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:::::I heard {The Cheat noises}.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I heard {The Cheat noises}.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: I heard "my eyes! my eyes!", which also makes sense because The Cheat covers his eyes. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 21:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::: I heard "my eyes! my eyes!", which also makes sense because The Cheat covers his eyes. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 21:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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::::::: I heard "Redrum!" as well. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 03:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== Monchhicheat? ==
== Monchhicheat? ==
I thought SB calls the Cheat "Monchhicheat", a pun on "Monchhichis" and a reference to the fact the The Cheat is hairier than usual (due to his Gizmo costume). [[User:Starblind|Starblind]] 20:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I thought SB calls the Cheat "Monchhicheat", a pun on "Monchhichis" and a reference to the fact the The Cheat is hairier than usual (due to his Gizmo costume). [[User:Starblind|Starblind]] 20:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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*On that note, has anyone else noticed that the romanization should technically be "Moncchichi"? It's kind of weird how that's slipped by since the 80s without someone noticing. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Jam On It? ==
== Jam On It? ==
Does The Skull really say "Ajambonee"? I thought it said "Jam on it". EDIT: if you listen closely, you can hear a "t" sound at the end of his sentence. I think that confirms it. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:24, 30 October 2006
Does The Skull really say "Ajambonee"? I thought it said "Jam on it". EDIT: if you listen closely, you can hear a "t" sound at the end of his sentence. I think that confirms it. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:24, 30 October 2006
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I thought it said  a jam on it, a play on a curse on it.-Some Anon
I thought it said  a jam on it, a play on a curse on it.-Some Anon
:I concur. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:I concur. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
"Jam On It" was an old-school rap (from the mid-80's) by the band Newcleus. It was both the title and tagline...sounds to me like what the skull was saying. (You might have to ask Coach Z)
"Jam On It" was an old-school rap (from the mid-80's) by the band Newcleus. It was both the title and tagline...sounds to me like what the skull was saying. (You might have to ask Coach Z)
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My bad, should have checked the discussion before editing it-- but it's a weird line, cause he also distinctly pronounces an "m." [[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 3:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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I'm sorry, but I just don't hear "Jam on it."  I hear a distinct B a the end of "jam."  I do, however, also hear a T at the end of the line, so this one baffles me. Maybe it's saying "A-jam bone it", because it does sound like a long O sound -- doesn't really make much sense, but at the same time, it kinda does since it's a skull (a skull is made of bone). That would make it a play on the song title "Jam On It", so it would still kinda fit. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 3:35 AM, October 14, 2007 (EST)
 
== "We need hamen?" ==
== "We need hamen?" ==
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--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 21:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 21:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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:Nah, everything on Halloween is orange and black. The "orange and black flavored" marshmellows are probably not a reference to anything in particular. Whether these candies are a reference to other candies or to the marshmellows is another matter.[[User:Geshmalderborgen|גשמלדרברגן]] 03:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== Opening Glitch? ==
== Opening Glitch? ==
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== Homsar... ==
== Homsar... ==
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Isn't wearing his trademark bowler hat! Doesn't anybody else find that unusual? Even in the earlier Halloween toons, he has it, or a variation on it, anyway. (At least, I know he did as "Slash" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], and am pretty sure he did in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].) [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 02:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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Isn't wearing his trademark bowler hat! Doesn't anybody else find that unusual? Even in the earlier Halloween toons, he has it, or a variation on it, anyway. (At least, I know he did as "Slash" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], and am pretty sure he did in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]].) [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 02:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:He didn't have a hat of any kind in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], either. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 02:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:He didn't have a hat of any kind in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], either. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 02:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::I know, I checked the costume lists (there's also no hat in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]), but still, it's a rare sight to see Homsar without his hat. It's like seeing a happy Strong Sad. (Which, coincidentally enough, also happened in this 'toon.) [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 02:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::I know, I checked the costume lists (there's also no hat in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]), but still, it's a rare sight to see Homsar without his hat. It's like seeing a happy Strong Sad. (Which, coincidentally enough, also happened in this 'toon.) [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 02:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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== Closed STUFF ==
== Closed STUFF ==
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=== Bingo Was His Name O ===
 
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{{stufffact|The skull in the Spooky Woods with a rainbow afro may also be an [[Wikipedia:Adult_swim|Adult Swim]] reference to the evil clown head in the animated series, [[Wikipedia:Aqua Teen Hunger Force|''Aqua Teen Hunger Force'']].}}
 
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:::Umm.  Considering "hell" a swearword is a bit subjective, don't you think, especially when you consider that it's a real word that has another meaning?  My cousins and a lot of other people consider "crap" a swear; does that make the Wiki, with all its transcriptions of Strong Bad and the gang, not family-friendly?  I don't think so.  The H word is really in the same boat as "crap" from what I can see. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 20:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Umm.  Considering "hell" a swearword is a bit subjective, don't you think, especially when you consider that it's a real word that has another meaning?  My cousins and a lot of other people consider "crap" a swear; does that make the Wiki, with all its transcriptions of Strong Bad and the gang, not family-friendly?  I don't think so.  The H word is really in the same boat as "crap" from what I can see. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 20:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Incidentally, [[Hell|Hell]].
::::Incidentally, [[Hell|Hell]].
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Yes, but it is never used in that context. You never hear Homestar say "What the h***?!" do you?[[User:Pointy King|Pointy King]] 02:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC) (Yes, I know it's 2 years old.)
 
:I could go either way on the talk/tonk. Tonk ''does'' make sense by Strong Bad's standards, like it's a derivative of bull-honk(y), but of course it's subjective and that's where the problem arises. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:I could go either way on the talk/tonk. Tonk ''does'' make sense by Strong Bad's standards, like it's a derivative of bull-honk(y), but of course it's subjective and that's where the problem arises. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
::Hard as I try, I just can't hear an "N" sound.  So "tonk" is out in my book. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 20:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
::Hard as I try, I just can't hear an "N" sound.  So "tonk" is out in my book. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 20:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I hear "bull-tonk". I'm also a bit puzzled as to why "bull talk" makes any more sense than "bull-tonk" in the context, which has nothing to do with any sort of talk (and given that bulls don't talk, I find the term just as nonsensical as "bull-tonk" even out of context. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I hear "bull-tonk". I'm also a bit puzzled as to why "bull talk" makes any more sense than "bull-tonk" in the context, which has nothing to do with any sort of talk (and given that bulls don't talk, I find the term just as nonsensical as "bull-tonk" even out of context. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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::::"Tonk" is nonsense.  "Talk" makes a lot of sense in my eyes because... well, think about it.  "Bull-talk" could be taken as a combination of "crazy talk" and "bull****".  Sure, you could say bull-tonk refers to bull-honky, but that seems too much of a stretch. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 20:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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:::::I agree with all those points. "Talk" seems much more likely than "tonk" to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
 
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Might I suggest something else as a possibility?  It does sound clearly like a ONK pronunciations, but not TONK.  It sounds more like he's saying BULL-DONK, which also would fit in with past H*R 'swears'.  The precedent is Bub's use of Crab-A-Donk.  Which would make it a portmanteau of Crab-a-Donk and Bull-Honkey. --[[User:66.184.137.30|66.184.137.30]] 05:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== QotW Song ==
== QotW Song ==
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:Reminds me strongly of ''[[Wikipedia:Roxanne (song)|Roxanne]]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
:Reminds me strongly of ''[[Wikipedia:Roxanne (song)|Roxanne]]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
::I agree; however, I think that is more directly a reference to reggae songs in general (esp. Bob Marley, [[Talk:Quote of the Week#Reggae Song|see more discussion here]]), and the similarity to ''Roxanne'' is just a result of The Police using reggae influences in that particular song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
::I agree; however, I think that is more directly a reference to reggae songs in general (esp. Bob Marley, [[Talk:Quote of the Week#Reggae Song|see more discussion here]]), and the similarity to ''Roxanne'' is just a result of The Police using reggae influences in that particular song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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:::Incidentally, in a Fresh Air interview with Terry Gross, Sting insisted that Roxanne was not reggae, but was in fact a tango. (Can't find a link to that interview, will share if I can.) Simply put, and Sting reference, or ANY musical reference at all, is patently TTATOT. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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==Are we explaining the costumes?==
 
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Are we explaining the costumes at all in Real World References?  This year had some fairly oblique costumes that people may not recognize such as The Maxx (yes!) and The King's costume.
 
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:Nevermind, just saw the link, my bad
 
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I pulled this out of Real World Ref.s to talk over a little: ''Homestar's jersey says Beavers on it, a well known Oregon sports team. Ironicly enough, the colors are of their major opponent, the Ducks''. True, the [[Wikipedia:Oregon State Beavers football|Beavers]] are a team, and the [[Wikipedia:Oregon Ducks|Ducks]] are yellow & green—but those are football teams, not basketball. Could someone who's seen ''Teen Wolf'' help out: does it have anything to do with Oregon? Is the jersey that color scheme in the movie? If so, it's possible the movie was referencing them, but that's no business of ours. On the other hand, if TBC changed the color scheme, it might be worth mentioning. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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::Homestar's jersey is the same as the one in the movie: [http://emmanuel.denis.free.fr/images/teenwolf.JPG]; so as you said, it may be true that the movie was referencing them, but it's no buisness of ours. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Latfiah Hat ==
 
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If you closely watch the hat Coach Z is wearing, as he faces the opposite direction, the bean-looking designs along the bottom of the hat face opposite directions.  I don't know if that's worth any mention, either as a remark or whatever, but I wouldn't edit the main article anyway.  Just thought I'd mention it to whomever cares.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 02:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Sunrise, you better take care... ==
 
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I'm a bit confused by the sunrise comment. First, the sun rises at a variety of times depending where in the time zone you are - there is not a sudden "sunrise" for a full 1/24th of the world one moment. So, if we say the sun rises at 6 on a particular day, a few hundred miles to the west it might rise closer to 6:10, and a few hundred miles to the east, 5:50. (Of course, if this travel took us across a time zone boundary, you'd have to adjust that an hour.)
 
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Bearing that in mind, what is the '''range''' of times sunrise occurred on Nov 1 2006? Without knowing that, we cannot even note this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 
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: Sunrise is at (actually a little before) 6:00 AM (in standard time, not daylight saving time) on the first day of Spring and the first day of Fall. During the Fall, it gets progressively later until the first day of Winter (when it's at its latest), at which point it becomes earlier and earlier again until Spring. This is true regardless of where in the entire world you live (except at the equator, where sunrise is constant IIRC). In the northern hemisphere, October 31 is solidly in the Fall. Thus, sunrise should be after 6:00. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 
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::Well, here's my report on this. Using the tool at http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html , we can find the exact sunrise times for all sorts of places. I used Calais, Maine and Ludington, Michigan as my two towns, as they are at the extreme east and west of the Eastern time zone.
 
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Calais - civil twilight begins at 5:37, sunrise at 6:08<br />
 
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Ludington - civil twilight begins at 6:52, sunrise at 7:22
 
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::So, while it seems sunrise itself cannot occur before 6 (in the Eastern time zone anyway - there may be cases in others where it can) twilight can occur that early, which would result in a lighted sky, even though the sun was not yet visible. Remembering that we do not know the location of FCUSA, nor its time standard, I think it's pretty speculative to include a fact that presumes to know about such things. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 
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::: I'll grant only because of one detail: contrary to what my memory told me, you don't actually see sunrise in the 'toon, so it could be twilight. The time zone wouldn't matter; however, by picking the far east and far western points of the same time zone, you are altering the results a bit; my previous post assumed that noon = when the sun is the highest point in the sky, which is approximately true everywhere but not necessarily exact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 
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::::Well, yes, it does alter the results. Though in my view, it's the kind of alteration we refer to as "correcting". It demonstrates the range of possibilities within one time zone, and shows that saying "sunup is at 6" is fallacious. Plenty of people live in various parts of time zones, and it's not at all a stretch to imagine a location where the sun shows up prior to 6 on that morning according to their local time (which might be different than what we'd expect, given the jagged nature of time zone boundaries). Free Country USA might be such a place, if we accept this toon's account as fact. Therefore, I can't see a good argument for retaining the fact. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Binga Bingo ==
 
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''"The skull in the Spooky Woods with a rainbow afro may also be an [[Wikipedia:Adult_swim|Adult Swim]] reference to the evil clown head in the animated series, [[Wikipedia:Aqua Teen Hunger Force|Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]."''
 
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I don't consider Bingo the Robotic Floating Clown Head and the skull head in the Spooky Woods as a reference because they '''DON'T''' even look alike! The Skull has this cartoonish look on it while Bingo has this creepy malnourished-looking robot skull face that floats with the help of its... spine? Whatever, but I'm telling you all that it's not a reference at all. No, siree! --[[User:Ang the Ephemeral|Ang the Ephemeral]]
 
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Strong Bad mentions taking the Goblin's hamster ball. In an earlier Answering Machine, he is excited about the hamster cage Marzipan left on the side of the road. Would anybody consider these two events linked?
 
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== The worst fun fact I can think of ==
 
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This is the 1st odd-numbered Halloween toon since [[Homestarloween Party]] where Homestar makes an incorrect guess about Strong Bad's costume.  I apologize if this belonged on the forum. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Possible Swears Reference? ==
 
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When SB says, "This is bull-talk!" (as it was decided earlier in this talk page that it was ''talk'', and not ''tonk''), could we add this to the [[Swears]] page, as a euphemism for "bull-sh*t"? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 16:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 
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No,no,no. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 17:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Creepy Crackets ==
 
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I distinctly hear Coach Z's creepy crackets saying "cricket, cricket dadadadadada. cricket dadadadada". I guess the middle occurrence could be "crecket", but the only time he says "cracket" is when he is identifying the animal. Does anyone else hear it this way? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 
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== Hyphen'd? ==
 
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I was about to add a section for the candies on [[Minor Foods]], and I found out that the punctuation is always inconsistent. They're mentioned on [[Happy Hallow-day]], [[Subtitles:hallowday/en]], [[Hammerspace]], and [[Color flavored]]. Some pages say "orange and black flavored", while others say "orange-and-black flavored", and the subtitles even say "orange- and black-flavored". What should we do bou' dis? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:29, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 

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