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==It all comes down so I break it down==
==It all comes down so I break it down==

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Easter Eggs

I call the Easter Eggs. You're allowed to do that, right? - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

I'll race you for 'em. And I can protect the page.  :) Thunderbird 01:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd rather not, but it doesn't seem like it's going to load, anyway. First one to fall asleep loses the eggs! - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

Not Loading

It isnt loading for me. :( SBadiaRula

Same here. The flash file is giving me a 404. —Zelinda 01:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
It's not loading for anyone, yet. Thunderbird 01:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
How'd you get the run time? AtionSong 01:32, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
It's listed on the Toons page. —Zelinda 01:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Jeez, three edit conflicts just to edit this page. But anyway, me neither. Dang.— talk Bubsty edits 01:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
THERE ISN'T A FLASH FILE! User:Seek Bar
it's not loading because there isn't a flash file. The page is looking for the file that doesn't exist. That's why there's a hold up.AtionSong 01:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, I think we've reached the limit of making a page there's no flash file for. Still, we got pretty far. :) Thunderbird 01:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
How do we know that Z and Marzy are hosting it? That Pom Pom's on the "telebision"? - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
On the toons menu.AtionSong 01:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
And the only reason I refered to her as "Marzy" is because that's what they refered to her as in the summary. Thunderbird 01:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
All the same, her correct name is "Marzipan." — talk Bubsty edits 01:43, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

And now we wait. Ah, "refresh", how we love thee.AtionSong 01:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

What day is American Thanksgiving anyways? It's a month past for us Canadians. Thunderbird 01:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Always the 3rd Thursday in November. AtionSong 01:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh. Then this one's... Retroactive? Thunderbird 01:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
TBC could be going outta town. -AtionSong 01:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
ITS WORKING — talk Bubsty edits 01:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Not for me. -AtionSong 01:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Umm, no, actually, it's the fourth Thursday in November; i.e., in three days. Heimstern Läufer 01:48, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Where's the transcript coming from? The flash file's still not up for me! AtionSong 01:55, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Btw Kookyman, I beat you.  :) Thunderbird 01:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
How'd you get it to load?????AtionSong 01:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

This should clear things up... the regular is 'floatparade' and the swf is 'fallparade'. Probably lotsaya know this by now, but it does need to be officially announced. -FaceCrap 02:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

what the?

this toon isn't working for me! and i'm really eager to see it! it just comes up as white stu~ff!Jibney

FYI for those who are not in the know, the toon can be access from the following Flash file. Enjoy! --Stux 02:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Visit the flash file. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

thanks that was hilarious!Jibney 02:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

'Nother Page

For all the Halloween cartoons, we make an extra page to show all the costumes in a gallery with discriptions. I think we should do that for the floats in the parade, sort of like a list for reference. -AtionSong 02:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that'll be needed, unless these floats become a reoccuring theme. (Which I doubt.) - Joshua 03:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
EDIT CONFLICT Second. We list the Halloween costumes coz they have further information, based on other characters and all that. Whatever there is to say about the floats, I think we can put in the transcript. --DorianGray

Tinfoil or Pennzoil?

I really don't think the Homsars are saying 'Sing a song of tinfoil'- to me, it sounds much more like 'Pennzoil'. Anyone else hear that?

I had no idea what they were saying at first, with the overlap effect. But under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen ears, and the transcript updating, I was able to pick out 'tinfoil'. --DorianGray
Yeah, I heard Penzoil. There's definetly a "zoil" sound at the end of their line. -JesseLangham
Yup, it's penzoil. Ima gonna change it now. -SBadiaRula
I always heard penzoil.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 13:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
It's definitely tinfoil. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

I've listened to it five times at increasing volume. It's penzoil! SBadiaRula

SupremeRulerOfSBadia, please do not change it until an agreement is made. —FireBird|Talk 17:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

'm srry. I just know what I heard, and I can't help changeing it. SBadiaRula

What the crap is Pennzoil? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 17:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Pennzoil is an American motor-oil company that sponsors races, sporting events and other stuff. They're right up there with Castrol and Quaker State. (I had listed this in RWR before someone reverted the transcript back to "Tinfoil".) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, and they are a major sponsor for Macy's T-Day Parades, too. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
It's an oil for your engine. Apparently it's not in Isreal.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 17:40, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Take a listen for yourself.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 20:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Listening to it again, it is definitely a bit indistinct because of the doubling, but I think the telltale sign that it's "Pennzoil" is that the first syllable in the word is a short "e", not a short "i". So you'd either have "ten-foil", "ten-zoil", "ten-soil", "pen-soil", or "pen-zoil" (and the last one properly translates to the Pennzoil brand name, as there is no English word "penzoil", and Homsar doesn't have a history of making up words). — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:27, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

How odd... I was about to say the same thing, but backwards. Because I surely hear a short "i" sound. --DorianGray
Try these media clips: Homsar's quote (normal) and (150% normal speed) - the latter clip might make that last word a bit clearer. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
After a review of these clips, particularly the second, I have reevaluated my position. It is Pennzoil, as reluctant as I am to admit. Also, I'd like to say that Homsar is rather creepy all sped up like that. --DorianGray
Hey guys, the KOT quote had a clip made so that it could be played over and over again (I think that one's thanks to KieferSkunk), is there any way we could have such a clip for the Homesar Line uploaded? That would help so much! I was almost convinced it was Penzoil but I keep hearing something different each time it seems, so I want to hear it with a good set of earphones and several times in a row to be sure. --Stux 21:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm one step ahead of you, Stux. Look up. :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh! I didn't even see them! I'm sorry! Thanks! --Stux 21:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Wow, man! That 150% speed recording's a riot! I definitely do not hear an "f" sound to make tinfoil. --Stux 21:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Edit Conflict I think playing this on repeat 20 or 30 times gives you a pretty good idea of what it is and what it is not. I hear no "f", I hear a "p", and I hear an "e"; I hear no I, and we all agree on the oil part. :) I could've also just simply signed my vote and not typed any of this but it wouldn't be as fun now would it? --Stux 21:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I can hear "Pennzoil" under the power of suggestion, but I can't hear "tinfoil" at all. — It's dot com 23:45, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Here, I'll start a vote:

If you hear "tinfoil", add your name to this bullet list.

If you hear "Pennzoil", add your name here instead.

It all comes down so I break it down

The KOT quite discernibly says some syllable before "Break it down for me, fellas," but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Anybody? —AbdiViklas 05:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

"So"? -- Tom 05:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
It refers to the song, a break-down is a variation or style of the music that they are playing. A common break-down is all the instruments dropping out except percussion. I R F 12:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I think AbdiViklas is asking for help identifying the syllable he hears before the phrase, not what the word "it" in the phrase stands for. -- Tom 18:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
That is correct. (And you're correct too, IRF; we owe modern turntabling to that section of the song and Grandmaster Flash's attempts to extend it.) I'm not convinced by "So," Tom; it kinda sounds like "court" to me, which makes no sense. —AbdiViklas 19:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I thought it sounded a lot like "A-break it down for me, fellas!" It's a possibility. - The good...X On Fire (SSX)...And the good again. 19:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Court could work. Like a king's court. "A sovereign's governing body, including the council of ministers and state advisers." [1] -- Tom 19:50, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Yup. Excet "Break it down for me, fellas," is not in the Top 10 Things Most Likely To Be Heard In A Council Of Ministers And State Advisors (T1TMLTBHIACOMASA). —AbdiViklas 20:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Here, I uploaded a sound clip of the KOT's line. That should help in figuring it out. Sounds like "court" or "pork" to me, but it also sounds like it could just be gibberish. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Could be "What?" or "Oh" or "Go"... The possibilities are pretty much endless. It could be any number of things. Even listening to the .ogg, I can't tell. It's rather indistinct. --DorianGray
About all I can get from it listening to it some more (even slowed it down to see if that would help) is that it sounds like it starts with "Tr". Nothing I can think of fits, though - I think it's just a random syllable at this point. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
No idea here, but I don't hear a long "O" sound ("So," "Go," "Oh," or whatever.) --Jay (Talk) 21:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
It could simply be a vocalization, a sort of a "hup!" I think given the lack of consensus it's okay to leave it as it is. —AbdiViklas 21:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I just watched the toon again, and it souned pretty clear. I'm almost positive it's "A-break..." - The good...X On Fire (SSX)...And the good again.

I hear, "A-break it down for me, fairlords," but my headphones stuck. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
Pretty sure that's "fellas". Having it be "A-break" is about the only thing I can think of that makes sense. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Jump Jive and Wail

Did anybody else think of the movie Airplane! when Marzi said, "for those of you don't speak Coach Z" refering to the lady that said, "Stewardess, I speak jive." Is this even close to being solid enough for real world reference status? I R F 13:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

No, I just thought about speaking "The Cheat" No Parking 15:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Post-its?

Are post-its a running gag, now? No Parking 14:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

see Sticky_Notes I R F 15:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Killer Ballon

Could the run-away Marshie ballon be a referance to the 1998 Thanksgiving Parade when that Cat-in-the-Hat ballon knock over a street light at killed those people? Or is that too much of a stretch? The Pardack

You know, I didn't even think of that, which is surprising because I lived in NY and was watching at that time, but I'd say so, especially since the cause was not enough people controlling the balloon. I R F 18:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

No one died, but someone was put in a coma for a while. But anyway, I think it could be a reference. - Joshua 18:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I dunno, it strikes me as just a common parade balloon gag, not necessarily a reference to a particular incedent. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 18:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I think The Pardack is right - I looked up news articles for that incident (which actually occurred in 1997), and the similarities between that and the Marshie balloon are pretty striking. (pun possibly intended.) I went ahead and added the fact - if you feel it should be STUFF'd, feel free. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it refers to anything in particular. I thought more of the Friends episode where Underdog gets away. I went ahead and deleted the fact. If you feel it should be STUFF'd, feel free. — It's dot com 19:25, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
You know, TBC have brains, and brains makes connections between related ideas and memories. So unless they have been living under a rock since their birth, something in particular popped up in their minds when they had the idea for this gag. If anything, the main reference here is the Zeppelin Hindenburg disaster.--Vl-tone 07:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Or for that matter, what about "The Mom and Pop Store" epsiode of Seinfeld, When the Woody Woodpecker balloon gets blown? The simple fact is that it could be one particlar reference, but because there are so many candidates, it should be left at a reference to the general theme of a big balloon being a recipie for disaster. Thunderbird 21:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Wagon Fulla Pancakes?

Should the Wagon Fulla Pancakes be mentioned here? I mean, isn't it the Wagon under SB's float?--DumDe 19:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

It is mentioned. Check the inside references. — It's dot com

Sorry. I wasn't clear enough. I meant in the cast list.--DumDe 19:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

It is listed suchly, by the way, in Senorial Day (though personally I don't think should be either there or here. montage, yes, because it's personified so heavily, but not the other two. —AbdiViklas 20:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
If we list something once, we list it everywhere. Or nowhere. The key is consistancy. - Joshua 21:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
You don't see a case for different treatment when an inanimate object is personified into a character (as in Characters#PseudoCharacters)? In montage, the Wagon is, functionally, a character. Here it's functionally a wagon. (Hey, I just thought of something; an argument could be made against listing "Wagon Fulla Pancakes" in the Cast here, since it isn't full of pancakes!) I'd argue it should be in the cast list for montage but no others to date. (Of course if my argument is accepted it would entail other changes; e.g. Frank Benedetto should be taken out of the Cast list for garage sale and Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon, since it's just a popcorn popper in those.) —AbdiViklas 21:55, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

About the lack of basement

Remarks notes that Bubs' Concession Stand doesn't appear to have a basement in the Homestar Egg. However, we already know that the basement is accessed by a lowering mechanism in the middle of the stand. This would put said mechamism about where Homestar's box is. I'm thinking it's possible (POSSIBLE) that Homestar's box is covering the basement elevator. What do you all think? Rocketlex 02:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I think you need to lay off the caffine. that is so absurd!-- Benol, aka Coach B 02:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I think that's included in the Remark? And I think Benol could avoid sounding insulting. (Although, yes, the whole basement issue is absurd; not just because it's unlikely to be a priority of TBC, but because if it is it raises certain absurdist images, such as Bubs fitting through a hole that size.) —AbdiViklas 02:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Bub's elevator is not in the smack center of his stand, it's in the front-center part which is not covered by the cardboard box.--Stux 02:24, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
There is no basement in the stand, thus no elevator. In geddup noise, Bubs was doing the old "pretend I'm in an elevator" trick that mimes do.--Vl-tone 06:36, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
What about when he walked out of the basement in Strong Bad Email? - Joshua 14:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I know. It's just a wierd situation, his basement. I'll wing a mail to TBC and see what they say. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

Blue Face?

This may just be going over my head right now, but I don't understand the reference on Homestar's box during the easter egg. -- The Real Zajac 01:23, 23 Nov 2005 (PST)

Maybe this will help. — It's dot com 09:26, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh. Well I said that I was probably missing the obvious. -- The Real Zajac 02:21, 23 Nov 2005 (PST)
It actually took me a few minutes to work it out too... I thought at first it was just Homestar's usual inanity. Then, after about the third viewing, I go "Hey, Bubs is of the blue-headed persuasion, isn't he?" --DorianGray
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