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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.


New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails


Trodgor was a Motorhead

The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

  • Weak decline. Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →evin290 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

rock opera


Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from some kinda robot, the second from homsar, and so forth.

  • I put this here from the fun facts on the other page because I don't believe this is true. After watching the e-mail, it shows Strong Sad saying "Internet" way too early to have the e-mails be in order. If someone could provide proof that the fact is actually true, please do so. Until then I feel it should be here. BegyLips 10:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)BegyLips
    • I did some research into it. I copied and pasted the entire length of the rock opera into an e-mail window, then scanned every e-mail transcript looking for the words. I found 123 of the words in the actual emails, with the other two in Easter Eggs. Considering that the Easter Eggs are part of the e-mail, those count. Therefore, that is 125 words, IN ORDER, from 125 seperate emails. The statement is true. Accept. ISlayedTheKerrek12:02, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Then how come when Strong Sad says "Internet" (from Virus), there are WAY more than 7 words after that? That would show the e-mails are not in order. BegyLips 13:06, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)Begylips
      • Accept Because it's NOT from virus!!! Haven't you checked the rock opera context? Strong Sad saying "Internet" comes from sibbie; "Some song I downloaded off the Internet." --Jay 13:13, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Ok fine, JAY. If I had known internet came up in another e-mail, from Strong Sad himself, I wouldn't have said that. Obviously I'm not as devoted to this as you are. BegyLips 14:08, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)BegyLips
        • It's always nice to check your facts before you remove something because you think it might be wrong. --Jay 14:10, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Weak accept. I mean, it's true and it might be important to know. →evin290 12:12, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • The word that was came from virus wasn't Internet. It was "equals." You have to look over each word, in the order they came into the song, then scan the email transcripts (INCLUDING EGGS) in order to find the words. ISlayedTheKerrek
  • Accept, since it's true. Now can we WAIT a while for voting to finish before we put it back in, even if it's swaying toward Accept? --Shadow Hog 18:53, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Decline Not to be a wet blanket but its kind of implied that they're going in order with these (the early parts of the song show the Tandy after all). Its also terribly hard to prove unless someone is willing to go through and watch all of the e-mails and point out which word is used where.--Donny vs Universe
    • Thing is, we've actually gone and done just that. See the "rock opera context" link above for more info. --Shadow Hog 21:56, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

Another brick in the wall

At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. MajorB 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

  • Decline. Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See A Decemberween Pageant) →evin290 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). MajorB 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
        • did I miss that? 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

Where's The Cheat?

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

Note: this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "Where The Cheat Is At?". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.

  • Decline and also, who cares?! And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! Donny vs Universe
  • Decline - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --Shadow Hog 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

Everybody Knows It

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.

  • Weak decline. Has there ever been any evidence that homestar really doesn't wear shoes? I think those are his shoes. Whatever. If you gimme any proof that Homestar doesn't wear shoes, I'll switch my answer. →evin290 06:35, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. I don't think the slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents are evidence one way or the other, since it could be argued that those are being worn over his shoes/feet, but on the other hand I've never seen anything to indicate that Homestar's shoes are his feet. -Alun Clewe 15:36, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Homestar wears slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents. Therefore his shoes are just shoes. →Star4ever 12:06, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Second. What does this have to do with the 'Everybody Knows It' cartoon, anyway? kerrek slaya 14:37, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)kerrek_slaya
    • At the end, Homestar says something about the cheat putting dog food in his shoes →evin290 15:40, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Decline In New Boots when Homestar comes on, he askes for his shoe, and is wearing a sock. However, it is cheat made, so there is some question.--Saddy 17:56, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Also, if the cheat gave strong Bad underwears, ya never know.

time capsule

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

  • Decline I don’t see the connection. The gross old wig looks way different from the Cobain wig. --The Pardack
    • Second'd.evin290 20:37, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second -Alun Clewe 04:34, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • I'll Second that till i cant Second it no more. Just because you WANT to put a fun fact doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. kerrek slaya 14:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)kerrek_slaya

secret recipes

Pamcakes and Pimecones

Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in montage. Neutral. I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →evin290 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

Bumdumbourge and Totalslava

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

  • Decline. Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. ISlayedTheKerrek
    • Second The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --Jay 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... Second. --Shadow Hog 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

Strong Bad's Poopaw

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

  • Decline This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote. We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*. Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --TheEggman 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --Donny vs Universe
  • Decline "Any other relatives besides Strong Sad"? What about Strong Mad? Even if the "fact" were revised to mention Strong Mad along with Strong Sad, though, it still wouldn't be noteworthy enough to be worth accepting. --Alun Clewe 04:07, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second.evin290 13:00, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

crazy cartoon

Eh! Steve

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, kids' book .

  • Decline. Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →evin290 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in island spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --Shadow Hog 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Revise, Accept. You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
    • Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --Shadow Hog 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

The Best Decemberween Ever

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the Astro Lite Game.

no loafing

Car? Not no more.

Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

  • Decline. Just a song. --Upsilon
    • Second. There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --TheEggman 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --Donny vs Universe
    • Second.evin290 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
  • Accept. It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday. It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email. He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
    • Please sign your vote for it to count. --TheEggman 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --Jay 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

Kick the Can


According to Bubs' Yearbook Character Page picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

  • Decline. TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →evin290 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. -- The Real Zajac 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
      • Third. The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
  • Rewrite and Keep. It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. — InterruptorJones[[]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

other days

Tappity Tappity

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

  • Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --Jay 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- The Real Zajac 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
  • Decline. Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky Extremejon
  • Accept. Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →evin290 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). Donny vs Universe
      • Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --Jay 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
        • Comment. I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →evin290 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)


The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)

Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

VERDICT: This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for radio --TheEggman 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)


Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station (WSBD) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

  • Neutral What do you guys think?
  • Accept It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. The Pardack
  • Second! -thatkidsam 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --Upsilon
  • Decline Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". ACupOfCoffee
  • Weak Accept Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --TheEggman 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite and Accept. Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. — InterruptorJones[[]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Terminally Confused Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless

Homestarloween Party


Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.


Beverly Sportsinterviews

Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

  • Decilne. I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. thatkidsam 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept, but weakly The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --Jay 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept, wholeheartedly As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- FortyTwo 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. BegyLips 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. The Pardack 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.Donny vs Universe
  • Decline! Are you serious? There's no way. ISlayedTheKerrek
  • Accept This is what I first thought. KevDude
  • Accept I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --DG 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --BaconSandwich 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--Hysterical Woman 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. - 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)


Awesome Sauce

Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "Awexome Cross"?

  • Decline. I see no connection whatsoever. →evin29015:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline.j to the sag
  • At first, that's what i thought they said. Accept, even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
    • Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --Upsilon
  • Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
    • Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.Are you serious, or just plain stupid? DELETED!-- ISlayedTheKerrek
  • acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
  • Accept. OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to "Awexome Cross".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -Alun Clewe 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)


409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

  • Weak accept. This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →evin290 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline, because it's a little too obvious. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I'm British, I didn't know. -- Mithent 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. User:Rainer
    • Comment Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →evin290 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Accept It very clearly is a reference to Formula 409. (Clorox is just the company that makes that product.) As others have said, this reference is so obvious to U.S. residents it might not be worth mentioning, except that apparently Formula 409 is unfamiliar to those outside the U.S. so the fact may be worth accepting for their benefit. -Alun Clewe 04:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Verified Decline In the commentary of Funny on the DVD, TBC says that there actually IS a cleaner called Awesome. I've used it, too. -- 23:58, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Er...presumably this was intended in reference to "Awesome Sauce" above, and not to "409"? In which case, I don't see how this "verifies" anything; as I said in my reply there, the fact that there is a real cleaner called "Awesome" doesn't necessarily mean the "Sauce" wasn't added as a reference (though I admit of course it doesn't necessarily mean it was, either.) -Alun Clewe 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon

According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

  • Decline. Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.Donny vs Universe
  • accept. Good fact... →j to the sag
  • Accept. I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - Rebochan 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite and move. Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- The Real Zajac 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2

The Hot-b-sey Twins

It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

  • Revise. A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. Donny vs Universe
  • Revise. The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we think he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- FortyTwo 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. Donny vs Universe
  • you guys think about this stuff too much, cant it just be amusing, if only slightly? - badamn_187

Fifty frickin' wings

The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

  • Neutral I've never head of Fricker's. →evin290 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.Donny vs Universe
  • Accept It doesn't get any clearer than this.
  • Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
  • Accept I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --BegyLips
  • Accept! However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
  • Revise A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. Eujensc 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

I've lost my napkin!

The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon.

  • Decline. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) mathgrant 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept A clear reference. Lord Pikachon
  • Decline. A big, big stretch. --Upsilon

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)

At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

VERDICT: This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 --TheEggman 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Guitar -> Shark

The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?

Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --Jay 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --Upsilon
    • Second. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kamek 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) Declineevin290 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
      • Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --Jay 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • So I've been misinformed all along, thx for clearing it up for me.

Fender Guitars

During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

  • Rewrite. The machine heads (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. --
  • Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187

College Radio

What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

  • Decline. Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
    • Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. Kamek 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • second The Lyrical Wondermind 00:04, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --Begylips
  • Decline for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. Kamek 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • accept What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--
    • Second. --Trogga 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --rather dashing

You Big Mouth!

This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

  • Decline. I'm the one who put this one on here. On The Man with the Huge Mouth character page, it clearly says that he is Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --evin290
    • But on the Mrs. So-and-so-erson page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson and Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --Upsilon
      • Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --TheNintenGenius 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
        • Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --Upsilon 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --Jay 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

Math again

"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email virus, in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

  • Decline/Rewrite. I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --FortyTwo 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --BegyLips
      • Second that. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --Upsilon
    • Second. Ian 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kamek 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)


The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

  • I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. That is, Decline for reasons stated above. -- FortyTwo 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - Donny vs Universe
    • If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. — InterruptorJones[[]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.Donny vs Universe
    • Decline for reasons stated above. Kamek 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Makes sense to me-- 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)


The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

  • Decline. It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- FortyTwo 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline., as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").# Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite, accept. I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate.
    • Second It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the prinicpal of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --TheEggman 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)


C. elegans

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism "C. elegans".

VERDICT: After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to Talk:dreamailevin290 07:00, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)


The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to Talk:dreamail --TheEggman 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

The Reddest Radish

Paper Doll Style

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

  • Decline. Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --thatkidsam 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. (Decline) --Jay 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
  • Revise and Accept It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
    • Second -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. Kamek 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral. It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →evin290 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

Back Buttons

The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the Telebision Toons Menu, which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.


Forward referencing # 1

Homestar called Strong Bad Stinkoman. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his 20X6 counterpart in japanese cartoon.

  • Decline Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
  • Accept, since it's a fairly interesting point.
  • Accept This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - tim333
  • Modify, accept. Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --Upsilon
    • Second. -- AgentSeethroo
    • Second Kamek 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --Shadow Hog 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. Donny vs Universe

Forward Referencing #2

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until interview.

  • I would have to say Decline to both of those. TBC probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
    • Second that.
    • Second --PolarBoy 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
    • Second Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
    • Second, but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. Kamek 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Why not? --Trogga 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --Upsilon

2 years

Mormon Missionary

E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

  • Accept. -- thatkidsam 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." -- 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.-- 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... yes. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say accept either way. - SailorHippyGirl
I'm going to have to Accept. Because it's true! And, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --racerx_is_alive 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Accept -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. Kamek 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

Homestar Presents: Presents

Length Of Grabbo Arm

The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --RPharazon Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

  • Revise but Accept This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
  • Decline. Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for flag day and new hands), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- FortyTwo 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

  • First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. -- 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Revise and accept Not in Alaska.
  • Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~
    • You know alot about clocks.
  • Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
  • Rewrite To something like:
  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
    • Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Third...I mean.. Second. --RPharazon
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..Donny vs Universe

Grabbo Arm Sound

Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in car.

  • Accept Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. Although this is a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --evin290 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. -- 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)


  • Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in caper.
  • Decline. It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. -- 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite it and put up a page for Homestar's Bunny Slippers in the clothing category of the Items page. --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Accept Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd-- 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

Blade man

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from personal favorites.

  • Decline. This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
    • You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. Kamek 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral. It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. Kamek 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. It's dot com 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in The Best Decemberween Ever, which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --Jay 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Move to Homestar's House. --Trogga 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

Wizard of Oz

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Accept. And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--HeartBurn Kid 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

Beat It

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and Accept the rest. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--BaconSandwich 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User: added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --Jay 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --BaconSandwich 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

If you go up stairs you are on the second floor

Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

  • True but uninteresting fact 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • decline A tad too obvious. --super orange! 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. Xycho
  • Decline That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". Rainer
  • Decline. Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
    • 'Comment - Most houses are one-storey. "Most rooms are" I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - Rainer
  • Decline Well EXCUSE ME. Xycho
  • Accept This is interesting because it is here that it's revealed that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even is a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. It's dot com 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

  • Revise. Say that it's similar to the one from replacement. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Revise. It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to replacement's red phone Strong Bad used. thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!
  • Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --Upsilon
  • Revise. Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

It's odd considering...

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

  • Decline, if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Accept, Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--James]] (I'm not logged in)
    • Second, I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. Xhycho
    • Second. - Rainer
    • Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Revise and Accept as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second.--Lyzz~
    • Second. It is notable. -- Mithent 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline or Revise. We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's Homestar. He needs no excuse to be confused. --FortyTwo 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept No,No I haven't. Xycho
  • This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --MadEwokHerd 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
  • Decline or Rewrite --Your taking a cartoon too serious.Mr. Sparkle
    • Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --Upsilon
  • Neutral OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. Xhycho

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor

"state trooper"

Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song Straight Shooter by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." Terra Rising Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "I'm a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "Hi, Wonder Mike" in his characters video.) Terra Rising Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

Am I allowed to add this to the main page now? Terra Rising Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

  • Decline-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. PaxMan356 Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
    • Second Yeah. Ingeniousknight Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
    • Second. - SailorHippyGirl
    • Second (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real trouper," with an -ou-, not -oo-. Trouper = one who handles adversity well.) It's dot com 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Neutral If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar. --MadEwokHerd 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --MadEwokHerd 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Janik

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!



Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

  • Accept. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----
  • Decline. It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.

Lappy Startup Screen

The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of Mac OS 8. --codeman38 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

  • Decline. This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- RPharazon
  • Rewrite. If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --oddtodd
  • Shorten and Rewrite. Same as above. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --MadEwokHerd 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Move it. This goes on the Lappy page! --Pianoplayerontheroof

The Price is Right... Again

The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show The Price Is Right.

  • Decline Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --Jay 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.
Thoughts? --oddtodd 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --Anonymous 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Rewrite. This is clearly a reference to The Show. --The Real Zajac 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --Svelt
  • Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
  • Comment. Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --MadEwokHerd 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

Weird laptop

After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

  • Weak decline. This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on Lappy 486, I'll concede. --Upsilon
  • Accept and Move. This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - RPharazon
  • Rephrase and move This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • second— madkayaker[[]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • Second. These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --Svelt
  • Decline because: a) The [Portable] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --ryandesign 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
  • Declare Null and Void. This fact is already stated on the Lappy page. --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Decline-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. Mr. Sparkle
    • There would be no STUFF if not for that. --Upsilon

Off-screen typing

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

  • Neutral Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. Kamek 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Accept ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --TheEggman 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. Tim333
  • Rewrite. How's-about...
Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.
  • Decline I don't even know what they're talking about. --Clever Ben
    • That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --Upsilon
  • Comment. More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --MadEwokHerd 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Baby Doll Crazy Dance

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

  • Accept: Looks good to go
  • Good to go my eye. Decline, unless you can Revise this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --Shadow Hog 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)


Quadratic formula (DECLINED)

The quadratic formula is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to Talk:virus --TheEggman 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)


The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an irrational number, so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

VERDICT: Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --TheEggman 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)

When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "stunt double", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --TheEggman 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)

When this e-mail was posted to, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to Talk:Compy 386 --TheEggman 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)

The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "for kids".

VERDICT: A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --TheEggman 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)

Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of virus. --TheEggman 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

Gilligan's Island?

The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

  • Keep -- Was thinking the same thing. -- olene
  • Decline -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- Kilana
  • Weak Accept. This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →evin290 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --It's dot com
  • Decline. I very much doubt it. --Upsilon

Strong Sad's blog

When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.

  • Decline part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --Jay 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Second --ultragm2003 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

Shopping for Danger

Price Style

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

  • Decline. Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. ISlayedTheKerrek

Reynold's Wrap

Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

  • Accept This is obviously true. -- olene 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
    • Second and possibly Third You just can't "beat the DEET". -- olene 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
  • Severe Decline Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- TheEggman 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
    • Like I said above, so what? There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --TheEggman 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Not only DECLINE but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --Jay 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

Reynold and Ghostbusters

Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to Ghostbusters II.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Keep Only if we can see why. →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep -- Asploder
  • Modify, Accept — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --Svelt
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Comment. This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --MadEwokHerd 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • okay, I'll have a go at it... "Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack parallels the movie Ghostbusters II, where the geeky character Louis attempts to help the team by putting on a spare uniform." The Lyrical Wondermind 15:34, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED)

'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or Cheat Commandos...O's.

VERDICT: Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Speaker sound (DECLINED)

The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail theme park.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Let's Rock and Roll!

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

  • Decline Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --TheEggman 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

Halloween Fairstival

The Haiku Triad Rule

The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

  • Listen squirt, who do you think you are? Because I am a MAJOR LEAGUE haiku writer, and I know for a fact that this "Haiku Triple" rule or whatever, doesn't exist! You want a fun fact, here I will revise your fun fact into a fun fact of my own:
Proposed "Haiku Triad Rule" Fun Fact is the biggest load
of melarkey, ever!  Its author is one of the biggest
doodle-pad Haiku writers ever! Needless to say, the only
thing he/she knows "quite a bit" about is writing half-bit
haikus in a Bat Man Doodle Pad.

Let me be the first to give a vigorous Accept for this newly revised fun fact.

Look, repeating a syllable is not only allowed in a haiku, it is a "literary device" that has contributed to some of the best Haikus ever. I would give you an example, but I don't usually like to release my work before it's been published, especially onto the internet. But since you've basically cornered me into it, here is one of my latest haikus, which will show you how repeating a syllable can be a good idea:

Bee comes buzzing in
Flower flower, buzz buzz buzz
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

Now if you will look carefully there, you'll see that I used the same syllable not just three times in a row, but EIGHT times in a row, and it only makes the poem a better reading experience. Observe and learn. --- 10:34, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

  • Don't even call me a Doodle Pad. Don't even go there. Don't even.
  • Will no-one sign their votes?, that is, Neutral, given that I'm not sure right this second. --Shadow Hog 19:58, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

Shin guards (DECLINED)

Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to Talk:Halloween Fairstival. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

Broken Compy Menu

Large Blank Space (DECLINED)

If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

VERDICT: Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to Talk:Broken Compy Menu. Kamek 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD

The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED)

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

VERDICT: Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD. Kamek 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)


Dan VS. Jerome

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

  • Delete. Already mentioned in the transcript. -- Kamek
  • Accept. Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- ED!smilde 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
  • Very Much Accept It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: Homestar: Except you, Jerome {even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}. --Jay 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --Upsilon
      • What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --Jay 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --Svelt
        • No comparison? How about old comics, where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --Upsilon
          • Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --Svelt
            • I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on old comics. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
    • Second. I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --Chiphead
  • My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to Accept and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. Kamek 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Move to Transcript ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --Svelt
  • This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --MadEwokHerd 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Delete Too obvious for words →evin290 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Delete The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
  • Delete I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
  • Comment and general retraction of votes Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to Neutral. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --Jay 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline or rewrite When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --TheEggman 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail the process, Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --TheEggman

Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True

The Only Time?

This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)

  • Neutral What about mile? Maybe it is, maybe not. --ED!smilde
    • Probably not. Mike does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --acekirby13
  • Neutral, because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --Upsilon
    • Probably Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --Jay 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
        • On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --Upsilon



"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

  • Decline--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. Mr. Sparkle
  • Accept. TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --Trogga 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)


The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

  • Accept. I missed that somehow.. --MadEwokHerd 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. In the transcript. --Upsilon
    • Comment The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --MadEwokHerd 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --Upsilon
  • Slightly Decline The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, in theory, it could be on.


The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in funny

  • Accept. Why not? --Upsilon
  • BALEET! TBC reuse images all the time! →evin290 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →jake-a-roonie 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)


Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

  • Weak Accept: While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -acekirby13
    • It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the montage page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --Jay 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)


Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED)

Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. --TheEggman 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

Biscuit Dough Hands Man

This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

  • Very Weak Decline. Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →evin290 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →jake-a-roonie 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
  • Accept. True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --Upsilon
  • Second. --Trogga 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. I don't care if this fact goes or not, but if it stays, please, please rewrite it. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:37, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

credit card

At Homestarrunner dot net

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

  • Decline I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --Jay 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept - Dingell
  • Accept, maybe revise It IS Homestar's website after of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →jake-a-roonie 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
    • But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --Jay 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --TheEggman 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --Upsilon


"You ever see me in a car? No!"

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.


Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Accept. I suppose that's interesting. --
  • Rewrite Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- Tim333
    • Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --beanluc
  • Rewrite It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
  • Accept. --Upsilon


Cross-Toon Facts


  • When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
    • Decline every last case Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --Jay 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Revise, Accept. Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
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