HRWiki talk:Questions

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[edit] Moved Conversations

[edit] Has The Wiki Helped?

"Has the wiki helped you in any way?"

In the commentary for "animal", Mike says "[Strong Bad] says 'segmented eyes', but he actually has compound eyes. Read that on the wiki."

Yes, that's true. Surely that's not the only case, though. In fact, the wiki would be a wonderful resource for them if they needed to look something up for continuity or consistency, similar to the way J.K. Rowling admitted visiting fan sites when she couldn't remember the exact details of one of her previous books and needed to look it up real quick. — It's dot com

Assuming the response Matt gave on mibluvr13's user page is authentic, it appears that TBC do in fact use our Wiki often, in much the same way Rowling uses fan sites. Heimstern Läufer 06:56, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Why were A Jumping Jack Contest and Marshmallow's Last Stand removed from the site?

In a interview Matt says "Those will be back on someday. We can’t disclose why they're off, it’s a personal reason. If all goes well, they’ll be back on the site; we’d like to have everything we’ve ever done on the site, and it sucks we had to take them of. They’ll be back on someday." (trogga)

Well, that's more of an explanation, not an answer to the question. Whatever the true reason is, it's gotta be something out of their control. — It's dot com

Perhaps the guy who helped them make them in the first place, (I think there was somebody different in the credits) didn't want them displayed anymore? I dunno, 'tis a curiosity. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 23:49, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Upgrade Sub-page?

I'm surprised this little sub-page has grown so quickly. Should we make this into some kind of HRWiki official type page, open it up to whatever questions, and build a big database of unknowns we'd like answers to, in case any of us get the chance to ask TBC any of them? I mean, some of them even THEY probably don't know the answer to, such as the 'Feed The Childrens' one, but some of them aren't too bad. In any case, I'm gonna reformat it in a few days, and depending on how big it gets, into different catagories. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 23:34, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Decline: Truly, I think its a worthwile and useful page, but it just isn't content fit for an article. — Lapper (talk) 14:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Haha, don't worry, this isn't STUFF. I just felt like throwing it out there during the inital rush of questions. They're coming pretty slow now, I think this sub-page will work just fine. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 00:17, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't see why it couldn't be a page in the HRWiki namespace. You'd have to do away with the notable/other label, since that's pretty subjective. — It's dot com 00:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

You really think so? It's true, you would need some reformating, but you gotta admit, some of them are a bit... stupid. We'd probably need some kinda rating system of sorts. Nothing as complex as STUFF of course, but something organized. Any ideas? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 07:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Why not use the HRWiki:Featured Article Selection format? --Sam Goldfish 22:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... Okay, I'm gonna get on this. First we need to decide on a page though. HRWiki:Questions perhaps? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 22:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Da Vinci's Notebook

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the question of how TBC met Da Vinci's Notebook been answered in the DVD commentary to Ballad Of The Sneak? 86.141.237.65 00:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Quite correct, I'm updating to denote. Thanks. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 00:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshot

This page needs an applicable screenshot. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 22:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category

This page also needs a category of some kind. --DorianGray

Why not make a category for WikiProjects? —BazookaJoe 23:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Who did H*R get raised by? In other words, who were/are H*R's parents?SPONGE 001 01:18, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

See Don Chapman and Harriet Chapman. They're the closest thing to parents you'll ever see on the site. Also see the five things never to email Strong Bad about. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.SPONGE 001 01:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is Homeschool Winner an old version of Homsar?

How is this question answered? I don't how this sketch answers it. --Sam Goldfish 07:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Homeschool Winner's name came from a mistake a friend of the Brothers Chaps made. He was intened to be "a big nerd, with maybe a creepy edge to him." Homsar on the other hand was from the start designed differently on the aspect of looks and behavior. Exept that they both have white skin and no arms they are completely different. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 07:58, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Same color scheme, both are Homestar-like characters, both were named after attempts to say/spell "Homestar"; they seem selfsame to me. --Sam Goldfish 08:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

While true, one is not the successor of another. If both were created because of mistakes, then they can't possibly refer to one another. TBC didn't even thought of the name and character Homsar until his email was sent, so how could they design him based on Homeschool? The sketchbook clearly shows that they looked different from the beginning. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 08:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Surely those can't be the only sketches. --Sam Goldfish 02:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Answered questions on talk page

(Re: [1]) Why would answered questions do better on the talk page? I think they would go on the project page just fine, especially in the format that they're in now. I think the page should proudly display its answered questions, not just the unanswered ones. —BazookaJoe 13:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

If we move them, they shouldn't be struck out like they are on this page. — It's dot com 01:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Note: back in March, I had tinkered with a format that looks like this. —BazookaJoe 01:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

It would be more appropriate in the page itself. We could resurrect the venerable/dreaded {{tick}} template ()! That or mix it with BazookaJoe's suggestion.--Stux 06:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

We should put them there because I accidentally put one that was already answered and there might be others who will try to do that. (The question is gone now, it involved Cardboard Marzipan) Maybe we could italitize the question instead of striking it out, and maybe include a link to the page where the question is answered if possible. (for example, the answer to that question could include a link to Happy Fireworks#DVD Commentary. I'll give you 3-5 days, and if no one objects I'll move them to the actual page. Bad Bad Guy 00:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't object to moving them, but you should wait for actual discussion, not the absence of it, before doing so. (I say this because this thread has been open for five months with no mandate emerging.) — It's dot com 01:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I think that the Talk page is not the appropriate place for answered questions to appear. They are genuine content of significance to the Questions Project so don't fit in the scope of Talk. Putting them in the article proper makes sense to me — maybe someday down the road if the page grows overly long we could consider how to break it into subpages but we can jump of that bridge when we come to it. —BryanCTC 02:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest that a separate subsection of the page be devoted to answered questions, and use formatting to distinguish the answer, rather than leave the question in the content and apply a tick box. But they do belong on the article. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I also think a subsection sounds nice. It just bugs me how a few of my messages, like Talk:Secret Pages#Kick the Cheat went eight days without a reply before I went ahead and added the game. Bad Bad Guy 04:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Although at the time it may have made sense, I don't see why the answered questions should be relegated to a section of the talk page. I do think they fare better in as content in the main page under a section heading in and of itself (the answers themselves could even be subcategorized.) My original "tick" suggestion was meant to replace the ugly strikethrough used in the talk page. I think that at the time I assumed the questions would be in their own section, as they should be. --Stux 23:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm giving it a shot... Bad Bad Guy 22:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rating System

Since this is no longer under my subpage control, this page also needs a less biased rating system. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 22:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

This issue hasn't really been addressed, and I think it needs to be. "Most pressing" and "other" are way too subjective. We should probably group the questions into subcategories, but I'm not sure what they should be. — It's dot com 19:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd say "Personal", "Thought-process", "Dialogue", "Identity", "Continuity", and "Miscellaneous". There probably need to be more added, though. — Lapper (talk) 19:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I reworked this somewhat based on this discussion, a couple of catagories did not have easy names (Toon Related or Feature Related OR Whats and Whys for instance) and I personally don't see all the "Most Pressing" as all that pressing and wanted to move some of them, but decided that since they've been considered pressing I wouldn't just pick them up and mix them in, but I still want to in a lot of cases. - ISTC 14:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The "Most pressing" bit was from when the page was moved from Thunderbird's subpage, where is was "Thunderbird's Top 10 Questions". Now that it's in the general HRWiki namespace, it can be removed. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 16:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hypoublade

I am surprised to see that question in this page. Ever since I've seen the "Hypoublade" disk, I simply assume that this was the way Homestar would "pronounce" Hyperblade. Even the page itself says that. So the question is a little unclear. Are we trying to ask how the floppy got there? Or the purpose of doing a "Homestar pronounciation"? (or if Homestar even owns it?) That kind of thing? --Stux 21:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Ooops! You know I have a backlog of SBEmails and toons to watch (I stopped at 159A/B). So I better start watching again soon! --Stux 16:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Craig Zobel's birthday

There are several comments on Craig Zobel's myspace around October 6th wishing him a happy birthday. Is that enough of a confirmation? —Zelinda 20:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

You may be on to something there, Mib. Is there someplace in a Myspace profile where a user can specify what their birthday is? It appears that the first birthday wish came in on October 5. I don't think this gives us the exact day, but it's close. — Joey (talk·edits) 19:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Bad's Emotions

Does anyone else think I should delete the question about Strong Bad rarely showing emotions? I find it unneccesary (probably because The Cheat, Pom Pom, Homsar, and Bubs rarely show them either.) Bad Bad Guy 17:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

First of all, we've seen The Cheat look happy, sad, annoyed, and furious. We've seen Pom Pom look regular, annoyed, and enraged. Homsar is not meant to show any facial features. And Bubs showed his gloomy look and had a glaring appearance, as well as his look when reading a sign that says "Duck a'lorange(?)". Second of all, maybe we should either rephrase the question: "If Strong Bad can show his happiness, boredom, and worried look, how come he never shows his angry look when he acts angry?" or have someone fix this thought-processed question. I don't know. By the way, we have seen the facial features on Homestar, Marzipan, Strong Mad, and Strong Sad. Not to mention Coach Z's upset face (from Your Funeral and DNA Evidence) and the King of Town's furious look (from TrogdorCon). --Charlie Jr. 17:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The thing is, Strong Bad almost always looks angry. Angry is his neutral. It'd be really hard to tell. --DorianGray 18:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

We have the crazy/enraged look in sibbie with the eye twitches. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 11:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Strong Bad just doesn't have a very expressive face. He looks exactly the same when he's upset (virus) as when he's angry (do over). I think it's because he doesn't have any eyebrows. —Shwoo 01:56, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand the purpose now. Most characters look annoyed or mad when they sound annoyed or mad but Strong Bad does not. Bad Bad Guy 03:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skull Crack

Why does Old-Timey Strong Bad have a crack in his skull, as seen in That A Ghost?

Does anybody have an opinion on whenever this should be on the page or not? --Trogga 18:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there's a story behind it; I think they just did it for a one-time gag. So, to me, it doesn't seem like a big enough question for this page. It would make for an interesting Strong Bad Email Old-Timey Strong Bad Telegram topic, though :) Trey56 18:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I remember there being debate on whenever OTSB's skull crack is a reference to his demise in Parsnips A-Plenty, or MDSB's head crack in Marshmallow's Last Stand. --Trogga 18:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Old-Timey Strong Bad was undamaged in the Easter egg in Parsnips A-Plenty. The damage from the bomb in Marshmallow's Last Stand doesn't match what's seen in That A Ghost in either location or type. It seems far more likely that his skull has a crack in it simply because they drew it that way. (The Homestar Runner's skull has a crack also, by the way, only not as pronounced.) — It's dot com 19:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I see. --Trogga 20:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DNA Evidence

How is it "pretty clear" that the resolution of the DNA evidence running gag was planed? I mean, the toon didn't explain everything. --Trogga 00:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

The toon may not have explained everything, but the question is, did TBC intend to resolve the running gag somehow from the beginning, or did fan influence cause them to make something up after they'd already made several references to the DNA evidence? I don't see how it could be the latter. I don't think they would put random mentions in consecutive toons and only later try to make a toon out of them. By the time we were even sure it was a running gag, TBC would had to have already committed to it. They had to have some kind of plan from the start. (I'm not saying they had the specific conslusion in mind the whole time, but that wasn't the question.) — It's dot com 01:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

That's more of an opinion than a fact. --Trogga 03:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

So? It's a judgment call. In my opinion, it's clear enough that we shouldn't take up space on the page to ask it. If others disagree with me and agree with you, then that's fine; we'll just add it back. But we shouldn't just add questions without holding them to some kind of standard for inclusion. — It's dot com 03:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure. But it's an opinion I happen to agree with. I can't see any reason to conclude otherwise. Mind you, the wiki is not purely fact. Some opinion and vetting of ideas must come into play. And while the ideal wiki article is devoid of any objectivity, that's a nearly impossible goal. Certainly if most of the people feel a certain way then that will be reflected in the content. I heard a news story recently about how "martyr" means something entirely different in the Middle East than it does in the US, so while we never call Palestinian suicide bombers "martyrs" in that region that's all you'd ever call them. Journalistic style varies according to the population. Here, we recognize that certain elements are "open to interpretation", to quote Homsar, and we allow for that with respect to the overall consensus of the editing staff, of which you and I are members. I don't agree with every edit that happens, but I try to be wise enough to see which ones are really over the wall and which are simply where I disagree with consensus. So, I submit that in accepting consensus as a factor in determining content, we must allow opinion to enter into it, while remaining based in fact.

Now, if you meet TBC sometime, you're free to ask whatever questions you wish, This list is intended as a short list (not so long as to make it not worth slaving through, that is) of questions we, as a wiki, wonder about. I don't think we, as a wiki, wonder too greatly whether "DNA evidence" was intended early on to culminate in a climactic toon. It seems pretty obvious to me that by the second appearance that was the plan. You are free to differ, of course, and I respect that. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proper mouth positioning

Would it be wrong to ask The Brothers Chaps why they almost always erroneously position certain characters' mouths in an "oh" or "ooh" shape when the characters say certain words containing an "aw" sound (e.g. job, not, top, song) or an "uh" sound (e.g. done, mission, come, awesome), especially the word "one" (It's ooh-un, not ohn).

Also, there are a few times when a mouth doesn't make an "o" shape when a character says a word beginning with "W". For instance, I do recall that Marzipan's mouth didn't make an "o" shape when she said words with the letter "W" in strong badathlon where she says, "And that's why...tampered with," and in DNA Evidence where she says, "Well, it all started several weeks ago," but I just thought I'd mention that bit. --Charlie Jr. 04:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Mind you, I've been reminded that all of H*R.com is just in two words: A CARTOON. No big deal. I'm cool with that. --Charlie Jr. 18:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

You don't suppose TBC have some sort of system that helps them lip-synch their character's mouths, do you? e.g. It would take a sentence like "some device used on a PC" and see it as "sohm device uhsd own a pee-cee. I just hope they're checking their work before putting it online. --Charlie Jr. 15:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

They do it all manually, unless something has changed since the Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007 public appearance. You can see how they do it during that public appearance starting at about minute 8:30. OptimisticFool 16:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

At least 40% of the time, they sometimes position the mouths to match how words are spelled rather than how the words are pronounced, know what I'm saying? I'm not being a critic about this, I'm just basically learning from what they do. --Charlie Jr. 17:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melissa Palmer

Since the poster for The Great World of Sound reads "Produced by Melissa Palmer" in the credits, is it safe to assume that she kept her madien name? Bad Bad Guy 21:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

That's not necessarily so. Since Missy was known as "Melissa Palmer" professionally before, she might just keep that as her professional name. Legally, she might be Melissa Chapman, or Melissa Palmer-Chapman. Until someone poses the question to her directly, it's unclear (and even then, we might not get a straight answer, for privacy reasons). wbwolf (t | ed) 21:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Right. Just like how Jennifer Aniston kept her professional name but was legally Jennifer Pitt while married to Brad. — It's dot com 22:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who is the Very Very Little Girl?

Could someone revise the explanation as to when we found out what Very, Very Little Girl's true identity is? Right now, it's just like, "Very, Very Little Girl's true identity is that baby that is overheard and mentioned during the road trip commentary." Bad Bad Guy 23:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

That explanation could also create the impression that she is another nience of theirs who they had to watch while doing the commentary. If the commentary actually says nothing about her true identity we should either remove that part of the explanation or move it out of "answered questions." Bad Bad Guy 01:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Answers to the Transcription Questions?

Do the DVDs released this year help at all with these issues:

• disconnected:I like your shoes/I hate your shoes/I think you're shoes/I think you're cute/I think you're stupid/I ate your shoes.
• Strongest Man in the World: Ladies and Gentlemen, you can/can't not be ready for the Strongest Man in the World Contest!
  • And, Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar/Doofus/Dumpface/Loser.
  • All right, youse {incomprehensible} brains. Bad Bad Guy 01:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't have Everything Else Volume 3 yet (would people just document it at least a little by now?!), but I didn't even think to check the disconnected issue. --Jay (Talk) 01:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

My gosh. I hear "I hake your shoes." Uhhhh... commentary? --Jay (Talk) 01:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

After listening on my TV, I must say that the consonant at the beginning of the word is difficult to distinguish. The "K" is surprisingly easy to make out, though, and "your shoes" is unmistakable, so I'm'a side with "like". Which side did I take before? I honestly can't remember at this point. --Jay (Talk) 02:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Huh, I was on the "hate your shoes" side before. Whatever. BTW, the commentary was useless. --Jay (Talk) 02:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] i think i know

i think that 1-up is supposed to be from mario, since they love nintendo so much Imdaman 05:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

1-ups appear in lots of games besides Mario-based ones, and did not (technically) originate there. --DorianGray 05:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Update

I don't think anyone else has been editing this page in a while, but commentaries released on recent Sbemail DVDs may contain answers to some of the questions. BBG 21:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Will TROGDOR! and that other game ever come back to Viidelectrix?

Yes! they already have in SBCG4AP. But they shared with Telltale Games. you can see, because the Videlectrix guys know how to fix the TROGDOR! machine in 8 Bit is Enough. If they left TROGDOR!, how did they know how to fix the machine? They knew because they created the game and they united with Troggy once again in 8 Bit is Enough!

SBCG4AP has nothing to do with Viidelectrix, so nothing of what you said applys here. The question is asking when TROGDOR and duck guardian one will return to this menu. StrongAwesome 19:24, 17 March 2010 (UTC)