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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.
 
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*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
 
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
 
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*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
 
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**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
 
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***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
 
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
 
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*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
 
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*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
 
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*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
 
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*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
 
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**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
 
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**'''Second.''' I do.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
 
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***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
 
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*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
 
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Revision as of 01:09, 31 December 2004

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HRWiki:STUFF
The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

time capsule

The hole in 20X6 is from 2 years.

  • Decline. I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. DG 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)

Pick the Brain

The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --No Parking 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST) (Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

huttah!

Title

The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

  • decline Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. Anyone who thought someone wouldn't figure this out needs their brain examined. --super orange!
  • Neutral. I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --Lyzz
  • Decline. "This email is called old comics because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called the facts because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called flag day because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --Upsilon

Homestar Presents: Presents

Marzipan a Vegetarian?

Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.

  • decline- We all know marzipan is a vegetarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here? (sorry for not signing, my first time,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline. It is a saying that has nothing to do with literally cooking goose. -Clever Ben

Aught Four Crap

Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.

  • decline This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics" it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four" this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said. dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • second Apologies, I had never heard "aught-four" before in my life (or aught-anything, for that matter) and thought it had been invented by Strong Bad on the spur of the moment. Go ahead and delete it if it's not considered a reference to the e-mail. --Sokko
  • Accept. Although it is an accepted term, it's very rarely used (and isn't technically correct). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Revise - I've never heard "aught four" before, and if Strong Bad says it somewhere else then it is, as far as I'm concerned, a good enough reason to include. tompagenet 14:17, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • decline It's just another way of saying '04; it didn't originate on this site nor is it a specific reference to anything else. If he'd said "oh-four," this wouldn't even be an issue. --FortyTwo 14:42, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • But he didn't say "oh four", he said "aught four", which is actually pretty archaic and extremely uncommon. It's no coincidence that it was also said by Strong Bad in old comics. --Upsilon
  • Decline - I though Aught Four was Naught Four without the N. -- Rainer

Broken phone

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, Salad Fingers Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for rusty metal, this might be intentional.

  • Decline. I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --Chrysaor
  • Decline. Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- Mithent 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --BegyLips
  • Decline. It's more than likely a reference to replacement rather than salad fingers. -- super orange!
    • But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
      • Because it implies poor quality? --Upsilon
      • Because it's in a box of useless stuff that Bubs didn't manage to sell. No one is going to buy a rusty steak knife, or electrical tape, or a banana with a toy arrow stabbed through the center. -- Nevrmore
  • Decline. Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.

Has what it takes

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

  • Decline. Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --Chrysaor
    • Second. --Lyzz
    • Second. Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --MadEwokHerd 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second-Clever Ben
  • Decline Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --super orange!
  • Decline This just sounds like the way he talks. That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--clhinton

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

"Oh cwap" vs "I say.."

Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to The King Of Town DVD, when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."

  • Uber-decline That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. super orange! the lone/first voter!
    • D'oh! Well the connection positively jumped out at me and smacked me in the face--I think of it every time I see it. socetew

It's odd considering...

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

  • Decline, if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Accept, Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--James]] (I'm not logged in)
    • Second, I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. Xhycho
    • Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Revise and Accept as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second.--Lyzz~
    • Second. It is notable. -- Mithent 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline or Revise. We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's Homestar. He needs no excuse to be confused. --FortyTwo 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)

Garfield X-mas

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the Garfield Christmas Special, in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

  • I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials before. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --Svelt
  • That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
    • Second. --thatkidsam strikes again!
      • This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --Svelt
  • Decline - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — sninky-chan 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
    • Second. Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- Mithent 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --Jay 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
    • Second tompagenet 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. --68.196.82.110 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --Jay 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Decline. For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --FortyTwo 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)

Alms for the Pudgy

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

  • Decline. The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- FortyTwo 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)

1 on 1

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In Pumpkin Carve-nival, it was really Strong Bad, and in army he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - super orange

Electrical Tape?

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

  • Decline. That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - Rebochan 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone is a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor

Candy Cane

The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the Decemberween In July menu.

  • Decline. The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including 'SBemail Xmas Menu' and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in this toon and a previous one. --The Paper
  • Decline. More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?" --Chrysaor

"state trooper"

Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song Straight Shooter by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." Terra Rising Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "I'm a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "Hi, Wonder Mike" in his characters video.) Terra Rising Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

  • Decline-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. PaxMan356 Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
  • Neutral If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar. --MadEwokHerd 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --MadEwokHerd 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon

the facts

G'oh!

The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"

  • Accept. I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Accept. Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
  • Decline I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
  • agree That sure sounds like homer. -Nate

Channel 3

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

  • Decline. I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --Chrysaor
  • Decline. Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --ED!smilde
  • Decline. Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --Lyzz
  • Delcine Who cares? It's too obvious and not "fun" at all --Clever Ben
  • Decline So what? Video Game Consoles do that too.

Homestar's cartoon

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really does eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

  • Rewrite/Decline. I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --Chrysaor
  • Decline -- Asploder
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --Upsilon
  • Weak Rewrite. Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see Ox. Engl. Dict. or dictionary.com). --Svelt

radio

Four-and-twenty stone

1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

  • Decline. Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --Upsilon
    • Second. While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe TBC wouldn't promote marijuana here. --beanluc
    • Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --Svelt
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
    • Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Decline. The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --Lyzz
  • Decline. I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — sninky-chan
  • Decline. 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- thatkidsam
  • No vote from me on this, but 420 is the police code for marjuana possesion i believe and that is where the 4:20 comes from, pot smokers have a holiday of sorts on april 20th, and light up at 4:20 pm...not that i would know ,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. "4-and-20" is an old-fashioned way of saying 24, and "stone" is a unit of weight. -Clever Ben
  • Decline It is also referring to the adage that the camera (being on TV...) adds 16 pounds. So old-tyme Strong Bad is saying in an old-timey way that the radio makes him sound fat.-Anonymous

The fish was delish

Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

  • Decline. It's actually an old broadcasting cliché - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc

The fish was delish and it made quite a dish

Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Modify. Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --Svelt
    • Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... Second, I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--Shadow Hog 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja

Crackity towel!

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in Halloween Fairstival.

  • Decline. A vast stretch. --Upsilon
  • Decline He's not even saying "crackity towel". He's repeating what Strong Sad said. -Clever Ben

Senor Cardgage

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like Senor Cardgage.

  • Decline. That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --Upsilon
  • Decline. The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --FortyTwo
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. If you ever listen to college radio they mumble a bunch and sound unprofessional.--ninja pirate 22:20, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

Crackotage

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like Crackotage

  • Decline. Again, a vast stretch. --Upsilon
    • Second --FortyTwo
    • Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from Malloween Commercial sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --Svelt
    • Second. Kamek 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja

Bruce Almighty

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

  • Decline. A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --Upsilon
    • Second tompagenet 14:24, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --BegyLips
    • Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a Second. --RPharazon
    • That's what I needed to hear...Second. --BegyLips
    • Second. Kamek 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. The Real Zajac 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --Jay 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
    • Second. -- SailorHippyGirl
  • Decline. looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--J to the sag
  • Decline! "That's the way the cookie crumbles" is a common phrase that originated ages ago, if anything.

Plugged in

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

  • Decline. because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe rewrite to state that it's on the same DESK. --Jay 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Just not interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

Highball!

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in montage

  • Neutral This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --TheNintenGenius 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --Jay 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. --Svelt
    • Second. I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --Kamek 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --Ninjin Ninja

The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --beanluc

  • Decline. This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --Svelt
    • Withdrawn! Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --beanluc

Stop calling me Senator

Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2 when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --beanluc

  • Revise, accept. Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --MadEwokHerd 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

animal

Foster's Home

The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, Sterrance, could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

  • Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --Svelt
  • Decline. Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Decline. I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --Lyzz
    • I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --Svelt
  • Decline Guess what? There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin! Kevin is automatically a reference to this character! Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name! It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name! -Clever Ben

Deep Sea Fangily Fish

The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -RPharazon

  • Decline. - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in Finding Nemo and elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --Jay 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. Kamek 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a friggin' ANGLERFISH for crying out loud!!! -Clever Ben

Pikmin thing?

the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

  • Note: I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played Pikmin and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --Shadow Hog 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--O&U
  • Decline There's some similarity, but I doubt it. --MadEwokHerd 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --TheNintenGenius
  • Second -Clever Ben

17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

    • Second. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --Ninjin Ninja
  • To quote Strong Bad: "No no no." Kamek 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

Lappy Startup Screen

The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of Mac OS 8. --codeman38 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

  • Decline. This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- RPharazon
  • Rewrite. If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --oddtodd
  • Shorten and Rewrite. Same as above. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --MadEwokHerd 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

The Price is Right... Again

The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show The Price Is Right.

  • Decline Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --Jay 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.
Thoughts? --oddtodd 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --Anonymous 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Rewrite. This is clearly a reference to The Show. --The Real Zajac 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --Svelt
  • Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat

Speculations, Again

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

  • Decline Stretch...huge stretch --ninja pirate 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second --Tiggera 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --oddtodd 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --Tim333 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline. Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --Upsilon

Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

Weird laptop

After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

  • Weak decline. This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on Lappy 486, I'll concede. --Upsilon
  • Accept and Move. This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - RPharazon
  • Rephrase and move This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • second— madkayaker[[]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • Second. These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --Svelt
  • Decline because: a) The [Portable] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --ryandesign 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)

Off-screen typing

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

  • Neutral Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. Kamek 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. Tim333
  • Rewrite. How's-about...
Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.
--Upsilon
  • Decline I don't eve know what they're talking about. --Clever Ben
    • That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --Upsilon

Babies havin' babies

Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

  • Decline. I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --MadEwokHerd 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

virus

Bubs' Broken JPEG

Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the Thnikkaman sign taped on his shirt in monument. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

  • Modify, accept. I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --Upsilon

Quadratic formula

The quadratic formula is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

  • Delete. Not meaningful, fairly obvious unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Interesting. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. See Tom's note on it. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Too obvious. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep- Not many peple know that --Asploder
    • Second --Aawy 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --Jay 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --sterrence
  • Delete. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Delete. This isn't fun at all. →FireBird
  • Decline. Neither fun nor obscure. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - Rainer
    • Second. On grounds of irrelevance. --The Paper 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
    • Please, please sign! Use --~~~~ - it shows up like: --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Mocify and Accept. Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. --Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Modify There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --Svelt
  • Accept. --Lyzz
  • Comment. I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --MadEwokHerd 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Pi

The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an irrational number, so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

  • Modify and keep. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
Or something like that.-- Lyzz
  • Keep Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete Way too obvious. --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - Rainer
  • Accept. I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - J to the Sag
  • Accept. Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --Upsilon
    • Second. Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --oddtodd 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Modify and Accept. I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --racerx_is_alive 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --Aawy 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --MadEwokHerd 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

3D Bubs legs

When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "stunt double", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

  • Delete. Doubtful. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Eh. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify but keep. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but maybe Modify. See previous anonymous vote. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete- Vaguely 3D???? --Asploder
  • Decline. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, accept. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Modify, Keep. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →FireBird
  • Modify, keep Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - Rainer
  • Accept. "stunt double" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --The Real Zajac 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. --Superdotman
    • Actually, during the part of New Boots that is actually the Hip Hop Dance video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --Lyzz
      • Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
  • Comment. Old but inconclusive. --MadEwokHerd 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Compy 386 on e-mail menu

When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

  • Modify. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Hold until tomorrow. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Delete (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --Jay 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. Not fun. - Rainer
  • Move. It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --oddtodd 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after animal was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --The Real Zajac 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --Clever Ben
  • Comment. This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --MadEwokHerd 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Homsar's walking sound

The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "for kids".

  • Delete. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but Modify. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but Modify. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Revise. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. Chop off "for kids" part. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, accept. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →FireBird
  • Delete. Heaps of sounds have been reused. - Rainer
  • Delete. Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --gwr2004
  • Modify, accept (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --oddtodd 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- I'm tired of brackets!
  • Comment. Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --MadEwokHerd 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Edgar's anachronism

Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

  • Keep. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good. --TheNintenGenius 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Delete. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --TheNintenGenius 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep, because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete, this is incorrect. Wikipedia lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
  • Decline. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite, accept. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Modify and keep As per kef's comment. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --MadEwokHerd 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Interesting. - Rainer
  • Proposed Revision: Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. FireLily
  • Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC intentionally selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --83.88.139.108 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept.Interesting. -cubeboy
  • Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. miket61
  • Comment. This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --MadEwokHerd 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)


Shopping for Danger

Reynold and Ghostbusters

Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to Ghostbusters II.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Keep Only if we can see why. →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep -- Asploder
  • Modify, Accept — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --Svelt
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Comment. This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --MadEwokHerd 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED)

'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or Cheat Commandos...O's.

VERDICT: Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Speaker sound (DECLINED)

The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail theme park.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Halloween Fairstival

Speaking

This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

  • Accept Seems noteworthy to me. --Ogog
  • Modify. That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --Svelt
  • Accept. Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --Upsilon
  • Accept.--Lyzz

Shin guards (DECLINED)

Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to Talk:Halloween Fairstival. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Humminama What?

When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

Creeping Death

The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

  • Accept/Rewrite: I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see Carol). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --Svelt
  • Decline - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer

WEAR FLIP FLOPS.

In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "WEAR A BIKINI!" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

  • Decline: This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Decline. I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --The Real Zajac 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

All white stuff on his face

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.

Strong Mad's laugh

Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in helium. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

  • Decline: So, they changed his laugh. -Fuzzy
  • Decline. Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. OK. - Rainer
  • Decline. It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Abstain/Explanation: Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - Rebochan 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

"I blew it, man... I lose my touch."

(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

  • Accept. I didn't know that. -- Mithent 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify and Keep. I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Broken Compy Menu

Large Blank Space

If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

VERDICT: Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to Talk:Broken Compy Menu. Kamek 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

Theme Song Video

Drink Me?

in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

  • Decline. Obvious. --gwr2004
  • Decline. Why is this one even being voted on? --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- Mithent 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - Rebochan 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Move. This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --The Real Zajac 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD

The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED)

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

VERDICT: Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD. Kamek 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

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The Old Man Fishin'

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from Peasant's Quest

  • Decline. Already mentioned in the button description. -- Kamek

anything

Dan VS. Jerome

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

  • Delete. Already mentioned in the transcript. -- Kamek
  • Accept. Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- ED!smilde 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
  • Very Much Accept It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: Homestar: Well, Jerome {even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}. --Jay 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --Upsilon
      • What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --Jay 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --Svelt
        • No comparison? How about old comics, where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --Upsilon
          • Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --Svelt
            • I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on old comics. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
    • Second. I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --Chiphead
  • My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to Accept and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. Kamek 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Move to Transcript ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --Svelt

Dan Vs. Jerome 2

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

Soda Physics

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

  • Delete. Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- Kamek

personal favorites

The Beginning and the End

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the Tandy 400 and the introduction of the Compy 386. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in invisibility and his interminable crying at the end of virus.

  • Rewrite. --Suicune64
  • Accept. That is interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --Upsilon
    • Second. --Gafaddict
    • Second. --sterrence
    • Second, but Rewrite. Good but took me a second read to understand. -- Mithent 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

impression

Elephant Slippers

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

  • Decline. This is a bit of a stretch. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --Upsilon

Get it off

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

Decline. I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True

The Only Time?

This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)

  • Neutral What about mile? Maybe it is, maybe not. --ED!smilde
  • Neutral, because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --Upsilon
    • Probably Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --Jay 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
        • On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --Upsilon

Malloween Commercial

Mallowcremes

"Malloweens" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.

  • Decline. It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Decemberween Kids' Book

Magic Ball #1

The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the Palantir from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.

Magic Ball #2

The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.

Magic Ball #3

Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.

  • Decline. I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --Lyzz
    • Second. SB's magic ball only burns flesh when it glows, which doesn't apply to any of the above. --Svelt

montage

Animal House

The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film Animal House, when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.

  • Decline. This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -Lyzz 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. While this does happen in a lot of movies, using it as the easy-way-out ending for a comedy pretty much began with Animal House, predating its use in other films like Legally Blonde (apparently; I've never seen it) and Fast Times at Ridgemont High. --poogas
  • Decline. Although this kind of montage probably did start with Animal House, this usage of it is probably just a parody of the whole cliche of the "what happened to _________" montage itself, rather than any particular film. (Besides, Animal House just said "[NAME] [GRADUATING CLASS] [FATE]," so this, which uses complete sentences (with lower case) cannot be a direct reference to it. Yes, I'm a geek...) --Jeffrey

headphones

When watching the flash file, during the montage of Strong Bad and the wagon falling in love, you can see that the headphones they use to listen to the record player aren't plugged into anything.

  • Very decline. We do not track problems "outside the wall" because they're irrelevant -- TBC didn't intend for you to see that. See the last paragraph of the Fun Facts section of the Standards document. --ryandesign 21:14, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

hellboy

"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

scoreboard

The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

  • Accept. I missed that somehow.. --MadEwokHerd 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. In the transcript. --Upsilon
    • Comment The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --MadEwokHerd 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

ketchup

The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in funny

Games

Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Accept. I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
  • Rewrite Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- Tim333
    • Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --beanluc
  • Rewrite It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
  • Accept. --Upsilon

General

Cross-Toon Facts

Trust

In both the The King of Town DVD and the Search for the Yellow Dello commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.

The Brothers Chaps

'Til Death and all that

Both of the Brothers are married.

  • Accept. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --sterrence
    • Second. Hmm. Okay! --Lyzz
  • Accept. Where is this on the wiki? It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of his wife doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt. --Svelt
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