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<div style="background:gold;border:1px #990 dashed;padding:12px"><center>'''This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are ''not'' active. Please see [[HRWiki:STUFF]] for active votes.'''</center></div>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
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Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.
Things that always make good fun facts:
Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
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* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
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* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
Things that often do not make good fun facts:
Things that often do not make good fun facts:
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* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
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* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
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* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")
Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.
Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.
If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
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[[Category:STUFF|Old STUFF]]
== Voting ==
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
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* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
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**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
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== Toons and E-mails ==
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== STUFF'd Facts ==
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=== [[time capsule]] ===
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===[[mile]]===
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The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
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*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Pick the Brain ====
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====Fourth Wall Break?====
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The [[Kick the Can]] cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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Strong Bad made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.
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(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)
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*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== [[huttah!]] ===
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The Cheat made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.
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====Title====
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*I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the [[Talk:mile|Talk]] page, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to '''accept''' this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
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The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.  
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*'''Accept''' I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in [[anything]] it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second the comment.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second the comment''' [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''COMMENT.''' Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
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** '''Not neccesary'''. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen.  Anyone who thought someone wouldn't figure this out needs their brain examined. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
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===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
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*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
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====Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?====
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==== Marzipan a Vegetarian? ====
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Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
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Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.  
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*'''Decline.''' I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline as written.''' But see revision below. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''decline-''' We all know marzipan is a vegetarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here? (sorry for not signing, my first time,[[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)  
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'''REVISE TO:''' Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
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**'''Second.''' (But sign your vote!) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:11, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept the revision.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**I gotta '''Second''' this. Sorry. [[User:thatkidsam|dark_predator! okay, fine... thatkidsam]]
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*'''Accept.''' I mean, he must ''really'' think that joke is funny. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:27, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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*Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Vegetarians say phrases like this all the time, it doesn't make them unreasonable. --[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 00:35, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/demo|new format]]''', which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Accept.''' Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- [[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]
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*'''Decline.''' It is a saying that has nothing to do with literally cooking goose. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Accept but revise''' I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
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**'''Sorcorndorned!''' (seconded) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Still Decline''' For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one ''refers'' to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Much better. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Aught Four Crap ====
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===[[dangeresque 3]]===
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====So holdable a gun====
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The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.
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Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.
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*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would.  Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Yeah, I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''decline''' This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics"  it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four"  this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said. [[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
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====People's Court====
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**'''second''' Apologies, I had never heard "aught-four" before in my life (or aught-anything, for that matter) and thought it had been invented by Strong Bad on the spur of the moment. Go ahead and delete it if it's not considered a reference to the e-mail. --Sokko
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As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The_People%27s_Court|The People's Court"]].
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*'''Accept.''' Although it is an accepted term, it's very rarely used (and isn't technically correct). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Duh-duh Decline!''' I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Revise''' - I've never heard "aught four" before, and if Strong Bad says it somewhere else then it is, as far as I'm concerned, a good enough reason to include. [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:17, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''decline''' It's just another way of saying '04; it didn't originate on this site nor is it a specific reference to anything elseIf he'd said "oh-four," this wouldn't even be an issue. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:42, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
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**But he didn't say "oh four", he said "aught four", which is actually pretty archaic and extremely uncommon. It's no coincidence that it was also said by Strong Bad in [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*** Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' - I though Aught Four was Naught Four without the N. -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept''' If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --[[User:Freshmutt|FM]] 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact themeThat would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song  --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** I got news for you  Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
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***Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own.  --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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==== Broken phone ====
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===[[Experimental Film]]===  
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====The Water====   
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The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.
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Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/51/ Salad Fingers] Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/39/ rusty metal], this might be intentional.
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*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Decline with a comment.''' So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
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** '''Second''' both the vote and the question. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** If they're not ''allowed'' to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And '''decline''' to this ridiculous fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****'''Second''' to all these subcomments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Donnie Declineo''' Sorry. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*My mouth tastes like... '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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===[[sisters]]===
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*'''Decline.''' Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Love/Hate Relationship====
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*'''Rewrite.''' I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
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*'''Decline.''' It's more than likely a reference to [[replacement]] rather than salad fingers. -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
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*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**i agree about it being a refrens to replasment and have never herd of "saled fingers"
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
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**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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***Because it implies poor quality? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***Because it's in a box of useless stuff that Bubs didn't manage to sell. No one is going to buy a rusty steak knife, or electrical tape, or a banana with a toy arrow stabbed through the center. -- [[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
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**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
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****I'll be there! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
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*****Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I ''know'' she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' clich&eacute;. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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******"Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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*'''Decline'''Not because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***'''Second''' Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**** It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen [[gimmicks]], which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to [[gimmicks]]. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*****Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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==== Has what it takes ====
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===[[Homestar Runner's Website]]===
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Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.
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====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====
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*'''Decline.''' Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".  
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**Second-[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Decline''' Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --[[user:super orange!|super orange!]]
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*'''Decline''' This just sounds like the way he talks.  That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--[[User:clhinton|clhinton]]
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i agree about homestarmy
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==== Coach Z's Phone ====
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*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].
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===[[boring (really)]]===
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====102 Exclamations====
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There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
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*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not?  But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
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**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline'''  Yeah.  Its true.  However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to.  I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept.''' 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''' Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed?  Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case.  And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon.  People might be curious. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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*'''Accept''' Why not? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
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*'''Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT''' I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Universal Decline''' This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept!! >:(''' There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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====Are these really goofs? part 1====
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*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
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You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
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*secondt
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*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
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**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit*''' Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.
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==== "Oh cwap" vs "I say.." ====
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====Are these really goofs? part 2====
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The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
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<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
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*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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**Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
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***Have a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. As for the fact, '''Accept''' as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to [[The King Of Town DVD]], when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."
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====Are these really goofs? part 3====
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*'''Uber-decline''' That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. [[user:super orange!|super orange! the lone/first voter!]]
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If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
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*'''Uber-Second''' even if you thought that was so, Homestar says "I say" three times in the KoT dvd, and Homestar says "Oh cwap!" '''four''' times
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** D'oh!  Well the connection positively jumped out at me and smacked me in the face--I think of it every time I see it. [[User:socetew|socetew]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept, but not as Goof'''This is actually worth noting, kinda. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== It's odd considering... ====
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====&#171;Insert hilarious joke here&#187;====
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The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.
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It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.
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* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her"  the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
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*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline'''Probably not good material for a Fun Fact.
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*'''Revise''' When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song.  Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason.  This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?
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*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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====You said doyng again!====
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*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
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Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
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**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
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*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing&mdash;but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
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*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be.  I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do.  Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes.  Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I <i>thought</i> he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
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*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
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**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''You said ACCEPTED again!''' --[[User:Iml91|Iml91]] 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"?''' --[[User:Poopsmith Z|Me]]
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* This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*** Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''What are you, um... Declining?''' I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
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*'''Accept''' Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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==== Garfield X-mas ====
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====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
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Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].
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Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302596/ Garfield Christmas Special], in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."
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*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' This is an obvious reference to the '''Decline''' above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I think ''not'' sir. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah '''decline'''
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**You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain '''neutral''' on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline.''' Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted."  [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Sometimes people just say stuff. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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*I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]]. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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====Boring sound====
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The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
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*That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
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*'''Decline.''' Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly ''not'' a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Second. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam strikes again!]]
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**'''Second.''' Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually.  Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc.  Never saw The Smurfs one. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
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* Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second''' - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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**'''Second.''' Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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** Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. --[[User:68.196.82.110|68.196.82.110]] 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*** (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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***The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Decline.''' For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Alms for the Pudgy ====
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===[[Senorial Day]]===
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====Vera low====
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The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.
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*'''Decline''' Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second'''. Prezactly. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Sort of Accept''' Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
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** It's Senor, but not Se&ntilde;or. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"
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===[[little animal]]===
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====Used once more====
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The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
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*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun."  This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' for '''Trivia.'''  This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
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===[[time capsule]]===
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**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====The Life Saving Turtle====
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**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].
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==== 1 on 1 ====
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*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.'''  Good eyes.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation.  In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.
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===[[Main Page 22]]===
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====ALL WRONG.......====
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Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.  
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park.  sorry bout that.  XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]
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==== Electrical Tape? ====
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'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.
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===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
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====Unaired Episodes!====
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"teenage girl show!
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Revamped for the 90's.
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More humor! Finer dining!
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See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tapeEven if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Accept'd!''' That does make senseI think it's a good find.  And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
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**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
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****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
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*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
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*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
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<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
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well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
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was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
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including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
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I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
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*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
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*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection.  The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
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*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
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*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
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*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
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**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
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**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***'''Second (the decline).'''  If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s!  See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection.  It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
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*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
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*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.'''  Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls.  I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone is a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
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=== [[The Luau]] ===
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==== Unexpected guests? ====
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*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
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**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
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*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***'''Comment...''' But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 20:46, 16 Jun 2005
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==== Candy Cane ====
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===[[unused emails]]===
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====CDs====
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This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
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The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the [[Decemberween In July]] menu.
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*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''possible rewrite'''I get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's.  No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailxmas.html 'SBemail Xmas Menu'] and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in [[Homestar Presents: Presents|this toon]] and a previous one. --[[User:The_Paper|The Paper]]
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===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
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*'''Decline.''' More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?"  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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==== "state trooper" ====
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====Different Colors====
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Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]]  Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)
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The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.  
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(Correction:  I made a mistake.  The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)
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*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
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**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]]  Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
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====Tiny eye difference====
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**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
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The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
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*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Accept as rewritten.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== A running gag? ====
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====Liekand's magic pockets====
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The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
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Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
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* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here.  I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
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* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
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* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
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=== [[the facts]] ===
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====G'oh!====
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== Recently closed items ==
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The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"
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=== [[rock opera]] ===
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====Angled?====
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The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.  
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*'''Accept.''' I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' I suppose... --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
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*'''Accept.''' Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:32, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
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*'''agree''' That sure sounds like homer. -Nate
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=== [[radio]] ===
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====Error?====
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
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On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
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Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference?  My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====
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===[[guitar]]===
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====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
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Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:guitar]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o)  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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=== [[kind of cool]] ===
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** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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====Homestar's Singing====
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==== Stop calling me Senator ====
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When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
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Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to [[Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_11.2| Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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*'''Revise, accept.''' Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:kind of cool]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second''' My thoughts exactly. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[animal]] ===
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===[[privileges]]===
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==== check out all my dimensions ====
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====Fretmagic Kids!====
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Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications."  This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."
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"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:privileges]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Foster's Home ====
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===[[flashback]]===
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The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.
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*Yeah....  Um. Yeah.  I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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====Emails====
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it.  You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
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**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.'''-- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 12:36, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline''' Guess what?  There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin!  [[Kevin]] is automatically a reference to this character!  Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name!  It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name!  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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===[[pom pom]]===
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*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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====hidden frame====
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*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
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*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:pom pom]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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===[[part-time job]]===
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*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
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====The Answering Room====
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<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
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Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.
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Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
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:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.'''  Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
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*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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==== Just me being picky ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:part-time job]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
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===[[boring (really)]]===
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*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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====Definitely not the hat, though====
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*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
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*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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==== Weird laptop ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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===[[old comics]]===
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*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
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*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
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**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
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==== Off-screen typing ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[secret recipes]] ===
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*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
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<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
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Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
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on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
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:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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==== Babies havin' babies ====
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====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
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Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
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===[[cheatday]]===
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Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]].  It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.
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====Get outta here kid?====
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Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
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*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Quadratic formula ====
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===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
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[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
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*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
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*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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*'''Delete'''.  It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
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**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
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*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school.  That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it.
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==== Pi ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.
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*'''Modify and keep'''.  While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[Senorial Day]]===
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**'''Second.''' Maybe just
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====Old Gron Sad voice?====
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The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
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Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
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which is an infinite number.
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: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''' Way too obvious.  --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''.  A little too obvious.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon."  --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said.  Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== 3D Bubs legs ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.
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*'''Delete'''.  Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
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*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
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*'''Modify but keep'''.  I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part.  It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
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*'''Decline'''.  I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
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**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
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*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.
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*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Lurking around====
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*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
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Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
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**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''.  Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that.  --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Senor Shrub====
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*'''Keep but Modify'''.  I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!
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I'm tired of brackets!]]
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*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
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**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
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*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice.  A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
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*'''Decline'''.  Incorrect.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
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*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software.  Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
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*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
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**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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==== Gilligan's Island? ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
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====Oh, what a feeling====
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The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[time capsule]]===
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*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Eyes====
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*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
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*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Isle of Pom?====
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The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[long pants]]===
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====No "la dee la dee la"?====
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Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Speaking ====
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====Edga Jr. removes text?====
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This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.
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Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
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*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack.  Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Accept.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
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===[[monster truck]]===
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Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.
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====Get Back Loretta!====
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The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===
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=== [[The Luau]] ===
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==== Reference? ====
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==== Large Blank Space ====
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In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".  
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If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[anything]] ===
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====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===
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"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.
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=== [[do over]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Tandy 400 Goofs====
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When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
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=== [[Main Page 22]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== The Old Man Fishin' ====
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====Totally not gettin' old?====
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"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.
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When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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====George W. Stnank====
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
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**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --Yeah, it's already mentioned. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second.'''Pretty obvious. --[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== [[anything]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
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====Stnank or Not?====
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.
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Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
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'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.'''  Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad."  -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
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*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails.  In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome."  Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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****No comparison?  How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
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*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above.  People will probably catch this after watching it a few times.  Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript.  This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' on the grounds that there is no clear evidence that Homestar is referring to "Dan", the sender. He seems to think he has an entire class, and "Dan" is not necessarily part of that class. Homestar is obviously refering to someone in his "class", not "Dan".
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==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====
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====A Type of Bad Grammar====
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This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.
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Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Soda Physics ====
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====Grammatically Incorrect====
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The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.
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Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes.  "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right".  Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
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*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[personal favorites]] ===
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===[[cheat talk]]===
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==== The Beginning and the End ====
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===To "T" or not to "T"===
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The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].
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At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.
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*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
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'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[impression]] ===
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===[[Stinkomanual]]===
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==== Elephant Slippers ====
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====Saargtsson Ltd.====
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When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.
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The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company. ''(revised)''
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*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkomanual]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 20:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Get it off ====
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===[[labor day]]===
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Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.
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====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====
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:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.  
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think there's really a connection. -- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:15, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== The Only Time? ====
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===[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]===
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This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
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====Music by TMBG?====
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*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]?  Maybe it is, maybe not.  --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
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The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
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*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
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** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
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***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.  
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'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]
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====555-What?====
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=== [[Malloween Commercial]] ===
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The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)
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==== Mallowcremes ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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"[[Fluffy Puff Malloweens|Malloweens]]" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.
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===[[comic]]===
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====CORRECTIONED====
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the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
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'''VERDICT.''' Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:comic]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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===[[garage sale]]===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 20:56, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:18, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== [[Decemberween Kids' Book]] ===
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====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====
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==== Magic Ball #1 ====
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Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.
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The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the ''Palantir'' from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Magic Ball #2 ====
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===[[theme park]]===
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The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.
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====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
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'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor:  Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003).  In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show).  While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].
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==== Magic Ball #3 ====
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'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
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Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
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'''VERDICT:''' Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' SB's magic ball only burns flesh when it glows, which doesn't apply to any of the above. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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=== [[montage]] ===
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===[[couch patch]]===
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==== Animal House ====
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====Computer miscommunications====
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At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)
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The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film ''Animal House'', when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:couch patch]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]] 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Too common in comedies. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Accept.''' While this does happen in a lot of movies, using it as the easy-way-out ending for a comedy pretty much began with Animal House, predating its use in other films like Legally Blonde (apparently; I've never seen it) and Fast Times at Ridgemont High. --poogas
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*'''Decline.''' Although this kind of montage probably did start with ''Animal House'', this usage of it is probably just a parody of the whole cliche of the "what happened to _________" montage itself, rather than any particular film. (Besides, Animal House just said "[NAME] [GRADUATING CLASS] [FATE]," so this, which uses complete sentences (with lower case) cannot be a direct reference to it. Yes, I'm a geek...) --Jeffrey
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==== headphones ====
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===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
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When watching the flash file, during the montage of Strong Bad and the wagon falling in love, you can see that the headphones they use to listen to the record player aren't plugged into anything.
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====A legendary voice, you screech?====
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*'''Very decline.''' We do not track problems "outside the wall" because they're irrelevant -- [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] didn't intend for you to see that. See the last paragraph of the [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun_Facts|Fun Facts]] section of the Standards document. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 21:14, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.  
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 15:44, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== hellboy ====
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'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.
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==== scoreboard ====
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===[[Under Construction]]===
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The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.
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====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
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1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
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*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Under Construction]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== ketchup ====
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===[[rampage]]===
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The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]
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==Games==
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====rampage easter egg====
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At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====Wagon Wheel====
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===[[Main Page 6]]===
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This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Outta Sync?====
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*'''Accept.'''  I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
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Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.  
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*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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== General ==
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'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
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===[[best thing]]===
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==== Trust ====
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==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
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In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
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Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
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*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
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''(rewrite)''
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**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
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===[[origins]]===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
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====Cut the Crusts====
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Why does everyone think that just because they heard it on a show it was unique only to that show?? --[[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]] 09:44, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Who's that Drummond? Redux==== 
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] Come on, people!  Have you never heard that phrase before?
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"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
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**'''Suh-hecond!''' FAR too common. -- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:25, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
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==== Homestar's Clock ====
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It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Charlie Brown ====
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.
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'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== A running gag? ====
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The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[animal]] ===
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==== Just me being picky ====
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The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Fanglyfish ====
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The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[virus]] ===
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==== Drive letter ====
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After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.
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=== The Brothers Chaps ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== 'Til Death and all that ====
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====The Compy's Reign====
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Both of the Brothers are married.
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This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
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*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' Hmm. Okay! --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Accept.''' Where is this on the wiki?  It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of [[Missy Palmer|his wife]] doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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=== [[Email FAQ]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== A Jumping Jack Contest and Marshmallow's Last Stand ====
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===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
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This FAQ claims that [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]] will back on the site one day, but never says why they were taken off.
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====More Levels====
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When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".
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*'''Move.''' This should be noted somewhere on the page for each of these toons. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:04, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Current revision as of 07:01, 12 September 2007

This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are not active. Please see HRWiki:STUFF for active votes.

The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

[edit] Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

[edit] To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

[edit] STUFF'd Facts

[edit] mile

[edit] Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

  • I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
  • Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
  • COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] The House That Gave Sucky Treats

[edit] Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0

  • Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0.

  • Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
  • Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
    • Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
    • The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -Svelt
  • Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dangeresque 3

[edit] So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

  • Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
  • Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

  • Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
      • Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
      • Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Experimental Film

[edit] The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

  • Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
  • Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second both the vote and the question. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sisters

[edit] Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

  • Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
        • I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
          • Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
  • Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
    • The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
      • I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
        • It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
          • Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Homestar Runner's Website

[edit] World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

  • Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • ...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] 102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

  • Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip TC 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
    • Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
  • Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

  • Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.
  • Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
    • Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

  • Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, but not as GoofThis is actually worth noting, kinda. -- Lappy 486 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] «Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

  • Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
  • Second. It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --SBEmail22 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • DeclineProbably not good material for a Fun Fact.
  • Revise When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song. Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason. This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?

[edit] You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

  • Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House That Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: It wasn't just a pause. He said, "What are you... um... doing..."
      • Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. GG Crono 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --Big Dog 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinating the Countryside. I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
    • Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes close, but does Strong Bad actually reference "car"? No, he does not. — It's dot com 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You said ACCEPTED again! --Iml91 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"? --Me
  • This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. Donny vs Universe
      • Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • What are you, um... Declining? I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --Lappy 486 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
  • Accept Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....Because, It's Midnite

[edit] Oops, I STUFF'd it!

Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the system sounds quote pack.

  • Decline. Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is an obvious reference to the Decline above. -- tomstiff 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think not sir. -- Tony Stony 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah decline
    • You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain neutral on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --SBEmail22 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Decline. Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted." Svelt 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Sometimes people just say stuff. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005

[edit] Boring sound

The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in Teen Girl Squad Issue 3.

  • Decline. Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly not a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --BazookaJoe 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Vera low

The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.

  • Decline Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --BazookaJoe 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Prezactly. phlip TC 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sort of Accept Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
  • If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. Decline Donny vs Universes

[edit] little animal

[edit] Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

  • Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip TC 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
  • Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • 9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept for Trivia. This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -Svelt

[edit] time capsule

[edit] The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

  • D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Good eyes. -Svelt

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

VERDICT: The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Main Page 22. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CONTEST: I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective talk page. — It's dot com 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!

[edit] Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
    • Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
      • What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
        • By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
          • Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
  • Revise and accept. Make it like this:
The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
  • Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
    • Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
  • Acceptalized. 82.43.178.225
  • Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
  • Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
    • Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
    • Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
      • Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
  • Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
  • Decline. This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — It's dot com 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls. I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity. -Svelt

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

  • Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -Svelt
      • Comment... But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -Kiwi 20:46, 16 Jun 2005

[edit] unused emails

[edit] CDs

This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

  • Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • possible rewriteI get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite. This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's. No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -Svelt

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

  • Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
    • Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Massive Rewrite
    The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
    That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip TC 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Accept as rewritten.It's dot com 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.


[edit] Recently closed items

[edit] rock opera

[edit] Angled?

The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] guitar

[edit] That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:guitar. -- tomstiff 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kind of cool

[edit] Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:kind of cool. -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] privileges

[edit] Fretmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:privileges. -- tomstiff 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] flashback

[edit] Emails

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:flashback. -- tomstiff 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pom pom

[edit] hidden frame

For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:pom pom. — It's dot com 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] The Answering Room

Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:part-time job. — It's dot com 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:boring (really) -- tomstiff 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] old comics

[edit] Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:old comics. -- tomstiff 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] secret recipes

[edit] The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes. -- tomstiff 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheatday

[edit] Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheatday. -- tomstiff 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Times Halloween Funjob

[edit] 3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob. -- tomstiff 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] Eyes

Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. — It's dot com 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. -- tomstiff 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] long pants

[edit] No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

VERDICT: This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] monster truck

[edit] Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Reference?

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] anything

[edit] The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] do over

[edit] Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. — It's dot com 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

VERDICT: After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheat talk

[edit] To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

VERDICT: After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheat talk. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkomanual

[edit] Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company. (revised)

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkomanual. — It's dot com 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] labor day

[edit] Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug In Mouth Disease

[edit] Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 555-What?

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

VERDICT: This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comic

[edit] CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

VERDICT. Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to Talk:comic. — It's dot com 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] garage sale

[edit] Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme park

[edit] Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

VERDICT: Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:theme park. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] couch patch

[edit] Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

VERDICT: This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:couch patch. — It's dot com 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

[edit] Under Construction

[edit] Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Under Construction. — It's dot com 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rampage

[edit] rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. — It's dot com 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page 6

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

CLOSED. The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to Talk:Main Page 6. — It's dot com 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] best thing

[edit] Alternative vs. Hair Metal

Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success. (rewrite)

VERDICT: This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing. — It's dot com 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] origins

[edit] Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins. -- tomstiff 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

VERDICT: The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8. — It's dot com 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

CLOSED: This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on Homestar's House, which it already is. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

VERDICT: This item was accepted and moved. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Runner. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] animal

[edit] Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] virus

[edit] Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

VERDICT: This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

CLOSED. This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough. — It's dot com 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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