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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
Things already noted in the transcript
Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

[edit] Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

[edit] To be done

How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
- Right now they are in HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive
- Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

[edit] STUFF'd Facts

[edit] mile

[edit] Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay (Talk) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second the comment. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second the comment Eric 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] The House That Gave Sucky Treats

[edit] Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0

Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0.

Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
- Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
- The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
- Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. -Svelt
Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dangeresque 3

[edit] So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay (Talk) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
  - Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay (Talk) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay (Talk) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
  - Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Experimental Film

[edit] The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second both the vote and the question. --Jay (Talk) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay (Talk) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      - Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sisters

[edit] Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. — It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
~~Neutral.~~ Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
    - I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
      - Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
        "Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --Upset_Your_Balance 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
- The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
  - I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
    - It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
      - Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      - Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Homestar Runner's Website

[edit] World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] 102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip ^T_C 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
- Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--Because, It's Midnite
Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. silverwing99 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
- Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.

Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay (Talk) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay (Talk) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
- Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master
  - Have a look at HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts. As for the fact, Accept as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. phlip ^T_C 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. --Tony Stony 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept, but not as GoofThis is actually worth noting, kinda. -- Lappy 486 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] «Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second - DECLAN-ATED! 82.43.178.225 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. -- tomstiff 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
Second. It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --SBEmail22 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
DeclineProbably not good material for a Fun Fact.
Revise When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song. Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason. This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?

[edit] You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jay (Talk) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House That Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jay (Talk) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --Jay (Talk) 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: It wasn't just a pause. He said, "What are you... um... doing..."
  - Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --Jay (Talk) 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. GG Crono 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --Big Dog 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Acceptinating the Countryside. I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
- Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes close, but does Strong Bad actually reference "car"? No, he does not. — It's dot com 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You said ACCEPTED again! --Iml91 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"? --Me
This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --Jay (Talk) 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. Donny vs Universe
  - Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --Jay (Talk) 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What are you, um... Declining? I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --Lappy 486 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
Accept Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....Because, It's Midnite

[edit] Oops, I STUFF'd it!

Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the system sounds quote pack.

Decline. Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. This is an obvious reference to the Decline above. -- tomstiff 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I think not sir. -- Tony Stony 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah decline
- You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain neutral on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --SBEmail22 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
Decline. Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted." Svelt 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline Sometimes people just say stuff. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005

[edit] Boring sound

The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in Teen Girl Squad Issue 3.

Decline. Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly not a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --BazookaJoe 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Vera low

The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.

Decline Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --Jay (Talk) 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. — It's dot com 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- tomstiff 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -- Tony Stony 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --BazookaJoe 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. Prezactly. phlip ^T_C 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sort of Accept Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
- It's Senor, but not Señor. --Jay (Talk) 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. Decline Donny vs Universes

[edit] little animal

[edit] Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip ^T_C 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jay (Talk) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jay (Talk) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept for Trivia. This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -Svelt

[edit] time capsule

[edit] The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Good eyes. -Svelt

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

VERDICT: The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Main Page 22. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CONTEST: I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective talk page. — It's dot com 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!

[edit] Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
- Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
  - What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jay (Talk) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
    - By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
      - Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
Revise and accept. Make it like this:

The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
- Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
Acceptalized. 82.43.178.225
Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
- Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
- Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
  - Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
Decline. This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — It's dot com 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accept. Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls. I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity. -Svelt

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second. -Svelt
  - Comment... But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -Kiwi 20:46, 16 Jun 2005

[edit] unused emails

[edit] CDs

This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
possible rewriteI get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. Donny vs Universe
Rewrite. This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's. No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -Svelt

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
- Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Massive Rewrite
The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip ^T_C 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Accept as rewritten. — It's dot com 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

Added by --217.12.147.14 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Decline. — It's dot com 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recently closed items

[edit] rock opera

[edit] Angled?

The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] guitar

[edit] That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:guitar. -- tomstiff 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kind of cool

[edit] Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:kind of cool. -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] privileges

[edit] Fretmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:privileges. -- tomstiff 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] flashback

[edit] Emails

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:flashback. -- tomstiff 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pom pom

[edit] hidden frame

For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:pom pom. — It's dot com 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] The Answering Room

Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:part-time job. — It's dot com 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:boring (really) -- tomstiff 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] old comics

[edit] Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:old comics. -- tomstiff 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] secret recipes

[edit] The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes. -- tomstiff 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheatday

[edit] Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheatday. -- tomstiff 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Times Halloween Funjob

[edit] 3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob. -- tomstiff 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] Eyes

Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. — It's dot com 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. -- tomstiff 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] long pants

[edit] No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

VERDICT: This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] monster truck

[edit] Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Reference?

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] anything

[edit] The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] do over

[edit] Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. — It's dot com 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

VERDICT: After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheat talk

[edit] To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

VERDICT: After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheat talk. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkomanual

[edit] Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company. (revised)

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkomanual. — It's dot com 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] labor day

[edit] Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug In Mouth Disease

[edit] Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 555-What?

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

VERDICT: This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comic

[edit] CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

VERDICT. Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to Talk:comic. — It's dot com 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] garage sale

[edit] Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme park

[edit] Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

VERDICT: Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:theme park. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] couch patch

[edit] Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

VERDICT: This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:couch patch. — It's dot com 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

[edit] Under Construction

[edit] Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Under Construction. — It's dot com 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rampage

[edit] rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. — It's dot com 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page 6

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

CLOSED. The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to Talk:Main Page 6. — It's dot com 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] best thing

[edit] Alternative vs. Hair Metal

Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success. (rewrite)

VERDICT: This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing. — It's dot com 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] origins

[edit] Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins. -- tomstiff 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

VERDICT: The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8. — It's dot com 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

CLOSED: This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on Homestar's House, which it already is. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

VERDICT: This item was accepted and moved. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Runner. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] animal

[edit] Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] virus

[edit] Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

VERDICT: This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

CLOSED. This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough. — It's dot com 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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+<div style="background:gold;border:1px #990 dashed;padding:12px"><center>'''This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are ''not'' active. Please see [[HRWiki:STUFF]] for active votes.'''</center></div>
-Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
+The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
 Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
+Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.
 Things that always make good fun facts:
 * References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
-* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
+* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
 * ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
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+[[Category:STUFF|Old STUFF]]
 == Voting ==
 New votes cast should generally be as follows:
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 * '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
 * '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
-* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
+* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
 * '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
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 **Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
-== Toons and E-mails ==
+== STUFF'd Facts ==
-===[[replacement]]===
+===[[mile]]===
-====Strong Mad sings====
-Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.
-*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Fourth Wall Break?====
-* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad".  Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Strong Bad made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.
-===[[spring cleaning]]===
+OR
-====DELETED!====
-The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.
-*'''Decline''' Uninteresting and I'd assume that most of Homestar Runner's viewers know a green or a blue background when they see it. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
+The Cheat made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.
-*'''Decline''' But your reason is not what I'm declining it for. I'm declining it because it belongs on the [[DELETED]] page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:59, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' I've noted this fact on the DELETED page. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-===[[rampage]]===
+*I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the [[Talk:mile|Talk]] page, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to '''accept''' this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
-====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
+*'''Accept''' I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.
+*'''Comment''' Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in [[anything]] it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second the comment.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second the comment''' [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+* Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''COMMENT.''' Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
+** '''Not neccesary'''. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
-*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-**'''Second.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept'''  I don't get it.  It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff.  I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both.  Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
-**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm.  It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
-*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*** While this is true.  I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump.  Clearly I am losing this vote.  (Although four to one is a pretty small sample.  I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.)  I really honestly believe it is a reference to both.  I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
-*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus".  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these.  It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift?  Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Wite Wrapper====
+====Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?====
-The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].
+Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
-* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Decline.''' I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Decline'''  Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Decline as written.''' But see revision below. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====English Lesson====
+'''REVISE TO:''' Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
-(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
+*'''Accept the revision.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept.''' I mean, he must ''really'' think that joke is funny. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/demo|new format]]''', which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- [[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]
+*'''Accept but revise''' I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
+**'''Sorcorndorned!''' (seconded) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Still Decline''' For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one ''refers'' to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
+*'''Accept.''' Much better. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[time capsule]]===
+===[[dangeresque 3]]===
-====Norse mythology====
+====So holdable a gun====
-The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
+The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.
-*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** '''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[pizzaz]]===
+*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-====Third Interview====
+*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would.  Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
+*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
-*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second.''' Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept''' Yeah, I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
-**'''Second''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**How about not?  Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews.  And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary.  '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
+====People's Court====
-====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
+As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The_People%27s_Court|The People's Court"]].
-When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.
+*'''Duh-duh Decline!''' I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
+*** Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --[[User:Freshmutt|FM]] 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme.  That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad.  I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song  --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** I got news for you  Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
+***Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own.  --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[Experimental Film]]===
-* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====The Water====
+The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.
-===[[i love you]]===
+*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Not Expecting====
+*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads)
+*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Decline with a comment.''' So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
-**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
+** '''Second''' both the vote and the question. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+** If they're not ''allowed'' to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*** I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And '''decline''' to this ridiculous fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+****I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*****'''Second''' to all these subcomments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Donnie Declineo''' Sorry. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*My mouth tastes like... '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
+===[[sisters]]===
-**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Love/Hate Relationship====
-*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
+"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
-** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
+**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
-** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
+**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
+****I'll be there! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
+*****Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I ''know'' she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' clich&eacute;. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
+******"Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
+*'''Decline'''Not because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***'''Second''' Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+***I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*** I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**** It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen [[gimmicks]], which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to [[gimmicks]]. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*****Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*****Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-===[[date]]===
+===[[Homestar Runner's Website]]===
-====Ren & Stimpy XR====
-The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
-*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
-*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
-=== [[the show]] ===
+====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====
-====Homestar's "Arms"====
-Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
-*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms?  --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**[[time capsule]] is another example. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention).  Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe.  Definitely a keeper.
-**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun?  This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page.  The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result.  It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms.  Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[suntan]] ===
+Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".
-====Marzipan's Parasol====
-Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal.
-Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .
-*'''Decline.''' I guess some people have never seen actual people-sized paper parasols. Marzipan's is not a drink parasol, it's an Asian-style paper one! <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 19:45, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' Man, what a dumblecake. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' I'm a dumblecake too then.  I didn't realize just *how* similar a drink parasol resembles a real parasol till I looked up the two right now.  An honest mistake on whoever's part, no need for insults.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***You're <i>insulted</i> by the term "dumblecake?" [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:30, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' The first part doesn't matter, and the second part doesn't make sense, or have anything to so with the first part! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:05, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[local news]] ===
+*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Scalawag====
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
+*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
+**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
+**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
+***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
-*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<sub><tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt></sub>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[brianrietta]] ===
+===[[boring (really)]]===
-==== "Tough Guys"? ====
+====102 Exclamations====
-This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
+There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
-*'''Revise''':  This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary.  After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants.  If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum.  Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript.  I think that  the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
+*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not?  But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second''' but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
-**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
-**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is).  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
+*'''Decline'''  Yeah.  Its true.  However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to.  I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Weak Accept.''' 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Comment''' Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed?  Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case.  And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon.  People might be curious. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
+*'''Accept.''' I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second''' Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
-*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept''' Why not? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT''' I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
+*'''Universal Decline''' This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
+*'''Accept!! >:(''' There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+** They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
-**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
+====Are these really goofs? part 1====
-====Hom Sar Ref====
+You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
-On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]
+*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
+**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit*''' Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.
-*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+====Are these really goofs? part 2====
-*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
+The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
-*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
+<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
-*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
+*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
+**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<sub><tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt></sub>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept''' Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
-*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
-*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says.  I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
+***Have a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. As for the fact, '''Accept''' as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
-*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
-*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
-*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Lil John====
+====Are these really goofs? part 3====
-On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.
+If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
+*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept, but not as Goof'''This is actually worth noting, kinda. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
+====&#171;Insert hilarious joke here&#187;====
-**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
+The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.
-**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind,  however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
-**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions.  Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with.  I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
-*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike>  Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-====Trial Game origin====
+* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her"  the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
+*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline'''Probably not good material for a Fun Fact.
+*'''Revise''' When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song.  Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason.  This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation.  If not, why?
-The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.
+====You said doyng again!====
+Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
+*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing&mdash;but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be.  I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do.  Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I <i>thought</i> he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
+*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
+**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''You said ACCEPTED again!''' --[[User:Iml91|Iml91]] 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"?''' --[[User:Poopsmith Z|Me]]
+* This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*** Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''What are you, um... Declining?''' I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
+*'''Accept''' Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
-*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
+====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
-** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
+Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].
-*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====False Advertising====
+*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' This is an obvious reference to the '''Decline''' above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I think ''not'' sir. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah '''decline'''
+**You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain '''neutral''' on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline.''' Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted."  [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' Sometimes people just say stuff. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
-The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted.  This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.
+====Boring sound====
+The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
-*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
+*'''Decline.''' Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly ''not'' a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Second.''' Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
+* Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
-*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
-*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
-*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
-====Special Appearance====
+===[[Senorial Day]]===
-Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
+====Vera low====
+The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.
+*'''Decline''' Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second'''. Prezactly. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Sort of Accept''' Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
+** It's Senor, but not Se&ntilde;or. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
-''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
+===[[little animal]]===
+====Used once more====
+The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
+*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun."  This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept''' for '''Trivia.'''  This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====
+===[[time capsule]]===
+====The Life Saving Turtle====
+The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].
-For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.
+*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.'''  Good eyes.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
+===[[Main Page 22]]===
-* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around.  Keep it.  [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
+====ALL WRONG.......====
-*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it.  It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.
-**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====
+'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].
+'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
+===[[HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
-**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Unaired Episodes!====
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+"teenage girl show!
-* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
+Revamped for the 90's.
-**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation.  Why bother?  Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon.  Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+More humor! Finer dining!
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"
-*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory.  When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is.  There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-====Tall homestar?====
+I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
-In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!
+*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense.  I think it's a good find.  And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
+**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
+*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
+****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
+*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
+*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
+<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
+well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
+was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
+including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
+I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
-*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline.'''  Homestar's two feet fell into the trap.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection.  The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept.'''  It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes.  I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
+*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
-*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
-**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
-*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
+*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
+**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
+**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+***'''Second (the decline).'''  If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s!  See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection.  It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
+*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
+*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Accept.'''  Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls.  I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-====Updated for the 90's====
+=== [[The Luau]] ===
-Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.
+==== Unexpected guests? ====
-*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
+In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
+*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
+*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
+**'''Second.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+***'''Comment...''' But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 20:46, 16 Jun 2005
-**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
+===[[unused emails]]===
-====Sweating====
+====CDs====
-Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.
+This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
-*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
+*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
+*'''possible rewrite'''I get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
+*'''Rewrite.''' This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's.  No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
-*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept.'''  Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating.  It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
-**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
-*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal
-===[[long pants]]===
+===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
-====X-Pensive Winos====
-The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.
-*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Different Colors====
+The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.
-*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
+**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
+====Tiny eye difference====
-"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.
+The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
+*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
+**'''Accept as rewritten.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns).  Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Liekand's magic pockets====
-*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
-*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
-*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
-*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Overlapped voice====
+*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.
+*'''Decline.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+<br />
-====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
+== Recently closed items ==
-They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway.  He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+=== [[rock opera]] ===
+====Angled?====
+The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.
-====Shorter E-mail====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Error?====
-====Edga Jr. removes text?====
+On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
-Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
-*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs).  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen.  Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
-*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing.  I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed?  In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it.  It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
+===[[guitar]]===
-When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.
+====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
+Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
-*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:guitar]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
-*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-====Klowning Arkound====
+=== [[kind of cool]] ===
-The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.
+====Homestar's Singing====
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
-====Self-Made Man====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:kind of cool]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[privileges]]===
-====2nd Homestar Crying====
+====Fretmagic Kids!====
-This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].
+"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:privileges]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Red Screen====
+===[[flashback]]===
-When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Emails====
+How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
-====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[pom pom]]===
+====hidden frame====
+For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
-====Clanky?====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:pom pom]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[part-time job]]===
+====The Answering Room====
+Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.
-====Sam I Am====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:part-time job]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
-'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[boring (really)]]===
+====Definitely not the hat, though====
+One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
-====Bedroom Window====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*<b>Revise = Very Yes.</b> Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**It wasn't a run-on, but I still <b>Decline</b>. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**It <i>totally</i> was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
-**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
- Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in<br>the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
-*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
-**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: <i>I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV.</i> There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
-*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
-***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
-***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Breaking the Lappy====
+===[[old comics]]===
-Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
+====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
-*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy&mdash;Strong Bad was making that up. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
-*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[Main Page 6]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Outta Sync?====
-Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
-*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
+=== [[secret recipes]] ===
-*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
-*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
-**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[crazy cartoon]]===
+====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
-====Sealab 2021====
-"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
-===[[Old Characters Page]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====The H word====
-Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[cheatday]]===
+====Get outta here kid?====
+Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
-===[[techno]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.
-*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
+===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
-*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on.  The 'Jalepe&ntilde;o' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
-**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
-**'''Second''' Jalepe&ntilde;o is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-** I think this is what is meant as well.  After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?"  Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalape&ntilde;o" does <EM>not</EM> in fact have a silent J.  The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
-*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
-*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-===[[Experimental Film]]===
+====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
-====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
+The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
-In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-===[[the bet]]===
+===[[Senorial Day]]===
-====Forgotten Lie====
+====Old Gron Sad voice?====
-Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
+Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
-*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
-===[[pom pom]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Bubs...greedy?====
-When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
+The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
-===[[website]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Mahir Cagri reference====
-Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Lurking around====
+Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
-===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
-In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Senor Shrub====
+The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
-====Hello, Viewers!====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.
-'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
+Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
-===[[different town]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Beastie Boys====
-"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
-'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Oh, what a feeling====
+The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
-===[[little questions]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
-The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of <i>Monty Python's Holy Grail</i>.
-'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[time capsule]]===
+====Eyes====
+Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
-===[[crying]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Crying like we've done before====
-This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
-'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Isle of Pom?====
+The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
-====All y'alls====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
-'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[long pants]]===
+====No "la dee la dee la"?====
+Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Old New Intro|Intro]].
-===[[New Intro]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined.  Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Edga Jr. removes text?====
+Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
-===[[2 emails]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Ladies' Choice Awards====
-"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.
-'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[monster truck]]===
+====Get Back Loretta!====
+The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."
-===[[That A Ghost]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
-This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
-*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
-*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
-**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Cory====
+=== [[The Luau]] ===
-The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
+==== Reference? ====
-*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[dreamail]]===
+In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".
-====those weird little kids====
-It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[old comics]] ===
+=== [[anything]] ===
-====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
-Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47".  Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4.  Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====
-====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
+"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
-The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-=== [[best thing]] ===
+=== [[do over]] ===
-==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
-Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.
-*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Tandy 400 Goofs====
+When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
-==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].
-*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Totally not gettin' old?====
-**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.
-==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."
-*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what?  "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====George W. Stnank====
-**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
-==== Rudiments ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.
-*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."  Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Stnank or Not?====
-*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005
-====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
+Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
-It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s>  [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below.  [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted.  It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page.  Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Cancelled after first episode====
+====A Type of Bad Grammar====
-There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
+This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.
-:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
-:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
-:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
-:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
-:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
-Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Space Gary & Facegary====
+====Grammatically Incorrect====
-"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 <i>Facegary</i>].
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes.  "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right".  Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
-==== Parappa the Noodle ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[cheat talk]]===
-====They Might Be Giants reference?====
+===To "T" or not to "T"===
-Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.
-====Flash MX====
+'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[Stinkomanual]]===
-==== A DV-what? ====
+====Saargtsson Ltd.====
-From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item.  It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page.  Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company. ''(revised)''
-==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkomanual]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
-*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise'''  a bit too wordy...  perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s.  This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with.  Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== The Claw ====
+===[[labor day]]===
-One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting.  It appears on the [[best thing]] page.  Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====
-==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
+In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.
-With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
-:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
-:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
-:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
-::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
-:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== See you in syndication ====
+===[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]===
-Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.
+====Music by TMBG?====
+The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== The Beatles ====
+====555-What?====
-The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)
-==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1.  Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+===[[comic]]===
+====CORRECTIONED====
+the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
+'''VERDICT.''' Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:comic]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== Background Goof ====
+===[[garage sale]]===
-When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.
-*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
+====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====
-*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** '''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that.  This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== Babylon 5 ====
+Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.
-"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].'''  (only the part in bold is in question)
-*'''Accept:''' Baby<u>lon 5</u> is similar enough to Groupu<u>lon 5</u>, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
-**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
-*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
-=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
+===[[theme park]]===
-==== Marshie's Initial ====
-His first initial is 'M'.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
+====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
+'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor:  Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003).  In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show).  While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].
-=== [[colonization]] ===
+'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
-==== Until next week... ====
-This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
-*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius.  [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail.  I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-=== [[dragon]] ===
+'''VERDICT:''' Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
-The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
-*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-=== [[rock opera]] ===
+===[[couch patch]]===
-==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
-"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
-*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
-*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
-*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless
-==== Sender's parents ====
+====Computer miscommunications====
-Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
+At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)
-* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:couch patch]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
-* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself.  Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline'''  Too much of a stretch, IMO.  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
-*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
+===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
-The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
+====A legendary voice, you screech?====
-*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
+The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.
-*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== Order? ====
+'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
-Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting.  It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate).  The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
+===[[Under Construction]]===
+====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
+-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
-==== Another brick in the wall ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Under Construction]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
+===[[rampage]]===
-**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
-**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
+====rampage easter egg====
-In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.
+At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
-'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
+===[[Main Page 6]]===
-*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
+====Outta Sync?====
-**'''Second'd''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
+Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
-** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon,  ''' '' PLEASE  '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
-***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact.  That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
-===[[secret recipes]]===
+'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
-Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
-*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
-**'''Comment''' If he <EM>always</EM> pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"?  Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
-**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
+===[[best thing]]===
-Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.
-*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
+==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
-** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
+Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
-** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
+''(rewrite)''
-*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
-****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
-*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
-******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-==== The Brethren ====
-This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.
-*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
-**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all.  If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon.  This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]
-=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
-==== Coincedincem ====
-According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.
-*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
-***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
-****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!
-=== [[other days]] ===
-==== Tappity Tappity ====
-When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.
-* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.'''  Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
-*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
-*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-**'''Second.'''  At best, this should be called a goof.  However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe.  I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
-The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.
-*'''Decline.'''  Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general.  --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[radio]] ===
-====German Radio? ====
-Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.
-*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
-**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''  It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio."  For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages.  Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless
-====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
-Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting.  It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
-====Location====
-Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
-*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
-*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
-*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K".  [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
-*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge.  However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
-*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
-*'''Accept''' I never knew that.  I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
-*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
-*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
-**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
-** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
-*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-====WSBD in Ohio====
-There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.
-*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline'''  This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format.  Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)   A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters.  It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
-*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
 ===[[origins]]===
-====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
-Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted.  It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
 ====Cut the Crusts====
 In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
-*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
-*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-====Se&ntilde;or & Mr.Bland====
-Se&ntilde;or & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.
-*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
-*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
-===[[funny]]===
-====409====
-is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted.  Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
-====Poopsmith====
-The Poopsmith never blinks.
-*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
-**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
-***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.
-====Wall Markings====
-According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.
-*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
-*'''accept.''' Good fact... &rarr;[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
-*'''Accept.''' I never noticed.  Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
-**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
-*'''Rewrite and move.'''  Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall.  Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
-**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless
-==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
-The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
-*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
-*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
-*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
-**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
-***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
-**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
-*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
-==== Buck Privates ====
-The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.
-*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
-**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
-==== Starbucks ====
-Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks.  However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.
-*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
-*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
-**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless
 ===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
-====The Intercom====
+====Who's that Drummond? Redux====
-The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
+"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
-*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-====Soofa Group?====
+'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
-*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Truk====
-In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk."  Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples.  Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
-*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R.  It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
-**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
-*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
-At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
-====Fender Guitars====
-During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.
-*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
-*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts.  Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
-* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
-====College Radio====
-What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.
-'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted.  However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page.  It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
-==== Back Buttons ====
-The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
-*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason.  Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
-=== [[island]] ===
-==== Forward referencing # 1 ====
-Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]].  This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].
-*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
-*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
-*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
-*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
-*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
-The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].
-*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
-**Second that.
-**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
-**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
-**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
-*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[2 years]] ===
-==== Mormon Missionary ====
-E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted.  It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
-According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].
-* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
-**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
-====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
-The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics.  It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh.  It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within.  It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked.  Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...
-*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did.  The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here.  The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable.  At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
-*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
-** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** So?  In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
 === [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
-==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
-The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is  about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
-Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...
-*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
-**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
-*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
-*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
 ==== Homestar's Clock ====
 It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
-*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock.  Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
-*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
-**You know alot about clocks.
-*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
-*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
-**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
-*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
-*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
-==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
-Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].
-*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-==== Slippers ====
-*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].
-*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact.  --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-*'''Accept'''  Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable.  And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
-==== Blade man ====
-The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].
-*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
-**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
-*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
 ==== Charlie Brown ====
 The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.
-*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
+'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above.  Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant.  However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
-**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-==== Wizard of Oz ====
-Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.
-*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring?  This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley.  It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
-***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference.  And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
-***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
-****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
-==== Beat It ====
-Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.
-*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video."  Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
-** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
-I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard.  After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way.  --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
-==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
-[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.
-* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
-** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
-* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
-**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
-**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
-*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
-*'''Accept'''  This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-==== Coach Z's Phone ====
-Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].
-*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
-*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
-*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
-**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement.  Do not say "similar" or "reference"!
-==== It's odd considering... ====
-It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.
-*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
-*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
-**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
-**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
-**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
-*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
-**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
-**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
-*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd.  Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes.  Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important?  Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
-*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
-*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
-**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
-*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
-**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left?  He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon.  It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it.  Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
-*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
 ==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
 Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
-*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
-*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
-*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen.  We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations.  In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-==== "state trooper" ====
-Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas.  The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]]  Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)
-(Correction:  I made a mistake.  The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)
-''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM
-*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]]  Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
-**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
-**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
-**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
-***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
-*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
-*<b> Decline </b> Janik
-*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
 ==== A running gag? ====
 The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
-* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here.  I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
-* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
-* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
-* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
-**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
-* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
-* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!?  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
 === [[animal]] ===
@@ Line 1,340: / Line 759: @@
 The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
-*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
-**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing.  See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== Off-screen typing ====
-Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.
-*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
-**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time.  I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago.  I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
-***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
-<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
-Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
-on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
-:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
-**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
-*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
-When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly.  I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.
-*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
-*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', <u>'''''unless'''''</u> you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
-**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from.  Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
 ==== Fanglyfish ====
 The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
-*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 === [[virus]] ===
-====Real virus?====
-Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.
-*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one.  The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard.  Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
-*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-==== The Number 423,827 ====
-I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.
-'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
-** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
-**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
 ==== Drive letter ====
-After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
+After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.
-*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
-*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
 ====The Compy's Reign====
 This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
-*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
-*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
+'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-====Blue Laser Babies====
-The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
-*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
-The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
-*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
-All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.
-*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
-*'''Very Weak Decline'''  Dunno what to make of this one, really...  It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air.  Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts.  Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this.  It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots.  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
-*'''Actual Decline.''' All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[car]] ===
-==== "You ever see me in a car?  No!" ====
-Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car?  No!"  Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
-'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined.  Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[lackey]]===
-==== Unemployed? ====
-In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).
-*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated.  Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises.  Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot.  In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
-* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here.  Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then.  We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable.  (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.)  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
-**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
-=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
-==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====
-The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]].  In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.
-'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
-==== Meh ====
-"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.
-'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined.  Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Strong Bad's Lament?====
-History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.
-*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
-*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
-*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
-*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
-Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
---[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included.  And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?"  That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible.  It just doesn't make any sense.  Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said."  But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Second.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-==Games==
 ===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
-====Control Scheme====
-The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the  Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
-*'''Decline'''.  This has got to be a joke.  Poor control scheme?  Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons.  Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right.  Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad.  I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it.  -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
-*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Second and a comment'''.  Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P  Hehe, oh well. :)  -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
-*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
-Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
-*'''Decline'''.  The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games.  Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
-**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1...  And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
-*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Stoves====
-Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.
-*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**'''Comment'''  20x6 could also be 20106.  Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
-***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106.  I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
 ====More Levels====
 When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".
-*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
+'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
-*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Stone Fist====
-When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!
-*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
-*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-**Well that depends.  If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
-*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Engrish====
-The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.
-*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Brody====
-Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.
-*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-====Tampo====
-The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.
-*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
-** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases.  And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline.  Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
-===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
-====Wagon Wheel====
-This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
-*'''Accept.'''  I suppose that's interesting.  --67.161.224.65
-*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
-** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
-*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
-*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
-*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
-**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
-*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
-== General ==
-=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
-==== Parents ====
-When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
-* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
-* '''Revise, Accept.'''  Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
-** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
-*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted.  Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)