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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

theme park

Raffi

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, Raffi.

  • Moved in here because it's a 'might be'. EDY-innit 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined. EDY-innit 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- tomstiff 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • decline Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. Donny vs Universe
  • "Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. Decline. -- SBEmail22
  • Accept because seriously I gotta accept one of these things, right? Dasrik 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Fireball

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

  • Moved in here because it's a 'might be'. EDY-innit 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- tomstiff 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I speculate that this fun fact might be declined... EDY-innit 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there The Pardack
  • Decline No no no. There are rides like this all over. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --Shadow Hog 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!

Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

  • Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco! Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > O). But, we unfortunately didn't catch fire. *Sigh.* Cheatachu72
  • Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?: Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -MK and/or BurnBox 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - Song from 60s 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline These exist, I think. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declined I've been on roller coasters like that so they do exist. The Pardack
  • Decline. I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- tomstiff 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declone If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. Donny vs Universe

do over

Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

  • SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it. EDY-innit 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline the incorrectity (I.M.O.) EDY-innit 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! Accept. Strongly. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I did check the sisters page before I put this fact on the do over page. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
    • Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! I didn't mean to do that!" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 possible reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. EDY-innit 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
      • You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- tomstiff 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
          • Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
            • So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- tomstiff 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
            • If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! EDY-innit 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --rsl12 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

  • Rewrite "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." Rudeboy87 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Outright Decline. Save it for when we get an actual Deleted. — It's dot com 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- tomstiff 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --phlip 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Brraaap! Declinated. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
  • Decline Y'all have said it all -- Tony Stonytalk
  • Great jorb, Decline. As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --Homsar999ß 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
  • Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined. It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the DELETED page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --Upset_Your_Balance 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. The Pardack
  • Rewrite. I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.

TK600 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Second. I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
  • Decline Both - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- Joshua 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • A type of Decline Second. --user: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Done Over It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. EDY-innit 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait. If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. 152.163.101.6 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Falling for You

When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

  • This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
  • Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. Dolores! Dasrik 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline are we seriously voting for this? --Tony Stony 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- Joshua 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- tomstiff 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Holy crap, no That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. Rudeboy87 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Secondated!! Kvb 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This is absurd. This is not how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for this kind of nonsense. — It's dot com 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED! *cough* yup. EDY-innit 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • No, it's not. (declined) 21:58 17 May 2005
  • Yeah, shut up kid kthx Keep crap off kthx. ---the spludge 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Are you some sort of Declined Brew? Absurd loose music reference. No. --Homsar999ß 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
  • Common pharse Declined' The Pardack
  • DEE-CLAAAANE!What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. TK600 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It's a common phrase. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22

Bang On The Drum

When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

  • THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
  • Decline First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- Tony Stonytalk
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline because your geekdar's broken. Dasrik 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • revise eliminate the second sentence completely. Fizz123
  • Decline as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --phlip 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
  • Second Fizz's Post. And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." TK600 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Not me. Decline user: Lappy 486Lappy 486 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCORPTED!!!Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.Because, It's Midnite
  • Decline - Darth Vader summarizes my feelings; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --Shadow Hog 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Change of Pace

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the Family Guy episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

  • Accept-erson I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that TBC make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P Cheatachu72
  • Decline. I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- tomstiff 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. unknownwarrior33 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DO OVER!!! I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --Jay (Talk) 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --Dex 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --Tony Stonytalk
  • Accept. I haven't made up my mind. Although, if all the coins were nickels, then it would be more clear-cut... — It's dot com 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept and a minor rewrite-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. Suicune64 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
  • Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
    • To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. Suicune64 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- Tony Stonytalk
      • On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --AnarchyBalsac
  • In The Dilbert Future by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. Decline from school Donny vs Universe
  • Accept This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. Ramrod 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
    • But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
    • Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --AnarchyBalsac
    • Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". Donny vs Universe
    • No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --AnarchyBalsac
  • Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. Strong Accept. --ISlayedTheKerrek 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →FireBird|(Talk)
  • I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --Jay (Talk) 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →FireBird|(Talk)
    • That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- Tony Stonytalk
  • STRONG ACCEPT I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. im_a_evil_wizard 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
    • I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- Tony Stony 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --Upset_Your_Balance 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them -- Kiwi 16:40, 18 May 2005
  • Accept. Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -Miss Free Country USA
    • Accept. It wouldn't be stealing. It would be homage-ing. beanluc
  • Accept I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. Ju Ju Master
  • Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). Donny vs Universe
  • Incredibly Strong Accept I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --Lappy 486 Lappy 486 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

  • Accept, yeah ok. makes sense to me Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? Decline-- Tony Stonytalk
  • Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept first but Decline second The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
  • Decline I use "alright" all the time. -- Joshua 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Apparently, alright is alright. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- tomstiff 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I may dislike the word alright, all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — It's dot com 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declime. Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
    • Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of tmesis, and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
      • Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? 82.43.183.38 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --Upset_Your_Balance 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.TK600 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - Song from 60s 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Bor-ing. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

new hands

Not handy

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

  • Decline And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --phlip 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
  • Decline, and I hate you get out Dasrik 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --Tony Stonytalk
  • Decline. When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. The Pardack
    • Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second' --Beatfox 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? DECLINE! --ISlayedTheKerrek 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
    • Jimi Hendrix did... --the spludge 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --Upset_Your_Balance 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."TK600 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

for kids

Okay, dumb children...

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

  • All is Off...Decline it Decline It! I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. Cheatachu72
  • Decline because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. Dasrik 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. Donny vs Universe
  • erm...no. Decline --Tony Stonytalk
  • Decline. No sir, I don't like it. -- tomstiff 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Yo declino For the reasons stated above The_Pardack
  • Decline. How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --TROGGA! 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second: Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -MK and/or BurnBox 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite and Accept. Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.TK600 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Decline RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

the bird

First Appearance

This is the first time we see the Pom Pilot.

  • Decline. We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --Gafaddict 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --Tony Stonytalk
  • Second RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --kerrek slaya 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline because... ehh... because. Dasrik 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Already listed elsewhere. Donny vs Universe
  • Very Weak Accept. So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- tomstiff 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.--rsl12 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

the process

Another convoluted band reference thing

Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group Emerson, Lake & Palmer; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled Tarkus, hence Emtarkanderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

  • Must...deny...funfact! Dasrik 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.Since you failed to revise, Decline--AnarchyBalsac
  • Decline The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this may be and stretching things" should disqualify it. Donny vs Universe
  • Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof. --AnarchyBalsac
  • 4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.Rudeboy87 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hence why I said he needs more proof --AnarchyBalsac
  • And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. Donny vs Universe
  • According to this --> Names ending in -erson you are correct, it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Comment Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
  • Decline. Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- tomstiff 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declinexord Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- Lord Karkon

dangeresque 3

Explanation needed?

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

  • No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. 3-Decline Dasrik 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Really?! I never got it till now! Donny vs Universe
  • Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween! (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! Cheatachu72
  • Decline - Song from 60s 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline ..........What? The_pardack
  • Decline. Oy. -- tomstiff 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --Beatfox 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline with an iron fist. That doesn't even make sense. TK600 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second with a bronze fist. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --NFITC1 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

The Best Decemberween Ever

Just humming along?

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

  • Weak Accept I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. Dasrik 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline True, but pointless. These should be fun facts, right? Eritain the Peculiar 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". Donny vs Universe
  • Accept This would make a good remark, yes. »ßenit, known as señor« 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --acekirby13|My Talk 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declome. Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. S-B, GmbH
  • Decline And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • !d'enilceD Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
  • And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. This goes without saying. -- tomstiff 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Both sides make some pretty good points. -- Kiwi 16:43, 18 May 2005
  • Accept Yeah, that's a good fact. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

cheat talk

To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

  • Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED! I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >the Cheat (sometimes, at least)Cheatachu72 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --Jay (Talk) 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --Jay (Talk) 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept A mistake on SB's part. --user: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Read the HR faq!! TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. DECLINE!! Donny vs Universe
    • That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --Jay (Talk) 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. mibluvr13 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --upset_your_balance 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Repeal the Accept and Decline. I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". DECLINED --Tony Stony 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- tomstiff 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! Donny vs Universe
  • ACCEPT -- Joshua
  • Decline! I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? Fetus!
  • I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. Second for all da declines Cheatachu72 [only one vote per customer]
  • My bad. Cheatachu72
  • Accept'd! not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --kerrek slaya 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. The Pardack
    • But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --Tony Stonytalk
    • At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- tomstiff 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --AnarchyBalsac
  • I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --AnarchyBalsac

Stinkomanual

Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. Bosch is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

Rewrite: The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company.

  • ALMOST Accept Edited to a full accept. Yay! Donny vs Universe
    • It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
      • I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [1] (found by Google, in small text on the right)
        Rewrite to be more consise, maybe:
        The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH which claims the same thing.
--phlip 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --phlip 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline phlip is right. Google it. --Jay (Talk) 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't.
    Rewrite It still needs to be more concise:
    The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". Robert Bosch GmbH is a German automotive company which does claim this.
--phlip 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Slightly embarrassed second Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --Jay (Talk) 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Also second that sounds better -- Nighthawk
  • Second Shorter = better -- Ju Ju Master
  • Decline. The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- tomstiff 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • True... but that's not what this fact is about. --Jay (Talk) 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- tomstiff 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • WHOA! I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable! Cheatachu72
  • NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!! I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is not part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --Jay (Talk) 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accepts the rewritten version. -- SBEmail22

labor day

Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

  • AH! COULD BE! Decline at once! --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • It's Magically Declined! --Beatfox 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hearts! Stars! Declines! -- AtionSong 20:34 11 May 2005
  • They're After Me Lucky Declines! ---the spludge 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • wow, so many Declines After further review, i'm changing my vote to neutral ---Nighthawk
  • Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here. --Upset_Your_Balance 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so decline'd. --Tehngion 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... Decline Dasrik 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. Donny vs Universe
  • This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast.--Tony Stony 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline The_Pardack
  • Very Weak Decline. OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught? -- tomstiff 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh... accept? {is pummeled by angry mobs} DECLINE, I meant DECLINE! Seriously. -- Joshua
  • Comment. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --fakename
    • But he still declined it, so what's the point? --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline. The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two other things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — It's dot com 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment. Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --Beatfox 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline. Upgrading to full decline. -- tomstiff 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --Tony Stonytalk00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(Changed decline vote to Neutral)
    • Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and Accept this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- Tony Stonytalk
    • This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
  • Comment. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
  • Decline I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -Miss Free Country USA

Bug in Mouth Disease

Invisible bug???

When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- tomstiff 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Second Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --Lappy 486 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • (Almost) Accept The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --weirdguy
  • Accept. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline So?? --TROGGA! 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept It's true. -- Joshua 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Everybody Knows It?

Dairy Queen is a restaurant chain that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

  • Accept. We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- tomstiff 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- tomstiff 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept sure, why not? --Tony Stony 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --TROGGA! 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Quacks like a Bubs

A "quack" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

  • Trogga's pushing it again. Accept --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Sure, why not, if it's true. Ju Ju Master
  • Decline A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --TROGGA! 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I didn't know it. -- Joshua 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --user: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept --AnarchyBalsac

Elijah Wood

A search for "blue ones" at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

  • Accept. I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — It's dot com 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --Jay (Talk) 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Tehngion 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I realize that. But it was just so... I dunno, bizarre. I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — It's dot com 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --Beatfox 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Probably referring to his eyes. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- tomstiff 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as that.
  • Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. Accept, at least for now. TK600 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --Tony Stony 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. Lucres 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Indeed. Second. --GregHosting 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
    • Second RAINERtalk 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? Donny vs Universe
      • I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --Ogog
        • But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. Donny vs Universe
          • I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- tomstiff 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
            • It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — It's dot com 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — P.S. That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
              • However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" No Smorking 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
    • No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".Donny vs Universe
      • Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — It's dot com 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
      • To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version here first, not on the page itself. — It's dot com 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. Donny vs Universe
          • Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning. --Tony Stony 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
            • Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. Donny vs Universe
              • What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--Tony Stony 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
            • Whoa, Donny. Don't bite Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --acekirby13|My Talk 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
              • Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. AtionSong 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
  • Decline It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. S-B,GmbH
    • The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --Tony Stonytalk
      • But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up because his eyes are blue. Its not weird. Donny vs Universe
        • I hate it when someone has to have their say (read: get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
        • I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. Donny vs Universe
  • Comment. Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.TK600 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- Tony Stonytalk

Whom made a mistake?

When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

  • As the writer, I Accept it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --phlip 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- tomstiff 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. Accept. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. --Beatfox 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Which means accept. :PTK600 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. Accept --Tony Stony 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. Accept Dasrik 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
    • While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- AnarchyBalsac
    • So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --phlip 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I would think so, yes. -- AnarchyBalsac
        • Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't.  :P Dasrik 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. Hamrodrunner 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declined. This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --Rgb9000 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept/Comment Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
  • Accept It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Bugface

The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.

  • "I'm-a gonna accept." This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--MrsCommanderson 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --Jay (Talk) 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I stick by my Accept greg2point0
  • Accept Just once this time =P Hawk-Eye-100 3:49 (This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)
    • {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --Jay (Talk) 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. |Donny vs Universe
    • To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --Jay (Talk) 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --Upset_Your_Balance 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --phlip 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. IMHO, the four user names and two IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- tomstiff 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline and permaban the IP's. --Beatfox 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Meh, accept.(Upgraded vote: Meh, Very weak accpet.) This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it Italic textisItalic text true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." TK600 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. |Donny vs Universe
      • Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --Jay (Talk) 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to Meh, very weak accept.TK600 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree, it should go in "remarks". So Second. Supyall (What is your deal? You can only vote once!)
      • Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- tomstiff 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --Upset_Your_Balance 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --Jay (Talk) 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. - Dingell
  • Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. Decline Dasrik 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Dare I ask what that stands for? --Jay (Talk) 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
      • ...you and die ;) Dasrik 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --Jay (Talk) 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say Accept. Could be a refferance...Thunderbird 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. |Donny vs Universe
  • I'll Accept your FACE!! to a bloody...pulp... --kerrek slaya 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
  • No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. »ßenit, known as señor« 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --AnarchyBalsac

The Blue Ones

Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

  • Now this fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!! Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --Jay (Talk) 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, for the love of...it's a word people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! DeclineThe_Pardack
  • Bupkis'd Ummm ... decline! -- tomstiff 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • If there were ever a candidate to be immediately Deleted (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — It's dot com 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DeclineAnd once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.Donny vs Universe
    • Second this "one". --Beatfox 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!TK600 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) Dasrik 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. No. Just--just no. »ßenit, known as señor« 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- Mithent 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
  • Well, there's more than one One.... Declined... No->No->No. EDY-innit 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE³ This is the biggest stretch EVER! Kvb 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Egg-free Diet

This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

  • Decline as written Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --Jay (Talk) 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!, a month and a half ago. Before that was the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer 3 months ago. Under Construction and most of the Puppet Stuff is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was Ballad of The Sneak, 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was Lookin at a Thing in a Bag, 13 months ago.
    In summary - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. Decline.
    Incidentally, the last eggless email was property of ones, and I put that in its Trivia section. --phlip 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • All right, that settles that. Second and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --Jay (Talk) 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Okay, how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — It's dot com 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Not necessary We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --Jay (Talk) 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Why not? It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people expect the eggs, it's news when there are none. — It's dot com 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite Possibly:
 Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
 this one contains no easter eggs. 
-- AtionSong 15:56 May 10, 2005
  • ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!! I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first Big Toon in whatever years, so this needs a rewrite, changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." Cheatachu72 May 10 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment In which case the last was Where's The Cheat? in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --phlip 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. --Beatfox 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!TK600 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --Tony Stony 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite. As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first Big Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --Upset_Your_Balance 23:21, 11 May 2005
  • Neutral While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --NFITC1 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • O.K...I made up my mind: Decline. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --Tony Stony 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was Shopping for Danger, if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, last year. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --Jay (Talk) 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline! We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... Thunderbird 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite. I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
    • (Not a vote.) Exactly.TK600 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

"Dr." Bubs

Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00.
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.
  • Neutral The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --Jay (Talk) 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC) Know what? I'm changing to Decline because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --Jay (Talk) 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline -- tomstiff 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline The_Pardack
  • Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the Homestar Quiz. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a Decline. - Song from 60s 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • So weak that its creepy decline GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a second, too. Cheatachu72 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! DancingRobots
  • So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. Decline. --phlip 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Beatfox 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail CGNU, Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --Rgb9000 01:25, 13 May 2005
    • Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in 12:00. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --Jay (Talk) 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --Rgb9000 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
      • So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --Jay (Talk) 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • (on the edit) We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --Jay (Talk) 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --Rgb9000 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • See Gee In You --phlip 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
    • OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --Rgb9000 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Dr. Bubs Christmas

Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to A Decemberween Pageant, where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

  • So weak a connection. I thought I would Decline it! --Beatfox 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I accept it, certainly. Cookiecaper 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Dr. Decline And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --Jay (Talk) 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Shut up kid! Nah, Homestar is just being silly. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. SilverSurfer
  • Decline Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24 10 May 2005
  • Accept Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
    • Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --Jay (Talk) 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I shoulda declined this like a million years ago! The_Pardack
  • I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - Song from 60s 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED! -- SBEmail22
    • Second -Tony Stony 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Grandma's Stories

The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

  • Decline This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. sninky-chan 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Deliciously Declined And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Seconding those above. -- tomstiff 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --Upset_Your_Balance 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --Tehngion 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Beatfox 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delteated! STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline If you were to mention all the things this could have come from then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --phlip 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
  • MAY BE != IS. DECLINE *exhales* Dasrik 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINED. James Craven

British Guy Show?

Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in morning routine.

  • Accept, If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. Thunderbird 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. Decline, old boy Dasrik 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
  • Naaaahhhhh Decline --Tony Stonytalk
  • Comment If I remember correctly, I think The Announcer has a British accent. --acekirby13|My Talk 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Nothing more than speculation. -- tomstiff 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Dacline. I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)TK600 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... Kvb 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon

What ladytypes?

Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in lackey.

  • Decline from Oh-hee-oh. What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — It's dot com 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  • And I don't really like him at all And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. Donny vs Universe
  • DECLiNE. There is no reason to make this connection at all. - aaronak 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination. No connection. Next! Rudeboy87 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

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CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

  • Revise Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --user: Lappy 486 May 2 9:25
    • Second It is too long, but does make sense. Ramrod 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ok fixed Ganome 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Proposed Revision: the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic
  • I'm...hesitant Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg. Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. Rudeboy87 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise: The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from The Naked City, "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." PolarBoy 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact and then once that happens rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.TK600 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")
  • Revise Possibly:
The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a 
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a 
brain tumor every 20 minutes.
I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - AtionSong May 8 , 2005
  • Major Decline and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
    • Second The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. unknownwarrior33 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! Ganome 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Only accept Naked City part. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

sugarbob

In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact

One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:sugarbob. -- tomstiff 13:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

garage sale

Eyebrow?

This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

  • Decline Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. Donny vs Universe
    • Second -- tomstiff 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
    • If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Some kinda robot marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --Upset_Your_Balance 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. Lucres 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
  • accept New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --GregHosting 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Decline Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --AtionSong 9:30 14 May, 2005
  • Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* »ßenit, known as señor« 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

The first mother's day toon?

All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

  • NO'D! Donny vs Universe
  • Second--User: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --Hamrodrunner 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nay 71.110.2.216 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --Gafaddict 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline! If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --thatkidsam 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second --aaronak 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. There's nothing more to say. --phlip 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • hahahaha NO Like I said, check your frickin facts! --the spludge
    • SECOND. Absolutely not the case!TK600 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Not really a garage sale

Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

  • Accept. Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
  • Decline. Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →evin290 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Utterly useless fun fact. --acekirby13 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second--TROGGA! 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --Upset_Your_Balance 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen in the garage. --phlip 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From Webster.com:
Main Entry: garage sale
Function: noun
a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - DMurphy 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- tomstiff 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline You're being way too literal, seriously. The_Pardack
    • Second.TK600 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --Tehngion 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --Tony Stony 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept with modifier Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --James Craven 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
  • Decline We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".unknownwarrior33 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity... EDY-innit 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Aunt Gert

Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale -- tomstiff 13:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

  • I think this needs to be revised, just because I don't really consider army to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until Cheat Commandos Commercial. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- tomstiff 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • From the DVD commentary for army: MATT: "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
    • SECONDThere is a fireburt toy in army it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
  • There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% accept As of now, I'd say weak accept. - AtionSong 15: 56 4 May 2005
    • As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 invisibility. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --tomstiff 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — It's dot com 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept with note The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in army, but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --Jay (Talk) 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --phlip 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second exactly --user: Lappy 486 6:21 May 5
      • Third... ya --djm1791 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Yes! Yes! SECOND! This is 100% true! --thatkidsam 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- Joshua
  • Accept I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.TK600 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in personal favorites? That wasn't an easter egg. I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and Accept this fun fact. - Song from 60s 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.unknownwarrior33 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Legless

Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale -- tomstiff 13:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)


DA?

Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

Decline. Be bold: delete bad facts. -- tomstiff 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Decline I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --AnarchyBalsac

Senor Mortgage

Potential reference

The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senor Mortgage -- tomstiff 13:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

personal favorites

Best Email Ever?

It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention your friends in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:personal favorites. -- tomstiff 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Experimental Film

Un Chien Debaser

"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of the Pixies, is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Experimental Film. -- tomstiff 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Now spell: bound

The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to Alfred Hitchcock's Spellbound.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Experimental Film. -- tomstiff 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

The Worst Commentary Ever

In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to The Simpsons, where the Comic Book Guy is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Experimental Film. -- tomstiff 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

The Clarke of infinity

The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to The Colours of Infinity, a 1995 television documentary by Arthur C. Clarke about fractal geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Experimental Film. -- tomstiff 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Football helmet = reference?

The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to Commander Keen, Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Experimental Film. -- tomstiff 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

current status

Send In The Clown

Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:current status -- tomstiff 19:31, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

theme park

Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

  • I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. Accept that one, but Neutral on the former; could be either way, really. --Shadow Hog 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Meeehh When there are two likely answers, hang them both. Donny vs Universe
  • Double Accept I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? user: lappy 486
    • Second. It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--rsl12 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --Beatfox 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second.Why did this get STUFFed? AtionSong11:33, 30 Apr 2005
    • Seconded with a capital S --djm1791 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Third --Da Borg
  • Decline the former, accept the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --Andorra409 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? {is confused} --Jay 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. Donny vs Universe
        • Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --Jay (Talk) 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • Probably just means that it's something of a weak Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --Shadow Hog 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
            • Sorry for the confusion, I meant to accept the first, and weak accept the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --Andorra409 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline A, Accept B --Jay 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Move A, Decline B.' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --ISlayedTheKerrek 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
    • Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --Shadow Hog 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Both -- Joshua
  • Decline Both -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? Tony Stony 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Both -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

couch patch

Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

  • Revise. Uhh...I sort of catch your meaning. -MK and/or BurnBox 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Most dictionaries list it as one word: crosstalk.It's dot com 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". Donny vs Universe
    • Second, to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
  • Revise You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. GillanTheVillain 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Decline. I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --TheEggman 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --Beatfox 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --NFITC1
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."
  • Exobably not. I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. Rudeboy87 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an Accept, preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
      • Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. Rudeboy87 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
        • The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. Donny vs Universe
  • No. I think he means like "backtalk." TK600 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Blue Laser Commander

A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

  • Decline. I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --Jay 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Un-second Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a PARODY, when the fun-fact-adder said reference? Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
    • Second. --Trogga 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- tomstiff 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --Jay 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so Decline. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? Donny vs Universe
    • Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- tomstiff 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinated! But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
  • Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. ISlayedTheKerrek 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT. This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a very distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. Chris Latta gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is clearly mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — It's dot com 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- tomstiff 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more interwiki links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, I did. — IDC 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the CHARACTER not the guy doing the voice. Donny vs Universe
  • ACCEPTED! For reasons already stated. -- Homsar999ß 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • My first-ever accept. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. Rudeboy87 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Arrgh!! You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. Donny vs Universe
    • I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right On! -- tomstiff 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the Blue Laser Commander voice? Parody. Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
  • Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
  • Does THAT work? --Jay 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. still decline All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. Donny vs Universe
      • Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --Jay 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. Donny vs Universe
        • Fair enough Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --Jay 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • No special comment this time, just Accept Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---the spludge 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • You're missing the point!! We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my Decline, we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --homestar3.14 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Awxome Axept TK600 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Under Construction

Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".

The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
  • "MAYBE'D!"I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--MrsCommanderson 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- tomstiff 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. - Dr Haggis - Talk 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept 1st, Decline 2nd I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. Dasrik 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. Decline the second
  • No and no. It's snot. Rudeboy87 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept (though possibly revise?) Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The Snot Bubble is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--rsl12 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --Beatfox 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Kvb 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.Rebochan 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --Trogga 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Nuetral So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?The_Pardack
  • Decline Note the commentary for japanese cartoon. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. Suicune64 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • WITHDRAWN Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be Rewritten. I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.TakuaKaita600 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. ISlayedTheKerrek
  • No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. Accept. → FireBird
  • Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. Aurora the Homestar Coder 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • It'Snot Blood I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --user: Lappy 486 30 Apr 9:32
  • Yes to the first one, No to the second - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__Tony Stony 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --AnarchyBalsac

trevor the vampire

Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F

When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly Declined by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to Talk:trevor the vampire. --acekirby13 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

japanese cartoon

So cool an unseen email

Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:japanese cartoon -- tomstiff 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Oolong's Namesake

Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for Combolations in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or Oolong the rabbit, whose owner is Japanese.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:japanese cartoon -- tomstiff 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

MikeMike And Matt Rock

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to Mike and Matt Chapman.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:japanese cartoon -- tomstiff 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

The Li'l Brudder Show

Ugly Animation

The animation resembles the work of Klasky Csupo (most famous for Rugrats), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show -- tomstiff 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Things are lookin' up!

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")TakuaKaita600 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show. -- tomstiff 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

dangeresque 3

Constantinople?

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to They Might Be Giants, who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with TBC on several occasions.

Verdict: After two weeks of voting, this fact was Declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:dangeresque 3. --acekirby13 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

rampage

Jammin'

"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to time capsule.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage -- tomstiff

rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

  • Decline It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --Jay 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh oops. I missed that.
  • However, there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
  • Accept i guess It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --user: Lappy 486
  • Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --Jay 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Laugh and grow fat

This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. -- tomstiff

pizzaz

So many a reference

Given the Brothers Chaps' obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference Fryguy, given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:pizzaz -- tomstiff 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

long pants

Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

  • Weak Decline Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --TheEggman 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment. Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to Severe Decline. --TheEggman 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Comment.The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
  • Accept. I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --Joshua 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --TheEggman 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- tomstiff 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first. I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.TakuaKaita600 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, Rewrite yep, it's true what the man says.
  • Acceptomundo I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. User: Lappy 486
  • Second. -Walking Armless
  • Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr, 
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text, 
Edga Jr. may have removed it.

This could be a comment instead of a goof.TK600 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

  • I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --AnarchyBalsac

Main Page 6

Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

  • Decline If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --the spludge 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
  • Revise and Accept. It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — It's dot com 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
    • Second Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --Joshua 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
    • Second It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Second I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --TheEggman 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --thatkidsam 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
    • Second -- AnarchyBalsac

(UTC)

  • Decline As I said on Talk:Main Page 6, there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --phlip 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- tomstiff 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.TK600 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

best thing

limozeen

Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

Verdict: A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was Declined. The discussion can be found at Talk:best thing. --acekirby13 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Who is John Bozar?

Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of Mr. Mxyzptlk, a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

He also bears a resemblance to the Great Gazoo from The Flintstones.
He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show Mighty Max called Dr. Zygote, who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.
He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.
He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character Q from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing -- tomstiff 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Alternative vs. Hair Metal

The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.

  • Revise. A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. ISlayedTheKerrek 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --211.252.38.203 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise! English, please? --Aussie Evil 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --TheEggman 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Trogga 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Accept New Vresion I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --acekirby13 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Slightly Revise... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --TheEggman 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Oh yeah, forgot about that. --acekirby13 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I just don't like this one. --user: lappy 486 25 Apr
  • Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --ISlayedTheKerrek 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

secret recipes

The bouncing ball

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes -- tomstiff 13:43, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Pamcakes and Pimecones

Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in montage.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes -- tomstiff 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

origins

Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

  • Decline. The tune is not the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -166.102.250.139 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
  • Accept, um, sorta In the Strong Bad Email Band Names, Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
  • Accept Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.Fizz123
    • Comment from original poster Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -162.39.226.54 (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
  • Umm... Guys, this fact is still on the page...
    • Comment. You can fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --Beatfox 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept.Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
    • Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: ACCEPT, YA DIG?!TK600 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Señor & Mr.Bland

Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of Marshmallow's Last Stand. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins -- tomstiff 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Face the Camera

This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins -- tomstiff 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2

Fifty frickin' wings

The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2 -- tomstiff 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

Who's that Drummond?

One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, Diff'rent Strokes. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band The KLF. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

  • Decline. I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --Trogga 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --acekirby13 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- tomstiff 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --Jay (Talk) 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Definitely a Diff'rent Strokes reference. — It's dot com 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline all 3. Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --Beatfox 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - Song from 60s 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Facty's Big Chance

Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the Goonland character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 -- tomstiff 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Fender Guitars

During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 -- tomstiff 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

The Reddest Radish

Back Buttons

The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the Telebision Toons Menu, which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Reddest Radish -- tomstiff 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Homestar Presents: Presents

Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

  • First of all, analog clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a digital clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Revise and accept Not in Alaska.
  • Revise and accept first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? ~~Frogz~~
    • You know alot about clocks.
  • Revise and accept What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
  • Rewrite To something like:
  • Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
    • Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Third...I mean.. Second. --RPharazon
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..Donny vs Universe
  • Accept However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
  • Decline I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --TheEggman 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does. Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. Fizz123(I'm not logged in.)
  • Accept. Super Sam 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, cwap! It's Declined! Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... User: Lappy 486
  • Accept The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - Song from 60s 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Slippers

Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in caper.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Blade man

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from personal favorites.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. It's dot com 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in The Best Decemberween Ever, which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --Jay 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Weak Decline. ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in 3 Times Halloween Funjob, as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --TheEggman 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Move to Homestar's House. --Trogga 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
    • Comment. You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --TheEggman

Wizard of Oz

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents -- tomstiff 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

If you go up stairs you are on the second floor

Homestar's room is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

Template:STUFF verdict --Gafaddict 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Coach Z's Phone

Coach Z's phone is the same one from replacement.

VERDICT: This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. --Trogga 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

  • Revise, accept. It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --Lyzz
    • Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --TDK
  • Accept. This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --Chrysaor
  • Revise, accept. I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --Ogog
    • Comment Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun Facts here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --TheEggman
  • Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- AnarchyBalsac
  • Declined... oh, that's rough I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... Dasrik 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

  • Decline I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --FortyTwo 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Agree I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
  • Agree I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -Hagurumon
  • Accept I noticed it to. --super oraaaange!
  • Revise and Accept I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --Noshtzy
  • Accept. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --Kerrek Slaya!
  • Accept, but move. If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --TheEggman 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline-pthoo I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. User: Lappy 486
    • Second. This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --Beatfox 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- AnarchyBalsac

animal

Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

  • Accept. --J to the sag
  • Neutral Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --Tim333
  • Accept. There's something wrong with this. --The Real Zajac 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept but Move. It's definitely odd, but put this on Lappy 486 unless things change next email. -- Mithent 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Comment. The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --MadEwokHerd 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See rock opera - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Standing too close to you in Decline --User: Lappy 486
  • Decline. Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- tomstiff 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- tomstiff 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

  • STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --Jay 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Rewrite. "Though Strong Bad wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an angelerfish, he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. Fizz to the 123
  • Accept but rewrite I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. -- User: Lappy 486
  • Rewrite. "Strong Bad's 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world anglerfish. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --Beatfox 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --AnarchyBalsac

virus

Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command

  • Accept Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --flashstorm 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Revise This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --TheEggman 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --User: Lappy 486
  • Strong Decline This happenes all the time with the Compy. --BenRK 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- tomstiff 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Quote of the Day (or so)

Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

Template:STUFF verdict --Gafaddict 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

  • Decline. This is a comment, not a fact. --Trogga 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Revise. Strike the second sentence and add a link to Compy 386. --tomstiff 07 Apr 2005
  • Rewrite. "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --TheEggman 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Declination Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--Posted by -erson 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. User: Lappy 486
  • Decline I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the Compy 386 page instead, but definately not here. - AtionSong 7 May, 2005
  • Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --AnarchyBalsac
  • Comment. Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- Kiwi 16:54, 18 May 2005
  • Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --AnarchyBalsac

Bubs' Belt

At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

  • Decline=Very Yes. Aunt Gert Alert! -- tomstiff 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --AnarchyBalsac

Cheat Commandos Commercial

For the little 'uns

All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial. -- tomstiff 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

lackey

Unemployed?

In montage, The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

Verdict: After over two weeks of voting, this fact was Declined with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on Talk:montage. --Gafaddict 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5

Most Legible?

Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said. --VolatileChemical 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

VERDICT: After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

A Jorb Well Done

Strong Sad's Tape

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --VolatileChemical 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:A Jorb Well Done -- tomstiff 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

caffeine

Peacy Prize

Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the Nobel Foundation's Peace Prize.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:caffeine -- tomstiff 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Bushes

This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to Talk:caffeine. -- tomstiff 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Games

Peasant's Quest

Videlectrix Ajax

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Peasant's Quest -- tomstiff 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Stinkoman_20X6

Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

  • Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1

More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

  • Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --Ogog
  • Accept Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --Shadow Hog 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, Decline. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --Joshua 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept & Revise Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question. TK600 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Once And Only Once. This is already in the transcript, so no need for it to be here. --phlip 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept -- AnarchyBalsac

Rose Blake

When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Stlunko

Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...

  • ...the final boss in the Donkey Kong game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
  • ...Gamma from Mega Man 3.
  • ...Rudy, the final boss of Wario Land 3.
  • ...Kerozene, a boss added to the Game Boy Advance version of Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 -- tomstiff 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Bronco Trolleys

Wagon Wheel

This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about hankering for a hunk of cheese. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a TBC homage. --beanluc 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bronco Trolleys -- tomstiff 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

General

Wonkavision Magazine Interview

She loves me...

The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

VERDICT: The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview. -- tomstiff 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

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