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**Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller.  --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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==== These Speculations(declined) ====
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"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.
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*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting.  Wanted to run it by others.  --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
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*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
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Revision as of 23:08, 30 December 2004

The following fun facts have gone through the STUFF process.

This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts.

Contents

animal

Finding Nemo(declined)

Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

  • Decline. Anglerfish are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --Upsilon
  • Revise & Accept change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an Anglerfish" and this could be ok! --Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.
  • accept MetaStar Hmm, I first mentioned this on the Deep Sea Fangly Fish page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
    • Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --Upsilon
  • Delete This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page Vannav
  • Decline Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
  • Decline - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to Nemo. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat
  • Decline How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling) -Clever Ben

Second Wall Breaking(declined)

This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

  • Decline. I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline.' I made a new Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. --Vannav
  • Decline A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --oddtodd
  • Decline It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --tender branson
  • Decline. Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --Upsilon
  • Decline The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Soolnd(declined)

The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

LCD Screen(declined)

When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

Ridiculous (declined)

The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

  • Decline With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --Vannav
    • Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --Upsilon
    • What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Whole-hearted second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second^243. Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard NEW not NO. --RPharazon
    • Second. -- Kamek
      • Second. Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- Mithent 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Decline. This is a no no. --The Real Zajac 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!
  • Decline. Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing. It's N-E-W Computers! --Clever Ben

Christmas Lights(revised and accepted)

The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.

  • Accept Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
    • Second Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --fatpie
      • That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --Upsilon
    • Please sign with --~~~; it's really easy. --oddtodd
  • Decline Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --oddtodd
  • Rewrite. I suggest:
Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].
...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --Upsilon
    • But.. in The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --miket61
      • So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --Upsilon
    • I gotta Second this one. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Uh, what exactly are you seconding? Mister Mister 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
        • Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --Jay 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- Mithent 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. -- Kamek
    • Second. -- sterrence
    • Second. -- Rainer
    • Second. -- madkayaker
    • Second. -- Tim333
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
    • Second. --Nevrmore
  • Decline Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. SailorHippyGirl
    • I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --Upsilon
      • "The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --Svelt
        • Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --Upsilon
  • Decline. We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Subject Line, etc.(declined)

This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for weird dream.

  • Decline Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. mail) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --oddtodd

Segmented Eyes(declined)

"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

  • Decline. Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --Upsilon
  • Accept. I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is not a scientific term at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.
        Even mudskippers (except Muddy) don't 'really' have "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --beanluc 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • I'd try again if I were you. --Jay 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --Svelt
      • It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --beanluc
      • Oh, what I meant was about 90% of the links don't use the term, and the rest use it incorrectly. --Svelt
      • True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --Jay 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --Upsilon
      • I didn't say it's commonly used. When it is used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean here, here and here. I can't find any credible evidence of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --beanluc
        • You've just given three different contexts completely unrelated to Ren & Stimpy in which "segmented eyes" is used. Thanks for saving me the trouble of proving my point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Accept. More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is comparatively rare; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. TBC watch Ren & Stimpy for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --Svelt
    • It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually very rare --beanluc
    • Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Decline. Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller. --Clever Ben

These Speculations(declined)

"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

  • Neutral. I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --Nerdular Nerdence 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --oddtodd
    • Second --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. This is perfectly reasonable. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --Tim333

virus

Out in the black

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline. -- Tom 16:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

  • Delete. Doubtful. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Seems rather unlikely. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Not likely, that was a glitch. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. See previous. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Delete — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think it is a reference. - Rainer
    • Second. --The Paper 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Very unlikely. -- Mithent 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Linux

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to modify and accept. -- Tom 16:33, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

"Linux" is a Free Unix-like kernel originally written for the 386 by Linus Torvalds in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ("GNU/Linux").

  • Modify and keep. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. Needs the trimming. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep.→FireBird
  • Accept. - Rainer
  • Modify, keep. What about just linking to the Wikipedia Wikipedia:Linux article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --oddtodd 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- Mithent 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)


montage

Ain't that a drag?

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline. -Svelt 16:45, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

  • Decline. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →FireBird
  • Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -Svelt
  • Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →FireBird
  • Decline. This isn't even remotely interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not interesting enough. - Rainer
  • Decline. --Paliosun 19:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Absolutely not interesting. --gwr2004
    • Second. and too obvious. --The Paper 11:39, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Coincidence, and nothing more.
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