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*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What?  Pikmin?  Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' What?  Pikmin?  Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
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*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
==== Finding Nemo ====
==== Finding Nemo ====

Revision as of 17:53, 12 December 2004

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HRWiki:STUFF
The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

animal

Pikmin thing?

the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

  • Note: I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played Pikmin and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --Shadow Hog 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--O&U
  • Decline There's some similarity, but I doubt it. --MadEwokHerd 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

Finding Nemo

Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

  • Decline. Anglerfish are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --Upsilon
  • Revise & Accept change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an Anglerfish" and this could be ok! --Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.
  • accept MetaStar Hmm, I first mentioned this on the Deep Sea Fangly Fish page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
    • Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --Upsilon
  • Delete This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page Vannav
  • Decline Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.

Second Wall Breaking

This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

  • Decline. I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline.' I made a new Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. --Vannav
  • Decline A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --oddtodd
  • Decline It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --tender branson
  • Decline. Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --Upsilon
  • Decline The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Soolnd

The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

LCD Screen

When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

Ridiculous

The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

  • Decline With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --Vannav
    • Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --Upsilon
    • What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Whole-hearted second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second^243. Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard NEW not NO. --RPharazon
    • Second. -- Kamek
      • Second. Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- Mithent 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is a no no. --The Real Zajac 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

Christmas Lights

The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.

  • Accept Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
    • Second Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --fatpie
      • That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --Upsilon
    • Please sign with --~~~; it's really easy. --oddtodd
  • Decline Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --oddtodd
  • Rewrite. I suggest:
Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].
...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --Upsilon
    • I gotta Second this one. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Uh, what exactly are you seconding? Mister Mister 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
        • Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --Jay 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- Mithent 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. -- Kamek
    • Second. -- sterrence
    • Second. -- Rainer
  • Decline Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. SailorHippyGirl
    • I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --Upsilon
  • Decline. We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Tiggera 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --LynkStarr 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Subject Line, etc.

This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for weird dream.

  • Decline Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. mail) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --oddtodd

Lappy Startup Screen

The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of Mac OS 8. --codeman38 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

  • Decline. This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- RPharazon
  • Rewrite. If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --oddtodd
  • Shorten and Rewrite. Same as above. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Segmented Eyes

"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

These Speculations

"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

  • Neutral. I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --Nerdular Nerdence 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --oddtodd
    • Second --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. This is perfectly reasonable. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --Tim333

The Price is Right... Again

The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show The Price Is Right.

  • Decline Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --Jay 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.
Thoughts? --oddtodd 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --Anonymous 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Rewrite. This is clearly a reference to The Show. --The Real Zajac 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --Upsilon
  • Second for Rewrite. Definitely refers to "the show." TBC often has Strongbad randomly host toons. See SB's commentary on The King of Town DVD and his announcing in monster truck. An example rewrite would be:
    • Strong Bad's gameshow-style descriptions of the Lappy and the easter-egg Anglerfish refer to The Show. --Svelt
      • I reiterate: not true. Although this type of description is frequent in gameshows and the setting is taken directly from The Show, the description itself is never seen on the show. --Upsilon

Speculations, Again

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

  • Decline Stretch...huge stretch --ninja pirate 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second --Tiggera 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --oddtodd 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --Tim333 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline. Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --Upsilon
    • Second. Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --Svelt

Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

Weird laptop

After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

  • Weak decline. This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on Lappy 486, I'll concede. --Upsilon

virus

Bubs' Broken JPEG

Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the Thnikkaman sign taped on his shirt in monument. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

  • Modify, accept. I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --Upsilon

Pre-computer-destruction sound

The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the Compy 386 is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before Strong Bad's Tandy 400 explodes in gimmicks. Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for Lappy 486 to bite the dust?

  • Accept. Quite interesting. --Tuquee 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for Lappy 486 to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --Tiggera 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)

Strong Sad's face

Strong Sad's face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as livejournal.com. He uses these kinds of icons on his Strong Sad's Lament page.

  • Decline. Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --TheNintenGenius 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. Once and Only Once issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --The Paper
  • Accept. I didn't notice this. - Rainer
    • On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. ~Hobo|talk
  • Decline. Blatently obvious. - J to the Sag
    • Second. Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --RPharazon
  • Rewrite. I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].

Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --oddtodd

One flash file

The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

  • Modify and keep. This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep -- Asploder
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Dito. →FireBird
  • Modify and accept. I think it should be changed to note that this is the only email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --sterrence
    • Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --Upsilon

Quadratic formula

The quadratic formula is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

  • Delete. Not meaningful, fairly obvious unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Interesting. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. See Tom's note on it. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Too obvious. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep- Not many peple know that --Asploder
    • Second --Aawy 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --Jay 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --sterrence
  • Delete. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Delete. This isn't fun at all. →FireBird
  • Decline. Neither fun nor obscure. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - Rainer
    • Second. On grounds of irrelevance. --The Paper 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
    • Please, please sign! Use --~~~~ - it shows up like: --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Mocify and Accept. Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. --Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)

Pi

The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an irrational number, so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

  • Modify and keep. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete Way too obvious. --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - Rainer
  • Accept. I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - J to the Sag
  • Accept. Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --Upsilon
    • Second. Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --oddtodd 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Modify and Accept. I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --racerx_is_alive 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --Aawy 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Oh, a wise guy, eh?

Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the Three Stooges, where Curly uses the very same phrase often.

  • Delete. I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -Miss Free Country USA
    • Second. This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Delete. This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Keep. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. No evidence it's a reference. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. I don't think it's a reference. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Classic Three Stooges line. →FireBird
    • Second. Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --Mogul 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
    • Second Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --racerx_is_alive 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think it is interesting enough. - Rainer
    • Second. Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --The Paper 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a fact. This is speculation. --The Real Zajac 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

3D Bubs legs

When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "stunt double", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

  • Delete. Doubtful. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Eh. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify but keep. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but maybe Modify. See previous anonymous vote. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete- Vaguely 3D???? --Asploder
  • Decline. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, accept. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Modify, Keep. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →FireBird
  • Modify, keep Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - Rainer
  • Accept. "stunt double" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --The Real Zajac 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

Breaking the fourth wall

This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "flashback" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "for kids" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "the process" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "huttah!", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "extra plug" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

  • Trim and redirect. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Modify, keep This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Good point DG. - Rainer
    • Second. If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - tender branson
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --RPharazon
  • Delete I've made a Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --Vannav

Compy 386 on e-mail menu

When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

  • Modify. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Hold until tomorrow. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Delete (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --Jay 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. Not fun. - Rainer
  • Move. It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --oddtodd 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after animal was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --The Real Zajac 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

Compy 386?? (page title)

The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

  • Keep. I think it's worthy enough to note. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. This one's okay. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Worth mentioning. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
    • The point is it's not any more notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. →FireBird
  • Decline. It's obvious and not exactly fun. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. - Rainer
  • Decline. Different headers are noted on the Strong Bad Email page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Extremely obvious. --gwr2004
  • DELETED.-- OK, I'm Kevin {trimmed - that was just awkward --Upsilon}

Homsar's walking sound

The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "for kids".

  • Delete. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but Modify. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but Modify. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Revise. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. Chop off "for kids" part. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, accept. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →FireBird
  • Delete. Heaps of sounds have been reused. - Rainer
  • Delete. Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --gwr2004
  • Modify, accept (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --oddtodd 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- I'm tired of brackets!

Edgar's anachronism

Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

  • Keep. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good. --TheNintenGenius 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Delete. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --TheNintenGenius 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep, because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete, this is incorrect. Wikipedia lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
  • Decline. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite, accept. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Modify and keep As per kef's comment. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Interesting. - Rainer
  • Proposed Revision: Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. FireLily
  • Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC intentionally selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --83.88.139.108 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Email number

The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

  • Decline. Highly dubious. --Upsilon
    • Second. I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --RPharazon
    • Second. Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- Rebochan 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Not faintly plausible. -- Mithent 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. What?! --gwr2004
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - SailorHippyGirl
    • Second. I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --oddtodd 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

little animal

sdrawkcab

The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

  • Delete. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --Jay 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --Paliosun 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? Acorn 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →FireBird
  • Delete. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --TheNintenGenius 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote decline): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --Jay 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
      • It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Decline. It's just a trick of the eye. --The Real Zajac 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --Upsilon

Shopping for Danger

Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends

The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

  • Decline. Just a coincidence, maybe less.--Tiggera 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --oddtodd 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Maybe this is true. --The Real Zajac 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --Svelt

Reynold and Ghostbusters

Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to Ghostbusters II.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Keep Only if we can see why. →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep -- Asploder
  • Modify, Accept — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --Svelt
  • Decline. - Rainer

Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED)

'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or Cheat Commandos...O's.

VERDICT: Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc.

This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides The King of Town DVD that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline So what? →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --Asploder
    • Second. The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --Svelt
  • Decline. That's not very special. - Rainer

Speaker sound (DECLINED)

The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail theme park.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Halloween Fairstival

Page title

The page title is a reference to Malloween Commercial.

  • Accept/Rewrite: How is this a reference?-Fuzzy
  • Accept: This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --Ogog
  • Decline. It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Revise. It needs to clearly state that it is quoting Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

Shin guards (DECLINED)

Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to Talk:Halloween Fairstival. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Dripping towel noise

The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from Main Page 14.

  • Accept: These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-Fuzzy
  • Decline. Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - Rainer

Locka-room

The "locka-room" may be a reference to Teen Girl Squad, wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

  • Decline: This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-Fuzzy
  • Decline: It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --Ogog
  • Decline. Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I wouldn't call it a reference. - Rainer
  • Accept. It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in big white face and Blue Las-Alert. -My name is too long
  • Decline. This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --Tim333
  • Decline. - SailorHippyGirl

Blue Star Ointment

Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show The Price is Right.

  • Accept/Rewrite: Where does TPIR come in to this?-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Accept. Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Accept/Rewrite: I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - Rebochan 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Old man remedies

"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in Shopping for Danger.

Breath-holding skill

Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the yearbook characters page.

  • Decline: ehh...-Fuzzy
  • Decline: I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
  • Decline. This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. It is too trivial. - Rainer

Philly Cheat Steak

"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

  • Decline: Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-Fuzzy
  • Accept: I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
  • Accept. I think it's good enough to note. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline That's uber-obvious. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - Rainer
  • Modify, accept I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) MetaStar
  • Accept. I didn't know this! -Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept: I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - Rebochan 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - J to the sag

KoT and SBemail

When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

  • Decline: Again almost anyone could figure this out-Fuzzy
  • Decline. You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept I think it's an interesting idea. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. That's the joke. - Rainer
  • Decline. I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - J to the Sag
  • Move. This should be inserted into the transcript. --The Real Zajac 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

Humminama What?

When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

Creeping Death

The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

  • Accept/Rewrite: I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see Carol). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --Svelt
  • Decline - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer

WEAR FLIP FLOPS.

In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "WEAR A BIKINI!" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

  • Decline: This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Decline. I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --The Real Zajac 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

All white stuff on his face

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.

Strong Mad's laugh

Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in helium. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

  • Decline: So, they changed his laugh. -Fuzzy
  • Decline. Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. OK. - Rainer
  • Decline. It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Abstain/Explanation: Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - Rebochan 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

"I blew it, man... I lose my touch."

(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

  • Accept. I didn't know that. -- Mithent 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify and Keep. I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Broken Compy Menu

Large Blank Space

If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

  • Decline: Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -Nerdular Nerdence
    • Second. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →FireBird
    • Second.. No one cares. -- Mithent 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second.. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Fifth. Or Second. See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Minute/60. --Upsilon
    • Second. --gwr2004
    • Decline. If I am right, it is a simple database mistake. hardly really noting.--J to the sag
  • Decline This is not a very "fun" fact, besides, other email menus on the site had the same thing. --The Real Zajac 22:44, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

Theme Song Video

Drink Me?

in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

  • Decline. Obvious. --gwr2004
  • Decline. Why is this one even being voted on? --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- Mithent 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - Rebochan 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Move. This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --The Real Zajac 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD

The Subliminal Advertisement

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

  • Decline. That's the joke. --Upsilon
  • Decline. I think this is noted in the transcript. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. It's obvious to me, and probably most of the Internet-accessing English-speaking world. --oddtodd 00:55, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. If they "are clearly made" as you say they are then there is no need to point it out. --mikeaitch 14:08, 1 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • Decline. as the rule says "if it is obvious vote on it, if it is THAT obvious, delort it.--J to the sag
      • Second. It's... clearly so, yes, that's the idea. -- Mithent 13:41, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • I deleted this. I don't think anyone minds. --Tim333
  • That's not the subliminal advertising! This is: ScoreXZone And Duh, they look like a skull and cross bones! Furthermore... DECLINED-- Bonkava!

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The Old Man Fishin'

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from Peasant's Quest

  • Decline. Already mentioned in the button description. -- Kamek

anything

Dan VS. Jerome

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

  • Delete. Already mentioned in the transcript. -- Kamek
  • Accept. Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- ED!smilde 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
  • Very Much Accept It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: Homestar: Well, Jerome {even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}. --Jay 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --Upsilon
      • What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --Jay 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Soda Physics

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

  • Delete. Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- Kamek

personal favorites

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the Tandy 400 and the introduction of the Compy 386. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in invisibility and his interminable crying at the end of virus.

  • Rewrite. --Suicune64
  • Accept. That is interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --Upsilon

General

Trust

In both the The King of Town DVD and the Search for the Yellow Dello commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.

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