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Revision as of 13:03, 25 April 2005

The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.


New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

couch patch

Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

  • Revise. Uhh...I sort of catch your meaning. -MK and/or BurnBox 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Most dictionaries list it as one word: crosstalk.It's dot com 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". Donny vs Universe
  • Revise You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. GillanTheVillain 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --TheEggman 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."
  • Exobably not. I think he's just telling his compy to cut the sass.

Blue Laser Commander

A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

  • Decline. I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --Jay 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Un-second Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a PARODY, when the fun-fact-adder said reference? Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
    • Second. --Trogga 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- tomstiff 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --Jay 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so Decline. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? Donny vs Universe
    • Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- tomstiff 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinated! But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
  • Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. ISlayedTheKerrek 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT. This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a very distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. Chris Latta gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is clearly mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — It's dot com 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- tomstiff 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more interwiki links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, I did. — IDC 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the CHARACTER not the guy doing the voice. Donny vs Universe
  • ACCEPTED! For reasons already stated. -- Homsar999ß 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • My first-ever accept. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. Rudeboy87 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Arrgh!! You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. Donny vs Universe
    • I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right On! -- tomstiff 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the Blue Laser Commander voice? Parody. Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
  • Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
  • Does THAT work? --Jay 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. still decline All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. Donny vs Universe
      • Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --Jay 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. Donny vs Universe
        • Fair enough Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --Jay 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • No special comment this time, just Accept Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---the spludge 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Under Construction

Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".

The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
  • "MAYBE'D!"I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--MrsCommanderson 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- tomstiff 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. - Dr Haggis - Talk 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept 1st, Decline 2nd I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. Dasrik 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. Decline the second
  • No and no. It's snot. Rudeboy87 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept (though possibly revise?) Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The Snot Bubble is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--rsl12 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --Beatfox 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Kvb 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.Rebochan 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --Trogga 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • NuetralSo what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?The_Pardack
  • Decline Note the commentary for japanese cartoon. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. Suicune64 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • WITHDRAWN Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be Rewritten. I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.TakuaKaita600 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

trevor the vampire

Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F

When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

  • Wait a minute... Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. Rudeboy87 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- tomstiff 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in sb_email 22? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as The Lion King and Finding Nemo. --Beatfox 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment. Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --Upset_Your_Balance 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
  • Decline TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". Donny vs Universe
  • Decline Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--rsl12 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — It's dot com 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. NOTE: please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- tomstiff 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. The_Pardack
    • Second. I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. Super Sam 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --GregHosting 03:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It is true that anyone can figure out, but TBC don't usually curse. I think this is the closest we're going to get. →evin290 18:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Nope.... I don't think this needs to be a fun fact at all... i think it was just a joke for the email, not a fact or anything.
  • DECLINE'd!!! Not because he didn't...he obviously did, but then, that's why. It's really obvious and doesn't need to be noted.TakuaKaita600 17:27, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

japanese cartoon

So cool an unseen email

Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

  • Decline I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --Jay 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it. This is a parody of the Klez email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --Beatfox 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • That's it. Thanks. --Jay 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Second. -- tomstiff 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Third. It's just part of the song. -- Super Sam 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • 'Eh, Decline! This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---the spludge 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • So cool a decline, I thought I would THIRD it even! TakuaKaita600 17:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oolong's Namesake

Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for Combolations in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or Oolong the rabbit, whose owner is Japanese.

  • Decline. I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --Beatfox 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Always decline TTATO facts! -- tomstiff 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.
    • Decline. TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- Joshua 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Sheds a tear My own little abbreviation is growing up. --Jay 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • May be declined Dasrik 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • 42'd -- Yeah, I always suspected it refered to Oolon Colophid, Lem Sportsinterviews' counterpart from HHTG, so we must therefor all be wrong simultaneously :) MetaStar 22:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

MikeMike And Matt Rock

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to Mike and Matt Chapman.

  • DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! Anonymous Contributor
  • Completely Decline. No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
  • Comment. Why wasn't this just deleted? --Upset_Your_Balance 1:13 19 Apr 2005
  • Accept. Never caught that. --Trogga 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. Decline Dasrik 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Calm yourself, Dasrik. No need for such a rant. Anyway, I say Accept. And, dasrik, it's not blatingly obvious OR a surpreme stretch. It's enough so that someone might not know it, yet not completely out-of range...exaclty the kind of thing a Fun Fact needs.TakuaKaita600 17:35, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I was perfectly calm. Read it again. There are lots of people named Mike and Matt, enough so that this kind of thing could be disputed til the cows come home, or until TBC set the record straight. Exactly the kind of thing that makes a Fun Fact NOT fun. Dasrik 06:49, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • But how many of them are directly involved in the creation of Homestar Runner cartoons? --Jay 07:08, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Best Decline I ever spent I think it is just too obvious and isn't exactly a fun fact. --user: lappy 486
  • Delcine While, unlike Dasrik, I am CONFIDENT that the reference was to Mike and Matt Chapman (they made the cartoon!), this is a little too obvious. --Jay 07:08, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)



"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to time capsule.

rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

  • Decline It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --Jay 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh oops. I missed that.
  • However, there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
  • Accept i guess It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --user: Lappy 486
  • Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --Jay 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Laugh and grow fat

This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

  • Not even. The first time, as far as I know, was in labor day. Rudeboy87 16:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Very Weak Decline. Coach Z just kinda barely chuckles in labor day. Are there any other examples of him, well ... actually laughing ... hard? -- tomstiff 17:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Does it matter? Donny vs Universe
    • Comment. Well, I remember thinking "Gosh, I dunno if I've ever heard Coach Z laugh before." But that's just me ... -- tomstiff 04:20, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Welll.... It says "heard" him laugh, and we don't exactly HEAR the laugh in Labor Dabor... --user: lappy 486

The Li'l Brudder Show

Ugly Animation

The animation resembles the work of Klasky Csupo (most famous for Rugrats), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

  • Decline Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is supposed to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --acekirby13 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Declime Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- tomstiff 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Not So Li'l Decline Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. GillanTheVillain 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Withdrawn I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. Lucres 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd! I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also Second all of the above. Cheatachu72 18 Apr 2005
    • Second. He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --Trogga 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • No he doesn't. Rudeboy87 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- tomstiff 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I don't see any resemblance. -- Super Sam 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second? Li'l Brudder skydiving sort of looks like the animation of Klasky-Csupo, but that's just it. Never reminded me of anything the first time I watched it. -MK and/or BurnBox 23:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Things are lookin' up!

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")TakuaKaita600 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Comment. Here's a link to the lyrics. -- tomstiff 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...TakuaKaita600 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Close, but Decline. It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. Dasrik 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • It's De Cline. --Beatfox 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE'D It's a far stretch.--Mr. Sparkle 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- tomstiff 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --Gafaddict 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in crying? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --thatkidsam 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline. -- Homsar999ß 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • Decline and, by the way, if this WAS accurate, there would be nothing "ironic" about the "happy as a pup" line, unless you use the Alanis definition of irony (ie. "any funny coincidence.") --Jay 05:50, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • That's true...changed it to "Incidentally."TakuaKaita600 17:02, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept! I think this could be a reference. It is a good fact!! --User: Lappy 486


What year is it?

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

VERDICT: This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at Talk:impression. -Upset_Your_Balance 16 Apr 2005

  • ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
    • I think this one is a special case. It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --Jay 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --TheEggman
  • I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -Upset_Your_Balance

dangeresque 3


The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to They Might Be Giants, who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with TBC on several occasions.

  • Decline. Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- tomstiff 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Today's forecast is total crap. When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? Rudeboy87 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "May be"...ugh. Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Accept. This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for nine months. It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's no chance that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me put it in context: in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several Puppet Jams added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, Experimental Film was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they didn't have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — It's dot com 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Lucres 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I think not. Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. Rudeboy87 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →evin290 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be accepted!" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--MrsCommanderson 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --rsl12 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the context of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — It's dot com 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- tomstiff 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
    • Comment. He comes the link! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- tomstiff 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a lot of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof really "beyond a reasonable doubt," or would a "preponderance of the evidence" standard apply? — It's dot com 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- tomstiff 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Aha! Now that's an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to officially downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — It's dot com 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Leaning towards decline. It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.TakuaKaita600 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Discount Flashback Warehouse

In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.

  • Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants... Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --Jay 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- mibluvr13 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment from original poster: After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad talks like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact rephrased: In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
  • Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? Decriminoted (decline).' ISlayedTheKerrek
  • Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
  • Decline Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of theme park. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Comment One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
  • D3kl1n3!! I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --kerrek slaya 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man! Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before Senor Mortgage. Check yer facts, folks. ---the spludge 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment from original poster: Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
    • Note on the characters: Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who resembles Senor Cardgage. --The Real Zajac 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
  • DEE-CLINE! Aslo note that

A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad. B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here. TakuaKaita600 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Strong Mad sings

Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

Verdict: After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously Declined. Discussion moved to Talk:replacement. --acekirby13 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

spring cleaning


The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

VERDICT: This information has been moved to the DELETED page. The votes have been moved to Talk:spring cleaning


Poetic chops

Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of trochees), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

  • Decline. I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--rsl12 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Wait a Second!! Kvb 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. Sign yer vote!
    • Weak Second to a Strong Accept. -- tomstiff 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • seconding the third Donny vs Universe
      • seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree. AtionSong
        • 20x6ing the 1936 Beatfox 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second'
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
    • Comment There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
  • Great jorb!
    • Uh... is that a vote? --Jay 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Absolutely not the case! I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.TakuaKaita600 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. I hate to argue with someone on my side, but: Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!" so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle). Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--rsl12 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I don't think people really need to know this. --User: Lappy 486 Apr 21

Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?

Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player Charles Barkley, the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won American Idol in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

  • Decline. Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --TheEggman 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- but -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with Decline-ing it. --Jay 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --ISlayedTheKerrek 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Comment. A little Googling shows that Kenny Price was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- tomstiff 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- tomstiff 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- mibluvr13 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Round Mound of Decline Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" SP'd
  • Rewrite it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.--GregHosting 03:22, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite. When I watched rampage for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- Homsar999ß 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • Who's the dude on 21 Decline Street I think not- round mounds could be anything. User: Lappy 486

Dumpy Dump sat on a wall

Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

  • Decline all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --Jay 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Revise As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -Upset_Your_Balance
    • Second. Aurora the Homestar Coder 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --rsl12 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
  • Accept I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?Theving
    • Uh... no? It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --Jay 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Silly They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.Theving
      • If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --Jay 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. Theving
  • Decline all. It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --TheEggman 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --Jay 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more possible references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --TheEggman 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • DJ Decline There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. Rudeboy87 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. Donny vs Universe
    • And a comment I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — It's dot com 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Rewrite. Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.ISlayedTheKerrek 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- mibluvr13 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. SP
  • A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me. I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --Homsar999ß 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • Accept!! This is clearly a reference, especially considering the Coach Z costume part.

Wite Wrapper

The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as Eminem and Vanilla Ice.

  • Del taco... wait... Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --Jay 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Yeah this one is really stretching.Theving
    • Second to last place. Kvb 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Ding! Rudeboy87 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • ... Decline Dasrik 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline -- tomstiff 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED! -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Decline Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --acekirby13 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. White is the color of his face. --thatkidsam 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--AtionSong
  • Decline plus side note: There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --The Real Zajac 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
  • Decline Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? Someone who does not like racism
  • Decline. It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)TakuaKaita600 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. Fizz123
  • Yes, it is. Fizz123
  • Uh Digga-Digga-Digga-DECLINED! For reasons already mentioned.

English Lesson

(under the quiver(ed) definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).

  • Decline'd Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. Rudeboy87 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- mibluvr13 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • A,B,etc... are not numbers.
      • You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
    • Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. Decline. Beatfox 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm on a Rainbow

Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to Reading Rainbow, the popular 90's children reading show.

  • Decline -- tomstiff 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept/Rewrite I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --NFITC1
  • Decline 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Decline. How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --TheEggman 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. GillanTheVillain 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Heck no at all. This is a stretch and three quarters. Rudeboy87 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. TakuaKaita600 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, Decline Dasrik 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • SEVERE Decline!!! Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --thatkidsam 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be DECLINE'D!!! Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. Beatfox 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • VOTE CHANGE! SECOND! That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that!TakuaKaita600 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline.If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--rsl12 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • My Land! Google does show lots & lots of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite. -- tomstiff 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --The Real Zajac 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
  • Weak Decline I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad vaguely says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- AtionSong 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
  • New Trell You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah SP'd is crazy
  • Decline's the limit Nah, 'tis a stretch. --User: Lappy 486

Marzipan's Speech Impediment

Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."

  • Accept. I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. Beatfox 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. For once, I think this is legitimate. --TheEggman 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- tomstiff 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- mibluvr13 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --Jay 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --acekirby13 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. Beatfox 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Countercomment Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --Jay 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --Gafaddict 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second with a side of DECLINE! Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. Donny vs Universe
      • Comment Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. Beatfox 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- tomstiff 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept but Move. Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --The Real Zajac 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
  • Comment. Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have something on the page to point out this oddity. Beatfox 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Because someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --Jay 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • meh I dunno... it seems like a goof to me. Out of place.
  • Comment Did anyone else find it funny that Marzipan stopped smiling as Homsar stopped his AaAaAaAa...? I thought that was funny.
    • Yes, I noticed - but what does that have to do with this fact? --Jay 06:53, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Nothing, that's why it was a comment. :) Accept the fact btw --NFITC1
  • You've been ACCEPTED into Crazy Go Nuts University!...Seriously, folks, this Fun Fact looks like it's good to go.TakuaKaita600 17:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More Pie, Anyone?

"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in other days.

  • Decline. Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". Beatfox 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- tomstiff 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I can't think of a Decline pun right now Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. SP
  • Decline Hot soup is on my eye!Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. Declinester Dasrik 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --The Real Zajac 15:16, 17 Apr 2005
  • Decline, word up no way, just one word, obviously wrong.

Chicken Soup for the Soul

One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" book series.

  • AcceptI like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference!Umbertowasted
  • Decline. Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --acekirby13 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I am sure this is an intentional reference.Theving
  • Weak Accept I can see this. --Jay 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --Gafaddict 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept No more a stretch than the For Jerks book referencing the For Dummies ones. Donny vs Universe
    • Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
  • Decline. Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --TheEggman 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • No way, Lucy. Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. Rudeboy87 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! Kvb 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Delete. There's not way that that is a reference. ISlayedTheKerrek 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. Donny vs Universe
  • DELORTED! That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
  • Insert witty DECLINE comment here MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. SP'd
    • Second. Totally unsupported theory. --The Real Zajac 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
  • Accept Definately a reference
    • Sign teh vote! -acekirby13 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • "Definately" not. DECLINED Dasrik 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Inclined to Decline. Beatfox 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--rsl12 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? Dasrik 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--rsl12 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. Dasrik 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
        • Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. Dasrik 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- ISlayedTheKerrek 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Goodbye. Hope you don't come back. --rsl12 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --Jay 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to Severe Decline/Delete.--ISlayedTheKerrek 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Duh-duh-duh-declined Not a reference.
  • Not neccesarily. It could also be a reference to the book "Soup." TakuaKaita600 17:48, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

  • Decline-erson Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.---erson 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
  • Decline x999 Dasrik 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Piecline. Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- tomstiff 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.---erson 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- tomstiff 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also decline. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE-ED! The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. Super Sam 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Worst Place I decline it because it is so freaking obvious that if you didn't understand it the first time you must be an idiot. User: Lappy 486

time capsule

Norse mythology

The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.

  • Decline. It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...Decline The_Pardack
  • Decline. Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --TheEggman 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. TakuaKaita600 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must Decrine. As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. Rudeboy87 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept. This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--rsl12 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- The Real Zajac 15:21, 17 Apr 2005
  • Decline. This is NOT a fun fact. This is barely a fact. Why wasn't this one just deleted? --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Third Interview

This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" Homsar (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "interview" and he interviewed Homestar in the toon The Interview.

  • Accept. Nice one. hamrodrunner
  • Decline. This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- tomstiff 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --acekirby13 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second Aurora the Homestar Coder 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline to the moon Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. Rudeboy87 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move/revise How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in The Interview and pizzaz." Tom H 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. Declined --TheEggman 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- The Real Zajac 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
  • Decline Nobody cares. Donny vs Universe
  • Severe Decline! First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
  • Declination Nation. No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.TakuaKaita600 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Declorned. Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. Super Sam 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • (accept?) i thought it was a good fact...
  • My card is totally D3CL1N3'D!!! I don't think this is worth mentioning. None of his "interviews" seem to get any information out of anyone anyway. --NFITC1

Homestarloween Party

CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight

When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Discussion moved to Talk:Homestarloween Party. --acekirby13 19:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Not Expecting

Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -TK600

VERDICT: This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to Talk:Fhqwhgads--Posted by -erson 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The joke theory

- (An outcome of "Not Expecting") - It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -TakuaKaita600 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

  • Still Decline Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • 2nd. --Beatfox 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting all such claims; we're only concerned here with this case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it doesn't set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with the fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — It's dot com 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
  • Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline-erson Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.---erson 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)TakuaKaita600 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still Decline. ---erson 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --Gafaddict 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. TakuaKaita600
    • Comment. The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--homestar3.14 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- tomstiff 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?TakuaKaita600 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun fact, it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --Posted by -erson 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment.You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- tomstiff 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. Super Sam 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Ren & Stimpy XR

The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:date. -- tomstiff 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

the show

Homestar's "Arms"

Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly Declined. Discussion moved to Talk:the show. --acekirby13 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Marzipan's Parasol

Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the talk page of suntan.

local news


"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :

(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:local news -- tomstiff 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


"Tough Guys"?

This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to Decline this fact outright. Discussion moved to Talk:brianrietta. --acekirby13 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) PAY PLUS!

Hom Sar Ref

On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --SgtKeeling

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Trial Game origin

The trial game is based upon the Scrolling Shooter Games Menu - the trial game's Flash file contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

False Advertising

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Special Appearance

Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at PAY PLUS!.

Whats Her Face's lack of appearance

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like morning routine.

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to PAY PLUS! --acekirby13 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tall homestar?

In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to PAY PLUS!. --acekirby13 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Updated for the 90's

Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to PAY PLUS!. --acekirby13 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mr. Shmallow (toon)


Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon). -- tomstiff 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

long pants

X-Pensive Winos

The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards' solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. -- tomstiff 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Rodeo Hot Dogs

"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. -- tomstiff 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

  • Weak Decline Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --TheEggman 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to Severe Decline. --TheEggman 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment.The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
  • Accept. I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --Joshua 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --TheEggman 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- tomstiff 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first. I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.TakuaKaita600 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, Rewrite yep, it's true what the man says.
  • Acceptomundo I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. User: Lappy 486

Homestar Over Correction Fluid

When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

Verdict: After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be Moved from Goofs to Remarks on long pants. The discussion can be found at Talk:long pants. --acekirby13 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bedroom Window

Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in Homestar Presents: Presents, but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --VolatileChemical 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

Verdict: After almost a month of voting, this fact was Declined. Discussion moved to Talk:long pants. --acekirby13 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Breaking the Lappy

Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in couch patch.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants -- tomstiff 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Main Page 6

Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

  • Decline If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --the spludge 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
  • Revise and Accept. It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — It's dot com 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
    • Second Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --Joshua 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --TheEggman 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --thatkidsam 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Silent J

Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from Kevin Smith's movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:techno. -- tomstiff 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

the bet

Forgotten Lie

Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.

  • Decline. Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in huttah! -Walking Armless
  • Rewrite and accept. The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."TakuaKaita600 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not only does Strong Bad have a penchant for lying, but this isn't even the first time after the KoT DVD that we've seen or heard about the KoT's castle. Check 3 Times Halloween Funjob or 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True (the latter was unreleased until recently but was clearly started long before this email), as well as a few other 'toons. --Jay 06:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That A Ghost

Sickly Sam's lucky day

This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".

  • Neutral I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --acekirby13 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
  • Decline I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? Donny vs Universe
    • Comment Sickly Sam was never in Kick the Can. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in Mr. Shmallow (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in Ballad of The Sneak (if that counts). --Trogga 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --tomstiff 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite and Accept I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --acekirby13
    • Second--rsl12 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --Trogga 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Slightly We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
    • 1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --Trogga 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so Rewrite and accept --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:That A Ghost. --acekirby13 21:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

best thing


Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

  • Definite Rewrite. Try again. It IS a direct reference. --ISlayedTheKerrek 01:52, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Should not be on the STUFF page. Another version of this fact already went through the STUFF process and can be seen under the "Explanations" heading in best thing. Aurora the Homestar Coder 02:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • CONCUR'D Once and only once applies to STUFF as well. Sorry. --Jay 02:54, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second and moved. If you're gonna STUFF it, for crying out loud, check and make sure there's not a subsection for it on the page already before you put it at the top of the page. --TheEggman 03:57, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Who is John Bozar?

Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of Mr. Mxyzptlk, a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

He also bears a resemblance to the Great Gazoo from The Flintstones.
He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show Mighty Max called Dr. Zygote, who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.
He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.
He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character Q from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.
  • Keep Mr. Mxyzptlk and The Great Gazoo. Scrap the rest. -- tomstiff 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --TheEggman 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment. Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --TheEggman 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment. According to Wikipedia, Mr. Mxyzptlk was introduced in 1944. -- tomstiff 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Comment. My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --TheEggman 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --Jay 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --acekirby13 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Albi refs Abdi??

Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, some kinda robot, who was named Abdi.

  • Decline. Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second. -Walking Armless
    • Threecond. Beatfox 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • ...urge to kill...rising... Decline Dasrik 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Guitar throw refs invisibility??

When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to invisibility. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken Tandy 400 and replaces it with the Compy 386.

  • Decline. Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Go TheEggman!! Uh... I mean Second! Kvb 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. It's a common phrase. --Beatfox 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh please... are you surfing randomly looking for things to correlate? Decline! Dasrik 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

rrll == grrl ??

The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "grrl."

  • Decline. The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • ¡Second! Kvb 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. - tomstiff 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Segundo. Beatfox 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. Decline Dasrik 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • One less than Third


"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a double-stroke roll, which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing -- tomstiff 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Alternative vs. Hair Metal

The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.

  • Revise. A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. ISlayedTheKerrek 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' -- 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise! English, please? --Aussie Evil 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --TheEggman 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Accept New Vresion I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --acekirby13 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Slightly Revise... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --TheEggman 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Background Goof

When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

Vredict: This fact was voted to be Rewritten and Moved. The revised fact now appears on best thing, while the discussion can be found at Talk:best thing. --acekirby13 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Babylon 5

"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to Encounter at Farpoint (the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation) and the popular science-fiction show Babylon 5. (only the part in bold was in question)

Verdict: After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly declined by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on best thing, while the entire discussion can be found on Talk:best thing. -acekirby13 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Until next week...

This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:colonization -- tomstiff 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Trodgor was a Motorhead

The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:dragon. -- tomstiff 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by acekirby13. (Link was to rock opera, not dragon)

rock opera

Definitely Maybe? Yes? No!

"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

Verdict: After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to Talk:rock opera. --acekirby13 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sender's parents

Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in animal about Spud Jr.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera -- tomstiff 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to Citizen Kane and the famous "Rosebud."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pizza Pizzazz

The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Another brick in the wall

At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. MajorB 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

Verdict: After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single Decline vote. Discussion moved to Talk:rock opera. --acekirby13 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Where's The Cheat?

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

Verdict: After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly Declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:Where's The Cheat?. --acekirby13 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You killed Pom-Pom!

When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

  • Decline "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --acekirby13 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Unmatchable Decline Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
  • Delcine. -- tomstiff 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... Decline Dasrik 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Indelible Cline. --Beatfox 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. ISlayedTheKerrek
  • OMG WHAT WERE YOU THINKING This is the worst fact i have ever heard. You thing every time somebody says they killed somebody it means it was referencing to Kenny? Declined as delined can be.
  • Decline. Yeah, or it could be reference to any other cartoon that once used the word "kill"! I bet you just wanted South Park to be mentioned on this site. Kvb 14:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

secret recipes

Pamcakes and Pimecones

Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in montage.

  • Neutral. I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →evin290 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Reasonable, I guess... --Joshua 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second --Trogga 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;The Pardack
    • Comment This is not always true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --NFITC1 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
    • Comment If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --Alun Clewe 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Strong Decline Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
    • He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --Trogga 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? Kvb 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Comment Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Accurate, but not notable. -- tomstiff 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move? Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--rsl12 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --Jay 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Move. Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --Beatfox 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bumdumbourge and Totalslava

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

VERDICT: This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:secret recipes -- tomstiff 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Best Decemberween Ever

The Brethren

This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever -- tomstiff 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kick the Can


According to Bubs' Yearbook Character Page picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk: Kick the Can -- tomstiff 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

other days

Tappity Tappity

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

Verdict: After over a month of voting, this fact was Declined by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to Talk:other days. --acekirby13 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pizzle the Nizzle

The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:other days -- tomstiff 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


German Radio?

Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

VERDICT: This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:radio -- tomstiff 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station (WSBD) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at Talk:radio -- tomstiff 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

WSBD in Ohio

There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:radio -- tomstiff 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. - 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
  • Accept, um, sorta In the Strong Bad Email Band Names, Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
  • Accept Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.Fizz123
    • Comment from original poster Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. - (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
  • Umm... Guys, this fact is still on the page...
    • Comment. You can fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --Beatfox 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

Señor & Mr.Bland

Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of Marshmallow's Last Stand. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

  • Decline. You have to remember that ths is from Strong Bad's point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. Fizz123
  • Comment Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. Fizz123
  • DECLINE'D! Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. Kiwi
  • I decline thee! *smack* Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. Kvb 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- tomstiff 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know.

Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon


The Poopsmith never blinks.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon -- tomstiff 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wall Markings

According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon -- tomstiff 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2

Fifty frickin' wings

The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

  • Neutral I've never head of Fricker's. →evin290 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.Donny vs Universe
  • Accept It doesn't get any clearer than this.
  • Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
  • Accept I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --BegyLips
  • Accept! However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
  • Revise A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. Eujensc 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). ISlayedTheKerrek 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --Beatfox 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. Here's a Frickin' link!
  • Weak accept. It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --Trogga 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --clashman 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Decline, the word "frickin'" used before "wings" means nothing to me. Are there even Frickers' in Antlanta?

Teen Girl Squad Issue 4

Buck Privates

The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film Buck Privates.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4 -- tomstiff 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Decemberween Teen Girl Squad


Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad -- tomstiff 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

Fatty's Big Chance

Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the Goonland character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

  • Decline. The names look the same. The characters do not. -- tomstiff 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this). Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --Beatfox 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Big Fat Decline. --Beatfox 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. Hup Hup, Decline Dasrik 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I remember reading TBC don't watch other flash cartoons. I'll put a link to the interview here as soon as I find it. Kvb 14:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Just the word Fatty, I don't think so.

The Intercom

The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to Saved by the Bell, where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8 -- tomstiff 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Soofa Group?

The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup ( At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8 -- tomstiff 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8 -- tomstiff 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fender Guitars

During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

  • Rewrite. The machine heads (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. --
  • Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
  • badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. ISlayedTheKerrek
    • kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
      • anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. Dasrik 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..

BTW, Declined --User: Lappy 486

The Reddest Radish

Back Buttons

The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the Telebision Toons Menu, which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

  • Decline ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the Telebision Toons Menu page and not on the specific toon pages. --TheEggman 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept. Why not? --Trogga 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Forward referencing # 1

Homestar called Strong Bad Stinkoman. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his 20X6 counterpart in japanese cartoon.

VERDICT This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:island -- tomstiff 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Forward Referencing #2

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until interview.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:island -- tomstiff 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

2 years

Strong Sad a Strongbadian

According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of Strongbadia.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:2 years. -- tomstiff 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS

The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

VERDICT: This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:2 years -- tomstiff 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Homestar Presents: Presents

Length Of Grabbo Arm

The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

  • First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. -- 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Revise and accept Not in Alaska.
  • Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~
    • You know alot about clocks.
  • Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
  • Rewrite To something like:
  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
    • Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Third...I mean.. Second. --RPharazon
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..Donny vs Universe
  • Accept However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
  • Decline I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --TheEggman 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does. Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. Fizz123(I'm not logged in.)
  • Accept. Super Sam 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, cwap! It's Declined! Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... User: Lappy 486

Grabbo Arm Sound

Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in car.

Verdict: After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly Accepted by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on Homestar Presents: Presents, while the discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. --acekirby13 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in caper.

  • Decline. It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. -- 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite it and put up a page for Homestar's Bunny Slippers in the clothing category of the Items page. --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Accept Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd-- 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on rock opera should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --TheEggman 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept-- User: Lappy 486

Blade man

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from personal favorites.

  • Decline. This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
    • You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. Kamek 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - Gydea
  • Neutral. It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. Kamek 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
  • Using a rusty stake knife does not make him a blade man, man. Declined man, man. User: Lappy 486

Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. It's dot com 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in The Best Decemberween Ever, which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --Jay 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Weak Decline. ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in 3 Times Halloween Funjob, as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --TheEggman 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move to Homestar's House. --Trogga 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
    • Comment. You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --TheEggman

Wizard of Oz

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Accept. And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--HeartBurn Kid 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
      • Accept Second'd I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --TheEggman 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Second --Trogga 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
        • Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --Jay 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
    • Decline for the pudgy. What the armless guy said. --Beatfox 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Second I think that is just Homsar-ness. --User:Lappy 486

Beat It

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

VERDICT: By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you go up stairs you are on the second floor

Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

  • True but uninteresting fact 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • decline A tad too obvious. --super orange! 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. Xycho
    • No, it doesn't 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". Rainer
  • Decline. Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
    • 'Comment - Most houses are one-storey. "Most rooms are" I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - Rainer
  • Decline Well EXCUSE ME. Xycho
  • Accept This is interesting because it is here that it's revealed that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even is a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. It's dot com 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Declinio Kvb 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--homestar3.14 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." User: Lappy 486

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

  • Revise. Say that it's similar to the one from replacement. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Revise. It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to replacement's red phone Strong Bad used. thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!
  • Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --Upsilon
  • Revise. Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

It's odd considering...

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor
  • Revise, accept. I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --Ogog
    • Comment Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun Facts here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --TheEggman

"state trooper"

Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song Straight Shooter by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." Terra Rising Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!
  • Accept, but move. If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --TheEggman 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline-pthoo I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. User: Lappy 486


Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See rock opera - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Standing too close to you in Decline --User: Lappy 486

Off-screen typing

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

Verdict: After many weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on animal, and the discussion can be found at Talk:animal. --acekirby13 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.


Baby Doll Crazy Dance

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

VERDICT: This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:animal -- tomstiff 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

  • STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --Jay 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. "Though Strong Bad wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an angelerfish, he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. Fizz to the 123
  • Accept but rewrite I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. -- User: Lappy 486


Real virus?

Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:virus -- tomstiff 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Number 423,827

I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date by the site since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:virus -- tomstiff 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command

  • Accept Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --flashstorm 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --TheEggman 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --User: Lappy 486

Quote of the Day (or so)

Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

  • Decline There, you just said it yourself. Shortly >>AFTER<< the release of this e-mail. Kvb 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

  • Decline. This is a comment, not a fact. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Revise. Strike the second sentence and add a link to Compy 386. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Rewrite. "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --TheEggman 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declination Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--Posted by -erson 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. User: Lappy 486

Shopping for Danger

Blue Laser Babies

The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

  • Decline. It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- tomstiff 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --TheEggman 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • No no no. Rudeboy87 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch

The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

  • Decline. Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- tomstiff 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Dr. Decline. An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --Beatfox 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Disney "Mickey" Logo

All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

  • Weak Accept. I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- tomstiff 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Very Weak Decline Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --Zonath 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Accept, Second I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --the spludge 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
  • Actual Decline. All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.It's dot com 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. I'd agree if just one CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they all have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- tomstiff 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • *sigh* Oh, great. Now I'm undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to Accept.It's dot com 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Definite Accept Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --homestar3.14 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. I mean, I think it's interesting... --Kiwi 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
  • Kevin 'Cline It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads? Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. SP'd
  • Weak Decline. Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) Aurora the Homestar Coder 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise Slightly. "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--rsl12 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I think it is just the shape of the spot. --User: Lappy 486
  • Acceptinated! I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. Kvb 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Cheat Commandos Commercial

For the little 'uns

All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

  • Accept. It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- tomstiff 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • What? Undelete it! Undelete it! Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --Jay 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)



In montage, The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

  • Decline Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --TheEggman 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Ian 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. Posted by: -erson Talk 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --TheEggman 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to ACCEPT. I actually think this fact is a decent one. ISlayedTheKerrek 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment. I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --TheEggman
    • Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. Posted by: -erson Talk 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline I think it is just a joke Strong Bad made up for the montage. He didn't really go out with a wagon fulla pancakes, did he? User: Lappy 486

Strong Sad's Lament

Strong Bad's Lament?

History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on Strong Sad's Lament, and the discussion can be found on Talk:Strong Sad's Lament. --acekirby13 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5

Most Legible?

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said. --VolatileChemical 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

  • Not the first. I know, homsar, homsar. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --VolatileChemical 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline, or severe rewrite. Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --TheEggman 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. Very noteworthy. --Gafaddict 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --THE PAPER 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from Scott of the Sahara...Rewrite! -- tomstiff 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm assuming this message was made in response to homsar to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. GillanTheVillain 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --VolatileChemical 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
    • Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. GillanTheVillain 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!" Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--MrsCommanderson 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite and Accept. Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. Super Sam 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I thought that too, it was really insane. Thumbs Up! --User: Lappy 486

A Jorb Well Done

Strong Sad's Tape

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --VolatileChemical 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

  • Accept. --Gafaddict 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Why was this STUFF'd? It's demonstrably true, and it's something most people wouldn't notice just by watching the 'toon. — It's dot com 20:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • 2nd place. Ding! --Trogga 22:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Answer Unless I'm missing something, it wasn't actually deleted from the 'toon in question - apparently, VC added it directly here. Which is technically how STUFF is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody uses it that way. ;) Anyway, this one is true enough that it could have been directly added and no one would have batted an eye, so Accept. --Jay 05:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Mistah Hippo says Accept! By the way, I use STUFF that way. o.o --Kiwi 18:28, 23 Apr 2005


Thy Dungeonman


Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.

  • Decline Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --Jay 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • (drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. Decline Dasrik 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Peasant's Quest

Two names?

When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

  • Fhqwdlcinds So??? --Jay 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just revise it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in 
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

---erson 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Me Declino Infinito. -- tomstiff 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • REWRITE'D! I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --Kiwi 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • Decline the new one too It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --Jay 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --Kiwi 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
      • Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --Jay 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? ---erson 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --Jay 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
            • We dont know that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? ---erson 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
              • So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --Jay 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
                • Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
                  • Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --Jay 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?---erson 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. Decline. Beatfox 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Yet Another Comment. We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. Kiwi 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. Me llamo decline Dasrik 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Numero Tres. Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --Kiwi 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
  • Comment. Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- tomstiff 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Control Scheme

The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

Verdict: After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to Talk:Stinkoman_20X6. --acekirby13 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ninja Gaiden Levels

Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

VERDICT: After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --ISlayedTheKerrek 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

Verdict: After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to Talk:Stinkoman_20X6. --acekirby13 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

  • Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --Ogog
  • Accept Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --Shadow Hog 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, Decline. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --Joshua 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept & Revise Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -Miss Free Country USA

Stone Fist

When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

  • DeclineSame as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --Ogog
  • Accept Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --Shadow Hog 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept! Extremejon
  • I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? Decline Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
  • Decline Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --Joshua 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second Kvb 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I think it is pretty much already stated. --User: Lappy 486


The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

  • DeclineThere is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline; noted at the top of the page. --Shadow Hog 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. All Your Second Are Belong To Us SP'd
  • Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. Decline Dasrik 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

  • DeclineAside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --Ogog
    • Second Dasrik 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

  • DeclineThis is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And tempo?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --Ogog
    • Comment Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • Decline The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --Joshua 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Big stretch in both cases. And a Comment to Ogog, make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Er, the vote, that is. --Shadow Hog 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

Black Spots

Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

  • Decline Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- Joshua 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Declininated I don't get it. Kiwi 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
  • Allow me I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
  • However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with Decline. --Jay 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? Let's Declining Love Dasrik 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!? --Beatfox 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Accept. I suppose that's interesting. --
  • Rewrite Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- Tim333
    • Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --beanluc
  • Rewrite It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
  • Accept. --Upsilon
  • Decline In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
    • Please sign your vote. --Trogga 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Second the last unsigned vote. Fizzy Again!
  • Decline I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.TakuaKaita600 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Cross-Toon Facts


When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

VERDICT: By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The discussion can be found at the STUFF Archive. --Trogga 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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