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**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one.  Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie.  The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one.  Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie.  The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
==== Buh-hubs ====
==== Buh-hubs ====

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HRWiki:STUFF
The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

dreamail

Backwards joke

The backwards joke first appeared in 2 emails.

  • Decline. While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --PolarBoy 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. It's clearly not the same joke. --MadEwokHerd 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

Ping

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

  • Decline. how can you tell? -- Keab42
  • I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win.

If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --super orange! 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

  • Decline. You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --Upsilon
  • Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --super orange! 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

Not Plugged In

The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.

The Reddest Radish

Paper Doll Style

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

  • Decline. Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --thatkidsam 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

island

Forward referencing # 1

Homestar called Strong Bad Stinkoman. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his 20X6 counterpart in japanese cartoon.

Forward Referencing #2

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until interview.

  • I would have to say Decline to both of those. TBC probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
    • Second that.
    • Second --PolarBoy 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

homsar

Heavy Lourde

"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

  • Decline. This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- sterrence
  • Fact, yes. Fun...no. Decline. sorry. -- kerrek_slaya
  • Decline. Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - Rainer

part-time job

SWF File

This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: File:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg

  • Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --24.21.86.243 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --24.21.86.243 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Delete. ever try watching virus or flashback in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --kerrek_slaya PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
  • Delete. Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- thatkidsam 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

Relative

Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

  • It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
    • Yes, it is. So Decline. -- Mithent 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
      • A little unclear, but basically a good one. Revise i think would be best. --kerrek_slaya
  • Revise To say Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand. -- The Real Zajac 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
  • Decline He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -Rainer
  • And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --tiktak
    • Second. thatkidsam 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. Rainer
      • Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
  • Decline. In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --Upsilon
    • Second that. --Ian 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

Dilbert

The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip Dilbert where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

Also seen worded as:

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like Dilbert's.

  • A classic Dilbert feature. Accept
  • Decline to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --65.188.66.12 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept I dident know that
  • Accept the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --PolarBoy 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

Buh-hubs

In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in lunch special. - Tim

Someday

In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to monster truck.

  • Decline: given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --65.188.66.12 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -Rainer
  • Decline. Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --Upsilon
  • Decline. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. gwr2004 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • True dat. Second'd. --Ian 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

League of Women Voters

"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

  • I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --24.21.86.243 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --corbmobile 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

20X6 vs. 1936

Dr Zoidberg

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.

  • Decline. That's nothing but a coincidence. --Tiggera 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. Nevrmore 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- thatkidsam 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Revise. I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.--RPharazon
  • many people say "robot" this way. declineing it all the way, man. sorry. --kerrek_slaya

2 years

Mormon Missionary

E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

  • Accept. -- thatkidsam 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--216.231.36.102 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

Where's The Cheat?

according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 homestarkid09

  • Decline. You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? Rainer
    • Second. --MadEwokHerd 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Tiggera 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

time capsule

The hole in 20X6 is from 2 years.

  • Decline. I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. DG 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)

Kick the Can

The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --No Parking 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST) (Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

huttah!

Title

The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

  • decline Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. Anyone who thought someone wouldn't figure this out needs their brain examined. --super orange!
    • Second. (except the part about the brain examination) Rainer
  • Neutral. I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --Lyzz
  • Decline. "This email is called old comics because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called the facts because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called flag day because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --Upsilon
    • Second.--FortyTwo 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't notice it either. --MadEwokHerd 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Homestar Presents: Presents

Homestar's Clock

  • It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

Revise and accept Not in Alaska.

Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~

  • You know alot about clocks.

Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)

Rewrite To something like:

  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!

'Glitches' due to Flash software

Egg Nog Glass

Decline As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --Pianoplayerontheroof

Grabbo Arm Sound
  • Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in car.

Accept Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --Pianoplayerontheroof

Dripping Sound
  • The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in Main Page 14.

Decline. Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --Pianoplayerontheroof

All Three

Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

hahahahaha! decline all but the second and them being 'glitches' Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

  • Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --Pianoplayerontheroof
    • This wasn't an attempt at a fun fact, it was a comment about the previous three fun facts. So you can't decline it.
      • It wasn't originally divided up when I said that. 24.21.86.243 put them all as one STUFF object. So yes, I can. He originally posted them as one stuff item and said "so they should be under glitches" ...I'll change my little decline thing.

Easily observed facts

  • Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in caper.

It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

Rewrite it and put up a page for Homestar's Bunny Slippers in the clothing category of the Items page. --Pianoplayerontheroof

Accept Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--68.4.92.98 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

H*R is silly, not a parody

  • The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from personal favorites.
    • This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
  • Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).
  • The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.
  • Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.
  • Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

  • Decline all but the last None of those are interesting except for the last one; which is a refrence, not a parody. And stop posting these things, 24.21.86.243. That's not what S.T.U.F.F. is for!
  • Decline all but the last two Referencing a not-that-well-known sync up(especially for a band like Pink Floyd, though not druggie[with the exception of Syd Barrett, who was out before their 3rd album], are pretty 'out there' you could say) seems exactly what they'd do for Homsar. And the 'Beat It' one is very reasonable.
  • Accept Wow all very good facts

Unimportant facts

  • This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.
  • The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

Unimportant facts 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

complain about you STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!! but seriously decline both If Marzipan's purse starts showing up more often, then re-add the first one.

  • Second! --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Second. Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- Mithent 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

If you go up stairs you are on the second floor

Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

  • True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • decline A tad too obvious. --super orange! 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. Xycho
  • Decline That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". Rainer

Homestar always confuses have and has

Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

  • No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" Rainer

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

It's odd considering...

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

  • Decline, if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Accept, Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--James]] (I'm not logged in)
    • Second, I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. Xhycho
    • Second. - Rainer
    • Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Revise and Accept as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second.--Lyzz~
    • Second. It is notable. -- Mithent 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline or Revise. We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's Homestar. He needs no excuse to be confused. --FortyTwo 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --MadEwokHerd 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.

Alms for the Pudgy

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

  • Decline. The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- FortyTwo 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)

1 on 1

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In Pumpkin Carve-nival, it was really Strong Bad, and in army he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - super orange

Electrical Tape?

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

  • Decline. That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - Rebochan 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --MadEwokHerd 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --homestarkid09
    • Second. What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - Rainer
    • Second. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --Kerrek Slaya!

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor

"state trooper"

Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song Straight Shooter by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." Terra Rising Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "I'm a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "Hi, Wonder Mike" in his characters video.) Terra Rising Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

Am I allowed to add this to the main page now? Terra Rising Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

  • Decline-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. PaxMan356 Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
  • Accept. I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Neutral If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar. --MadEwokHerd 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --MadEwokHerd 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Janik

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!

radio

The fish was delish and it made quite a dish

Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Modify. Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --Svelt
    • Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... Second, I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--Shadow Hog 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Comment. Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --MadEwokHerd 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. This is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- Mithent 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of F and SH sounds, as well as popping of T sounds. --El Zilcho

The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --beanluc

  • Decline. This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --Svelt
    • Withdrawn! Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --beanluc
  • Accept. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --kerrek_slaya

animal

check out all my dimensions

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to stunt double, "Check out all my dimensions."

  • Comment. Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --MadEwokHerd 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

Lappy Startup Screen

The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of Mac OS 8. --codeman38 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

  • Decline. This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- RPharazon
  • Rewrite. If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --oddtodd
  • Shorten and Rewrite. Same as above. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --MadEwokHerd 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Move it. This goes on the Lappy page! --Pianoplayerontheroof

The Price is Right... Again

The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show The Price Is Right.

  • Decline Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --Jay 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.
Thoughts? --oddtodd 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --Anonymous 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Rewrite. This is clearly a reference to The Show. --The Real Zajac 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --Svelt
  • Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
  • Comment. Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --MadEwokHerd 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

Weird laptop

After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

  • Weak decline. This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on Lappy 486, I'll concede. --Upsilon
  • Accept and Move. This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - RPharazon
  • Rephrase and move This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • second— madkayaker[[]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • Second. These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --Svelt
  • Decline because: a) The [Portable] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --ryandesign 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
  • Declare Null and Void. This fact is already stated on the Lappy page. --Pianoplayerontheroof

Off-screen typing

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

  • Neutral Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. Kamek 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. Tim333
  • Rewrite. How's-about...
Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.
--Upsilon
  • Decline I don't even know what they're talking about. --Clever Ben
    • That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --Upsilon
  • Comment. More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --MadEwokHerd 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Babies havin' babies

Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

  • Decline. I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --MadEwokHerd 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

virus

Quadratic formula

The quadratic formula is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

  • Delete. Not meaningful, fairly obvious unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Interesting. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. See Tom's note on it. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Too obvious. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep- Not many peple know that --Asploder
    • Second --Aawy 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --Jay 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --sterrence
  • Delete. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Delete. This isn't fun at all. →FireBird
  • Decline. Neither fun nor obscure. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - Rainer
    • Second. On grounds of irrelevance. --The Paper 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
    • Please, please sign! Use --~~~~ - it shows up like: --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --oddtodd 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Mocify and Accept. Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. --Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Modify There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --Svelt
  • Accept. --Lyzz
  • Comment. I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --MadEwokHerd 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --Ingeniousknight
    • You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --MadEwokHerd

Pi

The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an irrational number, so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

  • Modify and keep. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
Or something like that.-- Lyzz
  • Keep Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete Way too obvious. --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - Rainer
  • Accept. I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - J to the Sag
  • Accept. Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --Upsilon
    • Second. Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --oddtodd 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Modify and Accept. I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --racerx_is_alive 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --Aawy 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --MadEwokHerd 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

3D Bubs legs

When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "stunt double", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

  • Delete. Doubtful. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Eh. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify but keep. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but maybe Modify. See previous anonymous vote. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete- Vaguely 3D???? --Asploder
  • Decline. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, accept. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Modify, Keep. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →FireBird
  • Modify, keep Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - Rainer
  • Accept. "stunt double" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --The Real Zajac 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. --Superdotman
    • Actually, during the part of New Boots that is actually the Hip Hop Dance video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --Lyzz
      • Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
  • Comment. Old but inconclusive. --MadEwokHerd 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Compy 386 on e-mail menu

When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

  • Modify. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Hold until tomorrow. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Delete (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --Jay 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Decline. Not fun. - Rainer
  • Move. It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --oddtodd 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after animal was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --The Real Zajac 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --Clever Ben
  • Comment. This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --MadEwokHerd 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Homsar's walking sound

The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "for kids".

  • Delete. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but Modify. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep but Modify. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Revise. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. Chop off "for kids" part. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, accept. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →FireBird
  • Delete. Heaps of sounds have been reused. - Rainer
  • Delete. Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --gwr2004
  • Modify, accept (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --oddtodd 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!
  • Comment. Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --MadEwokHerd 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Edgar's anachronism

Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

  • Keep. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good. --TheNintenGenius 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Delete. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --TheNintenGenius 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep, because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --Dwedit 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete, this is incorrect. Wikipedia lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
  • Decline. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite, accept. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Modify and keep As per kef's comment. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --MadEwokHerd 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Interesting. - Rainer
  • Proposed Revision: Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. FireLily
  • Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC intentionally selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --83.88.139.108 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept.Interesting. -cubeboy
  • Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. miket61
  • Comment. This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --MadEwokHerd 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Comment. I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I would say that. -- FireLily 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
    • Comment. I agree, but of course I would as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --MadEwokHerd 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Gilligan's Island?

The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

  • Keep -- Was thinking the same thing. -- olene

Shopping for Danger

Reynold and Ghostbusters

Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to Ghostbusters II.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Keep Only if we can see why. →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep -- Asploder
  • Modify, Accept — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --Svelt
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Comment. This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --MadEwokHerd 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED)

'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or Cheat Commandos...O's.

VERDICT: Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Speaker sound (DECLINED)

The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail theme park.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Halloween Fairstival

Shin guards (DECLINED)

Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to Talk:Halloween Fairstival. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Broken Compy Menu

Large Blank Space

If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

VERDICT: Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to Talk:Broken Compy Menu. Kamek 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)


In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD

The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED)

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

VERDICT: Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD. Kamek 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)


anything

Dan VS. Jerome

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

  • Delete. Already mentioned in the transcript. -- Kamek
  • Accept. Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- ED!smilde 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
  • Very Much Accept It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: Homestar: Except you, Jerome {even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}. --Jay 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --Upsilon
      • What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --Jay 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --Svelt
        • No comparison? How about old comics, where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --Upsilon
          • Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --Svelt
            • I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on old comics. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
    • Second. I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --Chiphead
  • My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to Accept and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. Kamek 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Move to Transcript ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --Svelt
  • This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --MadEwokHerd 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)



Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True

The Only Time?

This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)

  • Neutral What about mile? Maybe it is, maybe not. --ED!smilde
  • Neutral, because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --Upsilon
    • Probably Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --Jay 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
        • On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --Upsilon

Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts

In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

Delete Already mentioned in the Transcript. --Ooy



montage

hellboy

"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

scoreboard

The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

  • Accept. I missed that somehow.. --MadEwokHerd 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. In the transcript. --Upsilon
    • Comment The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --MadEwokHerd 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Slightly Decline The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, in theory, it could be on.

ketchup

The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in funny

Games

Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Accept. I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
  • Rewrite Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- Tim333
    • Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --beanluc
  • Rewrite It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
  • Accept. --Upsilon

General

Cross-Toon Facts

Trust

In both the The King of Town DVD and the Search for the Yellow Dello commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.

  • Decline-Common phrase. →FireBird
  • Uh, I think it's about time someone got rid of this......but I'm afraid I'd mess it up if I did it. This page appears to have some sort of organization that isn't shared by the archive page. --MadEwokHerd 15:30, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

The Brothers Chaps

'Til Death and all that

Both of the Brothers are married.

  • Accept. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --sterrence
    • Second. Hmm. Okay! --Lyzz
  • Accept. Where is this on the wiki? It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of his wife doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt. --Svelt
  • This is another thing that needs to be archived and that I'm afraid I'd mess up. I've added it to the TBC page. --MadEwokHerd 15:35, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Email FAQ

A Jumping Jack Contest and Marshmallow's Last Stand

This FAQ claims that A Jumping Jack Contest and Marshmallow's Last Stand will back on the site one day, but never says why they were taken off.

  • Move. This should be noted somewhere on the page for each of these toons. --MadEwokHerd 14:04, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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