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Talk:Disco Tech

Geshmalderborgen — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:37:19 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Holy Coincidence, Batman! */

== Needed? ==
I do not feel this article is needed. It has only been mentioned three times and we know very little about it. In fact, it may not even exist anymore, seeing as it hasn't actually appeared on the site (yet). We don't even have a good picture of Bubs in the hoodie. I'm leaning towards a '''deletion''' due to lack of content at this time. A mention in the Fast Forward/Inside References sections on the relevant sections will suffice until it reappears in a later email, which may or may not happen. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think this article should be '''kept'''. If it had only appeared in the 2001 features, then I would say that it was more or less a throwaway joke and not really notable for its own page. But given that TBC brought it back in 2008 (and even made a swee-atshirt for Bubs), I consider it a real place in the H*R universe and well worthy of its own page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::I agree with Trey56; it's definitely a real place. '''Keep.''' {{User:Peter222/sig}}
:::Even if it is a real place in the H*R universe, what content can be added to this article? All we know is that Bubs attends night classes there and that he has a hoodie. Is that enough for Disco Tech to merit its own article? Personally, I'm not sure. I feel that this information is summed up perfectly on the [[Yearbook Character Page]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Significance is more the issue than length; it's pretty common for topics to be significant enough to the H*R body of work to have their own page, and yet there's not that much to say about them (examples of places: [[The Junkyard]], [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]]; other examples: [[Kidelectrix]], [[The Guys]]). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::From [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines]]: "Page content relating to a H*R-specific item or location: Needs only one appearance in Homestar Runner toons, as long as it played an important role in the plot." I think Disco Tech was important enough to the various cartoons it was in (i.e. not just seen in the background and never mentioned) to merit an article. '''Keep'''. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 13:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::If this is the case, then I will no longer oppose the inclusion of this article. However, I would prefer that a better image of Bubs in his hoodie is uploaded (one without Coach Z's arm in the way, or with the arms slightly cropped off). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Okay, I've improved the image a bit (no more green men's arms in the picture). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Holy Coincidence, Batman! ==

So I was watching ''[[Batman]]'' last week (starring the legendary Adam West, Burt Ward and Cesar Romero), and it was the second episode of the story arc when The Joker goes to the local high school and rigs the vending machines ("[[Wikipedia:He Meets His Match, The Grisly Ghoul|''He Meets His Match, The Grisly Ghoul'']]"). During this episode, The Joker places a bet on the school's basketball team's rivals, who happen to be called... Disco Tech. Coincidence? Or perhaps a quiet homage by TBC to one of their favourite TV programmes? Bear in mind that the [[No Loafing Sign]] is a reference to a similar sign seen during the previous episode, "[[Wikipedia:The Joker Goes to School|''The Joker Goes to School'']]". {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:I just saw that. Probably not a coincidence, but according to Google, the name "Disco Tech" is not uncommon.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 02:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Eh! Steve!

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:55:21 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Breakout?

{{featuredarticle}}
==Eh! Steve vs. Eh! Steve!==
This has been moved back and forth from Eh! Steve to Eh! Steve! now. I'm inclined to move it back to Eh! Steve! because that's how it's written in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]: "Meet Eh! Steve!'s lawyer!" {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:12, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: Ah, but in the icons downloadable from [[crazy cartoon]], it's Eh! Steve, no second exclamation point. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: And let's not forget the Easter egg in [[kids' book]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:20, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::I was just waiting for someone to come up with counterexamples ;) I guess two against one is convincing enough for me... Although Pay Plus! is more recent, so if we see something else with the ending exclamation point, we might want to consider moving it back. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:21, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know whether this means anything, but the caption under Eh, Steven in [[different town]] has a period after the name and inside the quotation marks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Also, in [[what I want]], his ornament's an "Eh! Steve!" soiled gold ornament. I'm all for 2 exclammy points. - Th' Duck
Seeing as the ! after "Eh" is undisputed, let's see about Steve...

Eh! Steve -
1. Buddy Icons
2. [[kid's book]] easter egg

Eh! Steve! -
1. [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] - when his mouth exploded the universe, the text is shown, although this may just be how he speaks it.
2. [[different town]] - Eh, Steven. (there's a period after Steven, implying punctuation after Steve.
3. [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!|Pay Plus]] - It's Eh! Steve!'s lawyer
4. [[Weclome Back]] - It's "Eh, Steve!" but it's still "Steve!"
5. [[what I want]] - Eh! Steve! ornament

It's one versus 5. I'ma move to Eh! Steve! - [[User:Dr. Clash|Dr. Clash]] 01:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

==Haircut Appearance?==
Before I throw it in his filmography, I throw it here. In [[haircut]], when Strong Bad makes his "Prime Time" version of Strong Mad's hair, he draws a tiny Eh! Steve. Now, realizing it's not ''actually'' Eh!Steve, and that even Strong Bad says "Eh!Greg", is there any way this qualifies? [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|The Smoking Monkey]] 11:09, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I think it counts. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 13:19, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Works for me! [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|The Smoking Monkey]] 13:49, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I think it counts. I would count different town as an appearance, too, if you asked me. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== Eh!Steve/Eh Steve!/Eh!Steve! ==

How many different I dentites for Eh!Steve are there? I remember these ones-

Eh!Steve

Eh Steve!

Eh!Steve!

Eh!Steven

Steven-Teen Girl Squad
There has to be more than this.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 21:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Eh! Steve reference to happy days? ==
: Does anyone think Eh steve saying "Eh steve!" is a reference to Fonzi's catchphrase "Ehhhh!"

== Quite certain it's SOLID ==

In the listing of the solid gold ornament, somehwone keeps changing solid back to soiled after I edit it. It is SOLID, Right?

:No, it's actually soiled. Check what it says in the sidebar on the toon. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

== Seinfeld? ==

Eh! Steve! might be a joke in reference to the Seinfeld episode where Kramer staples people's pictures to the wall in the lobby. Jerry says hi to someone while looking for his picture and that person's name was Steve. Jerry ended up saying, "Hey...Steve!" --{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 14:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:Eh! Steve! could reference lots of things. So [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 14:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

== Eh! Steve will get what he deserves ==

Should [[kids' book]] be counted in Eh! Steve's filmography or would that be breaking that rule about not counting pictures of people as actual appearances? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Italian accent? ==

Eh! Steve! only says one thing, if at all. And I'm pretty sure it's said in an Italian accent. I guess it could be Greek, due to the patterns on his quadrangle... those seem like Greek motifs to me. Didn't Strong Bad talk about his shape once? Or was it just "Eh! Steve! isn't really a person?" ---Ransom (--[[User:69.105.84.54|69.105.84.54]] 04:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC))
:Definitely Italian, like Arthur Fonzarelli ("Ayyy, Richie!"), but that ''is'' a Greek pattern. However, remember the ancient Romans annexed Greece and occasionally borrowed their culture (i.e. Greek deities). {{User:Zoom/sig}} 05:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::Doesn't sound even vaguely Italian to me. Nor did Arthur Fonzarelli have anything Italian about his accent. -- jjcote [[Special:Contributions/71.124.150.164|71.124.150.164]] 03:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wedding Planner ==

I'm almost 100% positive that Eh! Steve is a quote from the movie the Wedding Planner, with J-Lo and Matthew McCaughnehey (sp?). There is a character that comes from Italy wanting to be J-Lo's fiance, and he greets McCaughnehey's character (named Steve) like this. The tonation, accent, and voice quality is pretty exact. The scene is later in the movie when they are in Sonoma. --augusthead (15:09 18-OCT-2007)

:Interesting — do you (and does anybody else) have the DVD to check? Also, welcome to the wiki! Also also, you can sign and timestamp your posts by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), like this: {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks for the help. I re-watched the movie to see if I could find the quote, and it wasn't in the Sonoma part, but instead toward the end at City Hall. My DVD player had it at 1hr 35min into the movie. Steve gets out of a taxi and Massimo (the guy who wanted to be J-Lo's fiance) says his name a few times to call him over. It's not as exact as I thought, but there is a verrry strong resemblance in the way Massimo says "Steve" to the "Eh Steve" in HR. He actually says "Hey Steve" but it's really really close. If anyone on here gets the movie, watch and see what you think. -- [[User:Augusthead|Augusthead]] 17:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Cool, thanks for checking. Not having the DVD, it sounds like it's a coincidence, but maybe somebody else can check and see what they think... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sighting in Amazon store ==

I find it funny:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Counting-Sheep-nursery-single-bedding/dp/B0014DRH3K/ref=sr_1_143?ie=UTF8&s=baby&qid=1206563748&sr=1-143

(the referrer link embedded is from the iheartmiro, not that I'd expect anyone to actually buy anything through that link)

Where is he? I don't see it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 20:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

yeah i'm not seeing this either [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 04:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:This seems like spam to me... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

== Blues clues? ==

Eh Steve might be a reference to the former host of Blues Clues, Steve, who left to show for some reasons. Eh Greg! Might be a reference to the new host that replaced him, even though his name isn't greg.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 00:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:umm... if the only connection you have is one name, where the second one doesn't match, then why do you think it's a reference? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

== Has he said anything besides "Eh! Steve!"? ==

Exactly what the title says. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 03:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. But in [[haircut]], Strong Bad imitates Eh! Steve! but says "Eh! Greg!" instead. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 04:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
==Breakout Star?==
Can Eh! Steve! really be called a breakout star? He seemed more popular than Sherlock from the get-go. After all, he was the one featured in The Cheat's Crazy Cartoon. I think that he was always meant to be the main character.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 19:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:37:47 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Undid revision, where I accidentally redid the revision I was trying to undue.

{{sbenav|148}}
[[Image:Sbemail148.PNG|thumb|Twice the ruckus-raising productivity]]

Strong Bad's head disconnects from his body.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Head Bad and Strong Body]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[The Island]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Race Track]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 13, 2006

'''Running time:''' 3:11

'''Page title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' This week, I'm feeling my style! I've got confidence in my email!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: sb!!!!</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
If your head got disconnected and your head was rolling 
all over the place and you didn't even know were your 
body is or your head, what would you do? 
Jenny
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad struggles to read everything between "were" and the final "head". He also sings Jenny's name, as follows:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Jennyyy... ''{high-pitched}'' Jenny! ''{speaking normally, typing}'' Um, was ''your'' head connected to ''your'' body when you wrote this email? I think I get the gist of it. ''{clears the screen}'' While my head and body are normally the bosomest ''{pronounced boosomest}'' of buddies, I suppose I could double my productivity if they were separated. Like, I could raise that ruckus I've been planning in two days instead of four! The plausibilities are endless!

''{Cut to The Field, where Strong Bad's disembodied head is speaking to Homestar Runner. A sign reads "THE CAREER ADVISOR IS REAL IN" with "REAL" being a separate removable word.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' My head could be off giving folks career advice...

''{The scene pans over and darkens, while a second scene appears on the left with a split down the middle of the screen. The scene on the left shows Strong Bad's headless body next to a box of "riot rocks", near the King of Town's castle. He is throwing the rocks at the King of Town and The Poopsmith, who is wearing [[whatsit]]-covered armor and blocking the rocks with a shield that has the King's face on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...whilst my body is rioting against the municipality!

''{The body's scene darkens while the head's scene brightens.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' Maybe this running business just isn't for you. Have you ever considered the making and selling of tiny breads?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Homestar Bunmaker, eh? Me likey, me likey! Thanks, Eggman! ''{turns away, but then turns back}'' Oh, and... ''{throws coins}'' why don't you get yourself something to eat? Put some meat on them bones, girl!

''{Homestar walks off. The bar dividing the two scenes slides off to the left, resulting in a single scene. The camera pans right to reveal the same rock-throwing scene just to the right of Strong Bad's head. His head turns toward his body.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' That's some nice revolutin', there, body, but, uh, maybe we should spread out. Like, more.

''{The body gives the head a thumbs-up. Cut to a closeup of Strong Bad's head on a beach. His head is sitting on a picnic blanket, resting against a palm tree, wearing a pair of sunglasses. There is a drink with three umbrellas in front of him. A seagull can be heard in the background. The camera zooms out slowly.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' Ah, livin' the sleazy life.

''{The camera cuts back to show that Strong Bad's head is actually alone on a small island.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' ''{turning back}'' Hey, cabana boy! My drink needs more umbrellas! What kind of deserted island is this, anyway?

''{Cut to Club Technochocolate, where Strong Bad's body is dancing with Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Meanwhile, my body could be off putting its considerably reduced weight on it down at the cloughb!

'''BUBS:''' Dang, Strong Body! Without all that extra head ballast, your moves are twicely fresh! Twicely fresh!

''{Cut to an image of Strong Bad's head rolling across The Field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' My head would probably get pretty dizzy just rollin' around all the time. I might have to rig up some kind of repulsorlifts!

''{The camera cuts back, and the head begins to hover through a disc on the bottom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Naw, scratch that. I'm gonna need something with a little more... muscle.

''{The disc disappears and is replaced by flaming exhaust pipes on the top of its head. Motorcycle sounds are heard.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' Oh, yeah! That's what I'm talkin' about! ''{leans back, as though revving up}'' Reer! Reeeeer! ''{starts zipping back and forth across the scene quickly}'' Rooow! Rooow! Rooo! Reer! ''{imitating brakes as it stops}'' Reeeeee! Whoa! This mess rules! I can finally win the million-yard dash! ''{zips forward again}'' Roooo...

''{Cut to a finish line, which the head zips through quickly. Then cut to the other side, where Coach Z is holding a stopwatch.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' ''{imitating brakes}'' Reeeee! Oh, yes! I beat Homestar!

'''COACH Z:''' Sorry, Head Bad, but you was the only one competin' this year! Old 'Strammy's gone and quit the runnin' business!

''{Homestar jumps up behind Strong Bad's head, wearing a new hat that reads "BUNMAKER" and holding a box of "TINY BREADS".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cooornbreeeeead! I got cornbread here! Dinner rolls! Cornbread! Everybody wants a bun! Lemme hear that dinner roll!

''{Cut to a blank white screen. Strong Bad's body walks on from stage right, while the unaltered head rolls on from stage left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Maybe one day, we'd both learn to regenerate...

''{The head gains an arm, a green leg, a spirally arm, and an extremely thin robotic-looking leg. The body gains an odd growth colored to look like Strong Bad's head in its chest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...creating two perfectly-formed Strong Bad specimens!

'''STRONG BODY:''' ''{in a whiny voice that sounds nothing like Strong Bad}'' I would like to go to the store.

'''HEAD BAD:''' ''{in a scratchy voice followed by laughing that also sounds nothing like Strong Bad}'' ''{unintelligible}'' [[#Footnote|[1]]] 

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Eeeugh! Go away, head-nub and nub-head. Those things look straight out of the creature shop from some low-to-no budget horror film. Maybe chopping my head off isn't such a good idea.

''{Cut back to show The Cheat standing next to a guillotine near the computer.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes dejected The Cheat noises, walks off}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy's screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, time to go satisfy my sudden craving for tiny breads. ''{gets up}'' Hope I can find my local bunman...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

===Footnote===

#This line could be "I like your shoes", "I hate your shoes", "I think you're shoes", "I think you're cute", "I think you're stupid", or the word salad "I ate your shoes".

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:sbemail Deodorant.png|thumb|Soccer scent.]]
[[Image:Disconnected Easter egg.PNG|thumb|We're onto you.]]
*At the very beginning, click "strongbad_email.exe" to see sbemail Deodorant. Pictures show:
<blockquote>
sbemail 
Deodorant 
Soccer Scent 
 
"I'm feeling my style... 
I've got confidence in my email!"
</blockquote>

*At the end, click on "horror film" to see a movie poster for "Regenerator 4".
<blockquote>
A Low-To-No Budget Horror Film 
 
REGENERATOR 4 
OR: FOUR MORE REGENERATORS 
 
With Special Make-up Effects by 
TOLD SALLIAVER[[Lowercase i's|i]]</blockquote>

*Click on "good idea" to see a propaganda poster of The Poopsmith Stormtroopers.
<blockquote>
SUPPORT THE MUNICIPALITY! 
 
WE'RE ONTO YOU.</blockquote>

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*[[Wikipedia:Ballast tanks|Ballast]] is a material (such as water) used in a ballast tank to add mass to an object, usually to improve stability.

===Trivia===

*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#below the root|below the root]]".
*One million yards is approximately 568 miles. If Head Bad "dashed" at a constant 200 mph, his time for the race would be 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 27.273 seconds.
*This is the first email in which an Easter egg is found before the actual email is shown.
*When Head Bad is on the deserted island, he is wearing his [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] sunglasses.

===Remarks===

*Viewing the Flash file of this email on a web browser does not allow you to see outside of the frame by stretching the window, due to there being a large black area covering the area normally offscreen. If stretched far enough, there is, actually, an end to the black area.
*[[Wiktionary:plausible|Plausible]] means "seemingly believable", and a [[Wiktionary:plausibility|plausibility]] is anything that is plausible. Strong Bad's use of the word "plausibility" is incorrect; a more appropriate word would be "possibility".
*The Regenerator 4 Easter egg has an unexpected [[Lowercase i's|lowercase i]] in the same word as a capital I.
*In the DVD commentary for [[island]], [[Matt Chapman]] said that he and [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] planned to revisit the island scene in a later toon.
*When Head Bad finishes the 1 million yard dash, the running lanes are labeled 5, 6, 7. Lanes 1 through 4 are missing.
*"The Municipality" is a synonym of "town", as in the one over which the King rules.
*This is the first time the King of Town has shown any authority in Free Country USA.
*Homestar doesn't actually have any cornbread in his box of tiny breads.

===Goofs===

*When Head Bad gets the 'muscle' engine growing out of his head, his shadow on the ground never changes to match the engine.
*When Head Bad finishes the 1 million yard dash, the finish line tape is connected to a pole. In another shot there, the pole is gone, and the tape just sits on the ground.
*When Strong Body is "rioting against the municipality" a rock appears in his glove after each throw without him reaching into the box. Also, the rocks in the box don't seem to be disappearing.
*The Poopsmith's bat and Head Bad's sign should have been seen in the opposite scenes before the screen pans, seeing as both objects crossed the division between the screens.
*When Strong Bad is on the island, the lemon on the drinking glass appears to be directly connected to the glass, instead of being wedged into the edge.

===Inside References===

*[[Head Bad and Strong Body]] were first used on [[Main Page 7]].
*Coach Z calling Homestar "'Strammy" mirrors his mispronunciation "Stramstar" in [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*Strong Bad's pronunciation of "club" also occurred in [[extra plug]].
*The exhaust pipes on Strong Bad's head are the same ones used on Bubs's pumpkin in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*Homestar becoming a bunmaker could be related to his obsession with [[bread]] in [[origins]].
*Bubs's dance in [[Club Technochocolate]] is the same one he did in [[geddup noise]].
*While Strong Body is dancing in Club Technochocolate, he slides on the ground while kneeling, a move that was also performed by Strong Bad at the end of his [[rock opera]].
*Strong Bad's head was first called an [[egg]] in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*A "cabana boy" was mentioned earlier in the [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams#DVD Transcript|DVD version of Tropical Lazor Beams]].

===Real-World References===

*Strong Bad's "career advisor" sign is similar to the "Psychiatric help" sign used by [[Wikipedia:Lucy van Pelt|Lucy van Pelt]] from the [[Peanuts]] comics. More specifically, it reads "The doctor is real in", with "real in" being the moveable part of the sign in ''[[Wikipedia:A Charlie Brown Christmas|A Charlie Brown Christmas]]''.
*The Repulsorlift is the technology used in the ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars]]'' universe to create lift for vehicles. It is most notably used on the various speeders, but it also works for spacecraft, such as the [[Wikipedia:X-wing|X-wing]]. It is supposedly based on the creation of artificial gravity "pockets" that act against the natural gravity of other objects.
*The phrase "put your weight on it" (in reference to dancing) comes from the Rudy Ray Moore movie ''The Disco Godfather,'' and is often regarded as the best thing about the movie. This phrase was used earlier in the email [[flashback]].
*"Lemme hear that dinner roll" is a reference to the lyrics of the 1994 song [[Wikipedia:Tootsie Roll (song)|"Tootsie Roll"]] by the band 69 Boyz.
*The exhaust pipes coming out of Head Bad could be referred to as a "[[Wikipedia:Manifold (automotive engineering)|header]]" in automotive engineering parlance.
*The "We're Onto You" poster could be a reference to the similar propaganda "Big Brother Is Watching You" from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Nineteen Eighty-Four|Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''.
*Bubs's repetition of the phrase "twicely fresh" is reminiscent of the Sesame Street character and host of Mysterious Theater Vincent Twice's repetition of his own name.
*"Regenerator 4" is possibly a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Re-Animator|Re-Animator]] series of horror films.
*"With Special Make-up Effects by TOLD SALLIAVERi" could be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Tom Savini|Tom Savini]], well-known special effects make-up man in many low-budget (as well as hit) movies, such as [[Wikipedia:Day of the Dead|Day of the Dead]] and the [[Wikipedia:Friday the 13th (series)|Friday the 13th]] series.
*Strong Bad's deserted island drink could be a [[Wikipedia:Tequila Sunrise (cocktail)|Tequila Sunrise]], judging by the scene's tropical theme and the drink's gradual color blend from yellow to dark orange.






===Fast Forward===
*The floppy disk reading "below the root" also appears in [[keep cool]].
*The Municipality is later referenced in [[more armies]].
*Strong Bad does the same dance moves at Club Technochocolate in [[nightlife]].
**The extended version of the music heard at Club Technochocolate would be heard in the aforementioned email.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==

{{sbemailextlinks|148|7364}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

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Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:34:59 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: True but the email was made before Nightlife. I think at this point Cloubgh is the standard pronounciation.

{{sbenav|148}}
[[Image:Sbemail148.PNG|thumb|Twice the ruckus-raising productivity]]

Strong Bad's head disconnects from his body.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Head Bad and Strong Body]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[The Island]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Race Track]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 13, 2006

'''Running time:''' 3:11

'''Page title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' This week, I'm feeling my style! I've got confidence in my email!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: sb!!!!</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
If your head got disconnected and your head was rolling 
all over the place and you didn't even know were your 
body is or your head, what would you do? 
Jenny
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad struggles to read everything between "were" and the final "head". He also sings Jenny's name, as follows:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Jennyyy... ''{high-pitched}'' Jenny! ''{speaking normally, typing}'' Um, was ''your'' head connected to ''your'' body when you wrote this email? I think I get the gist of it. ''{clears the screen}'' While my head and body are normally the bosomest ''{pronounced boosomest}'' of buddies, I suppose I could double my productivity if they were separated. Like, I could raise that ruckus I've been planning in two days instead of four! The plausibilities are endless!

''{Cut to The Field, where Strong Bad's disembodied head is speaking to Homestar Runner. A sign reads "THE CAREER ADVISOR IS REAL IN" with "REAL" being a separate removable word.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' My head could be off giving folks career advice...

''{The scene pans over and darkens, while a second scene appears on the left with a split down the middle of the screen. The scene on the left shows Strong Bad's headless body next to a box of "riot rocks", near the King of Town's castle. He is throwing the rocks at the King of Town and The Poopsmith, who is wearing [[whatsit]]-covered armor and blocking the rocks with a shield that has the King's face on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...whilst my body is rioting against the municipality!

''{The body's scene darkens while the head's scene brightens.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' Maybe this running business just isn't for you. Have you ever considered the making and selling of tiny breads?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Homestar Bunmaker, eh? Me likey, me likey! Thanks, Eggman! ''{turns away, but then turns back}'' Oh, and... ''{throws coins}'' why don't you get yourself something to eat? Put some meat on them bones, girl!

''{Homestar walks off. The bar dividing the two scenes slides off to the left, resulting in a single scene. The camera pans right to reveal the same rock-throwing scene just to the right of Strong Bad's head. His head turns toward his body.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' That's some nice revolutin', there, body, but, uh, maybe we should spread out. Like, more.

''{The body gives the head a thumbs-up. Cut to a closeup of Strong Bad's head on a beach. His head is sitting on a picnic blanket, resting against a palm tree, wearing a pair of sunglasses. There is a drink with three umbrellas in front of him. A seagull can be heard in the background. The camera zooms out slowly.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' Ah, livin' the sleazy life.

''{The camera cuts back to show that Strong Bad's head is actually alone on a small island.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' ''{turning back}'' Hey, cabana boy! My drink needs more umbrellas! What kind of deserted island is this, anyway?

''{Cut to Club Technochocolate, where Strong Bad's body is dancing with Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Meanwhile, my body could be off putting its considerably reduced weight on it down at the cloughb!

'''BUBS:''' Dang, Strong Body! Without all that extra head ballast, your moves are twicely fresh! Twicely fresh!

''{Cut to an image of Strong Bad's head rolling across The Field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' My head would probably get pretty dizzy just rollin' around all the time. I might have to rig up some kind of repulsorlifts!

''{The camera cuts back, and the head begins to hover through a disc on the bottom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Naw, scratch that. I'm gonna need something with a little more... muscle.

''{The disc disappears and is replaced by flaming exhaust pipes on the top of its head. Motorcycle sounds are heard.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' Oh, yeah! That's what I'm talkin' about! ''{leans back, as though revving up}'' Reer! Reeeeer! ''{starts zipping back and forth across the scene quickly}'' Rooow! Rooow! Rooo! Reer! ''{imitating brakes as it stops}'' Reeeeee! Whoa! This mess rules! I can finally win the million-yard dash! ''{zips forward again}'' Roooo...

''{Cut to a finish line, which the head zips through quickly. Then cut to the other side, where Coach Z is holding a stopwatch.}''

'''HEAD BAD:''' ''{imitating brakes}'' Reeeee! Oh, yes! I beat Homestar!

'''COACH Z:''' Sorry, Head Bad, but you was the only one competin' this year! Old 'Strammy's gone and quit the runnin' business!

''{Homestar jumps up behind Strong Bad's head, wearing a new hat that reads "BUNMAKER" and holding a box of "TINY BREADS".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cooornbreeeeead! I got cornbread here! Dinner rolls! Cornbread! Everybody wants a bun! Lemme hear that dinner roll!

''{Cut to a blank white screen. Strong Bad's body walks on from stage right, while the unaltered head rolls on from stage left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Maybe one day, we'd both learn to regenerate...

''{The head gains an arm, a green leg, a spirally arm, and an extremely thin robotic-looking leg. The body gains an odd growth colored to look like Strong Bad's head in its chest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...creating two perfectly-formed Strong Bad specimens!

'''STRONG BODY:''' ''{in a whiny voice that sounds nothing like Strong Bad}'' I would like to go to the store.

'''HEAD BAD:''' ''{in a scratchy voice followed by laughing that also sounds nothing like Strong Bad}'' ''{unintelligible}'' [[#Footnote|[1]]] 

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Eeeugh! Go away, head-nub and nub-head. Those things look straight out of the creature shop from some low-to-no budget horror film. Maybe chopping my head off isn't such a good idea.

''{Cut back to show The Cheat standing next to a guillotine near the computer.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes dejected The Cheat noises, walks off}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy's screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, time to go satisfy my sudden craving for tiny breads. ''{gets up}'' Hope I can find my local bunman...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

===Footnote===

#This line could be "I like your shoes", "I hate your shoes", "I think you're shoes", "I think you're cute", "I think you're stupid", or the word salad "I ate your shoes".

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:sbemail Deodorant.png|thumb|Soccer scent.]]
[[Image:Disconnected Easter egg.PNG|thumb|We're onto you.]]
*At the very beginning, click "strongbad_email.exe" to see sbemail Deodorant. Pictures show:
<blockquote>
sbemail 
Deodorant 
Soccer Scent 
 
"I'm feeling my style... 
I've got confidence in my email!"
</blockquote>

*At the end, click on "horror film" to see a movie poster for "Regenerator 4".
<blockquote>
A Low-To-No Budget Horror Film 
 
REGENERATOR 4 
OR: FOUR MORE REGENERATORS 
 
With Special Make-up Effects by 
TOLD SALLIAVER[[Lowercase i's|i]]</blockquote>

*Click on "good idea" to see a propaganda poster of The Poopsmith Stormtroopers.
<blockquote>
SUPPORT THE MUNICIPALITY! 
 
WE'RE ONTO YOU.</blockquote>

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*[[Wikipedia:Ballast tanks|Ballast]] is a material (such as water) used in a ballast tank to add mass to an object, usually to improve stability.

===Trivia===

*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#below the root|below the root]]".
*One million yards is approximately 568 miles. If Head Bad "dashed" at a constant 200 mph, his time for the race would be 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 27.273 seconds.
*This is the first email in which an Easter egg is found before the actual email is shown.
*When Head Bad is on the deserted island, he is wearing his [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] sunglasses.

===Remarks===

*Viewing the Flash file of this email on a web browser does not allow you to see outside of the frame by stretching the window, due to there being a large black area covering the area normally offscreen. If stretched far enough, there is, actually, an end to the black area.
*[[Wiktionary:plausible|Plausible]] means "seemingly believable", and a [[Wiktionary:plausibility|plausibility]] is anything that is plausible. Strong Bad's use of the word "plausibility" is incorrect; a more appropriate word would be "possibility".
*The Regenerator 4 Easter egg has an unexpected [[Lowercase i's|lowercase i]] in the same word as a capital I.
*In the DVD commentary for [[island]], [[Matt Chapman]] said that he and [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] planned to revisit the island scene in a later toon.
*When Head Bad finishes the 1 million yard dash, the running lanes are labeled 5, 6, 7. Lanes 1 through 4 are missing.
*"The Municipality" is a synonym of "town", as in the one over which the King rules.
*This is the first time the King of Town has shown any authority in Free Country USA.
*Homestar doesn't actually have any cornbread in his box of tiny breads.

===Goofs===

*When Head Bad gets the 'muscle' engine growing out of his head, his shadow on the ground never changes to match the engine.
*When Head Bad finishes the 1 million yard dash, the finish line tape is connected to a pole. In another shot there, the pole is gone, and the tape just sits on the ground.
*When Strong Body is "rioting against the municipality" a rock appears in his glove after each throw without him reaching into the box. Also, the rocks in the box don't seem to be disappearing.
*The Poopsmith's bat and Head Bad's sign should have been seen in the opposite scenes before the screen pans, seeing as both objects crossed the division between the screens.
*When Strong Bad is on the island, the lemon on the drinking glass appears to be directly connected to the glass, instead of being wedged into the edge.

===Inside References===

*[[Head Bad and Strong Body]] were first used on [[Main Page 7]].
*Coach Z calling Homestar "'Strammy" mirrors his mispronunciation "Stramstar" in [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*Strong Bad's pronunciation of "club" also occurred in [[extra plug]] and [[nightlife]].
*The exhaust pipes on Strong Bad's head are the same ones used on Bubs's pumpkin in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*Homestar becoming a bunmaker could be related to his obsession with [[bread]] in [[origins]].
*Bubs's dance in [[Club Technochocolate]] is the same one he did in [[geddup noise]].
*While Strong Body is dancing in Club Technochocolate, he slides on the ground while kneeling, a move that was also performed by Strong Bad at the end of his [[rock opera]].
*Strong Bad's head was first called an [[egg]] in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*A "cabana boy" was mentioned earlier in the [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams#DVD Transcript|DVD version of Tropical Lazor Beams]].

===Real-World References===

*Strong Bad's "career advisor" sign is similar to the "Psychiatric help" sign used by [[Wikipedia:Lucy van Pelt|Lucy van Pelt]] from the [[Peanuts]] comics. More specifically, it reads "The doctor is real in", with "real in" being the moveable part of the sign in ''[[Wikipedia:A Charlie Brown Christmas|A Charlie Brown Christmas]]''.
*The Repulsorlift is the technology used in the ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars]]'' universe to create lift for vehicles. It is most notably used on the various speeders, but it also works for spacecraft, such as the [[Wikipedia:X-wing|X-wing]]. It is supposedly based on the creation of artificial gravity "pockets" that act against the natural gravity of other objects.
*The phrase "put your weight on it" (in reference to dancing) comes from the Rudy Ray Moore movie ''The Disco Godfather,'' and is often regarded as the best thing about the movie. This phrase was used earlier in the email [[flashback]].
*"Lemme hear that dinner roll" is a reference to the lyrics of the 1994 song [[Wikipedia:Tootsie Roll (song)|"Tootsie Roll"]] by the band 69 Boyz.
*The exhaust pipes coming out of Head Bad could be referred to as a "[[Wikipedia:Manifold (automotive engineering)|header]]" in automotive engineering parlance.
*The "We're Onto You" poster could be a reference to the similar propaganda "Big Brother Is Watching You" from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Nineteen Eighty-Four|Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''.
*Bubs's repetition of the phrase "twicely fresh" is reminiscent of the Sesame Street character and host of Mysterious Theater Vincent Twice's repetition of his own name.
*"Regenerator 4" is possibly a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Re-Animator|Re-Animator]] series of horror films.
*"With Special Make-up Effects by TOLD SALLIAVERi" could be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Tom Savini|Tom Savini]], well-known special effects make-up man in many low-budget (as well as hit) movies, such as [[Wikipedia:Day of the Dead|Day of the Dead]] and the [[Wikipedia:Friday the 13th (series)|Friday the 13th]] series.
*Strong Bad's deserted island drink could be a [[Wikipedia:Tequila Sunrise (cocktail)|Tequila Sunrise]], judging by the scene's tropical theme and the drink's gradual color blend from yellow to dark orange.






===Fast Forward===
*The floppy disk reading "below the root" also appears in [[keep cool]].
*The Municipality is later referenced in [[more armies]].
*Strong Bad does the same dance moves at Club Technochocolate in [[nightlife]].
**The extended version of the music heard at Club Technochocolate would be heard in the aforementioned email.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==

{{sbemailextlinks|148|7364}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Beach Volleyball

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:27:05 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Adding more on my viewpoint.

{{tbd}}
== Inclusion ==
Maybe it could go on [[Sports]], rather than be a separate page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. Not important enough for its own page. {{User:Peter222/sig}}
::I was going to add a link to Sports, but was surprised it wasn't listed there. Yes, a '''merge with [[Sports]]''' would be a good place for this page. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Agreed. [[Sports]] is a perfect place for this article's info. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Supporting move to [[Sports]]. There is just not enough here. It feels so empty. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 01:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:STUFF

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:11:23 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Decommission */ Yes

==Show Page Problem?==
When I attempt to add my name to a vote and click "show page", it brings me up to that toon's stuff page (ie STUFF/mile) rather than the original STUFF page with all the facts on it. Is this a glitch? Its a little troublesome to have to click back and then back again to get back to the STUFF page. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: It's normal, because the only edits to the actual STUFF page are adding more subpages. There's a "back to STUFF index" link on every fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:58, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::got it. thanks~ --[[User:Tony Stony|<nowiki></nowiki>]][[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony<nowiki></nowiki>]] 16:59, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Good Jorb ==
Much, MUCH better, guys. Great job. ''{gives round of applause}'' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 18:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Well done It's Dot Com, Tom, Jay, and anyone else who was involved with this. This incarnation of stuff should really cut down on the flaming and the confusion of the old way. One question: what if the vote is a tie when two weeks is up? Do we go into sudden death? (exprobably not) Does decline win automatically? (would make sense to me) Accept?-- {{User:Tony_Stony/sig}} 19:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I also agree, it looks great! I think that if the two weeks are up and it's a tie, then it just stays up longer until the tie is broken. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:11, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I actually ''used'' it for real the first time today, and it is ''so easy'' to see at a glance how each fact is doyng. I mean ''doing''. I'm really glad we got this done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:And now I have gotten to STUFF two new real facts using the new method—so simple, anyone could use it! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It looks great! Much more easier, although it takes a little longer to add a new fun fact, it's still way better! And it's really easy to count the votes! Thank you to all that were involved in re-organising STUFF (Jay did the tedious work of launching STUFF, changing all the fun facts to the new templates and everything). {{User:Rainer/sig}} 05:49, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I just did the grunt work. I helped with a little of the formatting stuff, but most of the design (as far as I see it) was IDC's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:55, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I meant. I also like how you can now add individual STUFF'd fun facts to your watchlist, instead of watching the whole page. I used to never go to STUFF because of how messy it was, but now I visit the page heaps. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 06:05, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

''gasp!'' Oh. My. Gods. I. Love. It. Oh. So. Much! [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 1:08, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Candidates for speedy verdicts ==
I propose the following guidelines for closing facts before the two-week time period is complete:
* After 4 days, a unanimous vote of at least 8
* After 1 week, a unanimous vote of any number
* After 1 week, a vote in which one side has at least 8 more votes than the other AND the ratio of votes is at least 3 to 1 (for example: 9 to 1, 12 to 4, 15 to 5)
— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That's pretty close to the criteria that I use(d) to close STUFFs quickly. I have been known to close a STUFF that's 10-0 (or higher) after just a couple of days though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, I've never had a problem with items being closed that are just taking up space. I wrote these guidelines not too long ago in an attempt to codify our policy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::I've taken your advice and closed a couple of items quite early when they met the following criteria: unanimous or overwhelming vote with a double-digit lead. "Overwhelming" to me is a vote ratio of at least 4 to 1, preferably 6 or more to 1. The sooner it's closed after opening, the bigger the lead has to be. Also, if nobody votes on an item for over a day, but other items are heavily traficked, then (again, depending on the vote) it might be time to shut the former down. Judging these is becoming as much an art as a science. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:47, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Verdicts ==
For verdicts, we can either move the items to the talk pages (like we do now), or they could be moved to a different subpage, like '''HRWIKI:STUFF Archive/pagename''', for example. If we use an archive subpage, we should put a reference link on the talk page with the fact in question and the verdict.<div style="text-indent:2em">As items close, they should definitely be ''moved'' somewhere. Otherwise, if down the line someone STUFFs something new from a page, all the old, closed facts will still be there. Once a template subpage is empty (all the facts have closed), the template subpage should be deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>
:Okay, I've set up some more templates and closed some facts. I think the verdict notices should move to the respective talk pages after a few days or so; then the STUFF templates can be deleted and the STUFF links can be removed from the articles. I've got to run right now, but tomorrow I'll write up the procedures for closing items. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::All right, I've written the instructions for '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/Verdict|How to close an item]]'''. The instructions are not for novices, so I don't know whether they should go on the main STUFF page or not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:49, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Doesn't fix everything ==

Apparently, as cool as this system is, there's still the plague of "Accepting a fact because I like it, even if it's not (or questionably) factual." I'm especially disappointed in three of my fellow sysops for voting for such a fact, all of whom I thought had more sense than that. And... I just needed to get that off my chest. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I'm disappointed that you beat around the bush instead of just saying that the fact is "You said doyng" and that I'm one of the sysops you're disappointed in. And I happen to think that the fact is true true true. Strong Bad lingers on that word far longer than any other word in that email. Disagreeing is fine, and accusing me outright of not having any sense is fine (although I can't speak for others), but there's no need to be all passive-aggressive. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Gosh! I thought he was talking about the "[[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_(ACCEPTED)|Change of Pace]]" Family Guy reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::"Change of pace" was the old system. "Doyng" is on the new system and has three sysops in the "accept" column. (I was the one who originally stuffed and defended it.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Strictly speaking, I didn't accuse you of having NO sense. Anyway, I just needed to rant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:01, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::That's true, that's true. You wouldn't be the first though. :p {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:48, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Neutral Voting==

I'd like to see a column for neutral votes. Sometimes I'd like to be able to express my opinion on an item, even if my opinion is just "meh". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:No. Take a stand, one way or the other. A neutral vote is no vote at all, and just takes up space. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:13, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::With the new format, voting doesn't take up nearly much screen space. You're correct when you state that a neutral vote is no vote at all. But it does express an opinion. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:16, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::An opinion of "meh" is not useful. Nobody cares if another user doesn't care, you know? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Shrug. Personally, I thought neutral voting was an interesting and useful part of the old STUFF system. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::BTW "neutral" doesn't necessarily mean "I don't care". If you don't care, don't vote! To me Neutral meant "I'm interested but I'm not sure" or "I'm thinking about it" or "Convince me". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:26, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::That's a reasonable point. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::The arguments are there to convince you. A couple of times now, I've made up my mind (and even changed it) based on some good arguments. But I don't think we should have to write ''more'' arguments to sway those on the fence. For one, if the vote is close, there will be plenty of arguments to read, and if it's not close, one vote in the other direction isn't going to make that much of a difference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Lawmakers (as an example) don't have to vote only "Yea" or "Nay" on a given subject . They have two other options. They can choose not to vote or they can abstain. You could look at a "neutral" vote as an abstention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::That's a distinction without a difference. Not voting and officially abstaining have exactly the same effect: '''nothing'''. In our system, one must truly ''decide'' what his or her vote is, and only then does it go on record. I'll say again: you gotta take a stand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::The difference is that abstaining is not anonymous. You've gone on the record, albieit blandly. Personally, I like to know who is on the fence (although you didn't always know that with the old system either). Obviously, the new system works fine without neutral voting. I just miss it a little. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:50, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::As far as caring who the neutral voters are, I'll just say this: Meh. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:08, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Neutral votes in the old format were meant for adding comments without the comment being counted as a vote. But we can do that with this system anyway. Since you can just elect not to vote, there really doesn't seem much point for a "Neutral" vote. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: I agree, what's the ppoint of a neutral vote? Anyone who hasn't voted is a neutral vote. There's no reason to have it. If you haven't chosen a side, don't vote! If you haven;t chosen a side but want toi state a comment, use the super handy ultra cool comments section. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 01:26, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:if you really feel neutral vote on both sides. or if you fell strongly neutral vote twice for both sides. this is the only option that makes sense. {{User:Csours/sig}} 22:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::Um, this discussion is months old. And don't vote twice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

==How Did I Get Here?==
Is there an easier way to get to the main STUFF page? I have to search it every time I want to come here. If not, can we put a link on the [[Main Page]] or the sidebar under navigation so we can vote on our lovely STUFF? [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 00:06, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
* [[The Stick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
** Not bad, not bad. Clicking two links vs. typing one search. I'll have to decide. Thanks, Jay. [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 00:51, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
***Plus, [[STUFF]] redirects here. That's only five letters! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
****Incidentally, so does [[stuff]]. That doesn't even require ''shift''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Fake User Names or Unlogged Regulars? ==

I haven't been deleting votes from some IPs because they use the User Names of regulars. But now IPs have been voting with user names that don't seem to be real (for instance, [[User:Mix Ma$ta'|Mix Ma$ta']] has made [[Special:Contributions/Mix Ma$ta'|zero edits]].) What to do? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:42, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I've been noticing this, and been thinking, "uh oh." I think all anonymous-ip votes need to be deleted, even if it is the known ip of a regular user. We should draw the line at "Must be logged in." Period. This would take a lot of work to maintain, though. But it would be worth it if we could stop any exploiting of the system. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:46, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::"You must be logged in when you vote" was one of the original instructions I wrote for the page, but I haven't been enforcing it for known users because I didn't want to come across as too strict. It always peeves me a little, though, when users don't log in. (I usually just ''stay'' logged in, although I know all users don't have their own computer and thus can't do so. But signing in seriously takes about 6 seconds, so there's no good excuse for not.) Concerning Mix Ma$ta', it seems an anonymous IP created a userpage but not an account. That's... unusual. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::: I'm not so sure that it IS that unusual... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:35, 7 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:: Sorry for being late, but... "Mix Ma$ta" is actually a nickname for "[[HRFWiki:The Mu|The Mu]]," a common fanstuff wiki user. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== I have a question ==

Is there a link to the stuff pages, because it's kinda tiring searching for the stuff'd things.

:I think what you are asking for is all here: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No, I mean like let's say the new strong bad email, I wanna link to the page of the strong bad email stuff'd facts.

== End of witty comments ==

Thank god for this new system. Finally, I don't have to put up with people who type "DECLINATION TO THE MOOOON!!!!!!" rather than just "Decline." That stuff can be annoying after awhile. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 07:02, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== I think I know why some people write stupid Fun Facts. ==

It's just that they are so exicted to see their addiditons to the Wiki. -Kinsey
:That's very true. (But we've still gotta weed 'em out.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:10, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:P.S. I mentioned this earlier, but it might have gotten lost in all the hustle and bustle: A quick tip: You can sign your name on talk pages simply by typing four tildes (<tt><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></tt>). That will automatically create a link to your user page and a timestamp.

== Clean Up ==

It seems like there are too many completed fun facts on the STUFF page. It needs to be cleaned out. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:51, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:They get cleared about every two weeks or so. I went ahead and did it this morning. I must say, though, that even though there were a lot of closed items on the page, thanks to the new format it was still quite tidy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:58, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Table of Contents ==
I used the wonder of "show preview" to see what this page would be like with a table of contents. What I found was a useful and non-obtrusive link to all the fun facts. Maybe we should add it to the page? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 03:47, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I checked it out too, and I agree. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:58, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Two reasons not: First, the page is designed to make you, or at least hopefully a new user, read the instructions. Second, it's designed to make users scroll across various items. That way, if anything is new (like a revision) or if they forgot to vote on an item, they'll notice it.<div style="text-indent:1.5em">If you've already voted on older items, that's okay, because the newer items are always at the top, and scrolling past the instructions really isn't that far. Also, whenever you reach a STUFF subpage from an article, it always takes you directly there. Then, when you click "back to STUFF index", it takes you to the top of the items, not the top of the page. Finally, because we are doing a better job clearing out items, there often aren't very many on the page (in fact, a couple of days ago there were only ''two'' open items). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:59, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)</div>

:::Okay, sorry for bringing up an old topic, but if the purpose is for people to read the instructions, why don't we put the TOC ''below'' the instructions? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::::Well, that wasn't the only purpose listed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== My eyes! ==

Ahh! What;s with the new STUFF colors? They are blinding! Please, reconsider your choice of colors,at leat maked it match with the wiki's colors (which seem to be blue and white, or grey maybe) Thanks for reading, have a nice tray-er.. day. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 00:28, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:Where are you talking about, exactly? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::The bright yellow tables, in my opinion they do not go well with the white background.. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 22:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm afraid I still don't know which ones you mean. If you're talking about the ones that show you where to put arguments and votes, then that's the way it's always been since the overhaul several months ago. If you're talking about the headers, then I must disagree with you. They look way better than they used to; they're actually legible now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I'm tlaking about the tables at the top, with the links to how to STUFF a fact, how to votew, and those things. Couldn't they be light blue? Yellow just clashes with the blue and white theme of the wiki. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 16:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I'm agreeing with Ju Ju Master here. They don't look very...wiki-ish. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::::Not "wiki-ish"? Maybe you should look at this [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Introduction|Wikipedia page]], which has exactly the same format. At any rate, the yellow of the tables was chosen specifically to ''contrast'' with the blue of the links and the highlights, and also to draw attention so that people might actually see them. As for that particular yellow, it has been in use here for months, and it's a muted yellow—hardly what someone could call blinding. If you want to see light blue and gray, just scroll down to the items. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::This was a long time ago, but yeah, I 'gree with dot com. It looks fine like this, and now you can read it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:16, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

==Edit links for every voting list?==
''{copied from [[Template:STUFF/Fall_Float_Parade]]}'': 
Would it be too much to alter the template so that revisions also have their own edit button? I think it would be much helpful and less confusing. EVEN BETTER: have each vote section (for and against) have their own edit buttons so that people can be sure to be voting in the right section.) I know this belongs in some talk page somewhere, but I don't know where and I do not feel like looking for it right now. Thanks! — [[User:Stux|Stux]]
:'''Strongly''' seconded!! When a fact gets three or so revisions, and say you want to vote for the second one, scrolling through all the code and still getting your vote into the right place can be frustrating at best, and potentially bewildering for the inexperienced! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::I've always wondered why we don't have an [edit] tab for revisions... Tis frustrating sometimes. Full support here. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
You must grant, however, that a fact with two or three revisions is quite unusual. And often people need to switch their vote in order to vote for a revision, or they may need to decline more than one revision at once. That said, I will look into adding this feature. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:26, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:P.S. An edit button for each column (accepts and declines) seems excessive. If people can't review their vote after it's been cast, then they'll be no better off than the Floridians who couldn't tell whether they had punched a chad on their ballots or not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::'''Second''' It would be quite simple, really. Just replacing the <big> tags around the code with ''<nowiki>=====</nowiki>'' would do it. Perhaps a note should be left [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:stuffrevise&action=edit here]? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:28, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That didn't work. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I'm ''not'' so convinced of the rarity of multiple revisions; seems like the STUFFs for most of the last few major 'toons have included them. I agree, though, that it would be unfortunate to lose the ability to edit multiple revisions at once. Maybe it could be like Fun Facts, where there's one edit link for all of Fun Facts and then individual ones for the sub-headings? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:47, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::Looking over the archives, even for recent toons, it's not that common, although it has happened a bit more because people have been a little haphazard with the revisions. Making the revision into a subsection was exactly what I tried to do, but it screwed up all the sections, such that when I clicked on edit all I got was a blank screen. I'll research it more when I have some time to concentrate on it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:::The headers did not work correctly? Strange. I do remember encountering some time ago a page that, when rendered, had the edit buttons point to the wrong section? Perhaps the fact that we're using templates to introduce the indices and in reality cannot edit the template'd code without a <Code>subst</CoDE> may be the reason why you're getting empty pages. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== Stuff Voting Procedure ==

I've noticed for some time now that the current voting procedure is rather biased when we are dealing with facts that have proposed revisions. What I mean is that when a fun fact in question has a revision posted for voting, the vote is humongously biased against declining both votes.
What do I mean by this? I we see [[Template:STUFF/Fall_Float_Parade|the vote]] for the first fact '' Ouch! Buzz Buzz Buzz'' and its two revisions. Anybody can vote to decline all three revisions.

That is one voter can affect the decline vote of all three revisions. However, that same voter can only vote positively in one of the three revisions listed. They do have the option to decline the other revisions, but can only accept one. Here is the bias: suppose we have 10 voters voting for the aforementioned revision. Each revision can each have up to 10 decline votes. Thus making it look like 30 people voted. However the accept votes must be (understandably) divided by the 10 people voting. This makes it *really* easy for a fun fact to be completely declined by a minority of voters. Yes voters can change their votes to other revisions, but they must generally be actively notified of such need by other interested voters (in a form of ''voter's activism''). If you add up the number of accept votes, it is clear that the voters want some form of the fact to be accepted. But like i said the bias will likely land the fun fact declined. Don't you just love politics?
I couldn't think of a reasonable voting scheme alternative until now: we could make the declines vote an alternative "revision". That is if we have a fun fact that has a revision, then we'd have:
#the original fact (vote only to accept)
#revision 1 (vote only to accept)
#revision 2 (vote only to accept)
#decline votes (all votes of people who decline all 3 revisions)
Voters would only be allowed to vote on one of these 4 categories. Thus the vote is evenly divided between the 4 options. Actually, even this proposed revision has bias in it. (a 1/4th majority would only be needed to decline the revision). A better tally would be to have the decline votes outnumber the sum of revision votes (i.e. 1/2 of voters have to vote to decline). ''Optional:'' If the revisions win, and the decline votes have a majority (i.e. less than 1/2 voters, but greater than the votes for any of the other 3 revisions), then a revote can be made so that those who declined the fact can vote for whatever revision they deem best. (Or they could do so preemptively, have a "secondary vote" in case the declines lose). ''end optional section.''

It's a mess, I know. ''Fair'' voting isn't easy to achieve, and is still being [http://www.electionline.org/ hotly debated] by many scholars and politicians alike. Some real-world proposals range from a staggered voting scheme (everyone votes for their #1 candidate choice, their #2 choice, and so on; ties are broken by the #2, #3 choices, etc.), a weighed voting scheme (like the staggered, only that the #1 choice has a certain amount of points, #2 has less points, etc. and the winner would get the sum of points -- much like the way racing videogames determine the winner of a circuit), and the "let it be" scheme (that is, the way the US system works and many other countries). Some of the newer schemes have been implemented in countries in Australia and England if I remember correctly. Every system has its own inherent bias unfortunately. Not many people realize that the vote can be influenced simply by choosing a different voting scheme that "seems" fair. Personally, I don't mind the US voting system at all, recent controversies and all. The recent german vote, to me, seemed stranger than anything. (''Wow, what a tangent!'', anyway back to the topic.) You may say that the current STUFF scheme resembles the US system, but it does not: the US system does not have a "decline" option to where you couldn't have a president or senator or governor take office. You must choose "one of the lesser evils". With STUFF, things are different. The ''decline'' option introduces a whole new set of complexities that must be appropriately dealt with. 
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh and I forgot: on the technical side of things, if the above proposition, or one similar to it is adopted, we may likely need to create new templates so as to not mess our current vote archives since their inherent structures are different. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:It took me a lot of reading and re-reading, but I think I finally got my brain up to speed with what you're saying. My first response was "Of course someone can vote against all but only for one! What if someone doesn't approve of ''any'' of them? But we can't have multiple versions of the fact on the page, so someone can only ''approve'' one." But then I tried harder to understand your proposal: You're saying that voting for a given revision ''assumes'' a decline for the other revisions, right? I.e. if I vote for #3 I don't have to explicitly vote ''against'' #s 1 & 2. Thus the "vote only to accept" stuff; at the end we'd just award it to the revision with the most votes. You lost me with the part about the 1/4th majority; wouldn't it only take one voter more than the winning revision had to decline it? I.e. if the voting breaks down 1-3-2, then it would only take the remaining 4 voters to decline it.
:But moving on from understanding your concerns to critiquing them: This would involve difficulties of notifying people who've already voted as well. Every vote with revisions starts its life as a simple "up or down vote" (to use a trendy phrase). Presumably some will start voting for it and some against it. Now a revision's introduced. We change both to "vote only to accept"—and do what with the existing declines? They can't be assumed to be decline-alls. We'd have to notify them and ask them to come back and take a stand on the current revision; either vote for the new one or decline all. This would have to be ''repeated'' with each new revision!
:Mightn't a simpler answer be to keep the current system and somehow automatically notify previous voters when a revision is made? (Or make the reviser manually do it, but I don't like that idea.) But also there's a compelling argument for simply letting ''voter activism'' and ''voter apathy'' take their natural courses. After all, we're not electing the next president; outsiders have more than once marvelled at how deathly serious we take things around here, for fans of '''a cartoon'''. One could argue that if one cares enough about their vote they can jolly well check up on it, or conversely if someone can't be bothered to log in more than once a month and their vote gets wasted, tough cookies to them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Excuse my ignorance, but why vote at all? Just add it the same way everything else is. If a single item is disputed then "vote" or discuss it if necessary. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 04:16, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:Good question, Broken Segue. The reason, as far as I can tell, is that we have disputes about our Fun Facts ''all the time''. I don't know what it's like at Wikipedia, but people debate whether or not x is a reference to y on a regular basis. Originially, STUFF was largely just a vote/discussion (look at the votes archived on talk pages before this summer for examples). It was changed because we had trouble with things like ''ad hominem'' attacks on people during the voting and because the votes and arguments were getting confusing (for the most famous example of this, see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29 this infamous debate]. The newer procedure is cleaner and, IMHO, easier to use. I suppose if we didn't have disputes about Fun Facts so often, it wouldn't be necessary, but as the situation here is now, I find it useful. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::wow, you are right. Sounds like some people need to take some chill pills. That's the problem when not all facts need to be verified from a source...it's all just speculation. Still, you could approve the general idea of a fact and iron out the wording later. It seems silly to have 3 alternate versions with different wordings. The issue is, is the fact true. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 04:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::First off, thank you all for your thorough and well thought out responses. I know it presented a lot to digest. To clarify things: I realize now that I made a mistake when I stated thr 1/4th majority for the decline votes. I mistakenly assumed that the other three votes were evenly distributed, then a 1/4th majority in the declines would work, but that may not always be the case of course. Abdi's example makes more sense: all you need is one more vote than the leader to decline: so if the accept revision vote is 1-3-2 and the decline vote is 4, then all three revisions get declined even though there are 6 voters in favor of some sort of revision.

:::You can see that this is exactly the same thing that is currently going on: take the same 10 voters, those who voted accept voted 1-3-2 as in the example before, and suppose they abstained from declining the others. Now suppose just 4 ''different'' voters voted decline on each of the three revisions. All three revisions will easily get declined. The votes would be worse if those who voted accept for some revisions vote decline for the others. See what I mean? Not even ''voter apathy'' is required to turn down revisions, those who want to see revisions passed must actually fight an ''uphill battle'' to do so (they'd have to convince all the other voters to "switch to their side" and "gang up" against the naysayers).

:::You are right though Abdi, it is a hassle in ''any'' case to have to have people come back and vote again on the same thing twice (unless a new revision was proposed between the time they voted and "now"). However, their vote should not be ''weakened'' simply because a new revision was proposed. The original Wikipedia voting system (from which I assume this was derived) does not quite have the problem since i've only seen it being used for keep/delete votes for pages. They have no need to make revisions and so they don't run into this problem.

:::BrokenSegue's idea is a very good one (I was thinking about something like it but couldn't come up with something decent): have two different types of votes within the same topic. One would be wether you want to accept the fun fact ''or some sort of revision for it,'' or just decline it altogether. The second vote would be for what revision you would vote for, including the original version (you could abstain from voting for any revision). The revision with the most votes would win, ''only if'' the accept votes defeated the decline votes. And it would be all done in one fell swoop. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't read this whole discussion (because it was too darn long), so tell me if I didn't get the gist right. It has been evident to me for a while that we need to be able to accept the ''idea'' of an item separate from the actual wording. When the system was set up, it was pretty much unheard of to propose a ''revision'' to an item that was already on its way to being accepted. Revisions were a last resort when the original item was going down in flames. Lately, however, revisions have been a little more willy-nilly, to use a techinical term. What would be the fairest way to implement a change? A third column, perhaps? (Forgive me if this is already mentioned above, but I'm really in a hurry and am not going to read it before I post this reply.) "Accept if revision fails", or something like that? Or should we allow users to accept more than one revision? Somebody work up some mock-ups. I will when I get a chance later tonight or tomorrow. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:45, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::'''(Edit conflict)''' That [Stux's new proposal] has promise. I still can't quite imagine it in action, largely because it assumes that fairly often people will be strongly for or strongly against, but not care that much about the differences between revisions. On the contrary, taking the current STUFF as an example: the one about Marzi & bees and the one about Marshie both have three revisions, and I'm definitely in favor of ''one'' specific revision of each and very much against the others. I'm still not convinced that the inequity you're perceiving is really that inequitable: Without revisions, each vote is simply up or down. If we consider each revision individually, it still stands or falls based simply on votes for or against. If the accept votes have less agency, it's because they're disunified; they may ''or may not'' prefer a different revision to no fact at all. And again, if they ''are'' willing to switch their vote in order to see a revision win, the ball is in their court to do so.
:::::Now wait, a minute; for what I'm saying to be true (and I do think this is a possible solution), there would have to be a clearer statement of when a STUFF vote expires. I would probably hold out on my favored revision until the last minute, then switch to a secondary choice as the deadline got close. Without knowing ''when'' the last minute is, though, I'd probably sit tight. For it to really be equitable, we should have an automated system that notified people when facts they had a vote in were drawing to a close, since it's pretty naive to expect anyone to keep track of all of them (when you're putting STUFF deadlines in your DayPlanner, you know you're ''too'' involved with the Wiki!).
:::::But on another note, I'm not so concerned about it being hard to get a fact accepted. As BrokenSegue pointed out, pretty much every STUFF vote deals with issues that can't be proven evidentially (if, for instance, TBC say something about it in a commentary, then it would be silly to STUFF it). This ''is'' a knowledge base, and the goal should be to keep it as accurate as possible. While I think all these "maybes" and "possiblies" ''should'' be documented, since it's edifying to know about them, even if they're not proven, that already happens through the STUFF process itself and Talk page entries (like [[Talk:Arcade Game#fonzie?|this one]]). (Arguing against myself, though, if a majority of users like a fact and it still gets voted down, and can't subsequently be added since it's "been through STUFF," is that really the Wiki Way? I'm not sure I understand the Wiki Way. Which is more important, accuracy or equity?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::You guys are making this too complicated. There have been 202 items that have gone through the process since we adopted the new format, and every last one of them has been closed according to a consensus of voters. (Some votes, naturally, are closer calls than others.) The standard voting period is two weeks. This is usually twice as long as is necessary to determine the will of the community (sometimes it's ''fourteen times'' too long). After a week or so, I feel comfortable closing an item if it is currently enjoying a 3 to 1 ratio (either for or against) and has a minimum number of total votes. If something has been open only a few days, I use a standard of 4 or 5 to 1, depending. Items are usually closed immediately when the ratio reaches 20 to 1. At that point, if someone were going to propose a revision, they would have by that point. When deciding when to render verdicts, I also use common sense, such as the relative speculation in the item and whether heavy contributors have voted for or against it. I am quite confident in how things are going and believe that the process works. If there is ever a gray area (which is most rare), I leave a note on a talk page. If anyone believes the wrong verdict has been rendered, he or she can bring it up for appeal. Let me clarify that last statement. An appeal cannot be brought simply because one disagrees with the verdict; it must be shown that there was something wrong with the ''process''. Possible reasons would include new evidence not available at the time of the vote, a belief that the majority of voters misunderstood the question, voter fraud (unlikely but technically possible), or if the vote were closed too early (although, as I explained before, votes that are even remotely close are not closed before two weeks (and some are even held over a couple of days, just in case there are any stragglers (which there never have been (I believe due to the attention spans these days (okay, there are too many open parentheses here, so this will be the last nested one))))). There is only ''one'' item, by the way, that I myself would appeal, and it's from the old format days (and it's not even "the infamous one"). I just haven't gotten around to it. In the case of revisions, I am again confident that the best revision has made it into the articles. Also, note that there's nothing stopping people from discussing the wording of an accepted item and tweaking it later, so long as the ''essence'' of the item doesn't change (this has happened, incidentally). Goodness! I've written a novel here! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Hey, everybody's doin' it! And yeah, I lean back to my earlier statements that, while I see the math of your original concern, Stux, I'm not sure it's actually an operational inequity. If "accept" voters ''really, really'' wanted to overcome the free-ranging power of the decliners, they have simply to contact each other and move their votes to a popular candidate. If they can't conscience the popular version, or if they don't care enough about their vote to check on it within two weeks, then it's perfectly right for it to be declined. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Just one more question, Dot com: we ''have'' stopped using butterfly ballots, right? ;-) Seriously, though, I wanted to thank you for writing that novel; it answered some questions I've had for a long time but never gotten around to asking. I also wanted to weigh in and say that I, too, feel that the current system is a good one and probably doesn't need much tweaking. (Although I ''still'' can't decide how to vote on the "sensitive to bees" fact...) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[Image:heimstern101.gif|22px]] 02:45, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I know you were just joking, but the old version was ''very'' much like the type of confusion butterfly ballots (supposedly) caused, and the current system of clear-cut accepts/declines was devised to make things simple. Admittedly, revisions do make things sticky on occasion, which is why we have people watching out for the system. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:55, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Oh, I'm definitely aware of the old system: If you look a little higher on this discussion, you'll see that I referred Broken Segue to the most infamously convoluted STUFF vote on the old system. I may not have been around at the time, but I have read a ''lot'' of old talk pages. And whenever I did, it was so freakin' confusing to read those cussed STUFF votes! Thus, I know that there was some truth behind the butterfly ballot joke. And I definitely prefer the new system. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[Image:heimstern101.gif|22px]] 03:10, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

==Another idea==
I don't mean to make the situation more complicated by adding more thoughts, but I think this idea is worth considering. I think this way is more wiki-ish and less bureaucratic. Why not let people create these votes only in opposition to already existing facts. It would work like this.: Person A adds Fact X to the article. Person B likes it, but rewords it slightly. Person C hates X and starts a vote to get it removed. The vote is, "should we keep this fact? yes or no?" During the vote people may reword it as they please or propose secondary version but there is just one vote for the fact. If X is voted down then it is removed never to be added again otherwise it stays. Terrible facts could be "speedily" removed without a vote. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 00:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:Except for the "one vote for the fact" (if I'm interpreting that correctly), this is ''exactly'' how the process already works. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== Source Code ==

I just tried to add a new section, but the source code provided a rather sloppy syntax. I think it needs to be cleared up. It's possible to use other templates and edit them to avoid this problem. However, the course should still be fixed in case there ever aren't any. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:I think perhaps you need to look more closely at the [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage|instructions]]. If that doesn't work, I need more information: What were you trying to do? What were the steps you took to do it? How did what happened differ from what you expected? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

== Please improve code previews to work with link code ==

I briefly skimmed over the discussions above, so it's possible this was already mentioned, but I'd like to formally request that when you use <nowiki>{{stuffnew}} and {{stuffrevisecode}}</nowiki> and then press "Show Preview", the text inside the code is enclosed in <nowiki> tags. So, for instance, if I type:

<pre><nowiki>{{stuffrevisecode|The [[Wikipedia:Blue Angels|Blue Angels]] flew right past us}}</nowiki></pre>

...the code shown would look like:

{| style="background:#fed; border:none;"
| <nowiki>{{stuffrevise|The [[Wikipedia:Blue Angels|Blue Angels]] flew right past us}}</nowiki>
|}

...and not:

{| style="background:#fed; border:none;"
| <nowiki>{{stuffrevise|The</nowiki> [[Wikipedia:Blue Angels|Blue Angels]] flew right past us<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
|}

This would make the STUFF process much easier, IMO. (Note, my use of <nowiki> in the source code for this comment is for display purposes only. I don't know how the STUFF code itself actually works.)

{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:06, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:I have already tried to do that. As far as I can tell, there isn't a way to automatically do it. But see the last tip on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Help]]. (Does nobody read those pages?) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:12, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

::Ah, sorry - had not read the page. Thanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Resource Prominence ==

I was wondering if the "Resources" tab in the [[Template:stuffinstructions|protected template]] could be renamed "Important Resources" or even "Step by step guide" to bring a little more attention to the importance of the tab. The [[HRWiki:STUFF/About|about page]] could be linked again from that section too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:20, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have changed it to "Technical instructions". There are already ''two'' links to the About page in "What is this page and when should we use it?", which itself is set in <big>'''big, bold type.'''</big> I don't see how another link would do any good. The fact is that certain people will ''never'' read instructions, even if you set them in 100pixel-high type and make them red and blinking. Every one of those links has been there since day one of the new format, highlighted in gold (the easiest color for the eye to see), and yet I ''still'' see people who copy and paste old items to try and make new ones, or who go through process backwards (they begin by editing the STUFF index and finish up by editing the article, instead of the other way around). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::I did, however, put a link to the About page on both the Help and Quickref pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::Yeah I was kinda hoping for 150pt font size in '''bold''' with those red blinking letters you mentioned and not only that, a feature that would not let them do anything with STUFF unless they actually read the instructions and provided proof of such reading by submitting and page long essay. That or $5. Yeah... even then they'll ignore it. Oh and great idea about adding links to the About page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== When does it end? ==

Is it arbitrary? Are there rules? How does a STUFF end? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Normally they close two weeks after being opened, but if the voting is one-sided it may end early, see [[#Candidates for speedy verdicts]] above. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Well, those guidelines were proposed early and are more formal than our actual practice. A better section to read would be [[#DC|this one]] above. Suffice it to say, however, that nothing is ever closed early if the majority isn't overwhelming (unless the item can be shown to be patently false, of course). Out of curiositiy, why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Out of curiositiy. :) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Altering the STUFF'd fact ==

Earlier I reverted an anony's change to a STUFF. Someone (I'm sure in good faith) reverted me and I can see where the confusion is.

In the STUFF instructions here, we're told that we must be logged in to vote or edit arguments or offer revised STUFFs. But it never explicitly says we can't alter the STUFFed fact! I mean, it stands to reason you cannot alter the proposal, but shouldn't that be explicit in the instructions? I'd vote to '''add''' that prohibition to "notes about voting". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well, under certain circumstances, you ''can'' alter the STUFF'd fact (although you must be logged in to do so). I know I've written about this somewhere else, but now I can't find it. Oh yeah, [[HRWiki:Glossary#R|HRWiki:Glossary]]. You can ''reword'' an item (especially in the early part of its existence) without having to completely ''revise'' it. Also, in many cases it's best to leave a note when making a change like that. As for the edit in question, that was a substantial change to the meaning of the item, and if it were to move forward it would have to be proposed as a full revision. I see no reason to proceed with it, however, because it's just adding more speculation to something that's probably going to be declined anyway. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, so basically 1) No interaction with STUFF when not logged in, aside from posting arguments (but not revising), 2) No alterations to proposed item unless it improves, or at least doesn't change, the meaning. Do I get it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::(1) No anonymous interaction at all, including posting arguments (although if all an anonny does is add an argument or comment, I'm loathe to remove it for fear of appearing to be limiting speech). (2) Right, if the item just needs a little tweaking, then it's okay to fix it. Or, for example, if part of the item is patently false and yet the accepts are somehow leading, it can be changed to make it true, so long as a clear note is left for everyone to see. If it really got crazy then I suppose we'd have to start the item over completely, but so far we've been able to prevent that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== POV STUFF? ==

From comments for [[Template:STUFF/candy product]]:

:Should the title of this section be made more NPOV?
::No.
:::Yes. {{User:Qermaq/sig}}
::::No. Let me explain. The STUFF page is, by definition, all about opinions, and, thus, POV. We've had clearly POV STUFF titles before and no one complained then.
:::::Yes, as the wording of a STUFF item can certainly color one's perception of the fact. A more balanced title might lead the reader less, and should ideally always be strived for. {{User:Qermaq/sig}}
:::::Leaving the heading is like a voting booth saying "Vote for Senator Bob Statesman" in big letters. This is a place for voting, and nobody has the right to try to influence a vote. Yes, this page is all about opinions, but they belong under the clearly defined headings "arguments for" and "arguments against."
::::::This isn't the place to discuss this. Go to [[HRWiki Talk:STUFF|this page]] if it bothers you so much. As I've said, we've had STUFF facts with clearly POV titles before, and no one complained then.
:::::::no one even complained with "worst reference ever" {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That's because the "worst ever" part was a reference to something else.
:::::::: And, heck, there was a fact called "[[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/secret identity#Similarity? I think so!|Similarity? I think so!]]" that got a unanimous decline! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Point is that even if POV was overlooked in the past it's still not a fair way to present STUFF. We used to keep slaves, too. Do we stick to that precedent? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: Um, let's keep the scope of this discussion relevant. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::As long as no one complains, then it's not a problem to have POV titles. But if someone complains, then for crying out loud by all means find a compromise and make the title NPOV. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, while the 'slavery' comment isn't on the same level as voting on a cartoon fact, it remains that the policy should be to present STUFF in a manner that is fair and balanced, even if it hasn't always been done that way. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:What does NPOV mean?
::No Point Of View. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Neutral, actually. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Seems like either would work. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:STUFF titles get changed quite a bit. Well, not often, but certainly not never. (Usually the case is that the title isn't clever enough and some thinks of a cleverer one.) If there's a title you don't like because it's POV, then change it. But for truly horrible facts that just get STUFF'd to make an anonny see reason, the the STUFFer's first title is probably fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::I would agree with that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:52, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Don't get me wrong, I don't care all that much, but I'd like to raise a counter argument: what one person sees as unreasonable may not be what another sees as unreasonable. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, some things are clearly biased. If it is in the gray area where one person sees bias and another does not, it should be changed so no one sees bias. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. Sorry if I misunderstood you. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

After you vote on STUFF< you're on the toon's STUFF page, not back at the full STUFF page. So let's say I vote on a STUFF from one toon, and I want to vote on another. I have to navigate BACK to the full STUFF here and then I can vote. Is there a way to have a link to return us to the full STUFF? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:53, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:That's exactly what the "Back to STUFF index" links at the bottom of every disputed fact are for. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::Well, see what you learn around heee! (In my defense, that's ant-poop small in Opera.) Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Heh, I didn't exactly put that two and two together either, and it's bothered me many a time. So at least you're not along Qermaq. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

== Statistics ==

As of this date, just over 300 STUFF items have been processed under the current system. The decline-to-accept ratio is almost exactly 2 to 1. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

== STUFF Titles ==

I think this needs to move to Talk.

1) Not every STUFF title has to have STUFF in it, and constantly using STUFF in titles might signal a lack of creativity or some other something wrong with you.

2) That said, there's no real excuse to change a perfectly good STUFF title based solely on it including the word STUFF that I can think of.

Can we discuss this rather than edit-war about it every freakin' time? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

: I think changing a title that has STUFF in it is perfectly legit if you can come up with ''anything'' else. It's not required—or even desirable—that you title these items, "STUFFfully yours," or, "With a bunch of STUFF," or, "STUFF in the times," or, "STUFF is so great," "Everything is STUFF," "My middle name is STUFFerson." Come on, guys. Come up with something clever. We'll still vote on them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::"Something brief, yet catchy" is the sum total of the rules of titling STUFF items. Unless you're arguing that using STUFF in the title is either non-brief or non-catchy, I'd argue your contention that they should be changed is meritless, Dot Com. That said, I'm not saying they should be immutable from the outset either. Still, if we as a community discuss and agree on a different set of rules than "brief, yet catchy", that should be incorporated into the STUFF guidelines. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::What the heck? Why would you use such a charged word as "meritless"? I ''wrote'' the sentence above; I know what it says. If you want, I can put in something about not using the word "STUFF" in the title. I don't see any reason to do that, though, because it shouldn't be a rule per se. I am, however, going to change each one I come across, because I think using that word in the title is a lazy habit that we've gotten into. I was trying to draw a parallel to the overuse of the word "[[Crapfully Yours|crap]]" by senders of Strong Bad Emails. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::('''written before It's dot com's above''') How 'bout "Using 'STUFF' is ok; changing an item's title once is okay; changing it more than that (i.e. edit war) isn't." (And no, I'm not actually proposing that as an official rule, I just mean...) Creativity is a good thing. But hey, the point of these items is what's ''in'' them, not what they're called. Let's save our controversy-energy for that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::We don't need official guidelines about this. We just need to get out of the bad habit. People have seen the word in so many recent titles that they think it's what you're ''supposed'' to do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::Is it a "bad habit"? Or is it a difference in taste? I see the use of STUFF in a title at best clever, at worst cute. Clearly your tastes are different. Should a user make changes based on their taste? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I chose the word "meritless" because in my view it's the correct word. I'm sorry if you took offense, but for an action to have merit it must be positive and be worthy of support. It's my view that changing STUFF contributions for factual errors or clarity is quite meritous, but changing them simply based on a word that recurs (and in a crusade-like fashion, as you espouse above) isn't entirely positive, and so to me fails to bear merit. All users are allowed to do whatever they like here so long as the community accepts it, and if the community accepts your removal of the word "STUFF" from any and all STUFF titles, then so be it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yes, it's a bad habit. No, it's not clever or cute. If your tastes are different from mine, then by definition it's also a difference in tastes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Jiminy H. Cricket! I find this whole discussion a little bizarre. Granted, I haven't been looking at STUFF titles as long or as often as It's dot com has, so I can imagine how he must have gotten progressively bored, and then mildly irked, and finally kinda touchy about it. On the other hand, I ''do'' think it was clever (at least) the first time it happened, and of course many continue to encounter it for the first time. But the whole thing just seems like such a strange thing for a conversation this long, using words this loaded/and/or/stiltedly civil. On the one hand, I don't personally feel the need to change them. On the other, I don't see why it's a problem if someone does. Your ominous (and seemingly sceptical?) concession, Qermaq, that "if the community accepts [it], then so be it," strikes me as a little odd: I find it really hard to imagine why the community should particularly care. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:27, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I can understand both sides, I know I'd probably get tired of it if I'm doing the paperwork and every title has "STUFF" in it, even if it doesn't really fit that well. On the other hand, I think I'd also be a bit annoyed if I came up with what I thought was a clever STUFF title, and then have somebody come along and arbitrarily change it to exclude "STUFF". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

{| border=1 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- style="background:#EEE"
! TITLE !! DATE
|-
| Oops, I STUFF'd it! || 6/11/2005 4:47
|-
| I'm sorry, the correct answer was STUFF'd || 9/27/2005 23:04
|-
| Wine, Women, and STUFF || 10/24/2005 20:39
|-
| What I'm supposed to do with STUFF? || 11/2/2005 2:07
|-
| Oh-STUFF'd hundred hours || 11/3/2005 21:00
|-
| You say tomater, I zader STUFF'd || 12/10/2005 23:45
|-
| V! V-O! Vote in Stuff! || 12/17/2005 17:22
|-
| First Song on Our STUFF'd Album || 2/5/2006 21:45
|-
| Gonna have a good STUFF tonight! || 2/8/2006 18:34
|-
| A Dirty Hippie Without the STUFF || 3/3/2006 22:46
|-
| This isn't dirt! It's STUFF! || 3/3/2006 23:12
|-
| I STUFF 'em, you vote on 'em || 3/22/2006 17:46
|-
| Jim Henson's STUFF Shop || 3/27/2006 22:06
|-
| Rhythm n' STUFF || 3/28/2006 1:18
|-
| A tuff STUFF || 4/4/2006 20:39
|-
| No problem STUFFing this one || 4/5/2006 4:33
|-
| I'm legally required to STUFF this || 4/11/2006 0:34
|-
| STUFF is no place for a Corn Army! || 4/16/2006 20:20
|-
| More Corny STUFF || 4/16/2006 20:20
|-
| Back to the STUFF || 4/20/2006 16:43
|-
| DEUTSCHSTUFF! || 4/27/2006 13:54
|-
| The Cartman stole some STUFF! || 4/28/2006 0:05
|-
| Uh...Crapstuff? || 4/28/2006 3:22
|-
| I said, come on upside the STUFF* || 5/2/2006 9:25
|-
| The last email that ever was STUFF'd || 5/3/2006 3:41
|-
| STUFF, Gah!* || 5/4/2006 2:59
|-
| It's a common STUFF, see?* || 5/6/2006 21:47
|}
<nowiki>*</nowiki> has since been changed

Notice that half of the items in the list are within the last month. This is the trend I don't personally care for and am trying to curb. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

:Well, just because people don't care for it doesn't mean it does harm. It seems to me that the side that doesn't want these headings thinks of the argument as "why?", whereas the defense thinks of it as "Why not?" This said, we can't really decide which one is right unless we turn to the faithful rule of, um....faithfullness. I guess. And that rule is "If something ain't broke, don't fix it". That said, why would anyone really care? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

::Wow. This is apparently a pet peeve of mine, but that's fine since I'm the one who is willing to put in the effort here. If you don't care, then you don't need to do anything. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm not saying that I'm lazy, and I don't feel like doing it. I don't want to be pictured as that. |What I'm saying is that doing this would be useless, not that nobody would want to do it. Also, wouldn't we normally recieve discussion from the wiki community before we do something like that so quickly? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Um, that's what ''this'' discussion is. As has already been pointed out above, this is not an earth-shattering decision for the wiki; therefore, there's nothing wrong with my simply being bold absent anything to the contrary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:59, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't think we should use STUFF in ALL TITLES. CAPS LOCK IS NOT A HAPPY THING. I mean, it was kinda funny the first time, but, it's old, and REALLY annoying. Why not make titles that inform what we're voting for, not to see who can create the coolest title. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::STUFF is its name. See [[HRWiki:Glossary#S|HRWiki:Glossary]]. It's a holdover from when it was an acronym. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Well Bluebry, the titles usually ''do'' inform you, even when they have STUFF in them. If they don't, well, title's aren't everything. We're not expecting everyone to vote on a fun fact solely based on the info from the header. The actual fun fact at hand is what matters. And y'know, that's what I've been saying all along. '''Why bother'''? Is there really anything bad about these headers other than it's annoying to some people? I rest my case. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Is there anything wrong with having a title that doesn't annoy anyone? I didn't think so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Meh, for something as big as STUFF I think we'd have to have more than just a few people thinking it's annoying to change it. But I'm not the person to decide that. You, as part of the admin team, are to decide that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Just to voice my opinion, I've also noticed this growing trend in STUFF titles. I admit that I've put the word "STUFF" in a title because I was in too much of a hurry to think of a catchy and clever one. But I just figured that no one would really care about the title, just the fact being voted on, which is doubtless the most important part of the STUFF process. However, as time has passed I've gotten a little annoyed at these (to me) seemingly uncreative titles that a person (me included) can just whip together in 5 seconds without even trying. But then again, not all of us have a great sense of humor. For the most part, I don't care about what the titles are, as long as they relate to the fact. But if you want to go on a STUFF-removing crusade to rid the wiki of this deadly and humorless menace, then by all means do. I just hope this doesn't become like the British English vs. American English debate at Wikipedia. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::While they ''are'' humorless, the title doesn't matter too much. Like you said, Has Matt?, the title doesn't actually matter as much as, say, the fact at hand. If we really want to go on a STUFF rampage (I'm on a [[rampage]]!) just to make something slightly funnier, than we can. But shouldn't we be as encyclopaedic as possible, and try to use the least humor we can so this place doesn't look like an online playground for kids? Even if we're documenting, well, a cartoon, we should remain dignified, and not care about these things. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The problem is that whether something is "humorless" is a personal opinion, and it wouldn't exactly make sense to have a policy based on an opinion. Plus, it's sometimes hard to come up with something that's clever. I wouldn't really care all that much if someone wanted to spend his/her time changing the STUFF titles, but I don't think it's a good candidate for an official policy.-[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 01:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Yes, that is a succinct way to summarize last week's discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest STUFF in the World ==

Why was [[STUFF:Strongest Man in the World]] deleted? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:From the deletion log:
::''unanimous consensus to delete outright the item about "believe in yourself and you can achieve anything" being from [[Wikipedia:Rocky|Rocky]]; will restore if anyone comes out in *support* of this item''. (by [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]])
:—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Assuming TTATOT wrongly ==

I believe that the Coach Z "Oliver" fun fact on [[No Hands On Deck]] is being voted incorrectly for the only reason being that someone tried to create a TTATOT just by trying to draw a connection between Oliver and Annie, two of the more famous movie musicals, without voting on whether the fact is valid. I have said this much on the page, and if this fact is voted down I reserve the right to contest the decline, based solely on the fact that someone created a TTATOT when one didn't exist, and the point that the factual basis for the entry was not taken into consideration when the decline votes were cast. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
:I don't see anything irregular about the vote. I don't believe support for either side of the issue is snowballing based on any one argument, but even if it were, people are within their rights to decide whether a particular argument is legitimate or not and vote accordingly. None of the arguments are unreasonable, even if you don't agree with them all. Given that the vote is still open, you should be concentrating your efforts in persuading people there instead of here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
::I said all that could be said on the page, dot com. I notice, for now, that the accepts have it for the moment. And I think that two of the three arguments against are valid. The first one (the one that created the TTATOT) had nothing to do with the perceived legitimacy of the fact, and should not have had anything to do with how people voted. I believe it had more to do with the no votes than any of the others, and I'm not changing my mind on that. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I disagree that you have said all that you could say, otherwise you wouldn't have posted here in the first place. Moreover, whether or not you agree with the argument, it is still a legitimate argument, and people have the choice to believe it or not believe it as they see fit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
::::How is it a legitimate argument if it has nothing to do with the basis of the fun fact? The other three (since there's been one added) do. This one doesn't, as it discusses the fame of ''Annie'' and ''Oliver!'' rather than discussing the fact itself. That has nothing to do with the "factuality", for that matter, of the fact. Just because an argument is considered legitimate by some doesn't mean it is. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::This talk page is for discussing the general STUFF process, and we have done that. If you would like to discuss the specific merits of that particular argument in detail, then you need to take it to the comments section of the STUFF item. You should also note that just because you don't think the argument is legitimate doesn't mean that it ''isn't''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::And just because you think it is doesn't mean it is. Most STUFF arguments are legitimate. Most stuff arguments have something to do with the factuality of the fact. This one doesn't. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Again, I would be happy to discuss that with you, but ''here'' is not the correct place. Take it to the comments section of the STUFF item. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Numbering arguments ==

I numbered the arguments on [[STUFF:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2#From my cold, dead panda!|this item]] to make it easier to follow. Is this a worthwile permanent change? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I think so. It's not uncommon to have arguments or comments start with "re arg against 1", so numbering them is useful.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::Hey, yeah! I'd thought of doing something like that myself a while back, but for whatever reason never got around to actually devising how it would have been done other than that it would have been with colors, but numbers work too. Makes it much easier to follow than having to click through all the past revisions to see what's being said in reference to whom. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Archives ==

Shouldn't the STUFF archives be in the STUFF namespace rather than HRWiki? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
:Possibly. Remember, the STUFF namespace didn't exist when we first set this up, so we did the best we could with what we had at the time. I also don't think we should look lightly on the headache it would be to move them (though, ultimately, that can't be the only consideration). In fact, I can see pros and cons for both moving them and leaving them like it are. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::It just seems kind of silly to have a namespace for (at current) nine pages. I guess they are "meta" pages, so they fit in HRWiki as well. As far as moving them, couldn't that just be run through GrapeNuts? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it might could be done by bot, but probably not GrapeNuts, which has been offline for a while now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::::D'oh! I should've known that. Hmmm... then I wonder whose, if any. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== What section ==

I'm thinking maybe underneath Posted on we could say Posted in: (the section it was in) so we could know what kind of fact we're voting on in case someone thinks a remark is an inside reference (example:[[Stuff:Eggs (toon)]]) --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:Or maybe there should also be a vote for which section... (i'd think that optional though, as some facts are more clear cut than others.) But i like the idea. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::In the case you mention, it was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Eggs_%28toon%29&diff=449482&oldid=444446 added as a remark}} and then moved twice without much notice, largely because of the relative obscurity of the toon itself. Obviously, it should not have been moved, and we could have saved a lot of trouble by taking it to the toon's talk page first instead of throwing it right into STUFF. In fact, if the question is ''where'' to note something (as opposed to ''whether'' to note it, then the talk page is almost always a better place to have the discussion. As for STUFF, in cases where it's not clear, it's usually noted in the comments what section an item is supposed to go in. The vast majority of the time of the time, though, it's pretty clear where something goes, so it's not really necessary to change the whole format to note it for every item, and continuing on a case-by-case basis is still probably easiest. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== Change in practice ==

Of late, our practice as it relates to STUFF has clearly changed, in that we now tend to use it as a last resort if talk page discussion fails to produce a clear consensus. I think this is a good thing, as discussion is better than voting in collaborative projects like this. I think it would be wise to note this on the project page so that people are aware of how we're using STUFF these days (after all, it's a real pain to make a new STUFF page and then have it moved to the talk page). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:It was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASTUFF%2FAbout&diff=438035&oldid=395876 changed a few months ago}} on the [[HRWiki:STUFF/About#STUFFing vs. Deleting|when should we use it?]] page — do you think it should be stated prominently on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|main STUFF page]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:28, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::It would probably be good, but where exactly to put it I'm not sure. I'm also thinking that About page might still need some tweaks, too. Parts of it seem to imply that you can either add/remove a fact or put it to STUFF, with no mention of talk page discussion. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Only bottommost vote counts? ==

Umm, I don't see why that should be. Imagine a case where both revisions are acceptable, and the person doesn't particularly care which one it is, because the wording doesn't matter, all that matters is the substance. if s/he votes yes on only one, and that one gets voted down, there's now one less vote on the other one, when s/he would accept the other one also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:If the substance is the same, then there's no point in creating a whole new revision. In those cases, the item just gets reworded as discussed in the comments section. Revisions are for when there is something substantially different about the way an item is presented. If you truly do not care how it is written, then you should pile on to the one with the most support. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
::Meh, that's how it ''should'' be, but there have been cases when the "keep" vote has been split between similar items. Not that I have a solution. :p {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it's not like we don't watch out for this. If there is ever a case where it really matters (and there hasn't been one in a long time), where it's obvious an item would be accepted if the two sides could get together, then we try to hash out a compromise version or sway opinions to one or the other or something. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

==Titles==
What's with those humorous titles? [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 05:35, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:Just for fun. Also makes it easy to identify a particular STUFF discussion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:37, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Tagging this as a "last resort" ==

In recent months, we've tended to use STUFF less and less. This is a good thing: more talk page discussion and less straight voting is much more consistent with the wiki way of consensus-seeking. I suggest that we consider making this a guideline for the page by adding something to the effect of "This page should be used as a last resort. Before using it, attempt discussion on the talk page." {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

== STUFF ==

You have a "STUFF:" namespace, but it is unused. I am going to move all pages from the HRWiki: namespace into the STUFF: namespace. --{{User:Dagoth/sig}} 06:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Why would you do that?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think he may mean such pages as "over STUFF'd" and "Old STUFF" and the like, that exist on the HRWIKI namespace. {{User:Flashfight/sig}} 06:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:The STUFF namespace is where actual open STUFF'd facts go. Since there are none currently, it appears unused. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== Decommission ==

STUFF had a good run. As a wiki, however, we've matured to the point that fun fact discussions can be handled where they should be: on the toon's talk page. For a long time now, we've been encouraging discussion there rather than invoking the STUFF process, and it's been several months since STUFF was last used. I think the time has come to officially decommission it, and I move that we do exactly that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Normally, I would agree with you. We have started to avoid using this page and just talk about the facts until we reach a consensus. But, I am afraid that as soon as we decommission this page, it will be needed again. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 21:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::We haven't needed [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] since we decommissioned it. It's hard to imagine a wiki without STUFF, but if you look at it, that's exactly what we've had all this time the past few months. I can't really conceive that there'd be a sudden need for STUFF any time soon. As is said, we've moved beyond the STUFF phase, and now engage in true talk page discussion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Sure, [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts#I don't think we need STUFF anymore|I don't think we need STUFF anymore]]. Though of course, it's gone through quite a [[User:It's dot com/STUFF reform|change]] to get it where it is today since the last time I said that. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::To be fair, the reason we haven't needed WikiTroll is because we have more sysops who are online more often than when WikiTroll was in wide use. As for STUFF? It used to be the first resort; now it seems a last resort at best. Not sure exactly when that happened, but it did. It was essentially necessary when it was created. Now? Not so sure. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::We've progressed to the point that pretty much everything can be handled directly, and civilly, on the talk page, which has made a centralized STUFF obsolete. If a discussion isn't visible enough (because it's from an older toon, say), it could be listed on the [[HRW:OD|open discussions]] page. To address Super Martyo's concern, in some worst case we might have some fun fact where we simply cannot reach a consensus and have to hold a vote as a last resort, but even then the vote could be conducted on the talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I completely agree with decomissioning STUFF. I've felt it's obsolete for several months now, largely per what It's dot com has already said. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::STUFF has never been a constructive place. It has always been somewhat of a conversation killer, and even if people did post a lot of comments on a particular STUFF page, it was never a proper discussion. I'm all for decommissioning it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Considering there hasn't been a STUFFed fact in months, decommissioning sounds acceptable. If stuff (heh heh) suddenly comes up, you can restore it then. — {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 01:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Beach Volleyball

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:08:10 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Support the move. This page is empty, man.

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:46:04 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Inside References */ Link to soon to be deleted redirect page. I changed it to go directly to Blubb-O's.

{{mamnav|15|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2|Version 14.2|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0|Version 1.0}}
[[Image:Mam15pernt2.png|thumb|"That's right, I pronounced it 'ad-VER-tis-ments'!"]]

The King of Town threatens to reveal Marzipan's secrets, Homestar chases blondes, Bubs looks for women, Coach Z wants a backup singer, The Cheat leaves a prank call, and Marzipan's questionable surgeon wants to use a photo in an advertisement.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[Unseen Characters#Heard|Questionable Surgeon]], [[Lord Quackingstick]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Movie Theater]] (Easter egg)

'''Release Date:''' Monday, February 25, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:30

'''Page Title:''' Marzipan's Answering Machine

== Transcript ==
=== Marzipan's Greeting ===
'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, this is Marzipan. I'm currently drowning in the abyss, but please leave me a message anyway. ''{beep}''

=== Message 6 ===
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{angrily}'' Well, well, well, Miss Marzithang, any idea why Strong Bad's been goin' around calling me a "stankwad", or why the Bubs keeps referring to me as a "wad in the grass"? Hmm? Any idea? Maybe because you told everybody that my middle name is Wad?! That was supposed to be our secret! I thought we had a deal. Well, don't blame me if all of a sudden your questionable voluntary surgery becomes public knowledge! The Wad is out!

=== Message 5 ===
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh hello, yes, middle of our conversation? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just met with him. Oh yeah, he's ''real'' famous. Rich. Rich with money. How many? Five? Five's good. ''{whispering}'' Psst! Sorry, Marzipan. I had to perpetrate like I was talking, ''{normal volume}'' on account of this hot blonde thing walked by. Purple dress, broomstick style. Oh yeah, you're jealous. Yeah, what? No, he's ''half'' robot.

=== Message 4 ===
'''BUBS:''' Hey Marzipan, it's the Bubs. Say, uh, do you know any other women around here? I mean, you're not exactly my type, and I need somebody to go to the movies with. It's getting desperate! I'll take anything at this point— lady duck, lady pine cone, lady pillow. I gotta go to the movies with somebody! So if you know of any kind of lady item, put in a good word for ol' Bubs. And tell 'em they'll get 10% off at the concession stand! ''{quickly, as the following words appear onscreen}'' Discount will not be honored!

=== Message 3 ===
'''COACH Z:''' ''{with hip-hop beat playing in background}'' Hey, yo, Marz-ay! Coach Z, all up in the stujo. Just cut my new record, want you to be a sassy high-pitched background singer on this new track! Maybe sing a-like: "Word of mouth!" Or maybe like we sampled you from an old '70s disca tape, and you say: "You ain't the type of man that you used to be!" Basically want to just get you up in the stujo, which is kind of a cardboard box, with a micoraphone in it, not plugged in. Uh... maybe like, disregard... that last part. I'm out, peace, love!

=== Message 2 ===
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, he says you're a face. A facewich. Like a face ''witch'', like rides a broomstick? Or a facewich like between two pieces of bread?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're a facewich and blow up your house.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{frustrated The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your nose! Blow up your nose.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Epsom salt?! The Cheat, are you sure that's the direction you wanna go with this prank call?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, gnawing noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now, you're just gnawing on the phone. Gimme that! I'll show you how it's done. ''{quickly}'' Marzipan, this is Dean Prankcaller from the You're Gross Institute calling to ask you to come speak at our graduation ceremony. If you're interested, please walk into the bathroom and stare at your gross face until you make yourself puke. Thank you, the end, very much. ''{normally}'' Now that's a prank call! ''{more gnawing noises}'' Ugh...

=== Message 1 ===
'''QUESTIONABLE SURGEON:''' Mmmmmm yes, hello, Miss Marzipan. This is your questionable surgeon. We were just calling to ask if we could use the before and after photos from your ''{photos appear; the "before" photo shows Marzipan with a large nose and the "after" photo shows her as usual}'' questionable voluntary surgery in one of our advertisements ''{pronounced as "ad-VER-tis-ments"}''. Yes, that's right, I pronounced it "ad-VER-tis-ments".

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:MAM 15 Easter Egg.PNG|thumb|"I'm having a great time!"]]
*Click on the number display after the final message to see Bubs at the movies.
:''{Bubs is at the movies with Lord Quackingstick, who has a blonde wig. Part of Strong Bad's head is visible in another seat.}''
:'''BUBS:''' I gotta tell ya, Lady Quackingstick, I'm having a great time at the movies!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Lady Quackingstick, in a sultry voice}'' Quack, quack!

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This answering machine has a new loading screen, showing a corner of Marzipan's table rather than the old spinning Homestar Runner logo.

===Remarks===
*The Main Page, toons links and the cartoon itself were added some time before the page was made, so users were met with a "404'd" message for the first few hours after the update. However, it was viewable by looking at the Flash file.
*"Republic of Wad" was mentioned one week earlier as a country of manufacture of unlicensed merchandise in [[licensed]].
*Bubs seems to have elbows again, as seen in the Easter egg at the end. In [[Bubs Evolution|recent appearances]], Bub's arms have been drawn without elbows and instead have been animated as a single object, giving his arms a tentacle-like appearance.
*The buttons on the answering machine can still be pressed even while the before and after images are blocking them.

===Goofs===
*The Answering Machine button in the Toons menu still links to Answering Machine 14.2.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When the toon was released, the Toons menu listed this toon as being released in 2007; this was changed to 2008 later that day.

===Inside References===
*[[Ducks]], [[Bread]], [[Robots]], and [[Puking]] are mentioned.
*Lord Quackingstick appeared first in [[portrait]].
*Bubs' dilemma refers to the fact that Marzipan is [[The Only Girl|the only female main character]].
*The Cheat [[The Cheat Gnawing|gnaws]] on the phone.
*Judging by the way he speaks and says "Mmmmmm," the questionable surgeon may have been the [[Generic Announcers|announcer]] who advertised the [[Blubb-O's|Spicy Crispy Chicken Melt]] in [[nightlife]].
*Coach Z's studio is a [[cardboard box]].
*Homestar mentions the hot blonde's "broomstick [[style]]".
*The pictures from Marzipan's surgery purport to explain her [[Lack of Visible Body Parts|lack of a visible nose]].

===Real-World References===
*The phrase "perpetrate like I was talkin'" is from the 1989 rap song "[[Wikipedia:Parents Just Don't Understand|Parents Just Don't Understand]]" by [[Wikipedia:DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince|DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince]].

==External Links==

*[[HR:answer15.html|watch "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2"]]
*[[HR:answer15.swf|view the Flash file for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2"]]
*[[Forum:13654|forum thread re: "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2"]]

{{Marzipan's Answering Machine}}

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Where's an Egg?

Geshmalderborgen — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:00:49 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Strategy */ Removed weasel word. "Usually, they are often?"

{{vgamenav|wheresanegg|50k Racewalker|Duck Guardian One}}

[[Image:wheresanegg.PNG|thumb|A renegade cop with nothing to lose and an egg on his mind.]]
[[Image:Where'sAnEggboxart.png‎|thumb|Where's an Egg? box art. Где – Яйцо?]]
''"In this hard-bolied  adventure game, you must help the Boise police force find a missing egg. Not in Mancuso's garage? Try Brodermaker's gymbag. Everyone's a suspect when 'Where's an Egg?' is the game that you are playing. And that's this game!!"'' -[[Videlectrix]]

'''Where's an Egg?''' is a game by [[Videlectrix]].

'''Date:''' Monday, July 16, 2007

'''Page Title:''' Where's an Egg?

==Instructions==
The object of the game is to find an egg that one of the suspects is hiding. The task is a variation on the [[Wikipedia:Knights and Knaves|Knights and Knaves]] puzzle, in which suspects either always lie or always tell the truth. After you think you know who or where an egg is, you go to that location and shoot the suspect, who will give up an egg if you have guessed correctly.

After clicking on the title screen, you are presented with several locations in a city. Clicking on the thumbnails will take you to those locations, at which you will encounter a suspect with an item. From the menu at the bottom of the screen, you can choose one of any of the items or suspects you've encountered. When you choose an item, the suspect will tell you the location where that item can be found or the suspect who has it. When you choose a suspect from your menu, the character on the screen will tell you where that suspect can be found or what item they have. Once again, they may or may not be telling the truth.

There are three other notable replies you may receive. If you ask a suspect about himself or about the items he carries, he will respond with a [[Wikipedia:smiley|smiley face]]. If you ask a suspect about anything after shooting him, he will respond with a red cross. Also, if you ask a suspect about an egg and he replies with a question mark, he does not have any information about the location of an egg.

== Strategy ==
Since a given suspect either always lies or always tells the truth, their reply about the location of an egg can be tested by asking them questions to which you know the answer. For example, if they give you information about an egg, you can ask them about an item and verify that the location or suspect with which they reply indeed corresponds to that item. If the answer they give is correct, then the location of an egg that they give is correct as well.

The above method can be modified by first asking about the first person or item you have seen, then if the suspect answers correctly, ask about an egg. Continue asking all the suspects the same question until you find a person who gives a correct answer and knows about an egg. If none are found, revisit your first person and ask about an egg. Then simply find the culprit and shoot them.

In some cases, a lying suspect may reveal themselves as such by giving the same answer for two different questions (e.g., suggesting that two different characters have a potted plant) or, due to a programming error, even answering with their own face when questioned about a different item.

Another strategy is to ask every suspect the location of an egg until you have two replies that agree. In that case, it is likely, though not certain, that the suspect they incriminate indeed has an egg.

In order to keep accurate track of which person matches which object, just quickly visit all of the locations before asking anyone a question. This will cause each person and their object to appear in the same order at the bottom of the screen. Once you have visited all locations, start asking each person where an egg is. Once you find someone who replies, figure out if they are a truth-teller or a liar by seeing if their responses properly match up people to their object. If they are a truth-teller, move on to asking about an egg. If they tell the truth, you know who has an egg.

However, one haphazard strategy is to simply shoot three random people. This gives a 1 in 3 chance of winning, with no real effort.

Usually, if a suspect you know is lying accuses another person, they are the culprit.

== Suspects, locations, and items ==
Suspects, locations, and items are randomly assigned for each game.
===Suspects===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Blonde Woman.png | <center>Blonde woman</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Blue Hat.png | <center>Blue hat man</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png | <center>Butcher</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Butler.png | <center>Butler</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - John.png | <center>[[John McEnroe]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Mechanic.png | <center>Mechanic </center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Old Lady.png | <center>Old Woman</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png | <center>Red-haired boy</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Red Hat.png | <center>Red hat man</center>
</gallery>

===Locations===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Aquarium.png | <center>Aquarium</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Theater.png | <center>Art museum</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Museum.png | <center>Bank</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Beach.png | <center>Beach</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Pier.png | <center> Bridge</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - City.png | <center> City</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Desert.png | <center> Desert</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Siberia.png | <center> Siberia</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Forest.png | <center> Park</center>
</gallery>

===Items===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Egg.png | <center>An [[egg]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Beer.png | <center>[[Alcohol|Beer]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Bomb.png | <center>Bomb</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Cat.png | <center>Cat</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Duffel.png | <center>Gym bag</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Pencil.png | <center>Pencil</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Plant.png | <center>Potted plant</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Slingshot.png | <center>Slingshot</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Strawberry.png | <center>Strawberry</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Wrench.png | <center>Wrench</center>
</gallery>

== Endings ==
[[Image:Where's an egg loose screen.PNG|thumb|Lose screen]]
If you run out of time or shoot three characters who do not have an egg, the game ends. The character who did have an egg is shown running with it through the area they were in, and the main character is shown in Siberia wearing prison clothes and a ball-and-chain. He quickly turns into a skeleton.

[[Image:Where's an egg win screen.PNG|thumb|left|Win screen]]
If you successfully reclaim an egg, a uniformed man (probably [[Wikipedia:Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]) awards you with a badge in front of [[Wikipedia:Lenin's Mausoleum|Lenin's Mausoleum]]. The screen pans up to the sky, where fireworks shoot off. If the game was completed with enough time left on the clock, different spaceships fly through the sky:
*901–940 seconds left — one spaceship
*941–970 seconds left — two spaceships
*971 or more seconds left — three spaceships, the last of which is exited by a cosmonaut

{{clear}}

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This game was released more than two and a half years after its description was featured on the Videlectrix website. The [[main page message]] announcing its release read: '''new' videlectrix game!''
*The language used in the game is [[wikipedia:Russian language|Russian]], and is understandable to a native speaker, although there are various grammatical and stylistic errors (see [[#Translations|Translation section]]).
*After shooting someone who does not have an egg, you can still question them and they will reply with the symbol for the [[Wikipedia:International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement|Red Cross]] (indicating they require medical attention). The Red Cross has recently been [http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=016637&tid=001 trying to stop game creators from using their logo this way].
*In every game, there are either three or four suspects who tell the truth, and either three or four suspects who will give an answer when asked about an egg. Three is more common in both cases. 
*Each suspect has a theme song that plays when you visit them.
**If a suspect talks about another person, that person's theme plays in the right speaker.
**If you ask about another person, that person's theme plays in the left speaker.
**If you shoot a suspect, their theme song volume is lowered.
**The victory music is all of the suspects' themes played on top of each other.
*Where's an Egg? is shown on a [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy disk]] in the introductions for [[strongbad_email.exe]] Discs [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three|Three]] and [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Five]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:Eggpage2.jpg|thumb|Page 13 of the instruction manual]]
*A [[Videlectrix:eggction.html|page of the manual]] was also made available at the same time as the game was released.
*Although the Videlectrix description suggests that an egg may be in "Mancuso's garage", a garage is not one of the locations in the game, although there is a mechanic.

===Goofs===
*For the first second of the game, the timer reads 000, when its true value is 999. One second later, it changes to 998. If you manage to win in that first second, it will read 999 on the victory screen.
*The game has a check to prevent liars from replying with their own picture, item, or location, but a programming error allows them to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs.

===Glitches===
*If you shoot the last bullet at the wrong person right before time is up, when the clock runs to 000, you will be presented with a win screen with the perpetrator sliding across the screen, plus the lose screen in Siberia, then presented with a medal.

===Inside References===
*This is another mention of [[eggs]] and [[alcohol]].
*The main character wields a [[gun]].
*All of the suspects [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack visible arms]].
*[[Some Type of Online Auction]] was previously used to sell a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[english paper]].
*The red-haired boy shares several features with both [[Kid Speedy]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]] from [[Peasant's Quest]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Boise, Idaho|Boise]] is the capital city of the US state [[Wikipedia:Idaho|Idaho]].
*Brodermaker is a reference to video game company [[Wikipedia:Brøderbund|Brøderbund]], makers of the [[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] games.
**This game is also very similar, in some aspects, to the early Carmen Sandiego games.
*The music at the beginning of the game accompanying the Videlectrix logo is from the traditional Russian [[Wikipedia:The Volga Boatmen's Song|Song of the Volga Boatmen]].
*The three spacecraft that fly across the screen in the ending sequence are [[Wikipedia:Sputnik 1|Sputnik 1]], [[Wikipedia:Vostok 1|Vostok 1]], and [[Wikipedia:Voskhod 2|Voskhod 2]], commemorating three "firsts" of the Russian space program: the first artificial satellite, the [[Wikipedia:Yuri Gagarin|first man in space]], and the [[Wikipedia:Aleksei Leonov|first spacewalk]], respectively.
**The congratulation scene is reminiscent of the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy|Game Boy]] and [[Wikipedia:NES|NES]] versions of [[Wikipedia:Tetris|Tetris]] (a game that is famous for having come out of Russia), in which the player was shown rocket and shuttle launches of spacecraft at the end of a game depending on how well the player did.
*Gameplay bears certain superficial similarities to the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]], being a [[Wikipedia:Whodunit|whodunit]] wherein a specific accusation must be formulated from a set of distinct suspects, items and locations.
*The scene where the main character is stuck in icy mountains with a ball and chain is a reference to the old Russian practice of [[Wikipedia:Gulag|exiling criminals]] to [[Wikipedia:Siberia|Siberia]], which is a cold, mountainous region of Russia.

===Translations===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Location !! Message !! Transliteration !! Translation !! Notes
|-
| Loading screen || телевизионный электрический || televizzionniy elektricheskii || Videlectrix || ''Literally:'' "televisual electric"
|-
| Title || Где – Яйцо? || Gde Yaitso? || Where's an egg? || Russian has no article, so it is impossible to make a distinction between "the egg" and "an egg" and the title could refer to either. The dash in the title is incorrect; such a dash is only used to separate a predicate from a noun phrase (an action from an object) instead of the present tense of the verb "to be", which does not exist in Russian.
|-
| Inscription above the columns of the gray building || Берег || Bereg || Bank || The word has the sense of "riverbank", as opposed to a financial service institution, which would be "банк" (Bank). Furthermore, the game mistakenly uses a capital "R" instead of the Cyrillic "г", which resembles a lowercase "r".
|-
| When you discover who had an egg || виновник || vinovnik || criminal ''or'' guilty person ||
|-
| rowspan="2" | When you win the game || поздравление || pozdravlenie || congratulations || Although English speakers often use the noun "Congratulations," a Russian would probably have used a verb: "I congratulate you with your victory." The verb is often dropped entirely from such phrases, leaving only "with your victory."
|-
| ЛЕНИН || LENIN || [[Wikipedia:Vladimir Lenin|Lenin]] || An entrance to [[Wikipedia:Lenin's Mausoleum|Lenin's Mausoleum]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | When you lose || гулаг || gulag || [[Wikipedia:Gulag|Gulag]] || The name given to the Soviet labor camps
|-
| игра законченный || igra zakonchenniy || game over || This phrase is incorrect due to misuse of gender (nouns have genders in Russian). Grammatically correct phrase would read "игра закончена" (igra zakonchena).
|}

==External Links==
*[[Videlectrix:wheresanegg.html|Play Where's an Egg?]]
*[[Videlectrix:egg7.swf|Play Where's an Egg? (Flash file)]]
*[[Videlectrix:eggction.html|View the auction for the instructions]]
*[[Forum:11947|forum thread re: "Where's An Egg?"]]
{{subtitlesLinks|wheresanegg}}
{{VidelectrixGames}}
[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

slumber party

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:15:49 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: I think the {Cut to ...} every time a different character speaks are unnecessary.

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[[Image:Slumber party sega tapes.png|thumb|200px|"Whoa! Jackpot!"]]

Strong Bad gives slumber party advice.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar Runner's House]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, October 1, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:11

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Gary... I hope this email's from Gary... ''{The email comes up}'' Hah! Aw...

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: slumber parties</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
I attended a slumber party and there was nothing but a 
lame game of Uno. I ask you, what types of slumber 
parties should one attend or ignore? 
Sincerely, 
Thomas O. from NY
</blockquote>
''{Strong Bad reads NY as en-why}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So it was just you and Uno? Like, no other people or sleeping bags or R-rated movies? Uh, you probably shoulda skipped that one. Family card games are notorious for hosting the worst slumber parties.

''{Cut to Strong Bad sitting at a table with his eyes half closed. There is a deck of cards sitting across from him on the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{flatly}'' Thanks for inviting me, Skip-Bo.

''{Cut back to the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears screen}'' But let's say you get invited to a slumber party by a carbon based lifeform. The first thing you wanna look at is the popularity of the host.

''{Cut to a blackboard with "COOLGUY's LAW:" and a face wearing a mortar board drawn on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' According to Coolguy's Law, the popularity of the host is inversely proportional to the amount of fun you can have at their house.

''{As he speaks, the formula appears on the blackboard. Cut back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You got nothing to lose! You can tear that place apart and dislocate all the younger siblings' shoulders you want. It's not like you're ever going back there again.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner's bedroom. Homestar and Strong Bad are there, and there are sledgehammers embedded in the walls. Strong Bad is holding a sledgehammer.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What did you say the name of this family card game was again, Strong Bad?

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is called Find The Load-Bearer. You never played this before?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No. Find The Load-Bearer, Bed Axe, ''{Cut to Homestar's bed, which has two axes embedded in it}'' I never heard of any of these games we played.

''{Strong Bad throws another axe into the bed. Cut back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Unpopular kids' dads definitely still play video games, so try and locate—

''{Cut to Strong Bad reaching into Homestar's dresser and pulling out some games}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —his stash of Rated M for Mature titles.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Jackpot! ''{Holds up a game with a skull in a bloodstain on the cover}'' Blood Bleeder, ''{Holds up a game with the disembodied heads of two men and a dog on the cover}'' Head Chopper 2, ''{Holds up a game with a laser shooting at some disembodied scabs on the cover}'' Scab Wars, ''{Holds up a game with a blistered hand and a ghost holding a chainsaw on the cover}'' Blistergeist? Most of these things have been taken off the market!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. Those are off-limits. We're only allowed to play Clapping Party.

''{Homestar plays Clapping Party, which consists of two hands against a blue background. They clap three times, and the words "ROUND CLEAR" appear against a red background with confetti. Several hands rapidly appear at the bottom of the screen. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The next thing to consider when going to a slumber party is the menu.

''{Cut to a blue screen with the words "TYPICAL SLUMBER PARTY FARE" at the top and a boy's head at the bottom. As Strong Bad talks, the things he describes appear, and the boy gets fatter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Typical party food includes things like, six-foot party sub, an exorbitant amount of pizza, and at least enough Skittles and red cream soda to make your spit hurt.

''{The boy sticks out his tongue, which is bumpy and rainbow colored. A rainbow drool-drop forms. Cut to a table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But if you get over there, ''{Strong Bad falls from the sky}'' and they're, like, having a meal at a table, and they're serving, like...

''{A chicken leg in a pan moves towards Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{uncertain voice}'' Chicken... in a pan? ''{A plate moves towards Strong Bad and salad appears on it}'' With some... salad... ''{A glass of milk pours from the top of the screen}'' and a... glass of milk? To drink?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' You better start running! ''{Strong Bad runs}'' Because that family must have some serious health problems.

''{Cut back to the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But if you're looking for a guaranteed good time, you need to get invited to an OLDER KID'S slumber party. Anything goes at those things!

''{Cut to Coach Z's locker room. Pan from Bubs to Coach Z to the King of Town}''

'''BUBS:''' My cousin Louis, he's dead. My cousin Harold, he's dead.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{Overlapping}'' And my back still hurts. And my knees still hurt.

'''KING OF TOWN:''' ''{Overlapping}'' Government ain't right! Government ain't right!

'''BUBS:''' So my escrow carried over into my lumbago, but then my sciatica started acting up.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, can you guys start using words that were invented ''after'' the year nineteen-oh-zero?

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Come now, young whipper-snapper. My fellows and I were just about to start playing at games of chance. ''{Holds up some dice and shakes them}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lemme guess. That ''doesn't'' include Bed Axe. ''{Holds up an axe}''

''{Cut back to the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Uh, you might wanna put a cap on what you define as "older kids." Other than that, you can look always forward to endlessly ridiculing the kid that got picked up early 'cause he misses his mom. Strong Sad used to do that when we'd have slumber parties in our own basement!

''{Cut to a wide shot. Strong Sad is standing nearby with his arm in a sling}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That only happened once!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{nodding}'' Uh-huh...

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{reluctantly}'' A week...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Keep going.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{very reluctantly}'' For ten years...

'''STRONG BAD:''' There you go!

''{He turns back to the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, and one more thing: If your jim-jams happen to be a, oh, I dunno, long V-neck undershirt with a pair of questionable tighty-whities underneath, maybe don't wear those to the slumber party. Don't ask me how I know this. Please, PLEASE, ''{hangs head}'' DON'T ASK ME HOW I KNOW THIS.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen, mocking voice}'' How do you know that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's it! Allow me to relieve you of that located shoulder! Yah!

''{Strong Bad jumps off his chair and offscreen. Strong Sad yells. [[New Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "questionable" at the end to play [[Clapping Party]]. If you play the game twice, it unlocks "Blistergeist" mode, which involves a ghost in a hockey mask attacking the hands with a chainsaw, causing blisters to appear on them.
*Click on "slumber party" at the end to watch Homestar's Slumber Party dance.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Party! Slumber party! Listen to some Sade at my slumber party!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*According to Coolguy's law, the more popular the host of the slumber party, the less fun you will have at their house.
*"Rated M for Mature" refers to the [[Wikipedia:ESRB|ESRB]] rating system, which uses letters to indicate what age group a video game is best suited for.

===Trivia===
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#heart of china|heart of china]]".

===Remarks===
*When Strong Bad says, "find the [[wikipedia:Structural load|load bearer]]," he is referring to a [[wikipedia:Wall stud|stud]], although in a typical wood-framed house, most vertical studs bear an equal load.
*When Strong Bad is playing "Find The Load-Bearer", he is seen holding a sledgehammer. However, once the camera has panned across to the bed, Strong Bad throws an axe into the bed from offscreen.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Disconnected.png|100px|thumb|Disconnected legs.]]
*When Homestar is dancing in the Easter egg, his legs are occasionally disconnected.
*When Strong Bad says Gary a second time, his reflection moves more than his head when he says the "G" in gary.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad, the inventor of "Coolguy's law," is referred to as Prof. Tor Coolguy in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*The pizza boxes are from [[The Pizz]] introduced in [[pizza joint]], only now labeled "Slumber Party [[Style]]" instead of "Neighborhood Style".
**[[:Image:headlessdance.gif|Homestar's dance]] from his Easter egg is also based on an Easter egg seen in pizza joint.
*When Strong Bad is looking in the closet for M-rated games, we can see some [[Sega tapes]], reading "Throat Rip" and "Saliva Quest".
*Some of the games have [[blood]].
*This email mentions [[underwear]].
*Blistergeist is a [[portmanteau]].
*R-rated movies were previously mentioned in conjunction with a sleepover in [[the bet]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Uno (game)|Uno]] and [[Wikipedia:SKIP-BO|SKIP-BO]] are card games owned by [[Wikipedia:Mattel|Mattel]].
*[[Wikipedia:Skittles (confectionery)|Skittles]] are a small, fruit-flavored candy produced by [[Wikipedia:Mars, Inc.|Mars, Inc.]]
*The T-shirt Homestar is wearing during the Easter egg is identical to the one Michael Jackson wears in the "Beat It" video. This shirt was also seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*Blistergeist is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Splatterhouse|Splatterhouse]], the most notable reference being the goalie mask.
*Blood Bleeder is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Blood (computer game)|Blood]]. The game boxes also look similar.
*The tune Homestar sings during the Easter egg is the jingle from the TV advertisement for the 1987 Parker Brothers' board game "Pizza Party," which he also sings during an identical Easter egg in the previous email, [[pizza joint]].
*In the Easter egg, Homestar mentions listening to [[Wikipedia:Sade (band)|Sade]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|180|12563}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

flag day

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:05:46 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: I'm not sure if this is needed. I think most people know the normal use for an X-acto knife.

{{sbenav|32}}

[[Image:sbemail32.PNG|thumb|Our national colors]]

Pablo wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 17, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 2:03

'''Page Title:''' TANDY 400!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Riballa diballa check e-mail.''{stops singing}''

<blockquote class="tandy email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
Happy Flag Day! I bet you have a totally awesome 
flag for Strong Badia. You should share it with us. 
 
Your pal, 
Pablo 
Phoenix</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads the last two lines as "Pablo Phoenix".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you sound like some kind of popstar, man. Look Out Ladies Production presents: Pablo Phoenix, this Friday at the civic center. ''{typing}'' Anyways, Pablo. Happy Flag Day to you too, man. It just so happens Strong Badia has about the coolest flag you ever saw. ''{His voice starts echoing a lot, like he's speaking in front of a really large crowd}'' Would everyone please rise for the presentation of our national colors.

''{The Cheat is standing beside the flag pole and pulls up the flag of Strong Badia. The flag has three horizontal stripes, one red, one white, and one brown. In the middle, there's a picture of a green snake with the word "Snake" handwritten over its body, holding a knife in its tail and crawling through a tire. The Cheat starts playing on [[The Cheat's Keyboard|his keyboard]].}''

=== Strong Badia National Anthem ===

''{spoken}'' (Oh... Oh, I like that! Oh yeah!)

''{singing}'' Come to the place where tropical breezes blow.

Come to the coolest place I know.

The people are so great,

But really there's only me,

And that means I'm so great,

And also there's The Cheat.

Oh there's The Cheat in the place where the tropical breezes blow.

The Cheat in the coolest place I know.

The ones are always cold,

And the parties last all night,

And there's probably lots of chocolate,

And population tire.

''{falsetto voice }'' Population...Ti-i-i-ire

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*When Strong Bad starts talking about Pablo's name you can click on it to see a mock-ticket for an event with [[Limozeen]]. It reads:
{| style="text-align: center; border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid black" cellpadding="3"
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black" colspan="2" | $ 94.00
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black" | 227
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black" | 18
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black" | 43
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black" | $ 94.00
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black; border-left: 1px dashed black; text-align: left" rowspan="2" | Pablo PHX
| style="background: white; font-family: monospace; color: black; border-left: 1px dashed black" rowspan="3" | 178394749406 {barcode}
|-
| style="background: #db93b7; font: bold 100% sans-serif; color: #069" colspan="2" | Money
| style="background: #db93b7; font: bold 100% sans-serif; color: #069" | Section
| style="background: #db93b7; font: bold 100% sans-serif; color: #069" | Row
| style="background: #db93b7; font: bold 100% sans-serif; color: #069" | Seat
| style="background: #db93b7; font: bold 100% sans-serif; color: #069" | Money
|-
| style="background: #db93b7" colspan="2" |  
| style="background: white; font-family: monospace; color: black" colspan="4" rowspan="4" |
Look Out Ladies Productions 
Presents 
An Evening With 
<big>Pablo Phoenix</big> 
w/ Special Guest 
Limozeen 
<big>Civic Center</big>
| style="background: #db93b7; border-left: 1px dashed black" |  
|-
| style="background: #69c; font-family: monospace; color: black" colspan="2" | 227 <div style="text-align: right; font: bold 80% sans-serif; color: white">Sec</div>
| style="background: #69c; font-family: monospace; color: black; border-left: 1px dashed black" | Sec 227
| style="background: #69c; font-family: monospace; color: #FF0; border-left: 1px dashed black" rowspan="2" | No Refund No DeLabor
|-
| style="background: #db93b7" colspan="2" |  
| style="background: #db93b7; border-left: 1px dashed black" |  
|-
| style="background: #69c; font-family: monospace; color: black" | 18 Row
| style="background: #69c; font-family: monospace; color: black" | 43 Seat
| style="background: #69c; font-family: monospace; color: black; border-left: 1px dashed black" | Row 18
| style="background: #white; font-weight: bold; color: #F480BD; border-left: 1px dashed black" rowspan="2" | I Got A Ticket!
|-
| style="background: #db93b7" |  
| style="background: white; font-family: monospace; color: black" colspan="5" | <big>FRI JUN 21 2002 7:35 PM</big>
| style="background: #db93b7; font-family: monospace; color: black; border-left: 1px dashed black" | Seat 43
|}

*After Strong Bad's coin, you can quickly click on The Cheat and see his coin, which reads "Don't Mess With THE CHEAT", "2 Bits", and "A Bad Penny."

==Fun Facts==
===Remarks===
*Flag Day is actually celebrated on June 14th, three days before this email was released. Therefore, the email must have been sent the preceding Friday.
*The flag is made up of parts of Strong Badia. The brown part represents the dirt, the white part represents the fence with the jagged top, and the red part possibly represents Strong Bad himself or the [[Stop Sign]]. The [[Tire]] is next to the fence and the [[Big Knives|Big Knife]] is from numerous places. The snake doesn't seem to represent anything of Strong Badia in particular, although 18th century American revolutionary flags such as the [[Wikipedia:First Navy Jack|first US Navy Jack]] and the [[Wikipedia:Gadsden flag|Gadsden flag]] (both with a prominent snake on them along with the slogan, "Don't Tread on Me") could be the inspiration behind it.
*When The Cheat is playing the tune while Strong Bad sings, he only presses one key. Old Casio keyboards would often allow you to play a preset background tune with harmonics by pressing one button.
*The chord progression at the end of the anthem, as Strong Bad sings "Population Ti-i-i-ire," is a plagal cadence, often referred to as the "amen" cadence for its use at the conclusion of sacred music.
*If The Cheat's penny is worth two bits, it has the same value as a quarter.
*The Cheat's hand movements are a constant repeating animation (such as Homestar's eyes blinking), so not only does it not sync up with the song, it will still be playing if you go into the Flash file and deselect "Play".
*The anthem music is already starting while The Cheat is preoccupied with hoisting the flag, even though The Cheat is afterwards shown to be the one playing the song.

===Goofs===
*When The Cheat is raising the flag and it is hanging down, the line between the red and white stripes is straight. When it is fluttering in the breeze, it is jagged.
*When The Paper comes down in front of the Strong Badian flag, the left side of its shadow can be seen right behind it, as if the sky in the background were an actual surface like the flag.

===Inside References===
*On the ticket to Pablo Phoenix's event, all the way on the right, vertically, it says "no refund no delabor," which is a reference to the numerous members of the Delabor family that work at [[Thorax Corporation]].
*This is an instance of [[Blood|bleeding]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Cheat being referred to as "A Bad Penny" is also used much later in [[Halloween Fairstival]] when Strong Bad calls both Strong Mad and The Cheat his "bad pennies."
*The background of the last scene would later be used for the title screen of [[Population: Tire]].
*The snake on the flag is later seen in [[myths & legends]] as one of [[Strong Badia's Seven Elemental Spirits]].
*The [[Strong Badia National Anthem]] is used on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], and briefly in [[Date Nite]].

==DVD Version==
*All of this email's eggs can still be viewed using the angle button.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Hello, this is more commentary.

'''MIKE:''' This is more commentary, too. Thank you for joining us.

'''MATT:''' Uh... I think Pablo Phoenix was, well, back when we had a message board on the website—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, he was one of the regulars

'''MATT:''' —was one of the regulars, yeah, which was kind of cool. We didn't know, tha—well, a— well, at the time, but later on he showed up and... true.

'''MIKE:''' Something that uh, we often talk about is the original lyrics to the Strong Badia National Anthem

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah, tell them—they're written down somewhere

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I think I sang those this morning. Um, which were "This one is great, truly truly great"

'''MATT:''' "The land of all people, the land of different stuff"

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah

'''MATT:''' Or something like that.

'''MIKE:''' It ''had'' to be changed

'''MATT:''' It was not good at all. And, uh

'''MIKE:''' ''{singing}'' This one is great, truly truly great.

'''MATT:''' ''{joins in}'' Truly truly great... ''{spoken very quickly}'' the-land-of-all-people-the-land-of-different-stuff. Um, so the scale here, that's a tiny Strong Badia flag there, Mike. The Cheat should've been much smaller.

'''MIKE:''' Heh, that's true. The scale... We're not very consistent with our scale.

'''MATT:''' Yeah... We should make a style guide.

'''MIKE:''' ''You'' can make a style guide.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, ''you'' make one, more like.

''{Mike laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Um... So this is the first appearance of Strong Bad.

''{Mike and Matt laugh}''

'''MATT:''' Look, that's the year I was born! 1976! Thanks, Mike, did you do that on purpose?

'''MIKE:''' I think I did do that on purpose.

'''MATT:''' Awww, you guys!

'''MIKE:''' And all the action figures always cost [[$11.01|11 dollars and one cent]], which is your birthday.

'''MATT:''' Eleven oh one!

'''MIKE:''' November 1st. Now everyone knows your birthday so maybe they'll get you presents!

'''MATT:''' Don't get me any presents guys! Uh, I always wanted you to—you didn't do a clink there. I think I even made a clinking sound effect for those two bottles and you didn't put it in.

'''MIKE:''' There's lots of—

'''MATT:''' 'Cause Mike finished this up, I remember that. I had to go out of town.

'''MIKE:''' There's no—

'''MATT:''' And Mike finished it up. Well yeah, but it ''clearly'' deserves a sound effect.

'''MIKE:''' Well there's ''lots'' of things that... You don't hear the X-Acto knife carving into Strong Mad's flesh sound that we always use.

'''MATT:''' That, that's true. This is what it sounds like. ''{Matt makes a gross-sounding carving sound effect with his mouth}''

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail32.html|watch "flag day"]]
*[[HR:sbemail32.swf|view the Flash file for "flag day"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Holiday Toons]][[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

from work

Geshmalderborgen — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:07:08 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Remarks */ Reworded newest remark, but I'm not sure whether it should be kept.

{{sbenav|169}}
[[Image:from work.png|thumb|"Hey! How come your imagination's working?"]]

Strong Bad answers an email from work.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}

'''Places:''' [[The Office]]

'''Computer:''' [[Corpy NT6]]

'''Date:''' Monday, April 9, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:34

'''Page Title:''' Corpy NT6!

==Transcript==
''{Close-up of the lower half of Strong Bad's face. He holds his hand over his mouth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voice}'' Shhh! Shut up, you guys! I'm checkin' email from work today, and I can't let The Man know what I'm up to!

''{Cut to Strong Bad typing on a computer with a grey monitor that reads "Corpy NT6"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, tiptoe your fingers 'cross the keyboard for the quietest email you can check.

''{The [[DELETED]] [[Sound Effects|buzzer]] is heard. An error message with a picture of a hand blocking a basketball appears with the text "BLOCKED! Back to work, drone!" The box shakes when the buzzer plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, man. They got everything blocked now. Even those awesome pop-up insurance ads with the cool mini-games in 'em. I tasered that gnome like ten times! ''{stops typing}'' Good thing The Cheat hooked me up with this Cheatware!

''{Strong Bad holds up a yellow 3.5" diskette with black spots; the label reads "Cheatware ver. 2.1" and has an ASCII-art-like[[#Remarks|*]] drawing of The Cheat. He puts it in the computer. The computer makes a whirring sound and the text "Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder" appears on the screen with a picture of an old woman and a brick wall. Music plays. The screen changes to an animation of the old woman pole vaulting over the wall into an envelope. The words "Running..." appears at the top and changes to "Done and done." as the animation finishes. A progress bar at the bottom progresses from yellow to red.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, nice work, pixel-Granny! Undermine those corporate oppressors on witcha bad self! ''{brings up email}''

<blockquote class="corpy email" style="border:#ddd;border-bottom:#ccc;">
Dear Strong Bad, 
If you could have any job in the whole 
world, regardless of how much it pays, what 
would you have? 
From The Nitwon
<div style="border:none;background:#08089c"></div>
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "The Nitwon" as "The Nittle One"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You ask like I haven't told you guys a million times... ''{drumroll sounds; Strong Bad clears screen}'' I'd be a 2nd 2nd Assistant Space Whale Scrubber! ''{"tada" sound effect; the words "Space Whale Scrubber" flash in many colors}'' Cause  those are the ones that get to wear that glittery pantsuit and use a lazormop to scrub all the nudules and crudules off the whale's dorsal ridge! ''{Crickets chirp. Strong Bad looks around.}'' Umm, shouldn't we be seeing some of this by now?

'''BUBS:''' ''{offscreen, imitating buzzer noise}'' Baghh!

''{Cut to view of Bubs standing behind Strong Bad, who is facing him}''

'''BUBS:''' Sorry, Strong Bad! The suits had me install a firewall on your imagination! All that free thinking was wasting the company's cost money!

''{Close up of Strong Bad's face}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's it! I am totally never gonna quit this job but start complaining about it a little bit more! ''{he thumps the desk with his fist four times}''

''{Back to view of Strong Bad and Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, I'd better get back to taserin' that gnome! Err, I mean, ''{Bubs starts walking offscreen}'' upgrading the... taserin' that gnome... server!

''{Return to view of Strong Bad in front of the Corpy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I guess I could try and describe it using work approved methods. Let's see: ''{clears screen, brings up a blank graph. Continues typing, the words appear in red above the graph}'' Why 2nd 2nd Assistant Space-Whale Scrubber is My Dream Job. ''{an image of a space-whale appears in the background}'' Twenty percent pantsuit, ''{a green bar comes up from the bottom of the graph with "20%" written on it and "pantsuit" written under it}'' seventeen percent space-whale proximity... ''{a shorter purple bar comes up with "17%" written on it and "space-whale proximity" written under it}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey, cube neighbor!

''{Cut to Strong Sad looking at Strong Bad over the side of his cubicle}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' My work staysh is asking me if I want to log off or log out. Which one do I choose?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pffft! Stupid temp. You don't know the difference between logging off and logging out?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, no. Back when I was in charge of the ''{starts drumming his fingers}'' schwa sound at dictionary.com they used to...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Look, just hold down escape, control, tab, alt, both shifts, num lock and the little squiggly until your screen turns blue. Then, stare at it until your shift ends.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, thanks!

''{Strong Sad goes back down into his own cubicle. Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the Corpy. The chart has gone away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Okay. Back to the, back to the sbemail. Let's talk about dorsal ridges!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You wanna know what—

''{Cut to Homestar Runner behind Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —''my'' dream job would be?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. I mean, no. I mean, no.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'd be the guy—

''{Cut to a shot of blue sky with clouds, as happy fantasy music plays in the background}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —that flies around ''{Homestar Runner falls onto and starts riding a large flying goldfish}'' on that big plastic goldfish, ''{an oversized toothbrush appears next to Homestar, who uses it to paint clouds in the sky}'' painting the clouds with an oversized novelty toothbrush!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! How come your imagination's working?

''{Homestar stops painting clouds, and the music stops. Cut back to Homestar Runner and Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I got admin privileges! It helps when you're best friends with the Big Cheese!

''{Zoom out; An annoyed Pom Pom is behind Homestar with sunglasses above his eyes and carrying a bicycle with the text "[...]IG CHEESE"}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Agh! ''{jumps, turns around}'' The Big Cheese!

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{bends over with a downtrodden look}'' Yes, sir. Sorry, sir. Right away, sir. Hallelujah, sir. ''{Pom Pom begins to bounce away, with Homestar shuffling behind him}'' I'll have that DNA evidence on your desk by five.

''{Back to Strong Bad in front of the Corpy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nevermind, Nitwit. Checking sbemails at the office is not worth the trouble. I dunno how all those bloggers do it. Oh well. I guess I'd better get back to woik.

''{Screen clears; a message appears saying "Would you like to:"; there are two buttons, one that says "Log off", one that says "Log out"}''.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbles, typing noises}'' 'Scape... tab... squiggly... ''{with each type, a word appears onscreen: "esc.ctrl.tab.alt.shift.shift.numlock.~.<"}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#455FD8; border-color:#E2E2E2; text-align:center">
{| cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid white; color:white; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto"
|-
| style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#455FD8" |  TEMP LOG OFF/OUT ERROR 
|-
| <div style="text-align:center; border:none; background:none">Oh you are SOOOO not gonna work here again!</div>
|}
</blockquote>

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about 7 seconds, Strong Bad continues:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, gonna be a long one. I haven't even taken my first sit-in-the-men's-room-and-play-''Tetris''-for-an-hour break yet.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Taser gnome.PNG|thumb|Low rates and percent signs]]
*Click on the comic strip on the wall of Strong Bad's cubicle when Strong Sad appears to see a [[Dullard]] comic.
*Click on "work" at the end of the email after Strong Bad's comment in order to play "[[Taser the Gnome Game|Taser the Gnome For Low Rates]]".

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
[[Image:Get_Back_To_Work!.png|thumb|Back to work, drone!]]
*A [[Wikipedia:Firewall|firewall]] is a computer system designed to protect one or more computers from unwanted connections, and can be configured to restrict the same computers from accessing certain external resources. However, it is occasionally used (incorrectly) to refer to a [[Wikipedia:Proxy server|proxy server]], often used at workplaces and schools to restrict access to non-work related websites, which appears to be the system used in Strong Bad's workplace.
*Cheatware is an example of a proxy or [[Wikipedia:anonymizer|anonymizer]], which can be used to bypass firewalls or restrictions placed by the administrators of the network.
*A [[Wikipedia:Temporary work|temp]] is a short-term (or temporary) worker.
*A [[Wikipedia:Blog|blog]], or "weblog", is a journal-like user generated website.
*A [[Wikipedia:Schwa|schwa]] is an unstressed, neutral vowel sound, represented by an ə (an upside down e).
*The squiggly (~) is known as the [[Wikipedia:Tilde|tilde]].
*The [http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/whales/glossary/indexd.shtml dorsal ridge] is a raised line or hump on the back of some [[Sea Creatures#Whales|whales]] (in place of a dorsal fin).
*A [[Wikipedia:Electroshock_weapon#TASER|taser]] is a non-lethal weapon used for subduing a person by administering an electric shock.
*Admin is short for [[Wikipedia:System administrator|Administrator]].

===Trivia===
*The [[hr:menuswfs/menu_sbemail169.swf|preview]] on the [[TV Time Toons Menu]] is not a scene from the email but just simply a shot of the Corpy NT6 with a blank screen and a blinking cursor.
*Despite making multiple appearances since July 2006, this is the first time in six months Pom Pom broke free of the standby role he held in 'toons such as [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[unnatural]], and [[your funeral]].

===Remarks===
*The sound made by the computer when the [[Edgar#Grandmaw Edgar|Cheatware]] disk is put in is the noise made by many old 5.25" floppy drives. However, the Cheatware disk is a 3.5" floppy disk.
*The tune to the opening email song that this email has is similar to that of [[trading cards]].
*Several fluorescent lights can be seen in the Corpy's reflection. This can be seen most prominently in the "Loading..." screen.
*The [[ASCII art]]-like image of The Cheat is not possible to make with ASCII art. Parentheses are used sideways, and the characters do not align correctly with a fixed width font.
*Though most Edgarware programs are used as security devices, "Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder" is the first designed to circumvent security devices.
*Although Strong Bad seems to be concerned with the volume level at the beginning of the email, he seems to disregard any semblance of noise control for the rest of the email, especially when he yells at Bubs.
*Although Homestar's dream job involves painting white clouds, in [[dreamail]] he says that he hates them.
*The image of the Dullard comic on Strong Bad's wall before it is clicked is the same image used in the email [[dullard]]. This can be seen in the fact that the comic resembles a rough sketch of the first Dullard comic, with characters handing each other a piece of paper and the dog-like character in the last panel.
**This same image was used in [[4 branches]].
*In the Gnome Tasering game there are 2 rows of state abbreviations. One row has 24 states and the other has 26 states even though two rows of 25 states could have been used.
*The gnome-tasering game's score system is only meant to hold five digits, and hitting 100,000+ will result in the last digit getting cut off.
*In the gnome-tasering game, the ka-ching sound plays when you click the mouse down on the gnome, and the buzzing noise and score only happen when you let go of the mouse. If you move the mouse off the gnome before letting go (or the gnome moves out from underneath the mouse), the buzzing noise won't play, and you won't get any points.
*Strong Bad spells the phrase "never mind" as "Nevermind". This is a reference to the title of a [[Wikipedia:Nevermind|Nirvana album]].

===Goofs===
[[Image:Tazer Gnome 100,000.PNG|thumb|Six digits.]]
*The Dullard comic is not visibly attached to the wall in any way, as the thumbtack does not actually go through the comic.
*The reflections of the lights above Strong Bad's cubicle overlap the reflection of his head, which should not be possible since his head would block any light coming from that direction.
*When Strong Bad says the words "s'''qu'''iggly" and "bl'''ue'''," his mouth doesn't make an "O" shape.
*When Strong Sad goes back to his cubicle, his head disappears prematurely.

===Inside References===

*This is the fifth email in a row to mention [[DNA evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]].
*Strong Sad previously said "staysh" in [[Lappynapped!]].
*"Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder" is another program in the [[Edgar]] family.
*Using a lazormop to scrub all the nudules and crudules off the space whale's dorsal ridge is another example of [[Lasers]].
*The space whale whale has the same kinds of spots as the [[Europa-pean Lobster|space lobster]] from [[Drive-Thru]].
*One of the items in Bubs's tool belt is a [[permanent marker]].
*Bubs spoke of The Man in [[Cool Things]].
*Homestar saying he'll have the DNA evidence on Pom Pom's desk by five is a reference to the first [[Dullard]] comic.
*"Done and done" was last seen in [[radio]].
*"Corpy" is a [[portmanteau]] of "corporate" and "[[Compy 386|Compy]]".
*The goldfish Homestar rides in his daydream resembles one of the sketches of the [[Drive-Thru Whale]], who may also be related to the "space whales" Strong Bad discusses.
*Strong Bad saying, "No. I mean, no. I mean, no." is an example of a joke in the form [[X, I mean X, I mean X]].
*Strong Bad saying "woik" is another example of [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].

===Real-World References===
*Products advertised in the Taser the Gnome easter egg are a [[Wikipedia:Xbox|Microsoft Xbox]], a [[Wikipedia:iPod (5G)|Fifth Generation iPod]], and a [[Wikipedia:PlayStation Portable|PlayStation Portable (PSP)]], all common "prizes" for playing the game ads which the Gnome Tasering game is parodying.
*''[[Wikipedia:Tetris|Tetris]]'' is a well-known and often imitated video game created by [[Wikipedia:Alexey Pajitnov|Alexey Pajitnov]], and has been ported to many video game consoles, digital organizers, and cell phones.
*The "Corpy NT6" could be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Windows Vista|Windows Vista]], which is [[Wikipedia:Windows NT#Releases|Windows NT version 6]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Man|The Man]] is a term from the '60s used to describe authority figures. It is often associated with a negative connotation, as '60s movements which used the term tended to resist the influence of individuals who could be considered "The Man."
*The way Strong Sad peeks over his cubicle wall and says "Hey, cube neighbor!" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Wilson (Home Improvement)|Wilson]] on the TV sitcom ''[[Wikipedia:Home Improvement|Home Improvement]]''.
*"Insurance games" is a reference to online advertisements from companies, like LowerMyBills.com and FreePay, that feature Flash-based games which lead to the company's website when played.
*The [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning#System Errors|screen turning blue]] is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Blue_Screen_of_Death|Blue Screen of Death]], a [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]] system error screen.
*Strong Bad's log off/log out key sequence is a parody of the key sequence used to unlock Windows NT work stations, [[Wikipedia:Control-Alt-Delete|Ctrl+Alt+Delete]], and of the [[Wikipedia:Novell|Novell]] 'Four Finger Salute' <Left Shift><Right Shift><Alt><Esc>.
*[[Wikipedia:Reference.com|Dictionary.com]] is an online dictionary.

===Fast Forward===
*A deleted scene from this email would be featured in the short [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]].
*The DNA scene would be revisited in the big toon [[DNA Evidence]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|169|{{{2|11151}}}}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]][[Category:Game Emails]]

Talk:Where's an Egg?

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:15:33 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Ending Screen */

==Character themes==

I just noticed something. Every character has their own variation on the theme that plays in that person's presence. Whenever you ask a character about another character, or they answer a question about that character, that character's theme will be played along with the theme of the character you're speaking with. But when only items and places are involved in the question (or the occasional super-bad liar who answers a question with him/herself when it's patently not true), you'll hear only the one character's theme. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Multiple endings==

I've found that depending on how quickly I finish the games. So far, I've found four:
*Fireworks only — 900 seconds or less left
*Fireworks and a white satellite-looking spaceship — 901-940 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, and a yellow/brown spaceship — 941-970 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, a yellow/brown spaceship, and a gray/green spaceship with an alien coming out — 971 or more seconds left
I'm unsure whether there are any other endings for amounts of time left much smaller than the above. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:My guess is that the 3rd one is a space lab and the "alien" that comes out is a cosmonaut performing a space walk.

:I managed to win a few times just by shooting at everyone immediately. My best time is 994 and all I get is the sputnik, the rocket and the space lab.

:[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't just any "spaceships", those are definitely meant to refer to the Sputnik satellites.

The first is Sputnik. The second is probably [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1 Vostok 1], with Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space. The third is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_2 Voskhod 2], with Aleksei Leonov, the first human to perform a spacewalk. [[User:CaseyG|CaseyG]] 01:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Dead on - good work! They definitely appear to be celebrating Russia's "firsts" in space. First man-made satellite, first human in space, and first spacewalk. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I let the time run down to 96 before getting bored, and nothing unusual happened when I shot the culprit. So it doesn't seem there are any other endings. Why the heck they think people need as much time as they give is totally and utterly beyond me - the amount of time is ridiculously high and takes forever to run down! - but whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I let it run down to 001 and shot the culprit — just the normal ending. Also, I agree: 1000 seconds is unnecessary. I will say, though, that the first time I played it I was completely clueless, so it was nice that I could take my time stumbling around and trying to figure out what was going on. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:::This is Forum fodder primarily, but I'll briefly add that being timed out when learning a game is really frustrating and turns me off, and that may be a reason behind TBC's use of such a long timeout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Locations, suspects, and items ==
Here are my attempts at identifying the locations, suspects, and items. I'm not sure of all of them, especially the ones with question marks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
===Locations===
*Aquarium
*Forest
*Museum (?)
*Siberia (thanks, [[Special:Contributions/70.116.132.84|70.116.132.84]])
*City
*Desert
*Beach
*Movie theater
*Pier

===Suspects===
*Butler
*Blue hat man
*Maid
*Blonde woman
*[[Wikipedia:John McEnroe|John McEnroe]] (I think — recall that Homestar [[:Image:Homestar JohnMcEnroe.PNG|previously dressed up as him]])
*Mechanic
*Old Woman
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Red hat man

===Items===
*[[Egg]]
*Potted plant
*Strawberry
*[[Alcohol|Beer]]
*Pencil
*Bomb
*Duffel bag
*Monkey wrench
*Slingshot
*Cat

I think once the locations, items, suspects are re-ordered, we can pull the stub tag off the article. Lots of great info and we have the basics now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Item Talk ==

I have noticed, if people talk about an item when you question them about the egg, talk about the item. They will then tell you a person, and a place. If the person is at that place with the item, they usually have the egg. If they ARN'T at that spot, the one who gave you the info usually has the egg. Anyone have this not happen? (Notice I said USUALLY)--[[User:Bobmuffins|Bobmuffins]] 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Painfully dumb question... ==

How do you play the game if you don't speak or read Russian?
:Actual game play requires no knowledge of Russian, since it done completely with pictures. The Russian writing is meaningless or poorly done, anyway. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

- Hey; erm, I have no real idea about wiki ettiquete but I just wanted to say that the Russian is all more or less correct and certainly not meaningless. Here goes: The title, 'gde yaitso' indeed means 'where is the/an egg?' (although the dash in the middle is not needed) - the reference to 'gde yaichko' that is made on the corresponding wiki article on this topic is wrong; 'yaichko' is a diminuitive form roughly equivalent to 'eggy'. 'Gde yaitso' i.e. as written in the game is the best translatoin for 'Where's an Egg?'. On the loading screen, 'televizionniy elektricheskiy' - 'televisual electrical' is fairly senseless but apart from that, the rest of the russian is correct. When you shoot the egg-haver, 'vinovnik' (criminal) appears, and then 'pozdravlenie' (congratulations). If you get it wrong, 'vinovnik' again appears, followed by 'gulag' (russians tend to use the simpler word 'lager'' but gulag is a russian acronym) and then 'igra zakonchenniy' - the only real example of incorrect grammar. It means 'game over' but should be 'igra zakonchennaya' to account for the feminine gender of 'igra'. Hardly 'meaningless or poorly done'. I was pretty surprised with the quality of the russian, to be honest
:: Since it clear you know Russian, and I definitely do not, I would bow to your superior knowledge. In this case, I would say writing up this information in the wiki directly would be much appreciated. (Perhaps under a translation section?) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Russian text is only used for the title screen and the "congraturatory" address. "Dialogue" in the game itself is handled through pictograms ("Blue Rabbit's Climate Chaos" comes to mind, although this is much more simplistic). Basically, you go around "investigating" each area, confirming which characters are where and which items they're holding, and questioning the characters about other characters and items; if you find someone who's lying, odds are he/she is the culprit, and you do what any good renegade Russian detective would: you shoot them! ^_^--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 19:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

: Actually, I find that about half the suspects lie, whether they have the egg or not. But really, since everyone either always lies or always tells the truth, all you have to do is find someone who gives you a clue about the egg and says even one other true thing. (Don't bother asking anyone, truthteller or liar, about him/herself or his/her own item, though.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Too many colors==
When you hover over a button, it gradients from gray to yellow (and back again when you remove) Thats waaaaay too many shades of yellow for a game like this. Maybe put this in remarks or goofs. I have bad edit etiquette :P

==Screen shot==
Since the game is out for reals and looks different from the preview shot that was originally up, shouldn't we use a screen shot of actual game play? Do we include both images on the page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I went ahead and replaced the old image with the new one, since that's what we did with [[Kid Speedy]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Maid ==
[[Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png|thumb|Totally a butcher.]]
Which person is supposed to be the maid? Process of elimination of all the other characters left a person who appears to be a butcher.--[[User:Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel|Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel]] 21:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Also, which one is supposed to be the movie theater? Process of elimination left what resembles the Lincoln Memorial.

I think the one with the red rope and yellowish wall is the movie theater.- [[User:70.243.66.159|70.243.66.159]] 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC) (Everybody! Sorry, forgot to sign in...)

== Ending Screen ==

That's not a police station, it's Lenin's Mausoleum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum)
:Apparently we don't know too much 'bout Russia. Thanks for pointing that out! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Also the word vinovnik (виновник) would be better translated as "guilty person". Criminal is prestupnik (преступник) in Russian.

We would probably use "culprit" in English.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

That "uniformed man" looks like Stalin [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Stalin_02.jpg]. Well, as much as 'good graphics' can allow, anyways ;). It's got his mustache. Given that the game seems to be set in Soviet Russia, there is more than a good chance that it's suppose to be Stalin. What does everyone else thing? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|23:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)}}

:I'm all for it. It looks enough like him to me, and it certainly fits with the Russian theme. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

::It seems very likely. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:Does anyone not think it's Stalin?

::I think it ''could'' be, but are we sure enough for this not to be considered undue speculation? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::To me, it has the following point for it being Stalin:
:::the setting is Soivet Russia
:::the medal is given out at Lenin's Mausoleum, and Stalin stood atop of Lenin's Mausoleum during the post-WWII victory parade (it's the kind of place a Soviet dictator would give out a medal)
:::The mustache and uniform look like Stalin's, and not like any other Soviet dictator (No other Soviet dictator had a mustach like that, although Lenin did have a goatee, he wasn't known for wearing a uniform and would, persumably, be in his tomb)
:::Stalin might actually want someone shot for stealing an egg (and I'm only half joking on that last one)
::I don't see any points against it being Stalin. I cannot discount it being some other uniformed mustachio'd Soviet authority figure, like some head of the KGB or something, but no others come to mind
::Does anyone know someone else that might fit that discritpion? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|02:12, 18 July 2007}}

:::I '''strongly oppose''' the idea that it's Stalin. It's just a guy in a uniform. There were many of those if Soviet Russia, Lenin's tomb was used by every Soviet leader for parades, and Stalin was dead years before those spacecrafts were launched. I also see absoluetly no persuavive reason why it ''should'' be Stalin.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::::I see your point, but I don't think the timeline matters too much — John McEnroe wasn't even born when Sputnik was launched, for example. Rather, I think these other famous historical Russian appearances strengthen the case for it being Stalin. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Stalin is in this game, but not the uniformed man. It's the man pictured immediately above this thread.
:::::: Were it not for the timeline, I would say it was certainly Stalin. Both the mustache and uniform are too close to be coincidence. Even with the timeline problems, I think Stalin is still the best fit. He is certainly the most obvious mustached man in a Russian uniform. In fact I can't think of any other who would be appropriate. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Suspect and location images ==

While the suspect and location images were originally icons, they have now been overwritten with full-sized images. Personally, I prefer the icons for three reasons:
#The full body characters are much taller than the rest of the images, which makes the table look a little lopsided.
#<s>The icon images are pixel-for-pixel, whereas there are some cropping issues with the full-sized images (compare the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716220648%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png butcher icon}} with the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716235952%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png full-body butcher}})</s> (fixed)
#We don't need to illustrate every component of the game completely, just give an icon for identification purposes.
Does anyone agree, or are we happy with the staus quo? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: I think the table is fine as is, especially with the ability to expand the locations to a larger size. Perhaps making the size of the icons closer to the same size (using the item icons as a guide)? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

::The icons are fine by me, alhtough the cropping issues can easily be fixed. If you think reverting back to icons is the better choice, by all means, go for it. I don't see a problem with keeping the locations as full shots, however. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Names of People, Places and iTems ==

Using a decompiler, the names are '''Jessifer, Pall, Brodermaker, Mancuso, Damella, Deark, Gubby, Les and Joeff'''. The places are called '''Seward Lane, Hollway, A Room, Gym, Bank, Gumption Road, Upstairs, Nearby and Under'''. The items are called '''Bottle, Ball, Butterfly, Dog, Gym Bag, Fanny Pack, Frying Pan, Candlestick and Laptop'''. Not sure which is which. I might have another look later on when I'm home from school.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:That's crazy :P Especially since some of those names bear little resemblance to the items... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm more surprised they put all the names there. By the way, nice work on the [[looking old]] reference. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a Flash decompiler and I'm not finding these names anywhere in the image files. Where are YOU finding them? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: Never mind; I found them, but I see no indication of which is which, unless they define them in numerical order as the images appear (and who could tell - there aren't any bottles or balls to be seen anyway!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The internal names Loafing listed don't appear to actually be used anywhere... the only time these lists of names are even mentioned is that the list of placenames is added to a non-existant (or no-longer-existant) drop-down list on the map screen (possibly a stub, before they made the pretty buttons?). They seem to only be there for debugging purposes. However, it's reasonable to assume that, as debugging tools, they're in the same order as the numerical ids that everything's stored with, which'll make them:
{| border="0"
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Places
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Seward Lane || Aquarium
|-
| Hollway || Park
|-
| A Room || Icy Mountains
|-
| Gym || Bank
|-
| Bank || Beach
|-
| Gumption Road || Desert
|-
| Upstairs || City
|-
| Nearby || Art Museum
|-
| Under || Bridge
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Items
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Bottle || Wrench
|-
| Ball || Beer
|-
| Butterfly || Cat
|-
| Dog || Slingshot
|-
| Gym Bag || Pencil
|-
| Fanny Pack || Gym Bag
|-
| Frying Pan || Bomb
|-
| Candlestick || Potted Plant
|-
| Laptop || Strawberry
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | People
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Jessifer || Blonde Woman
|-
| Pall || Blue hat man
|-
| Brodermaker || Old Woman
|-
| Mancuso || Butler
|-
| Damella || Mechanic
|-
| Deark || Red hat man
|-
| Gubby || Butcher
|-
| Les || Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale
|-
| Joeff || John McEnroe
|}
|}
It seems clear that these debugging names were used ''well before'' the current art was made... it's odd that the one named "Bank" is one ''after'' the real Bank, and the "Gym Bag" is one ''before'' the real Gym Bag... but that's the order they are in the Flash file. I don't think the names warrant mentioning in the article... which is why I made the full tables here on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Manual ==

The manual page is really funny in the way, that its English translation is more correct then the original Russian text :)

* The word at the top of the page "Узнать" (Uznat') is correct, it really does mean "Find out";
* The line "Кто лежит?" (Kto lezhit?) is a mistake and actually means here "Who is lying on the ground?" rather then "Who is telling lies/lying?". This is because in English the verb "to lie" can mean both of those things, but in Russian it's "лежать" (lezhat') for "lying on the ground" and "лгать" (lgat') for "telling the lies/lying". So the line should be "Кто лжет?" (Kto lzhet?);
* The line "Кто говорит правду?" (Kto govorit pravdu?) is correct, it does mean "Who tells the truth?";
* The line "Кто имеет яйцо?" (Kto imeet yaico?) is a bit incorrect and means "Who owns an egg?". "У кого яйцо?" (U kogo yaico?) could be translated as "Who has the egg?"

Another note: The Arbat ST. (location of the seller) is a well-known street in Moscow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbat_Street).
: This would be excellent information for the [[Some Type of Online Auction]] page, where the Arbat Street reference is already noted. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Musie Theater? ==

I'm quite confident that the image given the label "Theater" is actually the museum. It looks just like an art museum display and... not at all like a movie theater. The other one's kind of ambiguous as to WHAT it is, but I'm quite sure on the "Theater". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:The other one looks like some kinda government building. Maybe if someone could translate the Russian on the building, it would shed some light on this? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:For now, I swapped the Theater one (pictures with a velvet rope) in the correct place. (Compare with the theater in [[the movies]]) I did notice that the one current marked "Museum" has some Russian writing on it. If someone would translate that, in addition to finding out what how the image is marked internally, for now it's probably better to leave the images where they are. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::You... you swapped it from my swap. The one with the ropes looks more like an art museum. Why would the ropes be so close to the pictures otherwise? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I have seen plenty of movie theaters that have velvet ropes along the walls; they are used when they have people line up before the start of movie for a major opening. The other picture is clearly ''not'' a movie theater, so we need to wait until we have further info. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: But who was it that called it a "movie theater" in the first place? US! There is no "further info" besides maybe someone with a flash compiler or a translation of the pillar building. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: Know what? Forget it. I don't want an edit war. I'm compromising with simple descriptions no one can dispute. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks from [[#Names of People, Places and iTems|above]] that one of these (probably the one with the pillars) is a bank, but who knows with the weirdness of the rest of the names. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:If the one current marked as Museum is indeed a bank, I would have no problem making the other a museum. Right now, it's unclear. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so can we call the one with the velvet ropes a "Museum" now? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that sounds reasonable. At first, I thought it was a movie theater, but the more I look at it, the more those look like pieces of art. Especially the one on the left. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::And y'know - who named that last one a "pier"? Looks more like a bridge to me. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The gray one with what looks like "bEPER" on it is a bank. "берег" is Russian for "bank" according to some online English-Russian dictionary I just Googled. I submit that the one with the velvet ropes is an art musuem. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:About the museum one, I think it's an ''art'' museum. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Glitch or not? ==

Someone on the forums mentioned a glitch where, if you click on the top left corner a lot of times as the game starts, you can win with a timer score of 000. This is only if the person in the aquarium has the egg. I tried it and it worked, but I'm not sure if it's really a glitch or not. Thoughts? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Additionally, each time I've done it (by clicking the area of the screen where the Aquarium icon and gun icon overlap) the timer freezes at 000, but at the "Win" screen the timer reads 999 and all three spacecraft appear. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:: Just reproduced it myself, although given other Flash-related artifacts like this, I imagine that the way-way-way-way-way-too-generous timer starts at 1000 and it just chops off the first digit... and perhaps drops it down to a normal value afterwards. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Don't know if it's really a "glitch" if it only works when the suspect in the ''aquarium'' has the egg. That would make it more a matter of luck. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Glitches that only happen under specific circumstances are still glitches. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but if the person in the aquarium has the egg, all you need to do is keep clicking the top left to finish the game in less than a second. That combined with the explanation you gave earlier about the timer actually being 1000 seconds, ''I'' think, completely disproves the glitch theory. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::The internal timer variable starts at 999 (which is what you see at the "win" screen), but the display in-game starts at 000 (not 1000) and is only updated a second after the game starts, the first time the "update timer" function's called. I think this qualifies as a minor glitch (namely that the display doesn't match the actual timer value for a second after the game starts). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Jack Orlando ==

Can anyone confirm the "Jack Orlando" Real-World Reference? The screenshots I've seen of that game look absolutely nothing like this one. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Dead People Tell Tales? ==

When I play the game, I killed someone and ask him about something and he replyed with a + sign. This should go into remarks I think. - Toonypie from the Fanstuff Wiki.

: It's a red cross - they're only capable of answering questions with requests for medical aid, seeing as how they've been shot and all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==5 Time win with no intention==
I won 5 times in this game just by going around and shooting 3 random people. It was awesome. YOU should try it!-MikeControl
:I think more people would be interested if you told them on the IRC channel. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: You have a one-in-three chance of getting it right by shooting random people. Those aren't terrible odds, so your five times in a row was just luck. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:: That was sheer luck. I accidentally got 998 by clicking the gun after clicking the aquarium. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::(1/3)^5 = 1/243. That's some luck. {{unsigned|68.121.111.150|12:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)}}
:::He never actually said he won five times in a row, just that he won five times. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Fabergé eggs? ==

When you talk about Russian eggs being stolen, it's almost certain that this is a reference to [[wikipedia:Fabergé_Eggs|Fabergé eggs]]. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:I guess it could be a reference to Fabergé eggs. But it could also be [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think the egg being stolen is just a joke (because no one would shoot a person to get back a stolen ''egg''). {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Strategy shortcut ==

:''Because they cannot provide you with useful information, it is worthwhile to shoot the first two suspects you know to be lying. One of them might just have the egg.''
I'm not sure why this keeps getting removed. It seems like a reasonable strategy to me. After you've played the game a bit, you know you really only need one bullet. The other two are just going to waste. Why not use them on the liars? Their info is no good, and you may get lucky and finish with a better time. If it doesn't work out, then you've still got your last bullet to use in the conventional way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:What's a waste of time is shooting suspects who may not have the egg. It's much better to be sure who the real culprit is than to leave it to luck, even if it turns out to be someone you've seen before. Like [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=599475&highlight=#599475 this trick] I use. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::It takes just over one extra second to shoot the liars. That seems an acceptable tradeoff for the amount of time it would take to keep going normally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Well of course you can use any other strategy and just shoot any liars you come across. But that doesn't make this a strategy in itself. Any player could simply decide to do that; it doesn't take any real thought. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 22:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No real thought? ''Au contraire!'' The suggestion is not to shoot people ''indiscriminantly'', but to shoot the first two liars you see (which takes some determining). You're not going back to a location where a liar is anyway—unless you have to confront the egg holder there. You could save a lot of time by going ahead and using your spare bullets before you leave the location. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Uh, that's exactly what I just said. This does not take any "real thought" because it is not a strategy as much as it is an add-on to another strategy. Yes it takes "some determining" to recognize liars, but methods for doing so are described in any strategy (including strategies we don't know). And it is not "worthwhile" to shoot the first known liars because it is so uncertain whether they would actually have the egg; the point of a solid strategy is ensuring correctness. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Note that the way the game works, you don't lose anything for shooting innocent civilians, except the brief second it takes for the detour of the mouse. You only lose out if you get it wrong three times. So a strategy doesn't have to be certain or get it right first time to be "correct" or "worthwhile". The only thing you're graded on is how long it takes you to find the right culprit, on your third guess or better. Anything that speeds that up is worthwhile. Just 'cause shooting people "just in case" or guessing in detective work is generally considered a bad idea in real life doesn't mean it isn't sensible in the context of the game. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'm inclined to agree with [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. You don't lose anything if you shoot two liars, except maybe a second, and the odds of getting lucky and shooting the guilty party are not all that bad. Additionally many people would not necessarily think of "Wasting" bullets on innocent civilians, so it is a worthwhile thing to record. — {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 20:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles? ==

I don't know if Where's an Egg? is one of the games that can be subtitled, but if so it could be neat to include approximate translations of the Russian...

My guess is that it's not possible to subtitle, though... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your guess is wrong. {{User:Mee/sig}} 22:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Well, partially — I was only able to subtitle [[Subtitles:wheresanegg/en|part of it]], since the rest of the text is embedded in movie files, I think. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

At the begining, when the Videlectrix logo apears, but before the guy shoots at it, the music playing is The Volga Boatmen's Song, traditional Russian song.

:That's awesome. (I just verified it) Great find! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Ron Cumberdale ==

The character listed as "Kid Speedy" has red hair, but the real Kid Speedy has brown/gray hair. Ron Cumberdale from Peasant's Quest, however, has the same shirt AND red hair. Edit? [[User:75.119.20.104|75.119.20.104]] 01:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:<s>I agree. I think "Kid Speedy" is just an updated version of [[Ron Cumberdale]].</s> On second thought, I disagree. Look at these three photos.

<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png|WAE? suspect
Image:kidspeedy.PNG|Kid Speedy
Image:roncumberdale.PNG|Ron Cumberdale
</gallery>

The skin tone, dark red shorts, same darkred/white striped shirt, and red shoes all match. It's Kid Speedy. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

As the one who originally suggested it as Kid Speedy, I concur with the original. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:I agree — I think it's Kid Speedy. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I was agreeing with the first one. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. In that case, I disagree — I think it's Kid Speedy. He's fat and has shorts instead of pants... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I just edited it and put Kid Speedy back but kept the Ron Cumberdale thing in. Basically, we don't know who it is unless someone got told it was Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale by TBC. They're the only ones who truly know. — {{User:Znex/sig}} 09:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

==Dynamic Music==

Has anyone else noticed how there is a base music track, and depending on which suspect you are interrogating, changes the extra line on top of it? eg, when you're interrogating blue guy with red hat, there's a sliding squarewave melody, and at the end when you get the medal, it has all the lines.
:Ummm...there's already a section about this back up the page. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Explanation about the Missing Points in my Last Edit ==

If around one hour ago, you were wondering why that the red cross reply point and the Stalin point were missing, I can explain everything. Before, I think I reverted the page or something by accident to the last time that it had Kid Speedy in the characters thing and that version happened to not have those things. So sorry about that. Sorry. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Not The Egg ==

It seems rather clear thar "an egg" has an integral article--it is refered to as such even in situations where "the egg" would be more appropriate, as it is clear this egg is the only egg in the game. --[[User:71.221.232.189|71.221.232.189]] 17:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Where's an Egg?

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:28:32 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Strategy shortcut */ It's Dot Com is right

==Character themes==

I just noticed something. Every character has their own variation on the theme that plays in that person's presence. Whenever you ask a character about another character, or they answer a question about that character, that character's theme will be played along with the theme of the character you're speaking with. But when only items and places are involved in the question (or the occasional super-bad liar who answers a question with him/herself when it's patently not true), you'll hear only the one character's theme. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Multiple endings==

I've found that depending on how quickly I finish the games. So far, I've found four:
*Fireworks only — 900 seconds or less left
*Fireworks and a white satellite-looking spaceship — 901-940 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, and a yellow/brown spaceship — 941-970 seconds left
*Fireworks, a white satellite-looking spaceship, a yellow/brown spaceship, and a gray/green spaceship with an alien coming out — 971 or more seconds left
I'm unsure whether there are any other endings for amounts of time left much smaller than the above. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:My guess is that the 3rd one is a space lab and the "alien" that comes out is a cosmonaut performing a space walk.

:I managed to win a few times just by shooting at everyone immediately. My best time is 994 and all I get is the sputnik, the rocket and the space lab.

:[[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't just any "spaceships", those are definitely meant to refer to the Sputnik satellites.

The first is Sputnik. The second is probably [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1 Vostok 1], with Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space. The third is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_2 Voskhod 2], with Aleksei Leonov, the first human to perform a spacewalk. [[User:CaseyG|CaseyG]] 01:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Dead on - good work! They definitely appear to be celebrating Russia's "firsts" in space. First man-made satellite, first human in space, and first spacewalk. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I let the time run down to 96 before getting bored, and nothing unusual happened when I shot the culprit. So it doesn't seem there are any other endings. Why the heck they think people need as much time as they give is totally and utterly beyond me - the amount of time is ridiculously high and takes forever to run down! - but whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I let it run down to 001 and shot the culprit — just the normal ending. Also, I agree: 1000 seconds is unnecessary. I will say, though, that the first time I played it I was completely clueless, so it was nice that I could take my time stumbling around and trying to figure out what was going on. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:::This is Forum fodder primarily, but I'll briefly add that being timed out when learning a game is really frustrating and turns me off, and that may be a reason behind TBC's use of such a long timeout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Locations, suspects, and items ==
Here are my attempts at identifying the locations, suspects, and items. I'm not sure of all of them, especially the ones with question marks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
===Locations===
*Aquarium
*Forest
*Museum (?)
*Siberia (thanks, [[Special:Contributions/70.116.132.84|70.116.132.84]])
*City
*Desert
*Beach
*Movie theater
*Pier

===Suspects===
*Butler
*Blue hat man
*Maid
*Blonde woman
*[[Wikipedia:John McEnroe|John McEnroe]] (I think — recall that Homestar [[:Image:Homestar JohnMcEnroe.PNG|previously dressed up as him]])
*Mechanic
*Old Woman
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Red hat man

===Items===
*[[Egg]]
*Potted plant
*Strawberry
*[[Alcohol|Beer]]
*Pencil
*Bomb
*Duffel bag
*Monkey wrench
*Slingshot
*Cat

I think once the locations, items, suspects are re-ordered, we can pull the stub tag off the article. Lots of great info and we have the basics now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Item Talk ==

I have noticed, if people talk about an item when you question them about the egg, talk about the item. They will then tell you a person, and a place. If the person is at that place with the item, they usually have the egg. If they ARN'T at that spot, the one who gave you the info usually has the egg. Anyone have this not happen? (Notice I said USUALLY)--[[User:Bobmuffins|Bobmuffins]] 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Painfully dumb question... ==

How do you play the game if you don't speak or read Russian?
:Actual game play requires no knowledge of Russian, since it done completely with pictures. The Russian writing is meaningless or poorly done, anyway. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

- Hey; erm, I have no real idea about wiki ettiquete but I just wanted to say that the Russian is all more or less correct and certainly not meaningless. Here goes: The title, 'gde yaitso' indeed means 'where is the/an egg?' (although the dash in the middle is not needed) - the reference to 'gde yaichko' that is made on the corresponding wiki article on this topic is wrong; 'yaichko' is a diminuitive form roughly equivalent to 'eggy'. 'Gde yaitso' i.e. as written in the game is the best translatoin for 'Where's an Egg?'. On the loading screen, 'televizionniy elektricheskiy' - 'televisual electrical' is fairly senseless but apart from that, the rest of the russian is correct. When you shoot the egg-haver, 'vinovnik' (criminal) appears, and then 'pozdravlenie' (congratulations). If you get it wrong, 'vinovnik' again appears, followed by 'gulag' (russians tend to use the simpler word 'lager'' but gulag is a russian acronym) and then 'igra zakonchenniy' - the only real example of incorrect grammar. It means 'game over' but should be 'igra zakonchennaya' to account for the feminine gender of 'igra'. Hardly 'meaningless or poorly done'. I was pretty surprised with the quality of the russian, to be honest
:: Since it clear you know Russian, and I definitely do not, I would bow to your superior knowledge. In this case, I would say writing up this information in the wiki directly would be much appreciated. (Perhaps under a translation section?) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Russian text is only used for the title screen and the "congraturatory" address. "Dialogue" in the game itself is handled through pictograms ("Blue Rabbit's Climate Chaos" comes to mind, although this is much more simplistic). Basically, you go around "investigating" each area, confirming which characters are where and which items they're holding, and questioning the characters about other characters and items; if you find someone who's lying, odds are he/she is the culprit, and you do what any good renegade Russian detective would: you shoot them! ^_^--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 19:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

: Actually, I find that about half the suspects lie, whether they have the egg or not. But really, since everyone either always lies or always tells the truth, all you have to do is find someone who gives you a clue about the egg and says even one other true thing. (Don't bother asking anyone, truthteller or liar, about him/herself or his/her own item, though.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

==Too many colors==
When you hover over a button, it gradients from gray to yellow (and back again when you remove) Thats waaaaay too many shades of yellow for a game like this. Maybe put this in remarks or goofs. I have bad edit etiquette :P

==Screen shot==
Since the game is out for reals and looks different from the preview shot that was originally up, shouldn't we use a screen shot of actual game play? Do we include both images on the page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I went ahead and replaced the old image with the new one, since that's what we did with [[Kid Speedy]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Maid ==
[[Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png|thumb|Totally a butcher.]]
Which person is supposed to be the maid? Process of elimination of all the other characters left a person who appears to be a butcher.--[[User:Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel|Another Freakin' Guy Named Daniel]] 21:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Also, which one is supposed to be the movie theater? Process of elimination left what resembles the Lincoln Memorial.

I think the one with the red rope and yellowish wall is the movie theater.- [[User:70.243.66.159|70.243.66.159]] 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC) (Everybody! Sorry, forgot to sign in...)

== Ending Screen ==

That's not a police station, it's Lenin's Mausoleum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum)
:Apparently we don't know too much 'bout Russia. Thanks for pointing that out! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Also the word vinovnik (виновник) would be better translated as "guilty person". Criminal is prestupnik (преступник) in Russian.

We would probably use "culprit" in English.--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 23:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

That "uniformed man" looks like Stalin [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Stalin_02.jpg]. Well, as much as 'good graphics' can allow, anyways ;). It's got his mustache. Given that the game seems to be set in Soviet Russia, there is more than a good chance that it's suppose to be Stalin. What does everyone else thing? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|23:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)}}

:I'm all for it. It looks enough like him to me, and it certainly fits with the Russian theme. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

::It seems very likely. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:Does anyone not think it's Stalin?

::I think it ''could'' be, but are we sure enough for this not to be considered undue speculation? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::To me, it has the following point for it being Stalin:
:::the setting is Soivet Russia
:::the medal is given out at Lenin's Mausoleum, and Stalin stood atop of Lenin's Mausoleum during the post-WWII victory parade (it's the kind of place a Soviet dictator would give out a medal)
:::The mustache and uniform look like Stalin's, and not like any other Soviet dictator (No other Soviet dictator had a mustach like that, although Lenin did have a goatee, he wasn't known for wearing a uniform and would, persumably, be in his tomb)
:::Stalin might actually want someone shot for stealing an egg (and I'm only half joking on that last one)
::I don't see any points against it being Stalin. I cannot discount it being some other uniformed mustachio'd Soviet authority figure, like some head of the KGB or something, but no others come to mind
::Does anyone know someone else that might fit that discritpion? {{unsigned|67.71.64.144|02:12, 18 July 2007}}

:::I '''strongly oppose''' the idea that it's Stalin. It's just a guy in a uniform. There were many of those if Soviet Russia, Lenin's tomb was used by every Soviet leader for parades, and Stalin was dead years before those spacecrafts were launched. I also see absoluetly no persuavive reason why it ''should'' be Stalin.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::::I see your point, but I don't think the timeline matters too much — John McEnroe wasn't even born when Sputnik was launched, for example. Rather, I think these other famous historical Russian appearances strengthen the case for it being Stalin. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Stalin is in this game, but not the uniformed man. It's the man pictured immediately above this thread.

== Suspect and location images ==

While the suspect and location images were originally icons, they have now been overwritten with full-sized images. Personally, I prefer the icons for three reasons:
#The full body characters are much taller than the rest of the images, which makes the table look a little lopsided.
#<s>The icon images are pixel-for-pixel, whereas there are some cropping issues with the full-sized images (compare the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716220648%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png butcher icon}} with the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/5/5b/20070716235952%21Where%27s_an_Egg_-_Suspects_-_Maid.png full-body butcher}})</s> (fixed)
#We don't need to illustrate every component of the game completely, just give an icon for identification purposes.
Does anyone agree, or are we happy with the staus quo? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: I think the table is fine as is, especially with the ability to expand the locations to a larger size. Perhaps making the size of the icons closer to the same size (using the item icons as a guide)? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

::The icons are fine by me, alhtough the cropping issues can easily be fixed. If you think reverting back to icons is the better choice, by all means, go for it. I don't see a problem with keeping the locations as full shots, however. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Names of People, Places and iTems ==

Using a decompiler, the names are '''Jessifer, Pall, Brodermaker, Mancuso, Damella, Deark, Gubby, Les and Joeff'''. The places are called '''Seward Lane, Hollway, A Room, Gym, Bank, Gumption Road, Upstairs, Nearby and Under'''. The items are called '''Bottle, Ball, Butterfly, Dog, Gym Bag, Fanny Pack, Frying Pan, Candlestick and Laptop'''. Not sure which is which. I might have another look later on when I'm home from school.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:That's crazy :P Especially since some of those names bear little resemblance to the items... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm more surprised they put all the names there. By the way, nice work on the [[looking old]] reference. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a Flash decompiler and I'm not finding these names anywhere in the image files. Where are YOU finding them? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: Never mind; I found them, but I see no indication of which is which, unless they define them in numerical order as the images appear (and who could tell - there aren't any bottles or balls to be seen anyway!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The internal names Loafing listed don't appear to actually be used anywhere... the only time these lists of names are even mentioned is that the list of placenames is added to a non-existant (or no-longer-existant) drop-down list on the map screen (possibly a stub, before they made the pretty buttons?). They seem to only be there for debugging purposes. However, it's reasonable to assume that, as debugging tools, they're in the same order as the numerical ids that everything's stored with, which'll make them:
{| border="0"
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Places
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Seward Lane || Aquarium
|-
| Hollway || Park
|-
| A Room || Icy Mountains
|-
| Gym || Bank
|-
| Bank || Beach
|-
| Gumption Road || Desert
|-
| Upstairs || City
|-
| Nearby || Art Museum
|-
| Under || Bridge
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | Items
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Bottle || Wrench
|-
| Ball || Beer
|-
| Butterfly || Cat
|-
| Dog || Slingshot
|-
| Gym Bag || Pencil
|-
| Fanny Pack || Gym Bag
|-
| Frying Pan || Bomb
|-
| Candlestick || Potted Plant
|-
| Laptop || Strawberry
|}
|
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! colspan="2" | People
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Their name !! Our name
|-
| Jessifer || Blonde Woman
|-
| Pall || Blue hat man
|-
| Brodermaker || Old Woman
|-
| Mancuso || Butler
|-
| Damella || Mechanic
|-
| Deark || Red hat man
|-
| Gubby || Butcher
|-
| Les || Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale
|-
| Joeff || John McEnroe
|}
|}
It seems clear that these debugging names were used ''well before'' the current art was made... it's odd that the one named "Bank" is one ''after'' the real Bank, and the "Gym Bag" is one ''before'' the real Gym Bag... but that's the order they are in the Flash file. I don't think the names warrant mentioning in the article... which is why I made the full tables here on the talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Manual ==

The manual page is really funny in the way, that its English translation is more correct then the original Russian text :)

* The word at the top of the page "Узнать" (Uznat') is correct, it really does mean "Find out";
* The line "Кто лежит?" (Kto lezhit?) is a mistake and actually means here "Who is lying on the ground?" rather then "Who is telling lies/lying?". This is because in English the verb "to lie" can mean both of those things, but in Russian it's "лежать" (lezhat') for "lying on the ground" and "лгать" (lgat') for "telling the lies/lying". So the line should be "Кто лжет?" (Kto lzhet?);
* The line "Кто говорит правду?" (Kto govorit pravdu?) is correct, it does mean "Who tells the truth?";
* The line "Кто имеет яйцо?" (Kto imeet yaico?) is a bit incorrect and means "Who owns an egg?". "У кого яйцо?" (U kogo yaico?) could be translated as "Who has the egg?"

Another note: The Arbat ST. (location of the seller) is a well-known street in Moscow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbat_Street).
: This would be excellent information for the [[Some Type of Online Auction]] page, where the Arbat Street reference is already noted. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Musie Theater? ==

I'm quite confident that the image given the label "Theater" is actually the museum. It looks just like an art museum display and... not at all like a movie theater. The other one's kind of ambiguous as to WHAT it is, but I'm quite sure on the "Theater". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:The other one looks like some kinda government building. Maybe if someone could translate the Russian on the building, it would shed some light on this? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:For now, I swapped the Theater one (pictures with a velvet rope) in the correct place. (Compare with the theater in [[the movies]]) I did notice that the one current marked "Museum" has some Russian writing on it. If someone would translate that, in addition to finding out what how the image is marked internally, for now it's probably better to leave the images where they are. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::You... you swapped it from my swap. The one with the ropes looks more like an art museum. Why would the ropes be so close to the pictures otherwise? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I have seen plenty of movie theaters that have velvet ropes along the walls; they are used when they have people line up before the start of movie for a major opening. The other picture is clearly ''not'' a movie theater, so we need to wait until we have further info. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: But who was it that called it a "movie theater" in the first place? US! There is no "further info" besides maybe someone with a flash compiler or a translation of the pillar building. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::: Know what? Forget it. I don't want an edit war. I'm compromising with simple descriptions no one can dispute. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks from [[#Names of People, Places and iTems|above]] that one of these (probably the one with the pillars) is a bank, but who knows with the weirdness of the rest of the names. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:If the one current marked as Museum is indeed a bank, I would have no problem making the other a museum. Right now, it's unclear. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, so can we call the one with the velvet ropes a "Museum" now? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that sounds reasonable. At first, I thought it was a movie theater, but the more I look at it, the more those look like pieces of art. Especially the one on the left. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::And y'know - who named that last one a "pier"? Looks more like a bridge to me. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The gray one with what looks like "bEPER" on it is a bank. "берег" is Russian for "bank" according to some online English-Russian dictionary I just Googled. I submit that the one with the velvet ropes is an art musuem. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:About the museum one, I think it's an ''art'' museum. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Glitch or not? ==

Someone on the forums mentioned a glitch where, if you click on the top left corner a lot of times as the game starts, you can win with a timer score of 000. This is only if the person in the aquarium has the egg. I tried it and it worked, but I'm not sure if it's really a glitch or not. Thoughts? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:Additionally, each time I've done it (by clicking the area of the screen where the Aquarium icon and gun icon overlap) the timer freezes at 000, but at the "Win" screen the timer reads 999 and all three spacecraft appear. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:: Just reproduced it myself, although given other Flash-related artifacts like this, I imagine that the way-way-way-way-way-too-generous timer starts at 1000 and it just chops off the first digit... and perhaps drops it down to a normal value afterwards. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Don't know if it's really a "glitch" if it only works when the suspect in the ''aquarium'' has the egg. That would make it more a matter of luck. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Glitches that only happen under specific circumstances are still glitches. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but if the person in the aquarium has the egg, all you need to do is keep clicking the top left to finish the game in less than a second. That combined with the explanation you gave earlier about the timer actually being 1000 seconds, ''I'' think, completely disproves the glitch theory. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::The internal timer variable starts at 999 (which is what you see at the "win" screen), but the display in-game starts at 000 (not 1000) and is only updated a second after the game starts, the first time the "update timer" function's called. I think this qualifies as a minor glitch (namely that the display doesn't match the actual timer value for a second after the game starts). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Jack Orlando ==

Can anyone confirm the "Jack Orlando" Real-World Reference? The screenshots I've seen of that game look absolutely nothing like this one. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Dead People Tell Tales? ==

When I play the game, I killed someone and ask him about something and he replyed with a + sign. This should go into remarks I think. - Toonypie from the Fanstuff Wiki.

: It's a red cross - they're only capable of answering questions with requests for medical aid, seeing as how they've been shot and all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==5 Time win with no intention==
I won 5 times in this game just by going around and shooting 3 random people. It was awesome. YOU should try it!-MikeControl
:I think more people would be interested if you told them on the IRC channel. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
: You have a one-in-three chance of getting it right by shooting random people. Those aren't terrible odds, so your five times in a row was just luck. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:: That was sheer luck. I accidentally got 998 by clicking the gun after clicking the aquarium. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::(1/3)^5 = 1/243. That's some luck. {{unsigned|68.121.111.150|12:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)}}
:::He never actually said he won five times in a row, just that he won five times. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Fabergé eggs? ==

When you talk about Russian eggs being stolen, it's almost certain that this is a reference to [[wikipedia:Fabergé_Eggs|Fabergé eggs]]. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:I guess it could be a reference to Fabergé eggs. But it could also be [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think the egg being stolen is just a joke (because no one would shoot a person to get back a stolen ''egg''). {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Strategy shortcut ==

:''Because they cannot provide you with useful information, it is worthwhile to shoot the first two suspects you know to be lying. One of them might just have the egg.''
I'm not sure why this keeps getting removed. It seems like a reasonable strategy to me. After you've played the game a bit, you know you really only need one bullet. The other two are just going to waste. Why not use them on the liars? Their info is no good, and you may get lucky and finish with a better time. If it doesn't work out, then you've still got your last bullet to use in the conventional way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:What's a waste of time is shooting suspects who may not have the egg. It's much better to be sure who the real culprit is than to leave it to luck, even if it turns out to be someone you've seen before. Like [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=599475&highlight=#599475 this trick] I use. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::It takes just over one extra second to shoot the liars. That seems an acceptable tradeoff for the amount of time it would take to keep going normally. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Well of course you can use any other strategy and just shoot any liars you come across. But that doesn't make this a strategy in itself. Any player could simply decide to do that; it doesn't take any real thought. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 22:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No real thought? ''Au contraire!'' The suggestion is not to shoot people ''indiscriminantly'', but to shoot the first two liars you see (which takes some determining). You're not going back to a location where a liar is anyway—unless you have to confront the egg holder there. You could save a lot of time by going ahead and using your spare bullets before you leave the location. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Uh, that's exactly what I just said. This does not take any "real thought" because it is not a strategy as much as it is an add-on to another strategy. Yes it takes "some determining" to recognize liars, but methods for doing so are described in any strategy (including strategies we don't know). And it is not "worthwhile" to shoot the first known liars because it is so uncertain whether they would actually have the egg; the point of a solid strategy is ensuring correctness. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Note that the way the game works, you don't lose anything for shooting innocent civilians, except the brief second it takes for the detour of the mouse. You only lose out if you get it wrong three times. So a strategy doesn't have to be certain or get it right first time to be "correct" or "worthwhile". The only thing you're graded on is how long it takes you to find the right culprit, on your third guess or better. Anything that speeds that up is worthwhile. Just 'cause shooting people "just in case" or guessing in detective work is generally considered a bad idea in real life doesn't mean it isn't sensible in the context of the game. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'm inclined to agree with [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. You don't lose anything if you shoot two liars, except maybe a second, and the odds of getting lucky and shooting the guilty party are not all that bad. Additionally many people would not necessarily think of "Wasting" bullets on innocent civilians, so it is a worthwhile thing to record. — {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 20:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitles? ==

I don't know if Where's an Egg? is one of the games that can be subtitled, but if so it could be neat to include approximate translations of the Russian...

My guess is that it's not possible to subtitle, though... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your guess is wrong. {{User:Mee/sig}} 22:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

:Well, partially — I was only able to subtitle [[Subtitles:wheresanegg/en|part of it]], since the rest of the text is embedded in movie files, I think. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

At the begining, when the Videlectrix logo apears, but before the guy shoots at it, the music playing is The Volga Boatmen's Song, traditional Russian song.

:That's awesome. (I just verified it) Great find! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Ron Cumberdale ==

The character listed as "Kid Speedy" has red hair, but the real Kid Speedy has brown/gray hair. Ron Cumberdale from Peasant's Quest, however, has the same shirt AND red hair. Edit? [[User:75.119.20.104|75.119.20.104]] 01:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:<s>I agree. I think "Kid Speedy" is just an updated version of [[Ron Cumberdale]].</s> On second thought, I disagree. Look at these three photos.

<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png|WAE? suspect
Image:kidspeedy.PNG|Kid Speedy
Image:roncumberdale.PNG|Ron Cumberdale
</gallery>

The skin tone, dark red shorts, same darkred/white striped shirt, and red shoes all match. It's Kid Speedy. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

As the one who originally suggested it as Kid Speedy, I concur with the original. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

:I agree — I think it's Kid Speedy. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I was agreeing with the first one. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 04:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. In that case, I disagree — I think it's Kid Speedy. He's fat and has shorts instead of pants... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I just edited it and put Kid Speedy back but kept the Ron Cumberdale thing in. Basically, we don't know who it is unless someone got told it was Kid Speedy/Ron Cumberdale by TBC. They're the only ones who truly know. — {{User:Znex/sig}} 09:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

==Dynamic Music==

Has anyone else noticed how there is a base music track, and depending on which suspect you are interrogating, changes the extra line on top of it? eg, when you're interrogating blue guy with red hat, there's a sliding squarewave melody, and at the end when you get the medal, it has all the lines.
:Ummm...there's already a section about this back up the page. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Explanation about the Missing Points in my Last Edit ==

If around one hour ago, you were wondering why that the red cross reply point and the Stalin point were missing, I can explain everything. Before, I think I reverted the page or something by accident to the last time that it had Kid Speedy in the characters thing and that version happened to not have those things. So sorry about that. Sorry. — {{User:Znex/sig}}

== Not The Egg ==

It seems rather clear thar "an egg" has an integral article--it is refered to as such even in situations where "the egg" would be more appropriate, as it is clear this egg is the only egg in the game. --[[User:71.221.232.189|71.221.232.189]] 17:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

homsar

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:56:53 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Fast Forward */ Removed item about Heavy Lourde, as it is already in Trivia.

{{sbenav|2|some kinda robot|butt IQ}}

[[Image:sbemail2.PNG|thumb|"Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Baaaaayaad?"]]

{{aboutemail}} {{forcharacter|Homsar}}

A misspelling of "Homestar" leaves Strong Bad attempting to kill Homsar.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Tandy 400}}

'''Date:''' 2001

'''Running Time:''' 0:46

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400!!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing, types "run Strongbad's__email"}'' I'm gonna check my email all of the time, doo doo doo...

<blockquote class="tandy email">Hi Strong Bad, 
If you hate Homsar so much, 
why don't you kill him? 
-Vinnie C.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says the last line as "From Vinnie C."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what, Vinnie? You're right. I'll be right back. ''{gets up}''

''{Cut to Homsar standing in the Field. Strong Bad enters the frame in the foreground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Homsar!

'''HOMSAR:''' ''{faces Strong Bad}'' Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Baaaaayaad?

''{Strong Bad leaves the frame and the Heavy Lourde falls on Homsar, completely crushing him. Cut back to Tandy 400.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sits down, typing}'' Oh man, Vinnie. That feels so much better. Thanks a lot! ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so until next time, keep sending me your questions, and I will keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling. I mean, answer them.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down, and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad"}''

== Fun Facts ==
[[Image:Sbemail2 old emails button.PNG|150px|thumb|"old emails" button]]
===Trivia===
*This is the first email in which Strong Bad makes fun of someone's [[Poorly Written Emails|spelling]].
*This is also the first email that shows an area outside of the [[computer room]].
*This is Homsar's first appearance.
*This is the first email where a character other than Strong Bad appears.
*This is the first appearance of the [[Heavy Lourde]].
*The back button at the end of this email used to go to the games menu instead of the Strong Bad Email menu (an "old emails" button used to be present that would link to the old emails). After [[flashback]] was released, [[The Brothers Chaps]] removed the old emails button and fixed the back link.

=== Remarks ===
* Strong Bad's mouth doesn't move when he says "doo doo doo."
* When Homsar turns to face Strong Bad, only his head moves. His body stays put.
* The Flash file for this email is the smallest in terms of file size at just over 100 kilobytes.
* The Heavy Lourde falls from [[Hammerspace|nowhere]].

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's mask doesn't have laces on the back of it when he goes outside.
*One of Homsar's legs is bigger than the other.
*Strong Bad's neck cannot be seen when he pulls away from the Tandy.

===Fast Forward===
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], Homsar leaves a message thanking [[Marzipan]] for the flowers she sent him while he was in the hospital. It's implied that he was in the hospital because the Heavy Lourde had been dropped on him in this email.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail2.html|watch "homsar"]]
*[[HR:sbemail2.swf|view the Flash file for "homsar"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

Talk:Ever and More

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:54:09 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Gallery of Helmets */ good idea

=="Cold Ones Light" poster==
In the background of when Homestar opens the meeting, there's a poster for "Cold Ones Light." The logo looks remarkably familiar but I can't put my thumb of what brand it's suppose to be parodying. Anyone know? I think it should go in the "Real World References" part, perhaps. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Reminds me of the [http://images.google.com/images?q=old%20style%20beer Old Style beer logo], but that's a Wisconsin/Chicago area brew, so I'm not sure that TBC would be familiar with it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:On the other hand, it is ''very'' close — it has the red and blue diagonal background on a shield, a similar font, and a red ribbon coming from the bottom. I think this is too similar to be a coincidence, so I'm gonna add it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I personally think it's just a coincidence, but I don't mind leaving it for the time being; at least until further discussion is made regarding it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, they look too similar to me to pass it off as mere coincidence... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gallery of Helmets ==

Should there be a gallery of the helmets the Brothers are wearing?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I second that idea, but I haven't had much luck figuring out most out the helmets.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Loading, Friend ==

Is there any reason why the loading screen for this toon is "loading, friend,". If there is, please post it [[Irregular Loading Screens|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
*Probably because this toon is about a type of Brotherhood. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Pants Lawsuit ==

I have severe doubts about that reference. For one, the dry cleaners lost his lucky pants, Bubs just can't fit in them. And for two, The Brothers Chaps very rarely make references to current news stories, one so innocuous as this one wouldn't be a prime candidate for an exception. We're ''really'' stretching it here.

:I agree with your skepticism; here's the fact as I removed it, in case people disagree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
Bubs's remark about being in a bad mood because he hasn't been able to fit his lucky pants might be a reference to a news story about a Washington DC Judge who sued a dry cleaner for $54 million dollars for losing his 'lucky' pants. The case was thrown out June 25, 2007 - one day before this toon was posted.
</blockquote>

== doodoo ==

The transcript currently says that Strong Bad says "that's horse pocky, you fools!" I'm 99.9% sure that it's actually "horse pucky", which is semi-obscure slang for horse poop, aka a variation on bullsh-t. Not only does this make more sense than "horse pocky", but one of the characters on M*A*S*H used to say it, and references to 70s/80s sitcoms are pretty standard on this site. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 13:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. It should be changed. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Also agreed; I changed it to "horse puckey". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== BUBRUB! ==

Remember that news broadcast about the "whistle tips"? [http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA It's on YouTube]. The guy's name on the news is Bubb Rubb. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws and the ointment is only named after Bubs himself, but when he held it up and I read the label, I immediately thought, "The whistles go whooooo!" [[User:William|William]] 14:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

-I don't think so. Rubs and ointments are a common theme through the Homestar Runner series, given that 'Bub(s)' rhymes with 'rub', I don't think any further explanation is needed. [[User:194.80.32.10|194.80.32.10]] 14:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::Personally, I'm willing to allow it, because it is a fairly well-known meme. It ''might'' be a coincidence, but I think it's fairly likely that it's not. I'd leave the fact, but make sure it says that it ''could'' be a reference rather than it ''is'' a reference. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 17:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this reference and I think it should be STUFF'd, if not removed outright. Thank you. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 19:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coldson like Molson? ==

Could the Coldson Lite can be a reference to Molson beer?
:Yes. The connection is already mentioned on the [[Cold Ones]] page, actually. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Name ==

The name should be changed. I think something like "B.O.D.H." or "The Helmet Club" would be better until it shows up on the main page. I don't think ever and more was at all a significant part of the toon. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 20:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:We usually use the names as they appear on the [[HR:toons.html|official toons menu]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Oh yeah sorry. I hadn't cleared my cache and I didn't see anything on the toons menu. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 21:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:the paper

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:50:11 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Uruk? */ Gramma!!

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Yes. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It was me who put it! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::: As it's noted in the Easter Eggs section, it was removed. And re-added. And re-removed. And re-re-added. And so forth. And now [[STUFF]]ed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds too close to Gilgamesh to be a coincidence. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Dribble, Dribble, Shoot! ==
''The following is reconstructed from a STUFF page. Brackets indicate where intent was inferred rather than stated.''
<div style="text-align:center"><hr width="70%"/></div>
:''The rhythmic Easter Egg is a reference to [[One Two, One Two]], which was released immediately before this email.''
[This is] already noted right above the Easter egg. [[HRWiki:Once and Only Once|Once and Only Once]] applies. [It should therefore not be noted in inside references.] {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::According to Wiki standards, this has to be mentioned in the Inside References section of the article. Perhaps it would be better if the link above the Easter egg was removed and this was added [in inside references] instead. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Once and only once is fine with me. {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::[The Chort]: Could you direct me to where in the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] it says that? Because, as far as I can tell, it doesn't. {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What I meant was that it would be better if it was mentioned in the Inside References section because that's where all the inside references are meant to be placed. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Once and Only Once is the most misunderstood concept on the wiki. It does ''not'' mean "link once" (a separate idea stated elsewhere), but rather "don't duplicate work unnecessarily". A good example is the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] page, which uses a template for its transcript to avoid duplicating the work done for [[comic]]. The real question is, is having more than one link actually redundant in this case, or does it help the reader? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree with The Chort. It's an inside reference, so it should be noted in inside references. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny blackness? ==

"And who knows how many times you saved my shiny black keister?"

Is it just me, or does this imply that Strong Bad is not wearing pants, and that his skin color is actually black (at least for his lower body)? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 17:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:the paper

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:12:29 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Uruk? */ But it has to be a pun on Gilgamesh

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Yes. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It was me who put it! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::: As it's noted in the Easter Eggs section, it was removed. And re-added. And re-removed. And re-re-added. And so forth. And now [[STUFF]]ed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds to close to Gilgamesh to be a coincidence. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:the paper

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:10:01 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* As I was reading... */ Tis there.

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Yes. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:the paper

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:09:11 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Nightlight */ I vote night.

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Ketchup

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 08 May 2007 03:03:56 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: My THouhgt

{{ttbd}}

'''Ketchup''' is an extremely common real-world item. It is not notable within the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work.

'''Delete.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:But it comes up alot in Homestar Runner. [[Eggs]] are a common item, too, but they have their own page. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 18:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
::Eggs appear EVERYWHERE and in all sorts of odd rolls. Ketchup mostly appears with fries.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 03:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::Sure, there are many [[:Category:Generic food and drinks|generic food and drinks]] that are notable wihtin the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. Ketchup isn't one of them. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:How is Ketchup not one of them? Explain that to me. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 18:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

::A generic food has to have quite a few appearances before it becomes a running gag, simply because it's generic. In this case, I agree that there aren't nearly enough. However, there ''is'' a running gag for a specific brand of ketchup: [[Quite Fancy 'Chup]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:I didn't put all of the appearances up there. There are more. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 18:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:Agree. I think Ketchup should have at least 3 more appearances before it is a good page or play a major role in a Strong Bad Email or toon. But for now: '''Delorted!''' {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'm thinking this deserves to be...'''Delteated!'''--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:It's time to let it go. '''Deleted'''! --[[User:Collin Diver|Collin Diver]] 22:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:Dude there are like 50 apearences of ketchup. I just didnt put them on there. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

::I think you guys hate me. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Jangles, it has nothing to do with you; we're just discussing the merit of the page. It's unrelated to whether or not you created it, so don't take it personally. Talk atcha later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

::::No, like every single page I've made has been deleted, except for 2. thats like, 2 out of 10. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 21:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, man, it is not you, dude. It is just the article is too generic. '''Delete''', but don't take it personal. You are still cool. B-) --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I don't know specifically which pages you created in the past, but this happens to a lot of new pages. The problem is that we already have almost all the ones we need (with a few exceptions). Sorry, though. I know it can be frustrating. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

But Ketchup still comes up alot. Like [[Eggs]]. so, '''KEEP!!!'''--[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 21:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

:Jangles, just about every long-time user has had something they worked on get deleted. It's not personal. Nobody hates you. That said, here's the problem I see with this article: On the one hand, yes, there are a lot of appearances, enough to probably justify an article, but on the other hand, ketchup is such a common real-world item that of ''course'' it shows up lots of times. The question we have to answer is, is it really that notable? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

'''EGGS COME UP IN THE REAL WORLD TOO. ALOT MORE THEN KETCHUP.'''and yes, it is worthy of its own page. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 21:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
:Jangles, please stop complaining. It's got nothing to do with you. We are deciding. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

::im not complaining. and i understand that its not about me. these people are gonna make me have to cuss somebody out. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 21:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Then maybe you need to go outside or watch TV for an hour. Editing the wiki while angry is a recipe for bad news. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah man, and '''I''' should know from the past. Swim away! Swim away! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

ok --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 21:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

'''Keep'''. This page used to be on the [[:Category:Food and drinks|Food and drinks]] category, where it obviously didn't belong. Now that I moved it to [[:Category:Generic food and drinks|Generic food and drinks]] it becomes plainly visible that this page belong in our database. There are several pages on that category that are about food items that are as generic as Ketchup, have even less appearances, and are 100% legitimate ([[Cake]], [[Cinnamon]], [[French Fries]], [[Peas]], [[Prawns]] and [[Tofu]]). Ketchup was referenced by name by several characters and even have jokes related to them (such as ketchup bombs and Strong Bad putting too much on his fries) so they are not just a background item. The [[HRWiki:Deletion Policy|Deletion Policy]] clearly states: "''[Generic items] needs at least five to ten appearances and must be of at least moderate importance to the toon (i.e. not just in the background and never mentioned) in half of its appearances.''" 
For all these reasons, I want to hold off the deletion of this page against consensus (Right now it's the creator of the page and I against a lot of other users) and let my point be addressed. The only reason I saw for deleting it is that it is too generic, which I clearly countered here. Let's give this page a fair trial. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. However, should we change this page to something related to the actual ''bottle'' of ketchup? That might clear things up a bit. - {{User:Pants 3000/sig}} 20:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
:If we go over page guidelines, a running gag or a item should have 5-10 appearances or 1 major appearance to be a page. Ketchup fits that rule. So keep. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::There was a strong support for this page to be deleted. I'm not going to remove the TBD until at least one more user supports to keep is. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:09, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
<s>:::I wrote near the bottom that we should keep it. Can I remove it now?</s> I forgot to check the dates before I said that. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

::::I agree with Elcool. While some appearances (like in Date Nite) are completely uninteresting, Ketchup <s>often</s> sometimes supports jokes (<s>Strong Bad's fake finger</s> fake blood, for example). I'm <s>all</s> for '''keep'''.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::I still think that (outside of Quite Fancy 'Chup) the references to ketchup are too few and too generic to merit their own article — I'm standing by my previous vote to '''delete'''. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

::::::I'm not really convinced of the merits of this article. Whereas Cake, Peas, Prawns and many of the other foods we have as articles appear in peculiar situations, ketchup is used in everyday situations (except that computer time, of course). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

== Merge ==

I think it should stay, or it needs a major rewrite. We also need an image, more before the list of appearances and maybe merge Quite Fancy Chup with this. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

Keep. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, merge the Quite Fancy 'Chup page with this. Oh ,and thanks for the help, Sam. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 22:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::N.O! (No Problem) {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::Or, we could delete the Fancy 'Chup article, and put a section about it in this article. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 12:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Hello? Where are all those Van Peoples? That were talking to me. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Merge Quite Fancy 'Chup into it, then keep. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::Yes. Si. Um, Yes. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Definitely no merge. These are separate and should be separate on the wiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Agree with no merging. No opinion beyond that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Jangles5150

Geshmalderborgen — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:17:50 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* I got one... */ space

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== Using Show Preview ==
Hello Jangles5150, I see that you have made several consecutive edits to the same page. I want to point out the Show Preview button. It's right next to the Save Page button when you edit. You should use it whenever you are making a lot of experimental edits, for example when you are trying to get formatting right. Using the Show Preview button is quicker and easier than saving and clicking "edit" again, and will keep [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] and page histories from being flooded. Thanks, {{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Your vote ==

Hey, your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Periodic_Table_of_Candy_Elements&curid=21317&diff=415841&oldid=306575&rcid=367045 opinion] is appreciated but note that the last edit to [[Talk:The Periodic Table of Candy Elements]] was in April. I think this vote was decided by now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Revenge is no way to go ==

I see you wrote a comment on the Old-Timey template. It was revengeful since you were trying to get revenge on me for Ketchup and The Decemberween Stick. Please don't use revenge on anybody just because they nominated or deleted your article. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} '''P.S''':Great ideas!
:Sam the Man, I'm seeing nothing vengeful in Jangles's comments, just arguments against that template's inclusion. Please [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|assume good faith]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

== Signature ==

If you want to put <nowiki>{{words+help}}</nowiki> next to your username when you sign your name, you should get a signature. For more help, look at mine or click on signature on the help page. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Jangles, are you listening to me? Please get a signature if you want to put <nowiki>{{words+help}}</nowiki> next your name on a talk page. If you put words+help next to your signature again, I don't know what will happen. It will be nothing bad. Please do so. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::why? What damage is it causing? words means talk, and helps means contributes. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::No damage at all — creating a preset signature is only a convenience for you, not a requirement. If you decide you want to do this, [[Help:Signature|here are instructions]], but you're completely free to keep doing it manually if you want. Laters! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Wait, i don't understand: why was he mad about it? i already tried to make one, like a month ago, and it didnt work.--[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:30, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I don't think he's mad — I wouldn't worry about it. What didn't work? I'd be happy to help you out, if you'd like. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::i put some coler in it and changed the font, but when i tried it out it just said user:jangles5150/sig, and thats it. no link or anything. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Okay — go to [[Special:Preferences]], and make sure that <nowiki>{{User:Jangles5150/sig}}</nowiki> is on the "Signature:" line (and that the "Enable raw signatures" box is checked). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
ok. i will. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:I did. now what? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::Looks like it's working — nice work :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::How do i put icons and coler and stuff in it? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::You can find all that info at [[Help:Signature]] — play around with it, and let me know if you encounter any specific issues, and I'd be happy to help. One other thing I'll mention if you're going to play around with it: right now, your sig is right on the edge of the [[HRWiki:Signature|maximum length]]. While you're changing it, it would be best if you could make it a tiny bit shorter (e.g. by putting "words" and "helps" in a smaller font). Here's a sigbox to let you know how you're doing:
::::{{sigbox|User:Jangles5150/sig}}
::::Anyway, have fun! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Thank you very much. i really appreciatiate it. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::You're welcome :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I get angry some times. I'm sorry. I wasn't mad or going to do anything. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
No worries man. it wont let me upload an image. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm — you tried using [[Special:Upload]]? What happened? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::No i have not.... but i will. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::It just says '".bmp" is not a recommended image file format.'. soo, what does that mean? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, you need to save your image in a different format, like PNG or JPG. You can do that with MSPaint, I hear, if you're using a Windows computer. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Or [http://www.Irfanview.com Irfanview]. Way better then anything! Well, what image do you want? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::::im using MSPaint for it. im using an image of homestars head, and the cheat. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::What toon or sbemail? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
i got it off the internet. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:How about these images? [[Image:update-hr.png|20px]] and [[Image:The-cheat-small.png|20px]] — maybe they're not what you're looking for, but it would save you the trouble of uploading different ones... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::those are the exzact ones i was talking about. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I'll help you if you need it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::How about this? [[Image:update-hr.png|20px]] [[Image:The-cheat-small.png|20px]] [[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User talk:Jangles5150|words]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::::No, get rid of the words helps thing, and make hr's head on the left and link to my talk page, and put the C. on the right and link to my contribs. if its not too much. --Jangles5150
::::::Here's the section that explains what you're trying to do: [[Help:Signature#Changing the target of images' links]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
It didnt Work. --Jangles5150
:What happened? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::I can't really explain. can you just give me the code and stuff and i can copy and paste it into my sig page. --Jangles5150
:::Sure: <code><nowiki>[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c6/update-hr.png/20px-update-hr.png][[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]</nowiki></code> will produce

:::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c6/update-hr.png/20px-update-hr.png][[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]

:::Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks man. and you too Sam The Man. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Just one more question: How do i put color in it? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:Here's what you're looking for: [[Help:Signature#Colors and fonts]]. You can find several three-digit color codes to replace "hexcode" with [[Help:Color codes|here]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::It worked. thanks. to both of you. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::No problem. Keep on tranglin, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::No problem. Keep up the good work. Ketchup will be a page with no deletion! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
== Are you sure ==

Hey Jangles. I would really like you to join my club. I promise you I will help you with anything you want. If you wanted to be a sysop, would be kind of like me a little. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Sure man, I'll join your club. But your comment abour sysops doesn't make sense to me. Thanks again for the help with my sig. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 16:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== I got one... ==

Number one is "Suurender" by Cheap Trick. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, dude! my bands doing that song. try some other ones. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 19:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

:Ooh, #2 is [[Office Space]] — Lumbergh says that line to Milton. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

::Nice. yeah. thats it. i love that movie. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 19:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Ooh! Ooh! I know numba 3! It's [[Wikipedia:Psycho (1960 film)|Psycho]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:04, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::yep. Norman bates says it. try some others! --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 11:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Number 5 is Jeff Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

Number 4 is from "Dazed and Confused." Some guy called Wood[[Names ending in -erson|erson]] said that. Thank you [http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22I+love+them+Redheads!%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Google].{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 02:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Jangles5150

Geshmalderborgen — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:16:54 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* I got one... */ Me too, but I kinda cheated.

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== Using Show Preview ==
Hello Jangles5150, I see that you have made several consecutive edits to the same page. I want to point out the Show Preview button. It's right next to the Save Page button when you edit. You should use it whenever you are making a lot of experimental edits, for example when you are trying to get formatting right. Using the Show Preview button is quicker and easier than saving and clicking "edit" again, and will keep [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] and page histories from being flooded. Thanks, {{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Your vote ==

Hey, your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Periodic_Table_of_Candy_Elements&curid=21317&diff=415841&oldid=306575&rcid=367045 opinion] is appreciated but note that the last edit to [[Talk:The Periodic Table of Candy Elements]] was in April. I think this vote was decided by now. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Revenge is no way to go ==

I see you wrote a comment on the Old-Timey template. It was revengeful since you were trying to get revenge on me for Ketchup and The Decemberween Stick. Please don't use revenge on anybody just because they nominated or deleted your article. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} '''P.S''':Great ideas!
:Sam the Man, I'm seeing nothing vengeful in Jangles's comments, just arguments against that template's inclusion. Please [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|assume good faith]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

== Signature ==

If you want to put <nowiki>{{words+help}}</nowiki> next to your username when you sign your name, you should get a signature. For more help, look at mine or click on signature on the help page. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Jangles, are you listening to me? Please get a signature if you want to put <nowiki>{{words+help}}</nowiki> next your name on a talk page. If you put words+help next to your signature again, I don't know what will happen. It will be nothing bad. Please do so. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::why? What damage is it causing? words means talk, and helps means contributes. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::No damage at all — creating a preset signature is only a convenience for you, not a requirement. If you decide you want to do this, [[Help:Signature|here are instructions]], but you're completely free to keep doing it manually if you want. Laters! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Wait, i don't understand: why was he mad about it? i already tried to make one, like a month ago, and it didnt work.--[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:30, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I don't think he's mad — I wouldn't worry about it. What didn't work? I'd be happy to help you out, if you'd like. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::i put some coler in it and changed the font, but when i tried it out it just said user:jangles5150/sig, and thats it. no link or anything. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Okay — go to [[Special:Preferences]], and make sure that <nowiki>{{User:Jangles5150/sig}}</nowiki> is on the "Signature:" line (and that the "Enable raw signatures" box is checked). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
ok. i will. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 20:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:I did. now what? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::Looks like it's working — nice work :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::How do i put icons and coler and stuff in it? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::You can find all that info at [[Help:Signature]] — play around with it, and let me know if you encounter any specific issues, and I'd be happy to help. One other thing I'll mention if you're going to play around with it: right now, your sig is right on the edge of the [[HRWiki:Signature|maximum length]]. While you're changing it, it would be best if you could make it a tiny bit shorter (e.g. by putting "words" and "helps" in a smaller font). Here's a sigbox to let you know how you're doing:
::::{{sigbox|User:Jangles5150/sig}}
::::Anyway, have fun! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Thank you very much. i really appreciatiate it. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::You're welcome :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I get angry some times. I'm sorry. I wasn't mad or going to do anything. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
No worries man. it wont let me upload an image. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm — you tried using [[Special:Upload]]? What happened? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::No i have not.... but i will. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::It just says '".bmp" is not a recommended image file format.'. soo, what does that mean? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, you need to save your image in a different format, like PNG or JPG. You can do that with MSPaint, I hear, if you're using a Windows computer. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Or [http://www.Irfanview.com Irfanview]. Way better then anything! Well, what image do you want? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::::im using MSPaint for it. im using an image of homestars head, and the cheat. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::What toon or sbemail? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
i got it off the internet. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:How about these images? [[Image:update-hr.png|20px]] and [[Image:The-cheat-small.png|20px]] — maybe they're not what you're looking for, but it would save you the trouble of uploading different ones... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::those are the exzact ones i was talking about. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I'll help you if you need it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::How about this? [[Image:update-hr.png|20px]] [[Image:The-cheat-small.png|20px]] [[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User talk:Jangles5150|words]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::::No, get rid of the words helps thing, and make hr's head on the left and link to my talk page, and put the C. on the right and link to my contribs. if its not too much. --Jangles5150
::::::Here's the section that explains what you're trying to do: [[Help:Signature#Changing the target of images' links]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
It didnt Work. --Jangles5150
:What happened? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::I can't really explain. can you just give me the code and stuff and i can copy and paste it into my sig page. --Jangles5150
:::Sure: <code><nowiki>[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c6/update-hr.png/20px-update-hr.png][[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]</nowiki></code> will produce

:::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/c/c6/update-hr.png/20px-update-hr.png][[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Jangles5150 http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/3/33/The-cheat-small.png/20px-The-cheat-small.png]

:::Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks man. and you too Sam The Man. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Just one more question: How do i put color in it? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:Here's what you're looking for: [[Help:Signature#Colors and fonts]]. You can find several three-digit color codes to replace "hexcode" with [[Help:Color codes|here]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::It worked. thanks. to both of you. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::No problem. Keep on tranglin, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::::No problem. Keep up the good work. Ketchup will be a page with no deletion! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
== Are you sure ==

Hey Jangles. I would really like you to join my club. I promise you I will help you with anything you want. If you wanted to be a sysop, would be kind of like me a little. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Sure man, I'll join your club. But your comment abour sysops doesn't make sense to me. Thanks again for the help with my sig. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 16:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

== I got one... ==

Number one is "Suurender" by Cheap Trick. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, dude! my bands doing that song. try some other ones. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 19:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

:Ooh, #2 is [[Office Space]] — Lumbergh says that line to Milton. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

::Nice. yeah. thats it. i love that movie. --[[User:Jangles5150|Jangles5150]] ([[User_talk:Jangles5150|words]]+[[Special:Contributions/Jangles5150|helps]]) 19:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Ooh! Ooh! I know numba 3! It's [[Wikipedia:Psycho (1960 film)|Psycho]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:04, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
::::yep. Norman bates says it. try some others! --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 11:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Number 5 is Jeff Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
Number 4 is from "Dazed and Confused." Some guy called Wood[[Names ending in -erson|erson]] said that. Thank you [http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22I+love+them+Redheads!%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Google].{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 02:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Office

Geshmalderborgen — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:00:44 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* One of the best articles? */ spell

{{featuredarticle}}

"Homestar's work area has not yet been featured"
Why... yes it has. It was in the email ISP. Duh.

== One of the best articles? ==

The Office is one of the worst articles I've ever read. It is merely a collection of sentences.

It has just a bunch of unconnected thoughts stapled together. It is comprised of brief recollections of every time it has appeared, probably in order.

It has separated paragraphs for no reason.

Am I making myself clear? {{unsigned|70.72.58.215|23:15, 30 May 2006}}

:If you don't feel that it's a good enough article JamesDean, feel free to improve it yourself, instead of simply criticizing other's work. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

:You are making it clear that you are an anonymous user who has a complaint. Other regular users underwent a process of nomination to make this a Featured Article. If you feel you'd like input in what makes a Featured Article, why not join in the discussions? You're more than welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
::I know this discussion is a year old, but maybe it would be a good time to rework this article and try to integrate the new content better. I think the main problem is that every time the Office is featured in a toon, a radical, new, and important detail of office life get showcased, and then we just append a paragraph about that somewhere in the article, without relating that to the other paragraphs. This paragraph showcases what I mean.
::<blockquote>Pom Pom is the "big cheese" of the company, and Homestar, being Pom Pom's friend, has admin privileges, although he still remains extremely obedient to Pom Pom.</blockquote>
::That seems to be completely out of sync with the paragraphs before and after. I wonder if we can't integrate this content better. If we improve the flow, the article as a whole will be much improved. What do you think?{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 01:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Office

Geshmalderborgen — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:00:26 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* One of the best articles? */

{{featuredarticle}}

"Homestar's work area has not yet been featured"
Why... yes it has. It was in the email ISP. Duh.

== One of the best articles? ==

The Office is one of the worst articles I've ever read. It is merely a collection of sentences.

It has just a bunch of unconnected thoughts stapled together. It is comprised of brief recollections of every time it has appeared, probably in order.

It has separated paragraphs for no reason.

Am I making myself clear? {{unsigned|70.72.58.215|23:15, 30 May 2006}}

:If you don't feel that it's a good enough article JamesDean, feel free to improve it yourself, instead of simply criticizing other's work. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

:You are making it clear that you are an anonymous user who has a complaint. Other regular users underwent a process of nomination to make this a Featured Article. If you feel you'd like input in what makes a Featured Article, why not join in the discussions? You're more than welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
::I know this discussion is a year old, but maybe it would be a good time to rework this article and try to integrate the new content better. I think the main problem is that every time the Office is featured in a toon, a radical, new, and important detail of office life get showcased, and then we just append a paragraph about that somewhere in the article, without relating that to the other paragraphs. This paragraph showcases what I mean.
::<blockquote>Pom Pom is the "big cheese" of the company, and Homestar, being Pom Pom's friend, has admin privileges, although he still remains extremely obedient to Pom Pom.</blockquote>
::That seems to be completely out of sync with the paragraphs bofore and after. I wonder if we can't integrate this content better. If we improve the flow, the article as a whole will be much improved. What do you think?{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 01:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Office

Geshmalderborgen — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:58:42 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* One of the best articles? */ Maybe we could rework it. Just a bit.

{{featuredarticle}}

"Homestar's work area has not yet been featured"
Why... yes it has. It was in the email ISP. Duh.

== One of the best articles? ==

The Office is one of the worst articles I've ever read. It is merely a collection of sentences.

It has just a bunch of unconnected thoughts stapled together. It is comprised of brief recollections of every time it has appeared, probably in order.

It has separated paragraphs for no reason.

Am I making myself clear? {{unsigned|70.72.58.215|23:15, 30 May 2006}}

:If you don't feel that it's a good enough article JamesDean, feel free to improve it yourself, instead of simply criticizing other's work. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

:You are making it clear that you are an anonymous user who has a complaint. Other regular users underwent a process of nomination to make this a Featured Article. If you feel you'd like input in what makes a Featured Article, why not join in the discussions? You're more than welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
::I know this discussion is a year old, but maybe it would be a good time to rework this article and try to integrate the new content better. I think the main problem is that every time the Office is feature, a radical, new and important detail of office life get showcased, and we just append a paragraph about that somewhere in the article. This paragraph showcases what I mean.
::<blockquote>Pom Pom is the "big cheese" of the company, and Homestar, being Pom Pom's friend, has admin privileges, although he still remains extremely obedient to Pom Pom.</blockquote>
::I wonder if we can't integrate this content better. If we improve the flow, the article as a whole will be much improved. What do you think?{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 01:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Mr. Bland

Geshmalderborgen — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:18:48 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Revert. Yes it is. See picture at top right.

[[Image:Bland.PNG|thumb|right|Hailing from the middle of the road!]]

'''Mr. Bland''' is a character from the [[Original Book|original book]] that started the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. In the book, he entered The Strongest Man in the World contest. [[Strong Sad]]'s head seems to be based on this much older character. His arms seem to spread sideways in default as opposed to resting on his side. Mr. Bland was apparently one of the most popular characters until he was [[Death|crushed]] by a falling [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] along with [[Señor]] (seen in [[origins]]).

He is voiced by [[Mike Chapman]].

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World Contest]]
*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]
*[[Strumstar Hammer]] ([[kids' book]] Easter egg)
*Email [[flashback]]
*Email [[origins]]
*[[Strongest Man in the World]] - Flash remake of the original book.

{{clear}}
==Character Evolution==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Info !! Created !! Appearances !! What's Changed?
|-
| [[Image:mr_bland.PNG|200px]] || Original design || 1996 || [[Original Book]]; ''[[Strumstar Hammer]] ([[kids' book]] Easter egg); '' ''[[flashback]]''; ''[[origins]]''|| N/A
|-
| [[Image:MLS Bland.PNG|200px]] || Second design || 1999 || [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] || His shirt is now green, his skin is peach colored, and his head has become more ovular. Some shadowing has also been added.

|-
|[[Image:bland.png|200px]] || The current Mr. Bland || 2006 || [[Strongest Man in the World]] || This is a redesign of the original Mr. Bland. His eyes now gleam, and he has more detailed shading.

|}

[[Category:Character Evolution]] [[Category:Storybook Characters|Bland,Mr]]

Talk:Zagnut Bars

Geshmalderborgen — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:13:31 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Inclusion */ ~~~~

{{tbd}}
==Inclusion==
I don't see why this article should be deleted. It's certainly appeared enough times for it to merit a page, and it seems to be an object of importance, especially in relation to [[Senor Cardgage]]. I say '''keep'''. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
:I second. The Zagnut Bar seems to pop up everywhere, and as such it deserves a page. '''Keep'''{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Zagnut Bars

Geshmalderborgen — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:13:09 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Inclusion */ Yes Keep the Zagnut.

User:Geshmalderborgen

Geshmalderborgen — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:10:38 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Evolution of Geshmaldersig */ Goatface

== The Secret Origin of Geshmalderborgen ==

'''Posted by Meir Kleinfelder'''
:That's when I found a genuine working geshmalderborgen in his kitchen. What use would a human have for such a gadget?

'''Additional Info'''
*A Geshmalderborgen is apparently some kind of Alien blender.
*Originally called "Geshmalderborgen" for lack of a better name.
*It was changed to "Quantum Liquid Flux Agitator" to mock the fact the anything could sound futuristic with the words "quantum" and flux" in it.
*Changed back to Geshmalderborgen, because it was such a creative name.

'''Links'''
*[http://www.onlytzaras.com/galleries/engagements/enquirer/ My Neighbor Married An Alien]
*[http://www.onlytzaras.com Only Tzaras (another site in dire need of a wiki)]

==Evolution of Geshmaldersig==

First there was [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]]
:This was dubbed boring.
Then there was [[User:Geshmalderborgen|גשמלדרברגן]]
:But alas the text did garble, when <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> was used.

ּNow there is the Geshmaldertemplate {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}}

==Goatface==
Let the heralds go forth and sing out their praises, for mighty Goatface is dead. All that is left is a redirect, and a talk page archive. And with good reason, for lo the Goatface was distracting and pointless. And lo, did not [[Strong Bad]]'s entry on [[Aliases Used in Prank Calls]] mention Goatface anyway. And was Goatface not an integral part of [[Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_12.2]].

But only one had the courage to give Goatface his due. First he cut Goatface down to size, and behold, t'was not good enough. So he returned with the spring winds, and smote Goatface a grievous blow. Now Goatface is no more, and there is much celebration.

Geshmalderborgen is truly the Goatface Killah

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2

Geshmalderborgen — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:06:14 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Easter Eggs */ That section no longer exists

{{mamnav|12|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2|Version 11.2|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2|Version 13.2}}

[[Image:thnikkafied-machine.png|thumb|"Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied!"]]

The Thnikkaman starts a band, Strong Bad's prank call ends in song, and Homestar threatens himself again.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/The [[Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, April 26, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:17

'''Page Title:''' Marzipan's Answering Machine

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

==Transcript==
=== Marzipan's Greeting ===
'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, yeah. Leave a message.

=== Message 5 ===
'''SINGERS:''' ''{singing}'' You Got a Call from the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.} ''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, Marzipan. It's the Thnikkaman! Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied! I was just calling up to see if you wanted to join my Thnikkaband. I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums. Now all I need is some Thnikkagirls to dance around in some go-go boots. All you gotta do is shimmy-shake a little bit to the left, and, if time permits, shimmy-shake a little bit to the right. Oh, and in regards to your question, "can you have some?", yeah, shut up, kid!

'''SINGERS:''' ''{singing}'' Here hang-ups the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Errrrrrrrooom... click!

=== Message 4 ===

'''STRONG BAD:''' Marzipan, look: this is Goatface. I have a goat for a face. Like, not that I have a goat's head for a face, or that my head is a goat's head — like, my face is an ''entire goat''. So, anyways, I was calling you ups 'cause I wanted to join your Goatface Club! Since you've got quite a goat face yourself, I figured you'd be the go-to guy, or gal. It's hard to tell with that goat face of yours. Anyways, my number is ''{imitates a goat}'' eeeeeh-uhhh! So gimme a call back! We can compare goat faces, though I can't imagine... that yours... your- is- pret-... you're ugly. Marzipan, this is Strong Bad, and you're ugly.

=== Message 3 ===

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Marzipan, this is not Marzipan, just calling to leave you a mean prank call so that you don't get your feelings hurt when other people prank call you. Um, here's the prank: we all know that hair color is not your true color.

=== Message 2 ===

''{Every time Strong Bad repeats a phrase, he imitates a different voice in an attempt to make it sound like a crowd.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! This is all your friends! All your friends! All your friends! All of your friends! Calling you! Calling you! We're calling! We're all calling you! Calling you! To tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! And you owe us some money! You owe us some money! Yeah, you owe me ten bucks! Yeah, you owe me twelve dollars! You owe me twelve dollars! You owe us some money! ''{falsetto}'' And you said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{falsetto}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{falsetto}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{hand claps begin in time to Strong Bad's repetition}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{a drum beat with a bass pattern begins}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{cymbal crash}''

=== Message 1 ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{angry}'' Oh, hello, Marzipan! You've got the H-star, you got the H-star-R, and boy, have I got a bee in my bonnet! So, what, I gotta hear from Strong Bad now that you have an "in" at the Goatface Club? Were you even going to mention it to old Boyfriend Dan? That's — that's me. Boyfriend Dan. You know good and well that I've dreamt of being in a Goatface Club ever since I was a moderately-sized baby. And you said you'd bake us a cake! And who's this Boyfriend Dan I keep hearing about?! Well, you tell him to watch his back, 'cause the old Goatface Killa is on the loose! Now, that's me. Now I'm the Goatface Killa.

== Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Goatface3.PNG|thumb|a Goatface]]
*Click on the tape holder during Strong Bad's ranting to see what a "Goatface" really isn't.
**First it's a human body with a goat face, drawn on a piece of lined paper.
**Click on the paper to cross it out with the message: "no!"
**Click it again to see another example of what a goatface isn't: a person with goat's head, neck and front legs sticking out of his head.
**Click on it to cross it out with the message: "nope!"
**Click a fifth time to see a [[Obviously Phony Aliases|true goatface]]: a person with an entire [[Goats|goat]] for a face, with the neck connected to the middle of the goat's body.
**Click the goatface again to see its majesty, with the message: "genius!"
*Click the tape holder at the end of Homestar's message to see a milk carton with the following info on it:
<pre>BOYFRIEND DAN
BEWARE!!
{a silhouette of Homestar with goat horns and a goatee}
"GOATFACE KILLA"
IS ON THE LOOSE!

LAST SEEN AS A
MODERATELY
SIZED BABY</pre>

== Fun Facts ==

===Remarks===
*When this answering machine was released, it had the old HTML links at the bottom of the page instead of the new Flash file. This has since been corrected.
*This is the first and so-far only time Strong Bad used an [[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|alias]] and admitted at the end it was him.

===Inside References===
*Homestar's message contains yet another reference to [[Dan]].
*The Thnikkaman was first introduced in the Strong Bad E-mail [[monument]].
*The milk carton with the silhouette ad was last seen in [[kind of cool]], when Strong Bad was looking for Senor Cardgage.
*When Homestar says, "The H star R", he is referring to a common abbreviation for Homestar Runner; H*R.
*The Thnikkaman speaking of shaking to the left and right might be a reference to what Coach Z said in [[2 emails]].

===Real-World References===

*Homestar's mention of a "Goatface Killa" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Ghostface Killah|Ghostface Killah]], a member of Coach Z's favorite rap group, the [[Wikipedia:Wu-Tang Clan|Wu-Tang Clan]].
*The "you'd bake us a cake" line sounds very similar to the chorus from [[Wikipedia:System of a Down|System of a Down's]] 'Prison Song.'
*The Thnikkaman's "I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums" line is very similar to the manner in which Dick Halloran (the chef from ''[[Wikipedia:The Shining (film)|The Shining]]'', played by Scatman Crothers) dictates the contents of the freezer and pantry.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:answer12.html|watch "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[HR:answer12.swf|view the Flash file for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[Forum:2965|forum thread re: "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]

{{Marzipan's Answering Machine}}

{{subtitlesLinks|answer12}}

[[Category:Marzipan's Answering Machine| 12]]

French Fries

Geshmalderborgen — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:23:17 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: I doubt it. The Drive-Through had no building.

[[Image:Fry-Eating Contest.PNG|thumb|"Just one more!"]]
'''French fries''' appear frequently in the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner universe]]. The ones usually seen at [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]] are of the crinkle variety and are served in a red and white checkerboard dishes with Quite Fancy 'Chup.

==Appearances==
*Email [[your friends]] — [[Strong Bad]] gives [[Coach Z]] hot fries.
*Email [[funny]] — [[Bubs]], Strong Bad, and [[The Cheat]] eat fries using computer ketchup.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] — Coach Z mentions [[Wikipedia:Curly fries|Curly fries]].
*Email [[montage]]- The [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]] and Strong Bad share some fries.
*[[Summer Short Shorts]] — The Cheat tries to see how many french fries he can stuff in his mouth.
*Email [[road trip]] — Strong Bad and The Cheat consider eating some petri-fries.

==See Also==
*[[Quite Fancy 'Chup]]
*[[Potate]]

[[Category:Generic food and drinks]]

Main Page 13

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:49:17 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: revert. Huh?

{{mainnav|13|12|14}}
[[Image:Main13.PNG|220px|thumb|The Atari 2600.]]

An [[Atari 2600]] main page.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Atari Homestar]], [[Atari Strong Bad]], [[Retro Gaming Character Variations#Atari Marzipan|Atari Marzipan]], [[Atari Dragon]]

'''Places:''' Atari [[The Field]]

'''Icon:''' Atari joystick

'''Page title:''' "Homestar Runner Game Pac"

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — The sky changes color. First it is blue, then orange, purple, red, lavender, and finally blue again.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — An airplane flies by and drops a bomb.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Strong Bad jumps on screen. He disappears pixel-by-pixel when you remove the cursor from the button.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — Background is turned into a moving road from a racing game.
*'''[[Store]]''' — Marzipan goes across the screen chasing a butterfly with a net.
*'''[[Email]]''' — Strong Bad, holding the Enchanted Chalice from Adventure, runs away from Yorgle the Atari Dragon while yelling, "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!"

==Fun Facts==
===Remarks===
*The scrolling road is like a daytime version of [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] from [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].

===Goofs===
[[Image:WingHead13.PNG|thumb|Lowflying plane?]]
*The wing of the airplane will pass over any action happening in The Field. The only thing it does not pass is Homestar Runner's head.
*After Strong Bad runs across the screen when the cursor rolls over "Email", the Flash file restarts itself.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's line is a reference to Homestar Runner's line from the first deleted scenes on [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]].
*When you scroll over "Downloads", Homestar makes the same sound that the [[Compy 386]] does when you kill the [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] in the Strong Bad Email [[ghosts]].

===Real-World References===
*The sound effects for the "Games" button is taken from the Atari 2600 game, [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=96 Combat]. The sound effect that is made when you mouse-over "E-mail" is from the sounds that tanks and planes (in Combat) would make when they are shot. The sound effect when you mouse over the "Characters" button is from the Atari 2600 game, [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=360 Pitfall!] when Pitfall Harry would collect a gold bar, diamond ring, etc. The effect when Strong Bad disappears is from [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=342 Pac Man] for the Atari 2600.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:main13.html|go to Main Page 13]]
*[[HR:main13.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 13]]

{{Main Page}}

{{subtitlesLinks|main13}}

[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Main Pages]]

from work

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:45:18 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: revert "Taser uses the term "non-lethal" as defined by the US Department of Defence - which does not mean the weapon cannot cause death, but that it is not intended to be fatal." wiki

{{sbenav|169}}
[[Image:from work.png|thumb|"Hey! How come your imagination's working?"]]

Strong Bad answers an email from work.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}

'''Places:''' [[The Office]]

{{Comp|Corpy NT6}}

'''Date:''' April 9, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:34

'''Page Title:''' Corpy NT6!

==Transcript==
''{Close-up of the lower half of Strong Bad's face. He holds his hand over his mouth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Shhh! Shut up, you guys! I'm checkin' email from work today, and I can't let The Man know what I'm up to!

''{Cut to Strong Bad typing on a computer with a grey monitor that reads "Corpy NT6"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, tiptoe your fingers 'cross the keyboard for the quietest email you can check.

''{A buzzer is heard. An error message with a picture of a hand blocking a basketball appears with the text "BLOCKED! Back to work, drone!" The box shakes when the buzzer plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, man. They got everything blocked now. Even those awesome pop-up insurance ads with the cool mini-games in 'em. I tasered that gnome like ten times! ''{stops typing}'' Good thing The Cheat hooked me up with this Cheatware!

''{Strong Bad holds up a yellow 3.5" diskette with black spots; the label reads "Cheatware ver. 2.1" and has an ASCII-like[[#Remarks|*]] drawing of The Cheat. He puts it in the computer. The computer makes a whirring sound and the text "Grandmaw Edgar's Corporate Firewall Get-Arounder" appears on the screen with a picture of an old woman and a brick wall. Music plays. The screen changes to an animation of the old woman pole vaulting over the wall into an envelope. The words "Running..." appears at the top and changes to "Done and done." as the animation finishes. A progress bar at the bottom progresses from yellow to red.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, nice work, pixel-Granny! Undermine those corporate oppressors on witcha bad self! ''{brings up email}''

<blockquote class="corpy email" style="border:#ddd;border-bottom:#ccc;">
Dear Strong Bad, 
If you could have any job in the whole 
world, regardless of how much it pays, what 
would you have? 
From The Nitwon
<div style="border:none;background:#08089c"></div>
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "The Nitwon" as "The Nittle One"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' You ask like I haven't told you guys a million times... ''{drumroll sounds; Strong Bad clears screen}'' I'd be a 2nd 2nd Assistant Space Whale Scrubber! ''{"tada" sound effect; the words "Space Whale Scrubber" flash in many colors}'' Cause  those are the ones that get to wear that glittery pantsuit and use a lazormop to scrub all the nudules and crudules off the whale's dorsal ridge! ''{Crickets chirp. Strong Bad looks around.}'' Umm, shouldn't we be seeing some of this by now?

'''BUBS:''' ''{offscreen, imitating buzzer noise}'' Baghh!

''{Cut to view of Bubs standing behind Strong Bad, who is facing him}''

'''BUBS:''' Sorry, Strong Bad! The suits had me install a firewall on your imagination! All that free thinking was wasting the company's cost money!

''{Close up of Strong Bad's face}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's it! I am totally never gonna quit this job but start complaining about it a little bit more! ''{he thumps the desk with his fist four times}''

''{Back to view of Strong Bad and Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, I'd better get back to taserin' that gnome! Err, I mean, ''{Bubs starts walking offscreen}'' upgrading the... taser in that gnome... server!

''{Return to view of Strong Bad in front of the Corpy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I guess I could try and describe it using work approved methods. Let's see: ''{clears screen, brings up a blank graph. Continues typing, the words appear in red above the graph}'' Why 2nd 2nd Assistant Space-Whale Scrubber is My Dream Job. ''{an image of a space-whale appears in the background}'' Twenty percent pantsuit, ''{a green bar comes up from the bottom of the graph with "20%" written on it and "pantsuit" written under it}'' seventeen percent space-whale proximity... ''{a shorter purple bar comes up with "17%" written on it and "space-whale proximity" written under it}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey, cube neighbor!

''{Cut to Strong Sad looking at Strong Bad over the side of his cubicle}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' My work staysh is asking me if I want to log off or log out. Which one do I choose?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pffft! Stupid temp. You don't know the difference between logging off and logging out?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, no. Back when I was in charge of the ''{starts drumming his fingers}'' schwa sound at dictionary.com they used to...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Look, just hold down escape, control, tab, alt, both shifts, num lock and the little squiggly until your screen turns blue. Then, stare at it until your shift ends.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, thanks!

''{Strong Sad goes back down into his own cubicle. Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the Corpy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Okay. Back to the, back to the sbemail. Let's talk about dorsal ridges!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You wanna know what—

''{Cut to Homestar Runner behind Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —''my'' dream job would be?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. I mean, no. I mean, no.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'd be the guy—

''{Cut to a shot of blue sky with clouds}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —that flies around ''{Homestar Runner falls onto and starts riding a large flying goldfish}'' on that big plastic goldfish, ''{an oversized toothbrush appears next to Homestar, who uses it to paint clounds in the sky}'' painting the clouds with an oversized novelty toothbrush!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! How come your imagination's working?

''{Homestar stops painting clouds. Cut back to Homestar Runner and Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I got admin privileges! It helps when you're best friends with the Big Cheese!

''{Zoom out; An annoyed Pom Pom is behind Homestar with sunglasses above his eyes and carrying a bicycle with the text "[...]IG CHEESE"}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Agh! ''{jumps, turns around}'' The Big Cheese!

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{bends over with a downtrodden look}'' Yes, sir. Sorry, sir. Right away, sir. Hallelujah, sir. ''{Pom Pom begins to bounce away, with Homestar shuffling behind him}'' I'll have that DNA evidence on your desk by five.

''{Back to Strong Bad in front of the Corpy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nevermind, Nitwit. Checking sbemails at the office is not worth the trouble. I dunno how all those bloggers do it. Oh well. I guess I'd better get back to woik.

''{Screen clears; a message appears saying "Would you like to:"; there are two buttons, one that says "Log off", one that says "Log out"}''.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbles, typing noises}'' 'Scape... tab... squiggly... ''{with each type, a word appears onscreen: "esc.ctrl.tab.alt.shift.shift.numlock.~.<"}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#455FD8; border-color:#E2E2E2; text-align:center">
{| cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid white; color:white; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto"
|-
| style="background:#FFFFFF;color:#455FD8" |  TEMP LOG OFF/OUT ERROR 
|-
| <div style="text-align:center; border:none; background:none">Oh you are SOOOO not gonna work here again!</div>
|}
</blockquote>

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about 7 seconds, Strong Bad continues:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, gonna be a long one. I haven't even taken my first sit-in-the-men's-room-and-play-''Tetris''-for-an-hour break yet.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Taser gnome.PNG|thumb|Low rates and percent signs]]
*Click on the comic strip on the wall of Strong Bad's cubicle when Strong Sad appears to see a [[Dullard]] comic.
*Click on "work" at the end of the email after Strong Bad's comment in order to play "[[Taser the Gnome Game|Taser the Gnome For Low Rates]]".

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Firewall|firewall]] is a computer system designed to protect one or more computers from unwanted connections, and can be configured to restrict the same computers from accessing certain external resources. However, it is occasionally used (incorrectly) to refer to a [[Wikipedia:Proxy server|proxy server]], often used at workplaces and schools to restrict access to non-work related websites, which appears to be the system used in Strong Bad's workplace.
*Cheatware is an example of a proxy or [[Wikipedia:anonymizer|anonymizer]], which can be used to bypass firewalls or restrictions placed by the administrators of the network.
*A [[Wikipedia:Temporary work|temp]] is a short-term (or temporary) worker.
*A [[Wikipedia:Blog|blog]], or "weblog", is a journal-like user generated website.
*A [[Wikipedia:Schwa|schwa]] is an unstressed, neutral vowel sound, represented by an ə (an upside down e).
*The squiggly (~) is known as the [[Wikipedia:Tilde|tilde]].
*The [http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/whales/glossary/indexd.shtml dorsal ridge] is a raised line or hump on the back of some whales (in place of a dorsal fin).
*A taser is an [[Wikipedia:Electroshock weapon|electroshock gun]] or stun gun, a non-lethal weapon used for subduing a person by administering an electric shock.
*Admin is short for Administrator.

===Remarks===
*The sound made by the computer when the [[Edgar#Grandmaw Edgar|Cheatware]] disk is put in is the noise made by many old 5.25" floppy drives. However, the Cheatware disk is a 3.5" floppy disk.
*The tune to the opening email song that this email has is similar to that of [[trading cards]].
*Several fluorescent lights can be seen in the Corpy's reflection. This can be seen most prominently in the "Loading..." screen.
*The ASCII-like image of The Cheat is not possible to make with ASCII. Parenthesis are used sideways, and the characters do not align correctly with a fixed width font.
*Although Strong Bad seems to be concerned with the volume level at the beginning of the email, he seems to disregard any semblance of noise control for the rest of the email, especially when he yells at Bubs.
*Although Homestar's dream job involves painting white clouds, in [[dreamail]] he says that he hates them.
*The image of the Dullard comic on Strong Bad's wall before it is clicked is the same image used in the email [[dullard]]. This can be seen in the fact that the comic resembles a rough sketch of the first Dullard comic, with characters handing each other a piece of paper and the dog-like character in the last panel.
**This same image was used in [[4 branches]].
*According to dictionary.com, there is no difference between "[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/log%20off log off]" and "log out".
*In the Gnome Tasering game there are 2 rows of state abreviations. One row has 24 states and the other has 26 states even though two rows of 25 states could have been used.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Tazer Gnome 100,000.PNG|thumb|Six digits.]]
*The Dullard comic is not visibly attached to the wall in any way, as the thumbtack does not actually go through the comic.
*The reflections of the lights above Strong Bad's cubicle overlap the reflection of his head, which should not be possible since his head would block any light coming from that direction.

=== Glitches ===
*The gnome-tasering game's score system is only meant to hold five digits, and hitting 100,000+ will result in the last digit getting cut off.
*You can make the ka-ching sound without the animations or the buzzing noise by hitting a certain part of the gnome's left arm with the middle of the taser, by keeping the mouse button held down when you click on the gnome, or by tasering him and quickly pulling the mouse off the game.

===Inside References===

*This is the fifth email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence]].
*Strong Sad previously said "staysh" in [[Missing Lappy]].
*This is another program of the [[Edgar]] family.
*Using a lazormop to scrub all the nudules and crudules off the space whale's dorsal ridge is another example of [[Lasers]].
*One of the items in Bubs's tool belt is a [[Permanent Marker|permanent marker]].
*Bubs spoke of The Man in [[Cool Things]].
*Homestar saying he'll have the DNA evidence on Pom Pom's desk by five is a reference to the first [[Dullard]] comic.
*"Done and done" was last seen in [[radio]].
*"Corpy" is a [[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of "corporate" and "[[Compy 386|Compy]]".
*The goldfish Homestar rides in his daydream resembles one of the sketches of the [[Drive-Thru Whale]].

===Real-World References===
*Products advertised in the Taser the Gnome easter egg are a [[Wikipedia:Xbox|Microsoft Xbox]], a [[Wikipedia:iPod (5G)|Fifth Generation iPod]], and a [[Wikipedia:PlayStation Portable|PlayStation Portable (PSP)]], all common "prizes" for playing the game ads which the Gnome Tasering game is parodying.
*''[[Wikipedia:Tetris|Tetris]]'' is a well-known and often imitated video game created by [[Wikipedia:Alexey Pajitnov|Alexey Pajitnov]], and has been ported to many video game consoles, digital organizers, and cell phones.
*The "Corpy NT6" could be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Windows Vista|Windows Vista]], which is [[Wikipedia:Windows NT#Releases|Windows NT version 6]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Man|The Man]] is a term from the '60s used to describe authority figures. It is often associated with a negative connotation, as '60s movements which used the term tended to resist the influence of individuals who could be considered "The Man."
*The way Strong Sad peeks over his cubicle wall and says "Hey, cube neighbor!" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Wilson (Home Improvement)|Wilson]] on the TV sitcom ''[[Wikipedia:Home Improvement|Home Improvement]]''.
*"Insurance games" is a reference to online advertisements from companies, like LowerMyBills.com and FreePay, that feature Flash-based games which lead to the company's website when played.
*The [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning#System Errors|screen turning blue]] is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Blue_Screen_of_Death|Blue Screen of Death]], a [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]] system error screen.
*Strong Bad's log off/log out key sequence is a parody of the key sequence used to unlock Windows NT work stations, [[Wikipedia:Control-Alt-Delete|Ctrl+Alt+Delete]], and of the [[Wikipedia:Novell|Novell]] 'Four Finger Salute' <Left Shift><Right Shift><Alt><Esc>.
*The "gnome server" that Bubs refers to is a Graphical User Interface add-on of the open-source [[Wikipedia:Linux|Linux]] operating system, also called [[Wikipedia:GNOME|Gnome]].
*[http://dictionary.reference.com Dictionary.com] is an online dictionary.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|169|{{{2|11151}}}}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

rough copy

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:10:22 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Revert, Vandalism.

{{sbenav|170}}
[[Image:Sbemail170 rough copy.PNG|thumb|"Let's sue him!"]]

Strong Bad attempts to sue Malinko for using him and The Cheat in a comic, Homestar makes a not-fortune in flavored water, and Strong Sad gets his revenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 16, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a singsong voice}'' Sweetheart, get dressed and brush your teeth! It's time for email!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: comics</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
I would like to Draw a few comics about you and the cheat. 
But 1st i'd need to know what type of promblems you and 
the cheat would be faced with. Once i get a rough copy i'd 
send it to you to see how you like it. I hope you interested. 
-Malinko-
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "promblems" and "I hope you interested" as written.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Malinko, I hope ''you'' interested in getting sued into the middle ages by The Cheat and me. Cause that's what would happen if you drew a few comics about us. ''{clears screen}'' Just like that time Homestar started selling Strong Bad flavored water. ''{pronounces "flavored water" queasily, types in wavy blue-green font}'' We shut that mess down on the quickfast.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in The Field with a stack of bottles labeled "SB2O"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got your Strong Bad water right here! S-B-two-oh. Bottled at the source. Pure as a mountain goat.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat approach; The Cheat is wearing a suit and tie and dragging a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's sue him!

''{The Cheat opens the briefcase, which is filled with colored water balloons. Strong Bad and The Cheat start pegging Homestar with the balloons.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray! The orders are violently flying in!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Man, I've got the best lawyer soft tacos can buy. And his aim with those waterbombs is crazy good! He can hit Strong Sad from like three football fields away.

''{Cut to Strong Sad taking notes on a notepad at the athletic field, which has the Jolly Dumple painted in an end zone and a sign next to the sideline reading "FIELD 3".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{taking notes}'' Note to self: ''{flips page}'' get—big—ger— ''{flips page}'' note—boo— ''{flips page}'' —k.

''{Water balloons come flying from behind the trees in the distance, hitting Strong Sad and knocking him on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mercy me!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I think we were suing him for custody of his not-so-thin mints that day.

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat standing next to Strong Bad, holding up a manila envelope.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahoy! An unmarked manila envelope. Must be that weaselly Malinko's comic.

''{The Cheat snaps the envelope open. Strong Bad pulls a white piece of paper out of the envelope and looks at it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh my!

''{Close-up of the paper, which has two scribbles labeled "Strong Bad" and "the Cheat", a few stains, and the signature "-m"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rough copy is right! ''{turns the paper from side to side}'' Uh, you don't need my help finding promblems for these guys, Malinko.

''{Close-up of The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' These don't look anything like us! Man, that kid was going to have so few pants on after we got done suing them off him. And now he's gonna strut around all on-panted waving his pant-covered legs in our faces.''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws paper up in the air}'' You're a genius, The Cheat! Now ''that's'' what I pay you for. Open up. ''{holds up a taco and The Cheat opens his mouth wide}'' Up. Ah! Ah! Ah! ''{throws the taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}'' There you go.

''{The Cheat opens his mouth again and claps his paws together, imitating a seal.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay. One more. ''{throws another taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}''

''{Cut to silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire, walking in front of a cloudy sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Utz. Eetz. Ahtz. Atch.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in The Field, still wearing barbed wire.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we look just like Malinko's cat-scratchings. Our case is air-tight. Why stop at pants? We could probably sue that black zip-up hoodie off him now too!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{turns around and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, this stuff ''does'' make me feel pretty tough. Ooh, in fact... we should star in own action-packed credit sequence called, "Rough Copy!".

''{A "ROUGH COPY!" title screen appears with Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire and holding revolvers. Big band music plays. Cut to Strong Bad, who runs across a row of 2-D silhouetted buildings. The screen reads, "with STRONG BAD" in the corner. Cut to the Cheat, who fires his revolver. The screen reads, "and THE CHEAT" in the corner.}''

''{Two strips of video appear on the screen, one with Strong Bad walking down a sidewalk, and one with the Cheat tossing a taco in his mouth. Cut to a horizontally split screen with Strong Bad pointing his revolver in each one. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat riding down a highway in the [[Gremlin]]. Strong Bad is hanging out the passenger-side window with his revolver drawn, and The Cheat is standing on the roof of the car.}''

''{Cut to white silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat holding their guns, with the text "ROUGH COPY!" above them and "Promblem-Packed Action!" above them. The music ends.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad speaking to Strong Bad and The Cheat at The Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are still wearing barbed wire, and Strong Sad is wearing reading glasses and carrying a very large "Bigger Noootebook"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, gentlemen. I'm here representing my client, Malinko. ''{zoom in on Strong Sad}'' It would seem you are infringing on his ''highly'' intellectual property. ''{points upward on "highly"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be joking! There's nothing intellectual abou—

''{Strong Sad begins pegging Strong Bad with snowballs, and Strong Bad yells.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did you get snowballs this time of year?! ''{Strong Sad continues hitting him with snowballs}'' How did you fit them in that notebook?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{holds a snowball aloft}'' I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight! ''{throws snowball at Strong Bad, who yells}''

''{The screen dims, and Homestar Runner pops in front, holding a bottle of "Malinko Drinko".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinko some Malinko! Crystal clear like domestic beer.

''{Cut back to the Lappy. Strong Bad shakes snow off his head and grumbles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Can't you see Malinko? All this hot legal action is tearing our non-existent friendship apart! Looks like we'll just have to settle out of court.

''{Strong Bad turns away from the Lappy and starts eating a candy bar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm. That's some good settlement. ''{chews}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*When Strong Bad turns away from the computer to respond to The Cheat, click the text on the screen to see a box of Not So Thin Mints.
*At the end of the email, click the candy bar to see Senor Cardgage talk to Strong Bad.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{leaning in from the right}'' Hey, Grendolyn! Don't bogart that settlement now!
*At the end of the email, click the wall plug to see a clip of Homestar Runner sitting on the couch.
:''{Homestar is sitting on Marzipan's couch looking sad. Windy noises.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{after quite some time, sighs}'' DNA evidence.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*[[SB2O|SB2O]] is a play on H2O, the formula for water.
*Domestic beer is beer made in one's own country. This is most likely a disparaging comment referring to hugely mass-produced American beers which have a reputation for being [http://nymag.com/restaurants/features/22308/ watery and bland].
*The Cheat's clapping his hands together indicating he wants another taco is the manner in which trained seals clap their flippers together to indicate to their trainer that they want more food.
*To "bogart" means "to keep more than one's fair share".


===Trivia===
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#LHX attack chopper|LHX attack chopper]]".
*This is the first time The Cheat's teeth were visible when he fully opened his mouth. The only other 'toon where he fully opened it was [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad and The Cheat seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the soft tacos out of nowhere]].
*This is the first time Strong Sad has been [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship|physically violent]] toward Strong Bad.
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat walk across the field, only the barbed wire they are carrying and the parts of them sticking out from above and beneath it are silhouetted against the sky, whereas the rest of their bodies are clearly visible in all the other shots with them holding the wire.

===Goofs===
*During the second Lappy scene (just after Strong Bad and The Cheat waterbomb Homestar), the ripple effect from clicking on the Lappy's screen can be seen outside the screen area.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's glove moves independently of his arm. Right at the end, the arm snaps into position.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's left cheek doesn't move with his head.
*At the end, the cheek changes sizes before snapping back into place.

===Inside References===
*This is the sixth Strong Bad Email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence|DNA evidence]]. Unlike the previous occurrences, the gag appears in an Easter egg rather than the main cartoon. It also appears that Homestar is aware of the running gag, as he acts like he "had" to say it, judging by his sigh and lack of enthusiasm.
*This email makes reference to [[Pants|pants]], [[Goats|goats]], [[Guns|guns]], and [[Alcohol|alcohol]].
*[[The Jolly Dumple]] can be seen on the football field.
*The scene of Strong Bad and The Cheat silhouetted against the sky is similar in appearance to the scene of Strong Bad marching down to Bubs' in [[isp]].
*Strong Bad's reaction to Homestar's "flavored water" is similar to his reaction to Homestar's bread sing alongs in [[origins]]. In each case, he types "flavored water" and "bread sing alongs" in moving green text. 
*[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogart&defid=988065"Bogart"] was previously used as a verb in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*The song at the beginning is similar to [[Homestar Quiz]], specificially when you get 7 answers correct.
*The Cheat's attorney outfit is from [[sb_email 22]].
*Strong Bad is eating a [[Wikipedia:ZAGNUT|Zagnut]] bar, seen previously in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], [[kind of cool]], and [[flashback]]. Senor Cardgage is known to carry a bag full of them.

===Real-World References===
*"Not-so-thin mints" are a reference to Thin Mints, a type of [[Wikipedia:Girl Scout cookie|Girl Scout cookie]].
**The Strong Sad logo on the box resembles the [[Wikipedia:Trefoil|trefoil]] logo of the [[wikipedia:Girl Scouts of the USA|Girl Scouts]].


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== [[User:Trey56#NES Endings Trivia Challenge|NES Endings Trivia Challenge]]==
===12 February 2007===
[[Image:The cheat rampage videogame.PNG|thumb|"MY PANTIES!"]]
The game is [[Wikipedia:Rampage (arcade game)|Rampage]], which was ported to the NES. [[rampage]] makes reference to the game when [[:Image:The cheat rampage videogame.PNG|The Cheat]] and [[:Image:Strong mad rampage videogame.PNG|Strong Mad]] rampage about in the [[rampage#Easter Eggs|Easter egg]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

:Exactly! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

===21 February 2007===
[[Wikipedia:River City Ransom|River City Ransom]] is the game, and the email is [[theme party]] because the pink shirted enemies are frat guys. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 19:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:Nice work — that's exactly what I was thinking of :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

===6 March 2007===
The game is [[Wikipedia:Contra (series)|Contra]]. Took place in the [[Wikipedia:Amazon Basin|Amazon Basin]]. "amazon" is part of the URL for [[Bookazon.com]] which features [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yep — as opposed to other versions of the game, which apparently took place off the coast of [[User:Loafing|New Zealand]]. Well done! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
This may be unrelated, but Strong Bad [[Couch Mumbling|mumbled]] Super Contra in his sleep once. I think that may be a sequel or something. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 14:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

:Nope, not unrelated at all; that's [[Wikipedia:Super Contra|the first sequel]] to Contra, and I considered using that as the clue for this one... Good catch! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

===14 March 2007===
The game is [[Wikipedia:RoboCop (video game)|RoboCop]]. [[Homestarloween Party]] introduced [[Visor Robot]], who shares [[Wikipedia:RoboCop|RoboCop's]] [[Wikipedia:RoboCop#Visor|visor]] and the "Robo" portion of the name. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:That's correct — also, according to Strong Sad, the Visor Robot has a human brain, just as Robocop has some human organs...but that's stretching the connection :P Good work! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Ahhh! So ''that'' was the connection! I knew it was RoboCop by looking at the [[:Image:NES Ending.jpg|Bigger image]] (it's the last scene of the movie) but it didn't occurr to me that it was the visor robot that was modeled after it :(. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the question was admittedly kind of a stretch on this one — way to recognize the game, though! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Thank you! Next time I'll just have to beat Tom somehow. If that's at all possible ;). Dude, you're quick replying. Do you sleep? Both last night and this morning (US Eastern Time Zone) you replied quickly to my notes! I know you're a native german speaker (I think Dorian mentioned that in some other talk page): do you live in Europe? Anyway, next time, I'll be ready ;). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Sleep? What's that? Naw, I live in Chicago, and I only speak English very well — you might be thinking of [[User:Loafing|Loafing]], who's a native German speaker. As for being on at weird hours, that comes from the combination of being a grad student and a parent of a young child ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Ah! Loafing! Yes, yes I did confuse you guys. Did I tell you that I am bad with names? Ah! Yes, I know the Grad Student part very well. I can understand the parent part. I know this is late but, congratulations! (On the parent thing). :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::: Thanks! :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

===20 March 2007===
The game is [[Wikipedia:Maniac Mansion|Maniac Mansion]]. The ending you have there is seen if you choose to shoot the meteor into space. The game is explicitly referenced in frame 792 of [[lackey]] in the [[Floppy Disk Container#maniac_mansion|Floppy Disk Container]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wow, I can't stump you! Looks like I'll have to look for some more obscure games. Yep, that's exactly right — as a side note, I love it when TBC put little Easter eggs in their toons that you can only find by decompiling the Flash file (that floppy disk is mostly obscured by the black border). Good work! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::''(had an edit conflict and I just *now* noticed it.)'' How, just ''HOW'' do you do it!? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'''''[[looking old|Whaaa-donk. Click click click click click click click. This is not a drill.]]''''' --Get what I mean? Why don't you try to explain this to the people here? [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's funny you brought that up — I noticed that too. It is '''clearly''' not the noise found in the NES version. Do you happen to know if it's the noise used in the PC version, or is the fact completely wrong? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, this and Wikipedia are subject to hoaxes... I wonder though. I don't have such a thing so I don't know. Man, if only a <nowiki>{{verification needed}}</nowiki> tag existed here. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes — anyway, thanks for reminding me about that :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

===27 March 2007===

So, since I have nothing to lose, I might as well observe that the statue that appears there seems to be a moai, so I'm wondering if the game might be Moai Kun. Mind you, I never played it and the screenshots I'm seeing don't look very similar to what you've got, so probably not. But heck, might as well try. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're on the right track; but that's not the right game... good guess! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Thought not, but hey, at least I could demonstrate my knowledge of the word "moai". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I would have said "Easter Island head" :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The game is [[Wikipedia:Arkanoid|Arkanoid]]. The boss Doh behaves very much like [[Vector Strong Bad]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yep, you're right! Can't fool you. In retrospect, I didn't know that there was an article on [[Wikipedia:Moai in popular culture|Moai in popular culture]], although you perhaps didn't use that... Good job!{{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::And in speaking Bubble Bobble series terms, and back into the infamous [[#23 January 2007|Bubble Bobble 2 ambiguation]]: Yes, [[Wikipedia:Rainbow Islands|Rainbow Islands]] has that boss and an island that makes a reference to Arkanoid (probably with deadly balls that once again kill the player instantly on contact, as it is with such games) too. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::And another game that features [[Wikipedia:Moai|moais]]: [[Wikipedia:Parodius Da! －Shinwa kara Owarai e－|Parodius Da]] (aka the "Nonsense fantasy", the first game released on the SNES). --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

:::I didn't know about those ones — I'll have to play them soon! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

===3 April 2007===
[[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros. 3|Super Mario Bros. 3]] is the game, I believe. The toon is [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], in which [[The King of Town]] says "Sorry, king, but our princess is an another castle!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
:Exactly — nice work! (and fast too) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

::Not exactly,
<blockquote>The game is [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros. 3|Super Mario Bros. 3]]. The quote is "But our Princess is in another castle" which is quoted as "Sorry, King, but our princess is in another castle..." by [[The King of Town]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].</blockquote>
::See [http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/nes/a/marioIII-4.gif marioIII-4.gif] :P -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes — you're right. Close enough, though :P Also, I should note that both ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' and the KOT are referencing the original message at the end of the first seven worlds of ''[[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros.|Super Mario Bros.]]'' {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

::::Of course. Good work Heimstern! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, that last bit was more for completeness than 'cause I thought people didn't know it. Thanks for playing, guys :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

And you know what's '''''more''''' for completeness? And that people don't even know?!

{{spoiler}}

Well, I remember reading somewhere that what Princess Toadstool/Peach said at the end was different in the Japanese NES version (and even in the [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Advance 4|GBA remake]], so I remember playing once). I do not wanna spaz out on every single unnecessary change, so I'll quote, from [http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/smb3_j-e.shtml this site]:

<blockquote>The Japanese SMB3 features a more serious Princess Toadstool. In the Japanese version, Princess Toadstool originally said, "Thank you! Finally, peace returns to the Mushroom World. The end!"</blockquote>

Picture: [http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/images/j-e/smb3_peach.gif "Hahaha! Oh wait..."]

As a side note:
<blockquote>...it is interesting to note that neither the Japanese nor English versions of SMB3 in Super Mario All-Stars are based on their respective NES versions. Instead, both games contain an amalgamation of the Japanese and English versions, with the level changes (such as the world 1-1 Fortress) remaining from English version, along with the graphic "gimmicks" (such as the suit flying off effect) from the Japanese version.</blockquote>

And if I must state again ([[crying|"Oh no! Don't do it!!!"]]) '''''Oh drop that.''' Anyway, if I must state it again,'' I said that the non-joke ending was also repeated for the [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Advance 4|GBA remake]]. Princess Toadstool/Peach says [http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/gba/d/sma4-4.png "Thank you! Peace has at last returned to our Mushroom Kingdom!"] And with that, I re-checked and it was like that.

Well, I'll have to ask you to go back to [http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/smb3_j-e.shtml here] and [http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/gba/d/sma4.htm here]. The original world names from the NES Japanese edit were mostly kept for the GBA remake. "Castle of Koopa" was kept ''but of course they changed it to'' "Bowser's Castle", in my opinion because they had to change that to fit today's standards... or something.

And if you ever play the GBA remake, you'll see they decided to add a little motion to the static pictures of the original, so that all the characters fit into the place when the freeze-frame sets in for each of them. (Get what I'm saying?)

:'''Spoilers end here.'''

And so ends another ending plot expansion since the last time I stressed over Bubble Bobble and its own NES differences. Not that I'm stressing now. Really. And that's it. Hopefully I won't have to overload ending plot discrepancies again. Alright now. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 19:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

:Wow — interesting! I didn't know any of that! I think I like the English NES ending the best, though. That sneaky Princess! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

===12 April 2007===
The game is [[Wikipedia:Metroid|Metroid]]. [[TBC]] [[japanese cartoon#Easter Eggs|finished it]] in under three hours but in more than one hour. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yup, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Quite good, quite good]]. And you got it in only 5 minutes! :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::While tempting, no pictures of you in a bikini are necessary. Thanks though. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh, the picture of me in a bikini (=S) is reserved for 0-1 second replies. The 1 second—10 minute completions are rewarded with [[:Image:Da Huuuuuudge closeup.png|this tantalizing treat]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Boom tick tick tick. Look, it is '''''impossible''''' for something to be submitted in only one second nowadays, with the inexplicable slowdowns and the time it takes for the Save changes button to work!!! Wait. I'm gonna put something else up. Let me verify it first. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

And who's to say how many seconds passed when you refresh a page and your thing is there?! It would already have been 29 seconds [[Everybody to the Limit|over the limit! Because everybody's at the limit]]. Now if you'll excuse me... Don't force anyone to try to reply to one second because it is downright impossible in a Wiki of this stature! --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, let me tell you that if you put in [[invisibility#Easter Eggs|someone named Justin whose last name is Bailey]]... I don't want to tell you any more because you'd have figured it out, along with the other way you can get into [[Strong Bad's Message Bored|the Board. Uh, bored.]] Ugh, [[Wikipedia:Detroit Red Wings|Detroit]] leads 2-0 over [[Wikipedia:Calgary Flames|us]]... --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, impossibility is exactly the feature of the 1 second limit that attracted me to it! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

==[[User:Bigscarymike]]==
I just want to bring to your attention that this user has a link to porn on his userpage. Additionally, he swears on one of his userboxes and makes a comment on there that makes me want to throw up. Thanks, --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 23:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for the note — I'll get back to you in a minute. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, Dot com left him a message — if Mike's response to your complaint isn't satisfactory to you, feel free to calmly discuss it with him on his talk page. Talk atcha later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hey ==

updated my user page! [[Image:Strong_Sad.jpg|19px]] [[User:Lazylaces|Lazylaces]] [[User_Talk:Lazylaces|Talk]] 15:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:Looks good! — and thanks for adding me to your page :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
== STUFF vote correction ==
You have brought to my attention that a person can only accept one revision of the same fact. I appreciate it, and I have made the corrections, which you have adknowledged, however, could you please point out specifically where it states this in the policy you pointed out? Thank you. [[User:The 3000th flare|Flare]] 23:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

:Sure — it's the second-to-last sentence in the "Notes about voting" section on [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. "Revisions to facts are considered separate. You can decline the original wording but accept the revision. (You cannot accept more than one revision. Only your bottommost vote to accept will count.)" Hope this helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you for pointing this out. And I must say, you've been very helpful and polite to me, despite the obvious fact that I'm new here. I very much appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:The 3000th flare|Flare]] 19:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

:::No problem — everybody's new once — we're glad to have you here! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== I'm really sorry for... ==

Hey! I wanted to apologize for editing your page and saying bad things. I was just angry and I now relize that was wrong. Is there anything I can do to make it up? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:Apology accepted — no hard feelings :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Page Creations ==

Do you have any idea what page to create, cuz I can't think of any. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:None come to mind at the moment — however, there'll likely be an update within the next 24 hours, and so there should then be plenty of work to do! Other than that, it's always good to work on [[HRWiki:Article cleanup|refining our currently existing articles]]. Hope this helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:49, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== signature ==

Is there any possible way to get an animation beside my name or a signature?[[User:Haddiman|Haddiman]]
:There is — the trick is to have one that's subtle enough that people don't find it distracting (see [[HRWiki:Signature]]). But, if you find such an image, you can upload it and put it in your signature using the instructions at [[Help:Signature]]. Let me know if you have any questions! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Userpage ==

I updated my page {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 16:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
:Looks good — I like the new font! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Need I say this truthful comment? ==

Please see my [[User:Addict 2006|user page]] immediately. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 14:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:[[Let us give TANKS!|Understandable!!]] Well, you should be pleased at least that this year's prank is a lot tamer than [[HRWiki:A History#Back to WikkiTikkiTavi for April Fool.27s Day|last year's]], which had a lot of people fooled until April 2 hit. I thought this year's was clever, personally, and it took me by surprise :) Laters! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== "Truthful comment", day 2 ==

Okay, [[User:Addict 2006#April 2, 2007|now can you see this]]? And looks like you oughta archive your talk page. But do something about the NES Trivia Challenges. Oh wait. Yes, SB has just had his [[your funeral|funeral dirge]] contested. See my user page for more info. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 14:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
:Archive my page? [[User talk:Tom|No way. A long talk page is the coolest.]] =3 I agree with you, though, the other song they chose for Strong Bad's funeral seemed really out of place. Boo! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I've [[User talk:Trey56/Archive 1|given up my coolness]]. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Yay ;-) ==

Happy Tuesday! {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 11:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
:Whee! I'll say! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

== NES Question ==

Is it [[Senor Mortgage]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Nope — the game is ''[[Wikipedia:Super Mario. Bros. 3|Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', and the toon is [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] ([[#3 April 2007|see here]]). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Hey there! ==
I was wondering how do you delete and undelete a page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Hey, Sam. If you see a page that should be deleted, add the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:tobedeleted|tbd]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template to the top of the page. In an unusual case where the page requires speedy deletion (e.g., vandalism, etc.), you can use the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:delete|delete]]|''insert reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki> tag. In the first case, if consensus to delete is achieved on the talk page, a [[HRWiki:Sysops|sysop]] will delete the page, and in the second case, the same thing will happen but more quickly. You can read more about this at [[HRWiki:Deletion Policy]]. Hope this helps! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks!!! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::Also, I mean literly, how do you really delete a page like you deleted Visitation Room? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::Aha. That's a [[HRWiki:Sysops#Abilities of a sysop|restricted feature]], but not having access to this doesn't prevent you from being part of the decision-making process which enables its use. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Dear Trey56 ==

I have noticed lately that you have been really a good friend to me lately. In that way, I have one thing to say. '''WELCOME TO THE COOL PEEPS LIST!!!''' I say, well done. It takes a lot of work to be on that list! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Thanks! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Welcome Notice ==

Hey thank you for the welcome notice!--[[User:FG90|FG90]] 23:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

:You're welcome — have fun! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

==Cool Homestar==

do you like my cool homestar. {{unsigned|Blkstar13|01:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)}}

:[[Caleb Rentpayer]]? Yes sir. Yes, I do. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

==A Similar Nintendo Challenge==
Hey Trey. I have been thinking for a while to start my own Nintendo-esque trivia challenge. It is not endings like yours, just hard questions from Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and Metroid games, with pictures and captions. This is kinda your idea and I am asking for your permission for me to do it. Cheese puffs are great, {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 00:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

:Of course! No problem at all :) My only suggestion would be to tie it into Homestar Runner in some way, if possible. Laters, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, yeahs, that's right. Homestar Runner... eh? I'll try. Thanks, man! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

:::No probalo. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== I've been meaning to rage at [[User:Bluebry]] for what he/she did to you before the [[User talk:Addict 2006#What??!! Nothing percent?|slowness]] kicked in ==

But since it's been over a week, and it was over at [[User:Loafing/Archive1#Good riddance!]], but most importantly, it's been over a week, I'd like to be on your side and throw over [[Wikipedia:Template:Uw-npa2|this Wikipedia warning]]. Or a tougher level 3 warning of that. '''''But since it's been over a week,''' and rudeness is... discouraged,'' for lack of a better word, still you have to remember: [[User:Bluebry]] mis-grammared their insult. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 00:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:Oh, it was all part of the April one fun. But now that you mention it, Bluebry is blocked with an expiry time of <math>-\infty</math>. So, I guess he'll just have to wait it out. [[2 emails|Backwards.]] {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:Darth Vader|I kinda hope so, for our sakes. I'm not very forgiving.]] --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

== thanks ==
[[Image:Eguy egg.gif|thumb|an egg]]
I want to personly thank you for keeping me from getting in trouble with that GIF and as thanks you can have this [[:Image:Eguy egg.gif]] It'll hatch on April 17 {{unsigned|Eguy|21:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)}}

== Upgraded ==

Congratulations. Your my favorite sysop. Annoying question, but can be a sysop! ('_'). Thanks for listening, {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:Hi! and thanks :) I don't make those decisions, but I can tell you that sysop responsibilities are usually assigned when there's more work to be done than the current group of sysops can handle. It doesn't look to me like we're currently in that situation.

:Nevertheless, let me tell you that, by far, the things I enjoy most about participating in this wiki are things that any user can do — improving articles, participating in content discussions, collaborating with other users, and so on. Becoming a sysop is a goal for a lot of users, but the small set of maintenance responsibilities sysops take care of isn't nearly as rewarding as earning respect on the wiki by being a great contributor.

:There is [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|a section on the wiki FAQ]] addressing your question, but above that I would encourage you to enjoy trying to make good contributions rather than strive to be a sysop — it's a lot more satisfying! Hope that helps, and keep up the hard work! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

== Sam's Signature ==

I need help with my signature. Can you help me? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:Of course! What do you need help with? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
::Getting my signature like yours a little bit. Having 1 part link to my page, have 1 link to my talk page and 1 linking to my contributions. All of them being different colors. In fact, I don't care if you edit my signature. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::The secret is located at [[Help:Signature#Changing the target of images' links]]. For example, if you wanted to make Strong Bad's head link to your talk page and Homestar link to your contributions, you could do this:
:::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Sam_the_Man http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/7/72/update-sb.png/20px-update-sb.png] [[User:Sam the Man|Sam the Man]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Sam_the_Man http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d9/Buttdance_small.gif]
:::I also added something in there to [[Help:Signature#Preventing signature breakup|prevent it from being broken up when it appears at the end of a line]]. That should get you started — you can rearrange the order of things if you want, of course. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:03, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

== Looking For Assignments ==

Hi, there. . . I'm really looking for some way to make myself useful to the Wiki community (so I don't feel like I joined for no reason ^_^), but I checked stuff out on the Stick and everything I looked at seemed to be done already. Any suggestions? I'm primarily suited for WikiGnome activities--correcting spelling, grammar, cleaning stuff up, etc. Anyway appreciate any help you can give me. Eh! Megan 03:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
:When I am bored, I hit the [[Special:Random|random page link]] in the left column, and look for ways the articles I find might be improved. Try that. And incidentally, did you sign your talk posts with 4 ~'s? It didn't appear like [[User:Eh! Megan/sig|I think you intended]]. Check your settings in preferences again, be sure you have the correct page "User:Eh! Megan/sig" in the signature box. I'm guessing it's not right. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

::Eh! Megan! Qermaq's suggestion is a good one. Here are a couple other ideas:
::*[[:Category:Articles needing cleanup]] — These articles need to be cleaned up, for various reasons (which should be listed on their talk pages).
::*[[:Category:Articles for Discussion]] — These articles have been proposed to be merged with other articles or deleted. Getting involved with these types of discussions is a good way to find out what makes a good article and might give you some ideas of ways to improve other articles.
::*[[HRWiki:List of common misspellings]] — If you click on the links, they'll take you to any pages that contain those misspellings. I'm not sure how much luck you'll have there, but it's worth a try.
::*Lastly, there will probably be a [[homestarrunner.com]] update on Monday, so check back then and there will be quite a few things that need to be updated.
::Hope that helps, and let me know if you have any other questions! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

== Featured articles ==

Can only sysops create featured articles? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:Do you mean, select which ones are featured? If that's what you mean, then no, it's a community decision: [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
::Can only sysops '''write''' featured articles. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::Okay, I think I see what you mean. No, there's no way to be able to predict if an article will one day be featured when it's written. As you know, anybody can create an article, but featured articles are selected from previously existing articles that are deemed to have major significance to the Homestar Runner body of work. Those decisions are made at the above link. Does this answer your question? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Close, but no. Let's say I wrote about Sports for a featured article. Can anybody create those articles or can only sysops create it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::::Anybody can, after consensus is reached about which article will be featured at the above link. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== :-) ==

New sbemail! Happy! {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 14:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yay! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== SB2O ==

Is there any way you could get [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]] and [[SB2O]]'s history to say I created the page because I did create it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Fixed. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== I'm Sam the Man but am in Hyperactive's profile ==

Hi Trey56. This is Hyperactive090. I'm actually Sam the Man at his house. Well, I was wondering, are my pages good enough to be a good page? {{User:Hyperactive090/sig}} though I'm really {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:Hello, [[User:Hyperactive090|Hyperactive090]] / [[User:Sam the Man|Sam the Man]]. Just so you know, you shouldn't edit the wiki from other users' accounts ([[HRWiki:Blocking Policy#"Public" accounts|see policy here]]). You should be aware of this, as users have been blocked for similar actions in the past.

:I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Are you asking if articles that you've created are good enough to be featured on the Main Page? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
==ZAGNUT==
Oddly enough [[Wikipedia:ZAGNUT|Wikipedia]] alwways listed those candy bars on Homestar as ZAGNUTS. It was only us who were unconvinced, be fore you presented your evidence.

Talk:Prawns

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:52:58 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Merge */ clarity

{{tbd}}
Nothing improtant, but when I read the quote "Whaaat is that?" I can't help to think about the cherecter from the movie [[IMDB:tt0145660|Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me]], Fat B****** who said a similar line after looking in his own [[Whatsit]]: (Please to read in deep scotish accent) "What is ''thaaat''? I di'nt eat no corn!" {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

==Merge==
I suggest we merge this article into [[Sea Creatures]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:I disagree. I think prawns deserve a separate page, if only due to their relationship to Stinkoman. It's a different kind of page, see? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I think I agree; though by this argument, whales should have their own page, too... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Well whales, unlike prawn, aren't associated with anyone or anything. They're just randomly referenced. Prawn seem to be connected to [[Stinkoman]], and it could be argued that make them more special. But I actually think both could be merged, though I could see it go either way.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 19:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Prawns

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:52:15 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: ambivalent

{{tbd}}
Nothing improtant, but when I read the quote "Whaaat is that?" I can't help to think about the cherecter from the movie [[IMDB:tt0145660|Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me]], Fat B****** who said a similar line after looking in his own [[Whatsit]]: (Please to read in deep scotish accent) "What is ''thaaat''? I di'nt eat no corn!" {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

==Merge==
I suggest we merge this article into [[Sea Creatures]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:I disagree. I think prawns deserve a separate page, if only due to their relationship to Stinkoman. It's a different kind of page, see? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... I think I agree; though by this argument, whales should have their own page, too... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Well whales, unlike prawn, aren't associated with anyone or anything. They're just randomly referenced. Prawn seem to be connected to [[Stinkoman]], but I actually think both could be merged, though I could see it go either way.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 19:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Sea Creatures

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:48:20 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Whales */ Grammer

[[Image:Deep_sea_fangly_fish.png|thumb|"Turn it out, Strong Bad, turn it out!"]]

There are various sea creatures found in the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. Among the most prominent are [[Wikipedia:Fish|fish]] and [[Wikipedia:Whale|whales]].

==Fish==
*[[Main Page 2]] — The button effects include a fish jumping out of the water and an eagle catching a fish.
*Email [[credit card]] — One of the things on "The Coolest Stuff Ever.com" is a robotic dog/shark.
*Email [[band names]] — One of the band name ideas Dan provides is Invisible Robot Fish.
*Email [[little questions]] — An Easter egg shows a Swedish Flag and the [[Strong Badia]] flag exchanging meatballs for Swedish Fish.
*Email [[lures & jigs]] — While fishing with [[Coach Z]] at [[The Pond|a pond]], some fish jump into the boat as [[Strong Bad]] uses his "jig". The email also includes a game, titled "[[Fishing Challenge '91]]".
*Email [[anything]] — [[Homestar Runner]] thinks "FL", from "Dan from FL", means "Fish Lake".
*Email [[stunt double]] — Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email intro]] is "Oh, I took the email to the market, and I bought it some kind of fish sauce." During the Dangeresque film, "Strong Bad" falls into a kiddie pool with a sign on it marked "Shark Pond".
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] — One of the possible treats to give to [[Bubs]] and [[Coach Z]] at [[The Halloween House]] is Swedish Fish.
*Email [[colonization]] — According to Strong Bad, "the strange man" ([[Bubs]]) probably taught him how to put fish in the ground with corn, in order to grow "some nice fishcorn bushes".
*Email [[lunch special]] — A banner on [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] reads "Super Chinese Fish Buffalo Rice—Smoothies Too!"
*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]] — In an Easter egg, Cheerleader proclaims "fish outta water!" while playing a game of Marco Polo with [[What's Her Face]].
*Email [[animal]] — One of the animals Strong Bad imagines is a [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals#Deep Sea Fangly Fish|Deep Sea Fangly Fish]].
*Email [[radio]] — The test sentence Strong Bad uses to demonstrate the different radio genres is "[[The Fish was Delish and it made Quite a Dish!]]". Also, the logo for "The Sturge" is a sturgeon wearing sunglasses.
*Email [[dreamail]] — Strong Bad uses a "many email fish in the email sea" metaphor and an Easter egg shows an [[Wikipedia:ASCII art|ASCII art]] picture of an [[e-marlin]].
*Email [[boring (really)]] — One of the words in Strong Bad's list of three-letter words is "cod" and an Easter egg shows a drawing of it.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] — Near the end, What's Her Face's guitar turns into a shark.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]] — [[Cheerleader]]'s shirt reads "sell fish".
*Email [[myths & legends]] — One of [[Strong Badia's Seven Elemental Spirits]] is a "fish wearing a fro wig."
*Email [[senior prom]] — Strong Bad says that he ate his weight in creamed fish when he won a twenty-dollar gift certificate to the All-You-Can-Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria.
*Email [[keep cool]] — Strong Bad asks Bubs if he would like to get together a game of "sharks and minnows".
*[[Sketchbook]] - In the March 22, 2007 sketchbook, one of the designs for a possible [[Drive-Thru|drive-thru]] speaker is a fish.

==Whales==
*[[Main Page 3]] — A whale with harpoons it its back appears if you roll over "[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]".
*Email [[island]] — The whale from Main Page 3 appears when Homestar says "Games".
*Email [[no loafing]] — One of the posters Strong Bad puts up has a picture of a whale flying through the clouds.
*[[Drive-Thru]] — The speaker for the oddly absent drive-thru is shaped like a whale.
*Email [[from work]] — In addition to Strong Bad stating that his dream job would be a "2nd 2nd Assistant Space Whale Scrubber," at some point during the same sbemail, Homestar Runner says that his dream job would "be the guy that flies around on that big plastic goldfish, painting the clouds with an oversized novelty toothbrush!"
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] — Strong Bad spray painted over a poster of Marzipan, bearing the caption "Vote Whales".

==Screenshots of Sea Creatures==
<gallery>
Image:main2.PNG|EAGLE'D!
Image:sbemail43.PNG|"Hey, send me some of those Swedish fish."
Image:sbemail44.PNG|"Come on and get in the boat, fish fish!"
Image:Fishwasdelish.PNG|"The Fish was Delish and it made Quite a Dish!"
Image:whatsherfacesshark.PNG|"My bass feels sea-worthy."
Image:Emarlin.PNG|A beautiful e-marlin
Image:7ElementalSpirits.PNG|"The fish wearing a 'fro wig and the British distance runner combined forces to defeat the others."
Image:Whale.PNG|"Sever your leg, please. It's the greatest day."
Image:Sbemail169.png|"Hey! How come your imagination's working?"
</gallery>

==See Also==
*[[Prawns]]
*[[Gooblies]]
*[[Bear holding a Shark]]
*[[Europa-pean Lobster]]

[[Category:Animals]]

Sea Creatures

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:47:50 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Whales */ Strong Bad is A Bad Guy mentioned on Talk:Whales

[[Image:Deep_sea_fangly_fish.png|thumb|"Turn it out, Strong Bad, turn it out!"]]

There are various sea creatures found in the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. Among the most prominent are [[Wikipedia:Fish|fish]] and [[Wikipedia:Whale|whales]].

==Fish==
*[[Main Page 2]] — The button effects include a fish jumping out of the water and an eagle catching a fish.
*Email [[credit card]] — One of the things on "The Coolest Stuff Ever.com" is a robotic dog/shark.
*Email [[band names]] — One of the band name ideas Dan provides is Invisible Robot Fish.
*Email [[little questions]] — An Easter egg shows a Swedish Flag and the [[Strong Badia]] flag exchanging meatballs for Swedish Fish.
*Email [[lures & jigs]] — While fishing with [[Coach Z]] at [[The Pond|a pond]], some fish jump into the boat as [[Strong Bad]] uses his "jig". The email also includes a game, titled "[[Fishing Challenge '91]]".
*Email [[anything]] — [[Homestar Runner]] thinks "FL", from "Dan from FL", means "Fish Lake".
*Email [[stunt double]] — Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email intro]] is "Oh, I took the email to the market, and I bought it some kind of fish sauce." During the Dangeresque film, "Strong Bad" falls into a kiddie pool with a sign on it marked "Shark Pond".
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] — One of the possible treats to give to [[Bubs]] and [[Coach Z]] at [[The Halloween House]] is Swedish Fish.
*Email [[colonization]] — According to Strong Bad, "the strange man" ([[Bubs]]) probably taught him how to put fish in the ground with corn, in order to grow "some nice fishcorn bushes".
*Email [[lunch special]] — A banner on [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] reads "Super Chinese Fish Buffalo Rice—Smoothies Too!"
*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]] — In an Easter egg, Cheerleader proclaims "fish outta water!" while playing a game of Marco Polo with [[What's Her Face]].
*Email [[animal]] — One of the animals Strong Bad imagines is a [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals#Deep Sea Fangly Fish|Deep Sea Fangly Fish]].
*Email [[radio]] — The test sentence Strong Bad uses to demonstrate the different radio genres is "[[The Fish was Delish and it made Quite a Dish!]]". Also, the logo for "The Sturge" is a sturgeon wearing sunglasses.
*Email [[dreamail]] — Strong Bad uses a "many email fish in the email sea" metaphor and an Easter egg shows an [[Wikipedia:ASCII art|ASCII art]] picture of an [[e-marlin]].
*Email [[boring (really)]] — One of the words in Strong Bad's list of three-letter words is "cod" and an Easter egg shows a drawing of it.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] — Near the end, What's Her Face's guitar turns into a shark.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]] — [[Cheerleader]]'s shirt reads "sell fish".
*Email [[myths & legends]] — One of [[Strong Badia's Seven Elemental Spirits]] is a "fish wearing a fro wig."
*Email [[senior prom]] — Strong Bad says that he ate his weight in creamed fish when he won a twenty-dollar gift certificate to the All-You-Can-Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria.
*Email [[keep cool]] — Strong Bad asks Bubs if he would like to get together a game of "sharks and minnows".
*[[Sketchbook]] - In the March 22, 2007 sketchbook, one of the designs for a possible [[Drive-Thru|drive-thru]] speaker is a fish.

==Whales==
*[[Main Page 3]] — A whale with harpoons it its back appears if you roll over "[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]".
*Email [[island]] — The whale from Main Page 3 appears when Homestar says "Games".
*Email [[no loafing]] — One of the posters Strong Bad puts up has a picture of a whale flying through the clouds.
*[[Drive-Thru]] — The speaker for the oddly absent drive-thru is shaped like a whale.
*Email [[from work]] — In addition to Strong Bad stating that his dream job would be a "2nd 2nd Assistant Space Whale Scrubber," at some point during the same sbemail, Homestar Runner says that his dream job would "be the guy that flies around on that big plastic goldfish, painting the clouds with an oversized novelty toothbrush!"
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] — Strong Bad Spray Painted over a poster of Marzipan, bearing the caption "Vote Whales".

==Screenshots of Sea Creatures==
<gallery>
Image:main2.PNG|EAGLE'D!
Image:sbemail43.PNG|"Hey, send me some of those Swedish fish."
Image:sbemail44.PNG|"Come on and get in the boat, fish fish!"
Image:Fishwasdelish.PNG|"The Fish was Delish and it made Quite a Dish!"
Image:whatsherfacesshark.PNG|"My bass feels sea-worthy."
Image:Emarlin.PNG|A beautiful e-marlin
Image:7ElementalSpirits.PNG|"The fish wearing a 'fro wig and the British distance runner combined forces to defeat the others."
Image:Whale.PNG|"Sever your leg, please. It's the greatest day."
Image:Sbemail169.png|"Hey! How come your imagination's working?"
</gallery>

==See Also==
*[[Prawns]]
*[[Gooblies]]
*[[Bear holding a Shark]]
*[[Europa-pean Lobster]]

[[Category:Animals]]

Talk:Sea Creatures

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:42:44 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Aquatic Life */

Anyone else think [[Sharks]] should get its own article? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Aquatic Life ==

Not all fish live in the sea. (See [[Main Page 2]], perhaps.) Dunno if it's too early to suggest ANOTHER move, but [[Aquatic Life]] might be a better bet. (I was actually thinking on this the other day, before all this, coz of the mentions of whales on [[Fish]].) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:[[Aquatic Life]] is fine. But I don't actually count for anything.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 19:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

rough copy

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:57:11 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Explanations */ Generalised the Reference.

{{sbenav|170}}
[[Image:Sbemail170 rough copy.PNG|thumb|"Let's sue him!"]]

Strong Bad attempts to sue Malinko for using him and The Cheat in a comic, Homestar makes a not-fortune in flavored water, and Strong Sad gets his revenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 16, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a singsong voice}'' Sweetheart, get dressed and brush your teeth! It's time for email!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: comics</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
I would like to Draw a few comics about you and the cheat. 
But 1st i'd need to know what type of promblems you and 
the cheat would be faced with. Once i get a rough copy i'd 
send it to you to see how you like it. I hope you interested. 
-Malinko-
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "promblems" and "I hope you interested" as written.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Malinko, I hope ''you'' interested in getting sued into the middle ages by The Cheat and me. Cause that's what would happen if you drew a few comics about us. ''{clears screen}'' Just like that time Homestar started selling Strong Bad flavored water. ''{pronounces "flavored water" queasily, types in wavy blue-green font}'' We shut that mess down on the quickfast.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in The Field with a stack of bottles labeled "SB2O"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got your Strong Bad water right here! S-B-two-oh. Bottled at the source. Pure as a mountain goat.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat approach; The Cheat is wearing a suit and tie and dragging a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's sue him!

''{The Cheat opens the briefcase, which is filled with colored water balloons. Strong Bad and The Cheat start pegging Homestar with the balloons.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray! The orders are violently flying in!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Man, I've got the best lawyer soft tacos can buy. And his aim with those waterbombs is crazy good! He can hit Strong Sad from like three football fields away.

''{Cut to Strong Sad taking notes on a notepad at the athletic field, which has the Jolly Dumple painted in an end zone and a sign next to the sideline reading "FIELD 3".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{taking notes}'' Note to self: ''{flips page}'' get—big—ger— ''{flips page}'' note—boo— ''{flips page}'' —k.

''{Water balloons come flying from behind the trees in the distance, hitting Strong Sad and knocking him on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mercy me!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I think we were suing him for custody of his not-so-thin mints that day.

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat standing next to Strong Bad, holding up a manila envelope.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahoy! An unmarked manila envelope. Must be that weaselly Malinko's comic.

''{The Cheat snaps the envelope open. Strong Bad pulls a white piece of paper out of the envelope and looks at it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh my!

''{Close-up of the paper, which has two scribbles labeled "Strong Bad" and "the Cheat", a few stains, and the signature "-m"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rough copy is right! ''{turns the paper from side to side}'' Uh, you don't need my help finding promblems for these guys, Malinko.

''{Close-up of The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' These don't look anything like us! Man, that kid was going to have so few pants on after we got done suing them off him. And now he's gonna strut around all on-panted waving his pant-covered legs in our faces.''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws paper up in the air}'' You're a genius, The Cheat! Now ''that's'' what I pay you for. Open up. ''{holds up a taco and The Cheat opens his mouth wide}'' Up. Ah! Ah! Ah! ''{throws the taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}'' There you go.

''{The Cheat opens his mouth again and claps his paws together, imitating a seal.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay. One more. ''{throws another taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}''

''{Cut to silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire, walking in front of a cloudy sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Utz. Eetz. Ahtz. Atch.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in The Field, still wearing barbed wire.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we look just like Malinko's cat-scratchings. Our case is air-tight. Why stop at pants? We could probably sue that black zip-up hoodie off him now too!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{turns around and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, this stuff ''does'' make me feel pretty tough. Ooh, in fact... we should star in own action-packed credit sequence called, "Rough Copy!".

''{A "ROUGH COPY!" title screen appears with Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire and holding revolvers. Big band music plays. Cut to Strong Bad, who runs across a row of 2-D silhouetted buildings. The screen reads, "with STRONG BAD" in the corner. Cut to the Cheat, who fires his revolver. The screen reads, "and THE CHEAT" in the corner.}''

''{Two strips of video appear on the screen, one with Strong Bad walking down a sidewalk, and one with the Cheat tossing a taco in his mouth. Cut to a horizontally split screen with Strong Bad pointing his revolver in each one. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat riding down a highway in the [[Gremlin]]. Strong Bad is hanging out the passenger-side window with his revolver drawn, and The Cheat is standing on the roof of the car.}''

''{Cut to white silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat holding their guns, with the text "ROUGH COPY!" above them and "Promblem-Packed Action!" above them. The music ends.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad speaking to Strong Bad and The Cheat at The Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are still wearing barbed wire, and Strong Sad is wearing reading glasses and carrying a very large "Bigger Noootebook"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, gentlemen. I'm here representing my client, Malinko. ''{zoom in on Strong Sad}'' It would seem you are infringing on his ''highly'' intellectual property. ''{points upward on "highly"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be joking! There's nothing intellectual abou—

''{Strong Sad begins pegging Strong Bad with snowballs, and Strong Bad yells.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did you get snowballs this time of year?! ''{Strong Sad continues hitting him with snowballs}'' How did you fit them in that notebook?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{holds a snowball aloft}'' I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight! ''{throws snowball at Strong Bad, who yells}''

''{The screen dims, and Homestar Runner pops in front, holding a bottle of "Malinko Drinko".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinko some Malinko! Crystal clear like domestic beer.

''{Cut back to the Lappy. Strong Bad shakes snow off his head and grumbles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Can't you see Malinko? All this hot legal action is tearing our non-existent friendship apart! Looks like we'll just have to settle out of court.

''{Strong Bad turns away from the Lappy and starts eating a candy bar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm. That's some good settlement. ''{chews}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*When Strong Bad turns away from the computer to respond to The Cheat, click the text on the screen to see a box of Not So Thin Mints.
*At the end of the email, click the candy bar to see Senor Cardgage talk to Strong Bad.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{leaning in from the right}'' Hey, Grendolyn! Don't bogart that settlement now!
*At the end of the email, click the wall plug to see a clip of Homestar Runner sitting on the couch.
:''{Homestar is sitting on Marzipan's couch looking sad. Windy noises.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{after quite some time, sighs}'' DNA evidence.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*[[SB2O|SB2O]] is a play on H2O, the formula for water. Many sports drinks are labeled in a similar fashion.
*Domestic beer is beer made in one's own country. This is most likely a disparaging comment referring to hugely mass-produced American beers which have a reputation for being [http://nymag.com/restaurants/features/22308/ watery and bland].
*The Cheat's clapping his hands together indicating he wants another taco is the manner in which trained seals clap their flippers together to indicate to their trainer that they want more food.
*To "bogart" means "to keep more than one's fair share".


===Trivia===
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#LHX attack chopper|LHX attack chopper]]".
*This is the first time The Cheat's teeth were visible when he fully opened his mouth. The only other 'toon where he fully opened it was [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad and The Cheat seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the soft tacos out of nowhere]].
*This is the first time Strong Sad has been [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship|physically violent]] toward Strong Bad.
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat walk across the field, only the barbed wire they are carrying and the parts of them sticking out from above and beneath it are silhouetted against the sky, whereas the rest of their bodies are clearly visible in all the other shots with them holding the wire.

===Goofs===
*During the second Lappy scene (just after Strong Bad and The Cheat waterbomb Homestar), the ripple effect from clicking on the Lappy's screen can be seen outside the screen area.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's glove moves independently of his arm. Right at the end, the arm snaps into position.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's left cheek doesn't move with his head.
*At the end, the cheek changes sizes before snapping back into place.

===Inside References===
*This is the sixth Strong Bad Email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence|DNA evidence]]. Unlike the previous occurrences, the gag appears in an Easter egg rather than the main cartoon. It also appears that Homestar is aware of the running gag, as he acts like he "had" to say it, judging by his sigh and lack of enthusiasm.
*This email makes reference to [[Pants|pants]], [[Goats|goats]], [[Guns|guns]], and [[Alcohol|alcohol]].
*[[The Jolly Dumple]] can be seen on the football field.
*The scene of Strong Bad and The Cheat silhouetted against the sky is similar in appearance to the scene of Strong Bad marching down to Bubs' in [[isp]].
*Strong Bad's reaction to Homestar's "flavored water" is similar to his reaction to Homestar's bread sing alongs in [[origins]]. In each case, he types "flavored water" and "bread sing alongs" in moving green text. 
*[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogart&defid=988065"Bogart"] was previously used as a verb in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*The song at the beginning is similar to [[Homestar Quiz]], specificially when you get 7 answers correct.
*The Cheat's attorney outfit is from [[sb_email 22]].

===Real-World References===
*"Not-so-thin mints" are a reference to Thin Mints, a type of [[Wikipedia:Girl Scout cookie|Girl Scout cookie]].
**The Strong Sad logo on the box resembles the [[Wikipedia:Trefoil|trefoil]] logo of the [[wikipedia:Girl Scouts of the USA|Girl Scouts]].


==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|170|11205}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

rough copy

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:48:32 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Explanations */ I don't think J2 is needed, if we have the way more blatent Fruit2O

{{sbenav|170}}
[[Image:Sbemail170 rough copy.PNG|thumb|"Let's sue him!"]]

Strong Bad attempts to sue Malinko for using him and The Cheat in a comic, Homestar makes a not-fortune in flavored water, and Strong Sad gets his revenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 16, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a singsong voice}'' Sweetheart, get dressed and brush your teeth! It's time for email!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: comics</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
I would like to Draw a few comics about you and the cheat. 
But 1st i'd need to know what type of promblems you and 
the cheat would be faced with. Once i get a rough copy i'd 
send it to you to see how you like it. I hope you interested. 
-Malinko-
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "promblems" and "I hope you interested" as written.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Malinko, I hope ''you'' interested in getting sued into the middle ages by The Cheat and me. Cause that's what would happen if you drew a few comics about us. ''{clears screen}'' Just like that time Homestar started selling Strong Bad flavored water. ''{pronounces "flavored water" queasily, types in wavy blue-green font}'' We shut that mess down on the quickfast.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in The Field with a stack of bottles labeled "SB2O"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got your Strong Bad water right here! S-B-two-oh. Bottled at the source. Pure as a mountain goat.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat approach; The Cheat is wearing a suit and tie and dragging a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's sue him!

''{The Cheat opens the briefcase, which is filled with colored water balloons. Strong Bad and The Cheat start pegging Homestar with the balloons.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray! The orders are violently flying in!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Man, I've got the best lawyer soft tacos can buy. And his aim with those waterbombs is crazy good! He can hit Strong Sad from like three football fields away.

''{Cut to Strong Sad taking notes on a notepad at the athletic field, which has the Jolly Dumple painted in an end zone and a sign next to the sideline reading "FIELD 3".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{taking notes}'' Note to self: ''{flips page}'' get—big—ger— ''{flips page}'' note—boo— ''{flips page}'' —k.

''{Water balloons come flying from behind the trees in the distance, hitting Strong Sad and knocking him on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mercy me!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I think we were suing him for custody of his not-so-thin mints that day.

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat standing next to Strong Bad, holding up a manila envelope.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahoy! An unmarked manila envelope. Must be that weaselly Malinko's comic.

''{The Cheat snaps the envelope open. Strong Bad pulls a white piece of paper out of the envelope and looks at it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh my!

''{Close-up of the paper, which has two scribbles labeled "Strong Bad" and "the Cheat", a few stains, and the signature "-m"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rough copy is right! ''{turns the paper from side to side}'' Uh, you don't need my help finding promblems for these guys, Malinko.

''{Close-up of The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' These don't look anything like us! Man, that kid was going to have so few pants on after we got done suing them off him. And now he's gonna strut around all on-panted waving his pant-covered legs in our faces.''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws paper up in the air}'' You're a genius, The Cheat! Now ''that's'' what I pay you for. Open up. ''{holds up a taco and The Cheat opens his mouth wide}'' Up. Ah! Ah! Ah! ''{throws the taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}'' There you go.

''{The Cheat opens his mouth again and claps his paws together, imitating a seal.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay. One more. ''{throws another taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}''

''{Cut to silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire, walking in front of a cloudy sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Utz. Eetz. Ahtz. Atch.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in The Field, still wearing barbed wire.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we look just like Malinko's cat-scratchings. Our case is air-tight. Why stop at pants? We could probably sue that black zip-up hoodie off him now too!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{turns around and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, this stuff ''does'' make me feel pretty tough. Ooh, in fact... we should star in own action-packed credit sequence called, "Rough Copy!".

''{A "ROUGH COPY!" title screen appears with Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire and holding revolvers. Big band music plays. Cut to Strong Bad, who runs across a row of 2-D silhouetted buildings. The screen reads, "with STRONG BAD" in the corner. Cut to the Cheat, who fires his revolver. The screen reads, "and THE CHEAT" in the corner.}''

''{Two strips of video appear on the screen, one with Strong Bad walking down a sidewalk, and one with the Cheat tossing a taco in his mouth. Cut to a horizontally split screen with Strong Bad pointing his revolver in each one. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat riding down a highway in the [[Gremlin]]. Strong Bad is hanging out the passenger-side window with his revolver drawn, and The Cheat is standing on the roof of the car.}''

''{Cut to white silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat holding their guns, with the text "ROUGH COPY!" above them and "Promblem-Packed Action!" above them. The music ends.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad speaking to Strong Bad and The Cheat at The Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are still wearing barbed wire, and Strong Sad is wearing reading glasses and carrying a very large "Bigger Noootebook"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, gentlemen. I'm here representing my client, Malinko. ''{zoom in on Strong Sad}'' It would seem you are infringing on his ''highly'' intellectual property. ''{points upward on "highly"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be joking! There's nothing intellectual abou—

''{Strong Sad begins pegging Strong Bad with snowballs, and Strong Bad yells.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did you get snowballs this time of year?! ''{Strong Sad continues hitting him with snowballs}'' How did you fit them in that notebook?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{holds a snowball aloft}'' I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight! ''{throws snowball at Strong Bad, who yells}''

''{The screen dims, and Homestar Runner pops in front, holding a bottle of "Malinko Drinko".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinko some Malinko! Crystal clear like domestic beer.

''{Cut back to the Lappy. Strong Bad shakes snow off his head and grumbles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Can't you see Malinko? All this hot legal action is tearing our non-existent friendship apart! Looks like we'll just have to settle out of court.

''{Strong Bad turns away from the Lappy and starts eating a candy bar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm. That's some good settlement. ''{chews}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*When Strong Bad turns away from the computer to respond to The Cheat, click the text on the screen to see a box of Not So Thin Mints.
*At the end of the email, click the candy bar to see Senor Cardgage talk to Strong Bad.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{leaning in from the right}'' Hey, Grendolyn! Don't bogart that settlement now!
*At the end of the email, click the wall plug to see a clip of Homestar Runner sitting on the couch.
:''{Homestar is sitting on Marzipan's couch looking sad. Windy noises.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{after quite some time, sighs}'' DNA evidence.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*[[SB2O|SB2O]] is a play on H2O, the formula for water.
*SB2O is also a reference to Fruit2O, a name brand juice drink with the same play on words.
*Domestic beer is beer made in one's own country. This is most likely a disparaging comment referring to hugely mass-produced American beers which have a reputation for being [http://nymag.com/restaurants/features/22308/ watery and bland].
*The Cheat's clapping his hands together indicating he wants another taco is the manner in which trained seals clap their flippers together to indicate to their trainer that they want more food.
*To "bogart" means "to keep more than one's fair share".

===Trivia===
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#LHX attack chopper|LHX attack chopper]]".
*This is the first time The Cheat's teeth were visible when he fully opened his mouth. The only other 'toon where he fully opened it was [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad and The Cheat seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the soft tacos out of nowhere]].
*This is the first time Strong Sad has been [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship|physically violent]] toward Strong Bad.
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat walk across the field, only the barbed wire they are carrying and the parts of them sticking out from above and beneath it are silhouetted against the sky, whereas the rest of their bodies are clearly visible in all the other shots with them holding the wire.

===Goofs===
*During the second Lappy scene (just after Strong Bad and The Cheat waterbomb Homestar), the ripple effect from clicking on the Lappy's screen can be seen outside the screen area.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's glove moves independently of his arm. Right at the end, the arm snaps into position.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's left cheek doesn't move with his head.
*At the end, the cheek changes sizes before snapping back into place.

===Inside References===
*This is the sixth Strong Bad Email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence|DNA evidence]]. Unlike the previous occurrences, the gag appears in an Easter egg rather than the main cartoon. It also appears that Homestar is aware of the running gag, as he acts like he "had" to say it, judging by his sigh and lack of enthusiasm.
*This email makes reference to [[Pants|pants]], [[Goats|goats]], [[Guns|guns]], and [[Alcohol|alcohol]].
*[[The Jolly Dumple]] can be seen on the football field.
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat are sillhouetted against the sky, it is very similar to its design in [[isp]].
*Strong Bad's reaction to Homestar's "flavored water" is similar to his reaction to Homestar's bread sing alongs in [[origins]]. In each case, he types "flavored water" and "bread sing alongs" in moving green text. 
*[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogart&defid=988065"Bogart"] was previously used as a verb in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*The song at the beginning is similar to [[Homestar Quiz]], specificially when you get 7 answers correct.
*The Cheat's attorney outfit is from [[sb_email 22]].

===Real-World References===
*"Not-so-thin mints" are a reference to Thin Mints, a type of [[Wikipedia:Girl Scout cookie|Girl Scout cookie]].
**The Strong Sad logo on the box resembles the [[Wikipedia:Trefoil|trefoil]] logo of the [[wikipedia:Girl Scouts of the USA|Girl Scouts]].


==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|170|11205}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Eggs

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:33:02 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Eric, I think that line in redundant. We already said they were an inside joke.

{{about|inside joke}} {{fortoon|Eggs (toon)}} {{for|hidden items in [[Toons]]|Easter egg}}
[[Image:sbemail54.PNG|thumb|top|"So I got a lot of eggs. And I keep 'em in the couch."]]

[[Wikipedia:Egg_(biology)|'''Eggs''']] seem to be an [[Inside Jokes|inside joke]] in the [[Homestar Runner universe]].

==Appearances==
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]] [[Strong Bad]] says he's out of eggs for his baking.
*The [[Egg Throwing Game]] is a bonus game at the beginning of [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Strong Bad's EGGS]] brand type cereal is seen in [[morning routine]], and various eggs are featured throughout the email.
*In the email [[pom pom]], [[Homestar Runner]] mentions "dot egg".
*The website on the [[Easter egg]] on the DVD version of the email [[studying]] is called [[Bookazon.com|bookazon.egg]].
*In the email [[garage sale]], an egg carton is on sale for $EGG.
*In the email [[colonization]], [[Strong Sad]] ridicules Strong Bad for eating his eggs with ketchup. Also, Homestar declares that eggs are not a fruit.
*In the email [[monument]], one of the items used in Strong Bad's planned monument is a "Big Green Egg" barbecue.
*In the email [[secret recipes]], Homestar claims to have a Stupid Uncle Egg.
*In the email [[flashback]], [[The Cheat]] and a lifetime supply of fishsticks hatched out of a large egg.
*In the email [[dreamail]], Strong Bad has a Cadbury Cream Egg omelette. He also compliments Adelaide on her poached eggs.
*In the email [[pop-up]], the [[sticky notes|sticky note]] in the refrigerator in Strong Bad's pop-up book says "2 more eggs!"
*In the email [[disconnected]], Homestar refers to [[Head Bad and Strong Body|Head Bad]] as "Eggman".
*In [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], the [[King of Town]] describes Strong Bad as having a head like a "big old, round old, red old, nasty old egg."
*In [[Bug in Mouth Disease]], Strong Bad compliments himself for making the best omelette ever during a commercial break.
*In the [[Broken Compy Menu]] toon, Homestar claims he came to [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] for freedom, liberty, savings, milk, and eggs.
*In [[The Interview]], "eggs" appears on Homestar's grocery list.
*In [[Halloween Potion-Ma-Jig]], one of the lyrics in Homestar's song is "The world is the egg".
*[[Where's an Egg?]] is a game based entirely on finding a missing egg.
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]], Homestar sends a "text message" to [[Marzipan]] reading "plz get eggs,milk?"
*In [[Kid Speedy]], one of the tracks is the "EGG MOUNTAIN M[[Lowercase i's|i]]N[[Lowercase i's|i]]THON".
*In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]], when [[The Ugly One]] and [[What's Her Face]] sing a campfire song about the Chumbly Wumbly Bear, a lyric asks "did he sell eggs?"
*In [[Summer Short Shorts]], Homestar wears a hat with the word "Egg" and a picture of a fried egg on it.
*In the email [[retirement]], The King of Town's burp creates a bubble that transforms into an egg when popped.
*In an Easter egg in [[Happy Hallow-day]], [[Homsar]] is seen standing near some "eggs trees".
*The [[Holidays#Easter|Easter]] short [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]] features egg-shaped variations of Homestar Runner, [[Pom Pom]], Marzipan, and Strong Bad.
[[Category:Inside Jokes]][[Category:Generic food and drinks]]

Talk:Whales

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:30:50 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Change of Heart

==[[Fish]]==
Just a note: right now, [[Fish]] includes appearances of whales. So, either the whale appearances should be removed from that page, or this page should be deleted, so that the information isn't listed in two places. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:Well as the [[Fish]] page says, Whales aren't exactly fish. But as this is a Homestar wiki and not a taxonomy wiki, I see no problem with only having the fish page. Plus there are only two references to Whales, so they don't really merit their own page{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not the biggest fan of our current biologically incorrect way of doing it. Note also that there is also one reference to whales not listed here: "Vote Whales" from [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually come to think of it, there are more than two whale references, something that a glance at [[Fish]] confirmed. In that case, I would say it's a toss-up. Either way all the Whale stuff should be on one page.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Whales

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:24:51 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Thoughts

rough copy

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:05:57 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Grammer

{{sbenav|170}}
[[Image:Sbemail170 rough copy.PNG|thumb|"Let's sue him!"]]

Strong Bad attempts to sue Malinko for using him and The Cheat in a comic, Homestar makes a not-fortune in flavored water, and Strong Sad gets his revenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 16, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a singsong voice}'' Sweetheart, get dressed and brush your teeth! It's time for email!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: comics</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
I would like to Draw a few comics about you and the cheat. 
But 1st i'd need to know what type of promblems you and 
the cheat would be faced with. Once i get a rough copy i'd 
send it to you to see how you like it. I hope you interested. 
-Malinko-
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "promblems" and "I hope you interested" as written.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Malinko, I hope ''you'' interested in getting sued into the middle ages by The Cheat and me. Cause that's what would happen if you drew a few comics about us. ''{clears screen}'' Just like that time Homestar started selling Strong Bad flavored water. ''{pronounces "flavored water" queasily, types in wavy blue-green font}'' We shut that mess down on the quickfast.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in The Field with a stack of bottles labeled "SB2O"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got your Strong Bad water right here! S-B-two-oh. Bottled at the source. Pure as a mountain goat.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat approach; The Cheat is wearing a suit and tie and dragging a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's sue him!

''{The Cheat opens the briefcase, which is filled with colored water balloons. Strong Bad and The Cheat start pegging Homestar with the balloons.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray! The orders are violently flying in!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Man, I've got the best lawyer soft tacos can buy. And his aim with those waterbombs is crazy good! He can hit Strong Sad from like three football fields away.

''{Cut to Strong Sad taking notes on a notepad at the athletic field, which has the Jolly Dumple painted in an end zone and a sign next to the sideline reading "FIELD 3".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{taking notes}'' Note to self: ''{flips page}'' get—big—ger— ''{flips page}'' note—boo— ''{flips page}'' —k.

''{Water balloons come flying from behind the trees in the distance, hitting Strong Sad and knocking him on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mercy me!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I think we were suing him for custody of his not-so-thin mints that day.

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat standing next to Strong Bad, holding up a manila envelope.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahoy! An unmarked manila envelope. Must be that weaselly Malinko's comic.

''{The Cheat snaps the envelope open. Strong Bad pulls a white piece of paper out of the envelope and looks at it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh my!

''{Close-up of the paper, which has two scribbles labeled "Strong Bad" and "the Cheat", a few stains, and the signature "-m"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rough copy is right! ''{turns the paper from side to side}'' Uh, you don't need my help finding promblems for these guys, Malinko.

''{Close-up of The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' These don't look anything like us! Man, that kid was going to have so few pants on after we got done suing them off him. And now he's gonna strut around all on-panted waving his pant-covered legs in our faces.''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws paper up in the air}'' You're a genius, The Cheat! Now ''that's'' what I pay you for. Open up. ''{holds up a taco and The Cheat opens his mouth wide}'' Up. Ah! Ah! Ah! ''{throws the taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}'' There you go.

''{The Cheat opens his mouth again and claps his paws together, imitating a seal.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay. One more. ''{throws another taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}''

''{Cut to silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire, walking in front of a cloudy sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Utz. Eetz. Ahtz. Atch.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in The Field, still wearing barbed wire.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we look just like Malinko's cat-scratchings. Our case is air-tight. Why stop at pants? We could probably sue that black zip-up hoodie off him now too!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{turns around and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, this stuff ''does'' make me feel pretty tough. Ooh, in fact... we should star in own action-packed credit sequence called, "Rough Copy!".

''{A "ROUGH COPY!" title screen appears with Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire and holding revolvers. Big band music plays. Cut to Strong Bad, who runs across a row of 2-D silhouetted buildings. The screen reads, "with STRONG BAD" in the corner. Cut to the Cheat, who fires his revolver. The screen reads, "and THE CHEAT" in the corner.}''

''{Two strips of video appear on the screen, one with Strong Bad walking down a sidewalk, and one with the Cheat tossing a taco in his mouth. Cut to a horizontally split screen with Strong Bad pointing his revolver in each one. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat riding down a highway in the [[Gremlin]]. Strong Bad is hanging out the passenger-side window with his revolver drawn, and The Cheat is standing on the roof of the car.}''

''{Cut to white silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat holding their guns, with the text "ROUGH COPY!" above them and "Promblem-Packed Action!" above them. The music ends.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad speaking to Strong Bad and The Cheat at The Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are still wearing barbed wire, and Strong Sad is wearing reading glasses and carrying a very large "Bigger Noootebook"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, gentlemen. I'm here representing my client, Malinko. ''{zoom in on Strong Sad}'' It would seem you are infringing on his ''highly'' intellectual property. ''{points upward on "highly"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be joking! There's nothing intellectual abou—

''{Strong Sad begins pegging Strong Bad with snowballs, and Strong Bad yells.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did you get snowballs this time of year?! ''{Strong Sad continues hitting him with snowballs}'' How did you fit them in that notebook?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{holds a snowball aloft}'' I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight! ''{throws snowball at Strong Bad, who yells}''

''{The screen dims, and Homestar Runner pops in front, holding a bottle of "Malinko Drinko".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinko some Malinko! Crystal clear like domestic beer.

''{Cut back to the Lappy. Strong Bad shakes snow off his head and grumbles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Can't you see Malinko? All this hot legal action is tearing our non-existent friendship apart! Looks like we'll just have to settle out of court.

''{Strong Bad turns away from the Lappy and starts eating a candy bar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm. That's some good settlement. ''{chews}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*When Strong Bad turns away from the computer to respond to The Cheat, click the text on the screen to see a box of Not So Thin Mints.
*At the end of the email, click the candy bar to see Senor Cardgage talk to Strong Bad.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{leaning in from the right}'' Hey, Grendolyn! Don't bogart that settlement now!
*At the end of the email, click the wall plug to see a clip of Homestar Runner sitting on the couch.
:''{Homestar is sitting on Marzipan's couch looking sad. Windy noises.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{after quite some time, sighs}'' DNA evidence.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*[[SB2O|SB2O]] is a play on H2O, the formula for water.
*SB2O is also a reference to Fruit2O and J2, a name brand juice drink with the same play on words.
*Domestic beer is beer made in one's own country. This is most likely a disparaging comment referring to hugely mass-produced American beers which have a reputation for being [http://nymag.com/restaurants/features/22308/ watery and bland].
*The Cheat's clapping his hands together indicating he wants another taco is the manner in which trained seals clap their flippers together to indicate to their trainer that they want more food.
*To "bogart" means "to keep more than one's fair share".

===Trivia===
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#LHX attack chopper|LHX attack chopper]]".
*This is the first time The Cheat's teeth were visible when he fully opened his mouth. The only other 'toon where he fully opened it was [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad and The Cheat seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the soft tacos out of nowhere]].
*This is the first time Strong Sad has been [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship|physically violent]] toward Strong Bad.
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat walk across the field, only the barbed wire they are carrying and the parts of them sticking out from above and beneath it are silhouetted against the sky, whereas the rest of their bodies are clearly visible in all the other shots with them holding the wire.

===Goofs===
*During the second Lappy scene (just after Strong Bad and The Cheat waterbomb Homestar), the ripple effect from clicking on the Lappy's screen can be seen outside the screen area.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's glove moves independently of his arm. Right at the end, the arm snaps into position.
*At the end of the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's left cheek doesn't move with his head.
*At the end, the cheek changes sizes before snapping back into place.

===Inside References===
*This is the sixth Strong Bad Email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence|DNA evidence]]. Unlike the previous occurrences, the gag appears in an Easter egg rather than the main cartoon. It also appears that Homestar is aware of the running gag, as he acts like he "had" to say it, judging by his sigh and lack of enthusiasm.
*This email makes reference to [[Pants|pants]], [[Goats|goats]], [[Guns|guns]], and [[Alcohol|alcohol]].
*[[The Jolly Dumple]] can be seen on the football field.
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat are sillhouetted against the sky, it is very similar to its design in [[isp]].
*Strong Bad's reaction to Homestar's "flavored water" is similar to his reaction to Homestar's bread sing alongs in [[origins]]. In each case, he types "flavored water" and "bread sing alongs" in moving green text. 
*Strong Bad is eating a [[Wikipedia:ZAGNUT|Zagnut]] bar, seen previously in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], [[kind of cool]], and [[flashback]]. Senor Cardgage is known to carry [[Aldi Bag|a bag]] full of them.
*[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogart&defid=988065"Bogart"] was previously used as a verb in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*The song at the beginning is similar to [[Homestar Quiz]], specificially when you get 7 answers correct.
*The Cheat's attorney outfit is from [[sb_email 22]].

===Real-World References===
*"Not-so-thin mints" are a reference to Thin Mints, a type of [[Wikipedia:Girl Scout cookie|Girl Scout cookie]].
**The Strong Sad logo on the box resembles the [[Wikipedia:Trefoil|trefoil]] logo of the [[wikipedia:Girl Scouts of the USA|Girl Scouts]].


==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

Aliases Used in Prank Calls

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:55:13 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: Style fix

[[Image:MarzipanAnsweringMachineV11.png|thumb|200px|Alias magnet]]
Beginning in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]], [[Strong Bad]] has repeatedly prank-called [[Marzipan]] and tried to deceive her by pretending to be (and referencing) various fake personae. Although many of his pranks involve impersonating known [[Characters|characters]], these '''aliases''' represent unknown persons whose very names betray the deception — especially those with the telltale "-body" ending.

In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], Strong Bad tried to pass along his craft to [[Homestar Runner]], with pathetic results. Homestar, Marzipan, and others have also used a few ridiculous aliases of their own, often not in Marzipan's Answering Machine toons.

Although the callers sometimes slip up and unintentionally betray their true identities, in most cases they attempt to maintain the charade of the alias. Notable exceptions include Goatface admitting to being Strong Bad (presumably so he can deliver his insult more directly) and Dead Guy Perez slipping back into Homestar's voice.

Most of these aliases are also considered [[Nicknames|nicknames]] for the related characters.

==Strong Bad==
*Mr. Nobody (from the [[Toilets|Toilet]] Patrol) — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]]
*Detective Everybody (down here at the station) — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]]
*Marzipan — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3.0]]
*King of Town — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
*Constable Anybody (over here at the Royal Society for Total Dorks) — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]
*Dr. Professional — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 6.0]]
*Homestar Runner — [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*Safety [[Dan]] (over here at the Safety Squad) — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]
*Sweepstakes Ron — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]]
*Cableman Jorge — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]
*Bob Statesman (I'm running for Elected Official this Tuesday), a.k.a. Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]
*Goatface — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]
*All your friends — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]
*Lorenz Magazine Man — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]]
*Nadine Automated Menu Burger, calling from Trusted Financial Institution — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]]

== Homestar Runner ==
*Dead Guy Perez (alternately known as the D.G.P.) — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]]
*[[Batman]] — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]
*Sugar-face (A pretend guy that comes around and...gets run over by a lawnmower blade!) — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]
*Boyfriend [[Dan]] — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]
*The Goatface Killa — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]
*[Strong Bad's] next door neighbor, the crocodile — [[Missing Lappy]]

== Marzipan ==
*Not Marzipan — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]

== [[The King of Town]] ==
*Strong Bad — [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
*Furious Fingers from Los Angeles — [[Missing Lappy]]

==See Also==
*[[Blatant Lies]]

[[Category:Name running gags]][[Category:Lists]]

Aliases Used in Prank Calls

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:54:34 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Goatface */ I thought about this long and hard. Deleting Goatface. Not sure how else to go about this

The House That Gave Sucky Treats

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:50:27 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: /* Fast Forward */ Delete fact in accordance with Talk:Rough Copy. I'm pretty sure this would fail STUFF

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|halloween2001|A Mother's Day Message|Some Stupid Turkey}}
[[Image:halloween2001.png|thumb|"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"]]

All the characters come to ''your'' house to trick-or-treat! You get to pick one of three treats to give them in an interactive game.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Knight}}, {{Film|The Hornblower}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}

See '''[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[The Halloween House]], [[Spooky Woods]]

'''Date: ''' October 27, 2001

'''Page Title:''' Trick, then treat, then smell feet

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

== Transcript ==
''{spooky music plays}''

A Homestar Runner Cartoon

"The House That Gave Sucky Treats"

Voices by Matt Chapman & Missy Palmer

Written, Directed and Animated by Los Brothers Chaps

''{Homestar's head pops up slowly, then lightning flashes and thunder cracks}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, hello. This year, we're going to do things a little differently. ''{scary voice, eyes slanted menacingly}'' We're all coming to your house to trick or treeeeat! ''{normal face and voice}'' So just answer the door, pick a treat, and drag it on top of us. We'll do the rest. ''{Pause}'' Okay, bye!

=== Coach Z ===
''{Knocks in a rhythm.}''

====Intro====
:''{rapping}'' Doot-doo-doot-doo, an' I'll drink up all the Hennessy ya got on your shelf, but first let me introduce myself. My name is Coach Z. Pronounced with an "oach Z."

====Jujyfruits====
:Ooh, Jorjyfruits! Oh, I mean Jerjyfrorts. I mean, ''{straining}'' GEORGIE FRORGIE! ''{pause}'' George Foreman?

====Boston Baked Beans====
:Ya know, I once knew a fellow in Boston 'could tell ya the time of the day at any time of the day. Ya'd say, "Say there Boston, what's the time of day?" And he'd say, "10:30." And you'd look at him and say, "But Boston, it's half past noon!" And he'd look back at ya and say, "Well, those are the breaks."

====Cherry Clan====
:Da Cherry Clan. Are they related to the Wu-Tang Clan? 'Cause ya know, their first album was the ''BAERMB''! In fact, you don't have a copy of "The 36 Chambers" in there, do ya? 'Cause I'd love to listen to it right now! Ya mind if I come in?

=== The King Of Town ===
''{Rings the doorbell instead of knocking.}''

====Intro====
:Trick or treat, I'm horrible! ''{Strong Bad pokes his head out from the right of the screen and says, "You got that right."}''

====Butterscotch====
:Ooh, butterscotch! Would you mind melting those down and pouring them over a ham? ''{pulls out a [[Ham|ham]]}''

====Fun size Butterfinger====
:That's it?! Well, if you think that I'll accept this paltry treat just because it has "butter" in the name... well, you'd be right! Give it here!

====Stick of Butter====
:Ooh, a stick of butter! ''{noisily scarfs the stick of butter} {still with butter in his mouth}'' Trick or treat. Again? Please??

=== Strong Mad and The Cheat ===
''{Bangs on door, creating yellow bursts.}''

====Intro====
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''
:'''STRONG MAD:''' IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING?

====Rock Candy====
:'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{staring at it, puzzled.}'' HALLOWEEN!

====Pop Rocks====
:''{The Cheat eats the Pop Rocks}''
:'''STRONG MAD:''' NO. NO! NOOO!!
:''{The Cheat takes a drink of cola}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{squealing The Cheat noises, head explodes}''

====Rocks====
:''{Strong Mad eats the rocks, then bites off half of a can of cola. The Cheat's head inexplicably explodes.}''

=== Marzipan ===
''{Also rings the doorbell.}''

====Intro====
:''{singing}'' Hey, ho! Let's go! Hey, ho! Trick or treat!

====Candy Corn====
:''Candy'' corn?? Do you have any real corn? Or Indian corn?

====Rice Cakes====
:Hey, rice cakes! I like to eat them without water.

====Steak====
:Is this a joke? It's not funny. ''{Strong Bad drops three more steaks into her bag with a grin on his face}''

=== The Poopsmith and Pom Pom ===
''{Knocks rapidly and softly.}''

{''They don't have an intro, as neither can really speak.''}

====Mary Jane====
:''{They look at each other, then The Poopsmith holds up a sign that says "Give us something good instead". Pom Pom laughs.}''

====Chick-O-Stick====
:''{The Poopsmith dunks it in a bucket labeled "dippin stuff", which looks suspiciously like [[Whatsit|whatsit]]. He offers it to Pom Pom, who shakes his head "no".}''

====Astropop====
:''{The Poopsmith shoots his gun at Pom Pom so it reflects off Pom Pom's "I ♥ Flint" button and his microphone and hits himself in the chest sensor. He falls off the side of the steps.}''

====Pumpkin====
:''{The "secret" music from the [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|Zelda]] video game series plays. The pumpkin is firmly lodged in The Poopsmith's mouth. When the door closes, a pixelated caption reads "YOU UNLOCKED A SECRET CHARACTER!"}''

=== Homsar ===
''{Knocks "[[Wikipedia:Shave and a Haircut|Shave and a Haircut]]".}''

''{This is an Easter egg, only accessible if you give The Poopsmith or Pom Pom the pumpkin.}''

====Intro====
:I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!

====Shavin' Creem====
:YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!

====Black and Orange Taffy====
:''(singing)'' If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit...

====Wrench====
:Oh no, I think this is my favorite!

=== Strong Bad ===
''{Instead of knocking or ringing, Strong Bad yells, "Open the freakin' door!"}''

====Intro====
:Where in the world is my candy?

====Fun Size Butterfinger====
:Oh, a "fun size" candy bar? Tell me this: what's fun about eating less candy? Maybe if you gave me an entire bag of them it would be fun. The only fun I'm going to have with this thing is smearing it all over your door when I leave. ''{If you choose this, the door is smeared with the Butterfinger when Strong Sad shows up.}''

====Marshmallow Bunny====
:Why you lazy crap for crap! All you've got is old freakin' Easter candy? This thing's rock hard, man! Well, you just made it onto my "People I gotta egg today" list. ''{He shows you the list:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#FFFF99;color:#000;width:25%">
People to egg 
(in no particular order) 
 
ronnie pudding 
 
king of town 
 
kewpie dan 
 
homestar 
 
you lazy crap for crap
</blockquote>

====Apple====
:What is ''this'' crap?!? What are you, a dentist? Or a hippie? Or some kind of ''hippie dentist''?

=== Strong Sad ===
''{Knocks softly.}''

====Intro====
:Trick or treat, I guess.

====Necco candy wafers====
:Oh, Necco Wafers. These remind me of when I used to eat the colored chalk when I was in school. I was sick for a year and nearly died...

====Baking Chocolate====
:''{a bit surprised and bounces slightly}'' Oh! Baking Chocolate! I used to eat this stuff when there was no chocolate in the house. And now, it's my only friend.

====Campbell's Soup====
:Oh. While I do appreciate the relevance of this, given my costume, I was kind of hoping for something that I wouldn't have to prepare. You know, like Necco Wafers or baking chocolate...

=== Bubs ===
''{Knocks "[[New Boots|Hip Hop Dance]]"}''

====Intro====
:''{singing}'' Please, baby please, baby baby baby ''please''! Gimme some candy!

====Mallo Cup====
:''{singing}'' I got a shallow gup and a crallow nup, somebody give me dat Mallow Cup.

====Dum-Dums====
:Oh! ''{singing}'' I'm such a big dum-diddy-dum-diddy-diddy-diddy-dum-dum...my.

====Bazooka Gum====
:I never understand the comics that come in this bubble gum. I mean, the first frame is some guy saying,''{he unfolds the comic and shows it to you}'' "Look out, the sky is falling!" And the second frame is some guy getting hit on the head with a rock ''{he unfolds the comic and shows it to you again. The second frame is captioned "Fortune: The rock hit the guy in the sweater"}''. And I'm sitting there going, "What the heck just happened?", and before I know it, I swallowed my bubble gum!

=== Homestar Runner ===
''{Homestar continually knocks until you answer.}''

====Intro====
:''{singing}'' Believe it or not, I'm walkin' around, I never thought I could trick or tre-e-eat...

====Smarties====
:All right, Smarties! Marzipan said to eat lots of these this year. I'm not really sure why she said that though. ''{Crickets chirp, record scratches when Homestar breaks the silence.}'' Umm... trick or treat!

====Circus Peanuts====
:''{Dances and "doots" ''[[Wikipedia:Entrance of the Gladiators|Entrance of the Gladiators]]'' (known to most as a circus theme). You close the door, but Homestar rings the doorbell, and when you answer, he is still dancing and singing.}''

====Handful of Change====
:''{sounding slightly disappointed}'' Oh... a handful of change. I guess I can use this to go, um, buy some candy. So... thank you for adding a step to my Halloween process.

== Later that Night... ==

"'''Vote for your favorite costume!!'''" is written at the top. Everybody is standing around in his or her costume. Run your cursor over each to see a caption (shown here in parentheses after the character's name). If you click on one to vote for, an email is started to ween@homestarrunner.com, with a different subject line and text for each character:

*The Poopsmith (Lazer Tag):
**Subject: Teddy Poopspin
**Text: I Choose YOU, Poopachu

*The King of Town (Hagar The Horrible):
**Subject: King of Town, Now Sit Down
**Text: I Choose YOU, Kingachu

*Strong Mad (The Fridge):
**Subject: Strong Madden Football 99
**Text: I Choose YOU, Strong Madchu

*Coach Z (Humpty Hump):
**Subject: 1 2 3 Coach Z
**Text: I Choose YOU, Coach Zchu

*Pom Pom (Michael Moore):
**Subject: Pom Pom for Prez
**Text: I Choose YOU, Pom Pomchu

*Bubs (Mars Blackman):
**Subject: Bubs has got it goin ON
**Text: I Choose YOU, Bubsachu

*Strong Bad (Carmen San Diego):
**Subject: Why do you keep dressing up as girls
**Text: I Choose YOU, Strong Badchu

*The Cheat (Punchy):
**Subject: How bout a nice Hawaiian Cheat
**Text: I Choose YOU, Cheatachu

*Homestar Runner (The Greatest American Hero):
**Subject: Homestar Riggidy Riggidy Runner
**Text: I Choose YOU, Homestarchu

*Homsar (Wimpy):
**Subject: Homsar Salad Sandwich
**Text: I Choose YOU, Homsarchu

*Marzipan (Joey Ramone):
**Subject: Marzipan is a Laugh Riot Grrl
**Text: I Choose YOU, Marzychu

*Strong Sad (Andy Warhol):
**Subject: A vote for Strong Sad is a vote for America
**Text: I Choose YOU, Strong Sadchu

=== The Discussion ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, for the last time, I'm not The Spanish Inquisition, I'm not Cab Calloway, and I'm not Strong Bad wearing a yellow turtleneck! I'm Carmen freakin' Sandiego!!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I like Cab Calloway.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, Poopsmith, that's the worst costume I ever saw. I mean, you're ''Lazer Tag''? What, are you supposed to be dressed up as the product or is it more abstract than that, like you're supposed to be the concept of Lazer Tag? Come on man, you know you just found that old crap in a trunk in your basement.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ease off, Strong Bad! He's not the one that dressed up as a ''girl'' two years in a row.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh ho ho ho, you asked for it, King. ''{Strong Mad punches The King of Town}''

'''BUBS:''' Did any of you guys go to that house that was givin' out change? I changed my costume and went back ten times. I made 35 dollars!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did you guys go to that house where they let you into this big room and there's all these people wearing black hoods and they ask you these questions about life and existence and if you answer them wrong you get eternal damnation, but if you answer them right you get a Twizzler?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No.

'''COACH Z:''' Nope.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No.

'''BUBS:''' Nope.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh.

'''STRONG MAD:''' NO.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh. Never mind.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I like your costume, Strong Sad, but you weren't invited this year.

'''COACH Z:''' Say, Pom Pom, check out this funky bass groove! A doo'rear, a doo'ri, a doo'rear, a doo'ri! ''{Grooves around a little}''

''{Pause}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Have they voted yet? I really have to pee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, and the Poopsmith's not smelling any rosier, either.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, oh! I've got an idea! Let's totally freak 'em out. ''Let's repeat the stuff that we just saaaaid!''

''{loops back to the start of the discussion}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Strong Bad's egging list is up, click on "[[Kewpie Dan|kewpie dan]]" to see.. something. (Note: although this egg appears to be glitched, it was intended to open [[HR:kewpiedan.html|this page]] in a new window.)
*When Pom Pom and the Poopsmith knock at your door, move the pumpkin that's sitting on your porch onto them to unlock Homsar. Homsar will only appear in the final scene if you unlock him, though he doesn't say anything.
*In the final scene when all of the characters are talking, you can roll over the skull, pumpkin and moon to see funny captions.
**Skull: Get offa me!
***This is a reference to the email [[vacation]] where the stickie note says "Get offa me!"
**Pumpkin: No costume. Just a pumpkin.
**Moon: Just pick a freakin' character already!

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The length of this toon was originally listed as "?:??" on the Toons page, and now as 4 minutes.
**This is because you could sit there for hours on end doing ''no'' commands, and the length would be longer than 240 seconds.
*Marzipan's costume has a small hole in it and you can see her pink flesh beneath, giving further evidence to the theory that her body is actually skirt-shaped.
*Originally Coach Z's intro rap was: "Doot-doo-doot-doo, and I think I'll make ya fall right down on your face, but first let me introduce myself. My name is Hoodsey. Pronounced with an 'oodsey.'"
*This is the first instance of [[The Cheat's Head Exploding]].
*The Bazooka Joe comic you see when you give Bubs Bazooka Joe Bubble Gum originally came from an idea The Brothers Chaps thought up for a possible weekly feature. It was never released until they showed it at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|March 1st, 2005 NYU Talk]].
*This is the first toon to feature all the [[Characters#Main_characters|main characters]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:weirdedoutthecheat.PNG|thumb|Weirded out.]]
*Giving The Cheat and Strong Mad [[Wikipedia:Pop Rocks|pop rocks]] shows you a rare glimpse of The Cheat's mouth open without his teeth being visible.
*Bubs's comment about the house that was giving out change is interesting; he went back ten times (making a total of 11 trips) and made $35, implying that the inhabitant was giving out a surprisingly generous $3.18 per trick-or-treater, on average.
*The only candy that shows up twice is the Fun Size [[Wikipedia:Butterfinger|Butterfinger]].
*Clicking "Back" takes you to [[Main Page 7]], the Halloween Main Page.
*Strong Bad is seen during the King of Town's segment as well as in Marzipan's reaction to steak, but he is not in costume in either one.
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] didn't use the current style of animation on Strong Bad (his shadowed eyes), even though they used it in an earlier toon, [[A Mother's Day Message]].
*When The King of Town appears, Strong Bad has the new diamond but older eyes, and when he comes to the door, he is in his older style.

===Goofs===
*In the final scene where all of the characters are talking, Strong Bad's caption is misspelled: it should read "[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]]," not "Carmen San Diego."
**Bubs's caption is also misspelled as "Mars Blackman" instead of "Mars Blackmon."
*When Homestar says, "We're coming to your house to twick or treat!", the bottom outline on his cap moves.
*When Strong Bad smears the Butterfinger bar on the door and Strong Sad shows up, the melted chocolate on the door disappears when the choices of candy show up.

===Glitches===
*The light switch can be moved up and down, but it doesn't do anything. You can flip the switch even while the door is opened, and if you leave the light switch down, it will automatically go back up when the next person knocks.
*When viewed in [[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Firefox]], there are weird sounds related to the door opening and closing. They are always at the same place.
*After Strong Bad says, "Open the freakin' door!" we can hear the sound of the door opening.
*After Bubs says, "Gimme some candy!", the outline under his mouth vanishes, and the shading of his 'MARS' chain also changes.

===Inside References===
*The following are all references from the previous year's Halloween toon, [[Homestarloween Party]]:
**The music that plays when Homestar rises up at the start is the same one used when it was time for "Scary Flashlight Ghost Storytelling With a Flashlight".
**The skull and pumpkin are the same ones which served as the "play" button.
**Stuffing the pumpkin into the Poopsmith's mouth is a reference to when he was seen bobbing for pumpkins and holding them in his mouth.
**Marzipan noting at the end that "I like your costume, Strong Sad, but you weren't invited this year" refers to the fact that he had been uninvited by Marzipan the previous year.
**The King of Town's comment on Strong Bad dressing up as a girl for two years in a row refers to the previous Halloween toon where Strong Bad dressed up as [[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]].
*Bubs's line when you give him the [[Wikipedia:Dum Dum Pop|Dum-Dum Pop]] is a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
*Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
*Coach Z's rap is a reference to [[Alcohol|alcohol]].

===Real-World References===
*Coach Z raps a couple lines from [[Wikipedia:Digital Underground|Digital Underground's]] biggest hit song, "The Humpty Dance," substituting his own name for Humpty Hump's. The drink he mentions, [[Wikipedia:Hennessy|Hennessy]], is a brand of cognac, or brandy. Another line is used at the voting screen when Coach Z tells Pom Pom to "check out this bass groove right here."
*The joke involving The Cheat consuming Pop Rocks and soda is a reference to [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/poprocks.htm an urban legend] that states that Mikey, the [[Wikipedia:Life (cereal)|Life cereal]] mascot, died when consuming Pop Rocks and soda caused his stomach to explode.
*When you drag the pumpkin onto Pom Pom and the Poopsmith, the music that is played is from the [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|''Legend of Zelda'' games]], usually when you unlock something (like blowing up a wall with a bomb, thus creating a door). The particular sound music they use in the toon is from "[[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]]", as you can hear the dungeon music after the sound plays.
*Ronnie Pudding, the first name on Strong Bad's list of houses to egg, is the name of [[Wikipedia:Spinal Tap|Spinal Tap's]] first bassist.
*Strong Bad greets you with "Where in the world is my candy?", a reference to the computer game and TV show "[[Wikipedia:List of Carmen Sandiego products#Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?|Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?]]" from which his costume comes.
*Strong Sad's comment on receiving the [[Wikipedia:Campbell Soup Company|Campbell's soup]] is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Andy Warhol|Andy Warhol's]] (whom Strong Sad is dressed as) series of paintings ''Campbell's Soup''.
*"Please baby, please baby, baby baby please" is a reference to Mars Blackmon's (whom Bubs is dressed up as) exact same line in [[imdb:tt0091939|She's Gotta Have It]].
*The skull's line at the end when you hold the mouse pointer over it ("Get offa me") is a quote from Murray, the Demonic Talking Skull from the [[Wikipedia:Monkey Island|''Monkey Island'']] games.
*Homsar's greeting is a play on [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy's]] famous line "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."
*Marzipan's intro is "Hey, ho! Let's go!" from [[Wikipedia:The_Ramones|the Ramones']] 1976 hit, "Blitzkrieg Bop". This was also a reference/tribute to Joey's death earlier in 2001.
*Homestar's greeting is sung to the tune of (and is a play on) the theme song to the TV show [[Wikipedia:The Greatest American Hero|The Greatest American Hero]].
*[[Wikipedia:Cab Calloway|Cab Calloway]] was a famous jazz bandleader and singer whose career spanned many years.
*Homestar saying Strong Bad's costume is the "[[Wikipedia:Spanish Inquisition|Spanish Inquisition]]" is a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Monty Python|Monty Python]] [[Wikipedia:The Spanish Inquisition (Monty Python)|sketch of the same name]] in which [[Wikipedia:Michael Palin|Michael Palin]], [[Wikipedia:Terry Jones|Terry Jones]], and [[Wikipedia:Terry Gilliam|Terry Gilliam]] were dressed in similar costumes.
*The Poopsmith holding up a sign due to his inability to talk (or his vow of silence) is reminiscent of Wile E. Coyote of [[Wikipedia:Looney Tunes|Looney Tunes]] fame.
* The "I choose YOU, <insert character name here>chu" is an obvious reference to the show "[[Wikipedia:Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]]," where one character, [[Wikipedia:Ash Ketchum|Ash]], has a similar famous line, "I choose YOU, Pikachu!"
* The subject line of the email when the Poopsmith is chosen for best costume, Teddy Poopspin, references [[Wikipedia:Teddy Ruxpin|Teddy Ruxpin]], a popular toy from the 80's made by Worlds of Wonder, the same company that made Lazer Tag.
* If you choose the King of Town for best costume, the subject line of the email is "King of Town, Now Sit Down." This is a reference to Sierra Online's [[Wikipedia: Quest for Glory|Quest for Glory]] (aka Hero's Quest), where the phrase "Hut of brown, now sit down" was used to gain access to Baba Yaga's magic hut.
* If you choose Strong Sad for best costume, the subject line of the email is "A vote for Strong Sad is a vote for America." This is a reference to 1984 Presidential Candidate Walter Mondale's Campaign slogan, which was "A vote for Walter Mondale is a vote for America." Mondale lost the election to Ronald Reagan in a landslide, winning only his home state (Minnesota) and the District of Columbia.


===Fast Forward===
*"Cheatachu" later became The Cheat's screen name in [[i she be]] and [[marzipan]].
*The music that was used as Homestar was rising would later be used in the Strong Bad Email [[theme park]] as background music for "The Strong Sad Gets Decked Repeatedly Stunt Spooktacular".
*"Your house" was later reused in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] where you could, once again, choose Coach Z's and Bubs's treats (and Stinkoman's, too).
*The phrase "Get offa me!" would later be said by a [[Sticky Notes|sticky note]] in the email [[vacation]].
*This toon started the [[Bubslegum Comics]].
*The jingle that Homsar sings when given candy sounds strangely like the jingle for [[SBLOUNSKCHED!]], in [[candy product]]
*The 2005 Halloween toon, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], is also done in the style of a decision-making game, just like this Halloween toon.
*The result of the voting contest was finally revealed, 5 years after the toon's release, in [[Halloween Awards Show]].
*Bubs' knocking at the door would become the rhythm for Hip Hop Dance from [[New Boots]].

== DVD Version ==
*The title and opening credits scene has been moved to after the first scene.
*Homestar does not ask the viewer to drag the treats on top of them.
*The doors open on their own.
*Coach Z no longer says "George Foreman?" when offered the Jujyfruits.
*The "unlocking" sound for Homsar is higher-pitched and cleaner.
*Homsar's lines for the shaving cream and wrench are inexplicably switched.
*Homsar appears in the ending whether he was unlocked or not.
*Marzipan adds "What's wrong with girls?" after Strong Mad punches The King of Town.
*Marzipan says "No" to Strong Sad's question just before Strong Sad replies.
*Homestar does not ask if the viewer has voted yet.
*As Homestar starts the repetition of the end scene, the scene fades out.
*If you wait too long without making a choice when Pom Pom and The Poopsmith are at the door, the Homsar scene is automatically unlocked.

== See also ==
*[[Strong Bad's Treat Snatcha]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:halloween2001.html|watch "The House That Gave Sucky Treats"]]
*[[HR:halloween2001.swf|view the Flash file for "The House That Gave Sucky Treats"]]

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Crack Stuntman

Geshmalderborgen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:47:37 GMT

Geshmalderborgen: I'm being Bold. Deleting irrelevent discussion of Stuntmen.

[[Image:CrackStuntman.PNG|thumb|"BLAAAAH'm Crack Stuntman."]]
[[Image:Sketchbook-4-5-07.PNG|thumb|left|Sketch'd!]]
'''Crack Stuntman''' is the voice actor for [[Gunhaver]] on the [[Cheat Commandos]]. He apparently doesn't take his job too seriously, since he never seems to have a firm idea of how his character's name is correctly pronounced (He's pronounced it "Gun-hay-ver" and "The Gun Shaver"), and has incorrectly referred to the cartoon as "the Cheat Command-show". Crack has been seen in a rap music video/public service announcement trying to convince kids not to play with too many knives and to inform them about Spring Break. He is also the national spokesperson of [[Pistols For Pandas]].

He is a Caucasian man in his late twenties or thirties, with blond hair and a five o'clock shadow. He does bear resemblance to several G.I. Joe characters. He also bears a striking resemblance to [[wikipedia:Duke Nukem (character)|Duke Nukem]], from the Duke Nukem Video Game series.

== Filmography ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] (voice only)
*[[An Important Rap Song]]

==Quotes of the Week==
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*{{qotw|"I've had it up to HERE with your shinoligans! If you could see me you'd see that I'm holding my hand up to my chin. And I'm pretty tall!"|[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] outtake|Mirror:crack_up2here.mp3}}
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