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==== Foster's Home(declined) ====
The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [ Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.
*Yeah....  Um. Yeah.  I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it.  You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 12:36, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' Guess what?  There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin!  [[Kevin]] is automatically a reference to this character!  Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name!  It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name!  -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined) ====
==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined) ====

Revision as of 23:02, 5 January 2005

The following fun facts have gone through the STUFF process.

This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts.


Homestar Presents: Presents

Broken phone(declined)

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, Salad Fingers Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for rusty metal, this might be intentional.

  • Decline. I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --Chrysaor
  • Decline. Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- Mithent 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --BegyLips
  • Decline. It's more than likely a reference to replacement rather than salad fingers. -- super orange!
    • i agree about it being a refrens to replasment and have never herd of "saled fingers"
    • But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
      • Because it implies poor quality? --Upsilon
      • Because it's in a box of useless stuff that Bubs didn't manage to sell. No one is going to buy a rusty steak knife, or electrical tape, or a banana with a toy arrow stabbed through the center. -- Nevrmore
  • Decline. Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.

Has what it takes(declined)

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

  • Decline. Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --Chrysaor
    • Second. --Lyzz
    • Second. Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --MadEwokHerd 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second-Clever Ben
    • Second. - Rainer
  • Decline Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --super orange!
  • Decline This just sounds like the way he talks. That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--clhinton

i agree about homestarmy

Garfield X-mas(declined)

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the Garfield Christmas Special, in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

  • I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials before. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --Svelt
  • That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
    • Second. --thatkidsam strikes again!
      • This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --Svelt
  • Decline - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — sninky-chan 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
    • Second. Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- Mithent 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --Jay 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
    • Second tompagenet 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. -- 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --Jay 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Decline. For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --FortyTwo 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)

Candy Cane(declined)

The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the Decemberween In July menu.

  • Decline. The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including 'SBemail Xmas Menu' and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in this toon and a previous one. --The Paper
  • Decline. More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?" --Chrysaor


Elephant Slippers(declined)

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

  • Decline. This is a bit of a stretch. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --Upsilon

Get it off(declined)

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

Decline. I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think there's really a connection. -- Wilbur 13:15, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

personal favorites

The Beginning and the End(accepted)

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the Tandy 400 and the introduction of the Compy 386. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in invisibility and his interminable crying at the end of virus.

  • Rewrite. --Suicune64
  • Accept. That is interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --Upsilon
    • Second. --Gafaddict
    • Second. --sterrence
    • Second, but Rewrite. Good but took me a second read to understand. -- Mithent 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)


Dan Vs. Jerome 2(declined)

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

  • Oddly enough, this has been here for longer than two weeks and no one has voted. --MadEwokHerd 15:10, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Soda Physics(declined)

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

  • Delete. Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- Kamek

E-mail/E-nail & .exe/.com(declined)

Instead of typing "run sbemail.exe", Homestar types "run" --Ingeniousknight

  • I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)


One of Homestar's shoe box shoes is the same one as in the email "Time Capsule" when he had a "gross old wig".--Ingeniousknight

  • I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

Computer or Chalkboard(declined)

At first, Homestar seems to think that the computer is a chalkboard. However, after writing his name, he uses it as a regular computer. Also, how does homestar know how to access Strongbad's e-mail? Could it be that he is always, as he says in 100, "behind the black"??? --Ingeniousknight

  • I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

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The Old Man Fishin'(declined)

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from Peasant's Quest

  • Decline. Already mentioned in the button description. -- Kamek
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- Mithent 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. ??? O_0--Not Kevin (OK, I lied)
    • Second. --Lyzz~ 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Yeah, it's already mentioned. --Clever Ben
    • Second.Pretty obvious. --Wilbur 13:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

the facts


The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"

  • Accept. I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Accept. Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
  • Decline I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
  • agree That sure sounds like homer. -Nate
  • Revise & accept. change the word 'is' (in 'is a reference') to 'could be'. --Pianoplayerontheroof

Channel 3(declined)

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

  • Decline. I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --Chrysaor
  • Decline. Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --ED!smilde
  • Decline. Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --Lyzz
  • Delcine Who cares? It's too obvious and not "fun" at all --Clever Ben
  • Decline So what? Video Game Consoles do that too.

Homestar's cartoon(declined)

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really does eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

  • Rewrite/Decline. I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --Chrysaor
  • Decline -- Asploder
  • Decline. Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --Upsilon
  • Weak Rewrite. Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see Ox. Engl. Dict. or --Svelt


Stop calling me Senator(declined)

Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2 when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --beanluc

  • Revise, accept. Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --MadEwokHerd 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Four-and-twenty stone(declined)

1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

  • Decline. Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --Upsilon
    • Second. While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe TBC wouldn't promote marijuana here. --beanluc
    • Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --Svelt
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
    • Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Decline. The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --Lyzz
  • Decline. I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — sninky-chan
  • Decline. 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- thatkidsam
  • No vote from me on this, but 420 is the police code for marjuana possesion i believe and that is where the 4:20 comes from, pot smokers have a holiday of sorts on april 20th, and light up at 4:20 pm...not that i would know ,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. "4-and-20" is an old-fashioned way of saying 24, and "stone" is a unit of weight. -Clever Ben
  • Decline It is also referring to the adage that the camera (being on TV...) adds 16 pounds. So old-tyme Strong Bad is saying in an old-timey way that the radio makes him sound fat.-Anonymous

The fish was delish(declined)

Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

  • Decline. It's actually an old broadcasting cliché - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc

Crackity towel!(declined)

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in Halloween Fairstival.

  • Decline. A vast stretch. --Upsilon
  • Decline He's not even saying "crackity towel". He's repeating what Strong Sad said. -Clever Ben

Senor Cardgage(declined)

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like Senor Cardgage.

  • Decline. That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --Upsilon
  • Decline. The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --FortyTwo
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. If you ever listen to college radio they mumble a bunch and sound unprofessional.--ninja pirate 22:20, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)


Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like Crackotage

  • Decline. Again, a vast stretch. --Upsilon
    • Second --FortyTwo
    • Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from Malloween Commercial sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --Svelt
    • Second. Kamek 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja

Bruce Almighty(declined)

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

  • Decline. A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --Upsilon
    • Second tompagenet 14:24, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --BegyLips
    • Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a Second. --RPharazon
    • That's what I needed to hear...Second. --BegyLips
    • Second. Kamek 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. The Real Zajac 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --Jay 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
    • Second. -- SailorHippyGirl
  • Decline. looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--J to the sag
  • Decline! "That's the way the cookie crumbles" is a common phrase that originated ages ago, if anything.

Plugged in(declined)

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

  • Decline. because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe rewrite to state that it's on the same DESK. --Jay 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Just not interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)


The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in montage

  • Neutral This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --TheNintenGenius 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --Jay 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Pretty clear. --Svelt
    • Second. I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --Kamek 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --Ninjin Ninja


Foster's Home(declined)

The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, Sterrance, could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

  • Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --Svelt
  • Decline. Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Decline. I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --Lyzz
    • I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --Svelt
  • Decline Guess what? There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin! Kevin is automatically a reference to this character! Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name! It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name! -Clever Ben

Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined)

The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -RPharazon

  • Decline. - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in Finding Nemo and elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --Jay 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. Kamek 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline It's a friggin' ANGLERFISH for crying out loud!!! -Clever Ben

Pikmin thing?(declined)

the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

  • Note: I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played Pikmin and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --Shadow Hog 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--O&U
  • Decline There's some similarity, but I doubt it. --MadEwokHerd 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --TheNintenGenius
  • Second -Clever Ben

17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

    • Second. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --Ninjin Ninja
  • To quote Strong Bad: "No no no." Kamek 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

Speculations, Again(declined)

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

  • Decline Stretch...huge stretch --ninja pirate 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second --Tiggera 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --oddtodd 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --Tim333 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
  • Decline. Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --Upsilon

Finding Nemo(declined)

Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

  • Decline. Anglerfish are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --Upsilon
  • Revise & Accept change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an Anglerfish" and this could be ok! --Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.
  • accept MetaStar Hmm, I first mentioned this on the Deep Sea Fangly Fish page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
    • Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --Upsilon
  • Delete This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page Vannav
  • Decline Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
  • Decline - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to Nemo. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat
  • Decline How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling) -Clever Ben

Second Wall Breaking(declined)

This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

  • Decline. I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline.' I made a new Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. --Vannav
  • Decline A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --oddtodd
  • Decline It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --tender branson
  • Decline. Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --Upsilon
  • Decline The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)


The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

LCD Screen(declined)

When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

Ridiculous (declined)

The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

  • Decline With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --Vannav
    • Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --Upsilon
    • What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Whole-hearted second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second^243. Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks'. I also DISTINCTLY heard NEW not NO. --RPharazon
    • Second. -- Kamek
      • Second. Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- Mithent 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
  • Decline. This is a no no. --The Real Zajac 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!
  • Decline. Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing. It's N-E-W Computers! --Clever Ben

Christmas Lights(revised and accepted)

The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.

  • Accept Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
    • Second Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H* This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --fatpie
      • That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --Upsilon
    • Please sign with --~~~; it's really easy. --oddtodd
  • Decline Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --oddtodd
  • Rewrite. I suggest:
Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --Upsilon
    • But.. in The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --miket61
      • So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --Upsilon
    • I gotta Second this one. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
      • Uh, what exactly are you seconding? Mister Mister 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
        • Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --Jay 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- Mithent 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. -- Kamek
    • Second. -- sterrence
    • Second. -- Rainer
    • Second. -- madkayaker
    • Second. -- Tim333
    • Second. --Ninjin Ninja
    • Second. --Nevrmore
  • Decline Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. SailorHippyGirl
    • I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --Upsilon
      • "The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --Svelt
        • Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --Upsilon
  • Decline. We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Subject Line, etc.(declined)

This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for weird dream.

  • Decline Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. mail) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --oddtodd

Segmented Eyes(declined)

"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

  • Decline. Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --Upsilon
  • Accept. I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is not a scientific term at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.
        Even mudskippers (except Muddy) don't 'really' have "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --beanluc 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • I'd try again if I were you. --Jay 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --Svelt
      • It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --beanluc
      • Oh, what I meant was about 90% of the links don't use the term, and the rest use it incorrectly. --Svelt
      • True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --Jay 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --Upsilon
      • I didn't say it's commonly used. When it is used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean here, here and here. I can't find any credible evidence of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --beanluc
        • You've just given three different contexts completely unrelated to Ren & Stimpy in which "segmented eyes" is used. Thanks for saving me the trouble of proving my point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
  • Accept. More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is comparatively rare; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. TBC watch Ren & Stimpy for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --Svelt
    • It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually very rare --beanluc
    • Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
  • Decline. Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller. --Clever Ben

These Speculations(declined)

"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

  • Neutral. I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --Nerdular Nerdence 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --oddtodd
    • Second --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. This is perfectly reasonable. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --Tim333


Bubs' Broken JPEG(declined)

Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the Thnikkaman sign taped on his shirt in monument. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

  • Modify, accept. I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --Upsilon

Strong Sad's face(declined)

Strong Sad's face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as He uses these kinds of icons on his Strong Sad's Lament page.

  • Decline. Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --TheNintenGenius 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. Once and Only Once issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --The Paper
  • Accept. I didn't notice this. - Rainer
    • On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. ~Hobo|talk
  • Decline. Blatently obvious. - J to the Sag
    • Second. Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME knowledge would know. --RPharazon
  • Rewrite. I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].

Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --oddtodd

One flash file(modified and accepted)

The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

  • Modify and keep. This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep -- Asploder
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Dito. →FireBird
  • Modify and accept. I think it should be changed to note that this is the only email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --sterrence
    • Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --Upsilon

Oh, a wise guy, eh?(declined)

Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the Three Stooges, where Curly uses the very same phrase often.

  • Delete. I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -Miss Free Country USA
    • Second. This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Delete. This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • 'Keep. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. No evidence it's a reference. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. I don't think it's a reference. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Classic Three Stooges line. →FireBird
    • Second. Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --Mogul 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
    • Second Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --racerx_is_alive 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think it is interesting enough. - Rainer
    • Second. Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --The Paper 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is not a fact. This is speculation. --The Real Zajac 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Accept. TBC have made other Three Stooges references. Mister Mister 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

Breaking the fourth wall(declined)

This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "flashback" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "for kids" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "the process" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "huttah!", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "extra plug" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

  • Trim and redirect. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Rewrite. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Modify, keep This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Good point DG. - Rainer
    • Second. If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - tender branson
    • Second. --Upsilon
    • Second. --RPharazon
  • Delete I've made a Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --Vannav

Compy 386?? (page title) (declined)

The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

  • Keep. I think it's worthy enough to note. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. This one's okay. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Worth mentioning. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
    • The point is it's not any more notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. →FireBird
  • Decline. It's obvious and not exactly fun. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -DG 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. - Rainer
  • Decline. Different headers are noted on the Strong Bad Email page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --Upsilon
  • Decline. Extremely obvious. --gwr2004
  • DELETED.-- OK, I'm Kevin {trimmed - that was just awkward --Upsilon}

Email number(declined)

The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

  • Decline. Highly dubious. --Upsilon
    • Second. I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --RPharazon
    • Second. Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- Rebochan 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Not faintly plausible. -- Mithent 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. What?! --gwr2004
    • Second. --The Real Zajac 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - SailorHippyGirl
    • Second. I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --oddtodd 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Out in the black

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline. -- Tom 16:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

  • Delete. Doubtful. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Seems rather unlikely. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Not likely, that was a glitch. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. See previous. --Jay 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. →FireBird
  • Delete — InterruptorJones[[]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I don't think it is a reference. - Rainer
    • Second. --The Paper 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. Very unlikely. -- Mithent 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)


This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to modify and accept. -- Tom 16:33, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

"Linux" is a Free Unix-like kernel originally written for the 386 by Linus Torvalds in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ("GNU/Linux").

  • Modify and keep. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down. -- Tom 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --TheNintenGenius 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep. Needs the trimming. --Paliosun 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, keep.→FireBird
  • Accept. - Rainer
  • Modify, keep. What about just linking to the Wikipedia Wikipedia:Linux article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --oddtodd 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- Mithent 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)


Ain't that a drag?

This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline. -Svelt 16:45, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

  • Decline. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →FireBird
  • Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -Svelt
  • Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →FireBird
  • Decline. This isn't even remotely interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not interesting enough. - Rainer
  • Decline. --Paliosun 19:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Absolutely not interesting. --gwr2004
    • Second. and too obvious. --The Paper 11:39, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Coincidence, and nothing more.

little animal


The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

  • Delete. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --Jay 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --Paliosun 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? Acorn 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Keep. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →FireBird
  • Delete. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --TheNintenGenius 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote decline): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --Jay 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
      • It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Decline. It's just a trick of the eye. --The Real Zajac 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
  • Decline. I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --Upsilon
  • Baleeted! Delete! Delete! Delete! It is most definitly an optical illusion! --

Shopping for Danger

Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends(accepted)

The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

  • Decline. Just a coincidence, maybe less.--Tiggera 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --oddtodd 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Maybe this is true. --The Real Zajac 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --Svelt
    • Second. The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --miket61

No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. (declined)

This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides The King of Town DVD that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify, Keep It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline So what? →FireBird
  • Modify and Keep I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --Asploder
    • Second. The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --Svelt
  • Decline. That's not very special. - Rainer
  • Decline. This isn't a noteworthy fact.

Halloween Fairstival


This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

  • Accept Seems noteworthy to me. --Ogog
  • Modify. That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --Svelt
  • Accept. Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --Upsilon
  • Accept.--Lyzz

Page title(modified and accepted)

The page title is a reference to Malloween Commercial.

  • Accept/Rewrite: How is this a reference?-Fuzzy
  • Accept: This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --Ogog
  • Decline. It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Revise. It needs to clearly state that it is quoting Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk

]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

Dripping towel noise(declined)

The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from Main Page 14.

  • Accept: These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-Fuzzy
  • Decline. Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - Rainer


The "locka-room" may be a reference to Teen Girl Squad, wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

  • Decline: This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-Fuzzy
  • Decline: It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --Ogog
  • Decline. Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. I wouldn't call it a reference. - Rainer
  • Accept. It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in big white face and Blue Las-Alert. -My name is too long
  • Decline. This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --Tim333
  • Decline. - SailorHippyGirl
  • Accept. - [cubeboy]

Blue Star Ointment(modified and accepted)

Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show The Price is Right.

  • Accept/Rewrite: Where does TPIR come in to this?-Fuzzy
  • Modify, Accept. Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Accept/Rewrite: I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - Rebochan 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Old man remedies (declined)

"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in Shopping for Danger.

Breath-holding skill(declined)

Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the yearbook characters page.

  • Decline: ehh...-Fuzzy
  • Decline: I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
  • Decline. This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. It is too trivial. - Rainer

Philly Cheat Steak(accepted)

"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

  • Decline: Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-Fuzzy
  • Accept: I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
  • Accept. I think it's good enough to note. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline That's uber-obvious. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - Rainer
  • Modify, accept I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) MetaStar
  • Accept. I didn't know this! -Miss Free Country USA
  • Accept: I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - Rebochan 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - J to the sag
  • Decline. Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

KoT and SBemail(declined)

When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

  • Decline: Again almost anyone could figure this out-Fuzzy
  • Decline. You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept I think it's an interesting idea. unknownwarrior33 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. That's the joke. - Rainer
  • Decline. I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - J to the Sag
  • Move. This should be inserted into the transcript. --The Real Zajac 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
    • Second. I think everybody can agree on that. - J to the Sag
    • Second. I do. --Svelt
      • Second.Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
  • Changed. Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --J to the Sag

Humminama What?(declined)

When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

Creeping Death(declined)

The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

  • Accept/Rewrite: I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see Carol). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
    • Second. If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --Svelt
  • Decline - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. - Rainer

WEAR FLIP FLOPS.(declined)

In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "WEAR A BIKINI!" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

  • Decline: This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-Fuzzy
  • Decline. - Rainer
  • Decline. I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --The Real Zajac 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

All white stuff on his face(declined)

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.

Strong Mad's laugh(declined)

Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in helium. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

  • Decline: So, they changed his laugh. -Fuzzy
  • Decline. Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --TheNintenGenius 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Accept. OK. - Rainer
  • Decline. It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Abstain/Explanation: Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - Rebochan 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

"I blew it, man... I lose my touch."(modified and accepted)

(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

  • Accept. I didn't know that. -- Mithent 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Modify and Keep. I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Theme Song Video

Drink Me?

in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

  • Decline. Obvious. --gwr2004
  • Decline. Why is this one even being voted on? --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- Mithent 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Second Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - Rebochan 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
    • Move. This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --The Real Zajac 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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