternate variation in the email was made by Strong Bad in one of the emails, PbTC was not. Which leaves his depictions in TGS, etc, which are actually supposed to be Strong Bad himself, not an alternate universe version. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::: Not so - Old-Timey Strong Bad predates the SBEmails and Puppet Strong Bad made his debut long before his email debut ([[Real-Live E-Mails]]). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, my PBTC reasoning was explained crappily. I fixed it. Here's also a whole new can of worms... [[User:Thunderbird|Thunderbird]] 07:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hm. The only problem with the revised PBTC Strong Bad explanation is that... couldn't the same logic apply to Keyboard Strong Bad? Granted, we never see him *watching* Sweet Cuppin Cakes, but the fact that Eh! Steve and the Wheelchair have appeared in Teen Girl Squad (though I don't know if Homestar Runner Pay Plus would be considered canon) means that they too were just "created" by Strong Bad, and not based solely on his imagination, per se. Eh, that was pretty badly worded, but I hope it makes *some* sense. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:You said that it's an alternate reality machine, not a time machine. Well, how do you explain The Strong Bad?
Hey, maybe Strongbadiophage ''was'' there, but just too small to be seen. ;) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::If Strongbadiophage was there, Strong Bad would probably have shrunk down to his size to meet him. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Say, one character that wasn't mentioned... [[pop-up|Senor Muybueno]]. Ok, so that's not a big deal...but, heh, it's a character we missed. Or does it count as a "self-portrait"? -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, it would have cool if they did a pop-up world. Though it might end up being too much like the Strong Badman comic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Also there was no Catlefunnies Strong Bad or Dangeresque. But Dangeresque I can understand. {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:Dangeresque was *sorta* there. Strong Bad wears his Dangeresque sunglasses in the scene where "Tiny-Handed Strong Bad" is "digging to China with his ears". I'm fairly certain that was an intentional Dangeresque reference. -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

What about the Teen Girl Squad variations? None of those ones are here either. I guess as with the PBTC versions, they don't exist in an alternate reality; Strong Bad made them himself, so they basically count as drawings. However, here's what I think should have happen if they did include a TGS scene: Strong Bad sees his TGS form making out with the hot version of The Ugly One, as seen in Issue 10. He then proceeds to make out with her himself, only to disappear suddenly. Strong Bad himself makes the disappearing noise. I think that's how it would happen if Strong Bad mets his TGS form. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not like Strong Bad would actually visit every single alternate universe, you know. He probably only ended up in a few, and um... the rest were offscreen durring the song and had no solos. yah.

===Characters that shouldn't have been there===

*Old-Timey Strong Bad - Exists in the past, not an alternate realty. Explained in the 100th email, with him mailing half a mustache to SB.
*Senor Cardgage - Seen around FCUSA often. Unless that was supposed to be creepy comb over Strong Bad.
:From [[Senor Mortgage]]'s toon description: ''Wait. Is Senor Cardgage real?!'' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
*Keyboard Strong Bad - watched, and admited created by Strong Bad in Decemberween in July.

So in conclusion, the whole thing doesn't make much sense, and we shouldn't read into it too much. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

What? Are you talking about? I mean...what are you talking about? OTSB should definitely be there. The interdimensional portal was invented in the exact same was as Homestar's time machine, which means that the portal would no doubt function as a time machine as well to some extent. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Umm, when talking about alternate universes in Homestar Runner, you just can't leave out Old-Timey. It's just...wrong. Even if he "shouldn't be there because he was in the past and not a new dimension", Old-Timey Strong Bad just HAD to be in an email talking about alternate universes. It would make less sense for him NOT to be used. Get what I'm saying?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

: I don't think there's any rhyme or reason behind the Strong Bads they chose. I think they just picked the variations they found most interesting or liked most. BTW, while I can kinda see an argument against Cardgage and Old-Timey, I don't see why Keyboard Strong Bad would be an exception any more than, say, Stinkoman or Sterrance, people that FCUSA's Strong Bad also blatently invented. --[Jay, not logged in] 19:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==USA For Africa==

The concept of them all singing together seems to be similar to [[Wikipedia:USA for Africa|USA for Africa]], where they got together pop music superstars and had them sing together to raise money to help the poor in Africa. Their most notable song was "We Are the World".

:Yeah I agree. I think the reference was pretty obvious and I was surprised to not find it in the Real-World Refrences section already.

::I've reverted edits to extend this to Live Aid and other later ones. Really, this is the original, and it's also a US effort (many oyher were British) and this is a US cartoon. So let's not keep adding other events making this TTATOT. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Universe Creator ==
You know, most of the universes Strong Bad visited were fantasies that he was supposed to have made up. (animal, highschool, etc) Does Strong Bad create an alternate universe every time he thinks up some new characters or time periods? The mystery continues! >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps each of us creates an alternate universe when we imagine. Pretty deep, eh? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Or perhaps we all exist in an alternate reality created by the imagination of somebody else. Perhaps even a "Strong Bad" somewhere. Pretty deep...er, eh? (It had to be said) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Or maybe it's all fate... we can only imagine things that already exist in alternate realities, and although we think we're making stuff up ourselves, we're actually just getting insight on something that's perfectly real. >.> Pretty de....ouch. Hit rock bottom. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Perhaps all the things we experience as "real" are just shadows on the wall of a cave that we watch as we sit chained to a chair with our backs to the opening of the cave into the Real World. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Dang, this is like the dream discussion from the SBEMail150!?!?! page. We all ought to be philosophers or something. Anyway, maybe our "reality" is only the dream of one small child in the REAL reality, and her world is only the dream of another small child, therefore expanding out into infinate dreams and worlds and realities and...I need to get some sleep. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 22:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe we're all just a bunch of kids with really big heads and enormous imaginations? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} (pretending to be working) 00:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I always thought an alternate universe was one where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down. -[[User:Compdude|Compdude]]
:::::::: Compdude, thanks for ruining a perfectly good philosophical discussion... I was really interested in what they were saying... [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 01:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Real-World References==
*The description of shadows on a cave wall comes from an [[Wikipedia:Allegory of the cave|allegory]] told by [[Wikipedia:Plato|Plato]] in ''[[Wikipedia:Republic (Plato)|The Republic]]''.

== Eyeball Pear ==

I just realized- we finally have the answer as to whether that eyeball pair used googly eyes or not! It's like they read our minds. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:Or at least read our discussions. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Which is why I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_150%3F%21%3F&diff=prev&oldid=301121 taking credit] for that shot. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Oba Kaybe ==

Is it worth mentioning that Bill Cosby also used this phrase on an episode of The Cosby Show? Most people would be more likely to have heard it on the show than on Himself.
:Actually, I thought it was a catchphrase of one of the Fat Albert characters, wasn't it? Which I ''think'' would make it older than Himself. (There's an unusual concept...) But what I'm more concerned about is the inconsistency between the phrase in the Transcript and the phrase in the Fun Fact. I'm not in a position to do any careful listening right now. When I am, I'm going to take a closer look at this thing from several angles. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::It's how Mushmouth would say "okay". I've added this to the Fun Fact, but it could use some editing. {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::When he said it on Himself, it was in a dentist routine. The dentist aske the patient (who's been complaining that thanks to the novocaine, his bottom lip is on the floor) to spit. I'll start from the line right before the one we're talking about. '''DENTIST:''' Give it a try. '''PATIENT:''' Gib bit a trby? Oba kaybe! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I thought it was a common expression, like okey-dokey or kawinky-dink. And it's pronouinced oh-bee kay-bee. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It is a fairly common expression these days, but I'm reasonably sure it started with Mushmouth even if most people don't realize it. Since SB's pronunciation is clearly "ohbee kaybee", I've discarded the reference to Himself. (If memory serves, ACupOfCoffee's report of the pronunciation in that routine is accurate, but it has been a ''long'' time since I've heard it.) --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Missing Limbs ==
I think the ears and nose thing with Strong Bad is another instance of Missing Limbs (ex. Homestar, Marzipan, KoT, etc.) but not just 'limbs'. Coach Z not having a mouth would go along with this too.. Missing facial parts? --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 19:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
: Missing Anatomy. But everyone knows they aren't really missing. We see Homestar et al. manipulate objects and we hear Coach Z speak all the time. Maybe this should all be re-filed under something like ''Invisible Body Parts'' or ''Invisible Anatomy''. Or, if you like ''really'' bad puns, perhaps ''Grey-Area Anatomy''. {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::''Invisible Anatomy'' and the like would work, except that some people (like me) speculate that armless characters don't have invisible arms but rather telekenitic powers. :/ - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Peaks ==

Probably not worth a Fun Fact, but this is the third reference to Twin Peaks they've done so far- the previous ones were in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament]].[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

Dale Cooper spilling coffee on himself -- is that verified? I've been rewatching the series recently, and while I haven't made it thru the whole thing yet, I think I've found the scene in question, and there's no coffee involved. I think the coffee is just from Strong Sad's storyboard, which didn't have any direct Twin Peaks references that I noticed. [[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 06:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

==Sequicentennial==

The word "sequicentennial" means 150 years. The "ennial" is related to the word "annual". Because sequicenten-email is a play on words, it works in this case. However, if he were to have called it his sequcentennial email, it would be incorrect, as he would have had to have started in 1856 and answered one annually in order to celebrate his sequicentennial. Perhaps "1936" could also have been "1856".
:They've usually referred to their milestones as years though – a 50th birthday candle in [[50 emails]] and in [[flashback]] Homestar says "Happy 100th birthday"... Hmm, running gag perhaps? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::But he replaced the "ennial" with"email", changing it from 150-years to 150-emails. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

==No probalo, Bobalo==
Okay, Strong Sad's "No prob, Bob": ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHNvdXJjZWlkPW1vemlsbGEtc2VhcmNofHE9MTIgbW9ua2V5c3xmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=23 12 Monkeys]'' reference or TTATOT? Is anyone familiar with this usage outside of that movie? Which, incidentally, is a lot of fun. Go watch it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Nevamind. I just answered my own question with a look through the edit history (Bob The Builder). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Wait a minute, it has by now been revealed in [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/alternate universe|STUFF]] that this ''isn't'' used in Bob the Builder. So how 'bout it—''12 Monkeys'' or common phrase? Let's take a poll:
*I've heard this more than once in conversation.
#[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] (Waldo from Family Matters used to say it, and I use it quite often.)
#This is an extremely common phrase. I have never specifically heard it in connection with any TV show or movie, but I and my family use it all the times. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

*No, I've only heard it in connection with or quotation of the movie.

#[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]

== "Myrtlebeth" ==

I know it kinda matches up with "Elizagerth," but every time I watched the easter egg I thought Senor Cardgage said "Myrtle bass (like the fish)." --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 23:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's definatly Myrtlebeth here... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

==Running time?==

[http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1893/runningtime3ln.png Hmm.] I ran the e-mail in Winamp and it came out with a totally different running time than what's listed. Is it possible that my Flash Player is inaccurate somehow or something? Anybody care to clarify or help? I don't see why it would be inaccurate, but I'll keep checkin' about. (Note that it says 8:10 because of Easter Eggs, which I assume aren't counted in running times.) [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:Awesome. I have Audacity as well, thanks to my brother. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

::The thing ends at frame 4242. At 12fps, that's 353.5 seconds, or 5:53. It seems WinAmp is only counting 10fps, instead of the correct 12 (424 seconds is 7:04). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Recorded Backwards? ==
Usually, to get the effect of the Coach Z Easter egg, the actors will record the lines, reverse them, imitate the reversal and reverse it back – so the phonemes are in the correct order, but the sounds fade in at the start instead of fading out at the end. However I'm not convinced they've done this in this email. 
{{Audio|Backwards Forwards.ogg|Listen to the clip, forwards and backwards}} 
I'm pretty sure they've just faked it – the reversed clip clearly sounds to me like it has more of a backwards sound to it, with the fading in at the beginning and such. What do you people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:As I recall, The Simpsons also faked the effect for the second "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" episode. "Chief Wiggum. Don't eat eat the clues!" I got the impression that by faking the reversed speech, TBC were inspired by/referencing The Simpsons more than Twin Peaks.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::It's not necessarily a Simpson reference. But it is clear the backwards version shows they faked the backward speech - though I wish it were otherwise! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::definitely faked. it is impossible, completely impossible to make the 't' sounds that homestar makes using reversed speech. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)????
::::I've managed a pretty good 't' sound myself, with lots of practice. But if you get to that point you've lost the effect completely, and you need to use an earlier take. Not that that's relevant to the point, or anything.[[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 07:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== Baboon or Buffoon? ==

Buffoon makes more sense in context, but I can see an argument for baboon as well. How do we feel about this? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:Baboon, definitely. You can hear the 'baa' sound, as opposed to pronouncing it buh-boon. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::I think present day strong bad said Aah! Squshy grey tomaots instead of shades of greay tomatoes. alex H.

== Aäa! ==

The one problem with using the ä is that a search for "doppelganger" will not turn up this version. Also, searching for "doppelgänger" (intentionally using the character) finds only the character usage, not the entity. The search here is incapable of allowing a, ä, and &auml; to all be found equally. The same is certainly true with other characters. Perhaps there's a fix? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:An excellent point. Er, two points. Unless the admins can tell us there's some option to make the Search account for this, the fix is to settle for ''doppelganger'' with no umlauts, which is an acceptable English spelling in American Heritage and Webster's, and to do the same with other words when possible. Of course, there are some accented characters that should be kept, such as the distinction between [[Señor]] Havin' A Little Trouble and [[Senor Cardgage]], or entries on the [[Foreign Words]] page. But in general, we should probably just gloss over non-English characters as long as it doesn't make us look stupid. Can I get an amen, and then the doppelgangers can be respelled? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::I dunno. My dictionary (The American Heritage) as well as a brief search of online dictionaries shows the umlauted version as standard and the plain version as a variant. I'd hate to sacrifice accuracy for such a marginal return, especially knowing that MediaWiki's search "feature" is woefully lacking. On the other hand, a [http://www.google.com/search?q=doppelg%C3%A4nger+site%3Ahrwiki.org Google search] for the umlauted version also shows the plain version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think I will block anyone who tries to get rid of the umlauts. (Just kidding.) But seriously, it would look terrible not to write it with an umlaut. I admit, I'm biased on the matter, seeing that "Heimstern Laufer" has rather negative connotations for me, but still... {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Why? What does Heimstern Laufer (without the umlaut) mean? :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== She Hulks She-Hulks by the Sea Shore ==

This is gonna sound super nerdy, but I think it's clear that when Strong Bad disparages the "geniuses behind She-Hulk," he's not talking about comic legends Stan Lee or John Buscema, her original creators. The more hit-or-miss John Byrne was the, uh, genius behind "The Sensational She-Hulk," the series that brought in all of the trademark fourth wall breaks and panel-walks. (For instance, sometimes, She-Hulk would face the viewpoint and shout, "Byrne!") The previous She-Hulk series, "Savage She-Hulk," and the modern She-Hulk series, simply "She-Hulk," eschew such tomfoolery. More on She-Hulk can be found [http://www.toonopedia.com/she-hulk.htm here] [[User:67.100.125.201|67.100.125.201]] 06:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Please do not ever worry about sounding super nerdy. Remember, we're making an encyclopedia about [[Glossary#D|dumb animal characters]]. You've given us some very good information here, and I'm sure we will be able to use it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::Which I did. What say you to the revision, 67? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I say it's pretteh ni-ice! Good job. [[User:68.167.251.224|68.167.251.224]] 06:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC) (same person, exciting new IP address due to internet problems a few days ago)

==Not a tan==
In Goofs:
''"In his comic, Strong Badman has a visible tan, but when he appears in the Computer Room and at the end, he has the same skin color as Strong Bad."''
That wasn't a tan, that's a style artists use to show detail through '''shadows'''. --'''Not a User'''

==Say hello to my li'l friend==
Does anyone else think that the tacklebox line in the Senor Cardgage egg is a reference to the ''Scarface'' line: "Say hello to my li'l friend"? It seems like you were supposed to think that, but what you expected didn't happen. Anyone else agree? --'''Not a User'''

== Singing Off Keeeeeeyyy!!! ==

I want to add a note that Old-Timey Strong Bad is wincing when Stinkoman is singing because he is singing off-key, but I'm not sure how to word it. Can anyone help? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Doesn't look like a wince too much to me. And he's not off-key, nor all that out of tune. In fact, I reverted a comment in the transcript itself saying Stinkoman was singing out of tune. He's really no farther off pitch than Strong Bad ever is.
:Perhaps what people are thinking is this - the notes Stinkoman sings are:
<pre>
C D E F D A
I hope it's from a girl
</pre>

:And that last A is over a dominanttype harmony. Now, that's actually pretty common in this anthem-style rock, but I can see how the listener would expect a nice clean G there. Stil, not out of tune in TBC standards by a long shot, and OTSB's little lean and turn becoming a wince is a stretch to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:: It certainly made me wince. It's at least a quarter-step sharp. It's a lot more out of toon than Strong Bad usually is.
:::Well, it's less obvious with Strong Bad because he has a very low voice, he kinda grumbles. Still, even if we objectively think it's out of tune (and certainly it's not "off-key", if it's a quarter tone) we still have to decide if it's relevant to the transcript. I say nah. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I assumed OTSB was wincing because Stinkoman was singing very loudly, and right in OTSB's ear (if you can call it that).[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Although I think he is a little bit out of tune, I don't think Old-timey winces because of that. He is singing pretty loud. - frldgf v2.13

== Who wanted.. ==

Senor Cardgage to adopt Strong Bad? i was kinda feeling sad for SB when he got voip'd. --[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 10:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== What's the tune? ==

I can ''almost'' place the tune that Casio VX-bad is playing in the final song, but not quite. Anyone want to clue me in? And if you know, is it worth a mention on the page?

:It's already mentioned [[Keyboard Strong Bad|where it should be]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::It's exactly the start of the demo song from the Casio VL-tone.

:::I had a Concertmate-350. Was clearly that demo tune. Don't know if it has an offical name.

== Can somebody explain this... better? ==

The entry: ''This email introduces a new 'ridiculously huge when it's closed' frame to [[Stinkoman]]'s mouth animation.'' isn't very clear. It seems to me it's talking about the actual flash frames. But really, that's all I can tell. It's not something I distinctly remember from the email, nor do I get a clear picture of what it's talking about without having to go back and play the email again. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:I think it's talking about how he has a new smile added to his mouth movements. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's an improvement on the way the sentiment was ''first'' worded, "This is the first time we've seen Stinkoman smile." After I reverted that, thinking of the many times he laughs, I realized the writer meant "smile ''whith his mouth closed''." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Funniest word ever? ==
HELLOTE --[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

Nope - Sblounskched

== ALL of the dopplegangers? ==

I'm guessing TBC wanted all dopplegangers in this sbemail, but, I believe they missed two. Did they include Lil' SB and "Both my pixels" SB? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the variation ommisions have [[Talk:alternate universe#No Little Strong Bad|already been brought up]]. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fun Fact Cleanup ==

I removed a bunch of fun facts for various reasons:

*Strong Bad mentioned real fruit smoothies earlier in [[mascot]].

So what? It's not like that's really at all relevant.

*The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].

...among other places. And it's a standard cartoony sound effect.

*"Super Group" is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]].

Likely coincidence. Not particularly noteworthy.

*"Number 1 jam" is a phrase previously used in [[time capsule]].

And it's been used more times since then.

*Old-Timey Strong Bad previously used the word "Doppelgänger" to refer to Strong Bad in [[flashback]].

Are we going to mention every time someone repeats something from the past?

*Stinkoman's lyric "I hope it's from a girrrrrrrl!" is probably a reference to Strong Bad's desire for female emailers, as mentioned in the [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email rap]] of [[dragon]].

No kidding.

Just a heads up. If anyone disagrees, just go ahead and re-add the stuff I removed. That's the beauty of a wiki, after all. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Speaking of Fun Facts, should it be meantioned somewhere (if not) That Homestar was trying to make a health/muscle-gain smoothie? Some people may not get that. I mean, if they don't, they'll be wondering why Homestar wants a green smoothie with all this weird atuff, and blah blah blah, yada yada yada, I think I should go get some pants. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
*I agree with most of those except the last one; I think that one is notable enough to point out, so I re-added it :) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::If you ask me, of the fun facts I removed, that's among the most obvious and mundane. Of course that's what it's referring to, but is it *really* necessary to note the obvious, that Strong Bad much prefers e-mails from females? -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::...yes. As these are the only two times (to my knowledge) that it is actually said that female emailers are preferred. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:38, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::But it's clearly in the nature of the character to desire the lady types. That's what makes this un-notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::[[long pants|"And if I email you, girl! Woman! Oh, would you email me, girl? Woman?"]] -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Also of note: [[brianrietta]] and [[sisters]]. And, of course, [[current status]], [[marzipan]], [[dreamail]]... And those're just off the top of my head. Different context, but all display Strong Bad's desire for female companionship. So, yes, it's a reference, but to a character's personality trait, not one specific e-mail. It's natural for his character that he'd prefer to get e-mails from women. It's almost like making a comment stating "Strong Bad called Strong Sad "dumpus" because he doesn't like him." -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention in [[Strong Bad#Character Video Transcript|his character video]], SB wants all the ladies to form a line to one side for make-out sessions. Then you've got [[2 emails]], where no ladies showed up! (Backwards!) Oh! And then there was the time in [[privileges]] where he went "EEEEE-MAIL ME GIRL! Once times! Twice times!" ... basically, it's just part of his character. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Which is why we have pages like [[Strong Bad's Ladies]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::::I guess I just don't understaaaaand the ladies. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== They Might Be Giants reference? ==

Ok, maybe I have too much [[They Might Be Giants]] on the brain, but I found a pretty much TMBG refrence. I know you guys said the thing about the backwards speaking refrence, and how it's a refrence to something else. I forget the song, but they "fake" sing backwards... it's pretty weird, and it's what I thought of when Homestar was talking like that. You can search it on TMBW, it'll say... Sorry, I'm probably annoying you guys. =) --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, I've heard of a guy that ''does'' sing a song backwards. I have no name, though. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::I Weird Al's video, Amish Paradise, he is shown walking to the camera while barnyard animals walk backwards as well as other people. Al recorded the scene walking backwards and memorized how to lip-sync to the backward lyrics. Given this example, The Simpsons (See above on this page) refernece and They Might Be Giants, the backwards talk became TTATOT, therefor - No fact. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::No fact except Twin Peaks, you mean, to which it is most definitely a reference. For the record, TMBG used backwards lyrics twice: [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Hide_Away_Folk_Family Hide Away Folk Family], which was faked and sounded like nonsense whichever way you played it, and [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Subliminal Subliminal], which just played the entire last chorus backwards at the end of the song. As for the guy who does sing backwards, I don't know his name, but I remember he first appeared on America's Funniest Home Videos something like ten years ago. They were so impressed that they brought him in to make a video that they aired on the show later. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::::And then there's "On Earth My Nina," which was written by John Linnell listening to a live recording of "Thunderbird" backward and transcribing what he thought it sounded like. [[User:68.104.201.53|68.104.201.53]] 07:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== what was wrong with what i added? ==

The sentences about the doppleganger and cacodemon?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== this cartoon has little to no continuity ==

HR.com cartoons make no pretense at continuity. A character can appear in Strong Bad's imagination, then in the past, then in the "real world". Making great efforts to explain what devices would be needed to make sense of the (lack of) continuities (time machines versus alternate reality machines) is stupid. I suppose you monkeys would also like to have a debate about what kind of magnetic levitation machines Marzipan and Homestar use to move things around, and the special sensors Strong Bad has in his boxing gloves to be able to type, and whether or Homsar is a zombie since he was killed in his first appearance, and [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_132.html how many angels can dance on the point of a needle]. come on. It's a cartoon. Just enjoy it, accept it. [[User:66.188.99.244|66.188.99.244]] 02:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps not, but the fact that both this and [[2 emails]] mention putting a Game Boy in a blender and using it to travel through time, or into alternate realities... it is obviously a ''reference'', even if it's not an attempt at continuity, and we would be foolish not to mention it as a H*R encyclopaedia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:By the by, thanks for calling the posters "monkeys"; people really respect your opinion when you insult them. Thumbs up, IP Hero. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 13:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::And, amusingly, the first debate mentioned has [[Talk:Lack of Visible Arms|already been had]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Modest Mouse reference ==

I think Old-Timey Strong Bad's show is a refrence to Modest Mouse's EP ''Everywhere and His Nasty Parlour Tricks''.--[[User:Cow Abductor|Cow Abductor]] 02:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:Disagree'd! Parlor tricks is too common a phrase to assume a connection there. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== transcript ==

Somebody read through this transcript. You'll find it's really awkward to get through because of the {comments} everywhere. Honestly, nobody cares whether or not Old-Timey Strong Bad turned left or right. It doesn't need to be pixel-perfect. I'd prefer it read well. [[User:86.136.82.105|86.136.82.105]] 12:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:It reads fine. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, here's a question. There's a portion of the transcript that waffles between

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! ''{jumps off the stool and towards the swirl}'' Jump!

and

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee!

''{He jumps off the stool and towards the swirl.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jump!

I understood the rule to be that if it's only a few words, leave the action inline, but if it's a lot, split it. This seems to be a split situation, but is it? And what really IS the rule?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:I think this case should be a single line because Strong Bad says "Jump!" almost immediately after "Ohbee Kaybee!" His jumping off the stool happens at almost exactly the same time - just a little after, but close enough that we might even be able to get away with:

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! Jump!

''{Strong Bad jumps off the stool and towards the swirl. Then something happens. You know the rest.}''

:{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

::To quote the standards:
<blockquote>If a character does something while speaking a line of dialogue, or if more description is needed for their manner of speaking or inflection (e.g. if they're singing or whispering) the action (if it is not too long to describe in a few words) can be enclosed in curly braces — { } — and made italic, like this: {goes to the refrigerator}. Note that the curly braces themselves are also italic. Short actions like these do not need to be proper sentences.</blockquote>
::So if you're going to stick actions within dialogue, it needs to be...
* A few words long.
* Not a complete sentence.
* Relating to the speaking character.
::In this case, I think the action is a little too long for my tastes. :S I'm fine with both the 'Jump'-being-a-single-line version and KieferSkunk's solution. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Although I've zealously hunted down situations that ''need'' bumping onto new lines, I also agree with anonny's point that we should avoid breaking up the flow as much ''as possible''. I'd like the rule of thumb "If you have to use a full sentence to describe the action, it should get a new line. ''But if you '''can''' describe it in a sentence fragment, do!''" —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Cheat Mashes a lot of buttons. ==

Strong Bad tells The Cheat to "mash go on that blender!". In [[Everybody Knows It]], Homestar tells The Cheat to "mash play on that jambox.". Possible reference? - [[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]] 03:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:We think so, it's already listed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman Training ==

Vector Strong Bad being Stinkoman's training problem was a good idea. I wonder if they will make a game like that?
-zyborg

== Question ==

How could you guys know the name of the email before you even found out what it was?
:We don't. The email's name is released at the same time as the email, so we find out right away. If you can't see it, you need to refresh your cache. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
::If anybody is interested at all, the name of the e-mail was originally grabbed from rando.xml. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::And, since the email menu is generated by reading rando.xml, if you cleared your cache the new email would have been in the list (reading rando.xml directly is simply quicker). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
No no. Listen. Alternate Universe wasn't on the sbemail menu at the time, so how could you guys possibly know what is was?
:As was said, they hack into rando.xml and read it there. If your cache didn't pick up on the new rando.xml version, it would not appear in the menu. But it was added to rando.xml anyway. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::alternate universe *was* in the sbemail menu at the time. If you didn't see it it's because your computer had it cached, and you just needed to clear your cache and it would be there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Text size ==

I've removed
<blockquote>
*When all of the Strong Bads are warping in, the bottom half of the text on the Lappy is bigger and darker than the upper half, which is normal.
</blockquote>
from ==Goofs==, because technically it is a Flash artifact – if you zoom in, you'll see that the text is in fact normal. The result has something to do with Flash's [[Wikipedia:Anti-aliasing|anti-aliasing]] engine... I'm not sure exactly what the cause is, probably something to do with the [[Wikipedia:Moiré effect|Moiré effect]], but I'm not sure. Anyways, I'm in two minds about this... on one hand it's clearly a Flash artifact, but on the other it's a noticable glitch when you watch the email normally (no viewing the Flash file, no seek bars, nothing)... I also can't think of a way to word it properly to put it in ==Glitches==... any thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== SENOR CARDGAGE ==

Anyone really know why Senor Cardgage sang "let the children go"?
I find it quite freaky... [[User:Hornet|Cupcake]] 15:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:The same reason Senor Cardgage says anything... because he's a weird, weird, crazy man. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
This may be late but Senor Cardgage's line sounds more to me like "Let the little childrens know", since I cannot hear the G sound and it fits well with the next line "I hope they don't a splode". [[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 03:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Big Nose? No Nose? ==

Stinkoman called Strong Bad "Big Nose" after a practice test in the Strong Bad Zone. What does Stinkoman mean by "Big Nose"? Does Strong Bad have a nose? If so, what is it? Is it his jewel? Is it his silver plate? [[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]
:As it says on the article – "big nose" is an Asian term for westeners. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::From Real-World References:
::<blockquote>Stinkoman calls Strong Bad "big nose", a derogatory term used in eastern Asia to describe Westerners, whose noses tend to be genetically larger than Asians'.</blockquote>
::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Isn't [[Coach Z]] a Westerner? I think on Coach Z's wiki page, it says that he speaks in a Western accent. Strong Bad's english, isn't he?

[[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]

:In this context, "Westerner" refers to people living west of Eastern Asia, that is in the view of the Asians. People of European descent, specifically. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, "Westener" or "Occidental" in the sense of "Western Hemisphere", not "Western America" - usually referring to West Europe, North America (and, strangely, Australia... we seem to break the mould on a lot of these general terms...). As opposed to "Eastener" or "Oriental", usually referring to East Asia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

What I think is it's a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python's_Life_of_Brian Monty Python's Life of Brian], since it's a running gag in the film for characters to call each other big nose. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

== Easter egg #1 ==

you guys shoud add that homestar "backwards" voice look like the voice of homsar...
:Yeah, I see what you mean. It's not quite the kind of thing we put in articles, though. But now at least it's mentioned ''here''! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

==Where doth the Cheat go??==
Where does the Cheat, the stool and the wormhole disappear to? Like, did the Cheat
turn into Sterrance?

{{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 20:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

what probaly happend is when homestar came in the room, the cheat left. homestar on the otherhand, he "turned into" sterrance. as for the stool and portal... who knows.

:The stool was affected early on presumably by the portal, we don't know why. The Cheat likely left when things started getting weird, and Homestar likely was transported out, not changed to Sterrance. That's my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:42, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::The stool is weird... it appears and disappears at various times. Homestar is transported out, as seen by him transporting in to the Coach Z easter egg, The portal unwinds, the same as it appears - if you look closely it just unspirals after Homestar disappears. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Save the last email for Strong Bad... ==

OMG! I loved that song. I don't know why, but I did. I hope they post an MP3 version on the site.

== Outsiders reference you voted down ==

I'm sorry, guys, but in the context Strong Bad used the word "tuff" in, that was a reference to ''The Outsiders.'' I don't care if 25 people voted against it. I'm gonna use the same logic that all you people who tried to use against me in Change of Pace...just because you don't want something to be a reference doesn't mean it is. (Yeah, and vice versa- big deal.) But this was as obvious a reference as there has been in a while. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:But there is overwhelming evidence against you. Think about that, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Well, first off, the reference doesn't make much sense. If he meant "tuff" as in "sharp", why would he come up with "Bulldozer"... last I checked, they aren't very pointy. Secondly, unless "kool" is also used in ''The Outsiders'', it's a bit more of a stretch – why would he intentionally mispell "cool" with no reference to anything, and then intentionally mispell "tough" with a reference to something else? Besides, do a search for "[[Google:tuff|tuff]]" on Google, you'll find [http://www.tuffshed.com/ many] [http://www.tufffemme.com/ examples] [http://www.tuffstuff.net/ of] [http://www.tuffcountry.com/ the] [http://www.tuffboat.com/ word] being used to mean "tough" (btw these examples were all on the first page, and ''all in a row''). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:08, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Another question: how else ''could'' you misspell "tough"? Okay, "tuph" comes to mind, but that's about it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Firstly, I was thinking about the evidence. And regardless, it doesn't change my mind, Qermaq. Kool isn't used in the book, Phlip, but it's the context it was used in that I have my argument with. As far as I'm concerned, the reference was legitimate. That may not hold up with the results of the voting, but it's my opinion and the discussion is closed. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, then your opinion is respectfully noted. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::''{edit conflict}'' And you have every right to do so. I mean, I've disagreed with a ''lot'' of STUFF verdicts. As long as you accept that the result of the vote decides what goes on the page, you can hold whatever opinion you want about references to ''The Outsiders'', Family Guy, what have you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Go vs. Grow? ==

In the closing song, on Senor Cardgage's solo, does anyone else hear him say, "Let the little children '''grow'''" rather than "go?"

*I did hear him say "grow" initially...but I've replayed that line over and over and now I'm sure he's saying "go". -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 19:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::To be honest, I can't make it out at all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:::At first, I heard "roam", but now I hear either "glow" or "flow". The problem is that none of these possibilites rhyme with "splode". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Not really a problem (songs don't have to rhyme), but it sure would have made it easier to decipher. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Flex it, flex it, shoulder stance... ==

*I noticed the blue panel on the bottom of the Strong Badman comics has a line that says "work it out!". Why does that feel like a reference to [[lady fan]]...or at least the part where Homestar is featured in the Buck Webb comic? -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 19:14, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Doesn't match any dialogue in [[lady fan]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't think it has to match any dialogue to reference [[lady fan]]. The fact that [[lady fan]] had a section where Homestar was in a comic panel with a speech bubble regarding exercise is enough to be somewhat of a reference. I don't think it's enough for it to be mentioned on the article's main page, but I definitely believe that's where the unseen panel is derived from. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Not the realest Strong Bad? ==

Now, I might be reading too much into the e-mail, but everybody else does, so I'm-a gonna join the party! Anyways, since animated Strong Bad appeared with really true-to-life Strong Bad, are we to believe they're not the same entity? Or maybe Real Bad lives in an alternate universe where everything that ever happened to Flash Bad happened to him. But that's just me supposin' out loud. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:Or maybe that Puppet Strong Bad is a different one than the one in, like, Biz Cas Fri. Who knows? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Of course, if they are both the "real" Strong Bad, it wouldn't be [[pizzaz|the first time we've seen two of him]]. Just thought I'd observe that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait—I just remembered that what Strong Bad is visiting here is ''alternate universes''. In one of them, he's a puppet—''this'' one! (Now, if you want your 4th wall really turned inside out, he should have visited a universe in which he can watch TBC drawing him. And maybe try his hand at it himself.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, there's two of them! (This isn't really contributing much, but I like the quote.) - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Left Handed ==

Based on the way Strong Sad hold his guitar, he might be left handed. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 21:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Say hello to my [[Left Handedness|little friend]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::The [[Left Handedness]] article doesn't discuss the evidence that Strong Sad is right-handed or ambidextrous, which I might take care of later. For now I'll take the opportunity to mention that for an ambidextrous person to choose a left-handed guitar would be pretty weird. They're something of an oddity; even many southpaws opt to learn right-handed technique just because it's more common. So for someone we know can write with his right hand to be seen at one time with a [[Sketchbook#SK-2006-03-02|right-handed guitar]], then suddenly with a left-handed guitar, is difficult to reconcile. But not impossible, of course. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 20:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Strong Sad]]'s article mentions being ambidextrous, as he's also been seen writing with his left hand, and at other times with his right. I think that's as good a place as any for a mention, since it's more a defining trait of his character than something specific to this email. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== Old-timey audience ==

I was just watching this e-mail again, and I noticed in the "vaudeville" scene that while the audience as a whole is a fairly shapeless mass, one distinctive shape rises up from it on the lower left. Is this shape anything significant? (Well, significant enough for a wiki that exists to notice minor details like this...) It looks a bit like [[Mr. Smallow]]'s hat.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Big enough? Knife enough? ===
{{stufffact|The woman on Strong Badman's television is holding a [[Big Knife]].}}
{{stuffverdict|17:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)|23:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|25|5|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Highball pear ===
{{stufffact|The pseudo-backward pronunciation of the word "eyeball" in the Coach Z Easter egg sounds like "highball", which could be a reference to [[radio]] and/or [[space program]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined, 24–0. A proposed revision was also overwhelmingly declined|21|9|alternate universe}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== You look burnt or DEAD ===
{{stufffact|The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].}}
{{stuffverdict|08:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|26|9|alternate universe}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== And they won the game... ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad previously mentioned "real fruit smoothies" in [[mascot]] when the team won the game.}}
{{stuffverdict|07:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|7|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== No problem STUFFing this one ===
{{stufffact|The phrase "No prob, Bob" is frequently used on the show [[Wikipedia:Bob the Builder|Bob the Builder]].}}
{{stuffverdict|04:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|17:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined (patently false)|13|1|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== A tuff STUFF ===
{{stufffact|The use of the word "tuff" may be a reference to the novel ''The Outsiders''. In it, most characters use the word "tuff", meaning "cool" or "sharp".}}
{{stuffverdict|20:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)|17:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|25|2|alternate universe}}

== Dry T-Shirt Contest ==

Maybe when Strong Bad refers to the 'Dig To China With Your Ears Contest' as "the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of", one of the worse contests is the Dry T-Shirt Contest, as featured in [[bottom 10]]. Since this is in Strong Bad's Bottom Ten of everything, you could reason that it would be worse than the other proposed contests. [[User:Aether|Aether]] 11:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:See [[Contests]]. There's a lot of other bad contests out there that Strong Bad could have been referring to, but we kept it to the Ten-Step Footrace from [[flashback]] and the Strongest Man in the World Contest from the [[Original Book]], as those two contests also took place in the storybook universe and were likely the ones he was referring to. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Jumpin the shark ==

I thought that this SBEmail was kind of dumb. Has Homestar jumped the shark? -guest
:Gee, if you didn't like this one, I don't know what to say. I might remind you that you got your money's worth. Many fans have already named this one of their favorites. But a call of "jumping the shark" requires some gimmick to have been employed which is beyond the pale, and I don't see evidence of that. Nothing in this one is any more or less odd than any other email, in my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Dear guest, this page is for discussing changes to the article. Please direct those kinds of comments to our [[Forum:7671|forum]]. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:23, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Last Sbemail? ==

I'm kinda scared that this was the last sbemail of them all...
when it said, "Save the last Email for Strong Bad"...
Does anyone think that this is the last sbemail???

I really hope it isn't!

-[DHO]RABB

:I thougbt that too until today when [[senior prom]] was released.

== The Pit of Despair! Don't even think-- ==

Another of those little things where something in a cartoon reminds me of something, but it wouldn't be a good Fun Fact: On my most recent viewing, the way Homestar clears his throat and resumes talking normally after his backward-talking reminded me of the moment in ''The Princess Bride'' where the albino talks in a stereotypical scary hiss for the beginning of the line (in this subject heading), then clears his throat and continues in an anticlimactic normal voice. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:In the audio commentary on the DVD for that movie, Rob Reiner said that it was inspired a commercial he saw once, where a "native american" was chanting in the steretypical low/raspy voice, then had a cough drop or something and did the same chant in a very bland/white voice. It's a versatile gag, I don't think it should be considered exclusive to TPB. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 05:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Deutschman?!? ==

Has no one yet discovered that upon freezing Strong Bad's fall in the Strong Badman section of the email, and viewing the third pannel he passes, one may discover a shocking vista of The Deutschman, exclaiming "Kinder Uberraschung!!" Thus, I find it very important that The Deutschman be included in the Cast section of this page. Or Deutschman gets his own page or something.

This warrents noting, methinks. Also, the second pannel is a non-exciting "Tadaow!" in a spikey exclamation bubble. Le Boring. —[[User:AlexDitto|AlexDitto]] 22:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:We're [[1 step ahead|one step ahead]] of you, Alex. Though we chose to take it in a bit of a different direction. (Check the Trivia section.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Haha! Blast, how did I miss that? Thanks for directing me in the right direction. *Sigh*... everyone's one step ahead of me... XD —[[User:AlexDitto|AlexDitto]]

==Dangeresque==
Dangeresque never showed up. So why isn't he mentioned as not showing up?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 01:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because we don't mention a lot of the forms that didn't appear. [[Lil' Strong Bad]], for example. There are a ton of forms that didn't appear, and we can't really list them all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Black Lodge? ==

Where did we get that name?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 15:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:It's a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=alternate_universe&diff=next&oldid=301332 Twin Peaks ref], as explained in [[alternate universe#Real-World References]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Striking it Rich ==

The sound effect played when T.H.S.B. says "I struck it rich!" reminds me of, I dunno, something I'd hear in The Windwaker. Anybody else? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 14:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== e-mail or e-mair ==

I listened to the song several times, and it seems that Old-Timey Strong Bad said e-mair (ending with r).

What do you think: e-mail or e-mair?

:Maybe it's his accent or just how he talks? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Fun Fact ==

"This email is 5 minutes & 53 seconds long, and, although this may or may not have been noticed, the Lappy 486's batteries should have ran out after the first five minutes."

There's one flaw in that fact: Look in the background while Strong Bad is talking to Strong Sad, or pretty much any time it's zoomed out. The Lappy is Plugged in, and would therefore not be running off the batteries. Therefore, the battery referrence is moot. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 05:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

== Puppet Soup ==

When I saw the scene of Strong Bad mirroring the motions of his Puppet Stuff counterpart, I immediately was reminded of the classic mirror scene from the Marx Brothers' movie Duck Soup. In said scene, Chico and Harpo noisily shatter a pane of mirrored glass during an espionage mission, and must stand in the empty space and silently mimic Groucho's motions when he comes to investigate. Am I alone in thinking that might be a reference? - 23:23, 29 March 2007
:Two similar characters moving in unison doesn't necessarily make for a reference to anything, even though they're "mirror images" of each other. In the scene you're talking about (as well as a similar happening between Harpo and Lucielle Ball on a classic 1955 episode of I Love Lucy), specifically involved creating an illusion of a mirror where there was none, and at least one character being (temporarily) fooled into thinking that a mirror was there. I really don't think that the puppet segment bears any significant similarity to the Duck Soup scene. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 05:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:alternate universe

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:29:59 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Puppet Soup */

== Fourth Wall==

OW! My fourth wall! Anonny-5:36 WST

You don't say! -[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

Now we have an excuse in case there are made-up characters in the "real" HR universe... it's because Homestar was trying to make a real fruit smoothie! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:[[20X6 vs. 1936|It was Homestar's fault all along.]] >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== That's the second biggest stretch I've ever seen! ==

Would you believe I nearly added that "This is about... the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of." as a Get Smart reference? Luckily it missed the article by ''this'' much. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:It's been so long since I've seen that show, that I don't even remember that that would work. I think I was seven or eight when it was taken off Nick-at-Nite. The [[depressio|dumb and crappy]] Fox version doesn't count. I refuse to let it do so. The only things about it that I can remember were that one of his shoes was a telephone, and that the bad guys were called "Chaos". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Last SBEMail? ==

Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but given the song at the end, and the length and "recurring characters" show... anyone else think that the one who suggested a while back that SBEMail #150 might be the last of them is correct? I hope not, but if it *is*, it's quite a sendoff. I particularly liked this one. -{{User:YK/sig}} 10:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Why would The Paper tell us to send Strong Bad more emails if it was the last?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 10:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I was a little worried too. But coming to think of it, TBC are doing it for a living right? So they probably won't blow up their source of income. Cisz 12:52 CET, 04-04-06

wahhh{{User:Csours/sig}} 11:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Dudes.... this is the 150th email. Of course they're doing something special for it. --[[User:King Nintendoid|King Nintendoid]] 15:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Plus guys, SB is going to update to an inkjet printer in 23 emails, although he might not considering it's been more than two years since he proposed changes to Strong Badia. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 17:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

And Dangeresque 3 still hasn't come out yet either.
...How many times have TBC kept promises they made in earlier toons? Peasant's Quest is one, Strong Sad not being invited to the second Halloween toon is another. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:I haven't watched this yet, and now I'm sad and excited. I ''do'' hope this isn't a final SBEmail, or the end of H*R, because if it was or if there is before I get out of High School (which is about 5 more years), I'll cry my eyes out. Or at least make a petition. OFF TO THE SB EMAIL! ''{dun dun duhhh!}'' --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that they couldn't end SBemails because most of the store items are based on SBemails. They enad it and they'll lose much, much money.--[[User:Shadow6000|s6k]] 01:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

For the record... I don't think they'd end the whole site. If this is "the end", it's probably just the last SBEMail. After which, they'd start something new. But that said, it's all just speculation on my part. The ending song "Save the last e-mail for Strong Bad" kinda hinted at that, though... But, yeah, as DumDe said, it also doesn't really fit that the Paper came down at the end. Why e-mail Strong Bad if there're gonna be no more SBEMail toons? Like I said, I'm probably jumping the gun. There's no need for panic right now. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Jumping the gun about [[Wikipedia:Jumping the shark|jumping the shark]]? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheFunniestGuy]] 04:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::My goodness, this is a cash cow they're gonna ride as far as possible. Who among us would not keep doing what we love if it pays for our dry bed and warm food? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I don't know. There're some times where it seems like they're running out of ideas, then a SBEMail like this one comes along and proves me wrong. Still, it's just a feeling I had... -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::::I really don't care if people are jumping the gun. Users freak out all too easily on this website. I prefer to egg them on. Anyway, I seriously doubt it will happen (any of the stuff these guys have suggested), but when I first saw this email, this friend of mine who was watching the email with me, immediately after the paper came down, announced with no doubt in his voice, "This is the last email." --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::To me, "save the last email for Strong Bad" does not mean that this is the last email; it means that the last should be reserved for Strong Bad to answer... just because he's so awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::Like I said, don't take my initial post too seriously. It's just a feeling I happened to have after seeing the ending song, and I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way. I'm hardly "panicking". I'd be upset if that was it for the SBEMails, but I trust that even if it was, TBC would make something just as good to replace it. I doubt they'd just ditch the site altogether. How many people, after all, have the dream life they do? To be able to make good money doing something they've always loved, and from the comfort of their own homes, no less. To give it all up and get "outside" jobs would be impractical, especially when you consider that Missy is pregnant, and she'd need Mike more than ever. After all, being your own boss and able to make your own hours would be a great thing when raising kids. But... now I'm just rambling. (And no, I wasn't mocking TBC at all; Quite the contrary, actually. I really do respect them. I think they've got a great thing going for themselves, and I too would love to be able to make a living -- and make people as happy as they do -- simply doing something I love that comes completely natural to me.) Point is, even if this *is*, in fact, the last SBEMail, it's doubtful it's the end of good ol' H*R. -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::This isn't the first time people have started panicing and worrying and claiming that the good times are over. Remember [[50 emails]], [[comic]], [[flashback]], [[rock opera]] and [[portrait]]? It seems everytime they turn out a great landmark email like this one (or even take a long break), people think that they'll never make an email quite like that again. As long as people still send in emails, they'll continue to churn out toons and sbemails until the site becomes unprofitable. All we have to do now is just calm down, wait till next week and not jump out the window crying our heads off. They'll be back. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if that post of mine (back in the main page archive) scared you, YK. Even if it's the last Sbemail, I know TBC can come up with something awesome to replace it. Here's to hoping for a 151 and beyond. -[[Walking Armless]]

:Oh, it's not like that. I was just wondering if you could've possibly been correct on that notion, given the content of this SBEMail. But, hum. I suppose my post here was a pretty premature jump to conclusions, yeah. Sorry everyone. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

This is not the last SBEmail. I admit I also got pretty worried, but thinking rationally, TBC would tell us. They wouldn't leave us hanging. - frldgf v2.13

The song leads me to believe that the last e-mails will be answered by someone other than Strong Bad, and he wants to be able to answer the very last of the last, at least. Just kidding.
-Zyborg

Ya know, homestar has actually answered an e-mail in a way, and so has the cheat. -Guest

Well, turns out I was [[senior_prom|wrong]]. Excellent. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 19:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==voip==
why this went away?
 voip{{User:Csours/sig}} 13:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Anybody know whether or not VoIP is or should be considered for a running gag? I know it has also appeared in TGS (#1, I think), but I can't think of anything else. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 15:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:That's pretty clearly a coincidence. VOIP! is a good onomotapoeia for the sound effect that accompanies Strong Bad's appearance/disappearance, while VoIP is an acronym for an emerging technology that lets people talk over the Internet. The two are really not related, and nothing else in the cartoon suggests that they should be. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Da Huuuuudge ==

This is the first time we hear da huuuudge talk or speak. Okay with that, yeah? {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

There ought to be something for da huuuudge speaking, i mean its lower-class opera...i think. [[User:ArchiveMaker|ArchiveMaker]]

== Wow... ==

Loved it. I am a sucker for big-scale reunion bits. Just ''yesterday'' I was reading the [[Twin Characters]] page and thinking, "I wonder if we'll ever see Strong Bad go back in time and coexist with Old-Timey Strong Bad?". {{unsigned|Bill|12:09, 4 April, 2006 (UTC)}}
:This has now replaced [[rock opera]] as my favorite email of all-time. It pretty much more than made up for the April Fool's prank(s). {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::The first time I watched it, I literally cried with laughter. The epic anthem at the end did me in. A touchstone email - that's why I chose the pic I chose fot this email. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::It's my new favorite SBEmail too. {{User:LePorello/sig}} 14:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I also think that this is a great email, but i don't think that this is my favorite. It definetly is in the top 10 though [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 20:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== What it is, my Doge? ==

Is it worth mentioning that [[Wikipedia:Doge|Doge]] was the title of the rulers of Venice or Genoa? [[User:Silly Dan|Silly Dan]] 12:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Probably not. The word was previously used in [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] and was removed from that toon's page as a fact. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Total Load ==

I wonder what the "TOTAL LOAD" is (one of the ingredients of Homestar's "real fruit smoothie"). Is it [[Wikipedia:Whey protein|whey protein]], or some similar nutritional supplement? At least, that's what [[:Image:Fruit smoothie.png|the container]] [http://www.affordablesupplements.com/pure_whey_protein_stack.jpg looks like] to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's Mayonaise, for some unknown reason.. --[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 14:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Mayonnaise? No, given the context and its appearance, I think it is clearly meant to represent a tub of weight-gain protein powder such as you would find at GNC or a high-priced gym. I'm intrigued by the "Total Load" label, though. As far as I can tell, this is not an actual brand name—I'd be surprised if it were. But the phrase sounds familiar, like it was an insult somebody used... somewhere... sometime... --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::Perhaps you were thinking of Jeffery Parsons' work on [http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/faculty/parsons/OCEAN542/total.pdf sediment delivered to the mouth of a river]. ''';)''' {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Nah, I was probably thinking of the [[Wikipedia:External electrical load|combined impedances of speaker drivers wired in series]]. Or more likely, I was thinking of one of the death messages from [[Wikipedia:Space Quest|Space Quest III]]: "Thanks, you've been a real pantload." --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Or maybe "[[A Folky Tale|Man, Strong Sad, that's a real load right there. ''A real load!'']]"... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::Given HSR's love of all things crapesque, perhaps "Total Load" has an assumed [of crap.] notreallyauser 11:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]] ==

Anybody find it strange they would use TWO of the Made-Up Strong Bad Animals (Sterrence and Da Huuuuuudge), yet have no mention of the Monstrosity, Deep Sea Fangly Fish, The Red Steckled Elbermung, etc. I guess they really liked Da Huuuuuudge or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, how can you not like Da Huuuuuudge? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The El Pardack and Red Steckled Elbermung were just pictures, so I don't think they had much of a chance. As for the others... I guess we didn't need too many variations from a single email. A single zoo scene with them all would've been great, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::My guess is that they rejected the Fangly Fish because it's a [[Powered by The Cheat]] thing (and it's a fish, which would need to live underwater). As for El Pardack and the Elbermung: Yep, both pictures. Never got anywhere. And the Monstrosity was Strong Bad himself with alterations, rather than a different incarnation of Strong Bad, so it probably didn't count. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I do think that it is weird to use 2 made up animals, but Sterence and Da Huuuuuudge didn't appear at the same time at all. [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 20:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Voice ==

Did anyone else think Coach Z's voice was off in this cartoon?
-Ben Mo
:Not really; I think he's just supposed to sound really freaked out/panicked in that scene... it's pretty similar to how he sounded when he thought he "killed" Strong Sad in Folky Tales. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Music ==

"The music in the Strong Badman comic is from [[action figure]]."

Wasn't it also reused in [[suntan]], and should this be noted?[[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, it was. And it was also reused in [[army]], as well. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:Maybe I'm misremembering (as it's been a looong time since I've played them), but isn't it the music from Doom or Quake or one of those old FPS's? I was just listening to this SBEmail (not watching), and it sure sounded like it.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:33, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage Fishing Easter Egg-- Connection? ==

The odd "echo" sound effect heard in the fishing easter egg is also used in the first episode of the mockumentary TV series "Fishing with John", by actor/musician John Lurie.

I'm assuming that this is a stock sound effect, and simply a coincidence. To my knowledge, the similarities end with the sound itself and "fishing". But as a fan of both homestarrunner.com and Fishing with John, it made me laugh.

Fishing with John seems like the kind of indie/cult television show that ''could'' be referenced by HSR, though.

Anyone else think of this?

- C

: Well, the same sound effect was used in the "Fishing with Coach Z" segment in [[lures & jigs]], I'd say it was probably intentional (check out the commentary transcript for that email). {{User:Saturn/sig}}

Haha! That's so awesome. I haven't viewed lures & jigs since before I got my hands on Fishing with John.

- C

::The scene also seems similar to the fisherman from [[Peasant's Quest]].

- C

:::This particular sound is coming from a Casio SK-1, using the built-in "human voice" instrument. [http://www.synthmania.com/Keyboards/Casio/SK-1/Sounds/Factory%20sound%20examples/human%20voice.mp3] The SK-1 was often used in early toons, and in most Halloween toons, for the organ or ghostly sounds. The Cheat was seen playing on a modified SK-1 in a few toons, and the actual keyboard appeared in a puppet movie.

==No Little Strong Bad==

Not only is their no PBTC Strong Bad, but there isn't any Little Strong Bad, from [[flashback]] and [[highschool]]
:[[Atari Strong Bad]] is missing as well, as are any self portraits of him in Teen Girl Squad. Four of the made up animals are vacant also. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::And plus, there's no [[highschool|Strongbadiophage]]. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

===List of missing Variations===
*PBTC - Does not exist in an alternate reality, Strong Bad has watched the toons of himself before.
*[[Little Strong Bad]] and Baby Strong Bad - It was an alternate reality machine, not a time machine.
*[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]] - Just Sterrence would have made more sense, but I guess they liked Da Huuuudge enough to represent him too.
*[[Atari Strong Bad]] - All video games represented by Vector.
*Self Portraits, Drawings, Etc - They aren't supposed to be alive or anything, just a portrait.
*Strongbadiophage - Yeah, he could have been there. But also represented by Teenage Strong Bad.
*[[Teen Girl Squad]] - Presumably, the comic variations are represented by Strong Badman. Also, as with PBTC, it does not exist in an alternate reality; Strong Bad made them himself. What's more, they technically are drawings.
*The [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] version - Again, it's an alternate reality machine, not a time machine. It's one of the earliest forms of the Strong Bad as we know him today.

Seems like there's plausible reasons for missing variations by my viewpoint. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I understand all of those reasons except PBTC. Seriously, why does it have to be made be Strong Bad? It's an alternate version! He even features on the Everybody Everybody poster. It seemed like you just wanted to find some sort of reason and "It was made by The Cheat" was the only thing you could come up with.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 20:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:The second and last point above - they did include Teenage Strong Bad, so that argument is moot. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::Also, PBTC's idea is disproved by the fact that they included Old-Timey Strong Bad. An obvious choice, yes, but Strong Bad still didn't create him. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Maybe they wanted to keep the repetition to a minimum? Sterrance and Da Huuuuuudge is the only instance where they've got 2 from the same email... including the extra variations from [[animal]], [[highschool]], [[video games]], etc... would only make it repetitive and cluttered (how many jokes can you make with Secret Collect Strong Bad?) Tbird's reason for PbTC still stands – every alternate variation in the email was made by Strong Bad in one of the emails, PbTC was not. Which leaves his depictions in TGS, etc, which are actually supposed to be Strong Bad himself, not an alternate universe version. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::: Not so - Old-Timey Strong Bad predates the SBEmails and Puppet Strong Bad made his debut long before his email debut ([[Real-Live E-Mails]]). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, my PBTC reasoning was explained crappily. I fixed it. Here's also a whole new can of worms... [[User:Thunderbird|Thunderbird]] 07:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hm. The only problem with the revised PBTC Strong Bad explanation is that... couldn't the same logic apply to Keyboard Strong Bad? Granted, we never see him *watching* Sweet Cuppin Cakes, but the fact that Eh! Steve and the Wheelchair have appeared in Teen Girl Squad (though I don't know if Homestar Runner Pay Plus would be considered canon) means that they too were just "created" by Strong Bad, and not based solely on his imagination, per se. Eh, that was pretty badly worded, but I hope it makes *some* sense. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:You said that it's an alternate reality machine, not a time machine. Well, how do you explain The Strong Bad?
Hey, maybe Strongbadiophage ''was'' there, but just too small to be seen. ;) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::If Strongbadiophage was there, Strong Bad would probably have shrunk down to his size to meet him. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Say, one character that wasn't mentioned... [[pop-up|Senor Muybueno]]. Ok, so that's not a big deal...but, heh, it's a character we missed. Or does it count as a "self-portrait"? -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, it would have cool if they did a pop-up world. Though it might end up being too much like the Strong Badman comic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Also there was no Catlefunnies Strong Bad or Dangeresque. But Dangeresque I can understand. {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:Dangeresque was *sorta* there. Strong Bad wears his Dangeresque sunglasses in the scene where "Tiny-Handed Strong Bad" is "digging to China with his ears". I'm fairly certain that was an intentional Dangeresque reference. -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

What about the Teen Girl Squad variations? None of those ones are here either. I guess as with the PBTC versions, they don't exist in an alternate reality; Strong Bad made them himself, so they basically count as drawings. However, here's what I think should have happen if they did include a TGS scene: Strong Bad sees his TGS form making out with the hot version of The Ugly One, as seen in Issue 10. He then proceeds to make out with her himself, only to disappear suddenly. Strong Bad himself makes the disappearing noise. I think that's how it would happen if Strong Bad mets his TGS form. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not like Strong Bad would actually visit every single alternate universe, you know. He probably only ended up in a few, and um... the rest were offscreen durring the song and had no solos. yah.

===Characters that shouldn't have been there===

*Old-Timey Strong Bad - Exists in the past, not an alternate realty. Explained in the 100th email, with him mailing half a mustache to SB.
*Senor Cardgage - Seen around FCUSA often. Unless that was supposed to be creepy comb over Strong Bad.
:From [[Senor Mortgage]]'s toon description: ''Wait. Is Senor Cardgage real?!'' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
*Keyboard Strong Bad - watched, and admited created by Strong Bad in Decemberween in July.

So in conclusion, the whole thing doesn't make much sense, and we shouldn't read into it too much. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

What? Are you talking about? I mean...what are you talking about? OTSB should definitely be there. The interdimensional portal was invented in the exact same was as Homestar's time machine, which means that the portal would no doubt function as a time machine as well to some extent. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Umm, when talking about alternate universes in Homestar Runner, you just can't leave out Old-Timey. It's just...wrong. Even if he "shouldn't be there because he was in the past and not a new dimension", Old-Timey Strong Bad just HAD to be in an email talking about alternate universes. It would make less sense for him NOT to be used. Get what I'm saying?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

: I don't think there's any rhyme or reason behind the Strong Bads they chose. I think they just picked the variations they found most interesting or liked most. BTW, while I can kinda see an argument against Cardgage and Old-Timey, I don't see why Keyboard Strong Bad would be an exception any more than, say, Stinkoman or Sterrance, people that FCUSA's Strong Bad also blatently invented. --[Jay, not logged in] 19:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==USA For Africa==

The concept of them all singing together seems to be similar to [[Wikipedia:USA for Africa|USA for Africa]], where they got together pop music superstars and had them sing together to raise money to help the poor in Africa. Their most notable song was "We Are the World".

:Yeah I agree. I think the reference was pretty obvious and I was surprised to not find it in the Real-World Refrences section already.

::I've reverted edits to extend this to Live Aid and other later ones. Really, this is the original, and it's also a US effort (many oyher were British) and this is a US cartoon. So let's not keep adding other events making this TTATOT. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Universe Creator ==
You know, most of the universes Strong Bad visited were fantasies that he was supposed to have made up. (animal, highschool, etc) Does Strong Bad create an alternate universe every time he thinks up some new characters or time periods? The mystery continues! >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps each of us creates an alternate universe when we imagine. Pretty deep, eh? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Or perhaps we all exist in an alternate reality created by the imagination of somebody else. Perhaps even a "Strong Bad" somewhere. Pretty deep...er, eh? (It had to be said) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Or maybe it's all fate... we can only imagine things that already exist in alternate realities, and although we think we're making stuff up ourselves, we're actually just getting insight on something that's perfectly real. >.> Pretty de....ouch. Hit rock bottom. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Perhaps all the things we experience as "real" are just shadows on the wall of a cave that we watch as we sit chained to a chair with our backs to the opening of the cave into the Real World. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Dang, this is like the dream discussion from the SBEMail150!?!?! page. We all ought to be philosophers or something. Anyway, maybe our "reality" is only the dream of one small child in the REAL reality, and her world is only the dream of another small child, therefore expanding out into infinate dreams and worlds and realities and...I need to get some sleep. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 22:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe we're all just a bunch of kids with really big heads and enormous imaginations? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} (pretending to be working) 00:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I always thought an alternate universe was one where you don't have to spell correctly and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down. -[[User:Compdude|Compdude]]
:::::::: Compdude, thanks for ruining a perfectly good philosophical discussion... I was really interested in what they were saying... [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 01:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Real-World References==
*The description of shadows on a cave wall comes from an [[Wikipedia:Allegory of the cave|allegory]] told by [[Wikipedia:Plato|Plato]] in ''[[Wikipedia:Republic (Plato)|The Republic]]''.

== Eyeball Pear ==

I just realized- we finally have the answer as to whether that eyeball pair used googly eyes or not! It's like they read our minds. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:Or at least read our discussions. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Which is why I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_150%3F%21%3F&diff=prev&oldid=301121 taking credit] for that shot. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Oba Kaybe ==

Is it worth mentioning that Bill Cosby also used this phrase on an episode of The Cosby Show? Most people would be more likely to have heard it on the show than on Himself.
:Actually, I thought it was a catchphrase of one of the Fat Albert characters, wasn't it? Which I ''think'' would make it older than Himself. (There's an unusual concept...) But what I'm more concerned about is the inconsistency between the phrase in the Transcript and the phrase in the Fun Fact. I'm not in a position to do any careful listening right now. When I am, I'm going to take a closer look at this thing from several angles. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::It's how Mushmouth would say "okay". I've added this to the Fun Fact, but it could use some editing. {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::When he said it on Himself, it was in a dentist routine. The dentist aske the patient (who's been complaining that thanks to the novocaine, his bottom lip is on the floor) to spit. I'll start from the line right before the one we're talking about. '''DENTIST:''' Give it a try. '''PATIENT:''' Gib bit a trby? Oba kaybe! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I thought it was a common expression, like okey-dokey or kawinky-dink. And it's pronouinced oh-bee kay-bee. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It is a fairly common expression these days, but I'm reasonably sure it started with Mushmouth even if most people don't realize it. Since SB's pronunciation is clearly "ohbee kaybee", I've discarded the reference to Himself. (If memory serves, ACupOfCoffee's report of the pronunciation in that routine is accurate, but it has been a ''long'' time since I've heard it.) --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Missing Limbs ==
I think the ears and nose thing with Strong Bad is another instance of Missing Limbs (ex. Homestar, Marzipan, KoT, etc.) but not just 'limbs'. Coach Z not having a mouth would go along with this too.. Missing facial parts? --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 19:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
: Missing Anatomy. But everyone knows they aren't really missing. We see Homestar et al. manipulate objects and we hear Coach Z speak all the time. Maybe this should all be re-filed under something like ''Invisible Body Parts'' or ''Invisible Anatomy''. Or, if you like ''really'' bad puns, perhaps ''Grey-Area Anatomy''. {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::''Invisible Anatomy'' and the like would work, except that some people (like me) speculate that armless characters don't have invisible arms but rather telekenitic powers. :/ - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Peaks ==

Probably not worth a Fun Fact, but this is the third reference to Twin Peaks they've done so far- the previous ones were in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament]].[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

Dale Cooper spilling coffee on himself -- is that verified? I've been rewatching the series recently, and while I haven't made it thru the whole thing yet, I think I've found the scene in question, and there's no coffee involved. I think the coffee is just from Strong Sad's storyboard, which didn't have any direct Twin Peaks references that I noticed. [[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 06:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

==Sequicentennial==

The word "sequicentennial" means 150 years. The "ennial" is related to the word "annual". Because sequicenten-email is a play on words, it works in this case. However, if he were to have called it his sequcentennial email, it would be incorrect, as he would have had to have started in 1856 and answered one annually in order to celebrate his sequicentennial. Perhaps "1936" could also have been "1856".
:They've usually referred to their milestones as years though – a 50th birthday candle in [[50 emails]] and in [[flashback]] Homestar says "Happy 100th birthday"... Hmm, running gag perhaps? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::But he replaced the "ennial" with"email", changing it from 150-years to 150-emails. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

==No probalo, Bobalo==
Okay, Strong Sad's "No prob, Bob": ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHNvdXJjZWlkPW1vemlsbGEtc2VhcmNofHE9MTIgbW9ua2V5c3xmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=23 12 Monkeys]'' reference or TTATOT? Is anyone familiar with this usage outside of that movie? Which, incidentally, is a lot of fun. Go watch it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Nevamind. I just answered my own question with a look through the edit history (Bob The Builder). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::Wait a minute, it has by now been revealed in [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/alternate universe|STUFF]] that this ''isn't'' used in Bob the Builder. So how 'bout it—''12 Monkeys'' or common phrase? Let's take a poll:
*I've heard this more than once in conversation.
#[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] (Waldo from Family Matters used to say it, and I use it quite often.)
#This is an extremely common phrase. I have never specifically heard it in connection with any TV show or movie, but I and my family use it all the times. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

*No, I've only heard it in connection with or quotation of the movie.

#[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]

== "Myrtlebeth" ==

I know it kinda matches up with "Elizagerth," but every time I watched the easter egg I thought Senor Cardgage said "Myrtle bass (like the fish)." --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 23:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's definatly Myrtlebeth here... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

==Running time?==

[http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1893/runningtime3ln.png Hmm.] I ran the e-mail in Winamp and it came out with a totally different running time than what's listed. Is it possible that my Flash Player is inaccurate somehow or something? Anybody care to clarify or help? I don't see why it would be inaccurate, but I'll keep checkin' about. (Note that it says 8:10 because of Easter Eggs, which I assume aren't counted in running times.) [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:Awesome. I have Audacity as well, thanks to my brother. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

::The thing ends at frame 4242. At 12fps, that's 353.5 seconds, or 5:53. It seems WinAmp is only counting 10fps, instead of the correct 12 (424 seconds is 7:04). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Recorded Backwards? ==
Usually, to get the effect of the Coach Z Easter egg, the actors will record the lines, reverse them, imitate the reversal and reverse it back – so the phonemes are in the correct order, but the sounds fade in at the start instead of fading out at the end. However I'm not convinced they've done this in this email. 
{{Audio|Backwards Forwards.ogg|Listen to the clip, forwards and backwards}} 
I'm pretty sure they've just faked it – the reversed clip clearly sounds to me like it has more of a backwards sound to it, with the fading in at the beginning and such. What do you people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:As I recall, The Simpsons also faked the effect for the second "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" episode. "Chief Wiggum. Don't eat eat the clues!" I got the impression that by faking the reversed speech, TBC were inspired by/referencing The Simpsons more than Twin Peaks.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::It's not necessarily a Simpson reference. But it is clear the backwards version shows they faked the backward speech - though I wish it were otherwise! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::definitely faked. it is impossible, completely impossible to make the 't' sounds that homestar makes using reversed speech. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)????
::::I've managed a pretty good 't' sound myself, with lots of practice. But if you get to that point you've lost the effect completely, and you need to use an earlier take. Not that that's relevant to the point, or anything.[[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 07:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== Baboon or Buffoon? ==

Buffoon makes more sense in context, but I can see an argument for baboon as well. How do we feel about this? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:Baboon, definitely. You can hear the 'baa' sound, as opposed to pronouncing it buh-boon. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::I think present day strong bad said Aah! Squshy grey tomaots instead of shades of greay tomatoes. alex H.

== Aäa! ==

The one problem with using the ä is that a search for "doppelganger" will not turn up this version. Also, searching for "doppelgänger" (intentionally using the character) finds only the character usage, not the entity. The search here is incapable of allowing a, ä, and &auml; to all be found equally. The same is certainly true with other characters. Perhaps there's a fix? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:An excellent point. Er, two points. Unless the admins can tell us there's some option to make the Search account for this, the fix is to settle for ''doppelganger'' with no umlauts, which is an acceptable English spelling in American Heritage and Webster's, and to do the same with other words when possible. Of course, there are some accented characters that should be kept, such as the distinction between [[Señor]] Havin' A Little Trouble and [[Senor Cardgage]], or entries on the [[Foreign Words]] page. But in general, we should probably just gloss over non-English characters as long as it doesn't make us look stupid. Can I get an amen, and then the doppelgangers can be respelled? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::I dunno. My dictionary (The American Heritage) as well as a brief search of online dictionaries shows the umlauted version as standard and the plain version as a variant. I'd hate to sacrifice accuracy for such a marginal return, especially knowing that MediaWiki's search "feature" is woefully lacking. On the other hand, a [http://www.google.com/search?q=doppelg%C3%A4nger+site%3Ahrwiki.org Google search] for the umlauted version also shows the plain version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I think I will block anyone who tries to get rid of the umlauts. (Just kidding.) But seriously, it would look terrible not to write it with an umlaut. I admit, I'm biased on the matter, seeing that "Heimstern Laufer" has rather negative connotations for me, but still... {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Why? What does Heimstern Laufer (without the umlaut) mean? :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== She Hulks She-Hulks by the Sea Shore ==

This is gonna sound super nerdy, but I think it's clear that when Strong Bad disparages the "geniuses behind She-Hulk," he's not talking about comic legends Stan Lee or John Buscema, her original creators. The more hit-or-miss John Byrne was the, uh, genius behind "The Sensational She-Hulk," the series that brought in all of the trademark fourth wall breaks and panel-walks. (For instance, sometimes, She-Hulk would face the viewpoint and shout, "Byrne!") The previous She-Hulk series, "Savage She-Hulk," and the modern She-Hulk series, simply "She-Hulk," eschew such tomfoolery. More on She-Hulk can be found [http://www.toonopedia.com/she-hulk.htm here] [[User:67.100.125.201|67.100.125.201]] 06:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Please do not ever worry about sounding super nerdy. Remember, we're making an encyclopedia about [[Glossary#D|dumb animal characters]]. You've given us some very good information here, and I'm sure we will be able to use it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::Which I did. What say you to the revision, 67? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I say it's pretteh ni-ice! Good job. [[User:68.167.251.224|68.167.251.224]] 06:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC) (same person, exciting new IP address due to internet problems a few days ago)

==Not a tan==
In Goofs:
''"In his comic, Strong Badman has a visible tan, but when he appears in the Computer Room and at the end, he has the same skin color as Strong Bad."''
That wasn't a tan, that's a style artists use to show detail through '''shadows'''. --'''Not a User'''

==Say hello to my li'l friend==
Does anyone else think that the tacklebox line in the Senor Cardgage egg is a reference to the ''Scarface'' line: "Say hello to my li'l friend"? It seems like you were supposed to think that, but what you expected didn't happen. Anyone else agree? --'''Not a User'''

== Singing Off Keeeeeeyyy!!! ==

I want to add a note that Old-Timey Strong Bad is wincing when Stinkoman is singing because he is singing off-key, but I'm not sure how to word it. Can anyone help? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Doesn't look like a wince too much to me. And he's not off-key, nor all that out of tune. In fact, I reverted a comment in the transcript itself saying Stinkoman was singing out of tune. He's really no farther off pitch than Strong Bad ever is.
:Perhaps what people are thinking is this - the notes Stinkoman sings are:
<pre>
C D E F D A
I hope it's from a girl
</pre>

:And that last A is over a dominanttype harmony. Now, that's actually pretty common in this anthem-style rock, but I can see how the listener would expect a nice clean G there. Stil, not out of tune in TBC standards by a long shot, and OTSB's little lean and turn becoming a wince is a stretch to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:: It certainly made me wince. It's at least a quarter-step sharp. It's a lot more out of toon than Strong Bad usually is.
:::Well, it's less obvious with Strong Bad because he has a very low voice, he kinda grumbles. Still, even if we objectively think it's out of tune (and certainly it's not "off-key", if it's a quarter tone) we still have to decide if it's relevant to the transcript. I say nah. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:I assumed OTSB was wincing because Stinkoman was singing very loudly, and right in OTSB's ear (if you can call it that).[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Although I think he is a little bit out of tune, I don't think Old-timey winces because of that. He is singing pretty loud. - frldgf v2.13

== Who wanted.. ==

Senor Cardgage to adopt Strong Bad? i was kinda feeling sad for SB when he got voip'd. --[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 10:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== What's the tune? ==

I can ''almost'' place the tune that Casio VX-bad is playing in the final song, but not quite. Anyone want to clue me in? And if you know, is it worth a mention on the page?

:It's already mentioned [[Keyboard Strong Bad|where it should be]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

::It's exactly the start of the demo song from the Casio VL-tone.

:::I had a Concertmate-350. Was clearly that demo tune. Don't know if it has an offical name.

== Can somebody explain this... better? ==

The entry: ''This email introduces a new 'ridiculously huge when it's closed' frame to [[Stinkoman]]'s mouth animation.'' isn't very clear. It seems to me it's talking about the actual flash frames. But really, that's all I can tell. It's not something I distinctly remember from the email, nor do I get a clear picture of what it's talking about without having to go back and play the email again. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:I think it's talking about how he has a new smile added to his mouth movements. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's an improvement on the way the sentiment was ''first'' worded, "This is the first time we've seen Stinkoman smile." After I reverted that, thinking of the many times he laughs, I realized the writer meant "smile ''whith his mouth closed''." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Funniest word ever? ==
HELLOTE --[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

Nope - Sblounskched

== ALL of the dopplegangers? ==

I'm guessing TBC wanted all dopplegangers in this sbemail, but, I believe they missed two. Did they include Lil' SB and "Both my pixels" SB? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the variation ommisions have [[Talk:alternate universe#No Little Strong Bad|already been brought up]]. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Fun Fact Cleanup ==

I removed a bunch of fun facts for various reasons:

*Strong Bad mentioned real fruit smoothies earlier in [[mascot]].

So what? It's not like that's really at all relevant.

*The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].

...among other places. And it's a standard cartoony sound effect.

*"Super Group" is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]].

Likely coincidence. Not particularly noteworthy.

*"Number 1 jam" is a phrase previously used in [[time capsule]].

And it's been used more times since then.

*Old-Timey Strong Bad previously used the word "Doppelgänger" to refer to Strong Bad in [[flashback]].

Are we going to mention every time someone repeats something from the past?

*Stinkoman's lyric "I hope it's from a girrrrrrrl!" is probably a reference to Strong Bad's desire for female emailers, as mentioned in the [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email rap]] of [[dragon]].

No kidding.

Just a heads up. If anyone disagrees, just go ahead and re-add the stuff I removed. That's the beauty of a wiki, after all. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:Speaking of Fun Facts, should it be meantioned somewhere (if not) That Homestar was trying to make a health/muscle-gain smoothie? Some people may not get that. I mean, if they don't, they'll be wondering why Homestar wants a green smoothie with all this weird atuff, and blah blah blah, yada yada yada, I think I should go get some pants. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
*I agree with most of those except the last one; I think that one is notable enough to point out, so I re-added it :) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::If you ask me, of the fun facts I removed, that's among the most obvious and mundane. Of course that's what it's referring to, but is it *really* necessary to note the obvious, that Strong Bad much prefers e-mails from females? -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::...yes. As these are the only two times (to my knowledge) that it is actually said that female emailers are preferred. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:38, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::But it's clearly in the nature of the character to desire the lady types. That's what makes this un-notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::[[long pants|"And if I email you, girl! Woman! Oh, would you email me, girl? Woman?"]] -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Also of note: [[brianrietta]] and [[sisters]]. And, of course, [[current status]], [[marzipan]], [[dreamail]]... And those're just off the top of my head. Different context, but all display Strong Bad's desire for female companionship. So, yes, it's a reference, but to a character's personality trait, not one specific e-mail. It's natural for his character that he'd prefer to get e-mails from women. It's almost like making a comment stating "Strong Bad called Strong Sad "dumpus" because he doesn't like him." -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention in [[Strong Bad#Character Video Transcript|his character video]], SB wants all the ladies to form a line to one side for make-out sessions. Then you've got [[2 emails]], where no ladies showed up! (Backwards!) Oh! And then there was the time in [[privileges]] where he went "EEEEE-MAIL ME GIRL! Once times! Twice times!" ... basically, it's just part of his character. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Which is why we have pages like [[Strong Bad's Ladies]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::::I guess I just don't understaaaaand the ladies. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== They Might Be Giants reference? ==

Ok, maybe I have too much [[They Might Be Giants]] on the brain, but I found a pretty much TMBG refrence. I know you guys said the thing about the backwards speaking refrence, and how it's a refrence to something else. I forget the song, but they "fake" sing backwards... it's pretty weird, and it's what I thought of when Homestar was talking like that. You can search it on TMBW, it'll say... Sorry, I'm probably annoying you guys. =) --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, I've heard of a guy that ''does'' sing a song backwards. I have no name, though. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::I Weird Al's video, Amish Paradise, he is shown walking to the camera while barnyard animals walk backwards as well as other people. Al recorded the scene walking backwards and memorized how to lip-sync to the backward lyrics. Given this example, The Simpsons (See above on this page) refernece and They Might Be Giants, the backwards talk became TTATOT, therefor - No fact. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:::No fact except Twin Peaks, you mean, to which it is most definitely a reference. For the record, TMBG used backwards lyrics twice: [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Hide_Away_Folk_Family Hide Away Folk Family], which was faked and sounded like nonsense whichever way you played it, and [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Subliminal Subliminal], which just played the entire last chorus backwards at the end of the song. As for the guy who does sing backwards, I don't know his name, but I remember he first appeared on America's Funniest Home Videos something like ten years ago. They were so impressed that they brought him in to make a video that they aired on the show later. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

::::And then there's "On Earth My Nina," which was written by John Linnell listening to a live recording of "Thunderbird" backward and transcribing what he thought it sounded like. [[User:68.104.201.53|68.104.201.53]] 07:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== what was wrong with what i added? ==

The sentences about the doppleganger and cacodemon?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== this cartoon has little to no continuity ==

HR.com cartoons make no pretense at continuity. A character can appear in Strong Bad's imagination, then in the past, then in the "real world". Making great efforts to explain what devices would be needed to make sense of the (lack of) continuities (time machines versus alternate reality machines) is stupid. I suppose you monkeys would also like to have a debate about what kind of magnetic levitation machines Marzipan and Homestar use to move things around, and the special sensors Strong Bad has in his boxing gloves to be able to type, and whether or Homsar is a zombie since he was killed in his first appearance, and [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_132.html how many angels can dance on the point of a needle]. come on. It's a cartoon. Just enjoy it, accept it. [[User:66.188.99.244|66.188.99.244]] 02:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps not, but the fact that both this and [[2 emails]] mention putting a Game Boy in a blender and using it to travel through time, or into alternate realities... it is obviously a ''reference'', even if it's not an attempt at continuity, and we would be foolish not to mention it as a H*R encyclopaedia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

:By the by, thanks for calling the posters "monkeys"; people really respect your opinion when you insult them. Thumbs up, IP Hero. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 13:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::And, amusingly, the first debate mentioned has [[Talk:Lack of Visible Arms|already been had]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Modest Mouse reference ==

I think Old-Timey Strong Bad's show is a refrence to Modest Mouse's EP ''Everywhere and His Nasty Parlour Tricks''.--[[User:Cow Abductor|Cow Abductor]] 02:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:Disagree'd! Parlor tricks is too common a phrase to assume a connection there. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== transcript ==

Somebody read through this transcript. You'll find it's really awkward to get through because of the {comments} everywhere. Honestly, nobody cares whether or not Old-Timey Strong Bad turned left or right. It doesn't need to be pixel-perfect. I'd prefer it read well. [[User:86.136.82.105|86.136.82.105]] 12:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
:It reads fine. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, here's a question. There's a portion of the transcript that waffles between

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! ''{jumps off the stool and towards the swirl}'' Jump!

and

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee!

''{He jumps off the stool and towards the swirl.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jump!

I understood the rule to be that if it's only a few words, leave the action inline, but if it's a lot, split it. This seems to be a split situation, but is it? And what really IS the rule?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:I think this case should be a single line because Strong Bad says "Jump!" almost immediately after "Ohbee Kaybee!" His jumping off the stool happens at almost exactly the same time - just a little after, but close enough that we might even be able to get away with:

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! Jump!

''{Strong Bad jumps off the stool and towards the swirl. Then something happens. You know the rest.}''

:{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

::To quote the standards:
<blockquote>If a character does something while speaking a line of dialogue, or if more description is needed for their manner of speaking or inflection (e.g. if they're singing or whispering) the action (if it is not too long to describe in a few words) can be enclosed in curly braces — { } — and made italic, like this: {goes to the refrigerator}. Note that the curly braces themselves are also italic. Short actions like these do not need to be proper sentences.</blockquote>
::So if you're going to stick actions within dialogue, it needs to be...
* A few words long.
* Not a complete sentence.
* Relating to the speaking character.
::In this case, I think the action is a little too long for my tastes. :S I'm fine with both the 'Jump'-being-a-single-line version and KieferSkunk's solution. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Although I've zealously hunted down situations that ''need'' bumping onto new lines, I also agree with anonny's point that we should avoid breaking up the flow as much ''as possible''. I'd like the rule of thumb "If you have to use a full sentence to describe the action, it should get a new line. ''But if you '''can''' describe it in a sentence fragment, do!''" —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Cheat Mashes a lot of buttons. ==

Strong Bad tells The Cheat to "mash go on that blender!". In [[Everybody Knows It]], Homestar tells The Cheat to "mash play on that jambox.". Possible reference? - [[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]] 03:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

:We think so, it's already listed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman Training ==

Vector Strong Bad being Stinkoman's training problem was a good idea. I wonder if they will make a game like that?
-zyborg

== Question ==

How could you guys know the name of the email before you even found out what it was?
:We don't. The email's name is released at the same time as the email, so we find out right away. If you can't see it, you need to refresh your cache. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
::If anybody is interested at all, the name of the e-mail was originally grabbed from rando.xml. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::And, since the email menu is generated by reading rando.xml, if you cleared your cache the new email would have been in the list (reading rando.xml directly is simply quicker). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
No no. Listen. Alternate Universe wasn't on the sbemail menu at the time, so how could you guys possibly know what is was?
:As was said, they hack into rando.xml and read it there. If your cache didn't pick up on the new rando.xml version, it would not appear in the menu. But it was added to rando.xml anyway. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::alternate universe *was* in the sbemail menu at the time. If you didn't see it it's because your computer had it cached, and you just needed to clear your cache and it would be there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Text size ==

I've removed
<blockquote>
*When all of the Strong Bads are warping in, the bottom half of the text on the Lappy is bigger and darker than the upper half, which is normal.
</blockquote>
from ==Goofs==, because technically it is a Flash artifact – if you zoom in, you'll see that the text is in fact normal. The result has something to do with Flash's [[Wikipedia:Anti-aliasing|anti-aliasing]] engine... I'm not sure exactly what the cause is, probably something to do with the [[Wikipedia:Moiré effect|Moiré effect]], but I'm not sure. Anyways, I'm in two minds about this... on one hand it's clearly a Flash artifact, but on the other it's a noticable glitch when you watch the email normally (no viewing the Flash file, no seek bars, nothing)... I also can't think of a way to word it properly to put it in ==Glitches==... any thoughts? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== SENOR CARDGAGE ==

Anyone really know why Senor Cardgage sang "let the children go"?
I find it quite freaky... [[User:Hornet|Cupcake]] 15:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:The same reason Senor Cardgage says anything... because he's a weird, weird, crazy man. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
This may be late but Senor Cardgage's line sounds more to me like "Let the little childrens know", since I cannot hear the G sound and it fits well with the next line "I hope they don't a splode". [[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 03:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Big Nose? No Nose? ==

Stinkoman called Strong Bad "Big Nose" after a practice test in the Strong Bad Zone. What does Stinkoman mean by "Big Nose"? Does Strong Bad have a nose? If so, what is it? Is it his jewel? Is it his silver plate? [[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]
:As it says on the article – "big nose" is an Asian term for westeners. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::From Real-World References:
::<blockquote>Stinkoman calls Strong Bad "big nose", a derogatory term used in eastern Asia to describe Westerners, whose noses tend to be genetically larger than Asians'.</blockquote>
::{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Isn't [[Coach Z]] a Westerner? I think on Coach Z's wiki page, it says that he speaks in a Western accent. Strong Bad's english, isn't he?

[[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]

:In this context, "Westerner" refers to people living west of Eastern Asia, that is in the view of the Asians. People of European descent, specifically. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, "Westener" or "Occidental" in the sense of "Western Hemisphere", not "Western America" - usually referring to West Europe, North America (and, strangely, Australia... we seem to break the mould on a lot of these general terms...). As opposed to "Eastener" or "Oriental", usually referring to East Asia. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

What I think is it's a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python's_Life_of_Brian Monty Python's Life of Brian], since it's a running gag in the film for characters to call each other big nose. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

== Easter egg #1 ==

you guys shoud add that homestar "backwards" voice look like the voice of homsar...
:Yeah, I see what you mean. It's not quite the kind of thing we put in articles, though. But now at least it's mentioned ''here''! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

==Where doth the Cheat go??==
Where does the Cheat, the stool and the wormhole disappear to? Like, did the Cheat
turn into Sterrance?

{{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 20:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

what probaly happend is when homestar came in the room, the cheat left. homestar on the otherhand, he "turned into" sterrance. as for the stool and portal... who knows.

:The stool was affected early on presumably by the portal, we don't know why. The Cheat likely left when things started getting weird, and Homestar likely was transported out, not changed to Sterrance. That's my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:42, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::The stool is weird... it appears and disappears at various times. Homestar is transported out, as seen by him transporting in to the Coach Z easter egg, The portal unwinds, the same as it appears - if you look closely it just unspirals after Homestar disappears. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Save the last email for Strong Bad... ==

OMG! I loved that song. I don't know why, but I did. I hope they post an MP3 version on the site.

== Outsiders reference you voted down ==

I'm sorry, guys, but in the context Strong Bad used the word "tuff" in, that was a reference to ''The Outsiders.'' I don't care if 25 people voted against it. I'm gonna use the same logic that all you people who tried to use against me in Change of Pace...just because you don't want something to be a reference doesn't mean it is. (Yeah, and vice versa- big deal.) But this was as obvious a reference as there has been in a while. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:But there is overwhelming evidence against you. Think about that, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Well, first off, the reference doesn't make much sense. If he meant "tuff" as in "sharp", why would he come up with "Bulldozer"... last I checked, they aren't very pointy. Secondly, unless "kool" is also used in ''The Outsiders'', it's a bit more of a stretch – why would he intentionally mispell "cool" with no reference to anything, and then intentionally mispell "tough" with a reference to something else? Besides, do a search for "[[Google:tuff|tuff]]" on Google, you'll find [http://www.tuffshed.com/ many] [http://www.tufffemme.com/ examples] [http://www.tuffstuff.net/ of] [http://www.tuffcountry.com/ the] [http://www.tuffboat.com/ word] being used to mean "tough" (btw these examples were all on the first page, and ''all in a row''). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:08, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Another question: how else ''could'' you misspell "tough"? Okay, "tuph" comes to mind, but that's about it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Firstly, I was thinking about the evidence. And regardless, it doesn't change my mind, Qermaq. Kool isn't used in the book, Phlip, but it's the context it was used in that I have my argument with. As far as I'm concerned, the reference was legitimate. That may not hold up with the results of the voting, but it's my opinion and the discussion is closed. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, then your opinion is respectfully noted. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::''{edit conflict}'' And you have every right to do so. I mean, I've disagreed with a ''lot'' of STUFF verdicts. As long as you accept that the result of the vote decides what goes on the page, you can hold whatever opinion you want about references to ''The Outsiders'', Family Guy, what have you. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Go vs. Grow? ==

In the closing song, on Senor Cardgage's solo, does anyone else hear him say, "Let the little children '''grow'''" rather than "go?"

*I did hear him say "grow" initially...but I've replayed that line over and over and now I'm sure he's saying "go". -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 19:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::To be honest, I can't make it out at all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:::At first, I heard "roam", but now I hear either "glow" or "flow". The problem is that none of these possibilites rhyme with "splode". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Not really a problem (songs don't have to rhyme), but it sure would have made it easier to decipher. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Flex it, flex it, shoulder stance... ==

*I noticed the blue panel on the bottom of the Strong Badman comics has a line that says "work it out!". Why does that feel like a reference to [[lady fan]]...or at least the part where Homestar is featured in the Buck Webb comic? -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 19:14, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Doesn't match any dialogue in [[lady fan]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't think it has to match any dialogue to reference [[lady fan]]. The fact that [[lady fan]] had a section where Homestar was in a comic panel with a speech bubble regarding exercise is enough to be somewhat of a reference. I don't think it's enough for it to be mentioned on the article's main page, but I definitely believe that's where the unseen panel is derived from. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Not the realest Strong Bad? ==

Now, I might be reading too much into the e-mail, but everybody else does, so I'm-a gonna join the party! Anyways, since animated Strong Bad appeared with really true-to-life Strong Bad, are we to believe they're not the same entity? Or maybe Real Bad lives in an alternate universe where everything that ever happened to Flash Bad happened to him. But that's just me supposin' out loud. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:Or maybe that Puppet Strong Bad is a different one than the one in, like, Biz Cas Fri. Who knows? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Of course, if they are both the "real" Strong Bad, it wouldn't be [[pizzaz|the first time we've seen two of him]]. Just thought I'd observe that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait—I just remembered that what Strong Bad is visiting here is ''alternate universes''. In one of them, he's a puppet—''this'' one! (Now, if you want your 4th wall really turned inside out, he should have visited a universe in which he can watch TBC drawing him. And maybe try his hand at it himself.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, there's two of them! (This isn't really contributing much, but I like the quote.) - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Left Handed ==

Based on the way Strong Sad hold his guitar, he might be left handed. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 21:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Say hello to my [[Left Handedness|little friend]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::The [[Left Handedness]] article doesn't discuss the evidence that Strong Sad is right-handed or ambidextrous, which I might take care of later. For now I'll take the opportunity to mention that for an ambidextrous person to choose a left-handed guitar would be pretty weird. They're something of an oddity; even many southpaws opt to learn right-handed technique just because it's more common. So for someone we know can write with his right hand to be seen at one time with a [[Sketchbook#SK-2006-03-02|right-handed guitar]], then suddenly with a left-handed guitar, is difficult to reconcile. But not impossible, of course. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 20:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Strong Sad]]'s article mentions being ambidextrous, as he's also been seen writing with his left hand, and at other times with his right. I think that's as good a place as any for a mention, since it's more a defining trait of his character than something specific to this email. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== Old-timey audience ==

I was just watching this e-mail again, and I noticed in the "vaudeville" scene that while the audience as a whole is a fairly shapeless mass, one distinctive shape rises up from it on the lower left. Is this shape anything significant? (Well, significant enough for a wiki that exists to notice minor details like this...) It looks a bit like [[Mr. Smallow]]'s hat.

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Big enough? Knife enough? ===
{{stufffact|The woman on Strong Badman's television is holding a [[Big Knife]].}}
{{stuffverdict|17:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)|23:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|25|5|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Highball pear ===
{{stufffact|The pseudo-backward pronunciation of the word "eyeball" in the Coach Z Easter egg sounds like "highball", which could be a reference to [[radio]] and/or [[space program]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined, 24–0. A proposed revision was also overwhelmingly declined|21|9|alternate universe}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== You look burnt or DEAD ===
{{stufffact|The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].}}
{{stuffverdict|08:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|26|9|alternate universe}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== And they won the game... ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad previously mentioned "real fruit smoothies" in [[mascot]] when the team won the game.}}
{{stuffverdict|07:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)|07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|7|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== No problem STUFFing this one ===
{{stufffact|The phrase "No prob, Bob" is frequently used on the show [[Wikipedia:Bob the Builder|Bob the Builder]].}}
{{stuffverdict|04:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|17:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined (patently false)|13|1|alternate universe}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== A tuff STUFF ===
{{stufffact|The use of the word "tuff" may be a reference to the novel ''The Outsiders''. In it, most characters use the word "tuff", meaning "cool" or "sharp".}}
{{stuffverdict|20:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)|17:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|25|2|alternate universe}}

== Dry T-Shirt Contest ==

Maybe when Strong Bad refers to the 'Dig To China With Your Ears Contest' as "the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of", one of the worse contests is the Dry T-Shirt Contest, as featured in [[bottom 10]]. Since this is in Strong Bad's Bottom Ten of everything, you could reason that it would be worse than the other proposed contests. [[User:Aether|Aether]] 11:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:See [[Contests]]. There's a lot of other bad contests out there that Strong Bad could have been referring to, but we kept it to the Ten-Step Footrace from [[flashback]] and the Strongest Man in the World Contest from the [[Original Book]], as those two contests also took place in the storybook universe and were likely the ones he was referring to. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Jumpin the shark ==

I thought that this SBEmail was kind of dumb. Has Homestar jumped the shark? -guest
:Gee, if you didn't like this one, I don't know what to say. I might remind you that you got your money's worth. Many fans have already named this one of their favorites. But a call of "jumping the shark" requires some gimmick to have been employed which is beyond the pale, and I don't see evidence of that. Nothing in this one is any more or less odd than any other email, in my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Dear guest, this page is for discussing changes to the article. Please direct those kinds of comments to our [[Forum:7671|forum]]. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:23, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Last Sbemail? ==

I'm kinda scared that this was the last sbemail of them all...
when it said, "Save the last Email for Strong Bad"...
Does anyone think that this is the last sbemail???

I really hope it isn't!

-[DHO]RABB

:I thougbt that too until today when [[senior prom]] was released.

== The Pit of Despair! Don't even think-- ==

Another of those little things where something in a cartoon reminds me of something, but it wouldn't be a good Fun Fact: On my most recent viewing, the way Homestar clears his throat and resumes talking normally after his backward-talking reminded me of the moment in ''The Princess Bride'' where the albino talks in a stereotypical scary hiss for the beginning of the line (in this subject heading), then clears his throat and continues in an anticlimactic normal voice. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Deutschman?!? ==

Has no one yet discovered that upon freezing Strong Bad's fall in the Strong Badman section of the email, and viewing the third pannel he passes, one may discover a shocking vista of The Deutschman, exclaiming "Kinder Uberraschung!!" Thus, I find it very important that The Deutschman be included in the Cast section of this page. Or Deutschman gets his own page or something.

This warrents noting, methinks. Also, the second pannel is a non-exciting "Tadaow!" in a spikey exclamation bubble. Le Boring. —[[User:AlexDitto|AlexDitto]] 22:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:We're [[1 step ahead|one step ahead]] of you, Alex. Though we chose to take it in a bit of a different direction. (Check the Trivia section.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Haha! Blast, how did I miss that? Thanks for directing me in the right direction. *Sigh*... everyone's one step ahead of me... XD —[[User:AlexDitto|AlexDitto]]

==Dangeresque==
Dangeresque never showed up. So why isn't he mentioned as not showing up?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 01:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because we don't mention a lot of the forms that didn't appear. [[Lil' Strong Bad]], for example. There are a ton of forms that didn't appear, and we can't really list them all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Black Lodge? ==

Where did we get that name?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 15:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:It's a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=alternate_universe&diff=next&oldid=301332 Twin Peaks ref], as explained in [[alternate universe#Real-World References]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Striking it Rich ==

The sound effect played when T.H.S.B. says "I struck it rich!" reminds me of, I dunno, something I'd hear in The Windwaker. Anybody else? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 14:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== e-mail or e-mair ==

I listened to the song several times, and it seems that Old-Timey Strong Bad said e-mair (ending with r).

What do you think: e-mail or e-mair?

:Maybe it's his accent or just how he talks? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Fun Fact ==

"This email is 5 minutes & 53 seconds long, and, although this may or may not have been noticed, the Lappy 486's batteries should have ran out after the first five minutes."

There's one flaw in that fact: Look in the background while Strong Bad is talking to Strong Sad, or pretty much any time it's zoomed out. The Lappy is Plugged in, and would therefore not be running off the batteries. Therefore, the battery referrence is moot. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 05:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

== Puppet Soup ==

When I saw the scene of Strong Bad mirroring the motions of his Puppet Stuff counterpart, I immediately was reminded of the classic mirror scene from the Marx Brothers' movie Duck Soup. In said scene, Chico and Harpo noisily shatter a pane of mirrored glass during an espionage mission, and must stand in the empty space and silently mimic Groucho's motions when he comes to investigate. Am I alone in thinking that might be a reference? - 23:23, 29 March 2007
:Two similar characters moving in unison doesn't necessarily make for a reference to anything, even though they're "mirror images" of each other. In the scene you're talking about (as well as a similar happening between Harpo and Lucielle Ball on a classic 1955 episode of I Love Lucy), specifically involved creating an illusion of a mirror where there was none, and at least one character being (temporarily) fooled into thinking that a mirror was there. I really don't think that the puppet segment bears any significant similarity to the Duck Soup scene. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 05:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Uglinessman

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 02:07:16 GMT

Uglinessman: additions and cleanup

I previously left this page blank because I had nothing to say, but I started to notice a lot of talk pages where people use bullets for indentation, so I've decided to make that sort of a pet project of mine. Bullets, indicated in an edit window with an asterisk, are used for a variety of purposes, such as items on a list, or for a very short excerpt being quoted... but they should ''not'' be used for indentation to indicate the progression of a conversation, as it is visually distracting (or, to put it more bluntly, it looks like [[Crap|crap]]). As explained [[HRWiki:Talk_page_etiquette#How_to_format_talk_posts|here]], ''colons'' should be used for that type thread management.

Anyway, now that this page has actually been created, I suppose I should introduce myself. I am known in various places online as Ugliness Man, and I won't tell you my real name because it doesn't matter. My favourite SB email is [[virus]], and I currently live in [[Wikipedia:Calgary|Calgary]].
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For the sake of organization, I have decided to start keeping a list of talk pages which I have debulletized, and those which I have checked but didn't need to edit. This is mainly for my own reference, because after I've done about 8 or so, it will be hard to remember which ones I've already done. I was initially going to just do this for the emails, but for now I'm going to go through the articles on my watchlist.

'''March 29, 2007'''

:[[Talk:the movies|the movies]] - first one (and I got scolded for using a mild explitive)
:[[Talk:isp|isp]] - fixed
:[[Talk:radio|radio]] - fixed
:[[Talk:technology|technology]] - fixed
:[[Talk:band names|band names]] - checked, no bullets present at... er... present
:[[Talk:Crap|crap]] - there's bullets, but they seem to be correctly used
:[[Talk:Experimental Film|Experimental Film]] - ditto
:[[Talk:Everybody to the Limit|Everybody to the Limit]] - no bullets
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Most recent update: March 29, 2007, 8:06pm [[Wikipedia:Mountain_Time_Zone|MST]]

User:Uglinessman

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:58:44 GMT

Uglinessman: added list

Talk:technology

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:52:15 GMT

Uglinessman: bullets are not for indentation

==Extrapolates voice==
"extrapolates voice"? I, uh, don't think that word means what you think it means.
I'd correct it, but I can't think of anything better than "adopts a high-pitched voice"

Oh, and also, I've actually seen "Computers don't BYTE" posters. In the back of libraries, where even the librarians don't go anymore.

==Endless Square?==
That doesn't seem right. It looks the the screen saver alternates between turning left and right, making it an endless zig-zag. And that doesn't seem to be worth mentioning. ~Ostrichburger
:I concur, and I changed it to indicate alternating left/right. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Take a better look. Its actually just one corridor like end----end with the camera turning around to go back the other way. And, if you think about it, this actually makes a bit more sense from an sbemail humor standpoint. ~SuperKawaiiNeko
::I agree with that - JamesDean
:could this be a reference to zork? or text based games in general. some of the mazes in those are frankly impossible. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

==Has anyone tried...==
To decode what Strong Bad was saying in binary?[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:29, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:You could. [http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php This] is a handy web-based utility. Short of decoding it yourself. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, that doesn't work because Strong Bad doesn't say a number of characters divisable by 8, so all the decoder is doing is adding 0's to make up for the lack of bits. And could whoever put the translation specify which coding you are using? eaglescout1984 30 Jan 2006 15:40 GMT
:::Actually ASCII is 7 bit system. -- Crowther
::::Well, I'm still trying to find out if he is saying anything. I get lost, though. I have this so far: 1001101 means...m.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I don't have time to try again but I got 9945 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 213 + 210 + 29 + 27 + 26 24 + 23 + 20 = {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think it adds up to anything now. I've used all of those programs, and they just come out with mainly this:�.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::If you're using Windows, just open up Calculator, put it in Scientific mode, switch to Binary, enter 1001101101100, then switch it to Decimal mode again. It confirms that Strong Bad's binary translates to 9945 in decimal.
:::::::That said, I don't think his binary speak means anything in particular. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::For that matter, has anyone decoded what Strong Bad said in Semaphore? Or was he even doing real semaphore? -Ed
:::Well, in Morse code, it's EMITEAUN if zero is a dot; TIMETNGA if zero is a dash. --[[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 04:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar Flying==
Why on earth does homestar fly up the left side of the screen? What's that all about? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
:I'm not sure--it seemed to be more of a glitch than something done intentionally. Unless it was a callback to [[virus]]. TBC have a habit of referencing their older cartoons. [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
::I'm pretty sure it was just a joke. The way Homestar Runner said "four" made it seem like it was done intentionally. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I think it was just a little addition to the ridicul-ous way he raised his pitch.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:52, 30 January
2006 (UTC)
::::It has to be intentional, not a glitch, because Bubs' eyes follow Homestar up as he flies away. And how could it be a reference to [[virus]]? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
:::::I bet he was raised by wireless wires. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::If TBC wanted it to be a reference to virus, they would have made Homestar with The Homestar Runner's body, they would have made his head come off, and they would have made those weird shadowy things appear behind him. It's probably just your everyday Homestar randomness. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::haha... I thought so. Everyday randomness, indeed![[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
::::::::I was thinking maybe it has something to do with the way that Strong Bad rises up also when he says "I'll be your best friend!" Maybe they had SB rise up when he spoke in a higher pitch and in a sing-song tone, so they thought it would be funny if Homestar flew up when he spoke particularly high and sing-song. There's my theory. --Der Pepper
:::::::::Nah...it obviously has something to do with wireless extension cords.--vl-tone

Just curious, did anyone see anything strange on the .swf file before it got black-boardered? -- Nobody Important (NI)

The way he flies up also kind of looks like that glitch in Double Dragon where you can get people to fly up off the screen.

== The Amber Screen ==

The screen in whihc Strong Bad describes how to select an email address is coloured Amber. this is a reference to a time in the mid 80's when Amber replaced green as the principle colour for monochrome screens. It was supposed to reduce eye strain or something.
--"Creepy Pants man"

I remember we had one of those amber monochrome screens.. Well, I was pretty little. I remember it being quite like that - that same color, with the diagonal-ish lines going up it.
No, I don't remember what year this would be.. probably very early 90's. (Probably just happened to have one.)
-- [[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 01:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I would add that it's similar to the Tandy SB used to have. -- User who doesn't want to tell you his name (UWDWTTYHN)

The [http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.html Compaq Portable III] had an amber screen. Sigh ... ahhhhhh, for the good old days! -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Clarke's Third Law ==

It seems to me that Strongbad was referencing ''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law'' with:

''The word technology... means... magic. It's basically anything that's really cool that you don't know how it works. And if it breaks, you have to buy a new one. Why, I've got some technology beneath my pants right now! Whoo-ya!''

''''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law:''''
''Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.''

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_Third_Law Arthur C. Clarke's Laws]

--Kitsula

:Oh. I just plain added the thing just now. Incidentally, although I didn't include it, it's even more similar to [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00255.htm this corollary]. - [[User:Octan|Octan]] Jan 30 2006, 3:44PM EST

==Catacombs==
When SB said "catacombs," the first thing I thought of was the second dungeon in the original Bard's Tale game, which used the first-person viewpoint as well. I'm sure other games had tombs/catacombs as well, since it's a standard RPG element. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:I was instantly reminded of DungeonQuest, with the Catacombs expansion pack. The screen saver itself resembles a first-person perspective of an extremely boring game of DungeonQuest (no catacombs). -Ed

::Yeah, but the screen saver itself is just a clone of "3D Maze", which was one of a series of free 3D screen savers supplied with Win98. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::What about adding a bullet along the lines of "Catacombs were a common setting for dungeons in 1980s RPGs, such as the Bard's Tale and DungeonQuest." The 1980s might be superfluous, since tombs and catacombs are still popular settings in RPGs, but the feel of that screensaver is very '80s, and TBC love to make references to '80s games. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The "feel" of the screensaver may be '80s, but that would be a very incorrect reference - that screensaver didn't exist until '96 or '97. (Besides, I doubt you'd find an RPG-style catacomb made up of brick walls.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I never said that the screensaver was actually from the '80s. The point is that the choice of the word "catacombs" was probably a deliberate reference to one or more 1980s games. "Catacombs" isn't exactly a word in the common vernacular, and as you said, it's odd that Strong Bad would refer to a maze of brick walls as catacombs unless TBC were referring to something specific. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 20:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::My guess is they were referring to the maze game itself, as it felt like you were going through some dungeon or catacombs. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I remember having that screensaver when I was a kid.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I remember an uncle or somebody having an old computer (not amber-screen or green-screen old, but still) with a game like this, it was a giant, brick wall maze game. Forgot the name, though. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

Where would I find this screensaver?! It was so awesome...Kate

==I can make mine say oboe shoes!==
Heh. Does anyone else like it when TBC refrence calculator words in such a funny way?
So, one time, in third grade, I remember a few kids typing

7734

on the calculators, and then turned them upside down. As you may of guessed, the H word was on the calculator screen. Very amusing. Especially when we could spell our teacher's first name on the
calculator. Weird. So does anybody like calculator words? - Oopsyoubwokeit (not logged in)
:It's a pretty common thing... I've done it before, but I don't particularily like it... - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::Calculator talk is fun. There's 55378008, 58008, 0.7734, and a lot more I can't remember right now. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 21:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Some Hebrew words can be typed on a calculator to! like 71070 or 7109179 (no need to turn it upside down for it!) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::It's very similar to 1337. Now they have those calculators that type letters, though. Boo...--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 11:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, those are awesome! My friend has a TI one (the same kind that the calculator-drawn The Cheat was drawn on a long time ago) and we type notes back and forth in math on it. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== The Cheatbot ==

I'm not going to STUFF this because it'd probably get denied right away, and I'm definitely not going to just add it to the email's fun facts list because it'd be taken off right away. In fact, I'm not even sure if this qualifies as a fun fact...it's fun to me, at least. Anyway, might could Strong Bad's mentioning of robot's purpose (other than destroying Japan) to be to serve hors d'œuvres be a reference to the first scene of The Second Renaissance? Just think about. And no, I'm not going to put a Wikipedia link to it, it's only worth discussing if you've actually seen TSR. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 22:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:If by "Second Renaissance", you're referring to episodes 2 and 3 of Animatrix, then I know what you're talking about. And I think that's a stretch - the idea of service robots that can do all sorts of menial tasks has been around much much longer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't think it's a reference to that. There are so many other times where robots are used in similar capacities (The Jetsons and Star Wars both come to mind.) eaglescout 8 Feb 2006 15:54 GMT
:PS: Just like when you were making fun of my name, I still think you're making things a lot harder on yourself with all that excess verbiage there. You know how much harder it is to type all that than just to type <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Animatrix|Animatrix]]</nowiki>? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

::Yes...I do. I do indeed, KieferSkunk. And do ''you'' know how much harder it is to type a message telling someone to type less in their messages on Homestar Runner Wiki talk pages, which is a decision that doesn't affect you or anyone else other than the one who types the message, than to type nothing at all, which is what would be better for everyone? And what else would I mean by ''Second Renaissance'' than the Animated Matrix episodes? I wouldn't care to hazard a guess. Plus, the only examples of fiction I can think of with robots that serve orderves are the 2nd Ren-sawnce, and <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Clone High|Clone High</nowiki>]]. And I'm guessing Strong Bad wouldn't be referencing old Mr. Butlertron. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:12, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Eh, it's not that hard for me. I type at over 100 WPM. That's not the point, though - I'm just trying to suggest ways to be less laborious and to allow yourself to be taken more seriously (at least in my opinion - I obviously don't speak for everyone). When I see "I'm not gonna bother to look this up, just gonna spew it out anyway", I see someone who is making a point of being lazy, and most of the time I tend to skip over the entirety of what they said as a result. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::As for the last part of that: See [[Template:STUFF/technology|STUFF]] for quite a few examples of servant robots. It's pretty much gotten into TTATOT territory by now. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

::::when I was a kid the cool thing to type in was 71077345

==Email Song==
Does the email song sound familiar to anyone else? I tried googling some of the key words to figure out which song it comes from, but no luck. It reminds me of something I've heard on a classic rock station though. Maybe fleetwood mac? --[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]] 22:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I can't put my finger on it, but it isn't Fleetwood Mac (the closest I can come up with in this vein is that it shares a similar sort of tone to "The Chain", but not an actual series of notes or lyrics). [[User:Yaztromo|Yaztromo]] 11:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Schrödinger's cat?==

I'm not sure, so I didn't want to add this as a fun fact, and I didn't feel like going through all the STUFF stuff. Anyway, does anyone else think that the half alive/half dead goat is a reference to schrodinger's cat? [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:No, I don't. {{unsigned|220.237.71.13|01:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)}}
::I think it's possible - here's the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Schrödinger's cat|Schrodinger's Cat]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I's more of a reference to "Is the glass half empty or half full?", that psycological question used to determine if someone is optimistic or pessimistic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::'''Second''' -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
The question on the paper is a reference to the glass half empty quesiton. It's a pretty big stretch to say it's a reference to Schrodinger's Cat, though I'll admit it does have some connections. And Schrodinger's Goat would be pretty funny. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 07:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::no, cause you can see the goat, and the cat is either fully alive or dead, but you cant see it. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

== Digits of Pi ==

I don't entirely like the sentence "The number on the solar calculator, 3.14, is the most common representation of pi." under the fun facts heading. Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but 3.14 is not a representation of pi, it is a representation of the number 3.14 which is not pi. Perhaps a better sentence could be something of the form "The number on the solar calculator, 3.14, is the first few digits of pi".
:Perhaps "most common approximation" might work better? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::I agree and have just changed it. -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 06:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Approximation is a better word, thanks. I do think "representation" is a correct word, as that's what most people think pi is, or at least what most people use when doing formulas with pi by hand. (It's also what a lot of math textbooks tell you to use.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Or worse, they would tell you to use 22/7, which is only 3.14 truncated and is nowhere near pi. However, most [[Wikipedia:Texas Instruments|TI calculators]] use ''3.141592654'' for best approximation when graphing or calculating circles. I agree with you both, as no matter how many digits you calculate to, it is still an approximate value. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. As far as I know, pi goes on forever. Also, I just opened Windows Calculator. Seems using 22/7 is a very bad idea, as that number is actually ''bigger'' than pi. As far as I know, pi is irrational--there's no fraction that exactly equals it. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 01:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, pi does go on forever. The whole point of using 22/7 was to make fractional calculations easier (particularly in the days before calculators). 3.14 would have been a pain to calculate when the rest of the formula is in integral fractions. pi is not just irrational, but also transcendental. Irrational means it can't be expressed as a fraction. Transcendental means that it can't be expressed as the root of a polynomial equation (e.g. square root of two is irrational, but not transcendental, as it cannot be represented by a fraction, but is a root of the equation x2 - 2 = 0. EdB
:::::::In my original comment, I didn't want to bring up the technical issue of transcendence. However, now that you mention it, the idea of expressing pi as a rational is actually a terrible idea. Liouville's approximation theorem (search in http://www.mathworld.wolfram.com for details) essentially states that transcendental numbers cannot be well approximated by rationals.

==Cell phone movie festival==
Hey, when was this email released? Because if it was after 5 am, we've got another case of creepy last-minute coincidence between a real-world broadcast and a sbemail (granted, NPR ain't Family Guy): check out [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5175556 this report on Morning Edition] about a guy writing, directing, and producing a movie on his cell phone... and hoping to win a festival. At any rate, the [http://www.cellflixfestival.org/ festival itself] might merit mention. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Great leaping ocelots, that's amazing! Nice find! --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

==Forward Right...==
*The screensaver goes in an endless loop of Forward, Right, Forward, Left, as shown here:

<code> ---- end
|
|---- end
| |
end |---- end
| |
end |...</code>
I don't think it goes like this. It looks to me like its forward right, forward right, in a big square. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:It seems to turn randomly left or right to me... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe the behavior is different at different times or for different people? It looks to me like a movie clip, but there could be more code in there than that. Every time I've watched it, though, it's gone left/right/left/right, etc. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah I saw it go left/right/left/right... too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:17, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I just realized that the little picture up there is correct, but if you were actually walking across those lines, it would be right,forward,right,forward. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== .swf changed. ==

The .swf file has changed from the original to completly black around the primary screen. {{User:Count X/sig}}
:Yeah, someone mentioned that somewheres. This and death metal, I think are like that. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Worthless screensaver ==

That Screen Saver that Strong Bad is so proud of isn't gonna do the job. Anyone who has gone to an arcade can tell you about machines where the words "Game Over" or "Insert Coin(s)" has been literaly burned either into the glass or onto the colored mesh of the display. This is visible even when playing the game. HOWEVER, the point of a screen saver is to consistantly change the colors of these pixels so that the screen never has a chance of getting burned. While he's running his saver, the bottom part of the maze (probably about 3" of his screen) is always that dark yellowish color. Surely that would get burned into his screen if he runs it too long. -[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 17:05, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:That's true.. however, the Lappy has an LCD screen. Can LCDs get burn-in? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 20:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Nope. LCD panels don't burn-in. Plus, most CRT screens these days have built-in protection against burn-in. It's not to say that they will NEVER burn in, but a screen saver like that would be unlikely to cause burn-in even on a CRT screen. It has partly to do with the contrast and brightness of the screen, partly to do with the intensity of the colors, and also the specific technology the CRT is using. Older CRTs, like in the arcade games, and cheaper CRTs not of computer-monitor grade, are more likely to burn-in simply due to those factors. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::LCDs don't burn like normal CRTs because they're made differently. They can, however, be damaged by direct sunlight or physical abuse (heh, what can't?). I wasn't arguing that his screen would get burned, I'm just saying that as far as screen savers go, this one's bunk. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 05:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

::: You would think that the point of a screen saver would be to constantly change pixel colors, wouldn't you? But unfortunately the real point of all too many of them is simply to get you to download the screen saver, or to visit the website where it's hosted, or to purchase the product it's bundled with; what happens after that, they doesn't care. Probably more people use them for entertainment than for monitor upkeep. Think about all those stupid "aquariums" you've seen where the ocean floor is essentially constant. So Strong Bad's screen saver is, in fact, an accurate representation: looks interesting, but does nothing (or makes matters worse). {{User:Bill/sig}} 14:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Yeah pretty much what Bill (wb!) says is pretty much right on the money. Case in point: my labmate has a cool-looking screensaver of this futuristic looking room with a flame in the center. Only the flame colors move. Nowadays I think the need for screensavers has been reduced significantly by that (sometimes) nice powersave feature modern monitors have. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:58, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad knows it's a Floppy Disk ==

In email #75 ("funny") he says "I can tape a floppy disk to my forehead". It's a 3.5" floppy. Just thought I'd point that out.
:Ooh. Now that's an observation worthy of a remark if ever there was one. Nice figuring. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== The Screensaver in general. ==

The screensaver is an obvious reference to the 3D Maze screensaver on windows 95 and later (I don't think it's on XP though), so why was my addition deleted? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 05:01, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:Your edit was reverted because that reference was already listed near the top of the Real World References. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Damn, I always do that (by accident) - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Holy crap!!! No cussing!!! {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}}
:It's not actually cussing. "Damn" was used in the title of the [[Third Games Menu]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 16:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:: Doesn't really mean it's not cussing. I just don't like that word. {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 04:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

== .5 or ½ ==

When refuring to floppy disk shouldn't their size be in fractions? For example 3½" floppy instead of 3.5" floppy. – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 05:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:I see 3.5 much more often that 3½ - [[User:Aaronstj|Aaronstj]] 09:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:Both are acceptable, and 3.5 is much easier to type. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
On [[Wikipedia:Floppy|Wikipedia]] its written as "5¼-inch" and "3½-inch". So I thought I would ask. – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 23:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Fixed. Wow, that's the biggest contribution I've made to the wiki yet! ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 02:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::I disagree with the validity of this change. Unless you can find a unicode or symbol code for "one-half", I don't recommend using it over decimal places. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::You can use &#188; and &#189; (the unicode values for the symbols already being used) <s>but there's no real advantage of them over the straight-up ¼ and ½, and they're harder to read in the wiki source</s>... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Wait... there's &frac12; and &frac14; – perhaps we should use them. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::We could indeed. It's probably eaisier to recognize anyway. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Well, it's good to see that at least my change wasn't reverted. You have no idea how discouraging it is when that happens, especially when you think you've made a valid contribution. We're told to "be bold" when editing articles, but... ~[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
::::::::Don't feel bad, Bruce. It takes time to "settle in". :) By being bold, you learn how to distinguish good edits from bad ones. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Cell Phone Videos ==

It seems to be at least worth mentioning that the President's of the United States vdieo for Some Postman was indeed filmed entirely with cell phone cameras, specifically 12 Sony Ericsson K750i [[User:Aaronstj|Aaronstj]] 09:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Hard Disk Description ==
isn't this a bit wordy and irrelevant. i always thought the difference between a hard disk and a floppy is that the read/write heads and contol circutry all come in a case with the disk platters for a hard disk not that the disk is internal and immovable, for example the Amiga 1200 had an optional external hard disk that was completely removable back in the early 1990's. A floppy is a floppy because its basically the disk platter in a protective sleve, with none of the technology required to read the data included with it.
:Technically, the term "hard disk" refers to the actual media itself. Floppy disks consist of a thin disk of flexible magnetic material (hence the name "floppy"), whereas a "hard disk" is just that: A hard, inflexible platter. A hard drive is a hermetically sealed box with the platters inside in order to protect the disk from dust and moisture (both of which can impede performance and even damage the media). And the HDD is usually non-removable because moving the unit around while it's turned on can cause alignment problems. Gyroscopic forces can also cause damage to the platter and the read-write heads, since the platters are usually always spinning. Hope this helps. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

==Whos that stupid?==
"You cannot actually fold a 5.25" floppy disk to make it work in a 3.5" drive. Attempting to do so will destroy the media." come on. you have to have an IQ to know that it wont work.i think it shoudl be deleted. {{unsigned|Darkstalker|}}
:You'd be surprised! There are COUNTLESS records of people doing stuff just like that - see [http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_drives.shtml The Computer Stupidities Website] for some examples. I used to work in a computer lab myself, and I saw people doing this sort of thing with my own eyes. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Skunk I love you! You just gave me hours of reading and fun. I can't wait to show this to my wife. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Glad to be of service! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::<blockquote>The night operator, apparently not sure if the problem was with the drive or the disc pack, stuffed the pack into the next drive in line, crashing that one, too, as the heads encountered the plowed-up aluminum from the first crash. He then proceeded to put that increasingly lethal pack into every single drive in the room, in some instances physically ripping the heads from their brackets.</blockquote>
::::Nice! Just absolutely NICE! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah! Actually, I didn't know it would destroy the media. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::I see anony's point about the obviousness of this fact, but the reason I think it should stay is precisely because of people who do crapfully crappy things like that above. Besides, for those of us who know better, it just gives us a chance to laugh at those who don't. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Quite. ''stupid is as stupid does'' {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::oops forgot to add my sig...im not an annony lol i just think that putting that remark isnt really neccassary. -[[User:Darkstalker|Darkstalker]]

== The computer in the poster takes 5¼ disks ==

Not only does folding a large disk to fit it into the drive not work at all, but the computer pictured on the poster that he holds the folded disk up to appears to have two 5¼" drives on the front, not 3½", so Strong Bad wouldn't even need to fold it. ~Garglfluz doesn't know how to do sigs

He said "New computers", not "Computers like the one in this poster". ~[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 10:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad actually said "'''these''' new computers" from what I could hear, and clearly indicated the computer in the picture (by pointing at it with the disk). Maybe I'm just arguing semantics, but I think Garglfluz's argument is valid. ~[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]

:[[Help:Signature|how to create sigs]] ~{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is the lappy takes 3.5" disks and he may be referring to that computer or computers like it since the lappy is "new technology" for him. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Nalgene ==

Pom Pom is not using a Nalgene because Nalgenes have flat sides. Once you zoom in it is obvious that this is not the case and that Pom Pom is drinking a store bought bottled water. - [[User:BlackWidower|BlackWidower]] 14:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:All Nalgene bottles do not have flat sides. See [http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/ their website] for examples. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::Whoops, you didn't mean flat as in rectangular prism, you meant flat as in a smooth cylinder. Yeah, it has a bumpy texture and that lends me to believe it is not a Nalgene. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:33, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah I meant flat as in smooth. Mine is round. - {{User:BlackWidower/sig}} 23:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Binary ==

Does the binary meen anything? {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:See the [[technology#Trivia|Trivia]] for that. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Sundance Film Festival ==

Does anyone else think the entry on Sundance is a little confusing? It makes it sound like Robert Redford ''and'' the Sundance Channel, whereas I beleive the channel actually started much later.
:Sundance is an annual independent film festival in Park City, Utah, founded by actor Robert Redford and also a US pay cable television channel showing similar films.
Maybe change it to:
:Sundance refers to an annual independent film festival in Park City, Utah, founded by actor Robert Redford. Sundance is also a US pay cable television channel showing similar films.
Including the appropriate links, of course. —{{User:Jqubed/sig}}
:well, is the subdance channel related to the film festival?--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::It's related, both are connected with the Sundance Institute, but the film festival started in 1978, when it wasn't called the Sundance Film Festival, and the Sundance Institute wasn't started until 1981. They didn't even start managing the festival until 1985, and it wasn't renamed until 1991, although Robert Redford seems to have been involved since the beginning. I can't find a start date for the channel, but can't imagine it being around until much later than 1978, and probably more along the lines of the festival changing names or even later than that. —{{User:Jqubed/sig}}

== super bowl dealie ==

I proposed the following real-world reference and it was reverted:

''Coincidentally, six days after the release of this email, there was a commercial that aired during Super Bowl XL on Sunday February 5, 2006 that featured a robot destroying a city.''

I thought this was a good real-world reference and being that the Super Bowl is the biggest commercial day of the year AND right after this email that it warranted note. Also I think that this is consistant with our comment in [[Fall Float Parade]]. Thoughts?
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

:Try putting it in [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]]. You'll get a bigger response there than here. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::but it's not a fun fact, I don't think its proper to STUFF it. correct me if I'm wrong. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

:::It's not a fun fact? Why was it in the Fun Facts section? ;)
:::It's okay. Go ahead and STUFF it. This is the kind of stuff STUFF was made for. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:47, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::::It's [[Template:STUFF/technology|STUFF'd]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:03, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

== Wireless Extension Cords? ==

Are working wireless extension cords actually possible? And if you think so, tell me how they would work.
:Impossible. Electricity can't be sent through the air. And even if it could, I would think doing so would be dangerous, as anyone walking through the airborne electricity would be electrocuted. ~[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
::Sorry Bruce, that's just not right. Of course you can "send electricity through the air" in the form of electromagnetic waves. The entire point of radio is to induce a small current in an antenna at the receiving end, and these days you can get a cordless mouse that powers itself through induction from a special mousepad. The real problems with "wireless extension cords" would be efficiency, and secondarily safety. Efficiency because EM waves are usually going to spread out over a large area, so a receiver would only ever receive a tiny fraction of what the transmitter puts out, and safety because if you either boosted power or used a suitable antenna to focus the signal to usable levels, the energy between transmitter and receiver would probably cook (not electrocute) you. --hobbs.

:::It is possible to send a high-voltage, moderate-current arc through the air over short distances, but not long ones - you'd have to create an EXTREMELY high voltage in order to conduct a decent amount of electricity over any appreciable distance, and then you'd have the problem of not only unpredictable electricity arcing everywhere, but you'd be expending a lot more energy on the "sending" end than it would be worth.
:::Why do you think lightning is so unpredictable and so dangerous? Air is an extremely poor conductor of electricity. Electromagnetic waves are a bit different, but you still can't send those at levels sufficient to provide operating power over any appreciable distance. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

:Sounds like the usual Bubs scam to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::No such thing Stu, no such thing. But seriously, take it from a trained electrician. '''Everything that requires power has to be connected through wires or conductor to eventually a power source, such as a battery, a generator, or a Power Station.''' (Glad I could finally use my career somewhere around here, granted it's not as useful as "computer programmer" or "flash animater" or anything). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:00, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Wireless extension cords *would* work. Just wrap the room in a huge coil and connect it to an AC power source. Then any metal in the room would have an induced current in it. Put another coil in the appliance and tweak the number of turns, and you could power stuff wirelessly. It'd be like working inside an MRI... However there's no *sane* way to wirelessly transmit power - the safe power levels for radio signals are much too low to run anything off. The 2.4GHz [[Wikipedia:ISM band|ISM band]] for example has a 100mW limit before you need to buy a license to transmit (taken from [[Wikipedia:Wi-Fi#Disadvantages of Wi-Fi|here]]) - that's a tenth of a Watt. For comparison, a computer uses around 300-400W and (Australian) power points are rated for as much as 2400W - many orders of magnitude higher than the 100mW you can get from wireless. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Interestingly enough, this was one of the things that [[Wikipedia:Nicola Tesla|Nicola Tesla]] tried to achieve during his lifetime. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::::A more specific article on the subject: [[Wikipedia:Magnifying transmitter|Magnifying transmitter]]. I think this is worthy of a mention in the main article. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::What about this? http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 02:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's pretty funny. :) I especially like the "no suing" under the "availability" heading. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:They would probably cause cancer, i mean what doesnt nowadays? [[User:Jmoney|-Jmoney]] 03:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== semaphore ==
does strong bad say anything with is semaphore looking movements at the beggining of the email? {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
:If that's semaphore, then it's gibberish. Just so someone else doesn't spend such a colossal waste of time, I will inform you that in semaphore, Strongbad's movements spell "NSRSNS?NRQVERU". (The ? indicates a position that is not in the semaphore alphabet as far as I am aware.) I even tried to see if there was a pattern relating the movements to the ones and zeroes he was saying, but if so, it's beyond me. I think that one can be chalked up to random gesticulating. -Brucker
::Wow, pretty impressive! I bet I'm pretty impressed! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=technology&diff=318513&oldid=318512 This anonny] seems to think it's "NSRSNSBNRQD_R_", which a bit different from yours... so which is it? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Does it matter? Whether it's semaphore or not, it's still gibberish. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Singing in Binary ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's sequence of "10011011011001" may well have been inspired by the song "10001110101" by alternative rock band Clutch.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)|22:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|20|0|technology}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== According to my Cakkalater ===
{{stufffact|The Cakkalater is a reference to how Strong Bad pronounces "calculations" in [[space program]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)|20:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)|accepted|12|7|technology}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Gank this fact ===
{{stufffact|In [[Wikipedia:MMORPG|MMORPG]]'s, [[Wikipedia:Gank|gank]] is slang for a player attacking and killing another player who is at extreme disadvantage.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)|13:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|declined|11|5|technology}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Robots In Japan ===
{{stufffact|The comment about robots destroying Japan refers to a popular genre of film in which major cities are destroyed by giant monsters and robots. The best-known example of this genre is [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]].}}
{{stuffverdict|02:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)|13:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|accepted|14|7|technology}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Robots In Service ===
{{stufffact|The comment about robots serving hors d'oeuvres may be a reference to the 1986 film [[Wikipedia:Short Circuit (movie)|Short Circuit]] in which several of the robots are shown serving different food items, or the [[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars]] film [[Wikipedia:Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi|Return of the Jedi]] where [[Wikipedia:R2-D2|R2-D2]] serves drinks on [[Wikipedia:Jabba the Hutt|Jabba the Hutt]]'s sail barge.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)|13:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined, 17–1. A proposed revision was also declined|10|7|technology}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Super Robot Bowl XL ===
{{stufffact|Coincidentally, six days after the release of this email, there was a [http://www.adrants.com/2005/08/godzilla-has-a-hummer.php commercial] that aired during Super Bowl XL on Sunday February 5, 2006 that featured a robot destroying a city.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:01, 6 February 2006 (UTC)|01:46, 9 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|3|technology}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Save that screen ===
{{stufffact|The [[Wikipedia:screensaver|screensaver]] won't actually help the Lappy's [[Wikipedia:Liquid crystal display|LCD]] screen — only older [[Wikipedia:Cathode ray tube|CRT]] monitors need screensavers.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)|01:33, 9 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|19|6|technology}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Food Court of Public Opinion ===
{{stufffact|Food Court is probably also a reference to the kind of seemingly irrelevant places you find gangs of teenagers congregating while making use of their phones, Strong Bad often makes very accurate commentary on certain types of people like this, especially in the last email, secret identity. Food Courts are indoor plazas containing numerous different vendors of different foodstuffs, almost like an opened-out mall just for food.}}
{{stuffverdict|19:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)|06:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|18|0|technology}}

== what was wrong with what i added? ==

The part about robots and Japan?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

:There is already a comment about "robots destroying Japan" in the [[technology#Explanations|Explanations]] section. If you scroll up to [[#Closed STUFF]], you'll see that another fact about "robots serving hors d'oeuvres" was suggested, voted on, and declined (we [[HRWiki:STUFF|do this occasionally]] for fun facts if we are unsure whether the community considers them noteworthy). (For future reference: the edit being discussed is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=technology&diff=prev&oldid=279387 here].) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== cu l8r? ==

:*When Strong Bad says "see you later" to the departing Pom-Pom, he's probably referring to "c u l8r", an easy phrase to text message. This would tie into his mention of cell phones as originally being used to send misspelled messages.

I'm not so sure about this. "See you later" is a common phrase, one that would logically be said in this scene. Most of the "misspelled messages" shortened for cell phone text chat are common phrases that would often be said in the presence of someone using a cell phone. This connection isn't even strong enough to be called a coincidence, it's barely a connection at all. As far as I can tell, the reason he says it is to try to be cool. Think about the way the scene is constructed. Pom-Pom made a movie, and discovered that it's going to be shown at an internationally renowned film festival. He dons a pair of shades and starts drinking out of a water bottle, stereotypes of his newfound fame. Strong Bad attempts to interact with him as a buddy, but is snubbed. He's trying to stay calm and casual, and still talk to Pom-Pom (who likely isn't listening anyway) in that casual manner. By saying "see you later", he's trying to convince us that he's still cool enough to be hanging out with Pom-Pom some time in the future.

If you have to go to the bathroom, and you tell someone that you'll "be right back", and it just happens to be a few seconds after explaining some common IRC abbreviations to a friend, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're making a reference to "brb".

Just a thought. - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 15:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Apostrophe ==

I added a goof about the apostrophe in "appreciate it's", and it was reverted. The plural really should be rendered without an apostrophe (i.e. its). This has nothing to do with "its", the gender-neutral pronoun, and therefore falls under rules of pluralizations: It would mean "appreciate it is" with an apostrophe. Strong Bad treats "appreciate it" as a noun and, "makeshift" or otherwise, it ain't needing no apostrophe.--[[User:Yossarian|Yossarian]] 10:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe he should update "Strong Bad's Rhythm 'n' Grammar" for makeshift nouns? "Oh, if you want to be possessive or make a fake noun, it's just I-T-S, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's I-T-apostrophe-S...scalawag." No, that doesn't sound too good...-[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 04:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:A common way to pluralize a word used as a thing in itself is to use an apostrophe. Compare to saying there are three 8's in my phone number, where 8 is used as a thing, not the number 8. Style guides disagree on this point, but there's enough confusion that it can't be called a goof. If it was phrased in such a way as to mention that some style guides say that form of pluralizing a word used as a thing is wrong, it could be mentioned in Remarks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The "goof" is wrong, "its" is possessive and thus doesn't make any sense in this context. Alone yes, "it's" does mean "it is", but he is using it as a noun, and adding an apostrophe to the entire thing to make it plural.

== K-nowledge? ==
Am I the only one who thinks Strong Bad's not referencing anything when he says this, and instead, just being an idiot?

== Oboe Shoes ==

Honestly, who actualy tried to spell out oboeshoes on their calculator. I NOT ONLY did that but I ALSO memorized the combo for it...
530453080... Good fun. -Jomsar (Jmoney)

== Some one confirm ==

Hey will someone confirm and add that strongbad's head is the same color as the chalk board, and when he says magic it blends together. If so will some one els post it. I have had issues with posting in the past and dont want to mess it up. Thanks -[[User:Jmoney|-Jmoney]] 03:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Uglinessman

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:43:32 GMT

Uglinessman: genesis

Talk:radio

Uglinessman — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:32:53 GMT

Uglinessman: bullets are not for indentation

==Why the Revert?==
I made the addition/edit to the Easter Eggs of:

*Clicking and holding on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display LCD screen] of the [[Lappy 486]] will cause a concentric ring of discoloration to occur, imitating the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization#Observing_polarization_effects_in_everyday_life polarizing effect] pressure has on an LCD display.

Yet this was reverted back and the revert stated that:
: (I think Firebird would go insane if s/he saw this... ;-))

Who is Firebird and why would said person go insane over the inclusion and edit I made?

And what is wrong with the edit itself? [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 18:17, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

: Because it is a) not appropriate for the radio page (try the [[Lappy 486]] page), and b) it gets added OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, and c) you're supposed to put new Fun Facts for radio on the [[STUFF]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:22, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
:: Okay, last one was a mistake (I thought the STUFF stub was on this e-mail like it was for [[virus]].) Still... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:24, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::: Might buy the first point, but it isn't a "fun fact", but an Easter Egg and an explanation of said easter egg. And was not aware that there was some "pre-approval" process regarding editing pages. I have been a long-time contributor to several various wikis (topic-specific as well as the Wikipedia itself) and this is rather an antithesis of the wiki collaborative norms. [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 18:27, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::: I already said the third point was moot. Anyway, it was the first point that was the important one. And if you'd been here for as much as one week, you know we have a BIG problem with useless edits on recent emails, hence the STUFF page. It's not strictly enforced, but any "Fun Fact" (yes, we've already established that it was an Easter Egg you were talking about) that's even slightly controversial just clutters up the page. And, as was stated with my second point, we've seen that "Egg" listed over and over and over and over for both Lappy 486 emails - it gets deleted every time, but then someone adds it back. Well, we can't put it on the page for EVERY Lappy email - there are likely to be dozens! It's the second point that would cause Firebird (a mod who HATES that "Fact/Egg") to go insane. And that, as they say, is that. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::: I had already clicked to type my reply when you posted your "oops" one. This was my first set of edits to HRwiki so I don't know "we" had a big problem with fun fact/easter egg edits. But cest le vie... not worth the hassle to participate here much more. [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 18:49, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::::Oh, that was my mistake there. Anyway, you don't need to merely take my word for it. Just wait for the next Strong Bad Email and check the page on the day it's released - go through the history if you must. There are almost guaranteed to be five hundred people trying to add facts like Strong Sad's first time smiling (again - and don't ask me the logic there), references that are EXTREME stretches, and "If you click on the Lappy's screen, it makes circles! Just like a real laptop!" I promise you. It WILL happen. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:54, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::::And I'm not trying to be mean or scare you away. I'm just telling it like it is. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:56, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
:::::::''"There are almost guaranteed to be five hundred people trying to add ... 'If you click on the Lappy's screen, it makes circles! Just like a real laptop!' I promise you. It WILL happen."''
:::::::I know this adds absolutely nothing to the discussion at hand, but...
:::::::'''''XDXDXD'''''
:::::::Anyway, yeah. That particular one wound up showing up SO frequently I had to add a comment to [[animal]] to tell people that WE KNOW ALREADY... and I'm not even sure that worked. Oh well, I tried.
:::::::That said, don't fret over it, considering how common this is occuring I wouldn't say it would be a particularly major deal. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:05, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Totebag==
The "fun fact" about the fate of Marzipan's tote bag isn't really that fun - it's a joke from the e-mail and shouldn't need to be explained.

==WA3D==
WA3D is actually an Amateur Radio callsign, currently registered to Timothy Yoho of Lock Haven, Pennsylvania (found via [http://www.qrz.com/callsign QRZ Callsign Database]).

==Over-kill==
All humor is more fun when explained. Like when news people explain their puns. They do a service to the very stupid.

==Highball==

If Homestar is holding a highball glass (albeit a short one), as Strong Bad's earlier comment would suggest, he might have [[Wikipedia:bourbon whiskey|bourbon]] in it - apparently it's a brown drink often served in highball glasses with ice. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:23, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Perhaps the alcoholic effects of said bourbon are the reason for the bag on his head. Or maybe he just wanted to be "a cool guy" like in [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]... --[[User:Bellatrix|Bellatrix]] 11:18, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Drugs==

Does it make sense to point out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28drug_culture%29 another interpretation of 4 and 20 stone]? This isn't the only drug reference the Brothers Chaps have made, but the Wiki seems to not point these out. (Another one was in the Strong Bad Email menu, when Coach Z says "you must smoke grass.")
:It isn't a drug reference! Like... at all. "stone" is a measure of mass.
::Right, but getting high is also commonly referred to as getting stoned. Ever listen to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesign_Theatre Firesign Theatre]? Not all drug references need to be perfectly direct, or not hidden in a dual (or triple) entendre.
:::That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If they had said pounds, would it have been a reference to British currency? The next argument will be about the use of 4 and 20 (as in 4:20), but that is as much a reference to the Gettysburg address as it is to weed. And everyone should sign their comments, so you can follow the thread of discussion. -[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
::::The context and phrasing behind the mention of "four and twenty stone" undeniably points to the British unit of weight. Furthermore, since this e-mail's writer is from Scotland, this adds further weight (as it were) to the argument that it's a reference to the aforementioned system. (Another, but far more vague connection, is that The Strong Bad has a vaguely British accent.) - Trev-MUN
:::::The "vaguely British accent" was actually a very very common U.S. East Coast accent in the 1930's, especially among the educated white-type people who would have had the privilege to be in broadcasting. Vague indeed. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:15, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
::::::That's an interesting note, except I don't recall hearing this type of accent ''at all'' from American 1930's broadcasts. Even the "very common educated East Coast" accent you mention, from examples I have heard, does not sound like this. At any rate, I'd say that it's apparent that The Strong Bad is British to some degree; his choice of using stones over pounds, the accent (farghwar@#*&!), and other tidbits (getting telegrams from Lord Elsington Hallstingdingdingworth ... okay, that might be a stretch, but it seems supicious) point in that direction. - Trev-MUN
:::::::Yes, I think you're right after all. Plus, The [[The Strong Bad| Sir Strong Bad]] page says English, anyway, so I guess that's an accepted point around here! --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

:Coach Z actually said "you must smoke crack" (or, possibly, "crash"). I find the drug references dubious though. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:12, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
::Nevertheless, in this case, "stone" means the unit of weight, and the line itself is a reference to the saying "the camera adds 10 pounds" -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

Did anyone else hear the sound of a bong hit near the end of the college radio section? I was sure that this would have been pointed out by now. Right before "an hour of chanting." {{unsigned|69.3.122.37|08:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)}}
:Assuming that sound is actually there (your signature would be a help to your credibility here) I doubt it would actually be intended to be a bong hit, seeing as it takes place in a college radio station where that wouldn't happen, as it might in a dorm room, etc. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
::Right before the words "an hour of chanting", I hear what sounds like the host flicking through a pile of paper, and then tapping/adjusting the microphone. Is that the sound effect you're referring to? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, maybe it was intentional, intending to wake up all you people who are always looking for double entendres to exaggerate and try to start insane rumors. That's part of the reason I don't do (AW CRAP) forums anymore. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

==Factual Deluge!==
Something really has to be done about the influx of fun facts to the newest emails... the very fact that we've had to divide it up into categories of references shows that the situation is getting out of hand. Perhaps something along the lines of closing fun-fact entries until 2 days after the premier of the email could be arranged. Thoughts? -[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
:Personally I see nothing wrong with an article having plenty of fun facts or reference notes attached. This is, after all, a Wikipedia. However, if most of them are stretches, that's a different case (such as the two fun facts suggesting that Crackotage and Senor Cardgage are both involved in this e-mail somehow). - Trev-MUN
:Have you seen the [[STUFF]] page? It's supposed to help filter bogosity. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
::Wish it helped, but daily, we get someone (and always someone different!) trying to add the Bruce Almighty "fact", even though it's ON the STUFF page ''AND LOSING!'' Even putting a comment on the page (visible only to those that are trying to edit the page) didn't help - they just put it in a different category. I'm tempted to repeat the comment in that other category, just because it has ticked me off that much. In closing, the STUFF page doesn't stop newbies from posting useless or false facts if they don't know the STUFF page exists. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:22, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
:::Yeah, Jay, I definitely know of your pain with the Bruce Almighty simpletons. Still I think the STUFF page probably DOES help a lot more than it hurts, and it has to help to keep mentioning it. Why not also put it in the Fun Facts section on the Standards page? We shouldn't keep it hidden from the newcomers who DO look there before editing (like I did). --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
::::That is a very good idea. Surprised it hadn't been thought of already. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:28, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

==The show's not just dangerous...==

Is it just me, or is the background music on the morning radio show (the part in Homestar's room) an obvious variant of the Dangeresque theme?

:Jeepers yur right!! - mashed potato jones
::I don't think so. It is vaguely similar, but it's different enough that I'd chalk it up to "coincidence". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:46, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
not totally, however it probably is one of the references, of which too many people guessed of too many.

==Squawk box==

I suggest this for speedy deletion - 'squawk box' is a phrase which is even defined on [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=squawk+box dictionary.com]. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:48, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
:I don't agree on the reference either. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 12:35, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Jar ==

The little dog jar in Marzipan's kitchen is from the sketchbook. He was an idea for Pom Pom's dog.

:His name is Trivia Time. It's been said over and over again.

== New Persona ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad seem to enjoy his radio voice in the easter egg more than the first time? He seems to be getting more comfortable using it (note the lingering smile)
:My guess is that he just hasn't snapped out of it at that point. Remember, it's not something he does voluntarily, as indicated by his reaction the first time. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 06:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

== College Radio... ==

Why is college radio getting such a bad rap? I personally have a college station,[http://www.wpgu.com WPGU,] in my town which is an amazing staion on the frequency of 107.1(breaking the frequency 87-91 stereotype) has very few(if any) bad hosts, and does NOT play an hour of chanting. EVER. Please discuss the opinions of college radio's quality here. Thank you.

:WPGU is run by the University of Illinois. That means that it has a budget, and professional employees. Similarly, I listen to KUNI, run by the University of Northern Iowa, which is an excellent station. Most states have at least one good college radio station, usually affiliated with that state's biggest public university. What you don't realize is that these stations are the exception to the rule. The vast majority of college radio is run on a shoestring budget using decades-old equipment by untrained (and unpaid) college students. In other words, "Dead air, um, dead air." [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 09:29, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

:P.S. Please sign your posts.
:P.P.S. Discussions like this really belong in the forum.

I have to agree, I used to do a show at the local university station 106.9 CHMA, and it was kinda "dead air, um, dead air."
As a side note, as I am typing this, I realise that I'm wearing a CHMA T-Shirt. Whoa! --SgtKeeling

== WSBD in Ohio?? ==

I only found one page referencing a WSBD talk radio station in Cleveland Ohio. However, there is a WSPD in Toledo, Ohio. I also found one reference to a WSBD in Toledo. No WSBD appears in any of the Ohio radio listings I've come across, either.

:I live in Georgia, and a talk radio station goes by WSBD. --Ben

==Rejected Fun Facts==
===WSBD in Ohio===
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
===Location===
'''ACCEPTED'''
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===German Radio? ===
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

== Did you just say "zabbitablough"? ==

I changed blabittablough to zabbitablough to reflect the [[Quote of the Week]]. Now, some people say that it is performed differently or something, but if you listen closely, he does say it in the same way. I'm pretty sure, however, that Strong Mad does, indeed, say blabittablough (adding to the joke), so I left that as is. Please comment before reverting (as you always do).

:I heard "blabbitablaough". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

== Radio show host ==

Is Strong Bad a radio show host? Because of how Strong Sad is actually recording the "hour of chanting". I think this might mean that Strong Bad is a radio show host of many kinds.

Um, I think this was just in Strong Bads imagination, so it doesn't mean that Strong Bad is an actual radio show host. But it does make a little sence- but not mny things do in the Homestar Runner universe. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:39, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Clickable area for Test Sentence is a Goof ==

{| style="background:orange" border="1"
|After the test sentence disappears, you can still click where it was to show the children's book.
|}

Why is this statement being kept in the Easter Eggs section and not mentioned as a Goof? The fact that the easter-egg clickable area remains there when the words disappear seems "goof-ish", as in, TBC forgot to remove the link after the sentence disappears. But when I tried to mention this as a goof, you guys reverted it. What's the basis for keeping it in the Easter Eggs section? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:11, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Yo yo yo? ==

MIKE: Did they give yo things?

I don't have the DVD; is this a goof or is it right? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== LIVE RADIO ==

Should there be a mention of the fact that it would have been highly unlikey for Old-Timey Strong Bad to hear his voice broadcast given that the vast majority of radio in 1936 was live? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== SBD? ==

Doubt this is an intentional joke, but WSBD ''could'' be named for the classic [[Wikipedia:Flatulence|passing of gas]] known as the SBD for "silent but deadly". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. It's clearly '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''d'''.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, that makes sense. (Or course, if it were '''K'''SBD, I would expect it to refer to San Bernardino, CA.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== AM Morning Crude Crew ==

I think the AM Morning Crude Crew is a reference to The Regular Guys on the Atlanta radio station [http://www.96rock.com 96 Rock], anyone else agree, or should I STUFF it--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
:Are they the ''only'' crude show on Atlanta radio? Do TBC listen to them? There's a lot of uncertainty here. What about when they grew up in Indiana, or when they went to college, or when Matt lived in New York? They may have listened to other crude shows then. Like the Bob and Tom show, etc.? This is more likely a reference to nothing in particular. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, the Regular Guys are pretty much the only crude radio show in Atlanta. And just so you know, the Bob and Tom show is a nationally syndicated show that 96 Rock used for that period of 2 or so months that they kicked the Regular Guys of the air for their shenanigans. It's definitely not rock solid fact, as you said about all their colleging and stuff, but I think Benol might have something there.- [[User:Alphaniner|Alphaniner]] 03:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== Marzipan blinking ==

Taken from the [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] article:

{| style="background:orange" border="1"
|...Marzipan ... blinking causes her outline to be intruded.
|}

The same happens in this email. Am I right? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

== Name of Emailer ==

His name is Fraser, but am I the only one who hears Strongbad say "Frasier" both times he mentions the name? Possible goof?[[User:Tbone762|Tbone762]] 17:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
:Are we sure how the emailer pronounces his name? Can we even make a call here? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

== Are - A ==

In this email I think that SB says "My friends are radio..." ad "My friends a radio..." will someone confirm, I am not sure. Thanks, [[User:Jmoney|-Jmoney]] 14:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Addition to auto lights remark ==

I believe that this:
*Homestar must have his lights set to come on with the radio alarm at 7:00 am; strangely, he is already up and having a drink (though this may just be typical clueless Homestar behavior).
To this:
*Homestar must have his lights set to come on with the radio alarm at 7:00 am; strangely, he is already up and having a drink''''', ''somehow ''through'' a totebag''' (though this may just be typical clueless Homestar behavior)''.
Or something to that extent or that gets that particular point across. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

== Radio Station remark ==

I believe the following article is obsolete:
*The station "902 WA3D FM" cannot exist under current [[Wikipedia:Federal Communications Commission|FCC]] radio regulations. The call sign WA3D is an [[Wikipedia:amateur radio|amateur radio]] call sign; commercial broadcasters do not use numbers in their call signs. The "902" presumably refers to the 90.2 MHz frequency in the FM broadcast band; however, frequency allocation rules require the last digit to be odd.
This is only fact because TBC live in Georgia, where every station, radio or TV, has a "W" in front of it's name. Also, some radios ''can'' use even and odd decimals, some of mine even use 1/20 MHz specificity. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

Talk:isp

Uglinessman — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:48:11 GMT

Uglinessman: bullets are not for indentation

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

:::Get rid of it?

==Phone cord==
[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

::::::meh meh meh meh meh meh meh translation: i say its a refrance [[User:Mr.Cheaterson]]
:::::::Based on the fact that pretty much all telephones are disconnected, I'd say it was on purpose.[[User:the_snitch_2 I pwn]]

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.
::I'd recommend putting a footnote after the word in the transcript saying that it could be either. I'd put it there myself, but I don't know how, and my search for help has been fruitless. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Here's my logica-thingy that proves it's "Or": If Homestar had been able to steal Strong Bad's personal identity by typing in his number, then it would easily be accesible whether he's on the phone with Strong Bad or not. It might be harder to find him if Bubs had a lot of customers, but according to him, Strong Bad is the only one. Also, Homestar has a tendency to piece together words that are similar to the ones he wants. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::My money's on "or." I don't hear an "F" sound, plus it's just like Homestar to come up with a ridiculous non-sequitur sentence like that. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::meh meh meh meh meh meh meh translation: I hear "or" [[Mr.Cheaterson]]
:I heard "for" as well. It could have been "or" for non-sensical humour as The Mu|Da M-izz-u suggests, but it could also be "'''for''' identity theft" for the humour in the fact that he's asking for his account number so he can use it to steal his identity. Just my two cents.

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::meh meh meh meh translation: for cheats sake he's saying "bousem" in a strang way

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
:::If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on [[Sound Effects]], though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"

Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on [[Strong Bad's Website]] {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:STUFF'd. Like I said, I'm not positive on this one, but it's worth a discussion. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not so Magical ==

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

<blockquote>This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.</blockquote>

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::It is also [[car|patently false]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, [[12:00]] doesn't have any letters, just numbers. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::: 12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::::Aw, crackles. I forgot about [[car]]. Totally my bad.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wired Pom Pom? ==

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

:It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::He [[technology|doesn't]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I said "Pom Pilot", not "Pom Pom". I'm saying that his PDA doesn't look like the kind of PDA that functions as a phone. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call! ==

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

'''Customer:''' "Hello, is this Tech Support?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" 
'''Customer:''' "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" 
'''Customer:''' "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." 
'''Tech Support:''' "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" 
'''Customer:''' "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it." 
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive.
[[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::: Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
::: that one is true, just the ending is false and incomplete. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::: Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of [[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

*Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See [[Talk:technology#Whos that stupid?]] for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Of course, the fact could still be there, stating that the line references a common urban myth. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::As Kiefer said, it ''is'' a [http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/wordperf.htm legend]. Note that it [http://www.snopes.com/info/glossary.asp does not matter] whether or not it ever actually happened to be classified as a legend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Anybody else notice on that page that the author's nickname has a 'd in it? --{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 07:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== The incredible vanishing trivia ==

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.
:Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]]
::This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.
:::Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say is that if the wiki community can't agree, it should be STUFF'd. That seems to be the case, because the fact is back up. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Datum? ==

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- [[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]]
:I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.

::It wasn't just old-style movies; people really did (and do) put an -um (or -im) suffix on the end of words. Only verbs, though. It's a transitivity marker (iirc) that shows up in certain pidgin and creole Englishes. (I believe you'll find it, for example, in [http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tok_Pisin Tok Pisin]) I don't know, myself, if actual American Indians ever actually talked like this, but it's a common feature of pidgin Englishes, and thus something that writers of Westerns could have immediately seized upon when trying to write "native talk". [[User:67.171.71.112|67.171.71.112]] 05:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

::I was pretty sure that it was a pun on Data, since Datum is an alternate plural form of data. [[User:69.19.14.21|69.19.14.21]] 16:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, data's the plural and datum is the singular. Though you almost never hear it used appropriately ("These data are shocking!"). And yes, when Bubs says it first it's kind of a joke about that. We're talking about the tone of voice Strong Bad uses. And yeah, 67.171.etc, I've heard that in Jamaica they tack "-dem" onto singular nouns to make them plural. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

== speech impediment ==

Under Remarks:

''When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.''

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

:I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::But Homestar doesn't say "R"s.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zzzzz... ==

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --[[User:GLO3|GLO3]]
:I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo ==

I added [[Image:homestar_pshh]] in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in [[Cool Things]] when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

:We have [[Talk:garage sale#Eyebrow? (DECLINED)|precedent]] in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

::Oh ok I see now. 
::Eww, you love me. =P - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Motion blur ==

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

eh... in my opinion its too minor and not really an interesting fact. we dont have to mention eeeeevery style similarity between cartoons.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 21:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hold music vs. car alarm==

Possible [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Homestar_Runner_running_gags Homestar Runner running gag] - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:He also does the theme from <strike>Knight Rider</strike> Night Court starring Richard Moll when you spin his buzzer (in [[car]]). And maybe when he did the "Back In Black" music intro in that one Answering Machine... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:COURT. Night COURT. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
::Right, right... That. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::"Back in Black" is the one I was thinking of. All-time classic. Anyway, is this enough for a running gag page? I'll create it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::What would you call the page, out of curiosity? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Homestar Singing? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::That would be my suggestion too. It's not perfect, but it's more concise than anything else I came up with. Homestar Sound Effects would be a decent alternative. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That was already [[Talk:Running Gags#Homestarrunner sings|suggested and declined]]. We have a full page for all the songs on [[Songs]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That barely looks declined to me. I'd say go for it. It's a more intelligent page than something like Strong Mad Smiling. >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::[[Homestar Singing]] is up. I suggest we take further discussion over to its [[Talk:Homestar Singing|talk page]]. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 15:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rodent hand gesture ==

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?
: Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, it does say "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" in those large yellow letters. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== missing arm ==

I'm not sure if this should go in "goofs" or "remarks", and I'm not sure of the best way to word it, so I'll just describe my observation and let someone else put it in the article (if it's deemed worthwhile). When watching the flash file, I noticed that right after Strong Mad declares himself to be a website, when we see Bubs and Strong Bad laughing, Bubs' right arm (the one out of frame) is missing. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 22:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's neither a goof or a remark, it's a Flash artifact, and therefore non-notable. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this happens nigh-universally in H*R toons when a major body part of a character is totally offscreen for an entire scene. Arms vanish, legs vanish, objects vanish, and sometimes a limb will even get duplicated. Unless something that has no excuse to be there is seen (like the right-hand Homestar's mustache in [[Senorial Day]] or some of the items that never appear on-camera in [[garage sale]]), it shouldn't be in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::And in some of these instances, not only are they noteworthy they are actually classed as Easter eggs. The Mustached Homestar mentioned above, and the signing of the ancient fence paintings from [[myths & legends]] being two examples. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Speaking of out-of-frame stuff, I noticed that at the end, there's a small square off to the left that gets highlighted before the easter-egg "O", but it doesn't appear to do anything. Again, this is likely not something to be included in the article, but does anyone know what it is, or perhaps what it was supposed to be? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 08:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Bubs ==

Just throwing it out there: "old man Bubs" related to "[[Fall Float Parade|old mista Bubs]]"? {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}}
:Bubs is often described as old, isn't he? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Sweet Cuppin' Rodents? ==

Is it just me, or does the song the song that plays when the breakdancing mouse appears sound a bit like the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes theme? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's just you. The sweet cuppin cakes theme, to me, seems to be just some random notes on a guitar. This theme is something rhythmically dissimilar that's also in a major scale (with the odd dominant 7th thrown in). I see no similarity. --[[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]] 15:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Possible (obscure) reference during SB's dusk walk ==

I don't know if it really is a reference, but the scene where Strong Bad is silhouetted walking against a dusk background reminds me a lot of the opening sequence to the show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4tv.com G4tv.com]. The show was cancelled back in December but the Brothers Chaps have appeared on G4 several times and the reference would be appropriate considering the internet theme of the email. --[[User:68.239.3.215|68.239.3.215]] 02:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

:Probably not. Silhouetting is pretty commonplace in cartoons and media in general. Though I'm surprised nobody tried to link this to [[Old Intro 2]] yet. Seems that always happens whenever a silhouette scene is shown... -{{User:YK/sig}} 03:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

::... and... it turns out someone did. *sigh* -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Also in the transcript, it talks about Strong Bad being out of breath from marching...I don't think that it is he is out of breath as much as it is he is just angry...or at least that's what I thought from watching it...- [[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]] 03:36 PM, 5 June 2006

== Bubs' other rip offing ways ==

Bubs said that he had 99 ways to rip people off, right? Like in the Broken Compy menu. He possibly ripped off Homestar to buying the Broken Compy. Plus let's not forget Bubs selling the old and borken Tandy to The KOT that wasn't working. So all I'm saying is, what other things that Bubs ripped off from other people?
:Ripping people off and being a con artist is pretty much how Bubs makes his living, really. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::To anony: See [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== GIF Sizes ==

From Remarks: ''The animated gif Strong Bad was downloading was a mere 10 seconds long. An animated GIF that long takes up less than 100 KB. Therefore, his download speed is about 0.0003 Kilobytes/second.''
In this case that estimate may very well be true, but the size of any GIF animation depends on frame count, frame size, and optimization. A ten-second GIF could easily be much larger than 100K if it contained many or large frames. This one does not appear to contain either until the end, when the smooth text implies a greater resolution than had the pixelated rodent. That can probably be ignored, though, since I don't think the Lappy 486's resolution can support text that smooth. It's like that Homestar Hair JPEG Strong Bad pulled up once. Any way, assuming the image is under 100K, there still needs to be some indication that its small size and slow frame rate make it so. -[[User:AndromedaRoach|AndromedaRoach]] 01:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
:The GIF (used [http://notrlybreakdancing.ytmnd.com/ here] as the background image) is actually about 150K. So there you go. -[[User:AndromedaRoach|AndromedaRoach]] 01:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, that looks like it has a few extra frames at the end to make it loop, which the GIF in the toon lacks. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== Rings ==

Is it worth mentioning as a goof that the 'cute breakdancing rodent' is only wearing those gold rings when he makes the peace sign-like gesture? [[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]]

== Lappy Back ==

Is this the first time we see strongbad working at the lappy from this angle when he is talking to homestar on the phone? I have never seen it like this before -Guest
:Dear Guest... Sort of. From the remarks section: "While the first time we saw the back of the Lappy was in the email [[part-time job]], this is the first time we have seen a clear view of the various ports and inputs on the back of the computer." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::The animation is also better whith the whole flip around thing and such-Guest
:::I agree. The Brothers Chaps have honed their animation skills into a very impressive craft. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm wondering if the RJ-45 ethernet jack is too modern for a 486 laptop, or if it would more likely use coaxial cable instead. Actually, he'd be more likely to use an RJ-11 phone jack with a modem since he's working with 1200 baud, but we never see a modem, and he can still make phone calls while connected, so we can assume it's an invisible network cable that does all the work. The other port might be parallel or pcmcia, and the round port looks like a modern mini-DIN serial connector more than the larger 5 pin DIN connectors that were more common.
:::::No, RJ-45 ports have been around for far longer than the 486. However, I think it's unlikely that he'd be using one. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== GIF Music ==

Is it just me or did the gif music sound the same as homestar's hold music? — [[User:Spidy92|Spidy92]]

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Sub Standard Fact ===
{{stufffact|1=The Easter egg showing Homestar's weight in CDs uses the first image on [http://www.subcentral.ch/t_history.htm Sub Central's history page] as a background. At the time this email was released, it was one of the first results for a Google image search for "[http://images.google.com/images?q=empty%20room empty room]".}}
{{stuffverdict|23:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)|01:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)|accepted (patently true)|10|1|isp}}

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=== One of the 99 Ways I STUFF This Fact! ===
{{stufffact|When Bubs says, "That's not one of the 99 ways I rip you off!", he could possibly be referencing to the [[Wikipedia:Jay-Z|Jay-Z]] song 99 Problems, in which Jay-Z says in the chorus "I got 99 problems but a [expletive] aint one."}}
{{stuffverdict|05:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)|15:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|19|1|isp}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== BCS Time Warner ===
{{stufffact|"The merger" is a reference to America Online's merger with [[Wikipedia:Time Warner#AOL merger|Time Warner]], generally regarded as a bad business move.|BCS Time Warner}}
{{stuffverdict|02:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)|15:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|18|3|isp}}

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=== Strong-Madlinking ===
{{stufffact|Strong Mad "sucking" all of Bubs' ISP's bandwidth could be a reference to the practice of [[Wikipedia:Hotlinking|hotlinking]].}}
{{stuffverdict|04:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)|22:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined, 16–1. A proposed revision was also overwhelmingly declined|11|2|isp}}

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=== There's a first time for everything ===
{{stufffact|This is the first time Bubs has been seen openly laughing. He previously suppressed his laughter at "Da Bee" in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], snickered once or twice in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], and merely chuckled in [[labor day]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)|20:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|20|0|isp}}

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=== Hampster Dancing? ===
{{stufffact|The "breakdancing rodent" Strong Bad tries to download is based off [http://www.hampsterdance.com/ Hampster Dance] a popular website from a few years ago which featured a number of animated [[Wikipedia:Hamster|hamsters]] dancing. This site spawned a number of imitators.
}}
{{stuffverdict|19:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)|20:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|2|isp}}

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=== Undisconnected ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad also checked an email in [[part-time job]] without any cables. It is possible that both these times, he downloaded the emails beforehand.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)|18:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)|automatically declined (patently false)|2|0|isp}}

== Is this a Matrix reference? ==

When Strong Bad calls tech support:
* We see an old-style telephone
* We hear the ringing bell of an old-style telephone (even though SB is calling ''out'' on his phone, and HR wears a headset that would ''not'' ring like that)
* SB picks up the telephone
* The camera does a blur-pan around the scene

Is my imagination overactive, or is this a deliberate reference to the ''Matrix'' movies?

:I really, really doubt it. That's way, so way out to lunch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Is your Internet Perry running? ==

:''Even though Strong Bad's internet is running slowly, he is able to bring up the email very quickly.''
This keeps getting added to the article as a remark. I don't have a problem with it, but I think it deserves some scrutiny. Let's suppose that Strong Bad's connection is so low-tech that each [[Wikipedia:Symbol (data)|symbol]] can only carry 1 bit of data, meaning his 12 baud is 12 bits per second. Let's further suppose that the email was about 900 bytes (counting headers). With those numbers, it should have taken him 10 minutes to download the message. For dramatic purposes, this kind of realism would be impractical, and it would give away the joke too early. On a less tangible note: I don't believe certain parts of the Homestar Runner universe exist until Strong Bad (via TBC) types them. That is, before Strong Bad pulled the email onto his screen, there was no Datum Center, no Strong Mad literally stealing Strong Bad's bandwidth, no breakdancing rodent. ''After'' Strong Bad types things (and if they fit with established canon), they retroactively exist if necessary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:Let's also entertain the possibility that the emails were already downloaded, so during the toon he's accessing them not from his email server but from his hard drive. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Compy Download ==
Is the computer in the download bar a Compy 386?

:I don't think there's any way to tell what type of computer it is. It's a tiny pixilated image and doesn't have any distinguishing features. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== The Homestar CD Background Image ==
Just in case nobody agrees that the image found [http://www.subcentral.ch/t_history.htm here] is the background, here's proof. TBC just flipped the image and brightened it for use with the easter egg. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrcdstack.jpg see!]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:Wow. Nice find. How did you come upon this page? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
::Not me, I just noticed somebody mentioned it and it got reverted then reverted back. So I just put this up for 100% clarification.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Looks like the image is one of the first results for a Google image search for "[http://images.google.com/images?q=empty%20room empty room]". -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:Nice work, BleedOrange!!! I'm the one who first spotted that that image was the background and added it to the page. The only reason I noticed was because [http://theabstractions.com my website] uses the same image! I too simply found it by googling "empty room." (Independently, I might add. My website is older than this email.) High fives all around! --Grant

==STUFF Closed so soon?==
I think the STUFF item about the empty room and the Homestar CD thing closed a little too soon. Shall we reopen? There were only a total of 11 votes. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
:It was pretty short; but still: 10 to 1 in favor in a very short time, and the one opposer agreed to have it closed. It hardly seems worth the trouble to reopen it when it seems to me there isn't a snowball's chance in Hades it would be declined. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Let Us Give Tanks!#Easter Eggs|Understandable!]] --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Right — I almost never close facts that quickly, but in this case the item was undisputably true, and the only opposer and submitter requested that it be closed. No reason to keep it open. It's good that you brought it up, though — in almost every other case, the facts should stay open for longer. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

==Picture please==
could someone post a savable file of the rat dancing please

Talk:the movies

Uglinessman — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:34:00 GMT

Uglinessman: goddammit, bullets are not for indentation!

==newb alert==
Sorry guys, I'm still new at this. I hate to leave my entries for others to clean up; I promise to learn more soon :) [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 07:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Don't sweat it. That's why wikis can be edited by anyone. Welcome aboard. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 10:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== ASCII movie ==

Could the ASCII movie possibly be a reference to this [http://geekswithblogs.net/btinkler/archive/2005/03/21/26915.aspx Star Wars ASCII Movie] [http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ (can also be seen here)]? I don't know how common full length ASCII movies are, but something tells me they aren't that popular. --[[User:Electricnet|Electricnet]] 07:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Could be, although it's kind of a stretch, seeing as the actual "movie" SB watches doesn't have anything to do with Star Wars; maybe if the movie was something sci-fi. I think, more than anything, it's just a reference to SB being hopelessly behind with technology, like when he refered to the Cheat's monitor as having its back chopped off, etc. But then again, what do I know? haha -- [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 07:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's likely not a specific reference to any one ASCII instance. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I was totally not aware of this movie, but HOLY CRAP it is amazing!!! Thanks for directing us to this! But, no, I don't think it is a reference.[[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 04:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised people are doubtful of this. How is watching an ASCII movie on your computer NOT a referance to that? [[User:Rexisfed|Rexisfed]] 19:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Chili's fajitas ==

This was probably rightfully removed — while the utensils are identical to those used at Chili's, I'm not surprised that they are used elsewhere. Also, the Mariachi band doesn't fit with Chili's. At any rate, the resemblance of the utensils is strong enough that I think it's worthy of posting on the talk page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
*The pans, wooden trays, and tortilla containers that accompany The King of Town's fajitas are the same style as those served at the popular restaurant chain [[Wikipedia:Chili's|Chili's]].

Just to verify that this is not a fun fact, I've seen identical platters at a local Mexican restaurant as well as an Indian restaurant. I guess they've become very popular lately.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 17:56, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I've been to three non-Chili's restaurants in the past year that used the EXACT SAME STUFF. Not a reference to anything in particular. --Steve Worek
:Plently of Mexican places do that and pretty much every time freshly-cooked fajitas are served, they put it in those types of dishes. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::It's just funny how you should say that because just yesterday I went to an Authentic Mexican restaurant, and the EXACT utensils were used. There is no reference to anything in particular, just Mexican food. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::And I was at about five last week. None of us got fajitas, but there's a Mexican restaurant in the town next to us that uses those same dishes. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, it seems it's settled then. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Wow, I'll say. Good work, guys! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Chili's is not a Mexican restaurant. It's continental. Just FYI. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Dangeresque 3 = Duke Nukem Forever (sorta) ==

For some reason, the Dangeresque 3 poster reminded me of a poster I once saw at the local gaming store of Duke Nukem Forever several, several, several years ago. I'm trying to do an image search to see if I can find it (with little luck right now). Anyway, when you think about it, the Dangeresque 3 poster has all those dates scratched off then it says "We'll See..." and Duke Nukem Forever had a buch of dates set, but had delays, delays, and delays, then finally, according to 3D Realms's site, it says [http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/ "When it's done."] - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 13:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

:That's what I thought. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Bwoken ==

I keep getting a 404'd when I try to watch this email. Is something wrong with the site, or did someone pour Mountain Dew on my computer again?

Hit Control + F5, that should do it. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 20:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Dangeresque Poster ==

Should I note (perhaps in "Remarks") that the pair of glasses on the Dangeresque 3 poster seems to be made for three eyes?

==Ice Cold Refreshment==

The "ice cold refreshment" trivia refers to [[Wikipedia: Coca-Cola|Coca-Cola]] games and trivia ads seen before a film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: There are plenty of companies that sponsor trivia screens. And plenty of ice-cold refreshments. I'm drinking a Pepsi as we speak. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::the red background with the filmstrip on the side is associated with coke. {{User:Csours/sig}} 21:06, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, coca cola is definitely the major sponsor of trivia things at the theater. it looks exactly like that -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 00:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, Coca-Cola is headquartered in Georgia. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

==Common Problems==

The most common problems with people talking during a film are:
# Giving away the plot during a suspenseful or comedic scene
# Commenting on every scene

[[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

: I think this is too high a level of "detail." There's not really an authoritative source to compare these statements to. I could, for instance, claim that the most common problem during movies is people making out. Or crappy movies. Doesn't seem like it's noteworthy enough for inclusion on the page. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::Forget it then. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== How much detail? What's a fact? ==
What is the standard for a "fun fact?" Some stuff seems kind of obvious or a stretch like
* "Please turn off your..." usually refers to cell phones and pagers.
* The refreshment trivia about popcorn pricing refers to the common problem with cinemas overpricing their food.
How do you decide if a piece of trivia is noteworthy or, well, just trivial? [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, those really explain the obvious. That's common for early stages of articles; everybody is simply adding everything they can think of. The week or so after the release of the toon is then usually spent debating which facts are important and which aren't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::You might take a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:: Those two "fun facts" leapt out at me as being outrageously unnecessary. Then I came here to find that duly noted. Someone be '''bold''' and remove them.

== Bet? Dare? Challenge? ==

After reading off the name and location of the e-mail sender, what is SB talking about when he tells The Cheat "Told you I could do it."? I'm assuming that he was just proving to TC that he could read the details without mangling them, but it might be some more specific inside reference that I'm not aware of. Either way, I think it deserves a mention in the "Explanations" section. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 17:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Seems obvious that he was refering to his tendency to mangle names and places. Whether that's noteworthy, I leave it to others to decide. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::I concur. Ding! Er, I mean, yes, it was his tendency to mangle places and names. Note that he still mangles Cooper's name ''after'' he points out "Todja I could do it!" to The Cheat. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that part. "Oh, he finally got through a closing without messing it up!" Also, Cooper reminded me of Megas XLR. That show is kewl. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I took it to mean that he could get through one without making fun of it. Obviously he makes fun of some of the endings to the emails, but I think The Cheat may have thought he couldn't do it without making some joke about it. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 20:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

== Faceless Strong Sad ==

If you view the flash (.swf) file, right at the point where Homestar starts singing "Ever and more! Ever and more!", Strong Sad's face is BLANK. (He seems to lose his features the minute he goes off-screen.) It's off the left edge of the screen when viewing it "normally", so would that be considered a glitch or not? I'm not sure what the proper protocol is ...

In case you want to see what I'm talking about, here's a [http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8776/blankpn7.png Screen Shot] of it (hosted by ImageShack ...)

--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 18:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: We do not note "missing" objects outside the frame. The only times we note something unusual outside the frame is if it is something that does not appear in the 'toon itself, like some items in [[garage sale]] or the [[Mustaches|mustache]] in [[Senorial Day]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::Gotcha. Thanks! (Noted for future reference.) --[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 19:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Karate Car ==
Could the "Karate Car" movie be considered a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|Karate Kid]]?
:How? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::Well, obviously, the names are vaguely similar! Isn't it obvious? Note, that was sarcasm. I'm getting somewhat annoyed at all this "scraping for references" going on here these days... =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it's not "Karate Kid" therefore it is not a reference. But I see what you mean by scraping for references. Like, in unnatural Homestar makes a reference to chocolate cake from the previous email and everybody's like "Oh, it is not a reference, he only referenced to the exact thing that just happened last email, just like Strong Bad." --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::::No need to get testy, I was just trying to contribute...I'll try to stop "scraping for references."
I suppose the stick animation thing could be a reference to Xiao Xiao or other similar web based stick animations (particularly Xiao Xiao #8 where the character actually does flip over a moving car).
:After watching [http://www.xiaoxiaomovie.com/movie/movie08.htm Xiao Xiao #8], I see a few similarities, but nothing definite indicating a direct referance. I mean the cars are different (the villian in Xiao Xiao #8 appears to be in a SUV) and the manner of the dodge is different as well (ASCII Stickly Man did a dramatic frontwards summersault jump where as the hero in Xiao Xiao #8 appears to have jumped onto the hood and ran to the back of the villians car and hopped off). - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 14:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:I would think that, given the computer medium, its appearance and the name, it would more likely be a reference to Karateka, if, in fact, it is a reference at all.
::To the unsigned posted above. I made a post in [[Talk:Karate Car]] last night taking a guess as to what you may be talking about. - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 13:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, I was referring to the Broderbund game Karateka with my comment. My apologies for the lack of signature, as well, I didn't have an account at the time. But after reading your ideas, that actually works way better. [[User:Sabrewing|Sabrewing]] 22:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I too thought about the Broderbund game called Karateka, but then I recalled from my younger days of when I played on my neighbor's Famicom that there was no sort of car (sports car or otherwise) in the game. So I did a bit of research on the word "Karateka" and long story short, I typed it all on [[Talk:Karate Car]]. - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 00:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

==Forty-Twan? Forty-Twone? ==
Any reason for it to be 'twan' rather than 'twone'? It seems like Senor Cardgage is mangling the phrase 'forty-one' to me... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds like "twan" to me. Good luck making sense of a lot of stuff Senor Cardgage says. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::Hm, I think it's forty-twone. Like, a mini-[[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of "two" and "one". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Know what I think?? I think that the MOVIE everyone's seeing is called "Forty-Twone" and that Senor Cardgage and Strong Bad say, "'Forty-Twone' is on your LEFT.", like when movie peoples tell moviegoers where their specified theater is. I definitely hear an f in those sentences. -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 23:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC) (PS: This is now my favorite email! Yay, I have one!)

:Yep, I agree. Though Senor Cardgage always says things that are "almost one word and not quite another", what he's getting at is that theater number Forty-twhatever is on their left. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::I think that Senor Cardgage says "lest" and Strong Bad says "left"
:::They both say "lest" to my ears. SB seems to enunciate the "s" clearly on purpose. -- homsanymous
:::I think "twan" is better since it is pronounced that way. "Twone" sounds like "phone" to me. e.g. Twan is to Taiwan. Twone is to phone. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 16:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's a reasonable point. Perhaps "twon" then. It needs to reflect the fact that he's combining "two" and "one". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== Crowdbreaking ==
So maybe I just don't speak very good "Homestar Runner", but it sounds to me like he says "crowdbreaking" instead of "groundbreaking". [[User:Hrjogger|Hrjogger]] 23:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:It's groundbreaking. That actually makes sense in the context. Just for future notice, whenever you think a character says something that doesn't make sense compared to what we already have in the transcript, you probably just heard wrong. Thanks for posting your opinion, though! :) -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 23:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
No, I don't think he says "crowdbreaking", as there's no such thing. The "N" is clearly audible, and there's no "N" in crowd. Being that I've been to a couple of groundbreakings myself, I fully understand the sentiment of "what is the point of those things?" Plus "crowdbreaking" just isn't funny and doesn't make sense. So until next time, keep making stupid remarks, and I'll keep making fun of them. I mean, answering them. Preeeeow. 
[[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 23:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

==Please Turn Off Your==

"Please turn off your..." usually refers to electronic devices such as cell phones and pagers. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's already in explanations, why did you repeat it here? [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 00:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:Someone removed it. I'll put it back. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::I really don't think that needs to be explained. That's why I removed it earlier. Someone further up the page already noted that it is too obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

==The Cheat talks again!==

Doesn't the first thing that The Cheat say sound ironically like "Yeah, yeah."? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:The Cheat has done that before, it's no big mystery. -{{User:Stinkoman K/Sig}} 00:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== The Homestar ==

I think that Homestar singing "Ever More" is a reference to Edgar Allen Poe's "The Raven." Anyone agree with me?
:I'd have to say no, seeing as it doesn't make any sense whatsoever in this context. If "The Raven" was a song, and this was a Halloween toon, then it may have been plausible.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::For the record, "The Raven" was made into a song in the 1970s by the Alan Parsons Project. Which is a good song, but doesn't sound anything like what Homestar says.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:No, sorry. It's totally not in the right context, and "Ever and more" foesn't really sound like it would be from "The Raven," where the repeated words are "nevermoer" and "evermore" along with very similar permutations. I'd say that this is much too far of a stretch (Strong Bad could do cartwheels for as long as this is a stretch). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 04:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitle madness ==

Can anyone tell me why people have started adding subtitles that show one part of a quote at the left, then the second in the middle or right? It just seems really unnecessary to me. [[User:Tony Myers|Tony Myers]] 04:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:I don't see any subtitles being rendered side-by-side in this email. It might be my userscript is out of date (?). Are the subtitles being spoken by two characters? (Or, a soundeffect in addition to speech?). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

::He's talking about where sometimes in the script, the line is shown gradually, rather than all at once. It's generally used if the pieces are too small to make them a line of their own, but showing them all at once would spoil some punchline... though more often it's added for comedic effect (such as Homestar in [[long pants]]), and I agree that it's a bit overused in this way (every now and again is fine, but it doesn't need to be used every email). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Progrum? ==

In the transcript, the announcements says to turn off bazookas before the "progrum." This is, I assume, a phonetic rendering of the way the announcer pronounces the word "program" in the cartoon. My personal experience probably doesn't matter much, but I've heard "progrum" (as the announcer says it) used as a conventional pronounciation of the word "program." Perhaps a phonetic spelling isn't necessary?

BTW, this seems to suggest that the cartoon's pronounciation is conventional.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/program

:The transcriber noticed it because the word [[Progrum|progrum]] has been used before.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::I believe, unless something's specifically spelt out for us, we try to match what was said phonetically (a good example being Coach Z). Furthermore, "[[Progrum|progrum]]" is something of an inside joke on H*R. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes, that is an acceptable pronunciation; the only reason we spell it that way when we transcribe it is that [[:Image:sbinterview logo.png|it has appeared as such in print]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that, certainly; however, the page still calls it an intentional mispronunciation; since "progrum" is an acceptable pronunciation, perhaps it should be re-worded?

:That makes sense to me — I changed it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z is not my lover ==

Is it just me, or does [[Strong Bad]]'s singing of "Coach Z is not that cool" in the email intro sound very much like some parts of [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]]'s [[Wikipedia:Billie Jean|Billie Jean]]? See the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFC70EFBQQ music video at youtube] to have a listen. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, you're right! It does sound a lot like that line down to the beat of where SB goes "here comes an email" matching the lyric after that being "She's just a girl." - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 18:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::I concur. That's a VERY strong resemblance. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I refuse to watch anything Michael Jackson unless it was from before he got so creepy, so I'm not watching that video anytime soon. However, if you guys say it's a reference, go ahead and put it on the page. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 19:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, Billie Jean (the original release) was one of his first hit singles, back in 1983. Way before he started changing his skin tone and letting his fame get to his head. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Now that I actually watched it (and thought it was pretty cool), it's becoming abundently clear that ''this'' email is referencing that song. For sure. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 23:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Ahem. I was alive (and in college) (!) when Billie Jean was released. It's possibly a reference, but I think that's a real stretch. I think the next line, "Here comes an email," doesn't match up at all. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC) 
:I doubt it's a blatant reference, so much as a resemblance. In other similar cases, Strong Bad's song has "sounded like" the RWR song, but hasn't been close enough to it to count as a direct reference, and he usually concludes with something much more ad-hoc anyway. So this follows the same pattern. That's why I worded the RWR as "bears a strong resemblance to", not "is a reference to" or "parody of". {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds a lot like Spill the Wine by Eric Burdon and War. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Skunkguy, Michael Jackson didn't change his skin on purpose. He has vitiligo.
:He sure made a big deal about all the plastic surgery he was getting for it. Maybe in order to hide his condition? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:Vitiligo? You got a source on that? People with vitiligo usually have a blotchy, uneven loss of pigment. Michael's skin looks uniformly gray. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 19:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::There's no real reason to talk about this here. Internet forum/wiki/MySpace + Michael Jackson = many, many pages worth of posts. The email song sounds a lot like Billie Jean, so it deserves a mention at least. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 20:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I do want to leave a quick reply for Mike there, though: I was aware of MJ having a condition (didn't know what it was called) that caused splotchy skin pigmentation as you described. I have no issue with that. Nor do I have an issue with him getting a pigment job to hide these effects. What I did have an issue with was the big deal he made out of getting plastic surgery, along with his many other forms of general weirdness. ... That said, Brightstar Shiner is right, and we should move any further discussion about Jackson himself off of the wiki. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you guys sure? I am huge fan of MJ and to me it sounds '''nothing''' like Billie Jean... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bazoka? ==

Should we list "Strong Bad's Bazoka" under weapons? - {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:14 pm, Febuary 21st 2007.
:See [[Strong Bad's Bazooka]]. That's category is Weapons.--{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Wisecracking Transmission! ==

Just a thought, but Strong Sad's mention of "that commercial with the wisecracking transmission" might be a reference to the Cottmans Automotive commercials with the talking cars.
:You have a good idea there. However, there have been other commercials with talking cars. Chevron comes to mind. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 05:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

==Nokia?==

The tune Strong Bad hums sounds more like revely. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 23:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:Did you check out the Wikipedia page? Nokia itself claims that the Nokia tune is an original work, but if you listen to "Gran Vals," it's exactly the same. The nokia tune sounds nothing like ''Reveille'', at least to me.
::As a former bugler who played "Reveille" '''every darn morning''' I can assure you, this is NOT Reveille. It is, however, a clear reference to the Nokia ringtone. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

==Luked so Wilson?==

Okay, I have generally bad hearing, but in the easter egg it sounds to me like Homestar is saying that "cinema has never before listened so willingly." Makes more sense considering he was conversing with the screen.
:The reasoning is that the other Easter egg (the refreshment trivia one) also mentions Luke Wilson. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:: i originally thought it said lisped so wilson, but on further consideration, and after reading the other easter egg, i now agree h*r says luked. {{User:Csours/sig}} 00:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

== Weebl and Bob ==

This reference to Homestar's Viking hat and wobbling was removed and then put back in. It doesn't look like we have a STUFF discussion going on...any opinions on this? I personally am not familiar enough with the reference to make a judgement. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:If anyone cares to see the episode, you can view it [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/history6 here]. I don't think it's a ref. Homestar bobs back and forth all the time. Maybe if the hat obscured his view... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
::I looked at it for reference. In addition to not thinking it's particularly funny, I also do not think it's a reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I thinks its a reference to runescape's berserker helm, espesially as the trumpeter is wearing run e armor. but i know im a crackpot. {{User:Csours/sig}} 00:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
== two and one ==
when gron sad raises his finger, he does it in a weird order: frame 1400 {{User:Csours/sig}} 00:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:You're right, it looks as though he puts up his middle finger first and then his forefinger... I didn't notice that! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 17:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:: Unless we assume that was his [[Left Handedness|left hand]], which it looks more like it is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:::look at the thumb. also hold up your left had like strong sad and see how it looks. {{User:Csours/sig}} 21:11, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
:Definatly left hand. Immediatly following the camera change, Stong Sad is seen from the front putting his left hand down. -Eaglescout1984 15:05, 26 March 2007 (GMT)

== Another kind of Potemkin (sp?) ==

Besides the battleship, there's also a Potemkin in the Guilty Gear series, who is one hulking fighter. Yeah, I guess the character got his name from the battleship, but I thought that that fact should be pointed out.

or it could be making fun of translations from japanese 2 english, and "pokemon" (or however the crap u spell it)
:...how? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::The egg specifically says "''Battleship Potemkin''"... It's not going to be a reference to something else. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

== "Here comes an email" ==

The tune for the second line of Strong Bad's intro is pretty clearly the main riff of "Snail Shell" by [[They Might Be Giants]], just in a much lower key, as the low-pitched Strong Bad is singing it. Hear the song on Google Video [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5293960515227182374 here] (listen to the opening riff and the line "I want to thank you"). This would mark the second time that a SB Email intro is done in the style of a They Might Be Giants song, the first being [[different town]] with "Ana Ng" (which is already listed on that page). -[[User:69.122.203.50|69.122.203.50]] 20:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

==not the most recent==
There's a new sbemail.

Talk:the movies

Uglinessman — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:41:27 GMT

Uglinessman: /**/Bet? Dare? Challenge?

==newb alert==
* Sorry guys, I'm still new at this. I hate to leave my entries for others to clean up; I promise to learn more soon :) [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 07:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
**Don't sweat it. That's why wikis can be edited by anyone. Welcome aboard. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 10:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

==Main problems with talking==
* Hope I'm not committing a faux pas by putting this back (was it removed b/c it wasn't signed?), but I think it's a good question to consider, along the lines of "How Much Detail? What's a Fact?" below. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
**I am also fairly new to the discussion aspect, I might be doing this wrong (I've contributed unregistered to various pages before) Do we really need to include the most common ways people ruin movies by talking? There are no direct references to these two suggestions anywhere in the e-mail, and it's purely an opinion anyway.

== ASCII movie ==

Could the ASCII movie possibly be a reference to this [http://geekswithblogs.net/btinkler/archive/2005/03/21/26915.aspx Star Wars ASCII Movie] [http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ (can also be seen here)]? I don't know how common full length ASCII movies are, but something tells me they aren't that popular. --[[User:Electricnet|Electricnet]] 07:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Could be, although it's kind of a stretch, seeing as the actual "movie" SB watches doesn't have anything to do with Star Wars; maybe if the movie was something sci-fi. I think, more than anything, it's just a reference to SB being hopelessly behind with technology, like when he refered to the Cheat's monitor as having its back chopped off, etc. But then again, what do I know? haha -- [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 07:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's likely not a specific reference to any one ASCII instance. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Chili's fajitas ==

This was probably rightfully removed — while the utensils are identical to those used at Chili's, I'm not surprised that they are used elsewhere. Also, the Mariachi band doesn't fit with Chili's. At any rate, the resemblance of the utensils is strong enough that I think it's worthy of posting on the talk page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
*The pans, wooden trays, and tortilla containers that accompany The King of Town's fajitas are the same style as those served at the popular restaurant chain [[Wikipedia:Chili's|Chili's]].

== Dangeresque 3 = Duke Nukem Forever (sorta) ==

For some reason, the Dangeresque 3 poster reminded me of a poster I once saw at the local gaming store of Duke Nukem Forever several, several, several years ago. I'm trying to do an image search to see if I can find it (with little luck right now). Anyway, when you think about it, the Dangeresque 3 poster has all those dates scratched off then it says "We'll See..." and Duke Nukem Forever had a buch of dates set, but had delays, delays, and delays, then finally, according to 3D Realms's site, it says [http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/ "When it's done."] - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 13:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

*That's what I thought [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== And it keeps runnin' runnin' ==

How many more e-mails will [[DNA evidence]] be mentioned? Maybe the paper's DNA will be tampered with when be becomes an injet printer paper (sbemail 173!). {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 14:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Bwoken ==

I keep getting a 404'd when I try to watch this email. Is something wrong with the site, or did someone pour Mountain Dew on my computer again?

== Dangeresque Poster ==

Should I note (perhaps in "Remarks") that the pair of glasses on the Dangeresque 3 poster seems to be made for three eyes?

==Ice Cold Refreshment==

The "ice cold refreshment" trivia refers to [[Wikipedia: Coca-Cola|Coca-Cola]] games and trivia ads seen before a film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: There are plenty of companies that sponsor trivia screens. And plenty of ice-cold refreshments. I'm drinking a Pepsi as we speak.

==Common Problems==

The most common problems with people talking during a film are:
# Giving away the plot during a suspenseful or comedic scene
# Commenting on every scene

[[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

: I think this is too high a level of "detail." There's not really an authoritative source to compare these statements to. I could, for instance, claim that the most common problem during movies is people making out. Or crappy movies. Doesn't seem like it's noteworthy enough for inclusion on the page. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== How much detail? What's a fact? ==
What is the standard for a "fun fact?" Some stuff seems kind of obvious or a stretch like
* "Please turn off your..." usually refers to cell phones and pagers.
* The refreshment trivia about popcorn pricing refers to the common problem with cinemas overpricing their food.
How do you decide if a piece of trivia is noteworthy or, well, just trivial? [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Bet? Dare? Challenge? ==

After reading off the name and location of the e-mail sender, what is SB talking about when he tells The Cheat "Told you I could do it."? I'm assuming that he was just proving to TC that he could read the details without mangling them, but it might be some more specific inside reference that I'm not aware of. Either way, I think it deserves a mention in the "Explanations" section. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 17:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk:radio

Uglinessman — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:07:20 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Drugs */ improperly used bullets are irritating

==Why the Revert?==
I made the addition/edit to the Easter Eggs of:

*Clicking and holding on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display LCD screen] of the [[Lappy 486]] will cause a concentric ring of discoloration to occur, imitating the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization#Observing_polarization_effects_in_everyday_life polarizing effect] pressure has on an LCD display.

Yet this was reverted back and the revert stated that:
: (I think Firebird would go insane if s/he saw this... ;-))

Who is Firebird and why would said person go insane over the inclusion and edit I made?

And what is wrong with the edit itself? [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 18:17, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

: Because it is a) not appropriate for the radio page (try the [[Lappy 486]] page), and b) it gets added OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, and c) you're supposed to put new Fun Facts for radio on the [[STUFF]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:22, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
:: Okay, last one was a mistake (I thought the STUFF stub was on this e-mail like it was for [[virus]].) Still... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:24, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::: Might buy the first point, but it isn't a "fun fact", but an Easter Egg and an explanation of said easter egg. And was not aware that there was some "pre-approval" process regarding editing pages. I have been a long-time contributor to several various wikis (topic-specific as well as the Wikipedia itself) and this is rather an antithesis of the wiki collaborative norms. [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 18:27, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::: I already said the third point was moot. Anyway, it was the first point that was the important one. And if you'd been here for as much as one week, you know we have a BIG problem with useless edits on recent emails, hence the STUFF page. It's not strictly enforced, but any "Fun Fact" (yes, we've already established that it was an Easter Egg you were talking about) that's even slightly controversial just clutters up the page. And, as was stated with my second point, we've seen that "Egg" listed over and over and over and over for both Lappy 486 emails - it gets deleted every time, but then someone adds it back. Well, we can't put it on the page for EVERY Lappy email - there are likely to be dozens! It's the second point that would cause Firebird (a mod who HATES that "Fact/Egg") to go insane. And that, as they say, is that. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::: I had already clicked to type my reply when you posted your "oops" one. This was my first set of edits to HRwiki so I don't know "we" had a big problem with fun fact/easter egg edits. But cest le vie... not worth the hassle to participate here much more. [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 18:49, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::::Oh, that was my mistake there. Anyway, you don't need to merely take my word for it. Just wait for the next Strong Bad Email and check the page on the day it's released - go through the history if you must. There are almost guaranteed to be five hundred people trying to add facts like Strong Sad's first time smiling (again - and don't ask me the logic there), references that are EXTREME stretches, and "If you click on the Lappy's screen, it makes circles! Just like a real laptop!" I promise you. It WILL happen. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:54, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::::And I'm not trying to be mean or scare you away. I'm just telling it like it is. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:56, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
:::::::''"There are almost guaranteed to be five hundred people trying to add ... 'If you click on the Lappy's screen, it makes circles! Just like a real laptop!' I promise you. It WILL happen."''
:::::::I know this adds absolutely nothing to the discussion at hand, but...
:::::::'''''XDXDXD'''''
:::::::Anyway, yeah. That particular one wound up showing up SO frequently I had to add a comment to [[animal]] to tell people that WE KNOW ALREADY... and I'm not even sure that worked. Oh well, I tried.
:::::::That said, don't fret over it, considering how common this is occuring I wouldn't say it would be a particularly major deal. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:05, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Totebag==
The "fun fact" about the fate of Marzipan's tote bag isn't really that fun - it's a joke from the e-mail and shouldn't need to be explained.

==WA3D==
WA3D is actually an Amateur Radio callsign, currently registered to Timothy Yoho of Lock Haven, Pennsylvania (found via [http://www.qrz.com/callsign QRZ Callsign Database]).

==Over-kill==
All humor is more fun when explained. Like when news people explain their puns. They do a service to the very stupid.

==Highball==

If Homestar is holding a highball glass (albeit a short one), as Strong Bad's earlier comment would suggest, he might have [[Wikipedia:bourbon whiskey|bourbon]] in it - apparently it's a brown drink often served in highball glasses with ice. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:23, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*Perhaps the alcoholic effects of said bourbon are the reason for the bag on his head. Or maybe he just wanted to be "a cool guy" like in [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]... --[[User:Bellatrix|Bellatrix]] 11:18, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Drugs==

Does it make sense to point out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28drug_culture%29 another interpretation of 4 and 20 stone]? This isn't the only drug reference the Brothers Chaps have made, but the Wiki seems to not point these out. (Another one was in the Strong Bad Email menu, when Coach Z says "you must smoke grass.")
:It isn't a drug reference! Like... at all. "stone" is a measure of mass.
::Right, but getting high is also commonly referred to as getting stoned. Ever listen to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesign_Theatre Firesign Theatre]? Not all drug references need to be perfectly direct, or not hidden in a dual (or triple) entendre.
:::That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If they had said pounds, would it have been a reference to British currency? The next argument will be about the use of 4 and 20 (as in 4:20), but that is as much a reference to the Gettysburg address as it is to weed. And everyone should sign their comments, so you can follow the thread of discussion. -[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
::::The context and phrasing behind the mention of "four and twenty stone" undeniably points to the British unit of weight. Furthermore, since this e-mail's writer is from Scotland, this adds further weight (as it were) to the argument that it's a reference to the aforementioned system. (Another, but far more vague connection, is that The Strong Bad has a vaguely British accent.) - Trev-MUN
:::::The "vaguely British accent" was actually a very very common U.S. East Coast accent in the 1930's, especially among the educated white-type people who would have had the privilege to be in broadcasting. Vague indeed. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:15, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
::::::That's an interesting note, except I don't recall hearing this type of accent ''at all'' from American 1930's broadcasts. Even the "very common educated East Coast" accent you mention, from examples I have heard, does not sound like this. At any rate, I'd say that it's apparent that The Strong Bad is British to some degree; his choice of using stones over pounds, the accent (farghwar@#*&!), and other tidbits (getting telegrams from Lord Elsington Hallstingdingdingworth ... okay, that might be a stretch, but it seems supicious) point in that direction. - Trev-MUN
:::::::Yes, I think you're right after all. Plus, The [[The Strong Bad| Sir Strong Bad]] page says English, anyway, so I guess that's an accepted point around here! --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

:Coach Z actually said "you must smoke crack" (or, possibly, "crash"). I find the drug references dubious though. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:12, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
::Nevertheless, in this case, "stone" means the unit of weight, and the line itself is a reference to the saying "the camera adds 10 pounds" -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

Did anyone else hear the sound of a bong hit near the end of the college radio section? I was sure that this would have been pointed out by now. Right before "an hour of chanting." {{unsigned|69.3.122.37|08:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)}}
:Assuming that sound is actually there (your signature would be a help to your credibility here) I doubt it would actually be intended to be a bong hit, seeing as it takes place in a college radio station where that wouldn't happen, as it might in a dorm room, etc. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
::Right before the words "an hour of chanting", I hear what sounds like the host flicking through a pile of paper, and then tapping/adjusting the microphone. Is that the sound effect you're referring to? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, maybe it was intentional, intending to wake up all you people who are always looking for double entendres to exaggerate and try to start insane rumors. That's part of the reason I don't do (AW CRAP) forums anymore. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

==Factual Deluge!==
Something really has to be done about the influx of fun facts to the newest emails... the very fact that we've had to divide it up into categories of references shows that the situation is getting out of hand. Perhaps something along the lines of closing fun-fact entries until 2 days after the premier of the email could be arranged. Thoughts? -[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*Personally I see nothing wrong with an article having plenty of fun facts or reference notes attached. This is, after all, a Wikipedia. However, if most of them are stretches, that's a different case (such as the two fun facts suggesting that Crackotage and Senor Cardgage are both involved in this e-mail somehow). - Trev-MUN
* Have you seen the [[STUFF]] page? It's supposed to help filter bogosity. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
** Wish it helped, but daily, we get someone (and always someone different!) trying to add the Bruce Almighty "fact", even though it's ON the STUFF page ''AND LOSING!'' Even putting a comment on the page (visible only to those that are trying to edit the page) didn't help - they just put it in a different category. I'm tempted to repeat the comment in that other category, just because it has ticked me off that much. In closing, the STUFF page doesn't stop newbies from posting useless or false facts if they don't know the STUFF page exists. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:22, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*** Yeah, Jay, I definitely know of your pain with the Bruce Almighty simpletons. Still I think the STUFF page probably DOES help a lot more than it hurts, and it has to help to keep mentioning it. Why not also put it in the Fun Facts section on the Standards page? We shouldn't keep it hidden from the newcomers who DO look there before editing (like I did). --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
****That is a very good idea. Surprised it hadn't been thought of already. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:28, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

==The show's not just dangerous...==

Is it just me, or is the background music on the morning radio show (the part in Homestar's room) an obvious variant of the Dangeresque theme?

*Jeepers yur right!! - mashed potato jones
**I don't think so. It is vaguely similar, but it's different enough that I'd chalk it up to "coincidence". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:46, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
not totally, however it probably is one of the references, of which too many people guessed of too many.

==Squawk box==

*I suggest this for speedy deletion - 'squawk box' is a phrase which is even defined on [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=squawk+box dictionary.com]. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:48, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*I don't agree on the reference either. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 12:35, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Jar ==

The little dog jar in Marzipan's kitchen is from the sketchbook. He was an idea for Pom Pom's dog.

*His name is Trivia Time. It's been said over and over again.

== New Persona ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad seem to enjoy his radio voice in the easter egg more than the first time? He seems to be getting more comfortable using it (note the lingering smile)
*My guess is that he just hasn't snapped out of it at that point. Remember, it's not something he does voluntarily, as indicated by his reaction the first time. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 06:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

== College Radio... ==

Why is college radio getting such a bad rap? I personally have a college station,[http://www.wpgu.com WPGU,] in my town which is an amazing staion on the frequency of 107.1(breaking the frequency 87-91 stereotype) has very few(if any) bad hosts, and does NOT play an hour of chanting. EVER. Please discuss the opinions of college radio's quality here. Thank you.

:WPGU is run by the University of Illinois. That means that it has a budget, and professional employees. Similarly, I listen to KUNI, run by the University of Northern Iowa, which is an excellent station. Most states have at least one good college radio station, usually affiliated with that state's biggest public university. What you don't realize is that these stations are the exception to the rule. The vast majority of college radio is run on a shoestring budget using decades-old equipment by untrained (and unpaid) college students. In other words, "Dead air, um, dead air." [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 09:29, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

:P.S. Please sign your posts.
:P.P.S. Discussions like this really belong in the forum.

I have to agree, I used to do a show at the local university station 106.9 CHMA, and it was kinda "dead air, um, dead air."
As a side note, as I am typing this, I realise that I'm wearing a CHMA T-Shirt. Whoa! --SgtKeeling

== WSBD in Ohio?? ==

I only found one page referencing a WSBD talk radio station in Cleveland Ohio. However, there is a WSPD in Toledo, Ohio. I also found one reference to a WSBD in Toledo. No WSBD appears in any of the Ohio radio listings I've come across, either.

*I live in Georgia, and a talk radio station goes by WSBD. --Ben

==Rejected Fun Facts==
===WSBD in Ohio===
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
===Location===
'''ACCEPTED'''
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

===German Radio? ===
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

== Did you just say "zabbitablough"? ==

I changed blabittablough to zabbitablough to reflect the [[Quote of the Week]]. Now, some people say that it is performed differently or something, but if you listen closely, he does say it in the same way. I'm pretty sure, however, that Strong Mad does, indeed, say blabittablough (adding to the joke), so I left that as is. Please comment before reverting (as you always do).

:I heard "blabbitablaough". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

== Radio show host ==

Is Strong Bad a radio show host? Because of how Strong Sad is actually recording the "hour of chanting". I think this might mean that Strong Bad is a radio show host of many kinds.

Um, I think this was just in Strong Bads imagination, so it doesn't mean that Strong Bad is an actual radio show host. But it does make a little sence- but not mny things do in the Homestar Runner universe. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:39, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Clickable area for Test Sentence is a Goof ==

{| style="background:orange" border="1"
|After the test sentence disappears, you can still click where it was to show the children's book.
|}

Why is this statement being kept in the Easter Eggs section and not mentioned as a Goof? The fact that the easter-egg clickable area remains there when the words disappear seems "goof-ish", as in, TBC forgot to remove the link after the sentence disappears. But when I tried to mention this as a goof, you guys reverted it. What's the basis for keeping it in the Easter Eggs section? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 00:11, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Yo yo yo? ==

MIKE: Did they give yo things?

I don't have the DVD; is this a goof or is it right? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== LIVE RADIO ==

Should there be a mention of the fact that it would have been highly unlikey for Old-Timey Strong Bad to hear his voice broadcast given that the vast majority of radio in 1936 was live? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== SBD? ==

Doubt this is an intentional joke, but WSBD ''could'' be named for the classic [[Wikipedia:Flatulence|passing of gas]] known as the SBD for "silent but deadly". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. It's clearly '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''d'''.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, that makes sense. (Or course, if it were '''K'''SBD, I would expect it to refer to San Bernardino, CA.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== AM Morning Crude Crew ==

I think the AM Morning Crude Crew is a reference to The Regular Guys on the Atlanta radio station [http://www.96rock.com 96 Rock], anyone else agree, or should I STUFF it--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
:Are they the ''only'' crude show on Atlanta radio? Do TBC listen to them? There's a lot of uncertainty here. What about when they grew up in Indiana, or when they went to college, or when Matt lived in New York? They may have listened to other crude shows then. Like the Bob and Tom show, etc.? This is more likely a reference to nothing in particular. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Marzipan blinking ==

Taken from the [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] article:

{| style="background:orange" border="1"
|...Marzipan ... blinking causes her outline to be intruded.
|}

The same happens in this email. Am I right? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk:senior prom

Uglinessman — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:37:12 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Koo koo ka choo... but not */

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])<noinclude>[[Category:Internal link templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

:::::::Marzipan <> almond paste. Almond paste is just almonds ground with sugar and corn syrup, but isn't cooked. Marzipan is a type of candy that usually contains almond paste plus more sugar, and it's cooked until it reaches the "firm ball" stage (244 F). The cooking gives it a smoother texture, almost like fondant. But I'd still guess that the "almond paste" bit was meant as a reference to Marzipan. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)
:::YES! I'll get that announcer that intteruppted it if it's the last thing I doooooooooooo!!!!

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:Aw, come ON! You know that [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|''that'']] was a glitch and you...know...it. Now I'm'a gonna a-go gets a-a peanut-a-butter-a-sandwhitch. -Alex H. {{unsigned|68.248.144.179|12:12, 24 May 2006}}

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, but you forgot Soverjouiner! It's on Mars too!

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Can we stop the edit war and discuss captions here? Thanks so much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please, let's do so. Now, the person who has been removing the quote has argued that it shouldn't be there because Marzipan, who says the quote, is not in the picture. I don't find this argument convincing. I don't think a quote has to line up ''exactly'' with the image as long as its connection with the image is clear. And here, I think the connection is indeed clear: what happens in the image ''is'' what happens every year. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::Well, Mr. Läufer, it DOESN'T happen every year, because some schools (my alma mater included) don't have prom kings and queens. The connection with the image wasn't clear, IMO, at all. Therefore, it didn't fit. (And I didn't find your grammar police edits to be convincing enough, yet you made them anyway, although a lot of them were unnecessary.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::All right, ISlayedTheKerrek, this is not the place for you to be discussing your grievances with my editing. Concerning the issue at hand: I still think the connection between image and caption is in fact clear enough, and, as two people have reverted to this caption, I suggest that it should stay this way. Unless others object, I would say that consensus favors the "Every freakin' year" caption. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Peep: worth a fun fact? ==

I noticed the inclusion of "summat" as a real-world reference, which made me wonder if including a similar item for the rap term [http://www.rapdict.org/Peep peep] was worth one as well, esp. since TBC use a lot of hip-hop lingo. Is it too widely known? | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Spelling of imaginary girlfriend ==

"* In this email, Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad's Ladies|imaginary girlfriend's]] name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-05-04|Quote of the Week]], it was spelled "Delelilia"."

Uhh, isn't the QotW an outtake? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 06:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*I STUFF'd it, since I got no response here. <homestarrunner> Boo. </homestarrunner> :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Promstar Talker ==

The part about Pom-Pom and Strong Bad getting voted Prom King and Queen reminds me of the Homestar Talker -- "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad are totally going out"
:Although they never specifically say what they're going out to do. Maybe they're just going to the 7-11 for a quart of milk...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== What! No Undawares! ==
Is it just me or does the comment about strong bad saying that he doesn't wear underwear useless? I mean, if I were to make everyone's pants (including my own) disappear, I would definately wear something underneath. It's just common sense... {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 22:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad obviously didn't think this thing through very well. He was going to mass-pants everyone, but presumably anyone wanting to do such a thing (and who has half a brain) would either make it so their own pants weren't affected, or he wouldn't wear pants in the first place. But Strong Bad isn't known to think very far ahead when it comes to practical jokes and pranks, and obviously his mass-pantsing backfired in a way he didn't expect. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Oh yeah! ==
That low-pitched "Oh yeah!" that the Poopsmith shouts sort of reminds me of that stupid Yello song of the same name. It's associated with a high school movie (Ferris Bueller's Day Off) so it would sort of fit with the e-mail's prom theme. Do you think it might count as a real world reference?[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 23:56, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:Nope. Yello's "Oh Yeah!" is very different in pitch, and the style of the "Oh yeah!" in this toon is very common to the kind of music they used here. The band seems to be much more a reference to Back to the Future than Ferris Bueller, and there is already a ref up to BTTF. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Koo koo ka choo... but not ==

''I Am the Walrus'' by the Beatles clearly says "Goo goo ga joob." "Koo koo ka choo" is from ''Mrs. Robinson'' by Simon and Garfunkel, released a month later (coincidence? Not likely). So that's why it says "or summat." By the way, the only other place I've ever heard the word "summat" is when Hagrid from Harry Potter says it. Is it a British slang word? If so, that's probably a reference to The Beatles. Did it possibly originate in Liverpool? If so, that's an unmistakable allusion. [[User:Uh...Cwapface|Uh...Cwapface]] 03:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's a British slang word. I see it pretty often. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:First of all, the phrases "goo goo ga joob" and "koo koo ka choo" are both total nonsense. Since neither of them contain any actual words, the debate of which one of the two was "actually" said in the Beatles song is almost a moot point, unless someone can provide a scan of the lyrics sheet of a Beatles' album liner notes, or some other reliable source (99% of all lyrics websites on the 'net are user generated and ''not'' reliable soures). Also keep in mind that the song is mixed oddly, and there's an intentional distortion to it that sort of mimmicks poor sound quality. As such, sublte differences between k's and g's can easily be lost.
:Second, even if there's some definitive way to "prove" which nonsense phrase was said in the Beatles song, I don't think it qualifies as a [[Wikipedia:Mondegreen|mondegreen]]. A real mondegreen is when words are mis-heard as other words, such as cross I bear/cross-eyed bear from "You Oughta Know". In other words, the meaning is changed, usually resulting in humorous misunderstandings. The difference between "goo" and "koo" in this context is irrelevant, since they both mean the same thing (nothing). It's like if two different people transcribed Ella Fitzgerald scatting from an old 78, and then they debated over wether then 14th syllable was "tweeeee" or "dreeeee".
:I'll leave it to someone else to edit, since I'm not always good at rephrasing stuff, but I hope that someone can resolve this one way or the other. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 19:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

== Very UNpopular cartoon show ==
The quick voiceover sounds like "The King of Town's Very Unpopular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week" rather than "The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week".
Of course because it is so fast one could easily get it wrong. --[[:Xifihas|Xifihas:]]
:Well, we say it's "own", since that matches the text that appears. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yes but the KOT is a very UNpopular character. --[[:Xifihas|Xifihas:]]
:::I think this is intentionally ambiguous so that people can draw their own conclusions. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Where Plan? ==
Strong Bad never told us where he'll poof the pants to? You can guess!

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
===Coppafeel?===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's admonition to "watch those hands, David Coppafeel" is a reference to "copping a feel", which means to "surreptitiously fondle someone in a sexual manner".}}
{{stuffverdict|02:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)|20:25, 27 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|8|senior prom}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Strong Bad and Delilah ===
{{stufffact|In this email, Strong Bad's imaginary girlfriend's name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following Quote of the Week, it was spelled "Delelilia".}}
{{stuffverdict|02:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)|23:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhemingly accepted|18|3|senior prom}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== It might be a common phrase, see? ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's remark, "It's a mass pantsing, see?" is an example of stereotypical "mobster speech", which was popularized by [[Wikipedia:Edward G. Robinson|Edward G. Robinson]] in the movie [[Wikipedia:Little Caesar|Little Caesar]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|23:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|15|1|senior prom}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Are you guys having a killer time? ===
{{stufffact|"Strong Sad and Deborah" may be a reference to Napoleon Dynamite, in which Deborah is a main character who goes to a dance.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)|02:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|senior prom}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Save the last dance for me... again ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)|02:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|24|7|senior prom}}

Musical Sightings

Uglinessman — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:07:00 GMT

Uglinessman: /* ApologetiX */

{{sightingslanguagewarning}}

== ApologetiX ==
*In the booklet for the Christian group ApologetiX's 2003 CD "Adam Up," their guitarist is wearing a Strong Bad shirt. Also, at a show in Cincinnati, Ohio, the guitarist, Karl, wore his Strong Bad shirt (the mask shirt). In the booklet, he is wearing the full body shirt. He's got both!
*At their stop in Big Rapids, Michigan October 2, 2004, the keyboardist, Bill Hubauer, somehow got the Homestar quotes from the main webpage into his piano playing loud "Toons!," "Games!," "Characters!," and "Downloads!" while the lead singer, J. Jackson, was trying to say stuff. So far, no reported repeats of this activity.
*On August 22nd ApologetiX stopped at Elizabethtown, PA. In the middle of the concert, between songs, Karl started singing "[[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]". He also commented on someone's The Cheat hoodie.
*Early 2006 ApologetiX released a Live DVD with snippets between some songs. Karl is seen several times with a Trogdor t-shirt.

== Beastie Boys 2004 Pageant Tour ==
*On December 16th 2004 at the Zenith in Munich, Germany, the Beastie Boys used two JumboTron screens on the left and right side of the stage to present to the crowd the first one and a half minutes of [[Everybody to the Limit]]. Even though most of the listeners might have never heard of Homestar Runner or Strong Bad the crowd cheered and clapped their hands rhythmically with the music.
*''Everybody to the Limit'' and other Homestar Runner footage might have been part of other Beastie Boys shows during the 2004 Pageant Tour, but no other sightings have been reported.

== Bigg Nife ==
*The band [http://www.angelfire.com/music5/bigg_nife/ Bigg Nife] took their name from [[band names]].

== Butch Walker ==
*On the links page on [http://www.butchwalker.com Butchwalker.com], there is a link to [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|H*R]] which reads "Homestar Runner ..our buddies.. yes.. i said it.. OUR buddies.."

== Calibretto 13 ==
Calibretto 13 has a [http://www.myspace.com Myspace profile]. [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=20334531&blogID=33999662 Evidently] they like Homestar Runner. They have a link to the website, with the text "You gotta love that homestar, he is a terrific athlete."

== Five Iron Frenzy ==
*Reese Roper, lead singer of the Christian ska band Five Iron Frenzy, is pictured in a CD release's booklet wearing a The Cheat shirt [http://img156.exs.cx/img156/1907/reesecheatbig0qs.jpg as shown here]. In the liner notes, drummer Andy Verdecchio thanks Strong Bad.
*During their performance at the [http://www.cornerstonefestival.com/ 2003 Cornerstone Music Festival], Reese asked the crowd if they were "ready to achieve burnination".

== Goldspot ==
Indie band [http://www.goldspot.net/goldspotnew/index.php Goldspot] used the beat from the [[Old Intro 2]] on their song "Cusp" from their album "Tally of the Yes Men". This song is available for download on [http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=73660800&selectedItemId=73660458 iTunes].

== Jack's Mannequin ==
During a performance of their song The Mixed Tape for Yahoo Music, one of the band members can be seen wearing a Limozeen t-shirt. [http://music.yahoo.com/ar-15591915-videos--Jacks-Mannequin See it here.]

== Jump, Little Children ==
On June 6th, 2003, during his solo tour, Jay Clifford was asked to play a song and replied "It's been probably five years since I've played this song so forgive me. It's gonna sound like crap. Crap! It's gonna sound like crap! Anybody watch Homestar Runner? It's the cool- I mean, the best thing ever, that's ever happened to this planet! That's Homestar Runner. So Holy Crap!"
[http://www.archive.org/download/jclifford2003-06-06a.shnf/jclifford2003-06-06at01.shn Download this clip!] - ''You will need to be able to convert it or play a shnf file.''

== Jump5 ==
During one bonus "track" on their remixed album (Remixed), Chris sings something extremely similar to The System is Down (one of the various sound effects).

== Karl Olson/Ultraklystron ==
[http://www.ampcast.com/music/4979/artist.php Karl Olson], also known as [http://www.karlrolson.com/ Ultraklystron], recorded two songs related to H*R: a cover of [[The Skate Party]] song [http://www.ampcast.com/LST-67826-mus-128-5890398-0-0-0-DLDLZTREGXSJDLGXDL/Ultraklystron__Strong_Sad_Rocks_Out_Original_by_the_Skate_Party.m3u Strong Sad Rocks Out] and an original song, [http://www.ampcast.com/LST-67834-mus-128-5890398-0-0-0-DLDLZTREGXSJDLFQO/Ultraklystron__Hes_Homsar.m3u He's Homsar], which are no longer available at these sites.

== KJ-52 ==
On his new album, ''Behind the Musik (A Boy Named Jonah)'', Christian rapper KJ-52 lists Homestar Runner in his song "Things I Like."

The way in which the verse "Come on now, everybody!" is performed in "Whoop Whoop" (from ''It's Pronounced Five-Two'') is suspiciously similar to the [[Intro]] song.

Upon being asked what his favorite [[Strong Bad Email]] was, KJ-52 replied, "Oh, man! Come on, now, that's not even a question right there. Um, my favorite Strong Bad Email, I'm-a probably say, I like [[virus|the one where they got the virus]], that one was hilarious. I like the one where Bubs went out and blew, um, shot a hole through the computer, but I have tons of them. Couldn't even name them all on top of my head. Um, so, that's to say, I have quite a bit. I would say that one's definitely one of the first ones that popped into my head." [http://kj52.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=36323&comments=on Click here] to hear the podcast.

Earlier, a fan asked if he would write a song about Homestar Runner. KJ-52 said, "Oh, yeah! I just went to Homestar Runner this morning. I was watching, um, I read [[cheatday|the cheatday]], that was a Strong Bad Email, so you might wanna go check it out. Do I think I'll write a song about Homestar Runner? Uh, you know what, don't put it past me, I'm not saying I would. But don't put it past me, I would say that this is from the guy who wrote a song about [[Wikipedia:Mullet (haircut)|mullets]], [[Wikipedia:Napoleon Dynamite|Napoleon Dynamite]] and [[Mountain Dew]]. And, I love Homestar. I think it's my favorite web site ever." [http://kj52.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=20520&comments=on Click here] to hear the podcast.

On [http://media.libsyn.com/media/kj52/ask_kj_podcast_pt_1.mov his video podcast], he tells Gaijin Baka that writing a song based on a Strong Bad Email is a good idea.

On part 1 of his ''Remixed'' podcast, he mentioned downloading [[Podstar Runner]]. [http://media.libsyn.com/media/kj52/ask_kj_podcast_pt._1.mp3]

== Legitimate Business ==
*New Jersey ska/punk band [http://www.legitimatebusinessrock.com/ Legitimate Business] is named after one of Homsar's lines on [[Homsar Main Page|his Main Page]]. 

== Lemon Demon ==
*The band [http://www.lemondemon.com/ Lemon Demon] referenced [[Trogdor]] in the song Fire Motif from "Clown Circus" with the lyrics "The time has come for burnination."
*In the song "Geeks In Love" on the album "Damn skippy" One lyric says "ponkity-ponkity", and in the commentary he says that's a reference to the Strong Bad email [[funny]]
*In the [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/295165 Music Video] for "Geeks In Love", during the Logo declaring the songs name, you can see the word "TROGDOR" in the background.

== Mindless Self Indulgence ==
*The band [http://www.mindlessselfindulgence.com/ Mindless Self Indulgence] played [[The System is Down]] and [[Everybody to the Limit]] while setting up equipment before a show at the Metro in Chicago, Illinois. After the show, a band member was heard to comment on a fan's Strong Bad T-shirt and mentioned reading about H*R in Spin Magazine.
*During their Desparta Los Ninos tour a compilation CD was played in between opening acts and before the openers played. The CD had The System Is Down, Everybody to the Limit and Ballad of the Sneak. The lead singer Jimmy Urine is quite fond of Homestar Runner cartoons, especially Strong Bad.

== Patent Pending ==
Patent Pending has a song on their album "Don't Quit Your Day Job" called Decemberween.

== The Planet Smashers ==
The hidden 13th track on [http://www.planetsmashers.net The Planet Smasher's] "Mighty" album proclaims "Trogdor!"

== Relient K ==
The band Relient K had a Homestar Runner-like [http://millionmanmerch.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rk_homestar_blue.jpg shirt logo] (currently unavailable) and have linked to Homestar Runner from their [http://www.relientK.com web site], although since the reformatting of their website the link has been taken off.

== Salsa Commodity ==
[http://salsa.ioioio.net Salsa Commodity] released the song A Tribute to Homestar Runner "Live" on their debut album, Official Homemade Ice Cream. Before all this, guitarist and singer Michael Sanders made a song about Teen Girl Squad, which can be found in the [http://salsa.ioioio.net/music2.html old music] section of the site. There is also a sort of Trogdor cover there, using the singing from the email.

== [[The Skate Party]] ==
Wrote the music for [[The Cheat Theme Song]], and sent it to [[The Brothers Chaps]] as a fan contribution, who liked it enough to make a video for it and put it on the site. The Skate Party also have another song called "Strong Sad Rocks Out".

== Sol Martin ==
At singer Sol Martin's web site, there used to be a link to Homestar Runner on the [http://www.sol-martin.com/new/index.php main page]. His musical idol, Ronnie Martin, founder of [[Wikipedia:Joy Electric|Joy Electric]], [http://www.joyelectric.com/jeboard/viewtopic.php?t=4676 probably dislikes Homestar Runner].

== Strike Four ==
The band Strike Four, which has some of the members from the now defunct band, Salsa Commodity, referenced the Strong Bad email [[mile]] in their song "''Here I Go''."

== Strong Bad Live! ==
On June 7th, 2003, at a concert featuring Radiohead and the Beastie Boys, Strong Bad Emails were shown on the JumboTron between acts. They also showed [[Everybody to the Limit]] and it had a special new introduction wherein Strong Bad complained that he wasn't allowed on stage even though he had been the #1 hit for two summers in a row.

== Suburban Legends ==
Orange County ska band Suburban Legends thank "homestarrunner.com" in the inside cover of their 2003 album ''Rump Shaker''.

== Thursday ==
The band [http://www.islandrecords.com/thursday/index.las Thursday] thanks Homestarrunner.com in the booklet to their latest album, ''War all the Time''.

== Time For Living ==
The San Francisco hardcore punk band [http://hardcoremusic.com/tfl/main.html Time For Living] has a Homestar themed album with the title track "The Cheat is not Dead". They have songs called "Discount Brick", "Just A Friendly Reminder", "Population: Tire", and "The King Of Town." Beyond the titles, the songs don't have any relationship to Homestar Runner.

== Tripleside ==
Tripleside ([http://www.tripleside.net www.tripleside.net]) wrote an homage to Homsar called "Legitimate Business", which contains many classic Homsar quotes. You can download the song [http://purevolume.com/tripleside here] or read the lyrics [http://www.firewalkingmusic.com/3S/lyrics/legitbiz.html here].

== Very Low Sodium Band ==
*[http://www.verylowsodium.com The Very Low Sodium Band] has a song that praises Homestar Runner. Hear the song [http://www.verylowsodium.com/band/ here].
*VLSB guitarist and singer Michael Sanders later formed the band [http://www.strikefouronline.com// Strike Four] (formerly Salsa Commodity) which performed the song live; a recording is on their album [http://www.cdbaby.com/salsacommodity Official Homemade Ice Cream].

== Waking State ==
In the liner notes of their 2005 release, ''Hang On'', the DC Band [http://www.wakingstate.net Waking State] gives special thanks to www.homestarrunner.com.

== [[Y-O-U]] ==
*Worked with [[The Brothers Chaps]] on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
*The Brothers Chaps made the music video for Y-O-U's song "[http://www.pleaserock.com/lalindsaymusicvideo.html L.A. Lindsay]."

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alternate universe

Uglinessman — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:58:55 GMT

Uglinessman: It's funny, but still vandalism.

{{sbenav|150|candy product|senior prom}}
[[Image:Doppelgangers.png|thumb|"Save the last email for Strong Bad..."]]
In this, his sesquicentenn-email, Strong Bad makes an alternate universe portal and visits alternate realities along with many of his doppelgängers, while Homestar tries to make a real fruit smoothie.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Strong Badman]], {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Stinkoman}}, [[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]], {{Film|Pom Pom}} (silhouette), {{Film|Strong Mad}} (silhouette), {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}} (silhouette), {{Film|Marzipan}} (silhouette), [[Bees|The Grape Fairie's Bee]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[Puppet Character Variations#Puppet Strong Bad|Puppet Strong Bad]], [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals#Da Huuuuuudge|Da Huuuuuudge]], [[Teenage Variation#Teenage Strong Bad|Teenage Strong Bad]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, [[Sterrance]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badman's Apartment]], [[Stages#Old-Timey Stage|Old-Timey Stage]], [[Vector Field]], [[flashback|Flashback]] [[Race Track]], [[Strong Badia]] (puppet), [[Da Huuuuuudge's Enclosure]], [[Pie Factory]], Interdimensional Void, Recording Studio, [[The Pond]] (Easter Egg), Black Lodge (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 4, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 5:53

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing over guitar music}'' I've been walking on clouds and flipping off rainbows, on the wiiiiings of an emaiiil...

''{Cut to a wide view of the desk. Strong Sad is standing to the right of Strong Bad with a classical guitar. Strong Bad turns to face him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, man.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No prob, Bob.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: alternate univer$e</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
Got some ?'s for you: 
1. What would you do with a hundred million dollars? 
2. What would you do if you suddenly found yourself in 
an alternate universe somehow? 
Jody (not a girl), TX
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "question marks" for "?'s", and "Number one" and "Number two" for "1." and "2.", respectively.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{says everything inside parentheses normally}'' Ya know, you could probably ditch that (not a girl) thing, if you just replaced it with something tough and cool and kool and tuff. Like (Bulldozer). Jody (Bulldozer). Nobody's gonna think that guy's a girl. ''{clears screen}'' Well Ms. Dozer, you pretty much answered question mark #1 ''{read "number one"}'' with question mark #2 ''{read "number two"}''. Cuz a hundred million dollars is exactly how much The Cheat spent on our alternate universe portal.

''{Cut to a wide view of the desk. The Cheat is standing to the right of the Lappy with a blender containing a Nintendo Game Boy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Isn't that right, The Cheat?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? This thing only cost us fourteen bucks?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{agreeing The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well... that's like a hundred million dollars in... dog years, right?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leans towards The Cheat suddenly}'' All right! Mash go on that blender!

''{Camera zooms out a little as The Cheat presses a button on the blender. The blender shoots out white bolts as the lighting in the room flashes. Soon after, the blender stops with the Game Boy intact, and there is a large swirl to the right of the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho! Swirly Photoshopped magic! I bet this thing could release some serious Cacodemons. So... ''{The Cheat turns to face Strong Bad}'' What? I— I just jump in?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! ''{jumps off the stool and towards the swirl}'' Jump!

''{As soon as Strong Bad touches the swirl, everything except him and the swirl turns black and white. Strong Bad distorts horizontally and vertically, then "springs" into the swirl. Cut to a panel of a comic strip with a number of buildings drawn in it. A caption at the top of the panel reads "IN A BULDING..."}''

'''NARRATOR:''' In a bulding...

''{Camera shifts to the next panel, which shows an empty room. Strong Bad appears, with "VOIP!" appearing next to him briefly. While in the comic, everything Strong Bad says is also shown in a speech bubble. The music from [[action figure]] plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Where am I?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in an action pose on a yellow background. Everything he says also appears in a speech bubble, and is not lip-synced.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{in large red text}'' STINY! ''{normal text}'' We have a visitor from an alternate universe!

''{Next panel. Strong Bad appears in the same room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking to the right}'' It's Strong Badman! And his well drawn abs! ''{looks to the left}'' But... why are we in a crappy apartment instead of a secret underground lair... ''{looks back to the right}'' ...filled with secret underground gadgets?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is shown from the chest up in front of a blue background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Because mere mortal... this apartment...

''{Next panel. Strong Badman appears in front of a red background with his arms in the air. A thunderclap can be heard in the background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{speech bubble is large, yellow and pointy}'' ...is rent controlled! ''{next speech bubbles are regular}'' And... water's included.

''{Next panel. A kitchen and bathroom sink are shown with the faucets running. The bathroom tap has the word "FROSH!" next to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Is that why all your faucets are running?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is standing in a room.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{each syllable appears individually in red text and is not in a speech bubble}'' Mu-hu-ha-ha-hah! ''{regular speech bubble and text}'' Those dimwits down at the public works won't know what hit them!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walking in from left}'' So, that's your evil plan? To waste water?

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' And not pay for it!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I gotta tell ya, Strong Badman... this part of your comic is pretty boring. I'm gonna see what's going on further down the page. ''{jumps out of the current panel}'' Jump!

''{He falls down three panels. There is a woman with a big knife sitting on a giant robotic snake.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Now we're talkin'!

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in the left of the panel, Strong Bad in the center, and there is a TV with the previous panel on it (minus Strong Bad) to the right.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' You're not kidding!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wha?

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Now we have expanded basic cable...

''{Next panel. Close-up of a cable running through a hole in the wall.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{offscreen}'' Stolen from my neighbor!

''{Next panel. Strong Bad is in front of a yellow background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who's writing this issue? The geniuses behind She-Hulk? ''{looks up}'' The Cheat?

''{Cut back to the Computer Room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice is slightly distorted, and a speech bubble appears from the swirl}'' A little frappe action, if you please.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Single "squeak"}''

''{The Cheat turns around and turns on the blender. Cut back to the previous comic panel. Strong Bad disappears with the same "VOIP!" with which he appeared.}''

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in the same pose as when he first appeared, but flipped around and with a green background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{in large red text}'' STINY! ''{normal text}'' Keep flushing those toilets!

''{Cut to the Old-Timey stage. Old-Timey Strong Bad is standing on the stage with curtains behind him. To the left of him is a sign that reads "STRONG BAD and his GOODE-TIME PARLOR TRICKS". An audience can be seen silhouetted at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Yes, and for my next parlor trick, I shan't make anything ''{faces left}'' appear!

''{Strong Bad appears to the left of Old-Timey Strong Bad. He is still in color.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. H-hi.

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' ''{crowd starts booing}'' You brightly colored baboon! You ruined my vaudeville!

''{The Homestar Runner's dance music from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]] plays as tomatoes are thrown at the two Strong Bads.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah! Shades of grey tomatoes!

''{Strong Bad disappears as Old-Timey Strong Bad looks to the left.}''

''{Cut to Vector Strong Bad floating above a vector field. Strong Bad appears to the right. The synthetic drum beat from [[Main Page 21]] plays in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What is up, my enormous vector brother?

''{As Vector Strong Bad speaks, his words come out of his mouth in red vector-style text. They disappear after a short while.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' HELLOTE.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, uh... ''{cut to close-up of Strong Bad}'' what do you do for fun around here? ''{cut back to previous view}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' I SPLO STUFF UP.

''{Strong Bad jumps backwards slightly to avoid the "UP", which promptly explodes with vector graphics.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, that's pretty cool.

''{Stinkoman walks in from the left.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hey, guys! How's challenges?

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' WHAT IT IS MY DOGE?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, you two know each other?

''{Cut to close-up of Stinkoman.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{smiles}'' Oh, totally sure! ''{leans forward and waves one of his arms}'' He's my training simulator!

''{Cut back to previous view.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Check it out!

''{Vector Strong Bad starts moving left and right, shooting squares from his mouth. Stinkoman jumps around and dodges the squares. Strong Bad also jumps over and around the squares, but appears to have more difficulty doing so. Game music from [[video games]] plays. After a few seconds, they all stop.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Nice work, big nose!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Big nose?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Your nose!

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' LEVEL 2

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh-oh.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Uh-oh.

''{Stinkoman silently laughs as Vector Strong Bad shoots a series of squares directly at Strong Bad. As they explode, Strong Bad disappears. Vector Strong Bad then shoots some squares at Stinkoman, which he dodges.}''

''{Cut to a field in the style of [[flashback]]. Tiny Handed Strong Bad is standing close to the camera. Strong Bad appears to the right. All text appears in a white rectangle near the bottom of the screen.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' And so, ''{Strong Bad starts looking around}'' both Strong Bads entered the 'Dig To China With Your Ears Contest.'

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is just about... the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of.

''{Cut to a silhouetted view of the field. Pom Pom, Strong Mad, Coach Z, Bubs and Marzipan are standing to the right of a banner which reads "the contest began!!". Tiny Handed Strong Bad is underneath the banner.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The contest began!

''{Cut to a close-up of Tiny Handed Strong Bad rubbing his head on the ground near a line marked "start".}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' And tiny-handed Strong Bad rubbed his head on the ground... ''{cut to a wide view; Strong Bad is sitting on a hammock with his Dangeresque sunglasses on.}'' while our Modern Day Hero maxed and relaxed.

''{Cut to Tiny Handed Strong Bad standing near the camera again, as in the first shot. A hole is visible near the background, and a giant glass of root beer appears in the center.}''

'''TINY HANDED STRONG BAD:''' I struck it rich!

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Said T.H.S.B.

''{Cut to a zoomed out view of the previous scene, but with the giant glass of root beer in the center. A bee is seen holding Strong Bad's hammock up.}''

'''TINY HANDED STRONG BAD:''' A giant mug of frosty root beer!

''{Old-Timey Strong Bad appears to the left in a bathing suit. Tiny Handed Strong Bad looks at him.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Zounds! A sarsparilla swimming hole! Last one in's a freemason! ''{he half-runs toward the root beer and jumps in}'' Jump! ''{this last word does not appear in a subtitle}''

''{Strong Bad disappears. Keyboard Strong Bad appears at the bottom left of the screen and dances while playing a tune.}''

''{Cut to a screen in the style of Puppet Stuff. Puppet Strong Bad is standing in front of the Strong Badia fence. The Tire and Stop Sign are visible. Strong Bad appears to the right. Music starts playing and both Strong Bads dance in sync with each other. After a moment, Strong Bad disappears again.}''

''{Cut to Da Huuuuuudge's Enclosure. Strong Bad appears lying down on top of it. He slowly slides down, then disappears.}''

''{Cut to the abandoned factory from [[highschool]]. Teenage Strong Bad is standing to the right. Strong Bad appears to the left.}''

'''TEENAGE STRONG BAD:''' Stripèd pants.

''{Strong Bad disappears. Cut to the interdimensional void, which changes colors constantly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice slightly distorted}'' The Cheat! Cool out on the liquefy button, man!

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar standing next to the blender in the Computer Room. The blender still contains the Game Boy, but now also contains a green substance. One and a half avocados are sitting on the desk, along with a jar that reads "Total Load". Homestar is pressing buttons on the blender.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm trying to make me a real fruit smoothie here!

''{Cut to a wide shot. Tiny Handed Strong Bad is standing to the left, with Senor Cardgage, Old-Timey Strong Bad and Da Huuuuuudge to the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Any of you guys got any bee pollen?

''{As Homestar presses another button, Strong Bad appears next to the portal and Strong Badman appears on the left side of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar! Quit messing with my alternate universe portal!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{slowly}'' I'm trying to replenish some electrolytes, if you don't mind!

''{Homestar presses another button on the blender. He and the portal both suddenly disappear, and Sterrance appears on the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking around}'' Wow. Just look at all these Strong Bad-related faces. What an all-star cast! What say we all form a supergroup and record a number one jam!

''{All of the Strong Bad clones groan.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{off-screen, simultaneously with Old-Timey Strong Bad}'' I guess...

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously with Stinkoman}'' If we must.

''{The screen fades to black, and then cuts to Strong Bad in a recording studio. Some music starts playing, and continues through the rest of the e-mail.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' There's a crazy world of e-mails in this crazy world. ''{Cut to a reversed view of Strong Bad.}'' Checkin' 'em down, checkin' 'em down...

''{Cut to Stinkoman standing next to Strong Badman and Old-Timey Strong Bad.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{singing}'' I hope it's from a girrrrrrrl! 

''{Old-Timey Strong Bad winces and looks toward Stinkoman on his last word. Cut to a zoomed out view of the scene, revealing (from left to right), Stinkoman, Strong Badman, Old-Timey Strong Bad, Strong Bad, Vector Strong Bad, Keyboard Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage, Teenage Strong Bad, Sterrance and Tiny Handed Strong Bad. Strong Badman's words appear in speech bubbles next to him.}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' ''{singing}'' Save the last email for Strong Bad!

''{Cut to Senor Cardgage at the recording studio.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{singing}'' Let the little children go.

''{Cut to Vector Strong Bad in the field, which now has blue lines running above and below it.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I HOPE THEY DON'T A SPLODE

''{Cut back to a panning view of all the Strong Bads.}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' ''{singing}'' Save the last email for Strong—

''{Cut to Old-Timey Strong Bad in the recording studio just before "Bad".}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' —Bad!

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Save the last email for Strong Bad!

''{Da Huuuuuudge fades in from the right.}''

'''DA HUUUUUUDGE:''' ''{singing in a high voice with vibrato}'' Save the last email for meeeee!

''{A comic panel with Strong Badman in front of a green background slides into the upper-left corner toward the end of Da Huuuuuudge's line.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Save the last email!

''{Cut back to a view of all the Strong Bads. The camera slowly zooms out during Strong Bad's line.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All my Strong Bad doppelgängers represent. Sesquicentenn-email, 2005. I-I mean six.

''{The music stops. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on Teenage Strong Bad's hat to see a creation of Strong Sad's ideas from [[Sbemail 150?!?]]:
:''{Piano music, fade in on Coach Z holding a pear covered with eyeballs while black coffee continually streams down his mouthless face. Cut to a close-up of the pear with its eyes googling, then to another shot of the pear from behind Coach Z with his arm raised higher. Then cut to a close-up of Coach Z's head. Fade via black to the original shot. Homestar appears next to Coach Z.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{subtitled, in a fake backwards-sounding voice}'' Coach Z, if you're not going to eat that eyeball pear... ''{clears his throat, starts talking normally with no subtitles}'' I suggest you give it to someone who will.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{distressed}'' I don't know what's going on, Homestar, but I'm not at liberty to discuss what I just did in my pants!

*At the end, click on Senor Cardgage's head to see Strong Bad's meeting with him:
:''{Senor Cardgage is sitting in a boat on a lake, holding a stick with fishing line tied to the end, hanging over the side. Strong Bad appears in the boat.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow, a fishing trip with Senor Cardgage! My life is complete.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Alonzo Mourning to you, Myrtlebeth. Say hello to my tacklebox. ''{holds up said tacklebox}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello there, tacklebox. ''{smiles}'' I'm such a big fan.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Well, if you could just sign right here on the dotty line, the adaption will be complete.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''You're'' gonna adopt me?
:''{Strong Bad disappears}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen and echoing slightly}'' Aw, man!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
* A [[Wikipedia:Doppelgänger|Doppelgänger]] refers either to a creature from folklore that mimics people's appearances as an omen of death, or to the theory that everyone in the world has someone else that looks exactly like them.
** They are also apparent in [[Wikipedia:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]], making it a [[alternate universe#Real-World References|double reference]].
* [[Wikipedia:Sarsaparilla|Sarsaparilla]] (spelled incorrectly as "sarsparilla" in the flashback scene) is a type of plant used to make beverages, and is a common ingredient in [[Wikipedia:Root Beer|root beer]]. It is more commonly pronounced "sass-parilla" than "sar-sparilla" or "sar-sa-parilla".
* [[Wikipedia:Rent control|Rent control]] is a policy used in some urban communities where the market price is deemed too high. Rent controlled dwellings are highly coveted in the communities where they are available.
* Strong Bad's conversion of fourteen dollars into [[Wikipedia:Dog years|dog years]] refers to the often-confused (and inaccurate) folk formula that dogs age seven "years" for every human year.
*A freemason is a member of a fraternal men's organization such as the [[Wikipedia:York Rite|York Rite]] or the [[Wikipedia:Scottish Rite|Scottish Rite]]. Other organizations permitting women and/or minors as members, including [[Wikipedia:DeMolay International|DeMolay]], [[Wikipedia:Job's Daughters International|Job's Daughters]], [[Wikipedia:Order of the Eastern Star|Eastern Star]], etc., also fall under the umbrella of [[Wikipedia:freemasonry|freemasonry]].
*[[Wikipedia:Electrolyte|Electrolytes]] are solutions of [[Wikipedia:Ion|ions]] (such as sodium and potassium salts) that are lost during [[Wikipedia:perspiration|perspiration]]. Drinks containing electrolytes, such as popular sports drinks, are often used to ease [[Wikipedia:Dehydration|dehydration]].
*[[Wikipedia:Vaudeville|Vaudeville]] is a style of multi-act theatre that flourished in North America from the 1880s to the 1920s, later succeeded by silent movies. Acts included anything from acrobats to mathematicians, from song-and-dance duos to trick high divers.
*The "Dig To China With Your Ears Contest" may be a reference to old cartoons of the 1930s through 1960s that involve characters going through the center of the earth in some way or another and coming out on the other side, ending up in China.
*A [[Wikipedia:Supergroup (music)|Supergroup]] is a musical group comprising artists who were previously members of earlier groups.

===Trivia===
*This email is the longest email to date, almost a full minute longer than [[flashback]] (previously the longest).
*When Strong Bad jumps down several panels in the Strong Badman comic, he passes a panel containing an explosion (with the word "TADAOW!"), and another panel with [[Deutschman]] (from [[haircut]]) holding a chain of sausages. Deutschman is saying "KINDER UBERRASCHUNG!!", the German name for [[Wikipedia:Kinder Surprise|Kinder Surprise]] (though Uberraschung should be spelled Überraschung).
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#weird dreams|weird dreams]]".
*This is the first time Stinkoman has been seen smiling without laughing.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has no visible nose or ears, despite the fact that those body parts were mentioned in this e-mail.
*Senor Cardgage is the only one of Strong Bad's alter egos who had been seen talking with him prior to this email, as seen in [[kind of cool]], [[garage sale]], and [[Senorial Day]].
*This is a [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|rare]] occasion of Strong Bad being nice to Strong Sad.
*In [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], Strong Sad is seen writing with his right hand. However, in this email, Strong Sad is playing the [[Strong Sad's Guitar|guitar]] [[Left Handedness|left-handed]], though it is possible that Strong Sad is ambidextrous.
*Although it can be argued whether or not Stinkoman has actually smiled before, this is the first time his mouth has been recognizably smile-shaped.
*The puppet Strong Bad is the only doppelgänger Strong Bad visited that did not appear in the ending screen, for obvious reasons.
*This is the first time we hear the Da Huuuuuudge's voice.
*Frappé is spelt as "Frappe" when Strong Bad talks to The Cheat. It is lacking the accent.
*In the recording studio, the characters are using a wireless microphone. While wireless microphones are handy in live performance (to prevent signal loss on a long cable run, as well as to avoid tangling of cables), they are actually rarely used in studio work because a cabled microphone will deliver truer fidelity.
*Homestar pronounces the word "fruit" without his usual speech impediment.
*During the Vector Strong Bad segment, the cartoon's border changes to red.

[[Image:Altuniv1318-1319.png|thumb|From blue to green.]]

===Goofs===
*During the "Because, mere mortal" comic scene, the panel below the next panel has a blue background. In the next scene ("Is rent controlled!"), that panel now has a green background.
*The second time everyone says "Save the last email for Strong Bad", you can see that Strong Bad's pants have changed from black to dark navy, but not the pant legs. (Compare to Keyboard Strong Bad standing next to him.)
**This happens a few times in the email, such as when Strong Bad meets Vector Strong Bad.
*During the recording session at the end, the wall's grey spot pattern is made from a single image of dots copied and pasted multiple times. This results in some half dots appearing between the copied images.
*When Strong Bad first jumps into the Alternate Universe Portal, his stool disappears briefly while he's in the process of warping. It briefly reappears after Strong Bad leaves, but for the remainder of the email, the stool is missing.
*After cutting to the wide shot showing The Cheat with the blender, the Lappy's screen includes the text "Isn't that right, The Cheat?", even though Strong Bad didn't actually type it.

[[Image:Alternateuniversegoof.png|thumb|Disappearing start line.]]
*In the "Save The Last Email" song, Vector Strong Bad is behind Strong Badman, yet his white and green lines appear above Strong Badman when talking/singing.
*In the "Dig to China with your ears contest" part, the starting line disappears when the camera cuts to the giant mug of root beer.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When the email was released, "girl" was misspelled as "gir" in Jody's email. This was fixed shortly thereafter.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's intro song refers to flipping [[the bird]].
*Strong Sad was previously seen playing an acoustic guitar in a recent [[Sketchbook#SK-2006-03-02|Sketchbook]], although that guitar was a twelve-string. Here he plays a six-string classical guitar.
[[Image:HSRTimeMachine.PNG|thumb|Homestar's Time machine]]
*The alternate dimension machine is a [[Blender#Game Boy in a Blender|Game Boy in a Blender]]. In [[2 emails]], Homestar claims to have made a time machine by sticking a Game Boy in a [[Blender|blender]] while the email is fast-forwarding.
*This is another example of [[Mashing Go|Mashing Go/Play]].
*The "In a bulding"  line, including its accent and pronunciation, is straight from the [[Sketchbook (video)|DVD Sketchbook]] (though it was spelled correctly there).
*Strong Bad visits many previous emails in his travels:
**Strong Badman and Stiny originated in [[superhero name]].
**Deutschman originated in [[haircut]].
**Vector Strong Bad is from [[video games]].
**Stinkoman originated in [[japanese cartoon]].
**Tiny-handed Strong Bad is from [[flashback]].
**Keyboard Strong Bad originated in [[crazy cartoon]] and played the same song then as in this email. 
**Da Huuuuuudge and Sterrance are both from [[animal]].
**Teenage Strong Bad and the term "stripèd pants" are from [[highschool]].
**Senor Cardgage originated in [[kind of cool]].
*In addition, some of the music accompanying the scenes Strong Bad visits are also reused from other parts of the website. They include:
**The music from [[action figure]]; later used in [[suntan]] and [[army]] (during the Strong Badman scene).
**Old-Timey Strong Bad's theme music from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]]; later used in [[50 emails]] (during the Old-Timey scene).
**[[The Homestar Runner]]'s dance music (also during the Old-Timey scene).
**The synthesized drum tune from [[Main Page 21]] (during the [[Vector Field]] scene).
**The music from [[flashback]] (during the [[Original Book]] scene).
**Keyboard Strong Bad's demo music from [[crazy cartoon]].
**The weird music during Coach Z's dream scene from [[A Jorb Well Done]]; later used in [[lures & jigs]] (during the fishing Easter egg scene with Senor Cardgage).
**The creepy music during Strong Sad's storyboard scenes from [[Sbemail 150?!?]] (during the Coach Z Easter egg).
*The fence used for the puppet Strong Badia set is the same one used in [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]].
*The Easter egg with coffee-drenched Coach Z and the eyeball pear begins exactly as described and storyboarded by Strong Sad in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]. Also, the word ''sesquicentenn-email'', which would mean "150th email", was coined by Strong Sad in Sbemail 150?!?.
*The fishing boat, lake and background sounds are all from [[lures & jigs]].
*The woman on Strong Badman's television is holding a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]].
*"Doge" is a reference to [[Biz Cas Fri 1]], where Homestar misspells the word "dog" ("dawg") the same way.
*Strong Bad comments that the "Dig To China With Your Ears Contest" is the "second or third to worst contest I ever heard of." The worst contests that originated in children's storybooks are likely to be the "Strongest Man in the World Contest" from the [[Original Book]], and the "Ten Step Footrace" from [[flashback]]. 
*This is another appearance of the [[Dangeresque]] sunglasses.
*The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
*Strong Bad previously mentioned "real fruit smoothies" in [[mascot]] when the team won the game.
*Homestar Runner's "real fruit smoothie" is another example of a [[Concoctions|concoction]].

=== Real-World References ===
* [[Wikipedia:Cacodemons|Cacodemons]] are evil spirits or demons, the opposite being an angel or "agathodemon". However, the name cacodemon is better known as the flying, red, one-eyed enemy from the ''[[Wikipedia:Doom|Doom]]'' series of computer games. The plot for these games involved demons escaping hell via portals.
* [[Wikipedia:Adobe Photoshop|Adobe Photoshop]] is a widely used image editor from Adobe Systems Incorporated. The term "[[Wikipedia:Photoshopping|Photoshopped]]" has come to mean any digital edit done to an image, even if it wasn't done in Photoshop itself. The term is often used pejoratively to say that something is rather obviously edited.
* The pronunciation "ohbee kaybee" for "okay" originated with [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]]. It was heard in his "Dentist" routine, and was also popularized by the character Mushmouth from ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]]''.
* The way Strong Bad travels from panel to panel while visiting Strong Badman may be inspired by the videogame ''[[Wikipedia:Comix Zone|Comix Zone]]''.
* [[Wikipedia:She-Hulk|She-Hulk]] is a comic book heroine from [[Wikipedia:Marvel Comics|Marvel Comics]] and the cousin of ''[[Wikipedia:Hulk (comics)|The Incredible Hulk]]''. She-Hulk comics were once noted for their [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth-wall breaks]], similar to Strong Bad's comments on the quality of the Strong Badman comic and his ability to travel from panel to panel. These not-always-appreciated gags were introduced by writer [[Wikipedia:John Byrne|John Byrne]], who may be the "genius" Strong Bad ridicules.
* The surreal Coach Z Easter egg is an homage to a famous scene from the similarly surreal TV series, ''[[Wikipedia:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]]''. The background for the scene featured red drapes, and the starring character, Dale Cooper, spills coffee on himself, represented here by Coach Z's streaming hat of coffee. The unusual speech used by Homestar, meanwhile, was the hallmark of the scene; the actors actually spoke their dialogue backwards, and the recording was then played in reverse, so that the words were heard by the audience in their proper order (though they still sounded unusual and contorted, just as Homestar sounds here). It seems as though Matt Chapman faked this technique, rather than actually recording his lines backwards. ''Twin Peaks'' was co-created by director [[Wikipedia:David Lynch|David Lynch]], who Strong Sad cited as an influence in [[Sbemail 150?!?]].
* [[Wikipedia:Alonzo Mourning|Alonzo Mourning]] is an NBA basketball player.
*The phrase 'maxed and relaxed' may be a reference to the ''[[Wikipedia:The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air|Fresh Prince of Bel-Air]]'' theme song, in which [[Wikipedia:Will Smith|Will Smith]] states he is "maxin' and relaxin' all cool". Additionally, Smith uses the phrase throughout the series and his own raps.
*Stinkoman calls Strong Bad "big nose", a derogatory term used in eastern Asia to describe Westerners, whose noses tend to be genetically larger than Asians'. This is also a reference to the anime art style, where noses are less pronounced than most American cartoons.
* The all-star super group recording a number one jam calls to mind [[Wikipedia:Band Aid (band)|Band Aid]] (a collaboration of forty-four artists in the UK and Ireland, releasing the hit single "Do They Know It's Christmas?" in 1984, the profits from which were used for famine and disease relief in Africa) and the similar [[Wikipedia:USA for Africa|USA for Africa]] (a group of forty-five U.S. musicians that collaborated on the number one single "We Are the World" in 1985).
*The [[Fonts|font]] in the comic book alternative universe, known as "Peanuts", was designed to emulate the style of lettering used in the ''[[Wikipedia:Peanuts|Peanuts]]'' comics.
* The [[Sound Effects|sound effect]] in the fishing Easter Egg that starts right after Strong Bad says "Wow, a fishing trip with Senor Cardgage!" is from ''[[Wikipedia:Fishing with John|Fishing With John]]''.



==External Links==
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Talk:Experimental Film

Uglinessman — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:24:51 GMT

Uglinessman: /* John Link */

== Disputed Fun Facts ==
*In the commentary, Strong Bad comments that Gavin got as much screen time as he did, but Strong Bad actually has just over 3 times more screen time that Gavin. Strong Bad has about 10 seconds altogether, whereas Gavin has just 3 seconds.

*In the commentary, The Cheat has probably his most comprehensible lines ever, and at least one is even completely decipherable ("You don't like the video, huh?")
**I couldn't comprehend any of what The Cheat said.
**I agree. The first thing he says can be easily translated to "And this is The Cheat."

*In the commentary, Strong Sad's remark that it's the "Worst commentary ever" might be a refrence to the comic book guy on The Simpsons.
**How? And in what way?
***The comic book guy is a movie/series/comic-nerd stereotype, saying things like "worst episode ever", "worst cross-over ever" etc. For more information consult http://www.snpp.com/guides/cbg.file.html

Methinks the link to They Might Be A Wiki should be http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Untitled/Lyrics
*The comment about the glass being full seems a bit unnecessary.
**Second That.

*The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad is a reference to [http://www.3drealms.com/keenhistory/ Commander Keen], Defender of the Universe!
**That's a big stretch. The only thing I can find in common is that the ATM has a mostly-yellow football helmet. Are yellow football helmets that rare? The ATM is doing nothing like Commander Keen (i.e. jumping, zapping, etc.) and I don't recall any Strong Sad-like enemies in the games.
***I'm going to agree. The "rivet holes" on the ATM's helmet don't match and the stripe colors on the helmets are different. Nevertheless, the yellow helmet did make me think of Commander Keen the first time I saw it.

==I just can't resist==

The first line of the song is "The color of infinity inside an empty glass." Strong Sad's glass is full. 

* But Strong Sad would still think of it as "not-really-empty", wouldn't he? Okay, okay, bad joke over. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:44, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

:But what is an "[[Wikipedia:Is the glass half empty or half full|empty glass]]" anyway?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:28, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

== I've been listening to too much music ==

Ok, this probably isn't very relevant, but I've noticed some paralells between this video and the tracks on TMBG's album Apollo 18. Only the people who have heard the CD will probably understand some of these. Also, I'm gonna skip the one's I haven't figured out yet.:

1 (Dig My Grave): Strong Sad as the grim reaper

2 (I Palindrome I): The palindromic formation of the ATM machines saying "experimental film" in the Artic.

3 (She's Actual Size): I dunno, maybe the giant finger coming from the water, since the song is about a really big woman.

4 (My Evil Twin): Everybody meeting their counterparts (and pogo-ing).

5 (Mammal): Another dubious one. Maybe the glass of water in the beginning (the lyrics in the beginning of Mammal are "glass of milk")

7 (Spider): Gavin the Cockroach. Ok, so he's not a spider per se, but he's another icky bug.

8 (The Guitar): The lion (since half of this song is about some lion)

9 (Dinner Bell): The muffin on the table.

10 (Narrow your Eyes): Strong Sad narrows his eyes after the ATM says "Check Balance??".

11 (Hall of Heads): John and John's heads, of course. Also, the "Our Gracious Host" guy.

15 (Turn Around): The skull guy riding the bike (Turn around/ turn around/ it's a human skull on the ground)

Well, that's all I can think of for now. Of course, I'm skipping over all the "Fingertips" songs, that would take up way too much space. Anyway, if anyone else has heard this CD and noticed any more paralells, please post 'em.

:Oh, you are going to love [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page This Might Be A Wiki], the wiki dedicated to TMBG. Check out [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Experimental_Film their page for Experimental Film] and especially the [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Experimental_Film/Interpretations interpretations page for the song], where you can pretty much add what you added here. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST) 

Yeah, I go there a lot. And... well, look at my username! [[User:TMBGirl|TMBGirl]] 21:30, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Awkward Actions...==

Alright, after watching this a few times, I have a question. At two points in the video, Strong Sad is bobbing his head, and you can see a film reel right next to him, then the rest of the page is blank. However, I can't figure out exactly why Strong Sad was doing. Was he nodding his head to the beat of the song or following the film reel as it moved up toward the top of the screen?

*Hmm, I always figured he was watching the film, which seems to make sense considering that he then jumps across the reel. The way I look at it, he watches the film, then decides to interact with it in some way, in this case jumping across. And Strong Sad himself doesn't really seem to acknowledge the music in the movie. It's a very good question though. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

*{scratching head} It seems to me that GronSad (or, in this case, Rondell) is watching for some opportunity in the film through which he might escape. So, there you go. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]]

== Transcript ==

The commentary transcript does little to explain what is actually going on in the video as the characters speak. Is there any reason this was left out?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:36, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)
:To answer your question, I don't think there's any reason why it was left out, other than difficulty in doing so? I also noticed that there are two commentaries (and they are different!) So there's two jobs to be done and I have no DVDs. So i'll see (?) if I can later... on work on the transcript? Maybe? The website one that is. Yeah, the website one. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:22, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I hesitate to do an edit, but it really sounds like Homestar is saying "Simple Giants" instead of "Super Giants." Anyone want to back me up? -- [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
:Super giants. Definately. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Defin'''a'''tely. No, really, I agree. :[[User:Elvis|Elvis]]

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===The Worst Commentary Ever===
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Accept''' I still think that it does ring true of the Simpsons, and that it qualifies</s> Ah for that youthful indulgence. I change my vote to '''DECLINE''' after realizing how blantently not true this is-[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Worst...Accept...EVER!!''' Yeah, I'm gonna hafta say that's true. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:49, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's not said right for it to be a reference to that. They say the phrase without pauses, or extra emphasis on the words "worst" and "ever". Had Strong Sad said, "WORST....commentary....EVER", without saying, "this is the" first, I'd agree. Unless it's said like that, it's most likely just a simple use of a common phrase, and not a reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
===Football helmet = reference?===
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' Dude, it's just a helmet. -Walking Armless
===The Clarke of infinity===
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
===Now spell: bound===
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE... ED! Yeah, decline-ed''' Thoguh it's a good movie, I don't think it's a reference to it. It may, however, be a reference to the other meaniong of spellbound, meaning havinbg been set under a spell. If you change it to that, it may be accepted. -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*Decline I shave too, but I'm not thinking of any alfred hitchcock movie when I do it. He' just shaving, that's all there is to it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
===Un Chien Debaser===
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
***'''Third.''' --[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:39, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Rebuttal''' This explains a reference elsewhere. Simply put it in an "outside references" subsection and let it go yous guys. -da borg
**'''Personal Comment''' Un Chien Andalou gave me nightmares, don't watch it. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
===Calvin and the Cotton Gin (Declined)===
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*****'''Hehe, cease. Tis a funny word.''' *watches as people give me wierd looks*... Well, its true. Cease is a funny word. Neway, I '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:57, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decwine''' This is true, but not relevant. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:50, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be that the question was 'What did Eli Whitney invent?' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept''' Sigh, the only accept. I've never even read only Calvin and Hobbes before and I know about the Cotton Gin thing. I've seen it many, many places. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 19:39, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The Water ===
{{stufffact|The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.}}
{{stuffverdict|01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)|07:46, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|12|0|Experimental Film}}

==Broken link?==
Could someone verify the .swf for the director's commentary? [[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 05:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:The swf downloads, but appears to be empty. Also, the cleanup template is generally used to mark articles which need a drastic revision / overhaul, not just one fix. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 05:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:It's good, but it does ''seem'' to be empty. I added clarification to the page - better now? {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Got it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Thank you! And thanks for the feedback re the template. [[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]]

== On DVD ==

In case anybody cares (since this isn't being posted on the main page, or anywhere else for that matter), They Might Be Giants are releasing the H*R Experimental Film Video on DVD on their upcoming album. You can pre-order it [http://store.yahoo.com/tmbg-catalog/vensondualdi.html here]. I don't know whether this disk will be released before the H*R DVD with all the shorts will be out. Anyway, if you really want the video on DVD, you can order it. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 17:42, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Random fool's opinion ==

I just love the song. It's my favorite TMBG song ever. Seriously. To quote Strong Bad: "Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about! That was amazing! I mean, you just...I just...I can't bel...chigedybu..He just...I'm buying you a pizza!"--[[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 01:51, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

==Will Wright?==

Ok, this is probably the stupidest idea ever, but doesn't that Gracious Host guy kind of resemble Will Wright without glasses? You know, the guy who made Simcity and The Sims? Do an image search. He kind of looks like Will Wright to me! I'm not delusional! I hope... [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] 04:51, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:On the one hand, yeah, I see what you're talking about and can confirm that you're not delusional. On the other hand, how many Caucasian males with the mustache-goatee-combo who part their hair would it ''not'' resemble? (Also, Will parts his on the opposite side.) I had always assumed it was a portrait of somebody connected with TMBG. If not, maybe it's one of TBC's friends? This has the makings of a great mystery. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:56, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::It would be cool if this turned into a running gag. Someone should interview TBC about this. [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] 05:00, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Cheat Talking ==

Okay, guys, The Cheat definitely says "Mehmu-Shemmiddy Sha." Not "You don't like the video, huh?". In the context of the commentary, he is more likely asking about the quiz. It would be kinda weird to hear him speak in English other than his "Powered by the Cheat" voices though. :[[User:Elvis|Elvis]]
:Seconded. [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"|We don't put words in The Cheat's mouth.]] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== That's not what "They're" called! ==

The folks at [http://www.tmbw.net This Might Be a Wiki], masters of all things Giants, have a specific standard: Whenever TMBG are referred to by the pronoun 'They' -- or a vairiation ('Their', etc.) -- it's capitalized. (A good example of this would be [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Lyrics:They_Got_Lost_%28The_Song%29 the Wiki's transcription of "They Got Lost".]) Throughout multiple points in the commentary tracks, this situation happens. Currently, we have the pronouns lowercase. Should we go ahead and change it, or leave it be? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 16:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm. That's a style choice unique to one source. It doesn't rise to the level of, say, capitalizing the pronouns which refer to the Christian deity. I think normal capitalization is fine. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Speaking as a long-time TMBG fan, I agree with [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]], the convention of capitalizing the 'T' should be reserved for forums specifically devoted to TMBG, not every time they're mentioned elsewhere. - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

== John Link ==

In the cast, should we link to [[TMBW:John Flansburgh]] and [[TMBW:John Linnell]], instead of linking to [[They Might Be Giants|our page]] three times? --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 16:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

:That's a tough call, mainly because neither of them actually appear in the video. We see the tops of two cartoon heads which are assumed to be them, and their voices are indeed heard in the song... but, y'know, since they had no direct involvement in this particular video project, I think that linkig to the band page here is fair, since what we're dealing with is a video based on the music of They Might Be Giants. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 14:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
::I'm talking about They Might Be Giants being linked [[HRWiki:Standards#Link_once|three times]]. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 21:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, I understand now... and it appears to have been fixed. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 12:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Experimental Film

Uglinessman — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:04:56 GMT

Uglinessman: /* John Link */

The Luau

Uglinessman — Thu, 18 May 2006 21:56:28 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Trivia */ Missy Palmer - LINK'D

{{toonnav|Big Toon|luau2|A Jorb Well Done|Where's The Cheat?}}
[[Image:luau.PNG|thumb|Strong Bad's "Party"]]

Marzipan and Strong Bad's parties just happen to fall on the same day, but Strong Bad's seems to fall apart...

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, [[Tofu Homestar]], {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's Gazebo]], [[The Field|Strong Bad's Backyard]]

'''Date:''' 2001

'''Running Time:''' 5:36

'''Page Title:''' The Luau

== Transcript ==

''{The screen wavers over name tag cards that read "Hello my name is a new homestar runner cartoon" and all the staff, then cut to the luau, with a card reading:}''

<blockquote>You're invited to 
a Meatless Luau! 
 
featuring: 
Ancient Hawaiian Poetry 
read by Strong Sad 
accompanied by 
Marzipan on her Ukelele 
(pronounced oo-koo-lay-lay) 
 
When: TODAY Where: MARZIPAN'S</blockquote>

''{Eventually the card spins out, revealing a banner reading "Aloha!" Marzipan is walking to some cooking tofu. Homestar appears to be urinating behind the gazebo}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oo-koo-lay-lay. Oo-koo-lay-lay. Mm! Lookin' pretty good. Homestar, come up here right now and watch the tofu, please.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhhh... Hang on. I'm um... doing... something.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Chop-chop! Everyone's gonna be here any minute.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, Marzipan, I hate to tell you this, but... I don't think anyone's coming to your party. I think they're all going to Strong Bad's Marshmallow Roast!!

''{The invitation to Strong Bad's Marshmallow Roast spins onto screen as the old CBS Special music plays. It reads:}''

<blockquote>Your invited to a 
Marshmallow Roast 
 
when: same day as marzipan's stupid luau 
 
where: my backyard 
 
time: same time as marzipan's stupid luau 
</blockquote>

'''MARZIPAN:''' What?! He scheduled something on the same day as the luau?

''{scene transition to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man you guys, this party's gonna be crazy-go-nuts! Check it out! I've got the marshmallows ''{spreads his hand over said marshmallows}'', I've got all the latest releases from the artists of today ''{cut to boombox playing [[Poot Slap]]}'', and I've carefully filled out everybody's name tags. ''{close up of picnic table filled with name tags that all say "Hello, my name is Crap for Brains"}'' Oh, crap!! I forgot the wood! Come on guys, I know where we can hork some.

''{Scene cuts to Marzipan's backyard}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oo-koo-lay-lay. Oo-koo-l ''{Homestar interrupts with a sigh and comes over but Marzipan continues to sing}'' ay-lay.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've gotta stop drinkin' so much melonade. I think I have a serious problem.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''You're'' gonna have a problem if you don't monitor this tofu. I have to tune my oo-koo-lay-lay.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay. ''{singing to himself}'' A doo doo, a doo doo doo, a doot doo doo doo. A bab-dib do doo doo—

''{In the distance, Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat poke their heads onto the screen from the left, looking at the gazebo. The camera pans right to remove them from the shot, and Strong Sad is revealed standing on the other side of the fire.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! Strong Sad! How long have you been standing there?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, about 20 minutes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, okay. ''{takes a step away}'' That's weird.

''{scene transition to Strong Bad's backyard. Poot Slap is playing in the background. Everybody is wearing their "Crap for Brains" name tag.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walking past the Poopsmith, Bubs and Coach Z)'' Ah, Crap for Brains, glad to see you could make it! Oh, Crap for Brains, you lookin' good! Now, let's get this freakin' party started! ''{Lights a match}'' We'll just get this fire started here. With a little match, and a little fire. ''{holds match up to firewood, but it doesn't light}'' And this should probably be working already. Um, and I don't know why this isn't working.

''{Cut to Marzipan's gazebo where Strong Sad is holding a book that says "Polynesian Prose."}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Kallo koo-koo lay kua ka loo ''{cut to the tofu where Homestar is standing. Strong Sad's poetry can be heard in the background.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{His head keeps drooping down, then coming back up, resisting the urge to fall asleep.}'' Zzzzz... Huh! Soooo... Zzzzz... Huh! Boooooooooring.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's roast, where eleven burnt matches are sitting on the ground. Strong Bad is kneeling down next to the stack of firewood with a lit match}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{frustrated}'' UUUUUGH! ''{grumbling}'' Stupid matches, freakin' light the fire!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{rubs belly}'' UUUUUUG. HUNGRY!

'''BUBS:''' I'm with Strong Mad! I feel about as hungry as The King of Town on a Saturday!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm trying! I'm trying! Gtch! ''{taunting voice}'' Hello, my name is piece of wood and I don't want to catch fire. Hello, my name is little ''match'', and I don't want to ''make'' a fire! ''{completely aggravated}'' HELLOOOO! MY NAME IS FIRE, AND I'M NOT COMING TO YOUR STUPID PARTY!!!!!

''{Strong Bad knocks a log at the viewer. Homestar then walks onto the scene.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm coming to your stupid party.

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh man, Pom Pom! I love Marzipan and everything, but it was terrible!

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I don't think she'll notice I'm gone.

''{cut to Marzipan's gazebo, where Marzipan is playing her ukelele and Strong Sad is reading poetry. Next to the tofu cooking is another piece of tofu, with Homestar's head drawn on it. It is on top of a piece of tofu which has Homestar's body drawn on it. They are being held up by two long sticks. The tofu cooking catches fire.}''

''{cut back to Strong Bad's roast. Strong Bad is trying yet again, and unsuccessfully, to make a fire.}''

'''COACH Z:''' What kind of wood you usin' there, Strong Bad? 'Cause ya know, I know a guy who—

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know man, I stole this stuff from Marzipan's backyard.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh-oh. You didn't get it from behind the gazebo, did you?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, why?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, it all started when I decided to drink 32 glasses of melonade...

'''BUBS:''' Look! There's a fire over there!

''{suddenly, smoke arises from somewhere, then everyone looks at each other and runs, except for Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aaah, come back, you guys, things were just about to start getting crazy-go-nuts!

''{Everyone runs to the source of the fire - which happens to be Marzipan's still-flaming tofu. They roast their marshmallows over it.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Look Strong Sad, everybody's here!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, how glorious.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey everybody, how's the tofu? ''{Cut to Coach Z, Pom Pom, and Bubs chewing on marshmallows, then back to Marzipan}'' Everyone loves tofu!

''{Musical sting, then transition to Strong Bad's place, where he has finally given up and is trying to roast a marshmallow over a lit match. Scattered bags of unopened marshmallows are sitting on the ground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, you guys, come back! I think I got it all figured out now! Oh, man! What am I supposed to do with all these leftover marshmallows? I bought, like, four hundred pounds!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walking by, humming, then looks at Strong Bad.}'' Oh, excuse me, but did I hear you say... leftovers?

''{close up of a nametag reading "the end for brains"}''

''{transition to Marzipan's backyard, where Marzipan is talking to the tofu model of Homestar. There is a flame on his "head".}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thanks for helping me with my party today, Homestar. I think it was a really big success! ''{she nuzzles him}'' You've been really nice to me the last few minutes! ''{Tofu Homestar's "head" falls off. Blackout, record scratch}'' Put your head back on this instant!

''{Cut to the [[Luau Main Page]].}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:luau|luau]] is a type of feast prominent in Hawaiian culture. It consists primarily of traditional Polynesian song and dance and the eating of an ethnic dish called [[Wikipedia:Poi_%28food%29|poi]], as well as roasting pork and salmon over an open rotisserie. Since Marzipan is a vegetarian, however, she instead roasts a slab of [[Wikipedia:tofu|tofu]].

===Trivia===
*Among the phrases of "Polynesian Prose" that Strong Sad recites are "[[Wikipedia:Kahlua|Kahlua]] and Creme," an alcoholic drink; and "Meka Leka Hi Meka Heiny Ho," which were Jambi's magic words on the TV show [[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-wee's Playhouse]].
*This the first time Strong Bad uses the term 'crazy-go-nuts', something which will eventually evolve into [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].
*This is the first time [[Missy Palmer]] has been credited as a writer.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad's invitation says "Your invited," misspelling "you're." This is ironic since Strong Bad has a penchant for scoffing at spelling and grammar mistakes when checking his email.
**Strong Bad even sings a song about the differences of the two words in [[local news]].
*When you first see Strong Sad standing next to the fire, in the background, you see the lights across the fence somehow seem to just stop from where scene view would have ended.
*Interestingly, Strong Bad's [[Ghetto Blastro]] displays moving bars even when it isn't playing.
*The invitation to the Luau says that Strong Sad will be reading "Ancient Hawaiian Poetry", yet his book says "Polynesian Prose."
*Strong Mad's logo on his chest is slightly different from the previous toon, [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*The sound effect played while Strong Bad's invitation is displayed is the same one used in old holiday toons.
*This is another instance of [[Foreign words|foreign words]] being mispronounced.

===Goofs===
*When we see Strong Sad for the first time, the lights on the fence stop in midair.
*When Coach Z turns his head, his "Crap for brains" name tag is reversed.
*The wheels on the tape do not turn in Strong Bad's [[Ghetto Blastro]].
*After Strong Bad had "figured it all out", he puts his roasting stick down and the marshmallow disappears.

===Inside References===
*The tune Marzipan is playing on the ukelele is the song "Thoughts on a Bird" from the game [[Audition With Marzipan]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The music heard when the invitation to Strong Bad's Marshmallow Roast is shown is a reference to the logo and music that CBS used to preface their specials. The actual opening, used from 1973 to the late 1980's, is viewable [http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/international/video/cbsspecial1987.rm here] (this requires RealPlayer to view). This was used earlier in [[A Holiday Greeting]].
*The sound of everybody running is a generic sound effect used in old [[Wikipedia:Cartoon Network Studios|Hanna-Barbera]] cartoons.

===Fast Forward===
*The phrase "Things were just about to start getting crazy-go-nuts!" would be used again on [[personal favorites]] and [[Main Page 22]].

== External Links ==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/luau2.html watch "The Luau"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/luau2.swf watch the Flash file for "The Luau"]
[[Category:Toons|Luau, The]]

Talk:isp

Uglinessman — Thu, 18 May 2006 08:30:44 GMT

Uglinessman: /* missing arm */

Talk:isp

Uglinessman — Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:38 GMT

Uglinessman: missing arm

Talk:band names

Uglinessman — Sun, 14 May 2006 18:25:28 GMT

Uglinessman: "Misspelling method" examples

== Advertisement ==
Hey guys at homestar runner.com I am in a christian heavy metal band and am trying to find a different name for my band. The current name Sinful Regret just dosen't feel very metal. Ya know so please help me find a new name

Signed Lost and confussed

:I can sympathize, but this doesn't belong on the Wiki. Feel free to create a user account and talk about your band on your user page, or make a post in the Off-Subject Discussion area of our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum], but Wiki discussion pages should only contain discussion about the Wiki. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:15, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)

==Richie Kotzen==
Whoever found the Richie Kotzen thing deserves a trophy, for serious. I always wondered if I'd misheard his name, and I guess that explains it. Thanks a ton! --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 01:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== "Misspelling method" examples ==

In the section explaining about bands having names which are intentional misspellings of words and phrases, the example of [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]] was deleted, the rationale being ''"The Beatles" took their name as a play on the word "beat", not as a reference to the insect''. While it's true the word "beat" is the center of the pun, the pun is still there. It's not a "reference to" the insect specifically, but it's very obviously supposed to sound like the word "beetles", which makes it the most famous example of the type of band name being discussed. In fact, most of the band names offered as valid examples aren't specifically references to the thing being spelled incorrectly, it's the misspelling that's half the point. Def Leppard isn't a band devoted to songs about large cats, Aerosmith don't intend to teach people about the art of arrow making, and the remaining members of Led Zepplin don't likely care if their name brings to mind images of vintage blimps. If you insist on removing it again, the only rationale should be that the other examples given are of bands that are, or were considered at one time to be, metal, and it's obvious that the subject at hand is metal bands, but as a band name, The Beatles are a perfect example. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

band names

Uglinessman — Sun, 14 May 2006 18:13:23 GMT

Uglinessman: The Beatles still count, see talk page...

{{sbenav|16|the basics|studying}}

[[Image:sbemail16.PNG|thumb|The first appearance of the totally awesome Limozeen]]

Dan asks Strong Bad for advice on a name for his new band.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' March 4, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:12

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400!!!

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing to the tune of [[The Cheat Theme Song]]}'' Who's that giving Strong Bad a hand? Email... Email... ''{stops singing}''

<blockquote class="tandy email">hey strong bad, 
help us come up with a name for our band. i was 
thinking about 'invisible robot fish' or 'for good or 
for awesome.' hurry up please, we have our first 
show tomorrow. 
you rule 
- dan</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears screen, typing}'' Well, Dan, the easiest way is to, you know, just have a really cool last name and use that. You know like Van Halen, or Dokken, or to a lesser extent,... Z'Nuff. ''{clears screen}'' The other way is to take a really cool word but then spell it all wrong. You know like... ''{stops typing}'' "LAZOR",—

''{An index card with "LAZOR" written on it with red, jagged text appears onscreen. The L's bottom line goes beneath the other letters and connects to the R. All the other letters are connected as well. There's a red light flash after the word. High-pitched music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —or "BIGG NIFE",—

''{The previous image disappears and another logo comes up. It uses blue text and has "BIGG" written on top in an metallic font, and then has "NIFE" written below it in a rounded font and an upward pointing knife replacing the letter I. A guitar strums.}''

'''SINGER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Well, all right!

'''STRONG BAD:''' —or something like "TARANCHULA"—

''{"BIGG NIFE" disappears and "TARANCHULA" comes up with red text. All the letters except for the C, U and L have long fangs hanging downward, and the first A, the N, and the last A are dripping something. Spooky-ish music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —or maybe like "LIMOZEEN".

''{"TARANCHULA" disappears and the Limozeen logo comes up with the diamond-style blue text for everything but the red lightning-shaped "Z" in the middle. Gentle guitar music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, ''{starts typing}'' these are all—

''{The index card crinkles up and disappears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —great names. ''{stops typing}'' And you know, ''{resumes typing}'' go ahead and take them. I'm not going to charge you or nothing. Just, uh, put me on the guest list plus one for that show huh? I'll probably take Pom-Pom. ''{stops typing}'' You know, ''{resumes typing}'' He's been pretty cool lately. ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so tune in next week, when my guests will be Lemmy from Motörhead and the guys from Krokus!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Goofs===

*Strong Bad accidentally puts a space before a comma with no space following when he types: ''"the easiest way is to ,you know"''

===Inside References===

*Bigg Nife is a reference to the recurring [[Big Knife]], which was first mentioned in [[i love you]].
*"For Good or for Awesome," one of the potential band names Dan puts forth, was taken from [[some kinda robot]].
*The coffee cup ring on the [[Index Cards|index card]] is from the recipe card in the [[Homestar Quiz]] when you get all of them right.


===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:Van Halen|Van Halen]], [[Wikipedia:Enuff Z'nuff|Enuff Z'nuff]], [[Wikipedia:Motörhead|Motörhead]], [[Wikipedia:Krokus|Krokus]], and [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]] are real bands.
*[[Wikipedia:Dolly Parton|Dolly Parton]] released an album called "White Limozeen" in 1989.
*Strong Bad's "take a really cool word, but then spell it all wrong" method of band-name generation is most likely a reference to real-world bands such as [[Wikipedia:Led Zeppelin|Led Zeppelin]], [[Wikipedia:Def Leppard|Def Leppard]] and [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]], whose names seem to contain intentional spelling errors.
*"Lemmy from Motörhead" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Lemmy Kilmister|Lemmy Kilmister]] of the real-life band Motörhead.

===Fast Forward===

*[[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]] have become actual bands in the Homestar Runner universe.
*When Strong Bad says the name of each made up band, you hear music and things in the background. Bigg Nife was what really ended up sounding like Limozeen, as mentioned in the commentary below.
*The misspelling "lazor" later reappeared in [[new hands]] and [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].

==DVD Version==

*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===

('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' That's, of course, The Cheat Party— I mean The Skate Party theme song for The Cheat. ''{pause}'' Uh, this was, I remember thinking this was the heyday of, like, when we were making these.

'''MIKE:''' This was a fun one to make 'cause I remember you were still working and we did it, um, we finished it up at the end, I think, the morning before you went to work ''{inaudible}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I was going into work around 11 or 12.

'''MIKE:''' I remember recording the guitar parts at, like, 8 or 9 in the morning.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Uh, and making the, uh, coming up with the note cards and stuff. ''{makes guitar noises}'' That was pretty good. I like that uh, stain. What—what is that? Is that coffee? It looks more like Kool-Aid, though. It's a little red.

'''MIKE:''' More like what?

'''MATT:''' Kool-Aid? Fruit punch?

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's supposed to be coffee.

'''MATT:''' Well, you did a bad job.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks.

'''MATT:''' Poor...representation.

'''MIKE:''' I like—I just hit a harmonic note there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, and that—it's—funny, though, because, like—

'''MIKE:''' Limozeen sounds nothing like that.

'''MATT:''' —Bigg Nife, yeah, Bigg Nife was what really ended up sounding like the Limozeen we've made today whereas this Limozeen just sounds like...Richie Kotzen...like, Deliverance.

'''MIKE:''' Extreme. Yeah.

'''MATT:''' That's a good song. You guys should check that out. Richie Kotzen.

'''MIKE:''' A lot of people listening to this aren't going to know about Richie Kotzen.

===Fun Facts===

*[[Wikipedia:Richie Kotzen|Richie Kotzen]] is a virtuosic guitarist who has been a member of [[Wikipedia:Poison (band)|Poison]] and [[Wikipedia:Mr. Big (band)|Mr. Big]], and has released several solo albums.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail16.html|watch "band names"]]
*[[HR:sbemail16.swf|view the Flash file for "band names"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]
[[Category:Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Everybody to the Limit

Uglinessman — Tue, 09 May 2006 21:28:24 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Remarks */ dingbat

{{abouttoon}} {{forsong|Everybody to the Limit (Live)}} {{for|karaoke video|Fhqwhgads (karaoke)}}

{{watchtoon|fhqwhgads}}

[[Image:everybody_to_the_limit.png|200px|thumb|"Everybody come on fhqwhgads!"]]

The Cheat's [[Powered by The Cheat]] music video for Strong Bad's song about [[Fhqwhgads]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Visor Robot]], [[Atari Dragon]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Cheat's Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' July 1, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:54

'''Page Title:''' Everybody to the Limit

== Lyrics ==
'''VISOR ROBOT:''' Come on, Fhqwhgads.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Everybody to the limit 
Everybody to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

I said come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Everybody to the limit 
Who's that? It's to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

Come on Fhqwhgads 
I see you jockin' me 
Tryin' to play like 
You know me

I'm like come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Everybody to the limit 
The Cheat is to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

I said ooh ah Fhqwhgads 
I said ooh ah Fhqwhgads 
Who's that fh-huh-hoo-huga-wha 
I said who is that Fhqwhgads

I don't know who it is 
But it probably is Fhqwhgads 
I asked my friend Joe 
I asked my friend Jake 
They said it was Fhqwhgads

I said come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Who's-a to the limit? 
Say me! I'm to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

Man, Fhqwhgads 
You're just making yourself look worse, y'know 
I mean, everybody's just gonna feel sorry for ya 
I mean, I do.

''{Zooms out to reveal Strong Bad and The Cheat watching the video on Tangerine Dreams.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{talking to The Cheat}'' Now that's what I'm talkin' about! That was amazing! I mean you—... I—... I can't b—... Chi-g-d-b ... He—g ... I'm buyin' you a pizza!

== Fun Facts ==
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===Explanations===
*Fhqwhgads originated in the Strong Bad Email [[i love you]].

===Trivia===
*A "[[Everybody to the Limit (Live)|Live from West Reykjavik]]" version of this song can be found on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
*Clicking the Back button at the end of the video will always take you to [[Main Page 15]], The Cheat's main page.
*On April 12, 2006, this was the first non-[[Strong Bad Email]] or [[Teen Girl Squad]] cartoon to be added to [[Podstar Runner]].

===Remarks===
*This is the only time so far that Strong Bad has left outright positive feedback for a Powered by The Cheat cartoon.
*On the MP3 version, The Robot's laser doesn't play.
* The word "on" appears as two stars when Strong Bad raps "I said come on, Fhqwhgads!" for the fourth time. This is most likely because The Brothers Chaps used a font of symbols. Symbol fonts (also known as [[Wikipedia:Dingbat|dingbat fonts]])are quite popular on the Internet, using stars, flames and even characters from animated shows or video games as opposed to text.

===Goofs===
*When the toon is loading, the Visor Robot's shoulder is missing, but after the loading is completed, it suddenly appears.
*Even after the Visor Robot's lasers stop, the laser sound is still made.

===Inside References===
*For a split second, as the Robot's head opens to reveal Strong Bad, the words "come on" are replaced on screen by the word "[[LEMKE|lemke]]."
*When Strong Bad comes out of the robot, he is holding a [[Big Knife]].
*When the multiple CDs fly across the screen, a roll of [[Duct Tape]] is also visible.
*This is another mention of [[Pizza]].
*The Abraham Lincoln heads are from an Easter egg in [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]].

===Real-World References===
*The beat and bassline to the song itself bears a strong resemblance to The Meat Beat Manifesto's "God O.D." from their album, "Storm the Studio" (which also has the voice of William S. Burroughs repeating the same phrase on a sample)
*The red and white "enjoy fhqwhgads" ad on the billboard is based on [[Wikipedia:Coca-Cola|Coca-Cola]], who used the slogan "Enjoy Coke."
*The lyric "I asked my friend Joe, I asked my friend Jake" is accompanied by portraits of brothers [[Wikipedia:John F. Kennedy|John F. Kennedy]] and [[Wikipedia:Robert F. Kennedy|Robert F. Kennedy]].
*The yellow and white, [[Ducks|duck]]-looking things are [[Atari Dragon|Atari Dragons]] from the old [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]] game [[Wikipedia:Adventure (Atari 2600)|Adventure]].
*During one of the times the screen is flashing, a profile view of a head can be easily noticed. The head is that of [[Wikipedia:Abraham Lincoln|Abraham Lincoln]].
*The Visor Robot's voice is [[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Macintosh's]] Zarvox.
*The beat The Cheat uses (minus the handclap) is a sample from James Brown's "Funky Drummer", the basis for countless raps. The "Woo!" sample is mostly likely a reference to Rob Base's hit "It Takes Two", which used the infamous "yeah/woo" loop from "Think (About It)", another oft-sampled James Brown classic.
*The drums The Cheat plays are modeled after Simmons [[Wikipedia:Electronic drum#Early Electronic Drums|electronic drums]], whose distinctive hexagonal shape became mildly iconic in the 1980s.

===Fast Forward===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[your friends]], [[Strong Bad]] hits [[Bubs]] and the [[King of Town]] over the head with a [[Wikipedia:Gold album|Gold Record]] (such as are awarded when an album or single sells 500,000 copies) titled "Everybody To The Limit".
*In the email [[sibbie]], Sibbie asked why Strong Bad wrote a song about Fhqwhgads, and demanded his/her own song.
* The scene where [[Strong Bad]] is sitting in the armchair with the glass of wine is used in the SB email [[rock opera]] when Strong Bad says "Ooh, I'm pleasant", although there he is in the [[Smoky Office]].
*The milk carton appears again in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]] and [[kind of cool]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===

('''Commentary by:''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, it's Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, hey, holy crap, right?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh- I'm gonna kick you out of this room, this tiny room we're in...

'''MIKE:''' Oh, right, say it. Let me- let me hear you say it. Come on-

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, let's talk about this sweet video that The Cheat made.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously with previous line}'' I like your shades, right there.

'''STRONG BAD:''' This was a milestone in The Cheat's Flash animating career, I think.

'''MIKE:''' This was the second, uh, thing he made, wasn't it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' After the- his own theme song.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That, that travesty that was The Cheat Theme Song. But the song was okay, thanks to The Skate Partay.

'''MIKE:''' So how much, uh, how much did you have to say about this, in terms of, uh, what did you contribute to the video?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, everything. That was my wiffle ball, that was my duct tape, that was my CD...

'''MIKE:''' Oh, so all of the- the JPEG pictures were yours?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously with previous line}'' Look, I was riding the L train, back out to Brooklyn.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''STRONG BAD:''' At that time, yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Okay.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Reading- reading the new, the new James L. Took novel.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, it's one of my favorite... authors.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, yeah. That's not true.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, look out for that big wiffle ball!

'''MIKE:''' Why is your wiffle ball eating you?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, that was The Cheat, he was-

'''MIKE:''' Who- who was that, by the way? The guy with the bag over his head?

'''STRONG BAD:''' That was-

'''MIKE:''' Was that the Unknown Comic?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I think it was. From the Gong Show? ''{Mike laughs}'' Oh, the Bobbys and the Jakeys. ''{pause}'' Man, this - I'm surprised I haven't been sued from people going into convulsions from watching some of these Cheat videos. They're-

'''MIKE:''' They do have some flashing images.

'''STRONG BAD:''' They're flashy. For sure. Lookit, oh- ''{unintelligible}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{unintelligible}'' Don't swallow your tongue!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sorry, that was insensitive.

'''MIKE:''' I was always very afraid of swallowing my tongue when I was younger, that was one of my-

'''STRONG BAD:''' It was in, like, Airport 76 or something.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, was it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Freaked us out.

'''MIKE:''' I think I saw it on Real People with John Davison.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohhh.

'''MIKE:''' Or maybe That's Incredible.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's in- that's real...

'''MIKE:''' ''{unintelligible}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I always said chiggidi-buh. Now... nowadays.

===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:The Gong Show|The Gong Show]] was a comedic television show in the late 70s; one recurring feature was the Unknown Comic, who wore a paper bag over his head.
*The mention of convulsions from flashing images is a reference to the phenomenon of [[Wikipedia:Photosensitive epilepsy|photosensitive seizures]], and in particular the [[Wikipedia:Banned episodes of Pokémon#Electric Soldier Porygon/"Dennou Senshi Porigon"|1997 incident]] in which hundreds of Japanese children reported such seizures after watching a Pokémon episode including rapidly flashing colored frames.
*''[[Wikipedia:Real People|Real People]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:That's Incredible!|That's Incredible]]'' were both reality television shows in the early 80s that interviewed "ordinary" people. ''That's Incredible!'' emphasized paranormal or remarkable phenomena.

== See Also ==
*The [[Everybody to the Limit Visuals|visuals]] that occur during the film.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:fhqwhgads.html|watch "Everybody to the Limit"]]
*[[HR:fhqwhgads.swf|view the Flash file for "Everybody to the Limit"]]
*[[HR:fhqwhgads.zip|download the song "Everybody to the Limit" for PC]]
*[[HR:fhqwhgads.sit|download the song "Everybody to the Limit" for Mac]]
*[[Podstar:Everybody_to_the_Limit.m4v|download "Everybody to the Limit" for the iPod]] (see [[Podstar Runner]])
*[http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Everybody_To_The_Limit This Might Be A Wiki:Everybody To The Limit]
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Talk:senior prom

Uglinessman — Sun, 07 May 2006 18:06:32 GMT

Uglinessman: /* The poopsmith speaketh!? */

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])<noinclude>[[Category:Internal link templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Can we stop the edit war and discuss captions here? Thanks so much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please, let's do so. Now, the person who has been removing the quote has argued that it shouldn't be there because Marzipan, who says the quote, is not in the picture. I don't find this argument convincing. I don't think a quote has to line up ''exactly'' with the image as long as its connection with the image is clear. And here, I think the connection is indeed clear: what happens in the image ''is'' what happens every year. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

senior prom

Uglinessman — Sun, 07 May 2006 11:00:03 GMT

Uglinessman: /* Explanations */

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[[Image:Senior prom.PNG|thumb|"Every freakin' year."]]

<s>The King of Town gets his very own quite popular cartoon show!</s> Strong Bad crashes a senior prom, only to have it backfire on him.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film |Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, [[The Knight|Knight]], [[The Hornblower|Hornblower]], [[The Blacksmith]], {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film |Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[Nebulon]], [[The Moon]], {{Film|The Announcer}} (voice only), {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Stage]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' May 3, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:17

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

''{Open to a shiny red background. A King of Town emblem appears on the screen. As the singers sing, the words "Very Own Popular Cartoon" appear below the KOT head. The KOT head moves to the music a little.}''

'''SINGERS:''' The King of Town's very own quite popular cartoon show!

''{The words "The King of Town's" appear above the KOT emblem.}''

'''SINGERS:''' The King of Town's very own quite popular cartoon show!

''{The word "Quite" is written between "Own" and "Popular", and "Show!!" is inserted after "Cartoon". The music stops.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Let the King have some!

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ''{quick voiceover as the screen darkens}'' The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week. Instead we bring you: Strong Bad's very popular cartoon show, already in progress.

''{Cut to the Lappy with the email already displayed. We join the scene as Strong Bad says "rong Bad..."}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: prom</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
I was wondering did you ever have a senior prom. 
If so, what was it like? 
Matt M. WA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "walrus association" for WA.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, man! Would you Walrus Association people please leave me alone? I will pay my dues when you send me my tusks! ''{clears screen}'' Anyways, I have personally never had a senior prom, Matt. I have, however, ''crashed'' my fair share of Senior Proms, Senor Proms, Homecoming Dances, Shortcoming Prances, and Off-Site Team-Building Pottery Classes. But the best Senior Prom I ever crashed was the 'Entrapment All Up On the Moon' Dance. It all started one day, when I received some very disappointing news...

''{Cuts to the Floppy Disk Container side of the computer desk with Strong Mad and The Cheat. A cassette tape sits on top of a [[Clock Radio|clock radio]]. The message 'an answering machine (trust me)' is taped to the clock radio, keeping the hour number open as if it was the message counter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{feigning disappointment}'' Oh man you guys... I'm totally bummed. Listen to this message I just got...

''{Cut to a closeup of the clock radio. Strong Bad is partially visible on the left, holding one of his boxing gloves up to his mouth and looking away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a high-pitched voice}'' Hey.. Bunmuffin... It's Deli..lelia. They need me to go back up to Mars to help out that robot that got stuck in the sand. So I won't be able to go to the dance with you.

''{Cut back to the group shot. Strong Mad and The Cheat look annoyed, and The Cheat's arms are folded.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still in fake voice}'' I left you some cold meatloaf under the fridge. ''{voice returns to normal, but he continues to feign disappointment}'' Ooh..

''{Cut to close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{feigning disappointment}'' That little robot stuck in the sand ''again!'' I guess I don't have a date for the dance.

''{Cut back to group shot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{speaking normally}'' Oh well... Looks like you two losers ''{Strong Mad looks shocked and then angry}'' and me one cool guy will just have to crash the ever-loving style out of it! Now listen close to my master-dly plan!

''{Fade to black, then cut to and zoom in on [[All the King's Men|All the King's Men]]'s bass drum, then fade to the band on stage. Cut to a banner reading "Entrapment All Up On the Moon", then pan down to Homestar and Marzipan dancing on the gym floor. Homestar is wearing a tuxedo and a black propeller cap, and Marzipan is wearing a red formal dress.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh... Don't look now Marzipan, but I think we're the hottest couple at the prom.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, as always, we're the only couple at the prom.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But what about Strong Sad and Deborah?

'''MARZIPAN:''' That is unmistakably Coach Z.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Who?

''{Cut to the drink table where Coach Z is pouring Listerine into the punch. Coach Z is wearing a [[Wikipedia:Dickie|dickie]] and bow tie and Strong Sad is wearing a space suit.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z... You oughta be ashamed of yourself.

''{Coach Z fumbles and drops the Listerine.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' You're supposed to be our chaperon! ''{says with a French accent while waving his hand}''

'''COACH Z:''' Are you kiddin'!? I'm just lookin' out for all yer hygienes. Have ya ever talked to one of these kids up close!? Their breath is ''terberile''!

''{Someone turns off the light, plunging the scene into pitch darkness. There is a thud sound and a record scratch. Everyone at the prom gasps.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey! Watch those hands David Coppafeel!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, David!

''{The lights turn back on, revealing Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad in the center separating Homestar Runner and Marzipan. Homestar continues to dance while Strong Bad speaks.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right, senior citizens! This prom is officially crashed! Now peep my masterdly plan! I rigged up this button—

''{Cuts to a close up of Strong Bad's hand, which is holding a remote control with a big red button labeled "GO!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —so that when I mash go on it, everybody's pants will POOF AWAY! It's a mass pantsing, see?

''{He presses the button and a buzzer sounds.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What!?

''{With dramatic music, the scene quickly cuts to the pants area of Marzipan, then Coach Z, and then really quickly Homestar Runner, Strong Sad, The Poopsmith, The Blacksmith, The Knight, Strong Mad, The Cheat, before finally stopping on Strong Bad. The camera scrolls up from Strong Bad's pants to his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be kiddin' me!? I'm the only one that wears any pants?

''{Strong Bad's pants poof away, showing white boxers with lipstick kisses on them.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And now to announce your Prom King and Queen! This year's Prom King is... Pom Pom ''{applause}''

''{Cut to an area of the gymnasium that features the banner and cut-out forms of Nebulon and The Moon.}''

'''VOICEOVER:''' ''{spoken words appear onscreen}'' Accepting the award for Pom Pom is Homestar Runner because Pom Pom's at a much cooler private school prom.

''{Homestar walks out wearing a crown and then takes a swig of Listerine and starts gargling, sounding exactly like Pom Pom.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And your Prom Queen is... ''{cut to an excited Marzipan}'' Strong Bad with no pants on! ''{applause}''

''{Cut back to Homestar. Pant-less Strong Bad walks in from the left wearing a tiara and holding seven roses.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh thank you so much! ''{applause}'' You people are a sweet delight! Just one big almond paste filled sweet delight!

''{Homestar leans forward, kicking his foot backwards. Cut back to an angry Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Every freakin' year. ''{blows one of her bangs out of her face}''

'''VOICE FROM OFFSCREEN:''' Ohhhh, yeah!

''{Marzipan looks surprised, it then cuts to the rest of the gym, who all gasp. Then it cuts to The Poopsmith who shakes his head and shrugs his shoulders. Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And the best part is that I got a twenty dollar gift certificate to the All-You-Can-Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria. Man, I ate my weight in creamed fish and okratinis. Alright, I gotta get outta here. I'm taking Delilelia to see David Coppafeel perform. ''{gets up and leaves}''

''{Cut to a shot of the whole computer desk with Strong Bad standing to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hurk! ''{jumps offscreen}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on WA when Strong Bad says "Walrus Association" to see a business card for the Walrus Association:
<blockquote>Matt M. 
Walrus Association 
 
Phone: 555-TUSQ 
Mobile: GIMME A WEEK OR SO 
 
"Koo koo ka-choo or summat"</blockquote>
[[Image:Senor Prom '95.PNG|thumb|Senor Prom '95]]
*Click on "senor prom" to see a photo of an ice sculpture of [[Senor Cardgage]] slowly melting a bit on a sheet of paper. It has "Senor Prom '95" autographed on it.
*At the end, click on "Delilelia" to see the actual beginning of the email.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing''} Can you see that I've got email styles, c'mon c'mon, can you see that I've got email styles? Dear St—
*Click on "Coppafeel" at the end to see a conversation with Homestar Runner and Pom Pom.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, man. My pants got so poofed away at the prom this year. ''{Pom Pom looks annoyed}'' So I was wearing all these types of long pants, and they just got poofed away. So embarrassing.
:'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well maybe I ''will'' keep telling myself that!

==Fun Facts==
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===Explanations===

*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].

===Trivia===
[[Image:kotvoqpcs.png|The King of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show|thumb|right]]
*The filename for the SWF file is the expected "sbemail151", but the HTML file is "kotpoptoon".
**The email was announced on the main page as a new toon as a prank; when it was released the message button read "king of town toon!"
*The label on the disk in the Floppy Disk Container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#broderbund classics|broder bund classics]]".
*This is the first time The Blacksmith has appeared in any Homestar Runner cartoon since his debut in [[The King of Town DVD]] six years ago.
*This is the first appearance of the Strong Sadstronaut, previously seen only in the weekly [[Sketchbook]].

===Remarks===

*Strong Bad is wearing boxer shorts when his pants poof off. However, in [[New Boots]], he claims he doesn't wear "[[Underwear|underwears]]."
*Since an okratini is a drink, Strong Bad could not have ''eaten'' his weight in them, unless he consumed the okra pods.
*When Strong Bad addresses the audience and compares them to an almond-paste-filled sweet delight, he is describing the real confection of [[Wikipedia:Marzipan|marzipan]].
*Although it was stated in [[highschool]] that all the characters looked different in high school, all the characters appear as they would normally. This may be due to Strong Bad's "doodle memory", though it may also be, considering their ages are neither implied nor stated, that they are still "in" high school.
* "The King of Town's Popular Cartoon Show" is another case of the King of Town trying to appear cool and popular.
* In this email, Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad's Ladies|imaginary girlfriend's]] name is spelled "Delilelia". However, in the following [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-05-04|Quote of the Week]], it was spelled "Delelilia".

===Goofs===
*When Homestar keeps his eyes shut while standing next to de-pantsed Strong Bad, his regular pair of blinking eyes appears every few seconds beneath his already closed lids.
*As Homestar dances, his left foot continually changes shading, from a darker gray to a lighter gray.

===Inside References===

*The lipstick pattern on Strong Bad's shorts is the same as the one in [[video games]].
*"Senor proms" is a reference to the common [[Senor|mispronunciation]] of Señor, and is further highlighted by the Senor Cardgage Easter egg.
*Coach Z was previously seen drinking Listerine in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].
**In this email, he makes a [[Concoctions|concoction]] by spiking the punch with Listerine.
*The Moon on the banner first appeared in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].
*The fictitious message from Delilelia would seem to explain why the formerly unnamed girl left Strong Bad, as mentioned in his [[autobiography]].
*This email makes some references to [[Robots|robots]].
*This email makes references both [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants|pants]] in general.
*This is another instance of [[Mashing Go|Mashing Go/Play]].
*The name of the dance is "Entrapment [[All up ons|All Up On]] the Moon".
*While it isn't certain that "Ohhh Yeah" was spoken by The Poopsmith, the same voice was used in [[different town]] to demonstrate what he would sound like.

===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield]] is a popular illusionist.
*The "Entrapment All Up On the Moon" dance and the outfits worn by the band are references to the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Dance from the [[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]] movie trilogy.
*The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" on the business card in the Easter egg refers to the song [[Wikipedia:I Am the Walrus|I Am the Walrus]] by [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]]. This is a common [[Wikipedia:mondegreen|mondegreen]]. The actual phrase from the song is "Goo Goo G'Joob".
*"Summat" is regional English slang for "something."
*An "[http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0308c&L=ads-l&D=1&F=&S=&P=6102 okratini]" is a martini served with a pickled [[Wikipedia:Okra|okra]] pod instead of an olive.
*[[Wikipedia:Listerine|Listerine]] is an antiseptic mouthwash that contains alcohol.
*The "robot on Mars that got stuck in the sand again" is a reference to the Mars Exploration Rover [http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotlight/20051212.html Opportunity], which got stuck in a sand ripple on April 26, 2005.
*[[All the King's Men!]] is a reference to the nursery rhyme [[Wikipedia:Humpty Dumpty|Humpty Dumpty]] and likely to the band [[Wikipedia:The Kingsmen|The Kingsmen]] as well.


==External Links==

*[[HR:kotpoptoon.html|watch "senior prom"]]
*[[HR:sbemail151.swf|view the Flash file for "senior prom"]]
*[[Forum:8142|forum thread re: "senior prom"]]

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