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The following fun facts have gone through the [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] process.
The following fun facts have gone through the [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] process.
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This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts.
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Some items have been removed altogether and may be found [[over STUFF'd|here]].
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This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts. This is primarily for reference (i.e., in the case of when an item on a page is STUFF'd after already being decided on in this forum) - no new votes will be considered for these items.
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== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ==
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=== Marzipan a Vegetarian?(declined) ===
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Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.
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*'''decline-'''  We all know marzipan is a vegetarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here? (sorry for not signing, my first time,[[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' (But sign your vote!) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:11, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**I gotta '''Second''' this. Sorry. [[User:thatkidsam|dark_predator! okay, fine... thatkidsam]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:27, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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**'''Second.''' Vegetarians say phrases like this all the time, it doesn't make them unreasonable. --[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 00:35, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Decline.'''  It is a saying that has nothing to do with literally cooking goose.  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:47, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' It's just a saying, and besides, vegetarians such as I have no problem saying sayings about meat --[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]]
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=== Aught Four Crap(declined) ===
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Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.
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*'''decline''' This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics"  it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four"  this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said. [[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
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**'''second''' Apologies, I had never heard "aught-four" before in my life (or aught-anything, for that matter) and thought it had been invented by Strong Bad on the spur of the moment. Go ahead and delete it if it's not considered a reference to the e-mail. --Sokko
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*'''Accept.''' Although it is an accepted term, it's very rarely used (and isn't technically correct). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Revise''' - I've never heard "aught four" before, and if Strong Bad says it somewhere else then it is, as far as I'm concerned, a good enough reason to include. [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:17, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**In English, "aught" means zero. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:45, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''decline''' It's just another way of saying '04; it didn't originate on this site nor is it a specific reference to anything else.  If he'd said "oh-four," this wouldn't even be an issue. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:42, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**But he didn't say "oh four", he said "aught four", which is actually pretty archaic and extremely uncommon. It's no coincidence that it was also said by Strong Bad in [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' - I though Aught Four was Naught Four without the N. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' I've heard people say that all the time!
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*'''Info:''' 'Aught is an old way of saying ''naught'', an old term that means ''zero'' or ''nothing''.  It is still used in physics and chemistry when a variable has a zero as a subscript. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:04, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
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=== "Oh cwap" vs "I say.."(declined) ===
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Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to [[The King of Town DVD]], when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."
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*'''Uber-decline''' That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. [[user:super orange!|super orange! the lone/first voter!]]
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**'''Uber-Second''' even if you thought that was so, Homestar says "I say" three times in the KoT dvd, and Homestar says "Oh cwap!" '''four''' times
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** D'oh!  Well the connection positively jumped out at me and smacked me in the face--I think of it every time I see it.  [[User:socetew|socetew]]
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**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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=== Broken phone(declined) ===
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Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/51/ Salad Fingers] Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/39/ rusty metal], this might be intentional.
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*'''Decline.''' I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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*'''Decline.''' Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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*'''Decline.'''  It's more than likely a reference to [[replacement]] rather than salad fingers. -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
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**i agree about it being a refrens to replasment and have never herd of "saled fingers"
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**But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
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***Because it implies poor quality? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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***Because it's in a box of useless stuff that Bubs didn't manage to sell. No one is going to buy a rusty steak knife, or electrical tape, or a banana with a toy arrow stabbed through the center. -- [[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
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*'''Decline.'''  Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.
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**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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=== Has what it takes(declined) ===
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Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.
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*'''Decline.''' Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts.  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**Second-[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline''' Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --[[user:super orange!|super orange!]]
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*'''Decline''' This just sounds like the way he talks.  That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--[[User:clhinton|clhinton]]
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i agree about homestarmy
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=== Garfield X-mas(declined) ===
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Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302596/ Garfield Christmas Special], in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."
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*I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]].  Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
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**Second. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam strikes again!]]
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***This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually.  Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc.  Never saw The Smurfs one. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline''' - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second''' - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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**'''Second.''' Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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** Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. --[[User:68.196.82.110|68.196.82.110]] 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*** (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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***The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Decline.''' For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== Candy Cane(declined) ===
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The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the [[Decemberween In July]] menu.
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*'''Decline.''' The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailxmas.html 'SBemail Xmas Menu'] and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in [[Homestar Presents: Presents|this toon]] and a previous one. --[[User:The_Paper|The Paper]]
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**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?"  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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=== Egg Nog Glass(declined) ===
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The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].
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*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'd.''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Dripping Sound(declined) ===
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The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].
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*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon?  [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally.  This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste.  These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Alms for the poor(declined) ===
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).
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*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation.  Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
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**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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=== Marzipan's Purse(declined) ===
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This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== Screentime(declined) ===
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The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.
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*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
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**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' No matter how popular he is the website's called homestarrunner.com not thecheat.com.
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**'''Complain!'''Nitpicky, ain't we? Who cares? '''ACCEPT!''' Just to shut you ip [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
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=== Homestar always confuses have and has(declined) ===
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Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"
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* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
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*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== Alms for the Pudgy(declined) ===
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Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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=== 1 on 1(declined) ===
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This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation.  In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park.  sorry bout that.  XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]
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=== Electrical Tape?(declined) ===
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Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.
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*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape.  Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
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**'''Second.''' What does "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape" mean anyway? - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
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*'''Accept.''' If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.
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== [[Malloween Commercial]] ==
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=== Mallowcremes(declined) ===
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"[[Fluffy Puff Malloweens|Malloweens]]" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.
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*'''Decline.''' It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 20:56, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:18, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[Decemberween Kids' Book]] ==
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=== Magic Ball #1(declined) ===
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The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the ''Palantir'' from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.
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=== Magic Ball #2(declined) ===
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The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.
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=== Magic Ball #3(declined) ===
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Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
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*'''Decline.''' I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' SB's magic ball only burns flesh when it glows, which doesn't apply to any of the above. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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== [[impression]] ==
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=== Elephant Slippers(declined) ===
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When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.
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*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 20:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== Get it off(declined) ===
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Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.
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:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think there's really a connection. -- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:15, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[personal favorites]] ==
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=== The Beginning and the End(accepted) ===
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The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].
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*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
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*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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== [[anything]] ==
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=== Dan Vs. Jerome 2(declined) ===
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Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman
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*Oddly enough, this has been here for longer than two weeks and no one has voted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:10, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Soda Physics(declined) ===
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The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.
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*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== E-mail/E-nail & .exe/.com(declined) ===
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Instead of typing "run sbemail.exe", Homestar types "run sbenail.com"
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--[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
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*I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Freshley's(declined) ===
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One of Homestar's shoe box shoes is the same one as in the email "Time Capsule" when he had a "gross old wig".--[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
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*I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Computer or Chalkboard(declined) === 
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At first, Homestar seems to think that the computer is a chalkboard. However, after writing his name, he uses it as a regular computer. Also, how does homestar know how to access Strongbad's e-mail? Could it be that he is always, as he says in 100, "behind the black"??? --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
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*I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[Main Page 22]] ==
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=== The Old Man Fishin'(declined) ===
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When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]
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*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --Yeah, it's already mentioned. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second.'''Pretty obvious. --[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''That's really the point. The virus was messing everything up, so Peasant's quest was playing along side the screen. It's like saying 'When he gets the virus, the screen pours out on the floor'. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:26, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==[[the facts]]==
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===G'oh!(accepted)===
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The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"
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 +
*'''Accept.''' I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' I suppose... --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
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*'''Accept.''' Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:32, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
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*'''agree''' That sure sounds like homer. -Nate
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*'''Revise & accept.''' change the word 'is' (in 'is a reference') to 'could be'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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=== Channel 3(declined) ===
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The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.
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 +
*'''Decline.''' I just don't think this is very interesting.  I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else).  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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**'''Second.''' I don't think people in NTSC countries care either. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 17:22, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:seedling|seedling]] 14:14, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Most?  I've seen MANY that send to channel 3.  --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
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*'''Decline.''' Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Delcine''' Who cares?  It's too obvious and not "fun" at all --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Decline''' So what? Video Game Consoles do that too.
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 +
=== Homestar's cartoon(declined) ===
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The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really ''does'' eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.
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 +
*'''Rewrite/Decline.''' I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least.  It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' More opinion than fact. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*'''Weak Rewrite.''' Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see [http://www.askoxford.com Ox. Engl. Dict.] or [http://dictionary.reference.com dictionary.com]). --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==[[radio]]==
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=== Stop calling me Senator(declined) ===
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Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to [[Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_11.2| Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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 +
*'''Revise, accept.''' Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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**'''Second''' My thoughts exactly.  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== Four-and-twenty stone(declined) ===
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1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.
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*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe [[TBC]] wouldn't promote marijuana here. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' The 420 chemicals part is a myth.  The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up.  I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
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**Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
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*'''Decline.''' The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Decline.''' I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). &mdash; [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]]
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*'''Decline.''' 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]]
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*No vote from me on this, but 420 is the police code for marjuana possesion i believe and that is where the 4:20 comes from, pot smokers have a holiday of sorts on april 20th, and light up at 4:20 pm...not that i would know ,[[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
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*'''Decline''' That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  "4-and-20" is an old-fashioned way of saying 24, and "stone" is a unit of weight.  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Decline''' It is also referring to the adage that the camera (being on TV...) adds 16 pounds.  So old-tyme Strong Bad is saying in an old-timey way that the radio makes him sound fat.-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
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Four hundred twenty is not a refernce to the number of chemicals found in marijuana.  It is not the time smokers light up.  It is the police code for possession, though, and that's where the association of that number with pot smoking comes from.  Just my two cents- I don't think that Sir Strong Bad's use of that specific number is any reference to marijuana.  Stone is a measure of weight (about twenty pounds I believe) and so the statement is likely a reference to the commonly held superstition among actors that being on TV makes one look fat.
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=== The fish was delish(declined) ===
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Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.
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(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)
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*'''Decline.''' It's actually an old broadcasting clich� - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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**Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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=== Crackity towel!(declined) ===
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Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
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*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*'''Decline''' He's not even saying "crackity towel".  He's repeating what Strong Sad said.  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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=== Senor Cardgage(declined) ===
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Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].
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*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage.  --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' If you ever listen to college radio they mumble a bunch and sound unprofessional.--[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:20, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== Crackotage(declined) ===
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Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]
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*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same.  Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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=== Bruce Almighty(declined) ===
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"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."
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*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:24, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
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*'''Decline!''' "That's the way the cookie crumbles" is a common phrase that originated ages ago, if anything.
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=== Plugged in(declined) ===
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Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.
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*'''Decline.''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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=== Highball!(accepted) ===
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The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]
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*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --[[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch.  That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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===The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!===
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The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o)  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt!  --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''
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*sorry i thought this was the next fun fact up. my bad. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
==[[animal]]==
==[[animal]]==
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=== Foster's Home(declined) ===
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The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.
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*Yeah....  Um. Yeah.  I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it.  You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.'''-- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 12:36, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline''' Guess what?  There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin!  [[Kevin]] is automatically a reference to this character!  Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name!  It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name!  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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=== Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined) ===
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The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.
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*'''Neutral.''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
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Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*'''Decline.''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline''' It's a friggin' ANGLERFISH for crying out loud!!! -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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=== Pikmin thing?(declined) ===
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the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.
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*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' What?  Pikmin?  Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
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*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]]
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*'''Second''' -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== Speculations, Again(declined) ===
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Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.
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*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
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*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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==== Finding Nemo(declined) ====
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=== Finding Nemo(declined) ===
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.
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*'''Decline''' How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling)  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Decline''' How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling)  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== Second Wall Breaking(declined) ====
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=== Second Wall Breaking(declined) ===
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== Soolnd(declined) ====
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=== Soolnd(declined) ===
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== LCD Screen(declined) ====
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=== LCD Screen(declined) ===
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== Ridiculous (declined) ====
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=== Ridiculous (declined) ===
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer
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*'''Decline.''' Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing.  It's N-E-W Computers!  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Decline.''' Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing.  It's N-E-W Computers!  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== Christmas Lights(revised and accepted) ====
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=== Christmas Lights(revised and accepted) ===
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas.  It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas.  It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
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[[Decemberween]].</pre>
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**But.. in [[The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever|The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever]] they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
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**But.. in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
***So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' -- {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Subject Line, etc.(declined) ====
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=== Subject Line, etc.(declined) ===
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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==== Segmented Eyes(declined) ====
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=== Segmented Eyes(declined) ===
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== These Speculations(declined) ====
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=== These Speculations(declined) ===
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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=== Babies havin' babies(declined) ===
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Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/
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* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' The phrase refers to teen girls having children - another sign (or symptom) of the "desolation" and "chaos". --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
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=== check out all my dimensions(declined) ===
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Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications."  This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."
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*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad asking us to "check out" something again does not constitute a reference. --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 21:58, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
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===Sterrance (Accepted) ===
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Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== Lappy Startup Screen (Moved to Talk page) ===
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The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote.  The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== The Price is Right... Again (Accepted) ===
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The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin.  It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== Weird laptop (Rewritten and Accepted) ===
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After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)
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'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
==[[virus]]==
==[[virus]]==
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=== Bubs' Broken JPEG(declined) ===
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Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]].  It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.
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*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
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:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Strong Sad's face(declined) ====
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=== Strong Sad's face(declined) ===
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.
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**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk</sup>]]
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk</sup>]]
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*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already.  Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already.  Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== Out in the black ====
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=== One flash file(modified and accepted) ===
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The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).
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*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''. Dito. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== Oh, a wise guy, eh?(declined) ===
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Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.
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*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics.  --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
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**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this.  Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept'''.  I didn't know this before.  I think it's interesting.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact.  This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept'''.  TBC have made other [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search Three Stooges references]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' The reference in [[In Search of the Yello Dello|Yello Dello]] seems weak, but in [[lackey]] it's quite clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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=== Breaking the fourth wall(declined) ===
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This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).
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*'''Trim and redirect'''.  This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact.  It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite'''.  This needs to be trimmed.  It's a little too much information.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Good point DG. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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=== Compy 386?? (page title) (declined) ===
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The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.
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*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''.  Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
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**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline'''.  It's obvious and not exactly fun.  [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''
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=== Email number(declined) ===
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The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.
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*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' And what if someone had sent their gibberish email during the Tandy era? You seriously think that TBC really made that themselves? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:31, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== Out in the black ===
''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)''
''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)''
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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==== Linux ====
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=== Linux ===
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''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to modify and accept.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:33, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)''
''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to modify and accept.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:33, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)''
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*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.&rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify, keep'''.&rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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=== Computer Viruses(declined) ===
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Computer viruses exist in the real world in addition to cartoons.  Norton Anti Virus says I have twelve viruses on my computer right now (a new personal record).
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*'''Delete a thousand times over''' This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire life. Wow... You're a moron. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:19, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I didn't know that.
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** You're just trolling, aren't you? '''DELETE IT!!''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:36, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*I thought I knew what ridiculous was until this day. '''DELETED!''' --Tom H. (Homesmash Brother)
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*'''Delete in an hour''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:16, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Everybody knows that. --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:12, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' WOW. And Palm pilots exist in cartoons and in the real world. And cell phones exist in cartoons and in the real world. And coachs exist in cartoons and in the real world. And football fields exist in cartoons and in the real world. Are you like dumb? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:35, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== [[montage]] ===
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=== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)===
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When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.
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==== Ain't that a drag? ====
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
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=== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)===
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The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".
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'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes.  This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
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=== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)===
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Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)
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== [[montage]] ==
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=== Pants (revised and accepted)===
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Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate.  A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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=== Animal House(declined) ===
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The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film ''Animal House'', when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.
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*'''Decline.''' This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]] 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Too common in comedies. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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*'''Accept.''' While this does happen in a lot of movies, using it as the easy-way-out ending for a comedy pretty much began with Animal House, predating its use in other films like Legally Blonde (apparently; I've never seen it) and Fast Times at Ridgemont High. --poogas
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*'''Decline.''' Although this kind of montage probably did start with ''Animal House'', this usage of it is probably just a parody of the whole cliche of the "what happened to _________" montage itself, rather than any particular film. (Besides, Animal House just said "[NAME] [GRADUATING CLASS] [FATE]," so this, which uses complete sentences (with lower case) cannot be a direct reference to it. Yes, I'm a geek...) --Jeffrey
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=== headphones(declined) ===
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When watching the flash file, during the montage of Strong Bad and the wagon falling in love, you can see that the headphones they use to listen to the record player aren't plugged into anything.
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*'''Very decline.''' We do not track problems "outside the wall" because they're irrelevant -- [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] didn't intend for you to see that. See the last paragraph of the [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun_Facts|Fun Facts]] section of the Standards document. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 21:14, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 15:44, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== Ain't that a drag? ===
''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline.'' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 16:45, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline.'' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 16:45, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Absolutely ''not'' interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Decline.''' Absolutely ''not'' interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' and too obvious. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:39, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' and too obvious. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:39, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Coincidence, and nothing more.
*'''Decline.''' Coincidence, and nothing more.
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== [[little animal]] ==
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=== sdrawkcab(declined) ===
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The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.
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*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts.  --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Baleeted!''' Delete! Delete! Delete! It is most definitly an '''optical illusion'''! --66.41.150.114
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== [[Shopping for Danger]] ==
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=== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends(accepted) ===
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The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").
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*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
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=== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. (declined) ===
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This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline''' So what? &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' This isn't a noteworthy fact.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== Reynold and Ghostbusters (modified)===
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Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.
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'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item.  The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
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== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ==
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=== Speaking(accepted) ===
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This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.
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*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack.  Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Accept.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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=== Page title(modified and accepted) ===
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The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Revise'''.  It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial.  Otherwise, I accept.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
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:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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=== Dripping towel noise(declined) ===
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The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].
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*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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=== Locka-room(declined) ===
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The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.
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*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
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*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]
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=== Blue Star Ointment(modified and accepted) ===
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Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki.  TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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=== Old man remedies (declined) ===
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"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].
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*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== Breath-holding skill(declined) ===
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Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.
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*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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=== Philly Cheat Steak(accepted) ===
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"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".
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*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
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*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
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**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these.  Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]
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=== KoT and SBemail(declined) ===
 +
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.
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*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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**'''Second.''' I do.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
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*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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=== Humminama What?(declined) ===
 +
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.
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*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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=== Creeping Death(declined) ===
 +
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]).  Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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=== WEAR FLIP FLOPS.(declined) ===
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In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.
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*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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=== All white stuff on his face(declined) ===
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Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
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*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline''' I don't think TBC meant for it to look like that.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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=== Strong Mad's laugh(declined) ===
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Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]].  The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.
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*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' OK. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant.  TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc.  These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' Ditto.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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=== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch."(modified and accepted) ===
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(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")
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 +
In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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== [[Theme Song Video]] ==
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=== Drink Me? ===
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in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time
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*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time.  Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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== [[time capsule]] ==
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=== World-Class Hole (Declined) ===
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The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
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*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[Kick the Can]] ==
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=== Opposite approach (Declined) ===
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The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
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(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)
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*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
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**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''
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== [[part-time job]] ==
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=== SWF File (Declined) ===
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This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall.
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*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things?  There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file.  Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact.  Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]  PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
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*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.'''  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
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*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
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*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Relative (Declined) ===
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Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes.  The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail.  What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?
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*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
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**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
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*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]
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**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
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*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Dilbert (Modified) ===
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The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.
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''Also seen worded as:''
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The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.
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*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''
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*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this.  However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie.  Both of them do, but not in the same way.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I dident know that
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' the second one.  Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie.  The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Buh-hubs (Modified) ===
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In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
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*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Someday (Declined) ===
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In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].
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*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental clich�, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== League of Women Voters (Declined) ===
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"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.
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*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used.  This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part.  However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...".  Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[other days]] ==
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=== Thor? (DECLINED) ===
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"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.
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*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
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**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
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**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]] ==
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===  Three Noses? (declined) ===
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Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.
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*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.'''  Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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== [[dreamail]] ==
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=== Decline of Video Gaming (declined) ===
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When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.
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I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves.  They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included.  Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.
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*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*
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*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter.  Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary).  Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become.  It doesn't even contain any proper nouns.  --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.
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=== Backwards joke (declined) ===
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The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].
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*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related.  the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies.  Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar.  Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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=== Not Plugged In (declined) ===
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The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.
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*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
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**'''Second'''
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**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
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==[[ghosts]]==
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===PETRA(declined)===
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The rock and role band "PETRA" relesed a CD in 1986 called "Captured In Time And Space."
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this may have a resenblents to the area strong sad is in.
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*'''Weak Decline.''' Not really that similar. I would've gone neutral but you made an entire heading for it and you spelled "resemblence" wrong. Completely wrong. Before adding your stuff, be sure to look at the standards page :-) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and spelling, too. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:53, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:08, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' "Time and space" is a common phrase. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Maxstar|Maxstar]]
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==[[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]==
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===Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts(declined)===
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In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.
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*'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]
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*'''Accept''' The transcript mentions that Marzipan has no mouth, but not that this can be "clearly told".
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*'''Decline''' Frankly, Mr. Anonymous, I fail to see the difference in this case. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' As mentioned, it's in the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]==
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===VOIP(declined)===
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I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
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*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym.  Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
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*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
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***'''Second''' Check the toon and the transcript - the abbreviation is "VoIP" while the sound used is "VOiP".  If this was an intentional Voice over IP reference, they'd have used the lower-case "o" and the upper-case "I". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen.  Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended).  The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP.  Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
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*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:36, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second''' Writing a sound as a word is Otomotophoya. [[User: drivec|drivec]]
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**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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***The word is "Otomotopia". I'd really love to know where you got the "phoya" from. :-P --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:18, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
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****Don't you both mean "[[Wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|Onomatopoeia]]"? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:02, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*****Eh, I did a search and found the spelling I used. At least I had the right PRONUNCIATION. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
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******"onomato" doesn't sound much like "otomoto", but you were mostly in the ball park, yes. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:31, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*******FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! I...Er... I mean '''Second.''' - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]==
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===Quotation'd(declined)===
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When the Intercom Robot announces the next band is Kissyboots, it says, "Next up is "Kissyboots ", without the second quotation mark.
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*<s>'''Neutral for now''' I don't think that's true lemme go check up on that. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 11:56, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
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*'''Decline''' I rewatched it and the second quotation is definitely in there. '''UNFACTUAL'D''' &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:02, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This isn't even good enough for STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==[[stunt double]]==
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===Lemmer(declined)===
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"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]
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*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'd!!!''' And Lemke isn't his last name, he's called Mark Lemke -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' I don't have the DVD, but if commentary says it's a reference to [[LEMKE]], make say so. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:29, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
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== [[homsar]] ==
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=== Heavy Lourde(declined) ===
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"Lourde" is French for "heavy."
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*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry.  -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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== [[huttah!]] ==
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===Title(declined)===
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The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.
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*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
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**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
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**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
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*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
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**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
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*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' I'll say it again. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
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== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ==
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=== Dr Zoidberg(declined) ===
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The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
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*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
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*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot <i>is</i>, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
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'''Stinko-strong DUHH-cline''' Even if [[TBC]] thought of Futurama when making the voice, I doubt it's a reference because isn't [[The Homestar Runner]] supposed to be in the year 1936, and Futurama supposed to be in the year 3000? DUH!--Brooks(Can't figure out how to make a username, but giganto fan of H*RWIki)
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==[[homestar hair]]==
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=== Losing his touch(declined) ===
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Strong Bad sure seems to be losing his touch lately.  This is the second email in a row, after "butt IQ", that is not funny.
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*'''Very very very strong Decline.''' And don't need to say why. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:44, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** I think this vote should be discounted because there is no reason provided.
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*** Read the rules. You don't need to provide a reason except on a Revise/Rewrite vote. Anyway, it won't matter in this case since the fact has unanimous declines so far. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:41, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''; That's opinion, not fact. In fact, this shouldn't even have been STUFF'd. This isn't "Select The Usable Fun Opinions". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
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** What? Not the STUFO page? Oh, then I guess there isn't any reason not to '''DECLINE''' then. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:08, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'd''' - This page is SO getting out of hand.  People are REALLY reaching... especially when they're submitting bald-faced lies, er, bald-faced opinions as facts.  I know we're not supposed to say so, but this one should be '''DELTEATED''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''EXTREME Decline''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:14, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' We have no documented record of anybody laughing at either of these emails, besides laughing at how not-funny they are.
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** 9_9 Please stop making joke votes. This is not a valid Fun Fact at all (it's not objective in the least, and an information page MUST be objective). In fact, if I found this one on a page, I'd delete it without even thinking about STUFFing it. Not as though this one counts (not signed) but they're still stupid. (Can we make this a WikiTrollable offense?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
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*'''Comment''' Well, at least this guy didn't sign it, so it doesn't matter now. Usually the joke votes aren't signed anyway though. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:46, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==Cross toon facts==
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=== Trust (declined) ===
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In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him."  This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
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*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
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**'''Decline''' Ditto. &mdash; [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
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**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt></small>''
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**'''Second.''' Yeah. i remember that. " You shouldn't be Throwing anything with your back the way it is". erm....something like that
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=== Parents (declined)===
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When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
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* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
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* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
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** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
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*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==pizzaz==
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=== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ===
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Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad.  So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.
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'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
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==New Intro (Declined)==
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The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.
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*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
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**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
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**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
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*'''Comment''' The Brothers Chaps used a new SWF filename so they could tell the difference between it and the older intro. The HTML filename is still the same because it causes the new intro to be the default. This saves the trouble of changing all the link paths on other pages. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I read this one before it was STUFF'd. I thought it was pretty interesting, kind of. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:38, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

Current revision as of 04:56, 21 May 2007

The following fun facts have gone through the STUFF process.

Some items have been removed altogether and may be found here.

This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts. This is primarily for reference (i.e., in the case of when an item on a page is STUFF'd after already being decided on in this forum) - no new votes will be considered for these items.

Contents

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Marzipan a Vegetarian?(declined)

Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.

  • decline- We all know marzipan is a vegetarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here? (sorry for not signing, my first time,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline. It is a saying that has nothing to do with literally cooking goose. -Clever Ben
    • Second. - «Rob»
    • Second. --Tiggera 21:47, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. It's just a saying, and besides, vegetarians such as I have no problem saying sayings about meat --Homeschool Winner

[edit] Aught Four Crap(declined)

Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.

  • decline This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics" it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four" this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said. dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • second Apologies, I had never heard "aught-four" before in my life (or aught-anything, for that matter) and thought it had been invented by Strong Bad on the spur of the moment. Go ahead and delete it if it's not considered a reference to the e-mail. --Sokko
  • Accept. Although it is an accepted term, it's very rarely used (and isn't technically correct). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Revise - I've never heard "aught four" before, and if Strong Bad says it somewhere else then it is, as far as I'm concerned, a good enough reason to include. tompagenet 14:17, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • In English, "aught" means zero. --24.21.86.243 23:45, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • decline It's just another way of saying '04; it didn't originate on this site nor is it a specific reference to anything else. If he'd said "oh-four," this wouldn't even be an issue. --FortyTwo 14:42, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • But he didn't say "oh four", he said "aught four", which is actually pretty archaic and extremely uncommon. It's no coincidence that it was also said by Strong Bad in old comics. --Upsilon
  • Decline - I though Aught Four was Naught Four without the N. «Rob»
    • Second. I've heard people say that all the time!
  • Info: 'Aught is an old way of saying naught, an old term that means zero or nothing. It is still used in physics and chemistry when a variable has a zero as a subscript. -- The Real Zajac 16:04, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)

[edit] "Oh cwap" vs "I say.."(declined)

Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to The King of Town DVD, when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."

  • Uber-decline That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. super orange! the lone/first voter!
    • Uber-Second even if you thought that was so, Homestar says "I say" three times in the KoT dvd, and Homestar says "Oh cwap!" four times
    • D'oh! Well the connection positively jumped out at me and smacked me in the face--I think of it every time I see it. socetew
    • Second. - «Rob»

[edit] Broken phone(declined)

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, Salad Fingers Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for rusty metal, this might be intentional.

  • Decline. I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --Chrysaor
  • Decline. Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- Mithent 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --BegyLips
  • Decline. It's more than likely a reference to replacement rather than salad fingers. -- super orange!
    • i agree about it being a refrens to replasment and have never herd of "saled fingers"
    • But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
      • Because it implies poor quality? --Upsilon
      • Because it's in a box of useless stuff that Bubs didn't manage to sell. No one is going to buy a rusty steak knife, or electrical tape, or a banana with a toy arrow stabbed through the center. -- Nevrmore
  • Decline. Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.
    • Second. - «Rob»

[edit] Has what it takes(declined)

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

  • Decline. Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --Chrysaor
    • Second. --Lyzz
    • Second. Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --MadEwokHerd 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second-Clever Ben
    • Second. - «Rob»
  • Decline Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --super orange!
  • Decline This just sounds like the way he talks. That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--clhinton

i agree about homestarmy

[edit] Garfield X-mas(declined)

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the Garfield Christmas Special, in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

  • I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials before. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --Svelt
  • That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
    • Second. --thatkidsam strikes again!
      • This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --Svelt
  • Decline - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — sninky-chan 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
    • Second. Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- Mithent 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --Jay 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
    • Second tompagenet 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. --68.196.82.110 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --Jay 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Decline. For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --FortyTwo 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Candy Cane(declined)

The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the Decemberween In July menu.

  • Decline. The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including 'SBemail Xmas Menu' and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in this toon and a previous one. --The Paper
    • Second. - «Rob»
  • Decline. More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?" --Chrysaor

[edit] Egg Nog Glass(declined)

The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes.

  • Decline As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --Pianoplayerontheroof
  • Decline. Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second'd.evin290 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Dripping Sound(declined)

The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in Main Page 14.

  • Decline. Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second --kerrek_slaya
    • Second. Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? SailorHippyGirl
  • Decline. Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Alms for the poor(declined)

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

  • Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --evin290 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Wrong. Accept. It's true and should be referenced as such.ISlayedTheKerrek
    • Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. Kamek 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. Kamek 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Marzipan's Purse(declined)

This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

[edit] Screentime(declined)

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

  • Decline. Unimportant fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • complain about you STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
    • Second! --Pianoplayerontheroof
    • Second. Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- Mithent 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline No matter how popular he is the website's called homestarrunner.com not thecheat.com.
    • Complain!Nitpicky, ain't we? Who cares? ACCEPT! Just to shut you ip ISlayedTheKerrek

[edit] Homestar always confuses have and has(declined)

Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

  • No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" «Rob»
    • Second Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
  • Decline. Similar phrase, massive stretch. --Upsilon

[edit] Alms for the Pudgy(declined)

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

  • Decline. The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- FortyTwo 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] 1 on 1(declined)

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In Pumpkin Carve-nival, it was really Strong Bad, and in army he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

  • Decline. Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see theme park). --Upsilon
    • Second. MadEwokHerd 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. - «Rob»

Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - super orange

[edit] Electrical Tape?(declined)

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

  • Decline. That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - Rebochan 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --MadEwokHerd 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --homestarkid09
    • Second. What does "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape" mean anyway? - «Rob»
    • Second. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --Kerrek Slaya!
  • Accept. If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.

[edit] Malloween Commercial

[edit] Mallowcremes(declined)

"Malloweens" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.

  • Decline. It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

[edit] Decemberween Kids' Book

[edit] Magic Ball #1(declined)

The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the Palantir from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.

[edit] Magic Ball #2(declined)

The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.

[edit] Magic Ball #3(declined)

Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.

  • Decline. I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --Lyzz
    • Second. SB's magic ball only burns flesh when it glows, which doesn't apply to any of the above. --Svelt

[edit] impression

[edit] Elephant Slippers(declined)

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

  • Decline. This is a bit of a stretch. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --Upsilon

[edit] Get it off(declined)

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

Decline. I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think there's really a connection. -- Wilbur 13:15, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] personal favorites

[edit] The Beginning and the End(accepted)

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the Tandy 400 and the introduction of the Compy 386. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in invisibility and his interminable crying at the end of virus.

  • Rewrite. --Suicune64
  • Accept. That is interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --Upsilon
    • Second. --Gafaddict
    • Second. --sterrence
    • Second, but Rewrite. Good but took me a second read to understand. -- Mithent 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] anything

[edit] Dan Vs. Jerome 2(declined)

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

  • Oddly enough, this has been here for longer than two weeks and no one has voted. --MadEwokHerd 15:10, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Soda Physics(declined)

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

  • Delete. Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- Kamek

[edit] E-mail/E-nail & .exe/.com(declined)

Instead of typing "run sbemail.exe", Homestar types "run sbenail.com" --Ingeniousknight

  • I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Freshley's(declined)

One of Homestar's shoe box shoes is the same one as in the email "Time Capsule" when he had a "gross old wig".--Ingeniousknight

  • I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Computer or Chalkboard(declined)

At first, Homestar seems to think that the computer is a chalkboard. However, after writing his name, he uses it as a regular computer. Also, how does homestar know how to access Strongbad's e-mail? Could it be that he is always, as he says in 100, "behind the black"??? --Ingeniousknight

  • I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] The Old Man Fishin'(declined)

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from Peasant's Quest

  • Decline. Already mentioned in the button description. -- Kamek
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- Mithent 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. ??? O_0--Not Kevin (OK, I lied)
    • Second. --Lyzz~ 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Yeah, it's already mentioned. --Clever Ben
    • Second.Pretty obvious. --Wilbur 13:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second.That's really the point. The virus was messing everything up, so Peasant's quest was playing along side the screen. It's like saying 'When he gets the virus, the screen pours out on the floor'. Pop tire 22:26, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] the facts

[edit] G'oh!(accepted)

The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"

  • Accept. I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Accept. Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
  • Decline I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
  • agree That sure sounds like homer. -Nate
  • Revise & accept. change the word 'is' (in 'is a reference') to 'could be'. --Pianoplayerontheroof

[edit] Channel 3(declined)

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

  • Decline. I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --Chrysaor
  • Decline. Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --ED!smilde
  • Decline. Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --Lyzz
  • Delcine Who cares? It's too obvious and not "fun" at all --Clever Ben
  • Decline So what? Video Game Consoles do that too.

[edit] Homestar's cartoon(declined)

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really does eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

  • Rewrite/Decline. I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --Chrysaor
  • Decline -- Asploder
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --Upsilon
  • Weak Rewrite. Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see Ox. Engl. Dict. or dictionary.com). --Svelt

[edit] radio

[edit] Stop calling me Senator(declined)

Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2 when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --beanluc

  • Revise, accept. Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --MadEwokHerd 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

[edit] Four-and-twenty stone(declined)

1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

  • Decline. Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --Upsilon
    • Second. While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe TBC wouldn't promote marijuana here. --beanluc
    • Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --Svelt
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
    • Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Decline. The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --Lyzz
  • Decline. I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — sninky-chan
  • Decline. 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- thatkidsam
  • No vote from me on this, but 420 is the police code for marjuana possesion i believe and that is where the 4:20 comes from, pot smokers have a holiday of sorts on april 20th, and light up at 4:20 pm...not that i would know ,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. "4-and-20" is an old-fashioned way of saying 24, and "stone" is a unit of weight. -Clever Ben
  • Decline It is also referring to the adage that the camera (being on TV...) adds 16 pounds. So old-tyme Strong Bad is saying in an old-timey way that the radio makes him sound fat.-Anonymous

Four hundred twenty is not a refernce to the number of chemicals found in marijuana. It is not the time smokers light up. It is the police code for possession, though, and that's where the association of that number with pot smoking comes from. Just my two cents- I don't think that Sir Strong Bad's use of that specific number is any reference to marijuana. Stone is a measure of weight (about twenty pounds I believe) and so the statement is likely a reference to the commonly held superstition among actors that being on TV makes one look fat.

[edit] The fish was delish(declined)

Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

  • Decline. It's actually an old broadcasting clich� - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc

[edit] Crackity towel!(declined)

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in Halloween Fairstival.

  • Decline. A vast stretch. --Upsilon
  • Decline He's not even saying "crackity towel". He's repeating what Strong Sad said. -Clever Ben

[edit] Senor Cardgage(declined)

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like Senor Cardgage.

  • Decline. That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --Upsilon
  • Decline. The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --FortyTwo
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. If you ever listen to college radio they mumble a bunch and sound unprofessional.--ninja pirate 22:20, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Crackotage(declined)

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like Crackotage

  • Decline. Again, a vast stretch. --Upsilon
    • Second --FortyTwo
    • Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from Malloween Commercial sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --Svelt
    • Second. Kamek 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja

[edit] Bruce Almighty(declined)

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

  • Decline. A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --Upsilon
    • Second tompagenet 14:24, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --BegyLips
    • Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a Second. --RPharazon
    • That's what I needed to hear...Second. --BegyLips
    • Second. Kamek 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. The Real Zajac 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --Jay 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
    • Second. -- SailorHippyGirl
  • Decline. looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--J to the sag
  • Decline! "That's the way the cookie crumbles" is a common phrase that originated ages ago, if anything.

[edit] Plugged in(declined)

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

  • Decline. because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe rewrite to state that it's on the same DESK. --Jay 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Just not interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Highball!(accepted)

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in montage

  • Neutral This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --TheNintenGenius 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --Jay 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. --Svelt
    • Second. I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --Kamek 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --Ninjin Ninja

[edit] The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --beanluc

  • Decline. This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --Svelt
    • Withdrawn! Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --beanluc
  • Accept. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --kerrek_slaya
    • "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --Jay 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --Jay 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --Jay 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. DECLINE
  • sorry i thought this was the next fun fact up. my bad. -- kerrek_slaya

[edit] animal

[edit] Foster's Home(declined)

The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, Sterrance, could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

  • Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --Svelt
  • Decline. Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Decline. I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --Lyzz
    • I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --Svelt
  • Decline Guess what? There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin! Kevin is automatically a reference to this character! Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name! It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name! -Clever Ben

[edit] Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined)

The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -RPharazon

  • Decline. - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in Finding Nemo and elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --Jay 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. Kamek 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a friggin' ANGLERFISH for crying out loud!!! -Clever Ben

[edit] Pikmin thing?(declined)

the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

  • Note: I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played Pikmin and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --Shadow Hog 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--O&U
  • Decline There's some similarity, but I doubt it. --MadEwokHerd 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --TheNintenGenius
  • Second -Clever Ben

17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

    • Second. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --Ninjin Ninja
  • To quote Strong Bad: "No no no." Kamek 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Speculations, Again(declined)

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

  • Decline Stretch...huge stretch --ninja pirate 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second --Tiggera 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --oddtodd 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --Tim333 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline. Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --Upsilon

[edit] Finding Nemo(declined)

Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

  • Decline. Anglerfish are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --Upsilon
  • Revise & Accept change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an Anglerfish" and this could be ok! --Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.
  • accept MetaStar Hmm, I first mentioned this on the Deep Sea Fangly Fish page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
    • Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --Upsilon
  • Delete This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page Vannav
  • Decline Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
  • Decline - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to Nemo. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat
  • Decline How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling) -Clever Ben

[edit] Second Wall Breaking(declined)

This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

  • Decline. I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline.' I made a new Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. --Vannav
  • Decline A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --oddtodd
  • Decline It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --tender branson
  • Decline. Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --Upsilon
  • Decline The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Soolnd(declined)

The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

[edit] LCD Screen(declined)

When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

[edit] Ridiculous (declined)

The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

  • Decline With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --Vannav
    • Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --Upsilon
    • What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Whole-hearted second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second^243. Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard NEW not NO. --RPharazon
    • Second. -- Kamek
      • Second. Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- Mithent 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Decline. This is a no no. --The Real Zajac 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!
  • Decline. Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing. It's N-E-W Computers! --Clever Ben

[edit] Christmas Lights(revised and accepted)

The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.

  • Accept Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
    • Second Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --fatpie
      • That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --Upsilon
    • Please sign with --~~~; it's really easy. --oddtodd
  • Decline Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --oddtodd
  • Rewrite. I suggest:
Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].
...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --Upsilon
    • But.. in The Best Decemberween Ever they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --miket61
      • So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --Upsilon
    • I gotta Second this one. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Uh, what exactly are you seconding? Mister Mister 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
        • Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --Jay 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- Mithent 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. -- Kamek
    • Second. -- sterrence
    • Second. -- «Rob»
    • Second. -- madkayaker
    • Second. -- Tim333
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
    • Second. --Nevrmore
  • Decline Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. SailorHippyGirl
    • I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --Upsilon
      • "The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --Svelt
        • Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --Upsilon
  • Decline. We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Subject Line, etc.(declined)

This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for weird dream.

  • Decline Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. mail) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --oddtodd

[edit] Segmented Eyes(declined)

"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

  • Decline. Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --Upsilon
  • Accept. I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is not a scientific term at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.
        Even mudskippers (except Muddy) don't 'really' have "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --beanluc 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • I'd try again if I were you. --Jay 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --Svelt
      • It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --beanluc
      • Oh, what I meant was about 90% of the links don't use the term, and the rest use it incorrectly. --Svelt
      • True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --Jay 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --Upsilon
      • I didn't say it's commonly used. When it is used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean here, here and here. I can't find any credible evidence of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --beanluc
        • You've just given three different contexts completely unrelated to Ren & Stimpy in which "segmented eyes" is used. Thanks for saving me the trouble of proving my point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Accept. More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is comparatively rare; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. TBC watch Ren & Stimpy for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --Svelt
    • It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually very rare --beanluc
    • Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Decline. Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller. --Clever Ben

[edit] These Speculations(declined)

"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

  • Neutral. I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --Nerdular Nerdence 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --oddtodd
    • Second --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. This is perfectly reasonable. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --Tim333

[edit] Babies havin' babies(declined)

Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

  • Decline. I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --MadEwokHerd 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --Upsilon
  • Decline. The phrase refers to teen girls having children - another sign (or symptom) of the "desolation" and "chaos". --yeahyeah

[edit] check out all my dimensions(declined)

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to stunt double, "Check out all my dimensions."

  • Comment. Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --MadEwokHerd 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Pfff. Doubtful. Weak decline. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Strong Bad asking us to "check out" something again does not constitute a reference. --yeahyeah 21:58, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Sterrance (Accepted)

Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

VERDICT: This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Lappy Startup Screen (Moved to Talk page)

The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of Mac OS 8. --codeman38 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

VERDICT: After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the Talk:Lappy 486 page --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] The Price is Right... Again (Accepted)

The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show The Price Is Right.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for animal. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Weird laptop (Rewritten and Accepted)

After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

VERDICT: A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the Lappy 486 page. --TheEggman 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] virus

[edit] Bubs' Broken JPEG(declined)

Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the Thnikkaman sign taped on his shirt in monument. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

  • Modify, accept. I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --Upsilon

[edit] Strong Sad's face(declined)

Strong Sad's face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as livejournal.com. He uses these kinds of icons on his Strong Sad's Lament page.

  • Decline. Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --TheNintenGenius 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. Once and Only Once issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --The Paper
  • Accept. I didn't notice this. - «Rob»
    • On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. ~Hobo|talk
  • Decline. Blatently obvious. - J to the Sag
    • Second. Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --RPharazon
  • Rewrite. I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].

Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --oddtodd

[edit] One flash file(modified and accepted)

The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

  • Modify and keep. This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep -- Asploder
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Dito. →FireBird
  • Modify and accept. I think it should be changed to note that this is the only email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --sterrence
    • Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --Upsilon

[edit] Oh, a wise guy, eh?(declined)

Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the Three Stooges, where Curly uses the very same phrase often.

  • Delete. I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -Miss Free Country USA
    • Second. This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Delete. This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Keep. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. No evidence it's a reference. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. I don't think it's a reference. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Classic Three Stooges line. →FireBird
    • Second. Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --Mogul 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
    • Second Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --racerx_is_alive 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think it is interesting enough. «Rob»
    • Second. Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --The Paper 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a fact. This is speculation. --The Real Zajac 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept. TBC have made other Three Stooges references. Mister Mister 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Breaking the fourth wall(declined)

This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "flashback" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "for kids" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "the process" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "huttah!", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "extra plug" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

  • Trim and redirect. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Modify, keep This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Good point DG. «Rob»
    • Second. If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - tender branson
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --RPharazon
  • Delete I've made a Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --Vannav

[edit] Compy 386?? (page title) (declined)

The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

  • Keep. I think it's worthy enough to note. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. This one's okay. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Worth mentioning. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
    • The point is it's not any more notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. →FireBird
  • Decline. It's obvious and not exactly fun. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. «Rob»
  • Decline. Different headers are noted on the Strong Bad Email page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Extremely obvious. --gwr2004
  • DELETED.-- OK, I'm Kevin {trimmed - that was just awkward --Upsilon}

[edit] Email number(declined)

The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

  • Decline. Highly dubious. --Upsilon
    • Second. I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --RPharazon
    • Second. Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- Rebochan 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Not faintly plausible. -- Mithent 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. What?! --gwr2004
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - SailorHippyGirl
    • Second. I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --oddtodd 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. And what if someone had sent their gibberish email during the Tandy era? You seriously think that TBC really made that themselves? Pop tire 22:31, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Out in the black

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline. -- Tom 16:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

  • Delete. Doubtful. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Seems rather unlikely. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Not likely, that was a glitch. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. See previous. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Delete — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think it is a reference. «Rob»
    • Second. --The Paper 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Very unlikely. -- Mithent 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Linux

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to modify and accept. -- Tom 16:33, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

"Linux" is a Free Unix-like kernel originally written for the 386 by Linus Torvalds in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ("GNU/Linux").

  • Modify and keep. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. Needs the trimming. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep.→FireBird
  • Accept. «Rob»
  • Modify, keep. What about just linking to the Wikipedia Wikipedia:Linux article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --oddtodd 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- Mithent 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Computer Viruses(declined)

Computer viruses exist in the real world in addition to cartoons. Norton Anti Virus says I have twelve viruses on my computer right now (a new personal record).

  • Delete a thousand times over This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire life. Wow... You're a moron. →evin290 13:19, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept I didn't know that.
    • You're just trolling, aren't you? DELETE IT!! --Jay 13:36, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • I thought I knew what ridiculous was until this day. DELETED! --Tom H. (Homesmash Brother)
  • Delete in an hour --No Loafing 14:16, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Everybody knows that. --ultragm2003 10:12, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline WOW. And Palm pilots exist in cartoons and in the real world. And cell phones exist in cartoons and in the real world. And coachs exist in cartoons and in the real world. And football fields exist in cartoons and in the real world. Are you like dumb? Pop tire 22:35, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)

When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "stunt double", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --TheEggman 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)

The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "for kids".

VERDICT: A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --TheEggman 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)

Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of virus. --TheEggman 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] montage

[edit] Pants (revised and accepted)

Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

VERDICT: This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the montage page. --TheEggman 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Animal House(declined)

The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film Animal House, when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.

  • Decline. This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -Lyzz 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. While this does happen in a lot of movies, using it as the easy-way-out ending for a comedy pretty much began with Animal House, predating its use in other films like Legally Blonde (apparently; I've never seen it) and Fast Times at Ridgemont High. --poogas
  • Decline. Although this kind of montage probably did start with Animal House, this usage of it is probably just a parody of the whole cliche of the "what happened to _________" montage itself, rather than any particular film. (Besides, Animal House just said "[NAME] [GRADUATING CLASS] [FATE]," so this, which uses complete sentences (with lower case) cannot be a direct reference to it. Yes, I'm a geek...) --Jeffrey

[edit] headphones(declined)

When watching the flash file, during the montage of Strong Bad and the wagon falling in love, you can see that the headphones they use to listen to the record player aren't plugged into anything.

  • Very decline. We do not track problems "outside the wall" because they're irrelevant -- TBC didn't intend for you to see that. See the last paragraph of the Fun Facts section of the Standards document. --ryandesign 21:14, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Ain't that a drag?

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline. -Svelt 16:45, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

  • Decline. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →FireBird
  • Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -Svelt
  • Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →FireBird
  • Decline. This isn't even remotely interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not interesting enough. «Rob»
  • Decline. --Paliosun 19:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Absolutely not interesting. --gwr2004
    • Second. and too obvious. --The Paper 11:39, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Coincidence, and nothing more.

[edit] little animal

[edit] sdrawkcab(declined)

The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

  • Delete. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --Jay 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --Paliosun 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? Acorn 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →FireBird
  • Delete. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --TheNintenGenius 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote decline): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --Jay 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
      • It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. «Rob»
  • Decline. It's just a trick of the eye. --The Real Zajac 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --Upsilon
  • Baleeted! Delete! Delete! Delete! It is most definitly an optical illusion! --66.41.150.114

[edit] Shopping for Danger

[edit] Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends(accepted)

The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

  • Decline. Just a coincidence, maybe less.--Tiggera 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --oddtodd 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Maybe this is true. --The Real Zajac 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --Svelt
    • Second. The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --miket61

[edit] No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. (declined)

This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides The King of Town DVD that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline So what? →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --Asploder
    • Second. The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --Svelt
  • Decline. That's not very special. «Rob»
  • Decline. This isn't a noteworthy fact.

[edit] Reynold and Ghostbusters (modified)

Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to Ghostbusters II.

VERDICT: After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the Shopping for Danger page. --TheEggman 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Halloween Fairstival

[edit] Speaking(accepted)

This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

  • Accept Seems noteworthy to me. --Ogog
  • Modify. That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --Svelt
  • Accept. Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --Upsilon
  • Accept.--Lyzz

[edit] Page title(modified and accepted)

The page title is a reference to Malloween Commercial.

  • Accept/Rewrite: How is this a reference?-Fuzzy
  • Accept: This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --Ogog
  • Decline. It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Revise. It needs to clearly state that it is quoting Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk

]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

  • Modify and Accept — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. «Rob»

[edit] Dripping towel noise(declined)

The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from Main Page 14.

  • Accept: These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-Fuzzy
  • Decline. Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. «Rob»

[edit] Locka-room(declined)

The "locka-room" may be a reference to Teen Girl Squad, wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

  • Decline: This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-Fuzzy
  • Decline: It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --Ogog
  • Decline. Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I wouldn't call it a reference. «Rob»
  • Accept. It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in big white face and Blue Las-Alert. -My name is too long
  • Decline. This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --Tim333
  • Decline. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Accept. - [cubeboy]

[edit] Blue Star Ointment(modified and accepted)

Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show The Price is Right.

  • Accept/Rewrite: Where does TPIR come in to this?-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Accept. Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - «Rob»
  • Accept/Rewrite: I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - Rebochan 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Old man remedies (declined)

"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in Shopping for Danger.

  • Decline: This is a stretch.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Accept — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Three times is becoming a running gag? -- Mithent 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. A rather amusing gag. --Svelt
  • Decline. «Rob»
  • Decline. - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -Miss Free Country USA
  • Decline. However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on Shopping for Danger. --Upsilon

[edit] Breath-holding skill(declined)

Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the yearbook characters page.

  • Decline: ehh...-Fuzzy
  • Decline: I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
  • Decline. This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. It is too trivial. «Rob»

[edit] Philly Cheat Steak(accepted)

"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

  • Decline: Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-Fuzzy
  • Accept: I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
  • Accept. I think it's good enough to note. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline That's uber-obvious. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. «Rob»
  • Modify, accept I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) MetaStar
  • Accept. I didn't know this! -Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept: I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - Rebochan 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - J to the sag
  • Decline. Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

[edit] KoT and SBemail(declined)

When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

  • Decline: Again almost anyone could figure this out-Fuzzy
  • Decline. You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept I think it's an interesting idea. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. That's the joke. «Rob»
  • Decline. I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - J to the Sag
  • Move. This should be inserted into the transcript. --The Real Zajac 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. I think everybody can agree on that. - J to the Sag
    • Second. I do. --Svelt
      • Second.Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
  • Changed. Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --J to the Sag

[edit] Humminama What?(declined)

When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

[edit] Creeping Death(declined)

The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

  • Accept/Rewrite: I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see Carol). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --Svelt
  • Decline - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. «Rob»

[edit] WEAR FLIP FLOPS.(declined)

In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "WEAR A BIKINI!" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

  • Decline: This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. «Rob»
  • Decline. I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --The Real Zajac 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

[edit] All white stuff on his face(declined)

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.

[edit] Strong Mad's laugh(declined)

Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in helium. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

  • Decline: So, they changed his laugh. -Fuzzy
  • Decline. Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. OK. «Rob»
  • Decline. It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Abstain/Explanation: Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - Rebochan 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] "I blew it, man... I lose my touch."(modified and accepted)

(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

  • Accept. I didn't know that. -- Mithent 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify and Keep. I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Theme Song Video

[edit] Drink Me?

in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

  • Decline. Obvious. --gwr2004
  • Decline. Why is this one even being voted on? --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- Mithent 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - Rebochan 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Move. This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --The Real Zajac 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] World-Class Hole (Declined)

The hole in 20X6 is from 2 years.

  • Decline. I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. DG 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Kick the Can

[edit] Opposite approach (Declined)

The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --No Parking 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST) (Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

  • Decline. Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- thatkidsam 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] SWF File (Declined)

This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall.

  • Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --24.21.86.243 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --24.21.86.243 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Delete. ever try watching virus or flashback in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --kerrek_slaya PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
  • Delete. Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --Upsilon
    • Second. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- thatkidsam 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
  • BALEET er... DELETE!--No Loafing 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • DELETE That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- Bonkava
  • Decline This is on the special page that we have that's all about Fourth Wall Breaks. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- beanluc 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Relative (Declined)

Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

  • It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
    • Yes, it is. So Decline. -- Mithent 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
      • A little unclear, but basically a good one. Revise i think would be best. --kerrek_slaya
  • Revise To say Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand. -- The Real Zajac 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
  • Decline He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. «Rob»
  • And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --tiktak
    • Second. thatkidsam 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. «Rob»
      • Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
  • Decline. In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --Upsilon
    • Second that. --Ian 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Dilbert (Modified)

The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip Dilbert where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

Also seen worded as:

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like Dilbert's.

  • A classic Dilbert feature. Accept
  • Decline to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --65.188.66.12 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --racerx_is_alive 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept I dident know that
  • Accept the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --PolarBoy 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Buh-hubs (Modified)

In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in lunch special. - Tim

[edit] Someday (Declined)

In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to monster truck.

  • Decline: given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --65.188.66.12 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. «Rob»
  • Decline. Just a sentimental clich�, little resemblance to monster truck. --Upsilon
  • Decline. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. gwr2004 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • True dat. Second'd. --Ian 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --evin290 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] League of Women Voters (Declined)

"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

  • I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --24.21.86.243 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --corbmobile 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] other days

[edit] Thor? (DECLINED)

"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.

  • Decline. Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --evin290
    • Second. There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
    • Second. How could you think this was referring to that?
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --Lyzz
    • Second. --Donny vs Universe
    • Second. --MadEwokHerd 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--205.174.123.14 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Decemberween Teen Girl Squad

[edit] Three Noses? (declined)

Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.

  • Decline. Stretch. --Trogga 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --evin290
  • Decline. Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Real big stretch. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] dreamail

[edit] Decline of Video Gaming (declined)

When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to "The Decline of Video Gaming 2", a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from Final Fantasy X says the sentence in exactly the same manner.

I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.

  • Decline. Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --thatkidsam 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little stuffed full as it is. --Shadow Hog 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --RPharazon *tired of writing brackets*
  • Decline. The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --PolarBoy 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --Upsilon
      • Well, it does have two pronouns... --Jay 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.

[edit] Backwards joke (declined)

The backwards joke first appeared in 2 emails.

  • Decline. While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --PolarBoy 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. It's clearly not the same joke. --MadEwokHerd 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Not Plugged In (declined)

The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.

  • Decline So what? — InterruptorJones[[]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
    • Second
    • You can't second something without signing it! --Tim333
  • Decline The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
  • In part-time job Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. Decline. Sorry. --kerrek_slaya
    • In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --MadEwokHerd 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] ghosts

[edit] PETRA(declined)

The rock and role band "PETRA" relesed a CD in 1986 called "Captured In Time And Space." this may have a resenblents to the area strong sad is in.

  • Weak Decline. Not really that similar. I would've gone neutral but you made an entire heading for it and you spelled "resemblence" wrong. Completely wrong. Before adding your stuff, be sure to look at the standards page :-) →evin290 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. You used bad grammar and spelling, too. thatkidsam 16:53, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. "Time and space" is a common phrase. --Upsilon

[edit] Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True

[edit] Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts(declined)

In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

  • Delete Already mentioned in the Transcript. --Ooy
  • Accept The transcript mentions that Marzipan has no mouth, but not that this can be "clearly told".
  • Decline Frankly, Mr. Anonymous, I fail to see the difference in this case. --Jay 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. As mentioned, it's in the transcript. --Upsilon

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 1 / comic

[edit] VOIP(declined)

I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because VoIP is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.

  • Decline. Supreme stretch. --Jay 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
      • Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --Jay 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
      • Second Check the toon and the transcript - the abbreviation is "VoIP" while the sound used is "VOiP". If this was an intentional Voice over IP reference, they'd have used the lower-case "o" and the upper-case "I". --TheEggman 15:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
        • I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
  • Severe Decline Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --TheNintenGenius 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --Shadow Hog 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second'd!!! Dag, yo. --Upsilon
    • Second Kamek 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Secondevin290 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. -- Mithent 16:36, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second Writing a sound as a word is Otomotophoya. drivec
    • Second. «Rob»
      • The word is "Otomotopia". I'd really love to know where you got the "phoya" from. :-P --Jay 20:18, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
        • Don't you both mean "Onomatopoeia"? --Shadow Hog 11:02, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
          • Eh, I did a search and found the spelling I used. At least I had the right PRONUNCIATION. --Jay 19:56, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
            • "onomato" doesn't sound much like "otomoto", but you were mostly in the ball park, yes. --Shadow Hog 20:31, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
              • FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! I...Er... I mean Second. - RPharazon

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Quotation'd(declined)

When the Intercom Robot announces the next band is Kissyboots, it says, "Next up is "Kissyboots ", without the second quotation mark.

  • Neutral for now I don't think that's true lemme go check up on that. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. →evin290 11:56, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline I rewatched it and the second quotation is definitely in there. UNFACTUAL'Devin290 12:02, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This isn't even good enough for STUFF. --Upsilon

[edit] stunt double

[edit] Lemmer(declined)

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to Lem Sportsinterviews

  • Decline. Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →evin290 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline! According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. mathgrant 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second'd!!! And Lemke isn't his last name, he's called Mark Lemke -thatkidsam 16:01, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
  • Rewrite. I don't have the DVD, but if commentary says it's a reference to LEMKE, make say so. --Trogga 11:29, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] homsar

[edit] Heavy Lourde(declined)

"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

  • Decline. This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- sterrence
  • Fact, yes. Fun...no. Decline. sorry. -- kerrek_slaya
  • Decline. Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. «Rob»

[edit] huttah!

[edit] Title(declined)

The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

  • decline Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --super orange!
    • Second. «Rob»
    • Second. Kilroy/talk[[]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Neutral. I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --Lyzz
  • Decline. "This email is called old comics because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called the facts because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called flag day because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --Upsilon
    • Second.--FortyTwo 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. gwr2004 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
    • Second. --Trogga 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't notice it either. --MadEwokHerd 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --evin290 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
  • Second anything that says Decline. Big fat duh. Ian 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline I'll say it again. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Xycho

[edit] 20X6 vs. 1936

[edit] Dr Zoidberg(declined)

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.

  • Decline. That's nothing but a coincidence. --Tiggera 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
  • Decline This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. Nevrmore 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- thatkidsam 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Revise. I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.--RPharazon
  • many people say "robot" this way. declineing it all the way, man. sorry. --kerrek_slaya
  • Decline -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). Kamek 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

Stinko-strong DUHH-cline Even if TBC thought of Futurama when making the voice, I doubt it's a reference because isn't The Homestar Runner supposed to be in the year 1936, and Futurama supposed to be in the year 3000? DUH!--Brooks(Can't figure out how to make a username, but giganto fan of H*RWIki)

[edit] homestar hair

[edit] Losing his touch(declined)

Strong Bad sure seems to be losing his touch lately. This is the second email in a row, after "butt IQ", that is not funny.

  • Very very very strong Decline. And don't need to say why. --Trogga 12:44, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • I think this vote should be discounted because there is no reason provided.
      • Read the rules. You don't need to provide a reason except on a Revise/Rewrite vote. Anyway, it won't matter in this case since the fact has unanimous declines so far. --Jay 17:41, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline; That's opinion, not fact. In fact, this shouldn't even have been STUFF'd. This isn't "Select The Usable Fun Opinions". --Shadow Hog 19:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • What? Not the STUFO page? Oh, then I guess there isn't any reason not to DECLINE then. --Jay 21:08, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
    • Second'd - This page is SO getting out of hand. People are REALLY reaching... especially when they're submitting bald-faced lies, er, bald-faced opinions as facts. I know we're not supposed to say so, but this one should be DELTEATED --TheEggman 00:30, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • EXTREME Decline --No Loafing 14:14, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Accept We have no documented record of anybody laughing at either of these emails, besides laughing at how not-funny they are.
    • 9_9 Please stop making joke votes. This is not a valid Fun Fact at all (it's not objective in the least, and an information page MUST be objective). In fact, if I found this one on a page, I'd delete it without even thinking about STUFFing it. Not as though this one counts (not signed) but they're still stupid. (Can we make this a WikiTrollable offense?) --Jay 18:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Comment Well, at least this guy didn't sign it, so it doesn't matter now. Usually the joke votes aren't signed anyway though. Pop tire 22:46, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Cross toon facts

[edit] Trust (declined)

In both the The King of Town DVD and the In Search of the Yello Dello commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.

  • Decline-Common phrase. →FireBird
    • Decline Ditto. — InterruptorJones
    • Second. Duh and Double Duh →evin290 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
    • Second. I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --Upsilon
  • Decline I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →It's dot com
    • Second. Yeah. i remember that. " You shouldn't be Throwing anything with your back the way it is". erm....something like that

[edit] Parents (declined)

When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

  • Decline every last case Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --Jay 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Revise, Accept. Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
    • The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --TheEggman 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] pizzaz

[edit] Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised)

Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon", created by Bubs drawing the King of Town's description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

VERDICT: A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the pizzaz page. --TheEggman 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] New Intro (Declined)

The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

  • Accept. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --Shadow Hog 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?Donny vs Universe
    • Second. While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --TheEggman 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --tomstiff 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
    • Second As Homestar said, "Boring." --Joshua 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second--rsl12 21:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Comment The Brothers Chaps used a new SWF filename so they could tell the difference between it and the older intro. The HTML filename is still the same because it causes the new intro to be the default. This saves the trouble of changing all the link paths on other pages. --homestar3.14 11:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
  • Accept I read this one before it was STUFF'd. I thought it was pretty interesting, kind of. Kvb 13:38, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
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