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== Domains ==
== Domains ==
Did anyone else notice that Don Chapman owns freecountryusa.com and strongbadia.com? Let us know if you find any others. --<span style="font-variant: small-caps;">'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'')</span> 05:54, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Did anyone else notice that Don Chapman owns freecountryusa.com and strongbadia.com? Let us know if you find any others. --<span style="font-variant: small-caps;">'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'')</span> 05:54, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)
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You'll have to update it sometime this year, Missy's expecting. But thanks, that's pretty cool.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
You'll have to update it sometime this year, Missy's expecting. But thanks, that's pretty cool.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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== Strong Dad's Death ==
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hey, is there anyway that we can honor Don Chapman after his recent passing?
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--{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 05:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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:Look at the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes Page]] {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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::We are all understandably shocked and saddened by this news, and we have heartfelt sympathy for TBC and the rest of their family, but it is not our place to do anything more than we have already done. Our contact with Mr. Chapman was indirect, and the family does not need to be pestered by overeager fans, no matter how honorable their intentions. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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:::True, but on the other hand, I think it's important for Mike and Matt to know that their fans appreciate them as people.  To know that so many people they've never met care enough to say something is a beautiful thing.  Look at it this way: while h*r is their job, they don't force people who come to the site to buy anything.  So they're spending their times entertaining us, potentially for free.  The least we can do is show them that we appreciate them. Of course, flooding them with non-heartfelt emails is wrong, but if you really care and you really want to do something, at least sign the guestbook on the obituary page linked to on this page. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 01:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
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::::Joey Day, who has had personal interaction with TBC, has already signed the guestbook on behalf of the wiki. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
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I'm very dissapointed to see this. :-(  He was also about to be a grandfather.
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How did he die? [[User:24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]
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:He already was a grandfather. And it was a battle with brain cancer, God rest his soul. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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::I am saddened by the news of the passing of Don Chapman. I will keep his family in my prayers. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Picture ==
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Shouldn't we have a picture of Harriet Chapman? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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:We should, but we can't find one. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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::Yes we can. But we won't use it out of respect for privacy. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Catholic/Methodist/Values. ==
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This is a rather irritating, unnessisary, & personal bit of information. {{unsigned|67.160.77.255|06:12, 12 December 2008}}
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:It's probably a paraphrase from an interview, or similar. Feel free to not read the page. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 06:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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::As an atheist, I also don't like that sentence. But it is basically an introduction to the quote. And the quote is definitely relevant to our interests.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::I feel about the same way about it. I was going to say that even though we don't have a NPOV policy, it still seems out of place in the wiki -- it's a bold statement to make, and has no bearing on our usual target (Homestar Runner). And then it turns out that we do have [[HRWiki:Standards#Maintain a Neutral Point of View (NPOV)|that policy]]. I think a change of tone could take the edge off of it, but still provide a good transition into the quote. I'm rolling a few things around in my head, and if any of them taste alright, I'll throw it down on the page. How'd this get to be this week's featured article anyways? It's kind of short, and has this line... And yet, it's been there since December 2004. I know I've read this article before, and I have trouble believing that it's been that long... -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab &amp; Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 10:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::Who said mentioning their beliefs took away the neutrality in the article? --[[Special:Contributions/70.253.165.204|70.253.165.204]] 12:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::It doesn't, which is why I left that in. It was the direct statement that they had "instilled good values in their children.", which is a bit of a subjective claim and should be stated as such. It's not the wiki's position to be making claims about good values. Just the facts, and just the facts about Homestar Runner. Also, the structure of the sentence implied that their religion was directly related to their good values. Essentially, it sounded like the wiki was endorsing Catholicism and Methodism. Also not a neutral position. So in my edit, I rewrote the subjective claims so that they sounded like subjective claims and not statements of fact, and tried to dilute the strength of the inference by adding more material from the interview. I haven't removed anything, just clarified and changed the tone. On another note, mentioning their religions isn't a neutrality issue, but it may be a violation of privacy. I know that stuff has been removed from the wiki before because people felt that it was inappropriate to delve so much into the lives of people only tangentially related to Homestar Runner, or even stuff about TBC themselves. There are different schools of thought on the relationship between an artist and their work, and whether analyzing one gives insight into the other. My perception is that it's the de facto official position of the wiki to analyze the work, and not the creators, though I can't find an official statement of such policy. Anyway, I left in the mention of their religions because I think the article has already been looked over by those concerned about the privacy of the individuals, and they have made no contention against such mention. -- [[User:Laser-Grilled Crab &amp; Cheese Sandwich|LGC&amp;CS]] 21:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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::::::Well done, I like the new version.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::Don Chapman would have been proud of your contribution, LGC&CS. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Obituary ==
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The link for the obituary dosen't work... poor Chaps... {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
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:Well it magically works now. Amazing. {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 00:26, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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::Not magic. It was updated. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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== Julie Chapman  ==
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Every other relative of the Brothers Chaps has his or her own page,
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including some of their other siblings and their aunt and uncle so why does Julie Chapman not have her own article? --[[User:Happypasta|Happypasta]] 05:31, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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:In two DVD commentaries (see [[do over]] and [[slumber party]]) they mention her name.  Her face has never been seen, her voice never heard.  Basically, the preceding two sentences would be the whole of the [[Julie Chapman]] article.. I would love for there to be an article about her, but at present it would be lacking.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:24, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Wrong Picture ==
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I believe the record store day picture to be a picture of [[Donnie Chapman]], who goes by Don now.
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Here is Harriet's [https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17098555_10208017812312413_5385964714167443142_n.jpg?oh=7c22811c72d9a893788de5eed80346b2&oe=59CE870C mother's day picture], with Donnie on the left.

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Ding! Don and Harriet Chapman is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.

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Did anyone else notice that Don Chapman owns freecountryusa.com and strongbadia.com? Let us know if you find any others. --Steve (talk) 05:54, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)

He is also the owner of homestarsrunner.com (WHOIS), via the WIPO Arbitration decision. -- Tom 06:05, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Also harmlessjunk.com. --Steve (talk) 20:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I've made a picture of the Chapman Family Tree. Does anybody mind if I put it up on this page? -AtionSong 22:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

You'll have to update it sometime this year, Missy's expecting. But thanks, that's pretty cool.--Jnelson09 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


Strong Dad's Death

hey, is there anyway that we can honor Don Chapman after his recent passing? ---COLA 05:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Look at the Recent Changes Page --Dacheatbot · Communicate 05:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
We are all understandably shocked and saddened by this news, and we have heartfelt sympathy for TBC and the rest of their family, but it is not our place to do anything more than we have already done. Our contact with Mr. Chapman was indirect, and the family does not need to be pestered by overeager fans, no matter how honorable their intentions. — It's dot com 05:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
True, but on the other hand, I think it's important for Mike and Matt to know that their fans appreciate them as people. To know that so many people they've never met care enough to say something is a beautiful thing. Look at it this way: while h*r is their job, they don't force people who come to the site to buy anything. So they're spending their times entertaining us, potentially for free. The least we can do is show them that we appreciate them. Of course, flooding them with non-heartfelt emails is wrong, but if you really care and you really want to do something, at least sign the guestbook on the obituary page linked to on this page. -Unknownwarrior33 01:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Joey Day, who has had personal interaction with TBC, has already signed the guestbook on behalf of the wiki. — It's dot com 01:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm very dissapointed to see this. :-( He was also about to be a grandfather. How did he die? 24.151.40.232

He already was a grandfather. And it was a battle with brain cancer, God rest his soul. —BazookaJoe 02:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I am saddened by the news of the passing of Don Chapman. I will keep his family in my prayers. --Stux 21:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Shouldn't we have a picture of Harriet Chapman? --Dacheatbot · Communicate 01:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

We should, but we can't find one. Has Matt? (talk) 01:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes we can. But we won't use it out of respect for privacy. —BazookaJoe 02:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Catholic/Methodist/Values.

This is a rather irritating, unnessisary, & personal bit of information. — 67.160.77.255 (Talk | contribs) 06:12, 12 December 2008 (left unsigned)

It's probably a paraphrase from an interview, or similar. Feel free to not read the page. --Belthazar 06:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
As an atheist, I also don't like that sentence. But it is basically an introduction to the quote. And the quote is definitely relevant to our interests. Loafing 11:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I feel about the same way about it. I was going to say that even though we don't have a NPOV policy, it still seems out of place in the wiki -- it's a bold statement to make, and has no bearing on our usual target (Homestar Runner). And then it turns out that we do have that policy. I think a change of tone could take the edge off of it, but still provide a good transition into the quote. I'm rolling a few things around in my head, and if any of them taste alright, I'll throw it down on the page. How'd this get to be this week's featured article anyways? It's kind of short, and has this line... And yet, it's been there since December 2004. I know I've read this article before, and I have trouble believing that it's been that long... -- LGC&CS 10:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Who said mentioning their beliefs took away the neutrality in the article? --70.253.165.204 12:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't, which is why I left that in. It was the direct statement that they had "instilled good values in their children.", which is a bit of a subjective claim and should be stated as such. It's not the wiki's position to be making claims about good values. Just the facts, and just the facts about Homestar Runner. Also, the structure of the sentence implied that their religion was directly related to their good values. Essentially, it sounded like the wiki was endorsing Catholicism and Methodism. Also not a neutral position. So in my edit, I rewrote the subjective claims so that they sounded like subjective claims and not statements of fact, and tried to dilute the strength of the inference by adding more material from the interview. I haven't removed anything, just clarified and changed the tone. On another note, mentioning their religions isn't a neutrality issue, but it may be a violation of privacy. I know that stuff has been removed from the wiki before because people felt that it was inappropriate to delve so much into the lives of people only tangentially related to Homestar Runner, or even stuff about TBC themselves. There are different schools of thought on the relationship between an artist and their work, and whether analyzing one gives insight into the other. My perception is that it's the de facto official position of the wiki to analyze the work, and not the creators, though I can't find an official statement of such policy. Anyway, I left in the mention of their religions because I think the article has already been looked over by those concerned about the privacy of the individuals, and they have made no contention against such mention. -- LGC&CS 21:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Well done, I like the new version. Loafing 22:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Don Chapman would have been proud of your contribution, LGC&CS. – The Chort 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Obituary

The link for the obituary dosen't work... poor Chaps... Espemon333 00:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Well it magically works now. Amazing. Espemon333 00:26, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Not magic. It was updated. — Defender1031*Talk 00:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Julie Chapman

Every other relative of the Brothers Chaps has his or her own page, including some of their other siblings and their aunt and uncle so why does Julie Chapman not have her own article? --Happypasta 05:31, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

In two DVD commentaries (see do over and slumber party) they mention her name. Her face has never been seen, her voice never heard. Basically, the preceding two sentences would be the whole of the Julie Chapman article.. I would love for there to be an article about her, but at present it would be lacking. OptimisticFool 06:24, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Wrong Picture

I believe the record store day picture to be a picture of Donnie Chapman, who goes by Don now. Here is Harriet's mother's day picture, with Donnie on the left.

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