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Strong Bad and the Poopsmith's relationship is kind of interesting.  Strong Bad is generally disgusted by the Poopsmith, but he is consistently one of the characters that Strong Bad refuses to bully or harass (for example, big white face and your friends).  Although, Strong Bad does include him in "the lame characters" (jibblies 2) and "everyone I hate" (Secret Identity).  See also the intro of Email thunder.  With these examples and a couple more, enough for a page? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.140|132.183.151.140]] 21:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Strong Bad and the Poopsmith's relationship is kind of interesting.  Strong Bad is generally disgusted by the Poopsmith, but he is consistently one of the characters that Strong Bad refuses to bully or harass (for example, big white face and your friends).  Although, Strong Bad does include him in "the lame characters" (jibblies 2) and "everyone I hate" (Secret Identity).  See also the intro of Email thunder.  With these examples and a couple more, enough for a page? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.140|132.183.151.140]] 21:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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:After looking through all the toons I could think of where they interact, I agree.  Page created.  [[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] [[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 19:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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I feel as though we need a page like this. We already have a category, but like at Pseudocharacters. It has a categhory and a page. I think we should avoid the redirect and stick a normal page. User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 13:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

So do I, but right now we lack a clean way to present the list of pages. We use DeFender1031's page to keep track of what pages do and don't exist, but while the chart may work alright for us editors, I don't think visiting readers would be inclined to explore a page like that. The category page seems to be the cleanest we have. — SamSF%20sig.jpgFisher (Come in, Lambert.) 13:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I see the page. It looks good. Should I use the sandbox example and use it for the page? User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 14:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Wow, I was unaware that my page was actually used by anyone other than me... I'm touched. As for what you said, i disagree, i think the chart actually IS the cleanest method. It's clear and makes sense. Not sure it should be in the mainspace at all though. This is for a "See also" at the bottom of the relationship pages I assume? in which case I suggest a see also linking to the cat. A page such as this would violate once-and-only-once. — Defender1031*Talk 14:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I do like Defender's chart — the only drawback I see to using it in a mainspace article is that the high number of red links might make people think that those pages need to be created (most of them don't, like The Poopsmith and The Poopsmith's Relationship (unless we suddenly see a wave of introspective The Poopsmith toons)). I like Sam's test too, but honestly I think that the category might be the best way of viewing it: you can see it all on one screen. Just my opinion though. Trey56 14:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Hence why I said that it shouldn't be mainspace... although, once the project has been done to its fullest i could go through and comment out the non-existant links, replacing with N/A and we could always uncomment them if there does happen to be a series of introspective poopsmith toons... — Defender1031*Talk 14:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
On a related note, I'm kinda surprised there isn't a Strong Bad's and Marzipan's Relationship article... wbwolf (t | ed) 15:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I have to say the page looks better than what I had in mind.</ego> But still, it'd be great if someone could find a good image for the page and clean it up wherever it needs cleaning (Obviously, the Poopsmith section should be removed, and I think Strong Bad and The KoT should have a relationship page). As for DeFender's idea of linking to the category, we should definitely do that. And as a final suggestion, I think a "Relationships" section should be added to each character's page. I'll get back to the Sandbox for an example. — SamSF%20sig.jpgFisher (Come in, Lambert.) 14:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

We also need to find a way of stopping people from creating Bub's and Strong Bad's relationship 5 times. Perhaps we should have an intro sentence like "The main relationships are listed below." – The Chort 15:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Yea, good idea. Also, there's a discussion regarding the naming of the pages over here. — SamSF%20sig.jpgFisher (Come in, Lambert.) 15:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Strong Bad's Relationship with Marzipan.

Genuine Hatred VS Sadistic In-Denial Crush (like Helga from Hey Arnold).

Dislike: Stealing her raddish in hopes of getting cash, telling her quite frankly in a botched answering machine prank that "This is Strong Bad & you're ugly," saying that he called all of the people he hated the least but that he was legal required to include Marzipan, requesting in several pranks that she flush her head in the toilet or run around in trafic at night dressed all in black, stealing her purse, there's one where he seems peeved that she showed up at his house unexpectedly, his reaction to Marzipan & the Cheat dating can be interprated as him finding Marzipan genuinely gross; how many times has he called her ugly? There was the time he, Strong Mad, & The Cheat egged her house, he's left messages claiming the deaths of Homestar & Pom Pom possibly in the homes of making her cry or at least leave her house, he left a message claiming to be her & said she was stupid & requested that she call herself Uglipan, he's always trying to get money or electronics & even free cable from her, he wanted to make her president of both the Goatfaced Club & Society of Total Dorks, he offered to give her a free million punches in the face, he's swayed others into leaving unsuccessful pranks on her answering machine, he bragged that he got her nothing for her birthday after spoiling the suprise of the Yellow Dello, he claims to have set a fax machine on fire in her front yard, he's suggested that she has a gigantic butt so big it has it's own congressman, & he said he'd like to see her get on the road again & get hit by a bus. Recently, he's called her Marzipole, made fun of her multiple times in a single email, fed her plants bleach & cigarette butts, & tried to drop a Piano on her.

Like: These are the hard ones to find. I remember him asking in a thick phoney accent "do you want'a my bod?" There have also been a couple of references suggesting he's getting private baking lessons with her. He did seem awfully jealous of The Cheat when he went on a secret hot date with Marzipan. Again, a reference to Helga from "Hey, Arnold!" only without the dramatic alone moments of regretting the tormenting. In his dating sim, he makes Marzipan say "Srong Bad is on-point." He left her an email claiming to have a real girlfriend, possibly hoping to make her jealous. There was an email where he tried to get Marzipan to say she liked him.

Perhaps it's a running gag that we're never supposed to know (& those are one of the coolest things about the series). The Dislike is landsliding, so feel free to add to the Like section.


Other Relationships

I know this is for the main character relationships, but shouldn't there be a page for Teen Girl Squad characters? I can think of many relationships for them (Cheerleader and What's her Face; What's Her Face and the Ugly One). And what about Cheat Commandos (Reynold and Gunhaver), or 20X6 (Stinkoman and 1-Up)? I don't know if these things would fit here, should have a new category page, or even deserves to have anything at all. Hooray4Homestar 02:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

It's possible. ThomasAndHomestarFan20 14:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Strong Mad and Homestar?

Forgive me if this has been said before or if this is the wrong place to say it- this is my first time editing the Wiki- but in light of "Play Date", should a page be created considering the SM/HR relationship? Homestar seems to show more frienliness to Strong Mad than any of the other Brothers Strong, which I find interesting.

I don't think there's many notable instances of those two interacting. BBG 20:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Relationship Ideas

Here's my ideas and why...

Homestar Runner and Strong Mad's Relationship (Homestar gives Strong Mad decent respect)

Homestar Runner and Bubs' Relationship (usually get along)

Pom Pom and The King of Town's Relationship (best of friends)

Homsar and Homsar's Relationship (he's usually talking to/with himself)

Marzipan and Pom Pom's Relationship (friends to a lesser degree)

Marzipan and Strong Mad's Relationship (secret aquiantences)

Strong Bad and The Poopsmith's Relationship (Strong Bad often gives respect to the Poopsmith)

Strong Bad and Homsar's Relationship (list of their conflict)

Strong Sad and Coach Z's Relationship (plenty of conversations)

Coach Z and The Cheat's Realationship (they're friends to a lesser degree)

What do you guys think? -ThomasAndHomestarFan20 02:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Meh, I kind of like the idea of Homestar and Bubs, but most of these don't seem important enough for a page because they're one-sided relationships. -PeterImage:Petersig.png
Hmmmm... You got me there. Maybe we should make a page entitled "Minor Character Relationships" -ThomasAndHomestarFan20 23:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Ahhhh, this might be old, but allow me to put it in. I've been tossing around the idea of a page for a relationship with Strong Mad and Marzipan. The relationship is mostly good, with Marzy trying to compliment Strong Mad's stack of VHS tapes in my favorite sbemail, virus, Marzipan letting Strong Mad be in Cool Tapes, and Strong Mad was in Marzipan's classroom in coloring. --Fangoriously 14:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we're doing this wrong...

We seem to always have trouble deciding which relationships warrant a page and which don't. What if we had a page called Minor Character Relationships where we document all of the relationships, and if a section on that page becomes impressive enough, then we move it to its own page. This would alleviate much of the debate as to whether the consistant ones or the multi-faceted ones deserve pages, it would allow for a small documentation of each of the relationships, without gumming up the wiki with too many extra pages. What do you all think? — Defender1031*Talk 03:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I like it. OptimisticFool 03:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Seems like a good idea, but we should still not get too extreme. No sections like "The Announcer and The Grape Faerie's Relationship". Maybe something like in between 2 and 10 points is on that page? --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 03:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking it would be limited only to the relationships of the 12 main characters. THe title is a bit ambiguous (i wouldn't mind a better one) as i mean that the relationships are minor, not the characters in them. — Defender1031*Talk 03:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay. But still, 2-10 points is a good guideline. However, like the three appearances rule, it should be just a general thing. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 03:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Bleh, I've never been too big on the large supply of relationship pages we have here. Some are pretty important though (Like Homestar and Marzipan, or Bubs and Coach Z). That said, I'm neutral to this idea. On the con side, it's another relationship page, and on the pro side, it stops a lot of relatively useless relationship pages from being made. Bluebry 03:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
It might be true that it's another relationship page, but it's better than having every link on Fendem's table blue. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 03:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Also, it should be noted that this idea was mentioned, but not discussed, in the topic above. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 04:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, actually, they all WOULD be blue, as each would probably redirect to its proper section... and about the idea above, yeah, i saw it, but i figured that my idea is a bit different (though using the same name as of now) and warranted a new section. — Defender1031*Talk 04:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't like the idea. If two characters don't interact in any interesting way, than it should not be documented, not even as part of a big list. We don't have to blindly document everything. Loafing 04:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree with that. I don't think all of these links have to be blue. By my count, that would mean 45 subheadings.. 46 counting Pom Pom and The Poopsmith's Relationship if it comes to that. That'd be overkill. But there are cases to be made for several of them, and that' my vision for the proposed article. OptimisticFool 06:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Or Just Like Minor Character Relationships Involving Homestar Runner, Minor Character Relationships Involving Strong Bad and so on, and for Characters with not much Interaction one big page, It's gonna be long.--Meaty85203 23:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...

Hasn't anyone noticed Marzipans friendship with Homsar. We shuld mention that too. 85.228.148.67 14:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Not now... but good potential... later on. I'm Jellote, and I approved this message.--Jellote 01:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

email thunder

Is it worth noting on their respective relationships pages that people who Strong Bad considers lame attended the 200th email? You know, like, he let them in his house?! There's Coach Z, Marzipan, Strong Sad, and the KOT. You know, like, he let them in his house? Strongkinghomsarsmith06:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes.--Jellote 01:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Strong Bad is normally friends with Bubs, and he attended the 200th email! Bubs, not Strong Bad. --Fangoriously 14:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Coach Sad?

I have definately seen many aspects of Strong Sad and Coach Z. While the Coach usually disturbs the Sad, they get along/work together often. They talk and Strong Sad is distubed. The two were Dangeresque stars. Strong sad wants to pour coffee on the coach. Anyone else agree?--Jellote 01:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I do, Me, Me, Me, Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! Coach Z and Strong Sad's Relationship should be an article Meaty85203 05:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Strong Bad and the Poopsmith

Strong Bad and the Poopsmith's relationship is kind of interesting. Strong Bad is generally disgusted by the Poopsmith, but he is consistently one of the characters that Strong Bad refuses to bully or harass (for example, big white face and your friends). Although, Strong Bad does include him in "the lame characters" (jibblies 2) and "everyone I hate" (Secret Identity). See also the intro of Email thunder. With these examples and a couple more, enough for a page? -132.183.151.140 21:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

After looking through all the toons I could think of where they interact, I agree. Page created. Ingiald Ingiald 19:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
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