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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.


New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

The Li'l Brudder Show

Ugly Animation

The animation resembles the work of Klasky Csupo (most famous for Rugrats), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

  • Decline Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is supposed to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --acekirby13 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Declime Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- tomstiff 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Not So Li'l Decline Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. GillanTheVillain 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Withdrawn I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. Lucres 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd! I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also Second all of the above. Cheatachu72 18 Apr 2005
    • Second. He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --Trogga 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


What year is it?

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

VERDICT: This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at Talk:impression. -Upset_Your_Balance 16 Apr 2005

  • ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
    • I think this one is a special case. It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --Jay 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --TheEggman
  • I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -Upset_Your_Balance

dangeresque 3


The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to They Might Be Giants, who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with TBC on several occasions.

  • Decline. Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- tomstiff 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Today's forecast is total crap. When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? Rudeboy87 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "May be"...ugh. Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Accept. This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for nine months. It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's no chance that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me put it in context: in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several Puppet Jams added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, Experimental Film was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they didn't have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — It's dot com 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Lucres 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I think not. Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. Rudeboy87 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →evin290 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be accepted!" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--MrsCommanderson 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --rsl12 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the context of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — It's dot com 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- tomstiff 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Discount Flashback Warehouse

In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.

  • Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants... Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --Jay 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- mibluvr13 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment from original poster: After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad talks like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact rephrased: In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
  • Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? Decriminoted (decline).' ISlayedTheKerrek
  • Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
  • Decline Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of theme park. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Comment One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
  • D3kl1n3!! I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --kerrek slaya 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man! Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before Senor Mortgage. Check yer facts, folks. ---the spludge 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment from original poster: Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
    • Note on the characters: Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who resembles Senor Cardgage. --The Real Zajac 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)


Strong Mad sings

Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

  • Delorted This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. Rudeboy87 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx Delteated Dasrik 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Pointless Strong mad says this A LOT. OWIE!
  • Severe delcine! I mean, decline. Severe. Severe decline warning. I mean, thatkidsam 18:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline!! Oh my god! Strong Mad said "I'M STRONG MAD" in the same tone of voice he said "GARBLEDINA" in the Facts! It has to be a reference!
  • Decline Strong Mad's lines rarely vary.
  • INFINATELY SEVERE DECLINE-erson It sound alot more like a refrence to his own name! Why is it wierd for Strong Mad to introduce himself???? IT ISNT! ---erson 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • -erson, even though I know it's you, SIGN THE VOTE. And that goes for everyone else. In fact, I move that we start deleting unsigned votes. ISlayedTheKerrek 17:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Whoops, did I forget to sign? I keep doing that. Ok, its signed now. Sry.---erson 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Duh. Cedline. Wait... SP'd
  • Dacheated almost beyond all recognition or how I learned to stop worrying and to Decline the bad fun facts-erson. This is not a fun fact exactly. Its a "It could be," anyway. ---the spludge 16:39, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • You -erson theif!!!!! Oh well, at least its gaining popularity.---erson 23:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I can't imagine why, as it was only mildly funny the FIRST time... but hackneyed and annoying from then on. Rudeboy87 14:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline In A Jumping Jack Contest, he says "I am Strong Bad." In this one he just says "I'm Strong Mad. -Miss Free Country USA

spring cleaning


The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

VERDICT: This information has been moved to the DELETED page. The votes have been moved to Talk:spring cleaning


Poetic chops

Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of trochees), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

  • Decline. I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--rsl12 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Wait a Second!! Kvb 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. Sign yer vote!
    • Weak Second to a Strong Accept. -- tomstiff 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • seconding the third Donny vs Universe
      • seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree. AtionSong
        • 20x6ing the 1936 Beatfox 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second'
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
    • Comment There is already a similar fun fact on the page.

Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?

Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player Charles Barkley, the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won American Idol in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

  • Decline. Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --TheEggman 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- but -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with Decline-ing it. --Jay 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --ISlayedTheKerrek 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Comment. A little Googling shows that Kenny Price was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- tomstiff 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- tomstiff 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- mibluvr13 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Round Mound of Decline Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" SP'd
  • Rewrite it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.

Dumpy Dump sat on a wall

Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

  • Decline all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --Jay 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Revise As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -Upset_Your_Balance
    • Second. Aurora the Homestar Coder 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --rsl12 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
  • Accept I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?Theving
    • Uh... no? It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --Jay 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Silly They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.Theving
      • If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --Jay 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. Theving
  • Decline all. It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --TheEggman 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --Jay 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more possible references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --TheEggman 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • DJ Decline There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. Rudeboy87 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. Donny vs Universe
    • And a comment I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — It's dot com 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Rewrite. Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.ISlayedTheKerrek 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- mibluvr13 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. SP

Wite Wrapper

The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as Eminem and Vanilla Ice.

  • Del taco... wait... Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --Jay 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Yeah this one is really stretching.Theving
    • Second to last place. Kvb 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Ding! Rudeboy87 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • ... Decline Dasrik 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline -- tomstiff 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED! -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Decline Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --acekirby13 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. White is the color of his face. --thatkidsam 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--AtionSong
  • Decline plus side note: There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --The Real Zajac 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

English Lesson

(under the quiver(ed) definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).

  • Decline'd Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. Rudeboy87 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- mibluvr13 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • A,B,etc... are not numbers.
      • You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
    • Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. Decline. Beatfox 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm on a Rainbow

Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to Reading Rainbow, the popular 90's children reading show.

  • Decline -- tomstiff 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept/Rewrite I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --NFITC1
  • Decline 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Decline. How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --TheEggman 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. GillanTheVillain 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Heck no at all. This is a stretch and three quarters. Rudeboy87 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. TakuaKaita600 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, Decline Dasrik 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • SEVERE Decline!!! Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --thatkidsam 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be DECLINE'D!!! Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. Beatfox 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • VOTE CHANGE! SECOND! That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that!TakuaKaita600 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline.If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--rsl12 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • My Land! Google does show lots & lots of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite. -- tomstiff 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --The Real Zajac 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
  • Weak Decline I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad vaguely says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- AtionSong 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
  • New Trell You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah SP'd is crazy

Marzipan's Speech Impediment

Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."

  • Accept. I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. Beatfox 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. For once, I think this is legitimate. --TheEggman 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- tomstiff 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- mibluvr13 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --Jay 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --acekirby13 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. Beatfox 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Countercomment Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --Jay 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --Gafaddict 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second with a side of DECLINE! Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. Donny vs Universe
      • Comment Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. Beatfox 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- tomstiff 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept but Move. Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --The Real Zajac 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
  • Comment. Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have something on the page to point out this oddity. Beatfox 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Because someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --Jay 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More Pie, Anyone?

"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in other days.

  • Decline. Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". Beatfox 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- tomstiff 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I can't think of a Decline pun right now Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. SP
  • Decline Hot soup is on my eye!Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. Declinester Dasrik 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --The Real Zajac 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

Chicken Soup for the Soul

One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" book series.

  • AcceptI like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference!Umbertowasted
  • Decline. Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --acekirby13 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I am sure this is an intentional reference.Theving
  • Weak Accept I can see this. --Jay 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --Gafaddict 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept No more a stretch than the For Jerks book referencing the For Dummies ones. Donny vs Universe
    • Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
  • Decline. Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --TheEggman 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • No way, Lucy. Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. Rudeboy87 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! Kvb 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Delete. There's not way that that is a reference. ISlayedTheKerrek 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. Donny vs Universe
  • DELORTED! That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
  • Insert witty DECLINE comment here MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. SP'd
    • Second. Totally unsupported theory. --The Real Zajac 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
  • Accept Definately a reference
    • Sign teh vote! -acekirby13 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • "Definately" not. DECLINED Dasrik 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Inclined to Decline. Beatfox 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--rsl12 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Its a Bird, Its a Plane, its Pie???

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

  • Decline-erson Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.---erson 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh... Decline x999 Dasrik 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Piecline. Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- tomstiff 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

time capsule

Norse mythology

The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.

  • Decline. It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...Decline The_Pardack
  • Decline. Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --TheEggman 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. TakuaKaita600 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must Decrine. As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. Rudeboy87 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept. This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--rsl12 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- The Real Zajac 15:21, 17 Apr 2005


Third Interview

This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" Homsar (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "interview" and he interviewed Homestar in the toon The Interview.

  • Accept. Nice one. hamrodrunner
  • Decline. This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- tomstiff 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --acekirby13 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second Aurora the Homestar Coder 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline to the moon Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. Rudeboy87 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move/revise How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in The Interview and pizzaz." Tom H 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. Declined --TheEggman 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- The Real Zajac 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
  • Decline Nobody cares. Donny vs Universe
  • Severe Decline! First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
  • Declination Nation. No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.TakuaKaita600 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Homestarloween Party

CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight

When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

  • Decline I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --acekirby13 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declinez0rs Didn't we already see this? Dasrik 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Decline. This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- The Real Zajac 15:27, 17 Apr 2005


Not Expecting

Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -TK600

  • I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
    • Where?! --Jay 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
    • {views change} That's not even slightly like proof. Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • Agreed An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --Jay 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
    • Not Proof'd' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? Kvb 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
  • Decline Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. Donny vs Universe
  • Oh, so you're sayin' I'm lyin', huh? Well I'm not...what would I put it up for? Publicity? I didn't give my name OR his. Well, whatever. I give up. For now. But I'm just tryin' to say it wasn't based on the I love you virus is all. I dont care about any of the other stuff. It's just what's there now is an incorrect statement, and I want people to know the truth is all-TakuaKaita600
  • Anyone could claim to have sent any paticular e-mail. We're not saying you're lying, we're saying that you're going to be 1100hard up to prove it %100. For now? This isn't your website, you can't force people to accept a "fact" that has been reasonably rejected. Donny vs Universe
  • Compromise. There is an item in the Remarks section that begins with "It's been theorized that..." Isn't that what this is: another theory? Under the first remark, why can't there be another entry that reads, "Additionally, a person claiming (but not proven) to be the fhqwhgads states to have only sent the email as a joke, and that he or she was not trying to spoof a virus." It's interesting, relevant, and as written it's a fact. — It's dot com 15:54, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Hey, that's a great idea! I was wondering if that woould work myself... Hey, everyone...I'ma edit this and then maybe can we revote? -TK
    • Decline Compromise I say remove the theory from the Remarks section. It's just as speculative -- tomstiff 16:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • You're referring to something else. -TK
      • Reverted back to original STUFF. If we're gonna do that, this one needs to be closed and a new one created! -- tomstiff 16:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
        • That's reasonable, but can we seriously try that? Please? -TK
  • Decline I'm not convinced that an AIM User Name is enough to prove that that person is Fhqwhgads. Like Jay, I'm not saying you're lying, I just don't think it's enough solid proof. --acekirby13 22:02, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • This entire thing has already been discontinued. ^_^-TK
      • Discontinued? The post before mine was still voting, and it was only a day ago. I believe that the voting stops when The Eggman closes it. --acekirby13 01:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • While I'm flattered that I seem to have become the finish line for voting on these, it's not officially my job (though I don't mind doing it from time to time). Also, I've been going by the Talk-page-accepted system of closing after no less than 2 weeks (except in a few select cases, such as the "order" issue in Rock Opera and a few others that were just inane). Also, This is my vote for a DECLINE --TheEggman 03:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline.I feel sympathy for your plight TK. If someone wants attention, pretending to be fhqwhgads seems like a strange way to do it. All that being said, the info you provided isn't that much fun. Is there more of a story behind it? I mean, most people who e-mail strong bad do it as a joke, trying to be funny, and not because they have some urgent request or some strong passionate need to communicate something. Is the real fhqwhgads interesting? What's his motivation in life? What's his angle? If you can get some juicy facts like this, I would be on your side 100%.--rsl12 16:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Then don't you mean "revise?" But w/e. Thanks. PS, could someone PLEASE close this?! I don't even want to think about it anymore...TakuaKaita600 20:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The joke theory

- (An outcome of "Not Expecting") - It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -TakuaKaita600 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

  • Still Decline Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting all such claims; we're only concerned here with this case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it doesn't set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with the fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — It's dot com 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
  • Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline-erson Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.---erson 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)TakuaKaita600 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still Decline. ---erson 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --Gafaddict 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. TakuaKaita600
    • Comment. The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--homestar3.14 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- tomstiff 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Ren & Stimpy XR

The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

  • Decline. Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --Trogga 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Weak Second. Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... the spludge 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
  • decline.exe Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. Rudeboy87 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • DOUBLE DECLINE!!! Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . Cheatachu72

the show

Homestar's "Arms"

Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

  • Comment. I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? Aurora the Homestar Coder 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Decline. Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. Aurora the Homestar Coder 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Accept. In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --rsl12 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • time capsule is another example. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--rsl12 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline! "Another one of those times"? For shame! --acekirby13 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? Donny vs Universe
  • Accept This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
  • F-- Does everything in the world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. Rudeboy87 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Dcline I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. Kvb 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- Joshua 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. Dasrik 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Revise, move This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. PolarBoy 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not a common occurence. Only in two episodes (to my knowledge) has this been an issue: this one and time capsule. It wasn't obvious to me on watching either episode, and I'm glad someone is pointing this out!--rsl12 16:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Buleeted May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. OWIE!
    • Second. Too technical. But people, please stop picking on him. You're being a little harsh. TakuaKaita600 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment We SHOULD mention on Marzipan's character page that she looks like a broom, and on Strong Bad's page that he types with boxing gloves on, and on Homestar's page that he has no arms, etc. Just because these are issues/questions that TBC refuses to explain (yet), doesn't make issues like Homestar's strange arm-mechanics unworthy of mention. The proposed fun fact is centrally relevant to one of the main mysteries on the site. It also sheds new light on the issue by refuting a common interpretation (that Homestar has two invisible arms). It's less similar to "Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on" as it is to "Strong bad typing with boxing gloves on and without touching the keyboard". It adds a new layer to an age-old Homestar Runner question. - Dingell
  • Homestar has no arms, invisible or other wise. He simply manipulates objects. Nobody knows how, because thats the joke. Trying to apply logic to it only ruins the fun.Donny vs Universe
    • Accept- it seems that this is reasonable. computerdude33
    • Accept When I see Homestar, I presume that if he has ANY "Invisible Arms", He would have two. --Bonk 20:21, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline. Donny, I couldn't have said it any better. High-ball! --Beatfox 04:52, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Marzipan's Parasol

Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the talk page of suntan.

local news


"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :

(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:local news -- tomstiff 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


"Tough Guys"?

This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.

  • Revise: This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --Clever Ben
    • Comment. I assume this is an Accept. Please sign your vote! -- tomstiff 05 Apr 2005
  • Comment. This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I would change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- tomstiff 05 Apr 2005
    • Comment. But this is the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --Gafaddict 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. It's currently the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the first reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- tomstiff 05 Apr 2005
    • Comment. In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- tomstiff 05 Apr 2005
  • Comment:I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --Clever Ben
    • Comment. A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- tomstiff 05 Apr 2005
  • Accept. I think it's fine the way it is. Decline. Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. Aurora the Homestar Coder 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The ONLY reference? What about in the new Homestar Talker? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called "he" many times throughout the site. Fizz123
    • Response Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." Rudeboy87 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --TheEggman 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second --Trogga 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Comment Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. Fizz123
  • Accept with Revisions This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
  • Decline If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. Donny vs Universe
  • Revise. A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- tomstiff 08 Apr 2005
    • Twond Rudeboy87 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. And am I the only one to think "Bad Dudes" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --Shadow Hog 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Not really. But the part about it being the only reference to homosexuality might be OK.TakuaKaita600 15:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Revise and Accept-erson As a queer myself, I feel that the last section is totally acceptable. As a tough guy, Strong Bad would have been expected to respond with aggression, rudness, etc... as other "tough guys" I know have. However, he acted out of what was expected of him, and I think that makes it interesting and acceptable. Just change "only" to "first" and you're good to go.---erson 12:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Very Second. P.S. I'm so proud of SB for handling it maturely!!! -Miss Free Country USA
  • Decline. If, for some reason, an handicapped character was introduced in a cartoon(perhaps a character without arms?), would it be a fun fact to say, "this is the first time a handicapped character has appeared"? As Bob Marley says, "until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes..."--rsl12 17:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Severe Decline (a) It's not the only reference to homosexuality on the site, as noted above. (b) Saying that Strong Bad handled it "maturely" is an opinion... people in general do sometimes tend to be offended when their names are contorted into names of the opposite gender. (c) Fun Facts should be objective; it's not a place to judge the characters' morality, so the word "thankfully" has no place here... though I do agree with your moral evaluation in this case. - Dingell PAY PLUS!

Hom Sar Ref

On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --SgtKeeling

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Trial Game origin

The trial game is based upon the Scrolling Shooter Games Menu - the trial game's Flash file contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

False Advertising

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Special Appearance

Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at PAY PLUS!.

Whats Her Face's lack of appearance

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at PAY PLUS! -- tomstiff 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like morning routine.

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to PAY PLUS! --acekirby13 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tall homestar?

In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

  • Infinite Decline. Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? ISlayedTheKerrek 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. Dasrik 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--rsl12 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Two-foot second SP'd
  • Accept. It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
  • Del Taco Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? Rudeboy87 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. ISlayedTheKerrek 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. Suicune64 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Updated for the 90's

Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

  • Decline - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • Comment But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- Donny vs Universe
  • Comment Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today. 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. Donny vs Universe
  • Comment Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- Homestar Runnar 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • Decline, and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second --acekirby13 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. But "crap" is a little harsh. TakuaKaita600 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Duh. Did you even understand this e-mail? SP'd

Mr. Shmallow (toon)


Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

VERDICT: This fact was been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon). -- tomstiff 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

long pants

X-Pensive Winos

The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards' solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

  • Decline. Stretchy "might be" reference. --TheEggman 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --Donny vs Universe
  • Decline Dasrik 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • X-Pensive Decline. Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. Beatfox 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Rodeo Hot Dogs

"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

  • Decline. It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --TheEggman 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Just read the Oscar Meyer company history looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- tomstiff 08 Apr 2005
  • decline I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
  • Decline on two fronts.' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). ISlayedTheKerrek 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • A link would have been nice. Decline Dasrik 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

  • Weak Decline Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --TheEggman 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to Severe Decline. --TheEggman 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment.The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
  • Accept. I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --Joshua 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --TheEggman 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- tomstiff 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Homestar Over Correction Fluid

When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

  • Weak Accept, but Move Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --TheEggman 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). Donny vs Universe
    • Second. --mibluvr13 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Accept I agree with Donnny and at is why I Accept. Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? Theving
  • accept When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--mk5dude 1 April 2005
  • Decline My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--Bonk 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Then how did become pixalated? --Trogga 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Strong Decline. Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -Upset_Your_Balance
  • Decline the Declines (AKA accept) This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! TakuaKaita600 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... Dasrik 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bedroom Window

Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in Homestar Presents: Presents, but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --VolatileChemical 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

  • Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. Rudeboy87 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --homestar3.14 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
    • Revise, accept It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in Homestar Presents: Presents. However, in
the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
  • Decline He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --sninky-chan 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
    • Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. Rudeboy87 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
  • DECLINE, and I have proof. Watch the toon. When we first see Homestar in bed, we can't see the window. After he sits up, the camera moves, and lo and behold there the window is. — It's dot com 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
      • The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From The American Heritage Dictionary: A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, but), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
      • Technically, beginning a sentence with however is not wrong either. But it is poor style. — It's dot com 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Breaking the Lappy

Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in couch patch.

  • Decline. First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — It's dot com 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second. The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • I've carefully set aside the time for declining this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. Rudeboy87 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline.tomstiff 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Rewrite, then accept. You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.TakuaKaita600 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

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Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

  • Decline If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --the spludge 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
  • Revise and Accept. It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — It's dot com 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
    • Second Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --Joshua 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from Kevin Smith's movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

  • Decline. I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- tomstiff 25 Mar 2005
  • Revise. Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. Aurora Szalinski 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. --Trogga 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.Theving
    • Comment. My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- tomstiff 25 Mar 2005
    • Second Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --Jay 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. Nevrmore 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. Donny vs Universe
    • I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--rsl12 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - Alun Clewe 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
  • Second - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. - Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -Upset_Your_Balance

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Forgotten Lie

Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.

  • Decline. Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in huttah! -Walking Armless
  • Rewrite and accept. The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."TakuaKaita600 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That A Ghost

Sickly Sam's lucky day

This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".

  • Neutral I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --acekirby13 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
  • Decline I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? Donny vs Universe
    • Comment Sickly Sam was never in Kick the Can. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in Mr. Shmallow (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in Ballad of The Sneak (if that counts). --Trogga 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --tomstiff 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite and Accept I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --acekirby13
    • Second--rsl12 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --Trogga 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Slightly We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
    • 1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --Trogga 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so Rewrite and accept --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2.

  • BACLINED! Wait, no... OR it could be a reference to cheat talk. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --Jay 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Well, Cory from cheat talk was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --VolatileChemical 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --Jay 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
  • Most Likely Declined Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? Dasrik 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

best thing

Who is John Bozar?

Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of Mr. Mxyzptlk, a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

He also bears a resemblance to the Great Gazoo from The Flintstones.
He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show Mighty Max called Dr. Zygote, who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.
He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.
He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character Q from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.
  • Keep Mr. Mxyzptlk and The Great Gazoo. Scrap the rest. -- tomstiff 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --Jay 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Albi refs Abdi??

Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, some kinda robot, who was named Abdi.

  • Decline. Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second. -Walking Armless
    • Threecond. Beatfox 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • ...urge to kill...rising... Decline Dasrik 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Guitar throw refs invisibility??

When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to invisibility. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken Tandy 400 and replaces it with the Compy 386.

  • Decline. Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Go TheEggman!! Uh... I mean Second! Kvb 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh please... are you surfing randomly looking for things to correlate? Decline! Dasrik 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

rrll == grrl ??

The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "grrl."

  • Decline. The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • ¡Second! Kvb 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second. - tomstiff 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Segundo. Beatfox 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. Decline Dasrik 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a double-stroke roll, which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

  • Decline This is more likely a variation of "grrl." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. Svelt 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- tomstiff 04 Apr 2005
  • Accept? I dunno, this struck me as kinda obvious at first, seeing how the entire e-mail deals with music... SP

guitar "Space Gary" tosses

It's the same guitar shown in Puppet Time, which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad. Terra Rising 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. Terra Rising 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the best thing page. Discussion moved to talk:best thing --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

A DV-what?

From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the best thing page. Discussion moved to talk:best thing --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Alternative vs. Hair Metal

The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.

  • Revise. A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. ISlayedTheKerrek 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' -- 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise! English, please? --Aussie Evil 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --TheEggman 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

The Claw

One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the Kick the Cheat Demo.

VERDICT: This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the best thing page. Discussion moved to talk:best thing --TheEggman 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Background Goof

When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

  • Comment: I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --Shadow Hog 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite and Move, then Accept Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --acekirby13 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Absolutely not! References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Rewrite. This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --TheEggman 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. You have the clear backbone for a Fun Fact, but it needs severe rewording and needs to be a little less derogatory. (sp?)TakuaKaita600 20:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. It's not a Goof, because it was on purpose. I'd call it an Explanation. Don't mention a specific cartoon, as it fits the whole genre. — It's dot com 22:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Babylon 5

"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to Encounter at Farpoint (the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation) and the popular science-fiction show Babylon 5. (only the part in bold is in question)

  • Accept: Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — It's dot com 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second tomstiff 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
    • Comment It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. tomstiff 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline: it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.Keab42
    • Second Aurora Szalinski 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Weak Third Changing my vote from straight Accept, only because I noticed that it was the B5 reference that was in question. The ST:TNG reference is still solid, being that they're both the pilot/first episodes of T.V. shows that take place in outer space. --TheEggman 07:14, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Until next week...

This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:colonization -- tomstiff 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Trodgor was a Motorhead

The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

rock opera

Definitely Maybe? Yes? No!

"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

Verdict: After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to Talk:rock opera. --acekirby13 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sender's parents

Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in animal about Spud Jr.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera -- tomstiff 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to Citizen Kane and the famous "Rosebud."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pizza Pizzazz

The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from some kinda robot, the second from homsar, and so forth.

VERDICT: This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the rock opera page. --TheEggman 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

Another brick in the wall

At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. MajorB 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

  • Decline. Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See A Decemberween Pageant) →evin290 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). MajorB 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
        • did I miss that? 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Comment Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --acekirby13 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

Where's The Cheat?

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

Note: this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "Where The Cheat Is At?". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.

  • Decline and also, who cares?! And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! Donny vs Universe
  • Decline - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --Shadow Hog 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second'devin290 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • I'll tone you down my lord! Donny vs Universe
      • CommentJust to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the rudest words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, PLEASE . If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
      • Comment Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. Donny vs Universe
        • To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being harsh to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --Shadow Hog 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
        • To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. Donny vs Universe
  • EXTREME DECLINE!!! This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.-- 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --Trogga 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Unadulterated Decline Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
  • The Klein. It's just a title effect. Besides, this doesn't give us any new information or insights. Beatfox 23:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You killed Pom-Pom!

When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

  • Decline "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --acekirby13 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Unmatchable Decline Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
  • Delcine. -- tomstiff 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... Decline Dasrik 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

secret recipes

Pamcakes and Pimecones

Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in montage.

  • Neutral. I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →evin290 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Reasonable, I guess... --Joshua 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second --Trogga 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;The Pardack
    • Comment This is not always true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --NFITC1 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
    • Comment If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --Alun Clewe 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Strong Decline Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
    • He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --Trogga 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? Kvb 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Comment Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Accurate, but not notable. -- tomstiff 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move? Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--rsl12 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --Jay 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bumdumbourge and Totalslava

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

  • Decline. Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. ISlayedTheKerrek
    • Second The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --Jay 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... Second. --Shadow Hog 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --acekirby13 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • ...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. acekirby13 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! ISlayedTheKerrek 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
        • Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. homestar3.14 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
          • Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.ISlayedTheKerrek 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
            • Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --acekirby13 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
              • Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. ISlayedTheKerrek 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- tomstiff 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --acekirby13 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. I thought if a vote wasn't closed, then it was ... well ... open! -- tomstiff 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Woah. Isn't what brings this community together the laughter and enjoyment that homestar runner gives us? If you want to play the intellectual superiority game, why don't you go over to the MENSA wiki?--rsl12 18:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Are you talkin' to me? -- tomstiff 19:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment.Nope, I was talking to Islayedthekerrek. No manners at all. Sorry for not making it clearer.--rsl12 18:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Sorry tomstiff, I just want to forget this one, but the fact HAS been changed already, so if you really hate this one, then STUFF the new version. --acekirby13 20:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I don't hate it ... at least not yet ... JOKE! I didn't realize it had been "closed" until after I voted. My point is ... if it's closed then why is it still open? To paraphrase a vote much further up the page It ain't closed until The Eggman closes it. And with that, let me re-unofficially close what had been unofficially closed. -- tomstiff 20:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Lol Thanks for making me look like a fool, man by quoting me. Naw, seriously, I was just angry at myself for making such a dumb fun fact. -acekirby13 20:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • D'oh! I had no idea I was quoting you. Any fool-making was purely accidental! Let's get this thing closed before more hilarity ensues! Yoo hoo! The Eggman! Over here! -- tomstiff 21:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Too Late! The hilarity be ensuing already! I was just kidding when I said you made me look like a fool, though... '_' -acekirby13 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm here... and getting to it... I just did a huge number on the finished ones up through Best Thing the other night. I'll get from Rock Opera on in the next day or so - been busy with non-H*R stuff... (I know, I know, heaven forbid...) --TheEggman 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Best Decemberween Ever

The Brethren

This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever -- tomstiff 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kick the Can


According to Bubs' Yearbook Character Page picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk: Kick the Can -- tomstiff 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

other days

Tappity Tappity

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

  • Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --Jay 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- The Real Zajac 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
  • Decline. Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky Extremejon
  • Accept. Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →evin290 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). Donny vs Universe
      • Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --Jay 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
        • Comment. I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →evin290 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline! On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --Aussie Evil 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -acekirby13
  • Decline, If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --flashstorm 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. acekirby13
    • Did now --flashstorm 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--rsl12 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept! Good enough for me. Kvb 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Pizzle the Nizzle

The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

  • Decline. Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --rsl12 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. Evangelical preaching? Huh? -- tomstiff 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Actually, no. Decline. Dasrik 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. I know I'm prolly in the minority here, but it's what I thought of when I heard the line for the first time. -- tomstiff 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


German Radio?

Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

VERDICT: This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:radio -- tomstiff 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)

Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

VERDICT: This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for radio --TheEggman 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)


Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station (WSBD) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at Talk:radio -- tomstiff 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

WSBD in Ohio

There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:radio -- tomstiff 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Beverly Sportsinterviews

Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the origins page. --TheEggman 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. - 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
  • Accept, um, sorta In the Strong Bad Email Band Names, Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
  • Accept Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.Fizz123

Señor & Mr.Bland

Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of Marshmallow's Last Stand. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

  • Decline. You have to remember that ths is from Strong Bad's point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. Fizz123
  • Comment Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. Fizz123
  • DECLINE'D! Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. Kiwi



409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to funny --TheEggman 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon


The Poopsmith never blinks.

  • Decline Do I really need to say why? The_Pardack
    • Second Who cares if he never blinks? mk5dude
      • Third I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -acekirby13
  • Comment Actually Homestar blinks, quite frequently, I might add. Pop tire 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --acekirby13 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on The Poopsmith character page.

Wall Markings

According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

  • Decline. Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • accept. Good fact... →j to the sag
  • Accept. I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - Rebochan 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite and move. Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- The Real Zajac 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
  • Accept. Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2

Fifty frickin' wings

The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

  • Neutral I've never head of Fricker's. →evin290 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.Donny vs Universe
  • Accept It doesn't get any clearer than this.
  • Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
  • Accept I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --BegyLips
  • Accept! However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
  • Revise A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. Eujensc 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). ISlayedTheKerrek 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Weak accept. It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --Trogga 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --clashman 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 4

Buck Privates

The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film Buck Privates.

  • Decline. I've never seen Buck Privates but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- tomstiff 24 Mar 2004
    • Second Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. Kvb 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Trogga 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Decemberween Teen Girl Squad


Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

  • Decline. But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- tomstiff 24 Mar 2005
  • Decline. Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
    • A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still Decline.---erson 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. Aurora Szalinski 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. Dasrik 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless
  • Decline... They probably just took every coffee shop term that sounded good and blended them together. SP

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

The Intercom

The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to Saved by the Bell, where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

  • Decline. This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- tomstiff 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. TBC watch SBTB. --Trogga 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. Kvb 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

Soofa Group?

The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup ( At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

  • Decline. Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- tomstiff 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --acekirby13 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • Third'd I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. Kvb 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. Dasrik 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)


In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

  • Decline. This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --TheEggman 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second -- tomstiff 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
    • Third -- Kiwi 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
  • Dcln Dasrik 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)

At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

VERDICT: This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 --TheEggman 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

Fender Guitars

During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

  • Rewrite. The machine heads (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. --
  • Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
  • badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. ISlayedTheKerrek

College Radio

What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

VERDICT: This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 page in this form. --TheEggman 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

The Reddest Radish

Back Buttons

The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the Telebision Toons Menu, which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

  • Decline ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the Telebision Toons Menu page and not on the specific toon pages. --TheEggman 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept. Why not? --Trogga 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Forward referencing # 1

Homestar called Strong Bad Stinkoman. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his 20X6 counterpart in japanese cartoon.

  • Decline Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
  • Accept, since it's a fairly interesting point.
  • Accept This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - tim333
  • Modify, accept. Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --Upsilon
    • Second. -- AgentSeethroo
    • Second Kamek 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --Shadow Hog 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • The One Second... TO RULE THEM ALL!!! Tom H 21:41, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. Donny vs Universe
    • Comment. I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- tomstiff 31 Mar 2005
  • Accept. This is important enough to warrant an entry. Dasrik 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • 30 Seconds before impact! Kvb 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Forward Referencing #2

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until interview.

  • I would have to say Decline to both of those. TBC probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
    • Second that.
    • Second --PolarBoy 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
    • Second Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
    • Second, but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. Kamek 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --tomstiff 31 Mar 2005
  • Accept. Why not? --Trogga 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --Upsilon
  • The Cline. This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". Kvb 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

2 years

Mormon Missionary

E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

VERDICT: After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of 2 years and the discussion is archived on the talk:2 years page. --TheEggman 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Strong Sad a Strongbadian

According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of Strongbadia.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:2 years. -- tomstiff 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS

The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

  • Neutral I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --Trogga 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Weak decline - needs severe rewrite This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --TheEggman 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --acekirby13 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --Jay 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Decline Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
  • Comment In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
    • How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --Jay 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • So? In any case, Patsy Decline Dasrik 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Accept I was about to decline this one until that last comment... I mean, if Harry Potter can make a Dr. Who reference, why not TBC? And if TBC can make a Dr. Who reference, why can't they make a reference to Peanuts, Oscar the Grouch, Spongebob, Stick Stickley, The Fresh Prince, Rocky III, and whoever else listed above has a roomy house.

Homestar Presents: Presents

Length Of Grabbo Arm

The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

  • First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. -- 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Revise and accept Not in Alaska.
  • Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~
    • You know alot about clocks.
  • Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
  • Rewrite To something like:
  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
    • Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Third...I mean.. Second. --RPharazon
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..Donny vs Universe
  • Accept However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
  • Decline I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --TheEggman 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does. Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. Fizz123(I'm not logged in.)

Grabbo Arm Sound

Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in car.

  • Accept Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. Although this is a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --evin290 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. -- 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • FunFact=very yes. I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. TakuaKaita600 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...


  • Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in caper.
  • Decline. It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. -- 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite it and put up a page for Homestar's Bunny Slippers in the clothing category of the Items page. --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Accept Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd-- 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on rock opera should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --TheEggman 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

Blade man

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from personal favorites.

  • Decline. This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
    • You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. Kamek 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - Gydea
  • Neutral. It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. Kamek 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. It's dot com 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in The Best Decemberween Ever, which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --Jay 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Weak Decline. ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in 3 Times Halloween Funjob, as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --TheEggman 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move to Homestar's House. --Trogga 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
    • Comment. You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --TheEggman

Wizard of Oz

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. -- 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Accept. And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--HeartBurn Kid 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
      • Accept Second'd I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --TheEggman 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Second --Trogga 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
        • Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --Jay 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

Beat It

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

VERDICT: By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you go up stairs you are on the second floor

Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

  • True but uninteresting fact 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • decline A tad too obvious. --super orange! 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. Xycho
    • No, it doesn't 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". Rainer
  • Decline. Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
    • 'Comment - Most houses are one-storey. "Most rooms are" I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - Rainer
  • Decline Well EXCUSE ME. Xycho
  • Accept This is interesting because it is here that it's revealed that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even is a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. It's dot com 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Declinio Kvb 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--homestar3.14 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

  • Revise. Say that it's similar to the one from replacement. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Revise. It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to replacement's red phone Strong Bad used. thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!
  • Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --Upsilon
  • Revise. Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

It's odd considering...

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor
  • Revise, accept. I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --Ogog
    • Comment Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun Facts here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --TheEggman

"state trooper"

Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song Straight Shooter by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." Terra Rising Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!
  • Accept, but move. If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --TheEggman 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)


Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See rock opera - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

Off-screen typing

Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

  • Neutral Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. Kamek 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Accept ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --TheEggman 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
      • Comment. This happens again in best thing, when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --TheEggman
  • Accept Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. Tim333
  • Rewrite. How's-about...
Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.
  • Decline I don't even know what they're talking about. --Clever Ben
    • That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --Upsilon
  • Comment. More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --MadEwokHerd 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
  • Accepterific Kvb 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • ACCEPT'D! Kiwi 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

Baby Doll Crazy Dance

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

  • Accept: Looks good to go
  • Good to go my eye. Decline, unless you can Revise this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --Shadow Hog 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Revise/Weak Decline -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on Main Page 13, as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --Zonath 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Severe Decline. If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →evin290 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --oopsyoubwokeit 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Der Klein Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. Rudeboy87 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)


The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

  • STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --Jay 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. "Though Strong Bad wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an angelerfish, he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. Fizz to the 123


Real virus?

Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:virus -- tomstiff 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Number 423,827

I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date by the site since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at Talk:virus -- tomstiff 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command

  • Accept Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --flashstorm 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --TheEggman 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

Quote of the Day (or so)

Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

  • Decline There, you just said it yourself. Shortly >>AFTER<< the release of this e-mail. Kvb 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

  • Decline. This is a comment, not a fact. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Revise. Strike the second sentence and add a link to Compy 386. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Rewrite. "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --TheEggman 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Shopping for Danger

Blue Laser Babies

The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

  • Decline. It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- tomstiff 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --TheEggman 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • No no no. Rudeboy87 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch

The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

  • Decline. Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- tomstiff 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Disney "Mickey" Logo

All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

  • Weak Accept. I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- tomstiff 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Very Weak Decline Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --Zonath 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Accept, Second I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --the spludge 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
  • Actual Decline. All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.It's dot com 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. I'd agree if just one CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they all have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- tomstiff 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • *sigh* Oh, great. Now I'm undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to Accept.It's dot com 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Definite Accept Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --homestar3.14 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. I mean, I think it's interesting... --Kiwi 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
  • Kevin 'Cline It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads? Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. SP'd
  • Weak Decline. Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) Aurora the Homestar Coder 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)



In montage, The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

  • Decline Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --TheEggman 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Ian 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--flashstorm 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --TheEggman 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to ACCEPT. I actually think this fact is a decent one. ISlayedTheKerrek 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment. I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --TheEggman
    • Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--flashstorm 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)


Relation to The Biggest Raddish

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in The Reddest Radish. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

VERDICT - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the Parsnips-A-Plenty page. --TheEggman 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Strong Sad's Lament

Strong Bad's Lament?

History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

  • Decline. If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --Trogga 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --VolatileChemical 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Revise, Accept Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --Jay 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... Dasrik 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --Trogga 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
  • You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --VolatileChemical 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • What makes you think the drawings at the end of dragon are Strong Bad's? --Trogga 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --Jay 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, Pumpkin Carve-nival didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old Homestar prank call debate. --Trogga 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --Jay 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --Trogga 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --VolatileChemical 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Vote change! Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple Accept. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --Jay 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept Lord Pikachon
  • Accept Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --acekirby13 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5

Most Legible?

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said. --VolatileChemical 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

  • Not the first. I know, homsar, homsar. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --VolatileChemical 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline, or severe rewrite. Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --TheEggman 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. Very noteworthy. --Gafaddict 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --THE PAPER 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from Scott of the Sahara...Rewrite! -- tomstiff 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm assuming this message was made in response to homsar to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. GillanTheVillain 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --VolatileChemical 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
    • Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. GillanTheVillain 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • "That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!" Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--MrsCommanderson 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A Jorb Well Done

Strong Sad's Tape

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --VolatileChemical 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)



Two names?

When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

  • Fhqwdlcinds So??? --Jay 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just revise it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in 
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

---erson 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Me Declino Infinito. -- tomstiff 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • REWRITE'D! I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --Kiwi 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • Decline the new one too It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --Jay 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --Kiwi 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
      • Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --Jay 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? ---erson 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --Jay 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
            • We dont know that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? ---erson 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
              • So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --Jay 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
                • Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
                  • Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --Jay 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?---erson 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. Decline. Beatfox 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Yet Another Comment. We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. Kiwi 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
  • How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. Me llamo decline Dasrik 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Control Scheme

The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

Verdict: After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to Talk:Stinkoman_20X6. --acekirby13 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ninja Gaiden Levels

Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

VERDICT: After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --ISlayedTheKerrek 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

Verdict: After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously Declined. Moved to Talk:Stinkoman_20X6. --acekirby13 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

  • Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --Ogog
  • Accept Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --Shadow Hog 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, Decline. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --Joshua 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept & Revise Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -Miss Free Country USA

Stone Fist

When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

  • DeclineSame as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --Ogog
  • Accept Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --Shadow Hog 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept! Extremejon
  • I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? Decline Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
  • Decline Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --Joshua 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second Kvb 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

  • DeclineThere is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline; noted at the top of the page. --Shadow Hog 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. All Your Second Are Belong To Us SP'd
  • Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. Decline Dasrik 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

  • DeclineAside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --Ogog
    • Second Dasrik 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)


The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

  • DeclineThis is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And tempo?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --Ogog
    • Comment Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • Decline The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --Joshua 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Big stretch in both cases. And a Comment to Ogog, make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Er, the vote, that is. --Shadow Hog 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

  • Accept. I suppose that's interesting. --
  • Rewrite Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- Tim333
    • Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --beanluc
  • Rewrite It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
  • Accept. --Upsilon
  • Decline In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
    • Please sign your vote. --Trogga 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Second the last unsigned vote. Fizzy Again!
  • Decline I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.TakuaKaita600 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Cross-Toon Facts


When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

  • Decline every last case Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --Jay 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Revise, Accept. Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
    • The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --TheEggman 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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